Sebastian Gorka LIVE: The new Trump team appointments
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"I don't think it's in opposition at all.
I think, obviously, would I be, you know, am I championing getting rid of the filibuster now when the Senate has the trifecta?
No.
But had we had the trifecta, I would have been, because we have to show that government can deliver.
And right now, even with people going to the ballot, they are bypassing their government because they don't feel like government, whether it's at the state level or the federal level, is actually going to get them the things that they need.
That's weird.
Pramila Jayapal, Democrat from Washington.
Jeff, what is she saying there?
When they're in power, the different rules apply?
What did she just say there?
That is the most ridiculous thing.
Yeah, if we were in it would be a good idea, but since we're not, it's not a good idea.
Yeah, so the filibuster is only good if certain people are in power.
Is that what she's saying?
And they've been talking about this a lot.
They're going to do it eventually.
I think that we might as well just do it this time.
Are we going to play hardball in the next two years?
It's not about the next four years.
It's the next two years, right?
Exactly.
Most of the first year.
Because nobody wants to do anything in a re-election year.
Welcome, dear friends.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First.
Wow, wow, wow.
Are you keeping up with the developments?
Oh my gosh.
Are you bored about the news?
Wait three minutes and you won't be because there'll be another story dropping.
Something confirmed like Lee Zeldin or like Colonel Mike Waltz or other ones that haven't been confirmed like...
Christy Noem, DHS, like who else do we have that hasn't been confirmed yet?
Let me give you a word of warning before we go into the incredible, amazing news from out of Mar-a-Lago and the president's truth accounts and Twitter accounts.
Somebody called me from Mar-a-Lago and he said the following.
Nothing is official.
Nothing is official.
You hear names floating in and out of the ether, Rubio this and whatever that.
Nothing is official unless you hear from who?
Susie Wiles, the new Chief of Staff.
Howard Lutnick, who is in charge of transition.
An official press statement.
Or, President Trump!
If you don't hear it from one of those four sources, it didn't happen, and it is not news.
Okay?
You could take that to the bank.
Now, let's do the stuff that is confirmed, that has appeared on President Trump's Truth Social account.
We'll do them in order of the announcements.
So this was, earlier today, the official announcement about the man who was Eric, wasn't he in the studio for like an hour or something?
Didn't we have Congressman Waltz in studio recently?
That was two weeks ago, actually, yeah.
Funny that, how all the great MAGA people turn up on our show.
This is the statement from President Donald...
I love it that it just says President Donald Trump on his official statements.
Quote, I am honored to announce that Congressman Mike Waltz, Florida Republican, is hereby appointed to serve in my cabinet as my national security advisor.
Mike is the first Green Beret to have been elected to Congress.
That's...
That's so incredible, isn't it, that Mike's the first?
And previously served in the White House and the Pentagon.
Mike served in Army Special Forces for 27 years, where he was deployed multiple times in combat, for which he was awarded four Bronze Stars.
I feel so bad that when he was in studio, I forgot to mention that during the interview.
And when I found out four, not one, not two, not three, four Bronze Stars, that is the measure of who Mike Waltz is, Colonel Waltz is.
Including two Bronze Stars with V for Valor.
Mike retired as a full colonel and is a nationally recognized leader in national security, a best-selling author, and an expert on the threats posed by China, Russia, Iran, and global terrorism.
He serves as a senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
Mike is a distinguished graduate with honors...
From the Virginia Military Institute, he has been a strong champion of my America First foreign policy agenda and will be a tremendous champion of our pursuit of peace through strength.
At the end of the President's statement, there is a brief bio for Congressman Waltz.
Congressman Mike Waltz represents Florida's 6th Congressional District.
He is the first Green Beret to ever be elected to Congress and a former White House and Pentagon policy advisor.
We've read all this before.
He's married to Dr.
Julia Nesh-Iwat, a combat veteran who served as Homeland Security advisor to President Trump.
They live in St.
Augustine, Florida.
Okay.
Bravo, bravo, Zulu, to you, Mike Waltz.
He's in Mar-a-Lago as we speak.
And the nice thing about the National Security Advisor...
Not confirmed by Congress.
So at 12 o'clock on January the 20th, he can get to work.
Now, I know some of you are concerned about taking numbers out of Congress, given how tight the margin is.
Where are we at?
It's official now, Eric.
We have the Senate, we have the White House, we have the House.
What is the edge?
What is it, like four seats, five seats?
What is it?
We currently, with a few races, still have to be officially called.
We are at exactly 218, which is the threshold for the majority in the House.
Okay, we are at 218 with a couple more.
We have, of course, the announcement or the floating of Elise Stefanik for UN Ambassador and now Mike Waltz.
However, these two individuals come from very strong Republican districts, so it's not a concern with them.
More would be risky, especially from districts where it is not such a plus our advantage.
Okay, as we were preparing for today's show, a much shorter statement, and this is just as exciting.
and not just for America, not just for the security of our nation, but for the stability of the Middle East and for the safety of our cousins in Israel.
Again, this is on the official letterhead from President Trump.
Statement from President Donald J. Trump.
I am pleased to announce that the highly respected former governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee, has been nominated to be the United States ambassador to Israel.
Mike has been a great public servant, governor, and leader in faith for many years.
It's so nice that they added that last part, because he's not just a patriot and a decent politician, but also a faith leader.
He loves Israel and the people of Israel, and likewise, the people of Israel love him.
Mike will work tirelessly to bring about peace in the Middle East.
Wow, what a few days it's been.
Okay.
The hits will keep on coming.
Make sure that it's only the official ones that we take to the bank that have been announced by the president, by his chief of transition, by Howard Lutnick, by his chief of staff, Susie Wiles, all from an official press statement.
Those are the ones that we can take to the bank.
Other names?
They'll float around, but...
What day is it today?
Oh.
Tuesday.
Seven days.
Seven days.
Feels like a month, doesn't it?
Do you remember waking up?
Tomorrow?
Wednesday?
Do you remember waking up Tuesday?
Wednesday morning last week?
If you ever went to bed, I didn't.
It still doesn't sink in.
I catch myself several times a day just wanting to shout the words, he won.
Just screaming the words, we won.
I don't think it's sunk in quite yet, because so many people work so very, very hard.
How do we know that?
Because she lost over 10 million votes by comparison to Joe Biden.
We won the Electoral College at the popular vote, all of the battleground states.
So we don't take a rest.
We don't take a victory lap.
But we must revel in what we did thanks to the good work of all patriots who love this nation and the blessings from above.
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We're setting up right now.
Just momentarily we'll be ready.
Sorry, guys.
No worries.
Take your time.
Give me ideas for Mike.
You're talking about the...
Well, the UK leadership's treatment of Trump.
Oh, we're talking about Nigel Farage.
Our listeners don't care about that.
It's got to be something that's catching.
You've got to say something about how Happy all the people there even were the Trump one.
Oh, like the House in Belfast?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
People were shocked at how much the UK cares about politics.
Even the UK loves Trump?
Something like that?
Talk about the Labour Party who sent over all those members.
They didn't send them over.
We shut them down.
They never did.
Sorry about that.
No worries.
Two and a half minutes.
Everyone else who loves President Trump.
Hold on, what happened?
So they didn't really end up going?
No, they crapped their pants because I went all over UK News saying it was a felony.
And so they said...
Who was there originally?
Thank you, sir.
Thank you for stopping us.
What was it, New Hampshire or something, or Maine or something?
No, no, it was four battleground states, and it was the head of operations for Labor who said, we want 100 volunteers, and she posted it on LinkedIn.
Gotcha.
And then we kicked up a huge fuss, and then they said, we're not going to do that anymore.
What are you photographing, Lendram?
I dig the shirt that this gentleman has on.
Oh, Palm Beach!
Oh goodness.
Alright, so what can we come in with this phone?
You'll be here in a second.
Good, alright.
Maybe one of the Trump cuts?
Maybe 13?
Yeah, coming with 13 and I'll do PhD studies.
Yup.
And I need an image of the two women that sued Rudy.
Oh, um...
Defamation.
By the way, I sent you a tape.
Who?
Oh, okay.
Oh, here we go.
Ruby Freeman.
Wondrea Sheamus.
Okay.
Tell me if this image works, Eric.
Okay.
All right, 30 seconds.
No.
Well, this is the new one.
Oh, 20 seconds.
Save the resolutions good enough.
Yeah, it's good.
Thank you.
And one other thing I'll be doing very early in the administration is closing up the Department of Education in Washington, D.C., and sending all education and education work and needs back to the state.
We want them to run the education of our children because they'll do a much better job of it.
You can't do worse.
We spend more money per pupil by three times than any other nation.
And yet we're absolutely at the bottom.
We're one of the worst.
See, you can't do worse.
We're going to end education coming out of Washington, D.C. We're going to close it up, all those buildings all over the place, and yet people that in many cases hate our children, we're going to send it all back to the states.
Every day almost a new video dropping, not just the personnel the president has nominated, but also the things he's going to do to drain the swamp.
Get rid of the Department of Education.
And if you're not getting rid of an agency, make somebody like Lee Zeldin the director because he'll get the government monkey off your back.
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Even if it's not at a top slot working 20-hour days like the Attorney General, I want to see this man in some advisory capacity on some commission about taking down the deep state because he's been fighting them relentlessly for eight years and beyond.
He's one of the greatest patriots we have, along with President Trump.
America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani, how have you been doing on this, the seventh day after the election?
I've been doing fine.
A lot better than before, Sebastian.
I mean, it really is quite an exciting time because there's a real opportunity to, well, to restore our country.
I see it as a restoration.
Of the great republic that we've had, that was given to us by our founding fathers, and that we're supposed to make more perfect.
And we were destroying it, and now that's going to halt.
And every move that I've seen so far is a very, very strong, positive and expeditious move to making this happen.
As you say, in Trump time.
In Trump time, moving at the speed of Trump.
I've got to ask you this question.
We've got substantive stuff to talk about.
The outrageous case against you, the fake defamation case, then draining the swamp.
But it would be remiss of me if I didn't ask you, what was it like to be asked to take the podium before the president at Madison Square Garden's?
Because the audience just loves you, Mr.
Mayor.
What was that like?
Oh, in the words of my favorite baseball player and American philosopher, Yogi Berra, it was deja vu all over again.
I did it about 50 times back in 2016 when I traveled with him.
I was the person to introduce him.
And I had three different speeches.
The short one, the longer one, and the one that went on forever if he got really engaged with the people behind...
The VIPs in the back.
That's when you did the long one.
It could be a three to five minute introduction.
The usual eight minutes.
I had one that went on for 24 hours.
Did you feel the love of the recent one, Mr.
Mayor?
I did.
I did.
Of course, they're my people, too.
It was New York.
Even though New York is very left-wing, I'm kind of an exception even now.
I mean, I get a great reception in New York publicly, not by the bar associations and the lawyers and all the official left-wing clubs.
They don't give me a great reception.
They throw me out.
They don't want me.
And frankly, I never liked them very much either.
But if I walk down the street, I get a great, great reception.
Anytime I feel a little down, I would take a walk in New York and I'd get, you know, 10 people asking me to be mayor again.
So I love New York.
I just can't stand the corrupt government of New York.
It's a thoroughly corrupt, from top to bottom, government.
And that's the norm when you don't have a Republican or independent mayor.
I mean, that's historically the norm since Boss Tweet.
But if you look at the people who came to MSG, if you look at the huge crowd outside, if you look at the voting results in the Bronx and elsewhere, is it safe to say that something's happening even in New York, Mr.
Mayor?
It is.
There's no question that New York is now getting close to To what it traditionally used to be, which is, of course, always a Democrat city.
They voted against Abraham Lincoln.
But often, if not more often, a Republican state.
You know, during the Roosevelt era, Tom Dewey was the governor of New York.
And for a long time, Nelson Rockefeller.
That was 12 years of Nelson Rockefeller.
George Pataki.
We're not without We've had two Republican senators from New York.
And this is during my lifetime and political career.
We get Republican mayors rarely.
There were three of us in the last century because the city is so heavily Democratic.
But I think by the next election, we're going to be a sling state.
I foresee a real possibility of defeating Hochul.
She's underwater right now.
Her numbers probably are worse than Trump's were during the election.
I'm not sure of that, but they were close.
She's incapable of making the right decision because, number one, she's stupid and she's the product of a corrupt machine.
I mean, she's in politics to get that stadium for the Buffalo Bills and her husband is going to make millions on it.
Of course, the left wing doesn't tell that story.
She produced her own campaign contributions with charging us twice what other people paid for COVID and other things.
I mean, there's a whole history about her.
And she's been a terrible governor.
I mean, terrible.
Most people have left New York than any other state.
Do you need anything else to be a bad governor?
Having people walk out on you?
No.
So I think we're going to have a Republican governor in two years.
All right.
Well, it's up to us.
It's up to patriots like the mayor.
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The website, Ted?
What's the right website?
We still use Rudy Giuliani's yes, but just go to your X account.
Send people to X. Oh, X? Okay.
Okay, good.
All right.
Is it at the top of the X account?
Let's have a look.
Let's have a look.
Don't you want the one that Maria has?
Okay.
It's going to be a give, send, go.
Let me...
Yeah, please send it to us.
Yeah, come in with that, then I'll do my pillow.
Okay.
Give, send, go, slash, Rudy.
That's it?
Oh, nice.
Okay, give, send, go, slash, Rudy.
Nice, okay.
Alright, I'll throw that in as well.
I didn't even know it was that simple.
Okay.
What's the status of all the things they want to take from you, Mr.
Mayor?
Right now, there are basically orders, which I'm trying to appeal, to take everything from me.
I don't have a credit card I can use to judge restrained it.
I don't have a checking account that I can use.
The judge restrained that.
But they haven't taken any of your property yet.
Well, they want it.
There's an order for all of it and they want it by Friday.
And they want me to pay for delivering it.
But they've eliminated every method I could have for paying for it.
Under what justification?
And they've done a very good job of destroying my businesses.
Under what justification do they take away your checking account?
On the theory that they're entitled to it because I owe them $145 million, yet the case is on appeal.
Wow.
And not only that, it's all like Neverland because there's a tape recording that shows them doing what I said they did.
Right?
That's out there that you can look at.
The video, the video, right?
Yeah, you can see them stuffing ballots in the machine.
Right.
Well, one of them four times, four times.
Also, they have given me a tape that excludes two hours and 49 minutes of the rest of the things they did, which Rafsenberger did for them.
It's a 12-hour tape that's missing somewhere around three hours of the relevant period when they did all the things that I said they did.
But at least there's enough there to support the fact that I was telling the truth when I said that they were stuffing the ballot.
And you can appeal, of course, right?
Right.
There's also a tape showing them passing what appears to be a hard drive.
They say it's candy.
My witnesses say it's a hard drive.
I was Trump's lawyer.
I have to look at it in the light most favorable to my client.
Right.
And it sure as hell doesn't look like candy to me.
Stand by.
Stand by.
20 seconds.
And people's ballots are likely to pass around hard.
We'll be right back.
Just four miles from here, just four miles from here, we had the worst terrorist attack in the history of our country.
Thank you.
I'll never, never forget that through all the pain and misery, we came together.
Places of worship, hundreds of funerals, praying to God.
What's happened to God?
We don't pray to him anymore?
We're not allowed to?
We don't bring God back, we don't come back!
It just fills my heart with joy to see Rudy Giuliani at Madison Square Gardens telling the truth about America.
Absolutely incredible.
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Secret code G-O-R-K-A. Chris, Ray, Randy, Mike, don't go anywhere, but first we have to talk about what's happened to you.
So I prepped for the show and I looked this up and I still can't believe it.
So this judge, Judge Lewis Lyman, has awarded...
Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wondrea Shea Moss, $148 million against you for defamation.
How is this possible?
We have the recordings of what these quote-unquote election workers did.
And what are you going to do next, Mr.
Mayor?
Well, I'm appealing it.
Of course, it's a...
It's a ridiculous verdict that we occasionally get in court, and judges realize that they are ridiculous.
This judge, who has a Democrat activist background, very, very strong Democrat activist background, you should know that he set down a trial on the issues here for the time of the inauguration, so I can't go.
Just to give you an idea of...
And they're coming after your personal property, after baseball jerseys, championship rings, family heirlooms.
Have they closed down your bank account and your credit card, Mr.
Mayor?
Right now, they want me to deliver things to them.
I don't have a checking account.
I mean, I have a checking account.
It's restrained.
I don't have a credit card.
They've been restrained.
Except for whatever cash I have in the house, that's it.
That's all I can get my hands on.
Now, this is being done purely for punitive reasons.
The lawyers behind this is Hunter Biden's law partner, who also was a lawyer for the crooked company Burisma in Ukraine that paid the $8 million bribe to the Bidens and a $100 million bribe to the president of Ukraine, Poroshenko, Which Zelenskyy is coming up.
So these are very, very, and they have spent about $8 million on this case, and those two women didn't pay it.
This money is coming out of Biden-Harris PACs, the Bidens being directed by them.
There are a number of other lawyers that are being sued by groups like this.
And the judge is treating this like it's a real case.
Not only that, he's not even giving the exemptions that That homeless people get.
I want everyone who's listening right now, no matter how small it is, I want you to help Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
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Because, you know, they came after President Trump.
He has been re-elected and we need to support Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
Matt Giuliani, we've got a minute left.
We'll get you back for a longer discussion.
President Trump will be sworn in on January the 20th.
What words of wisdom would you publicly say to him right now for that first day in office behind the Resolute desk?
I don't have to.
The first day in office, you know, he's going to work 45 hours.
Yeah.
And he...
He doesn't need the pressure of, you've got to get this done quickly, because it's just internal.
But that's so good for our country, because turning around this deep state, and we could go on with the FBI, the Justice Department, the State Department, the CIA, my goodness.
It's got to be done Shock therapy all at once.
Now, I did a minor version of that.
I got rid of 8,000 New York City workers all at once.
Wow.
And I was told the city wouldn't function.
Well, it's like Elon Musk who fires, you know, 60% of the workforce at Twitter and then it works better afterwards.
You know, Mayor Giuliani, that is the best.
I have asked this question of dozens of guests.
What should President Trump do on day one?
You're the one who's given the best answer.
He doesn't need any advice.
He knows what to do.
Support this man right now.
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God bless you, sir.
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I thought he was meant to be a Nazi, so now you're just going to the gym?
At Colbert?
Nine.
At the Tom Homan has declared war on America's invaders.
Twelve.
Flashback to 2015.
Are you ready for a redo?
13.
President Trump is getting rid of the Department of Education.
Next line.
What else should he abolish?
I love this high school kid from Chicago.
45, coming up with three.
Yeah.
We're going to win so much, you may even get tired of winning.
And you'll say, please, please, it's too much winning.
We can't take it anymore.
Mr.
President, it's too much.
And I'll say, no it isn't.
We have to keep winning.
We have to win more.
We're going to win more.
I think that's my favorite thing the president's ever said.
I mean, I was there.
I put it in my book when he pulled us out of the Paris Climate Accord.
That was one of my proudest moments.
But it's everything.
It's the patriotism, the energy, the showmanship, all in one little clip.
Is that the best thing he's ever said?
Let's start with Alex.
I've got to get the team's take.
How cool is that when you're ranking clips from the president?
I love it.
You're going to get so tired of winning!
It's just too much winning!
No!
Eric, is that the number one?
It was already iconic back then, eight years ago, but it's even more iconic now than looking in hindsight because the winning hasn't even begun yet.
Guy, do you like that?
Yes, sir.
I agree with Eric and Alex and I believe this is an iconic moment people should remember.
Oh, I dread asking him.
He's gonna, like, sabotage me.
Mr.
G, is that the best thing President Trump's ever said?
No, the best thing was 45th and 47th last week.
No, but no, no, you've got it wrong.
He said 47th and 45th.
Oh, is that how he said it?
Yeah, he flipped it.
It's interesting.
See, he tries to sabotage me and I smack him down because he thinks he's so smart.
Okay, Alex, it's a video thing.
So Alex and Eric, I want that clip to be played as a liner once every day until January the 20th and maybe after.
Will you do that for me if I forget?
I can do that, yep.
Of course.
Good stuff, guys.
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Number one, Chris in New York.
Hey, Dr.
G, how you doing?
Very well.
What would you like to share?
Well, first of all, Dr.
G, I've been following you for quite a while, and you are a great American, sir, and I appreciate what you...
Have done for President Trump and his administration, his first administration.
I mean, I believe he's on his third win because I think the last election was rigged and stolen.
You know it.
You know it.
Yeah, you know it too, Dr.
G. I think I've heard you mention it.
And Brother Bannon mentions it on War Room all the time.
Steve Bannon, he said, I'm never backing away from that.
And he won't.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
We've got to get to lots of calls, and I want you to make your point.
But I just want to say, I have had hand delivered today by the man who published it.
The book from the War Room, Rebels, Rogues, and Outlaws.
It is an amazing book.
It is a coffee table book of Steve Bannon, all the warriors, RFK on down.
I'm in it as well.
Go online.
Go to whichever place you get your books from, Rebels, Rogues, and Outlaws.
Sorry, Chris, what point did you want to make briefly?
Okay, the point I just wanted to make was when President Trump said, folks, They've indicted me four times.
Democrats, be careful what you wish for.
You know what?
Like Brother Bannon says on War Room, Dr.
G, this isn't revenge.
This isn't retribution.
This is justice.
Key point, Chris.
It's not revenge.
It's not retribution.
It is justice.
It is putting the blindfold back on Lady Justice.
Amazing, amazing.
We need to hammer that.
Stay on the line, Chris.
Let's give Chris our brand new Kamala your fire t-shirt with President Trump as Uncle Sam.
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Oh, Ray in Livermore, the man who is just tearing it up on Twitter.
Hey, buddy.
Hey, I brought an hour's worth of material, but I'll stick to two subjects, Dr.
G. You opened up with the missing votes, the missing 10 million.
Let's remind everybody, Harris got out of the original race in 2020 because she couldn't attract a single vote, and we are all called racist, sexist bigots for not voting for her, even though not a single vote was cast.
And now the 15 or 10 million missing votes, those weren't missing Republican votes.
Those were missing Democrat votes.
So the racist, sexist, bigot, homophobes are on the Democrat Party side because they failed to show up for their gal.
It's so weird, isn't it, that all these black men won't vote for somebody who's allegedly black.
I'm confused, Ray.
There you go.
Item two, Dr.
G, press secretary.
Jen Horne was on for Prager this morning and they were floating choices.
I think if Carrie Lake doesn't get that win in Arizona, she should definitely be the press secretary.
She's more MAGA than half of the people we know.
I think I said that about a year ago, that if she doesn't win for governor or senator, she would make a cracking press secretary.
Could you imagine?
I mean, the way she just demolishes the fake news, it would be so much fun to watch, wouldn't it, Ray?
But...
But, but, but, before she gets at office, Dr.
G, I know you need a position where you can be close enough to whisper in the president's ear.
That's what your portfolio brings, if I'm using that word correct.
Until then, temporary press secretary, Dr.
Sebastian Gorka, first person, Abila, Jim Acosta, you're deported from my press room!
You know, I would accept that position for about a week just to toy with the press and play with them like a cat plays with a mouse.
But Carrie would be superb as well.
But Abelio, you're fired from this press briefing.
Get your sorry backside out of here.
Would be maybe the first things that come out of my mouth if I were at the podium in the press briefing room.
Thank you for your vote of confidence.
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Do you save pictures or do you delete them, Eric?
Okay.
On the computer here?
Yeah.
I generally have to cycle through them because you send me so many pictures every day, I've got to replace old ones.
Do you need pictures from recently?
Well, I just wanted to talk about Danny's book in the next hour, so...
Yeah, those are all gone.
Alright, I'll send you some.
Alright, thanks.
Hang on, let me see if I... I removed them from the session.
They should still be on the computer.
Let me see if I can just find them and...
Finding them is the most difficult part.
Let me see if I can find them and put them back in.
I think I named them all starting with his name.
FG. Well, it would have been that.
It was the day after he got out of prison, right?
Yeah.
Okay, I do have lunch.
Oh, good.
All right.
Which ones do you want to use?
I don't care.
You can cycle through them.
Okay.
Sadly, he wants me to drive them to Amazon.
Why would you want to go to Amazon?
Play cut three again.
I just love that.
Three.
So good.
We're going to win so much, you may even get tired of winning.
And you'll say, please, please, it's too much winning.
We can't take it anymore.
Mr.
President, it's too much.
And I'll say, no, it isn't.
We have to keep winning.
We have to win more.
We're going to win more.
I'm just an amateur.
The most experienced guy here in the radio is Jeff.
Jeff, is it bad if I played that every segment for the next two months?
Every segment?
Isn't it great?
Don't you love it?
It'd be easier for me, getting the clips ready every day.
See, he's always thinking about quality or himself.
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All right, let's go to Mike Williamsport, Pennsylvania.
Good afternoon, sir.
Hey, you've got to be quick because you've got like three other callers, so hit it.
Hearing lots of rumblings about people not happy with Marco Rubio getting Secretary of State and how he's a neocon and this and that and how he's a part of the Gang of Eight.
But it's actually a brilliant move by Mr.
Trump because it gets him out of the Senate, it puts another Republican senator in from Florida, and he's going to have complete control over Marco Rubio, and he's going to be forced to implement his foreign policy or he'll be out on a scan.
Fascinating.
Look, he's amazing on Israel, but the bottom line is, whoever's in that slot, and it hasn't been confirmed, but it's Rubio, they will be executing President Trump's foreign policy.
But that's actually...
What you just said there was really smart, Mike.
I love that.
You're such a sneaky thinker.
Stay on the line.
He's going to get a copy of Katie's book, The Next-Gen Marxism.
Let's go to Randy, Indianapolis.
Hello.
Yes.
Randy, you've got to be quick.
Come on, 1-2, 1-2, 1-2.
What's your point?
Nobody warned me there was going to be a gun.
Okay, sorry, sorry.
Let's go to John San Diego.
You've got to be ready, guys.
You've got to hit fast.
John.
Okay, every time Trump mentions tariffs, all these idiots who think they know something, so I'm mouthing off.
Oh, tariffs caused the Depression.
Well, no, they didn't.
And the only one they've even heard of was Smoot-Hawley.
And what they did with Smoot-Hawley was in 1933, they eliminated it so that they could use it as an excuse and a scapegoat.
Oh, we have to increase everybody's income taxes, which they did.
They more than doubled.
John, you're so right.
These people are such cretins.
They say, oh my gosh, it's bad for the economy.
We had tariffs up the yin-yang with China, with Mexico under President Trump.
John, how was the economy then?
Do you remember?
Oh, it was great.
And the thing is, the Constitution, originally, the only tax it allows for is impulse and expo, which are tariffs and excise taxes.
Bingo.
Thank you for that sense of sanity.
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We have tremendous people.
We have people that aren't working.
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But they're going to have incentive to work.
Because the greatest social program is a job.
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Thriving.
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I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created.
I tell you that.
June 16th, 2015.
After coming down those glorious escalators in that golden tower.
That was the promise he made.
That was the promise he kept.
And now he gets to do it again!
We are one week after.
An election that truly like none other in the modern time.
Why?
For one reason.
They tried to put that man in prison.
They charged him with indictments totaling more than 700 years in prison.
And the American people said, no, you're not doing that.
Not just the Electoral College!
But the popular vote as well.
How did it happen?
And what does it mean for at least the next two years?
And then the full four years of a second Trump presidency, second Trump administration.
Let's ask the author of the seminal work, The Political and Strategic History of the World, Volume 1, our fan favorite, Lord Conrad Black.
I love the phrase you used in the break before you came on that you are...
Drinking champagne from a fire hose.
I think most sane people in Western civilization should be joining us, shouldn't they?
Yeah, they should.
And I'm heartened by the number of people who are, as a matter of fact.
I was afraid there might be a bit of the shock and disbelief and conditioned, frankly, semi-brainwashed, knee-jerk reactions we had eight years ago of People clapping their hands to their foreheads all around the world saying, has America gone mad?
As far as I can see, the basis of foreign opinion in parallel to the, if I may say so, heartwarming, very gratifying and very admirable attitude of the American public that would not be put off by,
as you said in your intro, The perversion of the justice system to persecute the leader of the opposition in a manner that is not done and is absolutely not acceptable in any democracy.
And as you implied, those spurious charges against him were fast-tracked to the jury.
The jury was the country and the absolute majority of Americans have voted that he is not guilty.
And not only is he not guilty, he is fit to be raised up again for the highest office in the nation.
I think it is an immense compliment conferred on the American public, on itself, that it was not confused or befuddled or misguided by the bigotry and unprofessional,
contemptible, rabid partisanship of 95 percent of the national political media, and it was not impressed Either with the hideous deformation of the criminal justice system to intrude upon legitimate secular politics, nor by the worst and most generalized and frenzied outburst of name-calling.
In my experience of watching U.S. presidential politics since the Eisenhower era, when the former candidate and first lady Hillary Clinton led the chorus of calling The Republican nominee a Hitler.
Not enough to say a fascist, not enough even to say a Nazi.
He wasn't a run-of-the-mill Nazi.
He was Hitler.
Now, the public didn't buy it, and I say that it confirms the fact that you can trust the people, and ultimately, the people are always right.
With regards, and your latest piece in the New York Sun opens with this, that the American people have just rejected this weaponization of the judiciary.
Trump's triumph will emerge as a decisive event in Americans' political history at the New York Sun.
They've got themselves into a bit of a pickle, haven't they, Lord Black?
I'm thinking of Judge Juan Merchan, who was supposed to sentence President Trump today and then has decided for another week to think about what should happen.
They've kind of painted themselves into a corner, haven't they?
No, they did.
And I remember you and I discussing these things when these charges were first brought down.
And I said that, I mean, I'm in theory a lawyer, but in another country, and I haven't practiced for over 50 years.
Good luck to anyone who takes my legal advice, and I wouldn't give it to myself.
But it seemed to me that the dilatory procedures available to an accused person in the court of criminal procedure, in the code of criminal procedure in the United States, would be sufficient to assure that none of these cases, none of the criminal cases, got anywhere near a court for adjudication before the election.
Now, because that was a state civil case, They did manage to get it through, but it's all been evoked, is the correct legal word, to the highest jury of all, the public.
And I think Judge Merchan, he can debate with himself for a week or as long as he wants, but if he persists in trying to maintain his verdict, it will, when it is finally dealt with, it has no chance, zero.
In fact, less than zero chance of surviving an appeal to a serious court, which his was not.
He's a former taxi driver who is the exemplary type of a Democratic Party big city act promoted for good and useful behavior from being the taxi driver, which he was, nothing wrong with that, but it's not a judicial occupation, up to the bench.
And he will be a footnote I want to spend the next segment on the deeper cultural and spiritual aspects of what this double mandate means looking forward for America.
But let's look at the mechanical campaign aspects that you also cover.
They spent...
Over a billion dollars.
They gave Oprah a million for a publicity shoot.
Which was represented as an act of kindness by her.
Yeah, I know.
Is this potentially the most mismanaged campaign of the modern era?
I think there's a special category of mismanagement.
I think on that one it would be a level pegging with George McGovern.
In 1972, when it was the New York Times, even the New York Times said he is favoring peace terms in Vietnam more onerous and humiliating for the United States than North Vietnam is asking for.
But at least George McGovern ran a campaign of some integrity.
He didn't smear Nixon.
He didn't say Nixon was evil.
He offered a different perspective, which the country quite rightly rejected.
So I think this one is just as mismanaged.
But in addition, it was a nasty, malicious and dishonest campaign.
I think George McGovern ran an honest campaign championing a lot of silly ideas.
But this championed silly ideas insofar as it ever expressed its views of anything, but was an utterly incompetent campaign.
And a very dishonest campaign.
And all the finger-pointing right now, who's going to bear the brunt of it?
Because I was having dinner with a liberal who said Kamala was an amazing candidate.
She just didn't have enough time for her campaign to reach the people, Lord Black.
Well, if I were you, if this guy's a friend of yours, I'd...
Suggest a good psychiatrist for me.
I mean, she wasn't.
Look, the best you can say is she was called upon, in effect, to defend an administration whose incompetence and venality were indefensible.
And in that respect, she was lumbered with a terrible albatross from the beginning, and she put on a game show.
However, apart from the debate where she did a Competent job, but mainly because the moderators didn't pursue her on any of her evasive answers.
She never took a position.
She couldn't answer a question even from a fawning perspective.
Or just a very simple one.
I mean, twice asked, what would you do differently from the current president?
And you have no answer.
I think that's the moment it all collapsed.
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No, well, no, I'd actually...
I was going to say, her answer, did she differ with anything that the president had done?
Nothing comes to mind.
Nothing comes to mind is a perfect summary of her entire public.
When she ran for the nomination against Biden and Bernie Sanders and others, Michael Bloomberg and so on, four years ago, her answer to everything was, we must have a national conversation on that.
Well, the questioners weren't asking For a national conversation or asking for her view on this particular subject.
She couldn't do it then.
She never learned.
And I don't understand.
I don't think she is a person, as President Trump says, of low IQ. I mean, low IQ may be compared to other presidents, but she's smart enough to rehearse some answers to questions that she would know would be put to her.
But she never did answer any of them.
Neither...
Neither why didn't you do any of this in the three and a half years you've been vice president, nor what is your answer to the border?
Yeah.
Eric, will you come in with Van Jones?
Cut 14.
Cut 14.
Yep.
Two and a half minutes.
And then I'll do cigars.
And cigars.
Okay.
So, let's head off for the monologue and for Waleed.
Oh, for Waleed, um...
How President Trump brings peace back to the Middle East.
And then the monologue was about what?
Huckabee and Waltz.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And don't believe the leaks.
Mm-hmm.
The latest superb choices from President Trump.
Mm-hmm.
90 seconds.
Mm-hmm.
Malcolm Muggeridge was a convert, wasn't he, Conrad?
He was.
Late in life.
Yeah.
As his friends said, many of them, after he could no longer be the rake that he had been for 40 or 50 years...
He became very self-righteous.
Now, he was a delightful man, though, and a brilliant commentator.
Oh, absolutely.
One of the best.
And, of course, that's a high tradition in Britain, these eminent literary figures who become Roman Catholics, like Evelyn Waugh and G.K. Chesterton.
It's a very distinguished group.
But that breed has gone of the public intellectual who is good on their feet and good in front of a camera.
That's few and far between today.
Yeah, this is true.
And they're much missed in England.
I mean, apart from Douglas Murray, who's half American now, there are very few of them in England, which whatever else was the case was a country that a lot of people had spoke Very articulate.
In my opinion, that's declined.
Douglas is one of the best.
Very good.
If you're the Democrats, what are you going to do for the next two years? what are you going to do for the next two
If you're the Democrats, what are you going to do for the next two years?
Therapy?
Therapy.
We're all going to therapy.
Why are we here?
If you're a Democrat, all we can say is we hope that Susie decides that she's going to take a long vacation, that they hire some terrible people and make some mistakes to give us a chance.
Right now, they have everything.
They've got the Supreme Court.
They got the Electoral College.
They got the House.
Probably they got the Senate.
They got the popular vote.
And we're just sitting here with the dunce cap on.
This time last week, we thought we were the smartest people in the world.
We thought Donald Trump was an idiot.
We thought his campaign made no sense.
And it turned out they were smarter than us.
And we don't have anything to say.
You know, I can sit here and pretend I know something.
Here's what I know.
Everybody I know is miserable.
Everybody's on these Zoom calls.
Nobody's got any good ideas.
And it's going to take us a while to figure this out.
I'm not good at coming here and faking and pretending.
No, we got whooped.
Go to the spa.
You need a massage and a cucumber water, buddy.
I agree.
And a cookie.
That's right.
All right.
All right.
Paul Van Jones, the self-professed communist.
He says he wants a cookie and he needs a trip to the spa.
Jeff, what do you think?
I've got an idea for Van Jones.
Do you think we should send him a box of our Dr.
G Teddy Roosevelt cigars?
What do you think?
I'm trying to think, though.
You don't want to waste them, do you?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, yeah.
How about one?
How about I buy you a box, you get the box and we send Van Jones one?
That'll work.
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Lord...
Hello, Black.
You speak, you quote the great Malcolm Muggeridge in your latest piece at the New York Sun, and you talk about the great liberal death wish, that they kind of wandered into this political suicide so embodied in the results of last week's election.
It seems to me that they have failed.
I mean...
Van Jones can say we were idiots, but they failed to diagnose what they did wrong.
When you have commentators on CNN saying the misogyny of black men voting for President Trump is why Kamala lost, it seems as if none of them have any sense of what truly happened.
Well, in fairness, I thought Van Jones' comments were very admirable.
They were not only amusing, They were candid, and they were accurate.
I'm very pleased and slightly surprised to see there's a prominent Democrat who has a sense of humor, recognizes his own limitations, and can call it straight.
I mean, basically, he said, as I hear it, I mean, we just, we hadn't a clue what was going to happen.
Right, but he's saying we got it wrong, but we're not seeing any analysis in terms of why they got it wrong, why parading yourself around with billionaires was meant to appeal to the working class.
Franklin D. Roosevelt went out on the Norma Hall with Vincent Hester.
It's just, you've got to do more than hobnob with the rich people.
Right.
But the...
Look, I think, to go to your actual question, there are a lot of intelligent people who tend to vote Democrat, and there are no doubt a good many intelligent people fairly high up in that party.
And I think what they're going to conclude is, first of all, you've got to run a competent administration, which Biden and Harris did not.
Secondly, it's got to be honest, and there were all these problems with the Biden family.
Third, you've got to stay away from outrageous things like using the Justice Department to persecute your enemies and calling the Republican candidates fascists and Nazis.
And fourth, we've got to recognize that we've got too far left.
We let the squad and the whole woke group and the people who wanted to govern the whole country for these sex change people, a fraction of 1% who do that, We got it all wrong.
We've got to return to the center.
The thing to do is look at Bill Clinton's playbook, The New Democrats.
It was a fraud.
They weren't new, but they were sensible and they were centrist.
Now, I'm not the absolute greatest Clinton fan in the world, but it wasn't a bad administration, apart from the housing bubble that he created, although it only blew up under George W. Bush at the end of his time.
He was a reasonably sensible president, and in any case, not an extremist.
So they've got to pull back from the extreme, stop letting the tail wag the dog, and this extreme far-out, Israel-hating, woke, anti-white privilege, anti-American group of loonies.
They can go to the back of the bus and not be catered to and deferred to all the time, as they have been in the Biden years.
And reconstruct a party aiming to capture the center.
But isn't there a deeper challenge for them that it's not just about recapturing the center, Lord Blank, but it looks like the Republicans, at least under President Trump, they're more of the party of the working class than the Democrats are.
Isn't that tectonic?
That is absolutely true.
I mean, the fact is, those who supported the Democrats in this election Are extremely vulnerable to being attracted by the Republican administration, because Trump is going to deliver.
He's going to do what he said.
You're going to get full employment.
You're going to get a radically different socioeconomic status for these low-income districts, minority and white, irrespective of color, but a rising tide for all of them.
And that is going to— Assault the traditional base of the Democratic Party even more comprehensively than was demonstrated by the election last week.
So at that point, the Roosevelt coalition has been taken away from it.
It's not theirs anymore.
And so they're going to have to fight it out.
And there is no doubt that the Democratic pros will realize whether we like it or not.
Regardless of what we've been saying for the last eight years or longer, if we ever want to be back in office again, which is what we're here for, to win office, we're going to have to take the center.
In order to do that, we'll have to go where the center is and stop sitting on the sidelines, squandering their credibility and inflicting bad government on the country with all this woke bunk and this sort of self-hating, it's all America's fault, all white America's fault, everything is.
That attitude.
They've got to jettison all of it, bury it, shower it in garlic and crucifixes and drive a silver stake through the heart of it.
I somehow think that will not happen.
We've got literally 30 seconds left.
The future for Biden and Harris, will they disappear into irrelevance, Lord Black?
Biden did serve as president.
He served a full term as president, along with, I think he'd be about equal.
I think there were 12 others who served exactly one term, and I don't know, eight or more who served less than one term.
So he's there.
He's in history, but not as a distinguished president.
He's like a Franklin Pierce or something.
Kamala Harris, I think, could come back in California as a senator or governor or something.
I don't think she'll be A factor in national politics again.
Yeah, I hope that is the case.
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And look, I mean, I don't think she'd be worse than Newsom.
I don't think she'd be worse than Newsom.
That's the bar, right, right.
It's a subterranean bar, but there it is.
How's the mood in Canada?
Well, there's a debate going on, and I'm sort of leading the pro-Trumpers here in the public exchange.
And, you know, there are alarmists who say ludicrous things, but in general, the You know, as far as you can tell from the public, their attitude is...
You know, I mean, Canada feels that we're great professional America watchers, and anyone my age or middle-age has seen a lot of presidents come and go, and they think, you know, this is a very interesting development.
How bad is the public media there?
It's pretty bad.
It's pretty bad.
But it's not venomous.
It's not that...
You know, you don't have people like The View or anything like that saying these awful things about him every day.
But you've got a sort of skeptical and slightly snobbish attitude in the news media, but not sort of satire or terrible things like you've got in your own media.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, we did it.
We did it.
Everyone in the country hopes that whoever the president of the U.S. is does well for America and for all of us.
So, you know, he's got some goodwill here.
Yeah.
By the way, I was just talking earlier to the leader of the opposition who will win the election here next year.
He's very pro-Trump.
Oh, he's very impressive.
So he will win?
Yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Will he have a mandate or will it be a coalition?
What do you think?
No, no, no.
He'll have a clear majority on an explicit platform.
A small C, intelligent, conservative platform.
Well, look forward to seeing him at the White House.
was made it clear We will prioritize public safety threats and national security threats first.
And that's where the focus is being.
There's over 1.5 convicted criminal aliens in this country with final orders removal that we're going to be looking for.
There's thousands of gang members, illegal alien gang members we're going to be looking for.
Now, I'm going to say, if you're in the country illegally, You shouldn't feel comfortable.
Absolutely not.
I won't feel comfortable if I'm in a country illegally.
If I'm in some other country illegally, I'm not going to be comfortable.
You shouldn't be comfortable either, because when you enter this country illegally, you have committed a crime.
You are a criminal, and you're not off the table.
Really no better choice.
Is there really a better choice?
And I'm so glad, because I've been talking to that man, and he said, no.
That's Tom Homan, of course.
I don't want a cabinet position.
I don't want to be Secretary of Homeland Security.
I want to do one thing and one thing alone.
I want to deport every illegal that Biden and Harris let into this country.
Because he knows how to do it.
That man has served six presidents.
As the director of ICE during the Trump administration, he secured our border.
There is no one, I repeat, no one, better suited, more experienced than Tom Homan.
And he looked a little tired there.
That was last night on Fox, and I'm not surprised.
It looks like he was coming from the studios in West Palm Beach.
There's nobody better.
And just stop for a second to think about the message.
President Trump has done all kinds of things in the last seven days.
He said we're getting rid of the Department of Education.
He said we're going to put Lee Zeldin in at EPA to get the government monkey off your back.
He said what?
We're coming after you, the accreditation agencies of America, who are accrediting universities that are garbage, That aren't providing the skills that we need and are teaching anti-American indoctrination.
These are all amazing things.
And that's the full-court press of the transition.
I can't believe it's the first seven days.
It's incredible.
But think about the key appointments.
Not the ones that are still rumored, Rubio and others.
Think about this.
He's put the emphasis on what mission and on who.
Think about the first one.
Susie Wiles, got it.
Winning campaign.
Chief of Staff.
Slot that in.
Got it.
In the White House.
When it comes to messaging to Americans, to the left, to our enemies, to the cartels, to the human smugglers, to the fentanyl industrial enterprise...
What did he say?
I'm going to pick the toughest guy out there, Tom Homan, and I'm going to make him the border czar, an actual border czar, not like Kamala who opened the gates, the floodgates for an invasion, a literal invasion, at least 20 million.
I'm going to put the man in there who will track you.
You're a sanctuary city.
What did he say last night?
He said, you're a sanctuary city.
I don't care.
I'm going to double the manpower.
I'm going to send HSI, Homeland Security Investigations.
I'm going to send CBP, Customs and Border Protection.
I'm going to send our guys in there, who, by the way, this is a lovely little delicious thing, 53% of CBP officers are Hispanic.
Hmm, is that interesting, right?
The majority of Customs Patrol, Customs and Border Protection, are actually Latino, Hispanic, and they're going to clean the scum, the criminals, the rapists, the drug smugglers out of America.
Message number one.
Message number two, what else?
The man who was the architect of the original immigration policy, the travel moratorium, the building the wall, Who's he?
Where's he now?
You should listen to his interview.
Hey, Jeff, let's push that hour long we had with Stephen Miller.
Let's get John to repost that because everybody needs to know who Stephen Miller is.
We had the brains behind the first Trump administration's immigration policy, building the wall, the stain, Mexico.
All of it!
Stephen Miller.
Is back in the White House as what?
Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy.
Which means you sent a message.
The border, immigration, the invasion, national security, number one priority.
Then we have what?
Today's news.
The first ever Green Beret to serve in Congress.
A guy with four bronze stars, two for valor, is the National Security Advisor, Colonel, Congressman Mike Waltz.
That's a message.
That's a guy who's killed jihadis.
For real.
That's a man who understands the corruption of the deep state.
And then the piece de resistance.
We have that message.
Epitome of the happy warrior.
We have the former governor of Arkansas.
We have Mike Huckabee as the president's man in Israel.
Every ambassador is literally the president's official representative in that capital.
Wow!
Amazing for America.
Amazing for the Middle East.
Amazing for Israel.
Amazing for all those who love Judeo-Christian civilization.
Alright, I didn't mean to do a monologue there, but I did.
We'll get to your calls momentarily.
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Something about, like, the Democrats destroying themselves?
Because he talked about that a bit.
Did he?
Yeah, he talked about the, um, the...
What was it he called?
Like, they wander into self-harm or something like that?
Oh, I didn't hear that.
Um...
I think you said that on the air.
One Democrat understands why Trump won.
Mm-hmm.
Alright, two minutes.
Teamsters president back on Fox.
I know, in a t-shirt.
You know, really what they need to do with this immigration is defund all the money they've been spending on it.
Yeah.
Because that all comes from the federal government.
And to all the NGOs.
Yeah, it all comes from the federal government.
Right.
Gotta get the wall back up and running, too, like, immediately day one.
Yep.
Construction, because...
Obviously, as it goes, you plug the leak before you start bailing out the water.
What's your take on Andrew Bailey, Jeff?
That's his name.
I don't know.
Could be good.
Yeah, he just, I don't know, he came out of nowhere with all the stuff so fast.
Well, he had a primary challenge, I remember.
Yeah.
That's right, that's right, that's right.
And he won.
But before that, he was like military, right?
He wasn't really...
He was?
I think so.
I know he was military.
Was he a Jag?
Let me check.
Andrew Bailey.
He wasn't like a lifelong, I don't think, politician, which I like.
He was with the army in Iraq.
The one thing of it is he's a good communicator for an AG, though.
You know what I mean?
Which is good.
He is.
He is.
That's true.
I just want it to be Ken Paxton.
That's what I want.
Ken Paxton and then John Victoria as advisors.
I was gonna say.
If you can get impeached by Texas, that means you're hardcore.
And win.
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Thank you.
Which podcast are you listening to?
Which accounts are you subscribing to?
I'm interested.
Like, genuinely.
Let me know which ones specifically.
Which accounts?
Which podcasts?
Etc.
Why is she wearing those lesbian glasses, Jeff?
That's like the Barry Weiss glasses.
What happened to AOC? I don't know.
Those are literally Barry Weiss's 1970s lesbian glasses.
What is that?
I don't know.
Maybe it's just to look like you're in mourning and everything.
Why are you laughing, Eric?
Alex, why are you laughing?
Those are the 1980s, I'm a woman who wears comfortable shoes glasses.
Why are you laughing?
I don't want to pick a fight with the free press.
Oh, come on!
Don't whip out on me!
Barry Weiss, she's not one of us.
She's just faking it.
Jeff, why does AOC, in her new glasses, why does she...
Could she imagine if she announces...
That's the only way she's going to say stay relevant.
She's going to say, I've transitioned, or I'm...
What do you think, Jeff?
I predict now, to stay relevant, she's going to say her pronouns are whatever, rhinoceros or something.
No, I don't think she'll do that.
I don't think so.
But she's irrelevant.
No, she still thinks she's relevant.
She thinks she's...
Okay, so explain to me why she's asking...
Everybody, what podcasts they listen to, what shows they watch.
Isn't that like a little bit communistic?
I know exactly why I should ask you.
But first of all, it's not that hard to tell.
It's like the 30 podcasts that Trump and Vance did the last month, you idiot.
That's the ones.
Because she wants to know who to crack down on.
That's why.
Bingo!
Such a little bloody commie.
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Let's go to Rita in Omaha.
We don't get a lot of calls from Omaha.
Hey, Rita.
Mr.
G., with the two assassination attempts on Mr.
Trump and the fact that one-third of Democrats wish that...
You know, he had been killed.
I don't understand with the safety of Mar-a-Lago and all that I'm reading about, you know, they have that mechanical dog.
You know, they seem to be protecting him really well there.
I don't understand why he has to travel to the White House.
I'm really worried about it.
Because that's tradition.
When you win the election, the incumbent president receives the winner in the Oval Office.
That's what we do.
Well, what are you afraid of?
I mean, he's traveled the country.
He's done like 280 rallies in the last year.
You think that they're going to try and do something to him inside the White House compound?
No, I was thinking maybe on the way, you know, like, you know, because the Secret Service failed like twice.
Well, on multiple occasions, yes.
But why do you think tomorrow in the most high visibility, the president, the trip he's ever taken since he left the White House?
I'm curious, why tomorrow you're worried?
I don't know.
I guess when I read that he was in Mar-a-Lago and they were taking all these safety precautions...
Yeah, but he's going to have to work in the White House.
You know that.
He's the president on January the 20th.
Yeah, I know.
He can't stay in Mar-a-Lago.
Yeah, because I heard someone on TV, I forget who it was, say that from now until January 20th, that's going to be the most dangerous time.
Well, theoretically, theoretically, because once he's actually the president, there are certain things they do for his security that they won't be able to do in the next two months.
But, Rita, just keep him in your prayers.
He will be meeting Joe Biden in the Oval Office tomorrow, and we will be covering it live here on America First.
But keep him and his family in your prayers.
The people who are worried the most are the deep state people.
The people we must excise from the body politic, from the bureaucracy.
And Mark Zaid, that lunatic who has been helping the seditionists like Vindman, he's actually got a plan for them.
Cut five.
Now, I've represented a lot of clients who have been specific targets.
of President Trump and those around him.
We're not just talking about my federal employee workers in different agencies who are uncomfortable like you've just heard in this last segment.
We're talking about people who have been specifically called out by the former president of the United States.
And we're not rushing to it.
I'm not saying sell your home, move overseas, never come back, become an expat.
I'm telling certain clients, a small number, that you know what?
Take a vacation.
for inauguration and let's see what happens in the days or week or two afterwards.
Jeff, who's he talking?
Who are the people that President Trump has targeted?
Who's that?
Is it like Peter Navarro, Steve Bannon, 73-year-old grandmaster?
Who is it?
And you can tell it's all theater because he's, oh, take a vacation.
He's going to be in office for four years.
So if he really wants to go after these people just because they're gone the first week, he's not going to go after them.
This is all theater, the whole thing that he's targeting people.
Why have they changed their language?
Why is he no longer Hitler?
I'm a bit confused.
I thought he was Hitler.
Because that's because of the election.
That's why.
Why are the lawsuits dropped?
So what do you think Juan Merchan is going to do next week?
Because a one-week delay is like, okay, you're still going to have to decide next week.
It was kind of weird.
Some were saying that it was not really a week, that it was just kind of...
He's pushing it off, too.
I don't think he's going to do anything.
I think he's going to push off the sentencing.
How do you put him in jail now?
Seriously.
Could you imagine?
I'm not going to tempt fate, but I think he folds.
Eric, what do you think?
Does Juan Marchand fold?
A thousand percent.
He's just kicking the can down the road at this point.
So what happens next week?
He's going to announce just a total slap, like a fine or something, a total slap on the wrist charge.
Interesting, interesting.
Oh my gosh, the calls are flooding in and we have to go to our third hour guest.
How is the world reacting?
What is happening here in America?
Let's take a deep breath and remind ourselves.
I wanted to do this at the top of the show two hours ago and I forgot.
Ladies and gentlemen, fellow Americans, patriots, We won.
Just a week ago, just a week ago, we were going to the polls.
We didn't know.
We felt good.
We didn't want to tempt fate.
But we pulled out a victory for the ages.
It's really important that, yes, they are evil.
Yes, they will try everything.
But the fact that you gave him, even if you're stuck in, you know, California, Massachusetts, the fact that you all voted for him, giving him the popular mandate, as well as the Electoral College, that's really taken the wind out of their sails.
Thank you.
Thank you to every single one of you who called in, who took my chastisement seriously, who volunteered, became election workers, volunteers, knocking on doors.
This is your victory as well.
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Let's squeeze in a couple of calls at the end of the hour.
Let's go to line one, Pete Memphis.
Hey, I'm on?
Yes, you are.
You've got to be quick, Pete.
You are on.
That's why I say, hey, go ahead.
Tell Donald Trump, day one, to pull back all our military out of Germany.
He went to do it.
They lied to him, the generals and everybody, and they didn't do it.
Pull them back and put them on our border over here.
Thank you kindly, Pete.
Let's go to Daniel, Ohio.
Daniel, you're up!
Yeah, I want to know what the name of the music is that they play during the commercials on your channel.
Which channel?
On the TV or where?
Yeah, on TV. No idea.
Are you watching on the app or on Roku?
Where are you watching it?
I'm watching it on the Samsung One Connect box.
All right.
Jeff, we've got a mission.
We've got to answer this question for Daniel.
The Roku music that is played in the breaks.
Can we find out what that is?
I think we had that question once before.
What do you think?
Can we track it down?
Sure.
Don't sound so excited.
Calm down, Jeff.
We will find out for you, Daniel.
Stay on the line.
Mr.
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Give us your email address or your phone number and we will track it down.
I think we've had that.
Somebody asked that question like...
A year ago or something.
And it was good music.
I just can't remember because we do a lot of stuff here and all the music is good.
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And the meltdown continues.
I played this on Friday because it's one of my favorites, along with Jake Tapper going, what do you mean?
She didn't get any counties?
No counties?
Kamala didn't get any counties that Biden got?
How's that possible?
Yeah, that's hilarious, but so is this.
It's even more delicious, because these are people who pretended to be MAGA, lasted nine days in the White House, and then have been trashing my former boss for the last seven years.
They're clowns, and this, I don't know who did this, but this was the takedown of the ages.
Scaramucci the Mooch!
The rhetoric got heated everywhere.
You got pretty heated, Anthony, at that time.
Joe, how did I get heated?
What did I say, Joe?
About Trump?
What did I say?
I repeated what he was saying.
I said, this is wrong.
Come on, Joe.
I've had an utter disdain for Trump.
You'll always be welcome at the table of legacy media and have people nodding as you trash Trump.
That's always going to happen.
But aren't you the slightest bit embarrassed or at least humbled about how wrong you were about the feeling of most Americans?
Let me finish.
And for enthusiastically supporting a candidate who a majority of people thought had no business being anywhere near the Oval Office, and you're a Republican, and you saw that all the different policies that she was talking about are anathema to what you thought your whole life, and yet you went along with it.
Do you ever eat any crow, or not even a little crow, like a little cape on?
I mean, Michael Avenatti could still be on TV, trashing Trump.
You'll always find a place on TV. If he wasn't in prison, he'd still be on CNN, running for president with Brian Stelter.
Just give me a little bit, a little bit, Anthony, about how wrong you were.
Just, you don't have to eat a whole crow, maybe just a cape on.
I mean, you've been...
Trounced everything you said you supported, Mooch.
Will you ever recover?
I doubt it.
Because Trump derangement syndrome is an international phenomenon.
It used to be a joke.
It is now an actual psychosis.
It's everywhere, including in the land of my birth.
Let's get an update from one of the champions of common sense on the other side of the pond.
I wish I had thought of this.
His new show is called Morning Glory.
And it is a glorious show.
Our buddy, the one and only Mike Graham of Talk TV. Mike, welcome back.
How are things on the other side of the pond in Blighty?
Sebastian, I haven't stopped laughing, literally, for days, because it's been delicious.
Not only have we been watching the lefty meltdown in the United States of America, highlighted, I think, my favourite clip I think I would nominate is Jimmy Kimmel.
Practically in tears as he went through all of the things that were terrible about this, including how the election of Donald Trump, by a massive majority of people who actually voted for him, is somehow against the idea of democracy.
I mean, this guy is a clown, isn't he?
I mean, he shouldn't even be on television anymore.
He's just been a circus.
But the mood here has been brilliant.
I haven't seen so much happiness.
People have actually been calling my show every single day since Donald Trump got elected, saying, I haven't felt this good since we won the Brexit referendum.
Suddenly the clouds have lifted, even though we've got a terrible Labour government in charge with Sir Keir Starmer, or as we call him on Morning Glory, Sir Keir Starlin.
We haven't had such a great uplift and feel-good factor.
Since 2019, when Boris Johnson got in to hopefully fix Brexit.
I mean, it's been incredible.
But we've also had our own version of the lefty meltdown, which I'll tell you about in due course.
But we are absolutely having a ball watching Donald Trump eviscerate the lefties.
So we actually have that cut.
We played it last week for those of you who missed it.
This is a man who used to make his money from playing videos of large, well-endowed women jumping on trampolines.
It was actually his job, the man show.
And now that great respecter of women is crying!
Jimmy Kimmel.
Let's be honest, it was a terrible night last night.
It was a terrible night for women, for children, for the hundreds of thousands of hard-working immigrants who make this country go, for healthcare, for our climate, for science.
For journalism, for justice, for free speech.
It was a terrible night for poor people, for the middle class, for seniors who rely on Social Security, for our allies in Ukraine, for NATO, for the truth.
Yeah, I'm so worried about the poor people because I'm one of them.
I only have three limos.
I could have four and the children.
This is a guy, I mean, if you don't believe me, you've got to watch the videos of him standing on street corners with a banana between his legs asking women to fellate the banana.
This is the champion of women, Mike Graham.
You've lived in America.
You've been a journalist for several millennia.
Can you tell us what has happened to these people?
We used to say TDS is a joke, but the Trump derangement syndrome, it's a real medical condition, isn't it, Mike?
It is.
And did you notice that, you know, the catch in his throat comes twice in that little speech, right?
First, when he says the word immigrants, as if for some reason that is somehow upsetting him, you know, that it's bad news for immigrants.
You know, well, I've got some news for you, Jimmy.
Most of the people who voted for Donald Trump are probably immigrants and have come to this country in one way, shape or form, but probably legally.
Worked their butts off and made a decent living and created a life for themselves.
And they don't want illegals coming in to take it all away from them and to have it given to them for free.
And then the next time his voice catches, it's when he mentions the word, terribly emotive word, Ukraine!
Ukraine!
You know, has he ever been to Ukraine?
Does he know how corrupt Ukraine is?
A nation which would not have been invaded if there hadn't been a theft of the election in 2020, Mike.
Right.
Exactly right.
And also, who would never have been invaded had Angela Merkel, the world's worst politician, who used to be Chancellor of Germany, decided to ask them if they'd like to join the European Union.
You know, don't make any mistake.
I'm not any kind of apologist for Vladimir Putin.
But even Vladimir Putin was going, hang on a minute, I don't mind giving independence to these countries around Russia.
I don't mind giving independence to them as long as they want to be independent.
But if they're going to go and join the European Union, I think I'm going to have to put my hand up and go, you know, sorry, not on my watch.
I'm going to play a video in the next segment, maybe, unless it's ready now.
You talked about the mood on the other side of the Atlantic, and I remember the parties after Brexit, the biggest vote in British history to get rid of that socialist fiefdom that was controlling your sovereignty.
Do we have that video, Eric?
Yes.
Yeah, so I found this.
Actually, a follower of mine from the UK sent me this.
This is a house in Belfast in Northern Ireland that has a massive jumbotron screen saying Trump, Trump, MAGA and is festooned with red, white and blue.
I didn't want to believe this, but this is real.
Why are people in Belfast celebrating the American election, Mike?
Well, because they see Donald Trump as the leader of the free world, not only the free world politically, but the free world in terms of what we've lost over the last four years.
Because, you know, we were all sitting here thinking to myself, you know, if there's any chance that Kamala Harris gets in, What that does is it gives more kind of absolute authority to the woke.
You know, the people who have ruined Britain, have ruined America, are in the process of ruining the rest of the world as well.
You know, the people who care more about whether men can enter women's changing rooms and whether men can go around punching women in a boxing ring because they pretend that they're women.
The people that think that's important.
The people that have said that we must take down We're good to go.
We've seen a guy, we've seen Donald Trump, a straight-speaking man, a man who loves his country, a patriot, and he will now shine a light on all of those absolute idiots in academia, in the media, and in government, who would like to change the way that Britain is looked upon.
And so we feel that Donald Trump, actually, by winning his election, is going to have such a fantastically positive influence on the rest of the world that we can get Britain back.
Well, it is music to my ears because I don't go back regularly to the land of my birth, but when I have gone back, I found the country unrecognizable from the one I grew up in, where people of every hue, every ethnic background, every socioeconomic strata, they all considered themselves British and they were proud to be British.
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All right, so you are perfectly positioned, my dear friend, Mike Graham, because how many years did you work as a journalist in America?
About 10.
1983, when Reagan was president, all the way up to 92, when Bill Clinton got in.
So the halcyon days, he was a reporter here, and now he has one of the best shows, if not the best show, on politics, on culture, with the plank of the week awards, with just ripping the common sense band-aid off the faces of the lying mainstream media.
I've got to play this clip for you, because this is real life, Mike.
So I've had this hat, MAGA hat, Plastered to my head for the last few weeks, even though I never wear ball caps and I'm usually in a suit.
And on Friday morning on the way to the studio, I stopped at my favorite Christian Lebanese cafe near where I live.
A beautiful day.
And there were people sitting outside drinking their coffees.
And this middle-aged white crone looks at me And Fs and blinds and says, when was America in need of being great again?
And I took a lesson from Andrew Breitbart, so I switched on my phone and I filmed her.
Hit it.
Shout to me.
What do you shout to me in public?
What language would you use?
I use the English language.
No, what, what?
Insult.
What swear word did you use?
I asked you, why did America have to be great again?
And I explained the last four years.
I talked about 12-year-old girls being raped, and you laughed like a hyena, and then you used the F word.
Yeah.
Yeah, because you're what?
You're tolerant?
Yeah, I am.
Or because you think 12-year-olds getting raped is funny?
You do.
Are you recording?
I am, because I'm going to use this on my show tonight.
Oh, good.
in front of three and a half million viewers.
Be there.
Because you are the reason we won.
Right?
Your DEI hire was trounced.
The popular vote.
They rejected you and your hateful cult.
And you used the F-word in front of me in public.
You are the reason Donald Trump is president.
Thank you.
You're very welcome.
Thank you.
And you have a good show this evening.
You did it for us.
You did it for us.
I'm a man of faith.
I'm not a good Christian because we're all fallen.
But there's nothing I can do, Mike, to get into the heads of these people.
So I don't know that woman.
I walk past her.
Walk past her.
And she sees a hat with a phrase that no American citizen should be able to disagree with.
Make America great again.
Nobody should be able to disagree with that.
And then she uses the F word to a stranger.
And then she asks me, what was so wrong?
Why do you have to make it great again?
And I go through a litany of the economy, 20 million illegals, 12-year-old girls being raped and murdered by Venezuelan illegals that into the country.
And when I made that last point, Mike, she laughed like a cackling hyena.
I don't know if you see this in the UK with the Ramonas, the anti-Brexiters, but you're a journalist.
I see the work of the devil.
What is this, Mike?
Yeah.
I find it extraordinary.
Like you, we have those exact same people in the UK. We have people in the UK who think it's wrong to protect our borders, who think that people like me, who spend every single day of my life talking on my show about how we need to stop the people coming here from sub-Saharan Africa.
We need to stop the people coming here from Afghanistan.
We need to stop the people coming here who think that they can just walk off a boat in Dover and come and live in Britain.
Because there are people who say to me, Well, you're obviously some kind of racist.
You're some kind of bigot.
You know, these people are running from terrible things.
Yeah, they're running from France.
And I mean, we don't like France very much, but it's not, you know, it's not completely and utterly, you know, beyond repair.
The wine or the cheese is okay, Mike.
The wine or the cheese is okay.
The French, you know, not so much.
But the point is, is that, you know, we have the same crones that walk the earth.
They see somebody like yourself as the enemy.
You know, they don't see the enemy for what it is, which is the foreigners who are coming in, breaking into the country and committing crimes without a care in the world because they know they can never be deported.
And so this derangement syndrome is not just about Donald Trump.
It's about anything to do with right-wing politics.
We saw it with Brexit.
We saw it with the voting in of Boris Johnson.
Keir Starmer, who is now our Prime Minister, right, Labour Prime Minister, completely useless, has had the worst 100 days, first 100 days of any Prime Minister of all time.
His approval rating started off at plus 19.
It's now minus 38.
And he's only been in for four months, right?
Here's what he said about Donald Trump back in 2019 when Boris Johnson got in.
He said, an endorsement from Donald Trump tells you everything you need to know about what is wrong with Boris Johnson.
And why?
He isn't fit to be Prime Minister.
Okay, so hang on.
Let me just translate these for those who don't follow British politics.
The new left-wing Prime Minister, the head of government...
When the former conservative prime minister receives an endorsement from my former boss, the former president, the president-elect, he says, that's everything you need to know about the conservative prime minister.
So he's lambasting the man who's just been elected president.
And then he's now in government in 10 Downing Street.
I'm curious, has...
Has Starmer apologized since he became Prime Minister for those comments or since my former boss was re-elected on Tuesday night?
He hasn't.
But you know what's interesting is that he's now backpedaling at 100 miles an hour because he came over to see Joe Biden.
Coincidentally, Keir Starmer's judgment is so bad that he came over to see Joe Biden...
And on his return, he was asked, what did you think of his health?
And he said, he's absolutely fine.
Completely cognizant.
Three days later, Joe Biden pulled out of the race.
Hang on, that's too delicious.
Is that correct?
Three days?
Three days beforehand, Keir Starmer says Biden is mentally copacetic?
Yeah, absolutely.
And he was very, very sure that he was going to run for president.
He was also very sure that he was going to win.
You know, so he made complete blunder there.
But as a result of that trip, he also saw your boss, the former boss, Donald Trump.
And I've been saying this all week that, you know, there's another guy called David Lammy, who Oh, hang on, hang on.
We're going to save David Lammy because I want to quote what he said about President Trump.
I do believe he's the current foreign secretary.
So in the meantime, it's going to be...
We'll come back to that.
We'll get to that in a second.
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So, look, this is special to me, of course, as you can tell by my deep Alabamian accent.
I was not born in the U.S. I grew up, was born and grew up in West London.
And for me, you know, the special relationship between the U.K. and America is close to my heart, as it is to President Trump with his roots in the British Isles.
So let me ask you, Mike Graham, you've got this new left-wing government.
And I think, correct me if any of these details are wrong, you have a secretary of state, what we call the, you know, the foreign secretary in the UK. You've got a foreign secretary called David Lammy, who has called the former president, now the president-elect President Trump, a neo-Nazi sympathizer and a sociopath.
I don't think he's apologized.
How could this affect the relations between our two great nations after 12 o'clock on January the 20th when President Trump will raise his hand for a second time with his other hand on the Bible and be sworn in as the head of our nation?
Well, I think David Lammy, at that point, if he hasn't lost it already, will be out of a job.
Because at the end of the day, You can't go around talking about people in the way that he does.
But of course, the lefties think that this is completely and utterly acceptable because they think they're in the right.
They know that what they're doing is absolutely for the common good, even though, of course, everybody knows that it's not.
And because they're trying to play to their own base, He said all sorts of things.
He actually went out, believe it or not, when Donald Trump was president and he came to this country on a state visit where he met the Queen, was entertained in Buckingham Palace, went to a state dinner in Windsor, I believe it was, met every single top politician in the land.
That footage of him with the Queen on that gorgeous sunny day was amazing.
Yeah, absolutely.
And do you know what David Lammy was doing that day?
He was actually demonstrating in the streets...
With a load of, you know, left-wing Trotskyists saying that this man should have no right to even be in the country.
He was actually demonstrating against a democratically elected leader of our greatest friend in the world.
So that's the caliber of this government.
Not only do they think that David Lammy is a good idea to have as Foreign Secretary, they actually think that he's a great and sort of cool ally to have sitting next to them when they go on foreign trips.
But let me tell you this.
So already, Donald Trump has already been very gracious because he invited Keir Starmer and David Lammy into Trump Tower when they were in America the last time.
He gave them a chicken dinner.
But I think Donald Trump is being very clever here because you know him better than I do, Sebastian.
I can see him sitting there.
And just literally playing with them, you know, because they know.
Well, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, this is shades of Mitt Romney.
Mitt Romney, who hated President Trump, ran against him, crashed and burned, and then desperately, like a groveling little chihuahua, said, oh, oh, oh, can I be your Secretary of State?
Can I be your Cabinet member?
And then that photograph of him with the President at Bedminster having dinner with him, and it was like, you know, A cat with a laser.
President Trump was like, oh, yes, you want to be a cabinet member?
Of course, Mitt.
And then, bye-bye, next four years.
And now, of course, he is in irrelevance.
So how does somebody like that get to be the Foreign Secretary, Mike?
Well, because one, I'm afraid to say this, he's black, you know, so they like the idea.
They don't like the idea of promoting people to the top job because, of course, the Conservatives have just now elected a black female to be the fourth female leader of the party.
So far, the Labour Party have managed to elect zero women to be leader of the Labour Party.
They finally got a female chancellor, but it doesn't make any difference to Keir Starmer As long as he can find anybody who's black, give them a big job, because that will help my credentials with the wokest, you know.
But David Lammy is a man also who's actually been campaigning, would you believe, for reparations from the British Empire and the British government to what he calls his people in the Caribbean.
Hang on, his people?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
He's from Tottenham, an area of North London you probably know well.
Oh, yes.
But he identifies as a man from the Caribbean.
And he actually made a statement, a speech, back in about four or five years ago, in which he said, we, the people of the Caribbean, won't take it anymore.
We want reparations for the slave trade.
Unbelievable.
I think we had Rashida Tlaib say the same thing, a member of Congress for the Democrats, talking about my people, the Palestinians.
A, the Palestinians don't exist as a people, and B, you're an American member of Congress.
The lunacy's on both sides of the pond.
Mike is swatting it down every single day.
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All right, before we move on, I want to talk a little bit about you, Mike.
You mentioned this lady.
I think we have a photograph.
So who is this new head of the Conservative Party?
And is she any improvement on the fake conservatives we've had for so long?
I think she is an improvement.
I mean, a lot of people who have moved away from the Conservative Party to go with Nigel Farage and the Reform Party are never going to go back.
They're never going to go back to the Tories because they feel betrayed.
But I think if they've got any hope at all of getting back the middle ground for the sensible people, not the wokest, not the net zero maniacs, not the people who think that some immigration is OK when most of it is actually damaging the country, She is a woman from Nigerian stock, from Nigerian heritage.
She was sent to London by her parents when she was a teenager.
She actually did work in McDonald's, unlike Kamala Harris.
She actually did work in McDonald's.
And she built her way up.
She studied law.
She's become a very outspoken member of the Conservative Party.
And I think she's actually an improvement.
She's certainly an improvement on Rishi Sunak.
But whether or not they will ever recover, I don't know.
Because I think Nigel Farage, as you saw When you probably saw him in Mar-a-Lago, he's on a roll.
I mean, he's literally pushing and pushing and pushing for more and more coverage.
He's got five MPs right now.
You know, come the next election...
OK, OK, let me push back on this, because I saw Nigel there.
And I was going to challenge him on something I've heard, but he was with a lady and I didn't want to embarrass him.
I've heard that he's gone soft now that he's become a member of parliament and maybe the swamp has co-opted him because he's kind of backpedaling on the issue that got him elected and which made Brexit possible.
And he refuses to use the word deportation.
Have we lost Nigel?
What's going on, Mike?
I don't think so.
That's not my understanding.
I mean, I have Nigel on my show.
I had him on my show on the night of the Trump victory, as I did have you on as well.
And I think Nigel's playing a very clever game because, you know, you do understand once you get inside the Westminster swamp, once you get inside the building, which is where he currently is, you know, there are ways that they can control you.
If you don't play it kind of clever.
So I think what he's understood is that there are certain things perhaps that he doesn't do anymore that he could do when he was outside that he shouldn't do when he's inside.
I think he's playing his cards quite close to his chest.
I don't think he's lost at all.
I think we will see reform go from strength to strength and the Tories, I think, are more likely to be the ones who are lost.
Well, I think, I mean, you know much better than I do, I think that the Conservative Party is irredeemable, and I was hoping that reformer Nigel could be the new Conservative Party.
So, Nigel, don't give up.
Don't change course now.
All right, let's talk about your metier, your expertise.
You were very kind on Friday last week to repost an interview I did with Times Radio, and I thought the Times was a big deal when I was a kid.
This chap was the host, this follically challenged individual.
Oh, yes, of course, yeah.
And for nine minutes...
Who is that?
It's John Pienaar.
His name is John Pienaar, and it will not surprise you to know, Sebastian...
That when Times Radio started, he was one of the people they hired from, guess where?
Not the BBC. Oh my God.
Yes, the BBC. For nine minutes, he said, my president, my former boss, is a dictator, an authoritarian.
And the first time I heard that, I said, okay, buddy, give me one example in the four years when he was the president, when he did anything authoritarian, and I'll wait.
And he blustered and he filibustered.
For eight minutes, he couldn't give me one example.
And he never had the honor to actually admit that there is no evidence.
What has happened to...
I remember, as a kid, reading the Evening Standard, the Daily Mail, you know, the crusty, hardcore, working-class guys on Fleet Street who wouldn't give anybody any leeway.
Is that journalism, is that of a bygone era, Mike?
I think it more or less is.
And I mean, I was part of that era, albeit I came at the end of it.
But, you know, we had a very healthy disrespect for all politicians.
You know, I did not come into journalism because I wanted to be a partisan political apparatchik.
You know, I came into journalism because I wanted to ask difficult questions to people who didn't want to answer them.
That's my job.
Right.
I don't care whether you're Donald Trump or whether you're Joe Biden or whether you're Nigel Farage.
You know, I want to ask you a question that might make you feel slightly uncomfortable because I want to see not necessarily what you say, but how you deal with it.
Right.
And so so many of these journalists now that have become part of the story.
They love getting on Air Force One.
They love getting on, you know, planes with with politicians and private jets.
I mean, they're all off in your sort of, you know, founding country, Budapest, this week because Keir Starmer was meeting up with a load of other European leaders to discuss how to deal with Donald Trump, how to react to Donald Trump from a European perspective.
And all the journalists wanted to go because they want to be on a plane with the Prime Minister.
You know, I can't imagine anything worse.
I literally can't imagine anything worse.
And so, you know, I have no ambition to be a political advisor.
I have no ambition to be anything other than what I do.
You know, here's what's going to shock you, Mike.
It's the fact that you don't want to be one that means you should be.
It's like my wife, who hates politics.
I told her 10 years ago, you need to be in politics.
And she said, are you nuts?
I hate politics.
Right.
She went from handing out the sample ballots outside the polling stations four years ago to being now the chair of the Republican Party in the biggest county in Virginia.
So isn't it funny that the people who don't want it should be the ones there, and the people who want it end up being there and shouldn't be there?
We're talking to Mike Graham, the host of Morning Glory on the Superlative Talk TV.
It's just a real bummer.
He's in the mornings now when I'm sleeping.
I'm counting sheep, so I don't get to be on his show.
But he gets to be on mine because he's such a good chap.
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These interviews with our good buddies like Mike Graham, they just fly by.
That wasn't an hour, that was like three minutes.
And we've only got three minutes left.
So Mike, a little bit personal for me.
I only go back to the UK to...
See my buddy, we were in school together from the age of 10 onwards, sitting next to each other, hiding the text to the Latin exams under our elbows.
And I don't get to go back except to see him.
And that's okay because I don't recognize the nation I was born in, the nation I grew up in under the great Margaret Thatcher's.
Ronnie Reagan was the president here in the US where I'm now a proud citizen.
Two minutes, Mike.
Look, we're back.
America's back.
The sheriff is back.
Shane is back.
He's pinned on his badge.
Can the old bulldog British...
Churchillian spirit be resurrected, Mike.
Give us some good news.
I think it can.
I really do think it can.
I think many people are encouraged by what's happened in America.
They will watch with great interest over the next four years what Donald Trump is able to do.
They will see that that is the way forward because, incredibly, the same kinds of problems which have beset the US and have caused Donald Trump to return to office Are the same problems here.
People, ordinary working people, we talked about this on the election night when you were on my show.
Ordinary working people are sick to death of watching illegal migrants coming into the country, being given homes.
Being given hotels to live in, being given free food, being given free travel, being given absolutely every single piece of help that they can be given.
While hard-working people get taxed more, get their kids beaten up in the streets, they're not able to live the lives that they want to live.
They've had enough.
They're fed up.
They need people to lead them out of the way.
London, I'm afraid to say now, and it's not about immigration necessarily and race, but it is the truth to say that White English people are now in a minority in London, right?
Yeah.
Now, you remember growing up in West London, in Ealing, where you used to live, it was always an area of immigration.
Oh, and South Pole was Indian and Pakistani.
My neighbours were Polish or Indian.
But it wasn't a problem.
Everybody was British, Mike.
Yeah, right.
And also everybody worked.
Now what we have is illegal migrants coming here who don't do any work and who just join criminal gangs.
You know, they buy and sell drugs.
They buy and sell people.
They buy and sell prostitution.
We're importing, basically, the criminal third world.
And that's what we need to stop.
And hopefully, we will get somebody, whether it's Nigel Farage, or it's Kemi Badenoch, whoever it is, it certainly won't be Keir Starmer, and it might take us a few more years.
But I believe the people here have had enough, and they want to see a Donald Trump figure emerging from the dark to shine a proper light on us.
One last question I got to squeeze in that I wrote down at the beginning and I didn't even get to the full list.
You know why I like you, Mike?
I don't think we've ever met in person, which is kind of freaky.
We have.
I know.
We must do that.
Oh, we must.
We must.
We must.
You know why you're different?
It's not just the common sense thing and telling the truth.
You are different from most everyone out there.
In the UK media, because whatever you do, you always look authentically like you're having fun!
Why is that?
Why is it that for you it's actually an enjoyable experience and everyone else is such a sullen git?
Oh, I know.
Well, because they'll take themselves so seriously.
I don't take myself seriously, right?
I grew up in North London.
My parents were Scottish.
My father was a great arguer.
He taught me how to argue.
He said, if you want to say something at the dinner table, you better have a good point and you better make it quick because I'm going to be interrupting you all the time.
And so I learned to argue at a very early age and I just love doing it.
I forgot to mention this to you.
You'll be pleased to know I had Trump derangement syndrome patient zero on my show today.
Joe Walsh.
Oh no!
Poor old Joey!
Is he still breathing?
No, he's still upset, right?
He said to me, you know, Kamala Harris did the right thing.
She came out and said she lost.
I said, actually, she didn't say that.
He said she congratulated President Donald Trump.
I said, no, she didn't.
You know, she actually couldn't bring herself to do that.
She said we're going to keep on fighting is what she said.
It wasn't a concession.
No.
And I said to him, Joe, what's wrong with you?
He said, she did what Donald Trump never did.
And I said, well, there was a reason Donald Trump did what he did four years ago, because he thought that he had been...
Where's the 20 million missing votes?
I said, where are they?
And he couldn't answer the question.
He said, I'm not going to get annoyed, and I'm not going to lose my temper.
And then he proceeded to lose his temper.
LAUGHTER Oh, I wish I had known that right.
That's another reason to get you back, but at least I'll have a wonderful clip for tomorrow's show.
Trump derangement syndrome, patient zero.
I do think Joe Walsh may actually qualify for that position.
In the meantime, have a jar on me, my friend, or a little shabbly or a little Pinot Grigio.
He is Mike Graham, the host of the Morning Glory show on Talk TV. Follow him on IROMG. That's the Independent Republic of Mike Graham on Twitter.
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