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July 30, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Soyboy White guys come out for Kamala

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	So, I'm going to go ahead and get started.
	I'm going to go ahead and get started.
	She was watching.
	Oh, she was watching in real time?
	She was watching live.
	It was all over the place.
	It was on television.
	It was on your network.
	But it was all over the place.
	And she was watching.
	I asked her that.
	I mean, I wasn't there.
	I was on the ground.
	And when the world started to, like, you could talk to people, I said, so what was your feeling?
	And she was, she can't really even talk about it.
	Traumatized.
	Which is okay, because that means she likes me.
	Or she loves me.
	That's good.
	I mean, let's say she could talk about it freely.
	That wouldn't be, I'm not so sure.
	Which is better?
	President Trump revealing yesterday that his wife Melania was watching Butler Pennsylvania Live as it happened.
	Jeff, who was, who was the interviewer who was constantly interrupting the president?
	We've got several cuts.
	Who was that?
	That was Laura Ingraham.
	Why does she do that?
	I don't know.
	She does it all the time.
	I don't do that that bad, do I?
	No.
	Like I said, only if we have a hard clock.
	Not a pre-recorded interview there, too, where the time would mean that you would have to cut them off.
	Yeah, so weird.
	Why do you do that, Laura?
	Eric, if you have the clip of the shooting from Butler, I'd like to remind everybody what happened as we are listening to, this morning, the Secret Service Deputy Director, now the Director, try and justify what happened.
	This is what occurred.
	We see something that said, take a look what happened.
	Get down, get down, get down, get down.
	Get down, get down, get down, get down.
	Get down, get down, get down.
	Get down, get down, get down, get down.
	What are we doing?
	What are we doing?
	Don't touch, don't touch, don't touch, don't touch.
	You know what the problem is with the hearing today?
	You know what the problem is with the hearing today?
	With the new director, Director Rowe, who is in place because Cheadle resigned last week.
	The director of the Secret Service really doesn't, you know, manage anything in terms of operations.
	Eric, guess who really runs things for operations at the Secret Service?
	Would that be, say, the head of the presidential detail specifically?
	Um, go a little higher.
	Like, just below the director.
	What do you call somebody below the director?
	Ooh, deputy director?
	Bingo.
	So, the deputy director was really responsible for Butler, and now he's the director.
	Just because he's next in line doesn't mean you've solved anything.
	And the president has been very explicit.
	We heard yesterday, oh, we hope he'll do his events indoors from now on.
	Oh, really?
	What, so you can help Kamala?
	So you can help the Democrats?
	So you can constrain the reach of the President's message so he can't go open air like he did in New Jersey, in the Bronx with 50, 60,000 people?
	What did President Trump say also in that interview, which is, you know, it's just It's hard to credit, hard to believe.
	What did he say about Butler?
	Cut six.
	Let's have a listen.
	So you're going back to Butler to finish that speech, to give another speech.
	I'm going back to, it's interesting to finish it, to say, and now to proceed from where it was.
	To be continued.
	Why?
	It's a very interesting way of looking at it.
	I mean, I think that's, you know, I think I've said that that was a good idea.
	It's a good idea.
	Why?
	I think it's important symbolically.
	I don't think we should be stopped by somebody that has severe mental problems or whatever his problem was.
	You're going to do rallies outside?
	Yeah, I'm going to do rallies.
	Yeah, I'm going to do rallies outside and I'm going back to Butler, Pennsylvania.
	What you didn't hear in that clip there is he's going back.
	Why?
	Laura said to finish his speech.
	That's one way of thinking about it.
	But the president said he's actually going there to pay his respects to Cori Chief, Cori Comparatore.
	The man who died in the line of fire defending his daughter and his wife.
	And the President said also to pay tribute to the others, the two other men, his supporters, who were critically wounded, who are now better.
	But he's not running.
	He's not hiding.
	And what is the best that they have?
	What is the response?
	We're going to analyze that with our first guest.
	But Jeff, what's this thing about The vice president candidate, J.D.
	Vance, is weird?
	Is that the best the Democrats have?
	I mean, open borders, abort the child up until birth, wars across the planet, but J.D.
	Vance is weird?
	Yeah, and it's expanding to now Vance and Trump are weird.
	They've started with that. Eugene Robinson compared that today, said it was weird, he put Trump on it, and so did
	the governor of Minnesota.
	Oh, Eugene Darth Vader Robinson. Let's listen to Eugene Robinson! Cut 11.
	If you have kids, you ought to be able to vote more times in an election than a single person.
	And just all this sort of really, really weird stuff.
	And this is, you know, this is who he is, and I think this is going to keep sort of cropping up.
	And so now we have in Vance and Trump one of the, like, weirdest tickets that I can recall.
	These are two really unusual people who say and do weird things.
	Jeff, I missed that.
	Can you get that cut for me for the next segment where J.D.
	Vance said, if you have children, you get more votes?
	Can you get that clip for me?
	Yeah, I know.
	Democrats are the only people that get more votes.
	They get to vote by mail and in person.
	They get to vote for dead people, right?
	Exactly.
	They're the ones that get more votes, yeah.
	Okay, so this is the weirdest ticket ever.
	Eric, help me list... Hang on, so what's weird?
	You've got a self-made billionaire who's a reality TV show star for 14 seasons, and a marine who ducked himself out of poverty, single mother household, mother's a drug addict, and authored one of the most successful books in recent history.
	So they're the weirdos.
	Let's do the other side of the ledger.
	So, Democrats.
	We've got a woman who...
	at age 29, got involved with a 60-year-old Speaker of the California House and started her career in that fashion, and a senile old machine politician who had two brain aneurysms before he ran for the presidency.
	Let's start with the things around them that aren't weird.
	Who's Richard Levine?
	Remind me, Eric, who Richard Levine is?
	Richard Levine, who likes to pretend that his name is Rachel now, is a man who pretends to be a woman and wears the Navy uniform.
	And he's in the administration, right?
	Yep, top position in the HHS.
	And then who is Sam Brinton?
	Who is that?
	I don't remember which agency.
	Was that transportation?
	No, no.
	Energy.
	He was in charge of nuclear waste for the Department of Energy.
	You know, not exactly taking out the trash.
	I mean, just nuclear waste.
	What was his proclivity?
	What did he like to do at the weekends at Reagan Airport?
	When he wasn't dressing up as women, he liked to steal other people's luggage.
	Female women, right?
	I mean, women's luggage.
	Real women.
	That's one way to identify as a woman, I guess, is to steal women's clothing.
	Okay, and then... What did, uh... What happened on the lawn outside the White House with a man who had fake breasts?
	What did he do on camera when Biden invited him to the White House?
	I try not to think about it.
	He, uh, pulled his top down and exposed them and, like, shook them for a TikTok video.
	Normal, right?
	That's normal.
	Yeah.
	According to the Democrats, yeah, like I said yesterday, they want to make everything that's weird normal, and everything that's normal, weird.
	And then for Easter Sunday, what was that, Jeff?
	What did the White House do for Easter Sunday?
	What was that proclamation that was visibility for Christians, right?
	No, that was Transgender Day.
	Oh yeah, right, on Easter Sunday.
	Got it.
	But we're the weirdos.
	My gosh, it's just like Dennis Prager says, everything they accuse you of doing, they are actually guilty of.
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	You know what they're doing?
	What?
	It's every attack that worked on Biden since he dropped out, they're trying to make it Trump.
	That he's weird, all the weird stuff, and he's old and he's incoherent.
	That's exactly what they're trying to do.
	But why?
	Because they just don't have any imagination?
	I think they see that it worked, so they think they can flip it back.
	Ooh, interesting.
	That's really good analysis.
	We'll have you mention that with Chris.
	But it didn't work, though.
	Trump didn't try calling Biden weird.
	No, we did.
	Everybody else did with the hair sniffing and everything else.
	Yeah, the hair sniffing, his uncle got eaten by cannibals.
	But that's not what they're saying about Trump.
	The thing is, they're not even expanding on it.
	They're trying to make it like a hashtag, like t-shirts with just the word weird.
	Again, are they gonna start calling them meanies next?
	Like, it's so... Do you have the tweet, Elon's tweet, of Chris's video?
	I don't have the tweet, I just have the video itself.
	Yeah, I'm gonna tee it up, but we need to have... that tweet.
	Where he violated Terms of Service.
	Who would watch that and think that's a really good ad?
	Right.
	I just need a title for Megan.
	Hang on, let me just send you these images.
	Alright.
	Come on... Let's see where... It wasn't ringing, so he's restarting his computer real fast.
	Okay, alright.
	What's good to come in on?
	Come in with 10 if he's not if he's not up yet I'll...
	Otherwise I'll tee up his parody right after doing Truth Warriors.
	Truth Warriors first and then?
	Truth Warriors and I'll tee up the thing.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	Where is the pinned tweet?
	Thank you.
	What is it?
	Come on.
	What is it?
	Bye.
	you Man alive, how much does Elon tweet?
	God blimey.
	A lot.
	Oh, we're connected now.
	Alright.
	Good morning, Mr. Coles.
	Chris, can you hear us?
	Thank you.
	I can.
	There we go.
	Alright, so, Truth Wars in a TFL.
	Thanks for watching.
	Peace.
	Yes, stand up Gorka, quick, get up!
	How good, how good is he, Sebastian?
	Seb, they call him Seb, I call him Sebastian.
	America first.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Thank you, you can call me whatever you want.
	I'm looking for a certain tweet by Elon Musk.
	I only found a German version.
	Excuse me.
	Elon Musk has shared this parody of a Kamala Harris election campaign spot on X.
	56 million views in 12 hours.
	What is he talking about?
	We'll have the guy responsible for that historic tweet in a moment on the show.
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	Alright, so what did Elon Musk retweet at the weekend, which proves the left has no sense of humor?
	It's Kamala Harris' latest ad.
	Wink wink.
	I Kamala Harris and your Democrat candidate for president because Joe Biden finally exposed the senility of the debate.
	I was selected because I am the ultimate diversity hire.
	I'm both a woman and a person of color.
	So if you criticize anything I say, you're both sexist and racist.
	I may not know the first thing about running the country, but remember, that's a good thing if you're a deep state puppet.
	I had four years under the tutelage of the ultimate deep state puppet, a wonderful mentor, Joe Biden.
	Joe taught me rule number one, carefully hide your total incompetence.
	I take insignificant things and I discuss them as if they're significant.
	And I believe that exploring the significance of the insignificant is in itself significant.
	Talking about the significance of the passage of time.
	Right?
	The significance of the passage of time.
	So when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time and there is such great significance to the passage of time Another trick is trying to sound black.
	I pretend to celebrate Kwanzaa, and in my speeches I always do my best Barack Obama impression.
	So hear me when I say, I know Donald Trump's type.
	And okay, look, maybe my work addressing the root causes of the border crisis were catastrophic, but my knowledge of international politics is truly shocking.
	The United States shares a very important relationship, which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea.
	It is an alliance that is strong and enduring.
	And just remember, when voting this November, it is important to see what can be unburdened by what has been.
	And by what has been, I mean Joe Biden.
	You think the country went to s*** over the past four years?
	You ain't seen nothing yet.
	That laugh at the end is absolutely real.
	As is this symbol!
	You might have recognized it if you're a regular listener and viewer on Fridays and a subscriber to a superlative YouTube channel.
	It's called Mr. Reagan.
	One of the best titled YouTube channels out there.
	Who's behind that parody?
	Or is it a parody?
	The one, the only, Chris Coles!
	Good morning to you, sir.
	Good morning, great to be on the show again.
	Alright, you're on the other side of the planet, so thank you for staying up to talk to us and all of our listeners across the nation.
	What's it like to have been retweeted by Elon Musk?
	Tell us, I need to know, because you're famous now.
	I didn't think I'd know anybody famous, but what's it like, Chris?
	I know you don't know anybody famous, do you, Seb?
	If you walk through CPAC with this guy, by the way, it is A crazy experience.
	I think that was actually more powerful than this.
	You should come with me to the gun show.
	That's even more crazy than CPAC.
	I listened to your live stream with your buddy yesterday with Jason.
	When did he retweet it?
	Was it Saturday or when did he pin it?
	When was it?
	I think it was Friday.
	How's your life changed in the last three days?
	Tell us about your life, Chris, in the last three days.
	You know what?
	It wasn't as big of an impact as you might think because he embedded the video.
	So most of the people who saw the video have no idea who made it.
	They have no idea that I made it.
	The few people who searched me out did, you know, add me on Twitter on X and they added, you know,
	so a few people added me on YouTube.
	So it wasn't as big of an impact as you might think, but really the bigger impact I think is like,
	news media sought me out, right?
	Because they were like, who made this video?
	And everybody wants to know what AI software that I use to make the Kamala Harris voice.
	So number one, you showed me the communications from these hack journalists who aren't journalists.
	A, they're clinical imbeciles because they don't know who you are and they can't look up who actually runs your YouTube channel because you're not, you're not libs of TikTok.
	You're not anonymous.
	And they only want to know what AI program you're using so they can dox and destroy the company.
	Right, Chris?
	I believe that's true, yes.
	So I told no one what AI program that I use.
	I will say there was one journalist, if you watch the ABC report, ABC News report, on this whole scenario, there's a journalist named Emanuela Saliba.
	I should have memorized that before I got on the show, but she was great, actually.
	She was the one journalist who actually reported everything Accurately and fair.
	And she talked to me for like, she like texted me for like an hour the other night.
	And then she goes on the show and she was like, you know, legitimate.
	She was like a legitimate journalist.
	But every other journalist... Are you going to date her?
	Are you going to date her?
	No, no, no.
	But every other journalist comes out and they're like, they're like, they all sing the same tune.
	You know, they go Elon Musk intentionally tried to deceive the public.
	Yes, he tried to deceive the public with an ad from Kamala Harris where she says, I'm the ultimate DEI hire.
	I'm a deep state puppet.
	And Joe Biden taught me to carefully hide my total incompetence.
	And I always try to sound black.
	Yes, yes, that he was trying to trick you into thinking that that was real.
	Because suddenly he's pro-Kamala.
	The guy who gives $45 million a month to Donald Trump is suddenly saying, amazing ad from Kamala because I'm voting for her.
	I mean, are these people, do they just have no sense of humor?
	Are they dumb?
	Are they both?
	Chris, you're in the firing line.
	As you said on your live stream yesterday, you feel so good, like we did in the White House, because you're finally taking flack from everyone who's bad.
	Oh, it's fantastic.
	I love getting hit from the left.
	I love getting hit from the New York Times.
	I love it because it means that what I did is effective, right?
	And I think there's a few reasons why it's effective.
	One, obviously, Elon Musk tweeted it.
	He's got huge reach.
	It's amazing.
	But Elon Musk tweets a lot of things.
	Not everything goes super viral like this did.
	I would call this nuclear.
	This went nuclear.
	How many views did you get of the video on Twitter?
	What are you up to?
	I think he's up to 130 million views on the original one that he posted.
	I haven't calculated them all together, but it's probably something like 200 million.
	It's insane.
	All right, stay there.
	We're going to continue the discussion.
	You don't get to go to bed yet.
	You've got to watch the video on his YouTube, his response video I just put up as well, at Mr. Reagan, MrReaganUSA on Twitter, also The Alpha Critic.
	Make sure you give us a follow as well because we told Elon who it is.
	Just, you know, hey Elon, this is Mr. Reagan.
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	Okay, go ahead.
	Line one, you said?
	Yeah.
	Alright, go ahead, Alex.
	Hi, who's this?
	Yeah, hello.
	Hello.
	Yeah, my name's Carl.
	Hi, Carl.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Yeah, my comment is with this whole ridiculous weird thing.
	I mean, for starters, it's on like the level of a first grader, but I think we should just do with it like we did with Brandon.
	Just embrace it as a way of totally mocking them.
	Put it on hats, put it on t-shirts, whatever.
	It's beyond stupid.
	Just throw it back at them like that.
	Yeah, I think you're wrong because they're the weird ones.
	We should use it against them and call them the weird ones because they're perverts.
	Don't you agree?
	I mean, you could, but I just think it would be funny just to embrace it and be like, yeah, whatever.
	We're not going to take your advice because we don't listen to Democrats.
	Now give your phone back to your mother, okay?
	Bye-bye.
	Mic's off.
	Or they were already on.
	Back to Chris.
	Back to Chris.
	It seems like he enjoyed that.
	Send me the ABC video.
	I'd love to see that.
	Okay.
	Did you see the Maduro thing where he like kidnapped his opponent?
	I saw, I just saw that as soon as we were coming on.
	Unbelievable.
	Yeah, just, just, it's breaking.
	Yeah, crazy.
	We're going to have my former deputy, Breitbart, come on next hour.
	She's an expert on Latin America.
	Oh, perfect.
	That's perfect.
	There's a lot of stuff going on on Twitter.
	I thought I saw some tweets saying that he already fled the presidential palace.
	Is that true, or is that garbage?
	Who?
	Maduro?
	He needs to, because he's going to get killed if he doesn't leave.
	I don't think he has.
	I think he just had the opposition leader arrested.
	Well, sometimes... Sometimes I think they... Oh, you did send me the German one.
	That's hilarious.
	Isn't that funny?
	Yeah, sometimes they just... Yeah, it's funny.
	That's very funny.
	I saw a Belgian one as well, and there's some Belgians that are staying here, and I wanted to show them.
	But, you know, it's... What were we talking about before, the German thing?
	Venezuela.
	Yeah, the Maduro thing.
	I posted something about... Everybody's kind of saying the same thing, which is like, it feels like what happened to Trump over the past, like, year and a half.
	Right, that's what you posted.
	I saw that.
	I saw that.
	Yeah.
	All right, so I'm probably going to ask you about the...
	JD's so weird, but we'll keep talking about the video first.
	Okay.
	Yeah, we can talk about that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You want to use a cut here?
	Come in with four and I'll do my pillow.
	Four and then pillow.
	Need a title for the monologue as well.
	Uh, monologue.
	What was that?
	the weird thing and like oh who are some of the weirdos they had like oh yeah
	so who's really weird Question mark, exclamation.
	Alright.
	Uh, you said come in with four?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And then pillow.
	Question mark, exclamation.
	Uh, still need a title for Meg as well.
	Mm-hmm.
	40 seconds.
	I got three cuts in the secret service thing.
	Oh, good.
	One was he said it was a failure of imagination.
	Imagination, yeah.
	What a fucking thing to say.
	I know.
	Then Kennedy asked the acting or the deputy FBI director about the Trump hit with a bullet.
	He said the FBI never doubted he was hit with a bullet.
	Nice.
	And then Holly's going after him a bunch of times.
	♪♪ She's worse than Bernie Sanders.
	Now, she's trying to come back.
	She got rid of the laugh.
	I noticed I haven't seen that crazy laugh that she gets.
	She's crazy.
	That laugh, that's the laugh of a crazy person.
	But I noticed that she's not using that laugh anymore.
	Somebody convinced her, don't laugh.
	Just don't laugh.
	She's not using that laugh because it's at the end of our buddy Chris Coles' parody video of Kamala Harris that Elon must retweet it.
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	Jeff, is it true you've got cuts for us from the hearing that's going right now in the Senate with the new Director of the Secret Service?
	Yes, but I'm not sure if they're loaded up yet.
	No, no, no.
	I just want to ask, did you say that the first cut, he actually said that Butler, Pennsylvania was a failure of imagination?
	Yes.
	So, a guy with a gun shooting the president isn't the thing the Secret Service is created to stop?
	Maybe they need to reimagine it, like the whole defund the police movement.
	Maybe Kamala can help them reimagine it.
	Let's talk to the man who has probably done more damage to the Kamala campaign than anything else that has happened since Biden stepped down.
	Chris, what does this... Okay, first things first.
	How desperate are you now to meet Elon and to say thank you, Elon?
	I figure we'll run into each other at some point.
	I think we can make that happen.
	I think we can make that happen.
	And then let's talk about the genesis of why they reach out to you.
	I cannot believe that any of these journalists, Gavin Newsom, who wants to make videos like yours illegal, every single person knows they're a parody, right?
	Or am I being naive?
	No, they're lying.
	They're lying.
	It's all a lie, right?
	It's all a show.
	Because the thing is, they know... There's three things about this video that are impactful, right?
	Obviously, the first thing is that Elon Musk tweeted it out.
	He's got massive reach.
	He's very famous.
	He's a very important guy.
	So that hurts them alone.
	But secondly, you know, not everything he posts goes viral, as I said.
	So why did this go viral?
	Well, I think it's because what I say in the video is what a lot of people are thinking already.
	And I kept it pretty simple to like a few, you know, primary points.
	I didn't go too crazy into the weeds, into the details of politics, which I think some parodies do.
	I just said the main things, right?
	She's a diversity hire.
	She's incompetent.
	This kind of stuff.
	And people are like, yes, it's actually true.
	And the reason it's a parody isn't because of what I said.
	A lot of people in the comments are saying, I don't get why this is a parody.
	Everything that's said in this video is true.
	The reason that it's a parody is because there's no way Kamala Harris would ever say that in an ad, right?
	That's why it's funny.
	That's the whole idea.
	But the third reason is because It does sound like her, and I think a lot of people... I wasn't 100% happy with the AI voice.
	I was trying to tweak it a little bit, but it was getting late and I was just like, screw it, and I put out the video.
	I was actually not happy with it.
	But so many people in the media are like, This is indistinguishable from Kamala Harris's voice.
	It's not necessarily that they think that this fooled anyone, but they think if I had been more sinister, it could have fooled people, and I could have really tricked people and done something bad.
	And I think that this scares people.
	Unlike the following from a Democrat PAC that is real but should be parody.
	And I'm going to pot this down halfway through.
	I don't know if you've seen this.
	This is cut 16.
	This is actually real.
	Us MAGA Republicans banned abortion, but that's just the start.
	That's just the start.
	If Trump gets elected, we want the government involved in all aspects of your sex life.
	Way more involved.
	Way more involved.
	When you have sexual intercourse, it should be illegal to use contraception.
	No pills, no condoms.
	Your genitals are reserved for procreation.
	Now, Chris, that should be a parody, but that's actually a real... What I said to Jeff, he said, that's not real.
	That's a real Democrat PAC ad, Chris.
	Yeah, well, it's real in the sense that it's not AI, but these are all actors, obviously, that have been paid to come and do this weird thing.
	But it's not comedy!
	It's not a comedy skit!
	Well, I don't know what they're trying to do with it.
	Yeah, I did see that before I came on the show.
	That's kind of being posted on X, and it's so cringe, right?
	I don't know if you've seen this.
	I posted earlier, I posted this Kamala Harris Wakanda Forever thing, where she's trying to run for the Senate of Wakanda.
	The left doesn't know how to make comedy videos.
	They don't know how to make, I don't know what happened.
	They used to be so good at propaganda.
	You look at Hollywood, they used to be amazing.
	You know, if they wanted to produce something that was like pro-lefty, you know,
	that's why our civilization is the way that it is now, because they were so good at promoting
	these ridiculous, terrible ideas.
	And now they've gone, I don't know, they've gone into crazy land.
	They can't even produce propaganda anymore.
	It's weird.
	All right, well, you keep doing what you do, and I think we're gonna have to arrange that meeting
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	The failure of imagination.
	Yep.
	Number one, Jeff.
	Just how dumb is Aunt Molly John Fast?
	J.D.
	Vance's children wouldn't even be white.
	Doesn't she know who J.D.' 's married to?
	Hashtag just another hack.
	Or how about just another cat lady?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Hashtag cat lady.
	Nice.
	Yes.
	Four.
	Great, great point from President Trump.
	How come Kamala isn't using her cackle anymore?
	Six.
	Truly unstoppable.
	President Trump says he's going back to Butler, Pennsylvania to finish his speech.
	Seven.
	What must it have been like?
	Question mark.
	Melania Trump watched President Trump getting shot live.
	And then ten.
	Remember when Biden said he's gonna turn down... What was it?
	Turn down the heat?
	What was it?
	I think it was temperature or something.
	Turn down the temperature.
	Lower temperature.
	This was him yesterday in Texas talking about MAGA extremists.
	All right, coming in with cut twangs imagination you
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	This was a failure of imagination.
	A failure to imagine that we actually do live in a very dangerous world where people do actually want to do harm to our protectees.
	I think it was a failure to challenge our own assumptions.
	The assumptions that.
	We know our partners are going to do everything they can, and they do this every day.
	But we didn't challenge our own assumptions of.
	We assume that someone's going to cover that.
	We assume that there's going to be uniform presence.
	We didn't challenge that internally during that advance.
	What a complete crock.
	The current director of the Secret Service, Ronald Roe, testifying right now in front of the Senate.
	A failure rematch.
	So a man with a gun shooting President Trump is something you couldn't have predicted?
	Well then you should be fired as well!
	Or at least resign if you had any honour.
	But of course not, because you're just another apparatchik who is covering his backside.
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	Sebastian, it is an honor to be speaking with you again.
	And I have a kind of a heavy subject.
	And that is Donald Trump moving away from the pro-life movement.
	And I've heard several reasons why.
	What do you mean?
	How has he done that?
	Well, is the pro-life movement on his campaign platform.
	Is it in the Republican platform?
	Why does he have to prove himself?
	He's the only president to ever address the March for Life, and he's the person whose nominees struck down Roe v. Wade.
	So explain to me how he's moving away from the pro-life movement, Dale.
	Well, it's not part of the platform anymore.
	I mean, that's what I'm addressing.
	Because he did the right thing, and he sent it back to the states as it should be.
	He did.
	Correct.
	So how is that moving away from pro-life when he's achieved the ultimate thing that I, as a cradle Catholic, never thought would happen in my lifetime?
	How is that moving away from it?
	He sent it back to the states.
	He doesn't talk for the states.
	He's the president.
	So why is he moving away from it after the greatest victory in the last hundred years?
	Because he has the bully pulpit.
	But he's moved it to the states.
	He's not a governor, so how's he moving away from the pro-life if he sent it to the states?
	I don't understand the criticism.
	Well, if I could finish the sentence, I think I could probably clarify.
	Okay, so the Republican Party has moved away Well, I disagree with that.
	You have yet to provide me evidence of that.
	I'll state one more time, and we'll try one more time, Dale.
	He has sent it to the states, where it should reside.
	He's not a governor.
	He's running for the presidency.
	So how has he moved away from it after sending it to the states?
	I realize that.
	It is not a party platform anymore, and the reason why... Because it need not be, because it's not a federal issue.
	I think like we're talking on two different frequencies.
	We're not.
	It's not a federal issue.
	It has been sent back to the states.
	The presidency is a federal office.
	So how has he moved away from the issue?
	The party transcends the federal.
	Not when you're talking about a presidential election.
	Okay, get to your next point, because we're not going to agree on this.
	What's your next point, Dale?
	The reason why they moved away from it as a party is because this perceived we got shellacked in 2022.
	And the reason why we got shellacked is because Rona Romney was actively working against that part of our party.
	The Christians, the Christians who levitate towards the Republican Party, solely based on the fact of God's principle of life, which is the one thing that has brought me back to a deep respect for the Catholic Church, you being chief among them, and Paul King or the other, and a recognition that the Evangelical Church, the Protestant Church, is somewhat schizophrenic on the idea.
	And we need to work together on this thing.
	You have the ear of the President.
	And it would be a great benefit to the conservative Christians who tend to vote Republican for him to continue to embrace us, to court us.
	Because the Christians, Seb, and you know this, will not vote for anyone in the GOP who is not pro-life.
	Yeah, I don't think the issue is that.
	I don't think the issue is Christians not voting for somebody who's not pro-life.
	I think we have a far deeper issue with woke pseudo-Christians, especially in the Evangelical Church and the Catholic Church, who won't vote for President Trump because of, I don't know, mean tweets.
	I don't think this issue is going to be decided by Christians who are pro-life not voting for President Trump.
	You really think that's the problem?
	Or you don't think the problem is woke Christians, Dale?
	Oh, that's always a problem.
	Right!
	But I think that's the bigger problem, right?
	I mean, how can you not reward President Trump with your support after he struck down, through his nominees, Roe v. Wade?
	I mean, I just don't understand how any Christian can say, well, I'm not going to vote for President Trump after he struck down Roe v. Wade.
	It beggars belief.
	I will support President Trump.
	Because of that very thing that he has proven himself a fighter.
	What I want him to do is to encourage, continue to encourage, the pro-life Christian base to keep fighting in their states.
	Oh, okay.
	That's good.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	And I think there's nothing he's gained said in any way, shape, or form when it comes to the states and his speech.
	I recommend everyone listening.
	You doubt President Trump's commitment to pro-life.
	Listen to his speech.
	I was there to the pro-life movement, but that we can definitely agree upon.
	The fight is now at the state level.
	Absolutely correct, Dale.
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	Yeah, but he's not running and now she's supporting Harris.
	How is this news?
	I still can't get over the abortion thing.
	By them arguing, you're almost saying that Roe v. Wade shouldn't have been overturned and it should be a federal issue.
	You know what I mean?
	Was I off?
	No, I don't think people understand the difference.
	Why doesn't he put, like, what the driving age should be on the platform?
	It's a state issue.
	They have nothing to do with it anymore.
	I thought that was the whole goal to get it back to states.
	And with a lot of stuff.
	It's not just that should be, but... I'm just sick and tired of the lie that abortion is the reason the midterms were washed.
	That was definitely not the reason.
	It was not.
	I would say it was probably more just younger voters in general coming out and voting.
	And they vote on everything from global warming to guns.
	It's not just abortion, but I mean... And this is actually a thing that keeps being pointed out too.
	People forget about this.
	Yeah, we did not pick up the tidal wave of seats we wanted, but if you look at the national popular vote in the house elections in 2022, we did win the national popular vote by about 3 million.
	But my favorite is, do you know how many morons that are pro-abortion will vote federally now on the abortion stance, and not even know what their state, people, like, what their issue is?
	Right.
	Like, they don't even understand it.
	It's... Right.
	Well, and even, too, you had states like Kentucky, which, yeah, narrowly passed a pro-choice law ballot referendum, but then Rand Paul still won re-election.
	So it's like, clearly it's not affecting down-ballot races and hurting Republicans in office, either.
	I just, I just don't get the whole abortion thing.
	It's already losing steam and I think they know it.
	It's got a shot in the arm now that Kamal, they have a woman as their nominee, but I don't think it'll have the impact everyone thinks it will.
	Any last cuts you want to use here in this segment?
	Jeff, what do you think of the abortion thing?
	I think you should be.
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	Dr. G, which one has a better ring?
	Kami Kamala or Kamala Rouge?
	Kamala Rouge?
	I like Kamala Rouge, but you have to know your history.
	You have to know about Southeast Asia.
	Kami Kamala, probably, if I had to choose.
	I would really hope that the president would start using Kami Kamala instead of Lion Kamala, because I really think it fits her.
	I mean, we have to strike home that she's a Marxist.
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	Judy Brooklyn.
	Hi, hope you can hear me.
	I'm in a car traveling, whatever, quite far.
	But you know something?
	I just want to address Dale, okay?
	As far as abortion goes.
	Yes, go ahead.
	President Trump is not a dictator, okay?
	He believes in choice and freedom to choose here in America.
	It's not like he's making people do yes or no, whatever.
	It's their choice, okay?
	Simple as that, okay?
	That's what I want to say.
	Whereas the Democrats, they're using this.
	They're using this as a point.
	They really know the truth, but they always twist everything to make it seem like the Republicans are so bad that they're just Yeah, I kind of get it, but I wouldn't use the word choice with regards to abortion around President Trump.
	What he believes in is sending it back to the states, and that's what he gave us with those amazing Supreme Court decisions.
	Thank you, Judy.
	Let's squeeze in one more call.
	Our friend Don from Los Angeles.
	You've got 60 seconds.
	Hit me, brother.
	Dr. G, I got a great idea for a movie.
	How about if we call it Lady Predator and the star will be Brittany Griner?
	Ooh, you know, she does look a little bit like Peter... What was the name of the actor who played the Predator?
	Not Peter... She's got a deeper voice, unfortunately.
	Peter Hall!
	Peter Hall!
	Yes, but there is a certain resemblance, I agree.
	Have we reviewed Predator?
	We have, right, Eric?
	We did.
	Alright, what else would you like to say?
	That was one down, 30 seconds to go, my friend.
	Real quickly, this fake election in Venezuela.
	I don't think, obviously Biden isn't doing enough.
	I hope when Mr. Trump gets in, God willing, that we start doing more to really promote freedom just by helping the Venezuelans and other people in Latin America liberate themselves.
	We don't have to be like Reagan didn't stand a chance.
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	You You
	Senator, there is absolutely no doubt in the FBI's mind whether former President Trump was hit with the With a bullet and wounded in the ear.
	No doubt, there never has been.
	I've been part of this investigation since the very beginning.
	Has the person who decided, who made the decision to send Donald Trump on the stage knowing that you had a security situation, has that person been relieved of duty?
	No sir, they haven't.
	Has the person who decided not to pull the former president off of stage when you knew that in your words the locals were working a serious security situation, has that person been relieved of duty?
	No, sir.
	I just want to make sure I get this.
	You You
	As the person who decided, who made the decision to send Donald Trump on the stage knowing that you had a security situation, has that person been relieved of duty?
	No, sir, they haven't.
	As the person who decided not to pull the former president off of stage when you knew that, in your words, the locals were working a serious security situation, has that person been relieved of duty?
	No, sir.
	Again, I refer you back to my original answer that we are investigating this through a mission assurance, and as opposed to zeroing in on one or two individuals, we want to find out exactly what the decision-making process was.
	What more do you need to investigate to know that there were critical enough failures that some individuals ought to be held accountable?
	I mean, what more do you need to know?
	What I need to know is exactly what happened, and I need my investigators to do their job, and I cannot... A lot of people didn't do their jobs.
	I cannot put my thumb on the scale.
	Otherwise... What do you mean, put your thumb on the scale?
	You're asking me, Senator, to completely make a rush to judgment about somebody failing.
	I acknowledge this was a failure of a secret service.
	Is it not prima facie that somebody has failed?
	The former president was shot!
	Sir, this could have been our Texas school book depository.
	I have lost sleep over that for the last 17 days, just like you have.
	I will tell you, Senator, that I will not rush to judgment, that people will be held accountable, and I will do so with integrity, and not rush to judgment and put people unfairly persecuted.
	I can't believe that you are unfairly persecuted.
	We've got people who are dead!
	We have to be able to have a proper investigation into this, Senator.
	Heated exchange moments ago between the new acting director of the Secret Service, Ronald Rowe Jr., and Senator Josh Hawley.
	Seventeen days later, he's having sleepless nights.
	I wonder what's happening to the family of the fire chief who was murdered, Corey Compretore.
	That seems to have escaped the motivations of the new acting director.
	How do we put this into the context of presidential politics and the next 99 days of the campaign?
	The perfect person to ask is an individual who's written several works on presidential history.
	His latest book, however, is of a far broader scope, The Political and Strategic History of the World, Volume 1, From Antiquity to the Caesars, 14 Anno Domini.
	We welcome back to America First, Lord Conrad Black.
	Lord Black, in the history of Historic events, attempted assassinations, assassinations.
	Is it fair to say it's quite unusual that it's taking so long for the FBI or the Secret Service or the DOJ?
	Neither of these entities has held a press conference since the attempted assassination in Butler, Pennsylvania 17 days ago.
	Yeah, I think that is very odd.
	It's certainly very odd.
	Look, on the I mean, I think he's within his rights to say that he hasn't suspended from active service the people that the senator identified by the tasks that they performed, not by name.
	I mean, I think he's within his rights to say, I want to know exactly what happened.
	And the whole story before I do that.
	But on the other hand, given the circumstances, I don't know why they haven't moved faster, and certainly why they haven't, you know, had a press conference.
	I mean, it was very conspicuous on the night of the incident when they weren't present, and local law enforcement and state police were, and the FBI was, but Secret Service was not.
	And I don't know what the former director thought she was doing, but I don't have any reason to believe that this man is trying to slow things down or cover things up.
	But in the circumstances, you do as much as you can to give everybody in the country a comfort level that the Secret Service are being seriously directed uh... that this was uh... an anomaly in that everyone wants
	to get to the bottom of it very quickly
	uh... he sounded to me like he was sort of a purposeful man getting on with it
	uh...
	inconveniently uh... deliberate case and and with
	uh... and without the proper consideration to public curiosity about
	what and and official curiosity about what happened I mean, it's an absolute outrage on the facts we now know.
	Here's this guy wandering around on our rooftop, visible to various people, reported before, some time before, and as it turns out, with a gun, with a rangefinder, with a whole kit of stuff, and nobody thinks to tell the Presidential candidate and former president that he should delay things for a few minutes pending the resolution of this.
	I mean, it is incomprehensible and I'm I think everybody's scandalized by it.
	Let me ask you an organizational question, because you've run massive entities such as the Hollinger Group.
	The Secret Service really only has one mission, which is to protect the president, former presidents, and their families.
	And they have a three billion dollar budget to do so.
	This isn't some abstruse, complex plot.
	This was exactly like Dealey Plaza.
	One man with a rifle.
	This is the scenario they should be able to imagine and counter.
	The same individual, director Rowe, prior to what exchange was had with Josh Hawley said this was a, in his official statement, said this was a failure of imagination.
	Well, if a ten-year-old can't, you know, imagine a replication of what happened in Texas in 1963, then the question is, is the entity salvageable if the primary mission for their existence is something that eludes them?
	And now we have the latest video, Lord Black, that the individual was identified as a suspect or a suspicious actor 90 minutes before the event started.
	Organizationally, is this an entity that can actually be fixed?
	Yes, it can be fixed, but it might take radical changes in personnel.
	I mean, just building on what you said, the incident occurred and they knew All of the official people involved, all the local police, state police, FBI, Secret Service, they knew who they were.
	They should have comprehensibly interviewed all of them within 24 hours.
	Now, why it has gone on this long, and this guy can come out and tell Senator Hawley today, weeks later, that he won't have a rush to judgment, is, to me, inexcusable.
	I mean, the fact is, they should have They should have interviewed these people intensively, under oath, and very professionally, right away.
	Give them two days instead of one to interview all of them.
	And they should have been able to put together exactly what happened and who dropped the ball within a few days and acted accordingly.
	If it had been something where Well, involved in protecting a presidential candidate, some smash-and-grab incident that happened at the store, and one of the Secret Service people was a witness or something.
	If they take a few weeks dealing with that, that you'd understand.
	But we're talking about the attempted assassination of the President of the United States, a former and possibly future president.
	And what does it say of the president?
	We've got a minute left in this segment with Lord Conrad Black, but on Friday on his social media platform and yesterday on Fox, he said, I am going back to Butler, Pennsylvania to finish my speech and in a tribute to Chief Cory Compatore.
	Very admirable and exactly the right thing to do.
	And fortunately, he himself was not seriously injured.
	And we don't want to stigmatize the town of Butler.
	This could have happened anywhere.
	And he's right to go back and make a clean slate of it.
	And to do it on behalf of that municipality in that area.
	It's not a bad place.
	It's not full of bad people.
	It was a freakish incident.
	And also he reiterated that he will not be doing what the former director of the Secret Service requested, which is to limit his campaign events to in-door locales.
	He says, no, I will do open-air ones as well.
	Good for President Trump.
	Exactly.
	The answer to this is not Yes.
	Exactly.
	We're talking to the co-host of the podcast, Scholars in Sense, along with our good friend Victor Davis Hanson and Bill Bennett, the author most recently of a book I warmly recommend to you, The Political and Strategic History of the World.
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	is talk about the documents.
	I was allowed the Presidential Records Act, but we won the case and the press hardly reports it.
	Now with Biden, he really was convicted of that case.
	He was let go of that case.
	And by the way, you're talking about many more and he didn't have Presidential Records Act.
	Just one thing, Laura.
	They said he was incompetent and therefore he can't stand trial.
	And yet he would have been allowed to be president.
	Think of that.
	So he sort of semi won it.
	Of course, you don't want to have that kind of a victory.
	You win because you're incompetent.
	And I have the cut of Ted Cruz.
	Oh, good.
	Hang on a second.
	What are the cuts from yesterday?
	Did we have Vance talking about his service in Iraq?
	Did we have that?
	Let me see.
	I know the one you're talking about.
	I got it here.
	Okay.
	How long is it?
	No, no, no.
	I'm saying I have the cut sheet from yesterday.
	There's one where he defends his cat lady comments.
	No, no, no.
	No, I don't see one talk about his service on here.
	No, at least not from yesterday.
	Okay, all right, play me the Cruz Cut.
	Your testimony that in Butler, Pennsylvania, Donald Trump had the same number of agents protecting him that Joe Biden has at a comparable event.
	I'm telling you the shift, the close protection shift surrounding.
	That's what you asked me, Senator, and I'm trying to answer it.
	You are not answering it.
	Is it the same number of agents or not?
	Senator, there is a difference between the sitting President of the United States... Then what's the difference?
	The difference?
	2X, 3X, 5X, 10X?
	National Command Authority to launch a nuclear strike, sir.
	I'm not asking... There are other assets... How many more agents?
	...that travel with the President that the former President will not get.
	Sir, sir, you are refusing to answer straight... But the number of Secret Service agents protecting him... Sir, stop interrupting me.
	Go ahead, Senator.
	You are refusing to answer clear and direct questions.
	I am asking the relative difference in the number of agents Between those assigned to Donald Trump and those assigned to Joe Biden.
	I'm not asking why you assign more to Joe Biden.
	I'm asking is the difference, is it 2x?
	Is it 3x?
	Is it 5x?
	Is it 10x?
	Senator, I will get you that number so you can see it with your own eyes.
	Wow, that's great.
	Come in with that.
	I'll do Truth Warriors and then I'll pivot to Vance and Weird.
	Um, I'll probably put it in, I'll couch it in terms of the car rove cut.
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	All right, 70 seconds.
	Okay, good.
	All right, so we're going to come in with the cruise cut, Conrad.
	Okay.
	Oh, and I connected you, I finally found the email to Clyde.
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	Your testimony that in Butler, Pennsylvania, Donald Trump had the same number of agents protecting him that Joe Biden has at a comparable event.
	I'm telling you the shift, the close protection shift surrounding.
	That's what you asked me, Senator, and I'm trying to answer it.
	You are not answering it.
	Is it the same number of agents or not?
	Senator, there is a difference between the sitting president of the United States... Then what's the difference?
	The difference?
	2X, 3X, 5X, 10X?
	National Command Authority to launch a nuclear strike, sir.
	I'm not asking... There are other assets... How many more agents?
	...that travel with the president that the former president will not get.
	Sir, sir, you are refusing to answer straight... But the number of Secret Service agents protecting him... Sir, stop interrupting me.
	Go ahead, Senator.
	You are refusing to answer clear and direct questions.
	I am asking the relative difference in the number of agents Between those assigned to Donald Trump and those assigned to Joe Biden.
	I'm not asking why you assign more to Joe Biden.
	I'm asking, is the difference, is it 2x?
	Is it 3x?
	Is it 5x?
	Is it 10x?
	Senator, I will get you that number so you can see it with your own eyes.
	What, you can't... How does the deputy director, now acting director, of this secret service not know the difference in detail size for the incumbent president and the former president and leader of the opposition?
	I think something stinks.
	And Ronald Rowe was getting rather argumentative, as you can hear, with Senator Ted Cruz.
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	Yeah, so it seems.
	I mean, that was a very simple question, a very logical question Senator Cruz posed, and he started in to lecture the Senate on the differences between an incumbent president with the powers of commander-in-chief over nuclear weapons and a candidate.
	I mean, something as plodding and pedantic as that makes me fear that if this guy's the number two, Acting number one in the Secret Service, what you've got to do is simply decapitate the entire leadership group and put in new people.
	I mean, that's just the response of a sclerotic organization.
	Yeah, and the fact that what some people have missed, but Dan Bongino, who spent over 10 years in the Secret Service, hasn't, this individual, unlike Cheadle, this new director, was responsible for operations as deputy, so if the buck stops anywhere, it stops with him.
	He just happened to be the next in line to take over the agency, so the culpability Steps stops with Ron Rowe as well.
	All right.
	Let's talk about the campaign We have a new nominee who magically got to the delegates of the current incumbent Strangely, he's no well, it's not strange.
	He's no fan of Donald Trump That's for sure former deputy chief of staff how he still makes hay out of that title Karl Rove said something Quite remarkable on Fox with regards to President Trump and the current vice president cut nine Karl Rove Trump, he has difficulties too.
	He's got to frame Harris.
	He's got to find the right message to go after her, because as Lucas said, we've got 101 days as of today, and he's got to get back in control of the dialogue.
	He is clearly in a subordinate role here.
	He feels uncomfortable with it, I suspect, and he likes being the guy who's setting the tempo of the campaign, and that's not happening.
	President Trump is in a subordinate position to Kamala Harris and has to take back the narrative.
	What do you make of that, Lord Black?
	And also this strange angle of attack the Democrats have unleashed this week, which is that J.D.
	Vance is quote-unquote weird.
	In the case of Karl Rove, he's a very able man and a very nice man.
	But he's a Bush Republican, and he's never liked Trump politically.
	Wouldn't be a personal animosity at all, I'm sure.
	but he's never liked him politically didn't like what he said about
	george w bush uh... in particular uh... or the bush is generally
	and at every stage of the advance of trump politically carl rove has had to step back because he is predicted at
	every stage that it wouldn't work and then that uh... and you know the
	trump wouldn't be successful not malicious way not enough
	dishonest way but that's his bias and and i think that's what we're
	dealing with and and uh... and yet when
	trump wins he's always very gracious and i'm sure very sincere about it
	he's not a bad man but his you know his heart is where it is
	politically speaking now on the uh...
	on the business about that's been weird uh... i that's the adjective of the week uh... over over
	the business of His advocacy on behalf of children and on the, essentially, the desirability of having a higher birthrate.
	That's not weird.
	It's a little odd.
	It's something to be raised in a presidential campaign, but there's nothing weird about that opinion.
	But that's just where they're hanging their hat at the moment.
	And I noted that Schumer tried to extend the weirdness to Trump.
	It's a duo of weird people, you see.
	You know, I don't... I think it's just something no one will remember a week from now.
	Now, with that said, I think Vance has got to be a little careful on some of his positions.
	He's got to watch this thing that he doesn't care who governs Ukraine.
	Yes.
	He's got to be careful about trying to repeal CAP correctly.
	It's not going to happen, and the right to work is... You know, that's a right too, like all the other rights.
	that we hold dear.
	And I think he's got to just make sure he gets in step with his chief on all of these
	key issues.
	But that's easy to do and it should be fine, but he's got to do it.
	And what do you think of this idea that Kamala Harris is going to maintain this honeymoon
	period and is a serious threat?
	Can she truly separate herself from the last three and a half years?
	No.
	I have to say I think they've made a cleaner Switch than I would have thought possible, but wearing my Republican hat, thank heavens it's her, not only because she does have such a terminal case of foot-in-mouth disease, but because, and not only because she has been, you know, she's left so much hanging out in her past politically with the outrageous positions she's taken, but precisely the reason you mentioned.
	She's up to her eyeballs more than anybody else except Biden himself, In the failures of this administration and she's not gonna wiggle out of them.
	brought in instead one of the governors or something it would have been right they could distance themselves fully yeah perfectly put terminal case of foot in mouth uh the author most recently of the compendium the the first volume the political and strategic history of the world volume one and co-host of the podcast scholars in sense of victor davis hansen and our friend bill bennett please follow lord conrad black on twitter at Conrad and Black. And whilst you're there, make sure you
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	He, uh, he was a very good friend of mine.
	The big success will be in a debate, don't you think, if he behaves himself?
	I'm sorry, the big what?
	The success for the President would be on the debate stage with Kamala if she doesn't have any teleprompters.
	Yeah, I think he'll be fine.
	And by the way, I'm sure you do this too, but I looked at all the polls this morning, and the Democrats can celebrate all they want, but if the election were held today, Trump would win safely enough.
	I mean, I agree it looks like the free fall that was going on under Biden may have stopped, and this may That would be great convenience down the ballot for a lot of people, but I don't think Kamala Harris is any savior of that party.
	They're going to go to a woodshed in November, and it's not going to be any fun.
	It may be a little lighter with her than it would have been with him, but on the other hand, he has officially the credibility of having been the president.
	He was elected vice president.
	He was elected senator many times.
	I mean, this woman has a very thin electoral record.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, we can't take anything for granted.
	99 days to go.
	No, no, no.
	It's a fight.
	And then she is off to a good start, I'll give her that, but it's hardly a test.
	I mean, she's just read a teleprompter a couple of times, that's all.
	Correct, correct, correct.
	Good.
	Well, tell me how you fare with Substack.
	Okay, thanks very much, Sebastian.
	Thanks, Conrad.
	Bye-bye.
	I got a couple more ones if you want them.
	Let me hear them.
	The cruise one, he asked them if it was political, not denying security requests.
	Okay, here's the cruise one.
	So let me tell you what I believe.
	I believe that the Secret Service leadership made a political decision to deny these requests.
	And I think the Biden administration has been suffused with partisan politics.
	Did the same person who denied the request for additional security to President Trump also repeatedly deny the request for security to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., whose father was murdered by an assassin and whose uncle was murdered by an assassin?
	Did the same person make that decision?
	Senator, what I will tell you is that Secret Service agents are not political.
	Okay, you're not answering my question, but you know what?
	Leadership appointed by the President is political.
	I have a simple question, yes or no.
	Did the same person deny the Trump request that also denied the RFK request?
	That's a yes or no question.
	Senator, that is not a yes or no question.
	One, there is a process for a candidate nominee to receive protection.
	Does the buck stop anywhere?
	Does the buck stop anywhere?
	That is a bicameral, bipartisan process.
	It's a bicameral, bipartisan process?
	You are not a congress, you don't have a cameral.
	Mr. Kennedy submitted a request that was referred over to the CPAC.
	Okay, you're refusing to answer the question.
	And then here is Hawley, real quick.
	But over the last two years, President Trump's team repeatedly asked for these additional resources, and you personally were involved in denying them.
	Is that true?
	Senator, as I stated earlier, that is not true.
	So you never denied any resources to former President Trump's team?
	No, not me, no sir.
	And you weren't involved in any of that?
	You were never involved in the decision-making.
	Alright, comment with the other one.
	No sir I was not.
	Cruz, alrighty.
	Yeah, and I'm sending you an image.
	Thanks.
	So let me tell you what I believe.
	I believe that the Secret Service leadership made a political decision to deny these requests.
	And I think the Biden administration has been suffused with partisan politics.
	Did the same person who denied the request for additional security to President Trump also repeatedly deny the request for security to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., whose father was murdered by an assassin and whose uncle was murdered by an assassin?
	Did the same person make that decision?
	Senator, what I will tell you is that Secret Service agents are not political.
	Okay, you're not answering my question, but you know what?
	Leadership appointed by the President is political.
	I have a simple question, yes or no.
	Did the same person deny the Trump request that also denied the RFK request?
	That's a yes or no question.
	Senator, that is not a yes or no question.
	One, there is a process for a candidate nominee to receive protection.
	Does the buck stop anywhere?
	Does the buck stop anywhere?
	That is a bicameral, bipartisan process.
	It's a bicameral, bipartisan process?
	What camera?
	You are not a congress.
	You don't have a camera.
	Mr. Kennedy submitted a request that was referred over to the CPAC.
	Okay, you're refusing to answer the question.
	Wow, that's what's happening on Capitol Hill while you're listening to the show.
	We're going to take your calls in a moment, but this is breaking from Susan Crabtree at the outlet Real Clear Politics.
	It is an email sent by a Secret Service counter-sniper to the entire uniformed division of the Secret Service.
	So these aren't the the plainclothes personal protection detail but the
	individuals who wear uniforms like the cat team, the counter assault team and the snipers. I'll just
	read a part of it because it's important.
	Thank you for the backing and support. I am not stopping until five high-level supervisors,
	one down, I presume that means Cheadle, are either fired or removed from their current positions.
	This agency, the Secret Service, needs to change.
	If not now, when?
	The next assassination attempt in 30 days?
	Because we all should expect another attempt to happen before November.
	We've exposed our inability to protect our leaders due to our leadership.
	The technicians who worked on July 13th in Butler did their jobs with their hands tied.
	Secret Service supervisors knew better and the foot soldiers working made the best of a bad situation that resulted in a civilian death and a near miss of the protectee and our technician shooting and killing the suspect.
	I will leave the rest of that to be read.
	It is on my Twitter feed.
	I will be posting it on Instagram and Facebook.
	But I can assure you that the hearing on Capitol Hill will not be the end of this story.
	Let's go to Franklin in California, line 4.
	Dr. Gorka, I have an important, if not so hypothetical question.
	If Donald Trump had lost his life on July 13th, Would Joe Biden have been pulled from the campaign?
	Look, alternate histories, hypotheticals like that, I don't know what the utility of asking the question is.
	If you ask me, I doubt he would be pulled from the campaign.
	What do you think, Franklin?
	Exactly.
	And that gives you a clear insight into the Democrat strategy.
	Okay.
	Explain.
	Trump is alive.
	Joe must go.
	Okay?
	If Donald Trump had lost his life, we can still go with Joe Biden.
	No problem.
	What are you saying?
	What are you inferring?
	What are you imputing, Franklin?
	Okay.
	I listened carefully to the testimony of former Director Cheevil.
	Her obstructive testimony was not to protect herself.
	She was trying to protect her superiors.
	Who are her superiors?
	Three words.
	Mayorkas.
	Okay?
	And one of them... Her other superior rhymes with die then.
	So okay, let's cut to this chase.
	Stop pussyfooting around.
	What are you saying, Franklin?
	I'm saying that all the Secret Service is trying to portray now is plausible Incompetence.
	What are you saying?
	Are you saying it was a plot to kill the president?
	Their inattention to detail and antagonism to Donald Trump caused them to drop this note, drop that, drop that.
	Okay, if he dies, what's the big deal?
	Yeah, you're kind of walking a tightrope there.
	Because there's a very fine line between an intent to kill and dereliction of duty.
	I believe the Secret Service is utterly and completely incompetent.
	How do I know that?
	Look at the photographs of the five-foot-two overweight women who don't know how to holster their weapons and are hiding behind their male colleagues.
	In Butler, Pennsylvania.
	So rank incompetence.
	But that does not excuse anyone for dereliction of duty.
	And those who wouldn't mind if President Trump were, in fact, killed.
	Thank you, Franklin.
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	Well, no, I'm not going to tell you.
	No, why is the new Secret Service Director so angry?
	Uh huh.
	Alright, do we have any B-roll of Venezuela?
	I got some, give me a little bit.
	Okay.
	Hello?
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	Is there any doubt in your mind or in the collective mind of the FBI that President Trump was shot in the ear by a bullet fired by the assassin crooks?
	Senator, there is absolutely no doubt in the FBI's mind whether former President Trump was hit with the With a bullet and wounded in the ear.
	No doubt.
	There never has been.
	Okay.
	I've been part of this investigation since the very beginning and that has never been raised.
	You're sure?
	Yes.
	Oh, well that's strange, because your boss, the director of the FBI, said something different last week.
	That's Paul Abate, the deputy director of the FBI.
	Also not a good guy, but I guess the charade is starting to collapse.
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	I don't know why, because she is amazing, and it has nothing to do with the fact that she was my deputy at Breitbart.com.
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	Now she's got an even more highfaluting title, Frances Martel of Breitbart.com.
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	Welcome back to America First.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	It's so exciting to be back.
	Now, you are the perfect person to talk to because of your expertise, not just in general, but because of your expertise in the actual hemisphere with regards to what happened in Venezuela over the last couple of days with the election, with the events on the street of the people of Venezuela saying no
	we do not want to have our election stolen from us. Last night there was
	footage of security forces handing over their weapons to the citizens of that
	beleaguered state.
	Elon Musk just earlier today tweeted out a video and I'll just I'll read the
	it's the contents of the video.
	This is from Visigrad24, and Musk reposted it.
	Venezuelan army captains Javier and Juan Carlos Nieto Quintero send a message to all Venezuelan soldiers.
	Quote, it's time to make the right decisions at a historic moment.
	It's evident we have a new president-elect.
	Time for the army to intervene.
	Francis, these are historic events that we are witnessing, are they not?
	Yes, they're historic, but they are not unprecedented.
	And so that is what develops so much tension here is that this is probably the third or fourth round of sham presidential election followed by popular uprising, followed by some lower level soldiers defecting.
	And they have all ended in exactly the same way, which is the protests fizzle out as the dissidents either go into exile, are killed or disappeared.
	The soldiers themselves are disappeared.
	And then the elite Okay, so that's massively important that this is not something unique and new.
	Are you therefore saying that this will fizzle out or be suppressed as those prior similar events were?
	No, I am not here to take away anybody's optimism.
	I'm just providing context.
	You know, you keep knocking on that door, eventually it's going to fall, right?
	I don't know if this is the time, but I'm also not here to say 100% it won't fizzle out.
	I'm just saying that because that regime has been so ossified in its position and because it has so much oil, it has so many resources, it is very, very difficult to topple without having a leak within Maduro's inner circle turn on him.
	What have you heard or what are you seeing in terms of reportage?
	We had the great Josef Humide in studio yesterday.
	We're hearing reports that it's actually utterly egregious.
	We're talking about a putative win of 70 to 30 and Maduro just, you know, saying, oh no, no, no, we won.
	Is it really that bad?
	Is it such an egregious theft of the election?
	It is absolutely that bad.
	And it has been that bad.
	It was that bad in 2013.
	It was that bad in 2018.
	So again, not something we haven't seen before.
	I think the big difference between this election and the last election in 2018 is that 2018 had record low turnout.
	Venezuelans simply had no faith in that and were told essentially boycotted.
	This time, the opposition urged people to go out and vote.
	The opposition got a lot of pressure from the Biden administration to get people out there to vote and to treat it like a real election.
	And so now we have evidence, alleged evidence, from the opposition that they have the voting ballots, they have the data, and it shows high turnout and overwhelming victory against Maduro.
	Wow, wow.
	Can you give us a snapshot?
	You said, I mean, super wealthy.
	We've made them more wealthy under Biden because we're buying Venezuelan oil.
	They also have partners, bad guys, supporting them.
	For example, China, Iran and Russia.
	How How stable, or how strong, you use this word ossified, how embedded is Maduro?
	Because we see this paradoxical situation often, that the more dictatorial a regime becomes, in fact it becomes more fragile, like we saw with Ceausescu in Romania.
	What's your measure?
	Are these people locked in, or are they potentially fragile?
	Well, I think most of the superficial evidence is that they are locked in.
	And then the big evidence here is that first they've got the oil, but they're also a narco state.
	They also have deep ties to Hezbollah, to the FARC.
	You know, we know that they have the Cartel of the Suns that makes a lot of money selling cocaine throughout the Western Hemisphere.
	So they have a lot of money coming in, and they also don't have a unified opposition with significant leadership.
	We have Maria Corina Machado as the most charismatic and organized leader the opposition has ever had.
	But before her, it was all a bunch of socialism lite against Maduro.
	And the big difference I see here, too, is that now we're seeing some cracks in the inner circle.
	For example, Maduro purged his oil minister, Tariq al-Islami, who was his top link to Hezbollah.
	And we're still not sure why exactly he did that, but he paraded the guy in handcuffs on national television.
	And that was one of the four most powerful people in Venezuela.
	So that is the sliver of hope that we're kind of clinging to, that they might not be as strong as they look.
	Arresting the leader of the opposition, raiding their home.
	I think we've seen that before.
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	you You
	You You
	You Thank you.
	Any last cuts you want to use here?
	Uh, we should, we should.
	There's still a few more.
	We didn't use the second Hawley cut.
	What's the second one about?
	Um, Jeff, the short one, it's talking about DEI or, hang on.
	No, it's just about, he won't say who denied the request or whatever, but he says it's not him, but he doesn't say that.
	You didn't, you didn't, you didn't, uh, we haven't used it?
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	you you
	this event but over the last two years that president Trump's president Trump's
	team repeatedly asked for these additional resources and you personally
	were involved in denying them is that true? Senator as I stated earlier that is
	not true. So you never denied any resources to former president Trump's
	team? No not me no sir. And you weren't and you weren't involved in any of that?
	You were never involved in the decision-making? No sir I was not. Jeff do
	you believe him? Of course not.
	Um...
	You need to follow Mike Davis, guys.
	Mike Davis has some dirt on that individual, the acting head of the Secret Service, and his ties to Joe Biden.
	Mike Davis brings the receipts.
	You need to follow him.
	MrDDMIA on Twitter.
	That's MrDDMIA on Twitter.
	And with regards to that breaking news about that sniper saying there will be another attempt on President Trump's life, why is that not hard to believe?
	Because what is the phrase they used?
	We need to turn down the temperature.
	We do.
	Conservatives do.
	But they don't.
	This was Joe Biden yesterday in Texas encouraging, well, let's just listen.
	Cut to him.
	There's an extreme movement and agenda called Project 2025.
	Well, by the way, they're serious, man.
	They're planning another onslaught attacking civil rights in America.
	For example, Project 2025 calls aggressively attacking diversity, equity and inclusion across all aspects of American life.
	This extreme MAGA movement He even proposed to end birthrate citizenship.
	That's how far they've come.
	End birthrate citizenship.
	Jeff, I know, you know, I speak a different kind of English, but calling Americans, millions of Americans, extremists, is that, is that, does that turn down the temperature?
	No, and especially when you've been doing this for years now.
	It's over and over again.
	It's not a one-off line.
	And I know the guys.
	We're going to get them back.
	The President of Heritage, our buddies, Jim Carrafano, Mike Howell.
	Project 2025, Eric, it's about making government smaller.
	Making government smaller, that impinges upon your liberty, right?
	The liberty to be under bureaucratic dictatorship, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Right, right.
	These people will lie to your face and they will engender another attack.
	Why?
	Because they are fine with violence.
	Kamala Harris raised bail money for BLM arsonists and they dehumanize.
	At least 73 million Americans by calling them extremists.
	Where will it all end?
	Let's discuss next with a very sagacious political analyst.
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	Just a couple of miles from the studio where we are sitting, in the nation's capital, the capital of what is ostensibly the most beautiful, greatest nation on God's green earth.
	The desecration of a landmark, Union Station, the reproduction of the Liberty Bell, the burning of the Stars and Stripes, which wasn't the property of the rioters, but they didn't care.
	Why?
	Why did that occur?
	Not in Gaza or the West Bank?
	Because the duly elected Prime Minister of Israel had been invited by both parties to address Congress?
	How did this happen here?
	And why is it happening across the Western world, including in London?
	Let's talk to a man who's written a superb article on the phenomena.
	He called it the fascist demonstration in Washington, D.C.
	A man who's tough to get on the show but every time he's on it is an absolute delight.
	From Spiked Online, Brendan O'Neill.
	Hey Seb, how you doing?
	I'm a little bit miffed, let's just put it lightly.
	I'm a little bit miffed because I know that plaza outside Union Station.
	Union Station inside is this beautiful neo-gothic building.
	They actually hold Balls and galas inside the station.
	It's so beautiful.
	And then to see what happened recently, let's put up the list of your articles.
	I'm going to do things a little bit differently here.
	You've done so many great pieces recently as the, you're not just the political writer, you are the chief political writer for Spiked Online.
	So I'm just going to go through these articles one by one and you'll illuminate us as to what's happening On your side of the pond and the commonalities with what is happening here in America.
	So let's start with a fascist rally in Washington, D.C.
	What did those images speak to you of, Brendan?
	I thought they were so shocking.
	And you're absolutely right about Union Station.
	I've been there many times.
	It is absolutely beautiful.
	And American train stations are so much better than British train stations.
	I love Britain, but our train stations are not in a very good condition.
	Except St Pancreas.
	I think St Pancreas is the coolest station in the UK.
	But yeah, we have this neoclassical architecture here that is a sight to behold.
	It's amazing.
	The train stations there are like cathedrals.
	They're absolutely wonderful.
	So to see this one being desecrated in the way that it was, it was horrendous.
	And you know, I think a lot of the so-called pro-Palestine demonstrations that we've seen across the West since the 7th of October, a lot of them have had anti-Semitic undertones, sometimes anti-Semitic overtones.
	A lot of them have been very Israelophobic, and Israelophobia often crosses the line into outright anti-Semitism.
	But this one in Washington D.C.
	was the worst yet by a long shot.
	We saw people carrying a Jew head.
	They had an effigy of Benjamin Netanyahu, which had every single anti-Jewish trope from history.
	This effigy had horns.
	It had a big nose.
	It had blood dripping from its mouth.
	This was a caricature of the Jew, and it was being carried through the capital of America in 2024.
	Outside Union Station, they burned another effigy of Benjamin Netanyahu.
	Some of the graffiti that we saw was Israelophobic and anti-Semitic.
	They called for the abolishing of Israel.
	They praised Hamas.
	There were people waving the Hamas flag and chanting Allah Akbar.
	This was a sickening sight.
	Jewish people in America and across the Western world will have been horrified by it, and it's time more people called this stuff out.
	So I'm just going to suggest something to you, Brendan.
	I was in Congress actually walking into the screening of the 47-minute unedited version of what happened on October the 7th.
	Where, you know, the body cams, the CCTV camera footage of what Hamas did to those innocent women and children.
	And I just bumped into, he wasn't there for that, he was there to testify, our administration, the Trump administration's former, the exact title is Envoy to Combat Anti-Semitism.
	And this gentleman said to me, Elan is his name, Elan Carr.
	He said, Seb, from now on, let's just stop calling it antisemitism, because that in and of itself is politically correct.
	It's a kind of whitewashing.
	It's a kind of antiseptic phrase.
	From now on, let's call it Jew hatred.
	And I think that is a very powerful terminology that we should use.
	Brendan, you are a very astute observer of things, cultural and political.
	Can you help us unpack this Reverse bizarro world that we are in, that people like myself, my former boss, conservatives in general, have been called literal Nazis and fascists for eight years, despite the Trump administration being the most philo-semitic since 1948, moving the embassy, recognizing Jerusalem the first president to go to the Wailing Wall as president,
	And then we have the people who are calling us Nazis and fascists.
	As you said, raising giant effigies of a Jewish head of state portrayed as the devil.
	When did that switch occur?
	Has it always been there?
	And this idea that the real fascists are the ones who are throwing the smear onto others.
	Have you seen the evolution?
	Was there a moment in time where things just went mental?
	I think it's been there a long time, but I think the switch became very clear after the 7th of October.
	And I think what we can see now very clearly is that the so-called anti-fascists are really the fascists.
	There is no other way to say it.
	And I'm the kind of person who doesn't like to use the word fascism or Nazi unless it's really necessary and appropriate.
	And I think it is appropriate here.
	And you know, we have a left in the United States and also in the UK, who have this tendency to see fascism everywhere, even where it clearly doesn't exist.
	So when we voted for Brexit, all the newspapers, all the liberal newspapers were full of warnings about the return of the 1930s and the return of Nazi sentiments across Europe, etc, etc.
	As you say, the same things were said about Trump and the Trump administration, which came to power in the same year that we voted for Brexit, 2016, 2017.
	The same things were said.
	This is, he's Hitler 2.0.
	He's literally Hitler.
	This is Nazism returned.
	All of this was said by a left.
	Which, when 7th of October happened, the worst, most violent pogrom against the Jews since the Nazi era, they either looked the other way or they openly celebrated it.
	And now we've seen them on the streets of Washington and New York and London and Berlin and Paris over the past nine months celebrating the worst act of violence against the Jews since the Holocaust.
	Saying extraordinarily prejudiced things about Jewish people, marching shoulder to shoulder with Islamist activists who want further pogroms against the Jewish state.
	So it is very clear to me that the people who for the past few years call themselves Antifa are actually just far.
	They're fascists.
	They are, they're the real extreme right and their hatred for Jews has now become clear to anyone who's honest with himself.
	Will it say that these people have a special hatred for the Jewish people?
	Yeah, that's great.
	Antifa are just far.
	Alex, I want to play the clip from Fox last week.
	So neither of us are psychiatrists, but I have to get your reaction to this because this video clip went absolutely viral.
	So this was in D.C.
	during Benjamin Netanyahu's address to Congress.
	Are you saying you would support Hamas?
	Are you saying you support genocide?
	What does Hamas have to do with 20,000 babies and children massacred and butchered?
	Women and families.
	400 universities flattened.
	Schools flattened.
	Hospitals flattened.
	Dozens of hospital workers murdered.
	Do you think that has anything to do with Hamas or humanity?
	It's human rights.
	For human rights.
	Not Hamas.
	What about the hostages?
	What do you say about the hostages that have been held in captivity?
	On October 7th, most of those people were killed by Israeli forces using the Hannibal Directive.
	Hello, wake up!
	All right, so that's obviously not been proven to be the case, but the protesters are getting very passionate out here.
	Thank you, ma'am.
	So, Brendan, 400 universities have been flattened in Gaza.
	I don't think America has 400 universities.
	And then I know she's screeching like a harridan, but she actually says at the end, most of the people killed on October the 7th were killed by the Israeli forces.
	How does this happen?
	I mean, that's not, you know, Islamabad.
	That's not Kabul.
	How did this happen inside our societies, Brendan?
	You know, when people say that, when they say most of the deaths on 7th of October were down to the IDF, let's be clear about what that is.
	That is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.
	And we have seen the rising of a new form of Holocaust denial, and we've seen it in real time.
	We've seen it emerge very, very quickly, the atrocity denialism around the 7th of October, where leftists in the West will say either that it was all down to the IDF, Or that the deaths have been exaggerated, there were no rapes, Hamas didn't really kill that many people.
	We've seen a new form of Holocaust denialism develop within the space of months, whereas the original Holocaust denialism took some time, took many years to come to the fore.
	And it's the same conspiratorial imagination.
	The idea is that the Jews invent hardship, invent acts of violence, invent acts of persecution for political gain.
	It is the same anti-Semitic conspiratorial mindset that has taken grip, as you say, not only in parts of the Islamic East, where there has often been, for a long time, been a hostility towards the Jews, but also now within educated circles in the West itself.
	And that's what's really worrying, and that's why I think the post-7th of October moment in America and in Europe points to a crisis of our own civilization.
	It really has brought to the surface of society, like scum on water, all of the regressive trends in our society.
	The hatred for the West, the hatred for Israel, which is seen as an embodiment of Western values, the hostility to Jews because they're seen as being at the top of a hierarchy of privilege, Identity politics, wokeness, all of these things have really kicked into second gear since the 7th of October.
	And I think that event not only exposed Israel to extreme threats from Islamist terrorists, but it also exposed the moral rot within our own societies.
	And it's up to us to get a grip with that kind of stuff, I think.
	It is absolutely correct.
	The crisis of our civilization, all the scum, has risen to the surface in large part thanks to social media.
	We're talking to Brendan O'Neill, Chief Political Writer for Spiked Online, spiked-online.com.
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	If you're going to call my former boss and the leader of the opposition literally a neo-nazi for eight years and put his face on magazine covers looking like Hitler, sooner or later somebody will take action.
	As I wrote in Breitbart the day after, The assassin who had to happen.
	That's what we witnessed in Butler, Pennsylvania.
	How did we get here?
	And has anybody...
	Apologized?
	I'm going through the list of recent articles from our friend Brendan O'Neill.
	One of the ones you've written in the last couple of days, Brendan, is the woke media's grotesque gloating over the shooting of Trump.
	I would like to think, and call me naive, Brendan, if you really screw up badly in the public domain, You kind of have to apologize, but what we've witnessed is a doubling down, have we not?
	When you hear, you know, the likes of Martha Raddatz, George Stephanopoulos on cable television say, yes, he was shot, but it was because of his rhetoric.
	This will never end.
	It will never end.
	And, you know, these are the kind of people who are supposed to be against victim blaming, as they refer to it, whereas apparently the great crime in the woke era is to blame the victim for his or her own persecution or violence visited on them.
	And that's exactly what they've been doing after the Trump shooting.
	They've been blaming Trump for his own shooting.
	They've been saying that he's the person who upped the ante in American politics.
	He's the person who supposedly introduced violent rhetoric, and so it's all down to
	him.
	It's disgusting, actually, to say that about a man who escaped death by a mere inch is
	really repulsive.
	And you do wonder what they would say if he had died.
	Would they have said the same thing?
	You know, these people seem to have no moral compass whatsoever.
	The truth of the matter is, as you've just hinted to there, is that if anyone's rhetoric contributed to this kind of violence, it was the rhetoric of the anti-Trump left.
	It was the rhetoric of the woke left and the liberal media, which for the past eight years hasn't only been criticizing Trump, and I am I am a free speech absolutist.
	I think you should be able to criticise politicians as forcefully and strongly as you want.
	But they haven't only been criticising him, they've been calling him The worst person since Hitler, a Nazi threat to the United States, to the entire health of the American Republic.
	They've been depicting his voters as brainwashed, you know, the idiots of demagoguery who are just following their leader and leading the American Republic to certain doom.
	And the same discussion has been had about Trump in Europe as well, that he is the new Hitler.
	When you demonize someone like that, when you depict a politician not only as wrong or someone you disagree with or whatever else it might be, but you actually say that they are a threat to the existence of the entire United States, then you are going to set off alarm bells in the heads of crazy people.
	So I do think there's a relationship between the relentless, feverish demonization of Trump and the events we saw in Pennsylvania.
	But it's not just the mentally unstable, as my former Salem colleague Larry Elder said.
	If the mainstream media pushes this idea that a certain individual is the rebirth of Hitler, is a threat to democracy, I put it to you, Brendan, that if you or I were Germans living in Germany in the 1930s and somebody could have proved to us this guy is going to have death camps I'm a Catholic, right?
	He's going to put Catholics in death camps, and he's going to cause the death of 66 million people in a global war.
	I hope I would have the backbone to use violence against that little Austrian corporal before he got to be Chancellor.
	So, Brendan, it's not just about the crazies.
	If you've been told for eight years he's Hitler, you're just gonna believe it.
	So, as a freedom of speech absolutist, What is the right response to this lunacy from people who are doubling and tripling and quadrupling down?
	Yeah, you're right.
	It's not just the crazies.
	This has been a mainstream phenomenon for eight years.
	They have been calling Trump the new Hitler for a long time.
	And let's not forget that the Trump opposition, including much of the mainstream media and even sections of the Democratic Party, refer to themselves as the resistance.
	Yeah.
	So they even borrow the language of the movements in Europe in the 1930s and 40s, which resisted Nazi rule or resisted fascist rule.
	So they named themselves after the resistance.
	They damned Trump as a Hitler-like figure.
	And you're right, you know, we know from history, we know from our history books that the only way to deal with a literal Hitler or literal Nazis is to fight a war against them, is to, let's be blunt, try to kill them, to try to stop them so that they cannot inflict their inhuman ideology across Europe or across the world.
	So if some people look at the discussion of Trump and think to themselves, well, if he's Hitler, then America is going to be headed towards death camps, is going to be headed towards concentration camps.
	And if they think that and decide to take action, that is actually not that surprising.
	So I do think we have to try to withdraw the hysteria from some of the rhetoric.
	But this is the tough bit.
	At the same time, we have to stand up for freedom of speech, but relentlessly call out the deranged Yeah, because they're not going to correct themselves, that's for sure.
	Chief Political Writer for Spiked Online.
	It's a superb website, spiked-online.com.
	You're not on Elon Musk's platform, but you are on Instagram.
	What's your Instagram?
	Oh yes, it's burntoakboy, right?
	That's it.
	Burnt Oak Boy.
	Because I come from a place called Burnt Oak in London that no one's ever heard of.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Let's put that up there in the Chiron IG, Instagram.
	Burnt Oak Boy.
	We're going through his great analyses over the last few weeks.
	And don't forget this new cycle.
	He thought it was bad in the last 10 days.
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	We're back with Brendan O'Neill of Spiked Online and he's written a piece about what happened recently on the UK.
	Quite a tectonic disruption in politics.
	Let's listen to the man who profited the most from it, a friend of this show, a friend of my former boss, the one and only Nigel Farage.
	I call Nigel Farage to make his maiden speech.
	Mr Deputy Speaker, thank you very much indeed.
	I believe it's customary in a maiden speech to pay tribute to your predecessor, which I'm very happy to do.
	Giles Watling, a very decent, nice, honourable man, former actor, wears his Garrick club tie, nothing even vaguely conservative about him, but a jolly nice chap, and it was a clean fought campaign.
	That was on his eighth attempt to get into the Palace of Westminster, he made it.
	The man who I think we can say is responsible for Brexit, the biggest vote in American history, I think 17.3 million Brits of all, all stripes, saying we've had it with the socialist centralisation of the EU and we want to leave.
	In your recent piece, you give us the very interesting scintillating title, The True Story.
	of this election.
	Populism is here to stay.
	So the conservative old school were given a complete spanking.
	And then Nigel comes from nowhere in a couple of weeks with his buddies.
	What is the true story?
	What does it reflect in terms of and I know populism has become this pejorative phrase for the mainstream.
	But this is for me the recrudescence is the revivification of politics that represents the people.
	So give us the real story, Brandon.
	Yeah, it was a fascinating election in some ways.
	We all knew that Labour was going to win.
	That had been predicted for a long time.
	And they got a huge majority.
	So Labour now rules this country with an iron fist, sadly.
	But if you dig away at their majority, if you dig away at their vote, It's quite a broad landslide that they won, but it's very shallow.
	They won it on a very small percentage.
	They got around 20% of British adults voted for them.
	So this is a government that doesn't have a great deal of legitimacy.
	It's not supported by the vast majority of people in this country, but they have the most seats in Parliament, so they are now in charge.
	And also a low turnout, right, in general?
	Very low turnout.
	I think it was the lowest turnout in 100 years.
	So not much enthusiasm for the Labour government.
	That's very plain to see.
	But there was a lot of enthusiasm for Nigel Farage's party reform.
	So Nigel Farage only agreed to become the leader of reform a few weeks before the election.
	He said, right, I'm going to stand.
	He initially said that he was going to go to America to work with his friend Donald.
	But he's decided to stay and lead the party and stand to be an MP.
	And as a consequence of that, reform got around 14% of the vote.
	That is huge for a fairly new party, a party that people didn't have high expectations of.
	It got millions of votes, largely from disgruntled working class voters who want change in this country.
	Because of our weird electoral system, that 14% of the vote only translated into five seats in the Commons, and that's a weird glitch that we have.
	But this is a party that is now soaring, which I think will do even better in future elections.
	And it's really sent a message to the two-party system in this country.
	Which is that you can't take your rule for granted anymore.
	It's not a given that the Tories and Labour will be running this country for the next hundred years like they have for the previous hundred years.
	Nigel Farage has really sent that message to them and I hope someone in America does that.
	I mean Trump is kind of doing it, even though he's officially in the Republicans, but he's sending a message that politics has to change and we will bring change about.
	Yeah, and as someone who grew up in the UK under Margaret Thatcher, the Conservative Party today has nothing to do with the Tory Party of the 1970s or 80s.
	And maybe Nigel will be the new Conservative Party in terms of family values, cultural values, national security, and maybe just crazy ideas like having a border.
	We're talking to Brendan O'Neill, Chief Political Writer for Spiked Online, spiked-online.com.
	Why are you willing to make this an issue?
	Do you think?
	Well, it happened to one of my older boys, where I was essentially tricked into signing documents for one of my older boys, Xavier, Uh, this is before I had really any understanding of what was going on.
	And then we had COVID going on.
	And so there was a lot of confusion.
	Um, and, um, you know, I was told, oh, you know, Xavier might commit suicide.
	That was, that was a lie right from the outset.
	Fascinating interview with Elon Musk and Jordan Peterson talking about how he was tricked and how he, quote, lost a child to the woke mind virus.
	We'll talk about it momentarily with our guest who's written a piece on it, but Brendan!
	You have a piece that I want to link two pieces together.
	You've got Elon Musk has revealed the pain of losing a child to the trans cult and I'm so glad you used that word cult because if you talk to the people who've suffered from within it and who have de-transitioned like the great Chloe Coles, they do call it a cult.
	And then I want to link it to another piece, the low-key lunacy of Britain's new ruling class.
	Which isn't just an Anglo, well let's say it is an Anglo but not just a British phenomena.
	There's this lunacy, this denial of reality that goes to Musk's interview that seems to permeate our political elite.
	So talk to us about the significance first of the richest man in the world and what he just said in that interview with Jordan Peterson.
	I thought it was very significant.
	And in some ways, Elon Musk broke the last woke taboo, which is you're not supposed to be the parent of a trans child who feels grief for the loss of your child.
	And he speaks openly about losing his male child, who has now become supposedly female, although I don't think that actually happens.
	But he said he feels a sense of loss.
	He feels almost that his son is dead.
	And it was so painful to watch it.
	And I know other people who've been through the exact same experience who don't have a platform like Elon Musk does and don't really have a way to speak out.
	But there are many parents out there who are suffering in the same way.
	You know, the dads who pack their daughters off to university and then they come home after their first term.
	growing mustaches with their breasts bound and their names changed to Gary or something.
	This is happening to a lot of people and parents are incredibly upset about it.
	They're losing their children to a literal cult. And it's worse even than the old style
	religious cults because at least they only meddled with your brain and you could eventually run away.
	This cult ruins your body.
	It puts kids on drugs that alter their hormonal development.
	It then puts them on a conveyor belt towards cross-sex hormones and bodily mutilation.
	This is a cult that doesn't only brainwash young people, but mutilates them, cuts their breasts off,
	cuts off their genitalia, turns them into strange creatures
	that are neither male nor female.
	This is a punishment.
	And who are sterilized.
	Exactly.
	And a lot of these, and Musk has also hinted at this fact too, a lot of these kids are kids who have grown up to be gay men or lesbian women.
	A lot of them are also autistic.
	So we have a situation where the supposedly progressive thing to do now is to carry out a vast practice of medical experimentation on young gay people and on autistic kids.
	Somehow, it's come to be seen as woke and good to medically experiment on children's bodies.
	And that's the kind of situation we now find ourselves in.
	And it's time we treated it with the seriousness that it deserves.
	Is the shutting down of the TAVIS stock, did that really happen?
	Or has it just melted into other transgender clinics in the UK?
	And how significant is the release of the CAS report?
	That basically said there is no health benefit, mental or physical, to transition surgery.
	These things are coming out of the UK.
	Does this give us hope, Brendan?
	Yes, I think some good things are happening in Britain.
	I don't think we've won the war, but we've certainly won some battles.
	And, you know, that is largely down to primarily women.
	Lots of women have spoken out against this issue, lots of men as well.
	But, you know, figures like J.K.
	Rowling and many others, too, have spoken out against this and had a lot of flack for doing so.
	But all of this opposition has had an impact, and it has managed to change things slowly but surely.
	We now have a new government.
	It's a weird situation with the new Labour government, because on the one hand, they're taking some positive steps.
	For example, they've banned the prescription of puberty blockers to teenagers.
	That's a really important development.
	And they are promising to enforce all the guidelines of the Cass Review.
	That's great.
	But also, it's a government that is led by people, and this relates to my lunacy article.
	It's a government led by people who don't really know what a woman is.
	Our new Culture Secretary, Lisa Nandy, just a few years ago, she said that male paedophiles who identify as women should be put in women's prisons.
	We have a new Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, who notoriously doesn't know what a woman is and can't answer that very simple question.
	So it's contradictory.
	On the one hand, Labour is taking some important steps to protect kids, and I applaud them for that.
	But at the same time, they are still beholden to the trans ideology and the woke ideology, so there's more work to be done.
	So, let me just drill down on that article about the lunacy of the elite in the UK and the lunacy of the elite here in the US.
	I think he's a mutual friend of ours, another very successful podcaster in the UK, who has become a star in the last year.
	He was invited to a very high-level political event, but a private dinner.
	And behind closed doors, I mean, we had this discussion about the economy, how nobody can buy a home, and how illegal immigrants are just coming in willy-nilly, and there's just a disconnect.
	And in this private discussion, he said, these individuals know that what they're doing is politically suicidal, but they still do it.
	What happened?
	Is it a courage function, or is it a cognitive, critical thinking function?
	Because here in America, we've let 20 million illegals into the country.
	I mean, you know, the average home costs $480,000.
	Kids cannot get a mortgage, and we've just allowed 20 million illegals into the country.
	This seems to be like a mental issue, doesn't it?
	It's crazy and I think about it all the time.
	I think to myself, do they really believe this stuff that they're pushing or are they just saying it because they think it will win them some brownie points amongst the cultural elites?
	And the The sadder part of me thinks they really do believe it.
	And I think what's happening is that we are ruled by a new form of establishment that is very, very cut off from ordinary people.
	It's a kind of establishment that doesn't rub shoulders with normal people very often,
	which comes from rarefied sections of society, which has people who have never worked in
	ordinary jobs.
	They've just skated right through to the top of the establishment through luck and through
	favor and through patronage.
	And as a consequence, they don't understand and even worse, they don't care about ordinary
	people's concerns.
	And that includes uncontrolled migration, fluid borders that no one seems in charge
	It also means a lack of housing, a lack of economic growth.
	And people are also concerned about the rise of the ideology of wokeness and what's being done to their kids and what's being taught to their kids.
	Any party that was to come forward and say, listen, we're going to get a handle on the border.
	We're going to build the houses that you need.
	We're going to create good, well-paid jobs and produce things in our own countries.
	And we're also going to demolish the ideology of wokeness.
	That party would clean up at the ballot box.
	That is what people are crying out for.
	But we have an establishment on both sides of the pond that It feels very distant and contemptuous towards ordinary people, and that's what worries me about Kamala Harris.
	I think she's the embodiment of this cut-off elite, someone who's risen to the highest echelons of political power through favor, patronage, and a DEI approach, who doesn't care or know what ordinary Americans are thinking.
	And if she were to get into the White House, I think it would be a disaster for America and for the Western world.
	Are you listening, America?
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	Listen to this person who's saying some very wise things.
	He's chief political writer for Spiked Online.
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	All right, I'm going to say something right now, Brendan, that I hope nobody's listening.
	Well, we have three and a half million listeners, but I've got to say it.
	I've got to say it, because from what I hear, it's the same in Whitehall, in Westminster, as it is here in D.C.
	Donald Trump is exactly what you said.
	He's the guy who says the woke stuff is lunacy, D.E.I., transgenderism, open borders, crazy, crazy, crazy.
	We need jobs for Americans.
	We need borders.
	We need security.
	And that would be incredibly successful.
	But it was in 2016.
	God willing it will be in November the 5th.
	But here's my problem as somebody who worked inside the White House.
	You can win an election, but then it's Yes Minister.
	It's Humphrey.
	It's all the bureaucrats.
	It's the blob who say, oh, presidents, they come and go.
	Who cares about the Prime Minister?
	I'm a senior civil servant.
	I get to decide the direction of the country.
	Do you share that analysis, and what do we do about it?
	I absolutely share that analysis.
	It's the blob.
	The blob is always there, regardless of who gets voted in by the people.
	And we've seen that in Britain.
	You know, the civil service here, which is the bureaucracy that runs the country, they had to be warned not to applaud too loudly for the new arrival of Labour ministers, because it would make it clear to the country that they are politically biased.
	Because all these civil servants are thrilled that the Tories have been kicked out of power and now their friends in the Labour Party, people who they generally agree with, have come on board and they can get things done.
	But over the past 14 years, this Whitehall blob constantly frustrated government policy and constantly tried to frustrate what elected ministers wanted to do in the country.
	So it's a real problem, and I'm sure there are similar state-related problems in America.
	The issue is that we have two kinds of government in the modern West.
	We have the elected government and we have the shadow government.
	And I don't mean that in a conspiratorial sense.
	I mean the shadow government in terms of the bureaucracy, the cultural elites, the media elites, the academic establishment, all these forces in society.
	I think they have the right to rule, that they have the right to set the agenda, and that it doesn't matter who the ordinary little people voted for, their right to rule should still stand.
	So this shadow government, these people who have outsized influence and unaccountable influence, they're the kind of people we really need to challenge and really need to take down if ordinary people's wishes are going to become front and center in American politics and British politics.
	It's as President Trump, my former boss, said in his inauguration speech in 2017.
	We are here to represent the forgotten men and women of America.
	And that's what all politics should be about.
	Doesn't matter what party you're from, it's to represent the people.
	God bless you, Brendan O'Neill.
	Keep doing what you do.
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	Read his articles at Spike-Online.com.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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