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	♪♪ The jury must be overwhelmed.
	I mean, to have all of these instructions just read to them without them getting a copy is going to be overwhelming for them.
	And also, it's crazy that the lawyers were not able to discuss the instructions in their closings yesterday.
	Typically, lawyers can go through the instructions and explain why they've met them or why the government hasn't met them, and they weren't able to do that yesterday, which I find bizarre.
	I think the lawyers should have been able to do that, because the jurors right now must be wondering, What is this all about?
	Jeff, was that like a deep fake?
	At the bottom of that clip on the video, it said CNN.
	Yeah, and he was the guy that came in to replace the guy from before, the day before, that said that on CNN, their legal analyst said that they didn't prove the case at all.
	What is going on?
	I don't think they can find any lawyers that actually want to agree with it.
	That's a criminal attorney, I think his name is David Marcus, and he's on CNN saying that he's never seen anything like it.
	He's never seen anything like it.
	That the judge, Judge Juan Merchan, a Biden campaign donor, whose daughter's made $93 million for the Democrats off her daddy's case, That his instructions, we've never seen anything like.
	Oh, welcome.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	Don't go anywhere for the next three hours.
	It's a good sign.
	The jury is still in deliberation.
	This is day two.
	They've got an hour and a half left, formally, of deliberation before the judge will theoretically excuse them for a second day.
	But the idea that he tells them yesterday that you don't have to agree, this is the first time in a criminal felony trial ever that you don't have to have agreement amongst the 12 jurors, that if four of you agree on one of the charges and four of you agree on One of the other charges, he'll take that as unanimous.
	That's a kangaroo court.
	That's Kafka.
	And then, then, you heard there on CNN, the judge tells President Trump's attorneys, you are not to give legal explanations to the jury before they deliberate on the finer points of the law.
	That there has to be actual intent to defraud.
	Yes.
	The charge is fraud of record keeping in a private, non-publicly traded company that has to be beyond a reasonable doubt proof of intent to defraud.
	Not just somebody saying he was defrauded.
	By the way, who was?
	Who was defrauded?
	Did Stormy Daniels get the money?
	Did Michael Cohen get paid?
	Oh, and did he defraud President Trump of another $40,000 to which he confessed on the stand less than two weeks ago?
	You're not allowed to instruct the jury?
	Let's go from CNN to Fox and to a woman who has served in that self-same position as a judge.
	Judge Jeanine Pirro yesterday.
	But there's no evidence.
	The defense couldn't defend themselves on it.
	That's bizarre, John.
	No one has heard of this.
	It's like a menu.
	A, column A, B, or C. You don't all have to agree on it.
	Whatever, folks.
	This is a kangaroo court.
	This is unheard of.
	I'm telling you, I've done this for 32 years.
	I'm not a federal prosecutor.
	I'm a state prosecutor.
	I'm not a federal judge.
	I'm a county judge, just like Mershawn.
	This is New York law.
	This is my wheelhouse.
	The is wrong.
	That was, actually, was that today, Jeff, or was that yesterday?
	It was yesterday afternoon.
	Yesterday afternoon.
	Fire, fire in the belly from Justice Judge Jeanine.
	But even if CNN allows truth on there once or twice a day like a broken clock, even if Justice Jeanine is telling us her experience after more than three decades in the judicial system of New York, we can always trust on MSNBC to remain the propagandist prostitutes that they are.
	Andrew Weissman, do you recognize that name?
	He was one of the pitbulls for that senile Robert Mueller when he was heading a special investigation on quid pro quo in Russia, Russia, Russia for the Department of Justice.
	And this is what Andrew Weissman said about the selfsame Judge Murchan.
	It's cut three.
	As you've noted with respect to Judge Marchand, I mean, I am like now, you know, I felt like
	a man crush on him.
	He is such a great judge that it's hard to see that the jurors wouldn't have the same
	impression.
	I mean, he's just, you just keep on thinking if you looked in a dictionary for like judicial
	temperament, that's what you get.
	Jeff, I'm just gonna like for the next four minutes, I'm going to hand over the show to
	Well, I'm not going to say what I would say about the dictionary with him that has had in my mind.
	I think I'm going to keep that.
	Look how happy he is, though.
	That's not fake.
	He's not faking.
	No, he is so giddy because he thinks it's finally coming, the conviction that he's been trying forever since the molar probe.
	It's finally happening for him.
	And what man who actually has testicles admits in public on television to having a man crush on anyone?
	Especially when you're married and your voice sounds like that.
	Let's just curdle milk across the nation.
	Let's just play it again, cut three.
	As you've noted, with respect to Judge Marchand, I mean, I am like now, you know, I have like a man crush on him.
	He is such a great judge that it's hard to see that jurors wouldn't have the same impression.
	I mean, he's just, you just keep on thinking, if you looked in a dictionary for judicial temperament, that's what you'd get.
	So what does Weissman have a man crush over?
	Is it the fact that that judge broke New York state law by, as a judge, donating to an election campaign to Joe Biden, to a super PAC that targets the anti-Trump adverts across the nation?
	Is that what gives him the man-crush?
	Or is it the fact that his daughter has made 93 million dollars for the Democrats off her daddy's trial of President Trump?
	Is that what gives him the man-crush?
	Or perhaps, is it the fact that when I was in the court, you can read all the details in my article that went up yesterday, he said to the president's defense team, as the attorney He was just about to rise out of his chair to the microphone to request something of the court.
	What did Juan Mochan, that exemplar of judicial temperament, do in front of all of us?
	He said, Sit down!
	I don't want to hear from you again!
	As if magically, thanks to some pixie dust out of the judge's left ear, The U.S.
	Constitution dissolved into nothing because the defendants, representatives, can't speak in front of the court because the judge doesn't want to hear from them?
	Is that what gave you the man crush, Andrew Weissman?
	So much to discuss, so much to dissect here on America First.
	We will be joined by the irrepressible Carrie Lake, don't go anywhere.
	The editor-in-chief of Breitbart.com, the conservative powerhouse, Andrew Marlow will be with us.
	Our good buddy, Green Beret Jim Hansen.
	And then, with an unusual take on, well, not a take, his personal story.
	of what happened to him when the deep state targeted him.
	We will have a good friend of mine in the third hour.
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	former strategist and to President Donald J. Trump.
	We have Prison Fellowship summer camps in 49 of the 50 states of the Union.
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	Well, here is an update from one of those camps in Oklahoma.
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	These kids find comfort in a different way.
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	First guest of the day, it's been too long!
	She is a pistol, a pack of dynamite, an unstoppable warrior princess.
	Kari Lake, welcome back to America First.
	I love that.
	That's a perfect description.
	Thank you, Seb.
	Well, I've known you since you first came up to me at Match Laps dinner party one day and said, I'm running for the governor of my state.
	I'm Carrie Lake and I want to get to know you.
	You impressed me and Katie way back when and you've been doing so ever since.
	So give us an update.
	You're a candidate for the U.S.
	Senate out of Arizona.
	The website is CarrieLake.com.
	How's the campaign going and what do your fellow Arizonans Think of what's happening in Manhattan as we speak.
	Well, the campaign's going great.
	I mean, you know, we're fighting against a real true radical and a man named Ruben Gallego.
	He's a mini me.
	Joe Biden votes with Biden 100 percent of the time, you know, is for getting rid of the filibuster for everything from he wants to get rid of the filibuster to bring abortion to nine month.
	He wants to get rid of the filibuster to make D.C.
	and Puerto Rico a state.
	He even wanted to get rid of the filibuster to push a piece of legislation that would
	defund the police.
	This guy is completely radical.
	So he is a candidate that we have to stop, and we have a movement here.
	The movement has grown since even our governor's race.
	More and more people across Arizona said independence.
	I'm talking to disaffected Democrats are saying, oh, my gosh, we've got to bring about a change.
	We're looking good in the polls.
	It's still a little bit neck and neck with this guy because he's got so much money coming in from Soros.
	But we're looking really good.
	President Trump is up eight points in the state.
	My opponent, when people get to know him and really find out what his radical voting record is, they're going to run the other direction.
	So I feel very confident that we can take the seat back.
	Of course, we need all the support we can get.
	Yeah, I'm glad he's spending a lot of money on advertisements because he's spending them very poorly.
	He keeps turning up on my Twitter feed, this Gallego guy, so you're advertising in the wrong place, my friend.
	But his campaign, it's pretty sleazy, pretty dirty, Carrie.
	Oh, well, I mean, that's kind of par for the course with the deep state Democrats.
	And, you know, when you've got Soros money behind you, we just announced he put $7 million to carpet bomb the airways because nobody in Arizona really knows him.
	He's just kind of a generic Democrat to them.
	But when they find out, oh, my goodness, you mean his district is the one downtown that has the fastest growing homeless population in the country?
	Oh my goodness, he voted against the border wall, called it dumb and stupid, and said he would never, ever, ever vote to fund a border wall.
	He voted for sanctuary cities.
	He marched and defunded the police rallies.
	It's really radical, and it's always dirty with the Democrats.
	They'll stop at nothing to try to take this seat.
	It's an important seat in the Senate, and of course they don't want someone like me, a fed-up mom, who's going to go to Washington, D.C.
	and represent the people of this state.
	I can't be bought.
	I can't be bribed, I can't be blackmailed.
	And Seb, you know how Washington D.C.
	operates.
	They only want people in positions of power that they can control through that apparatus of bribery and blackmail.
	Let's go beyond Arizona to the broader picture for the next five months.
	You made a lot of news with this.
	I was in the room when you said it.
	Your take on the last federal election.
	Cut one.
	But time and time again with President Donald J. Trump, when it seemed like the world was falling apart, he came in and brought it back together.
	He had these guys back there attacking him, left and right.
	He had the swamp going after him, and he was still getting stuff done.
	And now we have stumbling, bumbling Joe Biden.
	81 million votes.
	My ass.
	Quite the cheers at CPAC.
	We've only got a few months left.
	Tell us about Arizona.
	Tell us about what you hear when you travel the nation.
	Are you confident that we will have a free and fair election, Carrie Lake?
	I'm hoping that we have brought enough change.
	It's obviously not enough, but just enough to get through this election and have such a huge turnout.
	And by the way, I'm the only person running for U.S.
	Senate in the state of Arizona that That has verbalized the fact that I don't believe Joe Biden truly won 81 million votes.
	Everybody running for the U.S.
	Senate in this state doesn't believe that there was fraud in the election.
	And we know better than that.
	And we must have fair, honest elections going forward or we'll lose our country.
	I mean, Seb, you look at the people pouring across our border in this Biden-vasion right now.
	They're coming from 170 different countries.
	And many of those countries Have watched as their economies have collapsed, as their elections were run like they are in banana republics, because many of them are banana republics.
	And once you lose elections, once they become just theater, where the people know they're a joke and that their vote really doesn't count, then you lose your country forever.
	And so I don't want America to go down that way.
	I want to have honest elections, a level playing field where every Democrat vote counts, every legal vote.
	Whether it's Democrat, Republican, or somewhere in between.
	And that's what I've been fighting for and continue to fight for to this day.
	I'm the only one running for the U.S.
	Senate in Arizona who believes that there was fraud and believes we must address it immediately.
	So we're continuing to work.
	We still have court cases that are running through.
	We're still trying to fight and get rid of these machines that, obviously, when they rolled them out on Election Day, not only were they not tested, they had disapproved, unapproved software.
	They didn't follow the law when it came to those machines.
	And because of that, we saw how they failed on election day in 60% of the polling locations in Arizona and in Maricopa County, I should say, and they were all Republican areas.
	So we got to get this straightened out.
	I'm still working and fighting for that.
	But really, what's important... We're almost out of time.
	You got to be quick.
	Okay, when I get into the U.S.
	Senate is that we secure the border, bring about honest elections, and turn this economy around.
	People are suffering right now.
	Go to CarrieLake.com for more information.
	All right, she deserves your support.
	Carrie with a K. CarrieLake.com and follow her on Twitter at Carrie Lake.
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	first, 833-33-GORKA.
	Why has Chris Basko changed the name of his Twitter account?
	You mean, like, the name that can be edited?
	It now says... Grand Mufti.
	Chris Boskirk E-slash-ACC.
	What does that mean?
	E-slash-ACC?
	Is that a sports thing?
	Jeff, you know what that means?
	Defective accelerationism.
	It's some tech ideology.
	It's what?
	Accelerationism?
	It stands for Effective Accelerationism.
	It's some ideology that's making its way around Silicon Valley.
	Whoa.
	Is this live?
	Is this live?
	No.
	I've heard of accelerationism before, not as a tech ideology.
	Accelerationism?
	What is this?
	Accel... From what has to deal with AI and not censoring it and just letting it do its thing.
	Something like that.
	Ooh, scary.
	That's scary.
	Acceleration... The context I've heard of acceleration from is people who basically support the collapse of society.
	Call for the drastic intensification of capitalistic growth, technological change, and infrastructure sabotage.
	Are you in, Ducasio?
	Yeah.
	So 7, 10, 12, and 14.
	Yeah, so 7, 10, 12, and 14.
	Is there anything else important that I missed?
	Judge Jeanine.
	Okay, good.
	All right.
	So, four.
	Judge Janine has been in the judicial system for 30 years.
	Listen to her about the Trump trial.
	Seven.
	One Democrat state senator tells the truth about her party and the sale of children for sex.
	Ten.
	And then at the end of that, tag her if she's on Twitter.
	Okay.
	And then ten.
	Why is Jill Biden so worried about another conservative on the Supreme Court?
	Is it because of what her husband has done?
	Twelve.
	The world expert on body language at Anthony Scaramucci.
	Hey, Mooch, where are those tapes of President Trump you promised us five years ago, six years ago?
	And then 14.
	The latest insane theory about Judge Murchan, colon, that he'll swap out any juror who says President Trump is innocent.
	Next line, Alan Dershowitz could be right.
	Can he come in with nine?
	Can he come in?
	I'm not sure.
	You You
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	They're trying to erase black history.
	We're going to write black history because it's American history.
	Why is he shouting?
	What's going on there, Eric?
	Why is he like, rah-rah-rah, black history, rah-rah-rah, rah-rah-rah?
	What is that?
	The default political answer would be, oh, he's trying to show how serious it is.
	But again, knowing that this guy is literally senile, and it's been said time and time again, anger and temper issues and yelling is an easy sign, a symptom of mental issues.
	And Jeff, where was that Biden rally?
	Was it in, like, a football stadium?
	Where was that?
	No, it was in a high school gym.
	High school gym?
	I mean, were people hanging off the rafters?
	Was it, like, completely packed like a sardine tin?
	No, it was very empty.
	And also, too... A high school gym?
	There's also a big area, always, at these things that the press takes up, too.
	So that should make it look even more filled.
	Plus, there's no one behind you.
	So he's like halfway, maybe 100, 125 people?
	I don't get it.
	So even if it's a tribe, if it's a cult, why can't the Democrats fill a high school gym?
	Why on earth would you go watch him speak unless you're curious to see what gaff he's going to have?
	I mean, honestly, if you are a Democrat, what are you going to get out of that?
	Well, yeah, but I'm not a Democrat.
	I can't think like them.
	Yeah, but I mean, at least Trump, you know, it's going to be funny.
	He's going to say something different.
	You're going to be with normal people.
	Yeah.
	Um, Jeff, tell us a little bit of your story about, I came back from Trump Tower last week and I gave everybody a genuine DJT MAGA hat from the Trumps were in Trump Tower.
	What did you wear it this weekend?
	I forgot.
	I told you about that.
	So I don't wear hats that much.
	So I ended up wearing it.
	I think I took it.
	I'm trying to think.
	It wasn't the post office, probably the store or whatever.
	And I noticed some people were kind of giving me a smile and some people would look away.
	And I said, this is fantastic.
	I know instantly know who to like and who not to like.
	So I ended up wearing it all weekend.
	It was fantastic.
	I had a couple of people come up, say things to me.
	People kind of looked bad at me and I just kind of gave them a dirty look back.
	It was great.
	So it's like a magic hat.
	It's kind of like if you're a Democrat, you wear a mask.
	Oh, all right.
	Any of the other guys, Eric, have you worn your brand new MAGA hat in public?
	Not yet, but I'll be sure to try to wear that more along.
	I have like several.
	That's not like the seventh MAGA hat I have in my closet now.
	Of course Eric has seven.
	Guy, have you worn the hat I gave you outside?
	Yes, sir.
	I wore it when I went to the grocery store last Saturday.
	I got a little bit panicked when people look at me, but I got like maybe a couple I think I got five compliments.
	Five?
	Just from one trip to the gross?
	That's nice.
	What about Mr. Engineer?
	What about Alex?
	Have you worn your hat in public?
	No, but I thought about wearing it home from work and then I was like, I do not want to get jumped by Antifa because we're in DC, you know.
	I don't think there's random bands of Antifa running around DC, so I think you're safe, dude.
	And if you're the board op, if you're the engineer for America First, you should wear it with pride.
	Let's go to line one.
	Judy in Brooklyn!
	I bet she's got one or two MAGA hats.
	Hi, first of all, hello, Super Gorka Man.
	That's your new name for me.
	Super Gorka Man!
	Okay, I like that.
	Super Gorka Man.
	Okay, good.
	Yes, yes.
	Instead of Superman, we've got Super Gorka Man.
	By the way, I have to correct you.
	Democrats don't think at all.
	They don't think, okay?
	Thank you.
	I apologize for making that mistake.
	Uh-huh.
	Uh-huh.
	So, listen.
	Has been replaced with the cartel and they are our new homeland insecurity.
	And yet we've got this actor called Robert DeZero.
	Okay.
	That's good.
	Did you, did you come up with that?
	No, I did not.
	I heard it a while ago when he called Trump F whatever, and someone called him a zero.
	And I, I just think it went into my head and I love it so much, but it has not been used since.
	So I figured, let me just bring it back.
	Cause it's so appropriate.
	He's one big fat zero.
	So listen, I'm very honest.
	So listen, you know what he said.
	President Trump is a danger to our lives.
	Are you kidding?
	In the past three years, where has he been?
	Like, Biden has been misled, misleading his country.
	Look at the Afghanistan disaster.
	Look at the emboldenment he did for Russia, China, Iran at our expense.
	Look under President Trump.
	Inflation, 1.4 percent, Dr. Gorka.
	Gas was 1.87.
	I remember this.
	Now look what we've got, okay?
	And this does zero over here.
	I've got a little story.
	Bill O'Reilly said it this morning.
	I have to share with you and whoever is listening.
	You gotta be quick.
	You got 40 seconds.
	What did Bill say?
	Okay so he was sitting at some sort of gala next to Ethel Kennedy who's still alive and this is like a couple years ago perhaps I don't know and all of a sudden she goes oh hi Bobby and someone's like uh he was sitting with her and all of a sudden he looks and who is it it's Bobby De Niro okay Robert De Niro and and so she's oh have you ever met Bill O'Reilly and they've never met before and guess what he does he looks at Bill Yeah.
	Riley and he just like almost spits in his face like like that you know and he
	so Bill O'Reilly slowly gets out of his chair and you've got a picture this this
	zero is five seven on a good day whatever the other one Bill O'Reilly six
	foot four he stands towering over him and he looks and goes do you have a
	problem with me And so he was saying today that he just backed up.
	He didn't even turn his back.
	What?
	The tough guy?
	The tough guy?
	Oh, I'm so shocked.
	Robert.
	zero couldn't stand up to a little Bob, a little Bill O'Reilly.
	Thank you for that story. I wasn't familiar with that. Thank you, Judy. Stay
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	Not yet.
	Give me 13 and 14.
	Here we go again.
	Five weeks.
	We didn't use the mooch yet, right? Not yet. Give me 13 and 14. Here we go again. Five
	weeks. I've been here again. I'd like to answer all of your questions.
	I'd like to answer all of your questions.
	They're very easy questions to answer, but I'm gagged.
	I can't talk as much as I would like to about this ridiculous case that's hurting our country so badly.
	Some of the reviews from yesterday are the... And by the way, everyone's against this case.
	I haven't seen one legal scholar or expert in the law saying that this case It should have been filed.
	It should not have been filed.
	Or at a minimum, it should have been filed seven years ago.
	Seven years old, everybody turned it down, including federal elections turned it down.
	Southern District turned it down.
	Brad turned it down.
	Then he rejuvenated it when I was running for office.
	It's a terrible thing.
	At the request of Biden.
	Fourteen.
	Fourteen.
	So, the judge hears from the jurors, and the judge hears that.
	They're 11 to 1.
	And then the judge says, well, is that other juror, the 12th juror, is he Negotiating.
	Is he involved in the conversations?
	And the foreman of the jury says, no, he's refusing.
	He's sitting there with his arms folded saying, guy's innocent.
	Sorry, guy's innocent.
	I'm not going to listen to you.
	The guy's innocent.
	There's no case here.
	The guy's innocent.
	Far out of the jury.
	That's what I'd be doing.
	And then the judge has the power, rarely, rarely exercised, but he has the power.
	I've seen it done to say, well, if this juror won't deliberate, then he's violating his oath.
	And I'm going to substitute one of the alternate jurors for that jury, juror.
	And then immediately they come back with a 12 to another.
	And then give me 11. 11.
	Yeah, I mean, I think that it feels like there's a dam breaking.
	There are so many people who have been working within the system trying to speak through the proper channels about what they are witnessing and what they're seeing and how horrific it is and that we are supplying these weapons.
	We're providing the financing for the ongoing violence against innocent Palestinian civilians.
	And I think people are realizing that no matter what they do or say, that their voice isn't being heard.
	And I think they're starting to reach the same conclusion, unfortunately, that I made and that Lily made.
	Come in with the...
	I think that's fair.
	You Here we go again
	Five weeks.
	I've been here.
	I'm gagged.
	I'd like to answer all of your questions.
	They're very easy questions to answer, but I'm gagged, so I can't talk as much as I would like to about this ridiculous case that's hurting our country so badly.
	Some of the reviews from yesterday are the... And by the way, everyone who gets this case, I haven't seen one legal scholar or expert in the law saying that this case It should have been filed.
	It should not have been filed.
	Or at a minimum, it should have been filed seven years ago.
	At seven years old, everybody turned it down, including federal elections turned it down.
	Southern District turned it down.
	Bragg turned it down.
	Then he rejuvenated it when I was running for office.
	It's a terrible thing.
	At the request of Biden.
	So, at first it seems a bit strange, doesn't it?
	It really does seem strange why the President is reading people's articles as he stands in that drafty corridor.
	But let me explain why.
	First things first, though, please, I know you've got a cell phone, even if it's a flip phone, please guarantee to me right now one thing, that you're not using it to fund the people who are trying to put President Trump in prison.
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	So I was there, standing behind the president on Tuesday, last Tuesday, In this corridor, and it's this dingy, dimly lit, neon lights above you, this corridor where the 45th, and God willing, if we do our part, the 47th President of the United States gives his press conferences.
	They deliberately do it there.
	It's a power move.
	There's no microphone.
	The press pool is 30, 40 feet away with the microphones You know, on their cameras or their cell phones.
	And what does the President do?
	I thought it was weird the first time I heard him quote our friends, like Greg Jarrett, like John Solomon.
	And he's got a sheaf of articles in front of himself, and he's reading the analyses from legal scholars, from investigative journalists, from the likes of Alan Dershowitz, instead of speaking himself.
	Why?
	Because he can't.
	Because the first time ever, the gag orders, which are meant to protect the defendants, who are innocent, they're innocent until proven guilty beyond any reasonable doubt, that is the requirement.
	But he's been gagged, not the prosecution.
	The defendant's been gagged.
	So he can't qualitatively talk about the court case in which he is risking imprisonment.
	So what does he have to do?
	What is he forced to do?
	He's forced to read what other people say.
	Because otherwise he goes to prison not because he's found guilty but because the judge slams him in prison for contempt of court.
	Truly, if you think of the fine details, and you realize what they all add up to, you understand what's really happening.
	All right, it's 3.47 now, 3.48.
	Still the jury hasn't decided.
	I hope that's a good sign.
	But let's listen to a truly nightmare scenario.
	From perhaps the most famous academic scholar in America, he is emeritus professor from Harvard, and he's not even a Trump voter.
	He's a lifelong Democrat.
	What happens if one of the jurors says President Trump isn't guilty?
	This is what Alan Dershowitz thinks Judge Murchan could do next.
	So the judge hears from the jurors, and the judge hears that they're 11 to 1.
	And then the judge says, well, is that other juror, the 12th juror, is he negotiating?
	Is he involved in the conversations?
	And the foreman of the jury says, no, he's refusing.
	He's sitting there with his arms folded saying, guy's innocent.
	Sorry, guy's innocent.
	I'm not going to listen to you.
	The guy's innocent.
	There's no case here.
	The guy's innocent.
	If I were on the jury, that's what I'd be doing.
	And then the judge has the power, rarely, rarely exercised, but he has the power.
	I've seen it done to say, well, if this juror won't deliberate, Then he's violating his oath.
	And I'm gonna substitute one of the alternate jurors for that jury, juror, and then immediately they come back with a 12 to nothing verdict of conviction.
	I'm not saying that that's going to happen.
	I'm not saying that's even in the judge's mind.
	But knowing this judge and seeing him in actions, particularly having seen him in action the day I was in the court, when they cleared everybody but I was allowed to stay, why, I still don't know.
	And I saw the real Judge Merchant.
	That's not beyond the realm of possibility.
	So they talk about venue shopping.
	They talk about judge shopping where the permanent bureaucracy,
	the unaccountable elite just chooses the judge.
	They know is on their side.
	What did we just hear from Alan Dershowitz?
	Juror shopping.
	The judge, who's a political activist, illegally donated to the Biden campaign.
	If he doesn't get the jury to unanimously convict President Trump, he'll just excuse, he'll fire that one recalcitrant juror and say, oh, alternate?
	Your time's up.
	You're going to agree with the other 11, right?
	It's not out of the question, after what we've witnessed in the last three and a half years.
	Hopefully, Professor Dershowitz is wrong, but he may not be.
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	Uh, for everything thus far.
	Chris, monologue, carry.
	Um, what was the mono about?
	Uh, you spend some time talking about Weissman saying he has a man crush.
	Oh, yeah.
	What man publicly says he has a man crush?
	Question mark.
	Uh, carry.
	Mhm.
	Are our elections safe?
	Are our elections safe?
	Yup.
	And then for Chris, what did he say?
	He said... He said it's one of his best top ten movies.
	Yeah. Dirty Harry more relevant than ever.
	Mm hmm.
	There we go. Yup.
	Okay.
	You know, APEC unfortunately has been shut down for a while now. And I'm not going to
	go into that.
	But I'm going to talk about the APEC report.
	And I'm going to talk about the report that the APEC report is about.
	And my opponent is partnering with them, even though the majority of their donors are MAGA, racist Republicans, trying to take our voting rights, trying to take reproductive rights, gutting affirmative action, and supporting fascism.
	Who is that, Jeff?
	Who is that guy?
	I don't recognize him.
	He's the lookout for fires in Congress.
	Oh, he's the fire marshal who can't read.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Bowman?
	Yeah.
	Jamal?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Who says what?
	A-PAC?
	The American-Israeli PAC is racist?
	He tried to get every buzzword there he could there.
	MAGA, racist, Gaza.
	All right, a little behind the scenes here.
	I was following somebody on Twitter today, or I had been following, Dr. Simon Godek, who'd said some good stuff that was, you know, anti-woke.
	And then he says this about AIPAC.
	He compares somebody saying that CAIR's a problem, right?
	The Council of American Islamic Relations.
	Then his response, then there's AIPAC, which is heavily meddling in American elections, posing a much greater danger to democracy.
	Really?
	Somebody's posting about care and the pro-Hamas demonstrators on campuses, but Israel?
	Israel is a much greater threat?
	Weird.
	I've never heard Jews say, down with democracy, down with America, and burn the American flag.
	Simon, Godek, you are blocked.
	Let's go to Sean, New York City, line one.
	Another day and build back Bolshevik.
	How are you, sir?
	I'm good.
	I'm good.
	What would you like to comment on?
	I would like to say that when Donald Trump is vindicated and, God willing, is reelected, that he will sanction Soros.
	Seize his assets, take away his passport, don't let him back in the United States.
	Well, I'm not sure how I wonder what legal jurisdiction you seize his assets and take away his passports.
	You can do things with regards to his meddling in elections and stop his funding, his privatization of elections, but, you know, seizing assets, that's a pretty high bar.
	Well, it seems to me that if we can sanction Russian oligarchs, we can certainly sanction Stalin.
	Yeah, but they're foreigners.
	You know that.
	They do have less rights than U.S.
	citizens.
	You do understand that you have certain rights as a U.S.
	citizen.
	Like, you have to have due process.
	The thing that they're not giving President Trump, right?
	Do we want to play the Democrats' game?
	Do we want to strip Americans that we don't like of their civil rights, Sean?
	Because that's pretty dangerous.
	I think this is a war, Dr. Gorka.
	Well, yeah, but do we use the tactics of those who have ripped up the Constitution?
	Do you want to rip up the Constitution, Sean?
	I don't.
	I don't.
	I want to win the war, though.
	I want to win the war.
	I want to win the war, too.
	But I don't want to live in an America where we, the good guys, have ripped up the Constitution.
	Why?
	Because then it's not America anymore and I don't want to live there.
	We've got enough real crimes they've committed That we need to stop, charge, and prosecute first.
	Thank you.
	And think of the Supreme Court.
	For God's sake, talk about things getting worse.
	Can you imagine if we put any more Republicans on the Supreme Court?
	No.
	No.
	We will lose all of our rights.
	So, we're talking about women's rights, gay rights, I mean, we will lose our rights.
	Voting rights.
	Voting rights, yes.
	All this is up in stake.
	Thank you.
	You You
	You you
	you We are now about on the precipice of an irreparable, harmful decision by two justices who, to any other federal judge in the country, would recuse.
	And it is up to Chief Justice Roberts to save the court's legitimacy right now.
	And for him to not respond to Senator Durbin and Senator Whitehouse, and instead for Alito to respond to them.
	Is truly flouting Congress's oversight authority and Congress's role as a co-equal branch.
	And it does not bode well for what is to come over the next few weeks when I think the biggest travesty in Supreme Court history may occur if these two justices rule on cases about which they are clearly conflicting.
	The biggest travesty in Supreme Court history.
	I mean, saying slavery was okay, you were good with that, right, Dan Goldman?
	Do you remember that decision, Dred B. Scott?
	Unbelievable.
	He takes the biscuit.
	Adam Schiff was bad, but that person is the most mandatious individual on Capitol Hill.
	It's been far too long, so much to discuss.
	Let's open the second hour of the show as we have what?
	We have...
	23 minutes left for the jury to decide today.
	He is the boss man, employee number one at the Concerted Juggernaut that is Breitbart.com, the author of Breaking Biden.
	My dear friend, Alex Marlow, without the mustache.
	Welcome back.
	Dr. G, it's a pleasure to be on with you, and it's a pleasure to speak with you regardless of how many millions of people are listening.
	Okay, we have to talk about what's happening in the courtroom, but let's discuss this that I haven't, you know, really dealt with on the show.
	I go to church with two of the Supreme Court justices, and the fact that I know they're at the mass I'm going to, because there are three undercover U.S.
	Marshal security detail SUVs outside the church, I'm thinking, I'm thinking, why are Supreme Court justices in danger, and why is it only the conservative ones?
	Because I doubt the Democrats go to church to begin with, and if they did, I doubt there'd be anybody threatening their lives.
	Can you talk to the fact that we have Democrats who are threatening politically and physically the highest court in the land?
	And over flags!
	Flags, Alex!
	Yeah, it is, and also family members too, which is supposed to be off limits.
	It is funny you notice that, Dr. G, because I want to point out how where I'm at now, just north of L.A., when you see a celebrity sighting, it's usually at a restaurant, maybe it's at a dog park.
	When you're in D.C., the celebrity sightings are at church, and this happens to me all the time.
	I saw so many famous people.
	No, if you're a conservative, right?
	Yeah, and it's always a trip to know people who have to really know that they're all eyes on them, even while they're at church.
	But what's happening with the intimidation of Supreme Court justices, it is a way of the weaponization of our media that I wrote about in my first book, Breaking the News.
	It's just an escalated version of that.
	It's trying to punish you and make it a crime to be a conservative person, to have constitutional, originalist values.
	And it is something that they might be able, you might be able to get away with it, so to speak, but they want to make your life miserable.
	They want to send a signal to you to get harassed when you're in public, that your neighbors make it uncomfortable for you to live in their neighborhoods.
	It is so nasty and disgusting, and it's out of the realm of anything we would have thought possible until recent years.
	And it's coming almost entirely from one side, and that's the political left.
	Yeah, I love this.
	You've inspired me.
	It's a crime to be a conservative.
	I may have to write something on that.
	I might do it for those chaps at Breitbart.
	I've got a website where you can post it.
	I think I might.
	I'll have my guys reach out to you guys.
	Your guys.
	Let's stay on this issue before we go to the court in Manhattan.
	The First Lady is also getting involved in this and she really, really wants the Supreme Court to be packed with her buddies.
	Cut ten!
	But we cannot take things for granted, because they can.
	And think of the Supreme Court.
	For God's sake, talk about things getting worse.
	Can you imagine if we put any more Republicans on the Supreme Court?
	No.
	No.
	We will lose all of our rights.
	So, we're talking about women's rights, gay rights, I mean, we will lose our rights.
	Voting rights.
	Voting rights, yes.
	All this is up at stake.
	All of this is up in stake.
	Whoopie, learn some English first.
	So Jill Biden says, for God's sake, if we don't pack it full of Democrats, we can't kill more babies and we won't be allowed to vote, Alex.
	Yeah, it's interesting how the fact checkers don't point out that this is all lies.
	It's all nonsense.
	Of course, none of that stuff is going to happen.
	Trump was already president.
	And why did he take away all those rights the last time?
	So it doesn't make any sense.
	Dr. Jill Biden is an incredibly unimpressive person.
	It's the, as you know, Dr. G, you've been so kind to promote some of my research on the Biden family.
	And the deep dive I took into Biden individuals, some of them are quite bright and they're just asterly
	and none of them are good people.
	But Dr. Jill Biden is such a nothing burger.
	And the fact that the thing that she dines out on the most is that she got an Ed D.
	when she was in her 50s and walks around like she's, you know, the Surgeon General, which Whoopi Goldberg, by the way, recommended, Dr. G., that Jill Biden be the Surgeon General.
	That is true.
	And that is fact check true.
	She has a postgraduate degree in education policy.
	And nobody who gets an Ed.D., nobody gets an education policy doctor.
	Nobody calls himself a doctor.
	Find out more in the book Breaking Biden.
	All right, let's flip to, we're waiting, we've got, you know, they're showing the camera, the door of the court right now, President Trump's second day of juridiberation.
	I'd love to get you on for a longer chat.
	We've got four minutes left.
	I'm just going to unleash the Marlowe.
	Talk to me about the last five weeks and what we're seeing in New York.
	Yeah, what we're seeing is a war on our Constitution.
	It's that level from Judge Marchand.
	This is something that I want people to understand the gravity of the third world nature of what's happening.
	This is horrifying what is going on in this courtroom.
	We still don't even know what the charges are.
	We don't know what laws the president allegedly broke and they're trying to frame it as if he's trying to defraud the public, Dr. G, but they're not listing specifically what he did.
	They're trying to make the act of running a political campaign basically a felony, not even just some sort of a petty crime, a felony.
	Because he was trying to spend money to influence the election.
	No, he was doing something that appears to be perfectly legal in any other circumstance and they're trying to invent a circumstance where it is illegal because he was running for office or something.
	If you're confused, so is everyone else.
	I've talked to the smartest people imaginable on this stuff, and even they can barely follow what's going on in this courtroom, and it's all designed to do the exact same thing they're doing to Justice Alito.
	It is to make it illegal to be a conservative.
	That is what's going on right now.
	During the closing arguments, they made the prosecution go last so the defense couldn't respond.
	The prosecution was invoking, Dr. G., a campaign finance violation, even though Trump has never been charged with a campaign finance violation.
	They're trying to stack the deck as much as possible.
	But the good news, it appears to me, as the American public sees through this, it appears to me that the American public is going to run to Donald Trump's side after the verdict, no matter what it is.
	So you concur with what Vivek said yesterday, that guilty or innocent, it's a win-win for President Trump?
	Absolutely.
	My prediction is if he's innocent, then it is a big win.
	If he's guilty, it's a bigger win.
	What's more interesting is if it's a hung jury, which is probably the most likely option at this point.
	The only reason why maybe a guilty conviction is the most likely outcome for now.
	It's because the rules that Merchant has put into place Yeah.
	are so that if they agree that Trump committed any crime, even if they can't agree on which crime,
	they can render a guilty verdict.
	Which no one's ever tried this.
	This is such a dirty trick.
	It's so political.
	This is so clearly about November the 5th.
	It will eventually get overturned, but will it get overturned before the election?
	And that's what she's trying to do.
	And the Supreme Court actually has precedence to do this.
	They can reach down proactively if New York kind of slow rolls this in the next five months.
	But we shall wait and see.
	In the meantime, so much to discuss.
	Can we get you back for a longer chat?
	I would love that.
	When can we do it?
	All right.
	I'll have my guys talk to your guys and I might write something about criminalizing being a conservative.
	The book is Breaking Biden, Exposing the Hidden Forces and Secret Money Machine Behind Joe Biden, His Family and His Administration.
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	Three and a half minutes.
	He's coming in now.
	Was it something specific you want Marlo on?
	No, no, no.
	Nothing.
	Oh, thanks.
	Hey, buddy.
	it far too long.
	Ah.
	Yukon Cornelius.
	Oh, yeah.
	Man, he's always packing a big fixed blade.
	Wheel gun!
	He was always ready.
	You're a wheel gun guy, you like wheel guns.
	If you don't practice all the time, you know.
	There's buttons and stuff to do.
	There's springs and shit.
	Pull the trigger and it goes bang.
	I am a big fan.
	I like the .357 Magnum.
	It is one of the best calibers.
	I like the 10 mil, which kind of replicates it.
	Exactly.
	But the .357?
	Yep.
	I'm just partial.
	We're going to be reviewing Dirty Harry tomorrow on the show.
	Oh, fun.
	That's another fun caliber.
	I mean, come on.
	For Eastwood's 94th birthday.
	Yeah, for his 94th or 93rd?
	It's 94.
	94th birthday.
	That's tomorrow, Clint Eastwood.
	I think we need to deathmatch him against De Niro.
	Right?
	He would win.
	Can you imagine if there was like two feet between them?
	Right.
	Alright, so much to talk about.
	Let's talk about the trial.
	Let's talk about the Iran tweet.
	Let's talk about the pier.
	We've got to talk about the pier.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Super good.
	Alright.
	Angel tree.
	Angel tree at the top.
	Are you going to mention his book or?
	Yes.
	Okay, yeah.
	What else can we come in with?
	We've done Biden.
	We already used the AIPAC.
	thing from a moment that would have been good. I want to do scaramucci with Jim that'd be funny.
	That's cut. That's 14. 14. Okay. Oh no that's Dershowitz is 14. No 12. 12. Okay. Yeah.
	Oh yeah there it is.
	Coming with Coming with Biden, cut eight.
	Cut eight.
	I'll do five.
	Screaming.
	All right.
	And uh, just need a title for Marlow.
	Ummm...
	Something about Alito.
	You spent most of the talk.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	The trial.
	If they find him guilty, Trump wins big.
	Angel tree at the top here.
	No.
	No.
	No, the cut that I said.
	Okay, cut.
	35.
	Cut.
	What do you think?
	He would have done on January 6th if black Americans had stormed him.
	Think about this.
	What do you think would have happened if black Americans had stormed the Capitol?
	I don't think he'd be talking about pardons.
	It's the same guy who wanted to tear gas you as you peacefully protested George Floyd's murder.
	What are you babbling about?
	In that high school gymnasium?
	The man who wanted to tear gas you?
	What are you babbling on?
	Seriously?
	That's the Commander-in-Chief?
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	Alright, he's the guy who's always got my back whether it's at the Rose Garden
	or elsewhere. The author of the book Get Based, former Green Beret.
	He is now with the Middle East Forum.
	He's their boss of all things.
	What a chief editor, not just regular editor, chief editor.
	MEforum.com, Jim Hansen, thanks for coming back in.
	Good to be with you.
	We could just go across every issue of politics, what's happening in Manhattan, but first things first, you're a military man.
	I don't even want to talk about this openly because of the message it sends the world.
	We have 12 nuclear aircraft carriers.
	We have more special operators than SF guys, than many nations have just regular soldiers.
	But we can't build a little pier on the beach in the Middle East without it washing up on shore and breaking up.
	We've got footage of the pier, the Gazan pier.
	I'm embarrassed.
	I'm annoyed as a taxpayer.
	I'm embarrassed as an American.
	Can you talk to me about what message this sends?
	sheer blithering incompetence and an inability to project power in the way a great nation
	has to.
	You know, Rob O'Donnell pointed out he found the instructions for this type of pier, and
	it tells you what sea conditions it's capable of surviving in.
	And the place they put it has heavier sea conditions than the other.
	So they literally, they didn't read the fricking instruction manual before they put this thing
	up.
	It's a disgrace.
	Unbelievable.
	And then, and then what, what do the...
	I'm curious, what do you think, what does Hamas think of that?
	Well, I think Hamas is the ones most affected because now they're not getting those supplies right off the end of the pier they were getting.
	Because the only stuff they got off the boats at all and got anywhere was immediately scarfed up by Hamas.
	So, I think they're probably suffering more than the Gazans.
	Stand down.
	Stand down.
	I have the official statement from the Deputy Pentagon Press Secretary.
	You ready?
	This is so good.
	Um, I have to push back on the fact that this is a failure!
	Because at the end of the day, you have, you know... This is the pre... I'm sorry.
	You have, you know, men and women out there separated from their families who are putting themselves first.
	I don't remember that definition of winning, that you're deployed.
	I thought it's kind of necessary to do anything to get deployed first.
	Yeah, the mission was not to deploy people to do something meaningless.
	The mission was to deliver aid to Gaza, and they failed miserably.
	Okay, all right.
	Let's talk about what's happening in the courtroom right now.
	They've got maybe a few minutes left of jury deliberation today, maybe five minutes left.
	I'm curious, is Vivek Ramaswamy right that either decision, guilty or innocent, is a
	vindication for the boss?
	Bottom line, Trump can't lose here.
	I mean, honestly, if they haul him out in shackles and frog march him to jail, he couldn't be better off.
	But the thing is, you guys out front had a good, fun thing.
	What if the judge, they get a hung jury and the judge replaces the juror that hangs him and just shows, I don't even care?
	Not just my thumb.
	I got both elbows and my feet on it.
	Next juror!
	You're excused.
	Give me the one who's said guilty already.
	I'll bring him in.
	But relax.
	Again, stand down Green Beret because we've got an expert here.
	I didn't know this when I met him for the short 10 days he served in the Trump administration.
	But the mooch is an expert on body language and he knows what's really going on in that courtroom.
	Cut 12.
	Well, you know, the double fist pump is sort of this, you know, solidarity pump, you know, letting people know that he's Chipper.
	It's sort of part of that dance move sequence that he does, which looks ridiculous, but for whatever reason, the people that are in his follower group like it.
	But the accordion move is usually a sign of nervousness.
	And so when you find Mr. Trump saying something that he really doesn't believe, where he has to dial into a frame of mind to push himself to say something, he does the accordion move.
	And so you could see that on full display yesterday with the accordion move.
	The circle move is when he's speaking more with certainty.
	I mean, he said accordion move four times.
	Did you know that Scaramucci was a body language expert as well?
	I thought he was just a garden variety grifter.
	He's got all kinds of skills I didn't know about.
	Hang on, I'm gonna use, I'm writing right now.
	Garden variety grifter.
	And I'm so confused.
	There are reports again that they have tapes of President Trump saying naughty words.
	Oh my.
	Do you remember, Jim, you've got a pretty good memory, when he was kicked out of the White House, he said for the last six years, he's got tapes too.
	Omarosa said it.
	Why aren't they releasing the tapes, Jimbo?
	There's just zero chance there's any tapes.
	The whole point of a reality show like The Apprentice is to run the cameras 24-7 to catch crap like that.
	So the idea that, oh no, we did this all this time, except for the one time Trump said the N-word.
	And we're sitting on it.
	Right, yeah, we've been saving it for a very important occasion.
	Because the fact that the current incumbent is down in seven of the battleground states, that more Hispanics are voting for him than for Donald Trump than for Biden.
	No, no, we'll wait a little bit longer.
	That's really believable.
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	Super chat here from LJ Greywolf, the one who influenced us to use Dirty Harry
	tomorrow.
	For another two dollars, says, since Jim Hansen is here, I would like to make
	another movie request.
	The Green Berets with John Wayne.
	Alright, The Green Beret.
	Not the best made movie.
	Let me consult with Chris on The Green Berets.
	Very popular soundtrack though.
	Oh, am I doing Bannon today?
	Um, let me ask his guy.
	I know that's supposed to, it's back to being a weekly regular thing I believe, but let me double check.
	Obviously the schedule changing.
	Given the news cycle.
	What's his name?
	Come on, come on, come on, come on.
	Three minutes.
	Three minutes.
	Thank you, everybody for coming.
	We need to check that rep before and not ask them last minute.
	Okay.
	All right, I'm gonna play cut seven for Jim.
	7, yes.
	I think we've done almost everything.
	the yeah i mean i think that it feels like there's a damn
	breaking There are so many people who have been working within the system trying to speak through the proper channels about what they're witnessing and what they're seeing and how horrific it is.
	We are supplying these weapons, we're providing the financing for the ongoing violence against innocent Palestinian civilians, and I think people are realizing that no matter what they do or say, that their voice isn't being heard, and I think they're starting to reach the same conclusion, unfortunately, that I made and that Lily made.
	You said you'll come in with seven?
	No, I'm gonna tee it up.
	Tee up seven, okay.
	Yeah, and I'm doing, uh, my put at the top.
	Pillow at the top, okay.
	Mm-hmm.
	90 All right, everybody yeah sure
	I'm going to go ahead and get started.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Right.
	Substance.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I know Sebastian well.
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	Jim, I want to talk about Where we are strategically in terms of the political match is the next five months.
	We could talk about the rallies, the massive rallies, the polls, the record-breaking donations, but I want to play this cut to you that Jeff found.
	This is from a state senator in California.
	Her name is Susan Talamantes Eggman and she is talking about Senate Bill 1414 which they wanted to make it a felony To buy children to have sex with.
	It's now a misdemeanor, right?
	Thanks to, you know, who's that pervert in California, Eric?
	Wiener.
	Wiener.
	You got it.
	Jamie knew what I'm talking about, okay?
	And so there's this lobby, including, you know, LGBTQ, LMNOP lunatics like him, that want, you know, sex with 16 or 15 year olds.
	That should just be a slap on the wrist.
	This Democrat state senator has had enough.
	Take a listen.
	As a progressive, proud member of this body for the last 12 years, I'm done.
	I'm done with us protecting people who would buy and abuse our children.
	I'm done.
	I don't want to send more black and brown men to prison.
	I don't want more people in prison.
	But I don't want people buying girls.
	I don't want people buying little girls anymore.
	And I'm tired of saying it's okay, and that we have to protect the men who do it.
	So we can talk about polls, we can talk about donations, and I know this is just one anecdote, but don't you think this is a sign of something that they've just gone too far, Jim?
	Yeah, I mean, she said, I'm through.
	You know, that's it.
	And that's what it took.
	It took normal people to go ahead and say, wait a minute, you want to be able to do what?
	You know, it's going to be okay to have sex with kids, to sell them into sexual slavery and all that stuff, or to indoctrinate them into the queer agenda.
	You know, all of these things have, when you get them in the minds of normals, they make them want to throw up.
	And that's what had to happen, and I thank them for going too far, because we had to fix this.
	What is the danger?
	Because you understand politics, you also understand information operations.
	What's the danger of us taking this for granted and saying, ah, we're going to win.
	Whatever happens in the court, we're going to win.
	Everything's okay.
	They've crossed the Rubicon and America's waking up.
	Well, if we don't act and actually start replacing people on school boards, if we don't act and say laws like this have to be passed and it's unacceptable not to, and make the people who vote the wrong way pay, then what, just saying we won the information war is meaningless.
	The information war is designed to win the real war, the policy war, and the war to stop people abusing kids.
	Last question, talking to Jim Hansen, Chief Editor at the Middle East Forum.
	What would you like to see, irrespective of what happens in that courtroom, what would you like to see, oh breaking news, court deliberations, jury deliberations will continue tomorrow, they've excused the jury again for a second day, what would you like to see President Trump do more of in the next five months?
	I think what he needs to do is go ahead and remind everyone, and he started saying it a long time ago and it didn't work as well.
	He says, they're not coming for me, they're coming for you.
	I'm just in the way.
	And I think people can see that now.
	I think that theme You know, among everything else, he's got the economy is a shambles.
	He's got the foreign policy, the world's on fire.
	But the bottom line, if people believe that they are no longer safe and secure in their homes, that the Constitution no longer protects them, laws no longer protect them, because political attacks can become criminal attacks, can destroy your life, like they've destroyed his, well, he's going to be president again, so not too much destruction.
	But they tried and failed, and that needs to be the message.
	Spread that message.
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	You With breaking news, here's Sebastian Gorka.
	So those initial reports, what do they say?
	First reports from the battlefield are always incorrect that we mentioned a few moments ago that the jury has been excused after a second day of deliberations.
	Not quite.
	The breaking news is that a verdict has been reached in the trial of President Trump, New
	York versus the 45th President of the United States.
	Apparently the reading of the verdict is moments away, so we shall keep our eye on the ticker.
	Make sure you get it here.
	And any news from the campaign, from the president's defense team as well.
	And we will have special guests Joe DeGeneva and Victoria Tunsing in the third hour to break down everything we hear as soon as we hear it.
	Okay, I think, who do we have?
	We have somebody on line three.
	I don't know if it's on this topic.
	Who do we have?
	No, we don't.
	We've lost it.
	So the number if you want to chime in on a topic of the day 833-33-GORKA 833-334-6752
	perhaps the most important one that we could tease out from you is what happens now.
	There are three, I hate saying this, logical scenarios because there's nothing logical about this court case
	where a 12 person decision is not required according to the judge.
	Where the prosecution was allowed to speak last?
	Where the judge told the defense team to sit down because I don't want to hear your voice again?
	Anything can happen in a court of that ilk.
	But if things were logical, there would be what?
	There would be a guilty finding?
	There would be a finding of innocence, not guilty, or there could be some kind of technical issue, a mistrial, a hung jury, or in the other instance, what Alan Dershowitz summarized for us, a strange scenario whereby if one juror said something that was displeasing to the judge, who clearly is working for the prosecution, for the Biden administration, whose daughter has Netted 93 million dollars for the Democrats off this trial as an advisor, as a strategist, as a fundraiser for the party that is in power in the White House.
	Then he could just say, OK, I've got alternates and I'm going to replace you.
	My decision is that you have not kept your oath as a juror.
	And as such, I'm using that as a pretext to what?
	Not to venue shop, not to judge shop.
	But to juror shop until I have 12 people who concur with me and agree that President Trump committed a crime.
	I can't tell you what it is.
	And let's not talk about the statute of limitations expiring three years ago and the fact that this is a federal election and I have no writ as an acting judge in the state of New York.
	But those things are all irrelevant, just as they were in the E. Jean Carroll case.
	A case that could only have been brought, how?
	By the statute of limitations being temporarily extended so they could go after President Trump.
	Don't listen to me.
	Listen to the governor of New York, Kathy Hochul, who said what?
	She said to all those people saying, well, we've got businesses in New York, and what if you come after us like you came after President Trump?
	And that's when they said the quiet part out loud.
	This isn't indicative of how stupid they are.
	They're wicked.
	They're evil.
	They hate America.
	And they hate President Trump and all patriots.
	But they're stupid as well.
	Why?
	Because she said it out loud.
	If you're a businessman in New York, no, nothing to worry about.
	This case about filing of expenses, this is just about one man.
	It's about Donald Trump.
	Sorry, excuse me?
	The legal system is perverted, is stretched, is bent for one purpose, and one purpose alone, to go after President Trump.
	Why?
	Because he's the man who's defeating the current incumbent in all the battleground states.
	He's the man who is apparently breaking the political plantation the left built for black votes for the last 70 years, with upwards of 28% of black Americans saying, we've had it, we're leaving the political plantation, we're voting for President Trump.
	Because the majority of Hispanic voters support the president?
	That's why?
	That's why this case has to be brought?
	And then we have the most dastardly aspect of all.
	President Trump has been saying correctly, these are what?
	Biden's trials.
	These are federal trials.
	Even if they're happening in Georgia, with Fannie Willis and Nathan Wade.
	Or even if they're happening in New York, with Judge Juan Merchan, with Letitia James, with Alvin Bragg.
	These are Biden's trials.
	And how dare, how dare Shannon Bream say yesterday, live on Fox, this has nothing to do with the federal government!
	Really?
	So is that why the White House visitor logs show multiple visits by Nathan Wade and Letitia James to the White House?
	What is Letitia James doing in the White House?
	Well, what is Nathan Wade?
	The guy that Fannie Willis is having sex with while they're both married, who's taking her on expensive holidays every month, and then being reimbursed in cash, quote-unquote.
	Know what I mean?
	You know, wink-wink, in cash.
	What's Nathan Wade doing in the Biden White House?
	And then most obvious of all, One of the chief prosecutors in the case, whose name is Colangelo, he was number three in Biden's Department of Justice.
	Third most powerful person in the federal law enforcement architecture.
	Suddenly takes a drastic pay cut, moves from federal government to be a line prosecutor for Alvin Bragg's team in New York.
	Why?
	Who does that?
	Nobody does that.
	That's a career killer.
	Well, unless you're on orders.
	By Joe Biden.
	Forget Joe Biden.
	It's not even Mary Garland.
	It's the real woman who's running the Department of Justice.
	It's Lisa Monaco.
	It's Obama's former counterterrorism czar.
	She tells Colangelo, hey, you're our guy on the inside.
	Go to New York.
	We'll make it up to you.
	These are Biden trials.
	4.51.
	Waiting to hear the verdict.
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	Alright, can't wait to get the legal eagles on the show in just a few minutes because I don't know if... Have we watched enough courtroom dramas, enough TV?
	If they've arrived...
	This could take hours, couldn't it?
	Jeff, what do you think?
	I mean, they've got the jury to decide, but there could be all kinds of formal stuff that they have to do right now before they read it.
	What do you think?
	What's your expectation?
	Are we going to be able to discuss this live on air?
	I think so.
	Because it's 34 counts and they've got to read off 34 counts each time saying guilty or innocent unless the whole thing is a mistrial.
	This could take ages, couldn't it?
	Yeah, but I don't think it's going to be a mistrial, unfortunately.
	I think it's done.
	You were pretty optimistic this morning.
	Eh, not really.
	I started thinking, I don't think you could have the one holdout because they're going to be worried.
	They know they're going to get identified.
	I think you need two or three more.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You need at least a couple to protect each other.
	And then the other thing that got me was Joe DiGenova.
	The day before the jury instructions, he said, this judge is so biased.
	He says, no one will be able to survive.
	He said, watch what he does with the jury instructions, how biased he'll make it.
	And then that's when we heard the next day that, oh, you can have four here, four there.
	So I'm not very optimistic.
	You mean the judge wouldn't allow them to bring that decision?
	Exactly.
	What are we feeling in our guts?
	Eric, what are you feeling?
	I'm thinking, again, Jeff's claim makes sense that, again, given that the fact that there's 34 charges, it's likely it could be a hung jury on most of them, but all they really need is one.
	It could be anywhere from like three to five guilties and the rest hung, I think.
	Alex, what does your marrow tell you?
	I don't want to jinx it.
	Wise man, wise man.
	Let's leave it at that.
	We're still waiting.
	We'll probably keep the lines open as well until we hear that verdict.
	We'll get Joe on.
	We'll see if Victoria's available.
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	Is this You
	You He is the only person who can replace the incumbent senile
	old man and we know that this judge is Working on behalf of the Democrats
	Why are you hiding this document, Judge Merchant?
	I'm gonna put it on the internet today.
	What are you hiding, Judge Merchant?
	That was me.
	Last week, outside the court, with a 30-page document the president's defense team had provided to me from the federal court system, the SDNY, Southern District of New York, listing all the crimes of the alleged star witness, Michael Cohen, a document the president's team wanted to submit in evidence, but which was suppressed by Judge Merchan.
	Why?
	Well, I think we know why.
	Judge Machan is back, seated in the court.
	A verdict has been reached.
	We are waiting for that verdict to be read by the foreman, by the officers of the court, until we know what it is.
	We have to analyze what we've witnessed for the last five weeks.
	None better to discuss than our good friend, Victoria Townsend.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Hi, Jeb.
	So, let's just look at it logically for a moment.
	What are the scenarios?
	What are the options?
	We have 34 counts, unbelievably.
	They can each be innocent.
	They can be found guilty or not guilty.
	And then there's the question of a hung jury, a mistrial.
	What are the various permutations that are possible before we actually hear what the final decision is?
	Well, it's not a hung jury, because they're back.
	And if it were a hung jury, they would be putting a note in saying, hey, judge, we can't reach a decision.
	And he would have to give them an Allen charge and all of that.
	That brouhaha has not been gone through.
	So it's either guilty or not guilty.
	And it's got to be on all counts.
	Because let me explain something, because I keep hearing people say, well, maybe he's guilty on some and not on others.
	No, no, no.
	What Bragg did was take one alleged crime, And make it into 34 different crimes every time some piece of paper was signed.
	It's the equivalent of, say, somebody goes in and robs Saks Fifth Avenue of $10,000 worth of goods.
	And so the prosecutor charges that person with stealing shoes.
	That's one count.
	Stealing a scarf.
	That's the second count.
	And so that's what Bragg did.
	It's unethical.
	It's called overcharging.
	Prosecutors are not supposed to do that.
	But what else is new in this case, really?
	So the jurors are going to find him either innocent or guilty.
	Breaking news.
	Breaking news.
	Count two.
	Count one.
	Count three.
	Guilty.
	I'm watching the TV screen right now.
	They're counting off the counts.
	We are count four.
	Guilty.
	I'm going to read these.
	All 34 will be guilty based upon that.
	Count five.
	Guilty.
	So what does this mean?
	Count six guilty.
	Is this man who has secret service protection, is he going to be taken into central booking?
	Will he be handcuffed right now?
	What can we expect, Victoria Tunsing?
	Well, you've got a nut for a judge.
	So you've got to tell me.
	I don't know what this judge is going to do.
	He shouldn't be under any of the process in New York City.
	I mean, people who are assaulting cops walk free on bond.
	So that's what should happen.
	And I have no idea.
	This judge, I can't believe he was so audacious as to put in a jury instruction that you didn't have to reach unanimity.
	That's so unconstitutional on its face, but he can get by with anything.
	Look.
	So we've never been here in the history of America.
	We've never been here, have we?
	No, we haven't.
	Never.
	And Gerald Ford saved us from it with Nixon with the pardon.
	And so here we are.
	And there's a little difference between a burglary in Watergate and lying about it.
	And some trumped up charge, so to speak, of a dead misdemeanor being made enlarged to a felony by who knows what, you know, I don't know.
	And here's another thing, Seb.
	As I understand it, the jury form didn't require the jurors to put down what that other crime was.
	Count 18.
	So how can they even evaluate it?
	Count 19.
	I'm just listing.
	I'm seeing it live as we speak.
	Unbelievable.
	This is history in the making as we speak.
	There is now the question what happens to the service, part of the Department of Homeland Security, the secret service that is mandated to protect presidents, former presidents and their families, that has the express mission to make sure that they are not in danger.
	How can they do that if this individual is put in holding?
	If this individual has to go to some kind of jail, either in New York City itself or part of the state system.
	Wow.
	All right, can we just hear some feed?
	Can we hear some feed live?
	Is that possible?
	Okay, go ahead.
	Stand by, Victoria.
	The decisions on objections, whether it was a decision not to let in certain witnesses that the defense wanted to call.
	All of the above.
	The verdict is a necessary and probable consequence of everything that happens up to that point.
	That includes jury selection.
	It includes evidentiary rulings.
	I was in the courtroom or the overflow room four different days.
	Shannon, it wasn't just the result of Judge Mershawn's rulings.
	The tone of his voice was different depending on which side was doing the objecting.
	So, you know, look, I said a week ago, juries usually get it right based on the information they're given.
	When you don't get to hear from an FEC expert, when you hear both proximity and propensity evidence against the defendant, and by that I mean he was close to two people who were guilty, therefore he must be guilty, and you hear salacious details with Stormy Daniels.
	I mean, I...
	I didn't ever think it was going to be an acquittal.
	Having been in the courtroom, I thought it might be a hung jury, 10 to 2, 11 to 1.
	But verdict is only the result of what you're given up until that point.
	So this is not a surprising result to me.
	Okay, so, Judge, I want to bring you in here.
	Obviously, an appeal takes time.
	It could be months.
	It could be years.
	Like Andy said, it may be a long time before that is resolved, however it is resolved.
	But what that leaves is this White House, the Biden-Harris campaign, free now to call President Trump a convicted felon.
	I got to say, though, over a year ago, when President Trump was asked, will you drop out of this race if convicted or not convicted, if indicted, he said, no, because I actually think it will help me in my poll numbers.
	They've done well in fundraising.
	He's done well in polling.
	Let's talk about what happens now in terms of that question of appeal, Victoria.
	Is there any precedent for accelerated appeal?
	Is there any role for the Supreme Court given that this is a state jurisdiction?
	Or is this something that can just be stretched out beyond November?
	I think it's going to have to go through the regular New York process.
	I can't imagine Don Roberts, the Chief Justice of our Supreme Court, does not like to get into tawdry politics, as he sort of seems to view it.
	So I can't imagine the Supreme Court stepping in.
	So it's going to have to go through the regular process.
	Which could take how long?
	Is there any realistic expectation?
	Months and months.
	And Sam, I have no faith in the judicial system at all in New York.
	The appellate court said it was just fine that Judge Marchand had a gag order on Donald Trump and not on anybody else.
	They refused to overrule that.
	So why would you have any confidence in this system?
	I don't.
	That's a very good question because you yourself and your husband Joe DiGenoa has been targeted by the Department of Justice to the tune of at least half a million dollars.
	You, Rudy Giuliani, we can mention my colleagues in the White House, Peter Navarro, we can mention Steve Bannon, on and on and on.
	This is a dark time we are living in.
	As the President said in that corridor every single day, this isn't about him.
	This is about all Americans.
	This is about 300 million Americans and about whether or not Lady Justice still wears a blindfold in America.
	We're talking to Victoria Tan Sing.
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	the guilty verdict coming from the trial in New York.
	Thank you.
	you you
	this was a rigged disgraceful trial The end.
	The real verdict is going to be November 5th by the people.
	And they know what happened here and everybody knows what happened here.
	You have a sole respect DA and the whole thing.
	We didn't do a thing wrong.
	I'm a very innocent man and it's okay.
	I'm fighting for our country.
	I'm fighting for our constitution.
	Our whole country is being rigged right now.
	This was done by the Biden administration.
	In order to wound or hurt an opponent, a political opponent.
	And I think it's just a disgrace.
	And we'll keep fighting.
	We'll fight till the end and we'll win.
	Because our country's gone to hell.
	We don't have the same country anymore.
	We have a divided mess.
	We're nation in decline, serious decline.
	Millions and millions of people pouring into our country right now from prisons and from mental institutions, terrorists.
	And they're taking over our country.
	We have a country that's in big trouble.
	But this was a rigged decision right from day one with a conflicted judge who should have never been allowed to try this case.
	Never.
	And we will fight for our constitution.
	This is long from over.
	Thank you very much.
	So I'm just going to ask a naive question from our guest, Victoria Tunsing.
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	Victoria, I apologize in advance for asking layman's questions, but President Trump was called back in court, the judge sat down, the guilty verdicts were read out for all 34 counts, and then we just heard him live walk out of the courtroom and give a press conference.
	How did that happen?
	I don't know.
	Is it a gag order?
	Are you talking about the... No, I mean, maybe I'm just going off, you know, TV procedurals, but if you're found guilty and the verdict has been read, are you just allowed to walk out free out of the court?
	Are we waiting for the sentencing?
	What's going on here?
	I know this is not a standard case, but is it strange for the defendant after he's been... Standard court.
	Is it strange for the defendant to walk out just after being found guilty by the jury and then to be speaking?
	Well, evidently said, maybe that's a sign that they're not going to lock him up.
	Well, that's what I'm asking.
	Here's what I always did as a prosecutor is I would stand up after a guilty verdict and say, I would like Bond issued, Your Honor, or I'd like him reprimanded.
	I think it would really be a problem if they tried to lock him up.
	I just can't imagine that.
	was. So evidently, the prosecutor did not do that and let it go. I don't know.
	So this is a good sign, potentially?
	Yeah, I think it would really be a problem if they tried to lock him up. I just can't
	imagine that it would be for a misdemeanor, an enhanced misdemeanor, when people who are
	hitting cops go free. I just think that, well, he would get reelected really fast.
	Yes, I think this has made him stronger than ever.
	We talked to Victoria Townsend.
	Please follow her at VicTunsing, the givesendgo is givesendgo.com slash the Jennifer Tunsing. Please stay there Victoria.
	Hello.
	I'd like to hear from our listeners as well to chime in with their reaction
	live as we hear what's happening out over New York. Let's go to San Jose
	Line 1, Rudy.
	Hello. Hey. Hey Gorka, you know what I I'm so frustrated.
	I think people should get a piece of paper if they don't have a Trump sign, put in big red letters, Trump 2024, tape it on their windshield, the back windshield of their car, right now and drive around showing our respect for him.
	I'm in California.
	I'm going to change his place.
	We're going to change his place to red.
	This is so unfair.
	How can we even go with this?
	I like it.
	I like it.
	You don't even have to get one of our yard signs, get a piece of paper, write Trump in big letters and stick it on the inside of your windscreen, inside of your rear window of your car or the side window.
	I love that.
	Thank you, Rudy, for telling us how we should react and how we should push back on this insanity.
	Let's go to Philadelphia, Mario.
	I have a message for New Yorkers.
	And it's me personally, and I hope everyone else that's concerned about the constitutionality of this country and the justice system.
	I mean, the vermin that are heading this country right now.
	I think we ought to starve these New Yorkers out.
	I think they're beyond rehabilitation.
	I think don't go see their goofy plays, their operas, their movies.
	Just don't go to New York, America.
	Don't do it.
	They're not worth it.
	They're too dumb to be rehabbed and they're probably bordering on criminality.
	I have no idea.
	I can't even fathom even putting myself in their place.
	You don't know right from wrong.
	You don't deserve our support.
	You deserve to be isolated.
	Yeah.
	Punished New York?
	Well, many, many patriots have escaped that city in the last few years.
	Thank you, Mario.
	But back to the details of the case.
	As you said, Victoria, these are misdemeanors that have expired according to the statute of limitations.
	They've been connected to some kind of felony, perversion of the election, even though the Federal Elections Commission said there was no crime.
	Do you have any idea, based upon what you've seen in the last five months, what kind of penalty, what kind of prison time, what kind of fines we could be talking about?
	No, I have no idea.
	But I'll just say, Seb, just look at this.
	How can it possibly be that an entry made in 2017 affected An election that occurred in 2016.
	I mean, right there on its face, that shouldn't have gotten out the door, the prosecutor's office, and it shouldn't have gotten into the door of any judge, any decent judge's chambers.
	It should be on its face, it's ridiculous.
	How do you affect an election that has already gone by?
	Yeah, this is a detail of the case that is missed by so many, that the bookkeeping, the entry, the categorization of that payment happened after the election, in the January after the election.
	So how can you Pervert the course of an election with an act that occurred after the election.
	It beggars belief.
	It makes no sense.
	And I think most Americans will see through it.
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	You You
	Is your husband still hostage next door?
	We.
	Yes, he is in the other room.
	Are you going to be at your Rudy's birthday party tomorrow?
	No, we can't make it.
	We're having guests in town, so we can't make it.
	We're so sorry.
	But I hate to go to New York anyway.
	If it were in Miami, I'd be there.
	Yeah, I was going to try and make it, but I don't think I can.
	It's going to be tough.
	Here's one thing to consider, Seb.
	Are we on the air or not?
	We're on Rumble.
	Yeah, we're broadcasting on the video feed.
	Consider whether these jurors made this guilty decision because they were fearful to do otherwise.
	Yeah, no, we've discussed that with Jeff.
	Let's talk about that.
	That's fascinating.
	Good, good, good, good.
	All right.
	What else have we got?
	Can you come in with Retribution or can you find it, guys?
	Let me find it.
	I know we still have that in the files.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And Jeff, can you find that I'm doing this for 300 million for the next segment?
	Who is that, Trump?
	Yes.
	Mic's off.
	Mike's phone.
	you you
	you have retribution you want to come in with it
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Was that good morning, Britain?
	Uh, no no no no, GB News, The Conservatives.
	Oh boy.
	I like when they call me at 3 in the morning, like, to see if you can come on, like it's a normal thing.
	They call you?
	I don't know how they got my number, they call me all the time.
	Are you kidding?
	I wake up, hi, this is Lachlan, I just start screaming.
	Usually Jeff's the one who finds out people's phone numbers.
	But I thought you never sleep, Jeff?
	That was before when I used to sleep.
	My, how the turns have tabled.
	Alright, 40 seconds.
	Is the 300 million, is that when he said he would They could have put him in jail or something.
	Was that the same cut or no?
	Oh, actually, do that.
	I'm prepared to make that sacrifice.
	That would be perfect.
	And coming in with retribution.
	30 seconds.
	Music.
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	That line from the CPAC speech, Victoria dancing the retribution line, is about what has happened
	to the legal system in America, whether you're a 72-year-old grandmother who gets a custodial
	sentenced for praying inside Congress on January the 6th or whether you're
	My colleague Peter Navarro who's rotting in a Florida prison right now because he had utter contempt as was justified for the illegal January 6th committee run by Nancy Pelosi.
	So you know better than most because of what they've done to you.
	Can I read you a question from one of our fans in Canada?
	You know who you are.
	She just texted me.
	Will this go to the Supreme Court?
	I said not before the election and she said not even in an emergency motion like Gore versus Bush.
	My understanding is that the Supreme Court has to be the last instance.
	You have to go through the appeals process of the state of the jurisdiction when all of that has been gone through and you're not satisfied.
	Then you can go to the Supreme Court.
	Can you talk to this from your perspective as a legal professional?
	Sure.
	Well, Bush versus Gore was a federal case.
	I mean, it wasn't a state case.
	So it started out on the federal level as a federal issue.
	And the urgency that arose was that a new president had to be sworn in within weeks of the decision.
	I said, Justice Scalia Tonino, who was a good friend, I said, you all decided Bush versus Gore just to put us all out of our misery, didn't you?
	And he said, yes.
	Because any way you played it out, whether it went to Congress or whether it went back to the Florida legislature, Bush was going to win.
	And so the Supreme Court, they just acted on it to stop all that stuff.
	That's what happened.
	And this case isn't like this.
	This is a state case, so it's going to have to go through New York procedures.
	But as you said previously, given what we've witnessed in New York of late, we should have zero faith or as much faith in the appellate court in New York as we should have of this acting judge, Juana Merchan, in the first instance?
	That's how I feel about it.
	The only way that I see it going to the Supreme Court is if The New York courts deny any appeal as they keep affirming.
	And it may go to the Supreme Court on the issue of the jury instructions.
	I mean, the Supreme Court just decided a case in 2020 applying a unanimous jury to the states because Oregon and Louisiana did not have unanimous juries.
	And they had great language in there.
	They quoted Blackstone from the 18th century saying, No person should ever be convicted of a crime, or of any allegation, any allegation, it said, any accusation, was the words, unless by a unanimous jury of his peers, of his equals, is the words Blackstone used.
	But I mean, what a quote!
	And how does that apply here?
	Because there had to be no unanimity for the important crime That made this dead misdemeanor come alive as a felony.
	And so it is possible that they could even refuse an appeal in New York?
	They could affirm.
	They'll take the appeal, but they would affirm the conviction and ignore these constitutional issues.
	I mean, just starting with Bragg targeting Trump.
	And then charging a case that was overcharged, as I talked about earlier.
	And then the judge not recusing himself, putting a gag order on Trump and no one else, allowing Stormy Daniels to talk about sex, but not allow the FEC experts to talk about election law, but allowing Michael Cohen to opine on election law.
	I mean, all these things.
	There's just so many issues.
	It's a feast!
	If I wrote a law school exam for this, you know, I'd flunk anybody that didn't find 15 constitutional and reversible errors.
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	We didn't get to in the last one, and then I'll take a call as well.
	What?
	You mean about the fearful?
	Yeah, let's unpack that.
	That's a great point.
	Where is Joe?
	He's in the other room.
	He's in the office.
	I'm doing newscasts.
	Well, go grab him.
	Get one of those, you know, big hooks and just pull him off stage.
	I hear him talking in the other room, so... This background is not the complete ideal setup.
	It's not bad.
	At least it's nice and bright.
	It's nice and bright.
	This is insanity.
	Really is.
	Sean Davis had a pretty good tweet.
	I'll send it to you.
	Yeah, please.
	Okay.
	Oh, Jeff says to get the top cut.
	I assume it's the... Guys, stay here, all right?
	I've got to do a hit for the UK at the top of the hour.
	Got it.
	America first, kiddo.
	Oh yeah.
	What did you want to say?
	This is Sean's tweet.
	I think it's the best one I've seen so far.
	Okay, and I'm getting the Trump cut now.
	Oh, come in with that cut.
	Okay.
	Yes, sir.
	Yep, got it.
	It's 30 seconds long.
	One minute.
	That was a great call.
	I don't know if you guys are aware that Trump was found guilty.
	He's being serious, too.
	Wow, wow, wow.
	He just heard it on his ham radio.
	It must be one of the stations, though, that were on delay.
	Um, Waleed texted me for some reason he doesn't want that hour to air until June 13th or 14th, so tell him he can relax.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	I guess there's something happening.
	Alright, I'll just file it away in the archives for now.
	20 seconds.
	Music.
	And then you have the other thing that maybe is even more disgraceful is the gag line.
	you Where I can't basically, I have to watch every word I tell you people.
	You ask me a question, a simple question, I'd like to give it, but I can't talk about it.
	Because this judge has given me a gag order and said you'll go to jail if you violate it.
	And frankly, you know what?
	Our Constitution is much more important than jail.
	It's not even close.
	I'll do that sacrifice any day.
	An amazing quote from the president struck me when he said it, I'll go to, I'll go to prison any day.
	I'll make that sacrifice.
	I'm smiling, not because of what the president said, although it did warm my heart, but because, well, you'll see in a moment.
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	We've just received from our colleague Eric a tweet from our buddy Sean Davis, one of
	our most astute commentators out in the world.
	Let me just read to you from the co-founder of The Federalist.
	In 2016, the presidential race was decided based on candidates releasing lists of potential Supreme Court nominees.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, in part.
	In 2024, I want to see lists of which Democrat officials are going to be put in prison.
	This is what happens when you cross the Rubicon.
	I know it's a hard get, Jeff, but let's get Sean back on the show, because I like the cut of his jib.
	I do like Sean Davis.
	Why am I smiling?
	Because the dynamic duo is now reinstated.
	It's not just Victoria Tunsing.
	It's the chap with the rather Italianate name, Joe DiGenoa.
	You've been released by my colleagues at Newsmax.
	Welcome, I think, back to America First.
	Thank you very much, Seb.
	It's great to be with you on this horrific day.
	So is this what you expected?
	I thought I was going to split the parson's egg, do the Gordian Knot thing, and they do this kind of mealy mouth.
	Well, he's guilty of three things and then the rest not.
	But 34 counts, Joe, this is insanity.
	Well, I predicted this, Seb.
	I said he was going to be found guilty.
	And the reason is very simple.
	The process by which this case came to the fore.
	is really horrendous.
	Once you saw the indictment and the way the charges were made, and once you saw the way the judge conducted the trial, didn't allow evidence for the defense in, and once you saw the way he allowed closing arguments to be done and the jury instructions, which were basically a directed verdict of guilty, this was going to be the result.
	And shame on the state of New York, shame on the New York judicial system, and the American people should rise up in anger And elect Donald Trump president on November 5th.
	Will you explain what it was about those instructions from Juan Merchan, who illegally gave a donation to the Biden campaign?
	What was it that made this a directed verdict of guilty?
	Could you explain for our listeners?
	No, no, no.
	They didn't have to be unanimous.
	That was it.
	It didn't have to be unanimous.
	They could decide which crime was the extra crime that made a misdemeanor felony.
	And even Trump did not know what those crimes were until after the prosecution made its argument.
	So, Joe, is it that aspect of the smorgasbord, the buffet of you can decide these are guilty and then I'll call it unanimous?
	Was that the most crippling aspect of this?
	Well, I don't think there's any doubt that that was, in fact, the single most crippling thing.
	In addition, what we can't forget is that he did not allow them to introduce evidence
	that would have helped the jury understand.
	He didn't allow them, for example, to know that nondisclosure agreements are not illegal.
	Okay, hang on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Footage right now.
	President Trump has left the courtroom in his secret service detail.
	President Trump is a free man.
	He is returning back to his abode.
	So, for those of you out there who wanted to know what has happened to him, he is in his security service entourage in his motorcade as we speak.
	Sorry, Joe, carry on.
	No, but I mean, one of the things that's important is that it was the cumulative effect of all of the actions of the judge in this case, from the charging document, to the way he conducted the trial, to the limitations on the evidence that the defense was allowed, to the limitations on closing argument, and then the jury instructions themselves, which were designed purposely to make the jury feel that they had to convict The president.
	And there's no doubt when you look at these, it's very difficult to explain this to people who have never read jury instructions before.
	But these jury instructions were tantamount to a directed verdict of guilty.
	They violated the president's Fifth Amendment right, his Sixth Amendment right.
	And I have no doubt that on appeal, assuming there is some sanity left in the New York judicial system, this case will be reversed.
	But it will be too late.
	It will be after the election.
	The Democrats have accomplished what they wanted to do, which was to label him a convicted criminal.
	And that is what I think will anger the American people, knowing that that was the purpose of this.
	Not the doing of justice, but the destruction of a human being.
	We do have Antoinette still on the line.
	We'll squeeze her in before this hour is up.
	But I wanted to talk about, we've got a minute in this segment, Victoria, this idea that if you want it to be the one holdout of the 12, the level of intimidation must have been enormous just to go with the pack, no?
	Yeah, people say you only need one, and Joe and I always say, no, you need two.
	Two people that need to prop each other up.
	But, you know, Seb, I say this from experience.
	When we worked on the 2020 post-election with Rudy, there was intimidation all over the place against the lawyers who did anything for Trump.
	We were met with bar complaints.
	We were met with anything.
	Young lawyers would want to work for us, and then they'd call back and say, I'm sorry, I've seen your partner said, I can't do it.
	So this intimidation, permeates our country.
	It's not just Donald Trump as he says, I'm here for you.
	So I can imagine jurors would be afraid.
	All right, I'm going to ask you one question.
	I never do this.
	I never give a warning in advance to my subjects about what I'm going to ask you, not even President Trump.
	But it's one of those days.
	I'm going to break the rules.
	If they can break the rules, so can I. I'm going to ask you, in our last segment, what you think, no, what this day has done to you personally.
	I want Joe and Victoria, after we talk to Antoinette, to give us your conclusions For what this means to you, because you are so close to us here at America First.
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	No bail.
	Yeah, mean letting them out.
	Oh, okay.
	And then the sentencing is when?
	July 11th, which just happens to be right before the convention.
	Right before the convention.
	Okay.
	July 11th.
	Total coincidence, I'm sure.
	Freakin' Aida.
	Mic's are hot.
	90 seconds.
	Oh wow, it's already the final segment.
	Hey, we're not here.
	What?
	We got you.
	We got you.
	Can you see?
	We're not seeing anything.
	Well, we can't see you as long as you can see us.
	Oh, yeah.
	Do the two-shot, guys.
	Good work.
	You can't see us?
	Not there.
	OK.
	We can't see you on our screen.
	All right, just squeeze over.
	Bunch up next to your lovely wife.
	All right, good.
	OK, good.
	One minute.
	Probably just picked up 34 electoral votes today.
	Ha ha ha!
	I like that.
	Can you tell Antoine that?
	She's got to be super quick, alright?
	Because we've only got three minutes total.
	Okay.
	What do you call it?
	It's not a convoy, it's a...
	...
	America First, MAGA-nificent!
	The republic is at stake.
	Tell the world you are America first.
	The yard sign, the t-shirt, the mug.
	Draw it by hand.
	I don't care, like our caller said.
	But you can get yours at SebGorkaStore.com.
	That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A-Store.com.
	And you can support him directly at DonaldJTrump.com.
	Alright, gotta squeeze a lot into the last three minutes.
	Antoinette, California, great friend of the show.
	Dr. G, I wasn't going to call in.
	I knew just something in my heart.
	But just know that we are praying for our president.
	We knew they were corrupt, but we didn't realize the outrageousness of these individuals.
	All these Democrats, they're evil.
	We bless our Lord to protect President Trump.
	And he's actually in a safe place.
	He'll be protected more than he's wherever he's at.
	And if we need to be in jail with him, we will be in jail with him.
	But we're going to come out with our Trump flag.
	Okay.
	And Trump here in California.
	Thank you!
	Thank you.
	God bless.
	President Trump has been let out.
	He's in his convoy back to his home.
	The sentencing will occur in July, so no bail right now.
	Two and a half minutes left.
	No better guest to talk to today than Victoria Tansing and Joe DiGenova.
	Given all you've been through, given your background in the law, in D.C., at the Department of Justice, in the Senate, what does this me day mean for you personally?
	Let's start with you, Victoria.
	Seb, this day isn't different from any other days because it's a continuum of the last three years of the Justice Department.
	Joe's in my home.
	We loved it.
	It's a continuum of our judicial, our legal system going to hell in a handbasket.
	And if we don't get the presidency back in November, it's just going to continue.
	Joe, what does this day mean for you?
	This is actually a day of really great sadness.
	Sadness for the country.
	Sadness for America, for the legal system.
	A complete disappointment in the people of the state of New York, the judicial process in the state of New York.
	To see that type of corruption play out, masquerading as the rule of law, when in fact it is anything but.
	But what it does mean is it means we're going to redouble our efforts to help make Donald Trump the next President of the United States.
	Now more than ever, there is no question, as our caller said half an hour ago, just get a piece of paper, in big letters, write the word Trump and stick it on the inside of your car window, the back side, the sides.
	Tell the world, you're not having it.
	We want America back.
	It's up to us.
	We need, we need to follow the example of President Trump.

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