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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: General Mike Flynn: Why the Deep State took me out

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	This is a made-up crime.
	No other American in the country would be charged with this type of crime.
	It's like the Mr. Potato Head doll of crimes, where they had to stick together a bunch of things that did not belong together.
	He does have a way with words, Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida, outside the Manhattan court.
	It is a farrago, it is a circus, it is the Mr. Potato Head of Crimes, stitching things together and hopefully the American people will see through it.
	Welcome dear friends, I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is American First, the next three hours are going to rock your world.
	Do not go anywhere from our first guest, One of the only senators we allow on this show.
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	Who better to talk to about what is happening in America than a fearless fighter for all Americans, especially for the youth of America, Tennessee's very own Senator Marsha Blackburn.
	Senator Blackburn, welcome back to America First.
	I am delighted to join you, as always.
	Thank you so much.
	Well, we have so much to discuss with you, especially a bill that's going to protect our children across the nation.
	Before we get to that, could you comment kindly on what we're witnessing happen in that Manhattan courtroom, Senator?
	Well, this is just such a miscarriage of justice.
	And we know it is a political prosecution of President Donald Trump.
	Alvin Bragg is trying to make up a crime.
	Michael Cohen is proving to be the liar that he has been known to be, and I think that what you're going to see is the American people are watching this very closely, and they are beginning to comment about this in very public ways.
	They see this as the embodiment is two tiers of justice.
	And they have witnessed this, is they've looked at how Hillary Clinton was treated, and then Donald Trump was treated, how Hunter Biden was treated, how the Trumps were treated.
	They have seen this when it came to looking for records classified documents, and the way President Biden was treated, as opposed to how President Trump was treated.
	And people are saying, hey, wait a minute, this is not right.
	We don't appreciate the way this is being carried out.
	And I talk to people every day who are not only Republicans, but Democrats and Independents.
	And they are going to be voting for President Donald Trump because they are sick of this, this two tiers of justice, that wide open border, inflation that is through the roof.
	And they're saying, hey, wait a minute, this is not right.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I want to discuss the bill, the Children's Online Safety Act, that you championed and that you discussed when we were together at the NRB conference in Nashville recently.
	But I have to share with you this, because it's not just about protecting our children online.
	My producer, Jeff, found this, and I find it absolutely unbelievable that this is going out on our televisions across America.
	Jeff, what is this?
	This is for an upcoming documentary on what, NBC?
	Is that right?
	Yeah, it's done by NBC.
	I think it's gonna be on Peacock, too.
	Okay, so please listen to this, Senator.
	This is a real program.
	This is the commercial for an upcoming documentary.
	Play 16.
	The paparazzi really are everywhere.
	Everything you were taught as a kid is wrong.
	Gay penguins.
	Bisexual lions.
	Sex-changing clownfish.
	This is a queer planet.
	Queerness has always existed.
	It's only in humans that we have such a stigma about it.
	The idea of just having two fixed sexes is clearly out of style.
	Mother Nature is pretty open-minded.
	Sex is not just a reproduction.
	It's clear that no matter where you look on our planet, nature is full of queer surprises.
	To be honest, we should all probably get laid a little more than we do.
	New documentary from Peacock, Queer Planet.
	What can we do to protect our children, Senator?
	Well, one of the things that we know, and you mentioned the Report Act that has just been signed into law, it was fully bipartisan, every member of the House and Senate.
	And this deals with child exploitative material, trafficking material that is in the virtual space.
	And the legislation that we have passed requires social media platforms when there are people that are grooming kids online, trafficking, or displaying child sexual material abusive material, exploitative material,
	then those social media platforms are going to have to block them.
	They're going to have to take them down.
	They're going to have to report them to the NCMEC cyber tip line.
	And then the legislation also allows NCMEC to hold that information for up to one year.
	Right now they can only hold it for 90 days and we know from law enforcement that that's not enough time to get these pedophiles and predators into court for them to have these trials.
	So we will allow them to hold that information for longer to transfer it to the prosecutors over the internet and social media would have to report this because you know the goal is to move this activity in the virtual space out of the virtual space to get these pedophiles locked up and get them away from our children.
	And what is the status?
	Because I know this was something you were still discussing when we were back in Nashville.
	Has it been signed by the president?
	What is the status?
	The Report Act has been signed by the president.
	And then we have the Kids Online Safety Act that we also discussed in Nashville.
	And this puts that burden of safety by design so that children are not going to be exposed to pornography, to abusive material.
	And these social media platforms are going to have to open up those algorithms so that parents and kids can open those and then be able to avoid coming in contact with material that pushes eating disorders or puts them in contact with groomers and sex traffickers, things of that nature.
	We only have a few seconds left.
	What is your position on the move to force the sale of TikTok?
	Because many conservatives say if you force the sale from China to an American company, it could be just as left-wing and dangerous if it was a woke CEO here in America.
	What's your position on TikTok, Senator?
	You know, I think that TikTok should be removed from governance by the Chinese Communist Party.
	And then that algorithm and the data collection separated from ByteDance, which part of the governance of ByteDance is by the Chinese Communist Party.
	See, TikTok is a spyware platform.
	That's what makes it so dangerous.
	And the information of American citizens is held, not in the U.S., it is held In Beijing, China, and what the Chinese Communist Party is doing is building a virtual you.
	Because when TikTok is on your phone, they follow every app, every relationship, every key that you hit.
	They know that.
	Congratulations on the Report Act.
	We have been talking to Senator Marsha Blackburn, author of The Mind of a Conservative Woman.
	You can follow her, Marsha Blackburn, on Twitter, blackburn.senate.gov.
	God bless you for protecting America's children.
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	And so much more to discuss, including General Flynn for a whole hour.
	I know I had Blackburn's cell.
	Where is it?
	What do you need?
	No, hang on.
	We've got to do Cassio first.
	Cassio first.
	So, do-do-do-do-do... Have them on Skype already.
	Umm...
	Mic's are on.
	Matt, can I get a quick mic check from you please?
	Can you hear me?
	One, two.
	Testing, one, two.
	Yep, we got you.
	Thank you.
	Thirteen seconds is too short for a clip, right, Jeff?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	Five.
	What does a self-hating American Jew look like?
	Question mark.
	Just listen to Congressman Jared Moskowitz.
	Calling the man who has betrayed Israel a champion for the Jewish people.
	I'll put that last part in quotes.
	6.
	Ivar and Sandro...
	even foxes at Sandra Smith burst out laughing when she asked Obama's economic expert, expert in quotes,
	what inflation was when Biden took over.
	Is there anyone more despicable than at Mitt Romney?
	Which one?
	Seven.
	Okay.
	Anyone more despicable than at Mitt Romney, question mark?
	His regular account or the Pierre Delecto?
	Here he is saying supporting the leader of the opposition is embarrassing.
	No, Mittens.
	You're an embarrassment to Utah and the LDS.
	Nine.
	That's too short.
	Nine's too short.
	Thirteen.
	This complete lunatic is Professor Tiffany Willoughby of UC Irvine.
	These are the people brainwashing America's children.
	Mr. Boyle!
	Dr. G, how are you, sir?
	Good, good, good, good, good, good.
	You don't have a headset with a mic in it, do you?
	No, I don't.
	Okay, all right, we'll have to send you one.
	Come in with... Matt Gaetz.
	We did that already.
	Come in with 12.
	Bobert, yep.
	Yep.
	All right, 30 seconds.
	And then I want B-roll of yesterday when we had the speaker and everybody else.
	Yeah.
	The radical left wants President Trump to simply go away.
	And if President Trump just went away, this would all go away as well.
	They do not want him to be in this race.
	They know that he is the number one candidate for President of the United States for the 2024 election, and they are doing everything that they can to interfere in yet another election.
	Well, I got news for the radical left and the weaponized DOJ.
	President Trump is not going anywhere.
	He's coming back for another four years.
	And we are not going anywhere either.
	We are here to stand with him as he stands up for you, the American people.
	Lauren Bobert outside the courtroom in Manhattan.
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	I presume, given that he is the Washington Bureau Chief for that MAGA powerhouse that is Breitbart, that our next guest, Matt Boyle, was also happy to see Republicans outside the courtroom.
	Matt Boyle, welcome back to America First.
	Yeah, Dr. G, always a pleasure.
	Great to be here.
	So, it took long enough, but wasn't it good to see the Speaker of the House, Corey Mills, JD Vance, Vivek Ramaswamy, Governor Burgum, finally actually go to that political persecution site?
	Yeah, well look, I think that J.D.
	Vance started it all earlier this week, and there's a reason why I think he's the frontrunner right now for the VP pick, and the reason why is because J.D.
	Vance kicked everything off by going there on Monday, and then all these other people copied him for whatever reason they may have on Tuesday and throughout the rest of the week, because J.D.
	Vance drew massive attention to the whole thing.
	It's good to see the Republicans actually fighting back, don't get me wrong, but the fact is that I don't think Speaker Johnson is genuine at all.
	I think that he's just trying to glom onto President Trump to try to rectify his serious problems with the Republican base because he's only Speaker of the House because the Democrats allow it right now.
	He doesn't have enough Republican votes.
	To be Speaker of the House, we know that because MTG called the motion a vacay and he failed, right?
	Like, only succeeded because the Democrats bailed him out.
	So, like, you've got that going on, and then you've got, you know, Burgum and others are trying to get to the VP nod as well.
	Look, there's some interesting people in the mix for VP, but I do think that JD Vance started this whole thing off and really flipped the script here.
	And this is a big part of why I think JD Vance is emerging And the left seems to be in big trouble.
	This is a stunning, stunning clip from MSNBC that filmed a focus group in Georgia of all places, and I don't think they got the answers they were expecting, Matt.
	Cut 14.
	Were they being impacted by this trial?
	Are they paying close attention?
	And what impact might a guilty verdict have on their decision to support the former president?
	Here's what they told me.
	Take a look.
	Do each of you support Donald Trump?
	I do.
	Yes.
	For all three of you?
	Yes.
	Has this trial changed your opinion, even caused you to waver or question that at all?
	No, it's actually caused me to support him more.
	I just don't believe that's a coincidence that we have a trial happening in Atlanta.
	We have one happening in New York.
	So the question people are beginning to ask themselves, like I did, is like, why now?
	It's pretty much everybody says they're picking on him.
	You know, people are tired of going after him, and you see it in so many areas.
	It's really not a big issue in the party.
	Actually, they're really making everybody mad, and they look at a big bully, and the government is the bully.
	This is going to be your first time casting a ballot.
	What is it for you?
	He still hasn't given up.
	He keeps fighting to do what's right.
	I've talked to many people who formally identified as a Democrat.
	They have changed their political persuasion to independent, and they are looking forward to voting for Trump.
	Because now they find something in common with a political candidate at that level.
	When you say they find commonality, what is that commonality?
	They have felt persecuted by the system of American injustice.
	And it's not a stretch for them to think that Trump may be a victim as well.
	People see that there's some kind of commonality between himself and maybe all the black men that have been incarcerated and the families that have been impacted by black male incarceration.
	So Matt, it's not just rallies in New Jersey with 100,000 patriots.
	It's voters in Georgia, Democrats, who are saying even if they convict him, it just looks more obvious they're persecuting him.
	Yeah, look, I don't think it's any coincidence that this week, all of a sudden, after months of refusing to say, Joe Biden and his campaign finally agreed to debates with President Trump.
	And they scheduled them for pretty early, right?
	Like, the first one is going to be in June.
	It's going to be just weeks away, right?
	Like, so it's less than two months away.
	It's six weeks out from now.
	And why would Joe Biden agree to that as a sitting president of the United States to agree his predecessor and challenger?
	I think the reason why is because he's seeing the same thing that we're seeing there in that panel that we're seeing in the polling data that we're seeing across the board from around the country.
	And it's not just in Georgia.
	It's in Nevada.
	It's in Arizona.
	It's in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, everywhere.
	And I think the Democrats are in serious trouble right now.
	But that being said, again, Republicans need to not take anything for granted right now.
	They need to keep fighting as hard and as aggressive as they can.
	And my message to President Trump would be very simple and very clear.
	Beware the GOP establishment.
	Beware the Ides of October.
	These people in the GOP establishment are snakes and they would stab him in the back in a heartbeat.
	To save themselves and it's important that he remembers that as we go into this general election
	I get it that the party's got a unified people got to get together and focus on the general election
	But the the stuff with Johnson and some of these other characters has me a little bit hurt
	And I think President Trump needs to be wary of these people while he continues to focus on the mission ahead
	Well, one of the biggest snakes said something that we are going to show you a clip of in the next segment
	That really goes to your point about President Trump having to be very very very cautious with the establishment
	We're talking to Breitbart.com's Washington Bureau Chief.
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	We'll be back with Matt in a moment.
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	All right, I'm gonna play a cut for you from Mitt Romney, and then we'll have some fun.
	Okay, sounds great.
	All right, can you play me cut 10 guys and the full cut 11?
	Michael Cohen is the most compromised, unbelievable witness in the history of the federal legal system.
	That's hardly news.
	What we saw in his cross-examination was an evasive and rehearsed set of answers, and he's going to likely continue that Tomorrow.
	But here you have his own lawyer now saying that what he said on the stand is diametrically opposed to what he told him in an attorney-client confidential setting.
	Would you tell me today, can you commit here today, that your department will not withhold federal funding from hospitals or doctors who refuse to provide The gender-affirming care that you are mandating.
	If it violates their religious beliefs.
	So now, Congresswoman, I recognize you're going somewhere completely different.
	First you started talking about how a doctor should have the rights to not offer particular care.
	Then you stretched it out to provide for the system-wide services.
	Yes, you've put out this guidance.
	Very different.
	You've put out this guidance and doctors do need to know what are you going to do if they refuse to provide this care.
	A doctor, if that doctor has religious objections, that doctor, under these rules, is not required to offer the care.
	Okay, so you're committing here today that you will not withhold federal funding.
	Doctors don't get federal funding, ma'am.
	But the hospitals do.
	Okay, so now talk to me about the hospitals.
	Don't confuse the two.
	Okay.
	A doctor is not a hospital.
	But the doctors are working in these hospitals.
	Are you going to say, today, are you committing that you will not withhold federal funding from those healthcare facilities?
	If a healthcare facility is violating the law and not providing the service they're required to, they are not entitled to the resources.
	We knew that you would withdraw federal funding.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Maybe we should get her back.
	40.
	Titles.
	Uh, yes.
	Senator Ann Forklow.
	Senator Blackburn.
	Protecting our children from the groomers and perverts.
	Groomers and perverts.
	And Chris.
	Chris...
	Hmm...
	Why this movie didn't entertain me.
	And I thought everyone loved Gladiator.
	Heh heh heh.
	You know too about that sequel?
	Like, they've announced who's gonna be in the sequel.
	Oh, who?
	Pedro Pascal is one of them.
	Oh, of course.
	Of course, like, Flavor of the Month.
	I'm so sick of these Flavor of the Month actors.
	Annoying.
	Do you know anything else about it?
	Uh, no.
	No, I think Ridley Scott's directing it again, isn't he?
	Thanks for watching!
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	I think that it's pretty clear to us that this is a sham trial.
	It's being done for political purposes and that you should not stand in the United States of America.
	God bless Andy Biggs and all the other patriots who are standing shoulder-to-shoulder with President Trump at that outrageous farrago, that circus that is the Manhattan courtroom, and the persecution of President Trump.
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	We're back with the Washington Bureau Chief for the Concerned Drug North, that is brightbart.com.
	Follow him right now on Truth Social at Real Matt Boyle.
	Matt, you mentioned very, you know, kind of looked at the camera and you said, I've got a message for President Trump.
	You've got to be careful with the Republican establishment.
	I agree, especially as long as there are people like this around.
	Listen to what Mitt Romney said, Matt, concerning those people who are supporting the leader of the opposition in Manhattan.
	I think it's a little demeaning to show up in front of a courthouse, particularly one where we're talking about an allegation of paying a porn star.
	Really very difficult to watch.
	Why is it difficult to watch?
	Well, you know, there is a level of dignity and decorum that you expect of people who are running for the highest station in the land and going out and prostrating themselves in front of the public to try and apparently curry favor with the person who's our nominee.
	It's a little embarrassing.
	It's a little embarrassing, Matt, to try and curry favour with President Trump in public.
	But when you're at Bedminster, doing it in private, sitting with President Trump and begging to be a member of his cabinet, I guess that's okay, Matt.
	Yeah, look, I have a message for Mitt Romney, too.
	Mitt Romney will never be President of the United States.
	I don't know how many times did he run for President, Seb?
	I think it was like, what, two, three times?
	He lost to Obama!
	Yeah, he lost to Obama.
	That's an election that was eminently winnable.
	It should have been won, but it wasn't because he's a loser, right?
	Like Mitt Romney's a total loser.
	So my message to Mitt Romney is you're a loser.
	You'll never be president.
	The only reason you're in the U.S.
	Senate is because you literally carpetbagged your way into Utah from Massachusetts.
	But the fact is that this illustrates the point here very succinctly.
	A number of establishment Republicans are going to go out there and say they support Trump.
	They're not going to do what Romney's doing, where he's like deliberately undercutting Trump and saying he's backing the other side.
	But Trump needs to be wary of those people the most, right?
	Like these establishment Republicans who were not with him from the get-go, who had to be drug along to endorse him, etc.
	That's the thing that I think is the most dangerous here.
	What'll happen is, is that if you remember back in 2016 when Access Hollywood happened and whatnot, the Billy Bush tape comes out, then Paul Ryan unendorses Trump and tries to stab him in the back.
	I think a similar moment will happen at some point or another in the fall where you will see a contentious moment.
	You think the left is just gonna give us our country back?
	Heck no, right?
	They're gonna make us fight for it.
	And the fact is, is that when that contentious moment happens, Weak people like Mike Johnson will stab Trump in the back, and he needs to be ready for this, and he needs to be aware of it, and he needs to not trust them.
	Now, I get it.
	Trump doesn't need to be the guy out there sticking a knife in Johnson's bag either.
	Right?
	Like, Trump's going to focus on winning his race, but he needs to be wary of these establishment
	Republicans.
	Again, beware the odds of October, right?
	This is how republics fall.
	This is what they did to Caesar.
	You know, beware the odds of March, right?
	Like, quote from the Shakespeare play.
	Trump needs to be very careful and on guard around these people, because they don't want
	him to win no matter what they say.
	We've only got less than 30 seconds left, but it would be remiss of me not to ask you.
	The decision to debate President Trump, are they throwing Joe under the bus?
	What's your take on the debate question?
	Possible, but we'll see how it goes.
	I think they deliberately lower the expectations for Biden, and then he always meets the lowered expectations.
	So that being said, I think it'll be a bad night for for Biden, a great night for Trump.
	But that being said, I don't know.
	The train may have already left the station in that regard.
	I don't know if it would be very difficult for them to throw him away at the convention.
	Follow him right now on Truth Social at Real Matt Boyle.
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	Like, where did that come from?
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	Remember, he talked about like, oh, he has a coalition.
	I know, but before that, I mean, suddenly, last three weeks, he just like, I hate this man.
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	Alright, let's go straight to calls.
	I just think he's a terrible...
	I just think he's weak.
	Nice guy, but weak.
	Yeah.
	Terrible situation to be in.
	He wasn't even planning to be on it.
	No!
	That's the other thing.
	Right.
	The way I see it is that he's the best Republican speaker since Gingrich, because pretty much
	since Gingrich, it's been consistently like, terrible speakers who get slightly better.
	Hassler, then Boehner, then Ryan.
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	That one.
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	Okay.
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	Yeah, for Boyle.
	President Trump, beware the Ides of October.
	I like that.
	I do like that phrase.
	If there is a moment like that, DeSantis is going to be waning in the wings.
	That's why he's trying to do these press conferences every day again, putting himself... He is?
	It's been for a month straight now.
	On what?
	What is he talking about?
	Just, like, anything.
	Like the protest.
	You know what I mean?
	College is going to sign up.
	It's every day.
	It's something.
	Sad, man.
	Guys, can we, like, record these things, please?
	Thank you.
	What are they?
	Can you remind the host to do these?
	What are they?
	My pillows.
	Oh, OK.
	No, they're not.
	They're all reliefs.
	Oh, they're reliefs.
	You You
	you Bye.
	Gorka, did I see the Gorka man?
	Yes, stand up Gorka, quick, get up!
	How good, how good is he, Sebastian?
	Seb, they call him Seb, I call him Sebastian.
	America first.
	I was on Breitbart News this morning like I am always at 8am, and now, ever since Mike Slater heard that, he uses it for my intro every week.
	Jeff, is that a bad idea, or is that like just gotta be my liner on Breitbart, what do you think?
	No, you gotta keep it as a liner.
	I tend to agree.
	Thank you for confirming.
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	Wherever you get your podcasts, they're also on YouTube, the Happy Women podcast.
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	I've listened to all five episodes and they're superb.
	They'll make you laugh, they'll make you cry, and you'll feel even more patriotic at the end.
	The Happy Women podcast and how we're going to defeat the bad guys.
	But Katie has got something for you there as well.
	It's her new book with Mike Gonzalez of the Heritage Foundation, Next Gen Marxism.
	What it is and how to combat it.
	That's Next Gen Marxism.
	Wherever good books are sold, get Next Gen Marxism.
	Alright, let's go through the calls.
	Call board is absolutely full.
	Line 1, John San Diego.
	Hey Sebastian, I'm so sick and tired of hearing about gay animals.
	You're talking about the new NBC documentary, Queer Planet!
	Yeah, I do have two things for you.
	First, they're always talking about lions because they've got video of these male lions having homosexual sex.
	No male lion starts out gay.
	Every single one of them Hang on, are you telling me that lions and tigers have sex with the opposite sex and that's how they make baby lions and tigers?
	I thought it was just like the stork dropped these baby cubs.
	Exactly.
	I thought they were all queer.
	They're all queer, didn't you know that, John?
	So what they do is the losers They get kicked out of the pride so they become rogue lions and they have to wander the savannah looking for something to do.
	Sometimes they'll find other beta male losers and they'll have sex with each other.
	But what they do is they roam and they find unprotected females and unprotected cubs and juveniles and they gang rape them.
	That's what they do.
	Right, don't give them any ideas because then they'll be making the rape planet documentary as well and they'll be trying to normalize that.
	Thank you, John.
	Let's go to Judy in Brooklyn, line two.
	Hey, hi Gorka man.
	Hey, you're a little bit low energy.
	What's up with you today?
	Yeah, I'm tired.
	No, you know what it is?
	It's 3 o'clock in the afternoon!
	How can you be tired?
	I'm gonna pep up in an excellent afternoon.
	Okay, listen.
	Um...
	I haven't spoken to you in ages, so I said I have to call you, okay?
	So here I am.
	I had eight hours sleep, and I had a Turkish coffee before I came on air.
	I am ready to roll.
	Come on, Judy.
	Match my energy levels.
	Don't even dare me, young man.
	Okay, listen.
	First of all, first of all, with everything going, put God in your life.
	That's number one.
	Yes.
	That's what we've got to put God in our life.
	Number two, and three, you're going to like three.
	So number two, Bob Costello.
	He was a former lawyer for Michael Cohn and I remember him being interviewed a while ago.
	He was on the stand in the court, yeah, talking about his former client.
	But you know, I remember him speaking like a year ago and talking whatever and he said that he, and one of the things that popped up was he said that Michael Cohn told him he's gonna say anything he has to just to not be put in jail.
	Okay?
	Right.
	So this is who Michael Cohn is.
	And my third thing is, I want to talk positively.
	And this is what I want to say.
	God willing, President Trump will be re-elected by a landslide avalanche victory.
	I'm telling you now.
	God willing though.
	Well, yes, but it's up to us.
	It's not about prayer and hope.
	You can pray, but you must also get actually politically engaged.
	If you're listening to this show, you must be politically engaged.
	You must be an election officer.
	You must be running for local office.
	You must be knocking on doors.
	You must be running telephone banks from your home because it's not up to President Trump.
	We put him in there.
	It's up to us.
	God bless you, Judy.
	I recommend a double espresso.
	Antoinette, California, line three.
	I am Dr. G of the Gorka Man.
	How the hell are you today?
	I'm actually good.
	I don't know the last time I slept for eight hours.
	It's a rather unusual experience.
	I like it.
	Oh, that's good.
	Listen, a couple things.
	Just to update our group, even though we're BLM's, we're like Baby Lives Matter people.
	You know, we normally would do two days a week and get our group going.
	We're doing officially as of today, five days a week, from Sunday through the following Sunday.
	In those five days, we are out there.
	So you've got enough people, Antoinette, to protect Outside Planned Parenthood, five days a week?
	We are doing it, Dr. G. But here's the interesting part.
	There's a guard at the Santa Ana Planned Parenthood.
	His heart has softened.
	He's not harassing us.
	And one of the guys, Kelly, he's not yelling at him or anything.
	His heart is softening.
	Then one of the other girls went.
	There was a school not too far from there, was talking to the young women there.
	And where I've been at the Tuscan Orange, you know, Today was a really, really exciting day.
	But here's another thing, and a very unusual thing.
	Her name is Yvette Cochran.
	She's actually a Republican, up in San Francisco.
	And she's going, she's a nurse, or she was a nurse.
	She went to Cal State Fullerton in Orange County, but she lives up in San Francisco.
	She's going to run against that evil Scott Weiner, that weirdo senator.
	Her name is Yvette.
	Yeah, I've met her.
	I've met her.
	Oh, God!
	I'm excited for her because she's going to try to reverse all these different laws that are standing.
	Well, first she has to get elected.
	I think we have to get her back on the show.
	But in the meantime, I just want to salute you in front of millions of Americans.
	The voice for the voiceless, Antoinette and her team, five days a week outside that Planned Parenthood.
	Those plant parenthoods, actually.
	That is a commitment to the most vulnerable in society.
	That is how a civilization is measured.
	God bless you, Antoinette.
	Don't go anywhere!
	Thank you.
	Don't go anywhere.
	Rick and David will get to you momentarily.
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	Okay, good.
	Okay, I presume.
	Is it Natalie or not?
	Oh, good.
	Good, good, good, good, good.
	What have we got that's short?
	Um...
	Um...
	.
	Oh no, I want to use that with the guests.
	Yeah, well, we'll go straight to Kool's.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	You You
	You you
	you Welcome to both of you.
	Robert Wolfe, his former economic advisor to Obama.
	Welcome to both of you.
	Robert, what was inflation when Biden took office?
	I'll tell you if you don't know.
	No, no, no.
	Come on.
	Jeff, is that Sandra Smith giggling live on air?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I don't think I've ever seen her do that.
	I know.
	She's never had such a dumb answer though before.
	I recognize that guy.
	So he was economics advisor to Obama, and he thought that when President Trump left the White House, we had 9-10% inflation.
	No, he knew the real number, but Biden has now said that twice this week, so he had to say that.
	Oh, so he's not allowed.
	Okay, I get it.
	That makes sense.
	Okay, if you want 1% inflation, if you want gasoline that's $1.80, get this man back in the White House.
	It's the yard sign.
	It's a t-shirt.
	It's the mug with President Trump's booking photograph and the phrase Trump 2024.
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	Let's go to Rick in Phoenix.
	Got some movie ideas, right Rick?
	Yes, sir.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey, all right.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Let me get my list out.
	All right.
	Fire away, Rick.
	Okay.
	Number one, Speed.
	Ooh, that's a fun movie.
	Yes, that is a super fun movie.
	I like that.
	Next.
	Fun, fun, fun.
	Second one is a patriotic panorama of a Oh my gosh, an absolute classic.
	All right, How the West Was Won.
	Okay, and quickly one more.
	I've got to get David on as well.
	It depends.
	Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
	I love Hitchhikers, but the movie was garbage.
	I grew up on the original TV show.
	Maybe I can force my buddy Chris to watch the TV show.
	Love it, love it.
	Stay on the line, Rick.
	Let's give Rick one of our frat boy t-shirts.
	David, you got 90 seconds.
	Blow me away.
	Yes, sir.
	With the presidential debates coming up, I think they both deserve to have good announcers bringing them to the stage.
	And when Biden goes up, get the boxing legend announcer Michael Buffer and have his, let's get ready to mumble!
	Hey, what do you think the host of this show?
	Couldn't he be a good announcer?
	Oh, he'd be great.
	But I mean, the guy's trademark though, let's get ready to stumble or... Well, he's trademarked, let's get ready to rumble, but I don't think anybody's trademarked, let's get ready to mumble.
	Have they?
	I don't think so.
	It's a good idea, though.
	I love it.
	All right.
	We've got great callers.
	Superb, the number here, 833-33-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	And please, unless you're a brain surgeon or getting ready to go on a rocket ship to Mars for Elon Musk, you cannot miss the rest of the show today.
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	Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Well, that's interesting.
	Tech advisor Jacob Helberg, who has donated large sums of money to the Democrats, has joined a wave of big money donors who are donating to Donald Trump.
	Jacob Helberg has just dropped a cool million dollars on President Trump's re-election campaign.
	I think that's rather significant, don't you?
	If you're prepared to do that in public, and you're a former Democrat who bankrolled Joe Biden or Obama, what does it say about average Democrats?
	At the same time, another interesting news story.
	I don't do these news reviews very often because we just prep the show and we talk about it and we have great guests and we have great cuts.
	Jeff, do you think I should do these news reviews?
	I used to like read through the articles at the top of the show.
	I know some people like to fill air time with that.
	What do you think of it, Jeff?
	It's good to mix in every now and then.
	Alright, what a diplomatic answer.
	Maybe he should replace Antony Blinken.
	Eric, could you imagine if you had Jeff as the Secretary of State in the Trump administration?
	He'd negotiate with the Chinese by like banging on the table with a massive hammer.
	The dynamic of him and President Trump against foreign diplomats.
	Trump would be the good cop and Jeff would be the bad cop.
	Trump would be the softy and Jeff would be the bad cop.
	That would be too hilarious.
	Alright, this is even more interesting.
	From Fox News, Emma Colton and David Spunt.
	Yes, it's what it says.
	S-P-U-N-T.
	That is a rather unfortunate name.
	Spunt.
	The White House has exerted, has exerted, get it right Gawker, has asserted executive privilege over audio and video recordings relating to special counsel Robert Herr's interviews with President Biden.
	Quote, This is from the Associate Attorney General Carlos Uriarte.
	I write to inform you that the President has asserted executive privilege over the requested audio recordings and is making a protective assertion of privilege over any remaining materials responsive to Congressional subpoenas.
	John, is there anything ironic about Biden saying that his documents are privileged?
	A little bit, I guess.
	Well, I should think so, because Eric, what's being debated in the Supreme Court right now?
	A little something called presidential immunity.
	Yes, executive privilege, presidential immunity.
	So I guess Donald Trump, the 45th president, doesn't get it.
	But the 46th does, because Reasons.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We're going to go to your calls in a second.
	It may be the A Block, but somebody's been waiting very patiently.
	The number is 833-33-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	However, let's just go back to what's happening in Manhattan.
	I want to go down there.
	I want to Hear what's happening inside the courtroom.
	We may be able to make that happen next week.
	But in the meantime, Democrat legal analyst Jonathan Turley has this to say about the second star witness after the woman who gets paid to have sex on camera and thinks she can talk to dead people.
	Yes, that is Stormy Daniels.
	This is what Jonathan has to say about Michael Cohen.
	Michael Cohen is the most compromised, unbelievable witness in the history of the federal legal system.
	That's hardly news.
	What we saw in his cross-examination was an evasive and rehearsed set of answers, and he's going to likely continue that Tomorrow.
	But here you have his own lawyer now saying that what he said on the stand is diametrically opposed to what he told him in an attorney-client confidential setting.
	That's correct.
	Mr. Costello, Michael Cohen's former attorney, has said that everything Michael Cohen has said is a lie.
	And Turley is correct.
	He is the most compromised witness in legal history.
	As Matt Gaetz pointed out, there is no government authority None that Michael Cohen has not lied to, and that's the Star Witness.
	Okay, I'm sorry I have to do this, Eric, but I have to play it again because what Jeff found for us It's just evidence.
	Everybody on the left says there's no culture war.
	They're not coming after your children.
	But instead, NBC and Peacock has announced this documentary.
	If you're listening right now, just think about what this means in terms of what Hollywood and cable media is doing to your children and your grandchildren.
	Cut 16.
	The paparazzi really are everywhere.
	Everything you were taught as a kid is wrong.
	Gay penguins, bisexual lions, sex-changing clownfish.
	This is a queer planet.
	Queerness has always existed.
	It's only in humans that we have such a stigma about it.
	The idea of just having two fixed sexes is clearly out of style.
	Mother Nature is pretty open-minded.
	Sex is not just for reproduction.
	It's clear that no matter where you look on our planet, nature is full of queer surprises.
	To be honest, we should all probably get laid a little more than we do.
	It's called Queer Planet.
	What have we been telling you?
	What have the evangelicals been telling us for decades?
	I used to pooh-pooh the concern, but no, they were right.
	They want to pervert everything.
	They want to come after your children.
	The freedom to love who you want, that's not what it's about.
	It's about queering everything.
	If you're not familiar with the concept, read the amazing James Lindsay's Cynical Theories and his new book Queering the American Child.
	It's about making sure that the concepts that we know to be true, that have been demonstrated over millennia, no, they're not true.
	No, there's so many.
	There's an infinite number of sexes.
	Homosexuality is absolutely normal.
	Don't worry about it.
	And yes, if you're a girl, you can become a boy.
	And if you're a boy, you can become a girl.
	It's grooming.
	That program is grooming.
	It is sexually indoctrinating children.
	Sounds like fun, cool music, great visuals.
	No.
	It's about sexually targeting the identity of young girls and boys.
	And the sooner we all wake up to it, the better.
	All right, let's squeeze in a call.
	Brian, Sacramento, line one.
	Thank you, Dr. Burke.
	Are you on speakerphone?
	Are you in a tunnel or something?
	The sound is absolutely awful.
	Yeah, I'm in a stairwell.
	Okay, go ahead.
	The debate between President Trump and El Barboso Biden, one should be, at least two of them, one should be by Newsmax and another one in their terms.
	The questions should be formulated only hours before.
	And so the bubbles of Biden should not go in the basement and practice and get rubbed up and come back.
	And the other thing is the stormy Daniel case.
	The bottom line is they're election deniers.
	How come they're accusing us of being election deniers?
	And they're bringing somebody that stole her body for money, and then Michael Cohen, that thing is just nuts, it's crazy.
	Well, what is the adjective you're using to describe Biden?
	I can't catch it.
	What's the word you're using to describe him?
	Spanish people call him el baboso, means snail, snow snail.
	Okay, I'm not familiar with that.
	And why is the Alvin Bragg case, why is that a case of election denial?
	Explain that, Brian.
	But the bottom line to that case is that the money was paid.
	If we had known about that, the election results would have changed.
	But that's, you know, so their bottom line, they're saying they're going to try to tie that to the election and Uh, illegal money paid, which they're saying, well, then he would not have, President Trump would not have been elected.
	Well, they're election deniers.
	We won, and they always do this.
	Chuck Schumer did that years ago in Arizona.
	He had 11 attorneys and spent thousands and thousands of dollars debunking an election that happened there.
	They have the January 6 short trial, and now they're doing this Stormy Daniel to Uh, just attack President Trump for no reason.
	But like I said, using a person that uses her body to make money.
	She had three versions of her story.
	One, nothing happened.
	Two, she copycatted exactly Karen McDougal's statement.
	And the third was the bombshell that Bill Cosby thing.
	I was drugged up.
	No, she's not credible.
	But the bottom line... Well, no, the bottom line is what Mike Cohen said three days ago.
	He said that the discussion with President Trump about the NDA payment occurred in January after the election.
	Well, if that's your sworn testimony, Mike Cohen, then it has nothing to do with the election, because the election was in November.
	You can't malfeasance.
	You can't have malpractice.
	You can't distort an election with a payment to anybody months after the election occurred.
	But thank you, Brian.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
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	Yes.
	Brock quote.
	Trump's not ever going to become president, right?
	Right?
	And then Strzok, the agent who originated this counterintelligence investigation, who is a point of contact, who drafted the initiating document, he responds, quote, no, no he's not.
	We'll stop it.
	Unquote.
	Right, well... So...
	That's a different sort of context.
	They say conservatives don't know how to do culture, well a couple of them do with product after product from the movie My Son Hunter to that play which was FBI lovebirds taking all the text messages from the FBI lovebirds of the deep state who are talking about the Trump voter stench at the Walmart and that we have a Backup plan, a plan B to get rid of President Trump.
	Take those texts and read them out verbatim on a stage.
	What a genius idea.
	And we're going to discuss their next product in a moment.
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	All right, let's bring on the stage today, the people behind cultural content that actually makes a difference, Anne McElhenney and Philip McAleer.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Hi, great to be here.
	All right, it's been far too long.
	So you did the amazing My Son Hunter movie with our buddy Robert Darvey as well.
	You did the FBI Lovebirds play.
	What is your latest latest production, please?
	Well, it's October 7, a play called October 7.
	And just like our previous You know, content.
	It's 100% verbatim, using only actually people's live words.
	We went to Israel after October 7th.
	When we saw the world wanted to forget October 7th, when we saw the world was trying to, you know, memory hole what happened on that day and talk about Gaza and talk about ceasefires, we wanted to bring it back to, as they say in Hollywood, the origin story.
	Or as they say in journalism, context.
	Anne, talk to us about the content.
	So these are actual things that were said.
	Where are you getting them from?
	Where is the text material originating from?
	So, as Philem says, we went to Israel after October 7th and we travelled all over the country and interviewed people who, you know, described the worst day of their lives.
	This is the biggest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust.
	And there's no shortage of stories.
	We ended up with 13 that we chose of all the people we spoke to.
	And these are, you know, ordinary people on an extraordinary day, the worst day of their lives.
	And I was just thinking about it today.
	It's kind of interesting.
	It's their ordinariness and how they reacted and how they coped on the worst day of their lives, which is fascinating and extraordinary.
	And their resilience is amazing and their bravery.
	You know, one guy, you know, couldn't be more ordinary, if you like, right?
	So he's a guy who worked for Coca-Cola.
	He's not a Coca-Cola executive.
	He's a guy who delivers and services the soda machines.
	And he had delivered the soda machines to the Nova party, where these young people went.
	And in the morning, he's a devoutly religious man, so the television was off, the radio was off, but he heard a sound that sounded like thunder.
	And he went outside and realized there was no thunder, that there was a terrorist attack.
	And he realized who was going to save.
	He immediately thought, who's going to save all those kids that went to this party?
	And he knew immediately the answer.
	And the answer was he was going to save them.
	And he went in his truck, the one that he works, his work truck that he uses for Coca-Cola, back and forth, over and over and over and over again, from his home about five miles from the Gaza border.
	And he saved almost a hundred kids, who he brought back to his house.
	And the wife, you know, was making them tea and trying to take care of them and getting them to have showers.
	And every noise they heard made them jump.
	We're talking to Philem McAlee and Anne McElhinney, the website for the new play, A Telling of What Actually Happened in the Biggest Loss of Life for the Jewish Nation since the end of the show, the end of the Holocaust, is October 7th, The Play, or sorry, October 7th, the number 7, October7theplay.com, October7theplay.com.
	Philem, share with us Well, I suppose I like to say I don't have a soul, I'm a journalist, right?
	Island or in the UK or somewhere else. What was it like to go to Israel after that massacre
	of the innocents? What was that like for you as a human being, you know, an entity with
	a soul to talk to those survivors?
	Well, I suppose I like to say I don't have a soul, I'm a journalist. I don't mean that.
	That's a terrible thing to say.
	No, but look, we're journalists.
	I'm a journalist.
	I mean, Anne can say what she thinks.
	You know, you have to do a job and your job is there to get their story out.
	And you have to go and ask the hard questions.
	And you're not there.
	I suppose what I'm saying is I'm not there as a human being, actually.
	I know it's a very human thing and you have to feel, and we're getting chills every time.
	We watch the play and we get chills because we're listening to the stories.
	But really, our job is not to cry with these people.
	Our job is to get the story out to as many people as possible.
	Maybe Ann feels different, but it's an honour to go, that they let us into their house.
	And by the way, as you said, we've got these funny accents.
	We're Irish.
	This was a time when the Irish Prime Minister disgraced himself by saying one of the young Irish hostages had been lost and has now been found when she was released from captivity.
	Eight years old, Emily Hand!
	People were really anti-Irish in Israel, so that added a layer of complexity to the story.
	What about you, Anne?
	Weren't you emotionally drained listening to all these stories, Anne?
	No, actually, no.
	Funny, I mean, as Phelan says, this is a privilege.
	This is the dream job, by the way.
	This is the job of journalists.
	And, you know, I get tired of journalists telling their sob story about having to witness things.
	Get over yourself.
	Stand aside and let somebody who wants to do the job do the job.
	It's not personal.
	It didn't happen to me.
	And the job I have is to faithfully report on what these people have privileged me by telling me these stories.
	I felt really lucky to be there.
	I'm not joking.
	I felt really lucky to be there.
	These are really powerful people.
	And it's funny, your colleague Dennis Prager asked me recently, did any of the people we spoke to break down?
	Nobody broke down that I spoke to.
	Israelis are far too tough for that.
	Far too tough for that.
	But we salute you for doing that which nobody else is doing.
	I want to continue the conversation.
	Don't go anywhere.
	The website is October7theplay.com.
	That's October7theplay.com.
	Follow both Philem and Anne on social media.
	Philem McAuley and Anne McElhenney.
	And give me a follow as well whilst you're there for the breaking news.
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	We'll be back in a moment.
	By the way, is there any way for you to go further back and closer together?
	Because we're cropping you off, Philem.
	Yes.
	You're cropping me off?
	Well, you are, because we're missing the right side of your face.
	OK.
	Well, while we're at that, how's that?
	Good.
	And is there any way to angle it down, or is it going to fall over?
	It's going to fall over.
	I want to try.
	How much time have we got?
	You've got three minutes.
	You've got three minutes.
	Get him to phone me again on Phelan McAleer Skype.
	Let me try that one more time.
	Okay, Phelan McAleer Skype.
	Do it, guys.
	Yeah.
	Do it again.
	Yeah.
	Phelan McAleer.
	The one he just dialed.
	The one he just dialed, because it'll come up on the laptop and we think... On a different laptop.
	Actually, hang up on this one, I suppose.
	Yeah, hang up on that one.
	Yeah, this is Phelan, you see.
	You have to hang up on it.
	Yeah.
	Well, we're based in Los Angeles, actually, but why are we doing... Well, we're journalists, and there seems to be a lot of journalists who don't want to really do the job.
	All right, good.
	All right, stand by.
	We'll continue.
	We've got 70 seconds.
	come in with the my son hunter clip yeah I'll do pillow after cut
	How much time do you guys have?
	As much time as you want.
	All right, great.
	I might do two more segments then, if that's okay.
	I want to go on your cruise, by the way.
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	We'll get your friends and family, right?
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	You're going to be a great dad.
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	You Every great family in the United States is persecuted.
	You, you are part of a great family, not a sideshow, not someone to be abandoned in your darkest moments.
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	The price you pay for power, that's Hunter Biden!
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	Now the October 7 The Play.
	So you need to go to October7theplay.com.
	We are delighted to have Philip McAuley and Anne McElhinney back with us.
	I'm going to ask the rude question I discussed in the break.
	What are two people with beautiful lilting Irish brogue accents doing in America teaching American journalists to do their stinking jobs?
	How did that happen?
	Well, that's just another... Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Anne, Anne, will you just repeat for our three and a half million listeners what Philem said in the break about my cruise?
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	All right, back to the question.
	Why are you the people teaching those without those beautiful accents to do their stinking job?
	Another example of immigrants doing jobs Americans just won't do.
	Oh, they froze, they froze. Oh, she's big, she's being attacked by the NSA as we speak.
	Another example, she said, of immigrants doing the jobs that Americans won't do.
	All right, so how did it all start, Philip? Explain, how did you crazy people get involved in doing real
	journalism when nobody else would?
	Well, actually, it all started in a mountain in Romania, as most stories do.
	Well, I did actually meet my wife in Romania, so most good stories do start on mountains in
	Romania. We went up a mountain, liberals, to report on an evil mining project that was going
	to destroy villages by an evil Canadian mining company.
	And we got up there and talked to the people and realized that they wanted this project, they needed this project, and that the enemies of these people were Greenpeace and environmentalism.
	And environmentalism was keeping them poor and the company was going to make them rich.
	And it really made us rethink liberalism and rethink Who's the true enemy of the world's poor, the world's undeveloped people?
	And really, we made a documentary called Mind Your Own Business.
	It was very popular in America.
	We thought, well, let's go where we're popular, where we're appreciated.
	So we ended up going to America and creating content there.
	And how, I'm curious, how sudden was the transition if you were, you know, pro-environment from the left?
	Was it that story or was it a slow burn that you said, hang on, what we're being told just isn't true?
	Well, it was very powerful when it's, you know, when you see it right in front of you.
	I mean, we were, you know, as Phelan says, we went up to cover this, you know, this story had been told, evil Canadian mining company, innocent locals who couldn't speak for themselves, heroic Greenpeace, foreign women coming to save these ignorant, you know, peasants.
	And then you go up there and every last line of that story is bullshit, including obviously that, you know, the evil Canadians, you know, the evil Canadians were doing the best thing that had ever happened to this area.
	They had been mining there for forever and the mining that had gone on previously was And how long ago was that film, that that occurred?
	which doesn't care much about the environment.
	The Canadians were going to come along, clean up the whole act,
	give all these locals great jobs in a place where people had literally no running water,
	where it was a tough, tough, very poor environment.
	And how long ago was that film, that that occurred?
	How long ago?
	That was 2006, I think, 2005, something like that.
	Wow, wow.
	Hang on, hold on, hold on.
	We're up against a hard break.
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	The true retelling of what happened on October the 7th.
	October7theplay.com.
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	I'm going to hold them over because I just like them.
	They're cool.
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	you You can't say bullshit on radio.
	It's not allowed.
	The Federal Communications Council doesn't like that.
	Sorry.
	It's alright, we dumped it.
	I shouldn't have said it.
	B.S.
	No, B.S.
	You can say B.S.
	You just can't say the actual word.
	Otherwise we get fined.
	He's Irish.
	Yeah, the other problem is I did a podcast where they were telling me that they want, they were encouraging me to... Oh, on podcast it's supposed to make you cool.
	Oh look, he's on the sauce.
	He's on the sauce.
	He's drinking now.
	What is he drinking?
	That was another reason I had to leave Ireland was I stopped drinking.
	I'd say I'm a refugee status in America because I was being persecuted for not drinking in Ireland.
	Well, I haven't had a drink since my parents died in 2003, so join the club.
	Join the club.
	You guys are an inspiration.
	Super fun.
	Do you ever get to DC?
	Yeah, totally.
	Any chance you could come to the show?
	Where is the theatre?
	On Broadway, basically.
	Oh, in New York?
	Off-Broadway.
	40.
	Yes.
	Oh, I think that's doable.
	What are the dates?
	So we're playing until June the 16th, but it's basically every Thursday, every Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday.
	Oh, that's totally doable.
	That's totally doable.
	Let's chat in the break.
	I'll text you after the show.
	I think I've got your numbers.
	I think I've got your numbers.
	I don't think so.
	No, we sent them by email.
	Did we?
	Well, Jeff will have them.
	I'll get them from Jeff.
	I'll give you guys a call after the show.
	Yeah, come up and we go out for a drink afterwards, or go for a meal afterwards.
	We'll get a good steak.
	I like the idea of that.
	So how long have you guys been in LA?
	Since we came here, really, at 12.
	We were in DC for a year, actually.
	But really, it's 12 or 13 years now, isn't it, Al?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We went there.
	Andrew Breitbart encouraged us, and that was the end of that.
	Oh, you're friends of the late great.
	Oh, my gosh.
	That explains everything.
	That explains everything.
	It does.
	It really does.
	It really does.
	We met Andrew Breitbart.
	We were in DC, and we met Andrew Breitbart.
	That makes sense.
	Stand by.
	It's a good thing.
	Biden and Trump will meet June 27th on CNN and one of Biden's debate conditions was not
	having an audience.
	So that explains why it's on CNN.
	Ouch!
	That's a bit spicy, isn't it Jimmy?
	It's on CNN because there won't be an audience and that's one of the stipulations.
	That's rather saucy of you.
	Alright, I have kept our guests over.
	Why?
	Because they're far too much fun.
	That's the reason.
	But you know what else is fun?
	Looking in the mirror and seeing your former self glare back at you.
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	I've been, ever since, I don't know when I first spoke to you guys, Ann and Phil, I think it was around the My Son Hunter movie, maybe a couple of years ago.
	And ever since, I've never understood you guys.
	I like always rack my brain, oh no, there's another great product from this amazing, you know, couple.
	But they're Irish, and they're in America, and they're doing stuff that nobody else does.
	What's going on here?
	And then in the break, you explained it.
	Andrew Breitbart, of course, your buddies of the late, great Andrew Breitbart.
	Now everything is clear.
	All right, the latest product is the truth about what happened in Israel.
	It's October 7, ThePlay.com.
	I just committed in the break.
	I'm going to go to Broadway.
	I'm going to hook up with Philem and Anne.
	We're going to get a nice steak dinner, and we're going to see The Play.
	I can't wait.
	I haven't been to Israel since before the massacre.
	I went a year ago with 350 of my listeners, but I've seen the unedited, the 47-minute video of what Hamas did, the actual murders, the rapes, the just desecration of dead bodies.
	I've told the story here of what affected me the most.
	A young father decapitated with a blunt garden hoe.
	I've talked about the two boys who had their father murdered in front of them with a grenade, and one of the little ten-year-olds has a black hole in his head where his eye used to be.
	Give me a story, each of you, for what was burnt into your cerebellum when you talked to the survivors.
	Well, I just want to say, I mean, of course, our play is a story of tragedy, but it's not just tragedy as well.
	There's hope and resilience and there's heroes, too.
	There's one of our guys who fought back.
	He was a police officer with a gun, a pistol with nine bullets, and he went out into the streets of Afrikin, saved dozens of people, killed two terrorists with Kalashnikovs with a pistol and nine bullets.
	So there's heroism, there's hope, there's resilience.
	And I want that.
	To me, those are the stories that are important.
	There is tragedy.
	People shouldn't think they're going to come out utterly depressed.
	Of course, it's tough.
	But it's important.
	Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think, you know, and people have said that about the play for people who, funny, somebody just said the other day, actually, I think it might have been, it might have been Bhatia from Newsweek, Bhatia Ungar.
	I think she, she made the point that for people who can't watch that 47 minutes, they could totally watch the play.
	Because we don't go, we kind of don't go there in a way.
	We do have people describe things they've seen and people that they, you know, they see people getting shot, but ultimately the people that we focus on are, you know, resilient in the face of terrible, terrible tragedy.
	And, you know, stories that stick out, I mean, there's a grandmother, From Ofakim, who, you know, she celebrated the night before there was a big Jewish festival of Simchat Torah, where they, you know, where everyone dressed up in white and everything.
	And so two of her sons, she has four sons, two of her sons came with their wives and their children.
	In the morning, of course, everything went to hell and all this, the bombardment and the terrorist attack.
	And they went up under, and I kind of make the joke, they went and they hid under a solar panel in next door neighbor's house.
	I said, the first good use of a solar panel.
	But her foot got stuck in the window getting out and she saw a Hamas terrorist who had her in his sights and he had the gun trained on her and it jammed and it jammed repeatedly.
	But she sat there and this is a grandmother, a very nice lady, she's talking to us, being interviewed in someone else's house, she's wearing someone else's clothes, she's lost everything and she says, I wasn't afraid.
	The savage did not deserve my fear.
	And she gets out, but her son who was behind her never joined her and will never join her again because he was killed.
	Can I say one more thing?
	Well, I just first want to say I appreciate that we focus so much on the tragedy since October, but you're showing another side of it as well.
	So go on, Phillip.
	No, and there's another side which is really strange, the humour.
	There is humour.
	You know, I suppose these are, we see them on there, Jewish people will find humour in the darkest places.
	Oh yes.
	And, you know, they make jokes and they're there and they get a good belly laugh.
	Funny, I always notice they get a great belly laugh from the Israelis because they really understand the humour, they really get Dark Irish humour I'm sure resonates well in Israel.
	We've got a minute left.
	Talk to us about your reaction to what you're seeing in college campuses, on the streets of Ireland, the UK, America, people shouting from the river to the sea.
	Well, I'm glad you actually asked that question, because our plan after our New York run is to go to the college campuses in the fall.
	And we're starting in Harvard.
	That's where we want to go first.
	We're going to go to Harvard.
	We're going to go to Penn.
	We're going to go to Berkeley, UCLA.
	That's the idea.
	One night only at these Ivy League colleges, which seem to have done everything for these young people except for give them an education.
	And a rudimentary education.
	I mean, we know from the Wall Street Journal did a great piece where they asked some of these children who had gone, who are going to these Ivy League schools, from the river to the sea.
	Can you tell me what river it is?
	What sea is it?
	And they don't even know that.
	They don't even know that.
	And when it's pointed out to them, they say that they don't want the annihilation of Israel.
	But some of them do, by the way.
	Yes.
	Well, God bless you.
	That is a genius idea.
	We're going to show an unbelievable clip.
	from a professor at one of these universities next that will shock all of our listeners.
	If you go to Harvard, I went to Harvard for a year, I'd like to join you.
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	Yeah, yeah.
	Did I ever send you the new TV show I'm working on?
	No!
	No, alright.
	I'll get your email and I'll send it to Jeff and then we'll coordinate dates for New York.
	And I'm serious about the Harvard thing.
	That would be a giggle.
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	Apparently Greg Abbott finally parted in the shooting.
	Who did?
	Greg Abbott.
	He finally parted with that guy.
	The guy's like, the guy pointed a gun at the car and shot at him.
	Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Good.
	Come in with breaking news and then you can do that, Eric.
	and then I'm going to tee up the lunatic professor.
	If you don't, I'll just top it to you.
	Thanks for watching!
	Thank you.
	Great, thanks.
	I'm going to be doing a lot of research on this.
	Or rather, Eric!
	What did you just tell me?
	As of just about half an hour ago, it's all over X now, or Twitter as it was formerly known.
	Texas Governor Greg Abbott has finally pardoned Daniel Perry, the man who shot and killed a BLM rioter named Garrett Foster in self-defense, and of course was convicted of murder and everything, you know, by a leftist judge because this happened in the crazy blue city of Austin.
	He's finally been pardoned.
	Good.
	Thank you, Governor Abbott.
	You did something right.
	I promised you!
	I teased it to you!
	I found this online.
	This is a professor from UC Irvine who, um, well, her name is Tiffany Willoughby and she's teaching our children and she is certifiably a lunatic.
	We cannot have a genocidal foreign policy in a democracy.
	These young people are going to be the ones that have to pay the price for these horrible decisions.
	These police officers out here today, that's thousands of students' scholarships.
	Thousands of students could have been able to go to school and have books and have housing.
	But instead, our chancellor, who is a very cruel man, decided to send thousands of dollars worth of state funding paid for by the taxpayers into the trash.
	Are you concerned about just jeopardizing your jobs?
	What job do I have if the students don't have a future?
	I was just standing here, and I was eating a lollipop, and they decided to arrest me for being in the presence of what's going on on campus, which is really a shame.
	What is it they say?
	She seems nice, doesn't she Jeff?
	I want to know how much money she makes too.
	These are the courses taught by Professor Willoughby.
	Black Radical Tradition and Black Feminist Internationalism.
	Ethics, Erotics and Will.
	Fanon, the commie, and feminism, African diaspora, race in US foreign policy, black feminist research methods.
	Oh, I'd like to research those black feminists.
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	Oh, and what's her book?
	Have a wild guess.
	Waste of a White Skin, the Carnegie Corporation and the Racial Logic of White Vulnerability.
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	When I looked at the information, I said, I don't think he did anything wrong.
	When I looked at the information, I said, I don't think he did anything wrong.
	If anything, he did something right.
	He was coming into office.
	He looked at the information.
	He said, huh, that's fine.
	That's what they're supposed to do.
	They're supposed to be.
	And he didn't just call Russia.
	He called and spoke to both ways.
	I think there were 30 some odd countries.
	He's doing the job.
	You know, he was just doing his job.
	Who's he talking about?
	Who was just doing his job?
	Well, it was the man who was chosen by the President to be his National Security Advisor, an individual with decades of honorable service in uniform, rising to the position of Director of Intelligence for the Defense Intelligence Agency, but a man who, of all the people Obama told President Trump in transition on inauguration day he should be afraid of and get rid of.
	The only person he put at the top of that list was General Mike Flynn.
	Why?
	Well, let's explore.
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	Flynn, deliver the truth at whatever cost.
	General Flynn, welcome back to America First.
	Yeah, thanks, Seb.
	I really appreciate you allowing me to come back on to get in a little bit more of the details here about some of the stuff in the film.
	I think it is to talk about what else is going on, you know, on the streets of New York right now with the old DJT and what's happening in this country.
	I mean, it's just outrageous.
	The corruption and weaponized system of government that we have.
	Well, thank you for joining us.
	We're going to talk about what's happening on the streets of Illinois as you're bouncing up and down in your RV.
	It looks like you're driving through the streets of Beirut.
	But thank you for making time.
	I know you're traveling the country.
	It's terrible.
	Yeah, the road conditions we can see through the camera.
	So let's start.
	First, full disclosure for anyone who thinks I'm hiding the fact.
	This man was a colleague of mine.
	I worked for him in the National Security Council transition team.
	Once we came into government, I worked for the Strategic Initiative Group, not the NSC, but was part of the NSC meetings.
	I consider him a friend as well as a former colleague and superior.
	General Flynn, Mike.
	Why on earth, when all the threats to discuss, such as Little Kim in North Korea, the Mullahs in Iran, the KGB, Kremlin, the Kremlin, why would the outgoing 44th President of the United States tell the incoming President, President Trump, that the person he should be most afraid of and get rid of is his own National Security Advisor?
	Why would Obama say that to President Trump?
	Yeah.
	So one of the things when I went into the Defense Intelligence Agency as the director under Obama, I was appointed by Obama for that job.
	The very first thing that I did was I initiated an audit of the classified programs.
	And the reason why I did that audit was because I studied before going into that job, I looked at the audits that had been done back, looking back 10 years, Sebastian, and not one was ever passed.
	And I was shocked And I learned that.
	So I went in there, resolved with the idea that we were going to dig into these programs and I was going to eliminate those that were outdated.
	And I knew that from studying the previous audits, 10 years worth of audits, that there was some corruption in there.
	Now, does that mean that people were bad people?
	It just means that there was things that were going on that was sort of funny business.
	So that's what I did when I first went into the DIA.
	Well, one of the interviews that I had done and some of the discussions I had had going in as in any particular job, because one of the jobs that I was also touted for was possibly to be the DNI, which, you know, looking back, you know, hindsight, right?
	2020.
	And then, of course, I became the National Security Advisor.
	Well, they did not want me looking at a certain set of programs.
	And I think this is probably breaking news on your show.
	I talk in a movie, but I don't speak about them directly.
	So I'll break it here.
	But I wanted to look at the Black Book programs, OK?
	The Black Book programs.
	So your audience will—you know, you have a smart audience, and you talk about different things.
	But the Black Book programs are the off-the-books intelligence programs that are well-funded, I mean, we're talking tens of billions of dollars, and there's only a few people in government that actually even understand what they are.
	And then those Black Book programs are also, some of them revolve around what are called presidential findings.
	And every president back to Eisenhower, you know, did some type of presidential finding.
	And I did sit through a transition meeting with Mike Pence.
	And we did receive that briefing, and I saw then that what I had already assumed was a great deal of corruption.
	I saw then when we got briefed—and I do talk about this in the movie—that these programs were outdated, they were bloated, I mean big-time bloated, and they were corrupt.
	And so one of the first things that I did when I when I went in the White House as the National Security Advisor, literally within the first probably first Monday or Tuesday, I called for that that same briefing.
	And the first time I got briefed, it was me and Pence.
	And in that room were the Senior leaders of the CIA.
	It wasn't anybody from the DNI because the DNI is, you know, I mean under, the DNI really doesn't, and the Office of the DNI, they don't really do any of this stuff.
	So let's just be clear for those who are, you know, lost in the swamp acronyms.
	The Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
	So that's the umbrella entity that was created after 9-11 to kind of collate all the other 17 agencies' actual product.
	Right.
	So Obama knew this because I had spoken about it.
	I was very transparent about some of the things that I wanted to do.
	In addition to that, I was also very transparent about basically reducing significantly the entirety of the National Security Council.
	which is still overly bloated and never really changed much under, you know, my, the guys that followed me into that
	office.
	They actually, they actually created more. I think they added more to the National Security Council.
	So the National Security Council during the height of the Cold War was only like 25 to 30 people.
	When I walked in, it was close to 500.
	And, you know, when the National Security Advisor, as you know, Seth, from being in the White House,
	when you need an expert in any walk of life, any field, you have access to everybody in the world
	to be able to answer any question you want.
	You don't need to have 500 people doing nothing except spying, in this case, spying on the Trump administration or trying to corrupt and undermine the Trump administration, because that was the other part of what I knew was going to happen, especially The way the transition between me and Susan Rice took place.
	I mean, it was like battle.
	I met with her I think five times total, and each time was like a debating session about how good they were doing and what things they did, and the whole America First agenda that Donald Trump was coming in on.
	They could have cared less about that, and they undermined it at every single turn, as we all have seen.
	The reason why, you know, when they say, Flynn knows where the bodies are buried, I do know where they are.
	I do know exactly what to ask.
	And as the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, you know, some of those programs we were part of, the defense side was part of.
	And so I knew about them.
	And these are the kinds of things that need to stop, or they need to be adjusted for the times that we face now.
	Not adding more corrupt programs and processes that are going to undermine and usurp our rights.
	I mean, this entirety of the censorship state That frankly, what we learned, and these are all things, had I been able to stay in there, I guess the bottom line, had I been able to stay in there as the National Security Advisor, there would have been no Mueller investigation.
	Many of these programs would have been eliminated.
	I would have cleaned up the National Security Council in about six months and gotten on with the business of protecting this country and supporting Donald Trump, you know, as the President of the United States, as the duly elected President of the United States.
	None of this other stuff would have happened.
	Hold it there, hold it there.
	I've got to get to my list of questions.
	We're talking to General Mike Flynn, 24th National Security Advisor of the United States.
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	President's former national security advisor lieutenant general Michael Flynn pleading guilty to a line to the FBI
	Flynn knew exactly how the system worked. He knew exactly what the Intel world had been up to he understood its
	funding They had to get rid of
	And so I'm in there with these other political appointees.
	They're all supposed to go in there and tell what they believe to be the truth.
	What they did was they took my assessment and they wanted me to change it.
	And I was like, I'm changing it.
	He was, by definition, the most dangerous possible person for Donald Trump to hire.
	President Obama said, but I do have one specific recommendation.
	Stay away from Michael Flynn.
	He's bad news.
	Over time, instead of being pounded down below the surface of the ocean, we started to fight.
	I'm now above the surface.
	You need to see it.
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	Sir, if I can take you back to those heady days when we walked into the West Wing in January of 2017.
	The Deep State was sabotaging it from day one.
	A few days in, the classified NSC phone book with the names of the new directors and deputy directors had been leaked to the Washington Post.
	I made a recommendation to get Jeff Sessions to send all the DOJ polygraphers to the EEOB, to the Eisenhower building, and polygraph everybody, me included, until we found the people leaking that classified document.
	Perp walked them out the north lawn and charged them.
	I was told, you can't rock the boat, and then of course you were gone within a few days.
	What was it about, was the bench too small?
	Did the deep state have too much of an effective plan?
	Why were the moves to make things MAGA and America First nigh impossible?
	Yeah, so a couple of things.
	And clearly the Obama administration, the outgoing Obama administration had a plan.
	They had a plan to undermine Donald J. Trump.
	And we know this now from not only the evidence that was broken in my case, but also what evidence came out from the Durham investigation, which is, you know, I know a lot of people are upset about him as I am, but he could have done a lot more to go after some of these people.
	But from that investigation and from the evidence that came out in my case, we now know that
	on the 3rd of August of 2016, John Brennan delivered an eyes-only document to Barack
	Obama that was essentially elements of Russian disinformation that they then turned into
	an annex.
	And it was really developed by Hillary Clinton and her campaign team to hide her own information
	own misconduct.
	That was the 3rd of August of 2016.
	We now know that to be true.
	Then you fast forward to the day the coup started, I call it, the 5th of January of 2017, in the Oval Office, led by Barack Obama.
	And every single thing that the Trump administration was trying to do During the transition, everything was undermined.
	They began their, you know, essentially their seditious, treasonous activities at that time.
	And then when everybody goes into the White House, now we go inside the White House and we're there.
	What they feared was they feared guys like me and others, but principally guys like me, because I had already led one of the largest intel agencies in the world.
	And I knew a lot about what the intel community was up to, and I knew the programs that we needed to basically be reformed, as well as some of the other reforms that needed to happen within the organizations like the Department of Defense, the Department of State, the Department of Justice, the FBI, the CIA.
	Sadly, I think what Trump had to rely on, and guys like me and guys like you, we were not really political people, Seb.
	We've been around the block, but we're not political people.
	What he had to rely on was he had to rely on the Republican National Party, and that was Reince Priebus.
	And I do call out Reince and Mike Pence.
	Mike Pence was pulled in from the sidelines to be the Vice President.
	We'll get to Mike Pence.
	I want to ask you what you really think of him in a moment, but I want to ask a selfish question, sir, if I may.
	So there's a former chief of station for the CIA, who you know, who's a patriot, who came to me in the first few months of the administration and then told me that there's a group of four contractors at the NSA who are surveilling me and Steve Bannon and others in the White House.
	The NSA are surveilling our communications.
	My wife, who was a presidential appointee, The Department of Homeland Security was informed by a counter-terrorism specialist that the intelligence services of Italy, I don't know why, had a lead that Seb Gorka, Steve Bannon and others are being surveilled in the White House by US intelligence.
	I'm just selfishly going to ask you, Mike, why on earth, I know there's this Mifsud connection, What is the Italian connection to finding out why the deep state is surveilling presidential appointees?
	Do you have a theory?
	Yeah, I do.
	And part of it is the connection between not only the chief of station and the Italian intelligence services, chief of station there in Rome, but the Italian intelligence services with the CIA to be able to do Sort of, I would just call surreptitious collection, right?
	Spying on behalf of the CIA to benefit things that the CIA wants to do.
	So using liaison, foreign liaison services to get around the constitutional requirements.
	And not the Five Eyes, because there's another set of rules for the Five Eyes, meaning like, you know, the British, the Australians.
	Canadians and New Zealand as well as the United States.
	But so to go outside the five eyes and use another intelligence liaison service
	to be able to do that is not out of the ordinary.
	And this shows you though, the bigger issue here, Seb, is it shows you the CIA manipulation and undermining of a
	presidency, you know, that they didn't like.
	They did not want Donald J. Trump to be the president of the United States.
	And of course, they tried every damn thing that they could prior.
	And then once he won, then they slipped in this annex, this unclassified annex into a classified document.
	And basically allowed it to be used.
	And if you questioned it, the answer from the media and the answer from the talking heads on TV that represented the intelligence community, principally the CIA, could say, well, it's been vetted, so don't ask us.
	This has been vetted by the 17 intel agencies.
	And that allowed them to then hide a whole range of misgivings and undermining and And criminal activities.
	I mean, this is what we are facing.
	And the fourth column of the United States government, which is probably the most powerful column that exists right now, remains to be—we can call it the intelligence community, but it's really the CIA.
	And this is why we can get into the people that came in in the Trump administration, You know, Gina Haspel, Mike Pompeo.
	He's another one.
	Paul Ryan, who we haven't raised yet.
	I show a little picture cameo of him in the film, in the movie.
	Because Paul Ryan, remember, was the Speaker of the House.
	Yeah.
	So he should have had extraordinary authority and power to help the President, to be able to get the President's agenda forward rapidly.
	And instead, he was another one that stood by and undermined Trump.
	And that, and the way that he was able to undermine Trump, I'm talking about Paul Ryan now, never mind the CIA, is that they had their dupe, two of them, in the White House.
	You had Reince Priebus, who was a longtime associate of Paul Ryan's from up in Wisconsin, and then you had Mike Pence, who was a longtime political person, congressman and then governor, and pulled in from the sidelines because they could control Mike Pence easily.
	So he was the tool for getting you out of the White House?
	Hugely.
	Oh yeah, big time, big time.
	time, big time.
	But, you know, and to this day, to this day, another piece of breaking news for you, for
	your audience, you know, whether they care or not.
	But to this day, since when Trump called me up about my pardon back in November of 2020,
	I have never heard, I've never heard from Mike Pence.
	I haven't spoken to Mike Pence since the night I left the White House.
	That ought to tell you everything.
	Since the night I left the White House, that's the first time I've said that outside of the movie.
	Well, I think that tells you everything we need to know.
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	General Flynn, I know this is a tough question, but I'm a kind of strategy wonk, as you are.
	You're more of an intel strategy wonk.
	I feel like I have to ask this question.
	What's the greatest threat to America?
	Is it external or is it internal?
	Is it China or is it the deep state?
	It's definitely internal.
	There's no doubt right now it is internal.
	You know, we can defeat any foreign foe that takes, like Lincoln said, takes a drink from the Ohio or takes a step on the Blue Ridge.
	We can defeat any foreign foe.
	Right now, our biggest challenge, our biggest national security challenge is right here at home, domestically.
	And it is a weaponized government.
	And that weaponized government has taken control of very, very serious levers of power And some of those are, of course, our homeland security, our justice system, and our law enforcement, our senior law enforcement organizations, plural.
	And a lot of this revolves around what the CIA is able to control.
	And in the past, under a guy like Hoover with the FBI, he was always trying to compromise politicians.
	That shifted to the CIA back in probably the latter part of the 80s and into the 90s, definitely into the 90s, where that Where that compromising of political people and tracking of political people, I'm talking about U.S.
	politicians and other U.S.
	personnel by the CIA.
	That then, you know, was amplified after 9-11, where we should have been going after the terrorists around the world like you and I, you know, have been fighting for 20, 25 years.
	And instead, what they did was they turned their sights on America.
	They worked with the FBI.
	They clearly didn't work with the FBI.
	They created these liaison cells—they call them interagency task forces—but these liaison cells, mainly between the CIA and the FBI, so they could say, well, it's a domestic spying operation, which means the FBI is supposed to do it.
	So the CIA would liaise with the FBI and conduct The spying operation, and they'd say, well, it's being done domestically by the right organization, the FBI, when in fact it was driven by the CIA.
	So this is really bad.
	This is really, really bad.
	This is the kind of stuff that has to be stopped, and there have to be people held accountable.
	It's not just holding people accountable for what happened, you know, for them coming after me or going after Trump.
	It's holding people accountable who are subverting You know, and it doesn't mean that he's got to be vindictive.
	It just means that he's got to do the things that matter for the American people to feel confident in our system of government.
	Because right now, the American people have lost confidence in the Department of Justice.
	They've lost confidence In our law enforcement, our senior law enforcement, they don't like the CIA at all.
	They think that the CIA is, you know, like what I'm talking about.
	And the worst place where I really feel they've lost confidence is in our military, which just kills me to no end.
	I mean, I don't want the moms and dads out there of America to lose confidence in our military,
	especially our uniformed military, but I'm afraid that that is already starting to happen.
	And we're seeing that in some internal polls that they take for the way people see
	the different elements of government.
	I mean, clearly they've lost confidence in Congress, but when we start to see a breakdown of the confidence
	in the US armed forces, that tells me everything about this cultural shift that these Marxists,
	Marxist left is trying to achieve inside of the United States of America.
	That's why I say domestically is where our greatest problem, our greatest threats lie.
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	If the only answer to that question is the pain, He's taking these shots, this antagonism, this taunting to the intelligence community.
	You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.
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	General Flynn, I've got to ask you this question.
	You heard Chuck Schumer threaten President Trump.
	Who is the most dangerous of all?
	We've got a photograph of somebody nobody ever talks about, except until recently President Trump mentioned her.
	Lisa Monaco, Obama's counter-terrorism advisor, the Deputy Attorney General who is really running the Department of Justice.
	Is she the epicenter?
	Is it Brennan?
	You should know.
	Who are the most egregious, anti-constitutionalist, deep state activists who have to be dealt with?
	Yeah, so a couple.
	She's one for sure.
	The Deputy Attorney General of the United States of America, Lisa Monaco, she's been in Washington, D.C.
	for so long and worked directly inside the office of the White House, very, very close A friend and advisor to Susan Rice.
	Susan Rice, of course, is out of the White House now.
	She stepped away a little over a year ago.
	She still has her fingers on everything.
	And that's, again, Lisa Monaco.
	Avril Haines.
	Avril Haines is the Director of National Intelligence.
	She's got the most senior intelligence position in the country.
	She is not like Jim Clapper, where Jim Clapper had that same role.
	Jim Clapper was a Duke.
	for the Obama administration and really subordinated himself to John Brennan.
	Averill Haines does not.
	She works very closely with the current Director of the CIA and she works very closely with the Office of the President and principally the current National Security Advisor Sullivan and of course Blinken.
	Not so much with the Department of Defense in terms of Austin, but the deputy secretary of defense.
	So there's people that are positioned in critical jobs that don't see, you know, they're not out there in the limelight because they're not the secretary, they're not the director.
	Like Monaco being the deputy AG.
	April Haynes.
	Nope, you don't ever hear about April Haynes, even though she's the Director of National Intelligence.
	You might see her in a congressional hearing every so often.
	But these are the people that are running the show.
	And for Schumer, for Chuck Schumer, when he said that, that is one of the most outrageous, undermining statements that anybody in his position could make.
	Basically, it is a threat to the President of the United States of America.
	A direct threat.
	And it's coming from a very senior person in the legislative branch and he's talking about an organization that he basically said that they are going to You know, undermine the President of the United States.
	And guess what?
	They did.
	Yeah.
	That is a direct threat to the Constitution.
	It's a direct threat to the American people.
	It's a direct threat to the presidency of the United States of America.
	And guess what, Seb?
	And your great, smart audience.
	That's exactly what they did.
	Now, I will say that this is not a Democrat and a Republican issue.
	Because once Trump got in, he put people in charge over there.
	One of them being Mike Pompeo.
	And then, of course, Pompeo moved from there to being the Secretary of State.
	And it actually took Rick Grenell to come out of out of Europe and spend, I think, Rick spent all of about three months.
	And Rick ended up breaking all kinds of news with with disclosing some of the some of the I want to reinforce we had high hopes of Mike Pompeo.
	He was utterly, utterly captured by the swamp.
	Big time.
	Because Mike is a lifetime politician.
	And that's what happens when you get caught up in Washington, D.C.
	for far too long and you have ambitions to be something more than what you're being asked to do.
	If you're asked to be the director of the CIA, get in there and fix the problems that exist, because there are many, and do the job that it is supposed to do instead of undermining the president of the United States.
	Mike did not do that.
	He brought in Gina Haspel.
	I can tell you again, breaking news on this show, she was not the first choice.
	You know, and I won't go into who the first choice was, but the first choice did not want to come back because he, he feared, he actually feared the corruption and he didn't want to be put into a position of a leadership position.
	He was a longtime CIA officer, a great, great officer.
	I worked with quite a bit and he refused to take the job because he was just, he goes, it's just too, it's too corrupt.
	And so Gina Haspel was brought in.
	And Gina, when the first guy said no, then Gina Haspel was presented as somebody who, you know, we got to have her.
	We got to have her, right?
	And so she was taken.
	And now we start to look, you know, you start to peel this onion back like we have been able to do for the last, I mean, almost eight years now, Seb.
	And we now see what was, you know, what's at the center, what's at the core of this rot.
	And it's a it's an incredible level of corruption.
	It's a it's power at the center of it.
	And this is what they want to hold on to.
	And they don't want a president of the United States of America.
	Now I'm talking about the CIA.
	They don't want the president of the United States of America telling them what to do.
	Well, guess what?
	They work for the president.
	Everybody in the executive branch works for the president.
	This is why we've got to get Trump back in, because I know that Trump has learned a lot of lessons, and he's learning some every single day as he goes through this madness that all of us are being forced to watch.
	being forced to, you know, it's on full display, right, to watch.
	And Trump has learned a lot of lessons about people.
	And you know, I mean, they say when you go into the presidency of the United States,
	you got to hire about three or four thousand people.
	Not this time.
	You got to hire the right people.
	And that's that's where I'm at right now in terms of, you know, being asked about going back in or would I do this?
	Would I do that?
	Absolutely.
	I would go back in and serve because that's you know, and I know you would do the same thing, too, if you were asked, because this is the type of fiber that you're made of.
	And to me, this is all about the people.
	We have got to get The people, right?
	And we've got to reform some of these organizations and we've got to get rid of them.
	We've got to downsize many of them.
	And they don't want to hear that.
	They don't want to hear that because that takes away their power.
	Yeah, we will talk about what plans have to be executed if, God willing, we do our part and President Trump becomes the 47th president.
	We've only got a few moments left.
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	It made me very... I knew all the facts.
	But even then, it made me very, very angry.
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	Yeah, video.
	Okay, come in with it and then I'll mention the photograph.
	United States of America!
	And to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
	I remember when I was told that little man was on his way.
	I love that rendition of the allegiance to the greatest nation on God's green earth.
	General Flynn, who is that handsome young man?
	That's my grandson.
	That's my son Michael's son.
	And he's one of the reasons why, you know, when I had to make a really, really difficult decision.
	They forced you to plead guilty for a crime you did not commit.
	Otherwise, they would charge your son with a crime he did not commit.
	I want to show this photograph from happier days.
	make it again. They came up, they forced you to plead guilty for a crime you did
	not commit otherwise they would they would charge your son with a crime he
	did not commit. I want to show this photograph from happier days this is one
	of the first times we ever met this was not far from from your office in Alexandria, me holding your book,
	Field of Fight, and you holding my book, Defeating Jihad.
	Look at those handsome young men there.
	General Flynn, what is it that kept you sane and kept you fighting and made it so
	that you never surrendered?
	Yeah, I will tell you that it was my faith.
	My faith strengthened all during this time.
	And I say in the film that I found my faith through my family, and of course my wife and I,
	Lori, as you know, you know her, her and I have been together for a long, long time,
	since we were, known each other since we were 13 years old.
	So my faith was really what strengthened my conviction about fighting back and not giving up
	and making tough decisions.
	I always had this you know this very strong faith that I believed that because I knew I was right you know and my family knew I was right and my family knew that there was nothing there but I had to get out of this this horrible place that I was at to include the former lawyers that I had yeah and find and find somebody willing to fight for me so then I found that And that's how I think President Trump called it.
	The pardon that he issued to you was the innocence pardon, right?
	The only ever innocence pardon because you hadn't been convicted, you were innocent and you needed to have it underscored.
	All right, so let's get to the real meat.
	What has to happen for patriots like yourself, your son, the praying grandmother from January 6, Navarro Bannon, not to be attacked and targeted by a political intelligence community and a federal law enforcement?
	If, God willing, President Trump is re-elected, we do our part.
	What concrete things have to happen, General?
	Well, a couple of things.
	I think clearly the Department of Justice needs a complete wire brushing, scrubbing, scrubbing down and a reform, especially in the Assistant Attorney General's office in Washington, D.C.
	Parts of that, like the National Security Division inside of that organization, and there's a couple of other I do think that we have a bigger, more strategic thing that Trump is going to have to do.
	Overall, it's probably five, 600 people inside the Assistant Attorney General's office that
	are just so weaponized against the American people.
	That's right there in Washington.
	That's number one.
	I do think that we have sort of a bigger, more strategic thing that Trump is going to
	have to do.
	He's going to have to reform or get rid of the Department of Education.
	I don't think I could go back into government service if we did not reform or eliminate.
	I prefer to eliminate the Department of Education.
	The other organization of course is the FBI.
	The FBI is going to need to be—you know, their culture, the culture inside of the FBI is out of control.
	Ray is out of control.
	He was such the wrong person for Trump to hire.
	And I know why he hired him, because first he brought him to him and said, this is the guy you want to have to replace Comey.
	And what a terrible choice that ended up being, as we've seen.
	And then, of course, what we've already talked about with the CIA, And there are other parts of our government, but the most important thing, Seb, I think is the people that are going to come in as the leaders of these organizations.
	They have to have the guts to act.
	And they have to have the authority given to them by Trump to act.
	I will tell you, let's assume Trump gets back into office, which by all rights he should.
	And if the Senate still is maintained by the left, they are going to try to block every single nominee that Trump puts into office.
	Well, Trump can override all that.
	He can do a lot.
	He can say, you know what?
	Too bad.
	You know what?
	We're not going to follow that rule.
	And he can do that.
	to write documents and put these people in.
	Like, there was a couple of people who were acting.
	Tell Obama had acting people in many of his — during his eight years of administration,
	and they did all kinds of things to destroy this country.
	So Trump is going to need to really hire good, strong leaders who are willing to act
	and do have the knowledge of how our government operates.
	I do think that there are some people that he put in charge, like a Rex Tillerson as an example, and others who just didn't have any idea about how, like in this case, the State Department functioned.
	You've got to have people that know how those places work.
	But you have to have strong leaders.
	The leaders know how to make decisions and know how to act.
	And we can't have another Jeff Sessions, God help us, going back in as the Attorney General.
	I mean, as soon as he was appointed in that job, he just gave up.
	And look at what happened.
	The country was taken through the wringer.
	Well, we're saying there's election interference maybe inside of our government somewhere, maybe inside of our states.
	all the left argue, all they cried about all for Donald Trump's four years was
	election interference, in this case by Russia, by a foreign entity. Well, God,
	what we're saying there's election interference maybe inside of our
	government somewhere, maybe inside of our states. All we want to do is just
	check into it. We cannot have this back and forth.
	We need strong leaders, and that's what Donald Trump's going to have to bring in with him.
	And I know he knows that.
	Well, it's up to everyone listening to this show, everyone who loves America, to follow the lead of patriots like yourself.
	We salute you for your decades in service in uniform and out of uniform.
	We've been talking to the 24th U.S.
	National Security Advisor.
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