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May 8, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka
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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: President Trump's ready to go to jail
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♪♪ And so if you watch the judge in New York, the most important battlefield of this entire campaign is an appointed corrupt judge in New York who I believe is about to put Donald Trump in prison.
And that's a very dangerous thing.
It's dangerous to our Constitution.
By what right does an appointed local judge put somebody who is the nominee of their party, former president, in prison?
But he's openly told us twice now, in two weeks, that it's going to happen.
And I think it's very dangerous at the most basic of levels.
Just ask yourself, what would it be like to be Trump in prison in New York?
It's hard to disagree with the former Speaker of the House.
Welcome friends.
This is America First with your host Sebastian Gorka.
I was in Philly with our listeners yesterday and with the great Chris Stigall.
I don't know, you may be able to tell I had five very large cigars last night.
I think at least half an octave lower.
It was an amazing night.
But that doesn't change what's going on around us.
Are they going to put President Trump behind bars?
They want to imprison him on totally made-up, gerrymandered, ferny charges.
Georgia's collapsing.
The case in Florida on documents, my God, the final revelations of the last few hours have been shocking about what the FBI did at Mar-a-Lago.
Judge Cannon has put a stay on that trial, won't proceed because of what she found out about evidence handling.
And we're left, really, with Manhattan.
Where on Monday, the Biden donor judge, whose daughter makes millions of dollars, From the Democrat Party, from Kamala Harris, the Vice President, from Adam Schiff, the man who orchestrated the Russia-Russia hoax in Congress, that judge fined the President again and said on Monday, what?
If you do it again, if you talk about this trial on social media, I'll put you in jail.
I don't want to!
Yeah, right.
But I'll put you in jail.
President Trump responded to that on Monday.
I'd like to play it again for you.
It's a shortcut, 30-odd seconds.
And you need to listen to it because it is a measure of who he is, his commitment to you, to this nation, to the Constitution, and really heightens the probability That that Democrat judge, Biden donor, will put President Trump behind bars before there's any sentencing, purely on contempt of court charges, because President Trump is exercising his First Amendment rights.
Play the cut, please, Eric.
And it's a disgrace.
And then you have the other thing that maybe is even more disgraceful is the gay corner.
Where I can't basically, I have to watch every word I tell you people.
You ask me a question, a simple question, I'd like to give it, but I can't talk about it.
Because this judge has given me a gag order and said you'll go to jail if you violate it.
And frankly, you know what?
Our Constitution is much more important than jail.
It's not even close.
I'll do that sacrifice any day.
But what's happening here is a disgrace to the appellate court so to get involved.
I'll make that sacrifice any day.
Would you make that sacrifice?
Not for your children.
Not for your wife or your husband.
Would you make it for the piece of paper written centuries ago?
Would you do it for the US Constitution?
Did you hear what he just said?
The Constitution is more important than me going to jail.
I'll make that sacrifice any day.
And I think he will.
My friend Dan Bongino said he should.
He should just keep on talking.
And what happens then?
The judge has to put him in jail or he looks completely feckless and without any power or position.
Last night, at the Cigar Republic in Contra Hocken, with our amazing listeners for AM 990, Chris Tagal was the host, as ever an incredibly gracious host.
I was asked a question by the audience about, is he going to go to jail and what happens then?
And I answered, and Chris caught it on camera.
Let's play that cut.
That's it, he's won.
I get to go on video.
How about a hurrah for the video?
Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!
Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!
Out of curiosity, how many of you are hurrah-pers in the room?
Just out of curiosity.
Look at that, the loyal Harumphers.
God bless you.
Not too late, by the way.
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Members of the Harumph Society, that is Chris' club for his loyal listeners, and they asked me the question, what happens if he goes to jail?
If he goes to jail, if they put him in Riker's Island, he's won.
That's it.
He's won.
I think half of black America will say, really?
They've done that to him after they did it to me or my nephew.
And I'm not trying to tempt fate or exaggerate.
Listen to the mayor of New York, also a Democrat, about what he wants to do and what they're getting ready for.
Eric Adams, cut 14.
So at President Trump's trial, they were talking about how he might end up in jail if he continues to violate his court orders.
Is Rikers prepared for that?
Do you guys have those discussions yet?
And if so, what would that even look like?
Our amazing commissioner, she is prepared for whatever comes on Rikers Island.
I'm pretty sure she would be prepared to manage and deal with That guy has to be one of the dumbest people to ever hold the office of mayor in any city.
What a cretin.
He thinks his handmade Italian suits make him smart.
They don't.
You're still a moron, okay?
deal with a hypothetical, but they're professionals, they'll be ready.
She's laughing.
The journalist asks, is Rikers Island, that hellhole, ready for President Trump to be locked in a cell there?
And she laughs!
She laughs!
And then he gives, oh yeah, we're ready.
Ready for what?
Ready for civil war?
Ready for the Democrats to be seen for what?
The KKK creating racist bigoted party That killed Abraham Lincoln because one Democrat actor couldn't stand slaves being liberated.
The party that stood against the Civil Rights Act.
The party that today has its minions shouting, from the river to the sea.
Yeah, that's the Democrat Party.
I'm Sebastian Gawke.
It's good to be back.
I'm angry.
But so should you be.
Thank you for Mark Davis yesterday sitting in the chair.
You did an amazing job.
I listened to him on my way down to Philly.
All right.
We've only just begun.
An incredible lineup today.
Lee Smith, Julie Kelly.
We're going to have Jen Holm, the president's attorney.
Boris Epstein.
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Yep.
Yep.
You ready?
This is Alvin Bragg's star witness in the Stormy Daniels case.
He's a great witness.
Why is this never Trump never Trump attorney so sad about the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case being
delayed?
Three minutes and he's online.
4.
Do you hate the view as much as I do?
Thank you.
Listen to the Haridans, H-A-R-I-D-A-N-S, Haridans, cackle about, cackle like hyenas, about President Trump being
imprisoned.
Why is Biden, next one, why is Biden's former propagandist At Jen Psaki.
Talking about President Trump dying.
Question mark.
10.
One of the wisest minds in America.
He's got a Twitter, right?
Newt Gingrich?
I think so, yeah.
At Newt Gingrich.
Believes Judge Murchan Is going to imprison President Trump on contempt.
Next line.
I think he's right.
Next line.
Do you agree?
Oh, I need his books.
Plot against and permanent coup.
14.
The mayor of New York is preparing
to put President Trump in Rikers Island.
Island.
...
Next line.
And you thought they weren't serious about stealing the election.
Next line.
This time they won't need mail-in ballots.
One minute.
Where's our guest?
He was there a moment ago, I think he's... He'll be back shortly.
Just need titles for Julie in the monologue.
Oh, there he is.
Yes!
Yes!
Oh wow, it looks really... Is it too bright?
Is it okay?
Am I alright?
It's a little bright, it's a little hot.
Might be the white shirt, yeah.
It's a little hot.
30 seconds.
You wanna come in with something here?
Come in with the view, then I'll do the cruise, and then I'll tee up the Ticob.
Come with cut four, and then tee up.
Is this better?
Perfect.
Perfect.
Thanks for watching!
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Yes.
But which prison would be best?
I know which one.
I'm gonna give you Michael.
Well, that's what I asked.
Number one is Riker.
But, you know, I'm okay if he goes to Alcatraz and they reopen it.
Maybe.
You know, what about Guantanamo Bay?
Okay?
That'd be close to Mar-a-Lago.
Melania can come and visit.
That's right.
Jeff, put your headset back on.
I've got to ask you this.
Explain to me.
I know I'm an immigrant.
How does anybody watch The View and enjoy it?
When's The View on?
I don't know.
Middle of the day.
It's for people that don't work.
But they're like witches.
They're like the three witches from Macbeth.
Yeah, they get, I think, about a million people a day.
There's a million people that don't work.
They're mad at their lives.
They hate Trump.
So they go to it for their therapy.
OK.
Thank you for explaining that.
I'm angry.
I need a break.
I need to hang out with patriots.
Last night was amazing.
Oh, let's put the photograph up of Chris and me with the Conshohocken police who secured our location yesterday.
Of course, big fans of Chris's show and my show.
Thank you, gentlemen.
You know who you are.
And enjoy the Oliva cigars I picked out for you.
I hand-picked some cigars out from the humidor for those fine, fine gentlemen.
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All right, what an amazing lineup today.
Julie Kelly in the third hour, Boris Epstein, the president's attorney, and Jennifer Horne in the second.
But let's start it off with the big guns.
The man who wrote all of this before anybody else did.
The man who understood the plot against the president and the permanent coup.
Those are good names for books.
Oh yeah, those are the books that he wrote.
The one, the only, Lee Smith.
Welcome back to America First.
Thank you, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Always a pleasure to be with you.
Maybe especially when things seem most absurd and darkest, it's always great to be cheered by you, especially by your sense of good humor, your wit.
And of course your voice.
Well, that's too kind.
You're kind of stealing my thunder because I wanted to get personal with you first as well, because I just watched General Flynn's movie, which everybody has to watch.
Flynn, you can get it at SalemNow.com.
The truth about what happened to him, his family, that's at SalemNow.com.
And we had General Flynn on the show and we're going to get him back for a longer discussion.
And you're one of the stars of the movie.
And I gotta ask you, because I've known you for years now.
I've got hypertension that I inherited from my dad, but it's also part of my character.
I run hot, and I get angry, and when I relive the story of what happened to my friend and colleague, General Flynn, I really get enraged.
What they did to that man, what they did to his family.
And even when you're being interviewed in that movie, It's like when you come on my show, you are so chill.
What are your beats per minute?
Are you like 50 beats per minute?
How are you always so calm, Lee Smith?
I'm glad to hear you say that, because I think all the time that I'm screaming.
No!
You know, I think all the time, oh boy, I really ranted there.
I mean, I'm sure I've ranted before in the past.
Look, because I think that one of the most important things, Seb, that you and I and all of our colleagues and all of our friends and your audience, especially that the most important thing we can do is explain things clearly to either ourselves or to others, people who can be persuaded, people who can understand things.
So I think really that's, we're at such a key moment and all of us, the people, your listeners, your viewers, You know, they know what it's like to be surrounded by people like you're talking conspiracy theories like, no, look, let me walk you through this and explain this to you.
Just be fair and hear me out.
So I try to I try to do that.
And believe me, I know that I that I rant and you can ask my my my wife and our toddler.
I'm not always that cool.
Well, you have very impressive self-control or command of your emotions because I get so angry.
Let's talk about one of the breaking news items today.
Fannie Willis' case against the President, at least that is utterly collapsed.
This absurd decision from Judge McAfee that Either she resigns or stops having sex with Nathan Wade and then she can go on persecuting President Trump.
President Trump's attorneys, I mean that's what he said, he said either you fire yourself or you fire him and don't have sex with him.
It's like, what, is Judge McAfee going to be in the bedroom watching that they're not boyfriend and girlfriend anymore?
But today, in Georgia, the President's team has been permitted an appeal Well, I have to say I'm a little surprised by everything we're seeing, Seb, because my assumption is that these people are crazy and my assumption is that they will push it.
They have.
They've pushed it as far as they can.
What I'm always surprised by is when there are actual constitutional roadblocks, or when there are people who are rational standing in their way, or when there are laws and regulations that stop them from what they're doing.
Because they're fanatics.
They are Maoists.
I'm like, thank goodness.
This is a very good sign for America.
Not all of our constitutional order is in ruins.
It appears that there are certain roadblocks.
And again, there's certain, certain people that are, I mean, you saw how people responded to that, the Stormy Daniels testimony and people were appalled, right?
I mean, so I'm, I'm, I'm surprised you just showed something about the view and that's the way that I, that I think that they too often see the world.
I mean, they're sick, damaged people.
They have this coarse, vile sense of humor, and laughing about people's pain, laughing about how people have been destroyed.
So that's how I think they generally tend to operate.
But when you see people who are like, actually, Stormy Daniels, that's really gross what she did, and this is over the top, and all these people are nuts.
So thank God.
It tells us That normal America is still the core of our country.
That it's only the freaks who are on TV, right?
And of course, important positions throughout Washington.
But remember, what is core America?
That reminds us of what makes us most hopeful and confident in our country.
As long as we have people like you shining a light on the corruption, please follow Lee.
He'll stay with us for another segment at LeeSmithDC, author of The Plot Against the President, which is an amazing movie by our friend Amanda Milius, and The Permanent Coup, and also star of the new Flynn movie at SalemNow.com.
You need to watch it.
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Getting Katie on to talk about her new book Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, should I, do I give them her contact info?
She came on... Yeah, so, what's up?
She came on my show last week.
Oh, very nice.
Hang on a second.
Sorry, one second.
We're planning the next guest.
Ty Lasseter?
We've had him on before.
Lasseter.
No, you gave me this thing.
He's not on here.
Just give me his title, so I have it.
I'm checking now.
Yeah, can you give them her email?
And her cell phone?
What?
CEO?
Oh wow, okay.
Do you need it?
Do you know her email and cell?
Ty Laster is the CEO of Key City.
Do you need it?
Do you know her email and cell?
I think I have it.
Let me triple check.
Let's see.
I have her, yes I have her Gmail and I have her number.
Great.
Yeah, just tell them to contact her directly.
Directly.
You got it.
All right, two and a half minutes.
I'm sending you the letter from Georgia.
Oh, OK.
The appeals letter.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry, Lee.
Yeah, that movie just brought it all back.
It was like PTSD.
I got so pissed 20 minutes into that movie.
Do you want to talk about that for a minute or two?
Yeah.
I'd love to say how important General Flynn's story is, and also to talk about clarity, what people don't know.
I mean, these guys told me, they said, you know, a lot of people don't understand that General Flynn, you know, a lot of people think General Flynn went to jail.
Right.
So this movie is really clarifying... Eric, can you run... We had B-roll, didn't we, of the movie?
No.
We didn't have B-roll?
No, we did not.
Oh, well, then just, when I talk about it, just put up the poster, right?
The poster, yeah, yeah, I can get that.
Okay, good.
Yeah, let's talk about that.
Yeah, that'd be great.
Let me, if you can do it next week, because I think when I've got Mike on for an hour, can you come back for an hour and then we'll just map it all again?
That would be great.
Next week, I'm going to be, I'm going to be out on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Okay.
If you can do it Monday or Friday, that would be best for me because I'm traveling, I'm traveling Tuesday and Wednesday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jeff, you just told Jeff what works.
Yeah, so Monday or Friday.
Going anywhere fun?
Well, for work I'm going down to Sarasota to speak with Devin about Truth Social because I've got a big project on that.
A big book on Truth Social and the communications wars.
I'm really kind of trying to crash it through.
I had a great interview with Great interview with the president a couple weeks ago talking about Truth Social and other things.
Oh, when we saw each other at Mar-a-Lago.
Oh, during the party.
Good.
Yeah, but I spoke with him for a little bit the next day.
And, you know, we talked about a lot of the stuff that he talked about, that really amazing, totally energetic evening.
I mean, again, this is like for 45 minutes to an hour or whatever it was.
I mean, I'd love to be able to remember everything that he said.
I recorded it.
I'll send it to you.
You did?
I did.
Wait, you did?
I recorded the whole thing.
Can you send it to me?
I'll send it to you.
Yeah.
I'm going to text you later.
Now, she has not honored the public's interest in the matter. She has not. She has not. She's
not honored the public's interest for one day in this case, as she has sat in her office
apparently paralyzed from ruling on easily resolvable motions.
And sadly, this case will not go to trial, notwithstanding the fact that it's one of the most important cases in history and could have easily been tried in advance of the election.
Oh, the never-Trump-er former Trump attorney Ty Cobb, he's crying that the Mar-a-Lago case has been postponed.
Why is he crying about it?
Is he annoyed that the FBI tampered with the evidence?
We now know those classified document covers weren't on the floor in Mar-a-Lago.
The FBI agents took them on the raid to use as props.
We told you it was all fake.
And then they apologized to Judge Cannon that some of the boxes were rearranged and they don't know what happened to the contents.
Rule one, I've seen every police procedural.
You've got to have a chain of custody!
Inadmissible.
Thrown out.
God bless Judge Cannon.
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We're back with Lee Smith, the author of Essential Reading on the Deep State, The Plot Against the President, also a great movie.
And The Permanent Coup now starring in the film about General Flynn with his superlative analysis.
The new movie Flynn, we had the General discuss it earlier on the show, earlier this week.
You have to watch it.
SalemNow.com.
Can you talk about why it's important to discuss the case of this one manly Yes.
Well, first of all, I want to say that it's very generous of you, Seb.
I'm not starring in it, of course.
They very kindly asked me, and the Flynn's have been, I should say the Flynn's, in particular General Flynn, but the Flynn family as a whole has been incredibly kind and generous to me and my family in a number of different ways.
So God bless them.
I mean, but of course, all Americans, I think that one of the most moving things about their story And I don't know if my saying this got into the film, but one of the most moving things about the story is, of course, it was about General Flynn under fire, but it was also about an entire family under fire.
This entire family who came to the defense of their brother.
And it's wonderful to see not just his wife, Laura, but to see his brother, his sister, his son.
Everybody goes on screen and it's so powerful.
And this is one of the things that has to, as terrible, the story is terrible, but one of the most rousing things about the story, it's just an incredible story, because it's like all Americans want a family like that, right?
And that's who we should be to each other as Americans.
Hey, you're down.
How can I help you?
How can I protect you?
How can I support you?
What can I do for you?
Because no one touches my blood.
No one touches one of our own.
You're here with us.
God bless you.
And that, just to go back to that scene you had from The View, is entirely the opposite.
Kicking people when they're down, it's just despicable.
We should be able to have oppositional, adversarial politics without wishing death.
and destruction on our opponents.
I certainly do, but all Americans should be able to do that.
But when the chips are really down, we should always be able to count on each other.
9-11, don't worry, we're going to stand together.
I'll protect you, you'll protect me, everything's going to be okay.
And that's one of the most moving things about the Flynn moving.
We've only got a minute left and we've discussed in the break, we're going to get you back for an hour, but why is it important to talk about this case?
You said something interesting in the break.
A lot of people do not understand what happened because there was so much negative media attention targeting General Flynn.
A lot of people don't understand basic things like the fact that General Flynn didn't go to jail and General Flynn never committed a crime.
Right?
This is what happened.
So when President Trump pardoned him, as much as General Flynn was grateful for the pardon, and the family was grateful for the pardon, like, but I didn't do anything wrong.
Even the Department of Justice recognized there was no crime, right?
Nothing bad happened.
So it's very important for people to understand the story about what was done to General Flynn and how General Flynn and his family fought it.
It's important for understanding the family and what happened, what happened to General Flynn, a great American hero, great patriot, but also what these animals are doing.
To our country as a whole.
And why, why, why there must be justice.
Those who politically targeted from January 6 grandmothers praying in the Capitol to President Trump, they cannot be allowed to get away with it and they must face justice after we do our part, God willing, and President Trump is re-elected.
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That's great because what I want is I'm going to put it into a transcript machine and get someone to edit.
That's fantastic.
Yeah, because he speaks so much about truth.
I'll text you to remind you about that right now.
Just text me.
It's too big to send directly, so text me your email and then I'll send it to a file share service.
Thank you so much.
That's awesome.
Thanks.
And thanks for bringing me on today.
I'll talk to you later.
Talk to you next week.
Thanks, buddy.
Alright, thanks Seb, see ya.
Thanks Lee.
Schlate!
Okay, uh, need titles for everything.
Yeah, hang on, I just got it.
Yeah.
And I got that headline, Wall Street Journal.
Which one?
The one for today.
Can you show it to me?
It is, hang on, uh, this one.
Jobs report, $175,000.
Jobs report today.
What?
Is that what it's about?
That's the one that was in the, because it doesn't say the headline, but it was way less than expectations.
Yeah.
The headline omits that.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Then I probably won't read it out.
You could just put it on screen, but I won't read the headline because it doesn't match the questions.
Right.
Okay.
Sir, can I get a mic check please?
Sorry?
He's on the line.
Trying to get a mic check from our guest.
Okay.
Check, check.
Dr. Gorka, how are you doing today?
Good, good.
It's been a while.
What's with Steve and is he like on a sickie?
Mic's are hot.
I wish I was with him.
He's over in Ireland playing golf right now.
Oh, hard life, hard life.
It's a tough life.
He's got a couple of our investors over there and then his brother and his dad.
Fun.
All right, so we're going to talk about this jobs story, but really what I want to pivot quickly to because I had an event with listeners last night talking about the expectations from the Fed and what that means for you guys and for investors.
OK, perfect.
I like it.
All right.
Stand by.
And I play this disclaimer as soon as you finish.
As soon as I finish, you can just drop it and then I'll do the read.
Copy that.
Titles.
Julie Mono Lee.
Mono, um... Talking to Trump, willing to go to jail.
President Trump's ready to go to jail for you.
Lee.
The truth about General Flynn.
Okay, the truth about General Flynn.
Coming with cuts I take you know, I think the central risk to Palantir and
America and the world is A regressive way of thinking that is corrupting and corroding
our institutions that calls itself progressive But actually and is called woke but is actually a form of a
thin pagan religion That is a real danger to our society and it is a real danger to Palantir if we allow, if we don't discuss these things.
Why is it, Eric, why do rich people think they dress like slobs?
I mean, that's the CEO of Palantir, one of the most important intelligence companies in America, and he looks like he got out of bed, his hair's a mess, and he's wearing the t-shirt he slept in.
I mean, I love the message that wokeism is a threat to society, but dude, put a stinking shirt on, right?
It's one of those trends, I think it definitely started with like tech CEOs, they gotta look, it's their way of standing out, oh we're not wearing the suits, we look We look just like you because we dress like slobs, kind of thing.
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We have an article discussing the reality of the labor market.
And then, what's going to happen with the Fed?
We had this amazing event last night in Philly.
One of the listeners asked me about, what's the Fed going to do?
Hey, I'm just a radio show host who knows about terrorism and national security.
I don't know about the Fed.
Let's ask a man who knows everything, the CEO of Key City Capital, Ty Lasseter.
Welcome back to America First.
Dr. Gorka, it's always great to be on here with you.
So tell us first about what this article says to you about the state of the economy, that the job market is really soft, we didn't get the results we expected.
What does that indicate for you first off?
Well, I think that it'll be a step towards moving inflation where the Fed wants it to be so that they can start softening the rates, which would be great for really all of economies from real estate to everything else that we're looking at in the market, but specifically real estate investments and the housing market.
And then what does that mean in terms of expectations?
A quarter of a point in the next month or two?
What are the whispers across the real estate world?
I mean, we've been hearing a quarter of a point is going to be the maximum.
I think they keep throwing that around, setting the expectation that it's not going to be better than that.
And then they put the word maximum in there to give them the ability to not move it as they have done in the last couple of sessions.
And so I've expected that I am preparing myself for no movement.
If we see a quarter point movement, that will be great.
We track the 10-year Treasury.
Most of our assets that we buy, when we go in and purchase those assets
and have some sort of renovation factor to be done, we're buying with bridge debt.
With the plan to move to permanent financing, once that construction is done
and once we've stabilized the asset.
And so right now, 10-year Treasury, I looked this morning, is trading right at 4 1⁄2.
So we're looking at 4 1⁄2 plus about 170 basis points by any lender that we get that agency debt from.
So we're still in the low sixes.
And our investments, our properties cashflow.
When we're in six to six and a half range on debt service.
And so as long as we can keep that four and a half and maybe creep down a little bit, which I've been, which, which the 10 year treasury has been trending towards, we're in a good place to get these assets stabilized that we're working with right now and, and move to permanent financing.
And we don't have the issues that we've seen for the last nine months or so.
But even... Look, I'm just the amateur.
I'm, you know, on the investor side of it.
You're the guys who are the pros at Key City.
Even if there is a soft landing, we're not going to go back to the... We're not going to go back in a hurry to my last refi a couple of years ago, which was like 3.2% or something.
It's still going to be a renter's market.
So that's why what you're doing is so crucial.
So what do you make available?
And talk about the tax deferral because that's what's really attractive.
Yeah, we're moving so quickly towards a renter's market and looking much more like the UK every day.
I mean, right now, the median cost to purchase a home right now across the United States, if you look at the median home price, which is hovering just around $400,000, At today's interest rate, we're looking at $2,800 a month to afford that home.
That's not taking into consideration insurance or taxes.
Median rent for the same asset right now for the same type of property across the United States is $1,800.
So we're seeing the largest disparity between purchasing and renting a property that America has ever seen.
That's $1,000 difference.
So that's $12,000 a year.
That's extra vacation.
And we're seeing families wanting the ability to have some flexibility now and not wanting to
get tied into a 30-year mortgage, and especially at 6% and 7%. The difference between a 6% or
7% mortgage and a 3% mortgage that we saw a little over a year ago is, again, another $1,200
to $1,500, depending on the size of that mortgage. And so we're seeing people that are not
wanting to tie into and make that And so for us, that's creating huge opportunity from the B-class assets to some of the new construction, new development communities that we're building right now.
We just finished a community In the DFW area we're starting a second build for rent community in the Dallas-Fort Worth area and so many of our assets are seeing a huge opportunity across this move to a renter nation and we're seeing demand outpace supply by about 30% and so we're definitely taking advantage of that and then one of the things that you brought up is taxes and the tax advantages of our investments and
That's where we pass through depreciation to our investors and so as they partake in our distributions and cash flow when we have positive cash flow in these assets, the taxes are deferred until we sell those assets for those investors and so they're really getting Currently a tax-free income on those investments.
It's a win-win.
You're not managing the rental property but you're getting tax deferral and it is something the market wants more and more of.
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Uh, you needed Julie, right?
We're going to go ahead and get started.
What was Julie?
Um...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
FBI caught tampering with evidence or something like that.
How the FBI rigged the Mar-a-Lago raid.
Yes.
That's so incredible.
But I told you at the time, I told you it was totally fake.
Yeah, no, it definitely looked staged, but the fact they actually admitted it, like if they lied before... When they got caught.
Why wouldn't they just keep lying at that point?
Like... Mm-hmm.
Oh man.
Took a little poll in the rumble chat earlier and overwhelmingly they do believe Merchant is going to jail
Trump.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Did a little... Oh, let's put that poll on the website.
Yes.
Okay, just yes or no.
Will he go to jail?
Alright.
Prison.
Yes.
No.
Alrighty.
Oh, we got so many bloody cuts.
Shit!
We've played a few.
Is cut 16 really 3 minutes?
No, it's 56 minutes.
Mark also wanted to play the HOKAL cut, but didn't get around to it yesterday.
I I don't know why it was controversial that we have to have
a secured border.
And then when you start to examine some of the numbers that are showing up at the border, the 270, 300,000 people.
And I would put that in the, uh, in, uh, for perspective for Pennsylvania, that that's the size of Pittsburgh a month.
And it's like, how can you take care of them?
How can you give them an American dream?
Uh, when that, and, and, uh, we need to get her, get ahold of that.
Uh, Eric, what cable platform was that?
That was Fox News.
And who was talking?
That is the junior senator from Pennsylvania, John Fetterman.
Fetterman?
On Fox?
The joke has been made before, but it looks like he has recovered from that stroke beautifully at this point.
And he says that we've got to secure the border.
He says we've got to secure the border, he's unapologetically pro-Israel, he's really coming around.
It's weird.
It's so weird.
Maybe it's because Democrat voters have had it with their own party.
Amazing video on NBC of Chicago residents who, um, they got an issue with that mayor, Brandon Johnson, who ran away from the reporter last week because they're putting illegals in the heart of their city.
Quite the video.
Cut 11.
Strong reactions tonight from residents after learning Mayor Brandon Johnson is considering plans to open a new temporary migrant shelter in their Southside neighborhood.
And he don't know where to put him?
Why would you put him in our neighborhood?
Why don't we go by your house?
All of that money that he's given them, we've been begging for years.
We've lived here our whole life.
We have a lot of bad things that happened here already.
We do not need this.
We just do not.
Located just blocks away from Guaranteed Rate Field, the proposed building near Canal and Pershing is in the city's 11th Ward.
Look at where it's at.
It's hidden in the back.
Why is that a good location?
We have no amenities here as it is.
Alderwoman Nicolee issued this letter to constituents yesterday saying she was notified earlier this week and met with the mayor on Thursday.
She says the city wants to move migrants staying at the Standard Club near the Dirksen Federal Building to her ward before the Democratic National Convention.
This is just insane.
It doesn't make sense.
Keep them downtown.
Keep them... I don't know.
I mean, this is not our problem.
All we want to do is Yeah, I think it does.
There's no way it helps them.
getting kicked to the side for the people who didn't do anything for this
country yet those men and women honorably served they should be coming
first. Jeff I'm curious does stuff like that matter I mean even you know
especially when it gets on to NBC that residents of Chicago are publicly
speaking out about what the Democrats are doing to them?
Yeah I think it does there's no way it helps them I think it's the way to that
they're bending over backwards to give illegals anything they need. Right.
So this'll be good in November.
At the very least, it's gonna cause people to sit it out.
Yeah, at least if they don't vote because they're so angry at their own party.
But maybe we just have to get them all the way over the line to our side.
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They're calling Jeff.
They're calling right now.
Jeff.
Oh, we're ringing.
Jeff.
Hefe.
Good job, you got that one.
Thank you.
And could you help me with that water? Thank you.
Three minutes.
OK.
What's going on?
This is so unstoppable, let me squeeze in here guys so I can...
Oh, alright, it connected on two.
I'll move it over for you, Guy.
Okay.
Does that look okay?
How we like it?
There you go.
Do you want the air on in here?
I'm okay, but we can turn it on.
I mean, I'm fine.
A little bit, maybe.
The lip sync is way off, though.
Oh, one, two, three, four, five.
Test, test, test.
Keep talking for me.
Test, test, test.
One, two, one, two, three, four, five.
You want me to redial?
Can you guys, can you guys, can you guys try calling us back?
Yeah, hang on.
I'm going to hang up there.
And.
Coming back in.
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10.
Yeah, that looks good.
Looks good?
Yep.
Coolio!
three four five six seven eight nine ten. Yeah that looks good.
Looks good. Yeah.
Coolio.
Thank you Mike.
Oh man oh man.
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I've been a sneezing machine today, guys.
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Everything is yellow around here.
You said Magnum PI for a second segment?
Dr. G?
Magnum PI for a second.
And you said you're gonna send me something?
Okay One minute
Thank you.
Oh, that one's even worse than the one they were showing yesterday.
Oh my gosh.
Copy that.
It's one of those shows that's on my eventual bucket list of shows I got to rewatch at some point.
Which one?
Magnum.
The original.
Magnum?
Oh.
The original, yeah, don't mess around with the new one.
I can't forget, yeah, there was a remake, yeah.
I know my dad watched it, but I think he was just, he didn't want to be a quitter.
I don't think it was good.
That was the true lie show you recommended.
Thanks for watching!
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You were smoking cigars with Chris Tagal without me.
You guys are practicing for Alaska, aren't you?
We want to be, you know, top four.
We want to be ready.
I had a cigar on the way down.
My buddy Andrew Claven gave me a Davidoff.
I can't afford those, so I smoked his Davidoff on the way down to Philly.
I had four big cigars with the listeners there.
So now I think I've got the radio voice to kill all radio voices.
But we had a great time.
I like it.
You're even more gravelly than usual today.
It's very good.
It's a little lower.
It's a little lower.
We're not playing with a graphic equalizer.
This is the genuine article.
It was so much fun.
Oh, and I listened to you guys on the way down.
I listened to the Happy Women podcast.
You guys are crushing it.
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which you can find, download Happy Women wherever you get your podcast, or the Salem Podcast
Network to subscribe. Really important. We've had some great guests, great topics,
but I just got word that we're in the top 5% of all new podcasts right now. What? So, yeah.
So apparently we've had a- But you just started. This is like episode three or something. Unless
they're just trying to make us feel good, apparently we're doing okay starting off.
So that's great news and we just want to get bigger and better from there. This is not just
for women, guys. This is interesting, inspiring stories. No, it's not. The last episode was so
great because...
I'm not going to give away all the advice I gave you guys, but if you're a podcaster, or if you want to have a podcast, there's like 99% of them fail.
Because there's thousands of them.
Thousands.
So I'm not going to tell what I told Jen and Katie, because sorry, they're my special ladies.
But if you're going to launch a podcast, Think about one thing.
Whatever the topic is, you must differentiate yourself from the literally hundreds of podcasts being launched every day.
If you don't, you're just another culture podcast, another politics podcast, another whatever it is, another hobby.
Podcast.
You've got to provide.
It's like anything in business.
It's your competitive edge.
What do you bring?
And you guys, you've got that special, what do you call it?
You're a communications major.
It's the Q factor, right?
Yeah, that it factor, the spark, the charisma between the two of us.
Katie and I love each other.
So we have really a great time just talking through these issues.
And what's really fun is that we agree, I think, on most, like probably 95% of the stuff.
But there are places where We have little differences here and there, which is really, really fun.
But I'm really enjoying talking to some of our guests.
So far, we've had Sonia Shah, who's an incredible mom who was fighting the fight for her kids and got involved in politics.
And then you turned us on to Sonia Lebosco, who I'd never met before.
She's an air marshal, and we had a great conversation with her and that'll be released tomorrow.
So really interesting stuff about you won't believe what's going on at the border, what these air marshals are being called to do, including tracking people who were just in Washington, D.C.
around January 6th, and now they're on terror watch lists.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah, it's truly, truly unbelievable.
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Alright, will you permit me to just rant for the next three minutes?
Oh, I'd love it.
Let's go.
Alright, so I really detest this human being.
I hope I get to meet him once in real life and then I will tell this man to his face what I think about him.
This is the person who colluded with the Russian, with the Chinese General Staff when he was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
He's Mark Milley and it's patently obvious now, he hates America.
Cut it.
Before we all get self-righteous about what Israel's doing, and I feel horrible for the innocent people in Gaza that are dying, we shouldn't forget that we, the United States, killed a lot of innocent people in Mosul and Raqqa.
That we, the United States, killed 12,000 innocent French civilians.
And here we are on the 80th anniversary of Normandy, on the prep fires for Normandy.
We destroyed 69 Japanese cities, not including Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
We swatted people in massive numbers, innocent people who had nothing to do with their government,
men, women and children.
So, I'm just furious.
I'm furious at this man who should have been arrested and put in the brig when he was still in uniform for telling General Li, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs in Communist China that don't worry if President Trump plans anything with China, I'll give you a heads up.
And now he's talking about How many people America slaughtered over the years?
So I'm trying to, what's the logic of saying we killed lots of German civilians or French civilians or Japanese?
So what does he say?
Is he saying that Hitler and Tojo should have won?
What is this man's strategic message, Jan?
This is what I do not understand.
It is infuriating because this is someone who was supposed to stand proudly for the American flag, who was a general, who was supposed to be working in government to protect us and to bring the morale up of the troops.
And instead, he's the worst kind of American apologist.
And I think what's appalling is that, yes, unfortunately, people die in war.
Innocent people die during war.
But he didn't talk about what sparked American, I wouldn't even want to say American interference, American participation Right.
In those things that he's talking about.
He doesn't talk about the fact that we were attacked first.
He doesn't talk about the atrocities that were going on.
I'm sorry, but no country is perfect and America has been on the side of good far more than any of our mistakes or our killing of innocent people.
It's just unbelievable that someone with his backing doesn't agree with that statement.
Well, let's show somebody who lost his legs fighting for freedom, who is now serving his nation in Congress with a little bit of a different take about civilians and warfare and killing bad guys.
This is in two parts.
I want to play both parts with a little separation.
Brian Mast being doorstepped by Code Pink in Congress.
Cut 15.
Now that Hamas has agreed to a ceasefire, do you think Israel should agree to it?
I think Israel should go in there and kick their a**.
Just absolutely destroy them, their infrastructure, level anything that they touch.
Fair enough?
Congressman, the world is calling for a ceasefire.
You used to say Hamas won't agree to a ceasefire.
Hamas had just agreed.
It was a proposal put forward by Egypt, Qatar.
You know CIA Director William Burns has been there negotiating.
You know what?
If there's an American being held, or somebody else being held, there should be every expectation that Americans come and kill them as well.
If there's an American being held, we should go kill the people that are holding them.
That's Code Pink, but it gets better.
Brian Mass, veteran.
Cut to.
Why are you so hateful?
That's not hateful.
It is, because my people are Palestinian.
You're killing my people with our tax dollars.
And you saying that everything should... Most people shouldn't associate themselves with terrorists.
They shouldn't vote terrorists into office.
We keep saying to you, the majority of our people... Israel is the terrorist.
...Palestinian, Islamic... Israel is the terrorist.
...Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda Let me say this very clearly.
I literally don't believe a word that you say.
Well, I think that you are a heartless, soulless, cruel man.
And today is Holocaust Remembrance Week.
My people, Jewish people, and I am saying as a Jew, we said never again and it's happening now.
You are so hateful and disgusting.
It's a shame.
You are a crime against humanity.
The tolerant people are saying you are a crime against humanity.
Isn't that delicious?
We've only got a few seconds left.
Yeah, it's just, it's unbelievable.
He handled it like a pro.
It's amazing to me they don't worry about the children that are being indoctrinated to have terrorist ideology.
What about saving those children?
And I'm confused.
She says, I'm a Jew and then my people of Palestine Not a lot of Jews in Palestine, my dear.
At least, not anymore.
Well, there isn't anything called Palestine.
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We'll be back with Jen in a moment.
But I did particularly like today.
Did you hear Lawrence O'Donnell saying that Stormy Daniels walked into court looking like a nun?
Yes, like a nun!
I looked at Daniel and I said, that's fake.
I guess he knew a different kind of nun when he was a kid.
I was going to say, it must have been a certain movie where he saw that.
I know when Daniel surprised me with that one today, I thought, wait a second, that can't be real.
No, it was real.
These people.
All right, I'm going to play cut nine for Jen.
Oh, and I'm going to do the Stormy Daniels pictures.
Oh, I love the court.
What did you say the court?
The court artist must be Maga.
Yeah, definitely the most flattering.
Oh, and cut 12 as well.
We'll get them all in.
I love how the judge told Trump he can't shake his head anymore.
He can't say it's, you know, it's all gonna come out.
What do you mean?
I just, I really, you know, I don't know what this jury's going to do, but I think just with every single day, this ridiculousness just wakes someone else up.
Every day.
I hope so.
I hope so, too.
Oh, can you find it on that on that note?
What do we got here?
We got B. Yeah, we did the cruise.
I didn't do the merch.
We'll do the merch here.
But come in with the the construction workers saying F Biden.
Oh, I don't have that.
What do you mean?
It's Well, that was from like last week.
I don't Yeah, I clear it out every week because it would get really, really long.
Don't do that.
I don't know if I can get it.
Let me see.
Yes, you can.
You can do it.
And you still want me to come in with the Magnum PI?
Yes!
Thank you.
Thank you.
Did you see Tom Selleck talking about Blue Bloods?
He said that he wants to keep the show going so he can keep his ranch.
Because he's got this beautiful avocado ranch up in the Ojai area, and he says the only way he can afford it is to keep working, so he wants to continue the show.
I'm sure he's very short of cash.
I know.
I'm sure he's very short of cash.
I do love Blue Bloods, though.
I know I'm an 85-year-old woman, but it's a good show.
Why?
Is it only meant to be for older women?
No, but it's just CBS.
Old people love those shows on CBS, but so do I. It's fine.
That's funny.
It's a stereotype.
All right, I need to find this thing now.
Where is it, where is it, where is it, where is it?
Oh, come on, come on, come on.
The Facebook algorithm, it's just so transparent.
I post anything mildly political, I get three likes and one comment.
I post a photograph of me smoking a cigar on the way to Philly yesterday and I get like... It's amazing what they're suppressing.
It's unbelievable.
Let's check this real quickly just to make sure it's the bleeped version.
Hang on, where did it go?
Alright, play it real quick, guy.
Now.
What's it like seeing so many Republicans in Manhattan, so many Trump supporters in Manhattan?
Does that surprise you?
No, not at all.
It's turning now.
Trump's turn again.
What's your message to Joe Biden?
F*** you.
Coming in with that.
Coming in with that.
You What's it like seeing so many Republicans in Manhattan, so
many Trump supporters in Manhattan?
Is that surprising?
No, not at all.
It's turning now.
Trump's turn again.
What's your message to Joe Biden?
F*** you!
I had to play that because what Jed said in the break about Americans waking up.
Yeah, like that guy.
That was at 5 a.m.
outside the courthouse in Manhattan a week ago.
God bless that Newsmax reporter.
And why did we play the Magnum P.I.
music as we came in there?
Because it's a bloody good show, the original one.
And because, get your violins out, on this day in 1988, the final episode Of Magnum P.I., Ed.
Jen, you're too young to have watched Magnum P.I., right?
No, I loved Magnum P.I., actually.
I used to watch it a lot when I was a kid because my dad sort of resembled Tom Selleck, so there was always kind of... Ooh, yes!
That stache!
He's got a rather manly stache.
Yeah, and now my dad says he looks like Tom Stelleck after a particularly heavy meal, but he still kind of has the vibe.
And you're a big fan of Blue Bloods as well, right?
I do love Blue Bloods and I loved Magnum P.I.
and actually got to meet Larry Minetti.
No way!
Yeah, he did a radio show at my dad's company for probably five years.
What was he like?
What was Rick like?
Very much like Rick, actually.
You know, very funny, kind of nice, but also got a little, you know, just like a little bit of that sassy kind of arrogance on the side.
And he did a great show.
He had all of these celebrity friends, so he would have them on every week.
He was friends with Robert Conrad, and he was not shy.
He would definitely talk about some ties to the outfit.
In Chicago.
And was it political at all, or was it just like his life?
Mostly entertainment.
Yeah, it was mostly his life, interviewing some of his favorite old TV stars.
I mean, we've had some incredible people come through.
He did a couple of on-air Magnum reunions, which was really fun to listen to all of them.
They all keep in touch.
And he actually even guest starred on an episode of Blue Bloods a few years back.
Wow!
Yeah, I feel really connected to that show because I not only grew up with it, you know, but knowing Larry, it was just a lot of fun.
I have to start watching Blue Bloods again because, um, who is it?
It's Donnie Wahlberg, right?
Who plays the son?
He's a fan of mine.
He DM'd me once on Twitter, so I gotta, gotta pay it back.
Wait.
Okay, hold, hold on.
I knew, I knew he was conservative.
Of course he is!
He's a Wahlberg!
And the whole show, by the way, is very conservative, which is why I love it.
The first two seasons were solid, right?
And then it got a little bit soft around the middle.
But I think, I mean, you're still watching it.
It's still solid, right?
It's still solid.
It's really good, especially when you compare it.
But you know why you have to get, oh my gosh, Seb, Donnie Wahlberg was a new kid on the block.
Are you kidding?
You're holding out on me?
Let's go.
I can't tell you everybody who DMs me.
I'm a busy guy.
I'm a busy guy.
I need a list.
Please.
All right.
On the cruise, we'll compare DMs on the cruise.
Fabulous.
Can we DM him together?
You don't get to see my DMs unless you're with me and Jen on the poop deck.
I don't know where it is, but we'll find it.
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All right.
Talking of movie stars.
Let's talk about Stormy Daniels.
Who was it Lawrence O'Donnell said today she walked into the courtroom demure like a nun.
Not any nun I've ever known and I went to a convent for my first year of pre-k so I know nuns.
I went to Catholic school for 12 years.
I've been taught by many nuns, and Stormy Daniels is not a nun.
Well, let's put this photograph up.
This is the court-appointed artist.
I had to be on Newsmax at 8 a.m.
this morning, and when I saw that, they showed it to me.
I said, what is this?
The Walking Dead?
That's not Stormy Daniels.
I mean, she has been ridden hard and put away wet.
That does not look very healthy, does it?
It looks like skeletal.
It's definitely Skeletor with a lot of hair.
Like, she's been locked away in the crypt for, you know, about 10 years.
And it's funny because, look, say what you will about Stormy Daniels, she's not an ugly woman.
I mean, she's fine.
But this picture is not a great representation of anything.
Well, my comment was, you saw, I posted this immediately, I said, I think the court-appointed artist is a MAGA voter.
What do you think?
I know, and it was weird because in the same picture, Donald Trump looked like He-Man.
It was very, very bizarre.
No, this is definitely a MAGA court artist for sure.
Oof.
Alright, so we have to ask you the question.
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I have to ask you the question that You just informed the whole of yesterday's evening with Chris de Gaulle in Philly with his amazing listeners at the Cigar Republic Lounge.
It was rather wonderful.
The Scipioni brothers, five Italian brothers in business together.
That's quite something.
The question that kind of informed the whole evening Are they going to put him in jail?
And not on the end of the whatever verdict in this loony case, but on the contempt of court gag order.
What do you think, Jen?
Gosh, you know, I've been going back and forth about this too, and I think the judge has got a real conundrum in front of him because he is a political actor.
It was revealed this week that Adam Schiff paid his daughter $4 million for her digital marketing company to spread the Russia collusion hoax.
So he is obviously a political actor, right?
We know this about him.
But we also know that he realizes now that with every day, President Trump just gets more popular.
And he's getting popular with groups that would normally vote for Democrats.
And I think he is acutely aware of that.
And he even said, I don't want to throw you in jail.
I'm going to have to.
I may have to.
I understand the weight of this.
You could be the future president.
I think, had people not been paying attention, had Trump's popularity not been growing, there's no doubt in my mind that the judge would have loved to put Trump in jail.
But I think he knows what that means.
It means that you seal Donald Trump's victory at the White House if you put him to jail.
And I think President Trump knows that, too.
But hang on, stop.
You're being logical.
I know.
Right?
And are these people logical?
Well, I think that this guy is probably not dumb.
I think that he knows that if he throws him in jail, this is going to probably boost him.
They call him Teflon Don for a reason, right?
And so I think he's got to be thinking about that.
But at the same time, you know he's probably feeling that urge to just feel the satisfaction of throwing him into jail.
I don't know.
I think it would be a surprise if he did it to me.
But you're right.
I'm looking at this as a rational human.
And he's trapped.
He's told him you can't say anything.
And guess what?
My old boss, he's not going to rein himself in.
So what are you going to do?
Either, what, you keep finding him and then you don't throw him in the slammer, and then you look weak, or do you keep your promise?
These people are insane.
I think they're going to try it.
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And it's a disgrace.
And then you have the other thing that maybe is even more disgraceful is the gag order.
Where I can't basically, I have to watch every word I tell you people.
You ask me a question, a simple question, I'd like to give it, but I can't talk about it.
Because this judge has given me a gag order and said you'll go to jail if you violate it.
And frankly, you know what?
Our Constitution is much more important than jail.
It's not even close.
I'll do that sacrifice any day.
But what's happening here is a disgrace to the appellate court so to get involved.
I just can't stop thinking about that clip.
37 seconds long.
President Trump, after having his Second Amendment, his First Amendment rights denuded of him, or a judge trying to do so, and he says, they want to throw me in jail?
I'm prepared to make that sacrifice because that's more important.
Because we've got to protect the Constitution.
The Constitution is the most important thing and I'm prepared to go to jail.
Absolutely stunning.
Absolutely stunning.
No better person to check in with than the man you might have seen standing right behind him!
He's our friend!
He's the Baron!
Boris Epstein, welcome back to America First.
Thank you so much.
It's an honor to be here.
Honor to be with you, as always.
Now, I don't want to get you, my friend, in trouble with the judge.
You've got work to do for the president as his senior advisor, as his attorney.
But let me just play this clip.
It's devastating.
Devastating.
This is the star, outside of Stormy Daniels, the star witness for the prosecution is a man who's going to get, Well, just listen to what Michael Cohen has to say about President Trump.
Cut one.
But one thing Donald Trump is, he's a compassionate man.
He's a man of great intellect, great intuition, and great abilities.
Mr. Trump's memory is fantastic, and I've never come across a situation where Mr. Trump has said something that's not accurate.
Mr. Trump truly cares about America.
He loves this country.
He's an amazing negotiator.
Maybe the best ever in the history of this world.
The words the media should be using to describe Mr. Trump are generous, Compassionate, principled, empathetic, kind, humble, honest, and genuine.
He's not lying.
He was protecting a friend.
There's a difference.
What is the difference?
The difference is he was being a true friend.
It didn't matter to him.
He will ultimately, and I've said this so many times, he will ultimately go down in history as the greatest president.
Now, I'm a national security guy.
You know that, Boris.
We worked together in the White House.
You're an attorney.
I don't expect national security advice from you, and I'd never give you legal advice, okay?
But I'm just modestly saying that you may just want to play that clip in the courtroom, and I'm going to move on straight, because I think it's going to be quite powerful.
Now, as I said, I don't want to get you in trouble, so I'm going to ask you one personal question in our segment today.
What's it like to do a job that no attorney wants to do because they're not brave enough and not courageous enough?
What's it like to work for the man that the establishment detests the most?
How do you get up in the morning?
The role that I'm honored to have is the best thing that I've ever done professionally.
And I'll tell you, actually, we have a huge amount of attorneys from all over the country
are reaching out who want to help.
We've got what I will tell you is the best legal team ever put together in the history
of this country.
We've got top notch lawyers on every one of these cases.
And just look at the win after win after win.
Yesterday, Judge Cannon in Florida stating that right now it would be imprudent to.
Let's put that image up.
We've got the letter from Georgia.
the trial date off the calendar just this morning in Georgia, the Court of Appeals accepting
the motion for an interlocutory appeal to President Trump.
Let's put that image up.
We've got the letter from Georgia.
Carry on, Boris.
President Trump now, that's a big development.
That was a filing, a motion done by President Trump and the other American patriots who were part of that case in Georgia.
So now the court of appeals is saying that they are going to hear an appeal from that motion to dismiss that crazy, corrupt case in Georgia and to disqualify Fannie Willis based on all her myriad wrongdoings.
President Trump's team is firing on all cylinders.
And they're doing what has to be done to beat back these Biden witch hunts.
That's exactly what they are.
These are Biden trials.
These are Biden witch hunts.
And President Trump is defeating him at every turn.
We've only got a minute left.
Boris, what's it like afterwards to travel through Manhattan and when the president stops at the bodega or the fire station?
What's that like for you?
The support is unbelievable and it is so exciting and I'm so enthusiastic to have a chance to be there to witness how much the people of New York love President Trump, no matter how rigged the system is, no matter how corrupt the DA or the Attorney General are, so politicized.
The people of New York, just like the people of America, love President Trump and they cannot wait to bring him back to the White House, January 20, 2025.
All right.
We have to tread lightly because we want Boris there by his side.
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Line one.
Yeah, who's this?
Hello, who's this?
Yes.
Yeah, I wanted to call about Trump's trial.
Go ahead.
I just, I'm in shock at what they're doing to him.
That they're putting him through this trial just to drag him through the mud when there's no crime whatsoever.
Correct.
I mean, how is that allowed?
And then this gag order.
They don't even allow him to speak or anything?
That's insane!
What the hell's going on?
Well, I think you know what it's going on.
The Democrats are trying to steal the election before anybody votes.
I guess so, but... I mean, there's no crime there.
This is just like... They're just hanging his dirty laundry out for everyone to see.
But there's no crime.
Well, you said that already.
That's pretty much what I wanted to say.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Thank you. Oh, really?
How do you bloody remember that stuff?
Cur!
What?
I'm sorry.
You You
You you
you Young black kids growing up in the Bronx who don't even
know what the word computer is They don't know.
They don't know these things.
And I want the world open up to all of them because when you have their diverse voices, innovating solutions through technology, then you're really addressing society's broader challenges.
Jeff, can you believe that Sarah Huckabee Saunders is such a racist?
She said it would be great.
She should just come out and say that.
Every conservative should say that tonight, just to see the reaction.
Sorry, I had to have fun for those of you who are listening and not watching.
Of course, that wasn't the great Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
That's a real clip, right, Jeff?
Yes.
Okay, that's the governor of New York.
That's Hochul, who actually just... Play it again, Eric!
It's just too good.
Young black kids growing up in the Bronx who don't even know what the word computer is.
They don't know.
They don't know these things.
And I want the world to open up to all of them, because when you have their diverse voices innovating solutions through technology, then you're really addressing society's broader challenges.
I mean, the black kids in the Bronx, Jeff, do they know what a fork is?
No, they don't even know what the word is.
They don't even know what the word is.
Have they been introduced to the concept of toilet paper?
I don't think so.
I don't think they know what any word means.
And if you're a Democrat, you can say stuff like that, right?
Yeah, I mean, not too many people know what a computer is nowadays.
They are such stinking racists.
That's the Democrat Party, guys.
The kids, the black kids of the Bronx don't know What a computer is.
The word computer.
It is the party of the KKK.
It's the party of lynchings.
That's who they are.
You stupid black child.
You don't even know what a knife is.
Or a spoon.
You're just black and dumb.
That's Kathy Hochul.
That's who they are.
Dear oh dear.
Okay.
I want to do a poll here because I can't get past this.
Discussion last night.
Oh, first, let's start with this.
Somebody asked me who the Veep pick is going to be.
I said I can't disclose, at least the one I've been told.
But Christy Gall said Sarah Huckabee Saunders.
And I thought, that's a great idea.
What do you think, Eric?
Sarah Huckabee Saunders.
If it has to be a woman VP, she would definitely be up there for me, along with Senator Marsha Blackburn.
One of those two.
If the VP has to be a woman.
Ooh, that's interesting.
Jeff, do you care who the Veep is?
No, but I think Sarah would be good.
Yeah, because she's no rhino.
No, because the only role really is to defend Trump.
And she was the best at that.
She was excellent.
Excellent.
All right, let's let's go to the question.
I want to ask all you guys.
I think they're going to try and put him in jail, at least on a contempt of court charge.
What do you think, John?
Yeah, your name?
I mean, I honestly I could go 50 50.
But it does seem like It's hard.
It's hard to call, right?
Yeah.
I mean, I can't even imagine them sending Trump to jail over contempt of court.
It's just so ridiculous to even think.
But they're not.
But they are not.
So it doesn't surprise me that they would do it.
Eric?
The same with the mugshot.
Any sane person will look at this and think, this will obviously help him.
But like you said, their ego has been said.
They want their name to live in infamy.
Judge Merchant wants to be the one who said, I put Donald Trump in jail.
So yeah, I think after enough warnings, you know, wagging his finger at Trump, I think he will eventually do it.
Right.
We've got a 50-50.
We've got a yes.
Guy, do they put him in jail and contempt of court or not?
What do you think?
Yes, sir.
President Trump's trial reminds me a lot of the political prosecutions, you know, to the president that happened, always happened, you know, in Taiwan and for a lot of cases.
So, this is in Taiwan, this is America, yes or no?
Taiwan got, they had a high percentage you know to get prosecuted after they
they took over their powers so this pretty much the case and I'm kind of
surprised you know this type of situation could happen you know in this
country. So this is in Taiwan this is America yes or no are they gonna do it?
I think so.
Wow, we got a yes from Guy.
Alright, let's go to the most cynical man on the planet outside of me.
No, he's actually more cynical.
Eric, isn't he more cynical than I am?
Oh, 100%.
I mean, he doesn't like Cypher.
Is anybody more cynical than Mr. G?
Not that I can name off the top of my head.
Alright, so this is going to be the deciding vote.
Mr. G, yay, nay.
Not on the verdict in the trial, which is all garbage bogus anyway, but on the contempt of court thing.
Because the President's got to keep talking and he's got to keep posting on Truth Social, so what happens then?
I think it's probably not.
Because this whole thing is to help them in the election.
However, if it did happen, what they want more than anything else is some January 6th-like event.
If they may be taking a shot to bait that.
That's how I could see them doing it.
They want, you know, MAGA hat, roadblocks on the way to Rikers, right?
What's the guy's name?
In Arizona, get him out of retirement, bring him back.
The guy?
The QAnon guy?
No, Ray Epps.
Get Ray Epps back and a few others in the crowd to shake things up.
Give him a bullhorn!
Get Ray Epps out there.
Wow.
See?
I knew he was cynical.
He's got the whole thing mapped out.
Let's go to a call.
Let's go to Cleveland.
Derek, line 2.
Thank you, Dr. G. Gotta watch out.
I think we might hear... They're gonna edit your...
Edit your clips of you channeling Kathy Hochul there.
Well, of course I am, but I don't give a damn.
I've got to this point in life where I don't give a crap.
I'm sorry.
Bring it!
I don't give a crap.
Media matters.
Do it!
Do it!
It's like President Trump.
I'm sorry, the Constitution is more important.
Sorry.
Yep, testicular fortitude.
So this is an amusing story, Dr. G. Did you cover Case Western Reserve University here in Cleveland about So the university, to their credit, they hired some painting contractors to spray paint over a wall that was graffitied.
I guess it was a student spirit wall.
And so, you know, cover over the wall with spray paint.
And some of the students were trying to block the mess, you know, block them from doing it, some human line.
And the contractors just spray painted over them.
Yeah, I mean, just got what they asked for, pretty much.
I didn't know that.
Stay on the line.
Give the details to Mr. G, because I want to find out what happened at Case Western.
I did not see that story.
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and they're supposed to...
So the president hired someone to spray-paint it spray paint it over what they wrote.
Yeah.
But they're standing in front of the graffiti, so the guy just starts painting, like... Oh, they paint the kids!
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's great!
Send that to me.
That's hilarious.
For what it's worth, and the Rumble Chat's talking about this, mainstream media reports, you know, the Wikipedia page and whatnot, are claiming the official shortlist is down to four.
J.D.
Vance, Marco Rubio, Tim Scott, and Doug Burgum.
Marco Rubio?
Burgum?
They're smoking crack.
There's no official list with Burgum.
You wouldn't want to get J.D.
Vance out of the Senate.
I know.
He is the best ideologically of those four, but... He's so stupid.
Yeah, that's such a... There's no such list.
I know, President Trump.
I guarantee you now, Doug Burgum, if the world exploded and there was nobody else left, Doug Burgum would not be on the list for Vice President.
I don't know where he came up from.
The only thing I can think of is that he's rich.
He is a billionaire.
What did he make his money out of?
What was it?
I think it was a software company.
Yeah.
What was it?
Software?
Yeah, software.
Let me double check.
He sold it to Microsoft, I think.
I did almost every cut.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Oh, we don't have the b-roll of the protests being cleared out?
The Charlie Kirk one?
Yeah.
Oh, we have that?
We do.
Show me that.
We have the George Washington one too.
Oh, show me them both.
Playback 2 go.
Here's the Kirk.
Oh my goodness.
And then...
It's a little sped up.
And then, here's the GWU.
Alright, I'll talk through those.
I just sent you those, think of them.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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I'm so bad.
I'm two hours in and I even haven't said thank you to Mark Davis.
You know, Jeff, I listened to Mark as much as I could on the way down as I was driving to Philly.
He's really good.
No, he did a great job.
And there was this one kind of mini-mono he did before he got a guest on.
And he talked about how, why don't the rhinos just admit that Trump broke them?
Stop saying all this stuff about how, oh, history has moved beyond Donald Trump.
Just fess up, and that he broke you.
And I love that.
He gets it.
He gets the Never Trumpers.
Is Jeff there?
I didn't know you were still talking.
I am!
I know you're busy and I know you're texting your buddies and, you know, you're having a little nap in the back there.
I'm trying to be nice about Mark Davis and I want backup from my executive producer.
Well, you know me.
I'm not going to have a problem with anyone that doesn't like the Rhinos.
They're never Trumpers.
All right.
Help me out here, Jeff, because it's hard to do radio with B-roll that doesn't have any sound, but it's important stuff.
What is this first thing related to Charlie Kirk?
Start playing it in the background and tell us what's happening here, Jeff.
This is an event that he was at at the University of Washington, and this was Antifa attacking one of the journalists, as you can see, and that's a big-time fight, too.
Yeah, that's a real one.
When they get pushed and they act like they were assaulted like the left does all the time.
And this is recently?
Yeah, this was I think yesterday or the day before.
And there he is just doing a dead sprint running away, too.
That's the reporter.
Can we get Charlie on the show to talk about that just for a segment?
We definitely should.
I'll try for that tomorrow.
Okay, good.
Let's do that.
And then the second one, this is one I requested that Eric dig up.
This was 4 a.m.
this morning at GW, George Washington University, the most expensive college in America.
And they just had enough.
The MPD rolled in.
This weird thing, they use their bicycles, the cops use their bicycles as kind of sideways battering rams and then they spray them with these massive 16-ounce canisters of pepper spray to clean it all up.
But Jeff, you had a story.
Why suddenly Muriel Bowser?
Why do they suddenly care about GW and cleaning out all the scumbag pro-jihadis?
That's because she was supposed to testify today in front of Congress.
So it's not about getting rid of the pro-jihadis?
So there we go.
The House Republicans finally did one thing.
They broke up one little protest.
I knew it couldn't be that good, of course.
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Music.
I'm gonna go call the wire.
Can you testify?
The gang owner, Mr. Net, first question.
As you know, they've taken away my constitutional rights, so I'm not allowed to answer that question.
This has never happened in this country before. It's a ridiculous thing.
It's a ridiculous case. I did nothing wrong. Absolutely nothing wrong.
Take a look at Greg Jarrett this morning. He went on.
Take a look at Andrew McCarthy or Jonathan Jorley or Mark Levin.
It's like they say there's no case here.
And yet the judges gagged me, and I'm not allowed to talk about, I guess, his total conflict.
The judge is totally conflicted and you ought to take a look at it.
And I'm not supposed to be talking about it.
But I am allowed to say that the judge has a conflict that, like, nobody's ever had before.
You ought to take a look at it.
He's taken away my constitutional right to speak.
I was in Miami this weekend, and reporters are asking me questions, the same questions like you're asking me, and I have to say I have a gang order.
I can't speak about it.
Never happened before, ever.
Number one.
Number two, it's a fake trial.
They have no case and it's been absolutely proven now.
They have no case whatsoever.
This is Alvin Bragg doing it for political reasons for Biden.
This is a Biden trial.
He's a crooked president.
This is a Biden trial.
President Trump being goaded by the press outside the courtroom in Manhattan because they know he's just been fined again, the gag order, and the judge, Judge Murchan, stating what?
I don't want to put you in prison, but I will.
We know what they're really up to.
Of course, he's a Biden donor.
His daughter is making millions off this trial.
Will they put him in jail even before there's any kind of verdict?
Let's talk to a woman who is Probably providing America and the world the best coverage on what is happening inside the courtrooms of this political persecution against the leader of the opposition, especially when it comes to the fascinating Documents Mar-a-Lago raid case.
She's the author of the book January 6, How Democrats Use the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right, the one and only Julie Kelly.
Hello, Saab.
Thanks for having me on.
Well, we are delighted that you could squeeze us in between your many, many interviews with Dan Bongino and Larry O'Connor and so many others.
You are a person in demand because it's stunning.
We're looking at The lists of journalists, of good journalists, which is a small list to begin with.
And then we're looking at who's actually covering these court cases.
And I don't mean, you know, how bad is the courtroom artist's drawing of Stormy Daniels.
I mean actual coverage.
And it's shocking.
Do you feel like you're the lone warrior tilting at windows like Don Quixote?
What's it like to be Julie Kelly?
Let's start with an important question.
Oh, Seb, you don't want to know.
I do, that's why I'm asking.
My listeners, my millions of listeners want to know.
Who is Julie Kelly?
Who is she?
Why is she doing this?
I often ask myself that.
Well, Seb, I'll tell you what.
I mean, I've covered this case, as you know, since August of 2022, when Judge Aileen Cannon was assigned the lawsuit that Donald Trump filed seeking a special master to vet all of the evidence that had been taken out of Mar-a-Lago.
And she took the extraordinary step back then of appointing a retired judge to go through especially privileged communications.
And she basically, she said back then, basically, I don't trust the Department of Justice to handle this.
You've already mishandled it.
You've already leaked information to the media.
So no, I don't trust you.
And this is how she originally got in the crosshairs of, you know, the Andrew Weissmans of the world.
And she stayed there ever since.
So I've covered this case really since then.
I'm also in Southern Florida for the winter, so I'm able to go to the courthouse and you really have to go there to cover it.
There's no audio or video.
You can't even take your phone in there, so it's like old school.
You sit there and write everything out.
But I'm the only reporter on our side.
I mean, ABC News has their reporter there, the New York Times, Politico, all the big major corporate news outlets have reporters there.
Covering this but no one really on our side.
So that's sort of how I got into this and I will say said if somebody wanted to pick it up from here.
It would be very difficult to catch up with everything that's happened over the past almost two years in this case.
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Let's talk about Judge Cannon and the atmosphere inside the courtroom.
I've only been to court once, all right, for a speeding ticket.
And I arrived three hours early because, you know, I'm an immigrant to America.
I'm a legal immigrant.
And I wanted to see what, you know, is it really like Quincy?
Is it really like, you know, Bannercheck?
Is it really like those TV shows?
So I sat at the back of the court for a couple of hours watching, and it was fascinating.
And even at that local kind of traffic court level, Judges, they're like little gods.
I mean, the power they have as individuals who are, you know, put there for life, ostensibly.
And then when you get to the federal level, it's even more so.
But reading the transcripts, and you need to read what she posts, The Biden DOJ doesn't have the requisite minimal level of respect for Judge Cannon, do they?
They don't.
And I'll tell you what, Sab, it's sort of amazing to watch not just how they treat her in these court hearings, but the tone in their motions.
Now, I will say, She gives it back as good as she gets.
The tone of her orders are clearly retaliatory towards how she is treated by this team, Special Counsel Jack Smith and his lead investigator, Jay Bratt.
There is no love lost between Aileen Cannon and Jay Bratt.
In fact, during a hearing last month, I was in the courthouse covering it, Jay Bratt was addressing her.
He was about to say something.
She interrupted him and said, She asked him a question and said, try not to say something sarcastic.
I mean, I've covered a lot of court hearings the last few years, as you know, related to January 6th, of course, in Washington.
I don't recall a judge having to tell a prosecutor to watch his tone with how they respond, he or she responds.
So this is just one indication of the bad blood between them.
And I actually had a defense attorney When one of these motions was filed several weeks ago, and he said, I've never seen anything like this.
I've never seen the government treat and be so dismissive and disrespectful to a sitting federal judge.
Well, but Seb, here's the problem.
To your point, guess who gets the final word for the most part?
The judge.
The judge.
And that is why we'll talk about her order yesterday, which is very important in terms of where this case goes.
But it's not a very bright strategy for the special counsel's team to treat Judge Cannon so disrespectfully.
We'll talk about that.
That was going to be my next question.
I think somebody's given her a copy of my show notes.
She's cheating.
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And it's a disgrace.
And then you have the other thing that maybe is even more disgraceful is the gag order.
Where I can't basically, I have to watch every word I tell you people.
You ask me a question, a simple question, I'd like to give it, but I can't talk about it.
Because there's a judge who's given me a gag order and said you'll go to jail if you violate it.
And frankly, you know what?
Our Constitution is much more important than jail.
It's not even close.
I'll do that sacrifice any day.
But what's happening here is a disgrace to the appellate court so it can get involved.
I'll do that sacrifice any day.
The American Constitution is much more important than me going to jail.
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We're talking to Julie Kelly, the author of the book January 6, How Democrats Use the Cattle Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right.
Julie, let's go back to the one case that seems to involve A real judge who isn't a political hack and a prostitute for the Democrat party in the White House.
Judge Eileen Cannon out of Florida, where you've been sitting in the courtroom.
What happened yesterday?
What is this in abeyance decision?
What practically?
Can you explain what happened with regards to the Mar-a-Lago documents case?
So, after revelations from Jack Smith himself, but this originated from the defense attorneys, that evidence has been tampered with.
As I reported, Seb, and it's on my sub stack, you know the photograph of Mar-a-Lago with the files scattered on the floor, with the scary looking cover sheets, there they are right there.
The red ones, the yellow ones, it's a blaring, you know, top secret classified.
Well, we were all led to believe that that is the condition in which the FBI agents found those files inside Mar-a-Lago.
Right.
Just, you know, on the floor with the markings, top secret, because I worked in the White House and that's what I did with my classified documents.
I just kept them, you know, I lined the birdcage with them at home.
That's how they found them.
Right, Julie?
Right.
So that is what they made it seem like, because there was a box right next to it.
So what the FBI, when they took that photograph, made it appear to the American people and to Judge Cannon at the time, is that that is how the files were found.
Well, what we now know is that the FBI brought those cover sheets to the raid at Mar-a-Lago.
The ruse was to use them as placeholders inside boxes.
If they found what they said was a classified document, they took it out, they put a placeholder cover sheet Among the other papers to indicate to investigators later, this is where that particular record was found.
Well, they also use them as a stunt.
They put cover sheets on unidentified files.
We don't even know if they match up with the classified markings that were allegedly on those records.
And they paper clip them very uniformly.
You take another look at that photo, you could see.
And then they took a picture to make it seem like that's how the records were found.
That is not how they were found.
That is what the FBI did.
Hold on.
Stay on that photograph for a second, Eric.
So that's one of the photographs from inside Mar-a-Lago.
Let me give you some inside dope here.
I still have my top secret SCI clearance, as I had in the White House.
And on my desk in my office, I had a stack of those.
Those covers are just pieces of card that in and of themselves are not classified.
They're just a cover.
You just put them on top of the classified document.
In and of themselves, they're nothing.
You could wallpaper your house with them if you wanted to.
And the important point here is, Julie, that they brought them with themselves to the raid to use as a prop.
That's what we're talking about, correct?
That is exactly what we're talking about.
Now, when Jay Brett and the DOJ first showed that photo, they used it as an exhibit in the special master lawsuit.
So it was an attachment, an exhibit.
And what Jay Brett said at the time, very crafty, clever, one might say corrupt, said to describe that photo, certain of documents had classified cover sheets on them.
Well, of course, he said it that way in a passive voice.
To again, make it sound like the documents were discovered that way.
Well, they weren't.
Because what Jack Smith said last week in his filing, get this, not only did they bring the cover sheets and they used them as that stunt, they also used them as placeholders.
But what Jack Smith just told Judge Cannon is that they lost track of some of the classified documents that they took out of the box, used that cover sheet as a placeholder.
They can't match up in some instances, that cover sheet, With the classified document that they allegedly took out of the box.
So let's translate that into, you know, let's go.
What is it?
Let's go back to, you know, what is it?
You know, CSI and NYPD blue and all that stuff.
What we're saying here is the special prosecutor, his team, the FBI officers agents on the raid, they didn't respect And follow rule number one of prosecuting a crime, which is chain of custody.
And we've all seen those courtroom dramas.
If you don't have secure chain of custody, the evidence is inadmissible.
It sounds a little bit like the Keystone Cops, Julie.
Well, it does, and it probably is the Keystone Cops, because what happened the day after the raid is the FBI loaded up 34 boxes that they took out of Mar-a-Lago.
They flew out of Miami and they went to Washington, D.C., where they stored these boxes in two facilities at the hopelessly corrupt Washington FBI field office that, as you know, has been targeting Donald Trump and his allies, his family members, and now his supporters, related to January 6th, for almost a decade.
So they should have kept the files in Southern Florida.
That was the proper jurisdiction.
That's where the alleged crime took place.
But they took them to Washington FBI field office so they could get it in the hands of the dirty cops there.
They could get the dirty judges in Washington, D.C.
federal courthouse to give them whatever they wanted, any subpoena they wanted, all the grand jury abuse that's now being reported out of D.C.
So that's why they were there.
So now they come back and say, oh, Well, yeah, those cover sheets, you know, they were used kind of as props.
Yes, and now we lost track of a few of the documents that we used those cover sheets for as placement holders.
Oh, yeah, and by the way, the papers aren't exactly in the same order that the FBI said that they were originally, so this placeholder could be hundreds of pages beyond what the FBI originally inventoried.
Oh, and by the way, too, the boxes are not in their original format, their original condition.
And this is what another problem for Jay Bratt.
At the court hearing last month, again, I was there.
I have the transcript.
Judge Cannon specifically asked Jay Bratt, are the boxes in their original intact condition as they were after the raid?
Jay Bratt said, yes, with the exception, the classified document has been replaced with a placeholder.
No, that's not it.
Defense attorneys have looked at those boxes. They looked at pictures they were taken after the raid,
said they don't match up. And Jack Smith said, oh yeah, you know, after we got them,
we weren't really being careful about keeping things in order. And oh yeah, some of the
contents in the boxes shifted because they're smaller objects. And oh, but no big deal.
No, no, no biggie.
No biggie.
We just want to put a man in prison and we've charged him with national security crimes.
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Julie, just before we started today, you posted something or rather I found something on your timeline that I reposted.
Could you tell us who David Homel is?
H-O-M-O-L.
Here are some photographs of him and why you posted about him on Twitter.
You know, Seb, this appears to be at least the fifth suicide of a January 6th defendant.
Mr. Homel was arrested in Florida in January, this past January, because the DOJ continues to investigate, raid, arrest, prosecute, An attempt to incarcerate J6ers almost on a daily basis now.
So he was charged with civil disorder, I believe assault or interfering with police officer, a few other misdemeanors.
And apparently on August 17, excuse me, April 17th, according to a police report, he shot himself in the head on April 17th.
Yet another American who would rather take their own life and continue to endure the torture and torment inflicted by this Department of Justice, FBI, and particularly D.C.
U.S.
Attorney Matthew Graves.
I've called these people, for example, the nephew of Jerry Perna, who's been on the show numerous times, the young man who was facing a misdemeanor charge and then had it turboed up to a terrorist indictment, who was gonna face up to 10 years in prison, likewise hanged himself.
I call these people, like Matt, like Mr. Homewell, I call these people the martyrs of January 6th.
No one died on that day except MAGA supporters, and since then half a dozen have committed suicide instead of facing Biden's political police force.
Would you concur that the blood of these men is on the hands of the Biden administration and these people are martyrs?
100%.
The blood on the hands of Attorney General Merrick Garland, Deputy Attorney Lisa Monaco, particularly, as I said, DC U.S.
Attorney Matthew Graves, the judges who allow this to continue.
In fact, Jerry Perna is just texting me right now.
You know, it's just like ripping her heart open all over again because she knows what Mr. Homo's family is going through, his wife.
You know, this is a man who went to a protest.
And there's just no comparison, Seb, to this Department of Justice anywhere treating Americans this way and turning political, this three, four hour political protest into an act, alleged act of, of domestic terrorist and destroying lives.
And you know, what upsets me the most set aside from these stories is then I hear from J sixers who say, I understand how he felt.
I understand how Matthew Pernap felt.
I mean, there was a 21 year old man on Utah.
Who shot himself too.
His father found him.
He shot himself because he also had been charged.
He was 18 or 19 years old when he went to Congress, an 18-year-old, and then commits suicide, age 21, as he has the sword of Damocles from Biden's DOJ hanging above his head.
Oh, and by the way, it's not just, you know, what they're doing to these people, but this is the same Matthew Graves, who as the Washington DA, or the Washington U.S.
Attorney, has refused to prosecute 60% of the felonies in DC, meaning the carjackings, the muggings, because, I don't know, because black people or something, or poor people, or they're Democrat voters, therefore.
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She tells the truth about what's happening in these courtrooms.
Julie, I have to ask you, you're not Nostradamus, you're not, you know, one of these fortune tellers.
But you know better than anyone, because you're in these courtrooms, and you're seeing what's happening to the man, to use the British term, who is the leader of the opposition, who is the nominee for his party's presidential candidacy, and who, by the way, was a president.
We talked yesterday with my colleague Chris de Gaulle at this listener event in Philly, that for him, and for me, the Rubicon was the Mar-a-Lago raid.
Right?
That's when you realize, okay, this is out of control.
Armed agents of the FBI ordering President Trump's attorneys to stand outside on the lawn as they go into his home, unsupervised.
That's when we became a banana republic.
So I'm going to ask you, you may not be Nostradamus, but are they going to put him behind bars?
Well, I mean, I think that that likelihood is diminishing rapidly.
We see with obviously what's happening in Washington, D.C., the January 6th case now indefinitely postponed as we await the Supreme Court's opinion on presidential immunity.
That will continue to delay the proceedings there.
So what looked like a layup conviction in Washington, D.C., now looks like the trial won't even get underway before Election Day.
And that's a huge blow.
To the Democrats and the Biden regime and Jack Smith.
The classified documents case now and obviously now we have the news out of Fulton County today that the Court of Appeals will take up Donald Trump's appeal of the disqualification of Fannie Willis So that's encouraging news there.
That case has sort of disappeared from the headlines anyway.
Let's just unpack that for a second.
So this isn't the case against him concerning the election.
This is the fact that the judge there, Judge McAfee, in this ridiculous decision said, oh, you can still keep persecuting Donald Trump as long as you stop having sex with Nathan Wade and you fire him.
Either you resign or you fire him.
As if, you know, I'd love to see if, you know, Judge McAfee is sitting In Fannie Willis' bedroom, making sure that she's not having hanky-panky with her chief prosecutor.
I'm just curious how that is enforced, whether there's like a webcam in the corner of the bedroom.
But that decision to allow her to continue to persecute President Trump is now going to appeal, which puts everything on ice, correct?
Correct.
It will.
And so we'll see what happens now.
Obviously, when an appellate panel or court takes up an appeal, And the next step generally is Donald Trump or the defendant will ask for a stay on the proceedings or a stay to Judge McAfee's order as the appellate process moves on.
So that is going to continue to delay that case, which is kind of just disappeared from the headlines and disintegrated on its own weight.
But what about Judge Merchant?
I mean, this guy is constantly saying you're in breach of your gang order and I can put you in jail.
What does your gut tell you about that?
What's the feeling in your bones?
I mean, look, it just takes one jury, right?
One juror.
Well, I believe, yeah, it takes one juror.
For a hung trial.
But I'm thinking about the contempt of court charge.
President Trump is not going to shut up.
Is this Biden donor going to put President Trump in, you know, central booking for three days and, you know, put him behind bars because he dared to do a truth social post about the case?
What do you think?
I think he very well could.
I mean, Judge Murchon is so compromised and so untethered from his responsibilities and duty as a judge.
My sense is he would love to be in the history books forever.
As the judge responsible for finally putting Donald Trump behind bars, even if it's for 48 hours, his name will live in infamy.
This will help bolster his daughter's already very lucrative consulting business, where she is working with top Democrats like Adam Schiff and Kamala Harris over the past few years.
So why wouldn't he?
He's not going to pay a price for it, right?
I mean, there's no accountability for these judges.
That's really the terrifying part.
of this lawfare that we're seeing, not just against Donald Trump, but all of the January 6th defendants and then people like Jeffrey Clark and Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon and everyone else who have been targeted by this, by this DOJ and allowed this to happen by these judges.
So, wouldn't surprise me one bit if he finds a way.
I know today he admonished Trump's lawyers to tell, tell a grown man, former president, leading presidential candidate, that he can't swear.
his courtroom under his breath. So you can have prosecutors asking this piece
of trash Stormy Daniels about this alleged sexual encounter and details
about that, that's okay. But Donald Trump isn't allowed under his breath to
express his anger about that. Well, next Julie, it's gonna be you're not allowed to think rude things, Mr. Trump.
Big brother, big brother.
Big Brother knows when you're thinking naughty words in your head.
It sounds absurd.
It sounds like a joke.
This is where we are today.
It's about policing thought, and in fact, it's about stealing elections.
They want to steal an election before anybody actually votes.
That's what all of this is about.
Fannie Willis, Jack Smith, Chotkan, and Judge Merchant.
Stealing it in advance.
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Julie, last few moments.
We could do this for hours because we only touched upon the cases President Trump is being persecuted through.
And then the suicides of two January sixes, Mr. Homel and Matt Perner.
Can you, in just the last two minutes we have here, because you know this better than anyone, the human toll, the families and what they've gone through in the last three and a half years.
Well, I do want to clarify, this is the fifth, at least the fifth known suicide of a January six defendant.
So, I mean, the toll is, it's incomparable.
I mean, as I said, there's nothing like this.
These people, you know, I just hear heartbreaking stories.
People whose parents have cut them off.
People who have been turned in by their own children.
People, you know, there's one story of a man charged with four misdemeanors.
His church told him to stop coming to church because he was too much of a distraction.
Divorces, bankruptcies, people having all of their financial support being cancelled, banks cancelling them.
You even had things like DoorDash and Airbnb cancelling the accounts of individuals who were charged with misdemeanors.
I mean, there's nothing comparable to the orchestrated, attempted destruction of these people.
Not just by the government, by the media.
I mean, I'm told by J6ers often that as bad as the DOJ's treatment is, what's even worse is how the national and local media have treated them.
And Seb, that is why there has to be consequences when Donald Trump wins the White House.
People have to pay for what they have done to these innocent Americans who simply protested a rigged, stolen election.
Yes, in some situations didn't get out of control.
Yes, for their people who acted badly.
Yes, most of them have admitted that.
But There has to be some parity here, and there just simply is not.
These people have been denuded of their civil rights, kept in solitary for years on end.
It's just wrong, and people have to pay the price, and they have to pay a judicial penalty.
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