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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Gen. Flynn on what the Deep State did to him
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Welcome, dear friends.
I hope you had a fabulous weekend.
We have a very, very, very special guest coming up momentarily here on America First.
My former colleague in the White House, General Mike Flynn, former National Security Advisor and former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency.
You do not want to miss that interview.
Okay.
President Trump has left the courtroom again this morning in Manhattan.
And he had a message.
Apparently, breaking news is that Hamas have agreed to ceasefire terms, temporary ceasefire terms, which as I just tweeted out before we came on air, is utterly, completely meaningless.
Because they're all jihadis.
Every single one of them should be killed or captured.
A ceasefire means nothing with people who want to kill every Jew and every Christian or to enslave them.
But that is the breaking news.
President Trump had a message for Israel connected to domestic politics in America earlier this day.
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Now it just came out Columbia just cancelled their commencement.
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Columbia just cancelled their commencement.
That shouldn't happen.
And it also came out that the Protestors, many of the protestors, are backed by Biden's donors.
OK?
Are you listening Israel?
I hope you're listening Israel.
I hope you're getting smart.
But they're backed by Biden donors.
That's where the money's coming from.
Are you listening Israel?
Shockingly, I need to know why it was Politico.
But Politico published at the weekend that George Soros, big Billionaire donors like Bill Gates, George Soros, their organizations are behind the funding of the campus pro-Hamas protests.
That's very interesting.
Now why is President Trump talking about that in front of the Manhattan courtroom?
Because earlier today he was gagged again.
He was fined another thousand dollars for a post on social media concerning His trial, that he's now not allowed to talk about, to his voters and to fellow American citizens, in contravention of his First Amendment rights.
And the judge, Juan Merchan, who donated to the Biden campaign and to an anti-Trump PAC, has said, if you do it again, I will put you in prison.
He said, I don't want to, but I will.
Well, if you don't want to, Stop denuding President Trump of his First Amendment rights.
Not just as an American, but as the leader of the opposition and the man most likely to unseat the person you donated to for his presidential campaign.
Just that one sentence is a snapshot of America today.
Think about this.
Internalize this.
Burn this into your cerebellum.
This morning, a Manhattan judge said, I'm going to put you in prison, Donald Trump, if you talk about this case against you.
And you are the leader of the opposition, and I donated to the man you're trying to replace.
That's the state of America today.
We're having General Flynn on because of a film that was just released telling his story about what happened to him in the White House and after the White House.
Maybe it was wrong of me, but I allowed myself to forget, temper my anger with regards to what happened to my former colleague But this morning as I was watching the film, retelling the story, which I knew all the details of, I mean I worked in the White House with General Flynn, I very quickly became incensed once more.
Because it's one thing to talk about Biden this, DOJ that, FBI this, crazy judges that, but at some level it's all a little bit abstract to a certain degree.
But when you see a man tell the story of what happened to him, and it's someone you know, and who you worked with.
I worked with him before the inauguration.
On the Presidential Transition Team.
It was me, Mike, and his son Michael.
Just three of us.
In the Presidential National Security Council Transition Team.
And then to hear again how he had to sell his house, how his deep state law firm that was
celebrating, celebrating in internal texts about him pleading guilty to protect his son
was sending him invoices for $300,000 a month.
And how his son broke down, father to a brand new baby boy.
As his father was threatened, you plead guilty and we won't charge your son and he won't have to go to prison.
These are things that should make you angry.
Because Mike Flynn served this nation for more than 30 years in uniform with utmost honor, rising to the highest intelligence position in uniform, Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, from whence he was fired by Barack Obama.
Why?
Because he told the truth about Al-Qaeda and ISIS, about how they're stronger than ever, reconstituting themselves, how Afghanistan isn't working.
And that's why he had to be got rid of.
And that's why, when he became the National Security Advisor, he was target number two right after President Trump.
We'll talk to the man next here on America First, General Mike Flynn.
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I'm already pissed because he's only here for two segments but we've worked that out and I'm really pissed because I watched the film Flynn say the truth at whatever cost this morning and I'm angry again.
I'm angry for this man and for our nation.
Lieutenant General Mike Flynn welcome to America First.
Well, thanks.
Thanks for having me on.
I'll get back on here in a short time here, maybe next week or so, to come on for a longer period to talk about everything.
I appreciate you showing that video of my statement from the White House.
about Iran.
It's just unbelievable what's happening to this country.
Yeah, the world is on fire and for four years we were safe because President Trump was the Commander-in-Chief and because you set the stage as the 24th National Security Advisor of the United States.
I'm gonna get personal here, I'm not gonna pull any punches because I know you, I have high respect for you and I remember the days when it was just you Me and your son Michael in your office in Alexandria doing on the whiteboard the new structure of the National Security Council in the transition team.
Just the three of us doping it out and then the deep state came after you.
I'm gonna ask the first question.
People watch the movie, it's documented blow-by-blow what happened to you.
Were you betrayed by Mike Pence or was he a useful puppet of the SIS, Deep State, Obama holdovers?
Yeah, it's a combination, Seb, and I will tell you that I think everybody sees You know, where Pence, his loyalties lie, and they lie really to the establishment, not to Donald Trump, even going into the White House as his vice president.
It is really clear.
And, you know, it wasn't totally clear at the time to me.
You know, you wanted to trust the fact that the vice president of the United States.
But then as things unfolded over time, it became very clear The sort of the Judas type person that Mike Pence has become and is known for and will go down in history for.
So in the film, I really walk through this whole issue with Mike Pence and frankly Reince Priebus as well.
Because in order for them to affect what they needed to affect, which was really, you gotta get Mike Flynn out of the way.
And this all started really, it began earlier, but the day that they made the final call was the 5th of January, 2017 meeting, which we do talk about in the film.
And they needed people inside the White House as much as they needed to be able to use their minions in the media, and even Hollywood to a degree, but certainly in the media.
And so we walked through that very painfully, but very clearly in the film itself.
And yeah, your emotion is what I get out of a lot of people that are watching this thing and friends of mine, other friends of mine who are watching this thing.
And they're determined now.
Yeah.
The other emotion is a determination to not let this continue.
We cannot allow this continue.
You see what they're trying to do.
I mean, this judge again, you know, is holding Trump in, he wants to throw him in jail.
They want to throw President Trump in jail.
And so this film is really told through my lens, the persecution of what happened to me and my entire family.
Since you, you know, since you watch it, you know exactly what I'm talking about with my son, Michael, who you do know.
And, you know, and it's a very intimate portrayal of an assault and persecution on a family, but how that family bonded together, came together very powerfully and fought back and beat the deep state, beat them at their own game.
The movie is Flynn.
Deliver the truth, whatever the cost.
You can watch it right now at SalemNow.com.
General Flynn, I don't mean this as a criticism, just a kind of estimate of the situation, a statement of fact.
I have a contention that you fell into the booby trap Because you didn't realize just how evil the Deep State is and because you were too clean because before the DIA you'd actually served in combat and you weren't one of these fake DC generals who was serving in the Pentagon for decades.
Is it true to say that you were naive to the depths of the Deep State when you arrived in the White House?
You know, 100%.
100%.
The level of corruption that we are seeing in our government, you know, after all of my service overseas in combat, all of my service in operational assignments, My time in Washington, D.C., before I took over D.I.A., consisted of about a year and a half.
That's it.
Normally, guys in my career field will be in Washington, D.C.
for half their careers.
I was not.
I was in operational assignments.
And then you had a plan to actually do a massive estimate of what's going on, how much is being wasted, and that's why you had to be got rid of, because you wanted to get rid of the corruption.
Yeah, and I talk about this in the film, you know, a bit.
The National Security Council, as you saw when we got in there, consisted of about 500 people.
At the height of the Cold War, when we had the largest military in our history since World War II, and we're facing the USSR, we only had 25 people on the National Security Council.
I walk in there, day one, it's almost 500 people.
So I did.
I had a plan.
One of the things that I have always been known for, and you know this, going into assignments is as a reformer, as an agent of change, to get in and look at organizations and make them tighter, make them smarter, make them operate much more effectively.
And that was my goal going in to begin with, with the National Security Council, and then to really take a hard look at the intelligence community, principally the CIA, which has gotten out of control.
CIA, you know, was stood up to be an intelligence agency, not a covert operations organization focused against the United States of America.
The other fascinating thing about this film that we do is we take the audience back to where we say we should reassess the assassinations of the 1960s.
Hold it there.
We're up against the break.
We'll continue the discussion for our Rumble viewers.
The movie is Flynn.
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The reason that with Oswald, they have to have all these other theories of CIA, mafia, yada, yada, yada, is because the left wanted to make sure that it wasn't pinned on the communist who was a communist, which is Lee Harvey Oswald.
But it sounds like you think there's more than that.
Absolutely, there's more.
And one of the things that, you know, you'll see, and maybe we talk about this, you know, one of the things I talk about in the movie where Pence and I sat together getting a briefing from the senior leaders of the CIA, and they couldn't answer all of my questions, and they had to come back.
Yeah, they came back with a bigger team, right.
Yeah, and what that was about—and I don't want to dive into too much.
I actually talk about it in some of the B-roll, if you buy people that buy the DVD.
But one of the things I was talking to them about was the Black Book programs, all of them.
And this is to the tune of billions and billions of unaccounted dollars that the intelligence community, particularly the CIA, controls.
And even presidents aren't aware of these things.
I can tell you, President Trump wasn't briefed on these.
Mike Pence was.
He did nothing about them.
Okay, I've got loads of questions.
The next segment is going to be seven minutes, and then we'll book you for an hour next week, okay?
All right, good.
Is there a website we should put up?
Your website as well?
Yeah, FlynnMovie.com.
FlynnMovie.com.
But for your organization?
Yeah, I mean, you can go to GeneralFlynn.com is another one, but... All right, let's put that up as well.
Put FlynnMovie.com up, and that'll take people where they need to be.
That's a good one.
That has Salem on there, it has others, but it has Salem on there.
Oh, good.
Okay, good.
Good, good, good.
There we go.
Two minutes.
And how's it doing?
Do you have any sense how the movie's doing?
I mean, we are pretty much sold out at all the places we're going to.
Right now, it's number one on Amazon for all DVDs, and I've been told that we're number one on Amazon for streaming.
I don't know about Salem just yet, but I definitely want you to push Salem.
And Amanda Milius was helping me.
Was she involved with the movie?
Yes, yes, yes.
Amanda is my marketing and distribution coordinator.
But she didn't make the movie?
No, no, a guy by the name of Scott Wiper.
I wanted a director from Hollywood and I found one who was willing to do it.
And he did an amazing job.
Yeah, it's really well done.
All right.
I got three questions.
We're gonna hit them fast.
Okay.
How's your son doing?
He's doing good.
He's doing really good.
This has actually been very cathartic for him.
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
Oh, my God.
It's like to have that out there.
And because, you know, mental health and these kinds of issues affect everybody.
He's been through it and he's he's resolved.
He's resilient.
You know, he's recovered from it.
Right.
So now he's able to talk about it.
And there's so so many people resonate to that and especially the audience that we're that we're in front of.
It's unbelievable.
And it's really helpful.
How's Laurie?
She's doing great.
She's doing great.
Give her my best.
I will.
All right, 30 seconds.
All right, I'll mention Lori in a moment, then you can put up the photograph.
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In the Councils of Government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence,
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The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
Another former general and a president who warned us way back when of the military-industrial complex.
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rising to the position of national security advisor is our good friend
lieutenant general mike Flynn I want to do a quick fire round before we get you back for
a whole hour I know you're on the road.
God bless you.
First things first, what's your job if God willing the right thing happens and President Trump wins?
What are you going to do in the second administration?
Well, whatever I do, I want it to be about people and the people that are around the President.
Yes, that's the most important thing.
Yes, it's cool to be National Security Advisor or Secretary of Defense.
Number one, personnel personnel can't have traitors inside the wire.
Second, who's the number one person that drove the deep state against you, against the President, against me, against Bannon?
Is it Brennan?
Where would you have to put the chips?
Yeah, I think that there's two.
It's John Brennan and it's Andrew McCabe, who became, you know, the deputy director of the FBI and became the acting director prior to being pushed out.
And you warned President Trump.
The day you left, you warned President Trump.
And people have forgot this, but I want to play the video of President Trump.
President Trump knew something was wrong when you left the administration.
Listen to what he said.
Play the cut.
When I looked at the information, I said, I don't think he did anything wrong.
If anything, he did something right.
He was coming into office.
He looked at the information.
He said, huh, that's fine.
That's what they're supposed to do.
They're supposed to be in here.
He didn't just call Russia.
He called and spoke to both ways.
I think there were 30 some odd countries.
He's doing the job.
You know, he was just doing his job.
And then he went on to say he was an honorable man.
That's President Trump.
He knew something was up.
The CIA.
If the good guys win, what do we do?
Do we remove all the PM stuff, all the direct action, covert stuff, and make it just intelligence?
Can it be reformed?
Yes or no, General?
Yes, it can be reformed.
It needs severe reform, though, Seb.
I will tell you that one of the things in the film that I did start digging into was programs that are severely corrupt, and that's where I would begin again.
The CIA needs to go back to its origins of being an intelligence agency and conducting intelligence work and not being a covert Operations organization that's both taking down presidents and taking down countries, and right now they are filled with people that are part of this progressive left.
We have 60 seconds left.
It's clear from the movie and from my personal experience that your wife Laurie, here we are at Mar-a-Lago with my muse Kate, that she's been the rock for you.
There's a story.
The film starts with you off the coast of Rhode Island.
You know, water's a big part of your family.
At the end there's this beautiful moment where your brother explains about how you talked about America entered your life, the American people entered your life with the defense fund and suddenly you felt like you were underwater but suddenly like you were body breathing with America and you could breathe again.
Is there anybody, in addition to your wife and the people who donated, that you're talking to about three and a half million people now here, sir.
Is there anybody else you'd like to thank for standing by you in the last few years?
Yeah.
I mean, I would like to thank just, you know, so many.
I mean, definitely my extended family.
I know what I say in the film that I found my faith through my family.
I mean, my wife, Lori, and I've been together since we were 13 years old.
We've been we've been together over Almost 50 years now, I think.
Actually, 52 years.
So, I mean, there's no better person for me to thank than her.
The American people, as we highlight in that movie, came into my life.
And I run into people all the time, Seb, that bring these letters to me, that I sent to them.
People have kept these letters.
They've framed them.
He responded.
He used to get massive bins of letters, and he'd buy cards at the Dollar General store.
He'd write thank yous, and he'd send them back.
That's who that man is.
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You Yes, I do think that there's a SOCOM.
JSOC to a degree, but there is a SOCOM role there, and I think that you oversee it.
And you do have a National Security Advisor connection to the Pentagon relationship.
But it's directly with SOCOM.
And SOCOM, when the SOCOM commander comes up and presents that information, because that's an organization that actually can do that and should be doing that.
And that takes us back to the old style OSS days, which was that those are the guys that will actually do that.
The CIA has gotten so corrupt.
But do we get rid of GRS and everything else?
Just move it over to SOCOM?
Move it over to SOCOM.
Lock, stock and barrel.
Move it over to SOCOM.
And just, I mean, if we halve the budget, we'd still be okay, I think.
Oh, absolutely.
Are you kidding me?
There's so much waste in that budget, it's unbelievable.
Good.
All right.
We'll talk about all that stuff in detail, sir.
Yep.
Yep.
Thank you.
Talk to you later, brother.
All right.
See ya.
Okay.
Eric, the danalyte clip's in there if you want to get it.
Okay.
Okay.
Thank you.
Bye.
Thank you.
Okay.
And he's alright.
Hello.
Hey guys.
Hey John, how we doing?
Good, Seb, how are you?
Happy Monday.
Pissed.
I'm very pissed.
You are?
How come?
Because I just watched the new General Flynn movie and it brought it all back to me.
All the lies and how they destroyed a man or tried to destroy a man.
That's not correct.
Yeah, it is.
It's a good PTSD crater.
Trigger.
All right, what's important?
Listen, I think what Jack Smith admitted to on the Friday night is so important.
Yes, yes.
And it's the last in a long line of abuses that, you know, I've been hitting pretty hard that Jordan and And Comer should go back and prove that the 2019 impeachment testimony was false?
Yes.
So that might be a second part.
Love it, love it.
Let me see if I can find it on your timeline.
Cool.
Friday, right?
Yeah, it was late Friday.
It's the one that's in the top five still, even on Monday.
It's called Trump Whodunit.
Trump Whodunit?
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Thanks.
Thank you.
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All right, so much to discuss with a man who actually knows Almost as much about the Russia hoax as General Flynn himself, uncovering the truth for years.
He's the founder, the editor-in-chief of JustTheNews.com.
John Solomon, happy Monday.
Happy Monday.
Good to be with you, Seb.
And the hoaxes keep coming on.
We got a new one over the weekend.
Yeah, we'll talk about that in a second.
But I have to ask you a personal question.
I just, you know, I kind of let it subside.
Then I heard Mike tell the story again.
Then we just had him on the show a few moments ago.
And I'm just angered.
I'm enraged.
The FBI, the CIA, the abuse of FISA.
Are you just at a constant level of rage?
How do you deal with it, because you know so much about it?
Yeah, I try to not let emotions get in.
I want to try to be a neutral arbiter of the facts, but it's hard sometimes not to.
It's hard not to get disgusted by what you see government agencies doing with our tax dollars against the very wishes of the Founding Fathers, against the protections of the Constitution.
And whether it's on targeting parents with the full weight of the Justice Department, where we got some new documents coming out in the next couple days, or all the things we see going on in the Jack Smith case, the fact of the matter is it has only accelerated and gotten worse since Russia collusion.
The most damning thing about what Mike Flynn's movie reminds us of is that because there's been no penalty, no consequence to any of this behavior, this behavior continues to accelerate, and it does to the detriment of this republic.
Yeah, absolutely.
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You mentioned the case for Alvin Bragg.
Hope Hicks testified that testimony was good for President Trump, bad for Bragg.
However, End of last week, new revelations in the Jack Smith case, the documents case.
Tell us what people may have missed over the weekend.
So the first thing they teach you if you're an FBI agent that goes to FBI Academy, or if you go to Police Academy if you're a student, or if you go to Law 101, it's a required element of any seizure when you seize evidence that you preserve it in the state that you seized it in.
It's as basic to law and basic to investigations as anything in the rules.
And Jack Smith came in on a Friday night dump and told the American public and the court Your Honor, we did not preserve the order of documents in some of the boxes that we seized from President Trump's Mar-a-Lago homestead.
Why is that important?
President Trump's argument was going to be that the documents were in the exact same order that he received them in the White House.
He never opened up the boxes.
He didn't look at them.
He wouldn't have even known that there were classified documents in them.
They were in chronological order.
Because aides in the White House just boxed them up and sent them to Mar-a-Lago.
It wasn't a conspiracy.
It was classic bureaucracy.
But Jack Smith has eliminated or certainly harmed that argument because he allowed some of the documents to be jumbled in the boxes.
And now there are multiple orders.
There's a scanned version that was put through a scanner to create digital copies.
There's another order in the boxes.
Who knows which order is right?
That's going to inject doubt into Uh, this case and, uh, also really raises questions about both tampering and evidence, uh, preservation.
And on top of that, Jack Smith in a footnote, because he couldn't do it outright, in the footnote he said, oh, we misled the court earlier when we told them everything was preserved the way we got it.
That turns out not to be true, Your Honor.
Uh, classic Friday night dump of bad news, bad behavior, uh, but, uh, a case of evidence tampering, evidence altering.
In one of the most high-profile prosecutions in American history, makes you wonder whether the Justice Department can really do its job.
Well, your father was a police officer, right, John?
He was, for 46 years.
Well, isn't rule number one chain of custody?
It is.
Chain of custody and evidence preservation.
Right.
Doesn't get any more simple than that.
This is not something that could have been an accident.
It's just too careless or too intentional.
We don't know which yet.
It's a real problem, and several of the legal experts I talked to, Alan Dershowitz, Tim Parlatori, all said that this is going to become a big matter as this moves closer to the trial date.
Does this seem to you, of all the lawfare instances being used during an election time, to be the most precarious of cases?
Especially because of the National Archives, the information that's come out about the National Archives coordinating with the White House and everything else?
Listen, it has its origins in the Biden White House.
Anytime you see the current president trying to use the powers of the Justice Department to go after their chief political rival and likely 2024 challenger, that sends a red flag off.
But then you start to take a look at some of the things that we've uncovered in the last year.
You had people in the archives saying, we don't do prosecutions at the moment.
The Biden administration went to escalate the Trump document.
We've always handled these things through negotiation and getting it resolved.
Then you take a look at the raid on Mar-a-Lago, which a lot of people think wasn't justified
by the warrant request.
You take a look at this tampering that went on now.
You take a look at the fact that before the Biden administration accelerated the prosecution
of Donald Trump, they had found out that Joe Biden had a similar problem at the Penn-Biden
Center.
It just doesn't feel like the right thing to do in America to have this prosecution
That's why so many people, a majority of Americans, are suspicious of it.
And Joe Biden walks free because, by the determination of the prosecutor, he was a doddering old man who would be sympathetic because he was so forgetful.
And President Trump, just a few years younger than Joe Biden, doesn't get the same treatment.
Everything about this prosecution makes a lot of Americans uncomfortable, if not have a bad case of pepsi.
What should we expect in the coming days and weeks?
What do you think we'll see either out of Comer or Jim Jordan's offices?
Great question.
Just a few moments ago, we learned that Jim Jordan is going to hold Merrick Garland in contempt for not providing the Robert Herr audio tapes to go along with the transcripts.
That's going to be a big fight.
It's going to remind everybody that maybe the Justice Department has something to hide.
If Robert Hurt really thought he was so confused, let's hear how confused Joe Biden was.
The American public deserves to know that.
Jim Jordan fighting for that.
I think the big opportunity for these committees is we now know from all the evidence that
we won in lawsuits that much of the testimony in the 2019-2020 Ukraine impeachment against
President Trump is demonstrably false.
We can show that it was false.
It seems to me that it's incumbent on Congress to go back, look at that, present that to the American people, and decide whether that impeachment was actually warranted, given that the evidence may be very different from the testimony given at the time.
We'll see if Comer and Jordan have the bandwidth to do that.
We've been talking to John Solomon.
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For Flynn and for Solomon.
Jack Smith's case is falling apart daily.
Oh, Jack Smith's Friday document dump.
Okay.
Friday document dump.
And for Flynn.
For Flynn, um... Jeff, what do you think is better?
I was naive or Pence was Judas?
Pence.
Pence.
Yeah, definitely.
Okay.
Pence was... Was it Pence was Judas or Pence was our Judas?
How do we... I think our Judas, probably.
I think it's what he said, too.
Yeah, okay, good.
For the hour long next week, I'll... Was he gonna be in studio or is that... No, no, no, he'll be on the road.
Okay.
15th or 16th, I think he said.
Okay.
Okay.
And then do you wanna do the Casio cuts?
Oh, sure, yeah.
50 seconds.
2, 3, 5, 12 to 4... Oh, sorry, 2, 3, 5, 9.
12 to 4, oh sorry, 2, 3, 5, 9. Let's start with those.
President Trump has a message for Israel about who's funding the jihadi protests
All right.
Three.
I do love when, at SE Cup, channels Marie Antoinette, M-A-R-I-E, Antoinette, two Ts at
the end.
I think these polls are tight because Donald Trump's voters have very low standards and
Joe Biden's voters have standards that are probably a little too high.
Bye.
So Donald Trump has got a fan base that doesn't care about all the things that would normally drag down a candidate.
And I think Joe Biden's voters are demanding Stop it.
Stop it.
Trump's voters have too low standards, but Biden's have too high standards.
Like what?
Saying from the river to the sea and kill more babies.
Jeff, what is it with S.E.
Cupp?
What has happened to her?
I mean, she's like transforming and it's not in a good way.
It's the easiest way to stay on CNN.
Oh, I'm a Republican, but even me, I can't stand Trump in all this.
That's all.
You pretend to be Republican and then you just say every Democrat talking point.
But she didn't learn from Rachel Maddow and Jen Psaki and Joy Reid on Super Tuesday saying, what do you mean the voters care about illegal immigration?
Does she not learn from these people?
Nope, she's just playing the part.
Playing the part.
And cashing a check.
OK, so here's another example of just how high standards the Biden voters are.
Jeff found this.
I can't believe this is real.
I think this must be a conservative, but it's not.
It's from TikTok.
It's some lesbian woman in a fake animated keffiyeh on her head talking about how she'd be really safe in, what did she do?
Palestine.
One of the most common comments I receive in the comments of all of my videos is that if I went to Palestine as a non-binary queer person that I would be unalived by them.
I just want to say that the majority of my followers at this point are Muslim.
Many of them are Palestinian.
And not a single time have I received a death threat or unkind words from any of them.
I have been invited to people's homes.
I have been called dear and I have been called habibi.
These people do not know hate the way that Zionists know hate.
I am less afraid of a palestinian or a muslim than I am of a christian man because all of the christian men in my comments are hateful and I have received death threats from them.
Eric what is palestinian?
What is that?
Listening to it a second time I'd swear that thing is saying palestinian.
I hear more of an f sound than a p but it's I'm literally thinking I know we reviewed it recently of young frankenstein it's not palestine it's palestine.
Alex, is it possible that's a parody or are they just that lunatic?
We should test her theory and send her to the Middle East and see what happens.
I swear, I swear, I will buy her an economy class ticket to the Middle East and see how long she survives in Palestine.
These people are lunatics.
Just keep bringing me stuff like that, Jeff.
It's so good.
If you want to have peace and safety back in America, in the world, how about that?
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Eric, where was that?
That was at a little thing called the Formula One in Miami yesterday.
President Trump went to the Formula One?
Mm-hmm.
And apparently the car that he visited before the race ended up going on to win the race.
Well, that is a very good sign, isn't it?
We don't know Jinx anything, but that's super exciting.
Whether it's Harlem or whether it's Formula One, it's USA, USA.
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President Trump is back in court momentarily.
There should be closing comments for the day and then President Trump will talk again.
But this is what he had to say earlier today in Manhattan.
Talking about, um, well, the first gag order against the defendant.
Cut one!
Can you testify?
The gangler, as to that first question, as you know, they've taken away my constitutional rights,
so I'm not allowed to answer that question.
This has never happened in this country before. It's a ridiculous thing.
It's a ridiculous case. I did nothing wrong. Absolutely nothing wrong.
Take a look at Greg Jarrett this morning. He went on.
Take a look at Andrew McCarthy or Jonathan Turley or Markleton.
It's like they say there's no case here, and yet the judges gagged me,
and I'm not allowed to talk about, I guess, his total conflict.
The judge is totally conflicted and you ought to take a look at it.
And I'm not supposed to be talking about it.
But I am allowed to say that the judge is a conflict that, like, nobody's ever had before.
You ought to take a look at it.
He's taken away my constitutional right to speak.
I was in Miami this weekend, and reporters are asking me questions, the same questions like you're asking me, and I have to say I have a gang order.
I can't speak about it.
Never happened before, ever.
Number one.
Number two, it's a fake trial.
They have no case.
And it's been absolutely proven now that no case whatsoever.
This is Alvin Bragg doing it for political reasons, for Biden.
This is a Biden trial.
He's a crooked president.
That was 921 this morning in Manhattan outside the court where President Trump is as we speak.
There is no better person to discuss this than a person who, both a presidential historian, a justice reform advocate, and a man who understands the media better than most.
He's one of our fan favorites, Lord Conrad Black.
Welcome back to America First.
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Lord Black, I want to just do a kind of what-if with you for a moment, as somebody who understands presidential history, American politics, and sadly, the judicial system here in America.
The judge this morning fined the president a tenth time, and then said, if you do it again, I'm throwing you in jail.
Now, we know Juan Merchan has donated as a charge to the Trump campaign, donated to the Biden campaign, and then donated to an anti-Trump super PAC.
And his daughter has made millions.
Not to mention the daughter who's literally making millions as we speak from Democrats like Adam Schiff and Kamala Harris and who's profiting from her father's trial against the president.
What would happen, in your estimation, if this Democrat judge threw the leader of the opposition in jail?
I believe the Court of Appeal in New York would release him within a few hours.
Really?
Yeah, I think so.
Look, I'm not, in the first place, I'm not an expert on criminal procedure in the United States, and in the second place, Even if I was, this is such a perverted and politicized, prostituted system that they're operating.
It would even bring this outrageous indictment that the predictions are hazardous.
But I think if you percolate up into more serious courts, you'll get something more approximating justice.
And the idea of Throwing the man that all polls indicate is the people's choice for the next president of the United States, having previously held that office, into confinement, incarceration, on nonsense like this, you would quite quickly find a court and a justice on that court who would resurrect some semblance of a society of laws.
It's outrageous, the sort of thing that goes on in Pakistan or Peru or something, but surely to God, not the United States.
Your latest piece I have in my hand for the New York Sun is a general discussion of the state of the politics, the campaigns here in the United States, and you talk of what's happening on the college campuses.
Is this a redo of the 1960s?
Is this qualitatively different?
How should we think of today's demonstrations given those precedents?
I think it's very much different and quite easily distinguishable.
And I'll tell you why.
And in that distinction, I also include a response to Senator Bernie Sanders' claim that this, you know, the Gaza War could be Biden's Vietnam.
That is absolute nonsense.
As everyone who knows anything about those days, or particularly those of us who remember them, are aware, there were 545,000 American draftees In Vietnam, coming home 200 to 400 in body bags every week.
And what the students were demonstrating against, basically, now they claimed it was the immorality of the war and how the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese were actually not bad people and so forth.
That was all rubbish.
What they were really saying is, we don't want to be drafted.
And furthermore, as a matter of fact, we don't think our country should be engaged in this war.
But it was a shooting war in which 57,000 American young men died.
And in my own view, it was a just war, and we could have won it.
And I don't forgive the Democrats for pulling the plug after Mr. Nixon had saved the war that they started and mismanaged.
But that's another issue.
Here, they don't have any complaint at all with Israel except You know, some Muslims and some gullible, useful idiots that have been produced at immense cost to society by the anti-American and subversive faculties of these universities have got it in their minds that bad things are happening in Gaza.
But that is not the opinion of the overwhelming majority of Americans.
And it is not an opinion that they can defend.
They cannot defend that argument in any serious discussion, whether it's a Palestinian arguing
the whole complicated issue of the proper borders in that area post the Palestinian
In fairness to those people in the 60s, and I didn't have much toleration of them either, but I understand a young person not wanting to go and risk his life in Vietnam.
it is, which is a good many of them, from what I can see, that don't know that.
So I don't think it's anything like the same.
In fairness to those people in the 60s, and I didn't have much toleration of them either,
but I understand a young person not wanting to go and risk his life in Vietnam.
I understand that.
But here, nobody's at risk of anything, and the whole thing is nonsense.
Yeah, you must have an opinion.
I'm curious, given your former media responsibilities as a publisher of some of the biggest titles on both sides of the Atlantic, why would Politico ...reveal that the funders, the biggest funders of these protests are Soros, Bill Gates, the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation, and the Pritzker family.
Isn't it strange that Politico, a very hard-left publication, looks to be throwing these liberal funders under the bus?
Or is this some rearguard maneuver, in your opinion?
I'm not well qualified to put myself in their shoes and explain their motive, because I don't know the individual.
I do know the site, and it is, of course, as you just described, it is a left-wing site.
The only thing I can think of is, if they have reached the stage of uh... sort of pervert in this cold drama and and you know
good many factions uh... around the political landscape are pretty fervent at
this point uh... one side and another
uh... that that they want to flex their muscles and show their strength and say
we have the rockefellers I mean, that they have George Soros is not such a surprise, but, you know, any part of the Rockefeller family, there are eight foundations there, and they're all immensely rich.
Hold on, we're up against the clock.
The website is Conrad M. Black, and the book that you have to get, his latest, is The Political and Strategic History of the World.
We'll be back with Lord Black in a moment.
But I think it's actually useful.
I hate to say this, old David Rockefeller was sort of a friend of mine, but the way they They justify Lenin's famous statement that the capitalists are so stupid they'll sell us the rope we hang them with.
I don't understand what these foundations are doing.
Soros is a special case.
He's got his own game.
Who else did you say they outed?
The Pritzkers, Bill Gates and the Pritzkers and the Rockefellers.
Well, there you've got that.
That's a surprise.
I mean, you hear Pritzker, one of them is the governor of Illinois, who has the delusional madness to envision himself as a president.
And Bill Gates, we all knew he had a lot of soft left ideas, but that he'd actually be... I never thought of him for a second as anti-Semitic or anti-Israel, did you?
I didn't have any prior evidence of that effect, but I think it's what they call the latest thing.
You have to be in support of the latest thing.
The other thing may be, and I'm doing now what I always say to you I shouldn't do, is pretend to psychoanalyze somebody.
I don't really.
I met him once, but I don't know him.
But if I'm not mistaken, he didn't complete his degree at Harvard, and he may be one of these guys who thinks that the universities, as I always thought, the
universities were overrated and needed a good kick in the behind, you know?
And so that may be part of it.
But that's rank speculation.
Will you play for me, please, Eric, the Scarborough Cut, cut four?
Yeah.
Bernie Sanders or Mike Pence as President of the United States, we have a Constitution that rounds off the sharp edges because they respect the guardrails of American democracy.
Donald Trump is unique in the fact that he does not.
And I've just got to say again, it's what, it's, it is as John said, it's, I'm a conservative guy from, from Northwest Florida, uh, and there are progressives on the other side.
We agree that we're at a moment right now where we all need to come together and protect this democracy, protect this constitution.
Who's that?
Scarborough, of course.
Joe Scarborough.
He's protecting the Constitution.
Okay, all right.
Now it becomes desperately simple.
It takes a lunatic like that to say such a thing.
All right, I'm going to play for you a shortcut from Hakeem Jeffries, who wants to be Speaker of the House but is controlling the Democrats right now.
This is from the weekend's 60 Minutes, but I'll tee it up as we come in.
Okay, tee it up.
Yeah, I'll tee it up.
And then we've got Cruz at the top here.
Cruz at the top.
Did you get a screener for the Flynn movie?
I did this morning.
Yeah.
Is it something I can use, or is it just your email?
You can use it, but now and again they put my name right in the middle of the screen.
That doesn't matter, right?
I don't care about that, yeah.
Alright, I'll send you the link.
All right, thanks.
Cruise at the top.
Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
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I do like that, Alex.
Ah, good stuff.
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Lord Black, even in the break, you mentioned it.
I don't know how many times we've said this in the last however many years you've been on my show, that we don't psychoanalyse here.
OK, I'll give you that.
But let's talk about The phenomena of crying wolf and whether it works politically.
Here we have the leader of the Democrats in the lower house, Hakeem Jeffries, who is, to use American parlance, being a little bit of a chicken little.
Cut eight.
It's about freedom, and the extreme right Republicans have set in motion the erosion of reproductive freedom.
We're going to fight for it with everything that we've got at our disposal.
If Roe v. Wade can fall, anything can fall.
Social Security can fall.
Medicare can fall.
Voting rights can fall.
And God help us all, but democracy itself can fall.
They sound like broken records.
So first this phrase, extreme MAGA Republicans, and then this phraseology as if it's the Roman Empire, that if Roe v. Wade can fall, which was actually a decision of the Supreme Court, then democracy can fall.
Isn't there a point at which this simply doesn't resonate anymore because they've cried wolf too many times?
I think there is, and I think we're at it, and I think it is not just that they've cried wolf so often, it is that that is all they have.
On the main policy issues upon which elections are traditionally decided, and on the main issues that all polls show are uppermost in the minds of the voters, inflation, immigration, crime, the rigors of this terror that they're imposing on behalf of absurd green objectives and stability in the world, which
is crumbling on all continents except North America, in all of that, this administration
has failed.
It's underwater in the polls and all of them.
So when you haven't got anything that you can defend in your record, you claim the opponent is going to overthrow democracy.
Now, the fact that in order to stop the opponent, they've corrupted the justice system, corrupted the intelligence services, corrupted the FBI, had them all join in a spurious I hate to use the word, but it amounts to a conspiracy to get what they knew to be, the leaders of those agencies, knew to be mere propaganda, pastiche of lies, commissioned and paid for by the Clinton campaign in 2016, into the public record as authentic intelligence, and not just journalism, and all of the other enormities they've committed, the spurious
Impeachments, and now this effort to sandbag the leader of the opposition with a lot of utterly spurious indictments.
And we see this spectacle unfolding every day in the courthouse in New York, which is not only an issue where no crime has been alleged, but one that has got to rank as the most incompetent prosecution I've ever seen, albeit they have no case, it's still incompetent.
They are the ones who are threatening democracy, and in proper Saul Alinsky terms, you accuse your opponent of doing what you are in fact doing yourself.
And this is just nonsense.
What has Trump done to offend democracy?
Nothing, that's what.
And does it not speak to some form of desperation akin to the hiding in the basement of 2020, that for more than 10 days, Biden says nothing about the pro-Hamas demonstrations on U.S.
campuses.
And when he does, he says something impromptu and extemporaneous that posits some kind of moral equivalency between Israel and Hamas.
I mean, wouldn't you have something prepared?
It seems as if there's no campaign strategy.
That's the impression.
I think those two are, again, distinguishable.
In 2020, they could get away with keeping a very gaffe-prone candidate out of the public eye on grounds of this uh... pandemic that they had a height
forceful shutdowns on and so forth uh... ed
in order to create an economic deterioration of they could then blame
on trump and uh... and here
uh... it seems to me that with the mistake they made the tactical mistake
they made four years ago opening the doors of the democratic party which we know
whatever one thinks of it from
one election to the next is a party with a distinguished history going
back to jefferson and madison And they've had many great leaders, like Franklin Roosevelt and Kennedy and LBJ and so on, and Truman.
They opened the doors to these extremists who hate America, threatened every night on television four years ago, four summers ago, to burn America down, produced the summer of love of these peaceful demonstrations that did two billion dollars of damage and killed dozens of people and injured hundreds of people.
They let those people in.
And now, And now they are an important segment of the steadily diminishing share of the electoral pie that the Democratic Party has, and their leader does not have the virtuosity or the courage to seriously reconcile the traditional reasonable Democrats with these woke extremists.
And so all he can do is say nothing and then come up with, I believe, About a five-sentence statement that, as you say, equates the demonstrators and the campuses and the terrorists of Hamas with the state of Israel and the Jewish people.
I mean, it is both, as you say, the lack of a strategy and a state of panic and a complete incompetence to put up the best I mean, if this was Bill Clinton who suddenly was there, or John F. Kennedy or FDR or something, I mean, they'd finesse it and design around it and handle it in a way that was sort of stylish.
At least you'd give them the credit of people who do the best they can in a very bad situation.
But this is just amateur night.
Amateur night tainted by senility.
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Yes.
You know, I don't want to get too far out here on a limb, but I don't see it right now as that close an election.
I mean, where Rasmussen says it's a ten-point lead and CNN, it must have killed them to do it, say Trump's got a six-point lead.
I mean, I just don't think it's that close right now.
If you're a Trump voter, Are you all going to be, you know, honest about that?
So if it's a six-point lead against those who actually declare, could it be a 10, 12, 15-point lead?
Well, because of the bias of the pollster, you see, I see that the National Public Radio Public Broadcasting poll still has Biden ahead by two points, which just shows there's such a left-wing network.
The poll is something like Would you rather have a democracy like Trump or a benign statesman like Biden or something?
You know, some poll question like that, you know?
But where CNN, which is a left-wing, that's the first poll they've ever produced that had Trump leading anybody in anything.
And for them to produce that, I think the ground is shifting.
But look, I may be wrong.
It may end, God knows what may happen six months from now.
As of now, it looks to me like Trump's pulling away.
The case is collapsing in New York.
Lawfare is collapsing.
Lyra Trump and the new Republican chairman are dead serious about combating harvest balloting.
And they're winning some cases here and there to restrain what the Democrats can do.
They say they'll have 100,000 workers focused directly on this.
I mean, as of now, it's just getting worse and worse for Biden.
I mean, the only thing I can think of that he could pull something out of the hat would be if he managed to get credit for a tolerable settlement of the war in Ukraine.
But, you know, I don't know.
I mean, maybe Russia would do that because they would rather do that than, you know, deal with Trump when he came.
But I can't think of anything else that he's got in his bag of tricks that'll really help here, except an all-out effort to steal the election.
I mean, I think the lawfare option is failing.
The Supremes aren't going to let those cases of Smith go ahead before an election, and the thing in Georgia's a farce.
It's something you put on television in the afternoons.
Thank you kindly, Conrad.
Thanks, Sebastian.
God bless.
Bye-bye.
Uh, come in with, um... Do you want the Trump cut from this now?
Yeah, yeah.
He basically... What are you talking about?
In a certain... He kind of dared the judge to sign the deal.
That's what I thought.
That's what I thought.
I'll tee it up, but come in with, uh, 13.
How long is the cut, Jeff?
I think 37 seconds.
37 seconds.
We also have the Dana White cut if you want it.
Oh, can you play that?
How long is it?
Sure.
14 seconds.
Go play it.
Actually, let me get into this real quick.
It pisses me off.
I flew all the way out here and you guys give me 60 seconds?
My name is Dana.
Is that not trans enough for you liberals?
You can block the phones.
Okay, coming in with 13.
Yeah.
Yesterday, we're with Barron Trump.
Barron's a very interesting guy.
The son of Donald Trump, 6768.
We're doing a podcast with Ryan Garcia.
He stays there and he walks.
He said, let me walk you to your car.
The son of a billionaire who's a president says, let me walk you to your car.
He's working customer service.
He walks us to our car and he's standing there until we get in the car to leave.
He says, look, No matter what I do, no matter what my brothers do, no matter how much money we make, our success will never come close to what our father had to do.
Because he really had the hard life, not us.
We have an easy life.
He just turned 18?
Are you kidding me?
Like, what a freaking stat of a kid to say something like that, right?
That's our friend Patrick Bet-David.
I just found that I think on Instagram he met Barron Trump and he was just blown away that this what is it six foot eight kid just turned 18 walks the guest to the car son of a billionaire and talks about what his dad has achieved and we'll never get to that so the least I can do is is be a good host.
God bless you Patrick for sharing that and also Barron Trump who will have his father At his high school graduation, because I guess the left's still a little bit afraid of President Trump, who just said the following, daring the judge, will the judge throw him in jail after he warned him this morning, one more time and it's going to be jail for you.
Well, President Trump a few minutes ago left the court and said this.
And it's a disgrace.
And then you have the other thing that maybe is even more disgraceful is the gay part.
Where I can't basically... I have to watch every word I tell you people.
You ask me a question, a simple question, I'd like to give it, but I can't talk about it.
Because this judge has given me a gag order and said, you'll go to jail if you violate it.
And frankly, you know what?
Our Constitution is much more important than jail.
It's not even close.
I'll do that sacrifice any day.
But what's happening here is a disgrace of the appellate court, so to get involved, The Constitution is more important than going to jail.
I'll do that any day.
Jeff, Jeff, what is he doing?
Of course he is.
He's daring the judge right now to put him in jail.
Oh my giddyot.
And who did we see in the background there, Eric?
Who was in the back?
That was the one we call the Baron, Boris Epstein.
You mean our regular guest was right there with the President?
Yep.
It took a moment, but when Jeff pointed it out, I instantly recognized him.
I was like, oh yeah, that is Boris already.
You mean the guy who comes on our show all the time?
Yep, once a week, on Fridays.
That's very cool.
That's very cool.
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Let's go to Raomi in Hawaii, line one.
Aloha, Dr. Gorka.
I'm a little hot here, so... What's the temperature?
What's the humidity?
Like 100 degrees humidity?
What is it?
100%?
You know what?
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful out here.
You know, it's probably like 75 degrees, but Hakeem Jeffries is turning me up to 100 million!
100 million out here right now!
You're not a fan of Hakeem Jeffries, the potential Speaker of the House of the Democrats?
Oh my lord.
I mean, I know that in some way he knows the real God, and this is why I have to call him out right here.
Like Charlie Kirk says, whenever I give a speech, it's simple action.
Don't lie, and don't let other people lie to you.
This dude is a liar!
You are lying!
Because you can't say, oh, it's reproductive right there.
Anything else is going to fail.
What are you?
Are you thinking about the reproductive rights of that child in there?
I mean, I'm not even a hardcore pro-lifer, but really, dude?
Oh, if the killing of the children fails, then everything's going to fail.
Dude, there's a reckoning, and there are natural consequences that will follow if you say these lies.
Don't lie and don't let other people lie to you.
He is lying.
You are lying, dude.
You are lying.
But just as bad as that...
Think what he's saying.
He says, the fall of Roe v. Wade.
Hang on a second.
What happened to Roe v. Wade?
The highest court in the land correctly deemed it to be garbage law, struck it down, and then sent the issue back to the state.
So what is he saying?
Is Hakeem Jeffries saying that the Supreme Court should be got rid of?
That's really dangerous, isn't it?
Well, it's communist.
Yeah, totally.
Absolutely.
The idea that law should be predictable, that we should actually respect the Constitution.
All right, my friend, try and cool down.
I know it's Hawaii.
Just think of Magnum, P.I., and those beautiful, beautiful umbrella-ed drinks at the Kamea Kamea Club.
We don't get enough calls from Hawaii.
We'll go to your calls in a moment.
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We haven't done Dana White yet.
Yeah, that's a short one, that's easy.
We did Hakeem.
There's also that stupid rap.
Oh, we gotta do the rap thing.
Don Lamond's also pretty good.
Come in with Lamond and I'll do Patriot.
Can you adjust the camera so the top of Katie's book thing isn't cut off?
Marks him just up half an inch.
There we go, good, thank you.
Alright, come in with Nine.
Oh, and, no, no, hang on.
Do 9, and then I'll tee up 11, because it goes to the last caller so well.
9, then 11.
Okay.
And Daynor is what?
Set 18?
Uh, 14 seconds.
Yeah, let's call it cut 18.
You know what it is?
Trump saw that Murchan blinked.
Because, you know, he blinked with letting him go to Barron's graduation.
You're right.
So he knows now that Murchan may wave it around a lot, but I don't think he'll pull that trigger.
He knows what that would do for them.
Jeff, can you send that nude Trump cut to Casio with the following text?
Go ahead.
Put it in quote marks.
The Constitution's more important than me having to go to jail.
Comma, I'd do it any day.
President Trump just now daring Judge Murchan to lock him up.
That's really good.
Need a title for Black as well.
For Black, yeah that was good.
Patriot Mobile.
Biden and the Democrats are all desperate.
Yeah, I can't imagine why Politico would come out with that piece.
Yeah, it's so weird.
That does not help Biden in the slightest.
And I don't think Conrad's right that it's some kind of flex.
No.
That doesn't make sense.
I'm not sure why he said this is not like 1968.
I think it absolutely is getting to be towards like 1968.
No, he's saying it because he's saying what Bernie Sanders said is garbage, which is true, right?
We're not having GIs being killed every day in Southeast Asia.
No, no, no.
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How do you reconcile the way marginalized groups, many of the people in these marginalized groups, obviously they are fighting for Palestine, for the Palestinians, for what's happening in Gaza.
But yet in Gaza, they would not have any freedom.
They don't have freedoms in Texas and Florida.
Does that mean?
But they don't.
But I understand that.
But Taylor, Taylor, I'm a member of the LGBTQ community.
If I go to Texas, they're not going to throw me off of a roof.
What is happening to Don Lemon, Jeff?
Is he like rehearsing to come on Salem?
Does he want to show with us or what?
I think he's copying what Chris Cuomo did.
How he went to the middle and then he got that NewsNation job.
And I'm confused.
Taylor Lorenz said that gay people don't have their rights in Texas and Florida.
Like what rights don't they have, Jeff?
That's exactly what I was thinking too.
Because you hang out a lot in Florida.
You like Florida for some weird reason, right?
Weird reason.
Everybody likes Florida except for you.
Eric, help me out.
What are the LGBTQ rights that you don't have if you're in Florida or in Texas?
Maybe you... I guess you don't have the right to mutilate little kids?
Oh, that right!
Well, that's jolly good that you don't have that right.
So strange.
So very, very strange.
Okay, fresh cut.
What is this from, Jeff?
This is a roast for who?
Some sportsman?
Tom Brady.
Okay, Tom Brady.
There was a long roast right at the weekend.
Yes.
And then Dana White was invited to speak at it, right?
Yes.
For how long?
60 seconds.
I guess that was the problem.
This is what Dana White had to say.
Actually, let me get into this real quick.
It pisses me off.
I flew all the way out here and you guys give me 60 seconds?
My name is Dana.
Is that not trans enough for you liberals?
That's enough for you, Beep.
We've got to get that guy on the show.
Just so much value for money.
Okay, to the last caller.
We'll get to Lido in a second in San Diego, but the last caller about Hakeem Jeffries lying about reproductive rights, totally.
I found this online at the weekend.
I don't know who the man is, but he lost his daughter because the mother aborted her.
And it is powerful.
Just listen to this average American story about his experience of the truth of choice.
Cut at 11.
My daughter's name is Clementine.
She was five months along when she was aborted.
My daughter was healthy.
I begged her mother not to go through with the abortion.
She was confused and she regrets it now.
My daughter was five months and she was ripped apart.
My daughter doesn't get a funeral.
This has been a month and three days.
I have her sonogram picture the first time I heard her heartbeat and I bring this up to people and I say, well, she had a heartbeat.
Wasn't she a person?
And I'm being told she's a fetus, which by the way, everybody that's Latin for offspring.
So I don't know why we're speaking Latin.
I speak English.
I'm told by my friends, I'm crying over somebody I never met before.
Why isn't my daughter human enough for people to care?
Why isn't my daughter woman enough for her to have a body and for her to have a choice?
My daughter was going to be beautiful.
As a father, I'm just supposed to forget.
I'm just supposed to move on.
I don't know who did this to my daughter.
I wish I could ask him, was my daughter beautiful?
My daughter matters.
She is loved.
And I hope that everybody can keep her memory alive too.
Thank you.
What do you think of that, Eric?
Isn't that good?
I think that's powerful.
That's one aspect of the abortion debate that is not talked about enough is when the woman just decides unilaterally, yeah, I can kill the kid, even though the father does not want that to happen.
I remember seeing a viral video a little while back of a guy in a similar situation.
He looked like he could have been in college, a young guy, outside the abortion clinic, on his knees, crying and wailing because the girl had gone in and refused to listen to him.
Yeah, yeah.
I think it's the part of abortion that, you know, should be emphasized.
It takes two to create that life.
Let's go to San Diego Line 2.
Lido.
Dr. Gorka, great to talk to you again.
Don't worry, my friend, because even if Trump... I don't... I expect Trump to be the president again, but regardless, he did his job.
2016 changed everything.
He exposed them.
He turned over every rock.
We know who they are now, and they cannot back away from it.
We know exactly what their plan is, and now we see them for who they are.
Subversives and America haters.
And this is what's going on that you... that they don't even...
Acknowledge.
Here in San Diego, we have so many people who lost their jobs and their businesses when they didn't take that damn shot.
They are waiting.
We have the brilliant people, all those brilliant minds, civilian and military, who are just sitting out there not knowing what to do.
We're getting together with those people because I worked with those people.
And trust me, all those John Galts, they're just waiting.
All those brilliant minds are just waiting because this government is folding.
We have a president who cannot govern.
So we have to be ready.
And trust me, there will be people to step into the breach.
It doesn't have to be Trump.
He is not alone.
We're not vocal.
But trust me, the work is going on.
Yeah, but what does that mean, step into the breach?
Because if we don't win, then Biden stays in power or his puppet masters.
Point, Sebastian.
This government cannot govern.
So we have to be ready locally.
We have to be ready within our communities to step into the breach for our people that are right in our faces and then branch out from there.
Because this But I'll ask you one more time, what does that mean, step into the breach?
No, I appreciate that.
But we have to make sure that he wins.
Stay on the line, Lido.
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A patriotic call, and I found Another patriot in Hollywood.
It's a little bit shocking.
Liv Schreiber, who is of Ukrainian descent.
He was given some award and the Ukrainian ambassador was there and he didn't take it all that well because he wanted to explain what it means to be an American and it's rather powerful.
Cut 12.
I'm actually not Ukrainian.
Ambassador, I'm American, and I'm actually very, very proud of what that means.
not just to me but to my family and probably most of all to my grandparents and great-grandparents
who risked their lives
fleeing Eastern Europe to come to this country so that I could stand in front of all of you and say how
lucky and proud I am To stand in front of all of you.
I doubt there are many people in this room who don't have a grandparent or great-grandparent who didn't come from somewhere else.
Who didn't work double shifts, overtime, night shifts, canning fish, selling beer in bodegas, so that we could have the kind of opportunities that we have.
And to me, that's what it means to be American.
God bless him.
Another patriot.
Good for you, Liev Schreiber.
He may have Ukrainian grandparents, but he's an American, and he understands the American Dream.
Well done.
We need more to come out of the closet, tell the truth.
Tell the truth about America and why they're proud to be Americans.
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That's for the, uh, the TBN interview.
They want you to fill that out, I guess.
Like, that's their way of you giving information on, like, your title and what you want the car on and whatnot.
No!
Okay, okay, okay.
Just tell me.
Tell them to send it to you as a PDF and you can fill it out.
I mean, seriously, it's not... I'm not signing a DocuSign contract.
It's like... I know, that was... I was surprised by that too.
And I'm gonna do the dance thing here.
Alright.
Did I get through every cut?
Oh Scarborough.
I'm not going to use Scarborough.
I don't like Scarborough.
I thought we played it for Black in the Break.
Yeah, that counts.
We also didn't play the Kelly cut.
Seven.
Is Jeff happy?
Is he happy?
No, Kelly's just a loser.
He says no.
Is he ever happy?
When is Jeff happy?
Florida.
I'm happy a lot of the time.
He's happy when rhinos are suffering.
That's when he's happy.
I think I've seen him smile when rhinos are suffering.
I think we're all happy when that happens.
But he really hates rhinos.
Yes.
It's like a religion for him.
He's of the church of the hating rhinos.
I despise people that tell people to give you money and then tell them that you're going to do this to vote for you.
And they know they're lying when they say it.
That's the problem.
Controlled opposition.
Alright, you said come in with ten or tee it up?
See you later.
See you later.
Okay.
Bye.
No hate speech.
Just Happy Warriors on America First!
When did Hannity stop wearing a tie?
What's that all about?
He doesn't take it seriously anymore?
Jeff, he always used to wear a tie.
What's he like, phoning it in now?
What's going on?
I think he still wears it on the night.
Why?
Is he on now?
I saw him do an ad and he's like, no tie or something.
Maybe that's his casual look for the commercial.
Okay.
I got through almost every cut of the show.
I've got one important one left.
How do I know it's important?
If mild-mannered John the Chief Engineer starts shaking his head, you know it's bad.
Am I right, Eric?
Absolutely.
Because usually he, like, stays in the back making sure everything works.
Cool, calm, and collected.
And when I review a clip and he goes, like, eyes like saucers, shakes his head.
We have to share this with the world.
It's not a parody.
I can't believe this is real.
This is from the current students, oh, my dear Lord, of the Harvard School of Medicine.
I'm going to regret this.
Cut 10.
Looking at my notes, but my knowledge ain't fleeting.
Spaced repetition, give me something to believe in.
Passed all my tests, but I just skimmed the reading.
In the food chain, we're the ones that eat ya.
Harvard Med, ain't no bottom feeder.
MD stands for my demeanor.
Ask permission before I ever greet ya.
Does it radiate?
Does it come with strain?
Scale 1 to 10, can you rate the pain?
When I knock the door, you ask, who is it?
You can check my coat, it'll spell my name.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're messing with some Harvard MDs.
Found my best friends for life from this Harvard MD.
Giving everything we got for this Harvard MD.
Now from the top, make it drop, come get your Harvard MD.
You got your offer, now say yes to this Harvard MD.
We're talking doc doc doc that's a Harvard MD. You deserve this spot. You got future Harvard MD
There's some dogs in this house. There's some dogs in this house. There's some dogs in this house. There's some dogs
Alex With all that's going on
With the billions of dollars they have the millions they get from federal government
then the pro-terrorist demonstrations It's a lot of fun.
It's probably not the right time to drop a Harvard Medical School rap video, don't you think?
I agree, and every man in that video should have their man card revoked.
I think they've already had their... their gonads removed already, so I think that goes without saying.
I just... I can't ask John, he doesn't have his headset on.
Jeff, would you care to comment on that?
I'm just hoping that Harvard Law does one and Ben Shapiro does it, because he's a rapper now.
Oh, John, I can't see.
Are you a Harvard alum, Dr. G?
Oh, I behave!
I've deleted that from my LinkedIn.
I went there for a year and I resent that remark.
I resent that remark.
Give us your comments, John, Chief Engineer.
I mean, that is probably the most horrible thing I've ever seen in my life.
Eric, please help me out.
I have no words.
The West has fallen.
This is Daily Refrain.
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You You
you Welcome, dear friends, to the Manhood Hour here on America First with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist of the 45th and, God willing, if we do our part, the 47th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
You know me.
I travel the nation.
I give lots of speeches.
Most places I go I say just skip the intro thing, no bio, tell them here's the guy with the funny accent from radio who worked in the White House and let's just get on with it.
Especially because I like to get to the Q&A and take questions from from those who are in the audience.
However, If I had a bio like this, I may make it mandatory for all my hosts to read it in every syllable.
I'm just gonna give a little extract of our guests... Well, it's not a background, it's like, um...
Like a character from a Tom Clancy novel.
Our guest joined the British Army the day after he left school and spent the next 30 years in some of the world's most notorious trouble spots, including eight tours of duty in Northern Ireland, where he was wounded in a multiple terrorist mortar attack in South Armagh.
He was appointed member of the Order of the British Empire by Queen Elizabeth II for his work in military intelligence in Northern Ireland in 1993.
He took part in the invasion of Iraq in a Challenger tank in 1991 with the legendary Desert Rats.
He was sent to Kabul in 2003 to take command of the British forces in Afghanistan, where he created a very unusual transatlantic, what should we call it, task force with our devil dogs, the U.S.
Marines.
And if that weren't enough, he ended up as counterterrorism advisor to the Macedonian head of state.
Additionally, he was a member of COBRA, the Cabinet Office Briefing Room, which is the kind of highest-level sit-room emergency management committee of the UK government, where he chaired the COBRA intelligence group.
He was appointed Commander of the Order of the British Empire for his work in national security.
I'm going to just stop there because I'm going to run out of time.
We are honored to have him with us on the show today.
He is a freedom fighter for our civilization.
Colonel Richard Kemp, welcome to the Manhood Hour.
Thanks, it's a great pleasure.
I don't believe all you just read out, and I'd like to say I don't believe you've got a strange accent at all.
It's perfectly normal.
Thank you.
I sometimes worry that after, you know, 16 years here in America, the received pronunciation from Ealing, from West London, is getting a little bit twangy and a little bit American.
But if I survive the next hour without getting a raised eyebrow from you, then I'll be fine.
Colonel Kemp, I think we had you on the show several years ago.
I've been following your work with Great interest over the years.
You have a reputation for speaking the truth, you know, and damn what happens after that.
I'm going to start simply with the biggest question.
How much danger is our civilization in?
I think it's in very, very deadly peril.
And it's not just about the immediate threats that we face, like, for example, the threat from Putin Which although is focused and directed mainly on Ukraine at the moment has the potential to spread more widely and also of course does through what you might call grey warfare does also focus on us as a threat from Iran which is engulfing Israel at the moment in a war on multiple fronts.
And, of course, the threat from China, which goes beyond some of the trade activities of China, but also includes, I think, surreptitiously doing its best to undermine our society through espionage and through subversion, which is extremely widespread.
So those are known and identified threats.
I'm not saying we're facing them absolutely as we should, but I think the greatest threat probably comes from within.
And that is a threat to the very fabric of our culture and our societies.
And I just like to, you know, I'm a very old man now, but I can remember even when I was at school back in the 1970s, we were taught to hate our country by our teachers.
And I went to a pretty good school.
It was a state school, but it was a decent school.
And even in that school, we were taught there's not not much to be proud about slavery, empire, all of these things.
And we were taught to, to, you know, to criticize and to, to despise our country.
And that's all those years ago.
Think about the generations since then have been educated in that way, and how much worse it's all got.
And we see We see that, you know, just in recent days and weeks, we've seen the product of this attack on our society and universities in the United States, in Great Britain and on the streets of our country, where there are these protests allegedly supporting the Palestinians.
But actually, I think if you scratch very deep on the surface of most of the protesters, most of these people in their encampments, you find not only a hatred for Israel, but a hatred probably for the United States and the UK as well.
What is, to use the military term, the center of gravity of that assault that is from within?
Do we just put it down to the professors, the colleges?
Is it a political party?
Is it malefactors from the outside, such as China?
Or is it just the fact that the left outmaneuvered the patriots over the last 50 years?
Yeah, I think it goes well beyond the university professors.
And if you just take... I believe the origins of this whole sickness that we face today do come from the Soviet Union, as so much do.
The Soviet Union is responsible for creating the current propaganda campaign against Israel.
It's responsible for corrupting our education systems.
And I don't say that they've directly done that, but they've certainly had a really malign influence on Schools and universities.
And that's been, I think, taken up by China as well nowadays.
China wasn't involved particularly in the early stages, but they are now.
And effectively, this malaise has captured very, very much of our society.
Speaking about here in the UK, I think what happens in the UK and the US very often reflect one another.
More often than not, the UK follows what happens in the US, but sometimes it's the other way around.
You can look at pretty much the whole of society and see how it's been gripped by this sickness, this essentially left-wing anti British illness that exists today, and that includes in our government institutions as well.
And I think what I find very, very discouraging is that we here in Britain, we have had 14 years of so called conservative government.
And the state we're in after 14 years of supposed conservatism is absolutely dire.
In so many different ways, wokeism has taken control.
And the problem is that we're about to have a general election here in the UK, which will probably be about the same time as the general election in the United States.
And the ground has been prepared by the Conservative Party of all people for A Labour Party that is essentially Corbyn's Labour Party.
It's no different to the days when Corbyn ran it.
It's got different colour paint now and a pretense that it's shed all of its Corbynite agendas.
But it hasn't really.
I think, you know, we have seen a degree of moderation.
And again, going back to the Israel thing, because I think Israel is quite a significant indicator, at least, of what's happening elsewhere.
We've seen a degree of moderation of their policies towards Israel and other issues, other related issues.
But it's all about electioneering.
And I think when the Labour Party get into power, assuming they do, which is looking very likely, then they've already got some pretty rich, fertile terrain sowed by the Conservatives to make things hugely worse than they are now.
And I think they will do so.
But I find it disturbing that you say this is a general phenomena and not just one of the urban elites.
I look at Brexit as an instantiation that, you know, the British bulldog spirit and the concept of national sovereignty is still there.
Are you saying that the woke aristas are winning?
I think they're certainly winning in the media, and that includes the social media, which has dominated both mainstream media organisations like the BBC, Sky News, other mainstream broadcasting organisations, and many newspapers are dominated by the wokest.
And they speak with the loudest voices.
I would guess It's very difficult to assess it properly.
I would guess the majority of ordinary, decent British people do not share that agenda.
But it's very, very hard for people who are not woke to come out against the woke and to speak out, for example, against This whole transgender business and against the D.I.E.
and all of the other devices that have been inflicted upon us.
It's very hard to come up out against that without being really severely hit by from all quarters by social media.
And indeed, you know, even people can find their employment cancelled.
So I think if they The silent majority probably have sort of more traditional British values, but dare not express them.
And there is a risk, I think, of all of that dying out as a consequence of this almost total suppression of those values and speaking of those values.
And, for example, There was one of the potential leaders of the Scottish Nationalist Party in Scotland, obviously, who was a leadership candidate a year or so ago, who spoke about her religious values and was almost automatically cancelled as a result of that.
No one would have a party leader in this country who spoke openly about Religious values or old-fashioned traditional British standards.
We're talking to the author of Attack State Red, Colonel Richard Kemp, British Army retired.
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I mentioned President Trump at the end of the first segment, Colonel.
You wrote a piece in The Telegraph just last week that a former cabinet member of the Trump administration brought to my attention on the show last week, Secretary Wilkie.
It has a rather provocative title.
Well, not really provocative if you live in the real world.
Donald Trump has saved NATO and the West.
Could you unpack why, what, in prior eras would have been deemed just straight-talking leadership is so needed today and and why that statement is deemed so provocative when in fact it's just a statement of empirical truth yeah well I think leadership is one of the things that we are sorely lacking in the West today
And I quite often go to America and I speak at a range of events in the United States.
And very often I get questioned about the current state of Britain and Britain's failure in so many ways to stand up for itself and stand up against the tyrannies like Iran and Russia and other countries.
And they always, always quote, you know, look what Britain did in 1939, 1940.
Britain stood alone against Nazis.
And why aren't you standing up now against these threats that you face?
And my answer to that is I don't think Britain did stand alone.
I think it was Winston Churchill who stood alone.
He was hugely, he was hugely opposed by the majority of people in his cabinet.
Well and for a decade he lived in the wilderness and he was laughed at when he said watch out for that Austrian corporal with the funny moustache.
He did, he did and I think had it not been for his insight and his judgment and his willpower, then Britain
would have made an accommodation with the Nazis back in 1939, 1940.
And so it came down in that case, I think, almost entirely to one man saving the West.
OK, I'm not suggesting for a moment Britain alone saved the West.
Of course, we had the British Empire fighting on our side.
We had the United States obviously made a huge difference when they came in in 1941.
And we couldn't have won that war without the United States.
And of course, Russia itself, the Soviet Union, although it sided initially with the Nazis and helped the Nazis into power and helped arm the Nazis, eventually came onto the right side after it got attacked.
But I think the pivot of the whole thing was Winston Churchill and that degree of leadership that That we were fortunate enough to see from Churchill.
And it just isn't around in this country, certainly today.
I mean, there are some fairly capable politicians, but I don't identify from any party a political leader who could come anywhere near filling Winston Churchill's shoes.
And we haven't seen anything really like it since Margaret Thatcher.
We could do with Thatcher again today, perhaps.
In the United States, I think Donald Trump He played a significant role in the article that I wrote that you quoted just now.
He berated European countries for being freeloaders on the United States, for not being willing to resource their own defences and being dependent on US money.
And Trump, previous presidents had also made criticisms, but they hadn't been really as blunt as Donald Trump was.
And it took that to wake the Europeans up.
And I think it had some effect.
And we've seen increases in defense expenditure among European countries ever since Trump became president.
I think we need him.
I would say that the United States needs him now.
He needs to not just to lead the United States, but to lead the world in a period which is getting You know, you don't need me to tell you, this is getting increasingly dangerous with all those different threats I mentioned before.
And as someone who's served in uniform in the Middle East, in the Balkans, in Northern Ireland, what do you say to those on your side of the pond and here who say, oh my gosh, we can't have him back.
He's a warmonger.
He's going to destabilize the planet.
Well, whatever anyone thinks of Trump, On a personal basis, and I really am not an expert on US domestic politics, but I believe that the world was a lot safer when Donald Trump was the President of the United States.
No new wars were started by him.
He carried out some pretty significant punitive action when he thought it was necessary.
For example, killing Qasem Soleimani, who was plotting against the US and its allies.
But I think his unpredictability, if nothing else, and his volatility deterred people like Putin and Xi and indeed the ayatollahs in Iran from the level of aggression that we've seen since President Biden took office.
And I think you can attribute a very large amount of instability in the world today directly to the door of President Biden.
And to a large extent, it started When he...
Carried out that absolutely extraordinarily awful operation to withdraw U.S.
forces and NATO forces from Afghanistan.
A real disaster for U.S.
foreign policy.
One of the most disastrous decisions I think I've seen or heard about in recent years.
And that was a green light to Putin.
Putin invaded Ukraine during Obama's presidency.
He invaded it during Biden's presidency.
He left it alone.
During Trump's presidency.
And I think he would have probably not invaded Ukraine if Trump had been in the White House.
Yeah.
Putin saw what Biden was like after the withdrawal from Afghanistan and decided to chance his arm.
And I think the same is true, probably, of the war we're seeing now in the Middle East, which is obviously directed and funded and financed and coordinated by Iran.
And I think the Ayatollahs also, they saw weakness.
They saw years of Biden appeasing them, of giving them billions of dollars in unfrozen assets, of releasing hostages in exchange for vast amounts of money.
And, you know, turning a blind eye to so many of the evils that they've been carrying out, including direct attacks against US forces with very, very minimal responses, when actually a very, very heavy response was called for.
And I think all of that, his weakness and his unpredictability, has contributed to this situation.
And actually, one of the countries that is most concerned, I think, about the United
States, not just Israel—Israel, of course, is concerned about the extent of U.S. support—but
Saudi Arabia.
He vilified Saudi Arabia from the moment he took office.
He delisted the Houthis from their terrorist status, thereby encouraging Houthi attacks
that we're seeing now in the Red Sea and encouraging Iran to greater and greater aggression.
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Alright, before we get a little bit more philosophical, we talk about what manhood or masculinity
means to you, Colonel Kemp.
I've got a little biased question I need to ask you.
Not sure all of my listeners will be fascinated, but maybe they will.
I spent a few years as an interrogator in the British Territorial Army in the Intelligence Corps.
And I worry... I loved my time.
My few years as a, you know, weekend warrior in the British Army.
I absolutely loved it.
Surrounded by utter, complete eccentrics.
Especially the Army Air Corps.
You guys, you're lunatics, but I love the way you fly.
I'm really distressed by what I hear about the downsizing of the army, its capabilities.
Can you tell me a little bit of what it's really like?
Is it as bad as I fear?
Well, I think there are two, maybe three major issues that I ought to mention here.
One is the size of the armed forces in manpower in ships, in tanks, in planes, artillery and tanks.
All of these things have been really very, very badly scaled back by successive governments
over many decades.
To the extent now, we've got a pretty comprehensive defense force, which covers most of the bases
from counterinsurgency right the way through to the kind of conventional operations that
we see today in Ukraine, high intensity operations.
But we are very, very thinly spread in all of the capabilities we need.
And one of the issues that people very often focus on is recruiting.
They can't get enough recruits to fill even the British Army today, which is a minuscule strength of around about 70,000 only.
When I first joined, it was more than 150,000.
But it's been successively written down.
But there is, in fact, no shortage of recruits.
There's plenty of young men and women who are still patriotic in this country, who still want to serve their country, who would like to join the armed forces, but are prevented from doing so by a sclerotic recruiting system, which seems to me to be designed to prevent people from joining the armed forces.
And the reason for that is, again, cost cutting Instead of, when you try and join the army, instead of going to see somebody who has served in the army and can allay perhaps your concerns about military life, because it is a completely different world from anything else, as you well know, you get a machine or you get a civilian who's never, doesn't really even know what the army is.
And then you get all sorts of obstacles thrown in your way.
And then you get a government who throws their hands up because they can't recruit and say, well, we better cut the army even further then.
So that's just one of the symptoms.
But the other major issue I've got, I think, with the armed forces today is that an increasing over-reliance on technology.
There's an idea that you can get rid of infantry soldiers and replace them with cameras or drones or other technological solutions.
Which is simply not true, and we've seen how that doesn't work in the invasion of Israel from Gaza recently.
That was a classic example of how you cannot rely on technology, which the Israelis did.
You've got the same in Ukraine.
I was in Ukraine myself a few months ago, and I saw the frontline fighting there, which was, you know, you could have seen the same thing in the Second World War, possibly even The First World War.
But in Britain, I fear that part of the reason we've cut our manpower is because we think technology will substitute.
The reality is you need both.
You need up-to-date modern technology, but you also need hard military fighting power.
And I'm afraid that we're very much lacking in the latter area.
I'm very pleased to say that the British government recently announced A significant uplift to the British defence budget to I think 2.5% of GDP, which is not enough, but at least it's a start.
And I think again, that uplift was prompted To a very large extent by the likelihood that President Trump will come into the White House in January, or the possibility of him coming to the White House in January.
And we need to be in the right place as far as he's concerned.
Better get ready for the return because he's going to be asking all NATO members if they're doing their part.
It's up to us to get him re-elected.
But yeah, he doesn't want any more freeloaders inside of the alliance.
We're talking to Colonel Richard Kemp, The British Army retired.
The website is Richard-Kemp.com.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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Ideally, it should be one's father, but not everybody is so lucky.
Sometimes it's a teacher at school, it's a favourite uncle.
When you were finding your way in the world as a young man, who was your role model and what were the values that you looked up to when you said, I want to be like that grown-up man?
I think I'll take your first answer, which is my father.
Who was a very powerful figure.
Unfortunately, he died very young, but he probably had greater influence on me than anybody else ever has.
A military man?
He served for a couple of years at the end of the Second World War as a National Service soldier, but he wasn't a professional military man.
He was actually a master mariner, a ship's captain.
But he had very, very strong Values.
And those values, I think, he was relatively, well, relatively religious.
He was certainly a religious believer.
He didn't attempt to thrust religious values down our throats, but he certainly knew right from wrong and taught all of them, me and my brothers and sisters, the difference between right and wrong.
And how to stand up for ourselves.
And I think one of the most outstanding things that I can recall from him and the lessons that I learned from him was when he told me that if everyone else is going in that direction, then your best bet is to go in the other direction.
In other words, don't follow the crowd.
Don't be taken in by what the herd says.
Think for yourself.
Act with your own instincts.
And that, I think, you know, maybe other people might say I'm wrong, but I think that has served me extremely well for most of my life.
And the other person who was a... This may not fit into your manhood, Al, but the other person who was a very strong role model for me was my mother, who was...
Also, a very tough woman, very self-sufficient, wouldn't take any nonsense from anybody, and certainly wouldn't tolerate all of this feminism, feminist, whatever the right word is, feminist, the feminist movements of today.
She was very definitely a woman, but she was a woman who knew her own mind and didn't attempt to take refuge in any cults or any of these mass movements that people seem to want to hide behind today.
And what are the adjectives that best describe what your father and your mother represented to you, Colonel?
You've put me on the spot slightly there.
I'm not sure what an adjective is.
I wasn't very well educated.
Descriptive.
Descriptive words.
Thank you.
Thank you for your late education that I've received.
I did actually go to a grammar school, although I didn't learn much grammar because when I was at school, it was unfashionable to learn Grammar by rote.
You had to learn by reading and copying what was read, stuff like that.
But anyway, yeah, I think I would say that they were honest, decent, upstanding people, both of them, not afraid to stand their own ground and not afraid to To, you know, to do the right thing irrespective of what anybody else said, thought, or did.
And I think, you know, my father, as well as telling me to go in the opposite direction from everybody else, which sometimes has been problematic, he also said, don't take any notice of what anybody else says or thinks about you.
It's not important what other people think about you.
It's important What you think about what you think is the right thing to do and then do it irrespective.
I just I just heard this in social media is mostly a curse but I am like most addicted to it and I just heard somebody say the following.
I'm sorry if it's if this is you who said it because I can't remember who it was.
You should definitely not care a fig about the views of people who you'd never ask advice from and I think that's a very very good Very good piece of advice on how to live your life.
And I must say, you have lived up to your father's advice to cut your own path in life.
If you look at where we are today, Colonel, where masculinity is deemed toxic as a conventional wisdom, If you were writing a curriculum for young boys, what kinds of things would you put on the curriculum as what they have to learn to master in order to push back on today's assault on classical values?
Well, I think one of the things has to be history.
That has to be very strong in the curriculum, but not the kind of history that is taught so often today.
I think, you know, there are so many examples from history that I certainly read as a young boy.
And it wasn't what I was taught at my school, because the school would have disapproved, I think, to a large extent of some of these things.
But the examples set by Warriors of past days and I'm not talking even in the in the ancient past but if you look at some of the extraordinary feats of military people over the decades including right up to date I mean I'm talking you know even there are some incredible feats by some very young men and women in some cases in Afghanistan and Iraq in recent years and studying them I think it would be one of the best ways for young men to
to get inspiration.
I do think one of the things I believe, there are two words that I hate probably above all others, when they're when they're together.
And those are the words safe space.
And I hear so I speak a lot to young people in high schools and universities in the United States and the UK.
And I'm always hearing the words I feel unsafe.
I'm hoping not from things I've said to them, but maybe.
But I feel unsafe.
What is this obsession with safety?
I actually quite like being in danger.
One of my, I think one of the proudest occurrences in my life was when my name was found a few years ago on an Al-Qaeda kill list.
I took enormous pride in that, mainly because I'm not trying to pretend I'm a very brave person, but I took great pride in it because it showed me that I've been annoying the wrong people.
No, that's super funny.
That reminds me as a kind of career moment for me.
You know, you can get all the gongs and all the nice commendations, but when I was informed that I had turned up, an interview with me in my days in counterterrorism had turned up in one of Zawahiri's propaganda videos, I thought, oh, I think I've made it.
I can think I can cross that one off the list.
So I think we have that in common.
You can throw away all the medals and take that as a real badge of honour.
Also, I managed to, I'm not going to bore on about that, but I managed to incur the wrath of one Gerry Adams, who I'm sure you know.
Oh yes, the front man for the provisional IRA.
If you pissed him off, you're a very decent chap by definition.
Exactly.
And, you know, if I speak at schools and universities, not so much high schools, but universities, I'm actually very disappointed if I don't get a significant protest against me being there.
The largest protest I ever had was at the University of Sydney.
But it's pretty tame if you don't get a significant number of people putting up to protest your presence.
But I just do not feel that it's right for young people to be I'm told that they've always got to be safe.
If a president they don't like gets elected, they have to go and sit in the crying room for a few hours.
It's very, very unhealthy.
And it's also linked to what I consider to be the modern day obsession with mental health.
And I'm sure there are many people who genuinely suffer from mental health, but it's also now the fashionable thing.
It's fashionable to have PTSD.
And the reality is that very few, I'm speaking more about soldiers, very few soldiers actually do genuinely suffer from PTSD.
They're made of sterner stuff than that.
And I think, you know, in my experience, I left the army a number of years ago now, but although we were constantly being told when I was serving that young people have today are not anything like as strong as the young people of the Second World War or whatever.
I found that to be completely untrue.
All of the young people that I served with, not one of them ever let me down.
They let me down in many ways, including getting drunk when they shouldn't have done and getting into fights when they shouldn't have done.
But not one of them ever let me down in terms of courage and resilience.
And the willingness and the absolute determination to not let their fellows down.
And I think that still exists today.
I don't think society has changed much, except that it lacks the leadership and the robust leadership to bring that out of people and to encourage people to do it.
And the last thing you need is people worrying all the time about safe spaces.
Yeah.
We're talking to the author of Attack State, Red Colonel Richard Kemp.
His website is Richard-Kemp.com.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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Okay, come in with the latte lady.
First of all, we're saying that they're obligated to provide food to students who pay for a meal plan here.
But you mentioned that there was a request that food and water be brought in.
To allow it to be brought in, I mean, well, I guess it's ultimately a question of what kind of community and obligation Columbia feels it has to its students.
Do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation or get severely ill, even if they disagree with you?
If the answer is no, then you should allow basic... I mean, it's crazy to say because we're on an Ivy League campus, but this is like basic humanitarian aid we're asking for.
Like, could people please have a glass of water?
That's one of the pro-Hamas protesters, doctoral student Johanna King Slutsky.
I'm not making it up, that's her real name, saying, please deliver us our kale salad and our soy milk lattes, otherwise we can't have our revolution.
Colonel Kemp, in the last few moments we have here on the Manhood Hour, as we fight for and celebrate the civilizational values of the Judeo-Christian world, I mean, that's just hilarious.
That's a Monty Python skit from the 1970s.
Is this absurdity going to collapse in on itself, or do we have to fight even harder than ever?
I think we've got to fight even harder than ever.
I'm sorry to laugh, but that is an absolute absurdity.
My advice to that young lady would be If she wants to stand up for the people of Gaza, although I suspect her interest is more attacking the people of Israel, then perhaps she should go to Gaza and see how she would get on there, how she'd fare there.
I suspect she wouldn't do very well.
She might be wanting a bit more than lattes or kale salad.
But I'm very heartened, actually, as well, to see I've seen some videos in the last day or so of US students, American students, going to these protests and standing up for American values, protecting the American flag.
And Jewish students as well, which is just beautiful to watch.
Yeah, absolutely.
And it's extremely encouraging, and I hope we're going to see more of that against these anti-Americans.
I mean, they say they're pro-Palestinian, but actually they're anti-Americans and anti-Israelis.
And I witnessed a few years ago here in the UK a very large and aggressive anti-Israel demonstration taking place at one of the universities.
And I thought there were no counter-protesters except two, I think, very young men, probably no more than 17, 18, who just went and stood there with holding an Israeli flag up.
And they were turned on by the crowd, and they did not budge.
They stood their ground.
They were not intimidated by these people, although I think many people would have been.
And that's the kind of courage that I think we need to see.
The last thing we need to see is for people to be cowed and intimidated by them.
And of course, the objective of many of these thugs around the universities, on the university, thugs actually is probably too strong a word, because I doubt many would be capable of real thuggery.
But their objective, I think, above all, is to intimidate Jewish students on the university campuses.
That's what they're trying to do, I think, above everything, other objectives.
Because they know that the strongest support for Israel is among Jewish people, Jewish students and Jewish people.
And if they can turn Jews against Israel, that is a huge victory for them.
And they have succeeded in some cases.
And I always, whenever I meet Jewish students, whether at high school or university, I always try and encourage them to stand their ground, not worry about feeling unsafe, as I said before.
Make the other person feel unsafe, perhaps.
And one point I always make to them.
Back in 1941, Winston Churchill spoke at Eton, his old school.
I assume it was your old school as well, Sebastian.
No, no, no.
I was Ealing Abbey, West London, St Benedict's.
A bit superior to Eton.
But he went to speak at his old school and it was suggested to him that we were living in dark days.
This is back in 1941.
When, you know, many people would have considered that dark days, we had suffered huge damage and death and destruction from Nazi bombing raids on London and other cities.
The US hadn't come into the war yet.
We haven't really achieved any major victories by this time.
And he said, we should not think of these as dark days.
We should think of these as stern days.
He said these are great days and we should all feel honored to be able to play our part in standing up and fighting for our country.
Those weren't his words, but something like that.
And that's what I always say to Jewish students in particular, but also non-Jewish students who are faced with This intimidation that it shouldn't be seen as a burden to resist it, it should be seen as an honour.
Yes.
Yes, of course, we don't want these times, they're terrible times, but we're living through them.
And what are we going to do?
Are we going to bow down to it?
Are we going to succumb to it?
Are we going to stand up and be proud of our heritage, of our background, and defend our families and our country and our people and our friends?
You know, there's that great expression, What did you do in the war, Daddy?
There was a cartoon, I think.
Well, I would encourage anybody who might have grandchildren in years to come to be able to stand up with some degree of pride and answer that question about what you did in these stern days.
Well, it's just like Churchill said, oh, you've got enemies?
You should celebrate that fact because that means that you've stood for something in your life.
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