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There's no crime.
And you know, they ought to be very careful about this because the Supreme Court, the appellate court in Albany, just reversed Harvey Weinstein's conviction on the ground that they put in too much information that wasn't really relevant to the case.
And that's what's happening.
There is no crime in Manhattan.
You cannot figure out what the crime is.
That's why they're putting on all this evidence of non-crimes, trying to persuade the jury that catching kill is a crime.
It's not.
Paying hush money is a crime.
It's not.
Putting a corporate statement is a misdemeanor barred by the statute of limitations.
You can't suddenly resurrect that and turn that into a crime by invoking a federal statute, which the federal government refused to invoke, and the Federal Election Commission refused to invoke.
There is no crime.
There is no crime.
Greetings.
Happy Monday, dear friends.
That is, of course, Democrat Harvard Emeritus Law Professor Alan Dershowitz on Maria Bartiromo's show, giving his analysis that there is no there there.
It's fallacious.
It is just election interference.
And of course, he's absolutely right.
Jeff, Maria Bartiromo, she had Jim Jordan on, didn't she?
And rather tough questions for the chairman.
Did that remind you of anything else you've seen recently, Jeff?
I think she saw something recently that inspired this interview.
I think she did.
I think she saw our discussion with Jim Jordan last week.
He is creating a bit of a ruckus across the establishment GOP.
Where are the results, guys?
They're coming after our leader, the leader of the opposition.
What's happening in response?
Who's standing up for President Trump?
Anyone?
Anyone that has any kind of power?
We'll be sharing that clip later in the day.
We will be analyzing that interview with Jim Jordan that was played in part by Steve Bannon on his show as well tomorrow with our one-on-one.
We'll be joined in studio by Robert Wilkie, former cabinet member of the Trump administration, FBI whistleblower Carl Serafin will be with us for our manhood hour, and we'll have my Salem colleague Chris de Gaulle and that brave FBI whistleblower with us at the end of the day as well.
But let me talk about the philosophy of what we have to do in a moment.
First, I have to say thank you to Mark Davis for stepping into the breach and covering for me on Friday.
He did an admirable job.
I managed to listen to some of it as I was traveling.
To Texas, To see something quite remarkable.
3,000 men and women become triathletes.
Not something I could do, but somebody with my name did it.
My son, first time ever, crossing the finish line for his Ironman in Houston.
Just after 14 hours, an Ironman which is what?
which is a 2.4 mile swim, 112 miles on a bicycle, oh and then a marathon at the end, 26.2 miles.
At the end, greeted by his family, his sister, his girlfriend. I'm just stunned at what Paul achieved.
The last photograph is of him a couple of miles into the marathon.
Afterwards, as he was weeping on my shoulder, having finished elated, He realized four miles into the 26 miler, I can't do this.
After 110 miles on the bike, my quads are freezing up.
Literally, the biggest muscle in his leg is refusing to function.
What did he do?
the power of the human spirit. He said, I'm not gonna give up and he ran another
22.2 miles. I salute you. Not something I could ever do but my father, his
grandfather, a great athlete is looking down from heaven and is very proud of
you Paul Gawker, the man after who you are named. It's good to be back in the
studio however, I missed you guys.
So, what do we do if we don't have people who are prepared to do what it takes?
Our good friend, Kurt Schlichter, Colonel K, has a brand new article up at Town Hall.
We'll just read you the headline right now.
Conservatives need to man up and play by the new rules.
Let me read you a couple of sentences from this article.
It's up on my Twitter feed.
It's one of his longer pieces, but just two or three sentences that really should shape the next six months of conservative politics in America.
And then, if God willing, we do our part and the right thing happens, the next four years.
The new rules boil down to one thing.
If you've got power, exercise it to promote your interests over the interests of your enemy.
That's it.
That's the basic rule in 2024.
If you've got power, exercise it in promotion of your values.
We can't just, quote, roll over and sputter about our principles.
Human nature demands retribution.
You do it to us, we're going to do it back to you.
That's the essence of protecting your people.
Now that last line is very important.
That's the essence of protecting your people.
When I was in the White House, I saw good people, my colleagues, my friends, not being protected, being subverted, having their legs cut from under them by people who hated the president but who were inside the building or who were on Capitol Hill and who just didn't believe in MAGA, thought President Trump was some temporary aberration, a blip on the radar screen.
And in the last, well forget the four years of President Trump, that was obvious.
What about the last three and a half plus years?
Who with any power in politics, in the house, in the media, amongst the rich, the billionaire class, who stood up for President Trump?
It's not about the man, it's about the principle of the leader of the opposition facing 730 years in prison.
730 years in prison.
On charges that don't apply, that are beyond the statute of limitations, or weren't crimes, or simply things that are under the federal remit concerning elections, in which the Federal Elections Commission said, Nope.
Nothing wrong occurred.
We're not prosecuting him.
Why aren't they standing up for him?
It's time for those of us who have power or can exert influence on those who do.
To exercise that power.
Because what happens when malefactors, when evil people get away with doing evil and no one challenges them?
They will continue to do it until every decent person is either vanquished or too afraid to live their value system and profess the truth.
Six months to go.
New rules.
Rules for winning.
Rules for retribution.
Rules that will lead to us standing by our team members.
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Diversity, equity and inclusion is bad.
It's a religion.
things about DEI but it's not all you know roses and I think it need we need
to take a look at it and we need to sort of do some rejiggering because it's gone
too far it's become a religion and if you don't abide by the religion
diversity equity and inclusion is bad it's a religion it's gone too far
Alex I heard a ribald laughter from your corner of the production area when we
played that clip earlier Why are you laughing at Don Lemon?
Because I'm wondering why he didn't say that when he was still employed by CNN.
Good point.
Laughter justified.
Thank you, my friend.
First guest of the day, are we connecting to Chris de Gaulle?
Is he available?
He's not in his chair.
Where is that man?
If he's gonna miss our cruise to Atlanta, that ship is gonna sail from Seattle, dude.
We are excited to talk to him, but first things first, let's talk about the cruise!
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All right, while we're waiting for Chris, let's open the lines.
Let's go to Nancy in Philadelphia.
Hi, Dr. G. Yes.
I wonder if you would be interested in the quick research I did about the presidents of some of the major Ivy League schools.
So Harvard, UPenn, Columbia, MIT and NYU.
All those female presidents were appointed from 2022 to 2023 after Biden got in office.
And they are all DEI, radical leftist Woke ideologues.
And not just that, but all their husbands are the same.
They're all married to the same man?
No, they're all married to the same type of person.
Which is what, Nancy?
Also, radical leftist woke ideologues.
And one fun example is the husband of the president of NYU, who was just recently appointed.
He's a law professor at NYU Abu Dhabi.
You know?
Perfect.
And maybe you saw the recently published list of donors to universities with Qatar at the top.
Yes.
3 billion.
Yes, I saw that.
China about half of that.
Yeah.
And then Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait.
Interesting.
Fascinating, especially when I saw the information, Nancy, of the biographical data, the career path of the Egyptian who, for some reason, is the president of Colombia.
Did you see what her qualifications were to become president of Colombia, Nancy?
Oh, of course I did.
I think her main qualification is that she's Muslim and a Muslim sympathizer.
Well, and she has, hang on, one journal article to her credit.
One.
The bulk of which was copied from another co-authored report.
That is President Shafiq's credentials for becoming the president of one of the most erstwhile institutions of academic learning in the world.
No surprise there, correct?
Correct.
Looks like it was all just a big plan, you know, to take over the Ivy League.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Look, look, look.
Why do you have to jump to that?
Why does it have to be a plan?
Well, you know, they were all appointed just recently.
It's odd that every Ivy League... But it's not like they were replacing conservative MAGA presidents, is it?
Well, no, but typically they were replacing men.
Yeah, but this isn't something that occurred with Biden.
This has been going on for decades in America, but you're absolutely right.
Qualification number one, woke women married to woke men.
All right, he's not here on his Skype.
Is he here on phone?
Do we have Chris de Gaulle?
How are you, Seb?
Are you running your Skype account on Steam?
What's... First of all, I gotta talk to you.
You've got to stop with Skype.
It is singularly the worst technology on planet Earth.
Jeff, is he blaming his tools?
What is the problem here?
Do we take Stegall's side?
I agree with Chris on this about Skype.
But you were saying it's because he had an update in his Microsoft.
That's the problem.
There's way too many updates.
That's the problem.
You always have to constantly update it.
That or the Microsoft's gonna be updated.
It's always an issue.
The covered wagon of video calls.
Just drop the garbage and get something fancy, would you please?
Yeah, I'll talk to the big spenders at Salem headquarters.
You'll back me up, right Chris?
How are you, Sam?
Oh, look, he changed subject.
He's changed the subject there very quickly.
Let's talk about why we invited you on the show.
He is the host of the Chris de Gaulle show, AM 990, The Answer.
Also, he is the president of something called the Harumph Society, theharumphsociety.substag.com.
All right, first things first.
I want to talk to you about some news concerning George Soros.
We'll save that for the next segment.
But Chris, Are you ready?
I've selected the cigars for our cigar event on our Patriots Alaska cruise.
I can't believe we're going to get to do that on a five star liner.
You?
Oh, I'm so excited about this.
When I found out, I didn't even know you could do it.
I just assumed that that was verboten on a cruise ship.
And when I found out that they had a deck Where we could smoke cigars.
That was it.
I'm looking more forward to that than the majesty of the glaciers in Alaska.
A cigar with you?
Are you kidding?
We select thanks to Corona Cigars.
Corona Cigars are our sponsor.
If you sign up, this is going to be one of our VIP events on the cruise.
You will get hand-selected by Dr. G and Corona Cigars.
Two superb, two of my favorite smokes, along with Chris.
What are we going to talk about, Chris?
First of all, we're going to talk about how I get a Corona Cigar sponsorship.
That's the first thing.
And followed by, gosh, yeah, where do we start?
There's just so much.
Oh, here's what I know you'll love.
I already know how you feel about this.
What about everybody chattering that Trump and DeSantis are going to be meeting?
And now everybody's got all the vapors that maybe they're chatting about a ticket.
Nope.
Nope.
I know.
No.
Absolutely not.
Look, I have to admit... What if he asked you?
What if he said...
Seb, I'd like to pick DeSantis.
Would you say good move, boss, or no?
I would say what I said on this show for the last, you know, year and a half, that that man has a severe honor deficit.
The idea that a former JAG, who's a military prosecutor, says after the Alvin Bragg indictments are leaked that, oh, I'm not going to get involved.
I'm going to stay with, you know, running the affairs of Florida.
Chris, do you think he knows that Mar-a-Lago is in Florida?
I think so.
I think he does.
Did you see that he took full advantage of the Christy Noem thing?
Here's the other thing.
Hang on, hang on.
Hold that, hold that.
We've got to talk about the Christy Noem thing.
We've got a funny cut.
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I wonder who is second uppermost in the hatred evinced by the left after President Trump.
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We are back with Chris Stegall.
He is our buddy for the cruise, the Patriots Alaska Cruise.
But even before that, We're having a cigar event with you in Philadelphia at the Cigar Republic May 7th.
Is there any room left on that event?
Chris?
I am.
Oh, yeah.
There's a couple of tickets left, but just a couple.
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All right, thank you.
Thanks for having me.
All right, you mentioned Kirstie Noem in the last segment.
I don't have an explanation for this.
I think she's a weirdo.
I think she's like, you know, an Instagram Barbie who just got to be governor.
It's kind of like her ads about why you should bring your businesses to her state just creep me out.
But then she decides to publish a book in which she talks about shooting one of her hunting dogs.
You need to explain that to me, but first let's have the mainstream media, CNN, trying to profit from that comment as well.
Cut nine.
She's trying to, like, I mean, so Donald Trump, you know, famously hates dogs.
He will talk, he'll use the phrase, like, so-and-so should be shot like a dog.
Like, is that, is she trying to, like, appeal directly to him with this aggressive language?
I don't think so.
Is she talking about when President Trump said, we killed Baghdadi like a dog?
Is she trying to, you know, say that you must respect the leader of the ISIS caliphate?
I'm confused.
So help me out on either of these aspects.
Well, yeah, that and I also would just like to add, is it worse that Kristi Noem killed a dog or that Barack Obama in his memoir said he ate one?
Can we get clarification on that?
Oooh, he went there, he went there, he went there.
Alright, first things first.
Why would you publish that in a book?
I don't know why she chose to.
I think it's to establish some sort of farm gal gravitas or something.
But it didn't come off the way.
Because a lot of people don't come from this background.
And the thing is, if you work in an agricultural community, grown up on a farm, everybody understands You do things that you wouldn't in the suburbs.
You don't have to provide all the details.
I mean, I worked on a cow farm.
In my memoir, I'm not going to talk about what it looked like to pull a calf out of the rear end of a cow.
It's just like, you know, if you live on a farm, you know what it's like.
And I don't need the cred of telling people I was a cow herd as a, you know, eight year old.
Right.
I think she is trying to establish the Bon Fides as a tough lady who makes tough decisions and does tough, uncomfortable things.
But it doesn't come off well to people who love dogs, actually.
They think that's just mean and cruel and unusual.
It's not.
I actually understand what she was talking about, but it just doesn't play well.
I don't think it's a deal breaker for her, but you're right.
She's just odd.
There's something kind of odd about her.
Odd lady.
Alright, we've only got a minute left.
I have to ask you, because I keep coming back to this question again and again and again.
This lunacy on the campuses isn't stopping.
It's getting worse.
I don't know if it makes a difference in November.
How big a deal is this for the average American?
Chris, what's your take?
I don't even think young people believe this.
This is so manufactured and so phony.
I know you've seen the clip, the NYU girls or the Columbia girls that came down to NYU, and I don't know why we're here.
Do you know why we're here?
Nobody buys this, including young people.
And the young people that matter are the ones that are working and getting really, really expensive degrees and trying to dig out from under Joe Biden's inflation.
These reprobates.
This is Occupy Wall Street.
This is George Floyd.
This is Black Lives Matter.
It's all that garbage all over again, just in time for the fall.
It's not real.
It's astroturf.
But you don't think it'll be good for conservatives in November?
Oh, I do.
I think it'll motivate us.
What I genuinely worry about is this kind of street agitation.
This is becoming cyclical.
Every election, there's this giant street agitation.
And if things don't turn out the way we hope that it will, and I have a reason to believe that it will, but if they don't, then what happens?
Our side gets picked and things happen, and it's a tinderbox, and the left is very, very good at that.
Yeah, the left are the crazies.
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That sort of trope about don't just talk about the horse race, talk about the stakes.
Right.
And he laid the stakes out, I think, very clearly tonight.
And I think you're exactly right.
He was not afraid to go and lean in a little bit and throw a couple of punches.
And again, just like last year.
Just like he does at the State of the Unions.
He steps up for these big events.
He proves that he is sharp and gets it.
And this isn't some guy who's doddering along.
He understands how big this fight is.
He understands how important the calling of this moment is.
And I think he really did very well tonight.
When you have to have Rick Wilson say, and I think he did really well tonight, that's when the Biden campaign is in trouble.
Jeff, how is it?
Can you imagine being Rick Wilson?
He actually goes on television with a lower third that says co-founder of the Lincoln Project.
Would you try to keep that secret?
You would think.
And by the way too, Rick Wilson also tweets every day that Trump is suffering from dementia.
Oh, well of course he does.
But does he ever tweet about his wife's beer cooler that had the confederate flag that said the south shall rise again?
No, but it'd be a good time for you to tweet that one back out today.
I think I might have to.
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It's the beginning of the week and we have to check in with the man that always brings the exclusives, a real investigative journalist, founder, editor-in-chief of justthenews.com, our good friend, John Solomon.
Happy Monday, John!
Happy Monday, Seb.
Good to be with you.
Now, you're always uncovering the latest corruption in the swamp.
Now it's something just straight out of SNL or Monty Python.
This is the story you sent me just about half an hour ago from justinews.com.
Feds warn employers can be punished For failing to use preferred transgender pronouns restrooms.
What's going on here, John?
The EEOC, which we formed many decades ago to fight true racial discrimination, true sexual discrimination, has elevated transgender identity to a protected class and now told workplaces that if you don't use a transgender worker's preferred pronouns or don't allow them to use the restroom of their choice, You will be guilty under the EEOC's interpretation of harassment and face potential penalty.
These new regulations just came out today.
The Commission's a five-member Commission the three Democrats pushed it through the two Republicans opposed it But this will become the de facto law of the land at least in the beginning until it gets into the court system But employers now are going to have to watch their pronouns and yield their bathrooms to the whims of transgender employees and the genesis of this was a Supreme Court ruling back in 2020 where the court the justices ruled that if a Someone's transgender identity was the only reason that you discriminate against someone or you didn't give them a job.
Meaning you didn't weigh any other factors.
It was just because they were transgender that that would be discrimination.
Now we've gone from that to the Biden administration imposing these extraordinarily
sweeping accommodations to accommodate someone's temporary or permanent gender
wishes.
And I think that that is going to be a big burden on business,
a big business and small business job creators network just a few minutes ago
calling this an extraordinary overreach that will be harmful to business.
This is a big moment and it's that transgender ideology that Biden and the Democrats have been
pushing since they got in office.
This is the latest and perhaps most serious manifestation now.
There's going to be pronoun polices at the EEOC now watching every company in America.
I find it so curious, maybe you have a theory.
I mean, with what we're witnessing 24-7, On the college campuses, the pro-Hamas demonstrations, the fact that the border crisis, even Democrats, Senators and politicians are admitting this is a crisis.
It seems six months out from an election, not the wisest political move for federal government.
Do you understand why they would do this?
Listen, one possibility is that they see the polling, like the CNN poll this weekend, and realize that Joe Biden might not be in much longer.
So let's get all of our wish lists, our liberal wish lists out there.
That's one possibility.
Listen, Joe Biden's talking about tax cuts in the election year.
What presidential candidate says, hey, let's raise, I'm sorry, tax increases.
Let's raise taxes in an election year.
That used to be taboo, but he's doing that.
He's imposing these things.
I think most Americans, and you see it in this polling data, particularly the CNN poll this weekend, but in all the polls that have come out in the last month, Americans feel like this country doesn't feel like America right now.
They don't think it's appropriate that women should have to be forced to undress in front of men in the locker room.
They don't feel it's appropriate that the border be open and criminals and terrorists come across the border.
They don't think it's appropriate that food and gas and prices have gone up 10, 20, 30 percent on Joe Biden's watch and housing has become almost completely unaffordable.
It's why Joe Biden is now the lowest rated President in modern American history.
Since we did modern polling, he even goes below Nixon Carter in the lowest polling rating at this point in his presidency.
There's a reason for it.
Americans don't recognize this country that Joe Biden is trying to impose on them.
We're talking to John Solomon.
Follow him right now at JSolomonReports.
We've got a minute left with you, John.
We're kind of not excited with representation on Capitol Hill on an average day.
However, there might be some good news coming from at least one congressman.
Yeah, listen, Andy Biggs has always been a fighter, and he wants to take this weaponization committee, which hasn't done a whole lot.
There's been some revelations, but a lot.
He wants to take it in an area where I think it's important focus.
Why are we now criminalizing things that used to be free speech protected?
The over-criminalization of normal behavior in America.
It's going to be a very powerful hearing this Wednesday.
Keep an eye on it.
It's an issue that hasn't really gotten its thought leadership.
I think Congressman Biggs is going to give it a very important hearing.
We're outlawing speech and protesting and things that just a few years ago would have been lawful.
Why are we doing that?
I think the answer is because once you have the laws in the books, you can weaponize it against your enemies.
He's going to show the link on Wednesday.
All right, I think we have to get Congressman Biggs back on the show.
Thank you for the heads up.
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What's your role?
Where can you begin to help save the republic?
Well, how about this idea?
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Okay, title for Solomon.
Um, um, um, um, um.
Yeah.
Is it because the left knows they're gonna lose?
Mm-hmm.
You can blow.
That's what I'm gonna lose.
They can't replace Biden though.
They know it's... A, it's too late.
B, they know Kamala's worse.
Can you get B-roll, I don't care if it's this year or last year, for the A-block from the White House Correspondents' Annual Dinner?
Guy, can you find some of that?
Annual Dinner.
The one they had last night, but it doesn't have to be last night.
It was Saturday, wasn't it?
Yeah.
But I don't care what year it is.
No.
I don't care.
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Let's go to George in Columbus, Ohio.
Thank you for taking the call, Dr. Gordon.
Yeah.
You've got a very bad connection.
Are you mobile or are you static?
It's almost every time I call you.
Can you hear me better now?
Yeah, go ahead.
Okay.
I have an idea that I'd like to run by you, but I also have a t-shirt idea.
Okay, be quick, we've got lots of callers.
Okay, so, I wonder if my idea is too provocative.
I know that you were able to see the October 7th videos.
Yeah.
I wondered if you thought that that was a good idea for punishment for some of these students trying to sit through the horror.
How do you force people to watch something?
I don't know, to go back to school.
How do you force them?
You can't peel their eyelids back.
You can't.
You're right.
Right.
OK.
T-shirt question?
T-shirt idea?
T-shirt idea.
It's a good one.
Trump's sore spangles, and right under it, in captions, if this shirt upsets you, then you suffer from Trump Deranged Syndrome.
You should seek help.
I like that.
Nice one, George.
Let's stay on the topic.
Don, Los Angeles.
Dr. G, Rolling Thunder.
Cow herd extraordinary.
Incredible.
You gotta love it.
There was one cow that had bad hips that walked very, very slowly.
I remember that.
She was at the back of the herd.
But anyway, carry on.
You got a minute and a half.
Did you get a chance to see any of those obscure Yul Brynner movies by any chance?
No, no, not yet.
I've been traveling far too much, but they are on my list, my friend.
Oh, great.
And real quick on the protest, Dr. G, if these protesters were wearing the Totenkopf, the SS Deathshead of Africa, or the Seagroons, people would get it.
You know, how do we not get that the keffiyeh, that's what Yasser Arafat made famous, and the yellow Hamas headband?
Very stylish.
You know, these people, man, their feet take hold on hell, that's all I can say.
Their feet take hold on hell.
I haven't heard that before.
Did you come up with that?
No, that's from the Old Testament.
Their feet take hold on hell.
Their feet take hold on hell.
Where in the Old Testament?
I can't quote the chapter and verse doggone it.
I'm ashamed of myself.
I will look that up.
Hang on.
Their feet take hold.
What?
Oh, hang on.
What is that, Alex?
Proverbs 5.5.
He just knows that by heart because he's such a good board op.
Thank you.
Thank you, Alex.
Proverbs 5.5.
Don't go anywhere.
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I will get back to your calls momentarily, but I think a mini-monologue is in order, because why are there so few people out there in the cultural space who just tell the truth about what's going on in the culture?
My wife, so we had this long weekend away.
With our son, with our daughter, to see him race the Ironman first time ever, and he did it.
14 hours, absolutely mind-blowing.
2-mile swim, 110, 112-mile bicycle ride, and then a marathon on top of it.
And we get home last night, and she says, OK, let's just try and watch something on Netflix.
And she chose this thing called Baby... What's it called?
Baby Reindeer or something.
Meant to be like a comedy show.
The characters in this, anybody, any of you guys seen this thing, Baby Reindeer, anybody out there in my team?
I saw it promoted on Netflix while I was scrolling over the weekend, but I have not watched it, no.
Don't.
It's based on a true story, allegedly.
about a complete loser of a stand-up comic not funny guy who survives by being a bartender and then this morbidly obese and I mean she in real life has got to be 300 pounds a morbidly obese stalker gloms on to him and she's been arrested and convicted before of stalking and whilst he's trying to get out from under her this loser he falls in love with have a guess Jeff he falls in love with a
What do you think?
Transgender?
Yes!
Yes!
You could have written it!
So this is the latest, hottest thing from Netflix.
We're 20 minutes into it.
What's it about?
This is modern culture, okay?
For Hollywood, for the left.
It's about a man who's a loser.
Can't be a hero, can't be cool.
He's a loser.
Who is being targeted by a woman who's 400 pounds in weight and then he falls in love With a tranny.
Is that politically correct, Eric?
Can I say tranny?
Is that what she is?
They hate that word, and for all that reason and so much more, we should use that word as often as possible.
Okay, so I'm going to say tranny.
Who, by the way, allegedly the actress, and I think that means she's a tranny if he is using the actress.
This is what her bio says.
This woman, no, this man, God, this is so confusing.
This man who pretends she's a woman Her name is Nava, N-A-V-A, and her bio, as an actress, says, worked in the fields of healing justice and culture change with community-based service providers and student organizations.
I mean, that could be interchanged with Lauren Bacall, Bette Davis, Marilyn Monroe.
I mean, the greats, right?
Nava worked in the fields of healing justice and culture change with community-based service providers and student organizations.
You're a man pretending to be a woman.
Okay, so that's the hottest thing from Netflix.
Which leads me to the guy who is telling the truth about the culture.
I don't think he's a Trump supporter.
I don't think Jerry Seinfeld is a Trump supporter.
Now, Eric, this is, what, from the New Yorker or New York Magazine?
What's the podcast?
New Yorker, which also did this interview in long form, a long interview, and I've been reading bits and pieces of it today.
It's a very good interview, actually, beyond this one clip we're about to play.
Right, and that's an incredibly left-wing magazine, and he's just had it.
What does he say about Hollywood and how wokeism has killed comedy?
This is, you know, the guy from the show about nothing, Seinfeld, cut seven.
It used to be you would go home at the end of the day, most people would go, Oh, Cheers is on.
Oh, Mash is on.
Oh, Mary Tyler Moore is on.
All the family's on.
You just expected, there'll be some funny stuff we can watch on TV tonight.
Well guess what?
Where is it?
This is the result of the extreme left and PC crap and people worrying so much about offending other people.
When you write a script and it goes into four or five different hands, committees, groups, here's our thought about this joke, well that's the end of your comedy.
Piece of crap.
You come home after a long weekend away and you switch on the streaming service and it's a loser, a fat woman and a tranny.
Yeah.
Okay.
Which leads me to an aspect of the culture, which is the media.
There is something every year called the White House Correspondents' Annual Dinner.
It's a gala.
Everybody's squeezed in there like sardines.
And Jeff, I need your take here.
Alex, I'll take your take as well.
I'm seeing friends of mine, conservatives, leading figures of the conservative media universe, Who are posting pictures of themselves at last night's White House Correspondents Association dinner with Biden.
Now, I don't know about anyone else, as a conservative broadcaster, you couldn't put a gun to my head and get me to go to that.
Jeff, would you go if you had an invitation to hear Biden speak?
I could not go to that whole event just because it's so boring.
To me, that would be so painful to have to sit there and listen to the people that think they're so important, that they're so heroic, and then listen to the stupid jokes.
I just couldn't do it.
Okay, as the man that plays us the coolest tunes, Alex, would you go, as a media professional, to the Biden White House Correspondents Association dinner?
You couldn't pay me to go.
Bingo!
So what the hell are you doing?
People I know, people whose cell phone numbers I've got, posting photographs online, on Instagram, on Twitter, about you going to the... Seriously, do you not understand what those people want?
They want to destroy you and everything you stand for.
Can you just wake up and get with the program and stop trying to get them to say nice things about you?
Wake up!
Let's go to Jake in Pittsburgh.
Thank you for waiting, Jake.
Dr. G, thank you.
As we've done for 20 years or so, me and the family hand out pro-life voter's guides outside of our Catholic church.
Good!
Well, yeah, I thought it was good until the deacon came out and told our daughter that she couldn't do that.
And then the pastor came out and told us we couldn't do that.
Why?
What did he say?
Why couldn't you do that?
Well, in a phone call after that, didn't want to have a row at church.
So in a phone call after that, he said, well, this has been handed down by word of mouth for years and years that we don't do that.
And I said, why?
And he said, well, it's the state tells us.
And I said, you mean the state of Pennsylvania?
And he said, yes, it's a state law.
I said, well, pastor, if you could please Just get me a copy of that, send me somewhere in the direction where the state of Pennsylvania says that I can't do this, because... And?
Did he?
He has not answered yet.
Alright, here are my recommendations to you, Jake.
Continue doing it.
Continue doing it, or find another church.
Because that Catholic pastor is no pastor.
Waiting super patiently since the last hour in Los Angeles, our buddy Brent.
Brent, happy Monday.
A blessed and liberating Passover, Great Gorka!
Thank you kindly.
What would you wish to wax lyrical about?
Well, first I wanted to give a Maga Attaboy to Iron Man Gorka Jr.
That's outstanding.
Thank you.
And yesterday, during the closing days of Passover, I revoltingly returned to my monstrous alma mater, UCLA, to stand against UCLA's proud promotion and protection of Governor Newsom's and Los Angeles Marxist Mayor Bass's Nazi Jihadis, diversely, inclusively, and equitably encouraged to conquer California's campuses as Mohammed commands.
Thank God, there were about 2,000 beautiful, blessed Jewish and Christian protesters standing against about 200 mostly vicious and violent Soros jihadis.
A half century ago, when I graduated UCLA, they never plotted to murder me and every Jew during Passover.
The only Jewish consolation is that Jewkiller Joe didn't declare our Passover to be his trans week of misogyny, as he demonically desecrated your blessed Easter.
And also, I wanted to extend my heartfelt thanks to the LAPD, who righteously and professionally protected us from UCLA's Nazis, So, you outnumbered the jihadis 10 to 1, Brent?
That's how it looked to me.
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I wasn't ready for that, guys!
Can't you wait till I'm ready?
What do you think this is, like, live radio?
I was sending stuff to... I think that's the second time in five years when I wasn't watching the clock on radio.
But that's why we love... I mean, radio is... It's not television, which means it's not stilted.
I'm sorry, television is stilted, right?
Radio is live, and you're in a relationship with the listener.
And why?
Thanks to Larry, my buddy, Larry O'Connor.
Why is radio different?
Not just because it's live and natural and you've got to roll with the punches, but because you're listening to me in the most intimate of places.
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radio show, but far too many people on the other side of the pond understand, God willing,
what's going to happen on November 5th. And so he's been helping them out.
He is a former member of the Trump administration at the highest level of the cabinet.
He was responsible for making sure all of our armed forces were ready before that in the Pentagon should we have to go to war with those who hate America.
And he is a distinguished fellow, not only at the America First Policy Institute, but he is our national security maven at Newsmax.
Welcome back, Secretary Robert Wilkie.
William S. Paley, the father of the Tiffany Network, said exactly what you did about radio.
He said it is the theater of the mind.
And that's when CBS was the golden child of broadcasting.
It's funny, I'm 53, so most of these were recorded long before I was even born.
One of my favorite things to do at home is to listen to radio theater from the 40s and the 50s.
It's just, it captures you.
And you had the greatest actors at the time.
Yes, Hollywood actors would go on radio, theater radio.
That's right.
Yeah.
Shall we just reminisce for the next 40 minutes?
Good to see you.
Good to see you, though.
You too.
Sorry I've been away.
Not at all.
You're doing very important business.
So, no names, no pactual, don't embarrass anybody, but I'm so curious, because I used to do what you did.
Not at your level, but for 20, 30 years, I did the NATO conference circuit, okay?
From SHAPE to Brussels to the new NATO nation member states.
I used to go to all of these things.
It's part of my job as a, you know, DoD employee or as a think tank president.
And I don't do it anymore because I've got this.
I just love being in the radio chair.
I love doing, you know, supporting America First here domestically.
So I don't do that anymore.
So I have to ask, as the person who's been meeting with the highest level of individuals amongst our ally nations, I don't want to give the witness a leading question.
But do they understand?
Are they clear?
They certainly do in Eastern Europe.
Okay, good.
Tell us, without names, the expectation.
Countries on the front lines, let's just say that.
People who, in my parents' lifetime, have felt not only the boot of the Communists, but the boot of the Nazis.
And they understand that... Well, it was in the Telegraph yesterday.
President Trump gave Putin a red light.
Don't move.
There's no aggression.
They know Biden gave him multiple green lights.
And I hate to use cheap metaphors.
But it boils down to that.
But there's that one moment where he literally was asked about if Putin invades.
And he says, well, it depends upon the scale of the operation.
And you go, excuse me?
Right.
What?
The invasion depends.
It's an invasion!
And on top of that was Afghanistan.
Democrat administrations tend to do this.
That's how we got into the Korean War when the State Department said, Korea's outside of our sphere, not taking note of the buildup of Soviet musicians and tanks under the Kim regime.
And then the next thing Harry Truman knows, he's got a full war on his hands.
But let's take a step back.
I've been fascinated And I'm not surprised.
The Western Europeans have not read The Art of the Deal.
You'd think their intelligence services would do that.
It's not a thick book.
No.
The Eastern Europeans have it memorized at all levels of government and they realized That Trump saying the things he did about Europe, those words were the opening gambit of a road to a deal.
The deal being the increase in spending on defense by nations that just thrived under the American eagle.
It's not just Western Europeans.
I would add our friends in Canada.
I'll just make the statement.
When I was born, when you were born, Canada had the fourth largest army in NATO.
Today, their army is about the size of the Alabama National Guard and probably less effective.
And they had huge contributions to peacekeeping.
Huge.
Absolutely.
And they were a two-ocean power.
And under Trudeau I and Trudeau II, they have been emasculated.
The UK, now Sunek says they're going to go on a war footing, but he has a long way back.
Combined, the strength of the Royal Navy, Royal Air Force, and the British Army is smaller than the United States Marine Corps.
Now, the Army recruits almost as many people each year as are in the Marine Corps.
Just our army.
That tells you how small.
And then they've got these two hulking aircraft carriers that are nothing more than glorified docks because when they built them they got rid of the fleet air arm.
The years of HMS Victory and the Falklands Wars and task groups.
Could you imagine if they had to do a Falklands War operation now?
They couldn't.
They couldn't, and that is bad news for us because, you know, you've served in that army.
You know that even in this century, there is a cultural acuity that the British have, born of tradition, born of an education system for the officer corps, that gives them a perspective that we don't have.
They're very good at it, and the Canadians used to be good at it.
But in the West, they immediately took the bait when Trump was saying what he said about Russia.
Instead of saying, you know, he's right, we're not contributing.
Oh, he's going to leave us to the mercy of Vlad the Impaler.
But that's not what he was saying.
And you have said many times, and I've used your illustrations, That under Donald Trump, combat brigades flowed into Eastern Europe.
Because Trump and you and your staff realized that what's the sense in having a military force that had more generals than it had rifle company commanders in Europe.
All right, there we're talking to former Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie.
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I had a pleasant experience of the first time this ever happened to me in America.
We were in Texas for my son who was doing the Iron Man in Houston and, you know, I had a break from cheering him on so I went to the nearest cigar lounge to buy some cigars to celebrate with him later.
And I'm at the checkout and there's this veteran in a wheelchair before me paying up the other cash point and he's getting his 10% veterans discount and then My guy, the black guy at the cash desk who's ringing me up, he says, are you a veteran too?
And I said, not in this army, British Army.
And the vet shouts from his wheelchair, you give a veteran's a veteran, give him the discount too.
Is that sweet?
Is that sweet?
That's nice.
And they did.
And they did.
Yeah.
But the Eastern Europeans, no.
But the other side of this, now with Finland in the fight, and the Swedes, Putin's overmatched.
But, if we pull the rug from the Ukrainians, he'll have time to rebuild.
And in the Baltics, he'll chew off.
Let's walk through that.
Let's walk through that.
Yeah, I'll use the Richard Kemp headline, and then we'll talk about it.
And then get the Russia B-roll ready.
Yeah, the Ukraine war.
They took out two supply trains yesterday.
The Ukrainians did.
Big supply trains.
What about the bridge?
The fact that that's still standing?
I guess that will be the last roll of dice.
I have said politely that the mistake Zelensky has made is one that everyone from Julius Caesar to Dwight Eisenhower understood.
When you hear them say they can't give up a village, or the village is key, that means when you defend everywhere, you defend nowhere.
Nowhere, right.
And they've done that, and that's why I think the previous Chief of Staff, well that was one of two, the other one was You're not conscripting anybody under the age of 27.
Right.
And you're asking other people to supply you, but you're not.
But still, the contributions of Germany and France are minuscule.
Playing both sides.
The Germans are coming close to being totally irrelevant.
Although they are sending ships to RIMPAC.
Oh, really?
They're on the way.
Wow!
When did they last do that?
They've never done it.
Never done that, right?
The Kriegsmarine hasn't been outside of Europe.
The Baltic Sea.
Well, actually, outside of the Atlantic since 1944.
1944.
Yep.
Yep.
Yes, please.
The Japanese are deploying their two carriers for the first time.
That's big.
And they have F-35s.
they can take down any hypersonic China.
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It's been quite a while since he's been on.
A rather outspoken individual, Colonel Richard Kemp, wrote this article that was mentioned by our guest just yesterday in The Telegraph.
Donald West has saved NATO and the West.
I want to harken back To your recent trip to Europe, to the Baltic states and elsewhere, it's so difficult to meld the calls
against President Trump, the vituperation, the he wants to disband NATO, he's on Russia's side, that I hear as kind of Democrat Party talking points coming out of mouthpieces in Europe.
Is that just to placate lefties over here?
Because you're talking in enclosed rooms.
Are they living in the real world, or is it just the Baltics, Poland, who get it?
As you go further west, what do you see?
Well, as I go further west, I still see the chattering classes that have, for the better part of the last 150 years, considered the American people to be a bunch of rubes that the sophisticates of the people who gave us the Congress of Vienna... The League of Nations.
The League of Nations.
I had one interesting encounter at the Commonwealth Club in London, and I sat on my hands while two members of the European Parliament talked about how the EU had created peace in Europe, and one of the editors of the Times could see me seething.
He was the host, and he said, we have a distinguished guest in the audience, former Assistant Secretary of Defense.
Secretary Wilkie, do you have any comments about the last observation?
I said, well, yes.
I said, there has been peace for 70-something years in Europe.
But that's because 700,000 American troops have been in the middle of the continent preventing you all from slaughtering each other the way you have for 1,000 years.
I'm not going to be invited to any EU confed.
Yes.
But, you know, that's the attitude that so many of them have.
How was the reaction to your historically factual comment?
Half of the room clapped and laughed.
The other half, you know, wrote their psychologists and shot off something to Brussels saying there was a new American threat.
But if you look at the comments of the NATO Secretary General, I believe he's a socialist.
I think he's a socialist.
Yes, yes, yes.
He was the Minister for Environment in the Socialist Party before becoming Prime Minister.
Right.
And some of the nonsense coming out of Brussels, it's the same old left-wing claptrap.
These are the same people who turned a blind eye when all of Willy Brandt, former Chancellor of West Germany, half of his staff were communist spies.
And they just brushed that under the rug.
More recently, even when it's not being, you know, found out and revealed that you had Soviet spies at the highest level of West German government.
When you have Chancellor Schröder leave office to become vice president of Gazprom under Putin, you go, hang on, I mean, there's cynicism and there's working for the enemy, and this is the latter.
And my wife will get mad at me for saying this, too.
The army of the Federal Republic of Germany is an olive drab Meals on Wheels program.
And its generals will tell you that.
They can't fight.
They can't train.
They can't fight.
They can't deploy anywhere.
The once proud German army is more than a shell of itself.
It's a shadow.
And without that in the central part of Europe, Europe will always be catching up.
Although I would add, as you hinted in the opening to this segment, the addition of Finland and Sweden, but particularly the Finns.
More artillery pieces than any country on the planet.
They're all pointed in one direction.
Let's talk about... Can we keep you in the studio a little longer?
Oh, yeah.
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There wouldn't be much left of St.
Petersburg.
And the great thing that the Baltic states, their ministers, were saying is that the accession of Finland has given them a lifeline.
They can't be totally cut off.
Right.
Because Finland and Sweden are there.
Thank you.
And if the performance of the Russian Navy off Crimea is any indication, I don't think it would last very long against the Swedes.
Yeah, let's do a sit-rep of where the war's at.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
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Can I also say something about these Bolsheviks on the campus?
I was going to ask you.
Let's do that in the last segment.
Jew-hatred.
Yeah, I don't use the word anti-Semite anymore.
I don't either.
It's just Jew-hatred.
We're going to need that B-roll for the E-block.
Just demonstrators, you know, Hamas, pro-Hamas guys.
We'll use Russia footage here, and then we'll do a pro-Hamas in E.
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That's going to be right at the top of the list for Secretary Blinken to keep pushing for this temporary ceasefire.
We want it to last for about six weeks.
It would allow for all those hostages to get out and, of course, to allow for easier aid access to places in Gaza, particularly up in the in the north.
So he's going to be working on that very, very hard.
He'll also be talking to the Israelis about their intentions and they're thinking about Rafa military operations and sort of where they are in the in the planning stages for that.
What an insult to the naval uniform he once wore.
Kabul, Kirby.
Six weeks ceasefire so the hostages can make their way out.
They're not in a traffic jam on the interstate outside of Los Angeles.
They're probably dead, by the way.
And two of them are Americans, you utter disgrace.
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I find it stunning when we look at the war in Europe, just the phrase war.
The war in Europe should be a historic phrase, should refer to events prior to 1945.
Sadly, it doesn't under the Biden administration.
But to have, you remember as well as I do, the balance of power, the annual publication out of the Royal United Services Institute.
That's right.
If you look at that cataloging of all the militaries of the world, Russia, two years ago, was ranked second to America, and Ukraine was ranked 22nd.
The fact that Ukraine, despite the Donbass and Crimea, still exists as an independent nation, what does that say about the Russian forces?
Well, first of all, it tells you something about our intelligence service.
It's repeating the same mistakes that were made during the Cold War, that these people are somehow 10 feet tall, and the steamroller was going to roll up all of Europe.
It says that this is a military fit for a kleptocracy.
I'll give you an example.
Mr. Abramovich, the former owner of Chelsea Football Club.
I'm an Arsenal fan, so I enjoy saying this at what level?
A very wealthy man.
That's right.
One of Putin's gangster buddies.
He was responsible for tank production.
Well, we now know what he was doing with the money.
He was investing in super yachts, some yachts the size of the Titanic, and his football club.
And the Russian defense industry was turning out steel tanks.
Along the lines of the 1950s, which didn't work.
And they also relied on North Korean munitions, three quarters of which don't work.
Everyone from the Secretary of Defense and the senior leaders of the Russian army are all political hacks.
That sounds familiar to some in this country, in the West.
They're not professionals.
But in the back of their minds, they understand the one thing that the Russian nation has constantly done, and that is send ten of theirs to get one of yours.
Well, Russia is not the size of the old Soviet Union.
And now the empty chairs are starting to pile up.
And it's going to come a time when he's got to dip into the populations of Saint Petersburg and Moscow, where the elites live, as opposed to the hinterlands where he's gobbling up every little village.
But it does point to rank corruption.
And the mere fact alone, if you just look at the mathematics that Russia to Ukraine has lost 2000 main battle tanks.
Absolutely stunning.
Yeah.
And most of its Black Sea fleet to a country that doesn't have any ships, right?
It's Air Force can't fly.
But one of the great tragedies of this conflict, and it's goes to the incompetence of this Biden national security team.
Is that from day one, they told Zelensky not to fire into Russia, not to interdict Russians coming to the front.
Well, you know, that's been the basic concept of America, American tactical doctrine in Europe since the end of World War II, and that is interdicting the rear echelons and destroying the rear elements so that panic spreads forward and there's no support.
They've limited Ukraine's ability, and they're very good at taking the fight to different
levels of Russian, of the Russian military organization and civilian infrastructure.
I was just saying last night they destroyed with their drones and some missiles two massive
Russian supply trains.
That's how Putin's been refurbishing his forces, using the technologies of the 19, of World
War I.
Yeah, the railheads.
Right, the railheads.
So they're capable of doing that, but they haven't fully mobilized their country.
I'm talking about the Ukrainians now.
And because of that, and because Zelensky has an amateur's view of how to fight this, and I try not to be disrespectful.
I'll use the American Civil War as an example.
No country was ever conquered by a Western army the size of the Confederacy, geographically.
But Jefferson Davis, Mr. West Pointer, decided not one inch of what he would call sacred southern
soil was going to be occupied.
That meant from the New Mexico border all the way to Alexandria, Virginia,
in an environment where the rivers, major rivers, dissected the whole enterprise.
And I'm going to be back in a minute.
And Lincoln picked and chose where he wanted to fight using those rivers.
Zelensky made the same mistake.
Of saying?
Defend everywhere.
Which means?
Defend nowhere.
Correct.
And when you see the reports of just the consternation about losing a single village, instead of
regrouping, focusing on a weak point in the river and breaking through, that to me looking
– and I don't have access to all the intelligence anymore.
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Perfect, yeah, I'll mention that.
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You're doing something beautiful tomorrow in Fayetteville with students
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They are being inducted into all of the armed services.
I'm very honored to be part of a group called Our Community Salutes.
It's run by a wonderful former college president named Dr. Kenneth Hartman and our job is to welcome Not just the inductees, but the families into the military.
And actually next week, we'll be in Camden, New Jersey.
And it's more important for us to be in places like that, where there's no military concentration.
Where we can tell those parents, this is what to expect.
And simply put, by the time your youngster's 23, We'll probably have made more life-changing decisions than the average American makes in a lifetime.
And we'll learn how to lead, how to look at a future employer in the eyes, offer a hand, and say, I can do wonders.
And a solid handshake.
Yes.
So when you see this lunacy that we're witnessing on college campuses, it's juxtaposed with what you're seeing, and you feel good.
Well, I always feel good when I see those numbers.
We're not doing enough because the problem's not those folks who live around Fort Bragg.
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I did not ask for the position, but now that I have it, I intend to give it the best I
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I took the position on one condition, that the Bureau would be free of politics and would be operated on a merit basis.
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The 1959 movie with a cameo meant to be J. Edgar Hoover, the man who started with the Bureau of Investigations and became the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigations, serving, incredibly, a total of 48 years in that position.
That was the FBI as was.
An institution Americans looked up to.
The G-men.
The government men.
An institution the world looked up to as the most prestigious law enforcement agency on the globe.
Today that story is very different, and that is why we're going to have one of our rare return visits on the Manhood Hour with a man who has worn the badge of that entity, but today will tell us a very different story.
Kyle Serafin, whistleblower extraordinaire, patriot extraordinaire, welcome back to the Manhood Hour.
Dr. G, it's good to talk to you again.
So tell us about Because I can talk about this for hours, because prior to my service in the White House, I worked closely with the Bureau.
I was one of their instructors on terrorist ideology.
But way back when, before you walked down the yellow brick road at Quantico, what did the FBI mean to you as a man?
I think I had the same instinct that all Americans.
Used to have, which is that it was a premier law enforcement agency.
If you wanted to go for the best, that's where you went.
That if you were looking to do police work at the highest capabilities or the highest levels, then that's where it was.
And a lot of that is like a myth that is sold by the FBI.
In fact, they can't help but tell you while you're there.
And I've worked with some really, really elite capable people.
And what I found about them is that they never tell anybody that they're elite.
They just perform at a level.
The FBI's Academy constantly reminds you that you are at the premier law enforcement agency in the world.
And I thought, why do they keep saying that?
Like, who are they trying to convince?
Themselves?
Or me?
Or all of us?
It reminds me of when I won a fellowship to Harvard back in the 90s and I was super excited that I got the fellowship and then before I even leave Europe for my two-year fellowship at the Kennedy School, I swear to you Kyle, this manila envelope arrived at my home in Budapest and it must have been about three inches thick And it wasn't about me or the courses I could take or the research I could do.
It was three inches of color brochures on how amazing Harvard is.
And I'm thinking, guys, I'm already in.
You don't have to do the propaganda unless the propaganda is really important for yourselves.
It sounds like the Bureau was a bit like that.
I've had it described to me as a fraternity, and the thing about a fraternity is that the fraternity is always right, even when it's wrong, and that is the Bureau in a lot of ways.
He just, in fact, that little intro right there, you know, one man can bring it down, that mentality means that you have to defend the reputation of the FBI above all things, and apparently it includes, above federal law at this point, we've got people that are acting outside the bounds of federal law that are constantly sort of Subjugating what they swore to do.
It was described to me as institution over constitution the other day and that also rings very true if you think about it.
I love that.
I love that.
I want to explore that a little bit more as we go on, but I'm writing it down.
That could be a great title for this hour.
Institution over constitution.
All right.
I want us to be cognizant of Any kind of bias or what have you.
You had a very interesting career prior to joining the FBI.
You hung out with some very cool guys and were very qualified in special skill sets.
I presume when you went through the course at Quantico, There were good people around you, and there were exceptions to the rule, people who didn't hide behind the badge or wanted to protect the institution.
So, give us a sense of, tell us what year you started, and once your eyes started to open, what you saw around you in terms of those who actually believe in I don't know if it's still there, but when I toured at Quantico, there was this big FBI badge in the main building that said instead of Federal Bureau of Investigations, it said Fidelity, Bravery, and Integrity.
How many people around you actually represented that to you?
It's probably broken into thirds if I'm being honest.
I think I'm being charitable on that, but let's call it thirds.
There were a third of people there that were absolutely exceptional.
They were physical studs, men and women, much more men than women, if you can imagine.
That makes sense, because it's just the difficulty of it.
But they were a third of them that are kind of like mid-level capabilities, if you will, and then maybe a third of sort of diversity, inclusion, hires that look like they probably didn't belong there, but they have been.
And when is that?
So you were there when?
2016 was when I went through the academy.
So by that time, diversity was very important.
Yeah, so I always tell the story.
There were two black guys that were in my class that I remember very poignantly.
And they're a great sort of mirror of each other.
One guy was a former unarmed security guard at the Detroit Zoo.
And that was his only job.
He was 25 years old.
And he had no previous work experience other than that, and so he got hired.
Did he look like Paul Barth, the mall cop?
Was he a little bit tubby?
No, he was a stud.
He was absolutely fit.
I mean, he was a muscular guy.
He claimed his tactical experience came from growing up on the streets of Detroit, so whatever that means.
And then his counterpart was a black guy that was a former Marine Corps officer, if memory serves.
I know he was a police officer, and he was a SWAT team guy, and he was a stud as well.
And you look at the two of them, And Raphael no longer works for the FBI.
Which one's Raphael?
You're gonna have to guess.
Okay.
And Deshaun is now a supervisor at the Counterterrorism Division.
Wow.
Wow.
All right, walk us through what, was it really, was it all, we're so great, we're so great, we're so great, or was the new agent class, was that a serious course?
I would not call it serious based on the previous training that I had.
But what I had was exceptional to most people.
Remind us what you did before the FBI.
So before the FBI, which is what I told my classes, I was a stay-at-home dad with no kids.
That was my most recent job before being an FBI agent.
And I said that in the class and everyone gave me this look like, who's this dude?
But before that, I had been in the military.
I had been a civilian paramedic.
And then prior in the military, I'd actually worked in the special operations.
I spent my entire time training.
So no deployments, no claim of that, but I went through combat control, pipeline, all the way up until I almost died at Fort Bragg, so I was 18 months deep into that.
And then I went through pararescue in-doc, I went through combat dive school, and I went through some of the other kind of training, including the paramedic portion.
So I left on my own terms.
I basically wasn't going to get deployed, and I wasn't going to finish the pipeline and have to re-enlist.
I didn't want to do that at 32.
So why FBI?
Because you were close to the cutoff, which is like 35, right?
I think it's 36, and I was walking right in at 35, yeah.
So why the Bureau?
I went in with the idea that maybe I would go into the tactical recruitment program.
They recruit guys to be special operators in the, what do they call it, hostage rescue
team.
And actually just before COVID struck, I was doing a spin up to go and be one of their
medics.
I thought that would be a tryout worth my time.
They canceled it because of COVID stuff.
And then my life took a very different turn afterwards.
But that was my goal was to be a tactical guy to take sort of the outdoor skills that
I had learned and maybe serve the government.
I had about a million dollars worth of training.
There's not a lot of paramedics that go into the FBI as agents.
There were about 50 of the 14,000 FBI agents when I was serving.
That was the goal.
That was the mindset that I had.
But I was immediately dissuaded about that when I got there because... Hold that thought.
We will get to how your journey took another path.
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All right, so you're at the FBI.
The New Agents course is a walk in the park for you with all your military background and training.
Then when do you start to realize, Kyle, that things are not quite as you expected?
It was the first day I walked in.
It was a Sunday afternoon.
I walked into Quantico and there was a lady behind a counter that handed me a folder and said, welcome to the FBI.
And I was waiting to get punched.
I wore my most smokeable suit, which meant that I thought I was going to be doing calisthenics and PT.
That's how you got initiated into new units when I was serving in the Air Force.
And that was not the case.
Then we had a week of softness and a lot of people telling us how great it was that we were there and how great the place was.
But you always give the benefit of the doubt, because the schoolhouse is never the same thing as going to the real work.
I was assigned to the Washington field office.
My first day might be the most epic FBI first day.
Which field office are you in?
Well, we call it worst field office, but people will know that it's Washington field office.
And why was it so epic?
Explain.
I got picked up at about 3 30 in the morning.
It was a rainy morning in December of 2016.
My training agent was a SWAT team guy.
He was a big muscular Chinese dude.
He was a fighter in the in the karate world or in the Taekwondo world.
And so he picks me up and in there is a shield and a ram.
And I got my body armor on and my plates and everything and we drove to a briefing center.
So we never went to the field office to start off.
We went straight out to this library in the middle of this garbage part of Washington D.C.
and he gives the briefing.
I gave the deadly force briefing because I had it in my pocket and also I'd memorized it.
And then we went and we hit a door.
He gives me the ram and he said, Our boss told me not to let you into the house.
Your job is to be on perimeter.
But this is the job.
So you're on the ram.
And so my first job was to, you know, have them knock announce and say, Hey, we're coming in.
And this was on a On a PCP bust.
It was a narcotics bust that was being done at like 19 different states or 19 different sites.
And so I run up the stairs and knock the door down and then go back and ditch the ram.
And then I ended up rolling in, clearing a hallway, finding out that hallway was in fact a stairwell, flashed my light down there, gave a call down because why not?
And then I ended up arresting the subject who came up.
We put him into cuffs and then we found out that he had multiple firearms and he was a felon.
So we did a probable cause arrest on the spot.
It was the first thing I did as an FBI agent coming out of the Academy.
And that was the last time I did anything like that, in the same way, because I got assigned to the counterintelligence division, which is basically sit and spy on Americans and read FISA, which is not nearly as fun.
Right.
So let's let's talk about why you are a suspendable, why you have a give, send, go, give, send, go dot com slash Carl Serafin.
We've talked about What the FBI was to outsiders for half a century.
We've talked about what it was like for your induction and your indoctrination.
In a sentence, what is the FBI today, Kyle, as somebody who served in it and carried the shield?
The FBI is an intelligence agency with law enforcement capabilities, which you have accurately called the secret police.
That's what they do in America right now.
And who are they investing the most of their man hours in investigating and hunting down?
They spend an awful lot of time looking for so-called white supremacists, but that's expanded to people on the political right into domestic violent extremists, which is Everyday Americans that haven't committed crimes, but they might.
So they gotta be ready for it.
And when the current director, Christopher Wray, proudly states on the floor of Congress that the biggest investigation in the FBI's history, including 9-11, is the January 6th investigation, how do you react to that as a former agent?
I think it's embarrassing.
It was embarrassing when they said it while we were there.
So I worked for the Washington field office in Washington, D.C.
on January 6th.
I was actually on leave that day, shooting with some cops out in Maryland.
And when we saw it, we thought it was hysterical because we didn't understand what was going on.
We saw guys running off with a lectern.
You know, there's people sitting at Nancy Pelosi's desks.
You're like, what on earth happened?
How bad of a failure occurred?
And the failure looked like it was a it was a FBI slash federal government failure, because they actually
have protocols to handle large crowds in DC. As you well know, there are protests and
there are people that gather on the lawn.
There are big events that happen every single year on a regular basis, whether it's March for Life or
State of the Union. Like there's a big deal and they have a whole procedure called the National
Special Security Event process. They're supposed to be able to ward this stuff off. They do this
all the time. And so when that failed so dramatically, it's really obvious to me that
that wasn't the biggest case the bureau should be working.
I know guys that actually retired over it.
They were so embarrassed that that was what was being asked of them. They put in their papers.
And what was the issue that finally made you decide to be an official whistleblower, Kyle?
So, whistleblower is a statutory definition.
I actually started doing that in 2017.
I started going to my management, which is one way to do it, and I brought concerns that I had about FISA and some other things.
This continued in 2018 and 2019 while I was on the surveillance team.
I thought they were misusing policy, so I brought that to the Office of the Inspector General.
Didn't go anywhere.
Finally, what I saw was that the attorney general got up in front of Congress and said
they wouldn't be using Patriot Act tools and counterterrorism resources to attack parents
at school board meetings.
And then we got an email from the assistant director of counterterrorism saying that they
were going to be using resources to investigate parents at school board meetings.
So I thought the attorney general had likely perjured himself.
And so that was the actual whistleblower disclosing that I did.
I've done a bunch since then.
There's probably 13 to 15 that are on record with various members of Congress.
We did one the other day that showed that they were using FISA, they being the FBI,
and they essentially admitted in an unclassified document that they had been doing evidence
searches for criminal activity in strict violation of FISA.
And so I submitted that to a member of the House on the Judiciary Committee.
And as a whistleblower, were you protected by those people on Capitol Hill that are meant
to protect you?
Thank you.
No, not at all.
I lost my job.
First, I was suspended for a long time.
In October, I went to my member of Congress in New Mexico, got kicked out of the office about three weeks later and told I couldn't come back in unless I did COVID swabs and kind of bent the knee because they wanted me to test for COVID every 72 hours.
I didn't do that.
Lost my paycheck for a couple of months, was able to come back in March because Biden changed the rules.
And then six weeks later, I had my badge and my gun unceremoniously taken from me.
And from that time on, I was an unpaid, permanently suspended FBI agent.
That went for about a year.
And then they accused me of some felonies that were false.
And they were only able to do so because I was considered unemployed despite not being paid in over a year.
So I told them that I acknowledged our breakup and that I resigned from a job that I wasn't getting paid from.
And I'd already sold the house because we didn't have an income.
My kids were made homeless.
We were able to kind of get ourselves on our feet and then not just sort of survive but also thrive and I've actually been able to raise money as you have on the banner there.
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I'm going to ask a very prosaic question before we get to how this affected your life, your
family's life, the friends that came along with you as Whistlebrowers.
Maybe I'm being naive, but how does this perversion of this legendary entity work in real life?
Because, okay, you see the Attorney General perjure himself and say, we're not going to go after civilians for political purposes.
Then the Assistant Director of Counterterrorism sends down this memo, target these parents at school board meetings or, you know, surveil these Catholics who are going to Latin Mass.
I, you know, I can kind of envisage that there's this politicization via paper trail.
But when you're in the field office, when you're at an RA or what have you, Is the politics overt?
Does the senior supervisory agent say things that are anti-conservative, anti-Trump?
Or is it all very veiled and hush-hush and everybody's tiptoeing around it?
How did the corruption evince itself inside the building, Kyle?
It's the saddest and kind of simplest answer, I think.
The corruption comes from the fact that people are not financially solvent and they rely on that paycheck every two weeks.
They're just like every other American that's out there that, you know, lives in debt and is unable to make hard decisions in that way.
So my boss actually told me, I agree with the things you're saying, you know, I want to back you up, I have a mortgage, I have an alimony, you know, I'm divorced and I can't do that.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Actually verbalizes that, says, I agree with you, what you're reporting Should be reported.
It's wrong, but I have to make the mortgage payment.
Correct.
Yeah.
And in this case, this was a discussion about COVID and my unwilling to, uh, you know, to put a swab up my nose.
I told him, I was like, look, I'm a paramedic.
I've got a decade of experience.
I got a top secret clearance.
You can trust me to stay at home with a Kleenex.
And I got plenty of sick leave, but that was not good enough.
What they wanted was a knee bent.
And he, he straight up told me that he believed me.
He was a nice guy, a conservative guy, as far as I could tell, a military officer that had left and then gone in and was ready to retire.
And he said, I got two and a half years and I can't do that.
And that was the same reason why I ended up with that memo.
I didn't actually get the memo or the email stating that the counterterrorism director, you know, assistant director was going to target people.
It was passed to me by another supervisor, someone who outranked me on the pay grade, but he knew it was a problem.
He said, did you see this?
And they sent it over and I went to Congress with it.
I was one of two people in 36,000 employees that thought that was a problem.
That's not, that's not a good organization.
And so the problem is it's not overt.
I think there's a lot of conservatives.
It's a very conservative organization.
The people that are running it are holding paycheck, pension, status, you know, the possibility of facing what my family did, which is losing your home.
And people make the easy choice.
It's very, very common.
That's how people get corrupted, is they choose comfort and they choose ease and they choose institution over constitution.
And so then the end result is tyranny.
You just incrementally walk your way into it.
It's just a question of character and morality.
Some of us were willing to walk away from everything.
My buddy Gerard O'Boyle is one, Steve Friend is another that I didn't even know when I worked at the Bureau.
You know, I'd never met these guys.
But there's a small cadre of people, there's a couple hundred, that are willing to hold that line.
And there's a bunch of people that are willing to just go along to get along because how do you think this gets done?
It's the same thing that happened in Nazi Germany.
This is the thing they actually teach FBI agents about.
They make you go to the Holocaust Memorial Museum.
You're supposed to walk through and realize that just incrementally agreeing to break the law and small kind of compromises in your morality and your ethics is how you get to putting people onto a boxcar train and shooting people that are too slow to get into it.
This is drummed into your head when you're at the academy.
And then I guess it just goes right out the window when they put the badge and gun on.
It was a very, very small crowd of people that stepped up and did the same thing we did.
That's why our badge is upside down.
That's why we've given it to you.
You know, the black ones, you have to earn them by doing something of note.
And your support has been critical to us.
But the badge is upside down the same way people fly the American flag upside down.
It's under duress.
The ship is, for those who aren't familiar, you fly the Stars and Stripes upside down when the ship is in distress.
Well, the nation is in distress and the Suspendables logo or image is the law enforcement badge upside down because the institution is in distress.
The question is, can it be salvaged if everybody just keeps their heads down and wants to make that pension at the end of their retirement phase?
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Kyle, you...
I think I've discussed this on my show since it happened two weeks ago.
There was an amazing event at the Heritage Foundation where we managed to host FBI whistleblowers
There was an amazing event at the Heritage Foundation where we managed to host FBI whistleblowers
like Garrett to talk about what the weaponization of the DOJ and the FBI means to the average
American, what isn't discussed adequately.
And I understand your reticence, Garrett's reticence, Steve's reticence, but I think
really is as important as the institutional corruption is what was done to you, to your
family, to Garrett, to Steve and others.
And I think it was you who, I don't know, a year ago used this phrase on my show, that
the process is the punishment.
So can you explain how, you know, the HR department, how your superiors basically made your life, Garrett's life, a living hell when you started to tell the truth?
It's a sort of well-oiled machine now, but I think we were some of the earlier cases on it.
And so what happened is they know that they can't remove you without going through a process.
When you're a federal employee and you have tenure, which is to say you're off probation, in my case, that was one year in as a military veteran, they have to do some sort of due process to come and remove you from that paycheck.
And so they checked all the boxes in the most unscrupulous way.
What happened is, is rather than try to go on the merits of what was, you know, alleged about me, They simply pulled my security clearance and made sure that I couldn't come in the building.
And because I couldn't come in the building, I could no longer do work, and so I could no longer do work, I couldn't be paid for work, so I was left in what is called an indefinitely suspended status, unpaid.
That is a fundamentally dirty way, because they didn't have the courage of their convictions.
They would have never stood up.
But there was a court case that goes back to 1989 called Navy vs. Egan.
And that said that the federal government is the only place that can adjudicate whether or not you get a security clearance, and that you have no claim to it.
You have no property right to it, like your job.
No due process is required.
So they simply made an allegation, they sent the letter over, and that was the end of my paycheck forever.
So let's paint this picture for those who haven't had clearances or haven't worked for U.S.
government.
Your job requires your having a clearance.
You tell the truth.
You become a whistleblower.
The Congress isn't protecting you as they should.
You have to have that clearance to do your job.
You can't do your job without it.
And they come up with some spurious reason to say, Sorry, we saw a lot of this in the White House under John Kelly when he was sabotaging President Trump.
They say, uh, problem with your clearance.
Sorry, you can't have your clearance.
And then you can't do your job because they've made it impossible for you to do your job.
Then they can stop paying you, but you're still on the books as somebody who can't do the job because they took away your security clearance.
So it's literally a limbo whereby you cannot feed your children, and that's the point, isn't it Kyle?
Absolutely.
No, that's exactly the point.
And the other thing is, you can do one of two things.
You can resign and go get another job.
You can go get another job and they will fire you for getting another job.
Or you can request outside employment, to which they will turn it down and say, no, you can't have outside employment.
Particularly in anything within your skill set, because you're a criminal investigator with a military or law enforcement background.
Now, you can't do that either.
So they make it so that you resign.
They are no longer liable for anything that they've done to you.
And as I said, they're not willing to go through the adjudicative process.
I actually appealed all of these things.
And the appeal process, which I was granted only because I was a military veteran, for my clearance included a taped phone call where they stated something that we actually have the transcript of it, and it's from their policy guide.
They read a canned paragraph And then I said, well, I'd like to argue the facts.
And they said, well, we're not here to discuss that.
The only thing that you can do to dispute your clearance being taken is dispute that you are, in fact, Kyle Serafin.
If you're not Kyle Serafin, then we pulled the wrong clearance.
But if you are Kyle Serafin, thank you for the call.
And now the hearing is adjourned.
That's Franz Kafka.
So what did you decide to do instead?
What are you doing now, Kyle?
Tell millions of listeners right now.
So I joined the military because I'm kind of a combatant.
That's just the nature of my constitution.
So I realized we could roll over and get squashed, or my wife and I could do something different.
So we talked.
It wasn't a very long conversation.
My wife is very meek.
She's very mild.
She's not very tall.
She is from Brooklyn, though, and she's a fighter.
And the two of us decided that we were going to sell the house to stop the bleeding financially.
We were going to move into my parents' house at 42 years old and go stay in their two extra bedrooms with our family of five.
By the way, she was pregnant shortly thereafter, which is also tough.
And we decided that we were going to get really loud.
So I went on Dan Bongino's radio show.
I continued to expose some things publicly and other things privately to members of Congress.
And I have been a conduit for whistleblowers since September.
Well, I guess we'll go back to baby May of 2022.
And like I said, 15 plus disclosures to Congress.
Does it move the needle?
I don't know.
They have tools in their toolbox that they can use.
And so I run a podcast now.
I do that on Rumble and I do it on, you know, on Spotify and iHeartRate and all these kinds of places.
And I give a very fair balanced take of what it looks like because I've been in that belly of the beast very recently.
And I've got inside info that people don't generally have access to.
So I've taken into, you know, kind of into your world.
And I'm really grateful for always the opportunity to share an audience.
But this is what we do.
We have to break down and we have to go after truth with a capital T. And that can't come It's funny.
When I write my articles, you'll notice that the word truth in whatever I write has a capital T. Thank you for reminding me.
It was, of course, Dan Bongino on whose show I heard you first and who very kindly, when I texted him, connected us.
So God bless Dan for being a fighter as well.
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All right, this repeat manhood hour has flown by.
I think we could do many, many repeats of you on this show.
I want to salute you for truly being a combatant, but not in terms of just your nature, but being a combatant for what really matters.
In the last three minutes we have with you, Why are you doing this, and what keeps you going, to lose your income, your home, as your wife is pregnant?
Other people would just bend the knee, give it, and say, okay, whatever, whatever, whatever.
What keeps you going, Carl?
It's three factors.
Number one is my wife.
I went and asked her, do I just give up and give the shot and just do what they ask?
And she said, absolutely not.
She got baptized shortly thereafter, a week before I had my badge and my gun taken, so our faith is the other piece of it.
That's a big component, and it has actually grown significantly, I think, in my life, just because I've seen God's hand in so much of what we're doing.
And then the last thing is my children.
Because that's the reason why you do anything in this country, if you have skin in the game, is that you care about the future, which is a fundamentally Western concept, but it's also a fundamentally Christian concept, that we try to keep the world safe and the innocence of the young.
So, my kids have never known that we were without an income.
They've never really wanted for anything food-wise, and they're happy playing in the dirt and, you know, digging with their friends, so they don't need a lot.
They knew that we lost the locations we lived in, the neighbors and all this.
But it's got to be about the basics of what America was always founded on.
It's hope in the future.
It's women and children being protected and then doing the right thing because that's what God wants of us.
If you don't have any of those reasons, then it's going to be really hard for you to have that true aim and go after that T with a capital T.
I want to thank Dan for introducing us.
I want to thank Mike Howlett Heritage and especially Kevin Roberts who okayed that amazing seminar about what you guys have been through.
Is there anybody that we need to thank right now for the support of the Suspendables, Kyle?
Yeah, you're right.
It's Dan.
Dinesh D'Souza's been great.
You've been outstanding.
Tracy Beans has been kind of an undercover one.
She helped put out something that nobody else wanted to publish when we went after with the Catholic document.
She's awesome, too.
There's a couple of just stalwart supporters.
There's a couple of people out there that are detractors and, you know, we just, we'll muscle it on.
Look, when you're willing to do the right thing and take slings and arrows for it, it's not about media or clout and certainly not about money.
That's kind of the fun thing about what we proved and my buddies have proved.
It's a forward focus.
And then my wife is the biggest one.
She's the biggest supporter.
My wife, Emily, is awesome.
And nobody has a wife that is as supportive as I do, as far as I can tell.
All right.
Hope to finally meet her one day.
Big shout out for Emily and everybody who supports The Suspendables, which should include you, dear friend.
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