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It's kind of a philosophical sounding question, isn't it?
Sometimes it's a little complicated to know what the right thing to do is.
But sometimes it really isn't.
Is there going to be a cost to doing that thing?
And how much should the cost to you personally factor into your doing the right thing?
All right, enough of the philosophy lesson.
Let's turn it into real, real instances of what I'm talking about.
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So, I might be attending an event later today at a conservative organization, where somebody called Chairman Comer will be speaking.
And it's an event that I didn't organize, but the idea for the event came from me.
It's on the weaponization of the state against patriots.
Patriots like Steve Friend, Garrett O'Boyle, Kyle Serafin, the FBI, DOJ whistleblowers.
And should you always be polite to everybody, even when they're pathetic?
Earlier today I was on Newsmax and I didn't know what we were going to talk about and they discussed Chairman Comer and the fact that the Biden Department of Justice is refusing, as per his request, to release the five hours of audio recordings of Joe Biden's deposition.
On the illegally held classified documents that he kept for decades in his garage, in his office, in tattered cardboard boxes.
Now, lest we forget, the DOJ, the Department of Justice, the FBI, are part of the Executive.
The Executive, whether it's the Department of Energy, whether it's the Department of Justice, whether it's any part of government, is overseen by Congress.
That's called the checks and balances of our Founding Father's system of governance.
Congress has oversight of the Executive!
That's why they have subpoena power!
Merrick Garland is refusing to release the audio of special counsel Robert Herr's deposition of Joe Biden.
You know, the one where he couldn't remember what year his son died or when he was vice president.
Refusing to release.
So what is Chairman Comer going to do?
I recommended that he grow a pair of testicles on television earlier today.
Because otherwise, we have no congressional oversight over the most powerful law enforcement entity in the world.
Forget Scotland Yard and fictional characters like Sherlock Holmes.
The FBI and the DOJ has power like no other law enforcement agency.
And somebody has to make sure they're not abusing it.
So, Jim.
If they refuse to give you those tapes, what are you going to do about it?
Here's an example from a few years ago that may illuminate you.
Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann was horrified during the Obama administration that counterterrorism training of FBI agents was being censored.
People like me, who were doing that training, were having their materials illegally classified and deep-sixed in the bowels of the Department of Justice.
Lecture notes, PowerPoint slides that people like me had written, based on open source material, On the strategy of Al-Qaeda, on the strategy of groups like ISIS, what they said about jihad, what they said in their statements, in their publications like the ISIS magazine Inspire, about the need to kill all infidels, Jews, Christians and apostates.
Those materials were being censored, were being disappeared.
Why?
Because Obama didn't like them.
Michelle Bachman is a new Congresswoman, an amazing patriot.
Man, do I wish that she was still here on Capitol Hill.
Demanded that the FBI show her the documents that they were hiding, that they were classifying as secret.
Obama's DOJ.
Do you remember Eric Holder?
Held in contempt of Congress, who proudly announced that he is Obama's wingman.
Wingman.
Protecting Obama.
He refused to hand over those documents.
Documents I had written.
So the third, fourth time that Obama's flunkies did that, What did Michelle Bachman do?
All, what, 85 pounds of her?
She was like the, you know, the pre-Lauren Boebert, the proto-Lauren Boebert.
God bless her.
She drove to the FBI headquarters, demanded to be let in, and sat in the basement of the Hoover building Until they produced all the documents they had illegally classified.
And with two FBI goons standing behind her, watching her as a member of Congress with oversight authority, she read those documents and found out that they shouldn't have been classified, that they told the truth about jihadi terrorists and the threat to America.
So, Chairman Comer, can you be a little bit more like Michelle Bachman?
Here's an idea.
You've got a few hours till the end of the show.
Why don't you jump in one of your congressional SUVs and drive over to the Department of Justice, walk in the front door, flash them your congressional lapel pin, And tell them, as the chairman of the committee which has oversight over their administrative department, you are not leaving the building until they hand over all five hours of the Biden deposition.
If you're a patriot that takes your job seriously, it's really the only thing you can do.
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It took some time for me to warm to it, but through my son, I finally found a love for Keanu Reeves, reinvented as John Wick, and his A little clip that will ease us into our first guest of the day from one of those seminal films.
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How much for the car?
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Our Russian listeners will understand the end of that.
Um, great.
Great movies, great movies.
When I brought my 66 Mustang back from the paint shop last year, I had to stop for gas and it's now solid black.
It looks like an oil slick.
Coolest moment for me that month.
Somebody pulled by into the gas station, looked out the window and he says, hey, is that John Wick's car?
Close!
Not exactly, but you have to have the car and you have to have the gun.
I'm very indebted to Teran Butler who sent me one of the guns from the movie.
It is the Pit Viper.
It's a little expensive, but it is the sexiest gun out there.
If your budget is a little bit normal and not in the stratosphere, you have another option.
And our in-studio guest, oh, he gave it away!
We'll talk about it in a second, is the man from Sentry Arms who is introducing the Canik TTI, the Taran Tactical 9mm.
He's a good buddy of mine, Adam Ranola.
Welcome to America First.
Thanks for having us.
It's a beautiful day to be here.
So I have one of these new guns from you guys.
I've loved Canik since I bought one years ago.
An amazing 9mm.
I have to ask this question.
The American Terran available to everyone.
Was this your idea?
Whose idea was this?
You know, the correct answer would obviously be it was a collaborative effort, a team effort, but this was definitely something that has been on my mind for a long time.
Being a blue-collar guy, you look at some of the guns that you've been blessed to have, some of the things you see in the movies, and you always kind of drool over it.
The Second Amendment is not only a right, but a passion for you.
So I said, how could I, as an average, everyday American, afford something like that?
And it was to find that collaborative effort that fit more into my budget.
And you worked with Terran to make this, you know, genuine.
Yeah, this is something that legitimately is going to perform to the level that Terran expects to have his name on it.
So it's something that is exciting.
It's something that's going to be sleek.
And ultimately, it's going to be something that's attainable, which is big for us.
So we have to talk about why you're in DC, all the political cool stuff you're doing on Capitol Hill.
You've got a crazy schedule today and tomorrow.
But let's stay on this for a couple of minutes.
Talk to us about the day you launched it, because I was with you in Vegas at SHOT Show.
You're a very good pitchman, but I don't think you needed to pitch a gun for the everyman that has Terran's name on it, that comes from Sentry and Canik.
How successful has this gun been even before you officially launched it last week?
So yeah, so it actually goes on sale to the public April 22nd.
So, what is that, not this coming Monday, the Monday after.
So the YouTubers got it, I got one last week.
So, you haven't even launched it yet, but it's rather successful already, right Adam?
It's been a huge outpouring.
So what we anticipated doing, or some of the, not naysayers, but the more conservative analysts in our company.
Let's just run some pictures while Adam's talking about my one.
Some of the conservative analysts in our company, their projections for the entire year, we did in the first day.
More than that.
We blew it out just in the first day of the show.
Your expectations for 12 months came in one day.
In one day.
Passed it.
Blew it out of the water.
Why do you think that is?
Because I have it.
It is beautifully made.
It's under a thousand dollars.
It's bronze.
It's got the GoFaster everything on it.
It's got the compensator in it.
What do you think is the magic source?
Is it the name?
Is it the preceding Cannock reputation as well?
I mean, you've got to have some idea.
Do you want to do this again?
Yeah, I think it's both.
I mean, I really think, I think it's the reputation that Kanic has built as a price point, reliable product, and the name that Terran and TTI have built as having that eye for doing the little things that make something just that much better.
And it's the excitement that comes with the culmination of both that's truly brought something to the market that we've never seen before.
For Taron, this is his legacy.
We're going to make more guns every month than he puts out in a year.
Puts out in five years.
This is an opportunity to truly pass his name on and have it in the likes of Mossberg and Remington and these historic names.
A legacy.
A legacy name.
And we're so excited to be a part of it.
I'm blessed, thanks to Terrain, to have my Pit Viper.
I'm actually going to shoot it.
Most people buy it to put it in the safe and maybe fondle it now and again.
I'm sorry guys, I'm actually going to shoot mine.
And it's an incredible gun just to handle.
Talk to us about, this is a shooter's gun.
What Canik has produced with Terran the TTI, this is for anyone, isn't it?
Absolutely.
So that's one of the things about Canik is, Canik is known worldwide for its trigger.
So the trigger, a quality crisp trigger is going to give any shooter from introductory level all the way to expert a little bit of a competitive advantage.
In terms of actually being able to anticipate the fire, anticipate when it's going to fire, what it's going to do when it's fire.
And then we added so many extra elements that Taren's idea was from a compensator to a ported barrel to grip texturing.
The things that are going to allow this gun to truly be controlled and manipulated at an optimal level from everybody, like I said, from the entry level shooter to world champions that we have running on our teams.
Now, I met you for breakfast a couple of days ago in Florida.
You've got a new facility, a manufacturing facility.
I've got to ask you, you've blown the sales figures off in one day, completely blown them up.
Are you just going to make as many of these as the market wants?
This isn't going to be like, you know, Taron stuff that you have to wait in line for years.
So I think there's going to be a huge demand for it, and I think with that you're going to see it sell out quickly.
But our goal for this is to make this available to the masses at a price they can afford, and we're going to do everything in our power to do so.
You might not end up shooting like Turan Butler or Keanu Reeves, who really can shoot as well as he does in the movies.
But you'll be almost as cool.
Go to SentryArms.com.
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Follow them at SentryArms.
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And are our gun rights safe?
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Obviously, a lot of work went into this.
I mean, it really did.
There was a lot.
Yeah, so I mean, so they, you know, you don't put that kind of engineering and effort into it if you don't anticipate it being a success.
But it definitely was something that I think there was a few people that were like, hey, this can really do it.
Myself, Taron.
But then everybody else quickly became bullied.
You know, you've got companies like Bass Pro Shop and Academy Sports with 500 stores coming in and being like, I want 20 for every store.
Well, you start doing the numbers just on that.
Well, let's slow down actual deliverables for a little bit.
So yeah, it was one of those things that quickly became that we hit a home run.
You think he'll be one and done or you think he'll do other TTI stuff?
You've met him.
He's already spinning on three different things.
He wants to do a metal frame one.
He wants to do a concealed version.
He wants to do all the things.
It's definitely going to be a fun journey.
And he is particular in how he does things.
I'm sure he is!
I joke with him, we could have been done with this thing a year ago.
Where did you start talking to him about it?
Two years ago.
That's no bad, given his precision.
Exactly, but you know, now that I look at it and feel it again, I think we should do this, this, and this.
I have to say that trigger is wicked good.
How do you tell somebody that's truly that good at what they do?
It's freakish.
It is.
And what he does with people is just like magic.
I'm sorry, it's magic.
It really is.
Would you say the fairy dust?
Yeah, it's fairy dust.
It's like John Wick fairy dust.
They go from never even shooting a gun to legitimately running something out of a special forces training.
Some of these guys, the transitions.
Yeah.
And how good it parlays on screen is unbelievable too.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the wick flips.
The wick flip, yeah, yeah.
I don't like the air, what do they call it?
The air rack?
The air rack.
Don't do that to the gun.
Don't do that to the gun.
Where do you have to get to afterwards?
No, I'm good.
I have a 5 o'clock.
I'm just going to take a car right there by the hill.
Have you ever been to the NSSF office?
No.
It's right above CNN's office and everything.
It's 400... North Capitol?
Yeah.
That's where Fox and everybody is.
Alright, let's do my pillow at the top and then we'll talk about all the cool stuff you're doing.
I don't know what cuts have we got.
No, just in my pillow.
Peace.
So do you have a team that helps you set up all these meetings?
Who does that for you?
Most of this is driven through the NSSF.
So we have everybody from myself to Mark Smith, CEO of Smith & Wesson, Marty Daniels, a lot of the bigger names come in for this.
Is he still active?
I thought he was stepping back a bit.
Yeah, certain things, you know, you'll have like the head of legal for like Ruger always comes, some SIG, some of the smaller guys, but like Rock Island Arms Corps, they'll send their ownership.
I mean, it's a really nice conglomerate of... You guys get on with each other?
Oh yeah, everybody.
I had dinner with a couple of them last night, so yeah.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
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We are back with Adam Ranola.
He is the man of action.
Action!
Not quite at the John Wick level.
He is the Vice President of Business and Marketing for Century Arms.
We're talking cool guns.
We're talking the Terran Tactical Innovations 9mm from Canik.
But let's talk about why you're in studio.
Why you're in the swamp.
It's...
A challenge not to talk about these things in a way that makes you sound like you're a conspiracy theorist,
but let's talk bluntly. The banking system is increasingly woke and it's a threat to
customers who want to buy guns and it's a threat to businesses like yours that need solid
banking support. So why are you here on Capitol Hill, Adam?
banking support.
So why are you here on Capitol Hill, Adam?
So yeah, absolutely. So annually the NSSF, the National Shooting Sports Foundation,
So yeah, absolutely.
So annually, the NSSF, the National Shooting Sports Foundation, holds a congressional fly-in
holds a congressional fly-in where they have executives from a number of the different
where they have executives from a number of the different firearms companies come in,
firearms companies come in and the leaders of And it's a threat to businesses like yours that need solid
the leaders of Forthought, and come in and actually sit down and hold accountable members
of office, from Congress to the Senate.
We have 30-minute meetings, and we'll go in as constituents of the states that we represent,
or that they represent for us, as well as other states, meet with both sides of the
faction, from conservatives that agree with us to staunch liberals that are desperate
to take away our Second Amendment rights.
And we try to have open dialogue with them in regards to what is important, everything,
And we try to have open dialogue with them in regards to what is important, everything,
like you said, from banking to commerce acts that protect firearms manufacturers from being
like you said, from banking to, you know, commerce acts that protect firearms manufacturers
from being held liable.
held liable.
How serious is the threat now from these new acts that are desperate to take away our Second Amendment rights.
How serious is the threat now from these new acts that are trying to come after your money
or to hold companies liable?
We saw the recent cases.
Jeff was briefing me about parents who are going to prison because of some gun crime
their kid committed.
They're very serious about attacking our Second Amendment rights and making businesses like
yours harder and harder to actually execute, no?
Yeah, I think you hit it dead on the head.
I think the most important thing is, they realize there's so many guns in this country currently, and there's so much ammunition in this country currently, that the idea of taking all the guns, gun buyback, is never going to happen.
You know, the saying over my cold dead hands, out of my cold dead hands, is a real thing.
And there's a lot of Americans that feel very staunchly about that.
So what they're doing now is they're saying, alright, we're going to go against it in their pockets.
Yeah.
And that's what it is.
And attack your capacity to do business.
Exactly.
If you don't have the proper lending, if you have to worry about walking on eggshells in everything you do because some wacko, some sick-minded individual decides to inflict violence on somebody and they're going to do it whether it's with a firearm or with a car or with fertilizer.
They're going to find a way.
Or a brick.
Exactly.
Violence is going to be committed by people that are not treated properly in terms of mental health stability and regulations and protection.
And the honest thing is that what really stops a bad guy with a gun Good guy.
A good guy with a gun.
And so we're here having these conversations and some of them aren't easy, but we think it's our duty as manufacturers to kind of break that stereotype that we're all not just these guys sitting at the top of buildings in our top hats, you know.
Smoking a cigar.
Exactly.
Celebrating victory and every gun sold.
That we actually are members of this country that care and believe and are going to hold our members of politics accountable.
You're a very senior guy at one of the most successful companies out there.
We've got a minute left.
What is your message Adam Ranola to those in the banking sector or the
partners you have to deal with who are thinking of caving to the left woke?
You're talking to three and a half million people right now.
What's your message to your business partners who are thinking of surrendering?
We are your neighbor.
And when things hit the fan, we're the neighbor that you're going to lean on.
Whether it's violence, whether it's your roof has a leak in it, we're the kind of American that actually cares.
And we're going to be there for you, so don't you dare turn your back on us.
Wow.
Powerful message.
That's why we like these guys.
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They're in a position to simply try to buy votes.
Most of the green initiative is buying votes.
This whole student loan thing is buying votes.
The effort they put into rewarding the teachers union is buying votes.
When you come down to it, the Democratic Party is a combination of a very, very left-wing ideology and a machine that has to have your money to survive.
It's very simple.
The great former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, telling it like it is.
They're just buying votes.
Jeff, you had an interesting piece of analysis in the break before Adam came on when it comes to, you know, Michigan and all the uncommitted votes.
You said this isn't necessarily about the Muslim Americans who are angry with Biden over Israel.
You said something else.
What was that?
Yeah, I think that's part of it.
I think the biggest thing, it's colleges all over the place because look at the reactions with the college kids.
It's basically just people under 30.
They've had so much anti-Israel told to them that they're going to basically, they're not going to support this will or and I think that's something that they're really worried about.
But It's not like Biden is really supporting Israel, but they still think that he's, what, not enough pro-Hamas?
Because the new left, if it's not exactly everything you want, they have a problem with it.
The ceasefire, the Gaza, you know what I mean, release them, that's what it is.
There's no in the middle with these people, with the new left.
Eric, I can see you nodding, shaking your head, nodding, shaking your head.
What do you think of Jeff's analysis?
That it's not the Muslim or the extreme Muslim vote, it's the youth.
A hundred percent, he's absolutely correct.
They are just as invested in this Israel stuff as they are student loan debt.
He thinks, if I pay off all the student loans, they'll forget about the Israel thing.
But Jeff's right.
Biden, tomorrow, to get these people's support, has to literally say from the river to the sea, you know, I support Palestine, down with Israel.
That's what he has to do to get these people.
Of course, he will not go that far, but that's, he's trying to toe the line both some ways, but as they say, if you stand in between two lanes, you'll just get hit coming both ways.
That's interesting.
All right, let's stay on this topic.
The number here is 833-33 Gorka, 833-334-6752.
Let's go to David in Orlando.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
I'm a Mustang fan myself, and I own a 65 convertible, 289.
I retired from Ford Motor Company and lived in the Dearborn area where we're seeing all
of the rage today.
My question to you is the following.
The Dearborn community or the Michigan-Iraq community consists of three aspects, SUNY,
SHEA, and the Calvins.
The Chaldeans are not Muslims.
They're Catholic.
No.
They escaped the Iraq for persecution the same way everyone else has.
My question to you is the following.
How do you see the Arab community here in the United States?
Do you see the Chaldeans going alongside their Arab Well, it's a tiny community.
It's kind of politically irrelevant.
Why are you focusing on the Chaldeans?
It's an absolutely minuscule community in America.
Well, so let me get to my second part of my question.
The United States learned about Sunni and Shiite during the Iraq-Iran war.
In America, Islam was Islam, and it wasn't competitive fighting fractions.
If you go into Gaza, they kill one another.
When it comes to America, are the Sunnis and the Shiites at war with each other, or are
they part of the America's melting pot?
And having lived in Michigan, I think the Calvians are a bigger percentage of the Arab
population than a lot of people acknowledge.
Yeah, but still, on a global scale, on a national scale, it's nougatury in terms of influencing
elections.
Look, the Sunni versus Shia split, well, sadly, I think, you know, you may have woken up to it during the Gulf War, but for most Americans, they couldn't tell you the difference between them, or the attitudes that they have to each other.
I remember, it's funny you bring this up, I remember When was it?
It was before I worked for the Trump administration, and I was invited by the Department of Homeland Security to give my analysis on ISIS.
I had an eight-hour lecture, an all-day training, and I had a one-and-a-half-hour lecture that I did for the FBI and for law enforcement.
And I was invited to brief the Department of Homeland Security here in D.C.
and had a room full of 70 analysts and they broadcast it live over a secure video feed as well so that they had all the outstations because DHS is massive I mean it took over lots of agencies like the Secret Service as well when it was created after 9-11 and I'm about 15-20 minutes into this lecture Which is for professionals in the counter-terrorism community, in a very special slice of the intelligence community that's inside the Department of Homeland Security.
And I'm about 20 minutes, 15, 20 minutes in.
And one of the people in the room, I can remember it like yesterday, one of the female analysts raised her hand to stop me and ask a question.
And this is what, this is 2014 maybe, so this is a good decade and a half after 9-11.
And David, she said to me, this is a professional intelligence analyst working with CT, the Counterterrorism World, and she said, can you explain this Sunni Shia thing to me?
David, I don't think most Americans have the knowledge you do, because if a member of the intelligence community at DHS doesn't know what it is, we're in a very serious dilemma.
Are you there, David?
We are.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm here.
I'm here.
We are.
And I'm curious, are they warring between themselves here that we don't see?
Well, we don't see any signs of that, do we?
We're a melting pot together.
No, why would they be in a melting pot?
I mean, look at what's happening with the Hamas supporters on the streets of New York, or outside the White House screaming from the river to the sea.
That's the antithesis, that's the complete reverse of the melting pot.
Now, what is the interesting thing about this?
Shia, very unique, Is when you meet people who've left Iran after 79, the first one I met was on Sunday who said, I'm from Iran.
Everyone else that I've met in America who escaped after the Shah fell, they always say, I'm from Persia.
They are not fundamentalists.
They are Persian nationalists who love the pre-Shah Iran.
So I think if there's a melting pot aspect to Muslims in America, it's more likely to come from Persia and the Shia strain, especially the Sufi than it is from the Sunni.
But, wow, I could talk about this for hours.
Thank you, David.
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Jeff, this clip of Marjorie Taylor Greene, it looks like it's some kind of private fundraiser.
Has it gone viral?
Because it's pretty, uh, pretty aggressive.
Yeah, it's starting to.
Really?
Yeah.
And it was, like, yesterday, correct?
Yeah, but it's going viral on the other side.
Because I like it.
All right, so this is Margie Taylor Greene of Georgia, who is allegedly a Republican, talking about her own speaker, Mike Johnson.
It's very quick.
It's only eight seconds long, but let's play it.
Cut four.
He's not our Republican Speaker of the House.
He's the Democrat Speaker of the House, and he's doing a better job than Hakeem Jeffries.
Wow, he's the Democrat Speaker of the House.
Eric, you're shaking your head.
What do you think of this cut from NTG?
I think it's nonsense.
He, look, were we gonna get, like, Speaker Matt Gaetz or Speaker Andy Biggs?
Of course not.
But you know what?
This guy is absolutely an improvement over McCarthy.
You gotta gradually, it's shifting of the overtime window, right?
You keep getting further and further to the right.
Again, when this guy first became Speaker, the media went crazy with headlines calling him what?
A Christian nationalist.
Anyone they label with that term, I say has gotta be a good guy.
I tend to agree.
Let's squeeze in one more call.
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Oh, thank you.
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I know!
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The Republican Party should always be on the side of the miracle of life and the side of mothers, fathers.
They're beautiful babies, and that's what we are.
IVF is an important part of that, and our great Republican Party will always be with you in your quest for the ultimate joy in life.
Many people have asked me what my position is on abortion and abortion rights, especially since I was proudly the person responsible for the ending of something that all legal scholars, both sides, wanted and, in fact, demanded be ended.
Roe v. Wade.
They wanted it ended.
It must be remembered that the Democrats are the radical ones on this position because they support abortion up to and even beyond the ninth month.
The concept of having an abortion in the later months and even execution after birth, and that's exactly what it is.
The baby is born, the baby is executed after birth.
My view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint, the states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both, and whatever they decide must be the law of the land.
In this case, the law of the state.
Many states will be different.
Many will have a different number of weeks, or some will have more conservative than others, and that's what they will be.
At the end of the day, this is all about the will of the people.
You must follow your heart or, in many cases, your religion or your faith.
Playing that clip again for our next guest, one of our fan favorites, because it's causing some consternation even on our conservative side of the aisle, but I think it was the right statement to make.
I can now reveal I was at Mar-a-Lago last week helping the president to formulate the final version of that statement, and the one thing I said to him made it into the video.
He brought us the victory against that garbage piece of law, Roe v. Wade, and following the great principle of subsidiarity, pushed the issue back to the states.
We are a republic of states, and the states will decide how they want to handle this issue.
Was it the right decision, and why are so many so-called pro-life activists now gunning for the president?
Let's ask the one and only Lord Conrad Black.
Lord Black, welcome back to America First.
Thanks very much, Sebastian.
I thought it was an eloquent statement.
I personally, I would have wished that he had given an indication of his own views, because I think it would be useful, and I understand the argument against that, but for the pro-life people to be complaining about it is nonsense.
All the polls show that most people think some abortions must be tolerated.
And there is absolutely nothing to be said, in my opinion, for the Lindsey Graham theory of trying to make it a federal issue.
And I think that there will be some effort to say I think if there's any vulnerability on this politically, it'll be on the other side.
I mean, the pro-life side have nowhere to go.
The Democrats are basically for permitting what he called the execution of children.
And I mean, the aborting of live people.
And they've just got no place to go.
It's one of those things where there are impassioned views on all sides of it.
But nothing but a compromise is going to work here.
And no compromise is perfect.
That's all you're going to get.
You're not going to get an abolition.
Then you are just going back to illegal abortions of questionable sanitary standards.
And the country isn't there.
And I think we should be grateful we're not getting abortion on demand, including after live birth, all at the taxpayer's expense.
But that's essentially what the Democrats want.
Well let's listen to the Democrats.
One of their leaders, former Speaker of the House.
This is Nancy Pelosi on MSNBC predicting the key issue for November 5th.
Cut 7.
And we knew the power of that.
And those who were saying, oh, she's so wrong.
Roe v. Wade is in the rearview mirror.
People really don't care about it that much.
No, they do.
It's a democracy issue.
It's a kitchen table issue for families to make their decisions about this.
It's about respect for women.
Oh, my gosh.
So abortion is again a kitchen table issue for Democrats.
Lord Black, I'm a cradle Catholic.
I honestly never thought that Roe v. Wade would be defeated in my lifetime.
To put it in historic and presidential historic perspective, Not even the great Ronald Reagan addressed the March for Life whilst he was president.
That was my former boss, President Trump.
He gave us three nominees.
They struck down this awful piece of quote-unquote law and pushed it back to the states.
And as you recall, even Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who was a relatively left-wing judge, said it's bad law.
Yes.
So is your estimate of the next seven months, that given the state of everything else, from the economy to global wars to the state of the border, illegal immigration, crime in democratic states, are we really going to see the Democrats Try to mobilize their voters based upon abortion once more?
Well, I think they'll give it a go, because they can't easily defend the record of the administration, and they can't really, after they've finished all their nonsense about comparisons with Hitler and so on, complain about Trump's performance when he was president, because most Americans acknowledged they were better off then.
So I think they may try and go back to the tired old theory that the Republicans are anti-woman.
And the Republicans just have to put up a proper defense against that.
There's no doubt the Republicans shipped some water on the abortion issue in the midterm elections.
So to that extent, the former president's taking a bit of a gamble.
sticking by his guns and saying, look, I'll go with the Supreme Court.
It's the state's call.
Those states who want to liberalize abortion, they can do it.
And those who want to make it more difficult, they can do it.
And just get ready to fight this idea of being anti-woman, which is just nonsense.
I mean, it's not as if all women are pro-abortion and men have no right to say any of these
things.
Why is it that you...
But why do you think it has become this seemingly perennial central issue in American politics?
I don't see this, it wasn't the central issue when I lived in England for 23 years, it wasn't the central issue when I lived in Central Europe for 15 years.
America seems rather sui generis in this regard, doesn't it?
It does.
I mean, as you know, I'm a member of the British Parliament.
The way we handled it there was we had all parties agreed it wasn't a partisan issue.
It was a conscientious question.
No whips.
People vote their conscience.
And we presented a series of bills in both houses of Parliament saying all abortions are illegal.
All abortions are illegal.
Abortions are good up to 1, 2, 3, etc.
a month.
And where you got the majority was at five months.
And so that's the law.
And everyone admitted in advance it was going to be a compromise, and that was the best that could be done.
And it wasn't a partisan issue at all.
But here, the Democrats miss him head on with women, and so they've stuck with it.
So is it just a cynical exploitation of an issue that they think mobilizes their base?
That's what it looks like to me.
And it helps them portray Trump in particular, and the Republicans generally, as kind of medieval, anti-woman, chauvinistic, and all the rest of it, you know?
But I don't, for what is my two cents a word, I don't think the country is going to buy it when, you know, people who want an abortion can get one.
And, um...
There are other things that really bother them, you know, such as the fact that their disposable income has shrunk and the country's a laughingstock in the world.
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Lord Black, I'm sure you're familiar with Dick Haas, or Richard Haas, as he goes by formally, the former Head, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations, who now makes his living as a talking head, bashing Trump and anyone associated with him.
His latest comments gel in terms of being apropos with your article in the New York Sun.
Let's just listen to his prescriptions for the situation in the Middle East.
I think the best thing you can do is try to negotiate these medium, these mini-deals, and hold off massive offensives.
Because again, I worry about a massive offensive, because what it will do to U.S.-Israeli relations, and what it will do to alienating the population in Gaza and the rest of the Arab world.
Again, this has been part of the Israeli problem from the get-go, these large-scale military operations.
Cost Israel in many ways is in addition to whatever it might accomplish I don't know what a mini deal is when we still have American hostages being held by the terrorists in Gaza, but this idea that if Israel continues its military offensive against the terrorists responsible for October 7th, it will endanger U.S.-Israeli relations.
Well, they're pretty bad already.
Your piece is about whether we can recover from the current situation of global relations for America.
Tell us a little bit about what you've written for the New York Sun and whether they can be repaired rather rapidly.
Well, first of all, I want to say I was at one time on the International Advisory Board of the Council on Foreign Relations, and I knew Richard Haass, and I must say I like him as a person.
I haven't seen him for almost 20 years, but I liked him as a person.
I don't think he's a bad man, but he was more robust in those days.
I disagree with Amir.
I think the leader of of Hamas, Henea, has made it clear that, as he puts it, if
Hamas survives, we win.
And I think those are the terms that you're on.
If they can commit the atrocities they did on October 7, being as barbarous and obnoxiously
uncivilized as it is possible to be in the way they treated some of the women and children,
elderly people and so on, and survive, we are stuck with them.
Where I part company with Richard and others is That means there will never be any peace.
Israel will never be able to deal with immediate Arab neighbors who acknowledge the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state, and therefore there will be no peace.
There will just be continuous, intermittent provocations like this, followed by responses.
And I think there is now the opportunity to take a quantum leap upwards in the progress
towards peace by completely eliminating—which Israel is about halfway to having done already,
by the way—the premier terrorist operation in the world.
And if Hamas is eliminated, it will then be possible to deal with people who are prepared
to acknowledge the existence and rightful existence of Israel as a Jewish state, and
the state for the Palestinians that have been waiting for them for 25 years would then be
Now, it won't be the expulsion or subjugation of the Jews or the massacre of the Jews.
It will be the existence of Israel and, beside it, a Palestinian state.
And I absolutely do not understand why a man of Richard Haass' intelligence and experience can't see that.
Now, as I wrote in the New York Sun, I was commenting on the the dangers that we're running into that do actually find a
proper, accurate reflection in some of the doomsday statements that are being made,
that if Biden is reelected and this administration is reelected, and we get four more
years of an open southern border, four more years of waffling and these international crises,
four more years of mismanagement of the economy and the disposable income of the average
household shrinking, it is materially going to affect America's stance in the world, the respect
in which it is held, and the de facto correlation of forces between the United States and
its principal rivals.
And it isn't just normal election year hyperbole to say four more years of this and we're really going to be in trouble.
That, in this case, is the truth.
And how much are the discontented Democrat voters of Minnesota and Michigan going to play a role on November the 5th, or are these just noises and clattering right now?
Well, I think clearly they are a factor, and those two states have, I think, 25 or 26 electoral votes between them.
But I think it's part of the larger problem that the powers that be in the Democratic Party opened the doors and windows of that party to the extremists, to the anti-white racists, the partisans of terrorist attacks on Israel.
echelon of American society in the so-called summer of love of 2020, when the peaceful
protests did $2 billion of damage and killed scores of people, and the Democratic response
was to defund the police in the great cities that they governed.
And once they welcomed those people in, the BLM frauds and so on, I don't mean authentic
people who don't like violence against blacks.
None of us want violence against anybody, but—you know, the frauds, the racists and
the anti-American authors and promoters of the theory that it was a corrupt, slaveholding
society from the start, and any mythos of American raison d'etre and national destiny
that's more benign than that is just a whitewash.
Once they let those people crowd into their party, the— They've made it impossible to throw them out in an election year.
So the Democrats are trying to ride two different horses.
Yeah, they've made their bed and now they have to lie in it until November the 5th at least.
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Eric prints me off these sheets.
You can tell the nuns never taught me how to write nicely.
And I put on the guests for the day.
Here I put the topics I want to talk about.
This is what we tweet out.
This is what we put in the live stream.
And then at the bottom I have my notes for individual guests as they come up.
Okay?
I'm going to just throw all that out the window.
I'm going to do a Nancy Pelosi and rip it up.
Because I need to deal with my producer.
My executive!
Get it right, Gawker.
He's not just a producer, he's an... I don't know if you have a briefcase, because executives have to have briefcases, right?
Eric, who do you think the best executive producer in radio is?
That would be, for those watching on the Rumble stream, that would be the guy sitting behind me, Mr. G. Okay.
Guy, do you agree?
I mean, you can say anybody.
In the whole of radio, you can say anybody.
There will be no, I guarantee you, I swear right now, there will be no negative penalty if you say that it's, you know, Bo Snurdley who used to work for Rush Limbaugh.
Who is it, Guy?
Your microphone, you gotta bend it down.
Oh, sorry.
The microphone's on his head.
Okay, go ahead.
I agree with Eric.
So you think it's Mr. G?
Yes.
Alex, you're the last guy.
Who's the best producer, executive producer, with a briefcase and radio?
Mr. G. Okay.
I was hoping you'd, I didn't, there's no pressure, I was hoping you'd say that.
I'm gonna boast earnestly, Liv.
He didn't have a choice because his boss lived in Florida.
Okay?
Don't you... The bar steward just stole my thunder.
I'm the guy in front of the microphone and he thinks he gets to steal my thunder.
So we're going to talk about behind the scenes here because that man, my executive producer, who truly is the best producer in radio in his political sense, it's like freaky.
I mean, he can sniff.
A rhino from about 4,000 yards away.
And I mean a political rhino.
He likes Florida.
And it's like, Eric, what are we going to do with a guy who wants to move to Florida?
I don't know, maybe we gotta just get, worst case scenario, we gotta see that a new governor gets elected, so DeSantis is out and then there'll be less incentive to move to a state like Florida.
I mean, I'm sorry, I've told my wife, and I've been to Florida a lot, I was at Mar-a-Lago last week, I spent a lot of time with U.S.
Special Forces, at SOCOM, with the U.S.
Herbert Field Air Force Special Operations School.
A lot.
Hulbert Field, okay, very familiar to me.
Destin, sadly far too familiar for me.
Florida, and if you take this personally, I'm sorry, is where old people go to die.
Especially rich old people who are full of Botox.
And I've told my wife, if I ever say I want to move to Florida, you have my permission to shoot me.
So, Mr. G, Putting everything aside about your reputation in radio, your political skills, how happy a chap you are.
Why Florida?
Let's see here.
You can sit outside every night if you want and smoke a cigar because the weather's better.
You're by the beach.
You could do more things.
You can be outside all the time.
It doesn't get cold.
It doesn't get snow.
The people are better.
The people are nicer.
The people are better looking because of the Botox.
Let me just keep going on.
Yes, there we go.
No state income tax.
See?
See Eric?
He let it out.
He tried to wrap it up and hide it in all this other garbage about blah blah blah this and cigars and that.
The snow.
Did you hear?
He gave it up.
The man who hates snow.
I love snow!
Snow is happiness!
It makes the swamp look clean!
It's a thing from your childhood!
It's... We now know, Eric, it's the snow.
He only likes Florida because there's no snow.
The truth will come out eventually, and so it has in this case as well today.
Let me warn you about one thing.
This show ain't going to Florida.
That's all I'm saying.
This show, we may be stuck in this swamp because that's the heart of the political machinations of our Republic.
Not a big fan of DC, that's why I live in the Commonwealth.
Oh, did I?
Alex, have I mentioned today that my wife is the chair of the Fairfax County GOP, the largest county in this Commonwealth of Virginia?
I think this is the first time today, and I think we need a sticker here.
Yeah!
Oh yeah!
Yes!
Okay, we're gonna cover up the trumped DeSantis sticker 2024, at least the DeSantis part of it.
This man has been suffering for over a year now.
Anytime he's on screen, that massive bumper sticker on the back of his monitor, that's a fair comment.
I'll give you my Katie Gore.
I didn't mention in the first hour, how remiss of me, how outrageous.
My wife, who hates politics, Because she's normal.
As of Saturday.
Smoked the opposition!
68 points to 28.
Yeah, talking about you, Tony Sabio.
And she is now the chair of the Fairfax County GOP.
Wow.
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I'll mention one more thing, too, besides hurricanes.
I've seen more than enough viral videos of this, Jeff, I don't care.
I don't want to move to a state where I could suddenly find an alligator in my swimming pool one day.
Yeah, alligators are creepy.
What about a beach house in Florida?
You can have the best of both worlds.
He doesn't like the beach.
I like forests and mountains.
Ooh, yeah, I disagree.
That's right.
I think that might be why I like Florida.
They don't have mountains, but... I like the beach.
Yeah.
And there are forests you can't go in because it's the Everglades.
I love... That's why New Hampshire... I actually... I...
When we drive to West Virginia and you crest the hill and the sign comes up West Virginia just before the F Biden flag on the first house you see, it's like my soul, my soul is just lighter.
But do you ever go there in the winter?
Yeah, sure.
And I like the cold.
I love the cold.
Yeah, I did fall in love with West Virginia when I visited my buddy there.
Oh, how was the trip?
Oh, it was wonderful.
It was the rolling countryside, the hills, and my buddy kept saying, dude, it's a shame you're not here when the trees are in bloom.
You should see when it's in bloom.
I'm like, I don't even care.
The trees are brown.
It still looks gorgeous.
We went to a place called Cooper's Rock.
Beautiful, like, overview of, like, the valley, the river way down there, like, near Cheat Lake, just at sunset.
It was gorgeous.
I'm like, I said to him, I'm like, buddy, stop trying to convince me to move to West Virginia because I will.
What are you like, Guy?
Are you a forest guy or a beach guy?
What are you?
Yes, sir.
When I lived in Florida for college, I always wanted to move out of there.
Ha!
Another man of great sense.
Where in Florida did you go to college?
Miami.
University of Miami for a year, and then I moved to University of South Florida in Tampa.
Tampa, you poor bastard.
Poor, poor bastard.
My best friend from high school went to What about you, Alex?
Are you a mountains guy or a beach guy?
What are you?
of it but it was somewhere in the Florida panhandle and he didn't realize it. He's like,
oh yeah, Florida, Orlando, Miami, Disney World. He gets to where he's gonna be doing his training.
He's like, well, I didn't know that I'd basically be going to Alabama.
Yeah, I was gonna say that's just like the South. The panhandle.
The panhandle, yeah, the panhandle. What about you, Alex?
Are you a mountains guy or a beach guy?
What are you? Alex, headphones.
He's a Florida guy.
He's from Florida.
Nah, nah, nah.
Don't talk for him.
Okay, you may be his boss, but he can talk for himself.
He's a grown man.
He's a grown-ass man.
Are you a beach guy, a forest guy, a mountain guy?
What are you?
Probably mountain, but I love the beach.
But I love the beach.
So good.
I want the best of both worlds.
And Florida's almost like a mini country.
You have so many different places you can go.
You mean a mini shithole?
One of those countries.
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This is your show.
So, I have to ask you, because you've been, how many years in total have you been doing radio now, Mr. G?
On and off, too many.
Not in Florida, zero.
But I think, like, fifteen.
Fifteen?
So five here, and then another ten?
Yeah.
I'm curious, because I don't do this often, but when we have, like, arguments like we just did, and we have, like, discussions about stuff that isn't political, although, you know Florida's run by DeSantis, Jeff, you know that, right?
No, I like him as a governor.
I just don't think he can win an election against Trump in the primary.
What do you think about when we do stuff like that?
I find it enjoyable.
What do you think?
I think it's good every now and then, to mix it up.
As long as it's not sci-fi.
It's got to be your topic.
But this kind of relates because the last two years, one of the biggest trends we've seen, people are moving to Florida for political reasons.
We spoke about the non-political reasons to move.
Right.
So it fits.
Yeah, yeah.
All of those reasons are wrong.
All the non-political reasons, by the way.
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Robert, welcome to America First.
Robert!
I know we've clicked the thing because I can see it.
It's changed from green to white.
So you should talk now.
Can you hear me, Robert?
Maybe he should call back.
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My latest piece that just went up on my substack is concerning something that was mentioned here by our friend Rich Minita.
It is about the unaccountable elite class.
And I want you to hear what that sounds like.
There's somebody called Janet Yellen, who is the Secretary of the Treasury.
Jeff, this is another real cut, right?
You know this is real, this isn't AI, this isn't a deepfake, right?
You disagree with something she says here?
Yeah, yeah, I do.
I think she's spot on.
That's Jeff's idea of humor.
Okay, so this is the woman who's responsible for the economy at the Treasury, and she says what she's asked about how Americans are doing.
Listen to this elitist cutthroat.
I think we've got a good, strong economy.
We've got very strong domestic demand.
Consumers are holding up.
Some low-income consumers are perhaps exhausting their buffers of saving that they built up during the pandemic.
We're seeing a little bit more distress at the household level there.
But generally, households are in very good financial shape.
Our financial system is generally Quite strong.
Households across America are generally in very fine financial shape.
What was that figure, Jeff, recently that we saw?
What was it reported?
Most households can't afford, what is it, a $400 emergency?
Was that right?
Yeah, I think it's like 40 or 45%.
It was something like that.
They can't, you know, they don't have $500 cash in the bank.
Yeah, and yesterday we saw that groceries are up 40% since 2019.
What is the right way to take a cut like that?
I mean, you found it.
It sounds like she actually believes it, Jeff.
I think they're just going to keep repeating this over and over again.
No, you're wrong.
No, you weren't doing better under Trump.
Things are fine now.
They're just going to keep hammering it away.
And is it going to work?
I don't think so.
Jeff, Eric, does she believe what she just said?
I think deep down inside she knows it's garbage, but like Jeff said, we've said it on the show so many times, gaslighting.
They think if they just keep repeating, oh no, the economy's great, the economy's great, the economy's great, they think a lot of Americans will just go, oh yeah, I guess it is great, you know, this is just the new normal.
They think it's gonna work as a gaslighting tactic, I think.
But when they have to think twice about what they're buying at the grocery store, because this product, you know, if I buy too much meat, I won't have enough money To pay, and I'll just get, you know, some, what is it that financial guy says all the time, Jeff?
Beans and rice, beans and rice.
Who's that guy?
Yeah, Dave Ramsey.
Dave Ramsey.
And even another thing, there was a headline yesterday that people are actually skipping meals to be able to afford their rent.
And Janet Yellen says, generally, most households in America are doing really financially very well.
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Mm-hmm.
See, apparently the Arizona Supreme Court just allowed for a near total abortion ban.
Arizona?
Apparently, yeah.
That's the breaking news.
Let me see.
Jeff, can you send three, four, and eight?
Oh, we can do that?
Yeah.
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T up eight, alrighty.
I'd block the lines.
Alright.
Block the lines.
Alright.
What do you want to say?
Rules that a near total abortion ban from 1864 is enforceable.
Wow.
Can you come up with breaking news and then Eric, you'll just tell us that?
Sending you a link, yes.
I'm not sure what I'm doing here.
I'm just going to play a little bit of the game.
I'm going to play a little bit of the game.
With breaking news, here's Sebastian Gorka.
Big decision out of Arizona, Eric.
What just happened?
From NBC News, the Arizona Supreme Court ruled today that a 160-year-old near-total abortion ban, this was passed in 1864 when Lincoln was still around, ruled that that law is indeed enforceable as a state law from 160 years ago.
Basically re-enact this law that previously was not being enforced in the state of Arizona.
Wow, wow, wow.
Just as the president said at the top of the show, sending the issue back to the states.
Let's go to your calls.
Derek in Cleveland, line one.
Thank you, Dr. G. So I wanted to ask, have you ever covered the subject of jury nullification on your show, Dr. Gorka?
I have not.
Why?
You know, it's something that I've I think it's worth discussing.
As far as my understanding, with the way the founders set up the checks and balances in this country, the last check, if you will, was always left with the people in the form of the grand jury, and that's jury nullification.
I think most people don't understand the power The true power of the juror is not to decide, it's basically to decide whether the, whatever law... Yeah, whether a law is unjust, correct.
Yeah, that's the essence of jury nullification.
Yeah, I just thought, you know, I think... But what's the reference right now?
Why do you want us to talk about it now?
I just, you know, it's something that I haven't heard discussed.
Yeah, but why do you want it to be discussed?
Why?
Well, because at this point, because we're always the main discussion is how are we going to take the country back?
And again, just as far as my understanding, that was always the last check was always left right there in the grand jury when, you know, issues like with Donald Trump, if he's ever allowed.
But it doesn't matter because in D.C.
the jury hates him.
Right?
Right.
Doesn't matter.
94% of DC voted for Biden, right?
So jury nullification only works when you're not, you know, a jury full of lunatics.
Andrew, Virginia, line two.
Yes, sir.
I'm wondering about get-out-the-vote efforts, particularly in rural America.
There are some stats that say that people that live further out voted about half the propensity of people in urban areas.
Activating voters is very simple.
Scott Pressler, Scott Pressler, Scott Pressler.
We need more like him, and I'm super excited that Lara Trump has invited him to meet her in DC just a week ago, and that man, he is registering Republicans, he is mobilizing Republicans.
That's what we need.
Andrew, you and everyone listening to this show, you need to be more like Scott Pressler, because you're right.
Patriots don't vote enough.
Not enough of us.
If all patriots in America got activated and engaged, it would be a flipping cakewalk on November 5th.
All right, what's the truth about Biden, Israel, the Middle East, Hamas, the Jew haters in the DNC?
We're going to talk to the one and only Caroline Glick here on America First next.
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And this is a wake-up call, not only for Israel, not only for the Jewish community, this is a wake-up call for all of you.
All of you here, all of America, all of Europe.
You are next.
You are next.
And we should do everything that we can to stop these atrocities.
Jonathan Lulu Shamaris, the brother of one of the hostages taken by Hamas six months ago, speaking here in America with a very, very stern warning.
You are next.
We still have Americans.
Imprisoned.
Captive.
Under the arms of the terrorist organization that is Hamas.
What is America doing?
America is turning her back on our best friend in the region.
Why?
And what will it mean?
Well, I'm honored to have in studio a woman who has been a warrior for the truth for years now.
I'm honored to have known her for many, many years.
And she's in DC right now to try and wake the rest of America up.
She is the Senior Contributing Editor for the Jewish News Syndicate, the author of numerous works including The Israeli Solution and also Shackled Warrior.
Carolyn Glick, welcome to America First.
Thanks.
It's such a pleasure to be here in your studio, Sebastian.
Well, it's wonderful to have you here.
I am kind of mortified that we are in the sixth, seventh month of this tragedy, and to witness what the American government is doing.
Before we get to that, can you give us an update?
How is Israel doing?
How is the Prime Minister doing?
And most importantly, the IDF, the members of the IDF?
So, from an operational perspective, we have defeated Hamas as a conventional military except in one place, which is the city of Rafah, which is a strategic zone.
It's the border town with Egypt that controls the international border between Gaza and Egypt.
And just as we were about to go in, essentially, the United States told us to stop.
And so we're kind of in this holding position, trying to get through the American obstacle so that we can go and win the end of the conventional phase of the war.
Throughout the rest of Gaza, we're already in a much lower intensity battle,
where we're doing mainly counter-terrorist operations against specific terrorist cells that are operating
or terrorist strongholds, like we saw in Shifa Hospital in the northern Gaza Strip, which Israel had taken over.
And then the Hamas terrorists, operating under the humanitarian assistance
that the Americans are demanding that Israel enable, re-entered Gaza City, re-seated.
And so we killed 200 terrorists in that so-called hospital complex a couple of weeks ago, and we
arrested over 500 terrorists.
So this is.
This is the kind of battle that we're going to be facing in the years to come throughout Gaza, but we still have to end the conventional phase of the high-intensity warfare with Hamas having four or five remaining standing battalions hold up in Rafah with much of their leadership there as well.
So that's the order of business right now, and we're waiting for that to happen.
And, you know, we're facing a lot of different sort of saturation bombing from all over in terms of international Betrayal of Israel at this hour, but the public right now is waiting to see that we're moving forward and there's a sense of frustration and concern that we may snatch defeat from the jaws of victory here if we don't proceed on and remain on offensive.
So there's a lot of concern about that among the Israeli public.
Concerns about their own government or concerns that the United States will get in the way of you doing what has to be done?
Because I'm sure Israelis follow American politics closely, but was there any reaction?
Did they catch that moment after the State of the Union?
Where Biden said to a Democrat, he didn't realize his mic was on and he says, Bibi has to have a come to Jesus moment when it concerns the ceasefire.
What's the worry?
Is the worry with us or with Israel?
The worry is with the United States.
The worry is with the United States that the Biden administration has now really come forward and revealed that its strategic goal here is antithetical not only to Israeli victory but really given the stakes in this war.
To Israel's survival over time.
If the Biden administration's position actually comes to its natural conclusion, then Israel's survival will be very much in question because the Biden administration wants to maintain Hamas's control over Gaza by preventing them from being eradicated.
And you know terrorists, all they need is to survive in order to rebuild.
And the United States is also really siding with Iran in its larger regional war against Israel,
whether it's vis-a-vis the Houthis in the Red Sea or Hezbollah in Lebanon or the Shiite militias in Iraq,
Jordan, and Syria that Iran controls, or Iran itself that's speeding towards a nuclear arsenal.
And in all of these things, the United States' response is to try to put out fires.
They just gave Iran another $10 billion in cold, hard cash that they can use
continue to fund these wars.
Yeah.
And what is life like in Israel?
Has the massacre of the innocents on October 7th, does it hang like a cloud over everyday life?
I mean, the Israeli people are very, very resilient.
I mean, since 1948, this is not the first time that they've been attempting to destroy you.
But is this different now?
It's very different, because October 7th showed us what the end looks like.
You know, we've always known what war looks like in Israel, but we never knew what defeat looked like.
And October 7th was... We saw what it means when they say that they want to kill us all, that this is how they want to kill us all, and that they really mean it.
And so I think that realization that they're serious has really changed the way that Israelis view our position.
And it's also why there's such a sense of urgency among the Israeli public to finish the job
and eradicate Hamas.
Because it's true that we're being attacked from multiple fronts simultaneously.
But it's also true that it was Hamas and the Palestinians of Gaza that invaded Israel on October 7
and carried out the atrocities that day.
And if they're not seen very obviously to have been completely defeated and annihilated in this
war, then that guarantees that we're going
to face another October 7 and another October 7 coming from all different fronts.
And the threats aren't theoretical.
I mean, they're very much right there, and they're manifesting themselves now in lower-level operations along all of Israel's borders.
Now, domestically, especially, I mean, it always has been since 1948, since the rebirth of Israel, but especially after the end of the Cold War, politically Israel was an incredibly heterogeneous society, with Jews from all over the planet, making for a very variegated political culture.
And of course, a very divided one prior to October the 7th, with the arguments against the Constitutional Court and the attacks against the Prime Minister.
Has that all changed?
Have these various splinters come together because of the renewed emphasis on the existential threat you're surrounded by?
For the vast majority of Israelis, the rancor that characterized the country ahead of October 7th with the fight over the judicial reforms that the Netanyahu government sought to enact and then was met by fierce opposition from the left and from Israel's deep state, that sort of fell by the wayside because people recognized what we were facing and that we had to defeat this enemy.
But what we found is that there is a hard core of of leftists who now it appears that they're working very closely with the administration and they're all guided by the same underlying belief that Hamas is a secondary threat and that the main one is Benjamin Netanyahu.
And so you have a small minority of Israelis who think that the most urgent order of business is not to defeat the enemy.
In fact, by their own telling, they're willing to accept defeat at the hands of Hamas because they believe that that
would foment the collapse of Netanyahu's government and oust him from power.
So we're talking about a pathology at this point. It's not a rational
calculation.
Now they comprise a very small group of Israelis.
Unfortunately they're very wealthy.
Are they loud?
Very loud, very well connected.
They have the support of three quarters of Israel's television stations and probably
more radio stations and the daily newspapers.
So they're trumpeting this idea that we would have a hostage deal already if it weren't
for Netanyahu blocking it.
And the only reason that Netanyahu is blocking a hostage deal is because he wants to remain
in power and he doesn't want the war to end.
But of course, as George Orwell said, the fastest way to end a war is to lose it.
And the hostage deal that's now on the table is essentially a deal that would require Israel to end its offensive operations, allow Hamas to emerge victorious, and release 900 terrorists, including 100 murderers from our jail.
So these are things that are very difficult to swallow because the implications for the public is very clear.
It's also not clear how many of the hostages have survived this long in captivity.
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She's no longer the Speaker of the House, but she won't keep her gob shut.
Nancy Pelosi also weighing in on the events of October the 7th.
October 7th was barbaric.
It was horrible what they did to the Israeli people and the rest.
Hamas is a terrorist organization.
We need to free the hostages, all of the hostages.
Nearly 33,000 people dying, people starving, hydration, famine and the rest.
There has to be a better way.
She had a Biden moment there.
She was about to say 33 million people dying in Gaza.
She said 33,000.
Caroline, I've got to ask you this because this is what my friend Chris Plant calls the left's information dominance.
When Joe Rogan, who has the biggest podcast platform on the planet, talks about the 30,000 innocent people killed in Gaza, this is a figure From Hamas, from the Hamas health ministry.
So from the terrorist, I mean it's kind of ironic, the terrorist health ministry.
Can you comment on how mass media across the globe and the former Speaker of the House just, oh yeah, what the terrorists said is true.
Right.
I find it appalling.
And I just want to say one more thing.
Israel's army is a citizen's army.
Those are our sons.
Those are the boys that we raised to adulthood.
They're not murderers.
And so from our perspective, it's not some sort of a theoretical, oh, they're mean, or oh, they're evil, or oh, they're...
They're talking about your kids.
They're talking about our children.
And it's a total lie and a slander.
And that's one of the things they also don't understand.
They think that we're going to be embarrassed when they put out these lies about our military.
They have another thing coming.
We know exactly who our soldiers are because we raised them.
And so when they say things like that, when Joe Rogan said such an ignorant, stupid, obnoxious and mean-hearted thing, you know, he was maligning our kids.
And unlike the Palestinians, we raise our children to love life and to view life as sacred.
They raise their children from the age of nothing to the day they die to sanctify death.
That's what they do.
And I know the IDF.
I've worked with the IDF.
You are the most, I would say, of all the militaries I've worked with, and I've trained from at least 30, 40 countries over my career, the most legally constrained fighting force. I mean I've met with your lawyers in
uniform and you are so scrupulous in making sure that you don't have collateral, you know, civilian
casualties and to say this, this is the army of citizen soldiers that is committing quote-unquote
genocide. I mean let's talk about this figure that oh my gosh there's starvation. Somebody
did the math yesterday, I love this, they added up all the aid that has flown into Gaza in the
last six months and they said that food could feed the whole population of Gaza and the West Bank
for more than a year. So how are people starving if they've got food?
That is double their requirements.
Could it be that maybe Hamas is stealing it, Caroline?
It's not just that it's being stolen.
It's that we're being subjected to an all-out campaign of slander, demonization, and delegitimization.
You know, I love it the way that former Speaker Pelosi was talking about how horrible the atrocities were, and that Hamas is a terrorist organization.
But, you know, she won't Support anything that Jewish people do in order to prevent that from happening again?
If it was so terrible, then why are you undermining Israel's efforts, our just war, our moral cause, to protect our people and to get our hostages free?
She says she wants all of the hostage freed?
Then why does she keep empowering Hamas?
Why is she supporting Hamas by saying that she wants to, you know, cut off arms shipments to Israel?
Who's going to be, who's going to be, who's going to be helped by that?
Hamas.
Who's going to be helped by that?
All the people that she claims to find appalling and horrible, and yet she's saying no, you can't actually war against them.
I mean, there's nothing true about the allegations that are made against Israel.
But let's go back to just this one point, and you made it personal immediately because of your family and their involvement in the defense of the nation.
But let's just focus on this as a journalist.
Right.
The idea that the terrorist group says once, oh, 30,000 civilians killed, and it becomes the talking point of the mainstream media across America.
The former Speaker of the House regurgitates it.
Joe Rogan regurgitates it.
I mean, at some point, you have to doff your cap and say, these guys are really good at propaganda.
No, it's not that they're that great at propaganda.
It's that you have a... The journalists are so stupid?
No, you have a willing audience.
You have people who want to believe the worst about Israel.
You have people who want to pretend that the problem lays with Israel because that solves all the hard policymaking that you'd have to do if the problem really is much bigger than Israel, and Israel is actually the victim here and is fighting your fight.
If you can blame the victim, if you can say that it was all Israel brought it on by itself by some imaginary occupation which ended in Gaza completely 18, 19 years ago now, Then you don't actually have to do anything.
You don't have to be worried about the problem.
You don't have to close your southern border.
You don't have to protect your own homeland because you're saying that the problem lies only with the Jewish state.
And if they just stood down, everything would be fine.
We don't have a problem with radical Islam that calls death to America every morning, noon, and night in Iran.
No, everything's fine.
No threat whatsoever.
This is all about the Jews, and they're responsible.
And we like them when they're dead, because then they're perfect victims.
But if they stand up for themselves and try to make sure that they're... That oppresses.
Yeah, then we're oppressors, and we're committing genocide.
All of the threat, all of the crimes that are carried out against us are projected onto us, and we're accused of them.
I mean, Joe Rogan, you know, I love him sometimes.
He's funny.
He's the kind of guy you listen to, and you're like, well, I would really like to have a beer with that guy.
He's cool, right?
But then he says this and is pure poison.
Like, how did that happen?
What happened to him that he could come away with this idea that the state of Israel, the only liberal democracy in the Middle East, would ever even think about doing anything we're accused of?
It's crazy.
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They are the home of institutionalized Jew hatred and self-hatred.
If you listen to Chuck Schumer, the most senior Democrat in the Senate, I guess he doesn't
want Israelis to pick their own prime minister.
Play cut.
Israel is a democracy.
At this critical juncture, I believe a new election is the only way to allow for a healthy and open decision-making process about the future of Israel.
I don't care who you are in Israel, I don't think you're happy with having Americans at the floor of the Senate tell you who your Prime Minister should be.
Caroline, your reaction?
I think that what Schumer did was appalling.
And you know, as a Jewish person, if he wants to, he can claim a right of citizenship in Israel just as all Jews can in the world, and then he can come and he can vote in the Israeli elections.
Because we're a democracy, and everybody who's a citizen can vote, including Arabs, including Christians, including Muslims, including everybody.
So, you know, I don't understand why he thinks that it's an acceptable move to tell Israelis what we should do in the middle of a war.
But again, it goes back to undervaluing or underestimating or just not understanding, refusing to recognize what kind of war we're facing.
This is a war for our survival.
And I mean, it's just so trivial, all of these things.
Can you walk us through this one thing that boggles my mind?
That in the 20th century, The Holocaust is a milestone.
And the idea that that's within living memory, there are survivors of that today.
But now Israel is deemed to be an oppressor by the left.
You've been charting these issues for decades.
When did that switch occur?
Was it Israel became too successful as a state after 1948?
Was it the critical race theory, left-wing radicalism of the last decade?
When did Israel go from being the nation of people almost wiped out by the Nazis to being the oppressor?
You know, it's a really interesting question.
I think that you have to date the beginning of it to the end of the Six-Day War in 1967, because two things happened in that war.
I mean, people like Nancy Pelosi are always happy to cry about Jews who are dead, but they don't like the idea of Jews being powerful and strong and free.
And so in 1967, Israel gave a whoopin' to all of the Arab countries that came together and tried to invade us and throw us into the sea.
And we weren't supposed to succeed that well.
So you had the Europeans just turn tail on Israel that were our biggest supporters, the French, the Dutch and others.
And suddenly they started attacking us.
De Gaulle attacked us.
I think he said we were pushy.
I can't remember.
It was sort of the first mainstreaming of anti-Semitism after the Holocaust.
So that was the first thing.
And also the Soviets So you only get sympathy if you're dead, as a Jew?
Right.
Everybody loves dead Jews.
But then Russia, the Soviet Union, cut off ties with Israel after the war.
And when that happened, all of the communist parties in the West became immediately anti-Israel.
In fact, the communist party in America that had a lot of Jews who were pro-Israel split.
And a lot of Jews left, because they were like, wait a minute, we didn't sign on for this.
But the vast majority and then you know to the extent that that became the Democratic Socialists of America and began getting more and more mainstream in this country and in Europe, that was when you started seeing the real transformation of the left.
So you were too successful in beating the Arab nations who wanted to destroy you and therefore the narrative had to flip.
Right, because then the Jewish state is only good when we need other people and when everybody feels bad for us and says, oh, poor little Israel, we're so sorry for you.
The minute that we were a lion of Judah and began to roar, they didn't bargain for that.
Yeah, you're fine as a pet, as a little pet, but when you stand... We can be one big refugee camp, but the homeland of the Jewish people?
That's why we love Caroline.
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And what?
Oh, JNS, sorry.
JNS, the Jewish News Syndicate.
JNS.org, where she is the Senior Contributing Editor.
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And I'm not suggesting that Hamas deliberately did it either.
It's that old thing, you gotta learn how to shoot straight.
You've got to learn how to shoot straight?
The commanding chief of the greatest nation on God's green earth says that the Hamas terrorists have got to learn to shoot straight?
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we had an amazing tour of the city of David beneath Jerusalem, and our tour guide, who I'm
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because he knew I worked in the Trump White House, and he said, do you have any idea what it's like
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Because for four years you loved us, now for four years you're helping our enemies.
We think you're a bunch of schizophrenics in America.
Does Israel understand what's happened in the White House?
Do they get it that it's not Americans, it's the rot of the left?
We do get it, but the fact is that, I mean, I think what this shows us more than anything else is that we have to limit our strategic dependence on the United States, because, you know, we're market takers, we're not market makers here.
And I think that it actually, you know, our need for strategic independence also jibes very well with the Trump doctrine, which is be good to your allies and bad to your enemies, because then people will want to be your allies, and more to the point, If the United States wants to disengage from the Middle East and all of the wars of our region, I mean, Trump left with the region at peace because he had followed his own doctrine, and he was fantastic to America's allies and terrible to Iran and its... Well, and Abraham Accords, and Ambassador Friedman... All of that happened.
because of the intuition that Trump has, which is, if you want to disengage,
then your allies have the same enemies as you do, and if they can fight them on their own
with America's support, then you don't have to.
And that's the whole concept of the U.S.-Israel alliance.
And what we're seeing now is another administration came in, and the first thing that Biden set out to do
his first day already when he took the Houthis off the list of foreign terrorist organizations,
piece by piece, he has destroyed everything on purpose that Trump accomplished because he doesn't...
because he follows the exact opposite ideal.
That you're bad to your friends and you're good to your enemies because then maybe your enemies will see that you're not serious and they'll be nice to you.
It's a crazy doctrine, but it is his.
It's what I said when I was in the White House.
I said it publicly.
I borrowed it from the Marine Corps when I was asked, so what's the President's national security posture?
I said, very easy.
No better friend, no worse enemy.
Exactly.
Now, you're a scholar of these issues.
You've written works such as The Israeli Solution and Shackled Warrior.
So I feel comfortable asking the impolitic question, the rude question that you're not supposed to ask.
Let's put this headline up.
This is what nobody will mention.
More than 70% of Gazans are in favour of the slaughter of the innocents on October 7th.
There's no solution to this.
There's no solution to this unless Israel controls that territory until the end of time.
If Egypt builds a wall and doesn't want these people, if Jordan doesn't want these people, well I'm not surprised because 70% of them are fine with what I saw on that film.
Young boys being killed, men being decapitated with blunt garden hose.
They're fine with that.
Caroline, there is no diplomatic, political, economic solution to this, is there?
No, I mean, this is a military problem.
It's a sociological problem.
It's a problem of barbarism.
And the truth of the matter is that the way you handle something like that is that you scatter it.
Because they're all together, they're all steeped in the same stew of hatred.
And the United States has blocked the one thing that would enable them to get out from under this, which is to allow them to leave.
And the United States, first thing that they did practically after October 7th was they insisted that nobody is allowed to leave Gaza, which is amazing because you remember with the Ukraine war that the first thing that the Biden administration did was it bore down both on Congress and also on U.S.
allies in Europe that they have to take Ukrainians and that's what they did
with the Syrians and that's what they did with the Iraqis and with everybody
else.
Only the people of Gaza have to stay there and they're all Israel's problem.
We have to take care of them. It's a pretty and an amazing thing.
It's really an amazing thing.
Just this one thing that others have observed but it bears repeating.
Why is it that Biden, the Democrats, the mainstream media, the chattering classes,
the so-called elite say, oh, there has to be a ceasefire.
Israel has to stop shooting!
But in Ukraine, I haven't heard any call for ceasefire.
So strange.
Far, far more people have been killed on both sides of that conflict.
Hmm, that's just fine.
Maybe it has to do with Hunter Biden's former business partners.
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First, there's one condition.
One condition for anything that could happen and the good things that could happen once this war is over.
And that condition is that Hamas must be destroyed.
For you classicists out there, Bibi was, uh, borrowing from a prior conflict.
Cartago de Lendas!
Carthage must be destroyed.
And it's true.
So must Hamas.
We are back for the last few moments with our fabulous friend of the Jewish News Syndicate contributing, senior editor.
She has a website, carolynglick.com.
And a podcast as well.
Caroline, I've got to ask you this because I keep hearing from my Jewish friends that they've woken up.
The secular Jews now get it and they're not going to vote for the Democrats because they know the home of Jew hatred is the Democrat Party.
I'm not sure I'm so convinced.
I know our Orthodox friends, 93, 94 percent are going to vote for President Trump and bring the greatest philo-semite since 1948 back into the White House.
What is your message?
First, you buy this.
They've woken up.
And if you don't, you're talking to millions of people across the nation.
What is your message to Jewish Americans who vote Democrat?
I mean, some of the people who vote Democrat who are Jewish see themselves first and foremost as progressives or liberals and not as Jews.
But I think that what's happened since October 7th is that American Jews have been suffering from the largest onslaught of anti-Semitism in this country they've ever seen.
So will that wake them up?
I think that it's beginning to dawn on a lot of people.
I know that I have some acquaintances, I wouldn't even say friends because we've been in such disagreement about politics for so long, or suddenly posting things on Facebook about, I'm done with the Democratic Party.
These are people you'd never think.
But it's a question of whether they see the world first as Jews or first as liberals or progressives.
And I think that the ones who have children who are on campuses or grandchildren or themselves are on campuses and being attacked physically and harassed everywhere they go, I think that that's a big wake-up call for them.
And really, the elite institutions that Jews have always aspired to be members of,
they're the ones who have become most institutionally anti-Semitic.
So there's a sense of true betrayal for many, many Jews that you would have never expected.
I think in states like Nevada, Georgia, and Pennsylvania, where you have the margin of errors in 16 and 20
were much smaller than the Jewish population, that the Jews of those swing states
can end up being very, very pivotal in the election results.
So it's not just Muslims who's called death to America in Dearborn, Michigan.
It's also Jews who say, I'm Israel High in Pennsylvania in the suburbs of Philadelphia that really
should be looked to for keys to the election results.
May you be right.
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