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April 5, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka

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	you You
	You You
	you 1984 I decided to register as a Democrat
	Thank you.
	I was a Christian, member of the Roman Catholic Church, and I was proud of that.
	And I was pro-life.
	2016, I decided to run for the legislature.
	Christian, member of the Roman Catholic Church, pro-life, pro-union, pro-Second Amendment.
	Wanted to see how we could grow our state and reduce property taxes at the same time.
	All those things you taught door-to-door.
	That you believe in.
	As a process we've gone through down here as Senators, I've tried to stick with those principles.
	That has not changed for me.
	I asked the Democratic Party, Douglas County, to respect that I'm pro-life.
	That I'm a member of the Roman Catholic Church.
	And my beliefs are based on that.
	Douglas County Democrats, instead of respecting it, they decided to punish it.
	They said you cannot participate, you can't be a delegate.
	We're not going to share our party resources.
	I continue to vote pro-life.
	The state Democratic Party decided to censure me.
	I continue to vote pro-life.
	This is not an easy decision.
	After 40 years of being a registered Democrat, Having your grandfather tell you when you're ten years old, what are we?
	We're Irish, we're Catholic, and we're Democrats.
	That kind of stuck with me.
	And we had many discussions after that that a lot of things he tried to teach me didn't stick.
	We're Irish, we're Catholic, and we're Democrats.
	Not anymore he's not, Nebraska State Senator Mike McDonald.
	Becoming a registered Republican.
	My oh my.
	And it will reverberate through the state.
	Eric will explain that to us later because lots of interesting things happening in Nebraska.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker and it's great to be back In the chair.
	Sorry I had to go to Mar-a-Lago yesterday, but it was absolutely fabulous.
	I've been there several times.
	This was the biggest event of its kind.
	We had 800 people around the pool, 800 listening to the president, then 800 people squished into the ballroom for the one and only Tom Homan's launch gala for his Border 9-1-1 organization.
	An organization that will take the message of what Biden has wrought to this nation across the republic and to convince those who maybe don't get it yet, that irrespective of your political party, We are facing a catastrophe, and it must stop, and that we need a border.
	Tom Herman, of course, President Trump's Director of ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, also members of his new organization.
	The great Mark Morgan, President Trump's Commissioner for Customs and Border Patrol, Border Protection.
	And the great Sarah Carter, Others as well who understand the threat to Republic.
	Do we have some photographs of... Here we go.
	Let's... There we go.
	Sarah Carter with the President!
	Let's keep going down the line so those watching us can... Oh, there's me with the boss.
	He was on great form.
	Got to chat with him and privately with Tom, Vivek Ramaswamy and Kash Patel and the crowd.
	Oh, oh my gosh, Bernie Kerrick.
	How can I forget Bernie Kerrick and Kash Patel gave an incredible Incredible set of speeches in the ballroom.
	If you want people in the trenches next to you, I could think of none better than Tom Holman, Bernie Kerrick, Kash Patel.
	And then I think we've got, there we go, the panoramic view of the president addressing the multitude outside by the swimming pool.
	Oh, and I got to deliver Katie's brand new book.
	Next-Gen Marxism.
	What it is and how to combat it.
	Into the hands of President Trump.
	A superb evening was had by all.
	I'll give you more details.
	We're waiting for the video of the President's address.
	We'll share that with you as soon as we have it.
	But I want to thank Bob Franz.
	How did Bob do yesterday, Eric?
	Did he acquit himself admirably as our guest host?
	He did a fantastic job, as always, as a radio professional.
	Yeah, he is one of our... We have so many amazing guest hosts, but our go-to guy out of Cleveland, Bob Franz.
	I did tune in a little bit.
	I had some time to tune in, and it was absolutely superlative.
	All right, let's get to the story of the day.
	Are you ready for war?
	So, you may be familiar with my background, that before I did counter-terrorism, I did NATO issues.
	I was actually hired by the Hungarian Ministry of Defense in 1993 to assist in that former Warsaw Pact country, leaving behind the trappings of communism and joining the West once more and becoming a member of NATO, which we actually achieved just a few years later.
	Amazing achievement of the conservative regime.
	And 1999, Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic joined NATO as its first new members in decades.
	And that expansion of NATO is predicated on a couple of conditions.
	It's very simple, incredibly simple.
	In fact, the founding charter of NATO, unlike most other international organizations that have binders full of charters, is a document of a page and a half, 14 paragraphs, the Washington Treaty of April 1949.
	And it states that this is a club of nations that come together to protect each other under the principle of collective defence.
	Like, you know, the three musketeers.
	Do you remember them?
	What is the... Let's check the literary credentials of our team.
	Alex!
	Are you familiar with Alex Dumas and the three or four musketeers?
	Are you familiar with that story?
	Do you know what the motto of the King's Musketeers is?
	All for one, one for all?
	Hell, whoa!
	He was sweating there.
	I could tell.
	What is Gorka gonna do?
	Live in front of me.
	And I had faith.
	Because I have faith in my team.
	And he got it.
	He nailed it first time.
	One for all and all for one.
	Which is really NATO.
	Because Article 5 says an attack on one nation is an attack on all nations, which binds us together.
	If Russia had invaded, if the Soviet Union had invaded West Germany, Portugal, America, the UK, France would have been required to respond.
	I mean truly, it could have been called NATO or the, you know, the Musketeers Alliance.
	And in that founding document, it says any nation of this region can be a member, but only if they satisfy two conditions.
	Number one, they must be functioning democracies.
	Because it's a community of democracies.
	And number two, that nation must be able to contribute meaningfully to the collective defense of the whole alliance.
	You can't be a freeloader, you can't have, you know, be the Vatican State with, you know, three Swiss Guards and a couple of Halberds.
	You've got to have a defence force that can meaningfully contribute.
	Ukraine is not a functioning democracy.
	And it can't meaningfully contribute to the collective defence.
	It's barely surviving the onslaught of the Russian Federation, led by that Cold Stone killer, Vladimir Putin.
	And despite that, the American Secretary of State just said the following.
	Katwan Antony Blinken.
	We also held our second NATO-Ukraine Council.
	We reaffirmed that Ukraine's future is in NATO.
	Our goal now is to create a bridge to Ukraine's full membership, offering additional support and greater cooperation as Ukraine makes the reforms necessary to join the alliance.
	Don't get me wrong, I want Ukraine to kill every Russian that crosses onto their sovereign territory.
	But promising membership of NATO to the Ukraine is sheer insanity and invites a shooting war between America and Russia, two nuclear-tipped nations.
	Not our usual happy Friday opening, but hey, geopolitics, it is a cold mistress.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	INTRO I'm afraid to scare the crap out of you, Alex, but I
	thought Alex Dumas?
	It's gotta be Alex Dumas.
	It took me a moment and I remembered it too, yeah.
	Nicely done, Mr. Alex Dumas.
	That was nicely done.
	That's your name now?
	Yeah.
	Just like Rudyard Lynch's name is now Rudyard Kipling?
	I'll take it.
	Or D'Artagnan.
	D'Artagnan.
	Oh, D'Artagnan!
	I like Porthos.
	I relate to Porthos.
	Alright, I will dial up Rich now.
	Alright, do we have... what did he... I sent them the stories to you and I got buffers of both of them.
	Okay, good.
	Michigan and Pennsylvania.
	And again, I think he'd probably like to talk about how he debunked that tweet from End of Wokeness, like freaking out about voter registration.
	Oh, can you make a thingy out of that?
	Yeah, give me a second here.
	Okay, mic's on.
	Dialing Rich.
	Let me find that tweet again.
	Oh, I gotta crop it because he starts off the phrase- the tweet with holy sh-
	Let me close the door.
	Let me close the door, gentlemen!
	Thank you, Mike.
	Mics are hot, Rich, and we're two and a half minutes till we're on the air.
	So, do you work for your wife?
	Because I get the impression that your wife runs your life.
	Is that true, Mr. Barris?
	She runs my schedule, and she plays interference, Dr. Gorka, you know?
	She seems like a... I've never met her, but she seems like a very capable young woman.
	She very much is.
	She's one of those people... You know, this is perfect.
	There's a perfect way to explain it.
	When we were in our church, there was this thing, you know, it's supposed to help you communicate with people and your family members, the Christian way of doing it.
	I heard this, you said that.
	And they put you in with personalities.
	You're a red, you're a yellow, you're a blue, you're a green.
	Christ was a green.
	He was like a leader.
	There are two leaders, a red and a green.
	One does it one way, I'm a red, I do it another.
	I do it a different way.
	And my wife is a blue, which is like a very organized, They like a person, they like lists, they have a set way they like things, and she's perfect for what she does.
	Sounds like my wife.
	I am completely disorganized.
	I don't care if there's crap everywhere and piles of papers, and my wife said, if there's a pile of papers, its existence stresses me out.
	And I just can't relate to that.
	I mean, just its existence.
	It's there.
	On a shelf.
	My dad did that to me, apparently.
	I have some issues like that, but I do have, like, you have secondary colors, and my secondary is a blue.
	I thought it would be a yellow, which is like an extroverted life of the party, but I guess I got older.
	I'm not anymore.
	Who came up with the color code?
	A Christian Psychiatrist or Psychiatrist or something.
	Funky.
	I'll look it up.
	I'll send it to you.
	Yeah.
	It's really cool.
	All right.
	It's really cool.
	We got the articles you sent.
	We've got loads of polls.
	We have to get you to do a sanity check on.
	So we're just going to have fun.
	A usual two segments.
	I just got to do a quick read before we start.
	Okay.
	Sounds good.
	Thanks for joining us today.
	Oh, no.
	Thank you for having me.
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	Alright, it's a big day for numbers!
	I'm not a numbers guy, but when I need to talk numbers, I talk to the man who knows the pollster that we trust.
	He's got a great nom de guerre.
	Nom de plume.
	You choose.
	He's the people's pundit.
	From big data polling, Rich Barris.
	Happy Friday!
	It is a good one too, isn't it?
	Thanks for having me as always, Dr. Gordon.
	We had so many stories in our rundown that Eric gave me to discuss, and then you sent us a couple as well, so let me read the ones that are in front of me.
	Nevada.
	Senate map becomes more dangerous for Democrats as Nevada turns into a toss-up state.
	Wall Street Journal.
	New battleground poll has very bad news for Biden.
	And then this one, which is like, I can't even credit this.
	I was with President Trump yesterday and he was in a good mood.
	Maybe it's because of this.
	Marist poll.
	This is from Breitbart.
	Independence swing.
	Wait for it.
	Sit down, guys.
	Sit down.
	Independence swing.
	28 points towards Donald Trump in the last four years.
	Rich.
	I feel like I can't trust this stuff.
	It's just too good.
	You're the man who knows, so walk us through it.
	You know, it's interesting you said that, because we have been uncomfortable with some of the leads that we have been seeing in some of these states.
	So we have been doing different ballot scenarios.
	We have Trump vs. Biden with a generic someone else on the ballot, Trump vs. Biden with Kennedy and a generic someone else.
	And then the whole shebang, West, Stein, right?
	And then we just decided also to make, we've been doing it, but to make it more public and show, show a lot more detail with just Trump and Biden.
	And if it was an AB, one of the other tests, because I do, I did expect some of these polls to close.
	And when we did do that, what we saw is it does get tighter, but the former president is above 50% in the battleground states I just sent you.
	That has never happened in our polling.
	So he's not only ahead, but he's above 50.
	In both Michigan and Pennsylvania, when you lean people and you say, you know, if you had to decide today, if we had to like twist your elbow, who would you vote for?
	Who are you leaning to?
	And that's the number we're getting.
	So again, we've always leaned people when we get to a certain point in the election, but you know, former president Trump never got to these numbers, Dr. Gorka.
	And there are some other polls out there that are showing something else.
	I would just say, You know, you take everything with a grain of salt, but overall you gotta be, if you had to choose, you would rather be Donald Trump right now.
	I like that.
	That kind of gives us the common sense answer.
	Okay, so let's break it down, because this is, again, caution, caution, caution.
	Who was it who said it was Mark Twain, there's lies, damn lies and statistics.
	If, well you would know, if 50% of this is true...
	What is the driving force?
	What's the conveyor belt?
	And I'm not looking for univalent answers.
	I understand it's not, oh, it's taxation, oh, it's inflation, oh, it's the border.
	But especially when it comes to demographic shifts or new areas, new geographic areas that are giving us surprising results, are you seeing any explicatory trend lines?
	Yeah, and you're not getting out of the park today with these questions.
	I think we could do a whole show or a whole hour on why I think some of these trends are going on.
	And I think part of it is Donald Trump is a unique candidate.
	Republicans are not very relatable.
	Donald Trump has become relatable.
	And that is a big part of this.
	Second one is that he has a record and now voters, non-white voters included, young voters included, are looking at Biden's presidency versus Trump's presidency.
	And I mean, that's a very stark compare and contrast.
	And then the third part of this, I think, is that a very simple rule I tell people all the time, Nothing stays the same forever.
	If you thought black voters were going to be monolithic for Democrats forever, well then I have a story to tell you.
	It's the pre-civil rights era story, where they weren't at all democratic.
	Hispanics were not always voting for Democrats at the margins that we saw them do under the Obama era.
	That was because of the great recession.
	Trump is different now.
	I mean, and then there's, there are generational changes that are going on.
	And I think the fog of the civil rights era is beginning to lift and they were doing better under Donald Trump.
	And that's why Democrats constantly try to drum up these racial tensions.
	No, no, no, it's the reality.
	because they're trying to keep the memory of the civil rights era fresh
	because once that fades and it is fading as older black Democrats who are the
	most loyal to the Democratic Party and I'm sorry I'm not trying to be cruel
	here I'm simply it's just no no it's a reality if you're a 28 year old guy who
	had it good under President Trump as a black American Selma is not going to be
	resonating in your memory but the fact that you could actually afford a tank of
	gas is going to be you know the thing that informs your decisions and one more
	thing and you're the expert but as the layman I think you said he's a unique
	candidate and that's what we're going to title this this segment he's incredibly
	unique because he has all the advantages of of quasi-incumbency because he's been the president before but he's not the incumbent so he has none of the disadvantages that you can say this crappy situation we're in now is his fault because it's not so it's this absolutely unique perfect storm for Biden that Donald Trump President Trump brings to the table all right guys peoplespundit.locals.com peoplespundit.locals.com we're not letting him go anywhere
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	SebastianGorka.substack.com!
	that's SebastianGawker.substack.com I heard you DJing for Bob yesterday.
	Oh yeah?
	Bob loved the stuff that Alex was throwing down.
	Was it Bob's stuff or my stuff?
	It was Bob's stuff.
	He likes Darkwave Gothic.
	What is that?
	What is Darkwave?
	Oh, New Wave.
	Darkwave is great.
	I love Darkwave.
	What is Darkwave?
	Is that a thing?
	I'm old.
	I guess I'm old.
	I don't know what they're talking about.
	Give us an example, Alex.
	Like Depeche Mode?
	Oh, really?
	Could you get more gay?
	I mean, seriously.
	Tears for Fears, Mad World.
	Oh, Tears for Fears.
	I love Tears for Fears.
	Yeah.
	Tears for Fears.
	Every time I hear that, I think about this place, Sharky's, in Venice, Florida, which is on the West Coast, on the Gulf Coast.
	I swear, every time they had the best Black and Grouper sandwich, and they were, they're a bar, you know, so people are just getting sloshed.
	That's a very specific memory, the best Black and Grouper sandwich.
	Good, and I swear, every time I would go there, every time I would go there, hey, let me get my, you know, Black and Grouper, you know, Tears for Fears were playing.
	I'm trying.
	Here's my group of story.
	This is my, my, my, I have a group of story.
	So I, we got married 1996.
	We had no money and we went on honeymoon.
	I don't know how we did this to Portugal.
	And we decided not to do the boring that everybody does the Algarve and the coast.
	We went inland to these things, these series of Posadas.
	Posadas are the ancient convents that are now tiny hotels.
	Like, you know, Six rooms or whatever and just you're walking into a history and first pousada first night just got married in Portugal and Beautiful.
	We're like in one of the monks or nuns old whatever, you know sells and it's the restaurant with like three tables I order the lamb and Katie orders the grouper and the grouper arrives and my lovely lamb arrives and And she takes one bite of the grouper.
	I could see something on her face.
	She doesn't like it.
	Oh, why don't you have my lamb?
	So we swap plates, right?
	And I eat her grouper.
	She has this lovely lamb lolly dinner.
	For the next three days, I am as sick as a pig.
	And there's a photograph of me lying next to the pool.
	You know, green.
	Day one.
	I'm like, I just, like, I can't move.
	So grouper, we don't eat grouper anymore in the Gawker household.
	Let me just tell you.
	Oh, that stinks, because yeah, once you have an experience with fish like that, it's a shame, because that's it.
	I love mussels, and this is rather recent.
	I got food poisoning off of bad mussels, and now I'm afraid to eat them.
	And I love them, but I'm afraid, because I had one muscle and I was non-stop vomiting for a long... I couldn't stop.
	My sister-in-law just had shipped to her from my mother-in-law a whole thing of oysters.
	Got wicked sick and she just said, I'm never gonna eat oysters again.
	That was this week.
	That's what happened to me.
	My mother-in-law, she sent me a shipment of like... and I looked it up and people were paying a fortune for this stuff.
	And I got sick.
	Come in with...
	Cut 11.
	Cut 11.
	And you're going to talk about the endwokeness thing here?
	Oh yeah, yeah, totally.
	Have we covered both of his stories?
	Yeah, we did.
	We just went to the supermarket.
	And we got a little bit of a cold.
	We're going to go get some ice cream.
	Before anyone tells us that we don't deserve to be alive because our country is committing
	war crimes, we just want to remind you that taking civilians hostage is a war crime.
	People seem to be forgetting.
	Also, taking responsibility for accidentally killing people in an incidental airstrike Is the bare minimum?
	It's pretty expected.
	It's pretty important.
	Yeah, but you know what the difference is?
	What's the difference?
	Another organization can't ever seem to say sorry anytime they kill civilians.
	Actually, in fact, they said they'd like to do it again and again and again.
	It's almost like it's in their charter.
	Crazy.
	Crazy.
	Shabbat shalom!
	We'll just keep living, though, Biden.
	Oh, yeah.
	I love that at the end there's two pretty girls on the streets of Jerusalem or Tel Aviv saying, yeah, we'll just keep on living, Biden.
	It's on you.
	We don't care that you're going to lecture us about war crimes because, you know, killing civilians at a concert, that's a war crime.
	And that's what the other side says they want to do more of.
	Not accidentally, they want to do more of.
	I just found that on the way home from Mar-a-Lago on the plane today.
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	because it's still about the elections and data, but Rich, you know why I like you?
	Because you've got what, um, down south is called cojones.
	Because you don't care, you call out when somebody's BSing, even if they may be on the good guy side, you call them out.
	There's this account called, what is it, EndWokeness, Eric?
	And what did they post?
	What did EndWokeness?
	EndWokeness tried to scare everybody and say, oh my gosh, the number of voters registering without an ID is skyrocketing in Texas, in Pennsylvania, in Arizona, and that means all the illegals are voting.
	You pointed out what about this scare tactic, Rich?
	You know, first of all, the reason I do that, too, and everyone should do it, is because the problem with when something is not accurate is that the media's gonna pounce on it, everyone's gonna pounce on it, and then when someone has a real whistle to blow, you all get painted with the same brush, and that's how they're able to dismiss legitimate concerns.
	And I just have to say, in disclosure here, After the fact, they did contact me and say, hey, look, I'm legitimately interested.
	Can you tell me, you know, more about this?
	I just wish they would have done that before.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	And I think that's the problem.
	But good for them.
	Good for them.
	Good for them.
	Absolutely.
	I just wanted to give them, you know, a little bit of a kudos because I look like I'm wrong.
	I'm wrong.
	That's rare today.
	And that should be at least given some some credit.
	But the bottom line is, people didn't understand what the definition of transaction means.
	And listen, both parties have access to this data.
	They track it monthly.
	If those numbers were real, people would have been blowing up on the right already.
	There are smart enough people to have seen it.
	We have a national voter file database with every state.
	It's updated bi-weekly in some states and monthly in most others.
	So walk us through how we should handle... Not in you.
	Yeah.
	How should we handle this data about voter IDs, no IDs?
	What's the right way to understand it?
	There is a half a point here.
	This is why verification procedures are so important, because a transaction was mistaken to mean that it's a new registration and a new sign up, and that's really not the case.
	There are multiple reasons why there can be a transaction signal logged, but it doesn't mean it's new and it's not there.
	So immediately all I did was open up My database and look at it and the numbers are just not it took me two seconds to run a query and it wasn't there.
	So looking at what is happening here that people do have to understand the voter files.
	I call them dirty.
	They're dirty.
	Dr. Yorker.
	They're not very well maintained.
	That is why the verification procedures are so important.
	But this was specific to federal only registrations, which again targeting Maricopa County was one of the main critics of it.
	I mean, folks, my God, it's 60% of the votes statewide.
	You don't think anyone would have noticed this?
	There is a lot of crap on the voter rolls, but that's why verification procedures are so important.
	We're out of time with Rich Barris.
	Give us one state that has impressed you with cleaning up voter rolls.
	Is there anyone who's done a good job?
	Yeah, actually, I can give you two.
	And North Carolina is the more recent one.
	Florida has been doing, has been.
	I believe Florida is the gold standard for election integrity.
	It's not just for how they've maintained.
	I could always complain about that.
	I always can because, you know, the state just lags.
	They're just way behind.
	Because it's a constant effort.
	You don't just fix it once.
	It's got to be scraped continuously.
	He said he wants to come back and we could talk for a whole hour about these things.
	I like that idea.
	In the meantime, peoplespundit.locals.com, the director, the founder of Big Data Poll
	and follow him at peoples underscore pundit.
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	Justice monologue and Baris.
	Yeah, the, um, what did I... You talked about with, um, Barris, the title, like, Trump, why Trump is unique or something like that.
	Yeah, what, why, um, why Trump is a unique political candidate, presidential candidate.
	What makes, no, why Trump is a unique presidential candidate.
	A unique presidential candidate, okay.
	Justice and or monologue.
	monologue, Biden blundering his way into war with Russia, with
	the Russian Federation.
	Bye.
	And then Tiffany... could we have, could we have a title for TIFF? Um, hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm. Um.
	What's the best angle?
	I just like how everyone can get involved kind of thing, like everyone can start a chapter.
	Maybe...
	Something like the purpose of education is not to teach your kids anymore.
	It's not education, it's indoctrination.
	Hm.
	Education's indoctrination.
	Okay.
	Uh, one minute.
	Which cuts do you want to use here?
	We did the Jewish girls.
	It's a D segment, so if you want to do maybe... Oh, what's the long one?
	The Guyana.
	We might have to do... That's 220.
	That's 220.
	Yeah, we'll do 10.
	And I'll probably do... We've done Blinken 1.
	We did the Jewish girls.
	We did the Nebraska guy.
	Coming with Saki.
	Saki 7.
	That's a minute long.
	All right.
	Actually, I'm going to do the Wellness Company first, and then I'll tee up Saki.
	Wellness Company, then tee up Saki.
	And then Guyana.
	And I'll see you next time.
	you you
	A man.
	A legend.
	A legal immigrant.
	A man, a legend, a legal immigrant, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	I think Alex wants me to put on my flares.
	My Cuban heel boots.
	I never wore flares.
	Except when I was four.
	I was born in 70, okay?
	My mother bought me a pair of green elephant cord flares.
	I was four years old, okay?
	Forgive me, okay?
	What was I gonna do?
	Say no?
	I bet most of you don't even know what elephant cords are.
	They're really thick corduroys.
	They were green.
	Green.
	No child should have to do that.
	What's going to happen when they see that they're losing control and they need you to be afraid again?
	Are they going to unleash COVID-24?
	There's a, you know, there's a TB outbreak, right?
	There's a TB outbreak, tuberculosis in Chicago because of, oh, uh, Eric, why could there suddenly be an outbreak of tuberculosis in America?
	Maybe it's because we're importing a bunch of third world illegal aliens with like no hygiene or health standards.
	You mean the ones that aren't given health checks when they cross the border in their millions?
	Right.
	The ones that don't have to worry about vaccination mandates like Americans do.
	That's so weird.
	Yeah.
	I think you're right.
	It is in the news there is a measles and tuberculosis outbreak in Chicago amongst the illegals in the shelters.
	So are they going to use that or something else to scare you?
	Well, don't be scared.
	Be prepared.
	What happened under COVID?
	They tried to control you, force you to wear a mask, get vaccinated, and then ban you from taking drugs that actually protected you prophylactically, like hydroxy, which is what I took, or ivermectin.
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	prescriptions may be required, okay, so You realize the paucity of
	Political life when you see a two-minute clip from a politician you've never heard of
	From a country you've never been to, let alone ever possibly would go to.
	And in just a few seconds, he utterly and completely destroys the lying legacy establishment media.
	This is the head of state of the Republic of Guyana, who's being interviewed by a very famous BBC journalist who wants to interrogate him on Are you, like, doing oil exploration in your country?
	Are you using fossil fuels?
	How are you allowed to do that as the elected head of another nation?
	Let me lecture you as a white liberal journalist.
	And the way this politician deals with it is truly, utterly delicious.
	Cut ten.
	Let's take a big-picture look at what's going on here.
	Over the next decade, two decades, it is expected that there will be $150 billion worth of oil and gas extracted off your coast.
	It's an extraordinary figure.
	Think of it in practical terms.
	That means, according to many experts, more than two billion tons of carbon emissions will come from your seabed, from those reserves, and be released into the atmosphere.
	I don't know if you as a head of state went to the COP in Dubai.
	Let me stop you right there.
	Let me stop you right there.
	Do you know that Guyana has a forest forever that is the size of England and Scotland combined?
	If forests store 19.5 gigatons of carbon, if forests that we have kept alive... Does that give you the right to release all of this carbon?
	Does that give you the right to lecture us On climate change, I am going to lecture you on climate change.
	Because we have kept this forest alive, that stores 19.5 gigatons of carbon, that you enjoy, that the world enjoy, that you don't pay us for, that you don't value, that you don't see a value in, that the people of Guyana has kept alive.
	Guess what?
	We have the lowest deforestation rate in the world.
	And guess what?
	Even with our greatest exploration of the oil and gas resource we have now, we will still be net zero.
	Guyana will still be net zero.
	With all our exploration, we'll still be net zero.
	Powerful, powerful words, Mr. President.
	I'm not completed as yet.
	I am not finished as yet.
	I am just not finished as yet.
	Because this is a hypocrisy that exists in the world.
	We, the world, in the last 50 years has lost 65% of all its biodiversity.
	We have kept our biodiversity.
	Are you valuing it?
	Are you ready to pay for it?
	When is the developed world going to pay for it?
	Or are you in the pockets?
	Are you in the pockets of those who have damaged the environment?
	Are you in the pockets, are you and your system in the pockets of those who destroyed the environment through the industrial revolution and now lecturing us?
	Are you in their pockets?
	Are you paid by them?
	Are you paid to keep them?
	He's about to surrender.
	Eric, was that cut too long?
	Was that two minutes long?
	Is that allowed on radio?
	When it involves of mainstream media journalists getting just absolutely blown out, there's no such thing as too long.
	Guy, I was watching you on the camera there.
	You were watching that interview very closely and you cracked a smile there.
	Did you enjoy the Guyanese president there?
	I think he just gave, you know, the right answer and also, you know, the things It's just choose, I think, sir.
	It was just so well done.
	Let's give him full credit.
	That's the president of Guyana, Mohammed Irfan Ali.
	He's of Indian extraction.
	He's been the president since 2020.
	And by the way, just hold it to your horses, guys.
	He is a member of the People's Progressive Party.
	So that's a progressive destroying the BBC.
	Are you aware of the fact that we have a forest that is bigger than your country?
	And that sucks up 19.4 gigatons of carbon every year and you don't even thank us for it?
	You neo-colonialist piece of scum.
	Yes.
	Can we have some Republicans who talk like that?
	I mean, outside of President Trump?
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	That should be in a class for how to deal with the media.
	Yeah.
	Because he started off, the reporter starts off so smug, and by the end of it he's begging, please stop!
	Please stop, sir!
	How dare you dig for energy for your people?
	Who do you think you are?
	The president?
	I know, I know.
	You like that gi, right?
	Yes, sir.
	I think this is a way to deal with arrogance.
	Yes.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That guy was so arrogant.
	Play me cut four again.
	Four.
	Warren.
	American policy has actually been for a very long time that we do not provide military aid to people or countries that are in violation of international law or domestic U.S.
	law.
	And our laws are clear that anyone engaged in combat has to be careful about civilian life and has to give access to humanitarian aid.
	Prime Minister Netanyahu is clearly not doing that.
	Let's accuse him of war crimes while we're at it.
	Oh, we have to record an audio script from AMAC, Alex.
	Audio from AMAC, alright.
	I can just read it off my phone.
	20 seconds.
	The United States has made tremendous contributions ourselves, but it is imperative that Congress pass the supplementary budget request that President Biden has made.
	I know that Speaker Johnson committed to bring the supplemental to a vote swiftly.
	The message from Brussels is clear.
	That vote cannot happen soon enough.
	The message from Brussels?
	What has Brussels got to do with what Congress votes upon?
	Isn't that up to what Americans need and what Americans want?
	And that we need more money for Ukraine?
	Why?
	Because NATO says so?
	That is, of course, our chief diplomat, or rather, our chief embarrassment, Antony Blinken.
	The next I want to play for you is from Joe Scarborough, allegedly once a Republican member of Congress.
	Eric, you had a funny take on this cut.
	I thought this was Joe being really sad.
	But you think it's all a put-up job?
	It's not real?
	One of the big debates I frequently have with you and Jeff is whether or not these leftist morons in the media genuinely believe their delusions or if they're putting on an act.
	Normally, I say they believe it.
	I really think they're all wrapped up in this big, hot bubble.
	In this case, I think Scarborough's totally BSing and putting on a show here.
	Like this, he's not yelling and screaming, he's all, I'm talking soft and slow to show I'm super serious about this, guys.
	It's all fake.
	Oh, you're just giving me an image that would be hard to scrub out of my head.
	Joe Scarborough in a hot, big bubble.
	Dear oh dear.
	Hopefully it's not like Barbarella.
	If you're of a certain age, you know what I'm talking about.
	Alright, so what is he babbling about?
	RFK Jr.
	And it is a tad contrived because he's not foaming at the mouth.
	It's very slow talking into the microphone.
	Does he mean it?
	Or does he just hate RFK?
	And how is he linking him to MLK?
	You will not believe it.
	Joe Scarborough the Clown!
	Cut eight.
	We showed that extraordinary clip of Bobby Kennedy.
	And here we are 56 years later.
	A guy we both know.
	Bobby Kennedy Jr.
	Running, you know, as basically cover for Donald Trump.
	It's not a coincidence that some of Bobby Kennedy Jr.' 's biggest contributors
	Or Donald Trump's biggest contributor.
	So here we are all these years later and just this twisted path has led us to where somebody named Kennedy is putting himself in a position to elect Donald Trump president, a guy who, whose life now is dedicated to reversing the work of Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy.
	The fact that they say that without even cracking a smile.
	I do love the bit in the middle where Mika goes, oof.
	Like she's so serious.
	Her commentary is, oof.
	You do amuse me, Mika.
	We need him back.
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	I gotta get going.
	So thank you, everybody, for being here.
	We appreciate it very much.
	We appreciate it very much.
	Gorka?
	Did I see the Gorka man?
	Yeah, stand up, Gorka.
	Quick, get up!
	How good is he, Sebastian?
	Seb!
	They call him Seb.
	I call him Sebastian.
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	I just spotted you.
	It's lucky you're nice and tall.
	Not as tall as Baron, but you can spot me in a crowd.
	It's always nice to get the shoutouts from the boss.
	Even better, do we have those photographs of me with the president yesterday at Mar-a-Lago?
	Let's put that up on the screen and also the crowd.
	What an amazing crowd for Tom Homan's Borda 9-1-1 gala yesterday.
	It was almost 800 people by the pool and then in the ballroom for a superb event.
	Let's talk to a man who Knows President Trump even better than I do.
	He's senior advisor, he's attorney, just his right-hand man.
	We call him the Baron.
	Happy Friday, Boris Epstein.
	It's an honor to be with you, honor to be with your audience.
	Happy Friday.
	Love that clip.
	It is all systems go at America First.
	But you weren't there last night.
	We missed you, Baron.
	I've been a little busy fighting the fight, but I was sorry, so sorry to miss it.
	So sorry to miss all the great Americans.
	Of course, under the leadership of President Trump.
	But from what I understand, it was a huge success, and a big part of that was Sebastian Gorka being there.
	Well, poor Tom Homan paid me a lot of money.
	Exactly nothing.
	To be the MC of the evening, of course we do that for free, and it was a lot of fun.
	So, we are so proud of him, Mark Morgan, Sarah Carter, who created this new organization to tell all Americans of the crisis created by Biden. Before we get into what
	your job is and what the president's dealing with, the insane weaponization of the judiciary,
	the DOJ, the FBI, I want to give them a little bit of a peek behind the curtain because I want to
	tell a little story about last night.
	And I would like you to verify whether this is the same man that we know so well, because
	you're with him all the time and I want people to understand a little peek behind the curtain.
	So we were there for this event and before the event the president spoke to those attending at the poolside and before that we got to meet with him privately.
	So me, Vivek Ramaswamy, Tom Homan and Kash Patel.
	And, you know, I go into these with one or two things I want to tell the President, and then what usually happens is he's got his agenda, and whenever it is, Boris, whenever it is, whatever reason I'm there, the stunning thing is, whether it's in the White House, after I left, or today, So he was about to record a video, you can probably work out which one it is if you go to Truth Social, and that video had nothing to do with our meeting at Mar-a-Lago, nothing to do with the event, but Boris, we were just four of us in the room, and he wanted our advice
	On that script and that video, the idea that the former president, and God willing the future president if we do our part, wants to hear from us who aren't even 24-7 members of his team like you are, doesn't that speak to the character of the individual we're talking about?
	No question.
	President Trump is somebody who, A, is open to deeply constructive and thoughts and ideas from the leaders around him, which
	you very much are.
	And B is somebody who's so authentic in his relationships.
	And when he says something that's positive about somebody, it's truly mad.
	This isn't a politician.
	This is somebody who is honest, is direct, and is authentic.
	And that's why the American people love him, because he's not just, you know, a regular
	glad hander and mover.
	No.
	This is President Donald J. Trump, who's as authentic as it gets, has real relationships, and that's why the American people love him.
	Those who work for him love him, and I'm honored to be a small part of that team.
	And he is by far the best boss, and there's no close second that I've ever had in my whole entire life.
	False modesty does not become you, sir.
	You are not a small part of the team.
	That's not why we see you there sitting next to him so often.
	Yeah, this point is such a crucial one that you know the swamp.
	You've worked in the swamp.
	This isn't a case of just somebody making the noises.
	To make you think that he cares.
	He actually wants your opinion.
	And the script that was being written there for the teleprompter actually changed as a result of what I said, what Vivek says.
	This isn't a throwaway line.
	He actually wants the input of the people who are in front of him.
	Which for a politician, well he's not a politician, but for a man of his success is so rare, don't you find?
	It's not just rare, it's unprecedented.
	Yeah.
	Donald Trump is by far the most successful person in American history, and here's why.
	There have been a lot of other billionaires for greater business.
	There have been 44 other men who have been president.
	Right?
	There's been 45 presidents.
	Yes.
	Global Cleveland twice.
	About to be president.
	Trump twice.
	And there have been others successful at media and the press, etc.
	There's never been somebody As successful at business, as successful at TV and media.
	Remember, The Pledges was the number one show for 15 years.
	He's got 14 best-sellers and somebody who became president.
	It is completely unparalleled and unprecedented.
	That is why all of America should be thankful we have a President Trump.
	Because look around, look what's happening in the world.
	Just today, Iran is telling the United States to stand back and allow them to go and attack Israel.
	The world is in a total meltdown.
	We don't have a border.
	We don't have a functioning economy.
	We don't have national security.
	We don't have international leadership.
	The world is in a meltdown, and we need President Trump back as soon as humanly possible.
	All right.
	For a second there, as those words came out of your mouth, the most successful man in our history, I thought, the Baron's getting a little hyperbolic.
	Nope.
	And then I stopped, and I thought, hang on a second.
	Not just a billionaire, not just the most successful real estate mogul in modern history.
	I think, for me, the cherry on top that actually proves what you just said.
	He wins the presidency the first time he runs, Boris.
	Now, you're an amateur historian.
	That just doesn't happen.
	Not even Reagan could do that.
	Well, let's put it this way.
	Here are facts.
	There's never been a president Yeah!
	who's either had not served some sort of political office before or in the military before.
	Yeah.
	Never.
	Literally never in our country's history.
	That is, okay, that's an amazing...
	I'm going to have to credit you, and I might have to put that on social media or write something.
	The Baron wasn't exaggerating.
	That's actually a statement of demonstrable fact.
	Alright, I think we're going to have to send this segment to the boss.
	I think he's going to like this segment.
	Alright, let's get to the real issue at hand.
	Weaponization.
	Now, you are working for the President, not just as a senior advisor, but as an attorney, so I don't want to get you in trouble with things you can or cannot talk about because they're sub judice-y.
	But I'm just... the fact every day there are more figures being released that Judge Merchant's daughter is getting millions of dollars from the Democrats and using court cases involving her father to raise money.
	I don't understand how that happens in America, Barron.
	Well, here's what I have to say, and this is the reality of the third world nation nature of these persecutions and attacks.
	The judge in that case, and President Trump just filed a robust powerhouse motion on recusal, the judge in that case Yeah.
	has now put in place a gag order to prevent President Trump and those who work for him,
	those who are under control, from talking about a lot of these issues.
	So you've got a First Amendment violation of President Trump, First Amendment violation
	of those who work for him, First Amendment violation against his family.
	You've got the deep conflicts of Judge Marshall from his own donations to Democrats, so on
	of Judge Marshall from his own donations to Democrats, so on and so forth, a clear bias he's shown.
	and so forth, and the clear bias he's shown.
	And then you go all across the country, and if you look at these persecutions,
	And then you go all across the country.
	If you look at these persecutions, and then look at the way that the DOJ and the prosecutors
	and then look at the way that the DOJ and the prosecutors are trying to intimidate Judge Cannon,
	are trying to intimidate Judge Cannon, her smacking back just yesterday, saying that
	her smacking back just yesterday, saying that their requests are unprecedented and unjust.
	their requests are unprecedented and unjust.
	There's a complete and total weaponization of law enforcement that's being attempted.
	There's a complete and total weaponization of law enforcement that's being attempted.
	Why? It's because President Trump has dominated and annihilated his opponents in the primary.
	Why?
	He's doing the same in the general.
	If you look across the battleground states, you'll see a complete and total full-spectrum dominance,
	and that's why the other side is so petrified.
	That's why they're so scared, and that's why they're coming after President Trump.
	But the president is gonna continue to fight.
	Again, a powerhouse recusal motion against Judge Marchand just filed.
	Just made public in the last few minutes, and it'll be blasted at you shortly from a statement.
	President Trump is on the offense.
	President Trump is not giving up, and President Trump is gonna continue to fight.
	The constitutional rights of all Americans continue to fight against this decrepit,
	illegitimate leader that's attempting to be our president.
	And President Trump will win the Oval Office back for the American people.
	It's up to us, guys.
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	I thought, yeah, he's actually right.
	Isn't that crazy?
	That's crazy.
	It's crazy, but it's true.
	It's true.
	It's totally true.
	You know, a lot of other, you know, Rockefeller never became president.
	No!
	You can talk about all of these people, Carnegie, blah, blah, and not just became president.
	The first time he ran with no political background.
	That's the, that's the clincher.
	And now, whatever they say or don't say about 2020, right?
	We say that he's won twice, but now he's won the nomination twice.
	It's absolutely unprecedented.
	Do you write stuff?
	Do you ever write articles?
	Not really.
	I'm honestly too busy.
	Because that would be a damn fine article.
	You know what?
	I should put something together.
	You should.
	I'll go to work.
	Do it.
	Do it.
	All right, buddy.
	Superb.
	Thanks.
	I appreciate you.
	Take care.
	Bye.
	Lee!
	It's been a while.
	It has.
	It's not right.
	What is Ray from Livermore's last name?
	Oh, mics are still on.
	You want mics on for Lee?
	Uh, yeah.
	Mics are on and he's on the line.
	Oh, he is?
	That was quick.
	Hello, Mr. Smith.
	Hey, how are you?
	When does Mr. Smith come to Washington?
	Never.
	I just got back from New York and it was horrific.
	Were you there for the earthquake?
	No, I left.
	No, I was there for the storm and no one could get out of LaGuardia or Newark or Kennedy.
	It was hell.
	I had to stay an extra night.
	What took you there?
	Oh, I was doing some stuff with my pals at the Epoch Times, which is fun and interesting and I love them, but But I mean, yeah, actually, the way New York is, it makes Washington look like a joy at this point.
	Can you find his other book, The Strong Horse?
	Eric, I want to mention that first.
	OK.
	It looks to me like we're going to talk about Middle East stuff.
	But don't you think we should, given your credentials, young man?
	Yeah.
	Yes, I think it would be wise.
	I think it would be apropos.
	Yeah.
	How are you doing?
	What's going on in Washington?
	Just got back this morning.
	Had like three hours sleep last night, but getting ready for Katie's big event tomorrow.
	She's running for the chair of the Fairfax County Republicans.
	So we're having the convention tomorrow.
	So that's the big thing.
	Oh, that's great.
	So say a prayer.
	I'm trying to schedule her.
	I'm trying to schedule her with her publisher so she can come on and talk about her book.
	Yeah, she's been doing, she did Epoch Times, she did The Federalist, Mike was on Levin's show, which is great.
	So yeah, she'd love to come on your show.
	Good.
	Alright, I'll stay- I'll make sure her pub- I tried to get her for next week, and she was doing something else, so... Okay, well, just, just, um... We'll get her.
	45 seconds.
	Okay, good.
	And I got the book.
	You got the book?
	Okay, good.
	Alright.
	So, we're gonna do a bit of Israel, and then we'll do Deep State.
	Car 15.
	No, Car 15.
	That's right.
	Second hour.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	What did I forget?
	Did I forget anything?
	In that first segment I don't- Oh, p-uhhhhhh
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	I think so, yes.
	Thank you.
	Great job on the music today.
	You're actually funny.
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	The one, the only, Lee Smith.
	Happy Friday, Lee Smith!
	Happy Friday to you, Dr. G, and thank you for bringing me on to talk with you and your wonderful audience.
	Well, we're going to do something a little bit different.
	We're going to go back.
	We're going to wind the clock back a little bit before you became the expert on the deep state with incredible books like The Plot Against the President, The Permanent Coup, one of which turned into that amazing documentary by our friend Amanda Milius.
	You wrote some amazing analyses, including the book The Strong Horse, on the Middle East.
	Power, politics, and the clash of Arab civilizations.
	And I just... I gotta... Let's just... I'm gonna unleash you.
	What we have witnessed in the last, let's say, the last month with regards to Israel, Biden, Schumer's attack on Bibi, you're an expert on the region.
	Can you tell us what the danger of what we're witnessing is when it comes to the quote-unquote policies coming out of the Biden White House?
	Well, a lot of people are saying, well, Biden's leaning on Israel because he's worried about the Arab American vote, the Muslim vote in Michigan and Minnesota and elsewhere.
	That's not the case.
	We have to go back and we have to see beyond the Biden administration.
	We have to understand what the Obama administration It did.
	So people who are surprised and people who are describing, oh my goodness, Biden is turning on Israel.
	Look, this is how Barack Obama set it up.
	So Biden is playing out the hand that Obama dealt between the nuclear deal with Iran, which was legalized, the nuclear weapons program of a state that embodies Jew hatred.
	of a state, an obscurantist regime like Iran.
	That's what Obama did.
	And remember, as Obama was leaving the White House and, Seb, as President Trump was entering the White House, as you were coming in and the rest of Donald Trump's staff, remember that Barack Obama was behind a Security Council resolution at the U.N.
	that said that Israel was occupying Occupying different parts, including Jerusalem, including the holiest sites in Judaism, like the western wall of the temple structure.
	So again, that's how we really need to understand what's happening here.
	Since Barack Obama, and it's not just Israel, since the Barack Obama administration, The Democrats have been tilting against traditional U.S.
	allies, which includes not just Israel again, but Saudi Arabia as well, right, most crucially, and
	has in exchange been elevating Iran.
	They call this regional realignment.
	They call it integration.
	They want to integrate everyone, but that means bringing in actual traditional American
	partners and downgrading them in order to elevate American adversaries like Iran.
	So that's what's happening right now, and that's the way to understand it.
	Joe Biden didn't start it.
	No one should be happy, but we should realize this started with Barack Obama, not with Joe Biden.
	And I completely concur with that, but we need to talk about the genesis.
	Why?
	Is it because Obama bounced on the knee of Frank Marshall Davis, a communist?
	Is it, you know, antipathy?
	Is it Jew hatred?
	What is the genesis for Obama trying to unseat a duly elected Prime Minister of our closest ally in the Middle East?
	Well, you know, there's a lot of people around the world who don't like Israel.
	And, you know, I can't I can't look inside Barack Obama's heart and see, you know, whether whether he has a particular problem with with Jews.
	But certainly we know that he doesn't like Israel.
	You know, when people have said, oh, Joe Biden is a great, great friend of Israel.
	Look, that's that that is not true.
	Right.
	Again, that's part of Joe Biden's sell line.
	This is one of the things that Joe Biden says untrue things about his relationship with Israel.
	If you look at the historical relationship, Joe Biden's relationship with Israel, it's not at all a handsome relationship.
	It's a very important question.
	You ask, why is Iran so important?
	Why does Joe Biden, as Barack Obama performs, seem to be defending a terrorist group, whether it's Hamas, whether it's Hezbollah?
	Why is that going on?
	I think it's very, very important that we see The Democrats right now as an integrated party, by which I mean when we see their domestic policies doing things like opening up the border, doing things like attacking Donald, using the weaponizing the justice system to go after its opponents, whether it's Donald Trump, whether it's Trump aides like you, like Michael Flynn, whether it's Trump supporters like the January 6th defendants.
	We need to understand this fully, right?
	So once you look at the foreign policy and you say, Wait a minute, I don't understand why Barack Obama likes a regime like Iran's.
	Remember, Barack Obama spied on his opponents.
	Remember, right?
	They have opened up the border.
	They have let in terrorists.
	They've let in felons.
	They've let in spies, right?
	This is the crucial thing to understand.
	We're talking to Lee Smith, the author of The Strong Horse.
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	Marshall Davis, was it Jeremy, was it Pastor Reverend Wright?
	Because these people are all, you know, Jew haters.
	Where do you think it?
	I think... Yes, I've got a little four-year-old who snuck in the room.
	His mama let him on the loose.
	Say hello.
	Who do we have?
	Come here, say hi, then you go with that.
	Come here, this is our...
	That's Dr. Gorka.
	You want to say hi to him?
	Go ahead, he's a great audience.
	Go ahead, say hi.
	Hi!
	Nice, I like the hair.
	Look at that curly hair.
	I had curly hair like that as a kid.
	What's his name?
	Augie.
	Oh yeah, I told you, Augustus.
	Augustus, so cool.
	My dad's name, yeah.
	What did you say, Alex?
	I think that was someone else.
	Oh, okay.
	Does that work, Eric?
	Because she kept sending me different names.
	That one works.
	Yeah, that's basically like the URL.
	Okay, good.
	That one worked.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Two and a half minutes.
	When you got a moment, I need a title for Boris.
	Boris, Boris.
	From Boris to Boris.
	I think if we're talking about Obama and his pro I mean, both the Iranian revolution and the Palestinians have been part of the left's platform for decades, so I think it's perfectly consonant with that.
	There's the big meeting with I think it's just everything.
	I think it's the entire milieu, right?
	The left has always been pro-PLO, pro-Arafat.
	That's true.
	which the LA Times has sat on. So I think it's just everything. I think it's the entire
	milieu, right? These people on the left has always been pro-PLO, pro-Arafat.
	No, that's true. It's the whole ecosystem.
	I'm going to play you a card that will blow your mind if you haven't seen it from inside the State Department, and that's how we're going to transition to Deep State, okay?
	Oh, the DEI one?
	Do you have a name, Eric?
	I have it here, yeah.
	Give it to me.
	Zakia, Z-A-K-I-Y-A, and then middle name Carr, C-A-R-R, last name Johnson.
	Perfect.
	Yeah, she's the chief DEI officer of the State Department.
	Incredible.
	Absolutely incredible.
	Can you imagine the competition for that job?
	Wow.
	Can you imagine what, you know, the Russian foreign ministry thinks?
	We do not have a chief diversity officer.
	Who is our counterpart?
	Yeah, that's right.
	Counterpart.
	We don't have a counter.
	We don't know who she speaks with here.
	She can come to Moscow if she likes, but there's no one for her to speak with.
	She can bring the coffee into the meetings.
	45 seconds.
	Standby.
	You said you'll tee that up?
	Yeah.
	Another car read here, right?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yeah, a short one.
	Yeah.
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	We are back with our good buddy Lee Smith.
	We're going to transition from Middle East to Deep State, but they're all connected.
	He is the author of The Plot Against the President and The Permanent Coup, the former made into an amazing documentary by our friend Amanda Billius.
	You can still watch it online.
	You can watch it streaming.
	I'm going to connect all of this stuff together with a clip you may or may not have seen.
	The fact that this is recorded and this is out there, so you want to fact check me guys, write the name down.
	Zakiya Carr-Johnson, that's Z-A-K-I-Y-A, Zakiya Carr-Johnson, who bears the august title of Chief D.E.I.
	Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Officer of the United States.
	Eric is rubbing his face because he cannot believe it.
	Chief D.E.I.
	Officer of the State Department of the United States.
	Let's listen to what she does for a living.
	Cut three.
	I think that there's a culture of, you know, the culture of misogyny has allowed men to act
	without consequence and it becomes part of what we believe is normal, right? And that in order
	to make any change, we've literally got to be about the work of dismantling that traditional
	structure at every juncture. But how do you do that and appear to be a get along person or a
	good team worker? And, you know, for some reason there's also this very negative stereotype of
	feminists as being angry people who just don't smile and don't know how to have a good time.
	And I think, unfortunately, guess what? We have great time.
	Yeah, they have a great time.
	I bet they do.
	She looks very happy sitting there in her sweatshirt on a government Zoom call.
	Lee, we have to laugh, but we understand there's the deep state that you have so incredibly mapped for us that targets people for political purposes, puts them in prison, not just at January 6th, but Peter Navarro, my colleague from the White House, rotting in a Florida jail right now as we speak.
	And that's the frightening police state aspect.
	But it's also connected to this, because this is all coming from the same ideology, that you're permeating government with diversity, equity, and inclusion officers.
	These things are all part and parcel of the same ecosystem, are they not?
	Oh, absolutely.
	And this is something that I've thought about.
	Look, we talk about, when we talk about Russiagate, we talk about the deep state, what it's done to this country, how it's, you know, how it's targeted, how it's targeted the ruling class's opponents, right?
	But there's something else very, very important to understand here, right?
	With Russiagate, it was specific.
	It was putting a foreign nation, right, with a very large nuclear arsenal, by the way, in the middle of an information operation, right?
	Russiagate.
	But we have to understand that this DEI stuff, it really does—at the State Department, we're not talking about how it's affecting things here at the Department of Education, which is bad enough.
	But we're talking about the State Department.
	This is the American institution that does foreign policy.
	Right.
	But these kinds of things are going on throughout the entire government.
	And you can't help but look at and say, this weakens the United States.
	Now, lots of people say our adversaries are laughing at us.
	Look, our adversaries take America very seriously.
	Right.
	They look at our military.
	They look at serious people.
	They know we have very serious people here.
	However, the people who are not serious, they are weakening this country abroad and they are hurting the United States.
	I don't care what our adversaries think.
	I care about our strength.
	As it protects America, as it advances our peace and prosperity, and you see things like this, this obsession.
	It's bad enough that it happens in media organizations or in educational institutions, but if it's happening in our place where U.S.
	foreign policy, the institutional memory, right, and the institutional arm of U.S.
	foreign policy, this weakens America.
	We just literally touched upon tiny aspects of two massive issues.
	What's going on in the Middle East and the Deep State.
	It's been far too long.
	Lee, next week, can we get you back for an hour?
	Can we do that?
	That sounds great.
	I'd love that.
	Okay.
	In the meantime, everybody listening, follow him right now at LeeSmithDC.
	The books are The Plot Against the President, The Permanent Coup, and The Strong Horse.
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	One question.
	I cannot believe that you don't have a shoulder hoster.
	I would think if there's one person, but no, no, you totally flip the script and you say, and I've got it.
	I carry my on my ankle.
	I'm like, what?
	I have more shoulder holsters than you can shake a stick at.
	at. However, I have a barrel chest and I wear tailored suits. You have to have the suit
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	So, and I'm in a suit every day.
	The only way I can carapack heat with a suit is with an ankle rig.
	The shoulder holsters off when I'm casual, leather jacket, bomber jacket.
	That was a very good question, but yes, shoulder holsters are like a million times cooler and I do have them.
	Then you have to get your suits, you know, all of them disposed.
	I know.
	No, I don't.
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	Thanks, buddy.
	You have a great weekend.
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	Say hi to Gus.
	See you, buddy.
	Okay.
	Connected via Skype too.
	Okay.
	Give me a second.
	Hello, Miss Garcia.
	Can you hear us?
	I can.
	Can you hear me okay?
	Yeah, we can hear you.
	Is it possible you could move back from the camera a little bit?
	Let me help you out here.
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	Kill the mics, Alex.
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	You know, Justin, we've got Brandon Herrera, Carl Rittenhouse, Mac from the Military Arms Channel.
	But I love inviting new guests.
	Especially when they have such a sexist Norm Degares as the Boomstick Babe.
	And we're delighted to have with us Alicia Garza.
	What a sexist name you have, Alicia.
	It's actually Alicia Garcia, so my name is basically like Alice Smith in Spanish.
	Alicia, Alicia Garcia.
	Okay, I'm going to try and get all ethnic here.
	Okay, so I think we met, was it on the floor or the bar at a shot show in Vegas?
	You immediately impressed me.
	Very bubbly, vivacious individual, instructor, RSO, CEO, founder of the Boomstick Babe Limited Company, boomstickbabe.com.
	Tell us who Alicia Garcia is and what your mission, what is your mission as the Boomstick Babe?
	Awesome.
	Well, thank you for having me.
	I really appreciate it.
	I really truly do appreciate the hospitality.
	My name is Alicia Garcia.
	Everybody knows me as the Boomstick Babe in the industry.
	I am a civil rights activist.
	I am an RSO.
	I'm a firearms instructor, but I'm also the plaintiff.
	against the case Garcia versus Colorado suing the state of Colorado for the three-day waiting period to obtain your
	firearm here So I am my mission is basically to normalize gun ownership
	through education litigation and fun
	Let's break this down because this is important When did this begin?
	This, you know, attempt to put in this three day waiting period.
	Who drove it?
	And where is this whole case right now, Lucia?
	So the case was established on October 1st, the day the law went into effect.
	So in 2023, 2024, currently as well, Colorado has had a blitzkrieg of gun control that is headed here.
	And one of the things that they wanted to impose was a three-day waiting period to obtain your firearm.
	They passed it.
	It went into effect on October 1st, 2023.
	I flew home from a range day in Georgia to purchase a firearm that day so I could be denied, so I could sign the paperwork right then and there and file that paperwork.
	So I did.
	Right now we are in the Appeal phase.
	So we filed an appeal with the Ninth Circuit.
	We're waiting to hear back from that any day now.
	We had a preliminary injunction that was filed not too long ago that was denied.
	Our judge was a Carter appointee.
	Excuse me, you mean Jimmy Carter?
	Yes.
	Is he like the Crypt Keeper?
	Is he 120?
	120? It was very very ridiculous to be told that in court we had if he didn't
	look at us it wasn't because he wasn't paying attention He was looking at the monitors because he can't hear and see very well.
	So he had to look at the monitors to know exactly what was going on.
	So I was like, yeah, this is going to go all the way to Scottis.
	And what is the state, in your state, In general, in terms of the understanding of the threats to the Second Amendment, was it hard for you to get supporters or sympathy?
	Tell us what it's like, you know, because you're on the front line and you've got to take this all the way to the Supreme Court.
	Indeed.
	So Colorado is very purple.
	It's very liberal and it is very, you know, on the end of commie democratic liberal.
	So it is very, very difficult to have a Second Amendment voice here.
	We, I have testified against gun control for the past three years.
	I've only missed two hearings.
	This place is very, very anti-gun.
	And it was, I mean, I literally was in a hearing yesterday because they passed six to five in committee hearing to now require Coloradans to carry liability insurance if you're a gun owner.
	So it is very difficult to get support here.
	Recently, we have had an abundance of people start putting a national spotlight on Colorado, which I'm Very, very grateful for.
	However, I wish this could have happened a little sooner.
	We actually had Brandon Herrera come out here, I believe it was two weeks ago, for the assault weapons ban hearing.
	He testified in opposition of that.
	Kyle Rittenhouse is a great friend of a company that I work for, Rocky Mountain Gun Owners.
	Rocky Mountain Gun Owners is a sister company to the National Association for Gun Rights.
	So Dudley Brown, Brennan Herrera, and a ton of other people showed up for the assault
	weapons ban to testify in opposition of it.
	But we are being overrun with gun control right now, and it's very difficult to share
	that voice and find support.
	So I'm doing everything I can.
	I feel like the chief stands alone over here for quite some time.
	Well, when I met you, you impressed me with your energy, your can-do spirit, and the fact
	that I don't think you're ever going to give up.
	You're talking to about three and a half million people across America, in every state, and in Colorado as well.
	What is your message to those who say, you know, I hunt white tails in the fall, I'm going to be fine.
	I shoot clay pigeons, I'm going to be fine.
	Or, you know, I'm a 22-plinker, I'm going to be fine.
	What's your message to people listening right now, Alicia?
	I'm a protector and so are you.
	And there is a very special quote that reminds me every time that I go to court that we did not inherit this land from our ancestors.
	We are borrowing it from our children.
	And we're raising a group of children to not understand the importance of civil rights.
	They don't understand the importance of privacy and they don't understand the urgency of liberty.
	Evil never waits.
	And this is a an onslaught of control that is being pushed onto them.
	And it's not just about the Second Amendment.
	They're using these laws, guised as anti-gun bills, but what they're also doing is violating your Fourth Amendment right, your Fifth Amendment, your Fourteenth Amendment.
	So our children are not understanding the importance of due process.
	Our children are not understanding the importance of privacy or search and seizure.
	And they're being cultivated to think that they don't have these things and these things are Yeah, it's a beautiful explication.
	We didn't inherit it from our ancestors.
	We're borrowing it from our children.
	Follow this lady right now, Boomstick Babe, who didn't even know she was giving an interview.
	She was in the middle of a hike 50 minutes ago.
	Follow her at Boomstick Babe.
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	You're from a very special vintage.
	Good stuff, Alex.
	Nicely done.
	Fridays we have more fun, but the music is always the best hit on America First.
	I don't usually... I don't have much nice to say about this man because I met him in person when I was at Fox.
	But sometimes he gets it.
	He gets it.
	Eric, what do you think of Bill O'Reilly?
	I think I've said this before when we played a cut with him.
	I grew up, he was one of the earliest political commentators I watched in high school, along with Hannity.
	So you're not a Rush baby?
	I listened to Rush in high school as well, yes.
	So he's one more.
	But I read Bill O'Reilly's book, Culture Warrior, from 2006.
	Again, talking about the war on Christmas as the earliest.
	He'll always have a special place in my heart.
	Alex, do you have an opinion either way on Mr. O'Reilly?
	I like him.
	You like him, okay.
	So this is on Fredo Cuomo's whatever tiny little platform now and it's Bill O'Reilly giving his explication as to why Trump can fix all of it and if you're watching pay attention to Fredo's face because it's quite amusing.
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	You thought that Donald Trump would govern better financially versus Joe Biden.
	I'm assuming you're implying that you're implying to inflation.
	But would you agree that inflation is a global thing and that is due to surprise teams being shut down during COVID?
	Bill, no.
	And I never imply anything, Stefania, ever.
	I always just say it.
	So you are paying 48% more for gasoline Since Donald Trump left office, you are paying 23% more for groceries.
	And if you go out to a restaurant, more than that.
	That has nothing to do with Lithuania or France or Niger or Thailand.
	It has to do with regulations that the Biden administration slapped on the fossil fuel industry and others, which drove up the cost of doing business and then slowed down the supply line and hurt the farmers and across the board.
	That's why all Americans are paying more for the essentials of life.
	Donald Trump will remove almost all regulations.
	So therefore, just by that action, The people will get some relief.
	Undeniable.
	Absolutely undeniable.
	If you have cheap energy, everything else is cheap.
	Because you need energy to make and move everything.
	That's why the economy is so amazing under President Trump.
	Big day tomorrow.
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	Hello, Brendan.
	This is Russia?
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	They've arrived in the Soviet Union.
	Is it the Soviet Union?
	We'll talk about where it was filmed.
	The most famous training montage is about to begin.
	In fact, it's not really a montage because it's the next flippin' 22 minutes of the movie.
	But it is iconic!
	It's Rocky IV.
	It is the choice of my co-host for us to make movies great again this week.
	Chris Coles, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you, sir.
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	I started wearing Fred Perry many years ago.
	I saw a tennis player wearing it and I thought that is a cool logo.
	I want that shirt.
	Everybody thinks I'm a proud boy now.
	But do you have the knitted leggings?
	Because this is 1985.
	You know what?
	I'll get online.
	I'll buy those right after the show.
	All right, so this is Rocky IV.
	It is the Cold War comes to the boxing rink.
	Apollo Creed murdered by Drago.
	And then revenge, or maybe not if you haven't seen it, from Rocky Balboa.
	Brigitte Nielsen is the statuesque squeeze.
	Dolph Lundgren plays Drago, the inhuman boxer that the Soviets have pitched against Rocky.
	I have opinions about this movie that may surprise you.
	I always ask you why you chose the movies you choose.
	But let's jump in at a strategic level with the franchise that is Rocky.
	I mean, let's talk about the fact that Stallone created two of the most successful movie franchises in the history of moviemaking, Rambo and then Rocky.
	What is Rocky, or what is the Rocky franchise to you, Chris?
	Because it really is iconic Americana, but I'd like to hear from you because you chose the film.
	Wow, that's a very difficult question.
	I mean, you didn't really give me much time to think about it.
	But let me, because we don't rehearse this stuff.
	They can't tell.
	They cannot tell.
	It is so smooth and polished.
	They cannot tell that we do this without any talking points.
	I mean, none.
	No, I mean, literally, we pick the movies and then a week later, we just start talking.
	Yeah, honestly, like I just finished watching it a half an hour ago.
	Sometimes we actually watch the movies beforehand.
	Occasionally, occasionally we do.
	Listen, Rocky, the very first movie, is the ultimate underdog story.
	It's a great movie.
	It's, you know, obviously everybody knows it's one of the great sports movies of all time, but it's more than that.
	It's layered, it's magic, you know, and it's iconic.
	And so the movies that came after that, I mean, some people, the cynical people would say, oh, those are just cash grabs, right?
	But I don't really think so.
	I think Sylvester Stallone, you know, he had his heart in it.
	And the second movie, I think, is just as good as the first movie.
	I absolutely love that film.
	Then in the third movie, they brought in Mr. T, right?
	They brought in Mr. T to play the villain.
	It introduced him essentially to the world.
	He eventually got the A-team, changing the course of 80s history.
	And then you've got this film, which—and you always ask me why I pick a film.
	I picked this film, quite honestly, because I had never seen it.
	It's the only Rocky film I've ever seen.
	I don't know how I got to this point without watching it.
	I've always expected to watch it.
	It just never happened.
	I don't know.
	Sort of like finding a wife, you know, sometimes you get it and sometimes you don't.
	I did not ever watch Rocky IV.
	I always knew what happened in Rocky IV because it's so iconic, such an iconic film.
	And I think if you think about Rocky in its entirety, Rocky really is an American hero.
	And I think that's due to Sylvester Stallone.
	Sylvester Stallone loves America, right?
	And he wanted to put in his movies American values.
	You know, he's a Catholic, I'm sure.
	He's Italian, right?
	He must be Catholic.
	And he's definitely a conservative in the political sphere, although he doesn't talk too much about politics.
	Although I did see his brother once.
	At an event that we used to have in Los Angeles called the Friends of Abe, secret meeting of conservatives in Hollywood.
	So secret we're talking about in front of millions of people right now.
	It's gone now.
	It's evaporated into nothing.
	Although there's other groups out there that are still active.
	But yeah, that one's gone.
	But yeah, I mean, the man, he loves America.
	He wanted to put something of substance into his films.
	This is back in the 80s when you actually had to have substance in your movies to some degree.
	Although I think people probably looked at this film and said it didn't have that much substance because the story was really short.
	And almost everything was just that you could tell this was the age of the music video.
	Everything was a music montage.
	No, absolutely.
	So I'm very curious, you know, since you haven't seen it before, how are you going to rate this at the end?
	I don't think I'm speaking out of school that one of our team members here says it is his favorite Rocky movie.
	It is the most successful financially of the whole franchise.
	I'm a little bit... For me, it stands out.
	I don't think it's the cash grab issue.
	I don't think that's the issue.
	But the Rocky... The Rocky of this movie is not the Rocky Balboa of the original movie.
	Would you agree?
	Because we reviewed that movie as well.
	Certainly, and I actually think that they kind of They tried to do something that they had already done in
	the third film, right, which was to make Rocky somebody who was no longer hungry for victory,
	right?
	In that third film, they had such a brilliant message, a brilliant dynamic, which is that
	if you get too comfortable, you get soft.
	Right.
	And if you get soft, somebody else is going to be right there to jump in and take your place and knock you out, knock you off the top of the hill.
	So that third film, they had that great sequence where he's training like kind of joke training almost.
	And Mr. T is like training for war.
	You know, it's like this brutal training session.
	So we already had that.
	So we couldn't include that in this film.
	But you kind of had something similar.
	With the Carl Weathers character coming down, you know, with all the spectacle and everything like that.
	And he doesn't just get beaten by Drago.
	He actually gets killed in the ring.
	Drago actually kills him in the ring.
	So they took it to this other level.
	They took it to this, you know, higher, you know, they're trying to elevate everything.
	I think it's difficult if you've done so much.
	You know, he told the story he wanted to tell in those three films.
	So how do you add on?
	Well, you kind of take a little bit from this film, a little bit from that film, and I think he struggled.
	And that's why so much of this film is like music montages and stuff like that, musical numbers, so much music in this film.
	If you don't love 80s music, it's gonna be hard for you to get through this movie.
	If you're not...
	If you're not a fan of James Brown, we do not recommend this music.
	I mean, this movie is not for you.
	But of course it is one of the coolest songs about America living in America and the way it is performed by James Brown in the movie before the big fight is quite, quite iconic.
	It is, of course, Rocky IV, the most successful of the franchise.
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	Let me go! Apollo!
	I cannot be defeated.
	There is no moving my screen.
	Turn that light off!
	You can do it.
	This is absolute pandemonium.
	Let's stand back.
	We're invincible, fellas.
	Keep on doing it.
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	And you'll be the real champion.
	Where's the stretcher?
	What started out as a joke has turned out to be a disaster.
	He appears to be in very serious condition.
	The man has died.
	If he dies, he dies.
	Iconic line from Rocky IV from Dalf Lundgren who, by the way, was martial arts champion, karate champion of Europe, 1980-1981.
	So, you know, he wasn't faking his physicality for the movie.
	The iconic line, if he dies, he dies.
	Chris, how much of this, you made this interesting observation that Stallone is kind of searching for the story here, kind of grappling with it, not necessarily wanting to do a remake of the Mr. T story in three.
	How much of this is a little bit of this, a little bit of that from the prior movies, but overlaid with the revenge story?
	Is this about the revenge for his best buddy Apollo Creed being killed by Drago?
	Is that how we should understand Rocky IV?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I think there is obviously some kind of an element of that.
	He's not taking revenge in the sense that he's out to murder Draco, of course.
	You know, when you get into a situation like this, it's a sports situation.
	You know, it's it's a tragedy.
	What do you do?
	I think that Sylvester Stallone was trying to figure out how Rocky would go through the grieving process.
	And I think there was a beautiful speech that he makes when he's talking to his wife.
	And he's like, you know, we can't change.
	We are who we are.
	We are what we are.
	And I think to some degrees that that's true.
	And then there's, of course, the famous speech at the end saying, you know, if I can change, we can all change.
	It was kind of this moment where he's trying to say, like, you know, let's not hate each other Russians.
	and Americans, we can all get along, kind of a thing.
	But he's kind of right in both speeches, right?
	I do think that there is this sense that we are who we are.
	And sometimes you just got to do what you got to do.
	That's what I believe.
	There's another line that he uses.
	And that's kind of the way of man, like, like, that's how men are.
	We're not the kind of people that like to just sit down and take something and kind of be like, okay, like, fine, whatever, I'll just deal with this horrible thing.
	We're the kind of people that, you know, men kind of want to go out and fight.
	And women are just like, okay, you don't have to fight.
	And men always want to go out and fight.
	I don't know what it is within us.
	I think in the 1980s, it was so typical to have masculinity on display.
	You know, to romanticize masculinity and talk about it in a positive way, that at this point, by the time Rocky IV came out, this was not that big of a deal.
	I don't think people thought of this as, like, weird.
	It was definitely over the top.
	I consider this film, after I watched it, my first thought was, this is dessert.
	Right?
	Rocky 1, 2, and 3, we got breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
	And now this is dessert, right?
	Like, with all the sprinkles, with all the candy on top of it, like, it was just the most dessert version of Rocky you could imagine.
	I've seen Rocky 5.
	We'll try not to talk about that one.
	But yeah, no, I feel like there was heart in it and there was good messages.
	He's trying to be a good father.
	We saw that in the film.
	And so there was a lot of good stuff there.
	But yeah, it was definitely sort of like a film that celebrates masculinity.
	And I'm all for that.
	Well, let's talk about that for a second.
	So the celebration of masculinity and men want to fight.
	Because we've been doing this for 51 episodes.
	The next episode will be our one-year anniversary.
	And one of the things you said in a prior review, which has just been seared, On to my cerebellum is this thing about the role of men and how whatever the edilogues tell you of the transgender lunatics, a man's job ultimately is to be dangerous.
	is to be lethal. Why? We want to live our lives in peace, but if you have a girlfriend, a wife,
	a woman you love, or a child you're out on the streets with that you're looking after,
	that you're responsible for, the next person walking down the street could be a threat
	that you have to deal with. And the way you express that with such clarity has stuck with
	me since then, because that is the ultimate difference between men and women.
	I think Jordan Peterson said something like, every man needs to be able to be dangerous.
	Not every day, but you need to be able, because What did you say?
	I think you said, you are the last resort.
	If push comes to shove, it's the man who has to be lethal, who has to be the last resort.
	And I think, I think that may be the undertone of why we celebrate movies like this.
	Because we realize that violence has a place in the correct context.
	I was just thinking about this just the other day.
	I put this into a video I'm making about the passport bros, and why American men are going overseas to find a wife.
	This is a new phenomenon, this passport bro thing.
	I mean, it's happened for centuries, probably, but it's really become a popular trend now.
	It used to be the mail order brides, and now the guys are actually traveling.
	But you've got to ask, why is this so popular now?
	And women who are complaining about this will say, uh, you know, you guys are just losers who can't get, can't be good enough to get a girl.
	So you got to get the inferior women overseas.
	And the passport bros are saying, no, no, no, no, no.
	You don't understand.
	We can get an American girl.
	We don't want American girls.
	We now want to go overseas and get the women over there because they're in fact superior to you.
	Uh, and so why is this?
	You gotta, you gotta explore this.
	And so I do in that, in that new video that's coming up, but I also read a tweet about some woman complaining about manspreading, right?
	And it's been a long time since I've heard somebody complain about manspreading.
	But I hadn't really thought too much about it until I saw this tweet.
	And they're like, why do men spread their legs and take up all the room everywhere they sit?
	And it occurred to me, because I've been doing some athletic stuff, I've been training Muay Thai a little bit, I've been doing some other athletic stuff.
	He's becoming a lethal weapon himself.
	I'm becoming a lethal weapon myself.
	It occurred to me that that seated position is a stable position.
	Imagine sitting with your knees together like a dainty petite woman, and somebody comes over and just pushes you over.
	Right.
	It's not only stable, it's a position from which you can do something if you need to.
	Exactly.
	You sit like that, everybody knows this guy's ready to go.
	It's an unconscious thing.
	That is so good.
	Thousands of years of evolution.
	I think men are hardwired to sit planted like that.
	You're planted.
	You're ready to go.
	You're ready for action.
	If the terrorists come, you're ready to go, right?
	And also, what message are you telegraphing if you sit there with your legs crossed next to each other, which I physically can't do.
	There's something between my legs that makes that impossible.
	And it's like, what message are you telegraphing when you sit like a woman?
	Or with your knees together, it's like, you are not a man!
	Exactly.
	It's not attractive to a woman, because a woman looks at you and thinks, this man is weak, or this man can't protect me, right?
	That is the natural position of a man, to be planted, and a woman thinks, oh, this guy's ready to go, this guy's ready for action, he can protect me, you know, it makes you desirable.
	I think it's all on an unconscious level, But also, you can sit, I think, with crossed legs, like, you know, with your ankle on your knee kind of a thing, because that can become a stable position very quickly, right?
	You know, you want to be able to be comfortable and relaxed, but also be ready to go.
	What is your video on how a man sits?
	When is that coming out?
	Couple days.
	I'll put that on.
	I'm excited.
	I'm super excited.
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	Alright, come in with Adrian and Rocky.
	Have you read the papers?
	Do you know what everybody says?
	It's suicide!
	You've seen him, you know how strong he is.
	You can't win!
	Adrian...
	Adrian always tells the truth.
	Oh Now, maybe I can't win.
	Maybe the only thing I can do is just take everything he's got.
	But the baby, he's gonna have to kill me.
	A man trying to explain to a woman that which is possibly inexplicable.
	We are talking Rocky IV, Adrian and Rocky Balboa, a clinch moment when he decides he just has to go and fight the man who could kill him.
	Why?
	We'll discuss in a moment.
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	Chris, on Monday we had an amazing guest for the Manhood Hour, one of the most intelligent human beings I know, Rich Minita.
	And he said something about, I asked him what we need to inculcate into the next generation of young men in America.
	He talked about this story that was familiar to me, that is taught in the British schools, of Horatio on the Bridge.
	A Roman who stood there, and even though the barbarians would probably kill him, said, you do not cross this bridge.
	And he fought them one after another.
	Even though he knew he would probably die, he had to stand on that bridge to protect his city and his civilization.
	Isn't there a bit of that in this moment where Rocky says to Adrian, yeah, he's probably going to be able to kill me.
	This is not a human being.
	This is a fighting machine.
	But he killed my friend, and I have to fight him.
	Isn't that quintessentially what manhood is about?
	Oh, absolutely.
	And this whole movie.
	That metaphor, using that story, it's a perfect metaphor for this entire film.
	I would like to, as an aside, I'd like to say I actually love that scene because there's a little humanity in there with Adrienne when she says, you know, basically, I don't believe in you.
	I don't believe you can win.
	Yeah.
	He looks up at her, very sad, you know, and she kind of like flinches a little bit like, oh, you know, that was too harsh.
	I shouldn't have said that.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	And you see, it's just such a subtle thing in the acting, but like if women want to know what men want in a life, that's what men want in a life.
	They want a woman who will support them to the end.
	No matter what.
	And she does come to Russia to be with him and says that exactly.
	What you just said says it exactly.
	And it's such a lovely little moment when she gets to Russia.
	And even that little look that she gives him after she's so cruel to him, but she's trying to save his life essentially.
	She's trying to stop him from dying.
	So she's trying to stop him from leaving.
	So she says that, but it's such a cruel thing.
	It's such an awful thing for her to say to him that she does sort of stop and like, you know, present this little look like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have said that.
	But no, you're right.
	The whole the whole film is him standing up against.
	I mean, it's essentially one man standing up against the entirety of the Soviet Union.
	Right.
	That's how this was written.
	This was written as the U.S.
	versus the USSR.
	Encapsulated in this one fight.
	And yes, it's a fiction.
	And yes, it's a little bit silly because it's just a boxing match.
	But it's actually told very well.
	The concept of the Russians came in and killed Rocky's best friend.
	So now Rocky's got to come and make sure that the Russians know who's superior, who's the best.
	Especially at the time in the 1980s, 1985.
	This was an important idea. This is something important that Americans, you know,
	we wanted to believe that we were the land of the free, the home of the brave, we were the
	superior nation, and that the Russians would not win that Cold War. And then of course, Ronald Reagan
	came around and single-handedly destroyed the Russians. Hang on, it was Maggie Thatcher, blessed
	Saint John Paul II, and the Gipper. I mean, there were three of them. There was three of them.
	I'm joking, obviously.
	I don't think... I'm not!
	I don't reckon so.
	There were three of them.
	No, you're absolutely right.
	No, no, that team came in and finally ended the Soviet problem.
	Although, I don't know, I'm not sure if it really ended completely, but at least...
	Superficially.
	The enemy is now inside the wire.
	That is the truth.
	I'm going to give a little spin on what we just discussed in a moment.
	But first things first, this is Making Movies Great Again with our good friend Chris Coles coming to you from TheReliefFactor.com studios.
	What is your role?
	What can you do to push back on the insanity of the threat being inside the wire now?
	You don't have to have a YouTube channel or a national radio show or run for public office.
	How about one very simple thing?
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	Okay, I have to break you.
	They're toe-to-toe.
	The Russian tower is above the American.
	It's a true case of David and Goliath here.
	is unbelievable for a swede he plays a pretty impressive soviet officer
	I must break you.
	Another iconic line from Rocky IV.
	To continue with where we were, Chris.
	For me, and this is where I'm going to start telling you what I think about this movie.
	I'm not a big fan of the Rocky series.
	I'm a huge fan of the Rambo series.
	You know, I'm a military wonk.
	I worked in the Defense Department for years.
	I served in the British Army.
	I love the whole Cold War theology of that series.
	This is where the Cold War was kind of slapped on top of the Rocky franchise in Rocky IV.
	But I couldn't... We've reviewed it, and it is a great movie, but the original Rocky...
	It's so grim.
	It's such an incredibly grim film.
	From the apartment to the condition of the gym to the, I'm a loser and you never gave me a shot, kind of like just this loser life.
	I don't find that enjoyable.
	I want to watch movies where, you know, bad guys get crushed and the hero's victorious.
	And Rocky wasn't about being victorious.
	I mean, what was the one thing about Rocky?
	Rocky, the original, was about taking as many hits as you can take, and even if you lose, you can stand up on your feet again, right?
	Can I go the distance is the phrase.
	Can I just go the distance?
	Here, it's even a little bit of a twist on that.
	It's not, can I go the distance?
	It's what we just discussed.
	Even if it kills me, as a man, I must do this.
	Which is a great truism.
	It's an amazing thing to build a movie around.
	But for me, Rocky was a very subtle movie.
	Very subtle movie.
	The depth of the portrayals.
	The tension between the coach and Rocky, the tension between Adrian, this, you know, ugly duckling, and Balboa.
	The pathos of that film is neck deep.
	Here, I kind of miss the subtlety.
	And I know it's because of the 80s and the music videos.
	This does not have the depth.
	Of the original Rocky.
	Is that a fair comment to make, Chris?
	It's a very fair comment to make.
	Well, like I said, this is dessert.
	Okay.
	This is dessert.
	Dessert is empty calories.
	Cheesecake.
	Dessert is... Cheesecake is exactly what it is.
	It's, uh, you know, it's... What do they call it?
	Saccharin.
	It's overly sweet.
	Yes.
	With that stupid bloody robot.
	I was about to bring in the robot.
	I mean, we've got to address the robot.
	I think the robot was a mistake.
	I can give you a little background on the robot.
	The robot is a real robot that was developed by a guy who wanted to develop a kind of a robot that was helpful to humanity.
	And Rocky Balboa's son, who was, I believe he was autistic, they had the robot come in as a kind of treatment for his autism.
	Right.
	And it helped the son quite a bit.
	And Rocky was very impressed.
	Rocky.
	Sylvester Stallone was very impressed with the robot.
	And so he said, OK, you know what?
	I want to put this in the movie.
	So there is a kind of an actually a nice story behind it.
	But yeah, I don't think it's really effective.
	It's a very 80s.
	It's very 80s.
	I mean, everything about this movie is, it's the most 80s film I think that may exist in the universe.
	The music is super 80s.
	Some of the lines are kind of like cheesy 80s stuff.
	Even through that cheesiness, though, and even through that ridiculousness, the acting is actually quite good.
	Like the way Rocky Complains about insignificant things like, you know, the, you know, his son's lights being too bright and stuff like that, you know, with the camera that he's run around with.
	The acting is still good.
	And there's a moment where he says, you know, I don't care about the house.
	I don't care about all these cars.
	I don't care about like, you know, our wealth.
	You know, there's things that are more important than that, right?
	And this is all, you know, what we're talking about all being, you know, part of being a man.
	There's some things that are just important to you and the house and the cars.
	Yeah, sometimes, you know, at certain moments, that's fun.
	That seems important.
	But at the end of the day, that's not, you know, the most important things.
	The most important things are like your best friend dying.
	That's like obviously a hugely important thing.
	So you do kind of like get through that.
	But yeah, a lot of the fun of this movie, I think, is the Is the 80s cheese of it.
	And I don't know, for me, I like being taken back to the 80s.
	And I particularly like being back with this, this couple.
	I like this couple.
	I like Carl Weathers.
	I like these characters.
	The only one guy that I don't like is, what's his name?
	Mikey?
	Mm hmm.
	Or Paulie.
	It's easy. It's like a- Not you, you. Paulie. Paulie.
	Paulie. That's what I said. Paulie.
	Paulie is so annoying.
	He had a great little moment there.
	He goes, yeah, I know I'm annoying, you know, but if I had to be anybody else, I'd be you, Rock.
	And he's kind of crying, you know, it's like a nice little moment.
	And then they flip it as a joke later when he sees Drago.
	He goes, you remember what I said about wanting to be you?
	Nevermind.
	There's like these nice little moments.
	I find Pauly incredibly annoying.
	Eric, you agree, don't you?
	I actually find Pauly to be, if not the most fascinating, the most realistic character in the series.
	Because he is, what is he?
	He's the deadbeat brother-in-law in the shadow of his more famous brother-in-law, the main character.
	We all either know someone like that in our lives, or maybe some of us have been that person before.
	Yeah, we all know people.
	I don't know about Eric being somebody's deadbeat brother-in-law, but let's not go there.
	TMI.
	We all know Paulie's, but I don't want to watch 90 minutes of Paulie.
	That's why I find him irritating.
	I will say this, though.
	And I don't like the Rocky movie.
	It is a classic movie.
	An utterly classic, iconic movie.
	I have a different requirement for movies.
	I want my lead characters not to be losers, okay?
	And, you know, going the distance for me is not enough.
	You know my character.
	I don't want to go the distance.
	I want to crush my enemies and hear the lamentation of my women.
	That's Dr. G's philosophy of life.
	But watching Rocky, what was it like, three or four months ago?
	People, and especially after watching the documentary that was just released this year, On Stallone and his family.
	My gosh, this guy can act.
	If you go back and watch Rocky, the depth of that performance, portraying a failure, it's some of the best acting of a modern movie.
	I'm sorry, I don't care what anybody thinks, it is incredible acting.
	And he doesn't have that range in this movie.
	The script doesn't give it to him in ways that the original did.
	Um, OK.
	What else do we have to say?
	Um, a bit of trivia.
	This film introduced groundbreaking sports photography.
	The way they filmed things in the ring was truly inventive.
	Allegedly, and you always have to take these with a pinch of salt, much of the early fight scenes were real.
	The punches connected.
	So much so that Carl Weathers walked off set And after Dolph Rundgren connected with him one too many times and said, I'm leaving this movie, I'm calling my agent, I'm out of here, you're an ass.
	And Stallone had to bring Lundgren and Weathers back to make peace so the filming should continue.
	And in a famous story with the final fight scene that was actually filmed in British Columbia, standing in for the Soviet Union at the Agrodome, Dolph Lundgren at one point fully connected with Stallone's chest so much that he created an injury and an enlarged heart and Stallone was in the hospital for eight days as a result of that.
	So, you know, sometimes they took it a little bit too seriously.
	What else?
	Super successful in terms of the cost.
	Less than... Well, hold on, hold on.
	Can we just sit on that?
	Or stay with that for a second?
	Go ahead.
	Think about the gravity of this.
	They're filming a movie.
	These are actors filming a movie.
	Stallone says, let's connect because, you know, I actually want this to look real.
	Dolph Lundgren, who, like you said, he was, you know, a black belt in karate.
	He was a champion.
	He knew, you know, how to fight.
	He punches him.
	Now think about this.
	Okay, so Stallone was clearly on steroids.
	It's kind of funny how in the movie they're like... What?
	This isn't natural.
	Human beings can't look like that.
	I thought that's what you're going to look like after a few months of Muay Thai.
	Right.
	No, no.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Spoiler alert.
	In the 80s, Sylvester Stallone was on steroids.
	It's funny, though, because in the movie they're like, oh, the Russians are all on steroids, but the Americans are natural.
	It's like, no, no, no, no.
	You can't look like that.
	So Stallone, he's probably got already a somewhat enlarged heart because of the steroids, possibly.
	Yeah.
	And so Lundgren punches him, but he punches him so damn hard.
	I mean, have you ever heard of that?
	Where somebody punched somebody so hard, they actually put them in intensive care in the hospital from messing up their heart?
	I've never even heard of that happening.
	Lundgren, he doesn't do that in a real-life boxing match where he's supposed to be fighting somebody.
	He does that As an actor doing a movie like that is that must have been the hardest like they picked the right guy for this movie.
	Like you really could punch as hard as You know, Drago in the film, pretty crazy, I think.
	A guy who, by the way, autobiographically was a runt, suffered from allergies as a kid, was a little tiny kid, and then just decided to start doing weightlifting and then turned himself into the European karate champion.
	So that's, you know, oh, and by the way, he's got a master's degree in engineering.
	So this is not a dummy.
	Dolph Lundgren is He's a pretty smart guy who just happens to be a black belt as well.
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	strength Like your Popeye.
	He ate his spinach every day.
	Shall we have a demonstration?
	Please do.
	Thank you.
	A normal heavyweight averages 700 pounds of pressure per square inch.
	As you can see, Drago averages 1,800 a day.
	So the result's quite obvious.
	And what results are those?
	Whatever he hits, he destroys.
	That iconic freeze-frame with Dolph Lundgren punching.
	I think that was like, you know, the whole decade of the 80s was that snapshot.
	Whatever he punches, he destroys.
	All right.
	Most successful in the franchise, as I said, cost 28 million to make.
	I always laugh when we mention these figures about how much these movies cost to make and just how they're pitons they're like the craft truck food services of one
	episode of Game of Thrones today 28 million to make netted over 300 million
	there is a director's cut with an additional two minutes that some say you know
	makes it a little bit deeper I don't know how two minutes does that but there is
	a director's cut and let's give credit again written by and directed and
	starring Sylvester Stallone I don't know how you do that, how you can be directing and in the ring at the same time, and then of course rating it.
	Final thoughts before we rate this out of, I guess, golden gloves?
	Final thoughts on Rocky IV, Chris.
	You know, Sylvester Stallone also wrote the novelization of the film himself, which is insane.
	Wow.
	And apparently, according to the source that I referenced, It presents Drago in a much more sympathetic way.
	It's a much more in-depth, obviously, look at the characters and everything.
	Because this was an incredibly short story.
	Incredibly short story.
	If you took out all the music montages, this movie would probably be like a half an hour.
	Yeah, right.
	I'm not joking.
	I timed the training montage, which goes in and out.
	The training montage is almost half a flipping hour.
	This is a 90-minute movie!
	It's pretty intense.
	Well, you know what's bizarre is, like, in the 80s, that was, like, a kind of a common thing.
	I don't know about 30-minute montage, but the concept of a montage was, like, that was, like, a super 80s thing.
	You had that in a lot of movies.
	Look, Rocky IV, I would say, is obviously a bigger budget film compared to some other films.
	It's a more slick film than some other films that were coming out in the 80s.
	People got to remember, like, a lot of the films in the 80s weren't Back to the Future, or Rocky, or Indiana Jones, you know, a lot of them were a little bit cheesy and kind of whatever, 80s trash, you know.
	And those kind of films had like lots of montages and stuff like that.
	But this film, I think, you know, there's a tendency for something to become popular That only works if you do it really well.
	Right?
	Like, you remember the onesie?
	Like, that girls wore in the onesie everywhere for, like, a couple of years?
	You're obsessed with the onesie.
	Have I mentioned it before?
	Uh, once.
	In private.
	Just between you and me.
	Well, I don't remember.
	But I was dating this girl who was a model.
	She had won Miss Teen Texas or something like that.
	Very beautiful girl.
	And she used to love the onesie.
	She used to wear it everywhere.
	And I had to tell her at some point, like, look, you look kind of sexy in the onesie, OK?
	Like, 99% of women do not look good in that onesie, right?
	Because of girls like you posting pictures of themselves on Instagram wearing the onesie, every girl thinks it looks so cute.
	But most girls look terrible in that.
	It looks ridiculous.
	They look like overgrown children.
	Like, this should not be popular.
	I feel like the same thing happened with Rocky IV, where they did some things that maybe are questionable.
	Like I would look back and say, like, so many freeze frames are it gets a little question, like whether that's a good direction to take cinematographically, and also like so many music montages.
	And I think it really influenced a lot of films after that, who didn't have like directors who maybe didn't have the same capacity or cinematographers that didn't have the same capacity or editors.
	And it just became this, like, tacky cliche.
	But if you want to look at 80s tacky cliches done well...
	Just a hell of a lot of fun, but very, very 80s.
	Go ahead and watch Rocky IV, I would say.
	Yeah, I think quintessentially an 80s movie.
	I mean, right up there with the likes of Red Dawn as well.
	All right.
	What else do we need to know?
	Oh, the Soviet Union was Jackson Hole, Wyoming, and him running up to the top of the mountain was in fact the Grand Tetons.
	As I mentioned already, this is the agrodome in British Columbia so the Soviet Union the
	location for the final fight was actually in Canada and then let's oh before we
	rate it I think it may be schmaltz as you said it may be saccharine but we I
	think we have to have the final speech from Rocky don't we Chris let's do it
	hit it I see a lot of people hate me and I didn't know what to feel about that
	so I guess I didn't like you much none either
	During this fight I've seen a lot of changing.
	During this whole battle, I realized that a lot has changed.
	The way you felt about me, and the way I felt about you.
	In here, there are two guys killing each other.
	But I guess that's better than 20 million.
	In here, there are two guys killing each other, but I guess that's better than 20 million.
	What I'm trying to say is that if I can change, I think that...
	And you can change.
	Everybody can change.
	And up stands the Gorbachev look-alike and says, Duh, duh, we don't need no Cold War.
	I think we had to wait for Ronald Reagan at the Brandenburg Gate a couple of years later.
	All right, golden gloves out of 10 for Rocky IV.
	Chris, as ever, rating it for a modern audience, I for the canon of great movies.
	Out of 10, Chris.
	You know, this one, this one kind of threw me because I actually, I did not think That a modern audience would like this.
	It's so dated.
	It's so 80s.
	It's so stuck in its time period that I thought, okay, if people really want 80s cheesecake, then they're going to like this film.
	But I don't know how big of an audience that is.
	But then your, one of your brilliant producers said that this was his favorite of all time 80s movies.
	I deny that.
	I deny that.
	I deny that vigorously.
	Give me a score.
	Stop bloviating.
	Stop killing time.
	I'm going to let your brilliant man in the booth give us the score.
	You can rate it for me.
	Whose show is this anyway?
	Eric, the baton has been passed.
	I guess Chris is bored with making movies great again.
	What score out of 10 for a modern audience, since you are a bit younger than both of us?
	For a modern audience, I think even the 80s cheese, like the freeze frames and montages hold up well.
	I will deduct one point for that stupid robot, but otherwise, I would give it a 9 out of 10.
	Oh, dude.
	Wow.
	I was not expecting that.
	I wasn't going to give it such a high score, but I'm happy.
	We will count to balance that.
	I'm giving it a 5.
	I'm giving it a five.
	All right, so that's we could we could average that out to a seven, I guess.
	All right.
	I'm super excited.
	So happy.
	I can't believe we've been doing this for more than a year now.
	Episode 52.
	Next week, my choice is perhaps or not.
	But yes, the greatest movie ever made.
	We're going to review and make great again.
	Slightly older film.
	Rick's Cafe.
	Casablanca.
	Are you ready, Chris?
	Casablanca.
	I am so ready.
	One of my favorite of all time films.
	Yeah, absolutely stunning.
	And if you're going to prep like we do, we do so much homework before this show.
	If you're going to spend some time preparing, look at some of the stories about how it was made.
	Because the fact that that movie came out of as catastrophically disorganized a process during the war is its own story as well.
	That's a little teaser.
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