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♪♪ Thank you for joining us on America First with today's very special guest host, Cleveland's own Bob France.
All right, thank you, Dr. G. Let's get after it right here on America First.
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We've got a lot of good stuff to talk about today.
No, let me rephrase.
I'm going to start that off.
I'm going to start that all over again.
We have a lot of bad stuff to talk about today.
It's important stuff, but it's bad stuff, because our country continues to be under attack.
I know you know this.
It's why you are America First.
It's why you listen to Dr. G every single day.
And it's why I do as well.
So there are a lot of things we're going to have to work our way through today, and I
welcome you to join us in doing so.
833-33-GORKA, we want you on the program.
We do have some great guests coming up.
Matt Boyle from Breitbart is coming up here in about, I don't know, 10 or so.
Colonel Kurt Schlichter, senior columnist at townhall.com.
He'll be joining us at the 420 mark of the second hour, so if you're in the Eastern Time
Zone, it's 420.
And then in the third hour, somebody you probably haven't heard from, but he's got a story to
tell, Austin Goss.
He writes for the Dakota Scout up in South Dakota.
And there's a story going up there now brewing around South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem, who is in a very, very serious feud with some corrupt, or allegedly corrupt, tribal council leaders there, who are allowing some pretty illegal stuff to happen on their territories.
Governor Noem is looking into it, and they are targeting her as a result.
It's a pretty interesting, and I think an important, story we'll talk about in the third hour.
But we're going to start now with something That is important to me.
For the last several years on my Cleveland radio show, I have started my broadcast with our Pledge of Allegiance, and my listeners love it.
They absolutely love it.
I always say, hey everybody, let's start our day, let's stand and face your flag.
And people would say to me sometimes, you know Bob, I'm in the car in the morning when you're doing the Pledge of Allegiance, I can't face a flag.
And somebody emailed me one day, And said, I solved that, Bob.
And I said, how so?
And he sent me a picture of a postage stamp that he stuck to his dashboard right underneath the radio.
And I said, dude, that's patriotic beyond compare.
That's awesome.
I love that.
And I told that story on the radio and a whole bunch of people started saying, well, I do this and I do that.
And they started telling me what they do.
So just a few days ago, I said, show me, I'll put together a collage, you know, a picture gallery, a photo gallery.
on my social media pages of everybody's car flag because everybody likes to see the flag
when they do our Pledge of Allegiance every morning.
Some people have the little, you know, little small flags like on a wooden stick.
They got them stuck in their visor, you know, of their car.
Some people are putting flag adornments around their rearview mirror.
Some are doing the postage stamp thing.
And I said, send me your pictures.
And just this was what, what is this, Thursday?
Tuesday I did this, and people started doing that, and I'm gonna grow that collection.
So if you can join, I'm gonna do the pledge right now.
I want you to join me.
I'm gonna tell you what I tell my morning audience every single day.
If you believe in the glory of this republic, if you believe that this country is the greatest force for good in the history of human civilization, as I do, I know Donald Trump does.
It's why he's doing what he's doing, and it's why he's enduring what he's enduring.
If you believe in that, then join us for this pledge.
If you don't, however, don't virtue-signal.
Do not virtue-signal and pretend.
In fact, rather, I would prefer that you just identify yourself so we all know who you are and get on your knee like a former ex-quarterback and a purple-haired soccer player and all the rest of the other little Marxists in the world.
Identify yourself that way.
Don't pretend.
But if you believe in the glory of this republic, seriously, join us in this pledge.
You would not believe the number of people who tell me when I go give speeches all around
Northeast Ohio.
You would not believe the number of people who come up to me and tell me, I do that pledge
every day no matter where I am.
I got mechanics who stop working on cars in their garages and they stand there at attention.
And they've sent me pictures doing it too, facing their flag and doing this thing.
So it's important to a lot of people in my local audience in Cleveland, Ohio.
I bet it's just as important to an audience of people listening to a show called America First.
So Patriots, join me for this.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
I've got a flag right in front of me in this studio, and it means every bit as much to me as it does to you, and so thank you to those who are participating.
And like I said, send me those pictures.
Go to my social media, send me a picture.
I will put them up there.
I'll put your name by them and everything else so that we can indeed identify the true patriots who believe.
Alright, I want to do something here while I can, but in the first... I listened, before we came on the air, I was listening to the press conference that Secretary of State Tony Blinken gave after Joe Biden got off of a phone call with Benjamin Netanyahu.
Okay.
I wanted to see exactly what was said between Biden and Netanyahu, so we got a paraphrase of it, obviously, and I want to find out exactly how badly this regime, the Biden regime, is selling out the only democratic ally we have in the Middle East, our strongest partner in that region of the world, a partner that is constantly under siege and under attack by the radicals.
And not just, you know, Iran, but all of the proxies that Iran funds for their attacks on Israel, from Hezbollah to Palestinian Islamic Jihad to the Houthis to Hamas, quite obviously.
I want to see exactly how badly Joe Biden is selling out Israel and our relationship with Israel by siding with the Gaza Palestinians and the Hamas terrorists, all to curry favor with Muslim American and Arab American voters that he knows he needs to win Michigan, that he knows he needs to win the presidency again.
He doesn't give a rip about Israel, he gives a rip about votes and nothing more.
So I wanted to find out exactly how this went, and I was not disappointed.
It was as bad as I expected.
Let's listen to Tony Blinken, Cut 9.
Now, of course, what happened after October 7th could have ended immediately if Hamas had stopped hiding behind civilians, released the hostages, and put down its weapons.
But, Israel is not Hamas.
Israel is a democracy.
Hamas, a terrorist organization.
And democracies place the highest value on human life.
Every human life.
As has been said, whoever saves a life, saves the entire world.
That's our strength.
It's what distinguishes us from terrorists, like Hamas.
If we lose that reverence for human life, we risk becoming indistinguishable from those we confront.
So you knew this was what you were going to get from the Biden regime.
You knew this.
They were going to create the false equivalency that says all lives that are taken are equal, and all actions that take lives are equal.
And I am here to push back against that today, as I will push back every single day.
Because the blood of every Israeli that was taken on October 7th, the blood of every Israeli Jew that's been taken in rocket attacks, and missile attacks, and terrorist attacks, and bombings, is on the hands of the Muslim terrorists that want to wipe Israel off the map.
And guess what?
The blood of all the Palestinian civilians that has been shed in the Israeli defensive maneuvers is also on the hands of the same Muslim terrorists, not on the hands of the Israelis.
No matter how badly Joe Biden needs these Muslim American votes, Arab American votes, we're not going to let him get away with normalizing And with trying to create a false equivalency between the death of Israeli Jews and the death of Palestinian quote-unquote civilians.
We're going to hit all of that.
I'm Bob France in for Dr. G on America First.
Stay here.
I I'm Seb Gawker.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Yeah, let's do exactly that.
It is 20 minutes past the hour.
I'm live in Cleveland, Ohio.
My home base is AM 1420.
The answer, I'm looking at my phone right now because I just got a text message from Seb, which is absolutely amazing.
And talk about, you talk about patriots, you talk about some of the best men among us.
Tom Homan is one of them.
Seb is at Mar-a-Lago right now with President Trump.
And for this Border 9-1-1 Gala, honoring Tom Homan.
Tom Homan, the former ICE Director under President Trump, is there, as is the entire Border 9-1-1 team.
This is a tremendous event.
It's Tom's Border 9.
Now, is it 9-11 or is it 9-1-1?
Because there's no slash.
I'm thinking it's 9-1-1 as in emergency, not 9-11 as in September 11th.
But either way, he is down there, he's emceeing this tremendous event, this unveiling of Tom Homan's 9-1-1 border organization and event, and I'll tell you what, it looks amazing.
It looks amazing.
Congratulations to Dr. G for being down there with the boss and with Tom Homan, who really
is one of the best among us.
And I hope he has such a prominent role in the next Trump administration.
We know he will.
The question is, is what are we talking about?
Homeland Security Secretary maybe?
Not exactly sure, but I love that.
So Dr. G is in Mar-a-Lago, and we are live on America First.
Thanks for being with us.
Let's bring in Matt Boyle now.
Matt Boyle is, of course, the Washington Bureau Chief of Breitbart News.
He'll join us now on America First.
Hey, Matt, how are you?
Do one. How are you, sir?
I'm great, thank you.
I appreciate you coming.
I'll tell you what, just real quick, you know, I'm watching and listening and fuming every single day when I hear Team Biden, whether it be Joe himself or the Diversity Hire Press Secretary, or whether it be Blinken or whether it be Kirby or any of them talking about the, you know, 10 million people or so that have crossed the southern borders under Biden's watch, and they keep blaming They keep blaming that bipartisan bill that came from the Senate that did not get a vote in the House and saying, that's what failed to secure this, secure the border.
So all of the crossings that you guys are complaining about, you Republicans are complaining about, they're on Republican hands.
I am getting so tired of that because you know and I know, so does Tom Homan down there, so does Sebastian Gorka, so does President Trump, that Joe Biden did not need any congressional actions to open the border and he needs no congressional actions to reclose the border, does he?
No, and by the way, it's one of the biggest lies that he's told this year, and there are plenty of whoppers, but the fact is that that Senate bill would not have done anything to make the program better.
In fact, I talked to President Trump about this a few weeks ago when I was with him at Mar-a-Lago, and he says it would have exacerbated the problem.
President Trump is exactly right.
would have codified into law the entry of more than 5,000, I think it's 7,500 a day,
migrants being brought into the country through this pipeline.
So it would have actually made the problem a lot worse that we've seen under the Biden administration.
And the fact is, is that that bill, it didn't even pass the Senate.
Like, I mean, they couldn't even get it up through a through a Senate filibuster.
So it was a total nonsensical bill.
It was just designed by the Democrats to be able to create this talking point to try to distract voters.
I think the American public is too smart.
And I think that they understand.
Uh, that this is a total lie, and that that bill would not have done anything to make the problem any better.
I mean, I hope they do, Matt.
You're a little more optimistic than I do, because the media is very, very good at lying.
And you just said it's the biggest lie they're telling.
It is also the most repeated.
And I mean, every time the border comes up, they use it.
They use it in pressers.
They use it in interviews.
They use it in comment on MS Comments and MSNBC and their networks.
They use it online.
And here's the thing, this really got to me, Matt, and there's a reason I'm bringing it up right now, because of the Tom Holman thing going on down there at Mar-a-Lago, but I just saw yesterday, or maybe it was Tuesday, the numbers for March came in.
140,000 crossings in March, which puts, by the way, in the fiscal year that started in
October, six months, over 1 million crossings, the third straight year of over 1 million
in the Biden regime.
And in March, it was 140,000.
And when that was brought up to the Biden regime, their response was, well, don't blame
us.
The Republicans wouldn't pass the border bill, the bipartisan border bill.
And what I want people to know is, even if that bill had passed, that 140,000 wouldn't
have done anything because it would have taken another 10,000 for it to kick in.
Because they said that what that bill, and you know this and I want everybody else to know this, what that bill said is that It would allow up to 5,000 border crossings a day.
And in a 30-day month, that's 150,000.
So there were 140,000 that crossed in March, and so nothing in that bill would have been even activated unless another 10,000 had come.
So that's the absurdity of this lie that the bipartisan border bill would have done something to control the border.
It would have absolutely done nothing.
Right.
It was a total sham piece of legislation.
Everybody knows that.
And frankly, all you have to do is look at the numbers that we saw at the end of the Trump administration once Trump's policies had kicked in, right?
Like, which were... I mean, it was down to a crawl, right?
Like, nothing, basically.
I mean, there was a handful of people.
I mean, look at the... Less than 45 years!
Yeah, yeah.
Best in 45 years.
I think President Trump actually tweeted out or truthed out a graphic that laid that out, the numbers, at the end of his administration.
And look, Biden took more than 60 executive actions.
We've done stories about this at Breitbart.
People can go read them.
64 executive actions, I believe.
Pardon me, pardon me for correcting you if I'm wrong.
I apologize, but I thought that number was 94.
94 different executive actions.
Blackburn might have found more.
That's the thing.
So whatever the number is, 60 something or 90 something, the point is the same.
All Biden has to do is undo those executive actions and that number will come down significantly.
Right, like the number of people crossing the border every month.
And by the way, it's going to get worse as the weather gets warmer, right?
Like what ends up happening is people start moving up.
So the spring and summer tend to be way worse than the winter months.
And so as we turn to the spring and summer now, that number is going to continue to climb every month.
So no, but it's a total lie from the Biden administration, total lie from the White House, total lie from the president.
And I think that people see it.
That's what President Trump did, that event with law enforcement officers in Michigan the other day.
And I think that the reason why he's leading in the polls in the battleground states across the country and the reason why he's leading the national polls as well is because I think the American public sees this and they want to see actual action on immigration.
Give a darn about the rhetoric used by this person or that person.
I see everybody zoning in on Trump using migrant crime as a phrase.
But who cares?
Well, animal is a big one now.
It doesn't matter what you call it.
But animal, yeah.
By the way, somebody who kills a young girl is an animal.
Thank you, right?
Like, you know what I mean?
But who cares?
Especially how he did it.
He caved in her skull.
And I hate to be graphic, and I apologize for the imagery that conjures up, but Matt, he collapsed her skull was the description that they used.
Anybody who does that is an animal, and the left is I'm freaking out as if he called every illegal border crosser an animal.
He didn't.
He called that person an animal and anybody like him who does that is an animal.
And if we enforce our immigration laws, guess what?
He wouldn't have been here to do it.
Amen.
Exactly.
It's the latest hoax.
It's just like the, you know, bloodbath hoax.
It's just like everything else that he says hoax.
Matt Boyle is our guest from Breitbart, Washington Bureau Chief.
He's going to stick with us one more segment.
Stay here.
I'm Bob Francin for Dr. G.
I'll see you next time.
Thanks for watching.
You You
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President Biden spoke a short while ago with Prime Minister Netanyahu.
The leaders discussed the situation in Gaza.
The President emphasized that the strikes on humanitarian workers and the overall humanitarian situation are unacceptable.
He made clear the need for Israel to announce a series of specific, concrete, and measurable steps to address civilian harm, humanitarian suffering, and the safety of aid workers.
He made clear that U.S.
policy with respect to Gaza will be determined by our assessment of Israel's immediate action on these steps.
He underscored as well that an immediate ceasefire is essential to stabilize and improve the humanitarian situation and protect innocent civilians.
And he urged Prime Minister Netanyahu to empower his negotiators to conclude a deal without delay to bring the hostages home.
The two leaders also discussed public Iranian threats against Israel and the Israeli people.
President Biden reaffirmed the United States' strong support for Israel in the face of these threats and our commitment to Israel's security.
Right now, there is no higher priority in Gaza than protecting civilians, surging humanitarian assistance, and ensuring the security of those who provide it.
Israel must meet this moment.
Israel must meet the moment.
It's all up to Israel, says the Biden regime.
It's all up to them to make sure that nobody gets hurt as they continue to try to defend themselves against Hamas.
Welcome back.
I'm Bob Franson for Dr. G.
That was Tony Blinken just about an hour ago, a little bit less than an hour ago,
the Secretary of State talking about Biden's conversation with Bibi Netanyahu over the next steps
in the battle in Gaza.
And we're joined once again by Matt Boyle, Washington Bureau Chief of Breitbart.
Matt, your response to what you just heard from Antony Blinken.
Everything, everything they do, everything this White House does,
that Biden does, that Blinken does, anybody in this administration,
all of it is all about Dearborn, Michigan.
It's all about Muslim voters in this uncommitted streak that we're seeing.
It's no surprise to me that this phone call happened right after More than double the margin of the 2020 election in Wisconsin just two days ago.
Voted uncommitted, or whatever the term is in Wisconsin.
It's different in different states.
Against Joe Biden in the Democrat primary.
47,000 Democrats.
These are oftentimes Muslims, but also people on the hard left, etc.
Literally, for a race that's already decided, drove their behinds to the polls Or voted by mail or went out of their way in their life for a race that's already decided.
Joe Biden's already the presumptive nominee in the Democratic Party.
He has the delegates to vote against him.
This is a major problem for them.
They have major problems going into this election.
I don't think that this will... I know that what they're trying to do is win those people back.
I don't think there's anything they can do to win those people back.
I think that some of them are considering voting for Trump, which is pretty amazing.
But also, many of them are either just not going to vote, or they're going to vote third party.
And this is a major problem.
This could be the entire election right here.
That is what they are focused on.
That is solely what they are focused on.
And they don't give a darn about Israel, or they've already forgotten what happened on 10-7.
They don't care about world security.
They don't care about public safety.
They don't care about anything.
They only care about winning the election.
That is the only thing they're focused on.
That is what this is all about.
I'm so glad to hear you say that, Matt.
I've been making the same statement on my radio show every single day because this is what it's about for them.
He doesn't care about Israeli Jews.
He doesn't care about Muslims.
He doesn't care about Palestinian civilians in Gaza.
He cares about the angry Arab-American vote, the angry Muslim-American vote that he's being too nice to Israel by essentially, you know, allowing them to continue to exist.
And the reality of this is what really gets me, though, is this statement that there are this massive population of Gazan civilians who are innocent.
You probably, Matt, saw the same surveys that I did of adults in Gaza.
They did it back in December, and now they've done another one to see if there's any change.
There's no change.
74% of Gazans Say they support Hamas, the terrorist organization.
And moreover, 95% of them say Israel has committed war crimes.
Only 5% of them say Hamas has committed war crimes.
How are these innocent civilians?
They support Hamas and everything that Hamas has done to the Israeli Jews.
again that the fact of the matter is is that uh... dot by the way they had a quote-unquote election he'd
like where where home i've been wide right like
but the fact is is that yet no i mean but again
everything everything everything they're doing is all about vote it's all about
power it's all about remaining in control i'd be people
uh... in what they're at serious red right now like and i think it's a very period
problem for them i think that airport are going to go out where
in the upcoming election it could be a major problem for that
Or they're not going to go anywhere.
They're going to stay home.
Either way, it costs Biden.
And you're exactly right.
That's all they're worried about.
Matt Boyle from Breitbart, Washington Bureau Chief.
Great stuff, my friend.
Thank you for joining us here on America First.
We'll be back.
you I'm Seb Gawker, now let's get back to the show with Bob
France.
Thank you, Dr. G. It is 17 minutes before the top of the hour on this Thursday, the fourth morning of the fourth month in the year of our Lord, 2024.
The latest hoax is a doozy.
I mean, this is, I don't know, almost as bad?
Maybe worse?
I haven't decided yet.
Then the bloodbath hoax.
You know, the idea that Donald Trump said it's going to be a bloodbath for the car manufacturers after, before and after all context pointing to the car manufacturers if Biden wins and if Biden allows Millions of Chinese cars to be made in Mexico with the Chinese controlling the components of all the electric car batteries, and it's going to just decimate the American auto industry.
It's going to be a bloodbath, such a common term, and what they did in trying to claim that Trump was threatening A massive war in the streets, a civil war where murders are going to happen and blood is going to be spilled if he doesn't win the presidency.
I thought that was bad, and it was.
I'm trying to decide which one is worse.
That one or what they're doing with his animals comment now.
The left is claiming that Donald Trump says illegal aliens are animals.
That's it.
Robbing them of their humanity.
All over CNN, all over MSNBC, all over the left-wing news networks, and of course the left-wing social media networks, which is darn near all of them.
He said that these people aren't humans, they're animals.
He dehumanized them.
This disgusting person.
By the way, They themselves called Donald Trump subhuman.
They called Donald Trump Hitler.
They called Donald Trump, you know, some sort of a murdering dictator.
But they're angry when Donald Trump refers to an actual murderer as an animal.
What did Donald Trump actually say?
Let's listen to this guy.
The 22 year old nursing student in Georgia who was barbarically murdered by an illegal alien animal.
The Democrats say, please don't call them animals.
They're humans.
I said, no, they're not humans.
They're not humans.
They're animals.
Nancy Pelosi told me that.
She said, please don't use the word animal, sir, when you're talking about these people.
I said, I'll use the word animal, because that's what they are.
As you heard, very directly, he was talking about the killer of Lake and Riley.
And by the way, he still knows the name of Lake and Riley.
I say that as an aside, because I had Fox News on in the background a little bit earlier today as I was preparing this show.
One of their left-wing contributors, Richard Fowler, Still doesn't know Laken Riley's name.
He called her Lincoln Riley three times.
Lincoln Riley, who happens to be a college football coach.
Three times!
They still won't take the time to learn her name, but they'll build statues of George Floyd!
Who overdosed on a multitude of drugs and died on the ground, and they blamed it on a knee asphyxiating him.
I don't want to re-litigate that whole thing, although I will tell you it's a load of K-E-R-R-A-P-P crap, but they built statute.
Lakin Riley is an innocent person who, by the way, this illegal alien who killed her, he didn't shoot her.
He didn't, you know, kill her in any sort of humane way.
And I hate to say the words again, but you need to hear it.
Because it's animalistic!
He collapsed her skull.
That's how badly he beat her and smashed her head into the ground.
He collapsed her skull.
That's animalistic.
Donald Trump said he's an animal.
Then he said, they told me not to use that word, not to call them animals.
I'm going to call them animals.
He didn't say the non-murderers.
He didn't say every border crosser.
He didn't say every asylum seeker or every newcomer.
You notice how they keep softening what an illegal alien is?
It's still on the books as illegal alien.
Then it had to become undocumented immigrant.
Then it had to be undocumented worker.
We don't even need people to know they were immigrants.
Undocumented workers.
Then it became asylum seekers and now it's newcomers.
They just soften it every single time.
Trump wasn't talking about those people, was he?
You heard him.
President said, the brutal murder of Lake and Riley by an animal, an illegal alien animal.
Yes, he was exactly that.
But they're going to use this to again demonize him and make him out to be the bad guy.
What's the reality?
We know the reality.
So I just thought it was important to point that out after Matt Boyle and I discussed that.
So if you've got thoughts on that aspect of this too.
And by the way, one final wrap on this.
I kind of had to go over it really quickly when I was talking to Matt because of the clock.
The 140,000 crossings that were counted in March, illegal border crossings.
These are the people who came in here illegally, not the ones who came through the ports of entry claiming asylum, which by the way is also illegal because they're lying.
But we're talking about the ones who came between the ports of entry who were caught and then told you can't stay here until they are told we're seeking asylum.
And then they say, okay, and they process them through and let them come in.
So this $140,000 in March was significant for two reasons.
It put over one million the number of illegal crossings in this fiscal year 2024, the one that started in October, right?
Fiscal year 2024, over a million illegal border crossings.
That, by the way, is the third consecutive year we have had at least one million, and obviously many, many more than just one million.
That's just in six months, by the way.
Third straight year we've had, I want to clarify that.
One million crossings in six months.
It's averaging well over two million per year.
That's why they came up after 2023 ended and said over seven, around seven and a half million illegal crossings in the Biden years, which does not count the known gotaways.
And it certainly does not count the unknown gotaways, the ones that are really the most terrifying to think about.
So it's significant because it put him over that one million milestone for the six month period in this fiscal year.
But it's also significant because it is still $10,000 short of $150,000.
And why does that matter?
I'll repeat what I said to Matt.
The border protection bill, which was in no way going to secure our border, the bipartisan
bill that they brought out of the Senate and that Mike Johnson said, I'm not taking that
up on the House side, and everybody said Trump told the Republicans not to take it up because
it'll hurt him in the election if they control the border now, would have done nothing to
control the border, because it allowed up to 5,000 border crossings per day before they
would do anything to try and seal it off.
Well, what's 5,000 times 30 days?
It's 150,000.
So they're saying this 140,000 people wouldn't have happened if we had passed the border
bill.
Yes, it would have.
And so would 10,000 more before anything could be done to try to turn off the spigot.
It's pretty important that people know the reality here.
Know what the math is here.
Know what the truth is here.
And that's why we're here.
That's why America First is here.
I'm Bob Franson for Dr. G. We'll go to your calls next.
Thank you.
I'm Seb Gawker.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
Alright, let's do that.
3-54, excuse me, 54 minutes past, 6 minutes before the top of the hour.
Depending on where you are, it might not be the 3.
The phone number stays the same no matter where you are.
833-33-GORKA.
We're going to go right to the calls now.
Bob Franz sitting in in Cleveland, Ohio for Dr. G, who's down at Mar-a-Lago with President Trump and with Tom Holman.
Really important event down there tonight that Dr. G is emceeing.
We're going to go to Philadelphia on Line 1.
Nancy, we find you there waiting on America First.
Thank you for calling, Nancy.
Go right ahead.
Hi, Bob.
I had to call because I keep hearing, you know, that the Biden administration seeming 180 degree turn against Israel is primarily because of voters in Michigan.
And I'm not buying that, because is this why Obama turned over $1.7 billion in our taxpayer money and cash to Iran years ago?
Is that why John Kerry was in Iran multiple times during President Trump's administration?
You know, there are at least twice as many Jewish people and good Christian people in this country as there are Muslims in Aurora, Michigan.
And personally, I think it's about follow the money.
Well, I'll tell you what.
You're not wrong insofar as the fact that not only did Obama give money to Iran, but so did Biden.
Okay?
Biden gave access to what is it?
Some ten billion dollars, I think it was.
Excuse me.
That they unfroze for the Iranians who are indeed funding all of these, you know, these terror groups who are committing these attacks against Israel.
So it could be argued, and I think this is what your point is, it could be argued that it's not just about the voters, it's about trying to also destroy Israel, or at least being indifferent toward what happens to Israel.
And I think there's a fair point there.
However, because of the uh... the the brutality of october seventh and what so many people have been made aware of it wasn't just you know going in there and killing people it was torturing and and and dismembering and raping women to death literally uh... all on camera and all of these kinds of things because of the barbarism there the president and his team know that and thank you for the call nancy i'm gonna keep finishing my response here as we get toward the top of the hour
They know that the outrage here, even for people who might not necessarily give a rip about Jews or about Israel, was palpable.
And so they came out initially and were really, really opposed to this, and they condemned it.
But once they realized that this was going to lead to the response in Gaza, and now Arab Muslims were going to be in jeopardy, you heard the Arab... Look at the Hamas squad!
Look at Jihad Omar and uh... and uh... uh... uh... uh... what's-her-name uh... uh... uh... uh... Rashida Sharia Tlaib.
Look at these individuals who are part of the Hamas caucus.
They're all turning against Biden for daring to back Israel and so now it's starting to result in votes that they absolutely have to have in places like Michigan if they have any chance of retaking the White House or winning the White House again.
So, I think you're right.
It's a lot about their policy toward Iran, but it's also about votes here in the United States.
Thanks so much for the call.
call, our two coming up.
We'll be back.
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We'll see you next time.
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Hey, what's, um... Eric, or Alex, what's the feeling on the America First team about the NFL draft?
You guys excited about it at all?
Um, I, full disclosure, I don't really follow sports that closely, so I am not qualified to talk about this subject.
Hopefully Alex can fill you in on that.
Me neither.
Jeff is our sports guy.
Jeff is the sports guy?
Okay.
I used to be a sports guy.
And the reason I'm asking, by the way, is I don't give a flying rip about the NFL draft.
I don't give a flying rip about the NFL because it's a woke league.
It is a woke sports league.
It's a multi-billion dollar company that essentially has turned itself into a social justice organization.
A couple of years ago, after George Floyd overdose, they did the whole Black Lives Matter
on the field, and they put it on their uniforms, they put it on their helmets, and then they
said okay, it's a little bit extreme because Black Lives Matter is a Marxist organization
that isn't helping black people at all.
So they changed it to end racism now, outside the end zones.
And then I think they tried to dumb that, that down and bring that back to like end hate or something, but they're still promoting and donating and pushing social justice causes, including everybody's favorite acronym, DEI, right?
That's what the league is doing.
So the reason I ask if you're paying attention to the draft, and I'm not, is because I want something to happen here.
It's coming up on April 25th, so I think that's what, about three months from today,
or excuse me, three weeks from today.
And I saw on a local newspaper website here in Cleveland, Ohio.
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There was a promotion of a newspaper article that was written here locally.
I don't know why we're getting noise there, but anyway.
The tweet from Cleveland.com, which is the online companion of the local newspaper, Cleveland Plain Dealer, reads this way.
DEI programs do not reduce the quality of the workforce, nor do they deter us from finding the best person for the job.
What they do is remind us that greatness comes in a variety of packages."
End quote.
And they have this tweet with the backdrop of the NFL Draft 2024 logo.
And it just got me to thinking.
Their argument here is that people should think of DEI as kind of like a scouting report.
They're looking at the different strengths and so on and so forth of the various applicants for jobs and positions in corporations and in schools and so forth, right?
So it got me to thinking.
Between the woke social justice NFL, social justice promoting NFL, in the mainstream media like this, and the draft coming up in three weeks, here's what I'm wondering.
Why won't the NFL walk the walk?
Why do they only talk the talk?
Why don't they mandate that every team that is drafting on April 25th to fill their rosters with new players, why don't they mandate that they draft using DEI standards?
Because typically the NFL drafts based on Fire it!
They draft based on talent!
Ability!
Not based on what somebody looks like!
Not based on their skin color, not based on their hair color, not based on their sexual proclivities, not based on their personal lives.
They draft them based on whether or not they can play football better than the other guys that the other teams are drafting.
I think that's very, very short-sighted.
I think that's very, very shallow thinking.
Because they're promoting DEI and all of the other avenues.
So I want to know, if the National Football League is going to tell its teams on April 25th, they have to draft non-traditional people onto their teams, including and especially those who bring diversity.
For example, women!
They're roughly half the population, yet totally unrepresented in NFL football teams.
You know who else is unrepresented in NFL football teams?
Trans people!
Trans men and trans women!
They're telling everybody else, D.E.I.
is the thing.
D.E.I.
is the winner.
D.E.I.
is what we have to push.
That's what we have to promote.
Okay, for the sake of diversity, put a trans person on the football team.
For the sake of diversity, let's make sure that the National Football League and all of your teams that are drafting on April 25th have to draft according to the breakdown for the purposes of equity, mind you.
That's the E in D.I.E.
And don't forget inclusivity.
But they have to draft and fill their roster with something that is at least close to the demographics of the United States of America.
And right now, from what I can tell, the National Football League is around 75% black.
It's around 20% white, and the rest of it is a hodgepodge of Hispanics, very few Asians, very few Pacific Islanders, and any of the other racial demographics.
So that's what the league is now, but that's not society.
In society, white people make up what, about 60%?
So 60% of the positions have to be filled, 60% of the draft picks should be white.
And what, about 13% I think black?
13% of the draft pick should be black.
Less for the Hispanic population, less for the Asian population, and so on and so forth.
If you're gonna talk the talk, Roger Goodell and all of these team owners, then start freaking walking it.
Why is it that they can tell corporate America to use DEI when it comes to filling positions on boards, hiring people to work in small businesses, admitting students to school?
Oh, there's too many Asians and white people who are admitted to Harvard, so we gotta, in the name of equity...
In the name of inclusivity, in the name of diversity, we got to stop putting those people in and start taking people who are less qualified.
What's all this merit stuff about anyway?
Heck with that merit, heck with that qualifications, heck with those accomplishments.
There should be an equitable outcome for everybody.
They do that for the classes, but they don't do it for the sports teams, do they?
They don't do it for the teams that are on the field after their classes, and they certainly don't do it at the National Football League level.
Just a thought.
Wouldn't you like to see the National Football League drafting this year the way DEI says that they should?
By the way, we've got a clip on DEI here that I think is a really, really... or do we?
Yeah, we do.
Cut number two.
Charlamagne Tha God, who is a radio host, is sitting in now as one of the rotating hosts, I guess, on Comedy Central.
I don't watch Comedy Central, but I do know this happened because we do have social media.
Charlamagne Tha God actually dared to take on the DEI question on the, uh, what's the show called on Comedy Central?
The, um, The Daily Show.
Thank you.
The Daily Show.
I forgot about it.
I remember when Craig Kilbourne used to host it and it was kind of fun then.
Now it's just stupid.
But at any rate, here's cut two.
Over 900 studies have shown that DEI programs don't make the workplace better for minorities.
In fact, it can actually make things worse because of the backlash effect.
Remember D.A.R.E.
from school?
Y'all remember D.A.R.E.?
Yeah.
She said, woo!
D.E.I.
training is like D.A.R.E.
for racism.
And you all know how effective that was.
Yeah, not exactly a fair comparison there, but it is interesting.
They are saying that there is a backlash, and how could there not be?
And worse yet, I had an interview yesterday with a doctor and a cardiologist professor, cardiology professor at Temple University that I talked to yesterday.
He's got African ancestry, but he's not quote-unquote black.
And he was given the opportunity to check the box for this research grant that he was applying for, which would have given him extra points.
And he refused to do it, because he wants to achieve and get grants based on the quality of his work, not on his ethnicity.
He did not want to check the box that says, hey, I'm part African, because he wanted to make it on his own merit.
That's exactly the way it's supposed to be.
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One of my good friends, all the way out, I still don't know why in the hell he still lives in the feted state of California, but that's where he practices law.
He also writes as a senior columnist for townhall.com.
He is Colonel Kurt Schlichter.
Colonel Kurt, welcome back.
How are you, my friend?
Hey, I'm doing great.
When are you going to flee?
I already have a house in Texas.
How many houses do I have to buy?
Did you keep the one in California, though?
Oh yeah.
I mean, I'm in it now because it flooded out, and I'm in alternative living arrangements.
But you're paying tax dollars to Gavin Newsom, brother.
That's what I can't quite figure out.
Look, California was designed to enrich lawyers.
Okay?
I am a class traitor.
I am exactly who Gavin Newsom and his band of corrupt, moronic cronies want to enrich.
So it's like, I mean, I'm collateral damage, I guess, to them because they, you know, they do everything they can to make me prosperous.
And if dumb people are going to do dumb things, I'm perfectly happy to take dumb money.
Take their money.
Yeah, I'm with you, my friend.
I gotcha.
I gotcha.
I just like to poke fun at some of the Californians who have been left behind.
So many have left and come to Texas.
They're going to Tennessee.
They're going all over the country.
Most of the activists are gone.
We used to have a vibrant community back when Andrew Breitbart was here, and that's largely gone.
But, you know, I'm constantly meeting people who turn out to be conservative.
You kind of figure out that they share your views, and then it's okay.
And in absolute numbers, because, you know, remember, most leftists are too dumb to understand But, you know, even if 25% of California is conservative, that's like 9 million conservatives.
That's a lot of conservatives, an absolute number.
Yeah, it's a good point.
And you know, I do.
I give you credit, too, because you're courageous because you stay there and you try to grow that number and you try to do what you can as an activist to, you know, through that through that number.
But boy, it must be just hard.
It's just hard.
I know it is to feel like you don't have any power.
You're going to cast your votes for the right people.
You're going to vote for Steve Garvey for senator over Adam Schiff.
But you know, you're going to be overwhelmed by the radicals who are going to vote for the pencil next.
So that's the only thing I give you credit for being willing to stick it out.
So let's talk about Transgender Day of Visibility.
Your latest article for TownHall.com, Kurt Schlichter, used their calculated insults against them.
Who are we talking about here?
Look, I'm perfectly willing to think that Joe Biden's so stupid that he wouldn't realize Sunday was Easter when he signed this Uh, mentally ill day of visibility, uh, thing.
And, uh, but no, I mean, it was a calculated insult.
Uh, and then they were like, I don't understand why you're so upset about it.
Oh, do you think it was a bad thing?
Well, no, it's a good thing.
Yeah.
It was one of those, uh, we're not doing that, but if we were, it'd be a good thing.
Calculated by who?
Colonel Kurt?
Calculated by Biden or by his people?
The whole crew of ruling class leftists hates us.
And, you know, a lot of them just enjoy tormenting normal people.
They get off on it.
That's part of the fun of communism, was always sticking it to people who aren't mental defectives, losers, scumbags, you know, the typical things that communists are.
And the thing is, for us, you know, people who are aware, people who are based, you know, we know they hate us.
The normal people who don't participate in politics, they're the ones that our reaction needs to be directed to.
We're not going to convince the leftists that they're bad and they should stop doing this stuff.
They can't.
They can only be defeated.
No, we have to convince normal people about the reality of this horrible situation.
And things like designate the most holy day in Christianity as this day for ridiculous perverts and psychos is The kind of thing where normal people go, you know, that's just not right.
Um, so it's a wake up call to them and that's how we have to use it.
But for us to actually get upset about it, you might as well get upset about a great white shark, you know, seal.
I mean, that's what that's just what they do.
You have to use it against them.
And I think we've pretty effectively done that.
Do you think, Colonel Kurt, that Biden knew what he had signed?
That it was a proclamation declaring the Trans Visibility Day or whatever on Easter?
Because he sounded almost believable when he said, I did not do that.
I wonder if people who are pulling his strings slide things underneath his pen inside of his shaky right hand and he scribbles something down and say, just scribble here, sir.
I just wonder if he even knew.
Speaker Johnson said he doesn't think he knew.
I have no doubt that it was...
Uh, could be put out without his approval.
I think he would have approved it had he been conscious, but he's a desiccated old perverted zombie, so he doesn't know anything.
Well, it could be either way.
I think it's irrelevant at the end.
I did like how he lied about it.
I never did anything like that.
And the regime media is like, no, they didn't do anything like that.
And also they did do something like that.
And it was a good thing.
Yeah.
And that's, that's the best part about it.
Are you lying or do you just think we're stupid?
I mean, are you stupid or do you think we're stupid?
I mean, which is it?
Because somebody's stupid.
Yeah, well, they really do.
They think we're stupid enough to fall for that.
What I don't get, though, Kurt, is just in general, and I'm sorry, and I'm truly not trying to be crass about this, but why in the world is this the only one of the listed psychological disorders that the sufferer is told, be proud of that, go flex that, be more of that, go recruit more people?
Because they don't say that to manic depressives.
They don't say that to bipolar disorder sufferers.
They don't say that to multiple personality disorder sufferers.
They say, let's treat that, let's work on that.
But with these people, they say, go team!
The purpose of trans is to transgress.
Okay, they don't care about these people.
I mean, there have always been people with mental illness, and there have always been people who are perverts.
That's the two groups that make up the trans thing.
Some are just outright perverts.
Some are just sick individuals who could use our help and our pity.
But They are useful because they're so alien and so weird that there's actually a value for the leftists to affirm it, because that's a huge show of proof.
You are sacrificing your own dignity and your own honor and your own honesty to affirm something you know is false.
But it is also powerful because they can leverage it to force other people to affirm something that everyone knows is untrue, false, and evil.
And that's a classic totalitarian technique.
If you can make people lie, especially if everyone knows they're lying, well, that's a huge way to take power over.
Colonel Kurt Schlichter is our guest.
Kurt, let's stick around and do another segment.
You are one of the most unapologetic supporters of Israel on all of social media.
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So Kurt, I wanted to ask you about Gaza, and I'll do that very briefly here, because you are one of the most unapologetic supporters of Israel, and not just supporting Israel, but essentially saying, go get Hamas.
I'm tired of hearing about how we have to, you know, Israel has to, you know, be more concerned about collateral damage and about the innocent Palestinian civilians and so forth, and they should be proportional in their response.
You don't give a flying rip about any of them, and you say, go get them, Bibi Netanyahu.
You saw Tony Blinken today, after Biden talked to Netanyahu, saying that America's policy toward Israel is going to be determined by whether or not they do agree to this ceasefire that they want right now, and whether they do not, you know, go into Rafah and continue the pursuit of the terrorists who conspired against Israel and carried out that attack on 10-7.
Well, I think it's disgusting that the Democrats are now sacrificing our ally Israel for a few votes in Michigan.
Israel should tell Joe Biden to go pound sand, and then they should go pound Hamas.
You know, this idea that somehow Israel has a moral obligation to be defeated is stupid and morally illiterate.
Israel has no moral obligation to care more about Palestinians or Palestinian adjuncts or people hanging around the Palestinians than the Palestinians themselves do.
Israel—this problem gets solved by Israel going into Rafah, destroying Hamas, and winning this war.
And frankly, I think Israel has held back too much.
If I was the commander-in-chief, this would be over.
Decisively.
Always.
I feel the same way.
I feel the same way.
And if it was American forces under my command, for 10 generations, Palestinian moms would scare their children by telling them that the Americans are coming if they don't behave.
You go and rape and murder my fellow citizens, you're all going to die.
I mean, this isn't some new revolutionary idea.
This is how you deal with savages.
The idea that somehow we've evolved out of this is exactly the opposite of the truth.
This empowers people to go on mass murder sprees, which they will do in the United States.
I have a book on that called The Attack.
They are going to do it here.
This invites that as much as opening the border invites it.
Bob Gates said Joe Biden has been wrong on every foreign policy question in the last 50 years.
The only good thing I'll ever say about Joe Biden is he is remarkably consistent, because he is absolutely wrong about this.
Israel should ignore the United States and wipe out Hamas.
And frankly, I think Israel has mishandled this from the beginning.
On October 8, it should have invaded Lebanon and annihilated Hezbollah and made Gaza a secondary I would have written off the hostages day one and just said, well, they're all dead.
And in fact, I think most of the ones they think are being killed now are in fact dead.
You beat me to the question.
I was going to ask you if you think they left any of them alive anyway.
Yeah, but I would treat them as if they were dead.
I would, if it was me, Hamas would be on its knees begging me to take the survivors back and stop.
And I might.
I would follow you with that policy, Colonel Kurt, and I would follow you into battle too,
because I completely agree with you.
This is not... war is supposed to be a zero-sum game, and what was done to them on 10-7 should
leave... there should be no doubt whatsoever of what they are able to do to protect against
an October 8th, an October 9th, and an October 1000th, which Hamas has promised.
Kurt, I've only got a minute, a minute and a half here.
Briefly, summarize the race hustlers are terrified that Trump will end racism.
Your latest column for Town Hall.
Yeah, we have a real problem with one of the great achievements of America is the largest ethnic group did not identify as an ethnic group.
It identified as a nation and it invited other people of other ethnic groups to be part of it, e pluribus unum, out of many one.
And that this is a remarkable achievement, which by this focus on whiteness, you know, which is an idiotic term, they are basically Creating an ethnic group out of the majority, where before it wasn't an ethnic group.
And by oppressing it economically, academically, criminally, they are going to radicalize.
We're going to have to have people read your column, Colonel Kurt, because we're out of time here.
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Well, good afternoon, sir.
I just want to say I happen to be a transsexual woman, and I cannot stand what Brandon did with the superseding Easter today that Jesus has risen for Trans Day of Visibility.
That day is unnecessary to begin with.
And I don't like the way him and the left is pandering to a transsexual versus a transgender person.
Yeah, I'm glad you said that, because I was going to ask you if you misspoke.
I thought transsexual was a taboo term.
It's transgender now.
Well, the transgender movement, they superseded what transsexual was.
You have gender identity disorder, which is a real medical mental health disorder, but that was changed in 2013 to gender dysphoria because they didn't like that stigma of mental health disorder.
I do.
I live with the disorder.
I found God.
That's why I'm very stable today.
And they're telling us all this and they're telling children, hey, trans is great.
It's like insane.
No, it's not.
It's brutal.
Why do I want to celebrate living with a disorder?
And most of us are just trying to live and blend in.
But you have Blair White, Sarah Higdon, Jessica Gill, Buck Angel and others.
We need to speak out because what they're doing to children in society is wrong.
Well, I'm really glad to hear you say that, as somebody who is suffering through this disorder yourself.
Let me ask you, how long have you been living like this?
Let's see, I'm 57.
I came out to my spouse about five years ago.
I knew who I was all my life, but when I went to college, I was on the national championship team.
I covered major league and minor league sports for the media here in Connecticut.
In my sport, I'm in four bowling hall of fames.
And I got to bowl some of the major professional tournaments.
I was scared to death to come out at that time.
But I was living with something that was in me all that time.
I tried to hide it.
And I got to the point, sir, where I couldn't.
Are you undergoing treatment for this?
Here's what I'm asking you, and I really appreciate you being so upfront and honest about this.
People who call people like me transphobes, because I condemn this growing social contagion of transgenderism, and I believe that 99% of it is truly a social contagion.
There's not all of these people, particularly young people, who actually are suffering from Gender, you know identity disorder or gender dysphoria.
I think they are all being caught up in the fad that it is But so people will call me a transphobe for saying that and I have coined the term Trans compassionate.
I am NOT a transphobe.
I don't hate nor fear trans people.
I am compassionate I want them to be treated in the same way that I want anybody else with an actual mental disorder to be treated psychologically Since a psychological disorder requires psychological treatment, not bodily mutilation.
So, are you under treatment and have you been?
Are you trying to reconcile your brain and your body and bring them to oneness?
Well, I get called a transphobe too, sir.
I've had plenty of mental health therapy and the number of people, I'm one of the It's under half a percent of our population which is under proper mental health care, and that's what we don't see with the young kids.
Proper mental health care where you transition to live as the opposite sex, your true sex.
But you cannot change your biological sex either.
No, you can't.
Or tell kids, hey, you can change your gender now.
You, and we should never, you know, interrupting.
Did you undergo, did you go on to undergo any procedures, any drugs or any of that stuff?
Or are you just basically, I'm not trying to insult you when I say this.
Are you just kind of a crossdresser?
No, I'm on hormone replacement therapy.
You are.
Okay.
So I had a surgical procedure, which I needed.
You have to get additional mental health therapy and letters written.
I had that in.
And confirmed, but I lost my job two years ago when I was being outsourced, so I had to cancel it.
I haven't pursued it.
I think God was telling me, it's not your time.
Something else is going to happen.
So, I've been patiently with that.
Well, I'll tell you what, it's a really unique, and thank you for your phone call from Middletown, Connecticut, Christine.
I appreciate it.
uh... the candor in your serious uh... situation there i do uh... and and if
anybody wants to respond to this too i would love to hear this but i mean
i heard a person there said she found god or he found god he's a transsexual
woman that means he's a man who thinks he's a woman is the way i'm
interpreting that but this uh... this person changes named christine but said
he found god and uh...
you know is is completely against this trans movement in particularly what is being done to kids
And I'm wondering, again, if you really, really have turned to God.
You do realize God doesn't make mistakes like this.
God doesn't put people with a certain brain and identity into the wrong bodies.
And if there is, it's a case of a birth deformity or abnormality.
And it's not okay to say, I'm going to think that God messed up and I'm going to correct it by going in for surgery.
There are birth defects, don't get me wrong.
There are, you know, they used to call them in a negative way, I think, hermaphrodites, and now they call them what, intersex or something, where you might have male and female genitalia?
But again, that's as much of a birth defect as somebody born with six fingers on one hand.
And that happens, believe it or not.
That happens.
And it doesn't change the fact that human beings have five fingers in each hand.
Somebody who has six is an abnormality.
It's a birth defect.
It is not something, you know, like being born in the wrong body.
It's just not.
So, I don't know.
I give respect to people who acknowledge what they are is a mental illness, a psychological defect.
And I hope, because I'm trans-compassionate, I have compassion for people.
Not hatred nor enmity.
I don't want anything bad to happen to somebody who's trans.
I want them to get the treatment that they deserve so they are no longer trans and they can be comfortable in the body that God gave them.
Bob Frantz in for Dr. G. Phone lines are still open.
and we'll come right back to you after this.
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I love it.
Great stuff.
Welcome Bob France in for Dr. G. So if you got a little frustrated, and I did, by listening to Tony Blinken and his discussion with the media of Trump's call with Bibi Netanyahu about the Israeli-Gaza conflict right now, You're going to love this.
This is John Kirby, who is kind of basically the real spokesperson for the Biden administration.
They have the diversity higher up there most of the time, but John Kirby is the only one that they bring out when they want actual information to be disseminated.
He got into it a little bit today with Peter Doocy, who is quickly becoming a star for his willingness to do this.
Let's hear this clip.
I'm not going to talk about intelligence matters, Peter.
I think you can understand.
war in Israel or did President Biden warn Netanyahu today about an Iranian plan to attack
inside Israel within 48 hours?
I'm not going to talk about intelligence matters, Peter.
I think you can understand.
But they did talk about a very public and very viable, real threat by Iran to Israel's
security.
It's really as far as I can go.
On October 7th, President Biden said, my administration's support for Israel's security is rock solid and unwavering.
That is not true anymore, correct?
No, it is true.
Still true today.
How is his support unwavering, but you're also reconsidering policy choices?
Both can be true.
They cannot be true.
They're completely different things.
No.
No, no.
I'm sorry.
He is wavering.
How can you have different policies and still say it's unwavering?
If your policy was, go Israel, go.
What happened to you on October 7th was unacceptable, it was murderous, it was torturous, it was rape, it was all of these things, and it is unacceptable what the Iran proxies did in Hamas.
It's like, go Israel, go.
That was the original policy.
Then a little while after that it was, you know, we might want to try to make sure that your response under Go Israel Go is proportional to what they did.
Don't go like too far and go into too many places in Gaza, you know, just make your point and then call it a day.
And then it was, oh, okay, well, you know, we see what you're doing here, but you might want to consider a ceasefire because we still have a few other things we have to work out here with respect to, you know, the Palestinian civilians.
To now, unequivocally, there must be a ceasefire.
They're changing their policy and becoming more and more anti-Israel every day in the Biden regime.
Every day.
Peter Doocy called him out on it.
He has absolutely wavered.
You said unwavering.
You have wavered every step of the way.
Between October 8th and now on April 4th, you have done nothing but gotten weaker and weaker and weaker in support of Israel.
For crying out loud, Chuck Schumer called for Bibi Netanyahu to be voted out of office before there's even an election.
Get rid of him because we don't like the way he's handling this thing.
Why?
Well, Matt Boyle said it earlier.
Kurt Schlichter said it earlier.
I said it earlier.
You probably are thinking it right now, because it's all about votes.
Arab Americans and Muslim Americans, particularly those living in Michigan, are going to decide whether or not that battleground state goes to Biden or not, and thus, whether or not they win re-election.
That's why.
Hour number three is coming up.
Stay here.
I'm Bob Francin for Dr. G on America First.
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Thank you.
Well, thank you for that kind introduction once again, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
I do feel special whenever I'm asked to sit in on America First.
Thanks so much for being with us.
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So now before we do anything else, as we get into our number three of America First, I
had a really interesting conversation in my program this morning with my producer, Seth
Williams.
And what prompted me to bring it back up now to you and Seb Gorka's massive national audience
is something I heard Alex and Guy and Eric talking about on the team here in between
segments about an hour ago.
I heard them talking about which war is going to be the next war.
You know, we're obviously watching a war in Eastern Europe, we're looking at the war happening in the Middle East, now there's talk about whether or not there's going to be a war in the South Pacific, whether or not we're going to have a Taiwanese and Chinese conflict, and then one of these guys, I don't remember which one of you guys said it, said maybe civil.
Civil war?
Here in the United States, that could be the next war.
So I heard that, and I want to tie this to the conversation I had with my producer this morning, and I want to ask you about it right now at 833-33-GORKA.
Do you think there will ever be an armed rebellion, revolution if you will, against a tyrannical government here in the United States?
Now let me give you the backdrop of that conversation.
I was reading a story about the new, what I'm going to call, election infection.
Because there wasn't a big concern about a new pandemic coming in 2021.
There wasn't a new concern about a new pandemic coming in 2022.
They still were trying to sell us on COVID at that time.
There wasn't one even in 2023, but here we are at a new election year and hmm, how about that?
How coincidental.
There was a massive pandemic that allowed and forced ballot drop boxes to be used and mail-in voting, things that have never been allowed before.
In 2020, in an election cycle in which Donald Trump, the man that the left has painted as the new version of Hitler, worse than Hitler, worse than Mao, worse than Stalin, worse than Pol Pot, worse than Genghis Khan as far as I know, right?
And they did what they had to do to be able, in my view, to steal an election.
And they used, in large part, the threat of people gathering in crowded places like, you know, polling places, voting booths, to foster in the age of mail-in balloting, right?
Well, here we are in 2024, and Donald Trump is on the ballot again.
And what do we have here?
We have European health agencies describing the Avian A influenza virus, a new bird flu.
that they're saying has acquired the ability to spread efficiently from birds to mammals,
including humans. And if it is allowed to do so, large-scale transmission could occur
due to the lack of immune defenses against H5 viruses in humans.
So the European Health Organization said, to prevent a risk of the bird flu pandemic,
the agency recommends taking steps such as increased surveillance, enhancing surveillance
targeting humans and animals.
In other words, watching where you go.
Why are they surveilling where you go?
I think you can figure this out.
Because eventually they're going to want to tell you where you can and you cannot go.
Stop me if you've seen this movie before, right?
And then, ensuring access to rapid diagnostics, promoting collaboration between animal and human sectors, and implementing preventive measures such as, drumroll please, vaccinations.
Again, stop me if you've seen this movie before.
They're pushing all of this now here in the spring, early spring of 2024, just seven months before we decide the future of this republic, and largely the future of the world.
And I brought this story up, and I was talking about it with my producer this morning, and he said, at what point are the people going to say enough is enough and do something about this?
You know what my question to Seth was?
The same question it is to you right now.
What do you want them to do?
We're going to have to push back some.
What does pushback look like?
Well, we have to do something.
And I said, they tried to do something three years ago.
It was called January 6th.
They tried to do something.
They tried to stop the theft of an election, and essentially the theft of power over the world.
And they tried to do something about it.
What did it result in?
It resulted in how many American citizens, including those who did nothing violent, did nothing illegal other than exist on the Capitol grounds that day, they have them in jail cells right now, in gulags, where they have been sitting for over 1,100 days without a trial.
Their constitutional rights to a speedy trial being violated, their constitutional rights to access to an attorney being violated, their
constitutional rights not to be tortured by being left in freezing cold conditions 23 hours a day in
again gulag style things that would make Gitmo look preferable.
Why do you think they're doing that to those people?
And it's not for those people.
They're doing that so that you and other people, you and me, we don't ever think about challenging
the government again.
If they want to steal an election, they're going to steal an election.
If they want to change the electors, they're going to change the electors.
If they want to change the rules, they're going to change the rules.
And don't you dare even think about challenging us.
So I ask, Seth, what would you want us to do?
I'm not going to sit here and advocate for an armed rebellion.
There was no armed rebellion on January 6th.
It was what?
It was a peaceful and patriotic protest, make your voices heard, that's all it was, that was turned into something more chaotic and something more violent by hundreds of feds in the crowd urging people to go in, go in, go in, go in, go in, and then really nervous cops firing upon the crowd before anything violent had even happened, which led to people obviously pushing back.
So what do you exactly, again, to my friend and producer Seth, what do you expect people to do?
If they try to steal another election, if they try to keep you home again because of the new pandemic, the avian flu, the bird flu, if they try to say, nope, don't bother getting in line, we're not going to let you, you mail in your ballots.
They do it again.
What are you going to do?
Seth said, well, people are going to have to rise up, aren't they?
What does rise up mean?
Are we looking at 1776 again?
Because we're going to be outnumbered.
We're going to be outgunned, quite literally and figuratively.
We are going to be out-powered, if you will.
So I don't want anybody to think about that anyway.
I don't think there's a new civil war coming, but I do have to ask, what are you prepared to do?
What are we prepared to do if they steal another election?
They're already trying to lock up these defenders of democracy, these protectors of democracy, the leftists.
Oh, Donald Trump is a threat to democracy.
We have to stop him.
How?
Well, let's not let anybody vote for him.
Isn't that exactly what democracy is?
Is the act of voting for the candidate of your choice?
Well, we have to get him off of the ballot.
We have to lock him up in jail.
We have to make sure he's not an option for anybody.
We have to remove democracy in order to save democracy.
And if people try to push back on that to protect democracy, we're going to be called insurrectionists.
And we're going to be treated just like the people from January 6th are.
Is that what you want to do?
Is that what you're prepared to do?
I legitimately don't know the answer to the question.
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Art, go right ahead.
Okay, well, I was going to ask Dr. Gorka, because he's probably good at math.
If I had 10 cents for every tender, how much money would I have?
Well, let me put it to you this way.
I could give you a quarter and you'd have five cents left over.
How about that?
Yeah, exactly.
I can do that math, too.
Dr. G, I bet he's very, very good at math, but you don't have to be a wizard for that one, but you're exactly right.
Arthur, thank you for the phone call.
I appreciate it.
We're going to get a timeout here because we've got a guest coming up on the other side.
Arthur Goss is going to join us from the Dakota Scout in South Dakota.
There's some malfeasance going on up there, and we're going to talk about it right here
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So I want to dive into something a little bit different here on America First, and thanks for being with us.
Up in South Dakota, Kristi Noem has become one of the most popular conservative politicians, I think, in the country.
She is the governor, she is very highly rated, and she is considered to be on the short list of potential candidates for vice president to serve with President Trump.
She just made her way to my state, to Ohio, about two weeks ago to help campaign for Bernie Moreno as a Senate candidate as we try to take the Senate back from the demon rats.
And so she is, again, very well regarded.
But in her home state, she's got some enemies.
And apparently these enemies are on the tribal councils, the tribal leaders in some of these South Dakota tribes.
Joining us now to tell us what is going on is Austin Goss.
He is a reporter-slash-correspondent with the Dakota Scout, and he's been covering this story for their publication and their substack, and he joins us now on America First.
Austin, good to have you, man.
How are you?
I'm very good.
Thanks so much for having me on, Bob.
Yeah, it's a pleasure.
So here's the thumbnail sketch version from what I have been told, that there are some corrupt tribal leaders that are allowing some of their land to be used for some pretty nefarious things, including drug cartels delivering product and operating out of there.
And that Governor Noem has become aware of it, and is trying to put a stop to it, and that Governor Noem has made that clear, and she has been hit with a lot of pushback from them.
And I'm trying to figure out if there is a political aspect to this, or if this is a simple law and order case that the Governor is concerned about on these tribal lands, which of course are federally protected.
What can you tell us, Austin?
Yeah, you know, I think, Bob, to kind of get into it, you have to understand the history of the governor's relationship with the tribes.
You know, you go back to COVID in 2020.
Obviously, the governor was one of the few in the country, if not the only in the country, to not shut her state down, largely in response to the COVID-19 lockdown.
Because she got so popular, yeah.
Yeah, correct.
And so the tribes, what they ended up doing, you might remember this, it was national news for a while, they implemented their own checkpoints for people trying to come onto the reservations, which of course caused problems for travel, just people who didn't live on the reservations.
And of course, those who did, they implemented checkpoints.
And it turned into this whole thing where the governor Essentially threatened to shut down those checkpoints.
There was talk at one point of bringing the National Guard.
So there's a bit of a history on this issue, but it's important to understand that in the broader context.
But here more recently, in January, the governor delivered a joint address
to the state legislature here and said that there are drug cartels operating on these reservations,
which is a fact that's been substantiated by the FBI, by the DEA.
Last month, NBC National did a story about the cartels presence on reservations in Montana.
Of course, we think that the same would hold for South Dakota.
That's been substantiated by our Department of Criminal Investigations here in South Dakota,
the Department of Public Safety here in South Dakota.
And a few of them did take offense to that.
You know, I think there was some surprise about those remarks,
just because they didn't have a heads-up or something to that effect was the point made.
And the governor has since doubled down on that.
Town Hall in Winter South Dakota, Southern South Dakota, made a comment that some of these cartels were personally, or excuse me, some of these tribal council members were personally benefiting from the cartels' presence, and a lot of them didn't respond very well to that, and that's how she ended up getting banned from Cheyenne River this week, which Cheyenne River is one of the larger ones, I believe.
It's up in Northern South Dakota.
For your viewers who are familiar with the Dakotas, it's almost closer to Bismarck than it is, like, Sioux Falls or Rapid City, Bismarck, North Dakota.
So is there any evidence of this, of the tribal leaders benefiting from these cartels?
You know, it's funny, I think about, there's an old movie, not that old, sometime in the teens, called Savages, in which it was about drugs and drug cartels and so on and so forth, and one of the places they always came, when they came from Mexico, into the United States was into the tribal lands because
they couldn't be touched by federal authorities because of you know
sovereign land essentially. So are drug cartels in real life
using those tribal lands to get here and distribute product and
and push that stuff all out around the country? Is there evidence of that or is
it just allegations right now? No I think there's substantial evidence of
And you know, obviously it's at very much to the disadvantage of these people who live on these reservations.
There's a lot of great, hardworking people who live on reservations who just want to make ends meet.
There's kids that live on these reservations who it's negatively impacting and it's causing crime, it's causing problems.
Again, this has been documented by the FBI.
It's been documented by the The DEA, I mean the feds, as far as you can see in here in South Dakota, it's been substantiated by state officials.
So there's almost no question in my mind, and I don't think in anybody's mind when we're having an honest conversation, that there is a problem insofar as cartels operating off the reservations.
The extent to which, you know, it still remains unknown because it is such a broad landscape.
You think about these reservations, they're the responsibility of the federal authorities to enforce the law there.
And in a lot of times they don't have the adequate law enforcement resources to do that.
And a number of tribes will not sign memorandums of understanding with state law enforcement officials, which effectively would just mean that troopers, state troopers, could go onto their lands and help, you know, enforce laws there.
They won't sign these understanding agreements.
And so, It largely remains this kind of gray area where, you know, the tribe ultimately has sovereignty.
It's almost like its own separate country, but they get a lot of resources for federal law enforcement from Washington.
They're not getting adequate resources for that.
They don't want the state's help.
And so if you're looking at it from a cartel's perspective, if you will, I mean, why wouldn't you want to go to the reservations?
They're right here, dead smack in the middle of America.
It makes a lot of sense, frankly, and it's to the disadvantage of, you know, all Americans, and certainly those in the tribes more than anyone else.
They're the ones who have to deal with this the most, and it's very unfortunate.
So we're talking with Austin Goss.
He is a correspondent with the Dakota Scout in South Dakota.
And so the biggest name here, of course, belongs to Kristi Noem, the governor, and she is very popular.
And as I said, she's considered to be on the short list to be potentially considered as a vice president for President Trump.
On that ticket.
So I'm reading comments about this story, Austin, and some who are opponents and who don't like Trump and don't like Kristi Noem say she's grandstanding here and she's trying to make a bigger name for herself and try to inject herself so that she could pump up her creds, you know, her bona fides, if you will, to be the vice president.
Others are saying no, they're attacking her.
She is actually just trying to do her job as a governor and she's worried about the drugs and the impact on South Dakotans.
And they're attacking her because of her popularity.
So do you see it as one or the other?
You know, I think it's disingenuous to say that the governor is doing this, I mean, for only political reasons.
I mean, I heard this one time with Trump, and I think it stands for this as well, to take her very seriously, but not literally all the time.
But in my conversations with Governor Noem, I think you could tell that she genuinely cares about this.
And I mean, how could you not?
Again, there are people who have to live this life.
I mean, the reservations, I think, our five reservations are five of the counties where they're at are completely Austin, let me pause you.
Let me pause you there.
I've got a hard break coming here, but I want to hear more about your thoughts, especially since you said you've had many conversations with Governor Noem, and she's a big player in this whole thing.
So we'll talk more with you as we continue right here on America First.
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We're talking now with Austin Goss.
He is a correspondent and journalist with the Dakota Scout in South Dakota.
We're talking about Governor Kristi Noem, who continues to be one of the more popular conservatives in America because of the way she handled COVID.
Austin is exactly right.
She and Ron DeSantis were two of the most outspoken opponents of lockdowns and trying to Trying to restore the freedom of businesses to open and so forth.
And so she became a very popular person and some say she could be Donald Trump's choice to be the vice president.
Not sure when he's going to make that choice, but she could be.
Well, she's embroiled now in a lot of controversy over drug cartels dealing and distributing drugs on some of the tribal lands, some of the reservations in South Dakota.
She's been banned from some of those reservations because she is calling for an audit.
And let's pick it up there, Austin.
Right before the break, I was asking you whether or not you believe that she is being attacked, as some are suggesting, because she might be Donald Trump's VP.
And the other side, you know, saying she's grandstanding right now because she does want to be the VP, and she wants to stay in the news as much as she possibly can.
What are your thoughts on it?
Yeah, I mean, you know, like I said, Bob, I just, in my talking to her, in my conversations, we actually just did an interview, about a 30-minute interview last week, me and the governor, largely on this topic.
You know, we were talking beforehand about this issue, and, you know, I can't speak for her feelings, but this is off-camera and such.
I get the impression that she does genuinely care about this.
You know, this tribal conundrum, if you will, has been a problem in South Dakota for so long.
They don't get the resources they need from the feds.
There's not a lot of, you know, there's a lot of questions about jurisdiction, what the state's role is in enforcing the law, what the locality, the reservation's role is in enforcing the law, the counties, the cities, and, of course, the feds.
And so, I can tell You know, as her second term here reaches its second half, if you will, that this is something that she does care about.
And I think she would like to find an answer to.
And I think she feels like when she called for that federal audit last week, or two weeks ago now maybe, but she called for federal officials, including Attorney General Merrick Garland to audit funds going to the reservations.
I think she feels like that we may have hit a turning point in this moment in time.
Like this might be the issue that finally wiggles something loose.
And she got a lot of feedback from different constituents living on the reservation.
Their Facebook page is dedicated to revealing tribal mismanagement of funds.
So I think she feels like this is a turning point at this moment in time to really do something right on the reservation.
I don't think she's politically granted.
I think it would be inappropriate to say That she's not a politician.
She obviously is, and there's something to be gained from this, but I don't think that's why she's doing it.
Okay, and that's good.
That's what I'm looking for, is an idea here, because again, I happen to be one of those who thinks she would be a really, really great candidate to be vice president.
What's your feeling about her, since you've had so many conversations with her?
Do you get an idea of what her ambition is?
I don't know what her status is.
Is she term limited?
How much longer does she have as governor, and where do you think she goes from there?
You know, Bob, it's interesting.
I do think, like you said, it's no secret that she's in the running to become vice president.
And I think what really gives her an interesting shot at it is the fact that she forwent, forgoed, in the past tense, a run for president herself.
You'll recall back in probably 2021, she was considered maybe the most likely candidate to run in place of President Trump, should he not run.
And I think as we both know, if you think about it from President Trump's perspective,
he very much values loyalty.
Governor Noem has been very loyal.
She's endorsed him, as you mentioned.
She was at that rally with him in Ohio last week for Bernie Moreno, or two weeks ago.
I think in that respect, she would bring a lot to the ticket.
I think she is probably angling to it, for it to some extent.
I mean, how could you not?
I guess is what I would say.
If that doesn't work out, I think what most likely happens for Governor Noem
when her term comes to an end in 2026 is if she doesn't secure some kind of cabinet position
or something, of course, if she's not vice president, she probably runs for Senate.
Yeah, that was gonna be my next question.
I don't exactly know what the Senate situation was in South Dakota, but I could see her doing something like that if she is not chosen as Vice President.
Would you, and I know you try to be a non-partisan journalist, so you can answer this through that lens.
Do you think she would be an asset to a Trump ticket, or do you think he needs to look elsewhere?
Just from a purely political observational standpoint.
You know, there's a lot of conversations about, you know, what she does or doesn't bring to the ticket.
And it's interesting because a lot of people automatically defer to, well, she's from South Dakota.
It wouldn't make any sense for him to pick her.
Well, historically speaking, that doesn't matter.
I mean, if you look at it from a small state perspective or from the fact that it's a very safe red state.
I mean, Joe Biden picked Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris is from California.
It's obviously a very safe blue state.
Mike Pence was from Indiana.
It's a very safe red state.
George Bush picked Cheney.
It's a very safe red state.
I think in that regard, you know, it's silly to look at it that way,
and I think what she brings to the ticket is a lot of loyalty.
She's a woman, and she has a huge national profile.
We're talking about it right now.
Yeah, identity politics.
The left plays it all the time.
It would not be a surprise if President Trump took advantage of that aspect, too.
Thank you, Austin Goss.
We appreciate it.
We'll take a time out.
I'm Bob Franson for Dr. G. Let's take calls next right here on America First.
I'm Seb Gorka.
Next call is on the air.
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Next call is on the air.
I'm Seb Gorka.
Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
All right, it has been a packed show today, and I mean with a lot of great content, a lot of great guests, and a lot of very important information that we shared with you.
By the way, Bob France, InforDrG, live in Cleveland, Ohio, whkradio.com.
I'm trying to get better at promoting some of my social media and other things.
But a lot of really important stuff that we have discussed.
If you would like to comment, we're going to take calls the rest of the way.
I almost gave the local number for Cleveland.
At 833-33-GORKA.
833-33-GORKA.
If you would like to talk about any of the things that we have been discussing.
Do you like Kristi Noem?
Do you like Kristi Noem as the VP?
If you were making a VP pick now, and I know this is common talk show fodder for right now, but how can it not be?
We're trying to figure out who's going to balance the ticket to put President Trump over the top.
Defeat, you know, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
Look, the polling is fantastic, but it's still very, very close.
You know, it's got to be enough of a blowout not to be able to be stolen.
And you saw the numbers.
He is winning in six of the seven battleground states, one by six points, one by four points, two of them by three points, and one of them by one point, one of them is tied.
So many of those are within the margin of error.
So there's no givens here.
He's got to make a really strong strategic pick.
I like Kristi Noem.
It's one of the reasons I wanted to talk to the South Dakota reporter who has talked about her and with her a number of times.
I also like some of the other names.
I mean, there's a lot to like about Vivek Ramaswamy, but there are some things to be concerned about.
There are a lot of things to like about Tim Scott, but things to be concerned about.
There are a lot of things to like about Ben Carson, but things to be concerned about.
Does he need to have a minority?
Does he need to have a female play identity politics the way the left does?
I mean, I believe Joe Biden is so committed to diversity hires and DEI, you know, that's why he chose Ketanji Brown-Jackson.
He said he was going to choose a black female for Supreme Court, and he did.
Whether she was most qualified didn't matter.
He was going to choose a black female for vice president.
Found Kamala Harris.
She's the most qualified?
Absolutely not.
Doesn't matter.
Same thing for other positions in the administration.
I don't like it.
I don't like the idea of Trump saying, well, I've got to pick a black person to get more black voters.
I've got to pick a woman to get more woman voters.
I don't like it, but I want the best for the job.
Who is the best for the job, in your opinion?
I like Kristi Noem a lot, I really do.
But I don't know if she's necessarily the best, I just haven't figured it out yet.
Quite frankly, if I'm Donald Trump right now, I'm facing a very, very difficult choice here over the course of the next month or two, and obviously he's going to have to do this heading into the summer.
So I'm curious to see where you would like to see him go.
We're going to go to Dayton, Ohio.
Dick in Dayton has been waiting to talk to us on America First.
Hey Dick, go right ahead, my friend.
Bob, how you doing?
I really liked your show today.
I mean, you know, as you know, up in Cleveland, you made some good points.
The one I thought was bad, Bob, was when that immigrant killed that girl.
That was terrible.
To me, that is animal.
You know what you said, Bob.
Yeah.
And I'm thinking another thing too, Bob, that, you know, I just wondered that we're talking
about, you know, Trump talking these bad words.
And, you know, when I hear him, I just wonder if the people are going to, you know, believe
him or is it going to be false information?
Is it going to be good information?
But I have my faith in the Republican Party, Bob, and I'm hoping that we can get some more
leaders in like this, you know?
Well, I'll tell you what, Dick.
I wish I had that much faith in the Republican Party.
I don't.
And thank you for the call, my friend.
God bless you down there in Dayton.
I have faith in the conservative movement.
I have faith in President Trump.
I have faith in some of President Trump's supporters.
I don't necessarily have faith in the Republican Party because I don't know that they are all rowing the boat in the same direction.
So as a party, I've got my questions.
To your point about Trump's words, There's nothing wrong with what he said about the killer of Lake and Riley.
He caved in her skull.
He is an animal.
Humans don't do that.
Animals do that.
Calling him an animal and others like him animals is absolutely appropriate.
I don't care how triggered that makes the left.
I don't care if he talks about bloodbaths, which is a very, very common term in politics and also in economics.
Uh, you know, an economic crash is a bloodbath, an industry collapsing is a bloodbath, all of those things that he was talking about very specifically and they freak out about it.
Let them freak out about everything that he says.
Let them, let them freak out and let them, you know, undermine their own position because they're going to underestimate him.
My problem is, your question there Dick is, you know, what do the people think?
The media is very, very powerful.
The most powerful company in the world, in my opinion right now, is Google.
More than Microsoft.
More than, uh, you know, Apple more.
And they're up there by the way, because they're all in the digital sphere and they have the ability to impact more people.
But Google came on the scene and made themselves a verb.
Google came on the scene and now nobody looks up anything.
They Google it.
Nobody searches for something.
They Google it.
Anybody wants to know something?
I don't know.
Google it.
Google has become the default de facto, um, answer to everything.
And when you have that kind of power, Um, you control the flow of information, both what comes in and what goes out.
And they are so extraordinarily biased in what they will let the people see about what is the context of the word bloodbath that Donald Trump used.
Google won't allow that to come through.
You have to go eight pages deep of search results before you can find anything that allows it to come through.
What will Google say?
Trump said that the killer of Lake and Riley is an animal.
Google is going to put all of the leftists up there on the search results when people look for this that say Trump called all illegal aliens animals, all undocumented workers.
It's power beyond the concept of the human mind to understand the power that Google has.
And so the mainstream media along with the social media and these platforms They have so much power to determine what the American people think, Dick, and that's what worries me, and that's what scares me.
Let's see, Dan in Minnesota.
Dan, welcome to America First.
Go ahead, sir.
Yes, hi.
I like Tom Cotton as a VP pick.
I mean, you know, he's a former military officer.
You know, he's 46, he's a good age.
You know, God forbid, you know, if something bad happens to Donald Trump, God forbid, You know, we need somebody who can just take the reins of power and run with it.
He's got the military expertise, in my opinion, and that's what I feel we need.
I don't know about Kristi Noem.
Does she have that kind of military expertise?
I don't know.
Yeah, not the military part of it, but you're right about Tom Cotton, and I think that is an important thing.
I don't think it can be a—and thank you for the call, my friend.
I don't think it can be a one-issue decision that Trump has to make.
Well, it's got to be a military person.
Any more than it should be, it's got to be a woman.
I like a lot about Tom Cotton.
I like his presentation.
I like his statesmanship.
I think he'd be a great addition to that ticket.
So good call.
Thank you for that.
We'll take a few more right after this.
Thanks for watching.
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Now let's get back to the show with Bob France.
It has been an absolutely stellar day for Bumper Music.
Alex, if you're choosing the tunes, phenomenal job.
Eric, Guy, you guys are the best.
Thank you so much for making this easy and thanks for making it fun today as well.
Got time for a call or two more.
Darren, St.
Paul, Minnesota, again up in Minnesota.
Welcome to America First.
Go ahead, Darren.
Thank you very much.
Hey, I just wanted to make a suggestion, and I'm surprised that she doesn't get much more attention, though.
Politically, zero, actually, which I really am happy about, but Candace Owens, the woman is a walking Google body.
I mean, you can't debate?
Good luck.
That's the one person in the world I think I would be afraid to debate.
She has got information in her head, and she just happens to be African-American, black, whatever.
Her ability to be able to take control of a subject and make sure that the truth comes out is incredible.
She is special.
I totally agree with you.
You know, she's a little bit polarizing to some, however, because she does not pull punches, which, by the way, I like about her.
But she's polarizing to some, particularly on the Israel question.
She is, in fact, you probably know this, she's parted ways with the Daily Wire.
And Ben Shapiro and the team there because of some differences of opinion.
And she has been a little bit on the equivocating side, if you will, on the Israel issue.
So that might be a tough thing for some conservatives.
But I'll tell you what, my friend, you're right.
I wouldn't want to be in a debate stage against her.
And I feel like I know a lot, and I feel like I can present, but if I was facing her, I would be shaking in my loafers, man, because she is very, very well prepared at all times.
And I do think she's a strong voice.
She's a strong female voice, she's a strong black voice, but most importantly, and she would tell you this, she's a strong conservative voice, a strong constitutionalist, and that's what's most important.
So, it would be off the...
Thank you for the call.
It would be out-of-the-box thinking.
It would be off the... What am I trying to say?
Off the... I guess out-of-the-box is all I can think of here, but I feel like there's another cliched saying I'm missing here.
Off the beaten path is not bad, Eric.
That could work.
Well, it wasn't what I was going to say, but I'll run with that one.
But certainly not somebody that would be commonly thought of like a current politician.
I do like Tom Cotton as a senator.
I think he's a great, I think it's a great idea that the previous caller had.
And I do think, you know, Kristi Noem would be fantastic.
Her popularity, again, is really, really going to be a strong thing.
She's going to resonate with a lot of women, particularly the middle class women.
She's going to resonate, I think, with, you know, really fire up the true conservative base.
You know, the real question is, and I'm not going to be able to get to the Scarborough The real thing, I'm going to say this in closing.
Um, that President Trump has to decide when he makes this choice, is do you choose somebody who will fire up the base, like somebody like Kristi Noem certainly would, or somebody that will pull in people who are not already in the base?
Somebody who will grow the tent?
Somebody who will actually expand the voting base and bring in some of the independents and moderates?
Because if that's what you're looking for, well then maybe you want to go, you want to go off the beaten path, I guess is again the way to say that.
So, that's all the time we've got.
Thanks everybody for letting me be a part of it.
Thanks to our guests, thanks to the Gorka team, and thanks to Seb himself.
We'll talk to you next time.
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