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March 11, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW:President Trump visits with Laken Riley's grieving family

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	So, I'm going to go ahead and get my laptop. And I'm going to go ahead and start the game.
	So, I'm going to go ahead and start the game.
	Like, I was living in a dream for the longest time, because when you come from a country that's, you know, a communist country, your life is so small that your ability dream is like, I just wish I had bread, or I wish that I have milk, or, oh my god, I can't believe that we have meat.
	Like, your wish is so small, or your dreams are so small.
	Not in the sense that people in first world countries look at dreams.
	No, your dream is just like, you can't even, like I had a banana one day and I was like, oh my God, I didn't even know this food existed.
	Like I didn't know a banana was a food.
	Like I, so I, no, I didn't, like, that's a weird thing to say that like, no, I didn't have dreams.
	I just kind of had like, happy moments, but the smallest of circumstances would make
	me happy. Then you come to this country and the whole country is just dreams. You can't like people
	that don't, that aren't from America, that don't grow up in a less advanced country will never
	appreciate America as much as an immigrant will ever, ever, ever. And I stand by that because there's
	nothing like this country. It is all about dreams. There's nothing that you can't fathom doing here.
	Nothing. It's a, it's a, like you can, lots of things are wrong. Every country's got something
	wrong with it, but there's nothing like this one where you can dream. There's nothing like this
	country.
	That's a voice from Hollywood.
	That's Mila Kunis, who was born in the Soviet Union.
	Shocking.
	Is she going to be allowed to actually act in Hollywood again?
	Listen to what that young girl said.
	You have no idea.
	If you were born here you have no idea what America is.
	The idea that you're sitting in the Soviet Union and somehow you get hold of a banana and that's a big deal.
	My mother used to tell this story about how during the war her sister and herself were given an orange.
	An orange for Christmas.
	That was their gift.
	How can somebody living in... What is the biggest problem you have today?
	The Wi-Fi signal is not strong enough in the Starbucks, right?
	That's gonna be your big problem.
	I know she's a Democrat, but... God bless Mila Kunis.
	Hope you had a wonderful weekend.
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	Okay.
	What a couple of days it's been.
	What a weekend it's been.
	Joe Biden and his rant of the union.
	Somebody who came up with this, Rob Schmidt's team on Newsmax, I'm so jealous, they called it the hate of the union.
	Yeah, not the state, the hate of the union, which is right.
	A senile old man ranting, doped up with something, you know, speed or LSD and then ranting at us for an hour.
	And then he was forced by the heckling of Marjorie Taylor Greene to mention the name of Lakin Riley.
	He called her Lincoln twice, because why would you know the name of the most famous murder in the last, what, month in America?
	Why would you know the name of that 22-year-old girl whose head was stoved in by an illegal immigrant that you let into the country, Joe Biden, paroled into the country?
	Why would you know her name?
	Anyway, he got it wrong, but then he talked about the illegal who murdered her.
	Oh, you can't say that!
	So what have we witnessed all over the weekend and with statements from the White House?
	The White House, this morning, apologies.
	Apologies for what?
	Not for letting in an illegal that murdered that beautiful young girl, but apologies for vocabulary.
	Cut nine.
	During your response to her heckling of you, you used the word illegal when talking about the man who allegedly killed Lakin Riley.
	An undocumented person.
	And I shouldn't have used illegal.
	It's undocumented.
	And look, when I spoke about the difference between Trump and me, one of the things I talked about on the border was Here's the way he talks about vermin, the way he talks about these people polluting the blood.
	I talked about what I'm not going to do, what I won't do.
	I'm not going to treat any of these people with disrespect.
	Look, they built the country.
	The reason our economy is growing.
	We have to control the border and more orderly flow, but I don't share his view at all.
	So you regret using that word?
	Yes.
	We have to respect these people?
	What?
	We have to respect murderers?
	Why do we have to respect murderers?
	And we have to have a more orderly flow?
	Did you catch that?
	We don't have to secure the border.
	We're not going to stop the flow.
	We need a more orderly flow.
	And these people built America?
	What, murderers?
	People who murder young girls built America?
	He doesn't give a damn.
	I mean, really, do you need any more evidence?
	They just don't care.
	At the same time that he was apologizing on cable TV for calling a murderer an illegal and saying that they built our country, no they didn't.
	Murdering illegals did not build our country.
	What was President Trump doing?
	Well, he went to Georgia.
	It was an incredible rally.
	And before he held the rally, He actually met with Laken Riley's mother and father.
	He met with her friends, with her doormate in college.
	He spoke, physically met with and spoke with the grieving family and friends of Laken Riley.
	A family who hasn't even received a phone call from the man responsible for her death, the man who opened the borders, Joe Biden.
	And here's President Trump sharing that story.
	Cut 18.
	No remorse, he's got no regret, he's got no empathy, no compassion, and worst of all, he has no intention of stopping the deadly invasion that stole precious Lakin's beautiful American life.
	We are profoundly honored to be joined today by the family and loved ones of Lakin and some of her great friends.
	I met them.
	They're so incredible.
	The whole group is incredible.
	To Lakin's parents, John and Allison, and her sister, Lauren, her roommate, Connelly.
	And to all of those who loved Lakin, the hearts of hundreds of thousands and indeed millions and millions of Americans and people worldwide, they're shattered alongside of your beautiful hearts.
	We share your grief.
	We share your grief.
	Thank you, darling.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	We appreciate it.
	I know how tough it is.
	That's so tough.
	We vowed to keep Lakin's memory alive for as long as we are here on this earth and we take comfort that she is now home with God in heaven and I want to thank you and thank you for thank you for being there.
	Incredible.
	I know how tough it is.
	And Lakin's mother spoke out on a Facebook post.
	Quote, Biden does not even know my child's name.
	It's pathetic.
	That was on Friday.
	Alison Phillips continued to say, if you're going to say her name, even when you're forced to do so, at least say the right name.
	And under a comment on her Facebook post, Which said, Biden is a disgrace of a president.
	Laken Riley's mother added the words, Amen.
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	Who do I send to the U.S. Army?
	Uh, I've got an image I'd like to mention with Razor Fist.
	Send it to me.
	Text it to me.
	Okay.
	Let me see what I have.
	I don't... I didn't have a chance to get much stuff for him.
	Oh, don't worry about it.
	We're gonna talk politics mostly.
	Okay.
	Um... Come on, come on, come on...
	Oh yeah.
	This is the image of Lakin's mother and father.
	You have a title for that?
	For the A-block?
	Yep.
	Um...
	Biden says murderers built America.
	ADF.
	PDF.
	PDF.
	And then Casio cuts, you know.
	Bye.
	Bye.
	Hang on.
	Yes, let's do...
	1...
	3...
	5...
	14...
	15...
	.
	Yeah, that's good.
	So, one... Oh, is he dialing us?
	Or... Are we getting raised a fist up?
	He's trying to call him now.
	Trying to call him right now.
	Okay.
	So that's the... Go ahead and put that up here.
	That's the image that you sent me, Dr. G. Yes.
	And I'm going to send you the one from his comic book.
	What did you say, 1, 3, 5, and 14?
	1, 3, 5, and 14, yeah.
	OK.
	I just sent you one more.
	All right, are you ready, Jeff?
	Yeah.
	1.
	This is why they hate Mark Robinson.
	God bless the lieutenant governor.
	3.
	A traitor calling for the intelligence community to betray their former president.
	Five, the Secretary General of NATO admitting that...
	...
	America first.
	MAGA-nificent.
	Are there spaces in America where you just step into a building and you lose your freedom of speech?
	Really?
	Is the First Amendment kind of limited geographically?
	As far as I'm concerned, the First Amendment stretches from the Atlantic to the Pacific and from the Canadian border to the Mexican.
	I guess that's not true in Massachusetts, in Middlesbrough, Massachusetts, where a 12-year-old young boy called Liam Morrison Fed up with all the transgender garbage his teachers were peddling, well, he wore a t-shirt to school and was punished because the t-shirt said what?
	There are only two genders.
	I've been telling you this story, but now let's listen to Liam Morrison himself.
	On that spring morning, I wore a shirt that got right to the point.
	There are only two genders.
	When my principal pulled me out of class, I was told that people were complaining about the words on my shirt was enough to silence my speech.
	I was told that I would need to change my shirt before I could return to class.
	Rather than respecting my right to free speech, officials chose to censor me.
	That's why, with the help of Alliance Defending Freedom and the Massachusetts Family Institute, we filed a lawsuit calling on the court to hold my school accountable for violating my constitutional freedoms.
	Well, God bless Liam for fighting.
	God bless the Massachusetts Family Institute and the lawyers of ADF that have fought all the way to the Supreme Court for your religious liberty and your freedom of speech.
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	Defending Freedom banner. All right, first guest of the day, first guest of the week.
	We are delighted because it's been quite a few, quite a crazy couple of days, quite a week.
	The man who has superb commentary, cultural, pop culture, political, you name it, philosophical.
	It is the Rageaholic YouTube channel's owner, the one, the only RazörFist.
	RazörFist, greetings my friend!
	Hey, thanks for having me back.
	It's been far too long.
	It has.
	It has been far too long.
	So much to discuss, but let's discuss the most important thing first.
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	OK, so help answer a question for me.
	Raise a fist, if you will.
	Who was the audience for The Hate of the Union?
	What needle was moved in what direction?
	I actually called it the catatonic state of the union.
	I did a live stream reacting to it in real time and it was just It was surreal.
	First off, he's not really speaking English, so we can narrow out that demographic, right?
	So that's definitely not who it's for.
	I was imagining Porky Pig ripped on Jägermeister, rapping the lyrics to Inna Godda DeVita, and it was still coming out more coherent than Biden at times.
	And you could tell at a certain point he hit the wall, whatever rhino steroids they'd injected him with.
	I loved Trump on Truth saying, the drugs you're wearing off, right?
	Brilliant.
	Loved it, but yeah.
	But I know it's hard to channel lunatics, but when the speechwriters sat down to write that, and then somebody said, hey, can you just scream at people for an hour?
	What was the strategic intent you think they were trying to achieve?
	I mean, honestly, I think it was largely a copy and paste of the previous two, right?
	And in fact, somebody actually did a mashup where it was phrase for phrase, line for line.
	He was basically just repeating the exact same thing.
	And of course, They know who Biden is and what he isn't, right?
	They know they could type Mein Kampf on that teleprompter and he'd read it line for line.
	Right.
	So, OK, fine.
	We'll just get out our standard boilerplate kind of talking points.
	And I think, honestly, there is a there is a misbelief on the left that if Biden is yelling, then he comes across as energetic.
	It's amazing.
	They think that we don't catch on that whenever they Inject him with whatever stimulants.
	He doesn't get more coherent.
	In fact, if anything, he gets less.
	He just gets louder.
	His volume seems to increase.
	And that was largely what it was.
	I just, the whole time I was shaking my head going, we have gone from White House to White Hospice.
	Like, this is where we're at at this point.
	Let's, let's try and examine their dilemma logically though, because their, It's hard to imagine working class people voting because when your groceries cost 40% more and you're a plumber and your gas bill for your truck is, you know, twice as much as it was, you know, three years ago, hard to get excited about voting for a repetition of that for the four years.
	Then... Oh yeah, they're having to get creative.
	Real creative.
	It's like, oh look on the bright side in the Biden economy, you can fit $100 worth of groceries into a single bag.
	Like they're literally getting that desperate.
	And then you have those who were loyal but now think, weirdly, that Joe Biden is some philo-Semite who's supporting the genocide of the terrorists.
	I don't think any of these groups were spoken to during that.
	Are they going to have any response in the next eight months to the people who are unmotivated and those who now hate him but were in his camp?
	Yeah, I really, really don't know.
	It is remarkable how incompetent the left actually are at messaging when you really break it down.
	Like, I think we on the left, we on the right, sorry, we simultaneously kind of give the left not enough credit for being as good of strategists as they are, and entirely too much credit, right?
	Like, to hear some people on the right describe them, you'd think they were like Hydra or Spectre, right?
	They were planning their moves 12 moves ahead.
	Then you actually take a glance at their conventions.
	They're eating each other like a Haitian barbecue.
	And you're like, wait a minute, there's like a slight incongruity here.
	I'm not sure exactly what's going on.
	And I think that absolute state of the union was the ultimate distillation of that.
	It was complete, not just verbal incoherence, but actual messaging incoherence from top to bottom.
	You know, he jumped from, and sometimes between sentences.
	In the middle of one sentence, I caught him transitioning from pretending the economy is fine to domestic terrorism And over to green energy.
	Like in one sentence!
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, it was truly stunning.
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	is the first batch going to be?
	How many copies?
	I don't know what the print run's gonna be, but it's gonna be a lot.
	And it's not small, it's like over a hundred pages, so it's a big ol' graphic novel.
	Nice.
	So, uh, yeah, it's a lot of paper.
	It's a lot of paper.
	Right, well I missed the, uh, the, um, the cloud, whatever it is, the, um, the funding thing.
	Right, right.
	Indiegogo.
	So just tell me what I owe you, and I want a signed copy, signed razor face.
	Happy to do it.
	We're definitely going to do a batch of signed copies, so I'll make sure one's tucked away for you, sir.
	So how many people were involved in doing a graphic novel?
	What does it take?
	Just me and one other guy, really.
	And it could have just been me, honestly.
	It was mostly just for expeditiousness' sake that I didn't wind up drawing it myself.
	So yeah, just me and one other dude.
	Are you good with a pen and ink?
	Yeah, I consider myself more of a comic artist than a writer, honestly.
	Wow.
	There'll be some of my artwork in it.
	Some of my artwork was in my books, too.
	Little bit of it, uh, in the Night Vale.
	And do you color as well?
	Did you have, like, an artist who colored as well?
	No, he's definitely much more of a colorist.
	I work in pen and ink, mostly.
	I'm like...
	Or in a pulp style.
	Did you teach yourself autodidact, or what did you learn?
	What did you study?
	Mostly, yeah, mostly.
	I took one or two art classes, but by then I was in college.
	I already knew how to draw.
	I just took it for an elective, right?
	So, yeah, pretty much autodidactic.
	I have two regrets in life.
	I don't know how to draw anything except stick figures, and I want to know how to play the mouth organ.
	Those are my big... That's my bucket list.
	Mouth organ and drawing.
	Right?
	Yes, the old Craig Ferguson bit.
	I mean, look, a piano is not very portable, but a mouth organ you can take anywhere, right?
	You can, absolutely, especially if you have to ride the rails if this Biden economy gets any better.
	Have your bindle over one shoulder.
	Yeah, let's get it going.
	All right.
	I'm going to talk Lake and Riley.
	We'll have the photograph with the parents.
	Copy that.
	And then I'm going to play... I'm actually going to play Cut 13, Ted Cruz.
	Copy that.
	The whole thing?
	I'll probably pot it down after a minute so we can get straight back to Razor.
	Copy that.
	You're going to tee this up, right?
	Yeah, I'll tee it up.
	Oh, actually, come in with 10.
	That's too good.
	Come in with 10.
	Come in with 10, waiting for you to tip 13.
	Yep.
	When was that, Jeff?
	When was he failing to read?
	Was that yesterday, or?
	It was sometime over the weekend.
	Over the weekend.
	Okay.
	And we have MyPillow on this, right?
	Probably.
	I'll try and squeeze that in.
	Copy.
	Okay.
	And what they're going to do is really endanger our national security.
	Are they going to expand personal freedoms?
	Well, that's what we're going to do.
	They're going to do everything to not grow our economy.
	Literally, they have no platform.
	They're against everything, not for anything, except the things that are the wrong things.
	The trucks have definitely worn off.
	That was the putative the alleged President of the United States this weekend after the hate of the Union.
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	Razor...
	I want to drill down on this issue and get a sanity check from you as to whether I'm reading too much into it.
	At the weekend, Joe Biden apologized for calling a murderer an illegal who is an illegal.
	Instead, President Trump in Georgia at the rally did what?
	He met with the family of Lakin Riley, with his mother, with her father, with her roommate from college, invited them to the event.
	Am I reading too much into the significance of this story in general?
	And let me just play one cut that I think illustrates the heart of darkness, the fetid, rotten, black, burnt soul It's a hard, hard thing to say because of all the options, but perhaps the most evil person in the administration is Alejandro Mayorkas, who was asked by Senator Ted Cruz what the significance of the colored bracelets is that you find at the border where coyotes are working.
	Let's just play a little cut of this.
	Cut 13.
	What are these wristbands?
	I don't know what they are.
	You don't know what they are!
	Mr. Secretary, you have just testified to the American people you're incompetent at your job.
	Because I've been to the southern border, and if you go to the southern border, along the southern border, you see thousands of these wristbands.
	Because the illegal immigrants wear them, the drug cartels, every color corresponds to how many thousands of dollars they owe the cartels.
	You've turned these cartels into multi-billion dollar criminal organizations, and these are modern day leg irons.
	I follow this stuff, and I think it has to have an impact.
	Does most of America not know what's going on?
	You would think it watching the State of the Union?
	You know, I don't know.
	I think if some, at least if half of the country, if the leftists or if people who, for example, support certain issues that the Supreme Court may or may not have overturned recently, you have an issue wrapping what's left of your mind around the idea of enforcing our immigration laws.
	I don't know.
	Try thinking of it as aborting them from the country or something like that.
	I think that's fundamentally the issue.
	They can't put it in a frame that they actually understand.
	Because...
	They only believe in borders provided they're a fence around their gated mansions.
	Right.
	Right.
	This is fundamentally we have an elite in this country that are so insulated from these issues, although they are beginning to be imported, right?
	You look over in New York and they're actually starting to ship some of them into New York State, which is a new situation for them, right?
	So are we condemned in November?
	To be shaped by the, it's the pocket books, it's the economy stupid and nothing else really matters?
	Well, I think this is an issue.
	It's interesting, and I think this is a great thing that Trump has done.
	He's actually signal-boosted this.
	You pointed out him meeting with a family, and that's just the latest in a long line of Trump kind of outflanking his adversaries, one of the things that he clearly understands.
	Look, he had a reality show where people auditioned for a job, right?
	He understands that if you actually want a job, you have to act as if you already have it.
	Right?
	So when he was running in 2016, he alighted Air Force One and headed down to the aircraft hangar.
	He had the baseball hat that was kind of like Reagan's hats when he was golfing in the 80s.
	Right?
	He's acting and looking for us.
	Brilliant optics.
	Absolutely genius optics in 2016.
	He's doing the same thing now.
	Yeah, it's a good rule.
	Behave for the job you want, not the job you have.
	All right, that was far too short.
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	1-800-4-RELIEF-RELIEFACTOR.COM And those kind of morphed into what I kind of do with rants, I guess.
	Right.
	You know, I sort of kind of progressed into that a little bit.
	Right.
	But I think it would be such a great thing to have, you know, some site, whether it's Breitbart or The Federist or somebody, immortalize your words.
	Right, right.
	No, there's people, you know, in my sphere, certainly, who do that kind of thing, and it does well by them.
	That's not bad advice, actually.
	Or actually, do what I did.
	Just a substack.
	So it's yours, and you're uncancellable.
	Just have a substack.
	Oooh!
	See?
	You're speaking my language, unlike the president.
	And then, they're turning that into a video platform as well, so if YouTube gets, you know, frisky, then...
	Yeah, for sure.
	Absolutely.
	Alright, well I planted a seed.
	Alright, we'll get you back for a longer chat.
	That was great.
	Have a great week, buddy.
	Had a blast.
	You have a good one.
	Cheers!
	Doctor, can you resend that, just that picture?
	It's not let me forward it to myself because I think it's attached in the text with it.
	Oh.
	You can just send the picture just by itself.
	I think that'll be able to grab it.
	Can you give a title for that?
	Oh no, you're right.
	That's the article you just sent me.
	Yep, January 6th.
	And then the other ones?
	Yep.
	The Hunter Biden 5 million.
	Okay, and did you see the January 6th report?
	Which is the one you mentioned?
	What's the January 6th one?
	Yeah.
	The report just came out.
	It confirms that Trump did, in fact, authorize 10,000 National Guard.
	This is from Lauterbrook.
	And also, testimony that they kept from the American public shows that every witness except Cassidy Hutchison disputed the B story.
	Wow.
	Wow, wow, wow.
	Big stuff.
	So I can you can get a little breaking news and then we'll go to a bunch of buttons.
	All right, breaking news.
	All right, we'll do breaking news.
	Good, good, good.
	All right.
	Is there a shortcut we can come in with?
	Oh, I'm doing PhD.
	Oh, actually come in with, um, Coming with five, I'll do Wellness, and then I'll go to John.
	Give a title for Razorfist.
	For Razor.
	President Trump outflanks Biden.
	Thanks for watching.
	Thanks for watching.
	The criticism has not mainly been against NATO, but the criticism coming from former President Trump has been against NATO allies not spending enough on NATO.
	And there are things that have really changed.
	Now more and more NATO allies are spending at least 2% of the NATO guideline of GDP on defence.
	So President Trump was right.
	Well, that's interesting.
	Who was that?
	That's Jens Stoltenberg, the Secretary General of NATO.
	By the way, he's no MAGA conservative.
	He was the Labour Prime Minister of Norway.
	Prior to that, the Environment Minister.
	And he said, yeah.
	President Trump wasn't attacking NATO.
	He wanted allies to pay their dues.
	And they are!
	Wow!
	God bless that truth teller.
	Truth teller extraordinaire.
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	That's TWC.health Okay, as ever, he does it every week.
	He teases and he breaks news.
	He is, of course, the founder, the editor-in-chief of that superb organization, justthenews.com.
	Follow him at jsolomonreports.
	John, so much to discuss.
	You sent me an article just five minutes ago.
	Now there's some more breaking news.
	So tell our listeners right now what the breaking news is.
	Yeah, this is on January 6th.
	Just a little while ago, Chairman Barry Laudermilk of the House Administration Oversight Subcommittee, the guy that took over the January 6th investigation from Benny Thompson and Liz Cheney, has confirmed several important things.
	Most importantly, The January 6th Democrat committee kept from the American people essential evidence that contradicted or conflicted with the conclusions of the January 6th Democrat report.
	One of those was that Cassidy Hutchinson was telling the truth when she said Donald Trump tried to grab the steering wheel of the beast, the presidential limo, and take it to the Capitol against the Secret Service's will.
	Now, what's interesting is that they credited Katya Z. Hutchinson, even though she had changed her story many times, as I reported a few months ago, but she wasn't even in The Beast.
	She had no first-hand knowledge.
	Four people who were in The Beast, Secret Service employees and a body man, all said it never happened, including the driver for the first time today.
	Barry Loudermilk.
	Well, which is, you know, kind of logical because the beast is huge and the president grabbing the steering wheel would require him to be like, you know, the fantastic four stretching his arm about fifty.
	And there's also a protective shield back there.
	It's kind of hard to do.
	Right.
	So that was a lie.
	She wasn't even there.
	And then there's some really big news about President Trump's actions prior to January 6th, correct?
	Yeah, very important.
	Remember, very early on, Kash Patel, the President, told me, I authorized the National Guard three days in advance.
	I got documents from the Capitol Police confirming that.
	But Liz Cheney and Benny Thompson said, no, no, that didn't happen today.
	Tony Ornato, the Deputy Chief of Staff, said, in fact, the President did authorize the troops on January 3rd.
	And the next day, on January 4th, he was in a meeting with Mark Meadows, the chief of
	staff, with the mayor of Washington, and they talked about the specific number, 10,000 National
	Guard troops.
	But the D.C. government, just like the Capitol Hill leadership, weren't interested in taking
	President Trump's offers.
	So those two stories.
	And here's a third one.
	We remember this one a lot.
	Remember, there were a lot of people saying Donald Trump was talking about hanging Mike
	Pence on January 6th.
	The body man, or the White House staffer, that was with him all day said, that never
	happened.
	The president never said that in any conversation.
	I was with him from dawn to dusk.
	So three very big storylines that the Democrats said, you can trust us.
	We put it in our final report.
	They're all debunked today because of the good work of Barry Loudermilk, the chairman
	of the House Administration Subcommittee on Oversight.
	What a tissue of lies.
	Add to that all the documentation from that illegal committee that was shredded and was deleted.
	it tells you what you should do.
	Hey Sam, one thing just to point this out.
	Sometimes, you know, people ask the question, well, maybe the members, the lawmakers,
	weren't in these interviews and the staff banned both of them because they're partisan.
	Liz Cheney was in the interview with the driver where he said that absolutely didn't happen.
	So if people want to know who was in the interview and knew the truth and allowed that report to go out, Liz Cheney, suspect number one when you look at the report.
	All right, talk to us about the story you just sent us about five minutes ago about Hunter Biden.
	What is the latest details?
	Hunter Biden sought $5 million to try to quash indictment for a Ukrainian oligarch.
	This is a second Ukrainian who had legal troubles.
	We know all about Borisman and Mikhail Zolchevsky, who had all these corruption allegations, and he hired Hunter Biden, and Joe Biden fired the prosecutor.
	And this one, the Obama-Biden Justice Department.
	So, Hunter Biden's dad's Justice Department indicts this Ukrainian oligarch who's aligned with Russia on a lot of things.
	Demetri Firtash.
	And not a few months later, just a few months later, after dad's team indicts the guy, Hunter Biden's on the other side of this saying, hey, you pay me $5 million, I'll make this thing go away.
	Now, the way Hunter Biden didn't get it done, like so many things, he never delivered the word.
	But he ends up getting a piece of the action and some of the money gets routed to an investment, some of the money from the investment then makes it to his bank account.
	Hunter Biden was willing to say, I'll undo my dad's indictment if you just pay me $5 million in concrete, in stone, in the testimony of one of Hunter Biden's business partners.
	And by the way, Two years ago, I first reported this from the oligarch's perspective.
	One of his top right-hand men said he had to see what Hunter Biden did.
	Not any doubt it happened.
	That's how seedy and twisted Hunter Biden's influence peddling is.
	His father could indict someone and he's on the other side of the transaction saying, pay me five million, maybe I'll make it go away.
	Sounds like evidence of corruption to me.
	Read all the details, justthenews.com.
	Bookmark it right now and follow John at jsolomonreports.
	You can watch him every evening on RAV at 6pm.
	Just the news, not noise.
	Thank you, John.
	As ever, bringing the receipts.
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	Title?
	The J6 committee lied about Trump and the National Guard.
	Okay.
	No, PROOF.
	Put the word PROOF in caps at the beginning.
	Gotcha.
	Is Angus King a Democrat?
	How do we get at the problem of the drugs, the fentanyl?
	By the way, I did a little calculation a minute ago.
	About 15 people have died in this country of overdoses, mostly fentanyl, since this hearing started
	an hour, 20 minutes ago.
	That's how serious this problem, one a day, in my state of Maine.
	Is Angus King a Democrat?
	Yes.
	I'll start, because there are a lot of us, obviously, that are working to help support
	those who are on the front lines.
	I'm not a Democrat.
	You You
	You You
	You you
	you Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
	America first.
	Funny, it's hard to predict what happens with a phone call.
	Sometimes I don't ask for any phone calls and just in the monologue, the call board lights up.
	You've been there waiting patiently for the whole hour.
	God bless you.
	Let's go to line one.
	Scott, Athens, Georgia.
	Hello.
	Yes, go ahead.
	Good afternoon.
	My name is Scott Howard.
	I live in Athens, Georgia and wanted to kind of Elaborate a little bit more about the Lake and Riley and what's going on in Georgia.
	Well, this last Friday night, we had another murder in Athens-Clarke County.
	A 17-year-old by the name of Julian Omar Cubillos, who is a member of the Everybody Eats gang, shot and killed a 3-year-old boy in a drive-by shooting.
	We have been working diligently to try to find out the legal status of this young man.
	We've even OR'ed the Sheriff's Department and the Clark County Police Department asking for the intake detainer to determine if he is A legal resident.
	Alright, we have lots of calls, so you have a new case, you say we are working on it, who's we?
	Well, I mean the people, so we formed a group after Riley was murdered called Make Athens Safe Again.
	And we went and we had a rally in downtown Athens where the communist mayor and commissioners
	had counter demonstrators there to shout us down.
	And then when we spoke at the county commissioners, we were called racist, xenophobes, everything.
	And you can watch this on the YouTube channel for Athens Clark County.
	Clark County is a sanctuary city.
	Georgia, Brian Kemp is not doing anything about it.
	We have gangs and murders here.
	So the Riley murder is nothing new to Clark County.
	Right.
	Stay on the line.
	I want more details on that story.
	Please give them to Jeff.
	Let's squeeze in one more called George, Columbus, Ohio, line two.
	But Dale, Judy, Ray, don't go anywhere.
	Go ahead, George.
	Thanks for taking the call, Dr. Gorka.
	Marjorie Taylor Greene is obviously the best at calling people out and just catching the opportunity.
	And Joe Biden is the best.
	He's got the gift Of gaffe.
	And he gave us two gaffes that were a gift.
	You got 60 seconds.
	He let us know that he believes that they're illegal, and so do the Democrats.
	Of course.
	And in the same breath, he told us how many thousands of legals were killed by legals.
	So in other words, they don't even care how many of us die.
	Or how?
	No.
	There's only one thing that matters, George.
	The maintenance of power and winning elections.
	They've let tens of millions of illegals into this country and they want to amnesty them and because they're not white, they think they'll vote Democrat.
	That's how bigoted and racist the Democrats are.
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	Yes, stand up Gorka, quick, get up!
	How good, how good is he, Sebastian?
	Seb, they call him Seb, I call him Sebastian.
	He just makes me smile.
	What can I say?
	I mean, seriously, he doesn't have to do that.
	That was at CPAC a couple of weeks ago.
	Super fun.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Can't wait to see you.
	I'm going to be at Mar-a-Lago in a couple of weeks with Tom Holman for the start of his new organization, Border911.
	So excited.
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	All right, they've been waiting so patiently since the last hour.
	That's how much Dedication, they demonstrate to America First.
	Let's go down the lines.
	Line three, Dale Detroit.
	Hello, Dr. G. Hey!
	I've got a comment on your making movies great again.
	Yeah, I think it's more than a comment, Dale.
	I have a sneaking suspicion it's a complaint.
	Is this correct?
	No, it's not a complaint.
	If I have time, I've got a couple movie requests.
	Yeah, yeah, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it.
	So I don't know if you know this, but according to my count, last Friday was your 50th episode.
	You know, I'm going to blame Eric, because Eric, I'm really crap at math and Eric needs to keep control of all the mathematics.
	But how about this, Dale?
	I trust you.
	Eric is on leave today.
	I don't know why.
	And if we celebrate it, let's Shall we celebrate the 52nd one to say we've done a year of making movies great again?
	So we'll wait two weeks, we will get confirmation from Eric and then we'll have a real celebration.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm on your recommendations, but first things first, after the call, don't put the phone down, because for having mathematical exactitude, we want to reward you with one of our, what's our latest?
	Yes, the 9-0 Supreme Court Celebration Hoodie.
	It's got a smiling President Trump face.
	It says 9-0, and you're going to get one for free, because Dale, you're just mathematically absolutely superb.
	So, you can get yours at SebGorkaStore.com.
	That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A-Store.com.
	But he gets his for free.
	Give us a couple of recommendations and I will write them down if I like them.
	Go ahead.
	So you've done a couple comedies, you know, Ghostbusters, Uncle Buck, but you've never
	done any real classic slapstick comedy like Airplane, Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles,
	Cavyshack, Monty Python.
	All right, all right, hang on, slow down, slow down, slow down.
	I'm going to put in here Monty Python.
	We can pick one of those.
	And of all those you mentioned, it's actually on my list, Young Frankenstein.
	So now that's going to be two times.
	We are definitely going to review Young Frankenstein because I just bloody love that film.
	Anything else now?
	So I got a merch congestion Oh my gosh, yes, quickly!
	Okay, so as you know, Mickey Mouse went into the public domain.
	I would love to see a Mickey and Minnie t-shirt, they're both in the public domain, that says there are only two genders.
	Ooh, I like that.
	I like that.
	I'm going to have to confirm that they're in the public domain, but that's excellent.
	That is superb.
	I'm only going to give you one t-shirt or sweatshirt, but that is very good.
	Thank you, Dale.
	We will investigate that.
	Let's go to Ray in Livermore.
	Young Frankenstein is an excellent choice, my friend.
	He has such a large schwanstrucker, doesn't he?
	Yeah, Mel Brooks, comic genius.
	He pushes the envelope, blazing saddles.
	Also, can't be done today.
	No one would touch it, except the PC crowd.
	They would take it and flip everything and completely ruin the movie.
	Well, Mel Brooks would do it.
	I think he's still kicking around at like 94 or something.
	He'd do it again.
	But what brings you to our show today?
	Your guest was talking about the State of the Union, and I'll try to stay narrowly on course with that.
	But real quick, if you could hand me off to Mr. G when we're done, that'd be great.
	If not, Joe didn't cut and paste that speech.
	Okay, cutting pasting is too easy.
	It's done by amateurs.
	He sampled it.
	He's like a rapper.
	He openly plagiarized his own stuff by sampling.
	At least that's what the kids are all calling it these days.
	You know, Just sampling.
	But he has a history, you know, law school.
	I know, but I love it.
	He's a plagiarist who's plagiarizing himself, Ray!
	Yes, yes.
	He's sampling himself.
	He also plagiarized you in A War for America's Soul.
	I know.
	He's been doing that for a couple of years and that really pisses me off!
	I'm gonna have to start thinking about suing him for stealing the title of my book.
	Sadly, book titles are not copyrightable.
	But yes, you're right.
	He has used the phrase The War for America's Soul.
	Thank you, Ray.
	Stay on the line.
	Jeff will pick up the call.
	Let's go to Judy in Brooklyn!
	Hey, I'm going to call you Gorka the Great, okay?
	A la Alexander the Great.
	Thank you, thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	I appreciate Gorka the Great.
	What else do you want to share with our millions of listeners right now?
	A couple of things.
	Two things.
	Number one, when I heard that senator, I thought she was a congresswoman, but Jeff told me senator, when I heard her rebuttal for the spin of the union propaganda speech, she was... No, I didn't get that.
	Senator Brit, right?
	Senator Brit.
	What?
	Senator Brit.
	Whatever.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	She was so weak, so wimpy, so whiny as a representative.
	I was so annoyed to even listen to her, and it was just so ridiculous.
	She should have pointed out the immigration invasion, the economy, the inflation line.
	Well, she just tried to make it emotional with her quivering voice, and it was like, seriously?
	I mean, it's just, it was so pathetic.
	You know what they should have done?
	They should have had President Trump do the rebuttal.
	Gorka the Great, can I tell you something?
	Oh yeah, right!
	You can, but I've got four minutes left and I have to still play you something.
	So one last thing.
	What is it, Judy?
	Okay, and he's selective phenom, by the way.
	Michigan and Pennsylvania, two swing states.
	Legal to not have to have an ID to vote.
	How in the world are we going to have a fair election?
	Please tell me.
	That is the question.
	We've got to put the feet to the fire of those who are running those elections and make sure that those statehouse reps do not get re-elected unless they run a tight ship.
	That's all they care about is re-election.
	Thank you, Judy.
	So my best buddy is visiting us and he read my latest article about Why they really hate President Trump, and then my description of America divided not between Republicans and Americans, or Republicans and Democrats, but between those who love America and those who hate it.
	And that's a tough thing to kind of internalize.
	And I agree with him.
	It is tough.
	But it's the truth.
	Just listen to this.
	There is a congresswoman who revealed on air at the weekend that she was raped at the age of 16.
	But did it stop the host of the show from using that against her?
	No.
	His name's George Stephanopoulos and it was utterly disgusting.
	Cut 17.
	You've endorsed Donald Trump for president.
	Judges and two separate juries have found him liable for rape and for defaming the victim of that rape.
	How do you square your endorsement of Donald Trump with the testimony we just saw?
	Well, I will tell you, I was raped at the age of 16.
	And any rape victim will tell you, I've lived for 30 years with an incredible amount of shame over being raped.
	I didn't come forward because of that judgment and shame that I felt.
	It's a shame that you will never feel, George, and I'm not gonna sit here on your show and be asked a question meant to shame me about another potential rape victim.
	I'm not gonna do that.
	It's actually not about shaming you, it's a question about... No, you are shaming me.
	He went on for the next eight minutes to do that to Nancy Mace.
	To use her rape as some kind of political cudgel.
	Hey Jeff, what do these women have in common?
	Juanita Broderick, Paula Jones, Lesley Millwee and Kathleen Wiley.
	All raped by the guy that he helped work to get into the White House.
	Because George Stephanopoulos did what before he was given a TV show?
	He worked in the Clinton administration and before that he was on his campaign.
	Yeah, he was press secretary for Bill Clinton, a man who we know has sexually abused and assaulted women, including Kathleen Wiley, Juanita Broderick and Paula Jones.
	Just ask them.
	Funny how that doesn't seem to bother you, does it, George Stephanopoulos?
	But the point is not George Stephanopoulos.
	The point is what the left are prepared to do for political purposes.
	Shame a woman live on television who was raped at the age of 16?
	Yeah, sure.
	Make apologies for using the word illegal about a man who murdered a beautiful 22-year-old American?
	Yeah, sure.
	Because whatever it takes, right?
	Whatever it takes.
	That is the left.
	It's not your father's Democrat party.
	It's not your grandfather's.
	It's not JFK's.
	It's not Scoop Jackson's.
	The only defining aspect of that party is its radical desire to maintain power at all costs.
	Those are the stakes in November.
	That's why we must prevail.
	If you're not engaged, if you're not politically active, and I want you to take this personally, you're actually working for the Democrats.
	So volunteer.
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	Become an election officer like my wife.
	Because otherwise, you can just kiss it away.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	Can you get Casio to post the second half of that?
	Yeah.
	Can you get Casio to post the second half of that?
	Yeah.
	And then the title will be, um, here's how evil the Democrats are.
	Starting when?
	With the Nancy Mace clip?
	Yeah, after I get rid of the caller.
	Oh, who's still on the line.
	Cut four, uh, line four.
	Oh, you just lost him.
	It was Judy.
	That was Judy.
	Oh, that's Judy.
	All right, so what have we not played?
	We've done Mila, we've done Cruz, Stephanopoulos, President Trump.
	Can you play cutout for me?
	Together we will turn the page forever on the miserable nightmare of the Biden presidency.
	What a presidency, what a president.
	We've done Mila, we've done Cruz, Stephanopoulos, President Trump.
	We've done Cruz, Stephanopoulos, President Trump.
	You You
	You I have to hope and knowing the intelligence of the people
	of this country, that we will win.
	That is, they will give him no more information than absolutely necessary, nothing that would reveal sources or methods, because we can't trust that he will do the right thing with that information.
	He's been so reckless.
	Did you hear what he just said?
	That's the former chairman of the Intelligence Committee of the House.
	The last two candidates in a presidential race both enjoy briefings from the CIA to prepare themselves because if Biden loses, you want the guy coming in to be prepared.
	What's Iran doing?
	What's China doing?
	Adam Schiff is telling the American intelligence community to edit, to censor their briefings to President Trump, who by the way, still has the highest clearances and was the president.
	That's treasonous.
	The system requires the candidates to be briefed, not for the intelligence community to choose what they should tell the candidate.
	The deep state is real, and they're proud of it.
	They're talking about it openly on television.
	I've been telling you for about a week now about a very brave young boy called Liam.
	Now I can give you his name.
	He's Liam Morrison from the Middleborough Middle School in Massachusetts, who was punished for going to school in a t-shirt that our next guest will relate to.
	The t-shirt said one very simple thing.
	There are only two genders.
	Liam was punished.
	He's 12 years old.
	Listen to Liam Morrison.
	On that spring morning, I wore a shirt that got right to the point.
	There are only two genders.
	When my principal pulled me out of class, I was told that people were complaining about the words on my shirt was enough to silence my speech.
	I was told that I would need to change my shirt before I could return to class.
	Rather than respecting my right to free speech, officials chose to censor me.
	That's why, with the help of Alliance Defending Freedom and the Massachusetts Family Institute, we filed a lawsuit calling on the court to hold my school accountable for violating my constitutional freedoms.
	Liam is suing the local authorities.
	And how?
	Can he afford expensive lawyers who can argue it all the way to the Supreme Court?
	No.
	That's where the Alliance Defending Freedom comes in.
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	Who can relate to the fight of Liam in Massachusetts?
	Well, I think this person from this cut tells you exactly what he thinks the truth is.
	Cut one!
	Here's something else I'm not supposed to say.
	Ain't but two genders.
	Two genders.
	Ain't but two genders.
	Two genders.
	Ain't but two genders.
	And and
	Ain't nothing but men and women.
	And I can already see WRAL out there, they got their lickety pencils right there.
	Trying to write fiercest that they can.
	Get every word of this here.
	Get every word of this.
	You can go to the doctor and get cut up.
	You can go down to the dress shop and get made up.
	You can go down there and get drugged up.
	But at the end of the day, you were just a drugged up Dressed up, made up, cut up, man or woman, you ain't changed what God put in you, that DNA.
	The person waiting to come on the show is grinning.
	The person playing the cut in my production room is grinning.
	Why?
	Because that never gets old.
	He is the author of the book, We Are the Majority.
	And we are so honored to have him back on the show.
	It's been far too long.
	The 35th Lieutenant Governor of the great state of North Carolina, Mark Robinson.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Good to be here.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	We appreciate you.
	I wonder why everybody thinks you're a pastor and they forget you're actually lieutenant governor.
	I mean, don't give up the day job, but maybe on the side, if you can like plant a church, uh, dude, you've got to, I mean, you're just a natural.
	Well, we, we do like to, uh, we do like to do that.
	And like I said, uh, My mom always told me I had a calling on my life to do that.
	But God has us on a different mission right now.
	And as long as we're on this mission, we intend to stay right where he has us.
	Well, your new mission is to become the governor of the great state of North Carolina.
	And I thought they just realized he's made of Teflon.
	You can't touch this guy.
	But they haven't given up.
	They hate you more than ever.
	Don't they, Lieutenant Governor?
	Absolutely.
	They hate us for simple truths like the fact that there are only two genders.
	But I can tell you this, Dr. Gorka, here's the real reason why they really fear us.
	They fear us because, number one, they know that if we're elected in November in North Carolina, that we change the voting dynamics in our state and possibly in our nation for decades to come.
	Folks are going to look at us, they're going to see our success, they're going to see successful policies being passed, they're going to see their lives change for the better, their state change for the better, and they're going to start voting not by R's and D's necessarily, but by folks that they can believe in and that they know will fight for great policies.
	The second reason why they despise us is because their policies simply do not work.
	They don't work.
	Every place where their policies have sway over cities and states and municipalities And even as we see now over the country, the policies of the left fail.
	They know that.
	That's why they don't want to talk about the issues.
	And that's why they are dedicated to spending over $100 million against me in this race, because they know they don't want me as governor.
	And they know that the road to the White House runs directly through North Carolina.
	And so they're going to do everything that they can to keep us out.
	But we've got a ton of supporters who are going to make sure that that doesn't happen and that we win in November.
	Alright, I'm going to keep you on for one more segment, but in the meantime, how can people find out more about your gubernatorial race and how can they support you?
	What's the website?
	Our website is markrobinsonfornc.com.
	That's markrobinsonfornc.com.
	They can go there and do all the great stuff that they need to do to support us.
	He is the author of the book, We Are the Majority, The Life and Passions of a Patriot.
	Currently, he's the 35th Lieutenant Governor of the great state of North Carolina, but we need him to be The Governor.
	Just push him up, Juan.
	Let's get him up to the top there.
	Mark Robertson, F-O-R-N-C-dot-com.
	That's Mark Robertson, F-O-R-N-C-dot-com.
	He's going to be with us for one more segment.
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	What is the thing that's most pissed them off?
	Is it your truth-telling on trans?
	What is the thing that's most pissed them off?
	Is it your truth telling on trans?
	What is the thing that just makes their heads explode?
	I think it's the whole thing is what really makes their heads explode.
	But I think what they're angriest about, honestly, is the fact that they have zero wins.
	And when I say wins, I don't mean in office, like political wins in office.
	They have zero wins when it comes to policy.
	All of their policies are just garbage.
	And it has been highlighted.
	by this inept administration that we are having to struggle through right now.
	That's the thing that really makes them angry.
	And they do not want to talk about it.
	They want to talk about everything else except the pivotal issues that touch all of us.
	They don't want to touch those issues.
	Education, the economy, public safety, the border.
	They don't want to touch it with a 10-foot pole, and they don't want to because their arguments are nil and their policies are pure trash.
	All right, uh, come in with, um, six.
	No, actually, actually, come in with seven.
	I'm going to flip it here.
	I'm going to do a Patriot Mobile, guys.
	So seven Patriot Mobile.
	Then we're going to go back to the Lieutenant Governor and I'm going to tee up six and I'm going to get his reaction to six.
	Copy that.
	All right.
	Play cut 15 for me.
	Thank you.
	Right now we stand here as men who refute their Jewishness and the Holocaust being hijacked by an occupation which has led to conflict for so many innocent people.
	Whether the victims of October the... Whether the victims of October the 7th in Israel or the ongoing attack on Gaza, all are victims of this dehumanization.
	How do we resist?
	How do you even say that sentence, we refute our Jewishness?
	I mean, what kind of person can say, I refute my American-ness?
	What self-hatred?
	It's incredible.
	It's just pure insanity.
	That is the insanity of the left.
	Yeah.
	That is the insanity of the left.
	Incredible.
	These folks are unwilling to see the viciousness of terrorists.
	Yeah.
	And it's just, I don't understand it.
	I really don't.
	It's a sickness.
	It's a sickness.
	Play me Cut Eleven again, John.
	Such a mean, nasty, hateful person.
	I'd never play him as an actor because I can't see any good in him.
	Nothing.
	Nothing at all.
	Nothing redeemable in him.
	Incredible.
	Incredible.
	Alright, 40 seconds.
	and standby.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Somebody knows how to start low, go slow, rise high, strike far, and continue to make noise and news.
	Joe Biden was at his best when he spoke to the American people.
	It was a masterclass.
	And saying, we did this.
	We accomplished this.
	And we have more work to do.
	So I thought it was a great speech.
	Not because you're a Democrat or Republican, but you're an American who want to see the country succeed.
	Donna Brazile, remember her who gave the questions in advance to Hillary Clinton when she was chair of the DNC?
	I don't know what state of the union she was watching.
	She said it was Biden's masterclass.
	The masterclass in what?
	In ranting and raving?
	Wow.
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	He was in Georgia.
	He met with Lakin Riley's devastated, grieving family.
	President Trump gave a great speech.
	Here's just 20 seconds on the reality in America.
	Cut six, President Trump.
	The suburban, they always say, suburban housewives, they want something that's very important, security.
	They don't want illegal immigrants coming into our country.
	They don't want illegal immigrants knocking on their front door and saying, I'm going to use your kitchen, and I'm going to use your bedroom, and there's not a damn thing.
	And that's when, that's the nice ones.
	Lieutenant Governor Robinson, I've got to ask you, because you were a real guy living in the real world, then you gave an amazing speech about the Second Amendment that propelled you to lieutenant governorship.
	Now you're running for governor.
	Are you seeing what the President is observing?
	Are you seeing classic constituents who are Democrat voters, like the legendary wife White suburban housewives or the black American community.
	Are these people finally waking up to what's happened to America in the last three years?
	What are you seeing?
	Yes, we are seeing that all across the board.
	We are seeing people who are tired of being told that their children have to go to failing public schools.
	We're seeing people who are tired of seeing their communities overrun with fentanyl.
	We're seeing people who are tired of hearing story after story after story of great young people like this young lady being murdered by people who had no business being in this country because they're not being held accountable by a federal government that should be protecting us.
	So yeah, people's heads are being turned every day.
	People are looking back to those days when we were paying $1.45 for a gallon of gas in the grocery store aisles were full and groceries were much cheaper.
	Folks are looking back and saying, they're really looking and saying, am I better off?
	Are my streets better off?
	Are my schools better off?
	Is the nation better off now than it was three years ago?
	And the answer they know is no.
	That is what they're saying.
	And people are rejecting the leftist ideology of Joe Biden and his ilk more and more every day.
	And I think it's going to continue all the way through November.
	It's really going back to, you know, 1979 and 1980.
	What did Ronald Reagan ask?
	He asked the American people, are you better off than you were four years ago?
	It's a very simple question.
	The answer to that question, for most Americans who actually work for a living and aren't part of the bi-coastal elite, is no, we are much worse off.
	That's why we need President Trump back in the White House.
	And that's why we need Mark Robinson in the governorship of North Carolina.
	Mark Robinson for NC.com.
	Support this man today.
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	Right now we stand here as men who refute their Jewishness and the Holocaust being hijacked by an occupation which has led to conflict for so many innocent people.
	Whether the victims of October the 7th in Israel or the ongoing attack on Gaza, all are victims of this dehumanization.
	How do we resist?
	Nobody watches the Academy Awards, but in case you're curious, that's Jonathan Glazer, who won one of the awards last night.
	How do you refute your Jewishness?
	How would you refute your Americanness?
	What kind of perverse self-hatred can cause that in a human being?
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	Just how sick is Hollywood?
	Robert De Niro has played murderers, villains, bank robbers, scumbags.
	And he was asked by Bill Maher about Donald Trump.
	What was his response?
	Robert De Niro cut 11.
	He's such a mean, nasty, hateful person.
	I'd never play him as an actor because I can't see any good in him.
	Nothing.
	Nothing at all.
	Nothing redeemable in him.
	Jeff, you're into gangster movies.
	This guy, he's played some really bad people, right?
	Was that the Irishman, right?
	Yeah, exactly.
	That was, you know, the murder of Jimmy Hoffa.
	He can play that guy, but he won't play the man elected by 64 million Americans?
	Yeah, I think that guy supposedly killed like 20 some people, remember?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that was no big deal.
	I guess he found redeeming qualities in him.
	But there is one presidential candidate that he'd be really good at playing in a movie.
	Who's that?
	Oh yeah, I think he'd be kind of more of a Ron DeSantis guy because they both wear the lifts.
	Those huge lifts.
	I think that would be perfect for him.
	If you don't know what we're talking about, there is a behind-the-scenes photograph of De Niro wearing these...
	It's like 10-inch lifts.
	They're like Frankenstein shoes that you didn't see in the movie, so it would make him look taller.
	It's hilarious.
	I think I'm gonna have to remind the world.
	I'm gonna repost that image on my social media accounts after we've finished it today.
	However, none of these people, these left-wing quote-unquote elitists, have managed to embrace reality.
	Unlike Brett Weinstein, you may be familiar with this former professor or you may not.
	I think he's Jewish and he resigned from Evergreen State College as a Democrat after they had an event celebrating blackness at the college where faculty and staff were told you're not allowed to come to campus if you're white.
	I thought that was segregation.
	Brett Weinstein said, this is wrong.
	I don't believe in segregation and I'm going to go to work.
	He was screamed at.
	He was threatened.
	He was vilified by the students that he taught as a white Jewish Democrat.
	Well, he recently testified on Capitol Hill, and he sounded like Kash Patel or one of our regular guests.
	And I just want to salute Brett Weinstein.
	We may not agree on everything, but he understands the threat to America.
	After what he lived through at Evergreen State University, he's decided to tell the truth.
	Cut 16!
	Research universities spend huge sums of public money to reach preordained conclusions.
	Professors teach only lessons that are consistent with wisdom students have picked up on TikTok, even when those lessons contradict the foundational principles of their disciplines.
	The CDC has become an excellent guide to protecting your health, but only for people who realize you should do the opposite of whatever it advises.
	The courts, the last holdout in this ongoing inversion of reality, are now regularly used as a coercive weapon of elite against those who threaten them.
	We have literally witnessed the Department of Homeland Security attempt to set up a truth ministry and declare accurate critique of government as a kind of terrorism.
	To my fellow patriots in the West, the pattern is unmistakable.
	I cannot tell you with any certainty who they are or what they hope to accomplish.
	There's nothing factually wrong with what he said.
	You can't dispute any of it.
	The Biden administration tried to put in place a censorship, a chief for government disinformation.
	When it comes to what the CDC says, I mean, this is a left-wing former professor who says what?
	If you want to know what to do with regards to your health, go to the government website, CDC, and do the opposite of what they're telling you.
	Whether it's about mask usage, whether it's lying about ivermectin, whether it's the absolutely scientific garbage lies they're telling you about vaccinations and boosters and how you'll be immune and you won't be able to spread COVID, The opposite of what they're telling you is the truth.
	Question is, what is your role?
	Your role, very simply, for the next eight months is to cleave to the truth and never ever censor yourself.
	Now is not the time to fear the repercussions of telling the truth.
	As the good book tells you, the truth will set you free.
	What will happen to you if you don't tell it?
	What will happen to your soul in eternity if you censor yourself, if you support the lies, the propaganda of the regime?
	I know sometimes it's tough, but you've got to think in the eternal perspective.
	What happens if I help the liars and the propagandists?
	You know what happens when you tell the truth in the eternal perspective.
	You will be rewarded.
	It's up to us, dear friends.
	Don't censor yourself.
	You've got eight months to save the Republic.
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	I guess the self-hatred never ever ends, does it?
	Remember Bernie Sanders' honeymoon?
	Honeymoon?
	I know if you don't believe me, I'm not surprised, but you can actually look it up for yourself.
	There's actually footage of it, him singing drunkenly in the Soviet Union.
	He honeymooned in the Soviet Union as an American Jew when it was one of the most anti-Semitic nations in the world.
	Don't forget Stalin's Jewish doctor's purge, right?
	That's the nature of the Soviet Union.
	I guess it's hard to get out of your system.
	What is Bernie Sanders doing right now lecturing the Middle East, our best, our closest partner in the Middle East, and what does he want Biden to do with a nation surrounded by those who want to kill them?
	Well, here's a listen.
	Bernie Sanders from Vermont, cut four.
	You've said Israel's in violation of the Foreign Assistance Act, as have a handful of other Democratic senators.
	They may also be in violation of the Leahy Act.
	The president himself has the national security powers to suspend.
	Do you really think, though, in a presidential election year that the president of the United States would halt or pause or condition aid to one of the closest allies in the Middle East?
	Well, I think it is the right thing to do.
	You can't beg Netanyahu.
	You gotta tell him if you want any money, you gotta change your policy.
	Allow the trucks to come in to feed the children.
	He just doesn't care, does he?
	What's Bibi Netanyahu's response?
	Well, he has a very simple metric for how the war ends.
	Cut 12.
	You have to ask him what he said, because he said that he agrees that we have to destroy Hamas as a fighting organization.
	That's what we intend to do.
	Look, it's either Israel or Hamas.
	There's no middle way.
	I mean, we have to have that victory.
	We can't have three-quarters of a victory.
	We can't have two-thirds of a victory, because Hamas will reconstitute itself with these four battalions in Rafah, reconquer the Gaza Strip, and do the October 7th massacre over and over and over again.
	And for us in Israel, not merely for me, but for the people of Israel, that's a red line.
	We can't let Hamas survive.
	The red line, we can't let Hamas survive.
	That's exactly correct.
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	Welcome, dear friends, to a very special edition of the Manhood Hour with someone who has been a supporter of this show for many years and is one of the listeners' and viewers' favourites.
	A man who, as I have said many times before, if I ever grow up, I would wish to be like this individual.
	A Renaissance man.
	They are a rare breed today.
	A corporate titan, a champion for justice reform, and also basically an author of a library of books, every one of which is worth your time.
	The latest, Wait It Home, is a thousand pages of the first volume of the political and strategic history of the world, from antiquity to the Caesars, 14 Anno Domini.
	Of course, we are talking to the great Lord Conrad Black.
	Lord Black, thank you for making my last few months and my weekend, especially preparing for today, so very, very enjoyable.
	Sebastian, thank you for the honor of having me on.
	I hardly recognize myself from your introduction, but thanks for it anyway.
	Well, well, well, no need for modesty here.
	We celebrate manliness and the classic virtues of manhood every week on our Manhood Hour, and it's a perfect way to delve into the book, because as you say in your introduction, The history of the world told properly is at least a very interesting story.
	And, as always, is an interesting sequence of talented and highly motivated individuals which you illustrate throughout the book.
	As such, would you walk us through your theory of history?
	The great man versus the circumstances creating the great men.
	Do you fall on either side, or what is your take of how history is illustrated?
	Circumstance versus great men.
	Well, I'm more on the side of the people because ultimately people make history.
	I mean, of course, trends change and there are natural phenomenon like earthquakes and accidents like fires that can influence history, but essentially people make history.
	And it isn't just the great men, it's everybody.
	But the only way, in my judgment, to make history interesting is to focus on the personalities who chiefly made it.
	Some of them are extremely admirable, some of them are wicked, but that's not the point.
	They made the history and the historian's job is to tell the history, but he has some obligation to be As interesting as he can to the reader, as accessible as he can, while maintaining rigorous accuracy.
	So I answer to a counsel of perfection all the way around the compass of reading, but I'm essentially reporting on what people have done and the consequences of it.
	I want to talk about some of those examples.
	I don't want to get lost in this hour on the minutiae of certain periods, but I'll have some questions with regards to the likes of Alexander or Hannibal.
	On literally the second page of the book, you make this very interesting observation, which When you think about it, it's kind of obvious, but then you have to unpack it, and it's the following.
	Readers will also note the greater historic importance of men of action over sages, like Plato and Cicero, whose meddling in government was largely ineffectual.
	Do you have a theory as to why that is?
	Because of course we say Western civilization is built on the ideas of the Plato's, the Aristotle's and so forth.
	But those individuals never quite translated into an impact on the political environment around them, unless it was through who they were teaching, such as Alexander, with, you know, studying from Aristotle.
	Do you find that demarcation between the great minds of Western civilization and those who get things done to be just a foible of history?
	No, not exactly.
	You see, the skills are different, and it is very rare, not unheard of, but rare, that you get a theoretical and intellectual mind who is thoroughly adept at executive action.
	Now, it happens sometimes, but not very often.
	I only singled out Plato and Cicero, because unlike Aristotle, who saw what he was and conformed to his talent of being both a teacher and a creator of interesting perspectives, They actually tried to enter into active politics.
	I mean, you know, Plato went and sat in Sicily for a year, purportedly instructing the leader of the country how to govern Sicily.
	And in the end, he was basically thrown out.
	He had no idea how to influence these people and what kinds of actions would be successful in the unique collective personality of Sicily, which was a very quarrelsome
	place even then and has not ceased to be so. And in the case of Cicero, he became prominent as
	a lawyer, and then he got the idea that he was a sort of guru to the statesmen, and he
	believed that he had a benign form of a Mephistophelian influence on Pompey, but Pompey didn't pay
	any attention to him.
	And he was completely How should I put this?
	He was not exactly swindled, that would be unfair, but he completely misjudged his relationships with Octavian Caesar.
	When they met, Octavian was only 18.
	And Cicero was a very eminent figure, and he thought he had kind of taken Octavian under his wing and was a mentor, but he wasn't.
	And Julius Caesar offered Cicero a position in the first triumvirate, to make it a quadrimvirate, with Pompey and Crassus and Caesar.
	And Cicero didn't do it.
	So I was only making the point that They had their talents in the areas where they're most famous, but for the most part, when they tried directly to influence history themselves as executives, it didn't work.
	Cicero's great success was dealing with the conspiracy of Catiline, which he did do, but it wasn't that complicated to do it.
	And why another book on world history?
	I want everybody to be clear, this is eminently readable.
	I mean, you do leave out, and you say at the beginning, I'm going to leave out the stuff that really isn't important or is, you know, is relatively boring, and I'm going to tell a rollicking good story of the history, strategically and politically, of the West.
	Why another one?
	What was your goal as you sat down to write volume one?
	I felt that the idea of a grasp, not a grasp of all of the details, of course that would be a life's work, but just a familiarity with the development of political history, how People initially were in clans and tribes and so forth and then got into larger and larger units and how they related with each other, how the jurisdictions got on with each other and what the strategies were.
	That all of that was in the minds of those who might be interested in it, something which to get any grasp of at all would require reading dozens of huge books, like some of these behind me here on my left.
	Let's see, Cambridge Ancients and Medieval and Modern History.
	And you don't have, that's 30 volumes of a thousand words, a thousand pages each.
	So, you know, it would take years and years to do it.
	And my theory was You could put it in a manageable, not a few words, obviously, but a manageable number of pages and divide it clearly so that people could use the index and look at parts of it without having to wander around for what they were trying to find.
	And you could get it into a manageable length, still make it readable and not superficial.
	I was trying to walk the tightrope between A readable and reasonably complete book, and a book that would simply be a mere chronology with no meaning, and so you could never really
	You know, extract interest from it.
	It'd just be like googling something to get the date of it, you know?
	So I've tried to steer a middle course there, and it's not for me to sign my own expense account and say how much I succeeded, but when I re-read it on edit, I thought it read fairly well, but I'm partial.
	Well, you did succeed, especially because, which is unusual with tomes of this subject, you can dip in at any point.
	You don't have to do chronologically.
	You can actually just drill down on one really interesting story and then jump a couple of chapters, and it's just as enjoyable.
	And you can put it down and take it up.
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	Lord Black, the first substantive chapter of the book has to do with the people of Israel.
	What is so special and different about that community?
	Is it just the monotheism?
	I found it so enjoyable that I'm reading the chapter.
	That we realize there's so much influence, even from, you know, the sources of the word Hebrew, the sources of the word Semite, go back to the Old Testament, and actually have such an influence through the millennia.
	But why start there, and why are they so influential?
	Well, they were a large group at that time, and they were unique because they were monotheists.
	And, of course, they have been very prominent, as you say, in the development of our entire, as it's generally regarded, Judeo-Christian civilization.
	And most of the initial Christians were, in fact, Jews.
	And the reason the Jews went from being a relatively large people to a relatively small was because most of them became Christians.
	And obviously they were subjected to some terrible oppression at times, but the principal reason is the one I just said.
	But they have had a huge impact on The notion that has always been in the minds of people, as I discovered in my research in ancient Mesopotamia, people have always been preoccupied with the possibilities of a supernatural intelligence, of a supernatural intervention in the world, and of some form of a deity that could be propitiated.
	And the Jews were unique in that, in that I don't mean to be repetitive, but they didn't have a plethora of gods for functions.
	They had this concept of a universal God, and with it came the special place of human life.
	And that is really the wellspring of our Widespread and admirable Western view, civilizing view, that life is important or sacred and that all lives, to be crassly contemporary, all lives matter.
	When you're writing a history that goes back so far in time, we think of the proto-historians, we think of the likes of Plutarch, we think of Livy and Thucydides.
	But they kind of set the stage for what being a historian is.
	You don't have the sources at your disposal that you would if you were writing a history of the Second World War or, you know, the Florentine city-state.
	So, outside of, you know, Plutarch, Levi, Thucydides, and the influence, of course, of the Bible itself in the Old Testament, How much of a challenge is it to write an all-encompassing history of civilization?
	What did you draw upon when you're in the pre-modern age?
	Well, as you say, I certainly don't have the capacity to learn those languages and inspect the texts such as they are.
	I mean, can you imagine the task that would await someone trying to learn hieroglyphics and ancient Sanskrit and so on?
	I mean, some people do it, but I wasn't one of them.
	You know Napoleon's famous phrase, history is lies agreed upon.
	Well, I tried to get as far back as I could while it was still reliable history.
	Facts agreed upon.
	And where there was a doubt and it was important I mentioned that there was a question about this.
	I'm not advocating a school of anything.
	I'm just trying to gather the relevant facts and put them in the right sequence.
	Amongst the proto-historians, was there one that impressed you more than the others?
	Because many say Thucydides is the man that invented the concept of being a historian.
	He was impressive.
	Livy impressed me.
	Polybius impressed me.
	Herodotus was too much given to myth-making, but still valuable.
	Plutarch...
	really took from those others.
	He came after them, you know.
	But he was a good interpreter.
	In most cases, he sifted out well, better than I could, certainly, between the different accounts of things, which was more reliable.
	Now, he had his own hang-ups, you know.
	He had some funny ideas about Julius Caesar being insane and nonsense like that, but fundamentally a good historian.
	May I mention one thing that almost all your viewers would be familiar with?
	The famous speech at the funeral of Julius Caesar.
	Yes.
	I had assumed that Shakespeare basically made this up.
	I mean, it was one of the greatest speeches in history, I thought, if it were given this way.
	Yeah, the guy had come to bury him, not to praise him.
	That's it.
	And of course, Brutus is an honorable man.
	But five minutes later, he had the crowd screaming, assassins and murderers, and chased them from the forum.
	The fact is, Shakespeare got it from Plutarch, and Plutarch got it from Cicero, who was present.
	And Mark Antony actually said that, almost verbatim.
	Just reinforcing how incredibly sui generis and utterly unique Shakespeare was.
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	Lord Black, I want everybody to buy the book and to read it, to use it as a teaching text, but I want you to answer one, one burning question when it comes to the history of Western civilization.
	How best is it that we understand the Dual influence, the syncretic influence of ancient Greece and Rome.
	The oversimplification is representative government and the concept of the rights of the individual.
	And then the Romans come along and create this legal system on the foundations of what the Greeks gave us.
	That is a gross oversimplification.
	So how does Lord Black look at the building blocks that are Greece, ancient Greece, and the building blocks that are ancient Rome?
	The conventional wisdom you summarized is partly true.
	And of course, it's been contorted a bit, especially by 19th century British historians who fancied that Britain was like ancient Greece.
	And this was transported, for example, even into the 20th century when The British Prime Minister Harold Macmillan claimed that Britain was to the U.S.
	as Greece was to Rome, which was complete rubbish, of course.
	But Greece did make the very important step that you mentioned in a few of its cities.
	Many of them were not democratic at all, but Athens was, and several of the others were.
	Developed this concept of rights that actually the people have rights and whoever is governing has to pay some attention to that.
	And it broadened out from there.
	Where Greece was really disappointing was they could never get past the scale of a nation state.
	And even when Athens, after its heroic performance in the Persian Wars, where it really sacrificed itself to save Greece, and the Greeks recognized that, Athens set up the Athenian confederation and mismanaged it and treated all of the confederate states as if they were essentially satellites and colonies of Athens, and the whole thing collapsed.
	And when Philip and Alexander of Macedonia arrived, they still found this little area squabbling, all these little states squabbling with each other.
	Now, Rome developed on its own, without imitating Greece, a form of democracy.
	It always had, from early days, a form of popular consultation.
	But it didn't have the philosophers' rights that the Greeks had.
	But it had a By the standards of those ancient times, we're talking about 500 BC, 400 BC, Rome had a relatively, it was a very small place, but had a relatively
	Let's say a system that was relatively humane, relatively.
	And it did, as you say, develop the concept of the law, but it also developed the concept about it, expanded, gradually absorbed others in Italy and then around the Mediterranean, And in every case, it lowered taxes and increased public security.
	And it took the most talented of the people in those places and raised them up, and in many cases put them into the Roman Senate.
	So it was a form of expansion of government without simply being ancient conquest, plundering, and oppression.
	Well, which is how things were with the Assyrians.
	And the idea that you're actually integrating those new populaces, they're not just vassals or they're not just, you know, becoming slave and nations or members of an empire to be exploited.
	The book is the political and strategic... Even if they became slaves, it wasn't the kind of slavery that was Based on race and deemed to be a disparagement, and they almost always had a way to get their way out of sleep.
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	I don't want to fall into the trap of unjustified nostalgia but I read your
	book Lord black and when you go back in time and look at the the
	incredible the real leaders not mythical individuals but the likes of you know
	the the Carthaginian General Hannibal or you think of Alexander the Great who...
	Basically had an empire spanning from India to Greece, settled 20 cities, one of the greatest named after him.
	And you scratch your head and you say, where are the likes of these men today?
	Am I wrong to ask that question?
	Should we think of the Pattons and the Churchills as equivalent?
	Or has something in manhood changed as soon as we got into the Westphalian nation-state system?
	No, I think we still have great leaders.
	I think Churchill and Roosevelt are people that their skills were different, and obviously the institutions that they led were not ones that lent themselves to the same level of autocratic government as Alexander enjoyed as a king.
	I think they were people of equivalent intelligence and courage and flamboyance, you know, panache.
	An astonishing achievement for Roosevelt to overcome his illness confined to a wheelchair at a time when it would have been electorally fatal if the country had known that, and had four terms as president, and led the country out of depression and through the World War.
	And General de Gaulle was a great figure, a classic.
	Yes.
	And there have been some.
	And on the evil side, you know, the bad people, to give them their due, I mean, they were terrible.
	But they were formidable.
	I think of Mao Zedong and Stalin and even Hitler.
	Yeah, yeah, no, that's absolutely right.
	If you think of, uh, yeah, I think Attila the Hun and Mao, they're, they're, they're matches for each other in, in their destruction.
	Mao was better educated.
	Let me ask you a, uh, I don't think it's a predictive question, but, but given the scope of what you've done and volume two will be with us imminently, you map very adroitly the The shape of human society over the millennia, from tribe and clan, to then proto-empires, then to the city-states, and then after the 17th century, the modern nation-state.
	Do you feel that that final construct is where we will stay?
	Or is the World Economic Forum, the EU, the globalizers, are they trying to posit something beyond the Westphalian system?
	Or have we found the best way to build human society?
	I think that the Davos people have prematurely tried to homogenize everybody.
	And it's obviously not working.
	And there was a backlash against it.
	And I speak as someone who attended at Davos for 20 years, because I succeeded the late Bob Maxwell as the head of the media group.
	And it was useful for me when I was in that business.
	You meet analogues from other countries and could talk shop, you know.
	But that was when the Cold War was still going on and they hadn't taken the plunge into this theory that they had the key to all the rest of the future.
	You know, the sort of Fukuyama view.
	History's ended.
	This is it.
	We're running things down.
	But I think what you will get is a a gradually more civilized and accepting relationship between the national states, most of which are culturally based or tribally based, and so there's a rationale to their borders.
	But I think the I think the ancient proclivity of these groups to make war on each other all the time is steadily declining because of advanced recognition of how counterproductive it is, and also because of the deterrent force of our now terribly destructive armaments.
	Sebastian, you cannot look at the world today And look at it in the early chapters of that book you've held on, and not believe that there has been real progress, not in human nature, but in human perceptions and grasp of human experience.
	There has been great progress.
	And there's no reason to doubt that it'll continue.
	But it never continues in a straight line.
	No, and you've written histories on America and the strategic evolution of America.
	Are the comparisons to an empire in decline, the Gibbons thesis, with America today, are they overblown?
	Yes, they're not true.
	In my opinion, the Rome that fell was a Rome that was decadent.
	It was a Rome that had yielded all of the frontiers and the protection of the frontiers to barbarians who were being pushed westward by fiercer barbarians.
	And they weren't reliable.
	And when the pressure really came, it all collapsed.
	I disagree with Gibbon, by the way, who blames some of the fact of the fall of the Western Roman Empire on Christianity.
	If the Romans had jumped onto the Christian bandwagon earlier, they would have defended their empire more successfully.
	But the United States isn't a decadent country.
	It's at a plateau.
	I do not believe it's in decline.
	The later Roman Empire, nobody had any loyalty to the central government.
	that government had moved to Constantinople, and the emperors were essentially soldiers
	who then at the death of each emperor, usually violent deaths, would then have a minor civil war
	between themselves to see who the next emperor was.
	I mean, the United States isn't functioning like that.
	It's not functioning as well as it could and should, but it's not like that.
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	You mentioned a word, Lord Black, about panache, a word you just do not hear today.
	President Trump definitely has his own version of panache.
	He does.
	Where is the style in politics?
	I mean, the Margaret Thatchers, the gall, wow.
	What has happened to the idea of having a little bit of style in your statecraft?
	Well, I think we had very strong leaders at the end of the Cold War, including a dear friend of mine who all the flagstaffs in this country are half-staffed for this week, Brian Mulroney.
	He and Helmut Kohl in Germany, and Mitterrand, up to a point, in France.
	Certainly, Margaret Thatcher, the Pope, and President Reagan, they all had panache.
	Yeah.
	And they won.
	They won a bloodless victory, and a great victory.
	And without triumphalism.
	They weren't ungracious to the Russians.
	And then I think, as a civilization, we didn't have threat and we all became a bit complacent and the quality of our leadership declined.
	But not permanently.
	Soft times.
	And I think Trump is an example of that.
	Even his enemies admit he's a very strong, formidable man.
	Let me just end with the last two sentences in the book so we could tee up volume two.
	The pinnacle of the power of the Caesars quietly passed.
	Centuries of Rome's preeminence awaited.
	And the tortured but miraculous dawn of the Christian era was at hand.
	Rome would unite Western man's secular and ecclesiastical destinies with unforeseeable durability.
	Rome's gods were fading, and a Messiah was already perceptible to a few in Israel.
	For a moment, man was alone, and the ancient world was still, but about to enter upon its most storied years and earth-shattering events.
	If that doesn't make you want to read more, then I don't know what will.
	Start with Volume 1.
	It is The Political and Strategic History of the World from Antiquity to the Caesars, 14 AD.
	I'm ready for Volume 2, by the way.
	In the meantime, listen to our friend, co-host of the Scholars and Sense podcast with Victor Davis Hanson.
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