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	♪♪ Breaking news.
	Nobody has read the 90-page judgment.
	It has just been released.
	The 45th President of the United States has been held liable in the civil fraud trial in New York.
	It is a judgment of the first instance.
	Of course, it will be appealed by the President's team, but they will never, ever give up until he is back in the White House.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, former strategist to the 45th President of the United States, and this is America First.
	What is that decision in New York?
	What do the cases in Georgia, the January 6th case, what do all of the uses of the judicial system against President Trump, starting with the raid on Mar-a-Lago, his private residence?
	My armed FBI agents, what has that got to do with a gulag prison in the Russian Federation, may seem like a strange question.
	But it's not.
	It's not.
	There is an individual called Alexei Navalny, who on a video conference call less than 48 hours ago, Was a healthy 47 year old.
	Albeit in prison in the Arctic Circle in a concentration camp.
	But he looked healthy.
	The next day he was found dead.
	Reported today by Russian authorities.
	Who is he?
	And why does it matter?
	It matters because the way he was treated It's exactly the same way that the judicial system is being used by the regime of Joe Biden here in America.
	In response to the news, and to put it all into context for the next nine months, our good friend Paul Kengor, the editor-in-chief of the U.S.
	Spectator and professor and center director at Grove City College, has written a piece.
	It's up on my Twitter feed, my Truth Social, my Facebook, and I'd just like to share a few lines from our good friend Paul's analysis.
	47-year-old Alexei Navalny has perished in a brutal Arctic concentration camp called Polar Wolf.
	Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trotsky in 1920 first used the phrase concentration camp to describe their Soviet system Well before Adolf Hitler used the term in Germany ten years later.
	Interesting that the Russians, the Russians used the term concentration camp a decade before Hitler.
	The death in the Polar Wolf penal colony conjures up so many other victims, their names, their images from the Russian past and present.
	Speaking of Lenin and Trotsky and the Bolsheviks, One thinks of their bayonetting of another Alexei, the young haemophiliac heir to the Romanov throne.
	The Bolsheviks murdered that young boy and his sisters and his entire family in their house of special designation.
	in Yekaterinburg in July 1918.
	The whole royal family just bayoneted.
	After that Lenin and then his successor Joseph Stalin implemented the vast gulag system throughout Siberia.
	Alexander Solzhenitsyn, the greatest of Soviet dissidents, who somehow managed to survive Siberia called it the Gulag Archipelago in his classic book.
	Countless millions of innocents perished in the Gulag Archipelago.
	The late Hoover Institution historian Arnold Baikman, who contributed to the American Spectator, once estimated that upward of 20 million Soviet citizens perished in the Gulag under Stalin alone in the 1930s.
	20 million!
	1930s. 20 million. The Holocaust was 6 million Jews.
	More recently, under Vladimir Putin, a man who learned his tactics in the KGB in the
	1980s, one can think of the 2006 death of Alexander Litvinenko, one of the earliest
	Putin purges of a dissident, and one of the earliest tell-tale signs that the new Russian
	president was a thug.
	In the case of Litvinenko, he was killed with a polonium-210 poisoning.
	Radioactive isotope put into his tea.
	The Litvinenko death evoked memories of the infamous umbrella assassin, the Bulgarian secret services, and how they would kill their dissidents.
	One of them, Georgi Markov, living in London, killed by a ricin pellet injected into his leg from a KGB-designed murder umbrella.
	Communist thuggery has long been about precisely this.
	Death, death, death.
	So, it's strange, is it not, that we have conservatives who think Russia's a nice place, and so is Putin.
	After his interview with the president, the former KGB colonel, Tucker Carlson was invited to the World Government Summit, a strange place to go.
	I've never been invited to the World Government Summit, where he had this to say about Moscow and how nice it is.
	Cut 16.
	The average person cares as much about abstractions as about the concrete reality of his life.
	And if you can't use your subway, for example, as many people are afraid to in New York City because it's too dangerous, you have to sort of wonder like isn't that the ultimate
	measure of leadership and that's true by the way it's radicalizing for an
	American to go to Moscow I didn't know that I've learned it this week
	to Singapore to Tokyo to Dubai and Abu Dhabi because these cities no matter how we're told they're run
	and on what principles they're run are wonderful places to live that don't
	have rampant inflation we're not going to get raped yeah you won't get raped on the subway in Moscow
	neither would that happen in North Korea or in Munich in 1939
	under the regime of a certain little Austrian corporal called Adolf Hitler
	Is that what conservatives believe in?
	That we don't have crime?
	Or do we believe in not having crime but also not having a state that is the criminal?
	Because, let's be clear, Alexander Navalny was killed because he was a campaigner against corruption and a political activist who posed a threat to President Putin because he spoke the truth about his regime.
	Surely, if you don't approve of what is being done to President Trump today in New York, And next week in Washington, and then the week after in Fulton County, Atlanta.
	How can you agree that the same tactics, albeit more aggressive, used against Russian patriots in Russia, that's fine?
	Because nobody urinates on the subway.
	Yeah, I know I've got baggage.
	My father was arrested and tortured and given a life sentence by a secret police regime in a communist nation.
	But guess what?
	I don't care if your family never suffered under communism.
	It's still wrong.
	If you like Putin, Then you'll approve of what they're doing to President Trump here, because the tactics are the same.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	It's Second Amendment Friday.
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	Just need a title for Wilkie, hint for that.
	Was that clear enough?
	In what way?
	Just comprehension.
	Um, I mean, I guess so.
	All right.
	So, uh, and this is the anger on case.
	Yeah.
	364 million.
	Ban from doing business.
	Right there, banning Don Jr.
	364, not 168?
	No, it was 168, 128, then I got another... There was a bunch of them, I was just trying to read it quick.
	Multiple different handouts, yeah.
	And Eric and Don Jr.
	have to pay 4 million each.
	And they're both banned from serving as officers for the company.
	All three of them?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And banned from doing business in New York for three years.
	years.
	Thank you.
	Making sense out of today's nonsense, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	I'm not sure if nonsense is the right phrase here.
	Absolutely unbelievable.
	We are posting the full judgment from the New York court on my social media.
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	Alright, we are delighted to have with us a man who, I don't know how many hours of sleep he got since October the 7th.
	If you switched on the news, he was everywhere explaining what our friends in Israel are doing to crush the barbarians, the savages that slaughtered more innocents.
	Thank you for having me.
	A pleasure to be here.
	attack of its kind against Israel since the Holocaust. He has taken off his IDF uniform
	and we are delighted to welcome the newest senior fellow at a place where I used to hang
	my hat, the Foundation for Defense of Democracy, former Lieutenant Colonel John Konrikos. Welcome
	to America First.
	Thank you for having me. A pleasure to be here. And may I say, Alaska is a beautiful
	place to go.
	So you've been, you've been, I haven't been, but you've been.
	All right.
	I've been.
	Maybe you should join us.
	Colonel, can I ask you, are Cliff and everybody else treating you right at FDD?
	My former colleagues?
	You know, it is a place, the Foundation for Defense of Democracies is a place that I am very proud to be associated with.
	The only bad thing is that I'm surrounded by people that are much smarter and much more accomplished than I am.
	And I have to work hard in order to, you know, trying to level.
	But it is a tremendous place to be.
	And I strongly recommend people to read their product.
	They have been writing.
	I mean, I think that on your level of output, Sebastian, in terms of getting out there with military strategic analysis from an American patriotic perspective, and anybody who cares about U.S.
	interests in the region, U.S.
	foreign policy, they should definitely check out FTD.
	Yeah, they've been doing it since 9-11.
	Not only do they understand the jihadi threat, they also understand the people behind it in Iran.
	The website is fdd.org.
	That's the Foundation for Defense of Democracy, fdd.org.
	If I may, could you give us, in military terms, an update, a sit-rep from Israel's war with the Jihadis.
	How are things going?
	If you gave us a snapshot right now, we still have people who are being held hostage, but could you give us an update because I don't want us to forget what Israel is doing right now.
	Yes, so we are more than four months into the war.
	We have still 134 hostages being held by Hamas in Gaza.
	Some of them sadly are presumed dead.
	Some of them we know are alive and we are hot on the heels of Hamas with the IDF in trying to get them out.
	Successful a few days ago with rescuing two Israeli civilians who, by the way, were held in a Palestinian civilian apartment.
	Not a Hamas tunnel, but ordinary so-called Palestinian civilians who held these Israelis captive for four months.
	But bigger picture is that we are fighting two active fronts.
	Main front is Gaza.
	Secondary front is Lebanon against Hezbollah.
	In Gaza, the fighting has gone south and the IDF, I think it's safe to say, is in the last stages of dismantling an important Hamas stronghold in a place called Khan Yunis in southern Gaza.
	A few more weeks of work and Khan Yunis will fold and the remaining Hamas terrorists there will either die or surrender.
	And then the next stage, much anticipated and spoken about, will be Rafah.
	The border town between the Egyptian side of the border and the Gazan side, which is very important and strategic for the IDF to take in order to be able to actually defeat Hamas.
	The reasons for Rafah being so important are that A, most likely there are hostages being held in and under Rafah.
	Two, there's four Hamas battalions that are still holding on to themselves there in Rafah
	and they need to be dismantled.
	And three, and perhaps most importantly, there are tunnels which are the oxygen supply for
	everything that Hamas has in Gaza.
	And for those three reasons, I don't think that Israel has any choice but to go in and
	take that area.
	Would you want me to say a word about the north as well?
	Yes, absolutely.
	The second front.
	Yeah, and the second front, we are talking about a much bigger military threat than Hamas
	in Gaza.
	Hezbollah is almost five times stronger and more equipped in terms of quantity, quality of rockets and missiles, quantity and quality of military personnel, their fighters, the terrorists that they have, and it's a much larger area.
	And for four months, Israeli civilians have been Forced out of their homes by relentless rocket and missile fire from Lebanon at Israeli communities.
	And this is a situation that is totally unsustainable that will have to end by Hezbollah being pushed back north away from Israeli communities.
	And it can happen in one of two ways.
	Either diplomatically That Hezbollah agrees to a diplomatic agreement.
	There's a lot of US involvement and French involvement and German intervention in it.
	And hopefully that can be achieved.
	But if that doesn't happen, then Israel won't have a choice but to achieve it by itself by using force.
	In Israel, we're hoping for that not to be necessary.
	But, you know, Israelis out of their homes for more than four months now.
	It's an unsustainable situation that needs to come to an end.
	We only have a minute left with Jonathan Conrico, Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.
	Is there any indication openly from either the Prime Minister's office or from the IDF how long it will take to make sure that Hamas no longer has the capacity to hurt Israelis?
	I think that we can realistically speak about a few more months of high-intensity fighting.
	Three, perhaps four months, until Hamas is dismantled first in Khan Yunis and most importantly in Rafah.
	We'll have to do that while making sure that civilians aren't hurt in the process and that's an important concern from an Israeli perspective.
	But then once we get into Rafah, it'll be a few months of fighting and I think in a few, probably four months from now, the situation will be different and Hamas will be defeated much to the dismay of the UN and many Israel haters around the world.
	Israel is and will defeat Hamas and will secure Prosperity and security for Israelis living in southern Israel.
	God willing, God willing.
	We will continue the discussion, hopefully for a longer chat in studio.
	In the meantime, follow this gentleman, Jay Conricus, that's C-O-N-R-I-C-U-S, and also at F-D-D dot O-R-G, the newest senior fellow amongst my former colleagues.
	Your call is next here on America First.
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	We'll be back after these messages.
	Transcription sponsored by RenaissanceRe Thanks a lot. Okay, titles.
	Um...
	That.
	When Israel will win against Hamas.
	one, if you like Putin, you like Biden.
	Thank you.
	And Wilkie.
	Wilkie, uh...
	What's a good one there?
	I don't know.
	All right.
	I would do what the Secretary of State was doing when they were killed.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	What Blinken was doing when our troops died or something like that?
	Yeah, what was, what was, uh, what's it, Anthony Blinken?
	Yeah.
	Anthony Blinken doing Uh, when our troops were killed.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	All right.
	All right.
	So, uh, my pillow here.
	Let's see.
	Is there a good cut to come in with?
	Can you play me 14?
	14.
	Right.
	Don't let the legalese fool you.
	This is epic.
	This is monumental.
	If things are going in the direction we think.
	Alright, uh, oh, eleven.
	Not exactly current on the prices, but here's what it cost to Moscow.
	Six hundred and...
	647 rubles.
	That is exactly $7.
	$7.05, I think.
	And for that, we got two cheeseburgers, large fries, large cola, Coke, knockoff, and a piece of chocolate cake.
	Is it?
	Is that healthy?
	No.
	I should say Putin banned GMO foods in Russia four years ago, which is interesting.
	I didn't ask about that.
	I probably should have.
	But so maybe we're in a little better shape?
	I'm not sure.
	Three.
	Cut three.
	I think there's a plausible case for perjury here, but I think there's an open and shut case for disqualification based on the appearance of impropriety.
	Look, when you admit that you paid for all these trips on your credit cards, then the burden of proof shifts to the other side to demonstrate that there was payback in cash.
	And the fact that there are no records and the payments... One minute.
	Do you want to come in with something?
	Yeah, come in with that.
	That's good.
	Come in with three.
	Dersh.
	And then I'll tee up eight.
	But you're doing pillow at the top here?
	Yeah, but come in with Dersh.
	Play me seven quickly.
	We're not talking about a whole lot of money.
	We're going to the Bahamas.
	$1,500 in cash is in my pocket or at the most $2,500.
	Belize was actually probably the most money I've ever taken and it was taken because it was a big deal.
	My 50th birthday sucked.
	His 50th birthday, it sucked.
	It was terrible. No You
	You You
	you you
	I think there's a plausible case for perjury here, but I think there's an open and shut case for disqualification based on the appearance of impropriety.
	Look, when you admit that you paid for all these trips on your credit cards, then the burden of proof shifts to the other side to demonstrate that there was payback in cash.
	And the fact that there are no records, and the payments all have records, but the repayments have no records, gives rise to a plausible interpretation that that's not true.
	So what's the Fannie Willis case about?
	That's of course Alan Dershowitz.
	It's about what?
	She hired a married man that she was having sex with as her chief prosecutor against President Trump.
	They went on lavish... She had seven vacations.
	Seven vacations in less than a year.
	All across the world.
	Belize, you name it.
	Was paying for it on what?
	A corporate government card.
	And then he reimbursed her in cash There's no receipts.
	How absolutely convenient.
	Maybe that's why she, Fannie Willis, the woman who wants to put President Trump in prison, got a little bit angry yesterday.
	Cut eight.
	The money that you paid, Mr. Wade, the cash in October of 2022, you do not know where that money came from.
	I do know where it came from.
	It came from my sweat and tears.
	You know which job it came from.
	Did it come from Fulton County or did it come from a private job?
	It came from, I don't, I'm not, what are you talking about?
	So it could have come from a private job because before I was VA, I was in private practice.
	So I earned money during that time period that's probably in there.
	You don't know where it came from.
	What do you mean I don't know where it came from?
	I absolutely do.
	I understand the situation.
	What do you mean I don't know where it came from?
	Ah, the picture of professionalism.
	That person actually runs prosecutions in that county.
	We'll go to your course.
	A couple of people have recommendations.
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	Let's go to Glenn in Phoenix.
	Are you there, Glenn?
	Yeah, so I had a question.
	Something that you said last week, and I don't... Yeah, and you didn't stay on the line.
	We wanted to discuss it.
	What was the point you wanted to raise last week, Glenn?
	So you made a comment on Jen and Grant's show that you cannot be MAGA and support Russia.
	Correct.
	But the funny thing is, nobody I know that's MAGA.
	I do not know one person that's MAGA that sides with Ukraine.
	Every person that I know that's MAGA thinks Ukraine is embezzling our country.
	They have something on Joe Biden and they are blackmailing our country right now.
	So hang on a second, hang on a second.
	So it was okay for Russia to invade?
	No, not at all.
	But then they have a right to defend themselves, don't they?
	Irrespective of how corrupt the nation is, I mean, this nation is woefully corrupt.
	The White House, the Department of Justice, does that mean that China could invade just because the government is corrupt?
	You're right.
	So who the hell are we to lecture any other country when we have political prisoners?
	That's what I want to know is who the hell are we?
	I'm not talking about lecturing any other country.
	I'm talking about principles.
	Principles.
	A nation being invaded by another nation that is a nuclear power.
	is wrong, okay? They have a right to fight for their own freedom,
	whether they're corrupt or not. Otherwise, 1776 shouldn't have happened and this should still be a British
	colony. My point wasn't even about the war in Ukraine. We can debate that
	as much as you like.
	My point is, you can't be pro-Putin, because he's a murderer.
	He just killed somebody who was anti-Putin politically, and he was murdered in prison.
	If you think the January 6th prisoners shouldn't be abused, then you shouldn't be approving of a man who does that, but actually kills his political prisoners.
	Why would you approve of Vladimir Putin, who's using the same tactics as Joe Biden, Glenn?
	I don't understand it.
	Why would you approve of him?
	Because I don't think we have any moral high ground.
	That's not the point!
	Morals exist, Glenn.
	Morals exist.
	Is what happened to the January 6th prisoners wrong, Glenn?
	Is it wrong?
	Of course.
	You can't even answer the question.
	Go away.
	Go away, Glenn.
	If you can't tell me that we have political prisoners in America, but you want to use it as some kind of point scoring to say, well, in that case, we can't judge people.
	Garbage!
	Just because bad things happen here doesn't mean it makes it right.
	Grow up, you child!
	Bad things happen, therefore we can't make judgments?
	What kind of world do you live in?
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	So what?
	So what if they had this relationship?
	The question is, did they lie about it?
	So what if they had it?
	Exactly.
	But why does this prejudice Donald Trump or any of these defendants at all?
	I mean, that's the thing that's so baffling about it.
	Yeah, I think The View found a backup host.
	I mean, the amount of nonsense she can unload matches all of them combined.
	I'm like the judge.
	I didn't know you could be... We're not talking about a whole lot of money.
	We're going to the Bahamas.
	$1,500 in cash is in my pocket, or at the most $2,500.
	Belize was actually probably the most money I've ever taken, and it was taken because it was a big deal.
	My 50th birthday sucked.
	His 50-year birth, it sucked.
	It was terrible.
	Nine.
	Because of the way you phrased the question, you said, when I chose him, I didn't inform people of a personal relationship.
	We have defined personal as romantic.
	It is an inaccurate way to state the question.
	And I will certainly restate it so it is very accurate.
	Hang on.
	I can't hit two things at once.
	He doesn't want to do it.
	The statement is coming out, but he's not allowed to talk about this case or anything.
	He doesn't have to talk about it.
	He said he's got to come up with a statement, so he doesn't have time.
	Oh, he's got to write a statement?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay, fine.
	Just block and we'll take calls.
	Uhh...
	You You
	So what?
	So what if they had this relationship?
	The question is, did they lie about it?
	I agree with you.
	So what if they had it?
	Exactly.
	But why does this prejudice Donald Trump or any of these defendants at all?
	I mean, that's the thing that's so baffling about all this.
	Suppose they had this relationship.
	Suppose they lied.
	Why does that disqualify them in this proceeding?
	An attorney lying to the court is not good.
	Jeff, for those who are listening and not watching, could you tell us who that was who was saying that Fannie Willis having sex with her chief prosecutor against President Trump shouldn't matter?
	Hang on, we can't hear you.
	Mic's on, mic's on.
	Yes, his name is Jeffrey Toobin.
	And what is the most famous thing Jeffrey Toobin is famous for?
	A Zoom call during the pandemic.
	Lots of people did Zoom calls during the pandemic.
	Yeah, but not everyone was caught.
	What are we supposed to say?
	How do you say that in Salem radio?
	Let you candle this one.
	Slapping the monkey?
	Is that allowed?
	That'll work.
	Yeah, I think so.
	And he was doing that with his colleagues at CNN, right?
	And where is he?
	He's back on CNN.
	That wasn't enough to get fired.
	So that's the guy you ask about things not being sexually improprietous, correct?
	Yeah, he's the one that doesn't think it's a big deal.
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	Okay, let's talk about, let's have some movie chat.
	Mike Atlanta!
	Yeah, I remember a few things a couple weeks ago.
	You guys were talking about the Oh, crud.
	The movie that had Clint Eastwood, uh, Firefox.
	Yes, that was a good few weeks ago.
	Cold War classic.
	Yeah, I usually listen to you guys on my way home from school where I'm teaching social studies, but I've got some movies that are probably back from before you and I were born that are still really great movies.
	Alright, give me two of them.
	Okay, The Bridges at Toko-Ri.
	Starring William Holden, Grace Kelly and Mickey Rooney.
	Wow!
	Some of the best... Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	I've got to scribble this down into my list of movies that we get from our callers.
	The Bridges over Tokuri.
	At Tokuri.
	At Tokuri.
	Okay, give me one more.
	Just one thing, I just want to let you know about.
	Yeah.
	Very quickly, it is shot live on the USS Arisconi.
	All the flying shots is part of the Navy fighter squadron, the Golden Dragons, who became the world famous Golden Dragons after the movie.
	But it's got lots of landings, takeoffs, air combat.
	Wow.
	The practical effects are still up there and, to be honest with you, better than Top Gun.
	Well, Top Gun's a little bit cheesy by now.
	Okay, good.
	Any other movies?
	I'll check it out.
	Mike, any other movies?
	Yeah.
	The other one came from 55, Strategic Air Command, with Jimmy Stewart.
	I've seen it and it's amazing in terms of the footage of the bombers, the B-1s and everything else.
	I have to admit, Mike, it's a little slow.
	Strategic Air Command is a little slow of a movie, but I have put the bridge over the Tokaree on our list.
	Thank you.
	Happy Friday.
	Let's go to the City of Brotherly Love.
	Chris in Philly!
	I wonder if Chris Coles has ever seen Sidney Lumet's 1980 masterpiece, The Verdict, which the plot is perfect for the times when crooked, partisan judge, hamstringing, Paul Newman against the even more evil and corrupt James Mason.
	Fabulous cast, fabulous movie, The Verdict.
	I have written it on my list.
	Thank you, Chris.
	Great, great suggestions.
	Great, great calls.
	Let's go to Fanny Willis.
	Alex in Brooklyn has something to say.
	Line four.
	Yeah, hi, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	So today, Fanny Willis' dad testified, and he said that he watches and he listens to Conservative Talk Radio, so he's probably listening around now to this show.
	I doubt it, because what do we know about Fanny Willis' dad, Eric?
	What is it about him?
	Is it like a former Black Panther or something?
	A former Black Panther, and then I guess while he was on the stand today, I heard he was boasting about the time he moved to South Africa and worked with Nelson Mandela, apparently.
	Yeah, just as much as Joe Biden did.
	And maybe just today he's listening to, you know, to prove to his friends maybe that he's whipped, that he listens to it.
	So if you're listening, that of Fannie Willis, she says you had an influence on her, but you should be ashamed of yourself because she is so corrupt.
	And you could have taught her better.
	And if it's true that he does listen to conservative radio, then he knows that everything the media... Alex, Alex, Alex.
	Stop it, stop it, stop it.
	We know he doesn't listen to conservative media.
	It's just a lie.
	The same way that he has three safes in his house for cash.
	It's not because he's worried about the government.
	We know why.
	Very quickly, George in California, line five.
	Yes, sir.
	Movie pick real quick.
	High Noon.
	Absolutely.
	We'll put it on the list.
	So yesterday, that guy that you took off air, that... Oh, the guy who said Christians must have open borders.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Exactly.
	And he claimed to be an atheist.
	Well, let's go with that.
	If you're an atheist, one of his pals, Yuval Harari, Bongino played a clip of him, Yuval Harari, at a TED Talk saying, Human rights is a myth, like God, like heaven.
	So if there is a myth... Oh, yes, absolutely, George.
	If you don't believe in God, then where does right and wrong come from?
	Absolutely correct.
	That's the big trouble with atheists.
	If there is no God, there is no objective truth, then why should anybody be nice to anyone?
	Excellent.
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	Oh yeah.
	Let's do it in the break.
	Alright.
	Let's do it in the break.
	So we've done Dershowitz.
	We've done Tubin.
	We did Tucker.
	Er, no, no we didn't.
	I'm missing that in the break.
	Play me 10.
	Then is this just tomorrow?
	Tomorrow, Judge Angoran is expected to issue a verdict in Trump's $370 million civil fraud trial.
	And I'll tell you right now, whatever he rules, I believe the verdict is unfair to me.
	Because I don't have a show tomorrow, and justice delayed is punchlines denied.
	Nine.
	Because of the way you phrased the question, you said, when I chose him, I didn't inform people of a personal relationship.
	We have defined personal as romantic.
	It is an inaccurate way to state the question.
	And I will certainly restate it so it is very accurate.
	Okay, and please do not yell at me.
	What is she saying?
	The 50th birthday sucked is the best one.
	Yeah, yeah, come in with that.
	That's too good.
	Cut seven.
	That's too good.
	All right.
	Is she saying on one of these cruises it was her 50th birthday?
	No, I think she was saying she went to Belize.
	that was expensive because her 50th birthday sucked.
	I'm gonna go get some more.
	We're not talking about a whole lot of money.
	We're going to the Bahamas.
	$1,500 in cash is in my pocket, or at the most $2,500.
	Belize was actually probably the most money I've ever taken, and it was taken because it was a big deal.
	My 50th birthday sucked.
	His 50th birthday, it sucked.
	It was terrible.
	Jeff, is that Fannie Willis in a court being accused of corruption?
	Did she just say, my 50th birthday sucked?
	That is my favorite clip of the week.
	What do you think is going to happen?
	And Eric doesn't trust this judge, but seriously, this has been... Julie Kelly tweeted out yesterday, this is the biggest story and the most fun story in a decade.
	And I kind of think she might be right.
	She's going to be thrown off regardless because it's too embarrassing right now.
	Bingo.
	Because people have seen her.
	It's embarrassing.
	Bingo.
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	Nancy, Pennsylvania.
	Hi, Dr. G. Hey.
	As a lawyer, her, Loverboy, and the whole trial, all of it is a total embarrassment to me.
	However, if Trump wants to pick a black female vice president, just like Biden insisted, Trump could pick Fannie Willis, because her background sounds like that of Kamala.
	And then Fannie could be Trump's insurance policy so that he would never be thrown out.
	Yeah.
	I like your sense of humor.
	Stay on the line.
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	Dementia Joe has to go.
	I think we're going to give the first ever Dementia Joe has got to go t-shirt with Biden eating his ice cream.
	We're going to give it to Nancy because You just made me laugh.
	And it's Friday, and people who make me laugh on Friday need to be rewarded.
	Stay on the line, Nancy.
	Superbly done, superbly done.
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	We're going to talk about Russian space nukes with a former military intelligence combat veteran.
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	Oh, I believe, based upon the information that I know, and based upon not just the documentary evidence, but the corroborating testimony from so many people, I believe that he will be found guilty on all charges.
	All of us should reject the dangerous statements made by the previous president.
	that invited Russia to invade our NATO allies if they weren't paying up.
	He said if an ally did not pay their dues, he'd encourage Russia to, quote,
	do whatever the hell they want.
	I guess I should clear my mind here a little bit and not say what I'm really thinking,
	but let me be clear.
	This is an outrageous thing for a president to say.
	I can't fathom.
	I can't fathom.
	and from Truman on they're rolling over their graves hearing this.
	You know, I'm not going to be able to do that.
	I'm going to be able to do that.
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	It may be Friday, maybe Second Amendment Friday, but we have to talk about serious news.
	No better guest to talk about international issues.
	What happened in Russia in the last 24 hours and what happened in New York in the last 60 minutes than former congressman from New York, Combat veteran, military intelligence professional, Lee Zeldin.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Hey Sam, good to be with you.
	I reached out to you today because of an amazing tweet you posted.
	We'll talk about that in a second, but first...
	He's the leader of the opposition, to use a British term.
	He's trouncing the current incumbent in every poll.
	He is the de facto nominee for his party.
	And now a judge has said he's barred from running his own companies in New York and he has to pay Godless amount of money in penalties in a crime where there was no victim and no crime was committed.
	Can you react to the news from Judge Engeron's court concerning President Trump?
	It's a disgrace.
	And his sons, too, are unable to work and be in this position of leadership with New York-based companies and entities.
	It really is sick, depending on which venue You can engage in lawfare that attacks democracy, destroys democracy in the name of democracy.
	This is about going after a political opponent, and the merit doesn't matter.
	I mean, so much of this case was decided before President Trump even had an opportunity to start presenting facts.
	This was prejudged against him, not because of Anything specifically being charged and what the evidence says to back it up, it's just because they're going after Donald Trump.
	And if you put the shoe on the other foot, I mean, we all would be flipping out.
	Obviously, the Democrats would be flipping out if Republicans were, you know, Republican DAs in red areas were You're trying to put Joe Biden in jail for not even any good reason.
	Just put him in jail just to put him in jail.
	In the United States of America, if you love our country, it shouldn't matter what party you are.
	Everyone should see that as for exactly what it is and speak out against it.
	But instead, right now, 2024, Democrats across the border are playing along.
	It's sick.
	Well, let's make that broader point of seeing it for what it is and connect it to the breaking news out of the Russian Federation.
	In a Siberian prison camp above the Arctic Circle, a 47-year-old man who was opposition to the current incumbent Vladimir Putin, Alex Navalny
	suddenly died a day after being seen on a video call as healthy. This is his wife's reaction
	today at the Munich Security Conference. This is Yulia Navalny. Play cut to please.
	If it is the truth, I would like Putin and all his staff, everybody around him, his government,
	his friends, I want them to know that they will be punished for what they have done with our country,
	with my family and with my husband.
	They will be brought to justice and this day will come soon.
	Now, you made this tweet earlier today, and you expressed something that I've been grappling with for the last couple of days, especially after the Tucker interview with Putin.
	And I'm going to read it, because it's exactly what I wanted to express.
	As the world reflects on the murder of Alexei Navalny at the hands of Putin, It's worth remembering that Democrats are actively doing Biden's bidding as they also try to imprison his chief political opponent Donald Trump, remove him from the ballot and ensure that he dies in prison.
	There is a direct line between Biden's police state tactics And what Putin does in Russia.
	We don't have gulags, but we have January 6th political prisoners.
	Why is it so difficult, seemingly, Lee Seldin, for some conservatives to make that connection?
	This is not any big leap.
	What I tweeted there is 100% true.
	And it's making the left's mind blow off today.
	You know, Chuck Schumer and all sorts of Democrats have been going after me all day long because of that tweet.
	Oh really?
	Because my problem is with conservatives who say Vladimir Putin's a great guy and there's no crime on the streets of Moscow, but you're having negative reaction from the Democrats?
	Well, the Democrats want to be able to politicize Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
	Putin, Putin, Putin, Putin.
	Going back to 2016, that was connected to trying to get an insurance policy on Trump to get a special counsel appointed.
	They used that as their main grounds for objecting on January 6th of 2017 on the floor of the House.
	Have done it on January 6th, every time a Republican's won for decades, but the left doesn't want to talk about it.
	The reality here is that it undercuts the left's narrative when Putin is out there endorsing Joe Biden for President of the United States.
	Which in case our listeners missed it, he did that yesterday because he said, Biden's more predictable, which is an endorsement from a bloody dictator.
	And then they go after Trump as if Trump is in the pocket of Putin.
	I was in Congress when Obama was there.
	He refused to provide lethal aid to Ukraine.
	Then Donald Trump comes into office.
	He provides the lethal aid to Ukraine.
	And then he's the one getting criticized as if the roles were all reversed.
	All we're doing is just calling it out for what it is.
	Stating facts.
	And watching heads explode because the facts, the truth, undercuts their spin, their bullshit, and their other narratives.
	And we're just going to continue to state facts and dam the torpedoes.
	So, I'm pleased to hear that you identified or helped to catalyze the left's hypocrisy.
	Do you have any comment for those who say that they're America first and they're MAGA and seem to be rooting for Vladimir Putin?
	I mean, I think that Putin thinks he's seven feet tall.
	He wants to put the USSR back together again.
	We see it play out with today's news with Navalny.
	We see how this guy operates.
	He meddles in not just The Democrats want to talk about 2016 and push their theories, but Putin was meddling at the great risk and sacrifice of U.S.
	soldiers serving in Afghanistan.
	Russia was meddling in Syria.
	His foreign policy has, in so many different ways, posed foreign policy and national security threats to the U.S.
	from cyber security to more. And we just have to be aware, eyes wide open,
	what we're dealing with here. Because while I believe China presents a massive, if not the
	largest geopolitical threat facing the United States right now globally, countries like Russia
	and Iran and elsewhere, they're competing for that first place trophy. You can't get anything
	wrong in ignoring what these facts are of how Putin operates.
	Yeah.
	Thank you for bringing some clarity to our side.
	Former Congressman Lee Zeldin, former nominee for the governorship of New York, and also Exposing once more the hypocrisy of the left.
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	All of us should reject the dangerous statements made by the previous president
	that invited Russia to invade our NATO allies if they weren't paying up.
	He said if an ally did not pay their dues, he'd encourage Russia to, quote,
	do whatever the hell they want.
	I guess I should clear my mind here a little bit and not say what I'm really thinking.
	But let me be clear.
	This is an outrageous thing for a president to say.
	I can't fathom.
	I can't fathom.
	and from Truman on they're rolling over their graves hearing this.
	And I think that's a really good point.
	I think that's a really good point.
	Because of the way you phrased the question, you said, when I chose him, I didn't inform people of a personal relationship.
	We have defined personal as romantic.
	It is an inaccurate way to state the question.
	Then I will certainly restate it so it is very accurate.
	Okay, and please do not yell at me.
	Who yelled there?
	I know I'm an immigrant and maybe my grasp of American English is weak, but yelling is shouting!
	I don't think anybody yelled there, but Fanny Willis didn't have a good day yesterday, just like her 50th birthday was.
	What, Eric, what did you say on the stand?
	Her 50th birthday what?
	My 50th birthday sucked.
	That's a district attorney, ladies and gentlemen.
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	He is, of course, Senior Counsel to the President of the Heritage Foundation, Heritage.org, Colonel, Doctor, all around.
	Nice guy.
	Jim Carrafano.
	Happy Friday.
	Well, you know what?
	He's working as we speak.
	He's sending texts.
	No, no, no.
	No, I'm sorry.
	Every time I see fans... So, you know my good friend Hans von Spickowski?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Mr. Election.
	Integrity.
	The ace legal guy.
	The entire, like, the big brain.
	The 80-pound brain.
	The brandest brain of legal affairs, right?
	So, we were in the green room together.
	He's going on before me, and I said, well, the legal panel's going.
	You guys are going first.
	And they were just wrapping up her testimony, so I knew that they were going to be... Talking about her.
	Talking about her, and I'm like, this is like shooting fish in a barrel.
	I was like, can we swap stories?
	Like, let me do the legal thing, because this is just way too easy.
	And then you talk about the hard stuff.
	Yeah, a friend of mine, Julie Kelly, tweeted this yesterday, I've already said it, that she said, that footage was the biggest, funniest story of the decade.
	And she might be right.
	I never thought you'd see a prosecutor behave like that.
	I do think it...
	You know, we can argue the legal points, I'm not a legal expert, but it is uncontestably true that the narrative, I think, to most Americans, and you know me, I'm not political, but I'm just observing as an observer, to most Americans is that this is a campaign of lawfare against Trump, because when you see people like that, and their character and who they are, and the kinds of cases they're bringing, it's hard to believe that this is The ordered liberty that they intended, that everybody would be treated equally before the law.
	There's a phrase in the UK for it.
	It's called a stitch-up.
	And my friend Chris Platt has been playing this audio all morning.
	I think you've heard it four times in his show.
	When she was campaigning for that position.
	Oh yes.
	Did you hear that?
	Yes.
	She said, and we deserve in this county a prosecutor who doesn't have sex with his employees.
	Who isn't corrupt, right?
	And who isn't corrupt.
	Well, maybe not his employees, but her employees?
	There may be exceptions.
	Seriously, if you haven't heard the audio, go find it.
	Okay, let's get down to serious work.
	When a head of state, irrespective of party, when a president speaks of nuclear threats and nuclear weapons, that's a big deal, right?
	That should be done accurately.
	Right.
	Okay, let's play what Joe Biden said today about the nuclear space threat from Russia.
	How concerned are you about the anti-satellite capability that Russia is developing and what is your administration planning to do in response?
	First of all, there is no nuclear threat to the people of America or anywhere else in the world with what Russia is doing at the moment, number one.
	Number two, anything that they're doing and or they will do relates to satellites in space and damaging those satellites potentially.
	Number three, There is no evidence that they have made a decision to go forward with doing anything in space either.
	So what we found out, there was a capacity to launch a system into space that could theoretically do something that was damaging.
	Hadn't happened yet, and my hope is it will not.
	So, there is no nuclear threat, hasn't happened yet, and I hope it won't.
	That's reassuring, isn't it, Jim?
	Yeah, so all three of those statements are actually incorrect.
	And there's kind of two stories running in parallel here.
	One is, why the release of this intel now?
	Was that intended to influence the Ukraine vote?
	That's a story, right?
	And then there's a story about the Russian threat.
	We ought to parse them because they're two different things.
	Separate it.
	Is there a legitimate Russian threat to our satellites in space that is a serious strategic threat to the United States?
	The answer is absolutely.
	It's not just Russia, it's Russian-Chinese.
	So there's no nuclear threat against the United States.
	Russia's got the largest nuclear force on the planet.
	Hang on, hang on.
	I heard that they're targeting Trinidad and Tobago with those nukes.
	Did you hear that?
	I doubt that, because they're actually more pro-Russian than we are.
	Actually, a lot of Islamists come out of Trinidad.
	One of the biggest percentage contributors to ISIS was from those places.
	So I think they're pointing somewhere else.
	So yeah, of course there is.
	But this whole thing about the space threat, it absolutely is a real threat.
	Both China and Russia have our planning, they've tested, they have plans to take down our stuff in space.
	You know, from both a military perspective and an economic perspective, us and virtually everybody else on the planet really, really dispense on this.
	So it's a very, very, very serious threat, and we ought to take it really seriously.
	And what you said was just completely unhelpful.
	Well, we should take it so seriously, shouldn't we, Jim Carrafano, that we have like a space force and a space command?
	So this is the story that nobody is talking about.
	This has actually been a building threat for a long time.
	And when, the he who shall not be named was president, right?
	The guy before Biden.
	He did something that no president had been achieved in 20 years of trying, which is he created a space force
	against the objection of a lot of people in Congress, against the objection of his own defense department,
	against the objective of people in his own military.
	He said, no, we really need this.
	Now, fast forward, what, six, four, five years, right?
	We are actually developing real capabilities in space and fielding them, and we're actually getting back in the race to protect the high ground, and it's all thanks to Donald Trump.
	Hang on, he named him!
	Oh, sorry, it was a mistake.
	So if Biden actually wanted to say, well, you know, there is an anti-satellite threat from Russia and China, but we're standing up to meet that, he should then say, and we ought to thank President Trump for putting that capability out there, because he did that when nobody else did.
	Just mind-blowing.
	He's so right.
	I remember there was such resistance from across the political aisles, from other services as well, to having a space force.
	Why would you resist?
	It is the next dimension of warfare after cyber.
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	All right so we did PhD, we'll do CAR again and then we'll talk about NATO.
	Yeah, let's do that.
	Did you ever, because Katie was trying to work it out, when did we meet first?
	I know it was probably something Bridget organized.
	Was it here, was it in Europe?
	I have no idea.
	There's a ways to go.
	Was it before?
	I'm sure it was before NDU, but... Yes, it was.
	Yeah, I just don't remember.
	I remember the NDU stuff.
	I just don't remember before that.
	I'd make a great testifier for Fanny Wilson.
	Do you like cash?
	Do you have a lot of cash at home?
	Multiple safes?
	Here's $4,000 in cash for our trip?
	Come on.
	Really?
	Whatever.
	Anyway.
	Oh, would you play me Cut 14 again, please? 14.
	Right.
	Don't let the legalese fool you.
	This is epic.
	This is monumental.
	If things are going in the direction we think Fonny Willis lied to the court, it's game over for her.
	She will be disqualified if they had a relationship prior to when they represented to the court.
	It's a huge deal.
	I can't overstate it.
	I mean the Biden thing.
	Yes.
	Yeah, I'll tee it up and then I'll play the clip.
	Cut 13.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I remember when, you know, this was a huge... I actually wrote When I was at NATO Defense College in 1999 in Rome, I had to do a big research paper for them as part of the fellowship, and I wrote about this, about the freeloader complex, because it was before expansion, and I had to justify, as the first Hungarian fellow, that the new members would contribute, unlike the freeloaders.
	I actually have that paper.
	This has been like decades that we've been struggling with this issue.
	It's funny.
	And we've gone from It was two-thirds to nine can't meet target force goals.
	Look, you could argue in the 90s, you know, okay.
	Right, but not now.
	Not now.
	No.
	And you've got hot war, not now.
	Well, actually, ever since 2014, really.
	You cannot.
	Right.
	When was that, Georgia?
	Twenty-one.
	Obama, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And then when was Moldova?
	It's hard to keep track of them.
	All those frozen conflicts.
	Okay, one minute.
	So I heard it, I think I told you this one.
	The Russians can field 40,000 trained troops.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	So all they can do is charge and die.
	Right.
	So there's no way that this, there's no way they're ever gonna conquer this country.
	No.
	Because there's a thing called holding territory.
	Yeah.
	And they're going to, we know they're going to vote this last package of eight, and then they're going to be good.
	And then when Trump comes in, he's actually going to kick their ass.
	Car at the top, I think, T-UP 13.
	Uh, T-UP 13, yeah.
	Yep.
	And then when he comes in, he's actually going to kick their ass.
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	So we both did a Biden in the break.
	Neither of us could remember when we met.
	So it's a long time.
	It's at least 20 years ago.
	A time when I was cutting my teeth on NATO issues.
	And one of the big bugbears back then, Jim, was what was called the freeloader complex.
	President Trump had an answer for it.
	He used the art of the deal.
	But the current incumbent didn't like what he had to say.
	Here is Joe Biden's response.
	Cut 13.
	All of us should reject the dangerous statements made by the previous president that invited Russia to invade our NATO allies if they weren't paying up.
	He said if an ally did not pay their dues, he'd encourage Russia to, quote,
	do whatever the hell they want.
	I guess I should clear my mind here a little bit and not say what I'm really thinking.
	But let me be clear.
	This is an outrageous thing for President to say.
	I can't fathom.
	I can't fathom.
	From Truman on, they're rolling over in their graves hearing this.
	Clear his mind?
	I don't think he has a problem clearing his mind.
	Jim, can you explain why this is a perennial issue and what changed from year one of the Trump administration and year four when it comes to it?
	Well, the biggest thing that changed, look, is really the rise of China, the wanton aggression of Iran,
	and Russia, which is actually trying to achieve geopolitical change by invading countries.
	But what happened to people paying their dues in NATO?
	Well, so what happened was it was very excusable until you're faced with the mounting private.
	And it's not about the United States doing less.
	This is the thing.
	It's not about the US doing less.
	No.
	Right.
	It's about we all have to do more.
	Because we have China to worry about, and Iran, and we're not leaving, but you have to do more too, right?
	And so what Trump did really was what was just common sense, which is we cannot play games anymore, people.
	We actually have to put a conventional deterrent in front of the Russians that will stop the
	Russians and I can't do that.
	You guys have to add to that.
	That's the only way it's going to happen.
	And he said it by literally threatening them.
	And you know what?
	People started to do that.
	So the figures are important.
	We had two thirds of the NATO membership reneging on their promise to spend 2% of their GDP
	on defense.
	When we left the White House, it was down to nine nations.
	And interestingly, which nations took seriously their commitment?
	Where were they geographically, Jim?
	Well, the ones that were in front of Russia.
	Right.
	Which is, which kind of, it gets to the joke that, you know, we all know that Trump's rhetoric is designed to get people's attention, right?
	It's like when you yell at your kids, right?
	And so when he says, well, Russia can do whatever they want, what does that mean?
	Because the countries that are facing NATO, they're not stupid, they're already paying 2%.
	What exactly?
	Are the Russians going to jump over them?
	Luxembourg isn't paying off, so Luxembourg's a free lunch?
	I mean, come on.
	We know that this is just Trump saying, you people are idiots.
	You've got to get serious about this.
	There's a war at your doorstep.
	You know you're next.
	I can't be the fireman everywhere.
	You guys have got to step up.
	And the Europeans are yelling at Trump like somehow this is, you know, he's the problem here.
	This is like some blue city mayor yelling defund the police as the crime rate's going up.
	We've got a minute left, less than a minute.
	You said something very interesting about fieldable forces by Russia in Ukraine.
	They have a problem, right?
	What's the number?
	You know, 45,000 people that are trained and equipped that can actually fight and organize, which basically means they can kind of do one battle.
	Put that into perspective in terms of, you know, how many people... You could, like, cut, like, invade, like, one town, right?
	Right.
	And so they could put a lot of people in the field, but they just die.
	Matter of fact, there are people that are deployed, that are vested in the Russian army, sent to the front, and their body bags are back in two weeks.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	So, Russians cannot win this war.
	Because they have to hold territory.
	Right, and they can't take territory.
	And as you know, it's much easier if you're on defense to hold territory than it is to take it.
	So the Russians can't win this war.
	Here's what we have to worry about.
	It's not the Russia of today.
	If Putin is still around in five years, he's going to build back a military, and he's going to come back and do this again.
	So if we don't not just make sure that Ukraine can defend itself, but if we don't get our act together to deter future conflicts, That'd be really expensive.
	Yeah, that's when it really gets expensive and then you can't ignore it for love or money.
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	All right, I'm super excited about this next interview because it's another SHOT Show Connection.
	We were out there, what, like a month ago, and there's a company that has quite a good reputation when it comes to firearms, especially AR-15s.
	I've got more AR-15s than I can count.
	But I picked one up because it had a very cool scope on it, a weird reason to buy a gun, and then it became one of my favorites.
	It is the Mark 18 from Daniel Defense, and we have with us the man who, well, he's in charge of national sales for none other than Daniel Defense, Matt Hurt!
	Welcome to America First!
	Yes, sir.
	Thank you for having me, Sebastian.
	All right.
	So your booth at SHOT Show was one of the biggest.
	I don't know how many weapons you had up on the wall.
	We'll just talk about one of them or two of them, maybe.
	One of the ladies, lovely ladies who took me under her wing, shoots for you guys, showed me your PCC carbine, your nine millimeter.
	So it's an AR in a pistol caliber.
	Wonderful idea.
	I'm going to have to check it out for myself.
	But then I was shocked This handgun, this is the handgun in my hand, and it looked very similar to a gun I have at home called a Hudson, a unique weapon with a very low bore axis.
	If you're a gun geek, you'll understand what that means.
	But this isn't a Hudson.
	This is the Daniel H9.
	So, Mr. Hurt, Matt, explain to us the resurrection of this iconic weapon.
	So the mystery has been revealed a little bit.
	You know, we had the Hudson rights for many years and we've been working on that.
	One of the really cool things that we wanted to have in this industry is a very unique firearm, and we felt like Hudson really out of the gates kind of started off with that.
	We bought the rights to them years ago and started really working on that project to enhance it, modify it, and make it our own.
	Out of the 20 patents that we owned out of that original handgun, we only used two of them.
	Um, the gun is uniquely Daniel Defense, but it keeps some very, very important traits that Hudson was known for.
	So you've changed almost everything.
	So there's very little interchangeability.
	It looks from the outside the same.
	I picked it up.
	It's clearly lighter.
	But if you change so much about it, I'm curious because I do believe, tell me if I'm wrong, This is the first handgun out of Daniel Defense.
	So why update the Hudson?
	Explain to our millions of listeners why it's so different.
	This isn't just another, you know, plastic Wonder 9.
	Why the H9?
	Yeah, we wanted a heavier handgun that really solved two purposes.
	One being competitive shooting and one being self-defense.
	So it's a very slim design and it's a very low bore axis.
	So it means a very flat shooting gun, which in turn just makes a better shooter.
	So that's really kind of where we started and what we wanted to accomplish.
	And then when you look at the other things happening in the market, so there's lots of choices.
	We always have to worry when a certain party is in power.
	Can you talk to us what you're seeing in the market nationally?
	We have what?
	I think 35 to 40 million new gun owners since the start of COVID.
	How does that affect companies like Daniel Defense?
	Well, I think you could talk to any manufacturer over the past two quarters, just the tremendous growth that we've seen.
	But what we've seen, and most importantly, is a very large growth in a brand new market space, a shooter that didn't even exist two, three years ago.
	With the unease and unrest across the world, and in this nation especially, it's introduced a lot of new shooters, and we're happy to bring those on board and teach them how to shoot.
	You have a reputation, Daniel Defense, for supplying AR-15s to some of our most important operators.
	There's a lot of misinformation about the AR out there, even what it stands for.
	It's not assault rifle, okay guys?
	Okay, it's ArmaLite.
	It's the original manufacturer.
	The current incumbent in the White House said, you don't need one of those!
	We should ban them!
	You just need a double barrel shotgun and fire it off the balcony.
	Matt, as a guy who sells these for a living, why is the AR platform good for everyone?
	You know, six foot three guys like me, or females who are 110 pounds.
	Explain why this is really, after the Ruger 10-22, the iconic American rifle.
	Well, I think it levels the playing field for everybody.
	It's a firearm that checks a lot of boxes.
	And I'll tell you what, when the government tells you you shouldn't have something, you should probably perk your ears up a little bit.
	So I tell everybody, you know, not only own an AR-15, but learn how to use it, learn how to clean it, learn how to be, you know, very proficient with it.
	So yeah, that's important.
	And then lastly, with this massive expansion of our family, tens of millions of new members, there is a kind of cliche of, you know, the grumpy guys at the gun store who think they know everything about firearms.
	We don't want to put off new owners.
	So what's your message, Matt, from Daniel Defense for all of those people who have joined the Second Amendment community?
	And maybe they've done it with a Daniel Defense AR.
	Yeah, go into this new hobby with an open mind and humility.
	Let those that have experience behind it teach you how to use it, teach you how to shoot it.
	Go out and enjoy it.
	It's a sport that can be enjoyed amongst the entire family, and I know I do, and I think that that's a good first step.
	Don't be scared.
	You know, gun guys and gals are fun.
	They're decent individuals who understand what?
	Understand that the right to self-defense is a sacred right.
	Let's put it up there one more time.
	It's the H9.
	It is the rebirth of an iconic firearm.
	So happy that Daniel Defense chose to be the people to bring it back onto the market.
	And please check out, I think we've had them on the Chiron, the website for Daniel Defense is very simply DanielDefense.com.
	Matt Hurt, National Sales Manager, say hi to the team and thank you for joining us today.
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	Fanny Willis.
	I don't think she has much of a future as a Prosecutor, but somebody's got an idea what she could do.
	Her buddy, Greg Gutfeld, one of the good guys.
	Cut five!
	Yeah, I think The View found a backup host.
	I mean, the amount of nonsense she can unload matches all of them combined.
	I'm like the judge.
	I didn't know you could be this combative and belligerent.
	I mean, that's okay, I guess.
	I mean, I mean, does the average guy get the same leeway to do that?
	I mean, why are they so hands off?
	I'd really like to know.
	I'm telling you, man, that was it was exhausting.
	I felt like I was on, I was trapped with a combative customer service rep from a rental
	car agency who was battling me on everything.
	A future on The View.
	God bless you, Greg.
	All right, President Trump has issued an official response to the court mandating over $300
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	The justice system in New York State and America as a whole is under assault by partisan, deluded, biased judges and prosecutors.
	Racist, corrupt AG Tish James has been obsessed with, quote, getting Trump for years and used crooked New York State Judge Engron to get an illegal, un-American judgment against me, My family and my tremendous business.
	I helped New York City during its worst of times.
	And now, while it is overrun with violent Biden migrant crime, the radicals are doing all they can to stop me becoming president again.
	This decision is a complete and total sham.
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	Next up, it's Friday.
	Let's unwind a little bit.
	Let's have some fun with Chris Coles, making movies great again.
	and one of my absolute favorites.
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	music Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world,
	she walks into mine.
	Impressive.
	Most impressive.
	See the things you people wouldn't believe.
	You want to talk to God?
	Let's go see Him together.
	together.
	You Oh, my God.
	Let's go see him together.
	How did you know I had a gun?
	What do you want?
	A free lesson in police work?
	No.
	Are you okay, pal?
	I had a rough day on the job.
	Ah.
	Are you going home now?
	I was about to.
	Well then, you just fulfilled the first rule of law enforcement.
	Make sure when your shift is over you go home alive.
	Here endeth the lesson.
	Not the best Irish accent in the world, but a seminal scene from a seminal movie.
	One of my favorites, the legendary Scotsman playing the Irish James Malone.
	Encountering for the first time as a beat cop, Agent Elliot Ness.
	The Untouchables.
	This is gonna be fun.
	Chris Coles, my co-host.
	He is the creator of the YouTube channels, Mr. Reagan and the Alpha Critic.
	I dearly hope that you love this film quite as much as I do.
	You know what's interesting about the film The Untouchables?
	It is such a perfect film.
	It is such an iconic film.
	It is such a classic of cinema that when I was growing up, I didn't really appreciate it I don't think as much as I should have because at the time people gotta understand at the time that this film came out there were so many great films that came out you kind of took them for granted a little bit like this film would come on tv sometimes
	And of course I would watch it because we would all watch it and everybody quote from it and everybody knew all the different scenes and stuff.
	And we loved this film, but it was one of those films that was just like one of those great films that we had in the 80s.
	But watching it now, because I haven't seen this film for years, and it's kind of the same story of a lot of the great films that we watch on this on this show.
	It's like I get nostalgic for the time period.
	I get nostalgic for a time in which great films were kind of ordinary.
	They would come out so often, these great films, that you just took for granted how amazing these films were.
	You just didn't really appreciate it.
	Now, watching back, seeing such amazing performances, seeing such an amazing film, it really feels like, We should have appreciated it more at the time, but you know, it's nice to look back and be able to appreciate it now.
	Well, those of us who are slightly older did appreciate it.
	We did appreciate it at the time it was happening.
	For the young whippersnappers, they may not have appreciated the excellence of the 80s.
	And of course, you know, this is one of the best movies of the period, 1987.
	Brian De Palma's The Untouchables but I'm curious can I just pass that a little bit because one of your kind of metrics that I love for all the amazing movies we review here is whether or not I want to live in the time period depicted or in the story the environment being shown are you saying that or am I hearing something different that The period we underestimated were the 80s themselves.
	I mean, your comment was like, why don't we have films this good right now?
	Am I getting a new spin on your metric?
	Well, right.
	I mean, yeah, no, exactly.
	Like, I, I think in the 1980s, we just got so many great films all the time.
	You know, that was, there was a standard that was set that was so high.
	Yeah.
	And the filmmakers and the writers and the actress had to live up to that standard.
	That we kind of took those films for granted.
	And now because we just don't get films of that caliber anymore, I'm watching this film and it kind of blows you away at just how brilliant they were.
	I mean, they didn't have any CGI.
	They didn't have, you know, like we have advanced technologically, but we have regressed, I think, creatively and in terms of just the You know, the precision of the filmmaking.
	Maybe they're just pumping out too many projects?
	I'm not really sure.
	I mean, obviously it's a lot to do with, like, DEI.
	You know, they care more about the color of your skin than your merit, obviously.
	That's a huge part of it.
	But I think it's more than that.
	I think that there is an actual, maybe an arrogance or a narcissism where Hollywood producers maybe just don't recognize talent anymore.
	I'm not sure why it hasn't increased in quality.
	It's decreased.
	But the great thing about that is that we can watch these great films again and appreciate them even more, I think, than I did when I was a kid watching it on television.
	So, let's talk about the specific reasons why this is such a great movie.
	Of course, the writing by David Mamet, legendary, probably the greatest script writer we have alive today.
	Brian De Palma, I'm not in general a Brian De Palma movie fan, but his precision comes across, not just the actors themselves, whether it's Sean Connery, whether it's De Niro, whether it's Costner, And then just visually, I mean, look at these shots from inside the church, the classic Chicago way line, or whether it's the first success, he has the duff raid, where, you know, he fails to find the whiskey.
	And then the first raid that Sean Connery takes him on, that's literally, you know, a warehouse of whiskey across the street from the police station.
	And just, you know, Chicago itself, where they filmed it, It's a character in the movie, so it's one of these experiences where, pick a slice, doesn't matter, production design, the Giorgio Armani suits that are made for the movie, the accuracy of the Tommy guns in the raid on the Canada border, the lines, I mean, just, that's the Chicago way.
	I can't identify here any moment where you go, I wish they had CGI or something.
	There's no point in which the story of the Untouchables versus Capone wilts a little bit.
	Yeah, and you know, you made a good point talking about the world that you want to live in, right?
	The universe of the film that they've created.
	Obviously, this is a true story.
	Obviously, you know, Chicago in the 1920s actually did exist.
	Prohibition did exist.
	But these characters that are created for the screen, they're not exactly true to life, right?
	They're creations, they're fictional creations to give life to this story, to make us enjoy this film at the time that it was produced.
	And I can say perfectly honestly, I would love for these men to be my friends today.
	You know, if I could be friends with these gentlemen.
	It would be it would be it would like be life fulfilling in a way because they're all such cool customers.
	They've all got these, you know, interesting things about them.
	And, you know, Elliot Ness in particular, he's a very good man, right?
	He's like a Boy Scout.
	And you really respect him and you respect all the guys.
	Obviously, Sean Connery's character, who I think is a sort of a fictional amalgamation of a bunch of different guys, because there were many more untouchables, I think, in real life than there was in this picture.
	And none of them were killed.
	And none of them were killed.
	Right, right.
	They had to add the drama, of course, which I think is appropriate.
	It makes you care a lot about the characters, make you care a lot about what they're doing, raises the stakes, obviously.
	But I want to live in this world, despite the fact that it's violent, despite the fact that it's, you know, it was a much harder life than it is today.
	And these guys, one thing that blew me away watching this is they act so casually, so natural in the world
	that they're depicting, like when he picks up the phone.
	This is a phone where you have to put this part to your mouth and this part to your ear,
	like it's this ancient type phone, with this clicker thing, there's no dial or anything.
	It's this ancient phone.
	And Kevin Costner picks it up like he's been using it his whole life.
	And you buy it, you believe it.
	Right.
	And it's such a beautiful era, and it's such interesting characters, and I just love the brotherhood, and I love the camaraderie, and I love the character.
	I love the guys, and I want to live in the world.
	Yeah you're so right with everything whether it's the police box key with the Saint Jude medallion whether it's the gramophone player you have to wind up none of it looks like they're fish out of water they are they are in the 1920s 1930s and they make it they sell it absolutely with no question without a Any momentary lapse of, oh, I need to suspend my believability here.
	No.
	The movie is The Untouchables, Brian De Palma.
	We're going to dissect it.
	It's 1987.
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	What is that?
	Mr. Netsch, you're an educated man.
	Let me pay you the compliment of being blunt.
	There is large, a large and popular business, which you are causing dismay.
	Why don't you just cross the street and let things take their course?
	Come in here, please.
	Thank you.
	In Roman times, when a fellow was convicted of trying to bribe a public official,
	they would cut off his nose and sew him in a bag with a wild animal and throw that bag in the river.
	Remember.
	You tell your master that we must agree to disagree.
	You're making a mistake.
	Yeah?
	Well, I've made them before.
	I'm beginning to enjoy them.
	You fellows are untouchable.
	Is that the thing?
	No one can get to you?
	Yeah.
	And you tell Capone that everyone can be gotten to.
	Then I'll see him in hell.
	A little bit of issues with the ADR there and the matching of the words to the lip movements, but I love that scene, Chris, because when Kevin Costner picks up that envelope of cash, which is $2,000, which is his annual wage as a Treasury agent, and he's being promised it by Al Capone every week, and he flings it at that alderman, He looks angry, that righteous indignation, and then the phrase, oh you're untouchables, is that who you are?
	You gotta help me here as an immigrant to this nation.
	This whole movie is predicated on one insane thing, and I'm a teetotaler, have been since my parents passed.
	How on God's green earth Did Americans think there wouldn't be a problem by banning alcohol with the Falstead Act in 1920?
	How did that happen in America?
	Explain that!
	You were born here!
	I don't get it!
	Well, I wasn't born back then, so I don't quite understand.
	Well, I mean, you have different religious movements, you have different time periods where people, you know, they're moralists and they want to make the world a better place.
	You have this all the time where you get this sort of overreaching regulation of things.
	It almost always ends in disaster, you know.
	I mean, I'm not, you know, a pure libertarian, you know.
	I do think that we should have some laws against doing certain kinds of drugs and things like that, because it is so detrimental to people.
	And yes, alcohol is an incredibly detrimental drug, for sure, but it's something that is so ingrained in just about every culture on Earth.
	It's such an important part of, you know, our history, you know, not just as Europeans, but as Christians.
	It's part of the, you know, Christian rituals.
	I mean, it's in the Bible, Christ turning water into wine.
	You know, it's such an integral part of every, you know, every culture, everybody's life, that it's something that is just almost impossible to just get rid of completely.
	And, you know, they tried and it didn't work, but a valiant effort.
	And I've actually read somewhere that, in fact, you know, a lot of the effects of alcohol that you see on society did diminish significantly during prohibition.
	So, you know, maybe it was a good thing.
	I don't think it could happen again, but, you know, it was worth a try.
	Well, when you can make beer and wine quite easily in your basement, it's rather a problematic issue, especially when it's legal in Canada, and they were shipping it.
	Who was shipping it?
	That man, played by, of course, Robert De Niro, Al Capone.
	Here's that moment.
	Never happened in real life.
	Eliot Ness never met Al Capone, even though, you know, they were antagonists.
	But the scene in the hotel, which is actually the, I think it's the Roosevelt University in Chicago.
	Let's play that epic scene.
	Come out here, Capone!
	You wanna fight?
	You wanna fight you and me right here?
	That's it, come on!
	Somebody, you afraid to come out from behind your men?
	You afraid to stand up for yourself?
	You wanna do it now?
	You wanna do it, man, now?
	Speak!
	Speak!
	Not this one.
	You got nothing.
	There's not a lot of talk in the band.
	You're here because you got nothing.
	You got nothing in court.
	You don't got the bookkeeper.
	You got nothing!
	Nothing!
	And if you were a man, you would have done it now.
	You don't got a thing, you punk!
	Sean Connery saves his buddy Elliot Ness from getting iced by Capone's thugs there.
	I'm not a fan of De Niro's politics, but it is quite an amazing performance.
	One thing that shocks you when you do a little bit of research about the real Al Capone Do you realize that when he took over Chicago, where he killed all of his opponents, the St.
	Valentine's Day massacre, Capone was in his 20s.
	This film is set at his height, when he was 30 years old.
	I find that quite stunning, Chris.
	You know, I realized something when I was younger, just thinking about criminal organizations, gangs, and this sort of thing.
	And it occurred to me that I think that the guy who is the most powerful, the boss, he would always have to be the one that was the scariest, right?
	He'd have to be the guy that everybody else knew either had control of the tough guys in the gang or was the toughest guy in the gang.
	And either way, he had to be able to do what other people were unwilling to do.
	Yeah.
	And they showcase that in this film, where he takes a baseball bat to the head of one of his men
	to show to all the other guys, this is what happens when you fail.
	I murder you with a baseball bat in front of everyone.
	And so you see those little moments in the film.
	You know, I wouldn't have thought that De Niro would have been the best guy to cast for this,
	just because he's such an iconic actor, right?
	He's such a legendary actor.
	Even at this point he was so well known, his face was so well known, to try to put some prosthetics on him and make him look a little bit like Al Capone and have him do this character.
	It just, I don't know, I don't like casting such recognizable actors in such recognizable roles, but in this case I think it does kind of work just because You know, he just has that ability to evoke that sense of anger and a little bit of craziness.
	Well, thuggery.
	I mean, he is... And it works really well.
	It's the quintessence of thuggery.
	He is a thug.
	And to be honest, I don't see myself as squeamish.
	I can watch horror movies.
	They don't excite me.
	But this scene, the baseball bat scene...
	For the last 20-30 years, I'd always fast forward through it.
	It's like, it's too visceral, it's too real, when the blood pools on the table from the aerial shot.
	And by the way, this isn't fictional.
	Mamet didn't make this up.
	Capone used a baseball bat on two of his lieutenants You know beat them up with the baseball bat and then afterwards had them shot so it's slightly different from the way It's played in the movie, but you know this is the reality and this man sells it the movie is the untouchables if one one hour of
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	Do it. Give me that axe.
	Do it.
	Federal officers!
	Get your hands in the air!
	Nobody move!
	This is a raid!
	Everybody in the- What are you doing here?
	All this stuff is impounded!
	You're all under arrest!
	Hey, this isn't right!
	Hey, this is no good!
	You got a warrant!
	Sure, here's my warrant!
	What do you think he feels now?
	Better?
	Or worse?
	Just the naturalism of the dialogue.
	This is no good!
	Yeah, do you think he feels better now?
	The first successful raid for the Untouchables with Malone leading the way.
	So Chris, one of the key things about this movie is just the genuineness of the way men relate to each other.
	I think the epitome of this is when Malone is trying to recruit new recruits, goes to the shooting range, and meets somebody who he doesn't believe is called John Stone.
	Play cut.
	Where are you from, Stone?
	From the South Side.
	Stone.
	George Stone.
	That's your name?
	What's your real name?
	That is my real name.
	Now, what was it before you changed it?
	Giuseppe Petri.
	Jeez, I knew it.
	That's all you need, one thieving wop and a team.
	What's that you said?
	I said that you're a lying member of a no-good race.
	It's much better than you, you stinking Irish pig.
	Oh, I like him.
	Yeah, I like him, too.
	You just joined the Treasury Department, son.
	Just the great acting, the great lines, and just this verity.
	Men who have to, like, tussle with each other, insult each other, and say, yeah, I kind of like you, Chris.
	Yeah, I mean, the brotherhood of these men, like I said before, is one of the great things.
	I often talk about how there's this father-son dynamic in films that we've kind of lost these days, and they have that in this as well, with Sean Connery's character and the Elliot Ness character.
	Yeah, there's just so—we don't have films so much anymore that are just men doing masculine things.
	This is sort of a fantasy fulfillment for men, We don't get that stuff anymore, and I think we need to bring it back.
	This is, I mean, I just loved watching this.
	It was a great time for me.
	So who's responsible for that great theme in that movie?
	Maybe we should ask him.
	Pulitzer Prize winner, surprise guest, author of Speed, The Plowgling, Gary Genross, filmmaker, patriot.
	We are so excited to have him back on the show.
	The one, the only, the writer of The Untouchables, David Mamet.
	Welcome, Mr. Mamet.
	Thank you so much.
	So it's great to be in there.
	Great to be in there with you.
	So would you address Chris's point here?
	When you sit down, is it about great drama and just great drama and storytelling?
	Or is there an agenda?
	Because this is a movie that's about men being men and fighting for each other and the truth.
	I know you can't educate us on one little discussion about one of the greatest movies out there, but when you sit down, when you're given this kind of mission, Where do you begin?
	Well, I'm a gag writer, you know.
	It's one of those things which is true but uninteresting.
	When I was 7, 8, 9 years old, my mother always used to say, David, why must you dramatize everything?
	Because I always dramatized everything.
	It's my nature.
	It might be because my people have been Jews for 6,000 years, and that's what we do.
	We talk in stories, we talk in parables, we talk in jokes.
	We communicate by the punchline of jokes, leaving out the joke.
	So that's what I do, is I sit down and make up dialogue.
	Drama is telling a story through dialogue, right?
	The misuse of drama is to use the dialogue to narrate.
	To say, let me tell you a few things about myself.
	That's terrible drama, and that's almost all the drama that you'll see.
	Or that the movie is narrating, so will you see so-and-so?
	It's a homosexual, or they're a black person, or they're a woman of color, so you understand their situation.
	That's bullshit, right?
	It doesn't make any difference.
	We identify with the hero as soon as the lights go down.
	It doesn't matter what color they are, what sex they are, what gender they are, whatever in the world that may be.
	We get it.
	We're going to watch the hero because the hero is ourselves.
	When we over-specify the hero, it's no longer ourselves.
	Right?
	Somebody with a wooden leg, or somebody who's the victim of racism, or somebody who has cancer.
	Now, the new trend towards woke non-drama has been around a long time.
	When I was a kid coming up, it was illness plays and illness movies.
	So-and-so's deaf, so-and-so's blind, so-and-so Blah, blah.
	That's, in effect, emotional pornography.
	Just saying, oh, let's weep over the cause of those poor unfortunates.
	But this is both cheap and kind of immoral, because you really aren't weeping over the cause of an unfortunate.
	Because if there was someone who was challenged in front of you, the godly thing would be to help him or her.
	So you aren't—and to put your sympathy to one side, because they don't need your sympathy.
	They might need your assistance.
	Which is an act of courtesy and decency, but they don't need your sympathy.
	So the woke drama has its beginnings in illness drama.
	It's the same thing.
	It's stuff written by somebody who can't write for somebody they can't understand, and that person they can't understand is called the audience.
	Well, this is not woke drama.
	This is the antithesis of woke drama.
	And before I... I know Chris has got a question or two.
	There are moments in this movie where the line... I mean, we'll play the church discussion and the Chicago way in a second.
	But there are just these short moments where there's such a genuineness to the dialogue.
	And maybe it's just, you know, innate talent.
	But I'm thinking, for example, When Nidhi is hanging off the tower at the end and he looks up and he smirks at Ness because he thinks Ness isn't going to harm him and he says, harass me, Mr Treasury Man!
	Or there's that moment he's squealed like a pig that triggers Ness to push him off the top of the tower.
	Or even if it's just...
	The end, where, you know, the reporter asks Ness, what are you going to do if they repeal Prohibition?
	And he says, well, I'll have a drink.
	Is good dialogue reflexes of what you hear?
	Where does it begin to write dialogue that just stays with the audience forever?
	Well, you know, Sandy Koufax was the greatest pitcher ever lived, and I think he was the first guy to be recorded throwing over 100 miles an hour.
	And he sat down one day making kinesthetic diagrams, stick figures, of how to throw a ball that fast.
	That's all very great.
	He understood that.
	No one's going to learn how to throw a fastball from reading that diagram.
	then when you turn your rate waist and then the position of the arms and when to bring the forearm down and when to
	bring the stop that's all very great. He understood that no one's
	going to learn how to throw a fastball from reading that diagram right makes sense to Sandy Koufax doesn't make
	sense to anybody is not Sandy Koufax but it's.
	So it's the same thing here.
	I was born with the gift of laughter and the sense that the world was mad.
	You know that story?
	This guy called Raphael Sabatini wrote a thing called Scaramouche, and he wrote it, I think, in 1920.
	He was a huge, huge bestseller.
	It's an English guy.
	His name was Raphael Sabatini, about this great swordsman and great jokester.
	And somebody gave a building to Harvard, and they said, Oh, you get the building to Harvard.
	You get to put whatever you want over the door.
	So he put over the door, it might be Elliot House and Harvard Live, he was born with the gift of laughter and the sense that the world was mad.
	So that's one of my things.
	So I think I was too.
	I tried to get him to give away the crown jewels.
	I failed.
	Let's hand it over to Chris Coles.
	Let's play the clip, the iconic, the most legendary moment from the movie The Untouchables.
	They're in the church.
	It's Malone.
	It's Ness.
	What are you prepared to do?
	Everything within the law.
	And then what are you prepared to do?
	If you open the ball on these people, Mr. Ness, you must be prepared to go all the way.
	Because they won't give up the fight until one of you is dead.
	I want to get Capone.
	I don't know how to get him.
	You want to get Capone?
	Here's how you get him.
	He pulls a knife, you pull a gun.
	He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue.
	That's the Chicago way.
	And that's how you get Capone.
	If I could tell you the number of times I've said that with my good buddies, that's the Chicago way.
	Chris, questions for the mind behind this movie.
	You know, it was great to talk about dialogue because there is so much great dialogue in the picture.
	What's interesting to me is that you started as a playwright, writing for the theater.
	And in my experience, and you may disagree with this entirely, It's very difficult for playwrights, oftentimes, to then become a screenwriter, right?
	Because they think it's a very different discipline in many ways, right?
	Playwrights tend to write in a very stylized way.
	Screenplays, although they have to be a little bit stylized, tend to be a little bit more naturalistic.
	At least that's how the actor tends to, you know, read the lines out.
	And I'm curious, when you transitioned from writing stage plays to screenplays, were you sitting there and you were you thinking like, OK, I've got to figure out how to write this into a movie?
	Or were you already writing that way for the stage, and it just translated well into cinema?
	Because you're one of the few stage play writers that really, you were able to transition to film, and I don't think that's all that common.
	No, it's not because two completely different disciplines.
	It's like if you can make a ship and put it in a bottle, you have to know something about wood and you have to know something about string and you have to know something about construction.
	Those skills also come into play when you're building a house.
	But the basic skills of how does it work?
	What tools do I need?
	are the same.
	But after that, it's very different building a house and building a ship than a bottle.
	So the basic skills of writing a play and writing a movie come down to what does the audience perceive?
	It's all about the audience.
	And the way you learn that is to sit in a group with them and watch the audience.
	When you watch them go to sleep during your favorite scene, And you have to sit there in shame.
	You'll learn, oh Jesus Christ, because if they don't like it, you don't eat.
	So now we're in a situation where you have eons of length and Battalions of people writing garbage to be top loaded, because no one sits with the audience.
	And the idea is that you control the means of production.
	You don't have to plead the audience.
	You say, here's what it is, take it or leave it.
	The other thing is you don't need dialogue to write a movie.
	I'm going to prove it to you.
	Were you ever on an airplane and your television was turned off but you were looking at the screen of the person in front of you?
	Of course you were.
	You could follow that movie perfectly.
	You follow it perfectly.
	You don't need to hear it.
	Dialogue is great.
	If you can write it, that's fine.
	Yeah, I think one of my favorite scenes... Let's actually play the scene that we're playing as B-roll, you know, without the dialogue.
	We actually have it with the dialogue.
	I was literally going to mention that scene.
	It's a beautiful piece of writing.
	They want to have the bookkeeper explain the codes.
	How do they do it?
	This is how Sean Connery as Agent Malone does it.
	Hey.
	Come on, you.
	On your feet.
	I need you to help me to translate this book.
	I'm not going to ask you a second time.
	I'm going to count to three.
	What's the matter?
	Can't you talk with a gun in your mouth?
	One... Two... Three!
	I'm going to tell you whatever you want!
	I'm going to tell you whatever you want. What do you want to know?
	And don't let him clean himself till after he talks A little bit of comedy.
	Of course, the guy he shot is already dead.
	But the guy they're trying to squeeze the information out of doesn't know that.
	And then the Canadian mounted police officer says, I do not approve of your methods.
	And this time, Elliot gets it.
	And they both look back, Connery and Elliot, and say, you're not from Chicago.
	Now that's good writing, right, Chris?
	Oh my gosh, yeah.
	I mean, all I want to know is how a person comes up with that scene.
	Because, I mean, it's literally one of the best written scenes, I think, in movie history.
	It's one of those scenes that everyone remembers.
	In fact, if you remember nothing else from An Untouchables, you remember this moment, because it's such a profound scene.
	And, like, the ability to write a scene that everyone remembers I don't know.
	I don't know what that feels like.
	I don't know if people... I don't know if a great writer does that not really realizing it's going to be an iconic scene, or if they do know that it'll be an iconic scene.
	How do you come up with it?
	Do you know that it's a winner when you write it?
	I don't know.
	These are questions that I don't have answers for.
	All right, we're going to try and get Mr. Mamet back from his location in California, but in the meantime, let's just talk about some of the visuals.
	We've got the raid in Canada.
	We've got the baseball scene.
	Oh my gosh!
	So here we have, I didn't know this at the time, for me, it was just a stunningly beautiful moment
	or a scene and that's in the train station, actually filmed in this train station in Chicago,
	the shootout to capture the bookkeeper before he escapes, that's actually based, it's an homage
	to a Sergei Eisenstein's battleship Potemkin movie, the Russian film, the black and white film
	that has a scene on the steps of Odessa.
	There are these huge staircase steps up to the city of Odessa and this was the Palmer's homage.
	Chris, I timed this, this is a seven minute scene.
	And for at least five and a half minutes, all they do is they just ratchet up the tension.
	And then the ultimate release after this, bullets flying everywhere, innocent bystanders being killed.
	And then Giuseppe Petri, Joe Stone, catches the pram with the baby on his knee, holding the thug in his sights.
	And that moment of release, and Elliot Nestor says to him, Have you got him?
	I've got him.
	Take him.
	Boom!
	I mean, come on.
	Classic.
	Iconic.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's a perfect scene.
	You know what's... Okay, I want this to be a love fest because I love the film.
	We've got the great David Mamet here.
	But I have to be honest, the brutal truth, that's what I love.
	I love the ugly truth, not the beautiful lie.
	And for me, and people may disagree with this, there is only one flaw in this film.
	What?
	And it's not a flaw you would expect.
	Yeah, because it's one of the greatest people in the film industry, in the history of the industry.
	A genius.
	But I'm not super thrilled with the score.
	What?
	Met Ennio Morricone?
	Are you kidding me?
	What?
	I know, I know.
	I love the man.
	He's a genius.
	Explain.
	Too much saxophone, I think.
	It's just there was a weird jazzy, I think he was trying to make it sound Chicago-y.
	Yeah.
	But it just sounded like this.
	It kind of sounded dated, like We'll ask Mr. Mamet.
	Eric, I need to know your response to Chris Cole's saying that Ennio Morricone performed badly here.
	I could not disagree more.
	would have made this film so much better.
	But I'm curious if Mamet...
	We'll ask Mr. Mamet.
	Eric, I need to know your response to Chris Coles saying that
	Ennio Morricone performed badly here.
	I could not disagree more.
	Ennio Morricone is easily the second greatest film composer in history, only behind
	the great John Williams.
	I mean, so many other great movies, like The Thing, my favorite movie of all time.
	But the soundtrack here from that opening score and during the credits, you know, just with the piano keys over and
	over again I I love every bit of this soundtrack
	Never stop, never stop!
	Where, where, where?
	Break it!
	Never stop!
	Never stop fighting till the fight is done.
	What do you say?
	What do you say?
	I said, never stop fighting till the fight is done.
	What?
	You heard me, Sir Paul.
	It's over.
	He's finished.
	You're nothing but a lot of talk and a bit.
	Here endeth the lesson.
	Here endeth the lesson, and that's where the movie ends, echoing his lost mentor, James Malone.
	All right, last thoughts before we rate it.
	Cost a paltry $25 million, which today is just pathetic.
	Made $160 million.
	Very successful.
	And four nominations in the Academy.
	Sean Connery won Best Supporting Actor.
	There was going to be a remake.
	Just a few years ago with Antoine Fuqua, nothing came of that.
	Not a remake, sorry, a prequel that would discuss the rise of Capone.
	Before we bring back Mr. Mamet, I've got a couple of questions I know you have.
	We have to rate all of our movies that we review.
	Chris, you do it in terms of how a modern audience would like it.
	I do it in the galaxy of great movies.
	We always rate it out of ten.
	I think...
	What is the unit of measure this time?
	How about Police Call Box Keys?
	Is that good?
	I knew you were going to say that.
	I literally knew you were going to say that.
	I was going to say Tommy Guns.
	We can have Tommy Guns.
	We can have Call Box Keys with St.
	Jude.
	What is your rating out of 10 for the movie The Untouchables?
	Well, you know what?
	We got a mammoth here.
	What the hell else am I supposed to do?
	It's got to be.
	That's got to be 10 out of 10.
	Come on.
	It is one of the great films.
	I did love every single moment watching this, if I'm honest.
	Yeah, it's a beautiful film.
	I mean, I think that when the guy falls from the from the rooftop, there's a little bit of maybe like blue screen stuff that didn't look great.
	But other than that, it was an absolutely perfect film, and it's got to be 10 out of 10, doesn't it?
	I cannot, cannot gainsay that, even in the galaxy of all movies.
	Absolute 10 out of 10.
	10 Saint Jude Medallions out of 10.
	All right, Mr. Mamet, do we have you back?
	I seem to be here.
	Okay, we are glad that you are not an AI, you are not a meme.
	Last few questions.
	First, what kind of screenwriter are you?
	Because some screenwriters go on the set, they're part of the production.
	Are you the type that delivers the masterpiece and then hands it over to the director?
	What was the Untouchables like for you as the process of making?
	Well, you know, my...
	My deal has always been, don't make me two ways, right?
	Don't pay me anything and leave me the heck alone.
	Pay me a lot and I'll write you the best script that I can, and you're going to hate it.
	Because the script is written for the two things.
	It's written for the actors and for the audience.
	And nobody ever liked my movies in Hollywood except the actors and the audience.
	Producers hate it because they don't read like what they think a movie should read like.
	What movies read like here is when he comes into the room, You see in his eyes that he's a guy who's been around the block.
	And not just this block, but a lot of blocks.
	Oh, maybe a block like yours.
	He's the kind of guy who, when he tells you a joke, you laugh.
	You don't laugh out of politeness.
	But you can't take a picture of that.
	So since you can't take a picture of that, why is it a screenplay?
	The answer is it's not.
	It's a romance novel written for some idiots in the development process sitting in an office somewhere.
	All right, I promised I'd mention it.
	He's still writing.
	The latest, we have to have him back to discuss it at length, is Everywhere and Oink Oink.
	That's David Mamet's latest book, Everywhere and Oink Oink.
	An embittered, dyspeptic and accurate report of 40 years in Hollywood.
	I think you heard a little soup song of it there.
	Chris, last question for Mr. Mamet.
	Yeah, you know, I want to know what you think about The Untouchables because that's the film we're covering here.
	You are a great director, not just a great writer, but you didn't always direct all of your films.
	This is one of the films that was passed on to another director.
	And I'm curious if you, having watched this film, were happy with the final product.
	Wow.
	Battleship Potemkin, yeah.
	It's a great film, except that Brian De Palma interpolated the Odessa steps sequence
	from Battleship Potemkin.
	Is it Battleship Potemkin?
	Battleship, Battleship Potemkin, yeah.
	Potemkin.
	Okay, so I thought that that was kind of, I'm not gonna say it was a cheapy,
	cheesy piece of garbage on his part.
	Far beat that for me, but I didn't like it.
	But the other thing is, at the end of the film, which I really loved, was after he said,
	I think I'll have a drink, which is a pretty good tagline, then I wrote a crawl comes up
	over the screen, and it says, the repeal of the 18th Amendment and 1933 repeal of consigned
	prohibition to history. But the disrespectful law and the organized crime created by prohibition
	are with us to this day.
	I thought that's a great line to get out on.
	And what that does is it takes, I think I'll have a drink, which we think, Oh, that's good.
	But then you come back once again, and give the audience what I thought was a little bit of a treat.
	But the department didn't, didn't chose to.
	I don't know if you can read, that might be the problem.
	This isn't a form of a question, it's just a compliment, because I didn't realize this until many years later.
	One of our favorite TV shows was The Unit, which is of course about the guys across the fence at Bragg.
	Which you not only, you know, you produced it as well as, you know, wrote it.
	It is your baby.
	So I'd love to get you back to talk about Everywhere and Oink Oink and the unit as well.
	Would you be open to that, Mr. Mamet?
	Oh, I'd like nothing better.
	I had the time of my life working on the unit.
	Thank you.
	Good.
	All right, Chris, are we done?
	10 out of 10?
	10 out of 10?
	10 out of 10, 10 out of 10.
	We just got to pick next week's film.
	Oh, yes.
	I chose The Untouchables.
	So now it's your choice.
	What is next Friday's treat going to be?
	By the way, Mr. Mamet, I had Untouchables next on my list as well.
	Bizarrely.
	I literally did.
	It was the weirdest coincidence.
	So this is all just meant to be, I guess.
	But I'm going to pick a film.
	I don't know if you're going to love it, but I'm here in Indonesia and the climate is somewhat similar to this film.
	It's a sequel.
	I don't know if you like it that much.
	It's It's an interesting movie.
	I love it.
	It's one of my all-time favorites, and I think that we need to cover it at some point, so we're going to do it.
	And I just decided it's Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
	Oh, fun.
	The dark sequel to Raiders.
	It shall be done.
	It shall be done.
	Mr. Mamet, God bless you.
	Thank you very much.
	The book is of course everywhere and oink, oink, get it right now.
	We've been making movies great again with my co-host Chris Coles.
	Follow him on the Mr. Reagan channel on YouTube as well as The Alpha Critic.
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