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So, I'm going to be doing a little bit of a commentary on the game.
That's right, today is Valentine's Day, and if you forgot, don't worry, there's a good chance President Biden did too.
Jokes from mainstream media?
About the Democrat incumbent?
How is that possible?
Welcome, I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First.
That was Jimmy Fallon last night.
Hopefully you didn't forget about Valentine's Day.
I'm sure Joe Biden did.
It's fascinating.
We're preparing for the show and we're watching a very unhappy Fannie Willis.
In the dock, in the chair, cross-examination, she's not doing it.
She's being interrogated by prosecutors in Georgia.
Why?
Because, you know, she had an affair with a guy and then peddled $700,000 worth of taxpayer money to her chief Trump prosecutor, who had no background in felony prosecutions, and they went on holidays together.
He was still married.
Misappropriation of funds much?
She doesn't look very comfortable.
Is there going to be some kind of justice in America?
We'll keep you posted.
In addition to the Super Bowl parade event yesterday, over 20 people shot.
One very popular female radio host, I think a mother of two, killed.
By it turns out what?
Was it MAGA-hatted white supremacists?
No.
Gang members.
Latest reporting seems to confirm that it was local gang members getting into a disagreement that went awry.
One of the bystanders engaged, neutralized one of them who was holding a rifle.
God bless him.
We'll hear the amazing clip from him later in the show today.
We have an amazing show for you.
We're going to have Lee Smith.
We're going to have Congressman Mike Waltz, who says, as a former Green Beret, President Trump is right about NATO.
But this first hour, I'm going to do something a little bit different.
No guests for this hour, except maybe you.
You can call in if you have questions.
Because what I think we have to call Obamagate, it's not going away.
With our interview yesterday with Matt Taibbi, with what he published, with Michael Schellenberger, with Alex Gutentag, building upon everything that's been published before in the last seven years, from the likes of Mark Levin, Dan Bongino, John Solomon, Lee Smith, who am I forgetting here?
Oh, Miranda Devine, and others, God bless you all.
It's hard to follow.
The depth and the breadth of corruption and the use of our intelligence services to basically rip away from you the choice of who you can choose as your president and then to subvert him once you chose him.
I started making a little list, trying to diagram it out.
For those of you who are watching, this is just the first five minutes, okay?
It's really complicated.
But we need to understand what was done by the Obama administration.
By Biden, by Brennan, by Comey, by Clapper.
Because they're going to do it again.
They're trying to do it again.
So the names, I think I'm going to have to write this all down in an article, but the names that you must be familiar with Of the people who persecuted the good guys.
Now who are the good guys?
Who are the targets?
President Trump.
Michael Flynn.
Carter Page.
Paul Manafort.
George Papadopoulos.
And then others who wanted to find out the truth and were also targeted.
Like Devin Nunes.
Like our friend Kash Patel.
But what was the scheme?
How does it all begin?
It seems it begins much earlier than we thought.
There was a Russian agent, an intelligence officer, working at a DC think tank.
He was known by the Feds to be an asset of the SVR, of the new version of the KGB.
And he's sitting in Washington, D.C., and he's the source.
His name is Danchenko.
He's the source of accusations, fallacious, fabricated accusations, against the businessman Donald Trump.
These accusations that are cut from whole cloth, that will be proven to be utterly unfounded, I mean, when you say that President Trump's attorney, Michael Cohen, is in Prague, when he's not, he's in America, you know the depth of the lies.
I mean, just literally cut from whole cloth.
Doesn't matter.
There's a former MI6 spy called Christopher Steele, an individual who has admitted under oath in a British court that he despises Donald Trump.
He hates him.
And he was hired by the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign and the DNC To compile what has become known as the Steele dossier.
My friend Dan Bongina calls it the pee-pee hoax dossier because of the absurd outre and perverse accusations in the dossier which likewise were completely made up about President Trump cavorting in hotels in Moscow.
Never happened.
But he's paid a cool twelve million dollars for a smear dossier.
A smear dossier that will be pumped around Washington DC by a company called Fusion GPS, run by, what shall we call him, a political operative, Glenn Simpson.
And this smear dossier is funneled to everyone they can push it to.
Most of the mainstream media don't even touch it.
One gutter website will eventually.
And a senator will, as well, pedal it.
The late John McCain.
Someone who, like Christopher Steele, hated Donald Trump.
Now, if it ended there, OK, we'd say, you know, politics is dirty business and smear campaigns are pretty par for the course.
This one, a little bit more rank.
Why?
Because it's not just some smear campaign made up by a strategist, a Democrat operative in the swamp.
It's actually done in collusion with the Russians.
Remember that word, collusion, that we've heard for so long?
Yeah, an SVR, former KGB agent, who's now working for the new version of the KGB, sitting in Washington DC, is the source of the disinformation used to smear candidate Mr. Trump.
Danchenko wasn't some political operative working for the DNC.
He was on the payroll of the Kremlin.
And that man was colluding with the DNC, with Hillary, with American companies like Fusion GPS?
American Senators?
Like John McCain?
That's where the story begins.
The Steele dossier.
But there are antecedents to its creation.
And then there is the next part of the puzzle.
It's called Operation Crossfire Hurricane.
And there's never been anything like it since America became a republic.
Three intelligence services working against a presidential candidate, and then a president-elect, and then a president.
We've only just begun.
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Yeah, your morning answer parents.
Um, that's someone else pulling the whole knocks He said that you said you can't be pro-russia and MAGA at the same time And he's like well my mom and other people my family are pro-russia and are also pro-trump So we're basically like or do you get off saying that like that was his that was his response good Why did he drop off as a loser?
I don't know.
He held on for the longest time.
I thought he was gonna stick around Well, and that's and he used to be a regular caller.
I think what's his name Glenn from Phoenix?
Okay.
Yeah I know he hasn't called in a while.
Speaking of regular callers mm-hmm Title for the monologue
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Ah, full board, just like that, alright.
Oh my gosh, wow.
Okay.
Okay.
I can't remember if it was $14, $15, $100.
I can't remember what it was.
I don't understand what you're saying, but like I said, I have a question.
Whatever y'all said it was, that's what I'm asking.
I'm in Greece, and we did not engineer the coup in Turkey against Erdogan.
Had we done so, I'm told, there would have been some casualties.
You know, you would like to think that we did, and I think we did.
But this mutual interference is on everyone.
So you're saying Hungary?
Hungary, sure. I mean, but...
What?
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The call board is full, but one caller dropped off.
Glenn.
Where's Glenn from, Eric?
Because he's called before.
Phoenix.
He wanted to argue with me about something I said on my friend's show on the morning answer.
Glenn, call back.
I want to talk to you.
The point you made, I've got to tease you out.
I said you can't be pro-Russia.
You can't be Russia first and America first at the same time.
And you wanted to argue with me.
Yeah, don't drop off.
I want to talk to you.
Give us a call.
There's one line open.
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required. All right, let's go to Vincent in Atlanta. Hey, Dr. Gorka, thank you for not
forgetting about this. And in the bigger sense of the word, this has been going on since before
Trump was president.
There's been different degrees of the same word.
The fake Russia investigation, the fake impeachment, open borders.
There's all different degrees of the same thing, and that is treason.
That is what these people have been committing, and it will not stop until these people face justice, until you have the Yeah, they might.
They might.
I'm not so sure about that.
But look, Dan Bongino's made this point.
It's not really about Joe Biden.
before some judge like Trump and on that day the Democrats will come to the table
and say hey guys let's let's come together and stop this.
Yeah they might, they might. I'm not so sure about that but look Dan Bongino's
made this point it's not really about Joe Biden of course he's feckless
corrupt, venal, his son is as immoral as he is.
But this starts with Obama.
It was Obama in 2016 who authorized Operation Crossfire Hurricane.
It was Obama who had been told, this is now declassified, Vincent, by his own director
of the FBI, Jim Comey, by his own CIA director, John Brennan, that the Smear dossier came
from Hillary and he wasn't to believe it, that it wasn't real.
Nevertheless, he authorized the NSA, the CIA, and the FBI to target President Trump.
I'm going to continue to unpack it, how they used the Steele dossier, and most important
of all, concerning the recent revelations, how they leveraged and exploited our foreign
intelligence liaison services, meaning MI6, meaning the spy agencies of Australia, of
Italy, to do what?
Target US nationals abroad because they had no evidence and it would have been illegal for the FBI or the CIA to do it.
So they used foreign spy agencies.
Thank you for being so kind.
Yes, we have to keep talking about this because this is the biggest scandal in our lifetimes when it comes to American politics.
Let's go to William Westchester, line three.
Afternoon, Dr. G. First foreign expression I ever learned was, I'm 10 years old, 1956, Ruskik Hazza.
Did I pronounce it right?
Yes, you did.
Ruskik Hazza, the Hungarian for Russians go home, which was the battle cry of the revolutionaries, the freedom fighters in Hungary trying to kick out the Soviets, the people who liberated my father from a prison cell in a communist regime.
That made for some interesting conversation 15 years later when General Birla Kirayi, I hope I pronounced his name correctly, was my instructor of military history in graduate school in New York.
I had the honor of meeting General Kirayi a few times.
He was quite a man, William, quite a man.
Well, my question is, do you think, based on the recent decision in New York for slander against President Trump, on the same legal basis, He has grounds on which to sue all of the intelligence people and everybody who has been publicly identifying him as a threat to democracy.
Can he sue their butts off?
Well, look, there's a big problem with that.
Number one, you'd have to have a court that was fair and a jury pool that was fair.
In New York, you've got, you know, the majority of that pool refused to admit during the jury screening what news agencies and what magazines and newspapers and websites they read.
So you knew they were all Democrats.
On top of that, we have the Sullivan vs. New York Times decision from the Supreme Court in 1972, William.
Which is the real stumbling block.
That piece of garbage law states that a public figure to win a libel action or defamation action has to prove not only that the facts stated about him by another person, by a newspaper, by a journalist are false, But the person publishing them or saying them at the time, William, knew they were false.
So you have to have some kind of magic wand, some kind of Vulcan mind meld that provides evidence that the person saying the things at the time knew them to be false.
That is the standard for public figures.
Of course, E.G.
Carroll wasn't a public figure like President Trump.
And on top of that, sorry, third factor, William, there is such an incredible level of executive
immunity for those who work for federal government.
That has to be reexamined by federal law, by the Supreme Court as well.
So William, no, I don't think the victory is going to come from court cases fought in
Democrat strongholds.
We just need to get President Trump back in the White House.
It's that simple.
Then the good guys, the Devin Nuneses, the Kash Patels of the world, can sweep the corruption out of our agency.
So it's up to us to first get him re-elected.
Okay, don't go anywhere.
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Microsoft.
Yes.
Who do you say?
What was his name?
Glenn, right?
He didn't call back.
Glenn, he has not called back yet.
Glenn!
Where are you?
Give me four.
Yeah.
Hi, who's this?
Mic's hot.
Hello, who's this?
What's up?
I'm Chris.
Sorry, I can't hear you.
I'm Chris.
Okay, Chris, what's your comment?
What's your question?
I have a question.
So, um, conservatives are based on religion, right?
They're all... So, if we're... I really can't hear you.
well. So if we're talking from Adam and Eve or a frog... I really can't hear you. Are you on a
very old phone or are you moving in a vehicle? So if you're talking from Adam and Eve... Hang on, hang on.
You're not clear.
Are you speaking on an old phone or are you in a car that's moving?
It's very hard to hear you.
Hello?
Can you hear me?
Are you able to hear me?
Yes, I can hear you.
Okay, well your phone is very bad, or you're in an area with bad cell service.
Can you try saying your question one more time?
Yes, my thing's about illegal immigration.
You hear that?
Yeah, illegal immigration.
What about it?
Okay, so servers are based on religion.
If we're all came from Adam and Eve and are brought as children, why would they be concerned with Are you stupid?
There are 8 billion people in the world.
You think all 8 billion should come to America if they want to?
Hang on, hang on.
You seriously think America could feed and house 8 billion people?
Hey, if you don't believe in the power of prayer or right, you can put this, uh, link on- God, you are a stupid son of a bitch.
Goodbye.
Ooh, yeah.
I- I could barely understand him talking about religion.
I thought he was talking about the left.
Like, why does the left care about- No, he's saying if you're- if you're a Christian, you gotta, uh, let people into the country.
Secular Christianity, folks.
God, how dumb are people?
How dumb are people?
I liked it better when I couldn't understand him.
Let me do it with the other collar.
Do you know what? You know what the shocking thing is?
Thank you.
That person gets to vote.
He's back.
Give him.
Give me four.
I'm not putting you on the air.
You're a cretin.
You're a moron.
You know that, right?
Hey, dude, go put your dentures in.
We cannot understand what you're saying.
Go and put your dentures in, you stupid, stupid sack of crap.
Go away.
Go away, stupid man.
Stupid man.
Bye-bye Thank you.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
That was something else.
That was something else.
A caller who says, uh, aren't conservatives about God and stuff?
And if, if Adam and Eve and then, uh, why are there illegals?
Why isn't everyone, uh, a human you respect?
Because there are 8 million people in the world.
We can't house them all in America.
If that guy rings back, Eric, ask him a simple question.
Does he lock his doors at night or can I come and live in his home and can I bring a few hundred other people with me?
You know the scary thing is these people, they get a vote as well.
They get a vote and it's worth as much as yours.
Frightening.
Oh my gosh.
It was entertaining, though, especially for those on Rumble who get to watch us have fun with the cretins in the breaks.
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Hey Eric, ask that moron who rang back if he locks his door at night, okay?
Or whether me and 200 of my friends can come live with him and eat from his fridge, okay?
And then tell him to just go somewhere else.
Alright, let's go to...
Nancy, line 5.
Hi, Dr. G. Hey.
I have a follow-up question based on Matt Taibbi's reporting.
Uh-huh.
I saw a picture of the CIA director, William Burns, meeting in Cairo with Egyptians and Qataris.
Right.
And then I saw a story about Christopher Wray from the head of the FBI is going, or has gone already now, to the Middle East.
Why are the heads of these agencies going to the Middle East?
Because, well, the public story, or the one that's being touted, is because Blinken has utterly failed.
So our Chief Diplomat, also the National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan, have been trying to negotiate peace, and they've utterly failed.
So I guess this is, you know, the second, third tier of the bench that are trying to somehow get these people to stop killing each other.
That's what they're saying.
What's really happening?
I don't know because I wouldn't trust them as far as I can spit them.
Judy Brooklyn.
Hi.
Hey.
Listen, listen.
Who supervises these FISA judges?
Nobody supervises them.
It's a secret court with their identity being a secret as well.
Well, that is really, really dangerous, and Dr. G., we should not let these FISA judges get away with what they did, because as far as I'm concerned, they didn't do their, I don't know, proper due diligence or whatever on purpose, and I think they are very corrupt, and those FISA judges and whatever, who gave permission to spy on all these people that were Trump supporters, including Trump, There's something wrong there, and there should be supervision.
They're part of it.
The FISA judges are part of it.
This is utterly un-American.
The FISA court was designed to get warrants to spy on terrorists, on foreign spies.
That's why it's called the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act Court, the FISC.
And as a result, using it to spy against Americans when you don't even have a representative.
You don't have your attorney there.
You don't know that you're being investigated in a quote-unquote court.
How can it be a court when the identity of the judge is a secret?
That's like a star chamber.
Secret courts with hidden identities for the judges.
So just stay tuned, Judy, because right now, and some people are saying that's why all of this news is swirling around the swamp right now, the debate is up for the extension of the FISA court authorization.
There are some good people on Capitol Hill, Judy, who do not want this to be extended because it is utterly American.
We have the right To see our accuser, to challenge our accuser in court.
We have the right to know who the prosecutor is, who the jury is.
This is all done in secret and it's absolutely wrong.
Don't go anywhere.
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The guy, because he was all like, oh, Christianity, God says you can do this, blah blah blah.
And I'm like, so do you really think we should take 8 billion people?
And he said, oh, I don't know, I don't believe in the Bible.
I don't believe in God or any of that shit.
I'm like, wait a minute!
So hold on, you're pulling the whole, like, oh, like, God says you should do this, but I don't believe in it.
Like, and then he just kind of started going on weird, like, tangents about like, oh, y'all, y'all cite the Bible, but y'all don't know what the Bible really means.
I'm like, well, I'm pretty sure the Hebrews and the Israelites were commanded by God to wipe out their enemies like the Philistines, right?
And he's like, I don't know, I mean, I read the Bible and it turned me into an atheist!
Did you ask him about letting me and a few hundred of my mates live in his house?
I didn't get to that part.
I just wanted to I I feel like I struck the real gold by asking what I asked cuz again
I presume he was unironically Christian, but oh Yeah, let me fill this last one
I I
I That last call I didn't want to go on the airship
She claims, apparently, MyPillow ads are airing on Fox again.
Oh, good!
So she said she's noticed over the last few weeks they're airing during primetime, so there may have been some resolution there.
I don't know if Mike or anyone has said anything about it, but yeah.
Does anybody have cable?
Do you guys have cable at home?
Who has cable?
I do not.
Alex?
John?
Nope.
Nobody.
Nobody?
Are you... God!
You pretend to be so young, don't you?
I don't have cable.
Alright, I'll ask Jeff.
I have my video games and Netflix.
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They've been playing, how long has this been, it's been about an hour now, right, Eric, that Fanny Willis has been sitting in the dock in the court.
How long has Fox been playing this now?
I think for about an hour, yeah, and then at least an hour before that of her ex-boyfriend.
Oh yeah, yeah, right, right, before we started the show.
This is what they're playing non-stop.
I look, it's kind of, Interesting to watch and she's dripping in contempt and she just said she said I am not on trial here!
Well I think you are my dear because you're in a court of law and you're the one that's being investigated for improprieties and mismanagement of the funds of the court of the prosecution service that you are the head of so If there's any breaking news, we will keep you apprised of it.
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That's me, Dr. G, Dr. Seabass, whatever you prefer.
Well, I called you, I've talked to you twice.
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What's your comment?
Hey, I just wanna... I want to know what you think about this new scare the government's putting out about the Russian nuclear space missiles.
I mean, I'm not saying it exactly right, but...
I mean, I think this is another, let's scare the American people into giving more money to Ukraine, you know?
It's either that, so it's incredible, for those who aren't familiar and haven't followed the swamp developments in the last, what is it, 30 hours, 24 hours?
Dan's talking about this behind-closed-door briefing from the Biden administration about the latest threat, national security emergency, red lights, sirens, because the Russians are putting nukes in space.
Which, after two years of war in Ukraine, with a military that has, let's just put it mildly, performed less well than expected, I don't buy it for a millisecond.
Either this is disinformation by the Kremlin, or it's the Biden administration trying to distract us from Obamagate, or try and get more money out of the taxpayer, not for Americans, and not for sealing the border.
So, Dan, I don't buy it for a millisecond.
Second, do you?
No, no, not at all, not at all.
It's another, you know, I hate to use the word false flag, you know, because it's not.
It's a distraction.
It's called game crack.
It's just a distraction.
I tend to concur with you.
Thank you, Dan.
Let's, oh, must be Thursday.
Antoinette.
Greetings.
Greetings, Dr. G. In fact, I am so glad with Matt Taibbi that you brought this subject
up again today.
I know it's Thursday, but I got to go in that tangent between Margo Cleveland with the Federalist,
her article, and Matt Taibbi.
We're going to have Lee Smith on next, Dan Bongino, John Solomon, all the good guys.
All of them.
Stephen, I mean, everybody.
Listen, if you are an American, and oh, that's the other thing, Dr. G, I photographed that list of those stupid senators that voted to go with the so-called monies for this and that and not do a damn thing for aborters.
But here's the deal.
This is scarier.
We thought Watergate was bad.
This is nothing, nothing compared to what's going on now.
We had a bundled burglary that wasn't in fact connected to the president.
Just listen and read Lord Black's book about it.
And compared to Obama using the CIA, the FBI, and the NSA against a political rival, it's incomparable Antoinette.
Unbelievable!
So here's the deal, Dr. G. Years ago, my second husband, God rest his soul, he died suddenly at 37 years old.
Swiss-German.
I had a Swiss passport.
And my husband, we tried to get some of his family out of Eastern Germany.
And all of what's going on right now, people need to wake up.
It's like Stasi, the German secret police, the Russian secret police, all what's going on now and what the difference is.
You know, they would record and have family members spying on people.
Well, now we've got Facebook.
We have the Instagram, all that stuff.
And for this president also using TikTok, which that's the CCP, the Chinese, and all the illegals.
People, we need to pray for our country.
We need to vote Republican.
And those stupid senators that you made that list, I sent it out to everybody.
We're doing a tree phone call and to friends throughout the United States because what Matt Taibbi and Margo Cleveland, what they've unfolded, people wake up.
We need to pray to our Lord.
Give us that strength because we're going to fight and we are never going to give up.
And thank you.
Thank you, Dr. G, for that.
I was just glued with what everything that Matt was I have one correction for you and if you did miss it, we had him on for an hour, which God bless him, he's not a man of the right, he's a man of the left, but he believes in truth.
Our interview with Matt Taibbi on the latest Obamagate revelations, it's on the podcast, yesterday's podcast, you can see the video on my Twitter feed as well.
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They're not stupid, Senators.
They're un-American.
When 22 so-called Republicans vote to give another $93 billion to every country except America, that is inexcusable.
They know what they're doing.
They're not stupid.
They're un-American.
That's why they should all be primaried into the dust.
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The right name for it is Obama.
It's it's more than no, it's more than Biden.
The real name is Obamagate.
More than Biden.
The real name is Obamagate.
Alright.
Just seeing that he was watching the hearing and didn't think that Mr. Ray was doing a
good job and thought that she needed to go and take care of business herself.
I think she was pretty angry at first, but she's calmed down since then.
But, you know, on the cash discussion, the thing that I think had passed is if you are
paying each other back to avoid the appearance of impropriety, should that become an issue?
Tell me we've cut one.
If you do it with cash, it's not a problem.
I think it's a good thing.
Come in with cut one.
Yep.
But then she said that she takes that cash with her wherever she travels.
She takes all of her cash.
It's just, these are just some kind of surprising things that have come out during the past nine.
Yeah.
Just to be clear, so she's back on this day now.
Correct.
Um, this is a live shot that you're watching as we wait for them to get started here again.
Ma'am, you know, what do you expect in terms of what's going on here?
And, and, you know, what they will do next?
Yeah, well, honestly, the judge has a big role in it.
I want to see all the evidence that the people that made the motion submitted.
It doesn't disqualify them from doing it.
It's the way they're being heard.
Thank you.
I heard somebody yelling to stop this guy, tackle him, and he was coming in the opposite direction.
So I just, you don't think about it.
It's just a reaction.
He got close to me.
I got the right angle on him and I hit him from behind.
And when I hit him from behind, I either jarred the gun out of his hand or out of his sleeve, because as I'm taking him down to the ground, I see the gun on the ground.
So I take him down, and I put all my body weight on him, and then another good Samaritan comes over and is helping me, because I kind of got him high, and the other guy gets him around his waist, and we're just putting our weight on him, and he's just fighting to get up, but we're fighting to keep him down.
Paul Contreras, a man who saved maybe dozens scores of lives yesterday at the Super Bowl celebration parade in Kansas City, when he tackled one of the three gunmen who had an AR-15, tackled him to the ground, body checked him and then kept him there until the police could neutralize him.
Turns out, was it a MAGA hat?
Was it a conservative?
Was it a white supremacist?
No, gang members.
Gang members.
And it's not just there.
It's here in the nation's capital.
Here we have the president of the DC chair, the council, I guess it's a kind of body that represents our brave law enforcement officers, being interviewed by Fox with a very simple message.
And this is from the nation's capital.
Over a thousand carjackings in the last 14 months.
Here's his message.
If you had one message to send to those elected officials that are in power, what would you tell them?
Stop listening to activists.
Stop listening to people who tell you to defund the police.
Start listening to citizens, victims, and police officers and figure out what we need to do our job.
Sounds like common sense, right?
Well, the left really doesn't care about you.
Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Chicago, has done what?
He's cancelling, he's taking down the technology that helps identify who's shooting when there is a mass shooting in his city.
Unbelievable local news report.
Cut to.
The campaign promise fulfilled.
Mayor Brandon Johnson is ending the city's use of the controversial gunfire surveillance system known as ShotSpotter.
The city's contract with the company behind ShotSpotter expires on Friday and the police will stop using the technology September 22nd, about a month after the Democratic National Convention.
A city statement said, moving forward, Chicago will deploy its resources on the most effective strategies and tactics proven to accelerate the current downward trend in violent crime.
Eric, why would you cancel a system that identifies shooters in Chicago and cancel it only after the DNC convention?
Mmm, I cannot imagine why.
I mean, many words come to mind, you know, corruption, political favors, A total coincidence, though, because obviously, you know, the Dems love to live by their own policies.
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No, I'm good.
No, no, no, no.
No, this is the truth, Judge.
Thank you.
No, no, no, no.
This is the truth, Judge.
It is a lie.
It is a lie.
Mr. Saino, thank you.
If you may, Mark.
Ms. Willis.
Mr. Stainoff, thank you.
We're going to take five minutes.
Thank you, Bob.
Right here.
Thank you, Bob.
No, no, no, no.
This is the truth, Judge.
And it is a lie.
It is a lie.
Ms.
Williams?
Mr. Saino, thank you.
Thank you.
We're going to take five minutes.
Thank you.
America First.
Mega-nificent.
She's still on the stand.
They're making her sweat.
Looks like we found a decent judge in America.
Fannie Willis got a little bit excited moments ago.
Here's a little clip.
I think you lied right here.
No, no, no, no.
This is the truth, judge.
It is a lie.
It is a lie.
Ms.
Willis, let's just say now thank you.
We're going to take five minutes.
It's a lie?
You mean like everything you're doing to try and get President Trump imprisoned?
Yeah, we know that's a lie.
We'll keep watching the coverage.
It's happening right now.
Fulton County, Georgia District Attorney Fannie Willis is on the hot seat for, let's just say, charitably shenanigans.
Let's get back to the business of protecting America with a man who, the first time I campaigned for him, Proudly.
But when I heard he's the first Green Beret in Congress, I thought, that can't be possible.
Aren't there more snake eaters?
Proudly representing Florida, he is the author of Warrior Diplomat, Colonel Congressman Mike Waltz.
Welcome back to America First.
Yeah, hey Seth.
Good to be with you.
Apparently there's been five or six seals and I just tell them Takes five of them to equal one of us, you know, and call it a day.
All right, no comment, no comment.
I have very close ties to, you know, the JFK school at Bragg and to the guys at Coronado and Damnex, so I will remain above this for the time being.
We have so much to discuss with regards to the Russian nukes in space scare.
But first, You're like this voice in the wilderness.
I mean, you and me, you're in Congress, I'm in media, saying, you know what the president said in South Carolina?
That's how you make NATO strong.
So hair on fire, because President Trump said this.
One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, well, sir, if we don't pay and we're attacked by Russia, will you protect us?
I said, you didn't pay?
You're delinquent?
He said, yes, let's say that happened.
No, I would not protect you.
In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want.
You got to pay.
You got to pay your bills.
When we came into the White House, more than 60% of NATO was being backed up by our money because they didn't pay up.
After President Trump was president, that shrank to less than a third.
What's wrong with what the president said, Congressman?
Hey, look, you know what he's fighting for?
He's fighting for the American taxpayer to stop subsidizing European security.
NATO was incredibly successful during the Cold War.
Very successful alliance.
But here's the deal.
Only seven of the 31 members actually contribute the minimum that they committed to back in 2014, a decade ago.
which is 2% of their defense budget.
And the big economies like Germany, like France, like Italy are way below that.
The ones that do contribute are, I don't know, the ones on the front line like Lithuania, Latvia,
the Baltics, Poland's contributing now 4%.
So just like Seth, and I know you are close to this, we had in Afghanistan with NATO in Afghanistan,
you got your fighting allies, what Rumsfeld called New Europe,
the ones who actually get it and contribute to their national defense.
And then you have your not so much allies like Germany and Spain and France.
And I'm tired of them freeloading.
This is a good deal for European politicians, They can unload all they want into their social programs because they know Uncle Sugar, Uncle Sam, is going to be there to carry their weight.
And here's the final thing I'll leave you with.
This year will be the first year in American history the interest on our debt is exceeding our entire defense budget.
Just the interest.
So aside from the rightness and wrongness of it, we literally can't afford it anymore.
And you know who's smiling right now?
Xi Jinping over in China as he triples his nuclear arsenal, has a navy that's bigger than ours, is threatening the entire Pacific and openly talking about replacing us.
as he steals our technology.
So enough is enough.
And thank God President Trump's gonna put his foot down.
And by the way, the four years you guys were there was the only time that they actually,
it was still not enough, but it actually started to increase
because he knows how to cut a deal.
Yeah, more than $10 billion worth of increase in commitments from our allies
because of that out of the deal attitude from the former commanding chief
who we need back in the White House.
It's up to us, God willing.
Congressman Walz, we had callers today.
It's all over the Internet, social media.
This, you know, five Fire alarm with regards to nukes in space.
Are we going to have to, you know, hide in the basement with our tins of baked beans?
Can you tell us what we need to know?
I want to be clear.
Nobody needs to grab their MREs, you know, their AR and go dive in the bunk.
However, this is a very serious threat.
And the reason, this is part the mainstream media is ignoring, The chairman did it that way is because he had sent multiple classified letters to the White House and got radio silence, ringing the alarm bells, radio silence.
And guess what?
Now Jake Sullivan is over.
I don't want a briefing.
I want to know what the hell they're going to do about it.
Right.
And this is what folks need to understand.
It is a grave threat.
It's not necessarily a tomorrow this weekend threat.
Don't cancel your plans.
To the Daytona 500, the Super Bowl of NASCAR that I hope you're going to.
But it is, look, if we get wiped out in space, our entire economy goes dark.
Agriculture, TPS, financial transactions.
I don't want to be flip, but as my colleague here, Eric, said, isn't it good that somebody created something called Space Force?
You're not being flip.
I was going to get to that.
Everybody made their jokes.
Once again, Trump was right.
He was absolutely right.
The Chinese, just by comparison, launched more in 2018 than us and the rest of the world combined.
They are on track to put a manned station on the moon by the end of this decade, and everything they do in space is backed by their military.
So they're putting a brand new space station up that will back beat with their military in it.
Ours is 30 years old.
It's serious.
We didn't take it seriously.
We don't see how economically dependent we are of what's up in space.
But, you know, once again, thank God for President Trump's leadership and let's get him back into office.
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The book is Warrior Diplomat, the first Green Beret in Congress.
We have reports from the deposition with Tony Bobulinski from Chairman Comer.
It seems, Congressman, that the Democrats are afraid of Hunter Biden's former business partner.
Why would that be?
Well, I sit on oversight.
I was there when Hunter pulled his little stunt, which he's completely backtracked now, and he's coming for a deposition.
Because you know what?
You're going to prosecute people like Steve Bannon, then you got to prosecute Hunter.
So he's completely backtracked, and when it comes to his business partner, look, he's got the keys to the kingdom.
He knows and testified That Joe Biden was the big guy.
He was getting a cut of the deal.
That he met with every single one of Hunter's clients.
So he's lying.
Number one, he's repeatedly lied to the American people.
And I think this is where the actual crimes come in.
Commingled accounts.
You cannot, as an elected official, have foreign entities pay your relatives and then your
relatives pay your bills.
That's laundering the money, number one. Number two, they didn't pay taxes on it because they
called it loans. Classic money laundering technique. Number three, it's a violation of FARA.
Clearly he had family members acting as foreign agents in which he was complicit.
And then this is the piece that nobody else is, that I don't think anybody's paying enough
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You have the National Archives send us a letter that said the White House told them not to release the emails from Joe Biden's fake accounts, where he was emailing around to.
So that, to me, on top of what's happened with IRS whistleblowers, is obstruction of justice.
There are multiple crimes at hand here.
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We're going to lay it all out.
And, you know, I think eventually you're going to see a move to impeach.
Fabulous, fabulous.
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Oh, we need his books.
Both of his books.
Both of them?
Yeah.
What's the other one?
Plot Against the President, Permanent Coup.
Oh, Lee!
Oh, I thought you meant both.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, no, I have both of them.
Let me go ahead and dial them up now.
One...
We did...
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alright, mic's on.
Dialing.
Fanny Willis.
Is that her body language?
She keeps putting her, like, finger on her face.
So arrogant.
Oh, yeah.
Well, arrogant and distressed.
Yeah, no, she's not happy.
Well, he just played dumb.
Bullets Wade was pretty cool under pressure by comparison.
Well. He just played dumb. He played yeah, I played dumb still ringing
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Why?
What are they afraid of?
It's Hunter Biden's, you know, former buddy, his business partner.
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Now there's too much information swirling and a lot of disinformation and even more denial about what I...
I can't label better than Obamagate, the Russia collusion hoax and other names it has been labeled, the Steele dossier, the dodgy dossier, who better to answer those questions for us than a man who Isn't a Johnny come lately isn't somebody who just got involved with the issue but has written two books about it already one of them is the plot against the president it was turned into an incredible documentary an incredibly successful documentary even
Even the likes of Amazon had to host it by, of course, our friend Amanda Milius.
And he also documented it in his book, The Permanent Coup.
He didn't arrive at this topic yesterday.
He was there at the creation, revealing the truth.
So let's find out what we need to know about Obamagate with our good friend, investigative journalist extraordinaire Lee Smith.
Lee Smith, welcome back to America First.
Hey, Seb, thank you for having me back.
How are you doing?
I'm okay.
I decided to try.
I had no guests in the first hour.
I took callers and I said I'm going to try and do a public service and try and just do a kind of 101 on Obamagate and you'll tell me in a second if that's the wrong label for it and I just made some notes to open the show and it's like this Squirrels, you know, crazy squirrels in a bird nest, you know, like all the names from Steele to Orr to Page to Brennan to Gina Haspel to Robert Mueller.
And it's like, it's so convoluted.
Then we have a new, not a data dump in the last few days, but a kind of rediscovery of a story that you and the likes of Bongino and Solomon have been excavating for years.
So I want us Together, in this second hour that we have, to remind everybody of the shape of the scandal and what really matters and what questions still have to be answered.
Let's start with this.
The book is The Plot Against the President, or The Permanent Coup.
What is the best shorthand for this?
I call it Obamagate because I believe, as Dan does, this isn't about Biden, this is about Obama who authorized Crossfire Hurricane.
Is there a better description than Obamagate, Lee?
No, I think that's a very good one.
And one of the things that that does, I mean, rather than Something that Russiagate and Spygate don't do, which is that this leaves it at the feet of Barack Obama.
And of course, that's where it is, because as you know, there were his intelligence chiefs, James Comey, number one, Andrew McCabe, the deputy FBI director, and then, of course, John Brennan's involvement at the CIA.
So these were all Obama's guys.
James Clapper, of course.
They were the ones who were running the show, even though it was a Clinton campaign dirty trick.
And that was definitely Barack Obama.
Hillary Clinton had no control over it at that time.
GPS, the Washington, D.C., OPPO research firm.
But you're right.
And then, of course, after the campaign, after the election and Donald Trump won, it continued
and moved into its next leg.
And that was definitely Barack Obama.
Hillary Clinton had no control over it at that time.
It was Obama who called for the intelligence community assessment.
It was Obama who set up a whole bunch of different things.
And again, Obama's spy chiefs.
So I think calling it Obamagate is, I think Obamagate is a very good way to describe it,
aside from it may therefore get confused with a whole bunch.
you to other Obama scandals that were told not to pay attention
to while Barack Obama was president of the United States. Remember he was the cleanest
for the cleanest scandal free administration. The scandal free from lowest learner to
Obama. And the aspect that has been revivified and reheated that we knew already but have we
paid enough attention to what the focus has been on in the last couple of days which is they knew
they couldn't spy legally on American citizens.
So Brennan, along with fake FBI agents, along with Stefan Halper, along with others, Use our liaison services, which is the technical term for foreign intelligence agencies that are our friends.
So this is a big deal, isn't it?
That MI5, Australian intelligence, the Italians are basically the kind of contractors for Obama's CIA.
Well, I mean, this was one of the things that that I believe was first Uh, was first talked about, and I think 2017, whether the FBI and CIA had outsourced spying to, you know, to the Brits, GCHQ, especially electronic surveillance.
And I'm not sure that's the case.
That was one of the things that John Brennan said, that John Brennan claimed they were getting intelligence from foreign services.
And of course, there was no intelligence about Trump and his aides and the Russians.
None of that really existed.
It was all fake.
Everything was made up by the Clintons.
So did the CIA ask the Brits to spy on Trump and the Trump circle?
It's unclear.
We really don't have enough information that we know that foreigners who were at one time affiliated with intelligence services played a big role.
And this include number one, of course, Christopher Steele, the former MI6 officer.
So he was involved.
But we're, you know, and we believe Joseph Mifsud, the mysterious Maltese professor, may have had connection with Western services.
I wrote about that several years ago, and it's quite possible, but I know that this is something the House Intelligence Committee was looking into.
They never found, they never got answers for their very important question.
All right.
I believe John Durham was looking into it as well.
I was just going to say, Durham was looking into it well.
Are we moving to a break now?
We are indeed.
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Next up, what are the questions?
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Can we dial him back because it keeps skipping?
Can we dial you back, Lee?
Yeah.
We're just gonna dial you back.
She's still going with like the body language.
She is... God.
That's a moment you can tell she never thought she'd face consequences for her actions.
Yep.
It's glorious.
Alright, he's back.
It should be good.
I have really super high speed connection.
Yeah, it's just stuttering sometimes.
Is Mifsud still, like, disappeared?
Yeah, we haven't heard from the guy.
We haven't seen him in six years.
And it's surprising, right?
It's weird.
It is.
So again, it's possible he was part of an intelligence operation.
It seems even likely.
But again, we don't have any evidence.
That's a question we want answered.
The biggest question, Seb, I think, and I think it's a very good point you make, and we'll talk about it.
But I think the Republican House should have been looking at this the whole time.
Right.
I think they should have been looking for all sorts of stuff on Barack Obama.
And, you know, instead they were focused on fake impeaching Joe Biden.
I mean, you know, great.
Get Biden back for impeaching Trump.
But they could have, I mean, I think they could have gained some yards by getting all sorts of documents involving Barack Obama, but they didn't.
We're certainly putting up a fight.
We'll start with that.
That's great.
OK, we've done coma.
Oh, come in with five.
Come in with five.
And then I'll do my pillow and then we'll go to Lee.
Five, then pillow.
All right.
Did you do Ph.D.
last segment?
I did not!
Uh-oh.
Alright.
Oh my gosh.
I'll do Ph.D.
here instead.
Who whispered in my ear to do Ph.D.?
That was Alex, wasn't it?
Not me.
Exactly.
Oh.
Oops.
The trap!
And he steps in it.
Boom!
That was a confession.
Okay, good.
Whatever you say.
Well, you're not Catholic.
Not yet.
Oh, boy.
Not yet.
The crusades will begin again.
So, still pillow at the top?
No.
Oh, PhD.
PhD.
But come in with... Still come in with five.
Yeah.
All right.
One minute, Lee.
Wait.
Mm-mm-mm-mm.
All right.
Psh.
Mm-mm-mm-mm.
you I will be introducing another letter today.
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It will CC every member of his cabinet, and it will insist, it will insist that he come forward and be honest with us about his physical and his mental capabilities and his exams.
He's supposed to be getting a physical exam done here in just a few months, his annual physical.
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I think if there was ever, ever a time that we need a cognitive test for a sitting president
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His own DOJ says he's not mentally competent, and that's why they're not going to stand
him on trial for the felonious mishandling of classified documents.
So why would the White House physician not apply a mental acuity test?
That's the former White House physician, Admiral Ronny Jackson, Congressman Jackson, asking a very important question.
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just one, the books on what I call Obamagate, the plot against the president turned into
an amazing documentary by Amanda Milius and the permanent coup elite Smith.
Follow him right now on Twitter, at LeeSmithDC.
In the break in front of our Rumble viewers, you said something that Kind of hurts to admit, but I think it's right.
If we say Obama's the man responsible at the beginning for authorizing the surveillance of President Trump, for authorizing the surveillance of candidate Trump, why are we wasting our time trying to subpoena Hunter Biden, trying to potentially impeach Joe Biden?
What should the good guys on Capitol Hill really be doing, Lee?
Well, I mean, one of the things that one of the things they could be asking for that they should be asking for the release of those different documents that Donald Trump declassified before he before he left office.
Right.
I mean, that's certainly one of the things, you know, this is caught up.
This is part of the this is part of the Mar-a-Lago, maybe part of the Mar-a-Lago raid.
But it's, you know, I mean, this is these documents are at the heart of Russiagate.
So that's one of the things that they could be asking for.
I mean, you know, God bless Congressman Jackson, Dr. Jackson, great guy.
But I'm watching that clip you have and I'm kind of laughing.
I'm like, I don't know.
Do we do we really need a physician to to find out whether or not Joe Biden is is is cognitively there?
I think that.
Everyone has been pretty aware of that and we didn't need Joe Biden's DOJ to tell us either.
I mean, you know, so I think there's a lot of, there's a lot of important, a lot of important drama on Capitol Hill.
Some of it's less important, but there are different cases that people can be making.
Something just came to me, something super obvious.
Why have we not subpoenaed Brennan, Clapper, Stephen Halper, who's a U.S.
citizen.
Why have none of these people been subpoenaed?
Well, we know why they're not going to let Stefan Halper go.
They're not going to let Halper go because he's a confidential human source, right?
So, oh no, we're protecting our intelligence community.
We have to protect it.
Look, but one of the people they should absolutely put on the spot is Gina Haspel.
I mean, why not bring in Gina Haspel?
That's certainly someone they should be finding out what's going on, and who knows?
I tend to think she would not be cooperative, but maybe she'd turn out to be cooperative and talk to people on the Hill, talk to Republican senators, talk to Republican congressmen, and get some sort of sense of what Russiagate looked like.
Russiagate, I know.
We are now in the timeline with 10 million people having crossed our border, right, with the Biden administration throwing billions away in a proxy war on Russia's border after the 2020 election, after COVID mandates.
I know that Russiagate actually may not be the biggest political scandal in U.S.
history anymore, but it's still very important.
It's crucial to understand because Russiagate It is the template.
Not only is it the template, and it can be used again, and probably is being used right now.
We're talking to Lee Smith, DC, is the Twitter handle.
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Yes, I myself don't find Priestap that interesting a character.
He's kind of significant for the larger story, but he's kind of deep.
Detail-y, you know?
And Haspel is a major figure.
Haspel is a major figure.
All right, let's talk about Haspel, and then what about... Pick another one.
Here are your options.
Glenn Simpson, Danchenko, McCabe, stroke.
Pick one.
Well, let's talk about Glenn Simpson because he's evidence of how the media... Good.
Good.
Perfect.
So did you say earlier today when we spoke that you're writing about all this?
You're going to have an article soon?
I may write about it.
I'm not sure.
Tweeted out because these guys put up a new piece and I said, they talked about how the ICA was, um, Brennan cooked the process on the ICA and we're reporting that here for the first time.
I said, no, I reported this in my book, The Permanent Coup in 2020.
Yeah.
And Schellenberger tweeted back, um, I'm confident our sources are different.
I'm like, I don't, I don't see how that's relevant.
So I have to kind of figure out what's going on.
It's just, I don't know what's going on.
If you do publish something, and as soon as you do, will you send it to me so I can push it out?
Yeah, absolutely.
Thanks.
Good, good, good, good.
What about books?
Are you focusing on a new book?
I'm finishing a couple things I can't talk about right now, but I can talk Talk about the China book that is back on, so I'll be finishing that soon too, but that won't be out for a little while.
Exciting.
But I've got a couple other things that I'm finishing right now and should be out well before the election.
Who are you doing the China book with?
That's Center Street, the people who published Plot Against the President.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Excellent.
And Permanent Coup.
Great.
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Lee, there's so many names, so many names.
One of them, however, Seems more important than anyone, perhaps outside of John Brennan.
And that's his acolyte, the person who probably made things possible as chief of station in London.
And then as his replacement, or you know, his the CIA director herself, explain the significance in Obamagate of Gina Haspel.
Well, Gina Haspel, You're absolutely right.
It's very important.
She was the chief of station in London, and that's one of the key CIA posts.
You're working with MI6.
Everyone loves MI6.
Apparently, it's just a great setup over there, and you're running a lot of the European, if not all of the European operations, my understanding.
But this is where they ran the FBI.
I ran a large part of Russiagate out of, or Obamagate if you will, and this is where different agents came and a lot of the setups happened.
This is where Alexander Downer, the Australian diplomat, whose tip ostensibly started the
investigation.
That's a fake cover story.
But again, the FBI was moving in and out of London a lot.
And to move in and out of London, they have to contact the top person, the top intelligence
person at that embassy, and that was Gina Haspel at the time.
So Haspel must have known what was going on with the FBI, what the FBI was doing, how the FBI was working against the Donald Trump circle.
So that's one.
That's on the first end.
The second end is, as she replaced John Brennan—well, first there was Mike Pompeo, but I She replaced Mike Pompeo.
She came in and she held on to different documents that the House Intelligence Committee and others wanted to see.
She fought them tooth and nail for this.
And you'll remember at a certain point when Trump wanted to get Kash Patel in there to deal with certain issues, to declassify certain documents, Haspel threatened to resign.
So Haspel was extremely, more than uncooperative.
It appears that she was working for the other side to protect this information from getting out and to preserve—to save rogue actors in the Intelligence Committee rather than serve the president and rather than serve the country.
So, yeah, she was a hugely influential—and by influential, I mean destructive—figure in Obamagate.
She's a very big, very big figure, and we don't know enough about her.
And the question is, of course, what's she protecting?
Because if it was evidence of true Russian collusion between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin, then, of course, why would she hide it?
Oh, look, here we have the evidence.
If there's no evidence, if it's actually proof that it's manufactured and artificial, then she would have a vested interest to protect that information from ever being disclosed.
Let's flip to those outside government who are colluding with the deep state.
What is the significance of the man running Fusion GPS, the opposition research company, Glenn Simpson?
Well, he was very important, not just in Russiagate, Seb, but the way I see it, he really has He really represents the collapse of the media.
You and I have talked before about how the press has always been liberal, if not left-wing.
But with Glenn Simpson, we saw something else.
We saw the media become part of an intelligence operation.
And Simpson had worked at The Wall Street Journal.
He was a legitimate journalist before.
He'd worked at other places.
But when he came on with Fusion GPS, he became an intermediary for the intelligence community, for a political campaign with the press.
So this to me was really crucial.
And I hope that people pay more attention to the role that Glenn Simpson played, again, not just in Russiagate, but how he represents the collapse of the American press.
And it's such an important institution.
And right now we're living in its ruins.
I mean, as many criticisms as we've all had with the New York Times and Washington Post, Over the course of these two papers' existence, I mean, what they're like now over the last 15 years is nothing like what they were 20, 25 years ago.
They're hugely destructive, hugely destructive instruments used by the intelligence community.
I mean, they're platforms for information operations.
That's all they are.
And Simpson represents the transformation of how that came to pass.
And one of the people working for him is Nellie Orr, who is their chief Russia expert.
And who is Nellie Orr's husbandly Yeah, Nellie Orr's husband is a DOJ official named Bruce Orr, and they were both involved.
Nellie Orr worked for Glenn Simpson.
Bruce Orr, her husband, the DOJ official, was in touch with Glenn Simpson, as well as with Christopher Steele.
So he, too, was an intermediary.
And Seb, I'm glad you brought up the Orrs, because they're really crucial to understand, because that's how we really understand the origins of Russiagate.
The way that I see it, the origins of Russiagate are not in Europe.
They're not with European intelligence services.
They're not with the Brits.
They're not with the Italians.
They're at Fusion GPS and with the FBI.
This was a Clinton operation, a joint Clinton-FBI operation.
It was an LER who wrote that thing.
They had so many avatars here, right?
So many cutouts and buffers as what is it Don Cheech says in the, Don Cheech says in the
in the Godfather when Michael Corleone, when Michael Corleone is supposed to be testifying.
There were cutouts and buffers, right?
The fundamental work was done by Nellie Orr forging all of this fake information about Donald Trump and Russia.
They gave it to Danchenko.
They gave it to Steele as avatars.
And I'll never forget the day that I bumped into both Bruce and Nellie Orr at the local grocery store.
And I told them what I thought of them.
I'll talk about that in the break.
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I did the same to Bill Barr a year after.
He was leaving an event and I gave him a piece of my mind.
I think that Barr and Haspel are somewhat similar.
I think that Barr and Haspel are similar.
I think they played very bad roles.
I think that they justify that to themselves.
We can talk about this, if you want, after the break.
Yeah, we've only got... How much time do we have?
We've only got three minutes.
We've only got three minutes, so we can talk about that.
No, let's talk about some... No, let's talk about whatever you want to talk about.
Can we try and get a little bit of clarity on the binders question?
Because it's so confused right now.
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confusion in Recent reporting that you clarified years ago about binders
now cash Patel said on this show About a year ago the raid of Mar-a-Lago could have been
predicated on getting back the Russia gate Obama gate
Declassified documents and deep-sixing them or shredding them. We don't have confirmation
I think it's a very sound theory.
What about the intelligence community assessment that also is floating around?
Because that's another binder.
Could you explain what that is?
Yeah, right.
There are two different things.
The first thing that you were talking about is the A binder of declassified documents.
I don't know, we call it a binder or whatever.
Maybe it's just that it's so big it's a box.
We don't know.
But it was believed, and I wrote about this too, for Tablet in September 2022 after the Mar-a-Lago raid.
It appears that there was reporting around the time, and there's been reporting since, that the FBI believed That Donald Trump may be holding on to the crossfire hurricane documents.
You know, and I reported that some people believe that, and there's also some people, you know, close to, you know, close to the president who don't know if that's the case, and some doubt it's the case.
But that I think is what we mean when we're talking about the binder, the Mar-a-Lago, let's call it the Mar-a-Lago binder, that Donald Trump may or may not have, that the FBI may We're likely looking for when they read in Mar-a-Lago.
The other document or collection of documents that people are talking about is related to work that the House Intelligence Committee did investigating the intelligence community assessment.
… that John Brennan produced in 2017, released in January 2017, and Devin Nunes calls this Obama's dossier.
So that certainly fits into your name for the scandal, Obamagate, right?
This was all these bogus allegations that Vladimir Putin really elected Donald Trump to the White House in the 2016 race, right?
But that was all predicated on the intelligence community assessment, right?
Yeah. And the House Intelligence Committee, run by Nunes at the time, said they went in there and
they looked around and they said, no, this isn't right.
These guys are not going, not doing right things with our intelligence. This is a bogus document.
And I wrote about that in my book, The Permanent Coup, how they looked at the ICA, Intelligence Community Assessment.
So that's the other thing that people are talking about right now.
The work done by Nunes' committee on Brennan's work.
Whatever it is, Gina Haspel, Fusion, GPS, Stroke, Page, all of them.
He was there first.
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I worry about this sometimes, because you know me.
me. I have my proclivities. I have my little hobbies.
I've never seen a gun I didn't want to own.
And like my good friend says, they're like dollar bills, you can never have too many.
And I usually, usually restrain myself to 15 hours of radio a week, and I only talk about guns for You know, one or two little segments on a Friday.
But as you know, let's play a little bit of B-Roll.
I was in the desert not too long ago, having fun at the largest convocation of the lovers of the Second Amendment.
It's called Shot Show.
I think it was 60, 70,000 people checking out the latest armaments from the Second Amendment industry.
And it was a lot of fun.
Most of the fun isn't the weapons or testing them or seeing what's new, but it's meeting new people.
And that's why we're here today to go long form deep dive with a unusual Second Amendment content creator who's rather philosophical.
We're delighted to have him with us on the show today.
He's Brandon Langley of the YouTube channel you have to subscribe to right now.
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Brayden, welcome back to America First.
Well, thank you.
It's great to be on.
It's been so long since we talked.
I know!
It was at least three days ago.
Yeah.
No, it's amazing.
It's always a great time.
And meeting you at Shot was one of the highlights of my show, so that was awesome.
Oh, what a smoothie.
Checks in the mail.
I just, I'm trying to think back, because, you know, for those who haven't been to that perverse Disneyland for adults that is Vegas, at the end of the day, whatever conference you're at, You end up standing there's nowhere to sit because you're not allowed to sit unless you're playing one of the slot machines literally it says for players only so you're standing around this circular bar where the bar men and women are trying to placate hundreds of people and there's like only three
Three barmen working at the bar, and you're standing there for hours till the wee hours, smoking a Stoga, at least I am, and we chatted there for a while with, you know, Jared, Yanis, and others, and do I remember well that you were just second-hand smoking my cigar?
Did you even smoke a cigar, Brayden?
I was.
No, no, I did not.
I did not.
And it's only because my allergies do not get along with it.
My sinuses were like, that's a cute idea.
That's not going to work out for us, though.
So you can just hang out and have a drink.
Well, well, well, you did well.
And we got to some rather philosophical discussions that weren't just gun-related, but are much
deeper than that.
There's a story I think Eric has the buffer for that we'll get to in a moment.
But first things first, for those who missed our little six-minute chat last Friday, tell
us you're talking to about three and a half million radio listeners, and there's all the
video on Rumble, on OTT, the channels as well.
Who is Braden Langley and what is the mission of Langley Outdoors Academy?
I am a content creator that is a Second Amendment focused advocacy channel, and the way that we do that is a very simple mission statement.
We're not only going to tell you what's going on in the gun world, but we're also going to tell you how we're going to fix it.
And that ties into what we're about to talk about, because it's one thing to highlight what's going wrong. It's a completely
different thing to say what are we going to do about it, right? And so what we do on my channel is we go
through the breaking news of the gun world, we go through the tie-ins that are honestly pretty similar
to other parts of the political world, and we make a complete delicious cake of freedom. And that's
what we dish out every single day. And we'd love to have you on there. Anytime
delicious cake of freedom.
I like that.
I think we have the title for this hour.
Have a delicious cake of freedom.
Let's start with, I think there's a subtle inference there, or supposition I want to be more explicit about.
As you know, I've been doing this show for five years now, as of last month.
I think we started the second amendment thing maybe in the second year so we have one guest
a week.
That's a lot of guests.
That's hundreds of guests we've had.
And a couple of them are big names.
I hate the phrase content providers but you know they're in your world and I don't
embarrass anybody but I've had a couple and one of them I've brought around to thinking
the way we do.
But another one who's one of the biggest names he said yeah I'll come on your show with one
Express Proviso.
I don't do politics.
And my message to both of these individuals, one with whom it resonated and he's kind of come out of the closet, the first one who I think is, he's getting there.
He's getting there.
We can talk about who it is offline.
As I said, gently, dear friend, if you are interested in firearms, If your livelihood is about talking about firearms, then by dint of that you are already doing politics.
It's like, you know, Trotsky's alleged phrase, you may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.
I think you're spot on.
people who want to denude you of your Second Amendment rights, who think only
the police and the military should have guns. Guns are already a political issue.
Can you get, can I get your response to that warning I gave my guests? I think
you're spot-on. I mean like you could not be more correct. I mean a lot of the time
people will shy away from politics because it can lead to uncomfortable
It can lead to emotional reactions with a lot of people.
But to your point, if you're in the gun world and you like guns and you talk about guns a lot and you go to SHOT Show and you are making content on guns, boo, you have been in the political world for the two A's since you stepped in.
You may not talk about it, but to your point, it talks about you a whole lot.
And so, You can't really avoid it, so if we can't avoid something, we can either be defeated by it or we can adapt to it, and that's what we focus on, is adapt into it.
Right.
Alright, so tell us a little bit about your story, because there are... I don't want to, you know, hurt anybody's feelings, but there are definite categories or baskets of Second Amendment YouTubers or gun content providers.
There are the guys that do the gun reviews.
There are the guys that do the historical, like Ian McCallum and, you know, the Forgotten Weapons Channel.
There are those that, you know, explicitly talk about the laws, that talk about, you know, the legal aspects, what the ATF is trying to do.
And then there are the weirdos like Brandon Herrera who just have a wicked sense of humor and are a little bit perverse and do a gun and let's call it the infotainment.
What is your channel and how did you start?
Were you a political mind who got into guns or were you a geeky gun guy who said I'm going to do content?
Walk us through the creation of the Langley Outdoors Academy.
That was an amazing intro.
But am I wrong about the big baskets?
No, you're dead on.
You're dead on.
I was being serious and sincere.
That is a completely accurate assessment of the environment of which I work in.
So the way that I would put myself in a bucket, if I was going to put my bucket, I would say that I'm on the advocate side.
I'm also on the political analysis side based off of news events.
So like you said, there's There's sectors and segments within the gun world.
You highlighted them really well.
There's a specific area which is news-related, breaking events-related, and I would kind of fall in that broad bucket.
Now, the differentiator that I've kind of carved myself out in that niche is, yeah, we're going to talk about those things, but what does it mean if you zoom out?
What's the why behind it?
What are we getting into from a standpoint of our rights?
What are we getting to the Second Amendment?
Hey, is there a way that the Second Amendment veterans who were in this fight for decades Can they apply those skills what we've learned in other areas of our rights, in other areas fighting the left?
Because Newsflash, the left has the same playbook.
They just choose where to apply it.
It's not different per topic, right?
So that's where I would put myself in.
It's advocacy, it's analysis, and it's tying the entire, the entire Picture together right that freedom cake I alluded to or I
like to say the tapestry of freedom It's all about the different threads of what we're talking
about. They all go together to make something bigger, right?
That's where I would put myself. It's trend. It's trend focused analysis and Second Amendment advocacy
You use an interesting phrase there the Second Amendment veterans not the military veterans with the people who've
been advocating for the Second Amendment We just like 30 seconds talk about them and also for
example Their failures such as the NRA going from the most
important civil rights entity in America to being just a scandal
filled disaster How much do we need to have a bottom-up reformation of the 2A community?
Oh, that's the key of what's happening right now.
You are alluding to something that is happening.
It has been happening.
Biden really kicked it off.
You had, prior to this, in the 2A veterancy, when I refer to that, it's the people who have been doing this for a long time, right?
Not putting any dispersions on the individuals.
Now, if you look at organizations, of course, the organizations can make mistakes.
They're entities.
They can make wrong decisions.
And the NRA is one of those.
They made a lot of wrong decisions, particularly around gun policy, right?
But something that I say a lot, and the left makes this mistake, They focus on the NRA as all gun owners and all gun members.
We can't do the exact same thing.
So if you look at what's occurred, like in the past two to three years, as the NRA lost its really guiding light mission, what happened was different groups got decentralized and everyone has their own different level of endorsement.
And you've got this ecosystem that's forming, whether you're talking about lawsuits from FPC, the Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America for the Advocacy, like all these groups, And that's actually what's happening.
The grassroots are starting to drive upwards through the economic development of a under material and that's the That's something that a lot of people don't really see.
All right, we've got to break that down because that's a really important observation, a really important trend line, that the grassroots changing the whole sector.
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I think you're right.
You're in it.
I'm kind of a little bit outside of it.
I do a little bit of gun stuff on social media.
I talk about it on the radio show like once a week.
But I'm more a consumer than I am a content producer like you and your colleagues are that we met at SHOT Show at Braden.
I see what you just identified.
A kind of revolutionary reformation.
of the whole gun sector in America, which is really organic.
The NRA failed us for the last, I don't know, five years, ten years, whenever, you know, Wayne Lapierre started destroying it.
As a result, all these little other organizations were created, Gun Owners of America, Firearms Policy Coalition, all these other groups started, really did the heavy lifting with court cases, with With advocacy.
And then, on top of all of that, COVID hits, and I go to my local gun store in Virginia, and there's literally a line out the door, down the corridor, of people who've never handled a gun before, won a gun, feel it's important, they can't trust the state, understand that, you know, the Second Amendment isn't about white tails.
And I think the latest figures are 40 million new gun owners since COVID hit.
So can you slice for us how significant, let's say, the last five years are and what the so what of it is?
What does it mean for those of us who believe in the Second Amendment?
So what you're hitting on is something that we've seen, and a really good way to say it is a grassroots reformation from the ground upwards, right?
One of the things that the left really likes to do is they like to castigate us as specific demographics.
Oh, these people with their Bibles and their guns and they look like this and this.
It's not like that anymore.
The left has pushed it so hard.
And to your point, 40 million guns have been bought.
Just in the last two and three years and those demographic buckets that are buying them have never bought guns before.
You're talking about minorities and women were the two biggest percentages by like 25 and 30 percent.
These are massive numbers.
And when you look at what that's doing to the gun community, it's only fueling the grassroots bottom level up because you're getting an infusion of people that have not been there prior.
Now that is so incredibly important because as you look into every single movement, every single thing that has happened through history, the time that it goes from something that is maintaining to really popping is when different groups are injected into it, which is why you see left the left trying to malign anybody who would go near it and saying, Oh, don't do that.
It's really scary.
It's terrifying because they know that their lines of attack are not going to be effective anymore.
And that's the big piece.
And when you look at, The most beautiful part about this entire thing is what we're describing right now is piece by piece an economic model that is literally capitalism in the free market working the way that it's supposed to.
The NRA, which was the dominant force at the top, was not providing the service which created demand.
Smaller splinter groups started at the bottom level, started harnessing that demand, started growing, and then you now have a healthy undersystem.
If you look at it as a forest, the undergrowth is coming up and the NRA is starting to die at the top and everything's coming up.
The left just made us into a hydra.
A good Hydra, this time it's a good Hydra.
Is our community, the established community, you, the, you know, we call the veterans,
the new guys, me, is our broader community capable of absorbing these new members to
the family?
Is there anything we should be doing more of?
Because 30 million people is a lot of people to add to your family for Thanksgiving.
That's a lot of tables.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
But don't worry, they can harvest their own now because they're newly acquired tools.
Yeah, genuinely, I believe that the entire community is not only capable, but they are also ready to do it.
There's a difference in this, and the best way that I can describe it is it's not top-down that's happening.
This is from the ground up, and it's starting with creators on the social content level.
I'm seeing more different types of people, different demographic buckets.
More people are interested at the base level, at the bottom level, where the community demands are meeting exactly what the, you know, really the consumer demands are.
Community and consumers are meeting and the companies are following it,
which is the way that it should be doing.
Prior, the companies tried to kind of steer where everything was going.
Yes, yes, yes.
They've effectively lost that control because we had too much of an influx.
And I don't think it was a negative intent, but... No, no, it was just, you know, big corporations being big corporations.
I want to put you on the spot here, and I don't know if they're an advertiser.
We'll talk about the people you've got on the back there, Sonoran Desert Institute, which you told me are good guys, but I think the exemplar of a company, a big company, a successful company, that's responding to the people, not trying to drive their wants and desires, is Palmetto State.
Would you agree?
I would agree and the reason why I would agree is because they are fulfilling a business model that
is essential. Now a lot of people can have their misgivings on PSA. I mean any group has any any
company has their misgivings, their detractors. But when you look at what PSA is doing of taking a
effectively their business model is pairing two things innovation with economies of scale.
Right.
So the more they purchase, the more that they can bring in, the lower the cost can go, more firearms are delivered to more people at lower price.
That is literally economics.
So now the people who will detract against that, oh, it's not the high end or this.
Well, that's fine.
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That's called capitalism.
Yep.
That's exactly right.
But that's why I think that their model is so powerful.
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You said something about Communicating effectively in politics in general, on narrative-based issues.
And you also highlighted how it is to be really smart.
Do we have that story, Eric, about the gun buyback?
Do we have that?
So here we have this story that I wasn't familiar with, where some state or locality decided they're going to have a big gun buyback program.
And then a company said, oh, yeah, we'll help you dispose of those weapons.
And instead they resold them as, you know, firearms parts kits.
That's just bloody genius.
Will you unpack why people don't think like that often enough and then this fascinating dichotomy between the Message of fear a la Biden standing outside of Liberty Hall bathed in red saying half the nation are MAGA terrorists and you know a message of hope if we go back to the golden escalator in Trump Tower and the make America great again.
So can you talk about good communications and then outsmarting the people who hate the Second Amendment?
Yeah.
So now did preference.
Do you want me to hit the buyback first?
Or do you have an order reference or like any kind of desire?
Your buyback is a good example of a super spot.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
So this was a very interesting story in the Times.
The New York Times got very, very mad about this, Sebastian.
They were not pleased because in Michigan, one of their big claims to flame claims to fame is they we did all these buybacks.
Well, a company called Gun Busters said, Hey, we will take care of those and we will dispose of those for you.
And the best part about this is this is the sweetness right here.
They said to Michigan, Hey, Would you guys like us to destroy them in full for a fee, which would be putting them through a grinder and making them into nothing?
Or would you like us to just destroy the firearm that is legally a firearm and that's what you want?
We'll do that for free.
So you got to explain what that means.
Oh, I'm getting there.
Oh, I'm getting there.
I'm getting there.
So Michigan said, well, the free option, of course, because there's no cost.
It's obvious.
We like gun buybacks.
We don't like costs.
So now what you're just alluding to, Per the ATF, the thing that is actually the gun is the actual receiver.
Well, on all of these deadly weapons of war that they would claim exist, all you have to do is take off the barrel, take off the grip, take off the buttstock, take off the magazine, and then disassemble it completely.
And the ATF, per federal regulations, that is the actual gun.
It's serialized.
So let's be clear here.
On an AR-15, Everything, the trigger group, everything, the barrel, the gas system, everything is not a gun.
And the only thing that counts as a gun is this hollow little thing which takes the magazine and the trigger group.
That's it.
That's the only thing you have to destroy.
That's the quote-unquote firearms receiver.
Correct.
And that's, and that points to something that is so beautiful because the gun controllers, they don't understand that in general.
And you can't really break that down.
I mean, put yourself in the gun control perspective.
If you're trying to talk about how to destroy guns or get rid of guns, are you going to spend all of your time talking about, well, this frame and receiver is actually the gun.
Those other parts aren't.
No, their marketing is going to be the least common denominator, which we're going to tie in in a second.
So the company took those guns, disassembled them.
Got rid of the frame or receiver and actually got rid of destroyed that piece and they sold the pieces that were not serialized, which are not the gun for millions of dollars of profit per year at the behest of gun buybacks.
Well, New York Times, this was this was an atrocity among all atrocities, because this is now guns are becoming guns.
And it's like, wow, it's almost like you guys didn't figure out or know what it was before you did it.
Well, we'll save the fear versus a hope till the next segment.
But let's just be clear here.
Leftists wanted to disarm people.
A company said, we'll help you do that.
And then they made money selling off the parts of the guns to citizens in America legally who could then build their own weapons.
Just bloody beautiful.
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Sorry, I asked two complicated questions right after another.
So we have two very different political visions in the last decade in America.
We have President Trump coming down the escalators, beaming, smiling, America's amazing, let's get it back to where it should be, you know, the Reagan-esque shining city on a hill.
And then we've got, you know...
Beijing Biden outside this incredibly historic building, one of the most important buildings
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uniform and literally labeling half the nation domestic terrorists.
Fear, fear, fear, be afraid, be very afraid.
Brayden, as we were sitting there in Vegas, or standing there at the bar for a long time, you kind of unpacked something that should be obvious but isn't.
And I think isn't well understood by the good guys in America, especially the politicians, the few good guys that are on the right.
Will you explain the dichotomy between those two tool sets and which one is more efficacious?
Yeah, so this was one of my highlights of SHOT Show, as I mentioned in the introduction, because we had such a sparkling conversation amidst all, everything that was going on, but it was all based on two different motivating factors.
You've got hope and you've got fear.
So in the gun world, this is something that we do on my channel.
I said in the introduction, I'll always tell you what's going on, but I'm also going to tell you what we're going to do about it.
And that's a very important mindset switch because we are so conditioned on the gun world particularly.
And then we can obviously back this out broad as well from politics to politics.
But if you look at what we're told, we're told they're going to take our guns.
They're going to take your guns.
They're coming for your guns.
You better do this because they're coming for your guns.
And my simple question, or not really even a question, my real simple statement is, of course they are.
They tell you they're going to.
Why are you surprised?
Why are you surprised?
Biden said it on the campaign trail.
Beto O'Rourke said it.
Right.
Of course they're going to.
Why are we surprised by them doing what they say they're going to do?
And that kind of unlocks something.
It's clear what they're going to do.
What are we going to do about it?
And that's where the hope piece comes in.
Because I could do a video segment saying, this is how they're going to screw you today.
Make sure you watch this whole video and make sure you come back tomorrow when I tell you how they're going to screw you again tomorrow.
That's not driving anything for the positive next generation or what we're doing.
I don't want you to forget where you're going, but can I just ask, and there may be an obvious question.
Why is it always the same, apart from what you do?
I mean, almost everybody else, with the exceptions, who are our friends, it's always, they're coming after our guns!
They're coming after our guns!
And it's like, okay, so what?
Why?
Is it laziness?
Is it just, it's easier to put, you know, our hair on fire?
Why so much of the content, all this, they're coming for our guns, without the, okay, so what do we do about it?
Because fear is a natural motivator for a short-term decision.
Right?
So if you look at our lizard brains, we respond to fear very, very well.
Yeah.
And that's just a natural, that's just, that's part of what we are.
Right?
But it's not a malicious intent to say, I want to keep you in a fear place.
It's because the moment of what we're talking about is so crucial.
You have to see this.
They're going to do this.
So you have to see this.
That works to an extent, and this is kind of where we were going, the same track of our conversation.
The one thing that supersedes any type of fear, any type of command is hope and a clear message where everyone is aligned, going in the same direction.
You cannot overcome that once it's achieved.
And you mentioned something, Trump's message is typically, Hey, let's make America great again.
Or, Hey, you know what?
Let's do that again.
That was fun the first time, you know, whatever it would be.
It's based on a determined outcome of positive for country, something that you love.
Let's do this XYZ.
The other side of that, like you said, Biden declared half the country scary, horrible people because they must be terrorists.
Look at me.
I'm in red.
Look at the Marines behind me.
And that's going to get a short-term reaction, but it's not going to deliver a long-term movement.
We're chasing the movement, and that kind of goes back to what we were talking about.
The grassroots, people aren't buying it.
They're looking for something to follow behind or be part of leading it.
And that's where the hope comes in because people will respond long-term to hope
much more and much more effectively than fear in the short-term.
You're not a politician, but I want to put you on the spot for a second
because it's more than just saying nice things, and puppy dogs, and rainbows.
When you're giving a vision of hope, What should be happening instead?
Is it positive messages about concrete things?
Is it action items?
Give a little bit of a tip for that person who says, okay, yeah, yeah, Braden's making sense.
Okay.
The big thing is You have to understand in the fight that we're doing for our rights, whether the border matters to you, whether gun rights matter to you, whether X, Y, Z matters to you, everything that we need on our side is either written in the Constitution or is in the Bill of Rights.
Everything that we need is right there.
So then the only step that you have to do from there is look into the history of what progressivism has done, how they go about doing it, and then tie the dots together.
Because that's what we're not watching a new movie.
This is the this is A movie they've done for a hundred plus years, and they always do the exact same thing.
They isolate everybody, they start turning people against each other, then they say, this bucket wants you to do this, so we need to take this bucket's things away.
Oh, yours too.
That's how they do it.
So if you understand what they've done in the past, and you use your brain, and you learn from the knowledge that's there, you can get in front and know where they're going to go.
Like for the gun control fight, specifically in my channel, We know where they're going to go because it's quite obvious.
They can't stop at certain gun control efforts because then their money would dry up.
Then their donations would dry up.
They have to achieve gun control even though they can't.
That's why they go through all of the things that they're going through.
The Second Amendment is ironclad.
The Constitution is ironclad.
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up Chevron deference.
That is a massive deal because that takes the power out of the bureaucracies
that are making the laws so Congress isn't accountable.
Like all those things wouldn't be possible if people did not understand it and
actually put pen to paper and brain to the book and then you can do it. You can
beat these people.
It's easy. He makes it sound easy.
It's not easy because it's a real mind switch.
You've got to think differently.
It is.
But the good thing is, he's right.
You don't have to invent anything.
You start with the Bill of Rights.
You start with the Constitution.
You have the best, you have a toolkit that the left doesn't have.
The left has ideology.
It has, you know, the cult, the little seals that are clapping if you say, you know, abortion is good.
But the toolkit is our toolkit.
There's nothing stronger than the toolkit we have.
And of course, the truth, which is on our side.
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Alright, I don't know why I'm doing this, it's probably because I'm just a decent chap,
All right, I don't know why I'm doing this.
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In the last two minutes we have...
You're doing something great.
Keep on doing it with all of the good guys out there.
Any words of wisdom or advice for somebody who wants to get into this family of content provider and likes guns?
What kind of hurdles should they expect and what kind of tips can you give them?
The most important tip that I can give anybody that wants to do anything in this realm is you have to figure out your why.
You have to figure out why you're doing it.
You have to be sound on what you're doing and why you're doing, and everything else is going to fall in place.
You will meet roadblocks.
You will meet censorship.
You will meet things that are blocked.
You will meet every single obstacle that you can imagine, but if you use them as fuel to make yourself stronger for that why and reinforce it, You will be further along than you ever thought you would be.
It's incredibly important to not only instill hope in others, but also hope and belief in yourself.
There you go.
Beautiful.
And when you're rooting around like that dog looking for the truffle or whatever it is, Can somebody help you with identifying the why?
Is it an internal exercise of self-reflection or do you bounce it off other people in discussion?
Any tips?
Because that's a big thing, that's finding meaning and purpose.
Is there any shortcut to that?
The beauty and the development is in the struggle of that question.
Right?
So when you ask something as grandiose as why, that can go a lot of different ways and you might be surprised where it takes you, but genuinely the development and the struggle and the research, when you have a question, you find your own answer and then you start tying those things all together.
It's a process, but my own channel, I would not have been where I am if I didn't make a decision to transition from actual gun reviews into political analysis and news analysis.
That was scary, but I knew my why.
I knew what I was going to do, and then it just led you.
You have to persevere.
That's American as the day is long.
Beautiful.
And I'm going to put pressure on you right now in front of millions of listeners and viewers.
What you're doing is not enough.
It's cool.
We need more like you in the Second Amendment community.
But you have this philosophical mindset and this philosophical toolkit that you need to develop with content that's about that as well, whether it's on another channel or whether it's in a Wow.
Podcasts with people you're just BSing with and smoking cigars with you you have a rare talent
And I'm just gonna you know say publicly in front of millions of people right now Wow yeah
You should you should you don't have conversations like that
What?
You got another show coming that I don't know about?
We gonna do a thing?
Well, I've got plans.
I'm building a whole empire.
But I'm talking about giving you some encouragement.
But we can talk about that offline.
In the meantime, educate yourself on different ways to win.
Because it's all about winning for America.
At Langley Outdoors on YouTube.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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