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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: How Obama spied on the Trump campaign

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	Now tell them who Jesus Christ is to you.
	Well, I mean, you know, it's everything.
	I mean, you know, we're not here without Him, you know.
	Most people I know, young people, think Jesus Christ is a swear word.
	You know, even at Solid Rock, you know, where we have the teenagers down there, they have no idea that, who Jesus Christ is.
	He's not preached enough.
	You know, most written-about character of all time in history, and yet people go out of their way to not believe in him.
	Why do you think that is?
	I think it's because they don't want to give up their godship.
	You know, they want to be... I'm a good enough... They believe the Hollywood version of, oh, I do more good than bad, that kind of thing.
	And I go, why is that?
	Satan's got you right where he wants you.
	Then Satan's got you right where he wants you.
	Ah, you know, whenever I see that video, for those who don't recognize the voice, it's Alice Cooper.
	Kind of like, what?
	Alice Cooper?
	Yeah, that's Alice Cooper, with some of the most profound words you'll hear this Lenten season.
	It is Ash Wednesday and I just...
	I wanted to share that with you because it's so true.
	Most people do not want to deny their own Godship.
	That's probably the biggest problem in the world today.
	That is the function of postmodern secular world that denies God's existence and then everybody thinks that they are their own God.
	Thank you, Alice Cooper, for bringing us back to what we should have before us this Ash Wednesday and putting Jesus back in his rightful place.
	Before I move on to the tectonic story of the day, and no, it's not Majorcas's impeachment, which is largely irrelevant, but we'll talk about it a little bit.
	A bit of good news.
	This morning my wife took me to church because it's Ash Wednesday and it was the closest church to us that's adjoining a big school.
	You know what the really great thing was?
	There's that moment in the Mass, in the service, where you're supposed to shake each other's hands.
	It's the sign of peace.
	Not one person wanted to actually shake hands.
	I guess the COVID thing is still whatever.
	But it was a school service, so there were hundreds of kids there.
	And the kids, they all wanted, with big smiles on their faces, to shake each other's hands.
	The next generation isn't afraid.
	And that is a glorious sight to behold.
	Okay.
	Vindication, vindication, vindication.
	The publishing of an article yesterday has vindicated so many of my friends and great patriots.
	Mark Levin, Dan Bongino, Lee Smith, Miranda Devine, John Solomon, General Mike Flynn, and especially President Trump.
	President Trump told us Seven years ago, that his campaign had been spied upon, and that the Russia collusion hoax was a fabrication.
	An article published yesterday by Matt Taibbi, Michael Schellenberg, and Alex Gutentag is the bombshell.
	Why?
	Because we knew what really happened.
	Dan spoke about this six years ago.
	President Trump talked about it seven years ago.
	Mark Levin talked about it seven years ago.
	But now we have confirmation.
	Let me just put the, you know, the big point up first.
	The Obama administration, on the orders of the then president, Targeted 26 U.S.
	nationals in contravention of the U.S.
	Constitution and in negation of their civil rights.
	John Brennan's CIA worked with our Five Eyes partners, that's the English language intelligence community, UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, And used foreign intelligence agencies to illegally surveil U.S.
	nationals.
	You can't do that.
	You're not allowed.
	The U.S.
	government can't just spy on you if there's no evidence that you're doing something wrong.
	They used the British.
	They used the Italians.
	They used the Australians.
	And they used other agencies To do what Leventi Beria said was his purpose in the proto-KGB of the Soviet Union.
	Show me the man and I will find you the crime!
	They used foreign agencies to plant spurious stories about Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos, Carter Page.
	They even forged a document inside the CIA to mean the reverse of what it actually stated about Carter Page and they used all of that fabricated CIA John Brennan generated fabricated tissue of lies to issue secret FISA warrants Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court warrants against US nationals under
	The Operation Crossfire Hurricane allegation that they were working with the Russians.
	Of course, we in the Trump campaign weren't working with the Russians.
	If anybody was, it was Hillary Clinton, through Christopher Steele, the MI6, former spy, Fusion GPS, and a certain foreign agent working at a think tank in Washington, D.C., a man called Danchenko.
	They needed an insurance policy.
	And we now know the following.
	Quote from the report.
	The United States intelligence community, including the CIA, illegally mobilized foreign intelligence agencies to target Trump advisers long before even the summer of 2015.
	British intelligence began targeting President Trump on behalf of American intelligence agencies possibly as early as 2015, including GCHQ, the Government Communications Headquarters, the British version of the NSA.
	According to the House Permanent Select Committees on Intelligence's report, this is the source for this article, The U.S.
	intelligence community asked the Five Eyes Intelligence Alliance to surveil Trump's associates and share any intelligence they acquired with U.S.
	agencies.
	President Barack Obama's CIA director, John Brennan, identified 26 Trump associates for the Five Eyes foreign intelligence agencies to target.
	The IC identified those associates as people to quote bump, to make contact with, or to manipulate.
	The most powerful intelligence community in the world was used as a political weapon against a candidate,
	then a president-elect, and then a man who had been elected by 63 million Americans.
	Question is, what now?
	Can we continue to live in a country where if you're a conservative, if you're a Trump supporter, the CIA and the FBI and the NSA We'll use all their powers against you, despite you being innocent.
	We will be dedicating the third hour of the show to a one-on-one interview with Matt Taibbi.
	Don't go anywhere.
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	Who else can we get in 15 minutes?
	Copy that.
	Who else can we get in 15 minutes?
	Oh, goodness.
	Farrell.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I was gonna say Joe or Victoria.
	Yeah, we should do a deeper dive.
	Oh, yeah.
	I think that right there, the five eyes thing is the absolute headline of it all.
	It's in terms of getting people to understand how big this is.
	Right.
	Well, and the binder, we got to talk about the binder.
	Or Solomon.
	Again, Solomon would be yeah, actually.
	If you want to have them on twice a week.
	Ask Solomon.
	One mic's off?
	Yes.
	Mike's off.
	you you
	I've been a prosecutor for 25 years.
	I know what a high crime and misdemeanor are.
	And I know that this doesn't qualify.
	This is a policy difference.
	You can try to put lipstick on this pig.
	It is still a pig.
	And this is a terrible impeachment.
	It sets a terrible precedent.
	The first impeachment of Donald Trump was a bad impeachment.
	And we've got to stop this in this body or we are going to lose our credibility, further lose our credibility with the American public.
	Outgoing disgrace to Colorado, Congressman Ken Buck saying, impeaching Mayorkas, that was just a policy disagreement.
	He didn't do anything wrong, really.
	Well, unless you think opening the border to 8 million illegals, allowing 110,000 Americans to be murdered each year by the drugs coming across that border, I guess that's just a policy disagreement.
	The sooner we get rid of you and we have a patriot in your seat, the better.
	And the fact that a former Marine, my former intern, Mike Gallagher, voted again not to impeach Mayorkas...
	Good riddance to you as well, Mike.
	Go back to Wisconsin, OK?
	Really.
	We need patriots in that seat.
	But at least it happened.
	I think Steve Scalise must have been back from the hospital and we got the votes.
	Only the second cabinet member ever to be impeached and I think it's 148 years since the first one.
	Thank you, Mike Johnson.
	Thank you.
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	There's some breaking news on the cable.
	Kansas City, there's some active shooting, but the two individuals have been arrested.
	As soon as we find out more, we'll give you the details of that.
	But first, I need to talk about a story that I haven't given adequate attention to.
	And really, it's an indicator of a much larger problem.
	They wanted to send $90 billion to other countries and not America, and not to rebuild our military.
	And what is the cost of that?
	Let's put the article up on the screen.
	From our friends at Breitbart, Three dozen troops killed in one year of military aviation mishaps.
	Pentagon response is unclear.
	In the last incident, just a few days ago in California, five Marines, Lance Corporal Donovan Davis, Sergeant Alec Langan, Captain Benjamin Moulton, Captain Jack Casey, Captain Miguel Nava, lost because of another aircraft accident.
	Why is it happening?
	Let's ask our buddy, Pentagon correspondent for Breitbart.com.
	It's been a while.
	Welcome back, Christina Wong.
	Thanks for having me on, Seb.
	Glad to be here.
	So this, you know, I talked about this on a Twitter space yesterday.
	Dozens of our warfighters killed in aviation accidents in one year.
	That would be kind of understandable if it were Venezuela or, you know, Papua New Guinea, but not the world's most powerful military.
	We've got 12 nuclear aircraft carriers More special operators than most people have soldiers in their armies.
	What's going on, Christina?
	Well, it appears that we're not focusing on basic competency.
	The problem appears to be lack of flight hours for the pilots and also practice for the maintainers, because the fewer flight hours you have, the fewer opportunities maintainers have to maintain.
	And that means basic problems get overlooked.
	But the main problem is the lack of flying hours, and that's been happening for at least a decade.
	It's getting worse and worse.
	Now, this year, I believe we have the lowest number of flying hours for pilots in the Air Force, and the flying hours are going down in all of the services.
	For the Army, for the Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, flying hours are going down, mishap rates are going up.
	The mishap, that means accidents.
	And so, the basic problem, besides from the lack of flying hours, is leadership.
	And leadership not focusing on making sure the pilots are conducting those flying hours And so in the Air Force, the pilots are allotted a certain number of flying hours, and they're not even meeting those hours.
	And apparently, they're not being held to account by leadership.
	So promotion, that doesn't depend on your flying hours, whereas in the past, it used to.
	So nowadays, it's just do your best.
	Try to meet these flying hours.
	If you can't, that's OK.
	And that wasn't the case.
	I spoke to a great expert, John Venable at Heritage Foundation, a retired F-16 pilot.
	He flew in the 80s and 90s, and he said back then, the training was very different.
	There were very high mishap rates, but they were flying extremely risky maneuvers because they were preparing for the Cold War.
	They were preparing for a war with Russia.
	And so in the global wars on terror, you didn't have any kind of high threat environment like that in Afghanistan or Iraq.
	And so the training became, he said, very benign.
	And so we're still flying benign training, he said.
	And there's none of that risky, you know, maneuver types.
	But the problem is the accidents are still happening.
	And that's because of the lack of basic training.
	We've only got like a minute and a half left.
	What can be done?
	Surely we have civilian oversight.
	We have Congress.
	I mean, people are dying because they're not getting the requisite training or flight hours.
	Is there any response that we can see coming out of Washington?
	Yeah, you know, I shouldn't laugh.
	This is an extremely serious problem.
	There should be some sort of response.
	But I laugh because the Pentagon created, the Biden Pentagon created a council called the Joint Safety Council that was supposed to address these military aviation mishaps.
	And I was doing some online research At a meeting last year in July, they were discussing motorcycle fatalities.
	So, this council that sprung from a congressionally appointed commission to look into these accidents, they're looking at motorcycle fatalities.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	And it doesn't seem like the problem is going to get any better under this leadership.
	The response is really unclear.
	I queried the Pentagon.
	They said they received my query, and then they had no response.
	They had no response as to what this Joint Safety Council is doing.
	Remember, this is the Lloyd Austin Mark Milley Pentagon.
	Please, dear listeners, pray for the souls of those lost in these preventable accidents and pray for the families they leave behind.
	Get all the details at Breitbart.com and please follow Christina at Christina underscore Wong and give us a follow as well on all the social media platforms that matter.
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	You For the the victims, right
	Yeah.
	The 49ers.
	No, the Chiefs.
	Oh, the Chiefs.
	There was a shooting at the parade.
	Oh, boy.
	It was in the train station, supposedly.
	But why is there a parade at 3 in the afternoon?
	When would you have it?
	Well, I do it, you know, when most people can go and people are working right now, right?
	Well, it doesn't matter.
	So many people show up for those things.
	That's true, unfortunately.
	Titles?
	Why are so many of our troops dying?
	Our troops dying?
	I don't know a title for the monologue.
	I'm too in it.
	Well, you started with Ash Wednesday and then you talked about, of course, the whole Russia stuff.
	Um...
	Uhhhh...
	Something along the lines of vindication, because you hit that point.
	Yeah, but who's vindicated?
	It's such a long list.
	Trump is the big one.
	Yeah, I know, I know.
	The 26th number is good.
	We know how many Americans they spied on or something like that?
	Yeah.
	Obama ordered The targeting of President Trump.
	That's good.
	Yep.
	And for Matt?
	What's a good title?
	Um...
	What's a good title?
	Um...
	Oh...
	Thank you.
	How they used MI6 to illegally spy on Trump.
	That's good, right?
	Yeah, I like that.
	God, you'd think they'd have security, like...
	Nobody's business.
	Don't you have, like, police cordoning off the parade?
	Well, Taylor Swift wasn't there.
	Yeah, but it looks like it was in the train station, which is kind of near the parade.
	Oh, okay, okay, okay.
	Near the parade.
	Okay, like it wasn't an actual... So they don't think that it was... We don't know if it targeted the parade or not.
	No.
	The media's probably gonna... Oh, it says near the parade.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, alright.
	Alright, that's... That's different.
	Thirty seconds.
	Uh...
	I'm sorry.
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	Well, Governor Abbott is an embarrassment and a human trafficker.
	But besides his political gamesmanship, I do think it's important for all of us, Democrats and Republicans, to recognize that we have a broken immigration system.
	We do need to address the challenges at the border, and it should be done in a manner that is comprehensive and bipartisan.
	That will be the only way to solve this problem.
	I'm gonna say it again, Jeff.
	Hakeem Jeffries, I mean, they went like to the bottom of the barrel.
	I mean, if he's the guy who's supposed to be the next speaker, if they ever win, the guy's like, he sounds like he fell off the stupid tree and knocked all the branches on the way down.
	He's not even a good communicator.
	He just repeats talking points, but they don't even flow when he does it.
	It doesn't sound right.
	I guess that's meant to be a zinger, right, Jeff?
	That Governor Abbott is a human trafficker.
	And an embarrassment.
	The guy who's trying to secure the border and putting up barbed wire, he's a trafficker.
	I think you should look at the polls.
	People were siding with Texas over the federal government on that issue, too.
	All right.
	So let me give you my take before we get back to the big story of the day.
	I mean, they're talking about, oh, Jake Tapper!
	That's CNN.
	Jake Tapper just sits there like he's the biggest human trafficker and you're just going to sit there?
	What a hack.
	What a Democrat, former Hill staffer hack.
	First things first before my take on the significance of what happened last night with the impeachment.
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	All right, we have a little bit of an update from Kansas City.
	This was a shooting there.
	The officers are still on the site right now.
	Associated to happening at the same time as the Super Bowl victory parade for the Chiefs, okay?
	It doesn't look necessarily like the active shooters to have been arrested, targeted the parade itself.
	It looks like it happened in the vicinity of the parade in the railway station.
	A lot of cops, you know, charging into the railway station.
	soon as we have more details of who the shooters were and the injuries we'll
	share that with you but that's the latest from Kansas City.
	Last night, second time ever in history, 140 odd years since the first
	time a cabinet secretary was impeached, finally we got the votes. Alejandro
	Mayorkas has been impeached. Now technically that doesn't mean anything
	because now it has to go Who runs the Senate?
	The Democrats.
	They can hold a session and Chuck Schumer can say oh blah blah blah we don't find any charges of any relevance against the Secretary of Homeland Security and we're going to acquit him.
	We don't have the votes especially after the 22 Fake Republican traitors who voted for the 93 billion dollars for every country except America.
	So you won't get a conviction in the Senate either.
	But here's the real point.
	Even if we had the numbers, even if we had the Senate, and we prosecuted, tried, and removed from office perhaps one of the most heinous members of the Biden administration, that's not the real point.
	Whether he stays in office or not.
	Why?
	Because of what's happened in the last four weeks in America.
	Whatever happens to Alejandro Mayorkas, whether he stays, whether he goes, they can't wash the migrant illegal crisis off their slate.
	When you have the likes of, I mean he's a complete Marxist, let's be honest, he's a schlub, he's a Marxist, and he's got cognitive issues.
	But when you've got the likes of Senator John Fetterman saying, I don't understand why my fellow Democrats can't call the border crisis a crisis.
	When you've got commentators on the docile mainstream lying legacy media likewise saying that we have a crisis and that Biden has to do something to fix it.
	This is a situation that will not be solved by impeachment or by this man staying in office.
	We have eight and a half, nine months left until the election.
	The economy, the border, and especially if there is a terrorist attack that is linked to the open borders, that is going to be exclusively on the shoulders of Joe Biden.
	They cannot wash their hands of that.
	So, yes, it's a good thing, especially, thank you, Speaker Johnson, you did your part.
	But at the end of the day, it's a crisis of their own creation that they cannot distance themselves from.
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	Thank you.
	Okay.
	I hate this crime porn.
	If you don't know anything, stop showing the parade.
	I mean, really, right?
	Just wait till you have something.
	It gets ratings because it's football related.
	Well, it's active crime and football.
	Can you play me cards?
	Give me 19 and then 18.
	New CBS poll out shows that Donald Trump is 35 points ahead of you now.
	He's increased his lead.
	And here's a question I have.
	We're just a little more than a week away from South Carolina.
	At the moment, it looks like you're going to go into that contest and lose badly in your home state, which would forever be a cloud over your political career.
	Why go through with it?
	So first of all, that's what they said before New Hampshire and I got 43% of the vote.
	Our polls do not show that.
	That is not what we're seeing and we're going to close that gap.
	We need to understand what we are staring down in this country.
	If Donald Trump is elected president of the United States, we do not know if there will be a verifiable next election that has integrity.
	He already tried to, we saw on January 6th, he tried to overturn the results of a presidential election by force, by inciting a riot.
	And I, you know, I think we need to be very, very realistic about the grave, grave impacts of a Donald Trump election.
	It is not a joke.
	It is not a game.
	We need to protect our democracy and ideally it's going to be on progressive values.
	Hang on, I'm confused.
	She called January 6th a riot.
	It's a riot now?
	What?
	Notice that she's just kind of vanished from like the political scene.
	I know!
	Why is that?
	She got browbeaten into submission by Pelosi.
	That's why you have lefties screaming at her town halls now that she's become part of the machine.
	Come in with Hayley.
	Hayley cut in 19.
	19.
	19.
	Mm-hmm.
	30 seconds.
	20.
	30 seconds.
	A new CBS poll shows that Donald Trump is 35 points ahead of you now.
	He's increased his lead.
	And here's a question I have.
	We're just a little more than a week away from South Carolina.
	At the moment, it looks like you're going to go into that contest and lose badly in your home state, which would forever be a cloud over your political career.
	Why go through with it?
	So first of all, that's what they said before New Hampshire and I got 43% of the vote.
	Our polls do not show that.
	That is not what we're seeing and we're going to close that gap.
	She's not very bright, is she?
	Hey, Eric, who won in New Hampshire?
	That would be President Trump.
	So what's the point of saying, I lost in New Hampshire, therefore I can lose in South Carolina?
	What does that mean?
	We are at exponential levels of cope here from Nikki Haley to not even try to say, oh, I won.
	She can't even say, oh, I had a surprise victory.
	Just straight up, oh, I got 43%.
	OK, you still lost.
	What's your prize for that?
	It doesn't answer... I mean, good for Roberts for asking that question.
	It doesn't answer the question.
	If you lose in your own state, that is something you can't recover from politically.
	And she says, well, we'll close the gap.
	But you still lose!
	It's like that line from, you know, The Rock, you know, winners...
	Do something and the losers whine about doing their best.
	Okay, I need to keep giving you this information from this this blockbuster reports from a Taibi Schellenberger and a Guten tag.
	So proceeding to discuss the targeting of 26 Americans illegally by the CIA under John Brennan telling our foreign liaison services, that's a technical term for organizations
	like MI6, GCHQ, Australian intelligence and so forth, that's illegal.
	You can't do things that are unconstitutional by asking other people to do it for you.
	That's a crime.
	The evidence suggests that Brennan's CIA and intelligence community did much more than
	merely pass on details about contacts and interactions between Russian officials and
	citizens involved in the Trump campaign to the FBI.
	We are still reading from the summary of the article in The Federalist by Margot Cleveland.
	The evidence suggests that the CIA and the intelligence community writ large, including the intelligence communities of the UK, Italy and Australia, created the contacts and the interactions that they then reported to the FBI as suspicious.
	That's like intelligence community racketeering.
	Do you know what racketeering is, Jeff?
	Well, you grew up in where?
	New Jersey?
	Philly?
	Where'd you grow up?
	Yeah, they taught it in school.
	Yeah, you had racketeering 101, right?
	Yeah.
	So, can you define racketeering?
	It's basically like an organized threatening crime, right?
	Right.
	So, you know, Giuseppe or Paddy goes to the local deli owner Nice plate glass window you have there.
	Be ashamed if something happened to it.
	We'll make sure nobody breaks your window.
	Racketeering.
	I didn't realize this until recently.
	I thought it was just like mob activity.
	Racketeering is when you threaten to create the situation that you say you will solve if somebody pays you.
	That's the technical thing about racketeering.
	That's what Obama His Vice President, Joe Biden.
	His Director of the CIA, John Brennan.
	And then later, afterwards, Jim Comey at the FBI did.
	There was no Russia collusion in the Trump campaign.
	None.
	So what did they do?
	They asked the MI6 agents.
	They asked GCHQ, British Signals Intelligence.
	Hey, will you create contacts?
	Will you, quote, bump into members of the Trump campaign in pubs in the UK and in Italy, elsewhere, and then report what you heard back to us through official channels, and then we'll use that as a pretext to issue warrants Secret warrants to spy on them here.
	You created the excuse to surveil 26 US nationals who hadn't done anything but because the British told you or the Australians or the Italians you said, well, we've got to open an investigation.
	Margot continues to name names, which is great.
	The known entities of this apparent conspiracy included Stephen Halper, an American confidential human source informant for the FBI, who, as I wrote in The Federalist, worked at Cambridge University alongside Sir Richard Dearlove.
	Hmm, funky name.
	Who's Sir Richard Dearlove?
	He's the former director of the British intelligence service MI6.
	And Christopher Andrew, the official historian for the British counterintelligence agency MI5.
	It has long been known that Stefan Halper reached out, reached out, he reached out, he's an FBI asset living in England.
	FBI asset living in England reaches out to several members of the Trump campaign As Crossfire Hurricane, the operation against the campaign, warms up.
	However, Halper's efforts to ingratiate himself began before the official launch of Operation Crossfire Hurricane.
	This is where it gets really interesting.
	In July of 2016, Stefan Halper approached Carter Page, Trump campaign advisor, at a conference in Cambridge.
	Why would you do that?
	Because you'd been told to do that.
	So that you can later report to the FBI, I met this guy and you know he's an expert on Russia and now he's advising the Trump campaign.
	And then they say, oh really?
	Well, there's a guy who works for Hillary Clinton called Christopher Steele, a former MI6 agent who says there are dodgy connections between Trump and Russia.
	We better have some secret FISA warrant surveillance against Carter Page, Mike Flynn, Paul Manafort.
	And so it begins.
	By planting spurious leads with our foreign intelligence allies, we have the biggest tri-service intelligence campaign ever against a domestic presidential candidate in his campaign.
	This makes Watergate look like A tiff in the sandpit in the kindergarten.
	We're going to dissect it all with Matt Taibbi, one of the men responsible for this reporting, in the third hour of the show.
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	We are not going to let them take us away from them.
	We are going to let them take us away from them.
	Set it aside. Set the court aside.
	Set it aside.
	You support genocide.
	Set the court aside.
	Set the court aside.
	You support genocide.
	What was that, Eric?
	That looked a little rowdy.
	What was that?
	That was the, of course, election night victory for congressman-elect Suozi, who won the election for Santos' old seat in New York.
	And some crazy lady with a Palestine, quote-unquote, flag charges onto the stage, gets within inches of his face, screaming the word genocide.
	But he's a Democrat, isn't he?
	Apparently he's not left-wing enough for that person.
	Wow.
	Crazy, crazy, crazy.
	Let's go to Mike Williamsport, Pennsylvania, line two.
	Good afternoon, Dr. Gorka.
	Hi.
	Before I make my comment, I want to preface it by saying that I think that Secretary Mayorkas is a vile piece of human excrement that is completely faithless and could be charged, indicted, tried, and then sent to prison.
	But I don't understand.
	We've spent time, money, political effort, political currency to impeach Mr. Mayorkas, and I don't see that anything is going to change as a result of it.
	I could be wrong, sir, but that's just the way I see it.
	And I'm in no way shape of my... No, I get it, I get it.
	Look, I agree with your exegesis.
	He is a pile of human excrement.
	And nothing significant will result in his impeachment.
	But it's like sending up a flare.
	It's a sign, okay?
	He is the most evil member of the cabinet.
	He knows how many women and children are being abused, raped.
	He knows how many people are dying of fentanyl poisoning.
	We have to send some signals.
	So God bless Speaker Johnson.
	God bless those who voted to impeach him.
	And at least it sends a message that we're watching you.
	We've got our eye on you.
	But it only gets solved.
	How, Mike?
	It only gets solved when we get President Trump back in the White House.
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	you you
	you Just do the math.
	Of course we have national minimum wages that we need to raise to a living wage.
	You're talking about $20, $25, fine.
	But I have got to be focused on what California needs and what the affordability factor is when we calculate this
	wage.
	She's a genius, that woman.
	A genius.
	Why would you choose to worship a creator god who forbade man to actually eat from the... I had to run and check.
	Do you know, we hit them very hard for something that they did, and they had to hit back.
	They feel they have... So I gotta ask, Jen, because maybe you know a little more than me.
	What is going on with Tom McClintock?
	They said, so I talked to somebody about that, and they said that he explained that it was constitutional, and he's a constitutional scholar, and he feels that this would have been a bad precedence, and he couldn't in good conscience vote for it.
	Tom McClintock, the other guy who voted to save Mayorkas.
	Yeah.
	Which is weird because he's conservative.
	He is conservative.
	And so I was stunned when I saw his name on the list.
	I can't imagine.
	I know.
	My first thought is maybe he's just bitter after a career of constantly losing statewide races by such narrow margins.
	But why would you do it in that?
	I mean, why would you blow it all up and make... I mean, they look like ding-dongs for not... Yeah.
	Not ho-hos?
	For carrying out that vote.
	Twinkies.
	Not ho-hos.
	Ding-dongs.
	Happy Valentine's Day!
	Yes!
	To you!
	Look how pink you are!
	I am pink today.
	Had to.
	I love it.
	Oh, let's record this line, Alex.
	Ready?
	One minute.
	You good?
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	Thank you.
	This is beautiful.
	Thank you.
	45 seconds.
	What should we talk about?
	$50 an hour minimum wage, people jumping off of buildings in downtown LA.
	What?
	Parachuting off of buildings.
	And Karen Bass said, you know, that's not a great idea to do that.
	So we're going to build a fence.
	Cue the irony.
	Oh my gosh.
	All right.
	We'll have some fun.
	You're listening to a story.
	You're listening to America First with Scott Tilley.
	You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald
	to the president. I'm Tom She is our Salem Forever Valentine.
	She looks radiant today.
	Is it pink?
	Is it salmon?
	Is it fuchsia?
	I don't know that stuff.
	It just looks pretty to me.
	She's the host of The Morning Answer in L.A.
	It is, of course, a.m.
	870, a.m.
	590.
	Jennifer Horne, happy Valentine's Day.
	Happy Valentine's Day to you, and I would think that this is like a coral.
	Coral!
	See, I knew I had it wrong because the fuchsia, rose, coral, salmon.
	It's just pink, right?
	Well, for a guy.
	For a guy, it's pink.
	For a guy, it's just pink, I think.
	That qualifies.
	But yeah, I had to do a little festive stuff for you guys today.
	I mean, come on, it's Valentine's Day, and plus, any excuse to wear pink is good with me.
	All right.
	Sparkles, pink and sparkles.
	That is her trademark.
	It's my love language.
	We can talk about serious stuff.
	We can talk about funny stuff.
	We can talk about insane stuff.
	I've had a pretty heavy first hour.
	It's going to be a heavy third hour because we've got Matt Taibbi to talk about the final confirmation that 26 Americans were illegally spied upon by Obama's CIA because they worked the Trump campaign.
	So guys, we'll have a little bit of a sign wave.
	Let's have a little bit of fun right now.
	But first, I've got to show you this from TikTok.
	Because I don't know if I believe it.
	Cut 17.
	Hi, my name is Asa.
	I am a member of a DID system and I'm also a bearded vulture therian.
	I have two questions.
	One is for other therians, specifically bird therians, and the other question is for other systems who have therian system members.
	So first question for other bird therians, what are some things you do that help you feel more connected to your theriotype?
	Like, I know that for people whose theriotypes are four-legged, they can do quadrobics, and that helps them a lot.
	But obviously that's not applicable to bird therians.
	I also want to clarify for anyone who doesn't know, quadrobics does not automatically equal therians.
	People can do quadrobics and not be a therian.
	So that's my first question, how to feel more connected to bird theriotypes.
	And second question is for systems with therian alters.
	Do these alters appear human in a world, or do they appear as their theriotype in a world?
	Or is it kind of a combo situation?
	Like, we have someone in our system who is both a guy and a vulture at the same time.
	We don't consider him a therian because he doesn't consider himself a therian.
	He just kind of exists as both of those things at once.
	Is that how therian alters work in you guys' systems?
	Just very curious about how other people experience this kind of thing.
	I'm curious, Jen, where do you stand on quadrobics and therian systems as it relates to vultures?
	I'm a theriotype from way back.
	I think I am half unicorn, half woman.
	What in the world?
	I actually had to look up what she was talking about.
	So what she's saying, that people, this is not comic book stuff, she's saying that people in real life are half man, half vulture, or half bird, half man, or half animal, half man.
	I looked the word up at the same time you did.
	So she says, I'm a bearded vulture Therian.
	Well, A, you don't have a beard.
	B, you don't have any wings.
	And I looked up Therian.
	Therian is the marsupial group, like kangaroos.
	So what in God's name have vultures got to do with marsupials?
	Let's be honest here.
	In a prior age, before 1970, before that Supreme Court ruling, That woman would be on lithium in a rubber room, wouldn't she?
	And probably appropriately.
	I mean, the fact that this is the kind of normal that we've created.
	I mean, this is it's funny to watch because you just have to shake your head and go, what is she talking about?
	But what's really not funny is that we've done so much where we just accept and say, oh, people should just be allowed to be who they are and feel how they are.
	Now we've got people identifying as kangaroo bearded vultures.
	I mean, it just doesn't.
	It doesn't make any sense. At some point we have to not be afraid to say that is not normal,
	that is not what you are, you seem to be a girl with a questionable hair color,
	like let's just go with that. Right, so and you know to be serious for a second,
	we have to do one thing. These people are indoctrinated idiots or they're people who
	need psychiatric assistance. There's no in between. Either you're, you know, you need
	psychiatric help or you're just an idiot, right?
	Yes and I think the fact that there are a group of now idiot parents who hear their kids say this and they don't correct that behavior is very problematic and I think that's that's where we really have to like dive in and this can be a serious topic actually because you dive in and go what's going on inside the American family.
	Are parents afraid to correct their kids when they come out like this because they don't want to be labeled bad parents?
	I mean, if that's your kid, what's the first thing you do, Sab?
	You go to them and say, uh, we need to have chat.
	This is not normal behavior.
	Right.
	Talk about not normal behavior.
	Jumping off buildings shouldn't be normal behavior.
	What's happening closer to your home, Jen?
	So in downtown Los Angeles, there are a group of skyscraper buildings that are 25 stories, maybe more.
	And one of the stories last week, and maybe you even had seen some of the images because it was going around on social media, but they were graffitying.
	each and every layer, like all the way up to the sky, 25 stories high, there's graffiti all over
	everything. So that started to get some attention. Well, now it's been revealed that people are
	actually jumping off the top of these buildings and they are parachuting down off the top of the
	building. Just for fun. Apparently, and for social media, I would imagine.
	I say let Darwinism play out and let survival play out.
	My friend Chris Plante has this catchphrase, every day is an IQ test.
	But somebody's come up with a rather ironic solution, Jen.
	Yeah, so Karen Bass actually held a press conference yesterday.
	Karen Bass, former congresswoman and now current mayor of Los Angeles, actually held a press conference yesterday explaining to the people of Los Angeles that jumping off of these tall buildings is not a great idea.
	And she even said, Seb, hold on to your hat.
	Someone may get hurt.
	Okay.
	Now, Captain Obvious over here, who I like to call Care Bear because she's just she's really out to lunch, has decided that the remedy to this is not saying, hey, don't climb those buildings or you'll be arrested, or hey, we're going to put up security up there to prevent you from jumping off the side of these buildings.
	Instead, Get this, she's ready to build a fence.
	But the fence is going to take a few days.
	But once that fence is up there, then no one will be able to jump off those buildings.
	And so it made me wonder, when we were talking about securing the border and President Trump building a border wall when Karen Bass was in Congress, did she support that border wall?
	Did she support the fence?
	No, but apparently a fence will work to keep people off the top of buildings.
	But and of course remember the story from what like 18 months ago that Biden was selling the steel that was going to be used to build the border that we already paid for during the Trump administration so maybe Maybe she can get a good deal for Biden.
	She can get a discount.
	What's interesting though, and this is just sort of hit me, there was a story about one of our city councilmen.
	Maybe you heard about it.
	It's a local story, but national implications whenever there is scandal.
	His name was Jose Huizar, and he was a guy who was on the city council who just got convicted for bribery and all these different charges.
	He was taking money.
	In a paper sack, literally thousands of dollars, in a paper sack that he was hiding in his closet.
	Because you know, this is where Democrats hide their money.
	They put it in a paper bag and put it in their closet.
	That seems to be a trend.
	And so he got in trouble for this.
	And what I learned is that he was signing off on permits for a company based in China who was building all of these big towers downtown LA.
	It kind of hit me today that maybe ever since Jose Wazir actually got convicted in Los Angeles, maybe that's why these towers are sitting open, because the Chinese company that he was working with pulled out of them.
	And so I think this is actually all connected.
	I think the gravy train for the Chinese Communist Party building these big, tall towers ended when the corruption got stopped.
	And so that's why these places are empty and able to be graffitied and people can go skydiving off of them.
	We've only got 90 seconds left in this segment, but you know, you mentioned the border.
	I talked jokingly about the steel that Biden sold.
	We've had a caller who said it makes no difference what happened last night.
	I think it's important.
	We shot a flare up and we said Alejandro Mayorkas, we've impeached you.
	What's your take on what happened last night, even if he doesn't get convicted?
	He won't get convicted.
	I don't believe.
	I don't believe he'll be removed.
	And I don't think it solves a lot because the ideology exists within the Biden administration and whoever is running the place.
	But I think it's important because it makes people talk about it and it forces the news to cover the issue at the border, which they have been trying desperately to ignore.
	Yeah, it just piles on to their crisis that they created that now they're having to spin.
	We are talking to Jennifer Horne, co-host of The Morning Answer with Jen and Grant.
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	I have a friend, so I grew up with this friend who had, what is it here in America, it's
	called the schwing.
	In England it was called the chopper.
	It was the bicycle that had the small wheel at the front, the big wheel at the back.
	It looked like, oh yeah, it was Schwing Stingray, I think it was here.
	He was the coolest cat I knew.
	We were like five-year-olds together.
	And he left the UK I think after I did but in the 90s he ended up in Holland and then a few years ago we tracked each other down on Facebook and this guy is a tax specialist he's not an attorney he's like a tax whatever advisor in Holland married to a Dutch girl beautiful little daughters And then I'm looking at his Facebook and we start texting with each other.
	He says, yeah, yeah, I'm into skydiving.
	I've done 900 jumps.
	That's not a hobby.
	That's like, that's a disease.
	My mate Richard, 9... voluntary 900 jumps.
	Ugh, I don't know.
	Grant told me today that he wanted me to go for the show and jump off one of the buildings downtown.
	I was like, you first.
	And he's like, no, no, no.
	And I said, come on, you're the big alpha guy.
	And he said, no, I'll pay you to do it.
	I was like, no.
	My son did it in Australia.
	He did a tandem jump.
	Didn't he love it?
	Well, he filmed it.
	He did a film of him screaming as he's tandem jumping.
	But he wants to do it again.
	He wants to do it again.
	I told him, if you jump, you have to say yahoo, like in the old cartoons, remember, in the Roadrunner?
	I love that stuff.
	Penelope Pitstop!
	You look like Penelope Pitstop in pink today!
	Penelope Pitstop?
	Who's that?
	Wacky Races!
	The heroine of Wacky Races, Dastardly and Motley.
	You don't know who Dastardly and- Wacky Racist?
	Wacky- No, no, we're not talking about Biden.
	We're not talking about Wacky Races, Biden.
	Okay, we're about the same age.
	Do you not know who Dastardly and Motley are?
	No.
	All right, Alex, get me Dastardly and Mutley right now.
	I'm looking it up.
	Dastardly and Mutley.
	Mutley the laughing dog.
	Come on.
	Oh, Dastardly and Mutley.
	Let's see.
	Yeah.
	Wacky Races.
	Penelope Pitstop.
	I know more about American culture than you guys do.
	This is embarrassing.
	This was a little bit before my time, I think.
	I know.
	I said I'm older than you, but you know.
	A little bit.
	But reruns.
	I mean, you've seen Star Trek.
	Was this with, like, Yogi Bear?
	That's it.
	That's it.
	That's Mötley.
	Come in with Mötley.
	This is news to me.
	No, no.
	I'll tee it up.
	I'll tee up Mötley.
	That's great.
	They look very cute.
	They look very cute. I like Muttley.
	Coming with the whole thing.
	Just coming with the whole thing.
	That's too good.
	Oh, Penelope Pitstop.
	Yeah, you're Penelope Pitstop.
	Yeah, in pink today.
	Right?
	Love it.
	She's the heroine.
	And they're trying to catch her the whole time.
	And, you know, Dastardly was putting, you know, booby traps and everything.
	Oh, so they're the bad guys.
	Your childhood must have been so secluded.
	It was so boring.
	I start, like, I start with, like, the Smurfs.
	What else did I have?
	The Smurfs.
	Scooby-Doo.
	So you are young.
	Classic.
	You are young.
	This, let's see, Smurf, Scooby-Doo, what else was good?
	How come there's only one female Smurf?
	That's why I want to know.
	I know.
	I mean, she was outnumbered.
	I know, but she was sexy.
	Smurfette was sexy.
	And Handy always seemed to really like her.
	You know, he was the dumbest.
	He was just a little bit of a jerk.
	He was a little bit of a jerk.
	And he was a little bit of a jerk.
	That's the dog at the end laughing and I'm just absolutely horrified.
	Nobody in my studio and my interlocutor, my cruise buddy for our Alaska Patriots clues.
	Nobody knows what I'm talking about.
	I'm more American than all of you.
	All of you combined.
	I, with my funny accent, wacky races, dastardly and motley, and our real-life Penelope Pitstop, Jennifer Horn.
	I know you're a young spring chicken, but how do you not know about, I mean, on reruns like Scooby-Doo and Captain Caveman and the Flintstones, this is Americana.
	Who's Captain Caveman?
	What?
	Who's Captain Caveman?
	I know the Flintstones.
	Obviously, I watch them.
	Captain Caveman!
	You seriously don't...
	Okay.
	No clue.
	For the next hour, I'm just going to talk about my childhood.
	All right.
	I have an idea, though.
	Maybe on the cruise, we should have cartoon screenings.
	We should have cartoon screenings analyzed in geopolitical significance.
	We can do both.
	We can do both.
	And then shouldn't we have like a dress up as your favorite cartoon?
	Eric, don't look so depressed.
	Okay, this is fun.
	Dress up as your favorite cartoon character.
	That I would love.
	Who would be yours?
	Captain Caveman!
	He has, like, this brontosaurus skin, like a toga, and a big club.
	That's Captain Caveman.
	Ah.
	We should do that.
	We should have a dress-up night.
	I like that.
	Some people think dress-up night, and they think, like, fancy sequence.
	We should have a dress-up as your favorite character.
	Wonder Woman, Penelope.
	I can see, Jeff, you're really excited about this topic.
	Am I right?
	So you want to have a Halloween night?
	Yeah.
	About our childhood!
	Right?
	It's about our childhood.
	Hey, does Jeff know?
	Jeff and I are about the same age.
	Jeff didn't have a childhood.
	We have agreed that Jeff did not have a childhood.
	He came out of the womb fully formed at about age 15.
	I heard of that cartoon when you brought it up 10 minutes ago.
	You did?
	No, when you brought it up.
	That's the first time I've ever heard of it.
	Me too.
	Jen, you know Hillary's re-education cams?
	We're going to do these.
	I'm going to have education camps for my team.
	You will watch Wacky Races for the next 12 hours.
	We're going to have like the matchsticks, the little eye things from Clockwork Orange, and you will watch Hannah and Barbera.
	Oh, the best of all, my favorite, and yes, I'm going off on a tangent, tough, it's my show.
	Oh my gosh, the banana splits.
	Size of an elephant!
	Another one I've never heard of.
	Only from you!
	I had to look them up because you've talked about the banana splits before.
	Do the music, Alex.
	Just play the banana music.
	It has a good theme, doesn't it?
	Yeah.
	Tralala, la la la la, tralala, la la la la, tralala, la la la la.
	But it's got some words.
	One banana, two banana, three banana, four banana.
	It's complicated.
	Okay, stop it.
	Our listeners are gonna go nuts on this.
	They've got really good taste like me.
	But if you do... You know, Common Core Math outlawed that song.
	That's not how they count anymore.
	That's racist!
	You can't count to four!
	That's racist!
	That's right.
	What's wrong with you?
	You can't count bananas.
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	Have you looked at the boat, Jen?
	Yes.
	Katie just showed me the boat.
	It is like, It's like the Queen's boat or something.
	It is gorgeous.
	She's the one that turned me on to it too.
	She said that you were looking, they were looking for the gym or something and she said so she started investigating the boat and then when she told me about that I thought well I got to do it.
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	What else must we discuss with our fair maiden?
	Did somebody just whisper in my ear?
	Oh!
	A ladies topic!
	How about this?
	I love this.
	This is genius.
	Even though Rona Romney McDaniel will be clawing.
	She'll be trying to stay on.
	Desperately.
	We have a plan.
	This is Lara Trump on Newsmax with what to do with the RNC.
	Cut 11!
	The RNC needs to be the leanest, most lethal political fighting machine we've ever seen in American history.
	That is the goal over the next nine and a half months.
	If I am elected to this position, I can assure you there will not be any more $70,000 or whatever exorbitant amount of money it was spent on flowers.
	Every single penny will go to the number one and the only job of the RNC.
	That is electing Donald J. Trump as President of the United States
	and saving this country. We have no time to waste.
	We've got to get to work. We've got a lot of money to raise and we need to ensure
	that every penny goes to those things that I just mentioned. Otherwise, you're
	right, in perpetuity the Democrats are going to beat us.
	When I get callers saying how do I support President Trump and MAGA, I say don't give a stinking penny
	to the RNC.
	Give it to individual candidates the President's endorsed, or go to his website, donaldjtrump.com.
	But if Lara Trump is the co-chair, that's a different kind of RNC.
	Do you concur, madam?
	I do.
	And I also love that she said it will be like the lean-mean fighting machine, right?
	That's what you need these groups to be.
	And in fact, it was my friend Jennifer Van Laar who's been on this program with you from Red State who really went line by line to see what the RNC was spending money on.
	Yeah, it's ridiculous.
	It's makeup people and massages and flowers.
	Stuff that is not going to turn out the vote.
	And if you look at the Democrats side-by-side, they aren't spending any money on that.
	They're spending it on their get-out-the-vote effort.
	They're spending it on recruiting and research and trying to get more people out there.
	So, we need to match what they're doing.
	We need to stop with the niceties.
	I love flowers like the next girl, but hit up Trader Joe's.
	They're $10.
	You don't have to spend $70,000 on them.
	And I really appreciate the fact that this would be run like a business, because it is... I tell my listeners the same thing.
	I tell people that listen to the program, donate to the candidate you love.
	Donate to the campaign that you love, because we can't trust the Republican Party now.
	But that's not great.
	We need a party apparatus that is serving its voters and serving the people.
	I hate to shut them down, but you can't trust where the money's going.
	So it would be nice to know that someone who has been involved in a business before would actually be able to go in there and realize that the goal is going to be saving the country and getting good candidates elected rather than sending your friends nice gift baskets filled with high-end candles.
	Yeah, and what she said at the beginning, lean, mean, fighting machine.
	Have you seen any of her videos from her when she's at the gym?
	Oh my gosh, you want to talk about a lean, mean fighting machine?
	Holy smokes!
	Yeah, that is a warrior woman like yourself.
	So I love the idea.
	I think his campaign manager or one of the campaign managers would also come over as a chief operating officer.
	Just reading that today.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Then we can start to try and rebuild Patriots' trust in the RNC.
	So, sorry Rona, your time is up.
	Losing, you know, eight elections should be enough.
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	sebastiangawker.substack.com It would probably be Scooby-Doo.
	Why is Scooby-Doo so much fun?
	I don't know why.
	I just used to love that it was a mystery.
	I used to just love it and you know that was kind of the the jam.
	I liked the Smurfs a lot.
	I used to watch the Flintstones.
	Okay, so here is the question that divides all Americans.
	Yes.
	Where do you stand on Scrappy Doo?
	Oh, I think we've talked about this.
	We have.
	I need Rumble to hear where you stand on Scrappy or whether you want to stand on his head.
	I actually think I prefer the OGs.
	I like the original.
	But I can't say that I hated Scrappy Dappy.
	He just needed to be kicked every once in a while.
	He was a little over the top.
	But you liked him, right?
	I have no issue with him because Scooby Doo, let's be honest, he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, right?
	No.
	Him and Shaggy, they need a little bit of pizzazz and a little bit of, you know...
	The sparkle.
	Just in life.
	Yeah.
	My favorite one was when Jerry Reed was stuck in the- remember the singer?
	He was stuck in like a, I don't know, in a basement somewhere and he played his guitar and they followed the guitar to try to rescue him.
	You remember that one?
	Oh, I don't remember that.
	I don't remember that.
	That was a good one.
	I loved Scooby-Doo.
	I loved Scooby-Doo.
	Where did our bass jumper go?
	Is he jumped off a building?
	He jumped.
	He jumped.
	Has he got a cell phone?
	Can't he, like, call us while he's in there?
	That's so sad.
	I've never spoken to one.
	Call back, buddy.
	You know the number.
	That's crazy.
	833-33-GORKA.
	Oh, we didn't mention the event.
	All right.
	Next time.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's OK.
	And what else?
	I don't know.
	That's it.
	Happy Valentine's Day.
	I like your glasses.
	Thank you.
	I've been wearing them more and more lately, ever since I've been aging.
	No, they're cute.
	They're cute.
	All right.
	Happy Valentine's.
	See you guys.
	Happy Valentine's Day.
	See you next week.
	Thank you, Jen.
	Bye.
	All right.
	Title for that one.
	Best cartoon characters.
	Yeah.
	The best cartoon character of my childhood.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, the chat was going nuts.
	Someone said Space Ghost.
	Space Ghost!
	Classic!
	Several people said Johnny Quest.
	I'm proud of that.
	Johnny Quest.
	It's a little bit before my time, but it's excellent.
	It's excellent.
	It's like the Jetsons.
	That was Katie's favorite before my time.
	Is there any child's program you liked, Geoff?
	I know I hated Scooby-Doo.
	Is there anything that wasn't hippie in that?
	That girl?
	Yes, Freddie!
	Shaggy, the bus?
	No, none of them were hippies.
	Shaggy was the hippie.
	The whole show was a hippie.
	That stupid VW bus.
	You mean the mystery machine!
	Shaggy, the girl with the liberal glasses.
	That's all I remember.
	The liberal glasses.
	Oh my gosh.
	Fred with his ascot?
	Yeah, the hippie ascot, right.
	This is so hippie to have an ascot.
	Well, I told you who voices Shaggy, right?
	Casey Kasem.
	Oh, that's right.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	It's the greatest.
	Oh, gosh.
	Too good.
	Too good.
	All right, we've got so many.
	Oh, come in with 13.
	Too funny.
	Come in with 13.
	Shaggy.
	I mean, real talk, a few episodes of Johnny Quest gave me nightmares as a kid.
	Oh, really?
	Some of those episodes with monsters in them?
	Oh.
	Never heard of it.
	I'm coming in with 13.
	You're welcome.
	You're welcome.
	I admire her confidence.
	I admire her confidence.
	less by...
	That was The Five's in-house liberal who was talking about who?
	Talking about the Vice President Kamala Harris and Harold Ford said he's just so impressed with her and the rest of The Five just cracked up laughing, which is absolutely right.
	Got a lot of comments in the chat from our Rumble viewers regarding the last segment.
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	Update from Kansas City.
	The shooting in the proximity of the Super Bowl celebration.
	The injury number is up to 10.
	Two people taken into custody.
	I saw footage of one of them being handcuffed from behind.
	Looked as if he was a minority member.
	Not sure.
	Can't confirm that.
	But really weird.
	And I don't want to Propagate conspiracy theories, but lots of feds everywhere, which is you know when there's an emergency active shooter Everybody rolls in to help, but I saw numerous like half a dozen ATF agents
	So, civilian clothes, with their body armor, and on the back it said ATF police.
	I need to look into that.
	What is the ATF doing at the celebration for the Super Bowl victory in Kansas City, unless there's some big ATF office nearby?
	We'll find out whether that is the case.
	Your calls coming in thick and fast, 833-33 Gorka, that's 833.
	3, 3, 4, 6, 7, 5, 2.
	Let's have one cut before we go to your calls.
	This is from Jesse Warder's show, and if it is indicative of the black vote in America, all I'm going to say is, wow!
	Cut 10.
	Joe Biden or Donald Trump?
	Trump.
	He's not the best person in the world, but better than who's in office right now.
	Donald Trump.
	Why?
	Because he keeps it real.
	Even though if he hates people, he's going to let you know, but he still won't get the job done.
	I love Donald Trump.
	Bring back Uncle Trump.
	Bring him back?
	Yeah, we need some more stimulus.
	What do you think about Joe Biden?
	He's tired.
	What has he done for us so far?
	We're in inflation.
	He calls it shrinkflation.
	Oh, where's it shrinking at?
	How are you going to say that you're going to do this and do that for all the people, and then you go back on your word?
	How is Joe Biden doing for the country?
	That was the best.
	How's my dick?
	Keeping it real!
	Trump!
	Uncle Trump!
	We might need a t-shirt.
	Bring back Uncle Trump.
	I love it.
	So cool.
	Alright, let's go to your calls.
	Line 1, Randy, Knoxville.
	Hey, good afternoon, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey!
	Hey, I wanted to ask you, as a guy who was raised in England, Great Britain, I was listening to your colleague Hugh Hewitt this morning.
	Are you ringing up to annoy me?
	What's Hugh done now?
	He had Mike Gallagher, the congressman who's taken off resigning this morning.
	And Hugh, I've always been interested in the Arthurian legends.
	And he compared Mike Gallagher to the perilous seat at the table, the round table of the knights that Merlin reserved for the knight who would one day find the Holy Grail.
	And Hugh said that that is Mike Gallagher.
	He is pure of heart.
	And he is going, I guess, in the search of the Holy Grail or something.
	I was just, I wanted to run it past you, because I've always been interested, you know, the once and future king
	and all that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So what do you think of your colleague Hugh Hewitt comparing him to Percival and Sir Galahad?
	I have no idea what Hugh is on, whether somebody dropped a roofie in his tea this morning.
	I have no idea.
	Really? Arthurian legend?
	I know you call in to agitate me, Randy.
	I'm going to have to listen.
	I'm going to have to listen to that interview, because I'm sorry, Mike Gallagher has...
	I think he's gone against everything he vouched safe.
	It's an incredibly disappointing performance from somebody who used to work for me when he was a young major in the Marine Corps.
	Absolutely disappointing.
	I don't know, Randy.
	I'm a radio show host, and you leave me speechless, and that's not good.
	But thank you!
	I'll look into it.
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	5-15 for bowling tonight, by the way.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Can you show me 15, please?
	Cut 15.
	Yup.
	Now he has decided he has fired the RNC chair, he's named who's going to be the new RNC chair, his daughter-in-law will be the co-chair, and he is making his campaign manager the officer that runs the party.
	Think about what's happening right now.
	Is that how you're gonna try and take an election?
	Uh, give me... Uh, what have I not seen?
	Oh, play me 12 again.
	Twelve.
	Donald Trump, with what he's talking about dealing with Russia, if Russia were to start invading Europe, that would start World War III, by the way.
	Donald Trump is talking about that and setting the stage.
	You can be sure every single world leader, other than Vladimir Putin, saw that and said there is no way America can have him back as president.
	What a putz.
	What a putz.
	Play me 14 again.
	I talk to President Biden, you know, regularly, or sometimes several times in a week or usually several times in a week.
	His mental acuity is great.
	It's fine.
	It's as good as it's been over the years.
	I've been speaking to him for 30 years since we worked on the Brady Bill and the assault weapons ban when I was a young congressman.
	And he's fine.
	All this right-wing propaganda that his mental acuity has declined is wrong.
	Right-wing propaganda?
	That's delicious.
	Um...
	One minute.
	Okay.
	Want to use any of them here?
	Yeah, I'm going to use Noskovich and, um, cut 23.
	12 and 23.
	All right.
	Oh, come in with 14.
	Come in with 14.
	And then I'm going to ask Jeff a question.
	Okay.
	And I'm going to do Patriot Marble.
	Jeff and Patriot.
	You.
	I.
	I talk to President Biden, you know, regularly, or sometimes several times in a week, or usually several times in a week.
	His mental acuity is great.
	It's fine.
	It's as good as it's been over the years.
	I've been speaking to him for 30 years since we worked on the Brady Bill and the assault weapons ban when I was a young congressman.
	And he's fine.
	All this right-wing propaganda that his mental acuity has declined is wrong.
	Right-wing propaganda, right, because my lying eyes, they don't see it.
	Hey, Jeff, when the most senior Democrat in the Senate has to talk about the great mental acuity of Biden, what does that really mean?
	I think it's stupid for them to defend it because people can see it with their own eyes.
	Right!
	Like Scarborough pretending he doesn't know when his mother died.
	He's going to blow his credibility with whatever he has with his audience.
	People can remember that have lost appearance.
	They know that there's no way he forgets that, and it's going to blow up all the other lies that they tell.
	But doesn't it mean that they're really in trouble if he's having to say, oh, the senile person who everybody knows is senile isn't senile.
	You know what I like?
	What?
	For the first time almost every single day for the last month, the Democrats are on defense between the border and Biden.
	Oh, yes.
	You should tweet that out if you have an ex account.
	I don't know if you do.
	I have a Twitter, not an ex.
	That's a very good point.
	You should tweet that out.
	Okay.
	We've got to get back to your calls because so many people want to chime in on the topics of the day.
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	On the topic of the amazing mental acuity of the current incumbent of the White House, let's go to Chicago, Tom, line three.
	Dr. Gorka, thanks for taking the call, sir.
	Sure.
	So, Dr. Gorka, we're hearing a lot of BS from the left trying to make the argument that Trump is old, You know, obviously Biden making a fool out of himself at that press conference.
	They're trying to make the argument that Trump is only a couple years, President Trump, excuse me, is only a couple years younger.
	I was thinking, what would you think about a commercial that shows Joe Biden speaking 25 years ago and then speaking today and President Trump, even though he wasn't president then, giving some kind of speech 25 years ago and speaking today and see how he sounds almost identical?
	Yeah, I like it in principle.
	I don't think the campaign should do it, Tom, because it kind of puts President Trump on the defensive, saying, look, I'm fine.
	We don't need to do that.
	But I think the first part, showing Biden now and then, that's really excellent.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's offer Tom one of our two new T-shirts.
	The first one you guys came up with is just very simple.
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	Alright, on the shooting on Kansas City, Dave in Missouri, line four.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka, this is Dave.
	Yeah, I don't think it's an uncommon thing for ATF agents to be at an event that big.
	I've seen county fairs where they'll have ATF agents come in to curb, like, teenage drinking, that kind of stuff.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Curb teenage drinking?
	What?
	I've never seen an ATF agent dealing with drunken teenagers.
	That's a local law enforcement issue.
	They don't even have the manpower.
	Why would the feds be policing teenage drinking at a public event?
	I don't get that for a millisecond, Dave.
	Oh, no.
	I've been to county fairs, and I have a teenage son myself.
	And he's, you know, come over.
	Oh, Dad, there's ATF agents over there.
	And he had friends that were ticketed for trying to purchase alcohol at a fair.
	And I'm talking a small county fair.
	Well, that makes no sense to me because the ATF doesn't have capacity to do half of the jobs it's meant to do or has been given to do.
	But I'm open to hear from others.
	Thank you, Dave.
	Sounds strange to me, but thank you, Dave.
	And if they're there, what are they doing with ballistic vests as well?
	Sounds a little bit strange.
	John, San Diego, line two.
	Sebastian, I got a couple of things.
	First, any Republican who thinks that impeachment is a waste of time Has already forgotten the three and a half years that the Democrats have milked their impeachment of Trump.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Second, you're right, the swing stingray was the greatest bicycle ever made.
	Is that because you had one or you coveted one that your friend had?
	No, on my seventh birthday I got the one with the banana seat and 50 bar.
	Wow.
	Did you have the tassels on the end of the handlebars?
	No, no.
	I didn't have those.
	Did you have a third thing, John?
	Yeah, on the Banana Splits.
	Yeah, that was a great show.
	And the theme song, the Tra-La-La part, Bob Marley stole it for his Buffalo Soldiers song.
	And nobody cares, because the Buffalo Soldiers song is awesome.
	I'm gonna have to check that out.
	I know both songs.
	I know one of them very well.
	Did Bob Marley steal the Banana Spritz refrain of Tra La La from their theme?
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	...believe that the ATF would be at this particular parade, just because, I mean, it's the Super Bowl, you know, there's... Uh-huh.
	They're big celebrities, security reasons.
	I can kind of see it.
	Like, why do you want to, like, sweep for bombs at any parade?
	You know, like, Boston Marathon was bombed, or, you know, things like that.
	I can see it, maybe.
	Well, maybe not quite like that caller said, but... Is Missouri, is Kansas City very woke?
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	Daily Mail's got a picture of the guy that was arrested.
	Oh, two of them, right?
	It just says, they just have the picture of the one guy.
	Can you send it to me?
	I did.
	Now they say about 10 to 15 people injured.
	Oh, one person dead.
	God, there are the weirdest people out there.
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	No hate speech.
	Just happy warriors on America first.
	Who said it's just Harvard that's run by communists and racists and people who hate America?
	From the Daily Wire, Virginia Cruter.
	According to a report General Milley, the disgraced former chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who said he'd warn China in advance if President Trump wanted to take any military action against our greatest enemy, has been rewarded.
	By positions at both Princeton and Georgetown University, where he is, quote, going to assist them with their national security subjects.
	I guess assist the next generation in how to be treasonous, subversive, anti-American elements as well.
	Full disclosure, I had a position as an adjunct faculty at Georgetown myself.
	I taught on their National Security and Foreign Policy Master's program.
	I wouldn't have anything to do with them right now.
	An utter disgrace.
	Princeton and Georgetown, you have shown yourselves for who you are.
	It is Ash Wednesday.
	I just found this on social media.
	It's from an individual called John Lennox, who's a, I think he's a microbiologist, an ethicist, and my gosh, this is how you debate an atheist.
	Cut 21.
	Why would you choose to worship a Creator God who forbade man to actually eat from the tree of knowledge, one which you have obviously eaten from because you are a rather knowledgeable man, why would you choose to worship this sort of deity who would have kept you dumb?
	That's a very good question.
	I'll tell you why it's a good question.
	I notice it was asked originally by a snake.
	The answer to your question though is this.
	Is God, do I worship a God who wants to keep me down?
	Tell you the kind of God I worship.
	I worship the kind of God who made me in his image.
	and coded himself into humanity, came into our world to provide a basis through his death and resurrection that I could become something that I was not by creation.
	And that is a son of God.
	The notion that God is trying to keep us down is actually the original lie.
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	Next up, the story of the decade.
	Matt Taibbi here on America First.
	you you
	you I think there's plenty of evidence of collusion or conspiracy in plain sight.
	I did say that there is ample evidence, and indeed there is, of collusion of people in the Trump campaign with the Russians.
	He is going to be delivering what I think are going to be his indictments, the final indictments.
	I would not be surprised if there were a number of indictments that still were going to come down the pike.
	There are indictments in this president's future.
	And I think they're shocked that the noose is tightening.
	He feels the noose is tightening.
	The noose is tightening.
	The sound of hoofbeats of all those investigations catching up with Donald Trump must be loud in his ears.
	He may be the first president in quite some time to face the real prospect of jail time.
	People might go to jail.
	You're exactly right.
	For the rest of their lives.
	I think they're all going to jail.
	Well, I think they're all going to end up together in prison and maybe that's a good thing.
	He has no idea that he's going down.
	You're confident that at least some Trump associates will wind up in jail?
	If I was betting I would say yes.
	We could go on and on and on and we could play that, montages like that, not for hours but days.
	It's called the Russia hoax.
	Some people more accurately call it Obamagate, hat tip Dan Bongino.
	But now we have the incontrovertible proof.
	It's not just a sore story from six or seven years ago.
	Thanks to Our next guest and his colleagues, we now know that the plot against the president, to use the phrase my friend Lee Smith uses a title for one of his books, was generated by Obama, by John Brennan, by Jim Comey.
	Just one sentence from the article that is causing a blockbuster tectonic shakeup across Washington, D.C.
	and the broader political community, quote, President Barack Obama's CIA Director John Brennan had identified 26 Trump associates for the Five Eyes to target, meaning our intelligence allies in the English-speaking world.
	According to the journalists, a source has confirmed the intelligence community had, quote, identified those associates to bump or make contact with and to manipulate, thus providing an end run around the U.S.
	Constitution to spy against U.S.
	citizens without evidence of any guilt.
	Let's unpack it all with a man who, um, Well, he's done a great service to all those who believe in the truth over the last couple of years, especially with the Twitter files.
	Matt Taibbi, welcome to America First.
	Thanks so much for having me on.
	All right, so first, everybody needs to read the article.
	It's at the top of my Twitter feed.
	They need to go to racket.news, your substack.
	So I have to ask you, what's different about what you and Michael Schellenberger and your colleague Alex, is it Guten Tag, have given for us today?
	Because the likes of Mark Levin, Dan Bongino, Miranda Devine, John Solomon, Lee Smith, Sarah Carter have been talking about the exploitation of the intelligence community.
	But now you have a new source.
	Could you tell us what you have brought to the table?
	Because it is explosive.
	Yeah, all those people did excellent work and more.
	And there are plenty of other reporters who have done incredible work.
	Across the last eight years, exposing various parts of the story, I could name a dozen of them off the top of my head, from Chuck Ross to Aaron Maté to Margot Cleveland.
	I mean, there are a lot of people who did a lot of valuable work looking under the surface of allegations involving Trump and Russia.
	What we have that's different is We have sources who are close to the House Permanent Select Committee on Investigations who have direct knowledge of reports that were never
	Declassified.
	As you know, the HPSE investigators did very, very valuable work in producing what was known as the Nunes Memo in 2018.
	Now, that was denounced by everybody in major media, but it was vindicated a year later by the Barack Obama-appointed Inspector General of the Justice Department, Michael Horowitz.
	But only a share of that research got out.
	Some of it never left There was a small unit of that group that worked out of an office on the grounds of the CIA.
	They prepared reports about various things, including the construction of an intelligence community assessment, and that's still in a vault in the CIA.
	So the details about that and about the surveillance campaign that was conducted against members of the Trump campaign and associates of Trump For instance, the number 26, we were told 26 people were placed under surveillance.
	That's new.
	There are a number of new details, but you're right.
	You're absolutely right.
	This is, it's, you know, sort of icing on the top of a cake that has already been baked over the years by unrecognized investigators.
	Let me keep reading some quotes.
	This story is so hard to keep in one box because it's connected to Ukraine, it's connected to FISA, it's connected to Mike Flynn, Manafort, on and on and on.
	Quote, the United States intelligence community, the IC, including the Central Intelligence
	Agency, illegally mobilized foreign intelligence agencies to target Trump advisers long before
	the summer of 2016.
	So here's, you know, the key, maybe novel aspect on top of your new source, that we
	thought all of this started in 2016 with the end of the Obama administration, but now you
	have confirmation that the U.K., that Australia, that Italy were already targeting members
	of the Trump campaign back in March of 2016.
	What were they doing?
	It seems like a fishing expedition.
	to trawl for something that they could then report to Brennan, to the CIA, to Obama.
	Yes, there's something about these Trump guys.
	You should spy on them using your internal warrants.
	Is that as simple as it gets?
	Basically, you know, look, there were, there was a series of unusual news reports that came out
	after this whole scandal emerged. You might remember a couple of them.
	There was a profile of Christopher Steele in The New Yorker written by Jane Mayer.
	There was another story by Luke Harding at The Guardian.
	And it talked about how the origin of this story was actually Britain's GCHQ that they had intercepted.
	Which is their NSA.
	It's their Electronic Surveillance Intelligence Agency.
	Exactly, exactly.
	The British version of the NSA had intercepted some troubling traffic.
	The New Yorker used the phrase, a stream of illicit communications, and they talked about catching these things as early as late 2015.
	And the story went that they tried to alert R-C-I-A, and the detail is always included in these stories, that R-C-I-A was slow in the draw, that they didn't respond quickly enough, and that eventually this turned into a series of investigative actions, which you might call sort of loyalty checks or wellness checks, which aren't uncommon, by the way, right?
	So foreign intelligence, our intelligence agencies get word that maybe some American is Perhaps, you know, trending towards going over to a foreign adversary so they will check up on that person.
	What's unusual in this case is they did it to a whole slew of people in the Trump campaign under a kind of umbrella theory of collusion and coordination that they never had predication for.
	Right.
	And this started, as you mentioned, the official start of the FBI investigation was July 30th of 2016.
	This activity started well before then.
	We were told initially March of 2016.
	There are other reports coming in now that it might even have been before that in 2015.
	in 2015, but certainly in the spring of 2016, this stuff is already happening.
	Oh, so listen to what he said.
	He's using, you know, the accurate fancy language, the predication, meaning the evidence of some reasonable suspicion.
	There was no predication.
	We need that in our system.
	This isn't the Soviet Union where you say, you know, the hoary old phrase associated with Levent Iberia, show me the man and I will find the crime.
	I'll just keep digging, digging, digging.
	until there's something I can charge them with. That's what we're talking
	about here. They used foreign agencies like MI6, like GCHQ, like the Australians
	to do things they weren't permitted to do as the CIA, as the FBI, to try and find
	some dirt on the Trump campaign that then could be used as the infamous
	quote-unquote insurance policy.
	We've only just started.
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	They spied on my campaign, Leslie.
	There's no real evidence of that.
	Of course there is.
	It's all over the place.
	Leslie, they spied on my campaign and they got caught.
	Sir, can I say something?
	You know, this is 60 Minutes.
	And we can't put on things we can't verify.
	No, you won't put it on because it's bad for Biden.
	We can't put on things we can't verify.
	Leslie, they spied on my campaign.
	Well, we can't verify that.
	It's been totally verified.
	No.
	That's meant to be journalism.
	President Trump knew.
	I have a theory as to how he knew.
	We'll test it with our special guest momentarily.
	But yes, his campaign was spied upon.
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	All right, Matt.
	Let me diverge a little bit, because we don't have guests of your ilk on this show very often, because you have a reputation for not exactly being MAGA, or America First.
	You've written a couple of scathing books about President Trump.
	So let's talk a little bit about you.
	How did you get to be Mr Twitterfiles, right-hand man of Elon Musk, and now verifying the fact that the intelligence, the most powerful intelligence community in the world was used as a political weapon against the 45th president of the United States.
	Give us a little potted history of how that happened.
	It's an interesting story.
	This Trump-Russia story, I have to say, it's not an exaggeration to say it had a profound effect on my personal life.
	I'd probably still be working at Rolling Stone, where I was for 15 years, if it were not for this story.
	Now, I wasn't fired.
	I wasn't squeezed out.
	But there were a handful of us in the mainstream press.
	Glenn Greenwald is another example.
	Aaron Maté, who was at The nation and democracy now was another.
	Basically, we just expressed a little bit of skepticism.
	There was a sort of distant note of, well, where's the evidence for that?
	And this became considered heretical.
	What happened when you, your colleagues said, hang on a second, can we see the evidence of traitors inside the Trump campaign?
	What reaction did you get from your colleagues?
	Oh, I was denounced, I was called a Putin lover, a traitor to the United States, a secret Trump admirer, a bigot, a misogynist, every kind of It was incredible pressure that was placed on journalists.
	And it's not such a big deal for people like me, because I'm always going to be landing on my feet.
	I'm experienced in this business.
	But what I think happened was that a lot of other younger reporters who work in the system looked at what happened to me and, say, Glenn Greenwald, and thought, you know, I don't need that, so I'm just going to be quiet.
	And that definitely happened.
	I know that happened because I talked to a lot of folks who didn't say anything.
	Uh, during that time period, but it was very uncomfortable.
	And, you know, I actually pitched to the magazine Rolling Stone.
	I said, look, this story looks like it's wrong.
	It looks like a repeat of the WMD fiasco where we had cooked intelligence and Rolling Stone could be, you know, we could be ahead of the game if we were the first mainstream organization To uncover that, and I was sort of politely told that that was not a story they were interested in.
	So I knew my time was limited at that point at the magazine.
	I think you've called yourself in a prior interview, and we've been on panels together on Newsmax, a classic ACLU journalist, a man of the left.
	For our audience, we're talking about three and a half million conservatives right now across the nation.
	Can you explain why this story is so important to Matt Taibbi?
	We know all of these people are innocent because not one of the 26 is sitting in prison right now as an agent of Putin's Kremlin.
	Why is the FBI, the CIA, the Obama White House using other countries' intelligence agencies as a political targeting tool?
	Why should this be the biggest story of the last 10, 20 years?
	Well, there are a lot of reasons.
	I mean, think about Watergate.
	This story is similar to Watergate.
	I would actually venture to say it's far more serious.
	In the example of Watergate, you had a presidential administration that was anxious to conduct Surveillance of their opponents, but they had to do it in secret.
	They had to create a their own homegrown team of plumbers who had to be paid out of envelopes and the committee to reelect the president and they had to commit a quote-unquote third-rate burglary to implant listening devices at the DNC.
	Here we have whole institutions that were captured in the effort to conduct surveillance On Associates of the Trump campaign.
	We have the CIA involved.
	We have the FBI involved.
	We have, on the other end, where the unmasking of people in the transcripts that were collected.
	We have the National Security Council.
	We have the White House.
	There are lots and lots of organizations that we have to look at.
	It wasn't something that they hid.
	It was something that they did in plain view.
	And that is why it's More serious.
	And as to the question of why someone like me would care about this, it's not just an enormous abuse of power by the intelligence community and the law enforcement, the kind of thing that inspired the church committee hearings in the 70s, which reformed the CIA and the FBI.
	But it's an enormous failure of media, which is my entire life.
	I grew up in capitalism, and our whole thing is about getting things right and wrong, and they got this thing wrong all the way from the start, and they are not going to correct it, which is unbelievable to me.
	Yeah, I think that's why the label, they got it wrong.
	You're being charitable, you're being kind.
	I think when you decide not to correct or to say sorry, I did this as a favor to somebody or somebody at the CIA gave me this story, I didn't verify it.
	It's not they got it wrong, they were part of the problem and I think that's why you're doing what you're doing right now.
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	What about the binder?
	No, not Mitt and Mitt Romney's binder.
	The 10-inch binder of the Russia collusion hoax.
	That is perhaps the most intriguing, shocking aspect of this story.
	That's next here on America first with our special guest Matt Taibbi
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	So, binders. According to your report, I'm reading summaries from the great Margo Cleveland at the Federalist.
	And this is like the ticking time bomb. I think this is the big...
	Yes, we shouldn't use spy agencies to spy on anybody's campaign.
	I don't know who you are.
	I don't care who you are.
	Unless you're actually a spy, you're working for North Korea or Putin, they shouldn't be spying on you.
	But how about this?
	Your report states the following.
	Details about the FBI's investigation of the Trump campaign and the raw intelligence related to the intelligence community's illegal surveillance of the Trump campaign Are in a 10-inch binder that President Trump ordered to be declassified at the end of his term.
	So, you know, there is a set of documents that prove that this was a hatchet job by Obama, by Brennan, by Clapper, by Comey.
	And I had Kash Patel, former assistant director of national intelligence, almost a year ago on my show say, or float this idea, the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago was to get the binder back, to reclassify it, to deep six it or shred it, so this whole story that you and Michael and Alex have uncovered would never see the light of day.
	Is that plausible to you?
	Have you had a secondary confirmation?
	Talk to us about the binder, Matt.
	So this is the most complicated part of the story.
	We've been told that there are up to three different binders that are being referred to.
	We have conflicting reports from sources.
	We have a couple of sources who believe that the Mar-a-Lago raid may have been motivated, at least in part, by a fear that certain materials got out, either one of the binders or a report About the creation of the Intelligence Community Assessment, which is supposedly in a vault at the CIA, but there are rumors that one individual got it out, and that— And when you say the Intelligence Community Assessment, that's the assessment of the Russia hoax, which would be embarrassing if it got out?
	So this was the published intelligence community assessment from January 6th.
	Coincidental date, right?
	From January 6th of 2017, it was released by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence that said that Vladimir Putin had ordered an influence campaign in order to denigrate Hillary Clinton and to help President elect Trump's electoral chances.
	And this, uh, what our report that's coming out tomorrow is going to detail how that ICA, they call it an intelligence community assessment.
	It's a smaller, more agile project than what you might've heard of as a national intelligence estimate.
	Yes.
	Uh, the traditional thing that the CIA does, um, that ICA was described to us as cooked intelligence.
	They, uh, upgraded unreliable sources, downgraded reliable sources and left out information like For instance, that Russia was perfectly comfortable with the Hillary Clinton presidency.
	They liked the idea of the continuity of her being in office.
	So the myth that they were terrified of Hillary and that they were very anxious to put Donald Trump in office was created on the back of manipulated intelligence.
	And there is a report that was written about this that supposedly never left the grounds
	of Langley, but there are also rumors that it got out at the end of the Trump presidency,
	and there are people concerned about that.
	And I believe that was the genesis of these stories about vanished binders and vanished
	intelligence.
	Wow, wow.
	We are unpacking it segment by segment.
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	He's taking these shots.
	This antagonism is taunting to the intelligence community.
	You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.
	So, even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this.
	I'm seeing our guest, you know, chortle through the video connection, and I don't think that's the first time he's heard that cut from, you know, the most senior senator in the upper house in Washington, D.C.
	What?
	I mean, just think about that statement.
	Think about that statement.
	A sitting senator is threatening the president, right, Matt?
	It's unbelievable, especially considering the context of what was going on.
	This is an incoming, you know, president-elect.
	Reports are leaking out left and right.
	Classified information is leaking out left and right.
	Classified signals intelligence is leaking out about his most senior appointees, like Michael Flynn.
	And he's being accused, essentially, of an espionage conspiracy to fix an election with Russia.
	And he's supposed to, what, be quiet?
	And this is also, as we were finding out, And that members of his campaign team were placed under
	surveillance.
	You're not supposed to ask questions about that.
	You're not supposed to tell the American people about that.
	Again, I was not a fan of Donald Trump.
	But what's he supposed to do?
	Be quiet?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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	So, Matt, I don't know if you have, I mean we don't rehearse these interviews because I don't do that with anybody.
	I don't even do that with President Trump.
	We don't clear talking points.
	So, I don't know if you have an answer to this, but... And I haven't asked the President.
	I think I'm going to have to ask him next time I see him.
	President Trump said, whether it's in the Leslie Stahl interview, whether it's, you know, the comment about they wiretapped my campaign, he said this from the get-go.
	I think I know why he knows this.
	I think it has to do either with something Mark Levin knew, because he made this statement very early on.
	or somebody called Admiral Rogers.
	Admiral Rogers was the head of the NSA.
	Obama, sorry, Mike Rogers.
	He was head of the National Security Agency.
	Obama tried to fire him just as he fired Mike Flynn when he was the head of the DIA.
	And I think there's a lot to be unearthed about a trip that was unauthorized by the
	White House, by Admiral Rogers, to Trump Tower during the transition phase when President
	Trump was still elect president and hadn't been sworn in.
	I think Admiral Rogers knew what had been done to the candidate and now president-elect and he tried to warn him.
	Do you have any other theory or what do you think of mine?
	I think that's a plausible theory.
	Admiral Rogers is a person whom I've hoped to interview for almost eight years now for one very good reason.
	He was part of the team that did the initial intelligence community assessment and he was the the NSA refused to sign off saying that they had high confidence that Russia Had conducted influence activities to help Trump.
	Meaning they refused to make that statement?
	Right.
	Now, they said they had moderate confidence, but if you talk to intelligence officers, they'll tell you what that means.
	That means that we don't have confidence in this.
	The FBI actually changed their minds.
	Before the election, they said that they told the New York Times they didn't feel that that was true.
	But then in December, of 2016, they said that they did.
	But the NSA never moved off that position, which suggests that Admiral Rogers, who was
	the person involved in that team, that he had a point of view about all this.
	If there had been a conspiracy involving Trump and Russia, there would have been an enormous
	signals intelligence record.
	And my guess is that the NSA, not discovering this, had a great deal of trouble endorsing
	this investigatory campaign.
	Well, I'm going to put pressure on Admiral Rogers publicly and hopefully he'll give you an interview or somebody else an interview who actually believes in the truth.
	I've got a minute left in this segment.
	In the malfactors, the people driving this utter prostitution of the intelligence community for political purposes, who's the key actor?
	After Obama says, yes, do it, who drives it the most?
	Because I see Comey as this egotistical little I'm not going to use the word because I can't, but just an egotistical little high school kid who just cares about himself.
	I know from people inside the DIA who worked for him that Clapper is a cretin.
	He actually gave an all-access Pentagon Pass to the KGB resident after the fall of the Soviet Union.
	Not a smart guy, and that's declassified.
	So I think it's got to be Brennan.
	In all your work, is Brennan the guy that's pulling most of the levers to try and take down President Trump?
	Yes, that's what we were told by multiple sources in this story, that both of the main revelations in these exposés, one, that there was a widespread political espionage campaign, two, that they cooked the intelligence to conclude that Russia wanted to help Trump, that Brennan was the driving factor.
	He handpicked the team that wrote the intelligence report and supposedly was the driving factor behind the assignment of informants to go and bump members of the Trump campaign.
	Certainly it wasn't the FBI they weren't involved that early and you know he
	was he was an omni character. It's John Brennan and hopefully he's committed
	some crimes in the last five years so the statute of limitations has not
	expired!
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	Every day that goes by, we learn more about some of the unprecedented interference, including from a foreign power whose leader is not a member of my fan club.
	I was on the way to winning until the combination of Jim Comey's letter on October 28th and Russian WikiLeaks raised doubts in the minds of people who were inclined to vote for me but got scared off.
	It's the Russians!
	I think that's called election denial.
	Is she an insurrectionist?
	Should she be charged?
	Should she lose her Twitter account?
	And by the way guys, this isn't funny.
	She's still doing it.
	She's still saying the Russians stole it.
	Which is weird because she, her team, the DNC, Michael Steele, Clapper, Comey, Brennan, They're the people who ginned up the Russia collusion hoax.
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	Matt, a couple of minutes left.
	It's been an absolute pleasure.
	Thank you for joining us today.
	Hopefully, we can also have your colleagues, Matt and Alex, on as well.
	I'm going to ask you the kind of typical Washington question, you know, the elevator pitch.
	If an alien landed right now and said, oh, this racket news, this is interesting.
	What's this story about 26 people being spied upon?
	Or let's make it a little bit more realistic.
	You're a journalist.
	You've gone out on your own because you believe in the truth.
	If you are counseling or trying to inform a 22-year-old budding cub journalist, Why this story matters and what it's about, what does Taibbi say?
	Well, I think the elevator pitch is there was a broad, officially sanctioned political espionage campaign directed against the opposition party.
	of the sitting president at the time, which is a very similar story to Watergate.
	But the major difference here is that it involved the entire government, and it involved the
	use of incredibly advanced surveillance tools and foreign allies.
	As for what I would tell young journalists, why does this story matter?
	Because this is a story about the most serious forms of abuse of power, right up to and including corruption of the news media, which is supposed to act as a check against all this stuff.
	They were active accomplices in this entire scheme.
	And it proves that when the press doesn't work independently, you can get away with
	all kinds of terrible things.
	And I think this story turns out to be the ultimate example of that.
	On that note, let me just tease you out on one last thing.
	You, Greenwalt, others have decided to tread their own path, establish themselves as their
	own sources of journalism.
	You know, it's like John Solomon with Justin News.
	I love this stuff.
	I mean, this is what the Internet was actually designed to provide us, that kind of flexibility, variety and that kind of platform.
	I've got to ask you, as a guy who's been in the belly of the beast at Rolling Stone for 15 years, knows all of the people in the ecosystem that is the establishment media, after this story, as you said, was Propagated by people in the establishment who knew better or should have known better, who became willing accomplices of the intelligence community for now seven years.
	Is the establishment media, in your opinion, Matt Taibbi, is it redeemable?
	Is it salvageable?
	I don't think so.
	You know, Hunter Thompson once famously said that if you took a group photo of the 10 best journalists in the world, it would be a monument to human ugliness.
	That was in the heyday of journalism.
	There aren't 10 great journalists left right now.
	And this episode, I think, has dealt a devastating blow to the credibility of mainstream journalism.
	And the problem that we all see from the outside looking in is they don't recognize that there is a problem You saw that the Columbia Journalism Review did a 24,000-word deconstruction of all the errors in the story last year, and there's been nothing at all.
	Not a single move to do any kind of reckoning.
	They don't see it.
	They like this new role of being partners to power, and that is not redeemable.
	That's not a good role for the press.
	Well, just in case you thought that was depressing, let me add that it's not just the journalism with the report today that a man who said he would warn our greatest strategic rival, Communist China, if President Trump was ever planning to move militarily against them, A man who has admitted that he used his position as the most senior military officer in America to undermine the wishes of the man chosen by 64 million Americans to be his civilian commander-in-chief, when Mark Milley, the disgrace to the uniform he once wore, is given a sinecure, a distinguished position at both
	Princeton and Georgetown, it means only one thing.
	What Matt has just described with regards to one element of the establishment holds for so much more.
	We salute you, Matt.
	Keep doing what you do.
	God bless.
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