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I discussed it a little bit yesterday because I know nothing about American football because
I played a real sport called rugby where we didn't have helmets or padding.
But I did sit on the couch with my family kind of watching the Super Bowl and then played
in the background.
We had this disturbing advertisement, this commercial for the Jesus Gets You campaign,
which is allegedly funded by the Hobby Lobby billionaires, the Green Family, the people
who are behind what I consider to be an amazing institution, the Museum of the Bible.
But while you're promoting...
Planned Parenthood clinics with people having their feet washed outside.
For me, it kind of missed the whole message of the New Testament, is that we don't forgive sinners and then wash it all away.
Jesus did that on the cross for us.
We don't get to do that.
What Jesus' message is, sin no more.
That's what he said to the lady at the well.
Somebody who had a superb response is the managing editor of the Babylon Bee, Joel Berry.
Let me read to you.
Oh!
I wasn't going to introduce him yet.
There he is.
They've just kind of surprised me.
I was going to read your tweet first.
Joel, welcome to America First.
Babylon Bee, we love what you guys do.
You had a tweet That I want to read out because it's fascinating.
There's a reason the He Gets Us commercial didn't show a liberal washing the feet of someone in a MAGA hat or a BLM protester washing a law enforcement officer's feet.
Now that would have actually been subversive.
Instead, they were strictly following the Oppressed vs. Oppressor INTERSECTIONALITY GUIDELINES!
This tells me we have two options for that commercial.
Joel, will you explain to all of our listeners across the country, what are the two LIKELY scenarios for that commercial, which by the way, cost a cool $14 million?
Yeah, well, first I want to empathize with the people who watched it, and I think a lot of Christians watched it, and something didn't sit right with them as they saw it, but they couldn't quite put their finger on what it was.
And I think there's two things going on here.
I think there's probably some good motives from the people involved in this commercial, and there's also some bad motives from other people involved in this commercial.
And he gets us, admits that they're not totally Christian funded.
There are some non-Christians involved in this whole campaign.
But I think that the good motives here, if you can call them that, I don't think they're very effective, but I think they're trying to use kind of leftist coded messaging to sell Jesus to to leftists.
So they're kind of thinking like PR campaign people, and how are we going to sell Jesus to leftists?
This is how we do it.
But there's another side to it, I think.
I think there's a more cynical motive, potentially, here.
What we're looking at, and once you kind of have trained yourself to recognize this stuff, you see it more often, but this is really agitprop.
I mean, this is leftists using Jesus Yeah, yeah.
Agitprop being, you know, kind of communist propaganda, essentially.
So, you know, Marxists have long known that they're not going to be able to get America to accept their ideology by getting America to abandon God.
We love God.
So what they have instead done is they have worked very hard to turn God, to turn Jesus into a Marxist.
So, you know, what they're doing here is essentially using Jesus as a mascot to push what is essentially a political message and a
political agenda.
And it's not the whole gospel. That's the thing that's, I think, most frustrating for me as a
Christian, in watching it, is it's missing the clincher. It's missing the beautiful ending to
this story here, that Christ died for us, and that's pretty amazing.
I mean, that's more powerful than even washing feet.
He died for us.
He died for our sins.
But there's a bigger problem, and I look at just the packaging of this program or propaganda, whatever.
He gets us.
Now, number one, you're not even using his name.
Why would you not use, you know, if he's our Savior, then let's at least call him Jesus.
And then secondly, he gets us.
What's the emphasis in that sentence?
It's us.
You're actually buying into the secular postmodernism that there's this guy who maybe was a kind of cool rabbi, but it's really about he understands us.
Surely, The whole point of it is that we should understand who he is and why, if he's really God, as C.S.
Lewis said, you've only got a couple of options.
Either he's a madman, either he was lying, or he is God.
And if he's God, then our whole life has to change completely, correct?
Exactly.
And that's the thing that's missing is repentance here, you know.
There's something weird that happens at the end of the commercial where you see the word us and then The word us graphically kind of slowly transforms into the word Jesus, but the us is still emphasized in yellow.
It's kind of like selling to a very narcissistic culture, and that's what we are.
We're trying to bring Jesus to us as opposed to kind of recognizing the massive gap between us and a holy God that Jesus bridged for us, and that comes through repentance.
You know, Jesus is fine with us, and we don't have to change anything, and we're good.
A lot of people would like to hear that, but that's just not the truth.
We're going to keep you over for another segment.
Talk to Joel Berry, Managing Editor of the Babylon Bee.
Follow him at JoelWBerry, it's BabylonBee.com.
But in the minute we have with you now, I'm curious, what kind of reaction have you had to your tweet, and are you leaning one way or the other with regards to the charitable interpretation or the agitprop interpretation?
I think I'm leaning B. I'm a little more pessimistic when it comes to this stuff.
It was nasty messaging.
There's a picture of a suburban Karen-looking woman washing the foot of an illegal immigrant woman.
The illegal immigrant woman isn't standing there with gratefulness or thankfulness or repentance.
She's got this defiant look on her face.
She's crossing her arms for the camera.
It's very clearly a politically coded message to me.
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So what kind of response did you get to your tweet?
I mean, it was very positive.
I think the most overwhelming response that I got was, like, thank you for putting this into words.
Like, I couldn't quite articulate what felt off about it.
I think your first point is the point that Christians looked at that and said, uh, there's something not right about that.
Yeah, well you know that's the thing, that's the thing that's so devilishly clever about it because it doesn't say anything specifically that's wrong.
It's at the end of the commercial it says, Jesus didn't preach hate.
Okay, well of course he didn't preach it.
I don't think any person on earth thinks that Jesus preached hate.
Right.
And so if you are angry at the commercial or are bothered by it, what does that say
about you?
You believe in hate?
You don't want to serve people?
You don't want to love your neighbor?
What's wrong with you?
And so the way it's framed is very, it's kind of this sneaky, kind of passive aggressive
way of cornering people into a very specific political ideology, I think.
Play it in the back so I can just see those images again.
I want to see the can with the immigrant.
And then, why would the Green family... I mean, I love the Museum of the Bible.
I think it's amazing.
Are they really, like, just trying to make Jesus cool?
You know, I think it might just be kind of a thing where there's a bit of out-of-touch happening.
There's, I mean, it's not just the Green family.
There's a guy named Ken Caldwell, who's the CEO of Come Near.
Oh, look at that.
Look at that image.
Look at that image.
Look at that, right?
She looks like she's standing on a field of victory, you know?
Yeah.
And who is this guy you mentioned?
Yeah.
Ken Caldwell is the CEO of Come Near.
If you look him up on LinkedIn, he's got pronouns in his bio.
He claims to be a Christian.
Um, you know, and so there's, I think there's just kind of a bit of leftist infiltration happening.
And anytime too, if you're working with professional artists, professional graphic designers, screenwriters, marketing people, PR people, that entire field is dominated by leftists.
If they were wanting slick marketing, they were probably dealing with leftists and, you know, it's possible that they just, you know, they weren't discerning enough to kind of catch what they were doing.
But are they so dumb?
I mean, seriously, they're so dumb?
I mean, just that sentence, he washed feet.
Is that the essence of Jesus?
Really?
He washed feet?
Yeah.
No, he died for our sins, voluntarily, right?
Can we, like, have that on the ad?
Exactly, exactly.
And that's the infuriating thing about it.
I think too, though, that it was the Apostle Paul that said, you know, some people preach Christ through selfish ambition and other terrible motives, but at least Christ is being preached.
And I think what man often means for evil or, you know, sometimes our mistakes God uses for good.
So if this has the effect of Of having more people talk about Jesus like we are now, and more people getting the true gospel message out there, then I'm happy about that.
I just have to stay hopeful that God's going to use this for His glory one way or another.
Well, I mean, it's the big if.
Are people drawing the gospel message from the ad?
I'm not sure they are.
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Far more importantly, a former Marine, but also co-author, along with his colleague, Kyle Mann of the Postmodern Pilgrim's Progress.
I've got to ask you, well let's play it in the background, because you posted, I think yesterday, another commercial that would have been a much better Super Bowl commercial, which just shows photographs of, I presume, people who just came to Jesus.
A former witch, a former jihadist, a former KKK member, on and on and on.
Why is that advertisement More important or true than the one we saw about He Gets Us?
I think that the thing that's most powerful about this ad, aside from the fact that it uses pictures of real people rather than creepy AI like the other one does, these are real people.
I know some of these people and I know some of their stories and to look... Hang on, are we?
wrote, oh we lost him there for a second, the big point he was making is that they're
real individuals in that commercial who actually left their former ways which is really the
message of Christ with the woman at the well.
He knew who she was.
He knew exactly what sins she had committed.
What was the message after the discussion?
The message was a very simple one.
Sin no more.
So, first point, fascinating, you said, Joel, that this isn't creepy AI images.
These are real people.
I didn't even know you knew some of them.
Yeah, I mean, beautiful stories.
To reflect on what Christ has done in the lives of these people, it reminds me of what He's done in my life.
And you just remember the power of the gospel, the power of what Christ did on the cross.
It's amazing.
And what a contrast with the other commercial.
I can hardly get through this other commercial without crying.
It's just so beautiful.
The thing that I think that people should understand when they're looking at some of this messaging and the He Gets Us campaign, and I think this is very important, this is something I say a lot, leftism, progressivism, Marxism, whatever you want to call it, it has many names, it's all the same thing.
They don't have their own values.
They parasitically attach themselves to the values of a host, in this case the Christian West, and they do that just long enough to kill the host.
So in this case you have Marxists who are using Christian values to sell their bill of goods.
And you have to be discerning as a Christian to pick out what that is, and you have to be in your Bible.
I think the more you're in your Bible, the more you're going to be equipped to answer some of this stuff.
I love that.
I'm going to ruminate on that.
They're parasitic entities, these Marxists, and they destroy the host upon which they latch themselves.
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Is there any room for satire anymore?
How hard is it to do the Babylon Bee stuff?
It's extremely difficult.
If you observe our feed lately, half of it is just straight up news.
Half the time we're just reporting the news and it reads like satire because that's all we can do.
We can't think of anything more crazy.
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Alright.
Berry.
Um... What's the most interesting line there, the agate prop?
Trying to sell Jesus or something like that?
Marxists trying to make Jesus cool.
What's Kemp saying?
Make Jesus cool.
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I'll tell you this, though.
I've worked with the president for a long time, especially closely as speaker when he was president, and now since then.
And he knows.
I mean, he's always on the ball.
He knows these issues.
He knows the legislation.
He helped write some of it.
He campaigned on it.
He remembers it.
Anyone who would think that they're at some advantage because of his age thinks that they're peril because he's very sharp.
He's very sharp, but he still thinks that you're the Speaker of the House, Nancy.
Eric, I'm going to jump to that other cut.
This was Joe Biden earlier today, cut 14, talking about the bill that was sneakily passed in the Senate last night that's now going to the House.
Cut 14.
God bless you all.
May God protect our speakers.
And I promise I'll come back and answer questions later.
Thank you.
Hey Jeff, do you think that Biden was congratulating Speaker Johnson there?
Yeah, I'm sure, because he said he's going to get rid of the foreign aid bill.
He wasn't going to bring it up for a vote, so he's probably congratulating him, I'm sure.
That's how sharp he is.
Somebody who disagrees, oops, there's a little bit of a civil war going on inside the Democrat Party, is the woman who will never ever be President of the United States.
She's on the attack, talking about Biden's age.
MSNBC Hillary, cut to.
You know, I talk to people in the White House all the time and, you know, they know it's an issue.
But as I like to say, look, it's a legitimate issue.
It's a legitimate issue for Trump, who's only three years younger, right?
So it's an issue.
Once you say that, then you have to also talk about what's at stake in the election.
And I'm for Joe Biden for re-election on the merits, because I think he's done a really good job as president.
Eric, why is Hillary talking about the problem of Biden's advanced age?
What's going on?
The only thing I can think of is that she is still salty all these years later that Biden got to be president and she never did.
Oh, that's a good one.
And then they have to try and defend him with Joe Scarborough on his show that nobody watches saying something that's actually quite disgusting.
Cut three.
Nobody's closer to me, nobody's been closer to me in my life other than my mom.
If somebody asks me in the middle of a deposition, what year did your mom die?
I go, I don't know man, 2017, 2018, 2019.
I don't know, I can tell you everything about it.
I can tell you my final word, but again, that and same thing with Mika and her dad.
I know exactly when my parents died.
They died within three months of each other.
I'll never forget the year or the date.
Jeff, if you lose somebody close to you, is there any human being except Joe Scarborough who says they don't remember when their relative died?
Well, apparently he said Mika did too, because he's really trying to convince people.
That is completely lying.
There is no way he doesn't remember that.
It's disgusting, isn't it?
It's ridiculous.
Filth.
True, utter filth.
All right, let's talk to some Patriots.
Let's go to... Oh, buddy, somewhere in the tall grass.
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What do you mean he's not sharp?
He's as sharp as a balloon, Dr. G. Come on.
No, is it a punctured balloon?
Or is it an inflated balloon?
I mean, does it matter?
Yeah, and don't... Sharp as a marble.
How's that?
Sharp as a marble.
I love it.
Yeah, don't rule out the stalking horse who you just played also.
She is lurking.
She wants to desperately.
I mean, does she?
She can smell it.
She so wants it.
Yeah, yeah, she's right there.
Just Yeah, and don't Yeah, don't turn your back on her, Joe.
Be facing her at all times.
On the issue of the commercial, you know, it bugged me too.
I couldn't pick out why, but it did bother me.
It just like gets under your skin and you're going, well, what's the foot washing?
Is that all that Jesus is about?
Well, but it also reminded me of something.
I used to get really mad at at some preachers, like the one in Texas whose church just
got shot up. I don't like him.
I don't like it. The prosperity gospel, if you come to my church, I will make you a millionaire.
I don't like that, Ray. I don't either, and there's others I don't like either, but I've
been humbled. The Lord spoke to me in a way, in my own thoughts, that if people are coming to Jesus
by whatever other method, who am I to stand in their way?
Or another way to say it is there's not a single path to Jesus.
My way is not the only way.
Right.
But it has to be the real Jesus.
It has to be the Son of God who died for our sins, not some, you know, cool, you know, rabbi 2,000 years ago.
Exactly.
Don't turn Jesus into the world.
Jesus came here to change the world, not to be turned into the world.
But if that's the venue that gets them on that course to find him, Then who am I to say what's the right way to find him or what's the wrong way as long as they find him?
Just don't misrepresent him.
Who he is is very simple.
It's in the New Testament.
He is the Son of God who died for us and took our sins upon us with a very simple message.
Sin no more and love thy neighbor.
Thank you, Ray.
Let's go to John in New Jersey.
Dr. G, it might be time to get ahead of the curve and be the first to have them out there.
Maybe make some t-shirts up that say, uh...
Vote for 48 and 24 because I got a feeling they're getting ready to make Kamala 47.
Oh my gosh, and I keep saying we've got to make 45-47, but you might be right.
But hang on a second, you do remember that the cackler, John, couldn't even get 2% in the Democrat primaries.
How on earth do they think that they can save their power center when she couldn't even get 2% of the Democrats to vote for her?
She's just going to cry racism.
I don't know, buddy, but I'm going to have to think about it.
I'm going to have to think, do we have to go from 45 to 47 because they get rid of Joe Biden before the convention?
Kamala becomes 47.
And then President Trump, if we get him back in the White House, God willing, he's 48.
Let me let me also ponder that one.
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Mic's off, Alex.
No.
...is firing 800 people, including Katherine Herridge.
Wonder why her.
She's in some First Amendment case, uh, I guess with CBS.
Wow.
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Feels like a lifetime ago.
All right.
That's crazy.
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Whack.
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All right.
We're getting back to cores.
Got lots of cuts.
We've done... Oh, we didn't do bloody Cassio again.
Oh, we still got E left for some reason.
I thought that was E. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm gonna play cut 12 here.
12 here. 12. Police. 45 seconds.
12.
Thanks.
.
Coming in with cut 9.
Coming in with 9, and then we'll do 12.
Oh, we didn't play Romney, right?
Not yet.
20 seconds coming in with nine.
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And when anybody mocks it, or makes fun of it, It does make them all question, like, what's happening to
America?
And that's a very sad state of affairs.
If you want to see why our recruitment is down in the military 25%, it's because of comments like that.
It's because of how America has treated our veterans.
You know who she's talking about?
This is mind-boggling.
Nikki Haley is blaming President Trump?
For the recruiting figures?
Hey Jeff, does she know that he's not the Commander-in-Chief and that the President isn't running the military?
Of course not, but she's got nothing else.
She's just trying to rehash old things.
Old comments.
Who made the military woke?
It's Biden and the Obama holdovers and she's trying to blame the guy that left the Oval three years ago?
Well, you're not going to get on Good Morning America and Saturday Night Live and everywhere if you're not a passion.
Okay, so you said something to me before we started the show.
What's her game plan right now?
I said she's a lot of places, like I was saying, the CBS morning shows, Good Morning America, all that type of stuff, where it's outside of the news, outside of politics, people not following it.
Right.
And she's just there basically bashing Trump.
She's doing the role of what Biden cannot do.
So she's a surrogate for Biden.
Exactly.
And they like it so much better.
It's like, look, here's even a Republican saying this about him.
Wow.
That's a really great theory.
Incredible.
Incredible.
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I have a document in my hand, dated February the 13th, opening statement before the Committee on Oversight and Accountability, written by Mr. Anthony Bobulinski.
This testimony would result in the collapse of any other administration.
This is from a man who ran various commercial concerns with Hunter Biden.
Can I just read to you a couple of things?
Tony Bobulinski, under pain of perjury, has testified today on Capitol Hill.
First, he talks about his credentials, his background, serving in the armed forces, highest level of clearance.
But then he gets to his knowledge of the Biden cartel.
I want to be crystal clear from my direct personal experience and what I have subsequently come to learn.
It is clear to me that Joe Biden was the brand being sold by the Biden family.
His family's foreign influence peddling operation from China to Ukraine and elsewhere sold out to foreign actors Who was seeking to gain influence and access to Joe Biden and the United States.
Bobulinski continued to testify today.
Joe Biden was more than a participant in and a beneficiary of his family's business.
He was an enabler, despite being buffered by a complex scheme to maintain plausible deniability.
Last sentence.
The Biden family business was Joe Biden, period.
That's from Tony Bobulinski, business partner to Hunter Biden and his sworn testimony before Congress today.
How much of this will matter?
Is the Biden presidency over after last Thursday's press conference?
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Lord Black, welcome back to America First.
Thank you very much, Sebastian.
I feel I should be speaking in Latin.
Amoha Massamat.
We could do that, but I'm not sure it's good for live radio across the United States.
I want to talk about some articles that we didn't get to last week of yours from the Epoch Times and the New York Sun.
I want to talk about something I found very interesting.
I jump to the end of books usually, and I was jumping into Caesar and to the Roman politics, and I want to tease something out with relevance to today.
With regards to this testimony about the Biden cartel and this press conference, I've got a little clip.
Let's get the clip of when Joe Biden just lost it on Thursday after the release of the Robert Herz Special Counsel report.
And a member of the press corps, the establishment media, not Breitbart, not Fox, asked a question about his mental competency.
It was a press conference the likes of which we haven't seen in the last three years.
Do we have that cut, Eric?
All right, when we have it, I want to play it, because I think it is a signal of something larger.
I think it is a sign of the fact that the establishment is prepared to jettison the current incumbent.
We played in the last hour Hillary Clinton, of all people, saying what?
saying that Joe Biden is too old and this is what happened last Thursday.
Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr. President,
for months when you were asked about your age, you would respond with the words, watch me.
Many American people have been watching and they have expressed concerns about your age.
That is your judgment.
That is your judgment.
That is not the judgment of the press.
They express concerns about your mental acuity.
They say that you are too old.
Mr. President, in December, you told me that you believe there are many other Democrats who could defeat Donald Trump.
So why does it have to be you now?
What is your answer to that question?
Because I'm the most qualified person in this country to be President of the United States and finish the job I started.
From a press corps that is wont to ask him what his favorite ice cream flavor is.
Have we seen the tide turn?
Is the Biden administration counting its days?
I think we've seen the tide turn.
I wouldn't count his tenacity out so quickly.
I have thought for some time that the powers that be in the Democratic Party were feeding
and torquing up the Hunter Biden story to try and embarrass the president out of seeking
a second term.
And he didn't get the hint in time, so it's too late to primary anybody in or out.
But I have the impression that Merrick Garland, as attorney general, who's kind of a traffic
policeman and all the spurious litigation against Trump and the attempted whitewashing
of Biden and so on, her report could not have been published without his agreement and not
in the wording that was written without his agreement.
And I think he is, in effect, acting for the party elders.
I mean, I think they like Biden and think he's a wheelhorse who has rendered service to the Democratic Party over many years, but they know.
I mean, Sebastian, if you and I and all your listeners know that this guy is on the skids, you can be sure that they know it.
And I think they're trying to move him out and have actually a real You know, smoke-filled room.
And then, given their identity politics, can they really do an end run around the current vice president?
Can they say that a white man from California should be the nominee as opposed to the colored female who's currently the vice president?
Tenable for the Democrat Party?
Well, again, I'm not the best person to ask because I'm not exactly an insider in that party, but I think that it would depend on who they put in as vice president.
If they actually got... I mean, again, I saw a very learned comment in the last couple days on how The Democrats work, and I'm not sure how strong the pledges of the delegates are.
It's not going to be easy under any scenario, but I think if the party elders were determined they had to make a change, they could do it.
They could just get the delegates to change from their pledges.
And and splinter their vote on the first ballot and get together.
And if they put Newsom in for president, but to answer your question, if they then put in, for example, Michelle Obama.
As vice president, I don't think you'd get the convention torn up on behalf of Kamala Harris.
They might even get away with Gretchen Whitmer.
She's a woman, but she's white.
And there are other people around in that party.
So I think they could probably manage it, but they would have to throw a bone to the identity constituents, you know, the minorities.
I don't count, I mean, women aren't a minority.
You know, the different factions.
They'd have to be very careful who they chose.
But there'd have to be a moment in the coming weeks or months, don't you think, where Biden is convinced to say the classic, for family reasons, I'm leaving the office?
Yeah, or even medical reasons.
You know, the doctors have told me for the first time that under the stresses of office
in the passage of years, it really, the best thing for my own health would be,
et cetera, et cetera.
I mean, you know, you can, at that point people can say anything.
I could want to spend more time with the house cat or whatever the hell I want, you know,
by collecting butterflies or traveling to outer Mongolia.
Anything will do.
But, look, I thought that all along, but I must say I expected it before now.
And so I haven't, I can't claim that I've been right.
I haven't been right.
It's been a great few days for the 45th President of the United States from his incredible primary victories.
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I did, yeah.
Okay, let's just play the two cuts for Lord Black.
Let's play first Kagan and then Ketanji Brown.
And then the question becomes, does anything in the 14th Amendment say that only Congress can create that process?
And Section 5 very clearly is not an exclusive provision.
It says Congress shall have power.
But maybe put most boldly, I think that the question that you have to confront is why a single state should decide who gets to be president of the United States.
In other words, you know, this question of whether a former president is disqualified for insurrection to be president.
Next.
The more broad point I want to make is that what is very clear from the history
is that the framers were concerned about charismatic rebels who might rise through the ranks up to and including the
presidency of the United States.
But then why didn't they put the word president in the very enumerated list in section 3?
The thing that really is troubling to me is I totally understand your argument,
but they were listing people that were barred and president is not there.
And so I guess that just makes me worry that maybe they weren't focusing on the president and for example, the fact that electors of vice president and president are there.
All right.
Do you have the cut from the president on NATO that we used yesterday?
Which cut was that, Geoff?
It's in there in the middle.
It's the one from South Carolina.
electors and therefore that person is never going to rise.
All right, do you have the cut from the president on NATO that we used yesterday?
Which cut was that Jeff? It's in there in the middle. It's the one from South Carolina.
It's the only Trump cut yesterday.
Because I want to tee that up for Conrad's latest piece.
Thank you.
Bye!
NATO needs to pay its bills.
Yeah.
Alright, give me a second.
You wanna play it now?
Just check it.
One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, well sir, if we don't pay, and we're attacked by Russia... Good, good, good.
Alright.
Come in, I'll do the Cruz.
No, come in with the second cut, Katanji Brown.
I'll do the Cruz, we'll talk about the Supreme Court hearing, and then I'll play the Trump cut, and then we'll go to Conrad's latest piece in the Epoch Times.
Okay.
The Epoch Times piece is today, Conrad, or yesterday?
I sent it Sunday.
It was published today.
Today.
Perfect, perfect, perfect.
And then we're going to book you for a longer interview via Skype to discuss just the book.
I'd love to do that.
Good, good, good, good.
Yeah, I mean, have you got a chance to read any significant part of it?
Yeah, no, as I said, I jumped to the end and I'm reading all about Pompey and Julius Caesar, you know.
Don't you find that's gripping stuff?
Oh my gosh, that's the point I wanted to make.
It's like, we think that politics today is, you know, dirty and Byzantine.
Just read a couple of pages from that chapter.
Those guys really knew how to do it.
Oh yeah, standby.
One false step and you were a dead man.
They were really engaging.
You were a dead man.
The more broad point I want to make is that what is very clear from the history is that
the framers were concerned about charismatic rebels who might rise through the ranks up
to and including the presidency of the United States.
But then why didn't they put the word president in the very enumerated list in section 3?
The thing that really is troubling to me is I totally understand your argument but they were listing people that were barred and president is not there.
And so I guess that just makes me worry that maybe they weren't focusing on the president and, for example, the fact that electors of vice president and president are there suggests that really what they thought was if we're worried about the charismatic person, we're going to bar insurrectionist electors and therefore that person is never going to rise.
You know, part of me worries when one of the most liberal members of the Supreme Court, Ketanji Brown, uses a talking point that I used on my show about the 14th Amendment not enumerating the President, therefore its inapplicability to President Trump.
But wow, shocking, shocking, shocking.
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Lord Black, are you surprised by the seeming potential indication that we'll have a 9-0 decision from the Supreme Court saying this attempt to restrict the ballots against President Trump is asinine?
I think it is clear the Supreme Courts are going to reverse the Colorado judgment.
And it looks to me like they are, all of them, including the Chief Justice, Yes.
trying to find a way to do it without getting into the fact that Trump has never been accused
of, let alone convicted of, trying to incite an insurrection, which, of course, he never
did.
Now, you know, the average reasonably informed person would say the whole thing is nonsense.
He wasn't trying to incite an insurrection, and what happened was not an attempted insurrection,
and he didn't insure it anyway.
But they want to stay away from that, because that's kind of controversial, politically.
And so all of a sudden we have justices, such as Brown-Jackson, who have been pretty breezy about what the authors of the Constitution or other legislation really intended.
I mean, they tend to kind of make it up themselves, supposedly, in the contemporary context, saying, well, what did Madison and Hamilton really mean here?
You know, this kind of thing.
And in fact, it was subsequent people, since it's not an amendment, I'm sorry.
But, you know, going into what did the authors of this legislation actually intend?
Which isn't normally a criterion they invoke.
I saw that with Kagan and Brown-Jackson.
So they're obviously going to throw that insane judgment from Colorado out, and quite rightly say that the candidates who are nominated by the parties can run, and the voters will decide.
Quite correct.
But even the apparently more strict constructionists of them, are staying away with the Chief Justice leading them from
getting into this business of, we are not going to uphold the lower court judgment, booting
someone out for in effect being an insurrectionist when he hasn't been accused or
convicted of it. They're treading very carefully here, but I don't think there's any doubt
what the decision's going to be.
No, I think you're absolutely right.
Let's move to the subject of your latest piece for the Epoch Times.
Let's play a little clip that triggered this wild reaction.
I had to deal with it with the British press as well.
President Trump in South Carolina talking about how he strengthened NATO.
Play clip.
One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, well, sir, if we don't pay and we're attacked by Russia, will you protect us?
I said, you didn't pay?
You're delinquent?
He said, yes.
Let's say that happened.
No, I would not protect you.
In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want.
You got to pay.
You got to pay your bills.
So, I had to respond to this.
You've written your piece about it.
The President was explaining how he got a $10 billion increase in NATO spending, and now the commentariat, the pearl clutches, are saying President Trump is trying to destroy NATO.
What's the best way to understand those comments, Lord Black?
Just by saying, you know, for decades the Americans to carry more than their share in the europeans justified
it with this bunk which i'm sure you remember from the cold war days that
well all right the the americans take the burden sharing that we take the
risk is where next to the russians is that the united states was supposed to compensate
uh... you know italy and germany and belgium for the fact that they were
closer to the russians from north america's and and uh...
you know it had to be handled with care because the neutralist forces in a
number of those countries were quite strong.
You remember Billy Brown and so on.
I mean, basically, I don't think they were very enthusiastic members of the Western Alliance.
But the whole game has changed now, and Russia is not a fraction of the strength of threat that it was as the Soviet Union.
You know, they've lost more than half their population.
And maybe the argument could be made that Trump could have left out that business about, I don't care what they do in those circumstances.
If he'd said, well, you know, we'd think about it when it came, but we wouldn't necessarily feel obligated given that they're freeloading.
It would have been a lot easier to deal with.
It's just, you know, even at the height of the Cold War, when the United States was carrying water on both shoulders for all of its allies, Although some of them paid up well, like the British, who were still paying well, by the way.
Even in those days, the Europeans fretted and fussed over the Americans.
Mr. Churchill said, well, what was it?
He had a horse-racing expression, where they finish the race or something.
And he was pro-American and half-American himself, and has been through the greatest moments of the Anglo-American alliance.
a co-author of it and so the Europeans always worry about the Americans that's what I'd say
you know you're worried obviously the U.S. will pursue its national interest I mean look look at
the aid the United States is giving to Ukraine and it's not even in NATO right I mean obviously the
Americans would do something if Russia invaded Poland and Poland is paying its bills anyway
It's up to almost 4% of GDP on defense.
Just one fact.
Two thirds of NATO nations were delinquent in meeting their 2% GDP goals when we came into the White House.
After the President made those comments, it dropped to 10 out of the 30 nations.
That's an increase.
That is a serious increase of the capabilities of the Alliance.
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Alright, so first things first, this is a super complex story that I don't even think most conservatives understand the significance of.
But first things first, on January 6th, allegedly, A pipe bomb was left outside the Democrat National Committee headquarters when Kamala Harris was there for some strange reason instead of being where?
In the Senate when they were counting and verifying the Electoral College votes which is where she should have been as a member of that body and I guess Loudermilk, it's Congressman Loudermilk who gave you this latest video, is that correct?
Right, so they are making a lot of the surveillance video of January 6th available.
You will recall this was part of the negotiation of Speaker Mike Johnson replacing Kevin McCarthy.
So they're uploading it slowly but systematically on Rumble.
But you also, as a journalist, can go, and I was one of three journalists initially given access to the surveillance tape.
So I went back last week, and I was looking at the DNC footage, just to kind of build on what Darren Beatty, his explosive... Yes, revolver.news, Darren Beatty, and you went back.
But am I right in mentioning Loudermilk's name?
Yes, correct.
So it is his subcommittee who's doing a lot of the work on January 6th now.
So explain what's wrong with this video.
Right.
So honestly, Seb, I almost fell out of my chair when I saw this footage.
I was rewinding back and trying to see.
There was supposed to be another security detail at the DNC.
We were told of a member of House leadership.
So I was kind of trying to see who that might have been.
So then I noticed this bomb-sniffing dog at 950 and just went back over and over to make sure my eyes weren't deceiving me, but that certainly is the case.
And you will see right there, this is an SUV that pulled in about five minutes beforehand, stayed in the driveway.
A man, a security guard, we're not sure exactly if he's a police officer, if he was with the Secret Service, who he is.
Brings out this bomb-sniffing canine to do a perimeter search of the vehicle including the back and then the back seat in preparation for Kamala Harris because they know she's coming because they should do because Secret Service has to know where she's going and they sweep the building and then that's at 950 and Kamala allegedly arrives at 11 20 and then at 12 50 a pipe bomb is magically discovered.
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There's something about this story that simply does not add up.
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right.
That sweep with the K-9, the bomb sniffer, is about 9.50, right?
Correct.
Okay, and then she rolls up like 11.20?
Correct, 11.24, 11.25.
And then the plainclothes officer discovers the quote-unquote pipe bomb at about 12.50, right?
No, it's closer to like 107.
107.
And then what agency is he?
Is he Capitol?
Correct.
He was a plainclothes Capitol police officer.
He was with the Protective Dignitary Services.
Right.
Yes.
And then we still don't know who he is, right?
We do not know who he is.
But I believe Tom Massey was told that he's still on the Capitol Police Force.
But how can somebody who saved the vice president from being blown up, how come his identity is secret?
I don't know.
I mean, why isn't he getting awards with Michael Fanone and Harry Dunn?
Right, and Bird, Lieutenant Bird, you know, Ashley Babbitt's killer.
Right.
Right.
Why isn't this?
I mean, this man saved not just a sitting U.S.
senator, the first female incoming vice president, and her staff, but also Passers-by.
There were schoolchildren, as Darren Beatty reported.
And then what about the RNC?
Right.
So I think that's the timeline you were sort of alluding to.
The first device allegedly was found outside the Capitol Hill Club in an alley between the Capitol Hill Club and RNC headquarters, which is also near the DNC headquarters.
And all of these locations are close to the Capitol, as you know.
So a woman who just happened to be doing her laundry walks through this alley, looks down by this dumpster area and sees what she believes is a pipe bomb alert security at the Capitol Hill Club, who apparently radioed that into Capitol Police.
And then they responded to that device.
So then it was, what, 20 some odd minutes later, suddenly this DNC device, which we were told had been there since the night before, is discovered after it had been...
Oh, that's important. That's an important detail.
All right, stand by. All right.
20 seconds. Stand by.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
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You know more than anyone else, along with Warren Beatty at revolver.news, let me tell you what doesn't add up to me as a national security guy.
That's a canine sniffer.
He's not there looking for drugs or, you know, produce that's being smuggled in from, you know, the Dulles Airport.
There's no bomb there at the time the sweep occurs, at 9.50.
Unless, of course, it's not a real bomb.
Unless it's a pipe bomb that has nothing in it.
There's nothing to smell.
It's just a piece of steel.
Then we have what?
The idea that the person who found it, undercover Capitol Police officer, finds the device And Julie, nobody knows who he is.
Michael Byrd, Lieutenant Byrd, who killed Ashley Babbitt, is celebrated with puff pieces, gets a medal.
What else am I missing about the January 6th pipe bomber at the DNC that just doesn't add up to you or any other reasonable person?
Well, in addition to the pipe bomb sniffing dog, And what the FBI said was planted the night before, and the fact that FBI Washington Field Office Chief Stephen D'Antuano insisted that that device was viable, that it was lethal, that it contained black powder, which is something, as you know, these canines are trained to pick up.
How are we to believe that this K-9 and his handler missed this.
This device, as you know, was sitting in between these two benches right outside the front of the DNC.
It had been there, we were told now, for 17 hours.
Not only did you have this dog and his handler, you had for hours, including Kamala Harris's extensive Secret Service detail because she was the incoming Vice President.
I posted a new clip on Twitter today that showed at least six Vehicles tied to her detail arriving at 11 25 driving right past these benches where the bomb was.
Then you had agents and officers outside mulling around that area.
You had what appears to be private security guards tied to the DNC who had been out there since my count by seven o'clock that morning.
They all missed this white piece of tubing with a kitchen timer attached to it.
Propped up on a bed of dead leaves and twigs outside the DNC.
I mean, it defies common sense.
Defies reality.
And add in one more thing.
What did Stephen D'Antuono do before he became the head of the Washington field office for the FBI, Julie?
He was the head of the Detroit FBI field office in charge and overseeing the Whitmer kidnapping hoax, which also involved explosives.
The Whitmer, Governor Whitmer, Fed-inspired, quote-unquote, kidnapping.
Got a couple of minutes left.
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Do you have a theory?
What the hell's going on here?
Kamala Harris shouldn't have been there.
They're verifying the electoral college votes.
She's got to be in the Senate.
What's she doing there and then who planted it?
Did they hire Antifa to make President Trump and MAGA look bad?
What makes sense to you out of all of this stuff that simply doesn't add up?
I just called it a hoax for the past few years.
Not only the fact that there was so little recording on it after it happened, there was no follow-up investigation, any details, but keep in mind, Seb, the woman who allegedly discovered the bomb by the RNC, she's tied to a private-public partnership called FirstNet.
She worked from home.
FirstNet had received a $92 million grant from who else?
The FBI.
The month before.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Hang on a second.
Hang on a second.
How much?
92 million.
For what?
Do we know?
This is a public private like telecommunications system called FirstNet.
And the woman who founded her name is Karlyn Younger.
She was a subcontractor with, I believe, the Commerce Department and working on this FirstNet project.
She herself has ties to law enforcement and security and intelligence issues.
She just happens at 1240 on a frosty Wednesday afternoon to walk outside to do her laundry and oops, gee, there's a pipe bomb.
I mean, maybe it happened but As Steve Bannon says, no conspiracies, but no coincidences.
Not in this stinking rat hole that is Washington D.C.
Julie Kelly, are you ever going to give up until you find the truth?
Never.
And I will tell you what the truth is first, Seb.
I will be right here to tell you as soon as I figure it out.
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Hey, Jeff, I'm curious.
If you're an old white guy who said things like, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black, and I don't want my kids to grow up in a racial jungle, should you be making videos about black people who eat fried chicken?
Of course, because he's a racist.
OK, when I saw this video, this is supposed to be some kind of campaign ad, I guess, for Joe Biden.
This is brand new.
I tweeted this out earlier today.
I don't care what your politics are, but please, if you're, you know, thinking of voting for Joe Biden, watch this video and tell me he shouldn't be in an old people's home.
Play cut.
Well, I mean, you got chicken fingers.
Making sure I had it.
So tell me about you guys.
What you doing these days?
Why don't you share about your passion in sports?
I'm playing AAU basketball right now.
Are you really?
Are you a guard?
Yes, sir.
Now, what grade are you in?
7th grade.
How can you think Eric, how can you think that that should be the president, and not just somebody, you know, eating his applesauce in an old people's home?
I mean, I like fried chicken as much as anyone else, but come on, man, he might as well have thrown in watermelon while he was at it, like, that is... Well, forget about the menu, but just like, uh, uh, uh, here, burgers, chicken.
I mean, seriously, he's a donnerer!
They really are, they have nothing left.
I think it's true, like what Lord Black and others have said, I think they are really starting to turn on him at this point.
And what, what, this is the best pairing.
What did his press secretary say?
Karine Jean-Pierre actually thinks you're going to believe this about that, that dodderer.
Cut 13.
What the president hasn't been able to get done, uh, on behalf of the, of the American people.
Uh, and look, I'll quote a little bit of, uh, what the first lady said.
Uh, I think incredibly well, just a couple of days ago, uh, president Biden does more in one hour than most people do in a day.
President Biden does more in one hour than most people do in a day.
Well, if your metric is falling upstairs four times, yeah, probably more than anybody else does in one day.
There is no limit to their lives.
But it gets even better.
The man who's just been promoted to assistant to the president, a disgrace to the uniform he once wore, Admiral Kabul Kirby, he got asked a really good question.
Why on Super Bowl Sunday does your boss launch a video on the Chinese platform TikTok?
It's got an interesting non-answer.
Cut seven.
Why did the president allow this campaign?
The president allows campaign to go on TikTok despite the national
security review of the platform?
I'd have to refer you to the campaign.
But I mean it's still the president of the United States.
He's still sending, the president is sending a message to Americans
about the national, about the safety of TikTok by doing that.
I'd have to refer you to the campaign on that decision.
You're the national security spokesperson and you don't have an answer?
We banned TikTok in the White House under President Trump for government employees, but you're fine with it because, hey, China.
Am I right, Kabul Kirby?
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She said quote I am ready to serve there's no question about it
Mr. President!
They express concerns about your mental acuity.
They say that you are too old.
Mr. President, in December, you told me that you believe there are many other Democrats who could defeat Donald Trump.
So why does it have to be you now?
What is your answer to that question?
Because I'm the most qualified person in this country to be President of the United States and finish the job I started.
I think that is a historic press conference for so many reasons.
First of which, they have turned against him.
Does it really mean the media and the permanent bureaucracy or just the media?
Who better To expound upon that question and what we do about, I'm not going to call it the deep state, it's you're in the face state, the man who has been fighting them relentlessly from inside and outside government, a great patriot, a friend of America First.
Kash Patel, welcome back to One on One.
Sav, it's so good to be back on the program.
Thanks for having me.
So I want to kind of dedicate this hour to the so what of a piece I recently wrote about the second Trump cabinet that of course lists you.
You're the only guy who gets the choice of position he wants because you're such a utility player.
We can put you anywhere and you'll just start, you know, rolling bodies out into the Potomac That's a metaphor, Media Matters.
So we'll talk about the reality of what happens, God willing, if we win in November.
But first, because you're so perfectly positioned to hypothesize about this question, I need you to help me to unpack the Robert Herr report.
I will just read one segment from it.
In his interview with our office, Mr Biden's memory was worse than that.
He did not remember when he was vice president.
Forgetting the first day of the interview, when his term ended, whether it was 2013.
When did I stop becoming vice president?
And forgetting on the second day of the interview, when his term began.
In 2009, am I still vice president?
He did not remember, even within several years, when his son Bo died.
Okay, Kash Patel, you've been a prosecutor for the DOJ, you have been, you know, Chief Expert for Intelligence on the committee, in the House, you've been Chief of Staff of the Pentagon, Deputy of National Intelligence.
What are the possible scenarios why somebody who Albeit a Trump appointee, really is a swamp dweller.
Why a special counsel appointed by this DOJ, Biden's DOJ, kind of drops the political kill shot in this 388 page report.
What's going on?
Is he doing somebody's bidding or is he an outlier?
Help us understand, Cash.
Oh, this is the deep state at its peak.
This guy who is running under the cover, the pretense that Merrick Garland gave him as some sort of Trump appointee, so he's doing legitimate work, just issued a criminal indictment masquerading as a political hit job combined with a get out of jail free card for Joe Biden.
Look, the Democrats aren't stupid.
They want Biden out.
He can't be their nominee.
He's going to get rolled by President Trump.
So this is the exit ramp.
And as a prosecutor, when you see someone who intentionally removes classified documents for 40 years to three separate locations to include classified material that has the heading, top secret, SCI, code word, restricted handling, that's about as bad as it gets under the Espionage Act.
Any other individual, except you and I, would be charged and in prison right now.
Joe Biden gets the Hillary Clinton, James Comey treatment.
We're going to create another excuse that doesn't exist in the law so we can not legally charge you, but politically damn you.
And that's what they've done here.
And I've told Congress publicly, there needs to be a public hearing with Robert Herr and Merrick Garland sitting side by side where everybody gets to ask their questions and ask these people why this two-tier system of justice exists and why they, the Biden administration, is allowed to destroy evidence of criminality and simply provide an excuse that says, oh, he cooperated.
That's like saying when I was a public defender and I walked into court and I said, Hey, judge, you remember when my guy robbed a bank for a hundred grand?
Here's a hundred grand back.
Don't charge anybody.
Yeah.
So it, so it reminds me of that surreal press conference.
What was it a month before the 2016 election where the then director of the FBI For 13 minutes, says, Hillary committed these crimes, these felonies, unsecured server, top secret SCI, somebody duplicated communications from a secure facility, took them out of the secure facility, uploaded them, sent them via email to her, you know, server in her bathroom.
13 minutes, slam dunk, going to prison, you and me would be, you know, rotting forever there.
And then in the last 60 seconds, something out of Willy Wonka says, Me, the director of the FBI, am deciding not to prosecute because I have no constitutional right to do that.
So it seems like we've gone back in a time warp to 2016 whereby we have 387 pages of these are the hundreds of classified documents that he quote willfully retained as vice president as senator for 40 years but A jury, because I am now the jury, would not prosecute him because he's a senile dotard.
Is this exactly just a redo of Comey saving Hillary?
Yeah, and that's the consequence of it, right?
Remember when it happened, we excoriated him for one, creating a separate level of the law that doesn't exist, and two, for breaking the law.
As the director of FBI, you have no say in who gets charged.
That is the sole proprietary decision under the law of the Department of Justice's prosecutors.
He seized it because he wanted to be the political king and cover up his malfeasance in Russiagate, which he knew was coming.
And now he set a precedent to allow Robert Hurst, since the American public aren't going to distinguish between FBI and DOJ authorities and the government gangsters are going to come in there and take advantage of it.
He's going to be like, oh, no, no, we did this last time.
Nothing to see here.
Literally exact same fact pattern as you outlined.
Literally the exact same culprits.
Two Democrats.
One was running for president and the other is currently running for president again.
And they get they gave them a get out of jail free card.
This is a dangerous precedent of the weaponization of justice.
And Comey, excuse me, Garland and his special counsel Robert Herr, they need to get a public inquisition on how this was allowed to happen.
Can you explain whether there is precedence?
Does a special counsel in advance make decisions as to what a jury will or will not say?
Is that like standard procedure?
It doesn't matter what kind of title you have.
A prosecutor is a prosecutor.
There's no distinction between authorities.
You follow the same rule of law, period.
You, the prosecutor, do not supplant the role of the jury, nor do you supplant the role of the judge.
That's why there's three separate entities in a courtroom, prosecution.
You make a charging decision.
If the law and the facts meet the burden of proof, you charge.
You charge, you charge.
And if you lose that trial, that's a separate story and a separate issue.
That doesn't mean that the defendant wasn't criminally culpable.
It just means a jury of his peers acquitted him and found him not guilty.
But that's not your call as a prosecutor to steal the entire system of justice just because you wanted a political endpoint.
And remember, let's remind everybody who Robert Herr is.
He's Rod Rosenstein's number two.
He's his protege.
Explain that.
Explain the massive significance of Rod Rosenstein being his mentor.
Yeah, when we, Devin and I were exposing Russiagate and were forced to go to then Dag Rosenstein's office in DOJ because we executed so many subpoenas, do you know who was sitting on the right of Rod Rosenstein in every one of those meetings?
Robert Herr.
And do you know what Rod Rosenstein was doing?
Hustling to get Robert Herr confirmed to be his successor as a U.S.
attorney in Maryland, as if horse trading off congressional subpoenas so he could get his buddy in the role he used to hold.
It was disgraceful then, it's disgraceful now.
Those two individuals have ruined the Department of Justice more so than Merrick Garland and Chris Raab.
That's why we invite him on the show.
For the inside scoop, just like that, Robert Herr is one of the worst swamp dwellers mentees.
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I just want to put a bow on what we discussed with regards to Special Counsel Robert Herr, an acolyte of Rod Rosenstein.
Report the President directly at DonaldJTrump.com.
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I just want to put a bow on what we discussed with regards to Special Counsel Robert Herr,
an acolyte of Rod Rosenstein.
There is quite a large dissonance within the left, even in the power centers.
So you've got that document dropping.
Then you've got, you know, support from the likes of Carville saying, you know, he's too old, he's got to go.
And then you've got the Super Bowl memes of dark Brandon with the laser eyes, Jill Biden saying, No, no, he's fine.
He's the sharpest he's ever been and the, you know, the idiots on MSNBC.
It sounds as if there's a bit of disarray on the left and the plan to get rid of their own president isn't quite the plan and there's an internal disagreement and quite a significant one.
Do you share my read, Cash?
I do.
You're right.
They are not marching all to the same drumbeat just yet.
But the people that own the democratic institutions in the Democratic Party are the ones pulling the puppet strings.
It's not the coffee guy in the morning on MSNBC's Joe and Meeker or whatever they are.
It's the billionaire Soros funded back radical left wing agenda lunatics.
that pull the puppet strings because they pull the billions.
I think they're in lockstep to get rid of Biden, and I think that's why it will happen.
Whether or not the tail comes around to the proverbial head and gets in sync, I'm not really sure.
But at the end of the day, I don't think it matters on these minuscule shows that no one watches except their
relatives, because the ownership of their movement, that's the
difference.
They are bought and paid for like Nikki Haley.
The ownership of their movement will determine who the next nominee is.
And it ain't going to be Joe Biden.
I agree with you.
I think that press conference we played at the top, that's it.
That's the death knell.
He's done.
If the domesticated lapdog media are screaming at him for the first time in three years, he's done.
political scenario.
Is it parachute in Newsom at the convention when he's forced to say health reasons, family, yada yada, I'm stepping down as president?
Or is there another scenario that's possible?
I'm not the like campaign genius, but that's the only way I see it happening.
And the Democrats are ruthless enough to do that maneuver, they would actually take A candidate for president who had gone through the entire primary and won all the delegates and then stripped them of it.
I mean, just think if the Republicans did that.
If the Republican nominee was Trump and then at the convention, the Republican convention stripped Donald Trump of the nomination and airdropped to Nikki Haley, it would never happen on our side because we follow the law and the rules and we actually uphold the Constitutional Republic.
They will essentially eviscerate the democratic process To try to rob yet another presidential election.
So I don't see it happening really before the convention because there's no way to rack up the delegates you need to get the nomination.
I just see that there's a way for them to take it away at the convention.
And with the H.E.R.
report, another case against President Trump just collapse it, does it not?
Well, it would if we had a uniform system of justice.
The classified documents case, I think in Florida, would simply go away.
You know, if I was the judge down there, I'd be asking them, wait a second, so someone who intentionally possesses classified documents Um, is not to be charged by the Department of Justice?
What is this case doing before me right now?
Why I would, I would get Jack Smith to appear before me as the judge and literally hold him in contempt of court because the Department of Justice is prosecuting based on two different systems of law.
It is the judge's job, after all, to interpret the law.
And if DOJ is telling her there's two legal avenues, one for innocence and one for guilt based on politics, That should be publicly noted by the judge.
And as a former defender, as a prosecutor, it seems like all of these are either delayed or collapsing.
If we look at the one that doesn't, you know, is not a federal case in Georgia, Fannie Willis, I mean, she seems to be the one who's in more trouble than the president now.
Do you concur?
Yeah, with Lovebirds 2.0 down there.
First we had Strzok and Page at Russiagate.
Now we got these guys down there and we're learning that they use federal funding to prosecute Donald Trump in state court.
Forget their, you know, love affair activity.
It's a problem if you're an officer of the court and you lie.
That's a violation of your canons of ethics.
But they benefited monetarily from the prosecution of a political opponent and flew around the country and the world on cruise ships and airplanes and took their families with them,
and they spent three-fourths of a million dollars on it.
Our taxpayer dollars, Seb, on that.
So Congress needs to haul them up to D.C. yesterday and put them in front of the public side by side,
just like we did with Strzok and Page, and demand answers.
And oh, by the way, Seb, how come we don't have their text messages and emails?
Don't you think there's some information on there the American public should know?
And what about the fact that both he, the lovebird, and also Letitia James, the H.E.
of New York, have been logged on numerous occasions visiting the Biden White House.
What are they coordinating on?
Is it yoga classes like Hillary and her emails?
It's worse, Seb.
It just came out that Fannie Willis, whatever her name is, Yeah.
gave direct access to her prosecutorial files to Michael Isikoff.
And for those of you who aren't tracking who Michael Isikoff is,
he was the guy who ginned up the fake news story in Yahoo News at the behest of the FBI,
which the FBI then utilized to get an unlawful warrant against President Trump.
What is a member of the media doing gaining access to an ongoing criminal prosecution of someone who is going to be the presidential nominee for the Republican Party?
That's illegal in and of itself.
And now it shows you the whole point of what they're doing.
They wanted to craft the narrative that President Trump is guilty while trying to prosecute him in a court of law unlawfully.
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All right, I want to get into the weeds for the next question before we talk about what happens after November, if God willing we do our part.
So in my latest article, The second Trump cabinet that is, you know, on my substack.
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It's the featured article on the substack.
You are one of the key players there for numerous positions, whether it's director of intelligence, DOJ or FBI.
Here's the geeky question for you.
I was brainstorming with my wife, Katie, who, as you know, was a presidential appointee at DHS, and we're looking at, having lived in DC for almost 20 years, we just look at the bloat.
We look at the Ukraine money, we look at the new headquarters for the FBI, and we sat there and we thought, How much could we, like, swingingly cut the budgets of the IC, the intelligence community in the Pentagon, and be as safe, but not waste the funds of the government or the funds of the taxpayer?
And I came up with a figure of between 50 and 60 percent.
We could cut budgets and get rid of all the stuff that's bloat, that is, you know, money for the DNC indirectly for their buddies.
And then I looked at your special portfolio and I looked at why do we have 17 intelligence
agencies and I said we could do the job of protecting America with six.
Here's the six.
Foreign military intelligence, right, like what the Defense Intelligence Agency does.
Counterterrorism, that's two.
Counterintelligence, catching and misinforming foreign spies.
Foreign external intelligence, like the CIA.
And then signals intelligence and satellite intelligence.
That's six agencies.
You've been inside the sausage factory, at the Pentagon, running it, at the Office of Director of National Intelligence.
How much bloat is there?
And if President Trump comes back, how much could we slash budgets by to make these agencies efficient and accountable cash?
I think lots is the answer, as you've outlined.
And look, these agencies have become so institutionalized that they don't showcase their success by their work product.
They showcase their success by going to Congress and asking for a bigger budget because they need more hires and they need more billets so they need more American taxpayer dollars.
And that is not how you approach the national security of this country.
You don't say the Director of National Intelligence and his office is successful.
Because we increased the budget by 22%.
Right.
What is the need to doing that?
And then when you grow the budget by that much, it has to grow again by that much the next year.
And you force people into positions and to justify their existence when you never needed them in the first place.
And do you know what those people then become a part of?
The deep state.
Right.
They go out and justify their existence by saying, oh, well, we have to be here.
Congress said we're needed.
And look, you have to come in with a two-pronged approach, in my opinion.
You have to cut a number of people right off the bat.
And then over the years, you have to work with Congress to shrink the billets.
Yes.
A lot of these positions that most people don't realize actually sit empty.
That means Congress and the American taxpayer are paying for thousands of seats in U.S.
government that no human being sits in.
Because these agencies and departments are like, look how much we've grown.
We need these seats.
We need these billets.
You never know when we're going to need them back.
And then just before October in the fiscal year, they have to spend all the money that they've been justifying with empty billets, right?
Yeah.
Have you ever heard of an agency or department returning money to Congress?
They can.
They're allowed to, but they don't.
They never do.
We talked to Kash Patel.
He is the author of Government Gangsters.
Go to the website right now, governmentgangsters.com and follow him on true social.
At Kash, that's with a K. We're coming to you from the reliefhankter.com studios.
Finally, with respect to our recommendation to the Department of Justice.
In our system, the prosecutors make the decisions about whether charges are appropriate based on evidence that the FBI helps collect.
Although we don't normally make public our recommendations to the prosecutors, we frequently make recommendations and engage in productive conversations with prosecutors about what resolution may be appropriate, given the evidence.
In this case, given the importance of the matter, I think unusual transparency is in order.
Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.
That's so weird.
You're not a prosecutor.
It's called the Federal Bureau of Investigation!
Not prosecution, Jim Comey!
Hmm, I wonder where Robert Herr, special counsel, got his script for saying, oh yeah, Biden's guilty of sin, but a jury wouldn't convict because he's senile.
We've seen it all before.
We're back with Kash Patel, the man who knows Oh man, does he know the depth, the rot of the deep state in his book, Government Gangsters.
Get it today, governmentgangsters.com.
Cash, I want to ask you what we do day one if, you know, God willing, the right thing happens in November and President Trump wins.
But first, for those who haven't read the book, I'd like to reel them in.
I'd like to, you know, make sure they read the book.
Give our minutes of listeners right now one thing that you substantiate that nobody else has that will shock them from the book.
I think whether it's Russiagate or Jan6 we took the receipts Just like we always have, from the government themselves.
And we put them in the book.
We took the DOD, the DOJ, Pelosi's letter, Bowser's letter, the Capitol Peace Timeline.
We put them in the book.
And they're front and center now, because the insurrection narrative that they have ginned up falsely against President Trump is before—or going before the U.S.
Supreme Court.
And the Colorado case is going to get bounced.
But they're going to continue that narrative of fake news.
And it took us two years, when I was chief of staff at DOD and left, to show the American public the truth, that it was Nancy Pelosi and Mayor Bowser who shut down the request for National Guard that President Trump had authorized days before.
And we have Colorado judges acting like jackals of justice in their robes, lying about the National Guard, lying about the defense.
Shame on them.
And I think that's one of the things that we did in the book, Bess, was we took their own words, their own documents, and put it out there.
That's probably why Joe Biden spent 10 months trying to block my manuscript from coming out.
But the cheat sheet's in the back, too.
We took 280 pages or whatever it is and put it into six pages, so you can have the DC read if you want.
Just like when Harry met Sally, read the last chapter first.
I like that phrase, jackals of justice.
The book is Government Gangsters, governmentgangsters.com.
Alright, I'd like, I don't want us to give away any game plan, because first we have to win, then we have to take back the country.
From those who just have full disregard for the will of the American people, it's up to us, God willing.
I've spoken to lots of people who should be in the know, former cabinet members who would be cabinet members again.
I understand there is a plan for hundreds of executive orders to be dropped on day one, to bring us back to a place of safety, with a border, with national security, getting rid of critical race theory, getting rid of diversity and And inclusion, you know, neo-Marxist paradigms across government.
And then, you know, we have to have our people in those agencies from the beginning of the transition phase right up till the inauguration and then flood the zone.
Is there something else, Cash, that is essential to reversing the deep state or the in-your-face state that we aren't talking enough about?
I think your show does it brilliantly, and not too many others do.
It's continuing to educate the American electorate on the lies they have been told by some in the media.
And I'm talking about everything from Russiagate, to the 51 Intel letter, to Hunter Biden's laptop, to Joe Biden's classified documents case, to Hillary Clinton, to Benghazi, to January 6th and forward.
Every time one of these election-rigging con jobs comes forward, It is courtesy of the government gangsters in government and senior positions there and some of their corrupt conspirators in the mainstream media.
And I'm not talking about all the media, but we have to bring in more people under our tent as we go in the lead up to the election.
We can't just do it the week before.
And we can't say, ha ha, we were right, you were wrong.
We just got to say, look, you were lied to.
How about you get the truth and vote based on the truth?
And I think if we do that, I think Donald Trump wins in a landslide.
We finally, under Donald Trump's leadership, turned the tide of where people get their news.
Now we just got to keep giving them the truth.
And they'll cut off MSNBC and CNN and the New York Times and the Washington Post.
And nobody cares about their fake news con jobs except the people that own those institutions.
And I think if we keep doing that, it is going to be a critical component to Donald Trump's victory.
Really good answer.
In addition to the work being done right now, On the Russia hoax on January 6th by, you know, the likes of Breitbart, John Solomon, Revolver News, Julie Kelly, all the good guys that we know out there, the Federalists and elsewhere.
What is a story or an issue that deserves more focus that maybe isn't getting enough by our side?
Well, we haven't talked about the CCP in a hot minute because Joe Biden has made a disaster of our border and he started two world wars or allowed them to start in the Ukraine and in Israel and we're so preoccupied with the border Russia and Tehran and Israel that no one's even talking about the South China Sea and the CCP in Taiwan, which used to be one of our biggest allies and the key to the Indo-Pacific theater, which is the largest combatant command in the Department of Defense.
And, you know, quite frankly, the largest place on planet Earth when it comes to areas we have to cover.
And, you know, Xi Jinping's probably having a party over there because no one's paying attention and the rocket man's launching rockets again.
In that same theater and no one's paying attention.
So, um, but you know, thanks to Joe Biden, you know, he just got back on Tik TOK, the very device and company we under the Trump administration banned because it's the digital fentanyl, the CCP.
And this guy's now campaigning on Tik TOK.
I just wonder how much money Hunter Biden got from his buddies in Beijing to make sure his daddy's back on the communist-owned TikTok platform.
Stunning.
There are those who are pushing that issue.
You've got to, you know, recognize Steve Bannon, our buddy Gordon Chang, and a handful of Gordon Chang and others.
But yeah, we need more.
We need much more.
All right.
Excellent answer.
We're talking to the author of Government Gangsters, governmentgangsters.com.
Check it out today.
All right, well, that just went far too bloody quickly, as it usually does with Cash.
Make sure you are following him.
Make sure you are reading his book, Government Gangsters.
He's on True Social at Cash.
That's with a K. Last question.
probably the one that worries the listeners and viewers for our show the most and probably
most of MAGA and that's election integrity. I think there's one great positive. Nancy's
not the speaker and until they announce, you know, COVID-24, there's no new Wu flu that
they can use as an excuse to mail out 81 ballots to people who didn't ask for them.
So we're starting off a little bit better than 2020.
But talk to us in the last couple of minutes we have about your concerns for election integrity in the next nine months.
Election integrity is critical, but I think we've learned the massive lesson that it's up to the states to figure it out.
And if I can bring it home right here to my home state of Nevada and just recently coming off the dual victories in Nevada where we were able to deliver, help Donald Trump with that victory over Nikki Haley on the primary versus the caucus.
This is how far I think people are in the weeds on elections.
And this is why I think it goes back to getting out the truth that it has.
People thought Nikki Haley would come in here on the primary and get the media victory.
She lost to literally no one because Nevadans cared so much about the truth and about replacing her that they filled in a bubble.
Then two days later, they showed up in record numbers at the caucus, which is the only thing that matters out here, and delivered it 99% for Donald Trump.
So if we could just take that micro-level example and put it out to the rest of the country, I think election integrity is being participated in by the electorate.
And to us, Seb, that's our big win.
If we can mobilize everyone out there, not just the MAGA movement, but the moderates and such, then I think we're winning behind Donald Trump's leadership.
And I think Nevada showed it behind Donald Trump's great policies.
Nevada as an exemplar of how it's done.
When that rhino with TDS who's being backed by left-wing Obama donors like Reid Hoffman loses to the none of the above candidates, right?
You know that we can do it.
But you have to get engaged.
Understand the enormity of the challenge and what can be done about it.
Start with the end.
Start with the six-page appendix.
The book that Biden's deep state tried to stop is Government Gangsters from our friend Kash Patel.
Go to governmentgangsters.com today and follow him on Truth Social at Kash with a K. I'm Sebastian Gawker.
This is America First.
Show the world whose side you are on.
We don't have time for shy MAGA.
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