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	We'll be talking national security with our very good friend Jim Carrafano later in the first hour.
	But Let me welcome, there's no monologue right now because we like to exploit targets of opportunity living as we do, working as we do in the vile swamp that is Washington DC.
	Sometimes you meet interesting people and you need to get them in studio.
	A few days ago I was at the pre-premier premiere of an amazing film.
	It's called Cabrini.
	It's about the first American saint.
	Not Anne Seton.
	That's a mistake.
	We can discuss that on another time.
	But thanks to Jason Jones who organized that invitation for me and my wife.
	I met the following lady who's just come back from a part of the world we are not discussing adequately enough.
	I know we are distracted by domestic politics, by what's happening in the Middle East.
	The solemn transfer just occurred at Dover with Biden.
	I don't even want to say this.
	Standing there as three of our dead service members were transferred by the US Army to eventually be laid to rest.
	But there's another war that's been going on for more than a year.
	One that we thought would never see the likes again in Europe, tank warfare, conventional warfare on the continent of Eurasia.
	What's really happening in Ukraine?
	We have with us Valentina Pavsoukova, who is the founder and the president of Chalice of Mercy.
	Valentina, welcome to America First!
	Thank you, thank you for inviting me to be here.
	So, we'll talk about what Ukraine is going through right now, what you've seen in your recent trip.
	You are from Ukraine.
	Would you first explain to us what your organization Chalice of Mercy does, what your mission is?
	Yeah, so it was founded 17 years ago and it was founded because I experienced very powerful conversion here in the United States.
	I grew up in a very ordinary family.
	It was just times of Soviet Union, you know, the Communist Party was watching everybody very strongly and luckily, thankfully to God, I was baptized and it was underground baptism.
	In Ukraine?
	In Ukraine.
	Yes, during the time.
	It was 1983.
	So, my parents baptized me rather with a superstitious reasons, you know, like many young children.
	Just in case.
	Just in case God exists.
	Yes, exactly.
	So, they got in a very serious trouble the day after my father was called to the office.
	Why?
	Somebody found out?
	Oh yeah, because there were spies at every door.
	The KGB agency worked really strongly within the Russian Orthodox Church.
	Powerfully.
	The Orthodox Church was part of the state?
	Yes.
	So what happened to your parents after they baptized you?
	Yeah, so they had to really respond to why they've done it, and they had to prove that it was a rather superstitious reason.
	So I grew up in an atmosphere without faith, without practicing anything about God, but my grandmother was the most religious person in our family.
	Because she knew the Our Father prayer, and she had an icon in the corner of her room.
	And when I was about seven years old, she called me and she said, Valentina, I need to teach you something that my grandmother taught me.
	And she said, in case God exists, she said this word, in case God exists, you need to know this prayer.
	And so she taught me the Our Father.
	And she said, when it's going to be difficult for you in your life, You remember this prayer.
	And I came as a young immigrant.
	I won a green card lottery when I was 18.
	So I came as an 18-year-old to the United States without speaking English, without knowing anybody really.
	And then what did you do here?
	Yeah, so I just finished the beauty college.
	Cosmetics?
	Yeah, because my mother is a stylist.
	She wanted me to be one.
	And so I just finished and when I basically came here I tried to apply for a license here in the United States.
	And that's what my primary work was.
	I worked as a hairstylist for some time.
	Until I remembered what my grandmother taught me when it's going to be so difficult for you in your life.
	You remember this prayer.
	So I reached to the point where I think a lot of young people reach, where you just don't know what's going to be in front of you and you just don't want how it is now.
	And I prayed, and I experienced the presence of God as the merciful and loving Father in my life.
	And I was really drawn to the Catholic Church, extremely drawn, because I was watching many black and white movies.
	My English, I studied through the movies, actually, and subtitles, you know, good English, perfect English, you know, in old movies.
	And so I would see the Catholic Church and this man wearing black and just having something white in here.
	And sisters always had rosary.
	I didn't know what those are and I just really want to have one of them.
	So I decided it was a decision.
	So if I'll ever go to the church, it will be Catholic Church.
	I knew nothing about Catholic Church.
	I had no computer.
	I had no internet.
	It was 2001.
	So you learned the real way.
	Yeah, and so... And when does the idea of creating a charity come along?
	Yeah, so this is why I wanted to go to Ethiopia.
	I felt that I need to give my life.
	I just felt it so strong that I wanted to dedicate my life in some very, very real way.
	So, I thought Africa, Ethiopia, hard mission work, you know, I'll be doing there whatever needs to be done.
	I was going to sign Peace Corps organization contract and go with them.
	But then I was reading Mother Teresa and she always, basically her point was, if you come to Kolkata, you have to go back home and find your neighbor, find your family and take care for them.
	So, and that what made me want to start a non-profit, Chalice of Mercy, and that mission would definitely carry the most important message, is that God is loving and merciful Father.
	And here, something important, because people in my country, through the tradition of Russian Orthodoxy, they thought that God is a judge, even if they give a courage to open their heart, at least a little bit for Him.
	So it is not exciting to be judged all the time.
	Yeah, strict father.
	Strict father, yes.
	So my mission was to them that he's a merciful and loving father.
	And the second one is that understanding what Russian... I don't know if you know that Lenin was the first one in the world, and Russia was the first country in the world, legalizing abortions.
	Before he died, he signed this permission, abortion on demand.
	And that really was not targeted necessarily to the Russian woman.
	It was targeted to the Ukrainian woman and all the other little countries that he wanted to submit.
	He wanted to be minorities.
	And that became our mission, to defend life in my country.
	And to try to help especially gynecology doctors with which I worked, many of them.
	More than 1500 doctors traveled on the pilgrimages of life.
	I call them pilgrimages of life.
	Maybe I can share about this later.
	But I have to say it is not that hard and rather easy to explain to my people why, especially now, You know, that it is also ideology of Russia to destroy life in a womb, you know, and we cannot permit that, especially with the decline of population in my country now.
	We're talking to Valentina Pavchukova.
	The organization is Chalice of Mercy.
	We're going to find out what she has discovered in Ukraine, a nation still at war.
	Please go to chaliceofmercy.org.
	If you are pro-life, chaliceofmercy.org.
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	What Ukraine is suffering right now, but before the war, tell me what your mission was, what
	were you doing in Ukraine?
	So since the So, since 2011, I was organizing pilgrimages to Bosnia-Herzegovina, Madrigoria.
	Madrigoria.
	And so I was inviting doctors from different regions of Ukraine to come on a free trip.
	I had somebody who was sponsoring, helping us, a man from England.
	Yeah, and so he traveled to Medjugorje one time only, well he traveled many times since, but when he came it was like two hours and he was convinced that he has to help as many people as possible to know this place.
	He's a very wealthy man of England, but he wanted to dedicate basically the rest of his life to helping people to convert.
	There's something so powerful within him.
	So that's what I've been doing.
	More than 1,500 doctors traveled.
	Many of them said, no, I will never do this.
	But these are secular or orthodox?
	Absolutely secular.
	They don't even know how to make the sign of the cross.
	These people.
	So how do you convince them to go to Medjugorje?
	It's a free trip through Croatia.
	It's beautiful.
	And it's a pilgrimage place.
	So it's mountains.
	It's beautiful.
	And so they just want to come because rather of these things first, you know, but there I speak to them about their dignity because they have lost that as well.
	And how can anybody care for The fruit of somebody else's womb, if they don't even care about themselves.
	Right, right.
	You know, so that's the point that I try to bring to them.
	We always have a priest, and believe it or not, the first day when we climbed the mountain where Didi appeared, so I give them the rosaries, and by the time that we actually reach the point where the statue is, they already know how to pray it by heart, Hail Mary.
	And how do you recruit them?
	How do you find them?
	So the first group when I done, they came so absolutely recharged, you know, they came amazed and they were sharing with their doctors and their doctors with their doctors.
	So we actually never advertise it anywhere and I don't advertise it to, you know, here this is what we do because I feel that the greatest testimony is that what they can bring to their colleagues, to the maternity centers, to abortion centers, And many doctors, they actually, you know, I mean, they perform these abortions for money.
	The latest term, the latest trimester is the more money, you know, they...
	And right now, actually, reproductive business, reproductive system business in my country has reached, maybe not so much now, but before the war, absolute top level.
	You mean abortion industry?
	Abortion industry is the last industry.
	In vitro fertilization, donation of sperm and egg, surrogate motherhood.
	I mean the whole world is flocking to literally purchase our children.
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	We're with an amazing lady.
	She is the founder, the president of Chalice of Mercy, Valentina Pavchukova.
	Tell us, it's as if the Ukrainian war is like forgotten.
	Nobody's focusing on it.
	You're fighting for your lives in this nation that has been invaded by a man that has wanted to destroy Ukraine since 1991 and the collapse of the Soviet Union.
	We've only got a couple of minutes left.
	You're talking to millions of people across the country.
	What is the most important thing Americans need to understand about what's happening now, which nobody's talking about?
	Yes, so important thing, I believe, to understand that Vladimir Putin Does not want any negotiations and he does not want to sit down around the table.
	He does not want.
	He made American the most greatest American minds, conservative people of this country, country, people who have the most clearest and purest values.
	Uh, somehow he was able to convince that Ukraine and Ukraine got in a mix and all of this happened.
	That Ukraine provoked it.
	That this absurd ideas.
	Yes, absolutely.
	And that Russia which has nuclear weapons is defending itself From Ukraine.
	I mean, just insane things.
	Absolutely.
	I grew up speaking Russian language.
	I grew up in a most Russian population territory.
	You know, Russian-speaking population.
	Ethnic, right, right, right.
	And so, never have been persecuted.
	Never, never I have experienced any, neither of my family, no.
	So, What I hear here in America is that people believe that Vladimir Putin is pro-family, he is defending family, he is defending life.
	Pro-Christian!
	KGB officer!
	Which has nothing to do with this, and that he doesn't want NATO border to border his country.
	In fact, if he would take country in three days, or a week, or two months, as he was promising to his people, no?
	That he would be neighbouring exactly the borders of NATO, and that's what he wants.
	He wants Russia... And he has said...
	Since he became president that Ukraine, this is 21 years ago, Ukraine is not a real country.
	Poland isn't a real country.
	The Baltic states are illegitimate.
	And these are all parts of Russia.
	He's been saying this for 20 years.
	Yes.
	We have been crying out for 10 years to the United States particularly because Ukraine has been never independent really because we always have been tied with a silk thread to the Red Dragon's tail.
	Sometimes it was looser, sometimes it was really tight, but Vladimir Putin is 28 years in power.
	We are fighting an enemy that is 28 times bigger than us.
	Are Ukrainians ever going to give up?
	Never.
	To the last drop.
	And how is the culture of life?
	Does being at war with people who want to destroy your whole nation, has this reinvigorated the family life, the culture of pro-life?
	How is that situation?
	Yes, so what hurt my heart very much when my friends, particularly from conservative circles, start telling me that you are not a conservative country.
	And which is the most offensive thing for me, because my country is a country that stands for traditional family between men and women.
	We have been pushed to be a pro-abortion country.
	With the help of Biden's State Department?
	With the help of people who want to pay a very big money and invest in my country, that my country will continue to die.
	Yes, it was.
	We give you weapons, but you have to make sure that this particular tolerance will be allowed in your universities and schools.
	LGBTQ, transgender, blah blah blah.
	We'll give you guns as long as you become left-wing.
	Yeah, so in Europe as well.
	You know, so Russia was raping us for over a hundred years and now European Union as well.
	Now, we are thankful for the help we received.
	But we need to remember that Ukraine right now is a bulletproof jacket for entire world.
	We are right now at this You're the tripwire for the West.
	trying not to let in Putin to go forward.
	You are the tripwire for the West.
	You are the nation that is the last warning.
	And the help we receive is something that I would say, if you would gather a thousand
	people and you would give them the bowl of rice, it's not enough to feed them, but you
	cannot say that you didn't get help.
	So this is what is really painful.
	We as a Christian community, and right now I see that in the United States, and about, I believe, I don't know if I'm wrong or right, But 60% of America right now wants to be a conservative country.
	They're turning into, to the beginning, to the roots, right?
	Because it's just we have such a high rate of suicide, of young people are totally lost.
	And so, I think that with the office of the new president that is going to be, I believe, no?
	You mean the new old president?
	New old presidents, yes, for which I think is important to also Say here for the new office and for the people, conservative people in this country, that Ukraine is support every conservative value.
	And for this reason, I organized in June a big summit inviting government officials, explaining to them that what is important to change is our constitution.
	First of all, the life must be defended from the moment of conception that must be changed in my country.
	Constitution.
	I love that.
	All right.
	We need to continue this conversation at another time.
	We're out.
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	do you think joe biden loves this country injury.
	If he did, he certainly wouldn't be trying to destroy it second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour.
	But that's exactly what he's doing.
	He's allowed our economy to drop.
	He's allowed our border to completely collapse.
	Our enemies certainly don't fear us.
	Our allies don't respect us.
	literally every single thing he does is at the destruction and demise of the people in
	this country.
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	China was gonna eat our lunch?
	Well, guess what, man?
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	China's gonna eat our lunch.
	Guess what?
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	Yeah.
	I think we understand what's going on.
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	He is our good buddy, every Friday giving us national security foreign policy analysis.
	You've been a busy boy today.
	You haven't even been to the office today, have you?
	I have not.
	You know, because one of the things we do is everybody wants to understand what happens if a Republican wins the presidency.
	You know, in 2016... A lot of people think it's going to happen.
	Well, in 2016 nobody thought a Republican was going to win.
	And so literally people were unprepared to deal with this.
	And then all they really have is all this blah blah in the media.
	So let's continue the discussion on Ukraine.
	And then you're having all these people, foreign delegations and others, saying, it looks like Trump's going to win.
	What's he going to do?
	Is he going to nuke NATO?
	So could you talk to us about the way he deals with things and the kinds of deals he's going to make?
	This is really important, right?
	Because, oh my god, Trump, and every leftist will tell you this, right?
	Trump is going to, on day one, he's going to make a deal with Putin and he's going to give Ukraine away.
	And it's just...
	Where does this come from?
	So, those of us who, you know, worked with the President, watched him work for many years, we know he is a dealmaker, right?
	Unpack that.
	What does that really mean?
	So, yeah, Trump always puts a deal on the table, but a deal is a tactic.
	A deal is not a strategy.
	A deal is a component of a larger strategy that you put in place, and the purpose of the deal is to go to the bad guy and say, dude, here's your off ramp.
	If you don't want this to go to a place you're not going to like...
	You're gonna take this, right?
	And you're gonna take a deal, and I'll give you something, right?
	Because nobody makes a deal in which everybody doesn't get something, because that's a deal, right?
	But if you don't take that, then you're gonna feel the hammer, right?
	And that's the kind of deal That Trump would put on the table on day one.
	And he said all of this stuff about, you know, he's going to give them the rest of Ukraine.
	He said explicitly, day one, I'm going to tell Zelensky you have to negotiate, and I'm going to tell Putin you need to negotiate, or it's going to get even worse for you.
	Even worse for you!
	So here's what'll happen.
	On day one, Zelensky will say, hell yeah!
	I'm ready to deal, right?
	He's not going to go to Zelensky and say, and you're going to give away more terrain.
	He's not going to do that because no president is going to force a man to give, or that he is going to formally relinquish the right to any territory which is conquered by you.
	That's not on the table.
	So he's not going to force Zelensky to give up anything Zelensky already doesn't own, right?
	And Zelensky's not an idiot.
	Zelensky will take that.
	He goes, dude, I'm with you.
	And it's Putin which will be put in a corner because his choices will be to take a deal which literally puts the status quo in place and is actually quite humiliating for him.
	And what he gets out of that is... Ending a war that's become an albatross.
	Ending a war that's destroying... So it's actually a favor to him, right?
	So, and then he could look like a peacemaker, maybe get an apartment, whatever it is.
	But he probably won't take that deal, right?
	And then it gets interesting.
	Well, like I said, I think... So let me just jump in here, because you meet all of these people behind closed doors.
	You know, all the conservatives from around the world, and all the quote-unquote experts.
	Right, right.
	How in God's... I know how, because I've lived here for 15 years.
	And I've known you for 20 plus.
	How do all these so-called experts so have a former president wrong?
	I mean, he was president and they still talk garbage about him.
	They forget what he did for four years.
	No wars, strongest military, strongest economy.
	How did they get it so wrong, Jim?
	This is super easy to explain.
	It's like people who are an expert on something I think they're an expert on everything, right?
	And so I'll sit in a room with the world's greatest expert on, well, maybe I shouldn't talk about it, okay, on something, and I will agree with 99% of what they say, and then they'll start telling you what's inside Trump's head, and I'm going, where are you getting this?
	You're like, what leads you to believe that this is, what evidence do you have?
	And it's not evidence, it's just like, well, of course, I know, because.
	Because Rachel Maddow said it.
	I remember once, you know, O'Reilly wrote the book, he said, he goes, Trump or Bush was planning to invade Iraq from the day he came into office, which, whatever you think about the Iraq wall, that's just patently factually not true.
	So I'm in a conference and a panel of historians get up and say, Trump, Bush came into office and on day one, you know, he was going to invade Iraq.
	And I'm going, and the evidence for that is they cited the book.
	O'Neill's book, which has no footnotes, no documentary evidence, was written after the fact, which is literally the weakest kind of thing you could quote.
	And these are historians, right?
	The historians we'll discuss in the break who've gone absolutely insane.
	We talked to Jim Carrafano, JJ Carrafano on Twitter.
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	just it's just and and And the thing is, you know me, right?
	I'm a reasonable person.
	If I'm sitting down with somebody and they're making sense, and they happen to be a pink-haired
	liberal with nose rings, I'm not going to disagree with them because I don't want to
	say...
	But if you're talking garbage, basically, right?
	Yeah, then you just...
	You know me, I'm not even...
	I'm not a Republican.
	I don't even...
	You know me, I'm not even, I'm not a Republican.
	I'm not a Republican.
	And I don't have any dog in the fight.
	I'm not going to work for Donald Trump.
	I mean, it's just, I just can't sit there and listen to people speak gibberish and not say, come on.
	But I see this all over the world, right?
	You see this all over the world.
	And a matter of fact, there's a, I can't talk about that either.
	Okay.
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	I want you all to know why this happened.
	I was being treated for prostate cancer.
	The news shook me, and I know that it shakes so many others, especially in the black community.
	It was a gut punch.
	And frankly, my first instinct was to keep it private.
	I don't think it's news that I'm a pretty private guy.
	I never liked burdening others with my problems.
	It's just not my way.
	But I've learned from this experience.
	Taking this kind of job means losing some of the privacy that most of us expect.
	The American people have a right to know if their leaders are facing health challenges that might affect their ability to perform their duties, even temporarily.
	So a wider circle should have been notified, especially the President.
	You think?
	Oh, you're a private individual!
	You're the Secretary of Defense.
	You're the only civilian between the president and our combatant and theater commanders.
	You know, like if we go to nuclear war, I'm so glad you didn't politicize your, quote, apology by saying, now you can relate to blacks.
	You are black.
	What, prostate cancer?
	Is that a black thing?
	Or the most dangerous cancer for men in America?
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	MyPhDWeightLoss.com Jim, I want to talk about the news coming from reliable sources that there are going to be strikes against...
	I don't know.
	Proxies?
	I don't think they're going to bomb Iran coming tonight or over the weekend.
	But before we get to what your expectation of what will happen or what should happen, I'm sorry.
	I'm Secretary of Defense, but I didn't want to tell anybody.
	He's a former four-star general.
	Look, I had to Google this just to make sure I was right.
	So Lloyd Austin went to the U.S.
	Military Academy, which is where I went.
	So he graduated in 75.
	I graduated in 77.
	So I guarantee you that he went through the exact same kind of what's called beast barracks that I did.
	So the first statement that anyone makes to you when you get off the bus and you stand before what they call the guy in the red sash is he said you have four answers.
	Your four answers are yes sir, no sir, no excuse sir, and sir I do not understand.
	Do you understand?
	And then for the next three months you can never say anything to anybody to a superior.
	superior other than those four things. You can't explain, you can't excuse, you
	can say you did something wrong or you did something right and it is no excuse
	sir. So here's a man who's forgotten the first thing he ever learned in military
	in the military about selfless service because when you say I take fully first
	of all there is no excuse for what he did and when you say I take
	accountability for that that means you take accountability for that.
	You don't just say, I take accountability for that and then we'll all be back at work on Monday.
	You take accountability for that.
	But this guy's like 70 something.
	You resigned.
	Yes, because he's not going to change.
	You resigned because you did something.
	And here's the thing.
	We're not worried about the chain of command.
	I'm sure that was fine.
	I'm sure the country is fine.
	I'm sure we wouldn't have a nuclear war.
	The reality is, is Americans should and ought to have transparency and accountability from their senior civilian elected officials.
	And so, for example, if the President of the United States is actually in cognitive decline, the reality is, is he, and all the people around him, kept that from the American people.
	And that is wrong.
	And he can't be president.
	We can argue that.
	We can argue what you do.
	But the reality is, you have an issue which affects your performance in office.
	You do not acknowledge that.
	It's just wrong.
	I remember in the old days, they used to have breaking news!
	President goes to Walter Reed to get cough medicine, right?
	I mean, it was ridiculous, right?
	So, I don't care if he's a fellow graduate, fellow army officer.
	But he knows.
	He has committed something that is dreadful, and he should be held accountable for it.
	All right, so clearly they want to do something.
	We've had the dignified transfer at Dover of the three bodies of the service, members who were murdered in Jordan, okay?
	We're not talking about Somalia, we're not talking about Iraq, we're talking about Jordan.
	There's going to be a response tonight or this weekend.
	What should it be?
	Well, we already know it failed.
	And here's how we know that.
	Because the first thing that we did was he said, well, we're going to speak at a time and a place of our choosing.
	Which sounds really scary, right?
	Like something Freddy Krueger would say, right?
	But then he says, but we don't want World War III here.
	And we are not going to attack Iranian territory.
	To which the Iranians say, if Americans strike Iranian territory, we will crush them.
	Because they can be brave because they know they're not.
	So the Iranians just telegraphed that we know you're not going to hit anything that actually hurts us, so we don't care.
	Breaking news, retaliatory airstrikes underway in Syria.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And you know this, if you want to get somebody's attention, you put at risk the things they value.
	And you don't tell them what you're not going to do.
	They don't really care if you pound the surrogates, right?
	Because they can just buy new surrogates.
	So it's not going to work.
	And here's why it's not going to work.
	People think these guys are lazy.
	They're actually on overdrive.
	Blinken's running around the world.
	They're trying to cut deals.
	They're trying to do this.
	They're trying to do that.
	We've got to keep the normalization with Saudi Arabia going.
	We've got to be confident.
	Keep the Red Sea open.
	It's a lot of energy. What's wrong? Two things are wrong.
	One is it's all reactive. It's not taking control of the situation. It's not shaping. It's
	like the fireman who shows up at the fire scene. He's reacting to the heat. The other thing what's
	wrong is everybody knows why. Because there's an election in November and the president doesn't
	want to fail.
	So he's frantically running around trying to do things, because he doesn't want to fail before November.
	So the energy is not only reactive, it's not coming from, I'm protecting America's interests, I'm going to prevent World War III, this is bad politics for me, so I have to deal with it.
	And the Iranians know that, our allies know that, Hamas knows that, the Israelis know that.
	What's the name of the book you've just released again?
	Oh, it's the Index of U.S.
	Military Strength.
	Index of U.S.
	Military Strength.
	Downloadable at the website.
	Heritage.org.
	Right.
	Get it today.
	It is a superlative analysis every year.
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	Dr. G is ready for anything on America First.
	More breaking news. Sadly, Carl Weathers, he of Rocky fame, Apollo Creed and also Predator as well has passed.
	What did you say, Eric?
	Peacefully in his sleep?
	According to his family, yes.
	He was 76 years old.
	76 years old.
	Just celebrated his 76th birthday last month.
	Rest in peace, Carl Weathers, 1948 to 2024.
	Please say a prayer.
	For his family.
	Okay.
	We mentioned breaking news.
	U.S.
	airstrikes have begun against proxy sites in Syria.
	Most important thing to understand is what?
	What Jim just said.
	Proxies, like militias in Syria, they're expendable.
	Iran can get new ones.
	It won't deter anything.
	Won't make a blind bit of difference.
	If you targeted Iranian assets, or as we did in the Trump administration, killed their number one general.
	Who was actually the mastermind behind the attacks on US forces in the region.
	That's when you have a change of behavior.
	But of course, no.
	This administration doesn't want to annoy Iran.
	They just want to make a gesture.
	Because remember, this is the administration that is trying to resurrect Obama's Iran deal.
	The one that we killed.
	Sir Huckabee Sanders The governor of Arkansas explained it very, very well.
	The difference between their vision and our vision.
	Cut one.
	Do you think Joe Biden loves this country?
	If he did, he certainly wouldn't be trying to destroy it second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour.
	But that's exactly what he's doing.
	He's allowed our economy to drop.
	He's allowed our border to completely collapse.
	Our enemies certainly don't fear us.
	Our allies don't respect us.
	Literally every single thing he does is at the destruction and demise of the people in this country.
	And I think it is Frankly, totally disgraceful and disqualifying for him to be President of the United States if he cannot do the simple job of securing our border, either at the South or the North.
	Good for Jesse, asking that question of my former colleague.
	It's really the only dividing line in America today.
	We talk about Republican, Democrat, okay, because, you know, those are the labels.
	You know, little r, little d, and the parties.
	Doesn't really matter.
	That's not the dividing line.
	That's not the taxonomy.
	That's not the baskets we're in.
	It's one question.
	Do you hate America?
	Or do you love it?
	Do you want to save it?
	Or do you want to destroy it?
	That's what we're going to decide in November.
	Are those who are destroying America going to stay in power?
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	Okay, let's talk about what's happening at the border with a man who's been telling the truth for so very, very long.
	We are delighted to start the second hour of this show with a good friend of America First, Congressman Andy Biggs.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thanks Sheb, good to be with you.
	So I just have to play this cut from the outgoing congressman from Colorado, Ken Buck, who... I guess he doesn't think it's a real problem that the borders open because he's not standing behind the impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas.
	Cut 4, play cut.
	Welcome back to the program, Congressman.
	I know you were previously undecided.
	What led you to decide you will vote no?
	Well, this is not a high crime or misdemeanor.
	It's not an impeachable offense.
	This is a policy difference.
	Let me, from the outset, say there is a crisis on the border.
	The law needs to be enforced.
	But if we start going down this path of impeachment with a cabinet official, we are opening a door as Republicans that we don't want to open.
	The next president who is a Republican will face the same scrutiny from Democrats.
	It's wrong, and we should not set this precedent.
	It's wrong.
	You know, supporting cartels, allowing fentanyl in, 12,000 illegals every single day.
	It looks like there are still some rhinos on Capitol Hill, Congressman.
	Well, you know, I will continue to try to persuade Mr. Buck.
	I talked to him frequently and I thought I had him there.
	So I was kind of surprised by the cut.
	But here's the deal.
	It is.
	Some people say, you know, you got to have a felony for a high crime.
	That's not that's not accurate.
	No.
	And some people also say it can't even be maladministration.
	But I'm going to tell you right now, when you have a cabinet official who says deliberately, willfully, we're going to not enforce the law, what you have is a guy who's not made a policy decision.
	He's made a decision that violates the law.
	And that is a crime.
	When you lie to Congress, that would be a crime as well.
	He's lied to Congress.
	When you sit there and you say to the American people, yeah, I know what the statute says,
	but since nobody can accomplish that, what I'm going to do is I'm going to—we've adopted
	our own definition instead of what the Congress has told us, what the statute says, what a
	previous administration has said.
	We're going to just do it our own way, and we're doing great.
	So, I tell you what, I think it is impeachable, and I think that I'm going to keep working with my colleague there and see if we can Persuade him to come across.
	I hope so, because if there's anybody who should be impeached who's actually put this country at more danger than Alejandro Mayorkas, I don't know who it is.
	And I'll just tell you, I've actually had, in testimony, actually heard someone who voted no on the previous impeachment of Mayorkas.
	They said he's probably the worst cabinet official in the history of the country.
	Yeah, I think this person is absolutely the quintessence of evil, because he worked in the Obama DHS.
	He knows exactly what he's doing by opening those borders and dismantling everything we did in the Trump administration.
	God bless you for continuing to work with your colleagues to try and make sure they understand the threat to America.
	And I know it's the Senate, but you must have a reaction to this deal that nobody's allowed to read, which would codify, codify That 5,000 illegals could come into America every 24 hours?
	How are there so-called Republicans in the Senate who are actually trying to support this bill going through?
	Yeah, it's really interesting.
	You know, we've been criticized for being critical of that because they say, well, you haven't even seen the bill.
	But you know what I have done?
	I've gone over and talked to senators who've been briefed on the contents.
	And, Seb, it's even worse than what you say.
	Because the current briefing indicates that the first 4,000 will get asylum.
	They're going to get asylum.
	And then the next 1,000, they're going to probably get asylum.
	And then the deal is, they're going to lure—if you start granting asylum, and instead of removing and pushing people back, guess what happens?
	You create a bigger pull factor, and these folks just keep coming, and it gets worse and worse.
	So yeah, I actually met with senators this week asking them to tell me about this and they kind of related what they were briefed.
	And they also related that they're going to, they don't think it's going to, I believe this is the case too, it's going to be very difficult for Republicans to actually come around and vote for this.
	I don't think they're going to get enough Republicans to actually get this horrible bill across the finish line.
	So let me answer this question that I've been asking all of our big guests here on the show all week.
	We're talking to Congressman Andy Biggs, Arizona's 5th congressional district.
	Please follow him at RepAndyBiggsAZ on Twitter and Biggs.House.Gov.
	Is it just a kind of switcheroo, or is it really an indication that they're in big trouble?
	That for three years we've been told, there's no problem, there's no problem, we're just fixing the broken system Trump and his team created, and in the last eight days it, oh my gosh, there's a problem!
	And, you know, the Democrat mayor of New York is saying, This is going to destroy our city.
	The governor, Hokel, is saying, oh my gosh, these people should be deported if they're criminals.
	Is this just a desperation move?
	Or does this bode well for the good guys like yourself who want to fix things?
	I think it's a little of both, but mostly a desperation play.
	This is a Hail Mary pass.
	And the reason I say that, and the reason that you know it's true, to Indisha, The House Democrats, 150 of them voted not to remove people from the country who commit social security fraud.
	And 155 of them said DUI is not a serious enough offense to remove an illegal alien.
	I mean, think about that.
	It's not enough of an offense to remove these people if they commit fraud or drive drunk.
	So that's one indication.
	The other indication that you have is that they've come up with this goofy plan that we were talking about from the Senate.
	So they realize, oh, we've got to have some plan, but we're not going to do anything really serious in that plan.
	We're not going to go ahead and shut the border down, but we're going to do this thing that if it If it is anywhere near what my briefers told me, you're going to actually authorize 1.8 million people to illegally enter the country with the vast majority of those being granted asylum perfunctorily.
	So that tells me that they know they're in trouble.
	And they're willing to do something to just kind of disguise it.
	But those two in dishes right there also indicate to me pretty clearly that they have no serious interest in actually fixing a problem that Americans recognize.
	So let's, we've got 90 seconds left on that issue.
	If things go well, God willing, President Trump is re-elected, we hold the House, we win back the Senate.
	Is your team, is the Republican Party, Does it have the requisite backbone to support what the President, Tom Homan, Mark Morgan want to do, which is to deport all the illegal aliens that this administration has allowed into the country?
	Will we have the stomach to do that, Congressman?
	Well, let me tell you, I'm going to be perfectly candid.
	Most will.
	The question is, will enough?
	Because the reality is, That's what needs to happen, and when you start doing that, you break it for a generation, because now everybody looks at it and says, well, you know, we got deported last time we went in, or others got deported, and you create this general and specific deterrence.
	But if you don't do that, I'm going to tell you that you're going to continue to see a run on the border.
	President Trump's going to do a great job, and he's going to tell his CBP and ICE, we're going to remove these people.
	And I think it'll happen de facto, to be frank with you, because I don't think there'll be enough will to actually overturn that through budgetary constraints, and that's where it would be.
	So I do think we're going to do that, but will there be enough people to actually affirmatively support it?
	We'll wait and see.
	It's up to the listeners of this show.
	If they don't see the light, let them feel the heat, as the famous man just said.
	Keep doing what you do, Congressman, at RebAndyBiggsAZ on Twitter, Biggs.House.Gov.
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	You You
	You Why would we do anything right now to help him with that 33%?
	Do you believe if Joe Biden's approval rating was at 53%, we would even be talking about the border?
	We wouldn't be talking about the southern border.
	But he has to do something because he's hemorrhaging, he's bleeding.
	So what he's going to try to do is try to come up with some border security plan, bipartisan through the Senate, that is nothing but hogwash.
	I don't think I've ever seen Congressman Sheriff Nells without a cigar in his hand when he's Outside of the debating chamber, and God bless him.
	Yeah, it's so true.
	Biden is hemorrhaging.
	And this Senate bill, it's just hogwash.
	It's just distraction.
	It's just a Band-Aid on a sucking chest wound.
	They have to be able to show something.
	Hold out, guys.
	Troy, Andy Biggs, hold out.
	Don't let the rhinos give Biden what he needs as a fig leaf.
	Absolutely cannot happen.
	What else has Biden done in the world?
	Oh yeah, he loves salty language.
	What did he say yesterday?
	He used the word hell, talked about Beelzebub's home at the National Prayer Breakfast, and then he's talking about the damned world.
	Cut seven.
	Slow Joe Beijing Biden.
	And folks, look, we now have, in large part because of you and organized labor, the strongest economy in the whole damn world.
	We do!
	We do!
	The whole world!
	Really?
	Do strong economies have 7% mortgage rates?
	If you compare just the price of food, if you took a cart of food that you bought three years ago and try to buy exactly the same produce today, the average increase in just comestibles, just what humans need to eat, is minimum 30% higher.
	Is that the sign of a great economy?
	Or is it inflation?
	Is it fiscal policy out of control?
	Is it an economy that isn't functioning on the basis of what?
	Free markets.
	Government getting out of the way.
	Oh, and let's have another fun one.
	I wonder why he's bragging about being a criminal.
	Cut six.
	Joe Biden again.
	And besides, you built my 67 Corvette?
	My pride.
	Any of you ever watch Jay Leno's Garage?
	You watch me race on my 67 Corvette?
	It's only a 327 350.
	I tell you what man, I got up to 130 miles an hour though.
	Secret Service doesn't like riding with me very much anymore.
	That's out there, right, Eric?
	That video of him racing his Corvette at 130 miles an hour on Jay Leno's show, right?
	That's a very famous video, right?
	Oh, everybody's seen it.
	It's one of the most viral videos in the history of the internet.
	He just says whatever he wants to.
	My son died in combat in Iraq.
	I'm racing my Corvette at 130 miles an hour.
	And then what happens?
	The people in the room actually laugh.
	I don't think they're laughing at him.
	I think they're laughing with him.
	And that's the sad thing.
	However, there is some good news.
	I can't believe this is a clip from CNN.
	There are some trend lines occurring amongst the voters today.
	Cut to.
	Look, his rise amongst people of color, African Americans and Hispanics, it's because they're following white working class voters, what they did with Reagan and Trump in 2016.
	They're following, they're moving towards Trump because of his policies.
	They're not big fans of Democratic wokeness and the like.
	And so I think you're going to see that slide continue to the Republican Party as, you know, educated white, college educated white folks kind of slide over to the Democratic Party.
	The working class gets it.
	20% of the black community that we know of are warming up to President Trump.
	If that happens, the Democrat stranglehold on the minority vote in America will be broken.
	And from the National Pulse, I'll be discussing this in a few hours time because three hours of radio isn't enough for me.
	I will be hosting the number one show on Newsmax.
	Rob Schmidt will be out tonight.
	I'll be guest hosting.
	One of the news items we will be breaking down with our special guest is President Trump leads the incumbent in all seven swing states.
	That's from our friends at the National Pulse.
	All seven swing states.
	Now the question is, can we keep that?
	And can we increase it in the next 10 months?
	There was a story that you wrote up, Eric.
	What was the story that you wrote up that we said we'd discuss at some point?
	Do you remember?
	Oh yes!
	Tay-Tay!
	My latest column for American Greatness at amgreatness.com.
	So tell us about this amazing psychological operation being done by Joe Biden and Taylor Swift.
	The theory goes that apparently Taylor Swift's existence right now is a quote, I'm not kidding, these are the terms they've used, a deep state psy-op.
	That apparently, with the peak of her popularity right now, and her romance with this football player Travis Kelsey, the Chiefs, the Kansas City Chiefs, his team, are gonna win a, possibly rigged, Super Bowl, and then at the end of the game, after the trophy is awarded, he'll get down on one knee and propose to her, and this big whirlwind Disney romance will sweep up tens of millions of normies, you know, non-voting Americans, who will then be hypnotized by Swift into voting for Biden
	and securing his re-election.
	And who is propagating this garbage?
	The three big culprits are Laura Loomer, Jack Posobiec, and Benny Johnson, of all people.
	And in fact, I actually, I was criticizing Pasovic on Twitter over this, and he blocked me yesterday, because he didn't like the other criticisms I had for him.
	What?!
	He blocked me.
	He couldn't handle the heat.
	You know, the slightest bit of scrutiny of this theory, and it completely falls apart.
	I mean, one example, as I mentioned in this article, Pasovic himself has claimed, oh, Swift is bought and paid for by the Soros family, because they bought her music rights in 2019, so they're making her their puppet.
	in 2019. Okay, but then in 2018 she campaigned heavily against Marsha Blackburn in her Senate
	race. That was a year before her music rights were purchased by Soros, so what was her motivation then?
	The timeline just doesn't add up. And not only that, I think it was the Daily Mail, you probably know,
	they published this survey or this poll saying 17% of voters would follow Taylor Swift's endorsement
	of the presidential campaign. And then...
	Wow, that's impressive.
	And then you read the article, you read the poll, and the poll says 18% would vote against anything she actually endorsed, which means the whole thing's a wash.
	I mean, do people not read the articles to the end of the article, Eric?
	No, and the Daily Mail was absolutely making a, you know, a buzzy, you know, clickbait headline without saying one-fifth of Americans will vote for who Taylor Swift tells them to.
	And then, yeah, the poll says 18% are more likely to vote for who she endorses, 17% less likely.
	So, yeah, a net gain of 1%.
	Oh, and not only that, if you look at the poll, the number of people they surveyed was... Did you see how many people they surveyed?
	I did not see that.
	What was the sample size?
	340.
	Oh!
	Out of, you know, 330 million people, that's gonna really indicate what Americans think.
	I'm so glad.
	Thank you, Eric.
	No, Taylor Swift is not a psychological operation by the CIA and Soros.
	You just hurt our side so much when you spout crap like that.
	Stop it, Jack.
	Stop it, Benny.
	And Laura, well, she's a lost cause.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	What block are we in?
	Are we in the B block?
	We are in the...
	Okay, well in that case, I forgot to mention Carl Firearms.
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	I mentioned his name because I do like him, but yeah.
	In terms of like the most engagement and the most publicity, it's those three.
	Like when CNN and all the others are covering, oh, this right-wing conspiracy theory, like, Johnson's tweet is the one they were showing the most.
	Like, oh, Benny Johnson says this.
	He's still a turning point guy, right, Johnson?
	Uh, yes.
	All right, do we have any update?
	Uh, texting him now.
	He said ETA 429.
	I'm texting him.
	Okay, three minutes.
	Got one more picture.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	.
	Want us to open the lines just in case?
	No, uh, no.
	Okay.
	No.
	He's sitting there.
	Um...
	He's...
	Looping around the building, looking for a spot.
	Okay.
	Okay.
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	All right, let's go to your call.
	Somebody's got an idea for a new t-shirt.
	Nancy, Pennsylvania, line one.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	I have a t-shirt idea for Easy Math about the wonderful Biden economy.
	So the headline would say, Bidenomics.
	Underneath it would say, the dollar store, then $1.
	Now, $1.25 equals 25% inflation.
	Yeah, I get what you're doing.
	I get what you're doing.
	The dollar store is now $1.25.
	And in fact, that's true if you look at the reports of what they're selling in the dollar stores right now and how much they're charging.
	Thank you, Nancy.
	Let's go to Tom in Arizona, line two.
	Hey, how you doing?
	Good.
	Good, good.
	Just calling to respond to the question that you asked, or the Fox News guy asked, does Joe Biden love America?
	Jesse Watters, right.
	Jesse Watters, right, yeah.
	I think he does love America, like a prostitute that he doesn't even pay.
	I'll take no No receives.
	Terrible.
	Just the worst president ever.
	Thank you, Tom.
	Thank you, Tom.
	All right.
	I think it probably runs in the family if you think about what his son does.
	But yeah, I think without a doubt, without a shadow of a doubt, the worst president in American history.
	We look back at the 20th century and until, what, three years ago?
	Carter was deemed to be catastrophically bad president, but different.
	Why?
	Because his driving of America into the ground With the gas crisis, Iranian hostage crisis, conflicts in the Middle East.
	It wasn't a function of ideology.
	It wasn't a function of wanting to dismantle everything.
	I mean, I believe, look, he's a bit of a well meaning fool he's done a lot of good for families with his what is it habitat for humanity that he's been building homes now for what 50 years but he's a utopian idealist who couldn't run anything
	Now, he's a patriot in my opinion, just a misguided one.
	He was, of course, an officer in our nuclear submarine force.
	I'd love to know what the success of his peanut farm was, whether he knew how to even manage that.
	But he wasn't deliberately dismantling America.
	He didn't think that, we are the patriarchy, the neocolonialist, cisgender, new empire.
	This guy's different.
	I don't know if this guy has ideology, but it functionally doesn't matter because he surrendered to those that do.
	Whether it's Ambassador Rice, whether it's Obama calling him up, whether it's the people who are really running the DOJ and the FBI, the true ideologues that hate America, Biden has surrendered to them.
	And at the same time, he's a venal, corrupt old man who's, well, he's peddled influence Since he became a senator.
	I mean, you do know what Hunter Biden's first job was.
	Before he was kicked out of the military for being a drug addict.
	Right after...
	Then Senator Biden passed an incredibly cushy new bill to protect the credit card companies in America so they could go after the customers that couldn't afford those 20-30% rates with even greater force.
	What happened?
	Right after that bill passed that was sponsored and shepherded through the Senate by Joe Biden, Hunter Biden got a job where?
	At the credit card processing company that benefited the most from that bill.
	So from way back when, to the deals with Burisma, China, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Romania, this is the most corrupt politician we've had and has demonstrated himself to be the worst president.
	Probably not of the modern age, but since 1776.
	Thank you for your call.
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	I'm a lifelong Island.
	I'm a minister of safety for the Seacanic Temple.
	I personally oppose Bill HF-2073 because I believe in the separation of church and state.
	But if the bill does pass, I'm excited for the opportunities it presents for the Seacanic Temple to provide support, services, and programs to school children in our state.
	All right, okay.
	Did you think it was inappropriate when the RNC chair, Ronna McDaniel, suggested that you need to drop out because she didn't see a path for you?
	I absolutely think it was inappropriate.
	We've had two states that have voted.
	You need 1,215 delegates.
	Donald Trump has 32.
	I have 17.
	We still have 48 states and more territories to go before we get there.
	I'm not going anywhere, Jake.
	I'm going to continue to go All the way through South Carolina, then we're going to go on to Super Tuesday and we're going to keep on going forward.
	This is about the fact that we can't live in chaos anymore.
	This is about the fact that we've got to focus on what it's going to take to not just get our domestic policy on track, but what are we going to do to prevent wars and to make sure we keep Americans safe.
	We can't do that with the two guys there.
	Americans are telling people that.
	We need to start listening and make sure that we focus on what it takes to win a primary so that we can get our country back on track.
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	We've got some calls on the line.
	We'll get to Mike and Nancy momentarily, but it is Second Amendment Friday, and we've just had a good friend...
	Walk in the studio.
	The man who shepherded me through the process of getting my DC concealed carry permit and a man who I believe Leon Spears.
	Was your SHOT Show trip the first time you'd been to SHOT Show?
	It was my first time.
	Have you recovered?
	I haven't.
	It's tough, it's tough.
	It was overwhelming.
	All right, let's, while we're talking to Leon, let's run some of the photographs in the background that I took, some of the B-roll and some of the photographs from Leon.
	That was the Ghandi's award ceremony for gun content creators with the likes of Taran Tactical And the people that celebrate the Second Amendment on YouTube.
	You can keep going, guys.
	You can just keep going.
	The range day for the media guests at the Franklin Armory stand.
	There's an amazing individual.
	He is Tommy Bostic, who is going to bring the Heckler & Koch MP7 in a civilian form to the market.
	Super excited.
	Taran Tactical, the man who taught Keanu Reeves how to shoot.
	He was a very popular exhibitor at the show.
	Keep going, keep going.
	Oh, proof that very dangerous things can come in small packages.
	That is General Scott Scotty Miller, formerly the commander of Delta Force.
	Uh, don't mess with that guy.
	He may be a foot shorter than me, but what a great individual.
	What else do we have?
	Oh!
	And the winner of the Influencer of the Year Gundy Awards, Superb Champine, Jarrod, uh, Jarrod Yanis, uh, with our friend Leon Spears.
	We had Jarrod on the show last week.
	Congratulations to you.
	So, for those who aren't familiar, I go every year.
	I've gone for like four, five years now.
	Explain what it is and why you went.
	I went to support John Keyes.
	He's the co-founder of Guns Out TV.
	With Shermichael Singleton.
	With Shermichael Singleton.
	And his crew did a really great job in supporting other manufacturers and doing media shots.
	It was just a wonderful event.
	Describe the size of this thing.
	Oh, there were 80,000 booths.
	So it's like you have this PDF, you have a map of the place.
	It was in the Venetian.
	It was in Caesars.
	You walk for miles.
	You walk for miles.
	You have two bridges.
	So it was just absolutely overwhelming.
	And there weren't duplicates.
	It's not like you have a vendor A and vendor B and they're both vendors and they're both connected.
	They're completely separate in 80,000.
	It was overwhelming.
	Now, you are the founder of DCConcealedCarry.com.
	Everybody needs to check out this amazing website, this training facility.
	DCConcealedCarry.com and follow Leon at Leon Spears.
	I know you've got some exciting plans around the corner we can discuss at another time.
	When you saw Shock Show and met so many other people in the industry, in this world that we move in, is there anything you want to share with our millions of listeners?
	Anything interesting or anything new or just words of wisdom after your experience?
	awesome to see the camaraderie. You didn't know anyone, or at least I didn't. I knew some people.
	I knew Jared. But you didn't know 80,000 people. I didn't know 80,000 people, but three prongs.
	One, I never knew the extent of the industry. So sights, optics, lever rifles. I mean,
	it was just amazing. Suppressors. So that was one. The second thing is the spirit of the event.
	Like, Eric...
	Everybody was happy to be there.
	There were no sad faces.
	And then lastly, it was just the amount of people, the size and quality.
	These booths were essentially stores, like you walked in on the street.
	And they were booths, they were quality, they were high.
	And even the smallest booth, the products were like some of the most incredible things.
	Incredible stuff.
	From little mom and pop.
	Mom and pop stuff.
	They might have holsters, they might have cleaning solution.
	It was just amazing.
	And then all the way to Smith & Wesson and Heckler & Koch.
	Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Staccato was just amazing.
	Oh, staccato.
	Oh, yeah.
	Cars, staccato.
	Oh yeah.
	All right.
	We're almost out of time, but let's just talk about some bad news and some good news.
	The ATF isn't giving up.
	Whistleblowers inside the Bureau are saying the Biden administration is about to prepare a draft to ban all private sales of firearms.
	Meaning even if you want to give your grandson your 22, so we have to be on our money.
	However, maybe I read something about good news in DC that there's a case imminently about this dumb 10-round magazine limit that may lead to some rationality in DC.
	What should we expect, Leon?
	Well, there really were two cases in California, and the phenomenal Judge Benitez actually struck both of those down.
	And then they went up to the Ninth Circuit, and the Ninth Circuit is looking at it en banc, but it's looking pretty good.
	Because the absurdity is, you know, we have concealed carry permits, and we can't have a gun with more than 10 rounds, which is absurd.
	It's unbelievable.
	And sure enough, there's been a wave, over about 25 years, where jurisdictions, unfriendly states, they just randomly and arbitrarily just choose 10.
	You know, there's no rhyme or reason to it.
	And it's been deemed unconstitutional based on the Bruin Standard.
	Either you have the right or you don't have the right.
	You either have the right or you don't have the right.
	It's not about the mag capacity.
	It isn't, you know.
	All right, if you want to get a permit to carry, you don't even have to be a DC resident.
	I'm not.
	That's the beauty of it.
	This man can make it happen because, by the way, he's concealed carry permit number one for the District of Columbia.
	That tells you everything you need to know.
	DCconcealedcarry.com.
	That's DCconcealedcarry.com.
	And follow our good friend at Leon Spears on social media.
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	Mike, Detroit, line one.
	Yeah, I just have a couple of issues.
	One is Omar, because, you know, this is one of the Hamas constituencies of the Democratic Party.
	You know, she's a refugee pound puppy that we rescued from Somalia, which is designated, amazingly, by the United Nations as the most dysfunctional government.
	Okay, so what's your point?
	What's your point?
	Well, she's out there, you know, advocating Hamas.
	Yeah, she hates America.
	Yeah, we know that, Mike.
	I mean, she said some people did something on 9-11.
	Anything else?
	Yeah, yeah.
	This is really a disgraceful political feeder by this corrupt Montgomery Burns president, you know.
	It's no coincidence that they, you know, they set off these useless airstrikes when three of our heroics... Yeah, and no, you're absolutely right.
	It's just theater.
	It's absolute theater.
	We will unpack it more later tonight on Newsmax.
	Nancy, Minnesota, minute and a half.
	Hi, I have an idea.
	Yeah.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	I have an idea to win the messaging battle by swapping the Democrats' messages.
	You know, they're always scaring people.
	He'll be a dictator, he'll be a tyrant.
	Well, how about this?
	The drilling dictator.
	The tyrant for low taxes.
	The brigadier, badass brigadier on the border.
	You mean, use the language against them.
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	Next up, kind of seminal, seminal movie from my childhood.
	When I saw one of them, one of the actors, at a toy store, it scared me.
	Why?
	Because gorillas shouldn't speak.
	Planet of the Apes!
	Next here with Chris Coles.
	Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, don't touch that dial.
	It's illegal.
	you you
	all the gin joints and all Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine.
	Impressive.
	Most impressive.
	See things you people wouldn't believe.
	See things you people wouldn't believe.
	I want to talk to God.
	you Let's go see him together.
	The men who sent us on this journey are long since dead and gone.
	You who are reading me now are a different breed.
	I hope a better one.
	I leave the 20th century with no regrets, but one more thing.
	If anybody's listening, that is.
	Nothing scientific, it's purely personal.
	This man that marveled at the universe, that glorious paradoxer sent me to the stars.
	Still make war against his brother.
	Keep his neighbor's children starving.
	That is the question!
	The philosophical monologue at the beginning of a movie that really made science fiction mainstream and a success.
	Established a franchise that would become incredibly successful, not just in the cinema, but television, Saturday morning cartoons, a reboot a few years ago.
	And in fact, the success of that movie And the money it made for its studio would eventually help to greenlight another franchise, a little something called Star Wars.
	Let's discuss the Planet of the Apes with our co-host, YouTube content provider, cultural and political critic extraordinaire, Mr. Reagan, a.k.a.
	Chris Coles.
	Happy Friday, Chris.
	Happy Friday.
	Good to be here.
	What a wonderful pick that you that you chose last week.
	We did Princess Bride and now we've got this really a classic.
	I mean, it's considered one of the great classics in cinema.
	And I hadn't seen it.
	What?
	Yeah, I had never seen it.
	And here's the thing.
	I'm a huge fan of Twilight Zone.
	I know Rod Serling did the first draft of this movie and wrote the first draft of this.
	It was a You know, it was an adaptation of a novel.
	Right.
	And, you know, it's a great, you know, it's a great script.
	He did a great job.
	All the other writers, everybody who was on this did a great job with it.
	But the thing is, the real impact, the thing that was like the really, you know, the most important part of this movie, and the screenplay and everything, was that final scene, that final shot.
	And that has become such a cultural icon.
	That I knew the ending without seeing the film.
	And this had always irritated me so much that any opportunity I had to watch Planet of the Apes, I just didn't watch it because I was so annoyed that I already knew the end.
	All right, well I'm glad we forced you to finally watch this movie that's been waiting for you, Chris Coles, since 1968.
	You are a Planet of the Apes neophyte, you are no longer Planet of the Apes virgin, so let's get your initial reaction to having actually seen this incredible film that was so much a part of my childhood and childhood of Tens of maybe hundreds of millions of people across the planet.
	So what did you think?
	Did knowing the ending really spoil it that much for you?
	What did you think?
	No, no, it wasn't actually the ending.
	The thing is, you do watch it with different eyes, knowing the ending, obviously.
	But let me say this.
	It wasn't actually as good as I was hoping.
	And I know that's going to sound disappointing, everybody.
	But, I will say this, I'm sort of of two minds of this film.
	There's so much about this film, there's so much provocative, interesting stuff about this movie, that maybe I should say I'm of 20 minds, but I'm really, you know, you could basically classify those things into two camps.
	On the one side, I would say that this deserves the classic status that it holds in cinema.
	This really, truly is a classic, and it really, truly is a great film.
	On the other hand, there is a couple of things, philosophical things, that I disagree with so profoundly about this film.
	That it bothers me to such an extent that I can't enjoy it at the level that I want to.
	And those two things, and you can debate me on this, but those two things are, they kind of promote this idea that religion inhibits science.
	Yes.
	And I really hate that idea.
	That's a very common idea in society generally, and it's really amplified here in this film, and I think it's awful, and they could have tweaked it just a little bit, I think it would have been fine.
	And the other idea that they promote that I hate is the idea that
	Progressive ideas are superior to conservative ideas, and they promote this idea quite a lot in the film.
	So it's a sort of a two-pronged approach, an anti-religious idea and an anti-conservative political idea, and I really despise both of those messages.
	And so it makes it—that actually makes it difficult for me to really, truly love this film, which is a shame, because I really do appreciate all the work that went into it, and there's so much about this film that is absolutely brilliant.
	Well let me, I'm not going to counter that, because I think it's a sound observation, but let me just flesh that out a little bit.
	Because, look, I love Charlton Heston.
	Whether it's, you know, Omega Man, whether it's the Ten Commandments, whether it's, you know, what is it, True Lies.
	I mean, this guy is an American icon.
	Whether it's real life.
	Whether it's real life, marching with Martin Luther King Jr.
	I mean, this guy is up there with, you know, the likes of Clint Eastwood and John Wayne.
	So you've got to love this movie for the performance he brings to it.
	But at the same time, I think there's an argument to remain, Chris, that the most interesting character in the movie is one of the apes.
	And it's, in fact, Dr. Zaius.
	I love Roddy McDowall.
	Roddy McDowall, for me, again, an icon of my childhood, the guy that starred in almost all of these films, you know, and he's, of course, Cornelius.
	But the guy that crystallizes and embodies that tension in this movie is Dr. Zaius.
	Why?
	Because this individual, played by a classic Shakespearean actor, Maurice Evans, this individual is the person who protects civilization with his fake religion and make sure that science isn't undermined by the truth.
	Because he's what?
	He's a minister of science and quote, the defender of the truth.
	I don't know.
	I found the character of Dr. Zayas one of the most compelling in the film.
	How about you?
	Oh, absolutely.
	Because at the end of the day, he was kind of right.
	Yes.
	You know, even though he was inhibiting these researchers from exposing certain truths, he was doing it because of this more fundamental truth, more important truth, which is that human beings are destructive, at least in the framework of the film.
	I would argue that that's actually not true.
	We are as constructive as we are destructive, and there's a debate to say whether or not human beings are evil or good.
	I'm an optimist.
	I love humanity.
	I look at humanity as good, but there's an argument to say that humanity is evil and destructive.
	Leftists seem to think so.
	They're all environmentalists.
	They love basically every type of creature on the planet more than human beings.
	But you know, it's in the context of the film, in the context of the film, he is actually right, because human beings obliterated the planet.
	Right.
	I would also like to throw one other shout out to I think an underrated actress who did a phenomenal job in this film, Valerie Jarrett.
	Are you trying to get us cancelled forever?
	That's an old joke.
	That's an old joke.
	Look it up, guys.
	We're not going to explain it any further.
	We're not going to explain it any further.
	But there is a comment to be made here.
	But for a second, let's actually give a real shout out to Kim Hunter, who plays, you know, the other scientist, the other progressive.
	And also Roddy McDowall, because I don't know about you, you're an actor, Chris, but acting through Two, three, four inches of latex.
	And actually, I hate the word, emoting and expressing real, you know, acting chops through the rubber.
	I'm sorry, they did it.
	Yeah, you know, I'm watching the film and I'm actually trying to figure it out as I'm watching.
	I'm thinking, did they sculpt the masks to make it look like they're making a particular expression?
	Or do the masks actually allow the expression to come through?
	I couldn't quite figure it out.
	You know, OK, so there's something quite sad about this movie, and it's a little bit of a weird thing, because I want to talk about how great the film is, but also in the context of the modern era.
	Yeah.
	Because we expect everything to look hyper-realistic now because of really advanced computer-generated graphics now.
	And they're obviously wearing prosthetics.
	But the thing is, at the time, this was such advanced technology.
	Nobody had ever done anything that looked this realistic before using prosthetics.
	So everybody's blown away like, holy smokes, that's what an eight man would look like, you know, and they really believed it.
	Now we look at it and it looks it looks kind of tacky.
	A lot of people would look at it today and be like, oh, that looks really fakie.
	And it's a little bit of a shame because you just will never be able to get that same experience that you had when that film first came out.
	Now it's something very different.
	Instead of looking at it and saying, oh, this film is heightened by the great special effects.
	You kind of have to look past the dated special effects and look at the film for everything else that it is, which is just kind of like a sad thing that, you know, how art gets changed and lost over time.
	But, you know, that's the way the world is.
	And the fact is that this film is still A magnificent masterpiece of a film, despite that, which I think says a lot about really the production value and everything that went into this movie.
	Yeah, you know, we have to recognize John Chambers here, the man who learned dentistry in the army.
	Who invented the applications here, which to answer your question, except for the extras in the background that had hooded like pullover face masks, and you can tell in some of the shots, the principals had these applied directly to their face.
	And the makeup was flexible enough that with exaggerated movements of the jaw, the eyeline, the chin, the ears, they could actually communicate through these incredible masks.
	And a very risky move.
	I mean, it was very hard to get this film greenlit because nobody believed.
	What?
	Masks on humans and they're going to be ape men?
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	You're no seeker.
	You're negative.
	And I'm not prepared to die.
	I'd like to know why not.
	You thought life on Earth was meaningless.
	You despised people.
	So what'd you do?
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	You're no seeker. You're negative.
	And I'm not prepared to die.
	I'd like to know why not.
	You thought life on Earth was meaningless.
	You despised people.
	So what'd you do? You ran out.
	No, no, it's not like that, Landon.
	I'm a seeker, too.
	But my dreams aren't like yours.
	I can't help thinking somewhere in the universe there has to be something better than man.
	Has to be.
	Quite the setup, quite the setup.
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	I'm curious, you know, I always have a soft spot for this man.
	I mean, for me, he's like, you know, alpha male par excellence.
	But he's such a stinking cynic in this movie.
	Do we relate to astronaut Taylor or not, Chris?
	Well, you know what's interesting?
	There was so much in this film that was prophetic.
	I don't know if it was necessarily in the way that they wanted all the time, or they expected, but like, there is a line, there is a scene when he's given the gift of...
	Of this woman, which I texted you a picture of her and I wrote, why am I never getting gifts like this?
	You know, he's given a gift of a woman.
	Just by the way, his idea of a perfect gift, Chris Coles, is a beautiful woman who can't speak.
	Let's be clear here.
	Okay.
	Cause that's Nova.
	So he's given this woman and then somebody, one of the apes says, uh, you know, it's shocking to me that, uh, that a human can be monogamous.
	And he presents, it's a very small part of the film, but he presents this little speech about how in his time on Earth, it was essentially impossible to be monogamous, like, you know, he's like, oh, you know, I had women, I had lots of women, but there was no way that I could, you know, settle down with one of these girls.
	He says something quite crude.
	He says that, oh, there was lots of sex, but no love.
	Exactly.
	And I feel like That was like prophetic with like the advent of Tinder and and this sort of like disposable dating kind of situation that we have now.
	But there was a lot of other prophetic stuff, but not in the way that they expect.
	Like, you know, you have this panel of judges.
	And then you have Charlton Heston, and Charlton Heston is not allowed to speak.
	Now, where have we seen that lately?
	I mean, it is exactly what's going on with the E. Jean Carroll case against Donald Trump.
	Donald Trump and his lawyer are trying to present evidence to suggest, look, she is lying about this.
	How can we defame her by defending ourselves if no assault ever actually happened?
	But the judge says, no, you're guilty, and you're not even allowed to prove your innocence.
	You're not allowed to speak.
	And they silenced Donald Trump in exactly the same way they do in this movie against Charlton Heston.
	It's like bizarre how similar it is, you know?
	Oh my gosh, making incredible connections.
	But let's be clear here, not just silencing him in the courtroom, saying he can't bring evidence, he can't bring his experts, but the judge is telling him he can't make critical comments outside the courtroom?
	And as if the First Amendment doesn't apply to somebody who's accused of a crime!
	So my gosh, God bless you.
	Always bringing your A-game to these analyses and making the connections to the real world.
	Can we go back to that footage of the first instance we see the apes?
	And I'd like you to freeze it as the horse-bound ape turns around and you see his face.
	So write, hang on, there.
	So, I need people to understand, this show today is a psychiatric catharsis for me.
	Because I saw this as a child, it scared the crap out of me, and then one day my mother took me to Harrods.
	Harrods is, you know, the Queen's department store in London, bought by Dottie Fayed, the most famous department store in the world.
	and I went there like age seven or something or six and we were in the toy department or no it was Hamleys correction it was Hamleys it was the most famous toy store in the world And I'm running around the toy store looking for yo-yos or whatever and suddenly I turn around an aisle and there's one of these stinking apes in real life in the black leather jerkin standing there and I literally screamed and ran for my mama.
	Because they were re-releasing the action figures.
	And to sell the action figures, they'd have guys made up as the original guerrilla soldiers.
	I've been scarred for life, Chris!
	So I chose this movie in part to try and get over this.
	There is something about men dressed up as, you know, You know, fantasy characters that is terrifying.
	I remember I was probably like two or three years old.
	I still remember there was, they used to, Coors Light used to have men dressing up as like the Coors Light bear in America.
	And the bear, there's this like polar bear mascot thing.
	And I remember as a kid, they tried to get me to like give this giant teddy bear thing a hug or something.
	Cause I, you know, I was a kid and it's like a giant teddy bear.
	And I just screamed my head off, you know?
	I was, like, really little.
	I was one of my very earliest members.
	I was, like, two or three years old.
	But there's something about grown men dressed up as, like, fictional characters.
	But I'm serious here.
	The gorillas, so you have the orangutans that are, like, the lawgivers, you know, whatever.
	You have the chimps, like Cornelius, who are the scientists and whatever, and the bureaucrats.
	The gorillas, the military, and especially when we get to the general who's in the sequel, I mean, just one of them by himself standing there with a club in his leather jerky.
	It's one of the most stunning visual things from any movie.
	I mean, forget about other science fiction or Darth Vader.
	That, that's frightening, Chris.
	Yeah.
	And they did.
	They really did such.
	The craftsmanship is so beautiful.
	If you if you're watching this film from beginning to end.
	Yeah.
	You do kind of forget that there are masks at some point.
	That's like the weird thing.
	I was talking about this with King Kong.
	You know, you can look at if you just like look at a still frame or you look at like a little bit of footage, a little clip of footage, you're like, oh, that looks ridiculous.
	That looks silly.
	That's antiquated.
	That's like old fashioned.
	But if you're watching from the beginning of the end of the movie, you kind of forget that these are people in masks.
	They really they look pretty damn good.
	And it's just a testament to people with like a limited, you know, amount of tools that they can work with at the time because the technology just wasn't advanced enough.
	But yet, what they do with it is just amazing, because these people were like the top-level artists of their day.
	Right.
	And of course, no CGI, because it's 1968.
	We're talking Planet of the Apes, based on Pierre Boulle's Planet de Saint-Georges.
	We'll talk about the origins of the story, the book, the adaptations.
	What else that man wrote?
	Because it's rather intriguing.
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	All right, they had to sell this concept.
	It was hard to do.
	What?
	One executive said, are you going to use real monkeys?
	And he said, no, no, no.
	We're going to actually use humans in masks.
	How did they sell it?
	Well, here's an early test role with a very famous actor proving it can be done.
	Some of us will be returning to the city.
	This gives me an opportunity to say goodbye.
	Won't you be coming back here to the excavations?
	You won't be returning to the city.
	Built and filled by a civilized race.
	A race which, according to you, never got beyond a crawl and a couple of grunts.
	You found more than a cemetery, doctor.
	You found a question.
	Which came first?
	The chicken or the egg?
	The ape or the man?
	That was actually Edward G. Robinson playing Professor Dr. Minister Zayas, who didn't take the part eventually because he had a beard.
	And he said, I'm not going to shave my beard.
	I'll do the test run, but that's it.
	That's how they sold it to the producers.
	And that's how we finally got, well, this kind of performance with the finalized prosthetic, where one of the two scientists who takes a shine to astronaut Taylor, Well, Bright-Eyes, is our throat feeling better?
	It still hurts, doesn't it?
	See?
	He keeps pretending he can talk!
	That Bright-Eyes is remarkable!
	He keeps trying to form words.
	You know what they say, humans see, humans do.
	Sometimes it's a little bit too on the nose, right?
	You know, human see, human do.
	The apes covering their ears and their mouth and their eyes in the tribunal.
	A little bit over the top, especially with the hippie kid at the end who, you know, never trusts anyone over the age of 35.
	But as you said, Chris, when you look at her, when you look at Kim Hunter, when you look at Roddy McDowall, when you look at Morris Evans, I still, you know, five minutes into the movie, I don't see a human with a rubber mask on.
	I'm seeing a talking ape.
	And that's the art of good acting.
	Oh, absolutely.
	The performances are all fantastic.
	I mean, I think maybe Dr. Zaius would have been a little bit more...
	If Edward G. Robinson had played Dr. Zeiss, I think he would have been a little bit more sympathetic.
	As he is, he is really a villain until the very end.
	And even then, I don't think you would like him.
	You know, but you do recognize, if you think about it for a second, you recognize that what he was trying to do was actually right.
	What he was trying to do was good, protect his people from the evil humans.
	But hiding the truth.
	But hiding the truth, which he felt was necessary to preserve his people, which is, you know, debatable about, you know, whether that's a good idea or not.
	But yeah, like, I was saying before that there was a way to make this film palatable for religious people, you know, and kind of sidestep this idea that scientists
	atheistic scientists who are, I would call, evangelical atheists, right?
	They're always trying to propose this antagonistic relationship between science and religion, which isn't necessary.
	That fight isn't necessary.
	But if you look at this film in a slightly different framing, it actually works really, really well.
	Instead of pitting science against religion, maybe pit science against just general Being a zealot of any kind, right?
	Being a zealot will inhibit the, you know, processing of any kind of new information, any kind of new ideas, right?
	And we see this so prevalent today on the left, as I was saying.
	Like, you know, you've got this court case against Donald Trump.
	You have these court cases against January Sixers who aren't allowed to even have access to exonerating evidence, right?
	So we live in this, like, police state now.
	And also, you know, you're not allowed to tell the truth on social media.
	I mean, we really live in this sort of authoritarian dictatorship now.
	And why is that?
	It's all because of this zealot nature of the left now.
	And, you know, being a zealot can be very destructive.
	And if they had just sort of, like, tweaked the film a little bit to be more focused on that idea, I think it would be a lot more appetizing, at least to me.
	Making Dr. Zaius a proponent of transgenderism because the science is conclusive, climate change, global warming, because as you say, if you dare dead name someone, if you call them by the gender-correct name they were born with, the left will want to cancel you.
	Another fabulous comparison, bringing us up to the modern age with a classic movie.
	It is Planet of the Apes, based on Pierre Boulle's Planet de Singes.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First.
	Go get him!
	Taylor!
	Why did you run away?
	Security police!
	I'm in charge of this man!
	No longer, madam.
	He is now in the custody of the Ministry of Science.
	Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape!
	Now of course it's a crescendo moment in the movie because all the humans on the planet
	They can't speak.
	Taylor was shot in the throat at the beginning, so he has been incapable of talking until this moment.
	His throat has healed, and he can demonstrate that he's a little bit different when it comes to the humans that are running around the jungle's mute.
	But, Chris, in addition to the denouement at the end, perhaps the greatest shock reveal of any movie, That's the most famous iconic line of the film, is it not?
	Oh yeah, oh yeah.
	And you know, it's an important moment in the story, it's an important moment sort of in the tone of the film, but just Charlton Heston is such a badass, you know, you just like to hear him say the line.
	That line, and then one more after he's captured, back in the cage, another classic line, let's play it.
	Damn you!
	You hairy scum!
	Shut up, you freak!
	Julius, you... I said shut up!
	It's a madhouse!
	A madhouse!
	There's only one Charlton Heston, and just the reversal there of the gorilla shouting, shut up you freak, it's classic.
	I know you're a huge fan of the man who wrote the original script, a much darker version to which later they had to inject a little bit more humor, but I don't think it's any surprise that one of the most iconic films Ever, and of the genre science fiction, was originally penned an adaptation of Pierre Boulle's Planète des Singes novel by somebody, you can put the image up, somebody that you have great admiration for, who had just lost funding and seen his series, The Twilight Zone, cancelled.
	So you are a big Rod Serling fan, correct Chris?
	Yeah, look, when I was younger, I was always writing.
	I was writing novels, I was writing screenplays, even as a kid, up through my teenage years.
	But there was a moment, because I used to write more I guess like long, long form stories of, you know, based on based on like Tolkien and C.S.
	Lewis and mysteries like Sherlock Holmes, mysteries and stuff.
	This is the kind of stuff I liked writing.
	Then I saw a few episodes of the Twilight Zone and this show just blew my mind.
	And it completely changed the way that I wrote.
	And I actually thought to myself, if I can write as well as the writers of the Twilight Zone, and this is probably in like 1993, 1994, I thought I could write better than anyone alive today.
	Because I felt like this show had better writing than anything that was being produced in 1993, 1994.
	And so I made it sort of my mission in life to become as good as those writers and to be able to write Twist endings in this fashion and novel ideas and bring these ideas to life.
	And yeah, so that show just kind of changed my whole creative direction in terms of writing, writing fiction anyway.
	And I owe that to Rod Serling, even though I don't agree with his politics all the time.
	Creatively, I think the man was was quite a genius.
	Well, it's like Star Trek.
	Star Trek, an amazing series.
	I love it.
	And I don't agree with the politics of Gene Roddenberry, who is like a utopian whatever.
	But an amazing series that made you think.
	And just like Planet of the Apes, what are they doing here?
	really dealing with the issues of the age that they can't deal with openly, whether
	it's racism, civil rights, the anti-war movement, allegedly the first interracial kiss happens
	on Star Trek.
	I mean, there's a reason science fiction has the role it has, because it can address things
	that otherwise aren't being addressed in the culture.
	Interestingly, the original book by Pierre Boullée, who wrote, just think of this for
	His claim to fame originally, as a former member of the Marquis of the Resistance in France, who was blowing bridges up, was the novel The Bridge Over the River Kwai.
	That's how Pierre Boullée begins.
	Becomes a massive overnight success as a novel, then a movie, then he writes this book.
	But the book originally, Planet of the Apes, is very different.
	The ending of the film comes from a Rod Serling episode of The Twilight Zone about astronauts landing on a planet they don't realize is Earth, so that's his invention.
	In the original book by Pierre Boullée, the ape society is on another planet, and it's modern.
	It has skyscrapers, it has vehicles.
	They couldn't afford that for the movie, so it became this kind of...
	With what?
	Pre-medieval, quasi-Stone Age culture with rifles, that's about it.
	No cars, no planes, no nothing.
	And of course, the original novel has the astronauts' return of family back to Earth, which since they left, has been taken over by the apes.
	So, a different setup, but Rod Serling gave us... It does have a twist, yeah.
	It does have a twist, but not the twist that Rod Serling superbly gave us.
	What else do we need to know before we go to some final thoughts?
	Let me just say quickly about the leftists of that age, the leftists of the 60s.
	I feel like, even though I may disagree with their politics, These people were trying to provoke thought in people.
	I think that's what made them great artists.
	It wasn't about censoring other people's ideas.
	It was about promoting new ideas and talking through ideas to try to find the best ideas.
	And I think that what we've discovered is that a lot of these leftist progressive ideas, so-called progressive, Aren't so good, right?
	And so it becomes very difficult for them to argue these things in a way that is actually compelling to people.
	And so instead of arguing with conservatives, they just present their idea and then they shut conservatives up.
	Like the other day, MSNBC wouldn't even broadcast Donald Trump's victory speech after the Iowa primaries or the caucus.
	And it's just sickening to me that they don't even let their viewers hear what conservatives have to say anymore.
	It's completely changed, but it used to be a lot better, I think.
	Well, I mean, there was debate.
	There may have been violence, there may have been riots and what have you, but you weren't shut down because I don't think the left felt so insecure about their ideas.
	Today they must shut you down because they realize it's a house of cards and any challenge to their Putative monopoly of the truth will bring it all crashing down.
	Originally, fascinatingly, the director was going to be Blake Edwards.
	He got into some arguments with the production team and the writers.
	The man who brought us the whole Pink Panther series of movies was replaced by Franklin Schaffer.
	Franklin Schaffer, who, let's just give this guy credit, not only did he make Planet of the Apes, this is the director who brought us Papillon.
	Who brought us Patton, yeah, and brought us the boys from Brazil.
	Amazing thrillers, amazing giant, you know, masterpiece cinema products.
	So Franklin Shaffer gets a nod.
	Six million dollars to make.
	A netted 33 million, which is very good back then.
	Any negatives?
	Any final thoughts?
	My biggest gripe, in addition to the kind of on-the-nose stuff that's clearly, you know, the hippie kid at the end who's, you know, don't trust anybody over the age of 35, the monkey-see-monkey-do stuff, is the crappy wigs.
	The inhabitants of the planet Have these three dollar wigs that look like they came from the Flintstones.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Did you really try to modify them just ever so slightly?
	You just like, you know, have to save an extra five bucks and get a decent wig.
	Any gripes for you beyond the ones you've already mentioned, Chris?
	Yeah, I mean, I think I painted the correct picture there.
	I mean, if I were to get into a little bit more detail, like there is this very obvious parallel between, you know, what happens in this film and the persecution of Galileo, right?
	That's like, I think the kind of where they're going with that.
	And to me, the persecution of Galileo, if you go back and look at it, You have to kind of understand the mindset of medieval society at the time.
	I'm actually reading a book about this right now.
	The geocentric model of the universe is what they call the Aristotelian model, right?
	It goes back to ancient Greece, and it wasn't really a Christian model of the universe so much, but that was just how scientists believed the universe was.
	When we talk about lunacy, when we talk about lunar, we're talking about the moon, because back then they believed that the heavenly bodies, the moon, Jupiter, They affected how we are.
	So if you had an illness, they would call it influenza, right?
	The flu, what we call the flu, comes from influenza, because that's the Italian word for influence, because it was the influence of the heavenly bodies on the air, and that would change, you know, your condition.
	It would make you sick.
	We still have that word, the flu, right?
	And we still have lunacy and these things.
	comes from this era when they believed in this stuff, and this comes from the ancient Greeks.
	It wasn't really a Christian model. It was just that was what the establishment believed. That's
	what people believed. So when somebody would challenge that, like Copernicus or Galileo,
	you know, and Galileo was a bit of a jerk, I think, so people just kind of hated him anyway.
	But scientists, especially atheist scientists, like to turn this again into a battle between
	Christianity and science, and I really hate that because it's totally unnecessary.
	It should be about being a zealot.
	Just don't be a zealot.
	Be a little bit open-minded about possibilities, and maybe we can have open discussions.
	But I think this film is so provocative and has so many good things to offer that, honestly, I still really enjoyed it, even though I had those issues.
	Last thing we... Oh, uh, can you come in with the scroll, please?
	Reach into my pottage.
	Read to him the twenty-ninth scroll.
	Sixth verse.
	Beware the beast man, for he is the devil's pawn.
	Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport, or lust, or greed.
	Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land.
	Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours.
	Shun him.
	Drive him back into his jungle there, for he is the harbinger of death.
	The Harbinger of Death.
	The Scroll of the Lawgiver, as read by Dr. Cornelius.
	That is why Zeus is protecting his civilization by hiding the truth of the human ancestors to the ape culture.
	All right, we're gonna have to do something a little bit different here, because if you haven't seen the end of the movie, I'm gonna play it.
	We'll exit with it, okay?
	So, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, but it's the best ending for a movie in the modern age, so you have been forewarned.
	But we have to rate, and then we have to choose.
	So, what should be the unit of measure?
	Should it be paper airplanes?
	I think that's fantastic.
	If you haven't seen the movie, the significance of paper airplanes is very important.
	Carry on, Chris.
	No, you know, the clip that you just showed is another thing I don't like.
	It's so negative about humanity.
	I understand that for the framing of the film, it actually makes total sense and Zaius is correct because of, you know, They blew it up!
	Hey, wait, wait, we'll get to that in a second.
	Alright, so let's give it... My mistake, my mistake.
	No worries.
	Let's give it a rating out of 10 paper airplanes.
	Chris' is always for a modern audience, mine is for the canon of great movies.
	We've got issues here, the effects and so forth, and you know, the 60s politics, but otherwise, what do you think a modern audience would think of this?
	It will be difficult, I think, for most modern audiences.
	It depends on if they look at it in the context of a historically classic film or if they look at it from the context of a modern film.
	I don't want to give it a low score, but I think I don't I don't know how many people are going to love this film.
	So I will begrudgingly, I will give it a six.
	As long as it was more than five.
	All right, well done.
	I admit full, utter favoritism.
	This is a part of my childhood.
	Whenever it came on television in reruns, I'd watch it.
	I watched the TV show that came out of it.
	So I'm going to give this 9 out of 10 paper airplanes.
	It's just a classic.
	Just a classic.
	And in part because of the ending, which we'll show you in a second.
	But next, what are we going to review, Chris Coles?
	Oh.
	I actually forgot about that.
	But I do have a list in my head all the time.
	I'll count to 10 while you're thinking.
	We will edit this countdown.
	10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
	Oh, I've got so many good ones.
	I got so many good ones.
	But I think this time we're going to have to go with one that's a little bit later, a little bit later.
	It's called Tombstone.
	You know, that's so funny!
	I watched a little review clip of it yesterday with one of the actors talking about the fun he had in it.
	I'm gonna do a Chris Coles now.
	I've never seen it.
	Oh yeah, it's an absolutely brilliant film.
	I've never seen it.
	I'm excited.
	Okay, I'm not a cowboy guy, I'm not a cowboy western movie guy, but I've heard this is really a modern classic, so next week it's Tombstone.
	All right, we'll end with the end of the movie.
	In the meantime, make sure you're following Chris on the Alpha Critic and the Mr. Reagan channels on YouTube.
	Don't forget to follow us on your favorite podcast platforms and social media, and wherever you are, whatever you're doing, keep your head on a civil, watch your six, hold the line, Never give up, never give in, and stay frosty in his truck.
	Oh my god.
	I'm back.
	I'm home.
	All the time it was.
	We finally, really did it.
	You maniac!
	You blew it up!
	God damn you!

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