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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Kissinger's real sin

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	Thank you for being here, everybody.
	I'm very happy to be here.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Greetings dear friends, welcome.
	The only man to serve two presidents and to do so as both National Security Advisor and the Secretary of State.
	That's quite, quite an achievement.
	That was Dr. Henry Kissinger, an exile who ran away from Germany as a Jew, who ended up as a, I think he was a sergeant, he was an NCO, Driving jeeps, a driver in the U.S.
	Army during World War II.
	To go from that to rise to the highest levels of power in the most powerful and greatest nation on God's green earth.
	It's quite an achievement.
	We have to recognize that.
	Dr. Kissinger passed yesterday at the ripe old age of 100.
	I got to meet him more than once.
	He was a little bit of a fanboy around the Trump administration.
	I don't know what he did there because he just seemed to wander around the West Wing.
	I think he missed being at the epicenter of geopolitics.
	He used to come in and drink coffee and sit around and chat with guests.
	So I think I've got a photograph with him somewhere.
	People have been asking me to react since I mentioned his passing yesterday on social media.
	Lots of reaction, lots of comments.
	I'll say this.
	They say never speak ill of the dead.
	I don't know if I agree with that.
	But neither do I agree with all those who are celebrating his death, and especially with regards to Vietnam and Cambodia, lunatics of the ilk of the late Christopher Hitchens who were screaming that he'd be strung up from a gallows as some kind of mass murder and war criminal for what happened in Southeast Asia, especially in Laos and Cambodia.
	Let's be clear about war.
	War is a rather absurd activity.
	Why?
	Because we try to regulate it.
	We have these things called the laws of war, just ad bello and just in bello, when you can go to war and how you must behave in a state of war.
	We even have conventions, the Hague and Geneva conventions, that regulate how must you treat enemy combatants and prisoners of war, which, on the face of it, It's rather obscene.
	It's rather absurd.
	Why?
	What kind of regulations can you have after you say, I can kill a citizen of another country simply because they're a citizen of another country wearing a uniform and they're at war with me?
	Seems a bit perverse, doesn't it?
	But admit to yourself, that's war.
	War is killing other people because they're from another country.
	And in warfare, guess what?
	In Cambodia, in Laos, in Vietnam, in France, in Germany, civilians die.
	People to this very day debate the morality of Truman's dropping the nuclear weapons, little man and fat boy, on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, wiping out tens, hundreds of thousands of individuals in the blink of an eye.
	Well, guess what?
	We did it without nuclear weapons.
	Allied Bomber Command dropped incendiary bombs on the city of Dresden in Germany in one night through the firestorm that was so created, killing more people than died as a result of one of those nuclear bombs.
	Yeah, burned to death by old-school incendiary bombs.
	Those weren't military targets.
	Those were civilians.
	So, please, don't misrepresent the history of mankind.
	It's not about progress.
	The history of mankind is the history of war.
	If you want to understand the existence over millennia of this species on the planet that is Earth, That history is written in blood.
	It is written in conflict.
	Whether it was tribes to begin with, whether it was clans, then empires or city-states,
	or whether, after 1648 and the Treaty of Westphalia, it became what we understand today as the
	modern nation-state as opposed to empires, the history of mankind is written in the conflict
	between those groups.
	Tribes, clans, empires, city-states, and nations.
	Now, perhaps the most important thing Dr. Henry Kissinger should be remembered for, and it's not his book Diplomacy and his PhD thesis on Bismarck, which as far as I'm concerned would make a good doorstop, a truly boring tome that people who've never read think is so amazing.
	No, Kissinger's lasting negative legacy is his decision to convince then-President Nixon To recognize and work with and open relations with China.
	As that old phrase goes, best read in the original Klingon, only Nixon could go to China.
	We understand the geopolitical logic of the time.
	You want to drive a wedge between two communist powers, between Moscow and Beijing.
	And separate them from each other by pallying up to the Asian Marxist regime.
	But what was the consequence?
	I'll tell you what the consequence was.
	In the 1970s, China was really a third world country.
	Most Chinese people didn't have a pair of shoes to wear.
	It was feudal.
	It was agrarian.
	By opening America to China, Nixon and Kissinger facilitated the growth of a third world country into the greatest threat we face today outside of our borders.
	We have enough threats inside.
	People who hate America.
	Antifa.
	BLM.
	The Democrats.
	But externally, there's one nation that wishes to replace us, one nation that has a plan, and one nation that is a peer competitor.
	People don't even realize, when we walked into the White House, measured on purchasing parity power, Communist China had a GDP larger than America's.
	We turned that around under President Trump, but they're back again.
	Thanks to the man in the White House whose son got a 1.4 billion dollar deal from the Communist National Bank of that regime.
	Yeah, look it up.
	So, whatever you say about Henry Kissinger, one thing is for sure.
	He made the modern superpower threat of China possible.
	Now let's move on to the real news of the day.
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	My son rumble, there we go Yeah, no, don't really care.
	So, look, I'm focused on the mess that is on Capitol Hill, very much so right now.
	Things are not looking good.
	Alright, why?
	Well, remember I told you they were going to do a CR?
	They did a CR, right?
	Like, now, they're going to do a full year CR when they come back in the early part of the new year.
	So, they're going to just totally ditch all the appropriations bills.
	That's what the speaker said yesterday.
	You mean the 12 separate ones?
	Yeah, they're ditching all that.
	They're gonna go to the full-year CR, is what they're saying now.
	That's what the Speaker said in conversations with the Senate leader.
	In addition to that, they're trying to pass a temporary reauthorization of Section 702 FISA, you know, the warrantless surveillance for the FBI, through the NDAA.
	In addition to that, there's no consequences for the 25 who voted against Jordan.
	I mean, this is bad, dude.
	It's real bad.
	All right, let's unpack that.
	Let's unpack that.
	Yeah.
	I mean, look, here's the thing.
	I still hold out hope that Speaker Johnson wants to change things, right?
	But like, hey, you know, I know he's a Star Wars fan, right?
	Like, and, uh, but hey, you know, you want to beat the Death Star, you know, you got to beat the Death Star, right?
	Like, and, uh, you know.
	Can you play 14 and 15?
	14.
	Go ahead.
	He's running, I think.
	I'm not sure after tonight.
	But currently he's running for President of the United States.
	And you think he's still going to be a candidate on November 30th?
	That's an open-ended question.
	Part of me wonders if, you know, the fact that he took this debate, the fact that he took the bait in relation... You have received the full endorsement of the President.
	How important is that right now?
	I think it's very important.
	If you look, he is the most popular Republican president amongst Republican voters in modern history in Florida.
	And that includes Ronald Reagan.
	And his overall rating in Florida is now over 50 percent because I think people see that he's delivered results on a wide variety of fronts.
	Obviously, people feel... Good.
	Play me 13.
	It's no joke getting thrown out of the house.
	I felt horrible.
	First of all, I have nothing against the migrants.
	If they would have came in like my grandparents did, like everybody else did.
	They came in from Ellis Island.
	They were examined and everything else.
	Then they were allowed to come into the States.
	And as soon as they came in, they had to have a job.
	Here, they're coming in, and they get lots of money.
	I don't get as much as they get.
	Anchor tree.
	Anchor's big.
	Thanks.
	These migrants, they're getting... Anchor tree at the top?
	Yeah.
	And I'll use the audio.
	studio. Alright.
	Making sense out of today's nonsense, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Bye.
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	All right!
	Are you going to watch the debate tonight?
	I think it's tonight.
	I think I'm going to be busy.
	I think I'll be washing my hair.
	But let's ask the man who knows everything about the swamp.
	He is the Washington Bureau Chief for the conservative juggernaut that is Breitbart.
	Welcome back, Matt Boyle.
	Dr. G, pleasure to be here.
	All right, so help me analyze what's going on tonight.
	The governor of the failed state of California is debating the failed presidential candidate, Ron DeSantis of Florida, and it's really weird because even Gavin Newsom has admitted the whole thing's a con.
	Here's Gavin Newsom on camera talking about today's big event, Cut14.
	He's running, I think, I'm not sure after tonight, but currently he's running for President of the United States.
	And you think he's still going to be a candidate on November 30th?
	That's an open-ended question.
	Part of me wonders if, you know, the fact that he took this debate, the fact that he took the bait in relation to this debate, shows that he's completely unqualified to be President of the United States.
	That's my humble first question.
	Why is that?
	You're baiting him with the debate offer?
	Of course.
	I mean, why is he debating a guy who's not even running for president when he's running for president?
	He's showing up at the Reagan Library, hallowed ground, and he puts out an ad today, not for his presidential campaign, to promote a debate against the governor of California?
	I mean, this guy's distracted.
	Maybe you can explain it to me, but that's pretty damning, Matt.
	When Newsom says he's debating me and I'm not even running for president, what's going on, Matt?
	I genuinely don't see where Governor Newsom is wrong there, right?
	And that's saying something.
	I guess broken clocks, right?
	They're right twice a day.
	The fact is, though, look, here's the deal.
	I mean, DeSantis has clearly failed in his presidential campaign.
	I thought Thanksgiving was last week, by the way, with the kids' tables, right?
	Like, so, I mean, I guess they're doing a kids' table thing a week after Thanksgiving, but look, here's the thing, is that DeSantis is clearly not making it in this presidential primary.
	He's dropped to third or worst place in New Hampshire, in South Carolina.
	Looks like he's headed that way in Iowa.
	Some surveys have him in third and Iowa already are tied for second.
	But the gist is that clearly this guy didn't make it.
	I would imagine that DeSantis is probably trying to set himself up for 2028, but look, I'll tell you right now, if DeSantis doesn't finish, this is why you're seeing this brutal battle between him and Nikki Haley for second place.
	If DeSantis doesn't finish in second in Iowa, He's done, right?
	Like, I mean, he doesn't have a future beyond this year, right?
	Like, I mean, he'll get to serve out the rest of his term as governor of Florida.
	And by the way, I happen to think he's been a good governor of Florida.
	I'm in Florida.
	I voted for him in the re-election in 2022.
	But the fact is that there's a difference between being the governor of Florida and being a presidential candidate.
	And it's just he doesn't have the juice, at least not this cycle.
	And if he wants to have a shot at it in the in the future, then I think it would be wise for him to take Governor Newsom's advice there from that interview and maybe look at leaving before the Iowa caucuses.
	Let's just add one final interesting twist to this tale.
	The man who now is attacking with regularity every day on multiple occasions, You have received the full endorsement of the president.
	This is a reminder of what the governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis, thought of the man who helped make him governor back in
	2018.
	Cut 15.
	You have received the full endorsement of the president.
	How important is that right now?
	I think it's very important.
	If you look, he is the most popular Republican president amongst Republican voters in modern history in Florida.
	And that includes Ronald Reagan.
	And his overall rating in Florida is now over 50 percent because I think people see that he's delivered results on a wide variety of fronts.
	Obviously, people feel the economy is doing better.
	But you look at something that I was working hard with him to do to move our embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
	That's got a lot of residents in Florida.
	You look at how he stood up to Raul Castro after Obama gave away the store.
	That's got a lot of residents in Florida.
	So I think it's a critical endorsement.
	I'm honored to have his support.
	And I think the voters of Florida will look at it and say, look, DeSantis is a guy that's fighting the good fight.
	He stood by the president.
	He's an Iraq veteran.
	And he's got the president's endorsement.
	Good enough for me.
	I mean, that's not a deep fake, Matt.
	That's the biggest fanboy endorsement of President Trump I've ever heard.
	So what happened to Ron?
	I mean, look, I guess it went to his head, right?
	You got all these political people around him, these political consultants and Never Trump donors and everybody.
	And the swamp in Tallahassee is pretty deep too, right?
	So there were some bad influences around Governor DeSantis and he wasn't listening to smart people.
	And I think that They steered him wrong.
	Can he fix it?
	Maybe?
	Like, down the road?
	I don't know.
	Like, again, he was on a great trajectory when he first got elected governor.
	And during his time as governor, he's been a good governor, like I said.
	But he's got a lot of work to do to fix this.
	And again, I would start with, I think, leaving the race before the Iowa caucuses.
	If he tries to ride it out until then and loses badly, it's going to cost him even more.
	I don't do this very often, but I'm going to do it now.
	My prediction is there's no way his ego will not let him withdraw before Iowa.
	We're talking to Matt Boyle.
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	channel.
	By the way, I'm not defending the guy, but like, doesn't George Santos deserve his day
	in court before they- Well, look, it was Bongino made this great point on his
	show today.
	You can't touch that guy until, you know, Ilhan Omar gets kicked out, until, you know, Rashida Tlaib gets kicked out.
	You know, let's not kind of kill our guys before the scumbags, you know, get dealt with.
	Yeah, it's just like, I feel like the guy, I mean, look, if and when he's convicted, then fine, right?
	Like, you know, and I see the move that he made here at the end where he introduced a resolution to do Bowman because Bowman has been convicted of pulling the fire alarm, right?
	It's a misdemeanor.
	But I mean, again, it's just like, I don't see the point in doing this right now, right?
	Like, so, you know, and by the way, the numbers, the House Republicans, I mean, They're tight.
	They're really tight.
	What is it?
	Four seats?
	Yeah, something like that.
	I think it's 222 to 213.
	Democrats have 213.
	But if you get rid of Santos, then McCarthy resigns, which there's all that talk about him doing that.
	I don't believe that.
	Do you believe that?
	I think he's going to.
	Really?
	You think his ego is going to let him?
	Yep.
	By the way, if I were him, why not?
	Go make some money on K Street, right?
	He's not gonna be Speaker again, he doesn't have the votes to get back there.
	Well, we know that.
	So, I mean, that's the point, right?
	Of the three of the original young guns, him, Paul Ryan, and Eric Cantor, McCarthy's clearly the suavest and the slickest of the three.
	That guy's gonna be like a pig in poo on K Street, right?
	So, like, I mean, come on, man.
	He's gonna go make millions, right?
	Like, if I were him, I would head for the... Oh, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Keep the mics up.
	Give me line two.
	Mic's on.
	Yes.
	Who's this?
	Hi, this is Henry.
	Yes, Henry.
	What's your comment?
	What's your question?
	I just wanted to talk about Kissinger a little bit and, you know, give my condolences to his family.
	And just kind of see what you think his legacy is going to be since it's, you know, 50 years out from the Vietnam War.
	Yeah, I did that in the monologue.
	Weren't you listening?
	I was able to tune in about 10 minutes ago.
	Yeah, I'm not going to repeat it again.
	And I'm sure you want to... I'm sure you want to give your condolences to his family because that's the kind of guy you are, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Go away, you little man.
	You sad, pathetic little man.
	Go away.
	Okay.
	Uh, you can block.
	That was so obvious.
	No, I thought he was just a nice guy.
	He just wanted to offer his condolences.
	Yeah, condolences, because that's what people are doing.
	They're offering their condolences for Kissinger today.
	He sounded young, too.
	He had the one comment he wanted to say, but then he thought you might let him, but he was like, well, yeah.
	Alright, 40 seconds, Matt.
	Yep.
	Coming in with something here or no?
	Oh my gosh, we've got so much stuff.
	We did Ron, we did... We haven't done Elon yet.
	I know you wanted to... No, Elon's gonna be in the second hour.
	How about we just do Congressman Trump?
	It's like a liner.
	We'll do that in a second.
	Come in with 10.
	Come in with 10.
	with 10 shift.
	I'm going to go ahead and get started.
	Uh, you know, but for Adam and Liz on that committee, none of these witnesses would have come forward.
	What made the hearing so powerful is that all the witnesses, almost all of them, were Republicans.
	They came forward because of Liz and Adam.
	With the leadership of Benny Thompson, we worked together notwithstanding, you know, deep ideological differences that each of us had with each other.
	I never thought I would be singing so many praises of a Cheney before, but I came to deeply respect her.
	That's never a good thing for a Republican.
	Well, she was a Republican, I guess, Liz Cheney, to have their praises sung by Adam Schiff.
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	All right, for the latest update for what's really happening on Capitol Hill,
	Let's talk to our buddy, the Washington Bureau Chief for Breitbart.com.
	You said in the break something about the breakout separate budgets aren't going to happen.
	Are we back in continuing resolution land, Matt?
	Yeah, well, I mean, they passed one before Thanksgiving, right?
	I mean, they split the government into two different funding deadlines.
	In the early part of next year.
	But the fact is, is that it's still a continuing resolution.
	It's for longer than what they ousted Speaker McCarthy over, right?
	And now the new Speaker, Mike Johnson, who I still hold out great hope for, but we're not seeing it yet.
	But the fact is, is that Speaker Johnson is now Apparently, in a meeting yesterday, Mitch McConnell was saying that if the Senate doesn't agree to take up and pass the House passed appropriations bills, they're just gonna abandon them all together and go to a year-long continuing resolution.
	I mean, that's exactly what they ousted McCarthy over for 45 days, not a whole year.
	Are we having to draw the conclusion that Johnson is just another Kevin McCarthy or is that too early?
	I think it's too early but there's some things that are troubling regarding some of the things that he hasn't done yet.
	Now look it's good that he released the J6 tapes I think that's good as a moment of transparency though I haven't really seen like any major explosive moment from those that like changes the narrative one way or the other but okay They're out there now, so that's a good thing.
	But look, the 25 people who voted against Jim Jordan three times on the floor of the House of Representatives, they have faced zero consequences for their actions.
	And I think we need to see these people faced real quick.
	What would that look like?
	Reasonable things could happen in response to those 25 who scuppered Jim Jordan.
	Well, first off, they shouldn't get to serve on A committees, right?
	Like, A committees are like the really powerful committees, like Appropriations, Armed Services, Ways and Means, right?
	Like, they definitely shouldn't share!
	any committee, never mind an A committee, one of them is a chairwoman of the appropriations
	committee. So the person who, for the House of Representatives, decides where your tax dollars
	get sent has faced no consequences, Kay Granger from Texas, for what she did. And that, Speaker
	Johnson could take steps to get rid of her.
	He can't just, like, wave a magic wand and get rid of her, but he can come out and say she needs to go, and that we need to have somebody new, and then the steering committee, which he controls, kind of, would be able to do certain things in that regard.
	He could say that Vern Buchanan of Florida, who he did a fundraiser with this weekend, should never chair the Ways and Means Committee, which writes our tax laws, right?
	Like, those are things that he could do In addition to that, that he could not support them for re-election.
	So one of them is out there, Mike Simpson from Idaho, is out there now trying to say
	that he's going to run for re-election despite all of this.
	This guy's one of the worst career politicians.
	He's graded A-grade by all the pro-Ukraine funding groups.
	Where is Speaker Johnson in saying we need to have new people?
	So those are things that the Speaker can do, the Speakers have done in the past when people
	voted against the party.
	And this Speaker hasn't done yet, and I think that the lack of consequences there is why
	you've got.
	Some members like Congressman Max Miller who's very close with President Trump from Ohio was out there in Politico last night saying that he thinks Johnson would lose 60 to 80 votes even though he got unanimously elected just over a month ago.
	Let's give him a little bit longer.
	The signs do not all go well.
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	Oh, you still there, Matt?
	Nope.
	Sounds like he's gone.
	Okay.
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	Uh, Henry Kissin- Henry Kissinger's real legacy.
	Mm-hmm.
	And and Chris.
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	Well, I'll tell you what the...
	Oh, I was saying...
	Lots of people in the chat are talking about the Ben Carson speculation from Twitter last night.
	Oh yeah?
	Who floated that?
	It was a Twitter account called the Calvin Coolidge Project.
	Oh, that's right.
	who said sources close to President Trump's thinking have told me.
	Oh, go ahead and turn the mics off, Alex.
	I'm going to turn them off.
	You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
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	He said he's in maintenance mode and he's doing very good.
	Are you ever tempted to try it out?
	I'm not saying anything about, you know, how large you are, but do you think your wife would be happy if you went on the PhD program?
	A little bit, yeah, and I'm really looking forward to the maintenance plan.
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	Maybe we should have a word with Dr. Ashley Lucas.
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	Okay, it seems like ancient history.
	Remember that chap Obama and his thing Obamacare that tried to nationalize your healthcare?
	Well, it's not over.
	It's gonna expand.
	If that crazy radical who honeymooned, yes, If you don't believe me, look it up.
	Honeymooned in the Soviet Union.
	Bernie Saunders of Vermont.
	If he gets away with his Senate Bill S1339, it's gonna get worse.
	How worse?
	Well, let's talk to somebody who knows.
	He's an expert in government waste.
	He is the President of Citizens Against Government Waste and the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste.
	Thomas Schatz, welcome to America First.
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	Glad to be on.
	Thank you.
	So, Mr. Schatz, can you explain to us, because, you know, there's so many bills flying around, there's all kinds of shenanigans on Capitol Hill.
	What's the deep truth?
	What's the backstory to Senate Bill 1339?
	What's the real goal?
	The real goal is what Senator Bernie Sanders has been trying to do ever since he was elected to Congress.
	Nationalized healthcare.
	Obamacare wasn't enough for him.
	He wanted to do more and still wants to do more.
	Everything he does is with the ultimate goal of having the government take control of not just what doctor you can choose and not where you can go and get your medication.
	It's every decision that can be made We'll be made by a government bureaucrat and there are some technical issues with the bill but the point is that all of it leads to government-run healthcare which is why we've been initiating this effort to make sure that
	Fiscally conservative senators in particular don't do anything that has anything to do with supporting Bernie's ultimate goal of nationalized health care.
	So let's drill down on specifically what this radical bill proposes.
	There's this thing, this position, pharmacy benefit managers, who I know save you and me at least a thousand bucks every year on our prescriptions.
	What happens if radical Bernie's Senate bill passes?
	What happens to them, Mr. Schatz?
	Well, it would lead to the elimination eventually of those benefits, or certainly a lessening of the benefits that are provided now.
	275 million Americans that receive pharmacy benefits through a pharmacy benefit manager
	that is hired by their employer.
	Could be a federal, state, local government, small or large business, a labor union.
	A very, very popular and completely voluntary arrangement that helps to save money.
	If it didn't work, then these employers wouldn't do it.
	Their employees would be saying, Wait a minute, this costs too much.
	I need to get this somewhere else.
	But it saves money, and it's a very visible way to save money, and that's why it's so popular.
	Now, up at your website, please, everybody needs, if you want to control your health care, you need to go to www.lowermydrugprices.com.
	That's www.lowermydrugprices.com.
	You'll find a petition.
	You'll find a call to action.
	Would you address, because look, it's all patriots listening to this show across the country and they get bombarded everyday emails and other things.
	They are rightly skeptical of petitions, but could you explain why it's so important, especially on this issue of all issues, to have their voices be heard?
	Well, we have stopped it so far.
	There were some who thought this might occur, might get passed on to the Senate floor before the recess in August.
	We stopped that.
	We expect that it should be stopped before the end of the current year.
	Now, of course, Congress goes, this session of Congress continues next year, so the fight will continue.
	But the more that people speak out about this, the more impact it will have.
	And we already have heard from some of the senators that are the subject of the ads, or at least having the ads come into their states, that they are kind
	of having second thoughts about supporting Bernie because it really doesn't look so good when somebody
	does that and they're supposed to be fiscally conservative. Yeah, we understand inflation,
	rising food costs, the price of gas, but isn't this the ultimate form of control, Mr. Schatz?
	If you can control whether or not people have the right to decide over their health care, or the cost of the way they provide for their health care, there's nothing more chilling, is there?
	No, there isn't.
	And again, this is something that is agreed upon, it's decided completely as a voluntary agreement between the employer or a union and the PBMs, and the benefit is provided to the employees as something that helps them save money.
	It kind of can't be simpler than that.
	Now, sometimes they're referred to as quote-unquote middlemen, but so is a wholesaler, so is Costco, so is a car dealer.
	You know, they don't make what they're selling, but they help facilitate the sale and the benefit to people of providing, in this case, pharmaceuticals and other pharmacy benefits.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It should be between you, your employer, and the rest of your healthcare should be between you and your doctor.
	Let's stop the radical from Vermont.
	The very easiest way to do that is to go right now to lowermydrugprices.com.
	Let your voice be heard before it is too late.
	We've been talking to Tom Schatz, President of the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste.
	You can follow him on Twitter at Thomas A. Schatz.
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	Thank you, Mr. Schatz.
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	Yeah.
	But are you running it?
	Because if somebody wants to invite me, I think that's Charlie Kirk, right?
	Yeah, of course it's his event, but I'll invite you.
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	Forty-five seconds.
	Want to use anything here?
	Uh, wow, we've got so much to do.
	We have Super Short, Congressman Trump.
	Come in with Congressman, that's too good.
	Super, that's Cutthroat, Super Short.
	Yeah, like Geoff said, it's basically a liner.
	Alright.
	And then Deng Xiaoping, I'll tee that up.
	Who was that?
	He's the Emperor of China under Communism.
	Ask Guy, he can tell you.
	All right, 15 seconds.
	Instead of cutting them, it's like Congressman Trump and Boebner wanted to.
	Bye.
	What?
	I'm not sure I got that.
	Jeff, what did Biden say there?
	He was talking about Congressman Trump, you know.
	Congressman Trump?
	Yeah, you know the thing.
	Congressman Trump.
	You mean life, liberty, and you know the thing?
	Sorry, play that again, Eric.
	That's just too good.
	Play that again.
	Instead of cutting them, it's like Congressman Trump and Beaufort want to do.
	Unbelievable.
	But I think it gets better.
	What's this other cut you've got here?
	What is this about Biden and Deng Xiaoping?
	I think he's dead.
	Cut six.
	I've said this and I've said this to Deng Xiaoping and the Himalayas and I've said this to every world leader.
	It's never, never, never been a good bet to bet against the American people.
	Never, never, never.
	Hey, Guy, help me out here.
	The paramount leader who took over from Mao, Deng Xiaoping, isn't he dead?
	Yes, sir.
	He passed away in 1997.
	So not like last week, 1997.
	Yes, sir.
	So not like last week, 1997.
	Yes sir.
	And how would he have met him in the Himalayas?
	I have no idea.
	Yeah, you have no idea because it's a load of garbage.
	Oh my gosh, the guy is so flipping senile.
	It's frightening.
	Alright, let's go to our good buddy.
	Let's go to Victor in Silver Spring.
	Sebastian, I've been listening to this all day long about this Jack Smith or whatever his name is.
	So anybody who tweeted on Twitter from October of 2020 through January of 2021 You're going to get a knock on your front door and possibly be arrested.
	Well, I don't know about that.
	Let's not jump the gun.
	Jack Smith got a warrant from the DOJ for the names and addresses of all social media users who liked any post by President Trump pertaining to his trial.
	That's police state tactics.
	It's an outrage.
	It means we have arrived in a police state.
	What happens next?
	We've got to keep banging the drum so they know that we are watching them.
	Thank you, Victor.
	Oh my gosh, is it Thursday?
	Antoinette, we've got 73 seconds.
	Tell us what's going on in your life.
	Actually, this is an American Latina calling incognito.
	I hope you didn't like any tweets from President Trump, Antoinette.
	Well, part of our group did go to Washington D.C.
	on January 6th.
	Oh my gosh!
	Don't admit it live on radio!
	Hey, I'm in Calvito!
	I'm calling in Calvito!
	We need all pro-lifers to kidnap all Democrats.
	We're going to use them as hostages until we can secure those young women and babies out of all the Planned Parenthoods across the United States.
	Said in jest, I'm sure, but we do need to rescue.
	I saw this article yesterday.
	More than 40,000 babies are alive now because Roe v. Wade was thrown out by the Supreme Court in just the last year.
	It's amazing.
	God bless you Antoinette.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	stay on this channel.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
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	How bad is the situation?
	As we discussed in the first hour, I think we've arrived.
	It's kind of like being drowned out by all the other noise, the war in Israel, the debates, everything else, the budget, the economy, Biden calling President Trump, Congressman Trump, amongst all the noise.
	We've got to focus on what's really important.
	Jack Smith, for example, a man who is a special counsel, a special prosecutor, godlike powers, independent of the Attorney General, who we just found out was issued warrants by the Department of Justice for any American who dared to like or repost a social media post by President Trump.
	to reveal their name and their address yeah he got that warrant that's millions if not tens of millions of americans and that happened in america but it's only the tip of the iceberg another story which is Perhaps even more disturbing, because it actually makes us more vulnerable to external threats, is from our good friend, she's going to explain all the details, retired Supervisory Federal Air Marshal of the Air Marshal National Council, Sonia Libosco.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thanks, Dr. Garkin.
	Thanks for having me.
	Oh my gosh, look what she's wearing.
	I have one of those.
	It's the Suspendables pin.
	I've got mine here.
	It just arrived yesterday from me.
	Right, in solidarity.
	The brave, brave FBI whistleblowers, Steve Friend, Kyle Serafin, Garrett O'Boyle, and the rest.
	God bless all of you guys.
	So let's put the story up on the screen.
	It's making the rounds.
	So good to see you coming out of the faucet on all decent conservative media platforms.
	I'll just read the title from our buddy Luke Rosiak at The Daily Wire.
	Federal air marshals diverted from sensitive flights to follow January 6 suspects.
	Okay, so first things first, let's say we come to this story completely unaware of The context.
	What are the federal air marshals?
	Let's start with that.
	What should they be doing, Sonja?
	Well, Dr. Gorka, we should be trying to thwart anyone taking over an aircraft in a hijacking.
	That was our job after 9-11.
	But that has changed under the Biden administration.
	And how has it changed?
	And what is the veracity of this latest report?
	Well, there's only two things air marshals are doing.
	One, we're down on the border and we are ushering migrants across the border and helping them enter the country.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Air marshals on the border?
	What?
	We're there.
	We're down on the border handing out water.
	We're making sandwiches.
	We're handing out band-aids.
	We're doing every non-law enforcement duty you can imagine.
	That's correct.
	We're down there.
	What's the other thing that they've been retasked to do?
	The second thing we're doing is following anyone that was in the National Capital Region in the time frame of January 6, 2021.
	That's our second task.
	All right.
	Expand upon that.
	Give us more details.
	You're being very, very tight-lipped and curt in your answers.
	Tell us how bad it is.
	It's bad.
	We're blinking red, Dr. Gorga.
	It couldn't get any worse than where we are right now.
	We're at the largest aviation threat matrix that you could get in our country.
	The same as it was on 9-11, and we do not have the resources looking for known suspected terrorists because we're out distracted.
	Being on the border and we're following people from January the 6th for a political agenda.
	It's really as bad as it's going to get before something critical happens.
	So I'm a little confused here because we've seen in the space of 90 days 150 individuals identified on the terror watch list coming into the nation illegally.
	Those are the ones that we know of.
	We know September the 11th was a hijacking.
	It was only 19 people who affected the death of 3,000 people in 102 minutes.
	So when we have almost 10 times that number cross into America in three months, then it's pretty, you know, you don't have to have a clearance to understand that the threat level is a maximum threat level.
	You should be making sure that those flights are safe.
	That is your job as air marshals.
	I'm going to ask a really naive question.
	Forgive me, Sonia, if it sounds naive.
	When a federal air marshal Whose job is to protect air flight in America so that we can go home at Thanksgiving, we can travel on business, go on vacation.
	When they are given a threat tasking to surveil and track and follow people who came to Washington D.C.
	on January 6th, how do they react and why would they obey those orders?
	Well, the reaction is not good.
	I mean, the air marshals don't want to be doing this, Dr. Gorka.
	At the end of the day, these are patriots that came over after 9-11 to keep us from having another hijacking.
	They're obeying these orders because they're going to be fired if they don't.
	If they don't do it, they're going to be fired.
	We have many that have been disciplined, that have been threatened with removal because they won't do these taskings.
	And they have to do it.
	And the agency is very aware of the rights that they're violating, and that we're not tracking those 160-plus that came across the border.
	We don't even know where they are.
	But we do know where the January 6 people are.
	That's for sure.
	So let's... we don't want to paint the devil on the wall, but if we have open borders, if we have Hamas slaughtering innocents to the extent they are in the Middle East and wanting to do it to Jews and Christians anywhere, what's the likelihood of something very bad happening If air marshals are being used for political purposes and not actually executing the mission they were created to execute.
	Well, we know from history that on 9-11 we lost 2,977 people were murdered and history tells us that's exactly what they want to do is take our aviation over again.
	So it's not that that big of a stretch to think that they want to take our aviation again.
	So this simply is ridiculous.
	What's happening within the Biden administration, DHS and TSA is a debacle.
	And there needs to be some accountability because Americans are going to die if we don't do something.
	This is not about immigration, inflation and incompetence.
	This is about saving American lives.
	And that's what we want to do.
	The FBI has a handful of whistleblowers.
	I've mentioned some of their names.
	They've all been guests on this show.
	Are there any air marshal whistleblowers who are prepared to say the truth and are prepared to say, I'm sorry, my pension is less important than the safety of my fellow Americans and the oath I swore?
	They've done that, Dr. Corker.
	They have gone.
	We have been rallying behind the scenes in Congress.
	They've provided testimony to oversight committees.
	We'll be back there next week.
	We need some action.
	We've brought the evidence forward.
	We can prove it.
	We have the air marshals that have testified to it.
	So now it's just a matter of somebody taking control and putting our air marshals back in the planes where they need to be and getting off this political pendulum that we're swinging on.
	All right.
	Well, God bless you.
	Please follow this lady, airmarshallnc.com.
	That's for National Council.
	That's airmarshallnc.com.
	And also on Twitter at Sonia Labosco.
	That's L-A-B-O-S-C-O, Labosco, Sonia, S-O-N-Y-I-Y-A.
	Keep doing what you do.
	God bless you, Sonia.
	And we need to hear more whistleblowers coming out of all the organs of federal government that are being used as a political police force.
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	you you
	Thank you, Dr. Rourke.
	This is Steve.
	How are you?
	Good, good.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Back in the 80s, you know, I used to be an activist against Henry Kissinger, and he came to my hometown on a certain suspicious date, and then he backed down, then he came back again on another suspicious date, and I confronted him in the middle of a speech, stood up, and he insinuated that I'll never live to see my story break in my lifetime.
	But just before he died, I blamed him on LeninMurderTruth.com, We're giving Nixon the idea to kill John Lennon and then weeks later he dies.
	I found that kind of interesting because he pays attention to LennonMurderTruth.com.
	Yeah, you're a conspiracy theorist, goodbye.
	Jeff recognized him.
	For a moment he said, is this the Lennon guy?
	Right before he said John Lennon and we're just like, how do you remember these?
	I forgot about the Lennon call.
	I thought it would have been funny because I thought he was a war activist.
	That's why I knew he was off.
	Oh man.
	This guy is still on the Lennon thing.
	I completely forgot about that guy.
	I give him credit that he hasn't changed from that conspiracy.
	Like of all things, a musician getting assassinated?
	You want to post that one?
	Uh, yes.
	Right.
	Title?
	Biden using air marshals to spy on you.
	Two minutes.
	Angel tree.
	Oh, good.
	If anything, the Deep State would love Lennon.
	He was a lefty, right?
	Total!
	Commie!
	He's a complete commie.
	They gave him a better chance convincing me that there was a conspiracy to kill Buddy Holly.
	Oh, hang on.
	What if we... We need to do Piers at some point.
	We've done Shift.
	We need to do Musk.
	We'll do Musk.
	The Don Jr.
	cut is also pretty good.
	But it's long, isn't it?
	It's a minute long.
	Play it for me.
	Cut.
	Eight.
	They want someone who answers to them.
	They want someone that has no choice but to answer to them because their entire political existence is due to them and their money.
	So they're desperate to stop that.
	You've seen that.
	That's the Uni Party all over again.
	They don't care if it's this or that.
	They want the power and they control.
	They see that over at Fox News.
	They gave Ron DeSantis the perpetual lap dance for two years.
	They realize he's not the guy so now they're going to Nikki Haley because they want someone that when they call, whether it's good for the American people or not, if it serves their agenda, they ask How high would you like me to jump, Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, Paul Ryan, the board, whatever it may be.
	It's not about the American people.
	And the faster the American people understand that the quote-unquote conservatives, even the conservatives out there from the billionaires... All right, he took me to the top and he's on the line.
	Oh, can you get his homepage for his website?
	I have it.
	Okay, can you show it to me?
	It is this.
	Is my audio working, guys?
	Yeah, you're good.
	Can you just scooch to the left two inches?
	You're not in Israel, are you?
	No, it's a... I'm in studio.
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	Alright, there's a guy out there who I like.
	He's a bit of an iconoclast.
	He's an actor.
	He's a watchmaker.
	And you know me.
	I'm a watch geek.
	I like guns.
	I like cigars.
	And I like watches.
	And he has an amazing company called Eggard Watches, but he's also a truth teller.
	And he's got something to say about what matters in life.
	Ilan Sorovich, welcome back to America First.
	Always happy to be here.
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	All right, so let's tell, let's show our millions of listeners and viewers the kind of trouble you've been getting yourself into.
	This is from the Worthy Man podcast.
	Play cut.
	And when people say there's a spiritual battle, I'm someone who grew up without any true form of connection to religion, and in recent years, because of everything I see, I realize it's the glue that will hold things together, because I have to have a reason why I believe in some kind of absolute ethic, why the denial of basic realities is wrong, because if I don't have that, I have nothing.
	And I realize that that ideology has permeated so strongly on the left that the only road that you are left with is nihilism.
	Which is why these people are seeking such identity in this.
	They're gripping onto this as their mode to value.
	So, we brought you on the show A while ago, because of your outspoken attitude to... Well, you did some amazing videos on manhood and the assault on the concept of what a woman is with the whole transgender insanity and the fake female athletes out there.
	What has made you do what you've done now to talk about religion and your Jewish heritage?
	Because I didn't even know you had Jewish heritage.
	So explain why you've taken this additional step, Ilan.
	I think it's all connected.
	I think the denial of absolute truth that we see that led to the breakdown of gender is directly tied to religion.
	It's directly tied to the fact that they don't have a belief in something greater than the self.
	And so what they do is they latch on to identities.
	It's where they get their value in life.
	It's why we see obsession with all types of unhealthy new kind of things like identity politics has taken over the left.
	Again, you have two choices.
	You're either going to believe in some kind of absolute truth, absolute ethic.
	The only way you can believe that is if you believe in a higher power.
	Or you're going to believe in moral relativism, which leads to a complete breakdown of objective truth.
	And then there's nothing left after that except for nihilism.
	And we live in a world of chaos.
	So I've been connected to my religion.
	I've been reconnected to it through seeing the evils in the world.
	They woke me up to what actually matters.
	And what matters is that we come back to this.
	That we reactivate our faith.
	That we reactivate that part of ourselves that was connecting to something greater.
	I'm going to talk about what Elon Musk did yesterday, but you're a CEO as well.
	God bless him for speaking out about, you know, having to kill all the terrorists and, you know, how he's going to deal with cancel culture.
	I know there's only two people, two CEOs I'm talking of right now, but are we seeing potentially a pattern?
	Do you think people who aren't politicians, but who have influence, I'm an optimist.
	I've got a platform, enough is enough.
	Are these one-offs, or do you feel something good is happening?
	No, I feel like something good's happening.
	I'm an optimist.
	I think that there's a trend of shifting kind of ability in terms of people self-censoring.
	I think that people are stopping to self-censor like they used to.
	I think they're starting to speak up for themselves.
	They're starting to risk more.
	They're starting to realize it's okay because it takes a few people to open the door and say, hey, we can do this.
	We can deal with cancel culture.
	We can deal with all the ills in the world.
	And if we don't do it, the consequences are going to be far more severe.
	So I think you're starting to see people follow that trend.
	And as it becomes more normalized, it's like a snowball effect.
	It takes one person to make three people, takes three people to make 20 people, takes 20 people to make A million people.
	It just snowballs.
	So I'm hoping that's what we're seeing.
	All right, we have some breaking news right now.
	Six additional hostages, this is from the IDF, have been released and they're on their
	way.
	The ambulances are getting ready to take them back to Israel, so that's great.
	In the last minute or two we have with you, Ilan, we're talking to the CEO of Egard Watches,
	that's E-G-A-R-D, EgardWatches.com.
	What is your message to those who likewise aren't politicians, maybe successful businessmen
	or just have some kind of platform that they do in the arts, for example, who think, you
	know...
	Is there any point to me speaking out?
	You have.
	Elon has.
	What is your message to those who aren't sure that they should also speak their mind?
	I would say to anyone who has influence, why did you seek it in the first place?
	Why did you seek an ability to express yourself artistically if you're just going to self-censor yourself?
	You have to put that into the world.
	That is why you worked so hard to begin with.
	And it gets to a point where you have to make a decision if some things are worth sacrificing for the greater good, for spreading truth into the world.
	So, it's a decision I made and it will reward you greatly.
	I strongly believe that.
	I believe you will be rewarded for the good you do.
	And you can just flip it.
	If you had power, If you had influence and you didn't use it for the good, I guarantee you, you will regret it.
	God bless you, Ilan.
	Let's get you back for, let's get you back for the manhood hour.
	Let's get you back to talk more about these amazing issues.
	God bless you for what you're doing from your perch.
	There's a successful man in the business sector.
	Follow him at SRULOVICZ, that's S-R-U-L-O-V-I-C-Z, on social media, and egardwatches.com.
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	We'll be back with your calls in a moment.
	you you
	you sent me Talia, it's the student you got me for Newsmax.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, because she was really good.
	Oh, good.
	Yeah, she was great.
	Title for Irlan?
	If you have influence, why aren't you using it?
	Question mark.
	So you want to use the Elon cuts here?
	Um, actually, I've got C and D. So, I think I should probably take calls.
	I know Brent has been asking a long time, and then we'll do Elon in the D. So, uh, you can block, and then I'll take calls here.
	Okay.
	Uh, maybe there's a cut I can use that I won't use for Elon.
	Maybe Trump?
	Or what?
	The Piers Morgan one.
	Oh, the Piers, yes.
	It's long, but yeah, that's... Yes, yes.
	Where is that?
	It's cut nine.
	It's 95 seconds.
	Cut nine.
	Okay, good.
	Yeah, I'll do that, and then I'll go to...
	Brent.
	You'll tee it up?
	Okay.
	Colleen and Jerry.
	Those really are some nice watches.
	I'm looking at the website now.
	Yeah, I haven't even looked at the latest stuff.
	There's just something popped up on my feed.
	They all have this similar look.
	They really show all the gears underneath.
	I know, which is really cool.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	One minute.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Thirty seconds.
	All right, so I'll tee up.
	Nine.
	Morgan vs. Ritman.
	This is a test.
	This is a test.
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	My turn.
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	All right, we're gonna go to your calls, but first, There's a scum gitbag called Piers Morgan.
	He's the closest you get to a male prostitute in the media.
	He's just an information whore, I'm sorry to say.
	And he also has no morals.
	This is how he treated Carl Rittenhouse on his show.
	Cut nine.
	You killed two people and you wounded a third.
	How do you feel about that?
	Well, Pierce, they attacked me.
	They left me with no choice.
	I have nightmares every night of being attacked and being ambushed and them trying to steal my gun and pointing guns at my face.
	It's not an easy thing to do, but I did what I had to do to stay alive, and if I didn't, I would be dead.
	Yeah, listen, you were acquitted, and many in America believe that you had the absolute right to defend yourself.
	I'm just curious, on a human level, you know, you're very young even now.
	What are you, 20 years old now?
	Yes, sir.
	And you've killed two human beings and wounded a third.
	I just wonder how that feels.
	I don't think that's an appropriate question to ask how it feels.
	It's not an easy thing to do.
	It's something I live with every single day.
	It's nightmares I have.
	It's something that I have to deal with.
	I have to deal with the PTSD and the trauma from having to do that.
	Right, but it seems to me your emotions are more about you and your trauma because your life has been threatened and that side of it, rather than the question I'm asking, which is simply on a human level, how do you feel about being so young and yet having on the record for the rest of your life now that you took the lives of two people, regardless of the circumstances?
	And like I just said, it's something I deal with every day.
	I deal with the PTSD and the trauma and the nightmares.
	Jeff, can I use the word penis on radio?
	It's just it.
	Piers Morgan, you are a shriveled little sad penis.
	How dare you?
	How dare you do that?
	A, what kind of cretin Who thinks he's a journalist, says, how does it feel?
	And then, to say, how does it feel to kill another human being?
	Oh, you mean the human being that was pointing a gun at my head and trying to murder me?
	Piers Morgan.
	I don't hate many people in this world because it's un-Christian, but I detest you.
	You are a horse's ass, you are a male member, a small shriveled male member, and you bring nothing of worth to the human race.
	Unlike our friend Brent!
	Los Angeles waiting very patiently.
	Hey buddy, what's up?
	Hello Great Debater Gorka!
	I'm still waiting for the video.
	It's going to take two weeks for the Oxford Union to post my video of my debate with Bernie Sanders' brother Napal Ryan.
	What a bunch of... I know you're students, but could you get your act together please in Oxford, please?
	Alright Brent, what brings you to our show today?
	I wanted to say, this is how I want DeSantis to open his Cirque du Soleil debate with California's neo-Nazi Newsom.
	It is with the greatest dishonor and duplicity that I have desperately decided to disgrace, demean, and humiliate myself by sharing a surreal stage with California's single most vicious, vile, degenerate, and destructive governor in its history.
	And not since Sodom and Gomorrah has a governor done so much to incinerate its once great state and citizens and invite God's wrath upon his pagan predation and barbarism.
	And if a simple, mostly moral, common-sense governor with an admirable and successful track record in Florida can't look good against a monster like you, I simply can't look good anywhere.
	Yeah, I sincerely doubt that that's what Ron is going to challenge tonight, but... Are we gonna... Jeff, are we gonna be watching the debate tonight?
	I am.
	Eric, are you gonna be watching it?
	I'm 50-50 at this point.
	Alex, are you gonna be watching it?
	Probably not.
	It's not good on radio.
	A thumbs down is not a good way to answer a question on radio.
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	Am I going to watch it?
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	There's certain things you can say.
	I know, like piss you can say if you're pissed off.
	F word, S word, C word, but there's four more.
	What are the big seven?
	F.S.C.
	Voter fraud?
	Covid, right.
	Crap.
	Let me look at it.
	You can say bastard, you can say bitch.
	But you can't call someone a son-of-a.
	What?
	How many of you did that on live TV after Osama bin Laden was killed?
	You can say bitch, but not son-of-a-bitch.
	I think so.
	A lot of stations, though.
	I think ours are a little... But I say S.O.B.
	all the time.
	Yeah.
	We're gonna have fun with Musk.
	Fun with Musk.
	I wish Rittenhouse would have just kept asking how to feel to take over Larry King's iconic show and get it cancelled.
	That's what I would have said every time.
	I really feel sorry for him.
	That was ridiculous.
	We gotta post that.
	Can you post that?
	Oh, that video thing?
	Give me the card, guy.
	Maybe when he gets older and is further away from the incident, but Rittenhouse should not apologize.
	I mean, keep in mind, the two people he killed, one was a literal pedophile, the other was a woman beater.
	So like, I mean... Speaks for itself.
	Doesn't matter who they are, they're trying to kill him.
	Exactly, exactly.
	Yeah.
	What do you want to call that?
	A cat.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Piers Morgan is censored.
	Piers Morgan is a penis.
	Penis Morgan.
	God, that's making the title.
	It'll get eyeballs!
	I mean, I mean... Why not?
	30 seconds.
	You're gonna tee up the musk cuts?
	Yep.
	I'm sorry.
	No.
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	Okay, Elon Musk, he just keeps on trucking.
	I love it.
	I don't know if I'm naive about it.
	Hey, Mr. G, you're unusual because you're not just a media guy.
	You've worked in the private sector.
	You've been successful in business.
	I've got a question to ask you about what Elon just did and whether Whether it's bad for business.
	So he was at some, what was it, New York Times event, and the first thing he did is he answered a question about how the New York Times, were they being censored on Twitter?
	This is Cut 12.
	The New York Times company and the New York Times newspaper, it appeared over the summer to be throttled.
	What did?
	The New York Times.
	Well, we do require that everyone has to buy a subscription and we don't make exceptions for anyone.
	And I think if I want the New York Times, I have to pay for a subscription.
	And they don't give me a free subscription.
	So I'm not going to give them a free subscription.
	But were you throttling the New York Times relative to other news organizations, relative to everybody else?
	Was it specific to the Times?
	They didn't buy a subscription.
	And by the way, it only costs like $1,000 a month.
	So if they just do that, then they're back in the saddle.
	So at a New York Times event, he's making fun of the New York Times saying, well, you didn't pay for your subscription level membership of Twitter, so what do you expect?
	Of course you're going to be discriminated against.
	But it gets better when he is asked about advertisers trying to put political pressure on him as the new owner of Twitter.
	We had to bleep a little bit of this out, but it was delicious.
	Cut 11.
	Um, but there's a public perception that that was part of a apology tour, if you will.
	That this had been said online, there was all of the criticism, there was advertisers leaving.
	We talked to Bob Iger today.
	I hope they stop.
	You hope?
	Uh, don't advertise.
	You don't want them to advertise?
	No.
	What do you mean?
	If somebody's gonna try to blackmail me with advertising?
	Blackmail me with money?
	money, go fk yourself. But go fk yourself.
	Is that clear?
	I hope it is.
	Hey Bob, if you're in the audience.
	Well let me ask you then.
	That's how I feel.
	Don't advertise.
	He said basically fornicate yourself.
	And he said, hi Bob, and I think that we all agree that's Bob Iger of Disney who was in the audience.
	Jeff, you're the best person because I don't know anything about private business.
	I was in the private sector after I left college.
	I hated it.
	I've been doing, you know, government work and academic work since then and now this.
	Is that dumb on behalf of Elon as a guy running a business to say basically fornicate yourself if you want to blackmail me and not advertise?
	No, because they're going to do it anyway.
	So what does he care?
	And first of all, he's the richest guy in the world.
	You're not going to push him around.
	He doesn't need their advertising.
	So you think he can still be super successful and call them out?
	I think he's trying to start a movement here because this is at the same time where Dana White now went on his third podcast this week with the same exact message.
	And I think that these are two guys that are very well known.
	They have a ton of money.
	I think they're trying to get this culture out there.
	That we don't have to cave into the cancel culture.
	Just forget about these people.
	And you know the private sector.
	Can we do it?
	Can we break these bastards?
	Mmm, it's gonna be tough, but I'll tell you if more people like that with that type of influence start talking like that, people are just gonna get sick of it.
	People are getting sick of cancer culture anyway.
	Now's the time to do it.
	People have been dealing with this for 10 years.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	What was it?
	Was it the Chieftains game?
	What was that it?
	The Chiefs game?
	Oh, yeah.
	With a kid?
	Yeah.
	Where they tried to get on a kid with blackface and his face was red and black?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The reaction to that Tells you that Americans have had enough.
	All right.
	I hope you're right, Jeff.
	I just so hope you're right.
	Let's go to Colleen in Connecticut.
	Hi, good afternoon, Dr. G and Jeff.
	Hey.
	So I wanted to quickly break down what your other caller had said.
	I kind of missed a newsflash or something today.
	Are they saying that Jack Smith has received a warrant to serve upon social media companies to get the name and address?
	Yes.
	First off, Elon is not going to cooperate with that, I would assume?
	No, no, no, no.
	But I don't know what the date was of the original warrant.
	I think it was before he bought the company.
	Okay, but now that he owns the company, he's got all the dead bodies and names, correct?
	Well, no, he's in control.
	If Twitter didn't comply prior to his purchase, then you know he's not going to comply.
	But that's not the issue here, Colleen.
	The issue is the Department of Justice gave Jack Smith the warrant.
	Oh, I see.
	All right, so the warrant has already been served.
	Yes!
	Well, no, no, no, that's different.
	Serving it is when the subject has issued it.
	Jack Smith requested it and was granted it.
	That's different from serving it.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	And so, out of curiosity, how much money are we thinking that the FBI is spending to look at people who liked a post?
	I mean, police stay here, right?
	Millions.
	Millions.
	Millions of dollars.
	It's gotta be.
	Yeah.
	It's gotta be.
	Insane.
	Yeah.
	No, you're absolutely right.
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	All that Christmas stuff.
	And I guess once we're going to have to play Mariah Carey.
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	Just once.
	I just heard it on the radio yesterday.
	I don't get why that song is like the, like, I will never understand.
	It's not bad, but I'm like, this is the one that everyone instantly makes memes about and plays non-stop in December?
	I don't get it.
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	All right, what have we not played?
	Oh wait, Don Jr.
	Don Jr's pretty good.
	Tucker just said that he's supporting Trump in the primary.
	He said that?
	Oh!
	He said he became an active Trump supporter when they raided Mar-a-Lago.
	Nice.
	Was that before or after he sent those shitty texts about him?
	That was after.
	All right, come in.
	Although some of those weren't right.
	Weren't what?
	Some of them weren't.
	When he was talking about destroying the network and all that stuff, he was talking about the Arizona call.
	No, I'm fed up with him.
	I can't wait till we don't have to talk about it.
	I know, but that's a different one.
	All right, come in with breaking news, Alex.
	Yes.
	And then Jeff, you can tee it up.
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	And then you can do it.
	That's part of our mission here to keep you abreast of the latest breaking news.
	I don't know if it's going to change anything politically, but you know, he's got a bit of a platform.
	A rather, rather large platform.
	Mr. G, what did you just hear on the grapevine?
	I don't know if it'll change people's minds, but it's gonna hurt some people's feelings in the DeSantis camp.
	Tucker Carlson just said on a podcast that he's voting for Trump, and he's been an active Trump supporter since Mar-a-Lago.
	If they convict him, he said he'll send them the max donations and will lead protests.
	All right.
	Do you believe that, Jeff?
	Could you see Tucker out on the street with a Trump flag leading the protest?
	With the bullhorn?
	I don't know.
	All right.
	Well, here you go.
	Tucker Carlson has endorsed President Trump for the primaries.
	What podcast?
	Do you know what podcast he said that on?
	Not his own.
	The Roseanne Parr podcast.
	Yes.
	All right.
	His son had something to say with my buddy Eric Bowling on Newsmax yesterday concerning the governor of Florida.
	Cut eight.
	They want someone who answers to them.
	They want someone that has no choice but to answer to them because their entire political existence is due to them and their money.
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	How high would you like me to jump, Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, Paul Ryan, the board, whatever it may be?
	It's not about the American people.
	And the faster the American people understand that the quote-unquote conservatives, even the conservatives out there from the billionaire class, don't actually have anything to do with their best interests, the faster and better we'll be off going forward as an America First movement.
	Fox News gave Ron DeSantis a lap dance for two years.
	Eric, do you think that's unfair?
	Do you think that's on the money?
	Oh, that's accurate.
	It's not unfair the slightest.
	We know, yeah, the Murdoch machine, Fox, Wall Street Journal, New York Post, they were all in on DeSantis for the longest time.
	And watching them, Just lose their minds and gradually shift to Nikki Haley is so satisfying.
	Yeah, it's so pathetic, it's so transparent that they want the Rhino candidate and when it's clear that he's failing they shift to the next Rhino candidate, Nikki Haley.
	What happened to Fox?
	So sad, so sad.
	All right, next up we're gonna have former deputy envoy for the Trump administration fighting anti-Semitism, Warrior Princess, who's gonna tell us how did we get here?
	That Americans on American streets are pro-Hamas terrorists?
	That's America First, one-on-one with Eli Kohanim.
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	If you wore a red hat in public in the wrong places, you could get abuse hurled at you.
	But where is the home of institutionalized racism in America today?
	Is it in fact on the right?
	Well, could it be on the left, and could it be on the campuses of our wokest universities?
	Sad to say, what you're about to see and hear is from the University of Pennsylvania.
	Let's play the cut.
	Do you guys remember the photo of the kids and men laughing and smiling as they sat on top of the Israeli military jeep captured by our freedom fighters?
	Yes!
	Do you remember that picture?
	Yes!
	How about the photos of the bulldozer breaking through the deadly border?
	Do you remember that picture?
	Yes!
	And the several other joyful and powerful images which came from the glorious October 7th?
	Yes!
	I want you to picture those in your mind.
	I want you all to remember how you felt when you saw those images and heard the news.
	I remember feeling so empowered and happy, so confident that victory was near and so tangible.
	I felt empowered.
	I felt happy as she saw the images of the massacre of the innocents on October 7th.
	How is that happening on America's streets, on America's campuses?
	And what do we do about it?
	Let's talk to a good friend of the show.
	She's a senior fellow with the Independent Women's Forum, and most importantly, former U.S.
	Deputy Special Envoy to Combat Anti-Semitism, Eli Cohen.
	Welcome to America First.
	Thank you, Seb.
	It's so good to be with you.
	It's good to have you back on the show.
	The circumstances are far from ideal.
	You are the perfect guest to discuss what we've witnessed here in the United States and across the globe, frankly, for the last five weeks.
	It looks to me that your kind of work ...is needed more than ever, and that we have a rising tide of anti-Semitism that sadly is no longer limited to the fringes, but whether it's on the streets of Manhattan, in the fancy homes of Hollywood, or on the campuses of some of the most elite educational institutions in America, it seems that it's worse than it's ever been.
	Am I exaggerating the situation, Ellie?
	Sebastian, you are not at all exaggerating.
	I wish that you were.
	What we have seen is a 400% increase in anti-Semitism since the October 7th attack on Israel.
	And so I can't even call this an increase.
	This is an onslaught.
	It's a tsunami.
	It's a war not only that Hamas waged against Israel, but an international war being waged against Jews everywhere, and unfortunately right here at home in the United States.
	When you see this recrudescence, this revitalization of antisemitism, what do you see as the driving forces?
	Is it just decades of gestation and now a germination of radical ideologies in the classrooms, in social media?
	Or is there something more organized?
	Are there people who are funding these kinds of activities?
	Because we see events across the globe from Sydney Opera House to half a million people on the streets of the UK.
	We see protests in Paris and elsewhere.
	Is there a driving force behind what we're witnessing?
	Sebastian, these are all really great, great questions.
	And so there are a lot of factors here.
	And I'm happy to spend just a few minutes trying to tease it all out with you.
	So first of all, to your question about, you know, how long has this been building up?
	The problems on our university campuses have been building for quite some time.
	There's been a tremendous, I mean, millions, if not billions of foreign funding dollars
	flowing to our universities from the Middle East, from countries like Qatar, but also
	from Saudi Arabia, which has more recently taken a turn for moderation.
	But historically, the Saudis were exporting Wahhabi extremists, radical Islamist ideology
	as well.
	And so we're in a situation where billions of dollars from Arab countries have been flowing
	to our universities, and also countries like China.
	And the universities are illegally not reporting this foreign funding to the U.S. government.
	So this is something that we uncovered in the Trump administration, and it's becoming
	more widely understood now with an expose that the journalist Barry Weiss just published
	two weeks ago.
	So this is one major factor, again, is foreign funding that comes with, you know, it comes
	with things attached to the funding.
	They're not just bequeathing money to our universities, there are demands back.
	And part of the consequence of this fars funding is this hatred towards Jews and Israel that's
	being bred on our campuses.
	So that's one factor here.
	Then you've got the international synchronization, Sebastian, which you were pointing to.
	You know, if we think about the turn of events and what happened was on October 7th, there was atrocities committed against Jews in Israel.
	And before the Israeli military had a chance to respond, before the Israelis had even identified
	their dead who had been brutally massacred, never mind even had a chance to bury their
	dead, we saw this, you know, coordinated rallies all over the world in support of Hamas.
	And so the fact that they were able to work so quickly and that these rallies have so
	much similarity in what you see in them, these pro-Hamas rallies, it's very clear that this
	is a coordinated global effort.
	And so that's where you get another state actor involved, which is the Islamic Republic of Iran.
	And Sebastian, you and I have spoken about the Iranian influence for quite some time.
	And so Iran, as an example, for years has been hosting something called the Al-Quds Day rallies around the world.
	Al-Quds in Arabic means Jerusalem, and it's the day of hate, basically.
	They've had these hate fests every year around the world.
	where you would see pro-terrorist mobs rallying in countries and cities around the world,
	in Paris, in Berlin, in London, and even in places like New York more recently.
	And so they have created a template where the Palestinian flags are ready to go,
	the pro-terrorist slogans are ready to go, the genocidal chant of from the river to the sea,
	which would call for the elimination of all Israel.
	They have this all ready to go.
	And so you see that this was all teed up and immediately after Hamas commits these atrocities,
	you have a global...
	coordinated, organized effort coming out on the attack on Jews.
	And Sebastian, I want to say one other thing on this.
	I think it's also a minimization and also perhaps not quite understanding what is going
	on to only focus on the Jew hatred aspect of what is happening here.
	What we're experiencing right now is also a war on Western civilization.
	Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
	And to your point about, you know, who's involved, merely the idea that the current administration sees Qatar as some kind of neutral party that will help negotiate some kind of peace in Gaza.
	Tell a little bit about Qatar's involvement in radical Islamic theology.
	The Qataris, the ruling family there, have for years been espousing And perhaps most importantly, Qatar hosts Hamas.
	Ismail Haniyeh, the Hamas leader, lives in the Four Seasons in luxury on the Qatari bill, you know, off the Qatari checkbook.
	There's photos of him on social media flying private jets.
	So this is the country that is acting as, you know, as the middleman here.
	And Sebastian, it is, you know, it's shameful that we have the Qataris playing this role, because on the one hand, you know, it seems like they've helped create the problem, and on the other hand, they're supposedly helping to solve the problem.
	And so that's Qatar.
	And again, more than just the role we're seeing from the Qataris right now in the hostage
	release is also Qatar's longtime role, again, in spending billions of dollars in the United
	States at our universities and also our think tanks.
	If you look at the think tanks in Washington, D.C., it's incredible how many of them are on Qatar's payroll.
	And so you will find that they're silent in moments like this because that's who's funding them.
	Yeah, funny how they get quiet all very, very suddenly.
	We talk to the former Deputy Special Envoy to Combat Anti-Semitism, Eli Kohanim, Independent Women's Forum, IWF.org, and follow her at Eli Kohanim, that's C-O-H-A-N-I-M.
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	At the end of last week, we had lots of talk about temporary ceasefires, hostage negotiations, the exchange of... The thing that blows my mind, this idea, Eli, that they're going to exchange 150 incarcerated terrorists for 50 hostages, and I guess the other 150 hostages can just be kept forever.
	Can you talk to us, as somebody who's fought the extremists, who was right there fighting anti-Semitism for the Trump administration, How we're not dealing with people who act in good faith.
	If you're a jihadi, if you're part of Hamas, whose founding charter talks of being part of the Muslim Brotherhood and the need to destroy Israel, how at the end of the day these aren't people you can trust and negotiate with.
	Sebastian, exactly right.
	And let's remind everybody what happened on October 7th.
	Not only did Hamas invade the southern communities of Israel and kill 1,200 Israelis, Jews and other nationals.
	But Israel has shared evidence that 80 percent of those massacred were first tortured.
	We're talking about women raped so brutally that their bones were broken.
	We're talking about people who were burned alive, children in front of parents, parents
	in front of children.
	I mean, the atrocities are just so horrific, Sebastian, that it's been traumatic, to say the least, for people who have seen the 45-minute video footage compilation.
	that Israeli authorities put together from Hamas's own GoPro videos that they took.
	These satanic people who actually videotaped themselves committing these horrific acts
	that I don't think any of us can wrap our brains around.
	There's no other word for it besides satanic cruelty, savagery, barbaric actions that these
	people took.
	And so these are the same people that now Israel is being asked to negotiate a hostage release.
	And so, Sebastian, your cynicism, your concern about, you know, how does this end?
	Any sort of a ceasefire talk, you know, a hostage deal.
	I think your concern is exactly spot on, because these are the savages that committed these atrocities against Israel in the first place.
	They kidnapped babies, toddlers, children, women.
	Elderly, Holocaust survivors, the list goes on, foreign workers.
	And so the notion that these are trusted individuals, that you could have a negotiation, that you could have some sort of a deal and they're going to hold up their end of the deal, it's very hard to believe.
	And Sebastian, the other thing I want to mention right now, Is the far left call for a ceasefire from almost the beginning of this.
	It's, you know, they call it a ceasefire, but basically Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, AOC and the squad, what they're really demanding here is that Israel just die, you know, that Hamas commit atrocities and Israel just allow their citizens to just, you know, get killed, you know, be massacred and no reaction.
	Yeah, can you explain, maybe some random, you know, woke snowflake student is driving a rental car and they're listening to this radio channel by accident.
	Can you explain to people who may have heard this phrase, may have chanted it, why from the river to the sea is actually a genocidal phrase, Ali?
	With pleasure.
	So from the river to the sea, well, what river and what sea are we talking about?
	So it's the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea.
	So the chance is from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, right?
	And so if you say to yourself, so what river to what sea?
	You're talking about the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea.
	And so what lies between these two bodies of water is all of Israel.
	Right?
	So these people who are chanting from the river to the sea are essentially chanting that all of Israel should be gone.
	And so clearly this is a genocidal chant, because if all of Israel is gone, then what happens to the 7 million Jews who live in Israel?
	And there's no room, I think, in this genocidal chant for any Jewish existence in the Middle East.
	And, Sebastian, that also, the notion of not having any room for Israel in the Middle East, it ties back again to the radical Islamist ideology espoused by countries like the Islamic Republic and all of their terror proxies.
	And really espoused even by people like Erdogan in Turkey, although he may not be as loud about it.
	And essentially, their issue is that they don't want a Jewish state to exist in the Middle East.
	They want a Middle East that is 100% through and through Islamic.
	No Christian presence, no Jewish presence.
	And if there are Christians and Jews, we should be dhimmis.
	We should be second-class citizens according to Sharia law.
	Right, bingo.
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	I'm going to ask her to comment on the Biden administration foreign policy, especially with regards to Iran and what they've done for the last three years.
	But first, your reaction, Ellie, to Massive.
	Unheard of.
	You mentioned it in the beginning.
	Explosions of anti-Semitic attacks in America.
	Less than 3% of the population of America are Jewish.
	More than 60% of the hate crimes are against Jews.
	So what happens after October the 7th, the biggest massacre of Jews since the Shoah, since the Holocaust, from the podium at the White House, The diversity hire, Karine Jean-Pierre states, we are going to have a new strategy, a national strategy to counter Islamophobia.
	Your reaction, Ellie?
	It's shocking.
	It's horrifying.
	Jews in America right now, Sebastian, are having these kinds of conversations.
	They're wondering if there was a golden age in America where Jews were safe and where we're no longer safe.
	Jewish families are sitting around the kitchen table and wondering if they can continue planning on living in the United States because history has taught Jews that countries will turn against them.
	You know, Jews in Germany before the Holocaust were fully assimilated into Germany.
	They were in the highest positions in the professions,
	in government, in academia.
	And that society turned against them.
	Jews in America right now are buying guns at historic rates.
	Synagogues right now are offering Jewish communities self-defense classes.
	And the reason why this is, again, is because there has been this 400% spike
	in anti-Semitic incidents and attacks against Jews in America since October 7th.
	So this is not just a scary feeling that Jews are having.
	These are based on facts.
	And in Los Angeles, about a week and a half ago, there was an elderly Jewish gentleman who was at a pro-Israel rally, and across from them was a pro-Hamas rally.
	And one of the people from this pro-Hamas rally gets into an altercation with the pro-Israel man, with Paul Kessler, takes a megaphone, slams him in the face.
	Paul Kessler winds up falling on the sidewalk and dying.
	LAPD finally made an arrest.
	They still haven't called this a hate crime.
	So this is the state of affairs in the United States right now.
	The fact that the response to that is for Corine Jean-Pierre and Susan Sarandon to be talking about Islamophobia and also VP Kamala Harris.
	Let's not forget her.
	To, at this moment, when Jews are literally under attack, when you have Jewish college students being physically assaulted, when, again, a Jewish man in Los Angeles was murdered, at that moment, to turn around and to talk about Islamophobia instead of just focusing on what's actually taking place, which is, again, Jews are under attack right now, it's unconscionable, Sebastian.
	There's just nothing else to say.
	It's unconscionable.
	It's un-American.
	Makes you, um, raise the question, makes you wonder if they really don't want American Jews to be safe.
	We're talking to the former Deputy Special Envoy to Combat Anti-Semitism, Eli Kohanim.
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	White, not Jews! White, not Jews! White, not Jews! White, not Jews! White, not Jews!
	Wake the Jews!
	That's not Gaza.
	That's not the West Bank.
	That isn't the streets of Islamabad.
	That's in one of the most civilized modern nations in the world.
	That's right outside the Sydney Opera House.
	I've been there.
	Australia's a wonderful country.
	But there you have immigrants and people who were born there screaming, gas the Jews.
	After October the 7th.
	Gas the Jews.
	What's the right response?
	What can be done?
	Let's ask Ellie.
	Ellie, a lot of people, not a lot of people, a handful of brave people, people like Douglas Murray have said that behaviour like that Cannot be permitted in decent society.
	Yes, we have freedom of speech in America, but if you are calling for the murder of an ethnic group, for example, and you are an immigrant, you should be stripped of your status and you should be deported from the country.
	You're the expert.
	You fought anti-Semitism as a government officer of the Trump administration.
	What is the right response?
	What tools, what options do we have to stop this rising hatred that, as you mentioned, is costing the lives of American citizens?
	Sebastian, we have to look at immigration policies and understand the repercussions When migrants are allowed in from other countries by the millions, which is what we've seen from Middle East, North Africa, this migration from Middle East, North Africa to the European continent, to Australia, and now here to the United States as well, we have to understand that people come with biases.
	With an education that they had from their home countries.
	And unfortunately, for a vast majority of people coming from the Middle East, North Africa, they have been indoctrinated since childhood to hate the Jews, but also to hate Western civilization, to hate our Western values.
	And, you know, I understand one might ask, you know, you might ask yourself, why are these people who hate our very values?
	Why are the people who hate our very values, why are they coming to our countries?
	You know, that's a whole other question.
	I can't answer that.
	But what I can say is that for policymakers who are making these decisions about, again, about how much migration we allow, how many immigrants we allow into our countries, where are they coming from?
	Is there a vetting process?
	These are really important questions to understand.
	Again, that if you allow in people who are documented to hate Jews, to have been indoctrinated to hate Jews and to hate Israel, then they're going to import with themselves, you know, they're coming into these countries with these ideologies of hatred.
	And so we cannot be surprised when we see these hate fests taking place on the streets
	of European countries, of Australia, and here in the United States as well.
	We cannot be surprised by this.
	So now the question behooves us, what do you do when people show support for terrorism?
	And so certainly we need to be thinking about deporting people who are supporting terrorism.
	It is illegal against American law to offer any support to foreign terrorist organizations,
	Hamas being one of them.
	Yeah, I was a green card holder for more than a decade after I married my wife and before
	I moved here and was naturalized.
	And I found it rather interesting that in the 2000 aughts, I'd be traveling across the
	Atlantic.
	As a foreign national, and I'd have to fill in an immigration card.
	And one of the questions on the US immigration card was, are you or have you ever been a member of the National Socialist Workers' Party of Germany?
	As if I was, you know, a hundred-year-old guard at Treblinka.
	They're asking us whether you are a member of the Nazi Party.
	Well, if that level of ideological screening is permitted, 50 or 60 years after World War II, why aren't we doing that kind of ideological screening for people who believe in global jihadism or the caliphate?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	We should be doing that.
	But Sebastian, I also want to say, and you know this better than anyone, the people who are coming, again, from countries in the Middle East, North Africa, almost impossible to vet.
	And they're never going to be honest about their ideologies.
	So, you know, I'm very concerned for Europe.
	I am very concerned.
	When I see 100,000 pro-jihadis marching in London, I am concerned for the future of London.
	When I see, again, thousands upon thousands of pro-jihadis marching in Paris, marching in Italy, and marching here in the United States, I worry about us because I know that these are people who, again, they hate the West, they hate our values, and often what they do is they come into Western countries, They use our freedoms against us.
	So they use, in the United States, they will use free speech, they will use free assembly,
	and it will all be in the effort to undermine the United States and our values in the West.
	And so it's, you know, this is a big wake-up call, Sebastian.
	It's just time for the United States, for, you know, for the Democrats even.
	Everyone needs to understand what we're facing here.
	This is a war against Western civilization.
	And what October 7th has done, it has revealed to us who in our society are the jihadis.
	Who are the people who hate Western values?
	Who are the people who will take gay men and women and throw them off the rooftops?
	Who are the people who will take women and try to force women to wear hijabs by, you know, by threat of death?
	Who are these people?
	They are they are beginning to reveal themselves to us.
	Yeah, and it's not against Western civilization.
	Let's be specific.
	This is a war.
	This is a brutal barbarian's war against Judeo-Christian civilization.
	We're talking to Eli Cohen, former Deputy Special Envoy to Combat Anti-Semitism.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	so last big question for you Ellie and it's it's a request I have for you to
	the Jews of America most of whom are secular and really don't have a warm
	place in their heart for Israel.
	The Orthodox community understood that President Trump was the most philo-semitic president since the re-establishment of Israel in 1948.
	But this is a tough time for all Jews, people who are afraid.
	You said the skyrocketing figures for those who are finally exercising their Second Amendment rights and purchasing firearms for the first time because of what they witnessed in Israel.
	In this era of heightened hatred, and avowed open antisemitism on the streets of America and the world.
	What is your advice to those of the Jewish faith or Jewish heritage in America who are waking up to their identity and who might be afraid?
	I think American Jews need to understand that the world that perhaps their parents and grandparents lived in Where the Democrat Party might have been a place that made sense for American Jews to support and to be a part of.
	That party just doesn't exist any longer.
	And so, you know, American Jews have to kind of understand that the Democrat Party, that centrist old world Democrat Party, Just doesn't exist any longer.
	The Democrat Party has now been hijacked by their far left.
	And their far left are screaming, you know, they're screaming for genocide right now.
	They're screaming, you know, from the river to the sea.
	And so, you know, I very much hope that American Jewry understands that what we're witnessing right now is what's called the Red-Green Alliance.
	It's the alliance of the left with radical Islamists.
	The left onto themselves are small and not that powerful.
	The radical Islamists left onto themselves are also small and not that powerful.
	When these two groups align with each other, they become much louder, much more powerful and much bigger.
	And so this is what we have right now, is this leftist Islamist alliance, which is truly threatening.
	The security and well-being of American Jewry and Jews worldwide.
	So it really behooves American Jewry to understand that this is where we're at right now in 2023.
	I hope that they'll understand that there's just far more support for Jewish communities and for the security of Israel among the Republican Party, among conservatives, and I hope that they'll start, you know, marching with their feet and voting like Likewise, understanding that this is the reality.
	The radicals are in the minority, but they are louder.
	Now it's time for your voice to be heard.
	I am so buoyed, I'm so delighted and grateful that the most popular item on the America First website right now, it really shocked me, is this t-shirt.
	It's the photograph of the president, my former boss, at the Temple Wall, the only serving president to go there, with a very simple phrase in English and Hebrew, our fight.
	We've put it on a mug so you can tell the world who you are, And that you stand with those who are part of our Judeo-Christian civilization.
	Go to sebgorkastore.com.
	That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A-STORE.COM.
	You've been listening to America First one-on-one, wherever you are, whatever you're doing.
	Keep your head on a swivel.
	Watch your six.
	Hold the line.
	Never give up.
	Never give in.

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