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Nov. 14, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka
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Sebastian Gorka LIVE: Massive pro-Israel solidarity march in Washington D.C.
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Greetings, blessings, dear friends.
It's a beautiful sight to see as I sit here in Tampa, Florida, in the studios of AM 930, AM 860, and FM 93.7, to see on the screens, on the cable news, the huge crowds in Washington, D.C., standing out for what?
For Judeo-Christian civilization, finally, after five weeks After the slaughter of the innocents in Israel, it's about time.
What else can we do about it?
Let's connect, through the wonders of technology, to a man who, as a cradle Catholic, I call my rabbi.
The one, the only, the irrepressible Dennis Prager.
Dennis, welcome.
I love that.
Why don't you say you're a cradle Catholic who calls me your... My irrepressible rabbi.
The one, the only, Dennis Prager.
Yeah, that was really sweet.
Will you explain, before we get to the meat of what we want to discuss here, where you are right now and where I am.
Will you explain to our listeners?
Yeah, we're about 40 feet from one another.
Yes, that's correct.
Because we're both doing this event in Tampa, and people should go to TheAnswerTampa.com or in this area and see us, along with Mike Gallagher.
It should be a terrific night.
Oh, do they have to let Mike in?
I thought it was just going to be the two of us.
Well, I didn't know you were going to say that publicly.
Oops, sorry.
Are we on air?
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Tonight we're going to be with that chap Gallagher and also Dennis.
But first things first, let's talk about what you've been discussing.
I've been listening in to you down the corridor this day as I was preparing for this show.
I bought a piece of property, or my wife rather did, about three years ago from an amazing guy, a former military intelligence officer in the American army who's a Christian, which kind of confused me because as we took possession of this lovely piece of property, I saw this little Metal things, little silver decorative item nailed to the door of the house.
And I thought, but hang on, Victor, you're Christian.
He says, oh yes, but this is a Judeo-Christian civilization.
And that was a mezuzah.
Would you explain what that thing was and why you've written an article about them?
In Deuteronomy, so we're talking about at least 3,000 years ago, God-slash-Moses instructs, not that Moses is God, but you can either attribute it to God or Moses or both.
We are instructed, the we being those who follow the Torah, which includes a fair number of Christians in many ways, but certainly Jews who are observant, that you are supposed to put verses of Deuteronomy, the fifth book of the Torah, in a scroll and place the scroll in a little box on the doorpost.
Mezuzah literally means doorpost, but it's come to mean the little box that's on the doorpost.
So that you will know that God's presence is there when you walk in and when you walk out of your home.
And inside is the verse, Love God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your might.
One of the most powerful verses for Christians as well as for Jews.
And it begins with, Hero Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord alone, or the Lord is one, depending on how one translates it.
So, this has been true and defined a Jewish home for 3,000 years, and I have developed the idea that given For the first time in my life, I think the first time in American history, Jews are afraid in America.
And that's a very sad thing for me to say as a Jew and as an American.
But it is unfortunately not invalid.
I mean, just yesterday I had an author on who's a Jew in New York, and he said his kids go to a Jewish day school where policemen escort the kids into the class.
This is New York City.
I'm hearing this incessantly in the last four weeks, that this is the wake-up call, this is when Rip Van Winkle, this is when the secular Jews wake up and they realize where the hatred of the Jewish people truly resides institutionally in America.
I don't know.
I don't know if the slaughter of the innocents on October 7th is going to make a difference.
Am I being too hard-bitten, too cynical, Dennis?
I actually wrote about this in my column a couple of weeks ago, that many Jews are feeling betrayed by the left.
And I just listed all of the, not all, many of the leftist positions and said, wait a minute, you didn't feel betrayed when they said this or this or this or this?
Now you finally feel betrayed?
Good!
I hope that's true.
But I ended it by saying I wouldn't bet on it.
It may affect some.
Look, my disappointment in many of my fellow American Jews is deep, but it doesn't matter.
That's what it is.
I mean, as I say to Christians, I say to Protestants and Catholics, I have a motto.
I don't care what religion you're in as long as you're not embarrassed by it.
I mean, when we think of many of, you know, you're a Catholic, I don't want to put any
words in your mouth, but I have to believe you at least struggle with many of the positions
of your Pope.
So the existence of people who are coreligionists, who are disappointments, is just something
every one of us has to grapple with.
But I will say, Jews who believe the Torah is from God tend to be conservative.
So that is a dividing line within Jewish life.
Talk to us about what you are recommending.
My appeal is that everybody do what they did in Billings, Montana in 1993 when an anti-Semite threw a brick through a window of a Jewish doctor who lived in Billings who had a menorah there for Hanukkah.
They all put up Hanukkah menorahs.
It's a very powerful story.
Or the great story of the American army, the highest ranking man in the POW camp of the Nazis.
The Nazi commander of the POW camp said, tomorrow all your Jewish soldiers have to step forward.
And every single soldier stepped forward.
And with a gun to his head, he said to the Nazi commander of the camp, we're all Jews.
Nobody's asking anybody to risk their life, but putting up a mezuzah on your doorpost is about as beautiful an act as you can do today, and it will redeem the country.
Yes, of course, it's wonderful for Jews, but it's just as wonderful for America.
But is it enough?
Do we need not something more powerful that we wear with us?
I saw that incredible imagery.
We used it on my Newsmax show of the ambassador to the UN from Israel pinning a yellow star on his suit and getting all of his staff to do the same thing.
Is there something not more than something static on our buildings or will that be the next phase or your next article?
Well, I tend to be realistic in my fight for what I believe is good.
I think that asking people to wear the symbol of Nazi anti-Semitism on their clothing is a bit much right now, and so I I think a lot of people would take it as somewhat of an overkill response.
I think the transformation, if enough millions did the mezuzah, Or for that matter, yesterday, I won't even say which airline.
We only have a minute left.
I boarded my plane, the woman at the gate working for the airline knew who I was and she lifted her scarf of the airline and she showed me a pin with an American and Israeli flag.
There are many, many ways to do this.
Let's start with this one.
Let's start with that blessing for the house, with that key phrase from the Old Testament, talking of which, this is the man who's written the exegetical analysis, the rational Bible.
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Alex, there we go.
Awesome.
Jeff, have you got your headset on?
He does.
Did the rabbi say if he was coming back to California?
He said he was going to be in London.
In London, okay.
I don't know if it was a layover or what, but he said my flight doesn't land until 8.10 in London.
Okay.
Will you get... How's tomorrow looking?
Well, we just have that first hour that's open.
Right.
Will you get Eli Kohanim, you remember, the, um, ambassador for counter, uh, anti-Semitism?
Yeah.
Okay.
Who is Penny Nance?
Did you see that text?
I have no idea.
Sounds familiar.
Um... I mean, we're fools, though, anyway, right?
Well, it'd have to be, uh, uh, an e-block, right?
Yeah.
Um...
Um...
One, two, three, four, five, six...
Greetings!
Two minutes.
What's Vigory's name?
You know who that is, Eric?
I'm sorry?
Vigoree, the conservative who invented direct marketing.
Richard Vigoree, I think.
Oh, okay.
I'm not familiar with that name, actually.
And Julie's on the line.
Hey, Julie!
Hello, how are you?
Good, good, good.
We have a delay.
Delay.
How bad is the delay, guys?
Not really.
It's a couple seconds, I think.
Okay, good.
All right, so let's talk about the... Greg Yetman?
The give, send, go you sent me.
Okay.
What else is super important?
What have you been tweeting about?
So we'll talk about Greg Yetman.
What else?
Okay.
Um, also Jack Smith's, uh, denial, rejection, opposition to cameras in the courtroom.
Oh, cameras.
Yep.
Okay.
He filed another motion opposing that this week.
Okay.
Um, let's see.
I don't know if you want to talk about the classified documents trial that's up in the air.
Okay.
What was the latest there?
There was some issue with the classified documents thing.
What was the latest?
Oh, what was it?
It was Comer, right?
It was Comer who was subpoenaing the White House counsel for Biden.
Right, but this is the classified documents trial.
Trump's trial in Florida.
Okay.
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Sadly, of political prisoners in America, she is Julie Kelly.
Julie, it's been too long.
Welcome back to America First.
Hi, Seb.
Thanks so much for having me on.
I thought I was on your naughty list or something.
I haven't heard from Jeff for a while, so... Naughty list?
There's no way you could be on my naughty list, except if you didn't want to come on the show, then you'd be on my naughty list.
No, it's been a crazy few weeks.
I've been traveling and then we're in Florida today.
Yesterday I've got to go to the UK on Thursday.
Things are crazy, but you have been doing the work of the Lord, focusing on those who are being persecuted for their political beliefs.
Let's start with this Individual Greg Yetman, who is a, I think it was a sergeant in the army.
I've posted his Give Send Go on my Twitter page.
You should go right now.
Give Send Go slash G-B-B-R-N.
Why are you asking people to support Gregory Yetman, Julie?
Because he is yet going to be another political prisoner of the Biden regime of this Department of Justice.
In fact, after he finally turned himself in Friday, he was remanded to custody and denied release by a judge in Washington, D.C.
So he will be languishing now in the D.C.
Gulag awaiting trial on charges for allegedly assaulting police officers on January 6th.
They claim that he sprayed pepper spray towards a line of police officers for about 12 seconds that day.
I am working on video that contradicts what the Department of Justice claims in its affidavit.
To your point though, Seb, Greg Yetman has no criminal record.
He is a combat veteran.
I spoke with his brother last week who told me all about this armed FBI raid.
He's a combat veteran with tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He was a guard at Guantanamo Bay.
He was a military police officer and in the National Guard for the past 12 years.
So, and the government and the country that he has spent his adult life defending turned on him because he had the gall to go to Washington on January 6th, support Donald Trump and protest the election of Joe Biden.
For the past almost three years, they have been investigating him.
He has been cooperating fully with the FBI.
Nonetheless, the FBI, the modern day Gestapo, staked out his house for three months, his brother told me.
And at 7 a.m.
last Wednesday, as Greg Yatman walked outside to go into his truck to go to work, was surrounded immediately by more than a dozen armed FBI agents, SWAT vehicles, the Joint Terrorism Task Force, which is involved in every January 6th arrest.
Greg Yatman was terrified and dropped his belongings and ran into the woods.
That prompted an expansive manhunt using helicopters, drones, And police dogs to try to hunt him down.
They still didn't find him.
And after two nights in the woods, he turned himself in to law enforcement on Friday, treated like a domestic terrorist for minor involvement in the Capitol protest, now more than three years ago.
Now you've quoted his brother, Julie, but what have you managed to identify?
How large an operation was this investigation and then this assault on Sergeant Yetman?
What are we talking about?
In scale of law enforcement activity, this was rather gargantuan, and it's for maybe, maybe, but you say you have contradictory evidence, maybe Spraying pepper spray almost three years ago.
Am I correct in that summary?
You absolutely are.
And they finally, Department of Justice, last night, filed his affidavit, his charging documents, outlining what this alleged domestic terrorist did, which was, as you said, and I noted, spraying pepper spray towards a line of police officers, which there was a scrum of police and protesters.
This was around 2.30 on the west side of the building on January 6th.
So not only did they scout him out, investigate him, he first spoke with the FBI in early 2021.
He spoke with them again over the summer, thought he was helping, thought he was off the hook, but no.
Seb, as you know, and I think this is part of what House Republicans are investigating, is the regime now trying to purge The military and purge some of our institutions of Trump supporters and sending a message that if you're law enforcement, if you're military, you are involved in January 6th or you are, say, someone like Steve Friend, an FBI agent who doesn't want to be involved in these armed FBI raids for nonviolent offenders, that you are now considered a domestic terrorist.
So this is part of Not just creating the optics, traumatizing people's neighborhoods, but also juicing the numbers to bolster what Joe Biden calls MAGA terrorism and what Christopher Wray says is the greatest threat, national security threat, to the country.
Yeah, not jihadis who are coming across the border, not the 150 terrorists identified in just the last three months, no.
People who may or may not have sprayed pepper spray three years ago.
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I stand here in my cruelly given white privilege to say that you don't have to be Palestinian to stand with the Palestinian people.
Okay, twelve.
Twelve.
From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!
Which river?
That's a bit semantic.
Which river?
Eleven.
Eleven.
Yeah.
I know folks are saying, oh, they're just cleaning up this place because all those fancy leaders are coming to town.
That's true.
Does President Biden agree it's more important to impress the leader of China than the American people that live in San Francisco?
Give me a check nine.
I'll use that with Julie.
We are apparently already guilty of fraud, having never even heard from us at that point before ever hearing from these witnesses. 10.
I'll tell you what I think.
That very few of us and very few in the media really pay enough attention to the weight that this president carries each and every day.
day.
You mentioned...
Um...
Six and seven.
This is mass murder by Hamas of Palestinian babies deliberately in order to get the world
to turn against Israel.
And unfortunately, President Biden is playing into their hands by telling Israel not one.
It would certainly be nice to have the president or the vice president or both at this rally.
They need to be here.
He needs to show his support.
Two minutes, 10 seconds.
Didn't you also want to hear Cut 7?
Oh yeah, please, go ahead.
These people aren't just protesting outside and exercising their right to free speech, which I fully support as an American.
It's that they're going, you know, they went to the personal offices of a program that runs Israel internships on MIT's campus, and they went to the offices of the people who work for this program, and they tried to enter.
They were going from door to door trying to unlock the doors, and the people who work in this office had no idea.
Can you try and find that student?
Yeah, for here and Newsmax.
For tomorrow.
It'll be out of date by Newsmax.
90 seconds.
Did you want to, you said, come in with Don Jr.
or tee it up?
Come in with it, and then I'll do my pillow.
Come in with nine, then pillow.
Oh, and cut eight, please.
Eight.
And at the time, Uh, period, where they were going to start to discuss what was, uh, Dan Scamino's role.
At the time, I believe his title was social media director for the White House.
It became deputy chief of staff, um, at the time that the conversation in question took place.
Okay.
And when was that?
The conversation was around December 19th of 2020 at the White House Christmas party.
And I, uh, emphasized to him, I thought that the, um, the, the claims and the ability to challenge, The election results was essentially over because he said to me in a kind of excited tone, well, we don't care and we're not going to leave.
And I said, what do you mean?
And he said, well, the boss, meaning President Trump, and everyone understood the boss.
That's what we all called him.
He said, the boss is not going to leave under any circumstances.
We are just going to stay in power.
And I said to him, well, it doesn't quite work that way, you realize?
And he said, we don't care.
Alright, coming in with 9.
That's what she raised 200 grand for. Yeah. 15 seconds.
Yeah.
Mhm.
We are apparently already guilty of fraud.
having never even heard from us at that point before ever hearing from these witnesses.
So that's why, you know, it's a little bit ridiculous, right?
You can't even make your case before, oh wait, this is it.
Well, the document that you're relying on this, you're not, I'm not supposed to rely on a big five accounting firm, like one of the biggest accounting firms in the world.
I can pay them millions of dollars.
I rely on them to do accounting, but I'm supposed to know more than them.
By this logic, insurance companies are going to start suing patients In court again today.
their doctors. Right? You understand? Like, am I supposed to know more? Oh, Don Jr. doesn't
know anything about it. I'm not an accountant. I'm a business guy. I went through each and
every one of our deals. Had they asked me those questions, I could have very easily
answered them. But I can't answer questions about a document that literally everyone acknowledges
I had nothing to do with. I rely on the accountants to do that.
In court again today, when will it ever stop? Not until they stop him or his father from
becoming president again, or he becomes president.
It's really up to us, dear friends.
We need to make sure that the politicization of the intelligence community, federal law enforcement, local jurisdictions like New York and Atlanta stops because it is utterly un-American.
We're going to ask what it all means.
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We are back with the author of the book, January 6, Get It Today, How Democrats Use the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right.
Judy Kelly, it's not just a war of political terror.
It is basically how they wish to steal the next election, is it not?
Talk to us about the latest developments with the classified documents trial and also Jack Smith's latest attempt to basically have a kangaroo court against President Trump.
So, of course, for the first time in American history, you have the sitting administration of a president His Department of Justice indicting not once but twice his predecessor and potential presumptive rival in the 2024 election.
So you've got Joe Biden's handpicked attorney general, Merrick Garland, and his handpicked special counsel, Jack Smith, who handed down two criminal indictments over the summer.
One in June related to the alleged withholding of classified documents, national defense information at Mar-a-Lago.
And then several weeks later, on August 1st, Jack Smith indicted Donald Trump in the District of Columbia on four counts related to January 6th and allegedly attempts to overturn the election.
So a lot is going on in both of those cases.
The trial in Washington, Judge Tanya Chutkin, an Obama appointee, fast-tracked that schedule at the request of Jack Smith, typically said it's over a year before the time a January 6th defendant is arrested and the judge
sets a trial date. In this case, Tanya Chutkin has allowed seven months between indictment
and trial, which is March 4th, indictment and trial in the unprecedented history-making
case of a criminal indictment against a former president, presumptive nominee. That
starts March 4th.
The classified documents case, even though that indictment was handed down first,
that has been set for May 20th. So obviously Department of Justice wants the quick hit,
the quick conviction in Washington, D.C.
in March and then sort of delayed the classified documents case.
I've always viewed classified documents as the weakest of the two.
First, because there's no evidence and they're trying to cover up the evidence.
They're actually trying to prevent Donald Trump and his lawyers from seeing some of these files they claim are classified.
Records created during his own presidency.
They're trying to withhold... Sir, hang on.
People missed this in the coverage in the last few days.
This is a really crucial point.
That the government is trying to prevent the president's attorneys from seeing the documents that they are trying him over.
Did I hear that correctly?
Because I think most people missed that.
You're absolutely correct.
And that is under what's called SIPA, which is the Classified Information Procedures Act.
And that is individuals who are arrested holding or keeping or stealing classified material from the government Stopping them from seeing that material again.
Now, of course, we're talking about terrorists.
You're talking about spies.
You're talking about double agents.
Not the person for whom the classification system was created, which is the commander-in-chief.
All right, I'm going to get on your naughty list right now, because we're out of time.
Will you come back for a longer discussion, Julie?
Absolutely.
Love to.
Thanks.
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And at the time period that we're going to start to discuss, what was Dan Scobino's role?
At the time, I believe his title was social media director for the White House.
It became deputy chief of staff at the time that the conversation in question took place.
Okay.
And when was that?
The conversation was around December 19th of 2020 at the White House Christmas party.
And I emphasized to him, I thought that the The claims and the ability to challenge the election results was essentially over because he said to me in a kind of excited tone, well, we don't care and we're not going to leave.
And I said, what do you mean?
And he said, well, the boss, meaning President Trump, and everyone understood the boss.
That's what we all called him.
He said, the boss is not going to leave under any circumstances.
We are just going to stay in power.
And I said to him, well, it doesn't quite work that way, you realize?
And he said, we don't care.
I'm sad to report that somebody I've had on my show before, and in fact I think she may still be a colleague with her podcast here on America First, she's Jenna Ellis, and that was part of her video deposition for the case she pled guilty in.
Which is weird, she was saying that President Trump's deputy was saying he's going to stay in power no matter what because Because he didn't.
And Jeff, are you there?
What did she raise money for recently?
It was a lot of money, right?
Yeah, she raised over a couple hundred grand to fight the witch hunt against her in Georgia.
How much did she raise?
I think it was like $214,000.
It was a little bit over $200,000.
$214,000.
Is she going to give that back because she pled guilty, right?
So she kind of copped a plea.
No, but she claims that it cost her more than that to plead guilty with the legal fees.
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I can't believe they're actually using that phrase.
Trying to spin it in a positive sense.
If you're looking to buy a home, it's not good.
And if you're negotiating a new mortgage, likewise.
What does it mean for the future?
Or for those of us looking for some decent, safe way to invest?
Let's talk to the man who knows.
He's our good friend from key city capital, Stephen Patterson.
Welcome back to America First.
Good to see you, Dr. G. All right, so latest headline, this is from the Wall Street Journal.
U.S.
home prices rose to records in August.
I'm just glad that I negotiated my mortgage a few years ago at like 3.8 or something.
What is going on in the market?
Tell us how things are just, the reality, just the brute, no politics, just the brute reality of the numbers.
No, no, I think you nailed it with the intro.
Bidenomics is what's happening out there.
You know, the National Home Price Index is up 2.6% year over year.
And the bottom line is there's no inventory because people won't sell their houses because they don't want to go into an 8% mortgage.
That's what the Fed has given us, and that's what out-of-control government spending has given us.
So what does that mean for the market?
If people like me don't want to move, are very happy with a sub 4% mortgage, what does it mean for people who want to get on the ladder?
Who want to own a home, Stephen?
Yeah, no, it's priced them right out.
And you know, the other problem is, is now credit cards have gone out of control.
For the first time in the history of our country, we're now above $1 trillion of credit card debt, and the average credit card interest rate now is at 24.75%.
Good luck to those individuals qualifying for a home purchase.
Wow, hang on, hang on, I just gotta repeat that.
So, we're not talking about business debt, we're not talking about loans, we're not talking about, you know, treasury bills.
Credit card debt for private citizens is over a trillion dollars, Stephen.
It's over a trillion dollars while interest rates have now surpassed 8% on a 30-year mortgage.
So what has happened is this incredible snowball of debt is now on the average American with an inability to buy a home in a market where prices are rising at the same time interest rates are rising.
Wow.
Alright, so talk to us, in these conditions, these insane biodynamics conditions, what are you at Key City Capital, what are you, Stephen, advising, what are you telling your clients and prospective clients?
Absolutely.
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For Prager, um... A beautiful way to stand with Israel.
Nice.
Alright.
Sorry?
I said nice.
Okay.
Oh, I need to find that tweet of Alice's where she said never surrender.
Where is that?
She did?
Yeah.
Was that recently?
I wish I had my old phone with all the texts that she had sent during that period.
When she was coming on like twice a week and even afterwards.
What?
You didn't save all your, um... In screenshot of the text.
Text.
Oh, here it is!
Here it is!
Oh, I'm gonna send this to you.
Oh, this is so good.
This is so good.
Okay.
Did you see Sydney Powell's one?
No.
It's like two minutes long.
It's edited about twelve different times.
She says nothing bad in it.
Like, it's nothing.
You mean her deposition?
Yeah, it's nothing.
Just about how they were trying to get a security clearance.
Will you send it to me, if you find it?
Yeah.
You want to use this for this segment, Seb?
Yeah.
Okay, let me get on it.
Getting it now.
Jeff, I'm going to ask you something at the top.
Thank you.
Okay.
Okay.
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We played you that little clip, didn't we, of Jenna Ellis' deposition.
So, um...
It's a bit weird because somebody sent me some of her tweets back from 2020.
Eric, can you put this up on the screen?
President Trump should never concede the election.
Jeff, wasn't that what...
Jenna was saying about Dan Scavino.
How come she didn't mention this tweet?
I'm a bit confused.
What's even more important about that, that tweet is December 28th, which means it's after Christmas, and she was talking about this was at the Christmas party.
Yeah.
And he was telling them how it doesn't work that way.
Yeah.
It's a weird... I think she might have left something out of her testimony, don't you think?
I think she did.
I think she did.
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We call him Fredo, he doesn't like it, but it's very, very apt.
Do you remember when he was doing the big cotton bud routine with his brother, the governor of New York?
Well, somebody called him out for covering for his brother, lying as a quote-unquote journalist!
And Fredo, he fessed up as well.
Cut five.
Like I'll tell you, you're part of the mainstream media despite pretending like you're not.
Look the audience in the eye and tell them I'm part of the mainstream media.
I'm part of the mainstream media.
For all that happened, absolutely you are.
I'm part of the mainstream media.
And you play the same games that the rest of the mainstream media does.
You don't want to take care of your family?
You're doing it tonight.
That's fine.
You've been covering for your brother and you have been...
You, of course I cover for my brother.
Of course I help my brother.
Of course I do.
You know what?
That's been journalistic standards that have now been failed, not just by you, but by every member of the broken political media.
Eric, is he just too stupid to realize what he just said?
Of course I covered, meaning I lied for my brother, the governor?
Yeah, I guess maybe he just doesn't see the problem with that.
Maybe he thinks he has special access, you know?
They call him Fredo for a reason, you know?
He thinks he can get away with it because his brother is the boss, just like in the movies.
He's interviewing Vivek.
Vivek calls him out.
And then he says, yeah, of course I lied.
And he said, I am the mainstream media.
Of course I lied.
Of course I quote, covered for my brother, the governor.
There you have it.
Not too bright, but sometimes, you know, they say the quiet part out loud.
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This is not a joke.
This is mass murder by Hamas of Palestinian babies deliberately in order to get the world
to turn against Israel.
And unfortunately, President Biden is playing into their hands by telling Israel not to attack the hospital.
He ought to be telling Hamas not to put their fighters, their rockets, their tunnels underneath hospitals That's the great law professor emeritus of Harvard University, who's on my show on Newsmax at the weekend, Alan Dershowitz, lambasting the current incumbent from the White House.
The tone of deafness right after the IDF declared that one of the Hamas bases is under a specific hospital in the Gaza.
We have the current president saying, oh, that hospital is sacrosanct and can't be touched.
But is it as bad as what happened a week ago?
Professor Dershowitz reacted to that as well.
The moral equivalency Biden's predecessor Obama declared with regards to the October 7th attacks and the military actions against the IDF.
Let's unpack that all.
It is the topic of his latest article for the New York Sun.
He's one of our regulars here, one of your true favorites.
Lord Conrad Black, welcome back to America First.
Thanks very much, Sebastian.
It seems quite stunning, quite shocking, that any political personality, let alone a former president and a current incumbent, could get into this game of moral equivalency between Hamas terrorists and the military forces of the IDF.
But isn't that exactly what we've been witnessing from the likes of Obama and Biden in recent weeks?
I wouldn't make a distinction between them.
I think that's all we ever saw from Obama, and I think his whole policy, his appeasement
of Iran, his release of money to them, that absolutely phony nuclear deal that basically
said please give us ten years and then you can deploy your nuclear weapons, all of that
was based on the completely false premise that I think had something to do with his
own view of the Muslim background and his own past.
He thought that that would, as he said in his famous speech in Cairo, which was full
of historical inaccuracies by the way, that you know.
It's a new game now.
You have an American president with a partly Muslim background.
I understand you, and we can put all this right in short order.
And his answer to doing that was to put Israel out in the cold and appease the more militant Muslim powers, especially Iran.
And in fairness to Biden, and, you know, your listeners would be familiar with the fact that I'm not a great booster of his, but he is, I think, trying to reconcile.
I mean, having tried with no great elegance and success to ride two horses at the same time, the traditional Democratic Party, which has a large number of reasonable people in it, And this woke, radical left, anti-American, nihilist faction that appears to be about, I don't know, somewhere between 20 and 30 percent of Democrats now.
In trying to ride that, he's supporting Israel much more firmly than Obama ever did, but making these periodic Lapses into a sort of ambivalence, as you say, moral relativism.
I mean, if we learned anything from Vietnam, it was that if you're going to make war, you have to make war and not try and make war and peace at the same time.
You know, we had bombing, we had bombing pauses, we had bombing in some areas and not in others, and LBJ kept going back and forth, and if he just conducted the war, we would have won the war.
You can't have Biden saying Israel has a right to defend itself, but it has no right to conduct the war that it needs to conduct to defend itself, other than with one hand tied behind its back, which, among other things, means that it can't make any attempt to take out the Hamas headquarters, and the inconvenient fact that that happens to be under hospital.
We'll just ignore that.
Now, with that said, I was disgusted at these pro-Palestinian people smearing red paint on the gates of the White House and shouting genocide, Joe.
I mean, here are people demonstrating on behalf of those who murdered children and women in the violation of a ceasefire by a premeditated invasion of Israel, saying that President Biden is committing genocide by not doing all we can to stop Israel taking I think Biden is a bit muddled and a bit the prisoner of his own ambivalence, but I think he's actually basically more or less on the right side on this, but compromised.
But Obama is simply an agent for the Arabs in these matters.
Do you have any theory?
I mean, yeah, I completely concur with this.
I mean, the breach of the security, the damage to the White House perimeter, the blood-like paint daubed across the fence line there, this idea that they preach, you know, stop the genocide, and these are war crimes.
nary a mention of the women, the children who were slaughtered on October the 7th.
Is this just simply a function of effective indoctrination of American youth, or is there
something perhaps darker there?
Well, I think the basis of it is the Hamas strategy, which was clearly carefully worked
I mean, that invasion of Israel was, it must be acknowledged, it was a crisp, professional military operation.
It was a horrible and an evil thing, but it was carried out very professionally.
And I think they, of course, they understood that Israel would respond directly against Hamas, and I think their follow-up plan was to start at once with these huge demonstrations I mean, huge, in the sense that a substantial proportion of the local Muslim populations in the Western countries, I don't think, and I have not seen any evidence, that they're getting a lot of support outside the Muslim communities in the countries where they're demonstrating.
And you're quite right, there are a lot of imbecilic sophomore, kind of browbeat and
brainwashed, useful idiots who think that if it's Israeli, it's white and successful
like America, therefore it must be.
But I don't think as a percentage of the total it's that big a percentage.
So I think the so-called Palestinian plan, the Hamas plan, was our next step is to immediately
accuse Israel of disproportionate response and attempting genocide against, which is
of course complete nonsense.
I mean, what are the 200 million Arabs right around Israel?
240 million, yep, yep.
I mean, is there any country or nationality or ethnic or religious group in the world
that has had a more horrifying brush with genocide than the Jews?
I mean, who on earth do they think they're talking about?
But again, that they could stir up so much credulity from these imbecilic academic areas
and parts of the media that this would spur some of the weaker Western governments into
pleading for a temperate response, meaning a pusillanimous and ineffectual response by
Israel.
So I think it was a strategic thing, and they have naturally enlisted or dragooned elements
within our Western societies, all of them, you know, the British demonstrations, France
and so forth, of these gullible people who fall in with anything that protests against
what we might call an international white capitalist establishment.
But it's all just a tactic, and it's not working.
Israel's paid no attention to it.
And in fairness to Biden, here I think his basic ineffectuality has come to his rescue.
He made these fatuous remarks about the hospital, but he hasn't done anything about it.
Or if he has, the Israeli government has just ignored it, fortunately.
Yeah, and it is delightful to see.
It may be a few weeks late, but let's put those images back up on the screen.
There's no official estimate for the size of the crowd today, but it is huge.
The footage on cable news is as far as the eye can see.
I mean, look at that.
That looks like the Million Man March.
It's absolutely stunning.
A sight to see.
These are the people who are on the side of Israel, who are anti-Hamas.
The fact that the Speaker, the new Speaker of the House, and the Democrat leader of the Senate both opened that event, which is continuing right now.
It's long overdue, but it is good to see you.
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Then I'll tee up Mike Barnicle.
To your point about the witless indoctrinated, I'm going to play this cut.
Conrad, I found this on social media.
This was, I think, outside the White House.
Somebody asking a person who was painting the phrase from the river to the sea on the pavement.
This is cut 12.
From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!
Which river?
That's anti-semitic.
Which river?
I'm asking you, which river, which sea?
Why are you asking me?
What's the point?
Because if you're chanting from the river to the sea, you have to know which river and sea you're talking about, right?
Yeah, I do, you're right.
So which river, so which river... Right?
Does it matter?
If we don't even know, then what's the point of recording?
If you don't even... So you're writing messages that you don't know what they mean?
They have no idea which river or which sea, Conrad.
I was hoping she'd say the Mississippi.
But listen, if you don't know what it means, how can you say it?
Alright, I'm sorry, I shouldn't even talk to you.
I'm sorry.
We're not supposed to engage in this.
I'm hap... I'm happy I...
They have no idea which river or which sea, Conrad.
I was hoping she'd say the Mississippi.
Quite, quite priceless. The idea that you're chanting something and you have no idea what it means.
That's the complete confirmation of the Orwell message, you know, the five minutes of hate, and people not having the faintest idea what they were complaining about.
Yeah, read the script.
Just read the script.
You said you'll tee that up or come in with it?
I will come in with that, then I'll tee up ten.
Ten.
Barnacle.
Alrighty.
No Reid or anything at the top here?
No Cruz or anything?
We have Cruz.
We do have Cruz.
Well, we do have the Cruz.
I'll do the cruise after you bump in with that.
After 12. Okey dokes.
Alright.
How much time?
time. 90. Okay. Jeff, you're gonna call, I told her you're gonna call Aviva on the, from
90.
the hotline.
Okay, he's not here at the moment.
I'll let him know.
I'll text him.
Sebastian?
Yes?
Have you got just a second now?
Yeah, go ahead.
Do you see any signs that... No, she's pretty much static at 9-10% right now.
She may be, you know, capable of knocking DeSantis off the second perch, but no significant growth.
Despite what the Wall Street Journal is trying to peddle.
I mean, in fairness, in some things she's saying good things that need to be said.
I would give her that.
Right, but her performance is not exactly impressive on the debate stage.
Getting into those tussles with Tim Scott is pretty embarrassing.
Yeah, I mean, sort of local South Carolina stuff, you know?
Yeah.
I think anyone would sympathize her a bit, and that thing with Vivek, you know, about her daughter and so on.
But again, I mean, that has nothing to do with electing a president, anything like that.
No, no, no.
It was churlish of him.
Stand by.
. . .
From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!
Which river?
That's anti-Semitic.
Which river?
I'm asking you, which river, which sea?
Why are you asking me?
What's the point?
Because if you're chanting from the river to the sea, you have to know which river and sea you're talking about, right?
Yeah, I do.
You're right.
So which river, so which river... Right?
Does it matter?
If we don't even know, then what's the point of recording?
If you don't even... So you're writing messages that you don't know what they mean?
Right?
It's not racist.
It's not racist.
I'm sorry.
I shouldn't even talk to you.
I'm sorry.
It's anti-Semitic.
It's...
But listen, if you don't know what it means, how can you say it's anti-Semitic?
I'm sorry, I shouldn't even talk to you.
I'm sorry.
We're not supposed to be here.
I'm hap...
I'm happy I...
What were we saying about the mindless drones, the indoctrinated, chanting from the river
to the sea, writing it on the sidewalk, and then being asked, uh, which river?
And they have no idea.
They truly are drones.
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Lord Black, let me ask you a media-related question, which goes to What shall we call it?
I think there's a good phrase somebody coined a few years ago called fake news.
This is a journalist who's been around the block affair decade or two writing a or doing a video hagiography of the current incumbent of the White House.
This is Mike Barnicle.
Cut ten!
I'll tell you what I think.
That very few of us, and very few in the media, really pay enough attention to the weight that this president carries each and every day.
You mentioned most of it.
Right now he is carrying two twin towers of tyranny.
One in Donald Trump here domestically, the other Bibi Netanyahu in Israel, who is perhaps the biggest obstacle to a two-faced solution that exists today.
Read every newspaper in the country about President Biden.
Within the first two paragraphs, they'll point out he's in his 80s.
No kidding.
He knows how old he is.
You couldn't do it.
I couldn't do it.
Someone 45 years of age couldn't do what he does every day.
But he does it.
A 45-year-old couldn't do what Joe Biden is doing, especially because he has to burden the twin towers of terror, which are Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu.
That's Mike Barnicle.
Your reaction, Lord Black?
I think his surname is very apt.
I think that's a good description of anyone who would utter such a drivel as that.
He's a barnacle.
I mean, I never heard of this guy before, but I assume he's just the hired pseudo-historian of this regime.
I mean, look, everybody knows President of the United States.
It's a difficult job.
Everyone would agree that it is, and everyone who's ever run for the office knows before they get there that it isn't.
Particularly a man like Biden, who'd been in Washington for 50 years, including eight years as vice president.
But that has absolutely nothing to do with his performance.
I mean, the fact that it's a difficult job, it's been a difficult job for everyone, starting with George Washington.
Some of them have made a better job of it than others, and this man doesn't make the cut on
that by that meritocratic standard.
But again, his saying that there's some great burden for him to deal with Trump and Netanyahu
is completely outrageous.
I mean, in the first place, they are not the towers of evil that he claims.
And in the second place, Donald Trump is an ex-president and a candidate for renomination.
But that is no great part of Biden's job.
It has nothing to do with executing his office, as the presidential oath requires.
And Bibi Netanyahu is the longest-serving prime minister of a friendly state 7,000 miles away, with a population smaller than the state of Pennsylvania.
And that has absolutely nothing to do with the burdens of Joe Biden's office, nor is Bibi Netanyahu the chief obstacle to a two-state solution.
And how anyone can say that in the weeks following the Hamas massacre of 1,400 Israelis defies my imagination, other than if the surname Barnacle does have some implications for the IQ of this guy.
Well, look, I think the Bard's observation, the lady doth protest too much, or the guest on Joe Scarborough's show doth protest too much.
Does this not smack of a little bit of a desperation trying to polish something which cannot be polished?
Well, look, I think every president has sort of tame biographers, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it is what it is.
It's just a whitewash job coming into an election year.
I mean, I don't know what this guy is writing and who commissioned him to write it, but
it sounds like he's the sort of chosen in-house pro-Biden person that the president will cooperate
with on the understanding that he's going to write a hagiographical account of him.
Nothing wrong with that, I mean, as long as everybody knows what it is.
But it's not history, you know, any more than, you know, John Meacham being the house historian
of the Bush family and then writing a speech for Joe Biden and coming on one of the networks
and praising the brilliant speech without saying that he wrote it.
I mean, you know, if you hire a historian, you get what you pay for.
You don't get a very good historian.
Do you give any credence to the stories some are floating that there will be some shenanigans
around the Democrat candidate and Newsom is just waiting in the wings to slide in?
Thank you.
It's how it looks to me. I mean, I can't believe the Democratic Party bosses, the same people who
frankly picked Joe Biden out of the, you know, out of the ditch where he'd run in the primaries.
He came fifth in New Hampshire with 11 percent of the vote.
And then they, you know, picked him up and put him in and made sure he won most of what was going
on Super Tuesday because they knew they They couldn't run Bernie Sanders because he was too far
left.
So they said, we'll put Biden in with Sanders' program.
That's compromised.
Well, I think the same people have the same power to do it in reverse.
And they cannot run with this candidate.
And it's not just because of his Slipping physical and mental abilities and and I mean it's business performance and the growing ethical and legal problems the combination of it all and and and his performance in office, but I Think what I think what they will do is move him out before the primaries have started So they can primary out Kamala Harris, but I am obviously knew some things that he's the anointed successor
And is acting accordingly.
And I assume that was part of the President of China receiving him.
And the President of China wouldn't normally receive a state governor of the US.
But I wouldn't be so confident that Newsom would win primaries for that party.
I mean, California under Newsom has been no advertisement for how to govern anything.
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So I told you I'm using this studio that Mike warmed the seat up for me earlier today.
And he's got some photograph of him outside.
This is the pre-PhD Mike G.
I am.
I'm mortified that you're in my studio because after I was in your studio in D.C.
have to have a nap today.
I thought, I hope Seb's okay with our humble little abode in Tampa Bay.
I mean, you know you've arrived.
When I said to your team, hey, where's the printer?
They said, well, it's in Seb's green room.
I go down to the green room.
I said, well, there's no printer there.
They said, oh, no, no, it's in the other green room.
He has two green rooms.
You know, you have an old green room and a new green room.
The only room I have has got a urinal down the hall.
It's a white room.
I mean, my goodness.
You have it so good there.
You know, it's so depressing that I come to Tampa and all I hear through the grapevine is about this Gallagher chap complaining about all the lovely candy I have in my green room in D.C.
I mean, just how petty... Do you want me to buy you a big bag of Hershey's Kisses, Mike?
Will that make you happy?
My wife used to say I'm a very shallow, shallow little man.
And I am.
I'm very petty.
I'm jealous.
What's your favorite candy?
What's your favorite candy?
Come on.
Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.
Is Rachel, is Dr. Lucas going to approve?
Is this PhD kosher?
I'm in maintenance now.
I can sneak in a peanut butter cup once in a while.
You know that.
When you're in maintenance, and let me tell you something, boy, you look like a million bucks.
It feels good to feel good, doesn't it?
Oh, PhD is the best.
Yeah, I know.
You had more to lose.
I mean, I'll give you that.
But credit where credit is due.
Alright, let's get to serious business.
We're going to be meeting hundreds of our dear, dear listeners tonight in Tampa with Dennis Prager.
It's going to be a rip-roaring event with you, Mike, the master of the art.
But I missed you in D.C.
because you did something very, very special.
Can you share with my listeners why you were in D.C., Mike?
Sure.
The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews partnered with Salem a few weeks ago, and five of us raised over $370,000 to send to first responders in Israel to help send armored ambulances to the front lines to provide gifts and toys to the children who are, you know, terrified and hunkered down in bomb shelters.
And so I really, really appreciated the relationship that all of us have with With the IFCJ.
Well, they invited me to a screening at the Israel Embassy of 45 minutes of the Hamas atrocities.
And they warned me it was going to be graphic.
It was going to be brutal.
And I steeled myself for it.
I wasn't sure I should go.
But then I prayed about it.
I thought about it.
I thought, you know, I need to go.
I need to bear witness.
So we were in a room, about 60 people.
They showed 45 minutes of some of the most vile, evil things I've ever witnessed in my life.
It was painful.
It was horrifying.
It's every bit as bad as you think it is, and then some, but I'm grateful that the IFCJ and the Israeli embassy extended that invitation so that people could bear witness to what evil looks like.
Seb, it was brutal, it was cruel, and it was just flat-out evil.
There's no two sides to this debate.
There's only one side that's as bloodthirsty and evil as this, and that's Hamas.
Yeah, it reminds me of...
What I did for a living and thought I could just leave behind when I was teaching jihadi ideology to the US military, it was my job to actually watch the videos, the unedited videos of what they did to our prisoners, the beheadings, the immolation of fighter pilots in cages.
I thought that was old history and sadly it isn't.
Can't wait to see you.
We will catch up later this evening.
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She's from up north, from, what is it Chris Plant calls it, America's Hat.
It's called Canada.
We have a photograph, sorry what was that?
All right, we'll call her back.
I know she's on the metro.
Call her back.
We have a photograph of her on the screen right now.
She is an amazing lady.
She's the president of the Teachers in Hebrew Schools for Toronto.
Her name is Aviva Polonsky.
Put the photograph up on the screen, please, Eric.
There we are in better days in Trump Hotel, and she's brought 150 of her students from Canada to the March for Israel.
Aviva, welcome to America First.
Hi, thank you so much for having me.
Right, so you're on the Metro.
It's been an amazing day.
We've been showing the footage from the March.
It looks absolutely huge.
Tell us a little bit about what you witnessed and why you came from Canada with all your students today, Aviva.
Well, it's really important for the students to see the solidarity of communities all over North America together as one voice, especially in light of the, you know, the recent months where there wasn't so much solidarity in Israel, but now we're all one voice, one people with, you know, feeling very strongly and proud of our Jewish identity.
And it was really important for the students to see it and feel, you know, confident and empowered by it, and not feel ashamed,
especially in light of all the anti-Semitism in Toronto recently, and all over North America.
And from the footage, I'm in Florida today, I wish I could be there with you,
but from the footage, it looks like the crowd was absolutely huge.
Yeah, it was about almost 300,000 from what it was reported, around 300,000.
So that's a huge rally for us.
And so, yeah, it was amazing.
It was absolutely amazing.
The walk was even with the spirit.
Everyone was dancing with the flags.
Feeling very, very happy, even though, you know, it's a tragedy, of course, that brought us all together.
But feeling, you know, a sense of of pride, of Jewish pride, which is very important.
And I have to say, I actually sent you a picture of, I went up, and my students, I made my students go up to Christians for Jews to thank them.
They were there in solidarity.
So, we really have to thank everyone, every single one who supports the Jewish people at this horrible time, and not take anyone for granted, you know?
These days, really, really so.
I made the students go up and say thank you, thank you so much for being here.
Well, we are so impressed with what you've done.
We've been playing clips for the last five weeks of what is happening here in America, what's happening on the campuses, the outrageous pro-Hamas, pro-terrorist support amongst those who clearly have been indoctrinated.
What's the situation like in Canada, Aviva?
It's horrible.
It's absolutely horrible.
Actually, just the other day, Indigo, which is a store, a chain of stores that, like Chapters, was sprayed with red paint all over it and anti-Semitic symbols on the windows.
Horrible.
It's like 1938 all over again.
Kristallnacht is about to happen.
I mean, every day there's something else.
And it's mind-boggling.
I'm embarrassed.
To be a Canadian.
I'm embarrassed in the university.
I graduated in York University.
Absolutely embarrassing what's going on.
Students, you know, day in and day out are sending me emails asking for help.
They feel intimidated.
And the administration does nothing.
Does nothing.
So it's pretty bad.
You're a patriot, you're a proud Jewish Canadian, you run that federation of teachers in Hebrew schools for Toronto.
What is your message to Jews in Canada, Jews in America who think, Israel, not my issue, or who have bought into the occupied territory and, you know, genocide against the quote-unquote Palestinians.
What is your message to them, Aviva?
What's happening right now is not about Israel.
It's actually about a clash.
And core values.
And fighting against those Judeo-Christian values.
That's what's happening right now.
So today it's us, and tomorrow it's everyone else.
So my message is, you know, when you see something, say something and stand up for what's right.
And, you know, the world said never again.
So they need to own up to that and not, you know, deep speak.
And they have to stand up and speak up.
And otherwise, we're going to see the past repeated stuff.
Kristallnacht was only in one country.
It led to the Holocaust.
Now we're witnessing this violence and this pro-anti-semitic extremism across the world, from the Sydney Opera House to the streets of the UK.
Today should be the beginning of many, many such giant rallies to stand with our brothers and sisters In the Jewish community, in Israel and around the world.
Please follow this brave lady at Aviva Polonsky.
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Stay safe, my friend, and shepherd those young charges safely back home to Canada.
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These people aren't just protesting outside and exercising their right to free speech, which I fully support as an American.
It's that they're going, you know, they went to the personal offices of a program that runs Israel internships on MIT's campus, and they went to the offices of the people who work for this program, and they tried to enter.
They were going from door to door trying to unlock the doors, and the people who worked in this office had no idea what these students were trying to do by trying to get into their office.
They were yelling, they were accusing them of apartheid, of ethnic cleansing, of genocide.
And it was a really frightening experience.
That's not in Israel.
It's not in Gaza.
It's MIT!
That's Talia Khan, graduate student here in America, talking about the intimidation of the pro-Hamas fellow students at one of our most prestigious colleges.
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That's what Salem's like!
Jeff, are you there?
Are you on the other side?
Are you in D.C.?
Are you in the swamp?
Yeah, I'm here.
What is it like?
I'm just curious because it's kind of weird for me to be sitting here in Florida and then all you guys are eating my candy in the green room back in DC.
Is it hard for you to do it like this or is it easier to have me, you know, in your hair every day?
I'd rather be in Florida with the weather and you can be here in the cold.
You know, it's raining all day today, Jeff!
At least it's not cold.
I want my money back!
It's bloody raining!
It's absurd!
What does that clock look like, Alex?
I have no idea.
I didn't start my stopwatch.
That's one of the things I never have when I travel.
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I have been several times, yeah, as a kid.
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It's weird how she left out the truth, comma, her tweet about never surrendering.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Cut ten.
The funniest thing you've ever heard anyone say about Joe Biden, question mark, Joe Barnacle thinks not even a 45-year-old could keep up with him.
And then 12, the sheer idiocy of the pro-Hamas drones.
This one is asked, what does from the river to the sea mean?
And put from the river to the sea in quotes.
And she doesn't even know which seed.
That's it.
And that's it.
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I I
I get very salty when people call America First a podcast because, hey, it's radio!
It's terrestrial!
It's broadcasting across the nation to hundreds of stations, millions of listeners.
But truth be told, you can also listen to us on a podcast, and I do like podcasts.
But not very many of them.
Just a handful.
Especially from people who, well, know how to tell a story.
A couple that have one of the best podcasts, probably the best podcast in America out there, invited me to come on their show, to interview me.
And I waited breathlessly for months.
I thought they'd left me on the cutting room floor.
And then they published the episode and I listened to it.
And I was shocked because it didn't have much to do with me at all, at least in the beginning.
But it was The best telling of my father's story that anyone has ever told, better than I have told in my books.
And I want to just play a little of this story to explain why we're going to be talking about the art of telling stories in a very special America First one-on-one.
Go ahead.
In 1945, when the war ended, Dr. Gorka's father was just 15 years old.
And then in 1948, when the communists took over, he was 18 years old and he started college.
While at university, he joined an underground Christian students' organization.
He started to get vocal, speaking out against the communist takeover of the country.
And my father, as a young man, said, this is wrong.
We were promised freedom in Yalta.
He resisted.
His underground Christian group decided to take action.
They managed to get in touch with British intelligence, have a courier send information they were collecting on the Soviets, but sadly it arrived on the desk of Kim Philby.
Kim Philby was the head of the anti-Soviet arm of the British secret intelligence service known as MI6.
He was also a double agent who passed along top-secret information to the Soviet Union for over 30 years.
When the information landed on Philby's desk, he turned over Dr. Gorka's father and his anti-communist colleagues to the Soviet Union.
And so all eight of my father's colleagues were betrayed.
The courier was murdered and they were put on a show trial.
His father was just 20 years old.
He was arrested, tortured and given a life sentence.
Two years in solitary, two years down a prison coal mine.
But then, an unexpected event changed his father's fate.
Students, workers, riders, fathers, soldiers, and even some mothers grabbed whatever they could.
Hunting rifles, Molotov cocktails, homemade bombs, any weapon they could get their hands on, and took to the streets like a spontaneous militia to fight the Soviet military and Hungarian security forces aligned with them.
They captured and lynched Hungarian communist leaders, and then set their sights on freeing political prisoners,
including Dr. Gorka's father, Paul.
But the Hungarian uprising was short-lived.
Twelve days later, the heavy hand of Russian tanks entered Budapest to squelch these freedom fighters.
After just a few days, it became clear that the Soviet forces were going to recapture the city and the nation.
So many of the freed anti-communist political prisoners fled the country, including Dr. Gorka's father.
He was liberated by the freedom fighters, and he was asked by an older gentleman to take his 17 year old daughter out of the country to freedom.
They managed to hide under a railway carriage across a minefield into free Austria as refugees.
They ended up in the UK and eventually were married and those were my parents.
They took me, low-energy interview, in the basement of my apartment, and they spun around it a woven fabric of a real story with research, with music, and with just storytelling expertise.
And I am so excited to have them back on the show.
They are the hosts of Red Pilled America, Adriana Cortez and Patrick Karelchi.
Welcome back, my friends.
So happy to be back.
So happy to be here.
So I have a long list of questions my wife gave me this morning because I said, I'm going to have them on the show.
What do I ask them?
What do they ask them?
So we're going to get busy.
We're going to cram a lot of information into this next hour.
But first things first, go to redpilledamerica.com now.
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Okay.
First things first.
And this is, I'm going to geek out here because this is the stuff I care about.
This is why we have this third hour of the show.
The third hour of the show is long form.
I love long form radio.
I grew up on it listening to the BBC as a kid, you know, 40 years ago when it was still, you know, a real media platform.
Um, here in America, I was blessed to be on John Batchelor's show doing long form radio for years before I got this show.
So this is why we dedicate the third hour of the show to long form.
Here's the first question, because you guys are the experts.
Why does long-form media, long-form interviews, impact the culture so?
You know, I think it's something inbred in the human condition that You know, we will one and I'm going to put it in the in the context of storytelling.
I think there's something in the human condition that we store information via stories.
I think it's something that, you know, man has figured out pretty early on.
If you read the Bible and what have you, it's it's packed chock full of stories.
It's just how we retain information.
And I think that is part of the reason why that happens.
I mean, in living in today, you know, so many people thought the social media thing with this kind of short attention span and just brief clips was going to be, it was going to kind of wipe away storytelling.
I think Hollywood got a little bit nervous about that.
And it's definitely taken its chunk and it's, and it's taken a little bit of its attention away from, from maybe long form storytelling.
But I think in general, In the long run, it's just how we store information, and it's how we remember things, and it's how we connect with one another.
That's kind of the... Yeah, and how really we changed hearts and minds, really, through long form and through really, really good stories that touch so many things throughout the story, so many highs, so many lows.
Yeah, people really, I think they want to, they get emotionally connected.
I mean, I, you know, all of us kind of have grown up listening to either Rush or kind of these kind of, you know, people kind of that are very good at storytelling.
And it's just for whatever reason, you just kind of I mean, look at Walt Disney.
I mean, the guy was a was a legend, and he understood it.
And he understood the power of it.
And the power to, to kind of create an American ideal.
But it also can be used in ways that I think the left and Hollywood has been using for kind of nefarious reasons and nefarious intentions for decades now.
So there's a power for good and there's a power for evil.
And I think that's something we need to take into account.
And give us a glimpse behind the curtain, Adriana, because I'm still blown away.
I mean, my best friend listened to the episode and he said, I've never heard your family story like that.
I mentioned some radio host I listened to as a kid in London 40 years ago and you found clips of him that I've been looking for and couldn't find.
How much work was it for you to produce that one episode?
It was a good amount of work, but I have to say, I have to give credit to Patrick on this one.
He really did all of the heavy, most of the heavy lifting on the research.
He is a master of research, but it is, it's incredibly time consuming.
And a lot of the times we'll interview people and it takes us months and months to To come up with something that we feel is worthy to put on live and to share with listeners.
Yeah, I mean, especially, you know, we think you're a legend, Dr. G. And so when you do that kind of thing, there's a lot of responsibility associated with with putting out a story like that.
And so you sit on it for a while and we've sat on stories for quite some time because we just want to make sure we get it right.
You get good at research, you kind of know how to search for things.
And you I mean, there's the tools that we have now.
I mean, could we have told that story?
Ten years ago?
Fifteen years ago?
It would have been hard.
I don't know.
It would have been hard.
Yeah, it would have been really hard.
I just have to say, full disclosure, and thank you for the compliments, about four months after the interview, I kind of gave up.
I said, these guys, they drunk the Kool-Aid, they went to Wikipedia, they hate me, and I'm going to ask them one more time.
And I waited about six weeks, and I asked one more time, and BOOM!
It dropped, and it's incredible.
Guys, they are legends in their own lifetimes as well.
Adriana Cortes, Patrick Corelci of Red Pill d'America.
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Okay.
You understand the importance of this form, the long form, in and of itself, because I think you're right.
I've kind of come to the conclusion that stories themselves are like a fuel for humans.
It's why we tell our children bedside stories.
It's why we watch movies.
Can you explain with your background in Hollywood, in California, that it's not just about long form radio, But how long form stories, you know, the 9000 word article in the New Yorker or the popular novel that came out five years ago, the long form stories, Patrick and Adriana, these things will become the commercial movies that will dominate culture or now, you know, the the binge watching TV shows.
This stuff is really important, isn't it?
It is.
And I think that you kind of you touched on something that I think that a lot of people don't Quite see.
Hollywood and the left understand this kind of the source material aspect of things.
It kind of started with novels and then it kind of moved into when magazines started to become a big thing.
Then it was long form stories and in magazines you have, you know, huge, huge movies, Saturday Night Fever and Dog Day Afternoon and and things like that that came out of magazines because that ended up being the source material.
And then it kind of, once the podcast thing started happening, that started being the next kind of mining field for storytelling.
And the left really understands that in a way that the right, I just don't, I don't think I've heard anyone besides just you right now kind of really tap into that.
It's something they, vastly understand and it's why they in many ways you know in the audio format the right kind of dominated that for decades and it's just been over the course of the last maybe five years or so that the left has started to make a foothold into the audio format because well one they control many of the the the big tech platforms that you know pump this stuff out there
But two is that they really see that, OK, this could be kind of a way that we can get into the audio format and and kind of dig in a little bit to what what the right has been doing.
And so they've been producing, you know, more and more audio format as a result of that.
But it is it's a plumbing area.
It's a way for you to kind of try out ideas in a way that is not as expensive.
You know, you kind of almost like doing product tests.
You guys, as conservatives, you were living out there.
you know, a lot of like WeWork, the WeWork show came out of a WeWork podcast.
There's a WeWork TV show.
They're doing a beta test in a, you know, magazine article and then if it flies,
then it can be optioned, become a TV show or what have you.
I mean, you guys as conservatives, you were living out there, you were in California,
you were waking up to just how monotonous and monolithic it had become.
Let me ask you, Adriana, what happened to conservatives?
Did they get pushed out of popular culture or did they surrender?
What did you witness?
Did we not pay attention?
Because you've done some amazing episodes on what happened to Hollywood in the 30s, the 40s and 50s.
Is it really our fault Were they smarter than us or were we just kind of lazy?
I think what we witnessed firsthand is there are definitely conservatives in Hollywood, but they have become so afraid to speak out because they absolutely will be blacklisted.
And we saw that firsthand.
I mean, I cannot tell you how many, you know, bigwigs in Hollywood have reached out to us and they listen to Red Pill to America regularly, but they're terrified that if they come out, they'll never work again.
It's really become a serious problem in in Hollywood.
But I still encourage everyone to to come out and to to find your tribe and to join us.
Yeah.
And there is like it came I think it happened in the late 60s or so.
When they really started, it was after the blacklist, after the Hollywood blacklist, you know, we've talked about this with you before, when they kind of were able to flip the script and kind of put the blacklist on the right, because they were actually, the left was actually, when they started taking over unions, No, this is really important.
Will you reiterate this?
The story is, oh, oh, the poor, poor socialists were blacklisted by McCarthy and his nasty, nasty acolytes in Congress and in Hollywood.
But in fact, the obverse happened, didn't it, Patrick?
Well, yeah, and the interesting thing is, is this is also shows the power of storytelling.
If you watch one of these kind of, uh, I think Trumbo is one that tells the story of the Hollywood Blacklist.
I had already known fully that the history of Hollywood and how the blacklist happened, this, the quote unquote, Hollywood blacklist.
Uh, and I was watching Trumbo and I, in, in knowing the story, it still kind of made me feel like, Oh, I felt kind of bad for these guys.
That's how powerful storytelling is.
Because it goes back to what we mentioned earlier.
They know how to pluck the emotional heart string.
Yes, exactly.
Even if it's a lie, they're plucking your heart string.
100%.
But it just happened to be that the communist Hollywood, there's a lot of communist infiltration into Hollywood.
They took over these unions and started to push people out, started to get them, you know, out of their jobs, like people that had, you know, incredible success in Hollywood.
And so there's a small group of Hollywood conservatives that basically said, you know what, we need to fight against this.
And they put together a group that was similar to the Friends of Abe group that kind of became popular in the late 2000s, mid to late 2000s.
And so they started to go to D.C.
and say, we've been infiltrated.
These people are taking over our industry.
Please look into us.
They're blacklisting us.
We are not being allowed to work because they are blacklisting us.
And, you know, so that's where the blacklist came in.
We don't just like guess on this thing.
I mean, we talked to Orson Bean, who is a legend in Hollywood.
That's Andrew Breitbart, the late Andrew Breitbart's father-in-law.
Yes, yes.
We interviewed him for a story we did for Breitbart and it ended up becoming a part of an episode that we did for Red Pilled America.
And he told us, yeah, I was blacklisted then because they thought that I was a commie, but I'll tell you that the left was blacklisting the right before that even started.
That's where it came from.
So he, I mean.
They've done, I'm just going to break in here because you've done multi-part episodes on what really happened on Hollywood.
Please celebrate.
I didn't even mention, I forgot.
Is it five years of Red Pill?
Five years.
Five years last week, the anniversary.
Happy anniversary to Adriana Cortez and our buddy Patrick Karelchi, Red Pilled America.
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All right, so I mentioned the five-year anniversary.
God bless you for being the amazing success.
The overnight five-year success that you have been.
You look smashing, I haven't even mentioned.
She is wearing this most splendiferous fedora, and he is wearing a kind of MAGA America first hat, but in this very delicate, accursive text.
I'm going to have to DM you later to find out where you got that.
Very, very cool.
All right, let's get a little bit...
Braggadocious, let's brag a bit.
You are courageous.
You're not just good at telling stories, you're courageous.
What you've done recently with your deep dive investigation of the Sound of Freedom movie and Tim Ballard is... Very few people of any political ilk would do the research you've done.
Let me ask you in the last five years.
Let's start with you, Adriana.
What story or stories have made the biggest impact or maybe surprised you with the impact that they made after you published them?
I would say probably a story that we did with Scott Adams called Let There Be Light.
That story was very, very well received by the audience.
That's the one that comes to mind.
Tell us about it.
It's basically, it's a great, great story.
It's with Scott Adams.
He's the guy behind Dilbert.
Dilbert, that's right.
He's the Dilbert cartoonist.
And in it, we tell a short story by Isaac Asimov that's incredibly touching.
And when I read the story, I don't wanna give too much away, so I don't wanna say it.
It's called Let There Be Light, this episode.
But the first time I ever read it when we were recording, at the end of it, when I give the punchline,
I burst into tears.
It's incredibly emotional and touching.
And it's really just a beautiful story.
It's really a story about, it was one of the stories that grabbed me
and brought me back to God.
I considered myself agnostic for many years and went and studied.
Physics for a while.
I had another path where I was going to potentially become a professor.
I got a master's in mechanical.
It's actually, I say applied physics, but it's actually mechanical engineering, but applied physics sounds better.
And I kind of started seeing science in a way, and I was like, God, how can someone not believe in God when you get this deep into science?
And so, uh, years later, uh, that, you know, the kind of the simulation started to get really kind of hot on the left.
And it started actually making them think, well, is there a creator?
If you're talking about a simulation, then there's a creator.
So it's kind of the story of the simulation.
It's kind of also where we get our name, Red Pilled America, from, from this kind of, uh, you know, either from the Matrix or, or Total Recall before that, um, that used this red pill as a kind of a, as a symbol of truth.
And so yeah, we told that story and it was surprising how emotional we got reading it.
But that's impact on you and I was going to ask you that later, but what has had the most impact externally?
Is it the Tim Ballard?
The uncovering of all the strange things around that story and the lack of truth?
What has got you most reaction?
I would.
Well, that one has definitely been probably the most downloaded as well, the let there be light.
But I would say as far as like reaction, like from a media perspective, there was that one, the one you just mentioned, the it's called the investigation of Tim Ballard.
There was also we did one where we did a deep dive into some accusations about Kamala Harris and her, you know, Her time as the Attorney General in California and we delved into this story about this man that was put into jail and had a moment where he could have potentially been free or at least had a retrial that probably would have set him free.
And so we dug into that.
case.
And I would say that that was also another one where we got some, you know, some reaction from the public, some kind of surprising reaction, because it was a tough, also kind of a deep dive, really had to look into court documents, had to talk with specialists and, and, and what have you to kind of see if this man was wrongly accused.
And kind of completely dispels the idea that Kamala Harris is somehow, you know, not friendly to the African American community, let's put it that way.
Right.
And so that was, I'd say, one of the stories that kind of really, that kind of stood out for us.
I think the episodes, if I'm being honest, that really get the biggest reaction from the audience are our personal stories, which always surprises me, by the way.
I always find that very, very interesting.
Yeah, we just put out an email on that recently, and we asked our audience what they wanted to hear, and I'm always kind of, like, why would you want to hear about us?
But we get that we that's was almost like you know the the dominant one and so I think that is really the beauty of a show like ours and anytime you kind of Especially when there's no visual and you have this audio format where you can kind of imagine like things in your mind and you could kind of create these this own imagery and I think people have heard us now for five years and they're like, you know, they they I don't blame them I mean, we're pretty incredible You know what's also incredible?
The person you've got doing, let's put it back up on the screen, who does the artist that does your pictures.
I don't have the one you did of me, but it's superb.
But I need to meet this person.
I need to commission a few portraits, because you're not only incredible, but the person who does the pictures for you is also incredible.
We're being red-pilled mercilessly by our guests, Adriana Cortez and Patrick Karelchi of Red-Pilled America.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First, one-on-one, coming to you from the relieffactor.com studios.
OK, I've got to burn through so many of these questions.
OK, what do we do next?
Oh, here's a good one.
Here's a good one.
You're very kind to me.
You've flattered me.
You did this amazing episode on me, my father.
And people say, how do you do what you do?
Fighting the lunatics.
And I say, well it's easy.
I don't have scars on my body from where the secret police tortured me like my dad did.
So bring it.
Bring it.
If I wasn't fighting, I'd be ashamed of myself after what my mother, my father, my grandfather, my grandmother went through.
So I have no excuse.
What's your excuse?
Because you guys are so brave and courageous.
So why do you do what you do?
How do you have your commitment to the truth?
Because it's so incredibly rare, my friends.
You know, we have a daughter, and she is our why.
She truly, truly is.
And we want a better America for her, and we were In the situation where we were living and working in Hollywood and we did not like the content that was being put out by them.
So we decided that we wanted to put out content that promoted family values and put God first and our country first.
And so really, that's why we do it.
Yeah.
And I think as far as like being able, because it does take a certain kind of individual to be able to kind of stand out.
around uh people that are constantly kind of condemning especially our culture is so you know skewed to the left in regards to the media and hollywood and everything they put out i for me personally i grew up in an all-black neighborhood and i was fine you know i was just one of the other guys until at one moment I went from Patrick to a racial slur that rhymes with donkey, and I was stunned by this kind of turn of events.
What age did that happen?
Eight years old, nine years old or so.
So you were young.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a couple of years after, uh, the roots came out and I kind of, I spoke to a lot of it kind of did some self plumbing over the years, especially through the show.
That's the beauty of this show is you just kind of plumb your life.
And I kind of looked back at that time and I, it, it kind of, we became hermits to a certain degree.
Our house is getting constantly robbed.
We get targeted because we were white and what have you.
And there comes a point when you kind of live through something like that.
You become a little bit less, what people think about you doesn't stick as much and you don't have as much fear and you become kind of a little bit self kind of proficient.
And I think that that, that period of time, it was, you know, I've lived there from five to about 14 years old.
It was kind of a boot camp for me, I would say.
And it took me years to kind of realize that.
Like, I think I was asked one scene, how can you talk out, you know, in Hollywood the way that you spoke?
I mean, 2009, when we did that story about the National Endowment for the Arts, and And we were very highly regarded within Hollywood.
We had big budgets and we were spending money with certain celebrities.
It was just at the time Obama was rubbing me the wrong way and I felt like if you don't speak out, you're going to face it later.
But the thing is, you didn't just push back over the dominant left-wing narrative and cultural control.
How hard was it for you?
Because I think you're the only people, or you're the ones who started it after a left-wing article started it.
How hard was it for you to do an episode saying, you know, Sound of Freedom, massively successful thing about child trafficking, Tim Ballard's story doesn't add up and his organization has disowned him.
How hard a decision was it for you to say, you know what, now the conservatives are going to hate us too!
You know, I don't think we thought about it that much.
We sort of just, we did what we call the RPA Culture Club, which is just Patrick and I sitting down having a conversation to the audience, and we had just gone to see Sound of Freedom.
And so we started to just to talk about it naturally amongst ourselves, and that's what came out.
But I think we're naturally not afraid to talk about things that go against the grain.
You know, and I also feel like there's these kinds of, you Who are you hardest on in life?
You're kind of hardest on the people that you love the most, right?
I mean, if you're at a store and your kid is kind of acting up, but then you see someone else's kid acting up, I mean, you kind of take care of your own and you're kind of very focused on them and you want to make sure that you raise them right.
And I'm not saying that we're like, you know, father figures or anything, but there's a certain love for your family in a way that you might not have so much for, you know, people that aren't your family.
And so when we saw something like this, for me, I definitely felt like it could take us down a path that was going to be a little bit perilous.
But at the same time, I felt like, you know, if you have a love for your family, you have to stand up.
And even if it makes you kind of unpopular for a minute, you still got to, you have to do it.
I mean, any good parent, any good father that's raising a kid knows that you kind of, when you see them doing something wrong, you got to kind of stand out, especially if it's something that you purview, that you have, that you have knowledge of.
And so I think that was kind of for me how I wrapped my brain around it.
And I feel for, you know, people that are really kind of, you know, obviously we value
children and we want to save children and our show was launched.
Basically, I have a scalp, we have a scalp.
We took out a guy that was getting in bed with other people's kids and it cost us dearly.
We ended up having to move because of it and so we cannot be called You know, pedophile enablers for pointing out that someone's story isn't completely adding up.
And so we did this long form, this many part series looking into the story.
And I think that at the end of the day, what we found has been vindicated by, you know, at least in the short term, has been validated.
And I think at the end of the day, we just want our main search is for the truth.
That's really where we have our tribe.
Everybody, you know, everyone has their tribe.
That's okay.
That's fine.
But at the end of the day, if you really want to solve solutions and you want to be closer to God, the truth is what brings us closer to God and creates stability and creates a healthy environment.
And so that's kind of our motto.
And if you want to get a peek behind the curtain of those discussions, the Red Pill Culture Club, I think that's an added benefit to subscribing to their amazing podcast.
You can listen to those added additional content items at redpilldamerica.com.
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And to the point you've mentioned twice now, I'm just going to send a little message out to my buddies who have the best foreign podcasts, KK and FF.
There's no such thing as not being in a tribe.
If you believe in truth, you're already in a tribe.
So get over yourselves.
You know what tribe you're in.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
This is America First coming to you from the Reliefactor.com studios just outside this insalubrious, fetid, rank, malodorous, noisome swamp that is Washington, D.C.
I'm running out of time.
I've got two big questions I'm going to ask, but I could do this for hours and hopefully we'll get you back.
First things first, can you...
Can you give me some kind of grip on what's happened to popular culture in terms of, I look at the shows that stream, the ones that are super successful, from Breaking Bad to Game of Thrones, and they make me want to vomit.
I mean, I literally cannot watch a full episode.
You know, the first, you know, After the second infanticide in the first episode of Game of Thrones, I'm like, dude, I'm out of here, okay?
Or the second rape scene, or the guy cooking up the meth.
I'm like, I'm not interested in this.
What are they celebrating?
Is it just so easy that we slough it off and say, well, they're just godless and they're hedonists, or is there a better way to understand what they're peddling?
Wanna go for that one?
Good.
I think that it is a deconstruction of our society.
We were just watching something recently.
What was the name of that show?
It was on Netflix.
It was called, I believe, The Fall of the House of Usher.
Yeah.
It's based on an Edgar Allan Poe short, yes.
Yeah, and it's shot well, and it's kind of interesting, and you kind of, it pulls you in, and then you get in, you know, maybe you're halfway in the episode, And it's, you know, one gay character after another.
I mean, it's like literally every character in it is gay.
And that's not how life is, unless you're like, you know, in Santa Monica.
I mean, it's just not how life is.
And it kind of pulls you out.
Listen, we're storytellers.
We understand that as long as something doesn't pull you out of a story, then it's fine.
We went and saw Les Mis recently, and it had an Asian character for one of the kind of big, big characters.
It had a black character for Cosette.
Oh, I've seen that production.
I've seen that production.
It was beautiful.
Yeah, at first we were kind of like, ah, you're taking me out of this story.
Like, this is France in like, you know, but I have to say that they had talent and they delivered and it took me, I was taken out of the story briefly, but then I was pulled back in.
I do think that there is at times, if I'm being honest, some good intentions in regards to wanting to bring in people that maybe haven't had representation within certain kinds of communities.
I get that.
But I do think that there is also a very big contingency of people that really hate America.
They want it to be different.
They don't.
They are victims.
And they've set up a system in such a way that has made it so that they're constantly pumping this stuff out.
And it really starts in theater.
It really starts in In American theatre, and we've experienced that.
Our daughter has gone to theatre competitions, and they end up peddling this stuff to them at a very, very young age.
And then from there, it filters out anybody that can't take that, and it starts to carry on the ones that can take it, and they end up being the ones that infiltrate all of the TV shows.
And sometimes it's just so stinkingly blatant.
I mean, Ted Lasso, which of course, you know, the main character is made fun of as the useless dad, whatever.
But the sexiest person in the show, in season three, has to become a lesbian.
And you go...
It's like guys it's like you know it's like hammer on head I mean really I mean you had a funny show it was well written but this is so transparent it's so obvious okay um you mentioned how popular so I'm gonna make a mea culpa now I'm gonna make a confession when I heard my wife said you've got to listen to the latest episode right now it's this amazing personal story of Adriana and I thought But I like the stuff they do the deep research about historic stuff.
Do I really want to know about the hosts of the show?
Because I always get I always cringe when people want to know about me.
Okay.
And I listened to this episode and it is Yeah, it's the most powerful episode I've heard you produce.
It's about The really dangerous health situation your wife was in, then what happened concurrently to your brother, what happened to you in your business.
I have to ask you, what was the... First, was it difficult the first time you made that episode to like completely open the kimono like that for both of you?
Yes.
Very.
I was a little bit resistant to actually doing the episode to begin with.
It was obviously very, very personal.
It was, without a doubt, the worst time of my life.
So I was a little resistant, but at the end of the day, it ended up being so cathartic and such a good thing to do.
And the audience responded So so strongly we got so many Messages from listeners just thanking us for for sharing our story and and really for the message at the end Yeah, I think if you know now going back into your earlier question, which one kind of had a public impact I would say that was definitely one of the ones at the very top.
We got people that said that that You know that they have they're going through something at that time and and you know these words of suicide kind of were thrown out there and and that they hearing that kind of helped them get through the moment that they were getting into and you know I think that it's one of those things and for us it was super cathartic because I think that there was still some residual resentment over my
Maybe not taking the situation as seriously as it ended up being Early on and so we were able to work through that and It's just I think that it's it's moments like that when we produce a show like that that really kind of is Touching because and it's in its it brings us closer together.
I have to say it in the weirdest way the show has made us a Even a stronger couple than I think we would have had, than we would be without it.
You know, so often there's been all of these little things.
I'll be honest, we got in a big fight just producing that show because it brought out some of those things.
It's almost like you're sitting in therapy and you're talking to a therapist, but instead of just talking to one person in a room, you're talking to your entire audience.
And it's a lot cheaper.
Yes.
I have to say, halfway through this episode, You turned to your wife and the way you looked at Adriana is the way all husbands should look at their wives.
I just, if you're listening to this on radio, um, you need to find us on Rumble.
You need to go to Twitter because we post the third hour on Twitter, the video, and you need to go back and watch this and watch how Patrick Carell, she looks at his wife, Adriana, because that's how you look at your eternal love.
Okay.
Last question.
What message do you have for those out there who have trouble standing up for the truth publicly?
My message to them would be that the truth will always, always come out, no matter what.
And you know what the truth is, and it takes courage to To be the first one to do it, but I highly encourage people to do it because in the end you will get
So much more respect and be and feel rewarded by doing the right thing.
Yeah.
Don't be afraid.
Don't be afraid.
It's really, I mean, you're talking to people that and Sebastian, you can relate with this.
You, you take the, some arrows and, and you come out stronger from it.
And this is what life is about.
I mean, life is not about just going to work nine to five and just coming home and just being beaten down by the environment around you.
I mean, it's about fighting.
You got to do it with a smile on your face.
Enjoy it.
It's about living.
You know, you have a legacy that you're going to leave behind and you want to make sure that we leave a better America for our children and for future generations.
And that doesn't happen when you're quiet.
It doesn't happen when you're sitting down and sitting quiet and being silent.
You have to speak out.
Don't be afraid.
There's no reason to be afraid.
Fear is not something that you should let into your heart.
Things that are worth it are things that one must fight for.
Well, we salute you on the fifth anniversary of Red Pilled America.
We wish you another 25 years or more of unbridled success.
The website is redpilledamerica.com.
Follow them on social media, redpilled underscore USA.
Adriana Cortes, Patrick Corralchi, we admire you and we give you All the wind for your sails so you continue doing what you do.
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