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Sebastian Gorka: Jihadi supporters take over London

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	Okay, what happened to Greta Thunberg at the weekend is quite amusing.
	I guess the left has had enough of her, so she's switching to a pro-Hamas activist.
	Just listen to somebody in Holland who's kind of had it with Greta.
	Play Cut 5.
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	What does that even mean?
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	This is the latest iteration of the anti-West ideology.
	Let's dig a little bit deeper with somebody who, well, he's quite the expert on jihad.
	He's written numerous works on the topic.
	The one he sent me most recently is a massive toe.
	No, no, no, that's the other one.
	Switch the other one up.
	It is The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism with a foreword by our good friend Ibn Warraq.
	And the other one is The Legacy of Jihad.
	First time on America First.
	Andrew Boston, welcome to the Salem News Network.
	Thanks for having me on, Seb.
	All right, so let's start with the basics.
	If people aren't following you on Twitter, they should because you're writing a PhD thesis every single day with your posts.
	But talk to us about why Hamas should not be understood as a political entity and why it is genetically and inextricably linked to the concept of holy war and to Islamic jihad.
	Well, I think it's very clear from Hamas's founding document or covenant.
	Which is a really, really toxic amalgam of both jihadism and traditionalist Islamic Jew hatred.
	I mean, even before the preamble, it opens up with a verse from the Quran, which permanently debases the Jews for their alleged killing of prophets.
	That's before the preamble, which then goes on to, Lord, the Muslim Brotherhood.
	And then there's an entire section in the document on jihad, And it reiterates, you know, classical Islamic teachings and then melds it to a global jihad, in this case against Israel, against the Jews of Israel, which the entire global Muslim community, or ummah as Hamas puts it, is to join in.
	And one of the problems, Seb, is that it's difficult, it's really difficult to view Hamas in isolation when you have the leading Sunni Islamic teaching institution, Al-Azhar
	University, which President Obama visited early in his presidency and lauded, essentially
	teaching exactly what you find in the Hamas covenant.
	This really adds, widens the circle of hatred and jihadism.
	Let me just, I have in front of you, I was reading it again on the plane today on the
	This is the founding charter of Hamas.
	This is page two.
	It's a quote from Allah himself.
	The day of judgment will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, killing the Jews.
	When the Jew will hide behind stones and trees, the stones and trees will say, O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill me.
	I think that's hard to pass, is it not, Andrew?
	Yeah, and Seb, just a minor correction, that's really from a canonical tradition of Muhammad.
	So if we're to imply the words, it's coming from Muhammad.
	But that hadith or tradition appears in the two major canonical collections, Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, and the word Sahih means sound.
	Those are the most revered traditions and the most vetted, whatever that vetting process is, in the Islamic system.
	And again, the sentiments broaden out from Hamas.
	First of all, that hadith has been reiterated again by Al-Azhar University, but there was very interesting polling data set.
	It's a little old, but I don't think it's changed very much.
	In 2011, the Clinton family's favorite pollster, who was actually an excellent pollster, Stanley Greenberg, did something very courageous.
	He went to the West Bank and Gaza with his team.
	They had a questionnaire in Arabic.
	And they questioned specifically on two articles, the one that includes the hadith that you just read, and then the one on jihadism.
	From the Hamas covenant, they formulated two questions.
	And with regard to what you just read, 73 percent of the Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza agreed with its sentiments, with its desired outcome, which is annihilation of the Jews, individually.
	And then there's another article in the Covenant which is detailed about jihad, which goes into destroying Israel as a political entity, the state of Israel.
	And that found agreement amongst 80% of the Palestinians polled.
	So what we're talking about is not a political entity.
	We're talking about a modern variation of the Muslim Brotherhood, or a sub-chapter that is committed to one strategic goal, which is the annihilation of Jewry, of the Jewish population in that part of the world.
	And that's really, Andrew, isn't it, what the river-to-the-sea chant means at all these demonstrations?
	Absolutely.
	And again, Seb, we see that hadith repeated by the Godfather or Allahfather of what became Fatah, Haj Amin al-Husayni.
	He formulated a fatwa in 1937, which included that hadith, and was so potent, again, a compendium of Islamic Jew hatred and jihad, that Hitler's Nazi Germany had it translated into many languages when they were going about the world trying to recruit Muslims to their cause.
	And, you know, so it unfortunately resonates throughout the Muslim world.
	We're going to continue the discussion with Andrew Boston.
	Follow him at Andrew Boston, B-O-S-T-O-M.
	The books that you need to check out right now are Islamic Antisemitism, The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism, and The Legacy of Jihad, Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims.
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	And that's to try and look at our side and give us a kind of diagnosis, why it was that
	the West and apparently even the IDF fell for this representation of Hamas as just a
	political entity, Andrew.
	Okay.
	Just some good news, Seb.
	Mort Klein, who you know is very courageous, just put out the first condemnation I've ever seen from a Jewish organization of Al-Azhar directly because of that fatwa that Al-Azhar issued on October 19th.
	I've never seen a Jewish organization have that kind of courage.
	Wow.
	Did he tweet it out?
	Do you know?
	I don't think so.
	I just got it on the email list.
	You know, I was entre-nous.
	I was helping him write the press release, and I didn't know it was going to come out so quickly.
	Alright, I'll text him now.
	That's super, thank you.
	Um, I sent... Oh, oh, actually, yeah.
	So, Eric, I'm gonna use this first photograph I just sent you, then I'll discuss the tweet.
	Okay.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, okay, let me get that one real quick.
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	We are back with our good friend Andrew Boston, a true scholar On Jihad, I of course dabbled in that topic for many years, but he has written numerous works.
	The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism is the latest tome I've received from the good Dr. Boston, and also The Legacy of Jihad.
	I was written up in the Daily Caller, Andrew, this morning because of a tweet I sent out over the weekend.
	Let's put it up on the screen.
	There was half a million pro-jihadist, pro-Hamas demonstrators on the streets of London the weekend.
	And the Metropolitan Police posted this, Andrew.
	We're investigating the people in this photo in relation to a hate crime that took place today.
	I retweeted that, addressing the Metropolitan Police.
	Maybe you should have arrested them when they were walking around London with jihadi headbands.
	Andrew, help us diagnose our side of the problem here.
	How is it that policymakers, chiefs of police, intelligence directors, who should have known better, fell for this?
	I mean, we've got the founding chart in front of us.
	You can read it in English.
	These guys are terrorists.
	How did they fall for this?
	Oh, it's just a political entity and it's anti-colonial.
	How did that happen, Andrew?
	Well, I think, Seb, you know, I credit people like yourself who pointed out for many years that, you know, let's be honest.
	I mean, it's not paranoid to say that there's a certain amount of infiltration in the halls of power by Muslim Brotherhood operatives, by others who share that worldview.
	And there was For a period of time, there was a purging of teaching about the ideology of jihad and lumping it together blandly with terms like extremism without separating it out as its own independent ideology in form of terrorism, in form of imposition of the sharia.
	And it became very difficult for people to talk frankly about what was going on.
	And I think it affected the education of some of our public servants.
	Now, on the other hand, you point out the obvious.
	Even with all that happening, you could still read the darn charter and see what the ideology is.
	So what do you think is the weight of October 7th?
	Will this be, finally, some kind of wake-up call for Rip Van Winkle in the policy world?
	Or is the murder of 1,400 Jews, men, women, and children not enough, Andrew?
	I, you know, tragically, I'm not sure it's going to wake up enough people.
	I think it's awakened to a certain extent the Jewish community, which has lived in a
	lot of denial about this problem, the ADL being perhaps the worst.
	You know, Seb, it's an interesting paradox with the ADL.
	They do some of the best surveys in the world on the extent of anti-Semitism.
	They come up with a very simple instrument, which gauges extreme anti-Semitism as believing in at least 6 out of 11 classical and modern anti-Semitic stereotypes.
	They apply it across the world, and invariably—I mean, the 16 most anti-Semitic nations in the world are all Muslim states from the Middle East and North Africa, where this degree of anti-Semitism is anywhere from about 75 to 95 percent.
	It's gone into diaspora populations, and yet ADL is Still hunting down a handful of neo-Nazis and calling even people that are Trump supporters white supremacists, in spite of their own data.
	So even the ADL now has been forced to focus on this problem at least a little bit more.
	Yeah, this is, I don't think irony is the word that kind of covers what we're talking about after serving in the White House, after anybody who worked for the President.
	The President himself, his family were called anti-Semites and bigots for the last seven years and we find out where the real Nazis are.
	And they're amongst the left.
	The book is The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism and The Legacy of Jihad, both by our friend Andrew Boston.
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	John, happy Monday.
	Happy Monday.
	Not so happy in the Biden White House.
	A subpoena just issued a few moments ago.
	Not so happy in the Biden White House.
	We'll get to that in a second, but first things first.
	I heard you got a little bit...
	Out of your reporter lane and more into your kind of, I'm an American Citizen 2 lane on my friend Steve Bannon's War Room, and it had to do with this topic.
	This is Rona Romney McDaniel being asked a pretty good question on CNN.
	Cut three.
	Given where we are with Donald Trump, again, far and ahead in every single poll in every single state, do you still see value in presidential debates with the candidates who make the stage?
	I do.
	And I actually think some of the things we've done with this debate process have been very instrumental.
	We started with 14 candidates.
	In 2015, going into Iowa, there were still two stages.
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	We've signed up 30,000 through these debates.
	Desperately trying to justify the concept of a debate where the guy in front isn't on the debate stage and he's 50 points in front of them.
	You had something to say about the chairperson of the RNC at this point.
	Well, let's have your reaction to what our friend Vivek said about, you know, you haven't won an election in about seven years, so maybe it's time for you to step down.
	Can this woman maintain her position, John?
	I don't think so, based on the reporting that I've been doing, and that is really what drove my appearance on Steve Bannon the other day.
	There is clearly a groundswell of frustration that the RNC just can't do what the RNC is supposed to do.
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	We'll see if and when that happens, but there is a growing frustration.
	All right, so the RNC institution may be in trouble, but likewise the Biden family in the break.
	You said breaking news from Chairman Comer.
	Share with us what is happening on Capitol Hill.
	Just a few moments ago, after months of stonewalling, the Biden White House hasn't made documents available, witnesses available, concerning the discovery of Joe Biden's classified documents.
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	Can I get a sanity check from you, John, on a theory a friend of mine floated on his radio show this morning.
	I was listening on my way to Florida.
	He said, Newsom's the guy.
	They have to get rid of Joe, and he's going to leave after he pardons Hunter and uses that as an excuse to resign.
	I just don't see the evidence for that yet.
	It's not out of the question, but having followed politics as closely as you have as an investigative journalist, what do you think of that scenario?
	I've heard a lot of people float different versions of that.
	The truth of the matter is, everything I see inside the Biden White House is preparing for a 2024 election.
	If you had decided, you'd probably cut back your fundraising, you'd probably cut back your infrastructure building.
	He is not doing that.
	And I think that that's one of the first signs to me.
	I think the second sign is, everyone thinks, well, wouldn't Governor Newsom be a great
	guest, a great replacement on the ticket?
	He's actually underwater in his own approval ratings in California.
	If liberal California is not in love with him right now, I don't know how he's going
	to sell himself to the rest of the country.
	And you know, I've seen him take a lot of steps.
	He met with the Chinese premier.
	He went down to the border.
	He's acting like a presidential candidate, but his polling numbers are heading in the
	same direction as Joe Biden's.
	Maybe not as low, but there are real warning signs that Gavin Newsom is not as viable a national candidate as maybe Democrats saw it a few months ago.
	Those polling numbers flipping around and there's this really big story.
	It hasn't got a lot of attention in the mainstream media.
	We've done a lot of Just the News.
	Yeah, California put billions and billions and billions of dollars into clean energy, right?
	They were going to be the clean energy maven of America.
	We're going to show the rest of the country how it's done.
	Well, carbon emissions keep going up in California, so apparently the plan is not working.
	But here's the big thing.
	California is stopping accepting some of the solar and wind power that they're taking.
	You know why?
	They have no transmission lines to transmit them.
	If Gavin Newsom's claim is clean energy, he's got a really dirty record going into the 2024 election.
	I think that Gavin Newsom would have a very hard time running right now.
	Send me those stories.
	You know my team.
	You have the numbers.
	Send me those stories.
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	What was the second part about?
	about Hamas, London, the genetic anti-Semitism of Hamas.
	Oh, come in with the Newsom cut.
	Cut ten.
	Newsom cut ten.
	Yep.
	It's weird. It's...
	It's definitely, I think, something at this end.
	Like processor power or something.
	You can put the mics up.
	Yeah, the mics are still on.
	Because the image from Boston and Solomon and Cordy was fine.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's true.
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	Folks say, oh, they're just cleaning up this place because all those fancy leaders are coming into town.
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	Yeah, yeah.
	We don't care about the people who live here, but when our commie buddies come to town, it's gonna be spic and span.
	Absolutely disgusting.
	Franco wants to talk offline.
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	Let's go to Phil in Philly.
	Hey Dr. G, thanks for taking my call.
	Just a happy belated November 10th birthday to all my fellow jarhead, leatherneck marines out there.
	November 10th, 248 years old.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey!
	Are you a crayon eater, Phil?
	I didn't know that.
	Well, God bless!
	You kept that very quiet.
	What's your favorite color of crayon?
	Red and yellow.
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	Alright, go ahead Phil.
	Sorry, just having fun.
	I mean, the press is putting out there that Biden's going to meet Xi Jinping.
	It's Xi Jinping putting him on the carpet.
	He is not destroying America quick enough.
	We're down to about 65 million barrels of reserve in our national reserve.
	He wants to be in Alaska by December 25th.
	Biden's not moving quick enough.
	Does that make sense?
	Even a little bit?
	Look, I read this whole article on the plane, this 9000 word vomit from his national security advisor in foreign affairs about how great Biden's foreign policy is.
	And it was like it was just fantasy land.
	This is the article he had to edit.
	He had to go in online and remove whole sections of it after October the 7th.
	Look, answer this question, Phil.
	Would you be doing anything differently as president if your goal were to destroy America, Phil?
	Nothing.
	He's staying the course.
	He's getting rid of as much of our national reserve of oil that he can, and he's just completely selling out this country.
	But, you know, and Milley resigns ten days before those attacks in Israel all of a sudden.
	He knew it.
	They knew what was going on.
	No, no, no.
	Don't sell that.
	Don't do that.
	You're going QAnon territory.
	Nobody knew it was going to happen because then you're saying Israel willingly had 1,500 of its citizens murdered.
	Don't go there, Phil.
	Don't do that.
	That's not right, OK?
	This is a nation that suffered the Holocaust, OK?
	Millie is scum, utter scum, but his time was up.
	And thank the good Lord he's gone.
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	Because unless the truth is found, we will never have fair, free, and honest elections.
	And we have to have them.
	President Trump talking in Claremont, New Hampshire.
	He's a proud election denier.
	Why?
	Well, if we don't have free and fair elections, what do we have?
	And if we have governors and secretaries of state unilaterally changing the way elections are run, which is against the U.S.
	Constitution, because it is clear state houses run the elections, even federal elections, well then the results of any such state-run election are invalid.
	We need to have transparency.
	Why would you not want to have transparency?
	For example, in the Commonwealth, where I live in Virginia, the then-Democrat governor unilaterally said for the first time ever in the state's history, we're not going to verify signatures.
	Why would you not verify signatures?
	Whether it's on a check, on a contract, there's only one reason.
	Fraud!
	And of course, the state house just rolled over.
	President Trump is right.
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	Hour two of America First.
	We'll be talking to Liberty University's Dave Bratton.
	Then it will be the manhood hour.
	But first, I want to go on the record with a list of quote-unquote Republicans This is from the Daily Caller, Henry Rogers.
	Here are the 22 congressmen and women who voted with the Democrats.
	So these are, quote-unquote, Republicans who voted with the Democrats to kill the censure of Rashida Tlaib, the anti-Semitic, pro-Hamas member of Congress.
	Now, if this is one of your representatives, I'd like you to tell them what you think.
	I'd like you to write to them.
	That's the most important thing you can do.
	You can call them up, but, you know, a letter is worth between 20 and 50 phone calls, according to which congressional math they use.
	But call them up, email them, or write them an original letter, you know, paper, pen, and tell them what you think.
	Are they on the side of the anti-Semites?
	Here are the 22 quote-unquote Republicans.
	North Dakota's Congressman Armstrong, Colorado's Buck, California's Duarte, North Carolina's Edwards, Virginia's Griffith, Wisconsin's Grothman.
	Wyoming's Hagerman.
	What's that about?
	Michigan's Huizenga.
	Darryl Iser of California.
	Oh, I'm going to text Darryl.
	What is going on, Darryl?
	South Dakota's Johnson.
	California's LaMalfa.
	Kentucky's Massey.
	What an odd bird he is.
	California's McClintock.
	Georgia's McCormick.
	Ohio's Miller.
	Iowa's Miller-Meeks.
	Michigan's Molinar.
	Georgia's Scott.
	Indiana's Sparks.
	Really, Victoria?
	Really?
	Really?
	And then Ohio's Turner and Michigan's Wahlberg.
	And there's one more on here.
	Jeff, can you guess who I left out?
	One of your favorite fake MAGA congressmen?
	That's because you won't go to his office and say that, as he said in that rant.
	That's Chip Roy, right?
	How did you guess?
	Chip Roy, the great MAGA congressman, refused to censure Rashida Tlaib.
	Jeff, why would you refuse to censure one of the worst anti-Semitic racist bigots in the Democrat Party?
	That one I don't get.
	That's pretty easy to do.
	I mean, you're not going to get any backlash at all for doing that.
	Right!
	And Daryl Issa?
	Doesn't make any sense, does it?
	I don't get any of that either.
	It makes zero sense.
	I'm going to be texting Daryl and Victoria Sparks in the break.
	But first, let's get back to some real news.
	I'm sure if you're on social media, at least as half as much as I am, you will have seen
	the absolutely shocking video from Las Vegas of a 17-year-old young man being stomped to
	Eric, you wrote this up for American Greatness.
	Tell us a little bit about this story and what happened.
	It really is, like you said, one of those tough stories to talk about.
	Seventeen-year-old Jonathan Lewis, a student at Rancho High School in Vegas.
	This happened about two weeks ago, the actual assault, which, as you mentioned, was captured on video, filmed vertically, presumably by another student.
	He succumbed to his injuries just the other day.
	He was placed on life support in the aftermath of the assault, but obviously did not survive.
	His father, who's also named Jonathan Lewis, Said that his son was actually planning to move out of Vegas and move to Austin, Texas to live with his father.
	He was living with his mother at the time.
	And he also, the father also went on to say the family has been told by investigators that some of the students involved will most likely be charged with murder when this is all said and done.
	And if you look at the video, it's a white boy being stomped to death almost completely exclusively by black fellow students.
	That is correct.
	Yes, a white victim and black perpetrators.
	And of course, it goes without saying, imagine for one second, if you will, if the racial rules were reversed in this situation, what the reaction would be from not just the American media, but all over the world.
	This would be like the next big story.
	But of course, because it's less convenient to their narrative.
	No one else is really talking about it.
	And apparently, some of the reports say that he was intervening to stop one of his friends or another student being bullied.
	If that is the case, then yeah, once again, it's a case of, you know, good Samaritans getting punished for their actions.
	You know, we saw this obviously with, you know, Daniel Penney in New York, the subway incident, and a recent similar one.
	That's how it is now in America, is you try to do good things and you get punished for it.
	Yeah.
	Please keep Jonathan Lewis' soul in your prayers and pray for the strength of the family that survived him.
	OK.
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	Another bit of interesting news politically is, well, let's listen to Matt Vesper.
	This is our colleague at Town Hall.
	Headline, hit the brakes!
	Virginia Republicans might have a chance to retake the State Senate.
	So, not a good week for us last week.
	The House was in the hands of the Republican Party, as was the Governor's mansion.
	And we were hoping to win the Senate as well.
	Lost the Senate, lost the House.
	It's still Governor Youngkin as Governor.
	However...
	There's a little wrinkle in the election.
	This from Matt Vesper.
	The 2023 election cycle wasn't pretty for Virginia Republicans.
	Governor Glenn Youngkin's attempt to control both chambers of the state legislature in Richmond went up in smoke when Democrats retained control of the Senate and retook control of the House of Delegates.
	Was it an earthquake?
	No, not exactly.
	Democrats have a slim majority in the lower chamber.
	And in overall, Virginia returned to its 2021 political landscape.
	Or did it?
	Republicans likely gain one Senate seat and lose a few House seats in Virginia.
	A state Biden won by 10 points.
	We have reports, however, of some funny business with one Virginia Democratic state senator who, um, well...
	May have lied.
	This was uncovered by the Daily Wire's Luke Rosiak, who said the following.
	There may be issues with the validity of Senator Ghazala Hashmi's address.
	You must live in the district you're representing in Virginia, and multiple sources say Hashmi's paid Well, let's use a polite word, is incorrect.
	Hashmi represented Senate District 10 but opted to run for the 15th district.
	This reasoning is apparent.
	Why?
	Because it would have been a slam-dunk victory.
	However, it seems as if she doesn't live in that district.
	Multiple reports confirm that she lied about where she lives and she lives in an apartment that is not part of her district.
	Eric, I've got to ask you, even if it turns out that this senator wasn't in the district where she was running for, does it really matter in today's day and age?
	I mean, yeah, the carpetbagging has been a thing in politics for a long time.
	It's certainly more prevalent in certain states over others.
	I'd be surprised if any action is taken, only because don't you think this would have come up before the election happened?
	Don't you think this would have been an issue before election day?
	Because the fact that it's only coming up now shows someone must have found out at the last second and is basically trying to bail out the state GOP at this point.
	Yeah, it could be, could be, but we do know Luke Rosiak has done some amazing investigative journalism in the past.
	He was the person who uncovered much of the sexual assault story concerning Loudoun County and how it was covered up by the then superintendent of the school's authority.
	So maybe Luke just did his work and the timing could have been better, but at the end of the day, it's up to the courts.
	Are the courts in America prepared?
	To undermine the results of an election that was tainted?
	They didn't in 2020, did they?
	We keep hearing this, oh, oh, they threw President Trump's cases out of the court.
	No, 99% of the time they didn't even listen to them.
	Why?
	I guess because they're afraid.
	Cowards.
	Not judges.
	Cowards.
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	We'll be back with Professor Dave Brat of Liberty U.
	♪♪♪ Bunch of hard cynics.
	Thank you.
	Who are you calling cynical?
	Nobody, just a third person or something.
	Alright, so tell me, unpack for me this thing you sent me.
	Well, I got better than that now.
	I'll, uh... That... Can we pot him up a bit?
	Yeah, how's this?
	Go ahead, Dave.
	Yeah, that thing I sent you, I've since improved on.
	That was just to show people the extent of the debt.
	That in order to just pay off part of it, right, just $4 trillion, here's what you got to do.
	This, this, this, and this.
	It'd be, like, better if we wouldn't spend it all in the first place, you think?
	Right.
	And so, you know, it's $50 trillion we're in, and those stats were off the 10-year budget line.
	But I mean, you saw option one, increased taxes, right?
	Top income rate 37 to 45, tax capital gains, pass-through businesses, estate tax, automatic minimum tax, 45% above a million bucks for everybody, raise the corporate tax 21 to 28.
	That is some heavy lifting, and that only gets you $4 trillion.
	Right.
	And that's only two years deficits, right?
	So you can save all that if you just don't do the current two trillion dollar deficit per year.
	Right.
	And then I found some better stuff on the on the stuff I've been Steve Moore and all these guys.
	I kind of pinged him without paying him.
	I was at the Bernie Marcus thing and in Palm Beach on a panel with him and Steve Forbes and the tax cut guy.
	And Charlie Gasparino, who's fun by the way, he took my side.
	He thought they were lying.
	And what was the argument?
	Oh, Steve Moore and those guys said we can grow our way out of this thing.
	So I found a chart back from just 2012 to 2023, back before we had any of this $2 trillion a year
	debt, it would take 7.7% economic growth back then with just $1 trillion deficits
	to grow our way out of it.
	it.
	And CBO and all the forecasters have us growing at 1.5% at the end of the budget cycle.
	1.5%.
	That's the long-run extended forecast because productivity stinks and the interest on the debt is going to slow us down.
	There's a feedback loop there that's bad.
	All right.
	Standby.
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	And does video show up on this?
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Doug, I always think it's just radio.
	I would have sent you the charts.
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	Okay, um...
	What is going on on Capitol Hill?
	We've got a new speaker, allegedly.
	He's got some two-tier plan for stopping the government shutdown.
	Will it do anything to help us with the debt?
	I don't think so.
	Let's ask the man who knows he's the Dean of the Business School at Liberty University, a good friend of the show, Professor David Brack.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Hey, thanks for having me on, Zeb.
	So before we get to this issue of the debt and what these trillions actually mean and can anything be done about it, will you talk to me about government shutdowns?
	Is it bad if the government shuts down?
	Does it put a little pressure on?
	Because we've been doing omnibus and CR since the 1990s.
	What's your take on the politics and also the fiscal response to a question of impending government shutdown?
	Yeah, well, as everyone will see in the numbers that come, this time is different.
	You know, you're never supposed to say that phrase.
	But number one, a shutdown is usually terrible because we don't own the press.
	And we don't have a speaker who will use the speaker's megaphone
	to tell the American people the cost, the trade-offs that are at play.
	Now things are different.
	We got a speaker who can go out there and explain to the American people
	what $50 trillion looks like, and the impact on the kids,
	and the impact on interest on the debt, and the impact on slower economic growth,
	the impact on your wage rate, the impact on inflation, et cetera.
	So that's the big caveat.
	With that in place, if he's willing to go out and explain to people that this—and Wall Street will confirm his bias, right?
	The bond vigilantes are warming up.
	Wall Street's getting nervous.
	There's plenty of external evidence for that.
	And so he goes out and make that case, then the threat of a government shutdown when he holds the four aces, right?
	It's kind of like the Israel thing, the Israel thing versus more IRS agents.
	In the past, we've never had a speaker who would go make that case.
	If you go juxtapose aid for Israel, and we're going to pay for it by cutting IRS agents that come harass you, I think the American people, if you make that sale, are going to go for that.
	It sounds like you're confident that we can now finally communicate more effectively about what this means.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Yeah, well, this turnaround was so, you know, it happened so quickly and so unexpected.
	I really like Mike.
	I trust him.
	He's going to have some hard sledding here because I don't know what's been put in motion already.
	I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I got to see him come out with an axe on the spending because the numbers I'm about ready to explain, there's no way around it.
	We have to take an axe.
	The two trillion dollars in deficit spending for the next 10 years is not sustainable.
	It will ruin our economy and it will ruin your life.
	Alright, so there is, we were talking about it in the break, there's a couple of different
	ways of slicing this pie on our side and one of them is that, okay, don't worry about it,
	we can, you know, this is America, this is the engine of global economics, so we can
	grow our way out of this.
	Explain the enormity of the situation and why the, we can grow ourselves out of this, really doesn't cut it, Dave.
	Yeah.
	Well, if you follow the blogs out there, what we're in essence doing is we're calling going into debt economic growth.
	So I finally found a guy, and I'll post this at Brad Economics if people want to find it, but he took out the deficit spending from GDP growth.
	And he did this 10 years ago, right?
	So this is pre-politics.
	Pre all the, you know, Biden economy and all that, so no one can, you know, accuse you of being, you know, just a partisan here.
	But he took out the deficit spending back then, which was just $1 trillion a year, and it reduced GDP growth from roughly 1 or 2% to negative 8% when you take out the borrowing and the government spending.
	And so right now, the impact will be far worse than that.
	Right now, you're taking out $2 trillion, right?
	And we're growing it.
	Right now, the nominal growth is 6% this quarter.
	That's an anomaly.
	It's not real.
	But we're paying for it by going into debt to China.
	But how can growth ever be confused with more debt?
	I mean, that's like a shell game, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	Well, it is, except for the fact that when you go into debt from the kids, right?
	We're borrowing $2 trillion from the kids.
	And government spending counts as GDP in our national accounts, but GDP, the multiplier on government spending is negative, right?
	I mean, and this is, you know, I got pen, you pen papers on all this kind of thing.
	I'm not just making it up.
	And so that's the new thing we've never had, you know, is $7 trillion government spending, $2 trillion deficit spending, which is stimulative.
	That's why the economy is still going, right?
	And so they're handing out checks, and they're doing green deals.
	All that's going to come to an end for the kids.
	They got to pay off the debt.
	And you just kind of slid over something a moment ago.
	You said, oh, and the 6% thing, that's not real.
	Can you explain that?
	The GDP growth, right?
	And so that's the real economy is what you should be interested in, right?
	Everybody's looking at the stock market.
	But the real economy is your capital.
	Capital stock, you know, the machines we have to make stuff, and then human capital and technological growth.
	And China right now has $100 trillion in capital they're working with, and we only have $70 trillion in capital.
	So it's clear our economy is slowing down.
	It's been slowing down for 70 years in a row.
	The Office of Management and Budget and CBO both have us growing.
	Right now we're growing at, you know, maybe one and a half or two.
	But they have us in 10 years growing at 1.5% because they know the trend lines.
	And that's very optimistic.
	They made all of those forecasts before they knew we were going to be $50 trillion in debt in 10 years.
	And so in 10 years, guess what the interest on the debt is?
	5% of $50 trillion is $2.5 trillion.
	That's just interest on the debt in one year.
	I'm no economist, but call me old-fashioned if you want, but gross domestic product to me is something that You produce, which does not include government spending.
	I don't know.
	Maybe I just speak real English.
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	Because that seems like such a con that the government spending is part of production.
	Yeah.
	That happened back under Keynesian economics after World War II.
	The system of national accounts, the macro economy is roughly made up of C plus I plus G plus net exports.
	Consumption, which is huge right now, everyone's maxed out on their credit cards.
	Business investment, which is small, that's what really causes growth.
	Government spending counts as GDP.
	So if you build a bridge to nowhere and it never even ends up getting built, but you spend a trillion dollars on it, it doesn't add to productivity, that counts as GDP growth, right?
	And so that's a problem.
	Cut fourth and pillow.
	Alright.
	So, you know Johnson and you like him?
	Yeah, I know him and I like him, but we'll see how strong he can stand.
	He's going to be up against a lot of pressure and he's not used to that yet.
	Right.
	It's got to be a thankless job.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He won't see his kids for another few years.
	Are you surprised that he kind of came out of nowhere?
	Oh, yeah.
	That's why he won.
	The press didn't even have a half day to nuke him.
	They would have nuked him.
	All that stuff he did on the election and pro-life and oh my word.
	He's articulate and has a sense of humor.
	Oh, they'd hate him.
	Yeah, he looks like a solid guy.
	I just don't know if he's a fighter.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we'll see.
	I know.
	I know.
	You just got to hold him to his word in public.
	Right.
	And then read the don't bear false witness thing and make him feel guilty.
	That's a good idea.
	Right.
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	Don't bear false witness.
	Mike, here's what you said.
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	Professor Brandt, could it really be that simple that, as Bernie Marcus says, that we You know, forget the politicians and politics.
	We just need businessmen like President Trump to just fix things based on the real world.
	You can't build massive towers and golf courses and complexes unless you're in the real world and you understand business.
	Could it be that simple?
	I think it is that simple because I still respect my elders.
	And boy, when Bernie Marcus talks after having the life he's lived, I listen to every word that guy says.
	And everything he said and he wrote today, I found to be absolutely true.
	And that's what's missing, too, is the truth of the matter.
	He put it about as eloquently as you can.
	All right, so let's look at a realistic, a reality-based solution.
	What do we do with tens of trillions of dollars worth of debt?
	You know what it's like to serve on Capitol Hill.
	You know what the sausage machine is like.
	So give us a way out.
	Well, the way out is political, but economically, I'll just say you cannot grow your way out of this, right?
	If the folks come along that say, you know, you can just grow your way out of here, enhance productivity a little bit.
	Again, I got a chart I'll post up there, but back 10 years ago, a few economists at one of the free market groups showed you would have had to have grown at 7% a year to grow yourself out of the debt problem we had over 10 years ago.
	Now the problem is twice as bad, right?
	Instead of the spending we had 10 years ago, we now have a COVID economy spending with way higher deficits, $2 trillion instead of $1 trillion.
	So now I would estimate, just back of the envelope, you'd have to grow at 10% to 12% to grow your way out of it.
	And I'll just cite a couple other item so people know how grave a situation we're in.
	In order to cut just $4 trillion, here's what you'd have to give up in terms of tax increases, right?
	So the flip side, the liberal guys say, hey, we just raise taxes.
	Well, here's the taxes.
	You'd have to raise the top income tax from $37 to $45, raise capital gains, raise the estate tax, minimum tax 45% for those with more than a million bucks, and raise corporate taxes from $21 to $28.
	That's a lot of taxes.
	And all those tax creases would never get passed, but they would only raise you $4 trillion out of the $50 trillion we need.
	So it'd be better just to cut the spending.
	And our guys need to get to the microphone and say that.
	We've got 30 seconds left.
	You used a phrase, a very important phrase, this COVID economics.
	How badly has the COVID billions distorted the market?
	Yeah, well, it distorted it.
	When I was in Congress, the budget was less than $5 trillion.
	Now it's $7 trillion.
	So we threw $2 trillion at it, never waste an emergency, never waste a crisis.
	So the left jumps in and our guys go along.
	McCarthy and McHenry went up there and okayed a $7 trillion COVID economy after COVID's done.
	All it's doing is producing inflation, so your eggs and meat and everything sky high.
	And not only that, we know how this money is doled out.
	It's doled out to your political buddies as well, so the whole economy is distorted.
	Find out more on Getter at brateconomics, brateconomicsandliberty.edu.
	So much more to discuss.
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	We can't grow our way out of this one.
	Thank you.
	Out of this one.
	So I came in with the Manamana song because the cut sheet says if Biden is out of White House, this country is dead.
	I think the word not was left out there.
	It's good.
	No, the music was fine.
	The music was fine.
	Can you play me 12 and 13 again?
	12.
	John, the first true undrafted player in history, off of the draft to win the final, win that final MVP trophy.
	And 13.
	Just one promise.
	Don't get the filled up Eagles, we'll leave and go.
	Don't get the what?
	What is he saying?
	Cause I'll get divorced if that happens.
	The Eagles.
	Just one promise.
	Oh yeah.
	Don't get the filled up Eagles, we'll leave and go.
	Cause I'll get divorced if that happens.
	I married a Philly girl, and it's a long story.
	That's a hockey team he's talking to.
	Yeah, I know, but I can't even understand what he's saying.
	He said, don't get the Philadelphia Eagles to move, which I don't even know what that has to do with anything.
	Still Joe and Dan?
	Yeah, yeah, and Matt.
	And Matt.
	I just sang the last one.
	I just sang it.
	Okay.
	I'm gonna... Okay, I'll go to the calls and then I might do cut nine.
	Calls first, maybe cut 9.
	And maybe cut 14.
	Maybe 14.
	All righty.
	Kirby.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	All right.
	Oh, I did cruise already, so I'm going to do PhD here.
	PhD at the top.
	All right.
	Actually, come in with 14.
	I'm gonna ask Jeff about it.
	Come in with 14 Kirby.
	All right.
	So, I think the nation, to some degree, is a very good example of what we're doing. We're
	doing the right thing. So, I think the nation, to some degree, is wondering, what is President
	Is he waiting for Americans to be killed before he takes substantive action that will actually give Iran pause about telling his proxies to keep harassing us?
	We're not waiting for anything, John, as you just saw over the weekend.
	We're certainly willing and able to take retaliatory strikes to protect our troops and our facilities, and we'll continue to do that.
	These groups and the IRGC, the Supreme Leader, they have a choice to make.
	We're not looking to escalate, but if they continue to attack our troops, if they continue to put their lives in danger, we'll continue to take action and do what we have to do to protect that.
	Nobody's looking for a conflict here.
	Nobody's looking for a war with Iran.
	What happened there?
	Hey Jeff, that's like John Roberts, who's always super nice.
	He got angry that Biden isn't rescuing our hostages.
	What happened there?
	I know, it was nice to see him at one time, but how many times is Kirby gonna say he doesn't want a conflict or he's not trying to start a war, too?
	Did you hear his answer?
	I know, it's pathetic, but what do you think's happening that John Roberts actually got angry on screen?
	I guess you gotta do it every now and then.
	Well, I like it.
	I like it.
	I mean, Fox isn't salvageable, but I like that.
	I like the cut of that man's jib, at least for that one segment.
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	First up, Los Angeles, Joe!
	Joe!
	Dan!
	Line two.
	Sebastian, great to talk to you.
	September 1970, I was a freshman at Whittier College and they gave us the book, Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl.
	We had to read it during orientation week.
	Fabulous book.
	I've read it four or five times.
	Explain why it's so special.
	Dan Bongino keeps mentioning it as one of the most important books you could read.
	What effect did it have on you?
	I did not know definitively about the Holocaust.
	And Frankel in the second half of the book talks about, well, the title of his book,
	Man's Search for Meaning.
	And this incredible image of us having to realize what our life is all about.
	And now I hear what was the title of the book?
	Um, what?
	the fellow Mark Levine the other day say, who'd have thought that in our lifetime,
	Jewish rabbis will have to carry guns in the United States.
	This is an outrage.
	This is an absolute outrage.
	Yeah, not just rabbis, but also the Jewish community.
	It totally is, and the fact that it's happening here in America.
	In the meantime, what is the mainstream lying legacy media doing?
	They're doing this.
	This is Joe Scarborough.
	Perhaps one of the most offensive things he's ever done.
	Cut 11.
	I think he should probably pay some royalties to Mussolini's family trust, because when he starts talking about rooting out communists, Marxists, radical left, vermin, destroying the country, he's lifting it from Mussolini and other fascists from the past.
	Yeah.
	And from the Third Reich.
	And using the 1930s as an example of anything is a fraught enterprise.
	So this is... John, it used to be.
	It used to be.
	I think we can, at this point, with what he has shown us, it's not so fraught anymore.
	Mussolini?
	Really?
	You don't even know who Mussolini is, do you, Scarborough?
	You don't even know that he was a socialist.
	Yeah, he was an editor on the leading socialist newspaper in Italy.
	He invented fascism, but he's a man of the left because fascism is an ideology of the left.
	Which party in America is actually targeting its rivals using the organs of the state.
	President Trump was called a dictator, incessantly, for years!
	Who did he target?
	Who did he have arrested?
	Who did he use the CIA, the FBI, and the NSA and the IRS to spy on?
	No one.
	No one.
	Unlike you and your friends in today's FBI.
	They spent two years hunting down one man, One man for January the 6th?
	The January 6th investigation is the largest investigation in the FBI's history.
	Over what?
	Was it investigating Ashley Babbitt being murdered by Capitol Police officer?
	You guys are scum.
	Let's go to Matt, our good buddy.
	Welcome, Matt.
	Hello Sebastian, how you been doing lately?
	Good, I've been on the road a lot, California, for a couple of events with our listeners.
	Now I'm here in Florida.
	It's been busy, busy, busy, but we've got a republic to save.
	Very good, sir.
	I agree with your last call to a point, but my favorite book is your War for America's Soul, THE War for America's Soul.
	And I have a quick funny story.
	Thank you for your mug, the Trump mug.
	Oh, you're welcome.
	You've got 30 seconds.
	Tell us your story, my friend.
	Very quickly, yes.
	It takes less than that.
	I was outside taking my Trump flag, thank you for that too, down due to impending high winds.
	And I went to the mailbox and I'm prying this box out of there.
	And here comes my friend pulling up.
	And Ed said, Matt, what are you doing in that mailbox?
	Looks like they're fighting with it.
	I said, no, no.
	Pull over in the yard.
	You're going to see this.
	You're going to love it.
	He said, who sent this to you?
	I said, Sebastian Gorka, former advisor to President Trump in the White House.
	He said, oh, wow, that's cool.
	I heard you on the radio.
	I said, well, it's his show?
	I said, and he said, I don't remember.
	I said, well, 3 to 5 p.m.
	on our market, listen to Sebastian Gorka.
	You'll learn something.
	I love it.
	Absolutely.
	Wrestling with your mailbox because you're getting a gift from us.
	Thank you for the kind words.
	If you want a copy of the book that he has said is his favorite book right now, just go to SebGorkerStore.com.
	It's The War for America's Soul.
	And sadly, more relevant than ever is the book that propelled me to the White House, which is Defeating Jihad.
	Thank you, Matt.
	That's SebGorkaStore.com.
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	Um, what do you just got nine?
	What is Cut 9?
	Haley.
	It's 24 seconds.
	Um, I might.
	What else is... Kirby, Marcus... Played Trump.
	We played... Oh, the two short Biden cuts.
	The hockey.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Um... Played Trump.
	Hey, is Geetha... He's here.
	Can you zoom out on this camera or not?
	I am not able to actually, because I'm not really sure what type of camera he's using.
	It's the same as ours, it's a telemetrics.
	I'll ask John tomorrow to make sure how to properly operate on this part.
	Okay, good.
	All right, yeah, I'll use the Heli-cup.
	Oh boy.
	Taking bets.
	I mean, that's the way it is.
	It'll be down to, like, the four of them, I think, by the time the primaries start.
	Hayley, DeSantis, Ramaswamy, Christy.
	Not Burgum?
	Burgum... I don't see why Burgum would stay in any longer, unless he just wants to keep throwing away his own money.
	We'll see, we'll see.
	I like Burgum, but he just has no business running.
	He's just boring.
	Yeah.
	First place in your hearts.
	America first with Dr. G.
	Yes, indeed, and we are broadcasting to you from the MobileReliefFactory.com studios at our buddy studio AM 930, the answer, AM 860, FM 93.7.
	And I haven't even mentioned, well, I mentioned it once, I think, in the last hour, We are having the Great American Cigar Tour tonight at the Corona Cigar Company.
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	But in the meantime, let's have some gaslighting from somebody who thinks she's going to be the next president of the United States.
	This is Haley, I love John Brennan, cut nine.
	We're going to be strong in Iowa, we're going to be strong in New Hampshire, we're going to be strong in South Carolina because we spent our money well.
	We've got great ground games in every one of those states, and we're going to keep surging.
	You've got Trump that's flatlined, you've got DeSantis that's falling at polls, and we continue to go up.
	We've had a great last debate.
	We raised a million dollars in 24 hours past the debate.
	Jeff, is Jeff there?
	I know you're miles away in the swamp.
	Is Jeff there?
	I'm here.
	What does that mean, flatlining?
	If you're the candidate at 9%, and the guy at the top is at like 55%, what is he talking about, Jeff?
	Well, he has flatlined around 60.
	He's not really above 60%.
	That seems like that's his number right now.
	But so what if you're at 9?
	It's just a different way, I think, to spin it.
	Instead of saying, I'm losing by 50 points.
	Oh, right.
	Yeah, that would be a little bit embarrassing.
	Eric, do you think anybody's buying this?
	You know, because she is losing by 50 points.
	I don't know.
	I mean, Fox seems to be going more all-in on her at this point over to Santas, so maybe that particular segment of conservative media goes in on it.
	Oh, you think Fox has realized the writing's on the wall for Mr. Lifts?
	I think so, yeah.
	I think they've decided that the new flavor of the month is no more cowboy boots, it's girl power now.
	And Jeff, how long before these people just hang up their boots with their lifts?
	I think it's going to be when they run out of money.
	Just keep looking at the money on hand because no big donor is going to keep giving money anymore.
	I don't think.
	And how important is it when somebody like Bernie Marcus says it's got to be President Trump?
	That was a great interview.
	If you watch the whole thing too, he spent three minutes just trashing Biden and he was almost astonished at how bad of a job Biden is doing.
	Like he couldn't even believe how bad he's doing.
	Tell our buddy, John, to post the whole video so all our friends can catch up with it.
	Make sure you're following us on all social media where we put all the posts.
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	Where did those two hours go?
	That's insane.
	And of course, it's Monday.
	It's the third hour.
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	you Welcome, dear friends, to the Manhood Hour with somebody who has lived a very extraordinary life.
	Not many people can say that they are separately an MD, but also a former Marine, because there's no such thing as an ex-Marine.
	He's somebody I'm delighted to have campaigned for him.
	Dr. Cordy Williams, welcome to the Manhood Hour.
	It's an honor to be here, Seb.
	And, you know, from one man to another, In this beta world we currently live in, it's great to have gentlemen like you that have what I call testicular fortitude.
	So honored to be on.
	Yes, I use that phrase very often because my wife doesn't like the other phrase I use on radio.
	Okay, for those who have missed your interviews on America First before, give us a little bit of a potted history of how Dr. Cordy Williams came to be, what his career path has been, and how you got involved in politics, Dr. Cordy.
	Well, you know, Seb, at the age of 17, I didn't know what I wanted to do or where I was going to go.
	And, you know, my SAT and ACT scores weren't that great.
	So it kind of came from kind of a strange family structure, like many people.
	And one of the things my dad always got right was those heroes you had on in your intro, that beautiful intro that your team did.
	Um, you know, like John Wayne, he had me watching John Wayne.
	He had me just edifying heroes like the Marine Corps.
	And so I always grew up just idolizing Marines.
	Um, you know, we stood for the flag.
	Uh, we stood for the national anthem.
	Uh, we just really had those kind of old American values.
	And so at 17, um, I signed on, you know, I signed on the dotted line, went into, uh, went in, became a United States Marine and went to Paris Island in 1998.
	I got out in 2002 after doing four years.
	And one thing would lead to another, end up getting an economics degree.
	And I start working with bodies and learning about biomechanics
	as I was doing some physical training and developed this fascial release technique
	that led me into working with some NFL athletes.
	And the guy I worked with, a guy by the name of Dr. Michael Hatrack, known as the Miracle Man in the NFL.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Is that a real name?
	Hatrack?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And he's a good old Italian guy from Cherry Hill, New Jersey.
	And he's been my friend for probably A good 10 to 12 years, and he's one of the probably most influential figures I've had.
	A true man, diehard Republican, diehard Trump guy, and just, you know, got me into chiropractic.
	You skipped over your time in the Corps very quickly.
	Tell us a little bit about what you did with the Devil Dogs, Cordy.
	Yeah, so I spent two years in Quantico, Virginia.
	You're a little familiar with that place, and I say that sarcastically.
	And, uh, lived in Woodbridge, Virginia.
	And when I was there, I was doing supply and admin stuff.
	And if you know anything about Quantico, um, you start to get epicondylitis, which is a condition of the elbow.
	Cause you're, cause you're saluting all the time and, uh, you know, it's an officer's paradise.
	Um, but if you're an enlisted Marine, um, you know, it's a great place to go to school.
	I got to do that while I was in, but it's not the real Marine Corps.
	So after two years there, I went to Camp Schwab, Okinawa, Japan.
	I was there with 4th Marines, 3rd Recon.
	I wasn't a Jason Bourne guy, but I got to work with a lot of guys that were that cool.
	And they toughened me up because, you know, in the Marine Corps, if you're not an infantry guy, they call you a POG, a person other than grunt.
	So on the Marine Corps birthday a couple of nights ago, Seb, I was out with a bunch of infantry guys, and I was wearing an Under Armour vest, and this is how hard they are.
	They thrash you.
	And they're like, oh, OK, I got my stockbroker.
	Oh, this is an investor guy.
	Don't you look cute?
	That's the type of guys you're around when you're around really true, toxic masculinity at its finest.
	Just epic heroes and studs.
	And I got to serve with them.
	For about two years when I was in 3rd Mardiv, the 3rd Marine Corps Division.
	So I spent, as you know, I spent two and a half years in Q-Town teaching at the base in Quantico.
	And then finally I managed to wrangle an invite out to brief the Marines also out in Okinawa.
	Man, I was shocked.
	Japan is humid.
	I thought it was bad in Virginia in the summer, but Japan, it's pretty hot, my friend.
	No, we would PT at 4.30 a.m.
	and you would still have a soaked t-shirt within 30 minutes.
	I mean, and that's at like 4.30 a.m.
	by, you know, by 9.30, 10 o'clock in the morning, you know, forget about it.
	I mean, you're completely drenched.
	And so you had to really hydrate over there for sure.
	And then tell me about your journey into chiropractic.
	I have been a huge fan of this since I had a very bad accident, not very bad, a bad accident that kind of bent my spine, gave me a scoliosis in my teens when I was doing judo.
	And then I was like a guinea pig for the British School of Osteopathy where they'd like, You know, wrench my back and articulate it and manipulate it.
	I swear by it.
	If it's, you know, if it's the physical manipulation, less interested in the instruments.
	But tell me how you found the passion for this kind of medicine.
	Was it this person?
	Was it the kind of relief it provides?
	Give us the reason why this kind of medicine.
	Yeah, and Seb, besides smoking cigars again, I'm going to have to adjust.
	You've got to make this happen.
	Um, you know, I think that, um, it's for me, I was searching, hated, I want to be an MD and I, there are great MDs out there.
	I think it's a great profession, but I just, um, to me, I never really agreed with the over, you know, prescribing of, of, of pharmaceuticals.
	You know, I think we have a huge problem there, um, in the world.
	I think there's a time and a place for pharmaceuticals, of course.
	Right.
	Like, I loved Ivermectin during the COVID scam.
	I thought it was amazing, right?
	Antiviral drug for 60 years.
	But I looked around, I knew I didn't want to be an MD.
	I'd been on antidepressant, anti-anxiety meds for years.
	And I really had a falling out when I got tapered off of those drugs on not a proper schedule or less than proper.
	And, you know, I had convulsions for five days.
	I was throwing up.
	severe bouts of actually threatening to kill myself because of the side effects of these medications.
	And so I kind of just started looking around, and I said, there's got to be another way to get to the cause of this depression and anxiety.
	And I read a book at the time called A Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren, and was just praying to God for an answer, because I am a Christian, and I do have a biblical center there.
	And, you know, I just Found God connecting me to chiropractor after chiropractor, and within three months, I really felt, this is going to sound crazy to some people out there, I was getting adjusted at this bone called the atlas or brain stem, and just really felt this renewed vigor for life, and I've been off antidepressant, anti-anxiety meds for over 15 years.
	And so that really did it.
	And then, obviously, my interaction with Dr. Hattrack really kind of sealed the deal on, hey, I gotta go to chiropractic school.
	And at the time, I was working in Alpharetta with Dr. Hattrack, and the best and biggest school, Life University, was only 45 minutes away, so it was kind of a no-brainer.
	And is it fair to say, I mean, I know there's various schools, there's the Gonstead, there's the Applied, but is it fair to say that this approach to medicine looks at the human being as more of a totality, as a system, as opposed to just the problem of the day that needs to be fixed?
	Is that a fair comparison or contrast?
	Yeah, no, no.
	And actually, what's really cool, they have a section You know, there's 300 techniques in chiropractic, to your point, 75,000 chiropractors in the world, and you know, the old school that I came from is called principal chiropractic, where it's that your brain sends signals down your spinal cord and out to every cell tissue and organ, and we actually call that an ADIO, or above-down, inside-out philosophy.
	So healing comes from the inside.
	It doesn't mean we don't believe in tests.
	It doesn't mean that we don't get tests from medical doctors or we don't talk to medical doctors.
	It just means that we feel like less is more.
	For example, people are going to think this is crazy, but I'm a black sheep for all sorts of reasons.
	I got a cowboy hat on my tundra.
	I played George Strait music.
	Then I do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, and I got a Glock and an AR-15 at home.
	But then my wife can tell you how many chemicals are in the bedsheets we sleep on, right?
	We had our kids born at home.
	We chose not to vaccinate them.
	They've never had a medication.
	They've never been to a medical doctor.
	And they've been adjusted at their brainstem since day one.
	And that's just the road that we took.
	That's not for everybody.
	No, but as COVID taught us, it should be our decision with the medical professionals we trust.
	It shouldn't be fiat from on down.
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	It is the manhood hour.
	Dr. Williams, Cordy, before we move on to the question of who influenced you in your understanding of what it means to be a true man, Let's talk a little bit about the manliest of men.
	Look, I probably get in trouble every time I say this, because I've worked with every branch, every service, the Coast Guards, Navy, Air Force.
	I still am affiliated with the Green Berets at the Kew School in the qualification class at the JFK School.
	But the Marines are very close to my heart, not just because of the two and a half years I spent in Quantico, but because They have an attitude, and I'll describe it, I'll give an example, then you'll help me unpack what's special about the Marines.
	So I've been teaching for five and a half years as a DoD civilian at the top of the, what's called the JPME system, the Joint Professional Military Education System, that's National Defense University, where the 05s, the 06s, the full bird colonels, and the one stars go.
	If they're going to be anybody, if they want to be the next, you know, big shot general, they have to come through Fort McNair.
	Then I got my chair at Quantico, where I was the chair of military theory.
	And I walk into that first class court, and it was maybe 15, 16 guys in the syndicate, all 05s, 06s.
	And I may have been the endowed chair of military theory, but they pushed back within 30 seconds of me opening my—everything was super respectful.
	You know, everything was, you know, polite.
	But they said, well, what about this?
	And what about that?
	And they were just different.
	They had an attitude.
	Explain to our listeners why the Marines are just that little bit different.
	Well, you know, I think it starts from from the time you get to Parris Island or MCRT San Diego.
	You know, there's just there's a history in the Marine Corps.
	You know, there's there's and you're taught that history and you memorize it.
	And there's this what they call a spree to core and this this this ethos about the Marine Corps.
	I mean, like I'm an emotional guy.
	So I have to be careful because every time I talk about, you know, the Marines, I think back to that day where, you know, some snotty nose kid who's 18 years old from Alabama.
	gets his Eagle Globe and Anchor. There's just this honor that not just...
	Explain Globe and Anchor for people who don't understand the Globe and Anchor.
	Yeah, so it's been the symbol of the Marine Corps. It is on any, you know, air, land and sea,
	you know, first to fight, the first that can be there.
	Um, you know, we don't, you know, an old expression is, and I love my army guys.
	My uncle was in the army.
	My grandfather was in world war two.
	My uncle was in Vietnam.
	Uh, but you know, our old joke and they have jokes about us that we'd like to eat crayons, you know, stuff like that.
	But, you know, the big joke was the army setting up a hotel to go to war and the Marines have already taken, The initiative, right?
	That's one of those, that's one of those jokes.
	And I love my army guys, so I don't want to get hate mail.
	But, you know, the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor is just that Marine Corps emblem that signifies that we can be anywhere, anytime.
	And it's been around for, you know, over 150 years since the inception of the Marine Corps, which we just had our birthday, November 10th, 1775, Ton Tavern, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
	And that's when the Marine Corps became the Marine Corps.
	And of course, as you say, the only service to be founded in a pub.
	Yeah, that's probably part of the craziness.
	That's why we're certifiably insane, they say, Seb, right?
	Because we're the only branch to be started in a pub.
	And how strong is that brotherhood even years after you leave?
	How tight is that brotherhood of Devil Dogs?
	Well, it's not only tight after you leave, but it goes national and international.
	For example, you know, I went out the other night and I thought it was going to be one hour and then I was going to be home.
	Of course, that didn't happen.
	You know, we went out about nine, I think maybe nine o'clock and I didn't get home.
	And my wife knows this till three thirty on the night of the Marine Corps birthday.
	And there were 15 guys from my friend Chris's unit.
	And he was in probably five years after me.
	And we go into this, in Suffolk County, New York, we go into this bar and it's all Marines.
	I'm getting introduced right and left.
	You know, they found out what I did, how I ran for U.S.
	Senate and all that.
	Instant friends.
	Like, I probably made five friends.
	And anybody that's a Marine, after you meet them, if they can do you a solid or a favor, they're all about it.
	There's just, there's a unity that was far bigger than any college fraternity.
	I'm within the Marine Corps because it's an eternal blood unity, in my opinion.
	And have you heard from your friends who are still in or recently separated of the influence of wokeism in the Corps?
	Because I've seen it at Brad, Cordy, and it's not good.
	Yeah, you know, I've my friend, Colonel Jeffrey A. Powers, that he actually wrote the letter probably about five years ago, got about 70 million views when Kaepernick started doing all the kneeling craziness.
	He's still got some Marines in that served under him and our first sergeants and sergeant majors.
	Believe it or not, all my friends, James St.
	Ledger, Darnell Richardson, you know, these guys ascended to sergeant major, first sergeant.
	They're retired and they're and they're out.
	But the colonel told me, you know, it's very clear that, you know, they were doing these these stress cards.
	I think that's gone away with but you know, they're there.
	They've fallen succumbed.
	I mean, I just had my own office Marine come in four years ago.
	I think it was 2015 2016, maybe even 2017 Marine came in that was a sergeant.
	And he was getting, you know, the sex change deal.
	And I'm ashamed to say, and, and, you know, we were, we were funding it.
	We were paying for it until Trump canceled that.
	And so it's definitely going there.
	I think it's lagging behind the other branches, but we got to get 45 back in because we need some testicular 42 back in all the branches.
	It's up to us to make sure 45 becomes 47.
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	You mentioned already that you ran for the Senate out of California.
	Perhaps this had something to do with it.
	Give us your take as a former military man, as a medical professional, as somebody who has political aspirations.
	How bad is the assault on traditional concepts of manhood and masculinity in America today, Cody?
	Well, I think we've taken God completely out of the picture, and you can see that in every form of society.
	I mean, you know, on the very left side of things, you have these involuntary celibates, these betas, these incels, these people living with their parents in the basement, and not that there's anything
	wrong with that, but there's this entitlement generation.
	And then on the right, the very far right, we have somebody like Andrew Tate.
	And I'm not saying I don't agree with everything that Andrew Tate says, but he's certainly
	— he's masculinity, but what about honoring women?
	What about values of treating people a certain way?
	There's so much I agree with with Andrew Tate.
	Yeah, but how about not abusing and pimping women?
	Yeah.
	Which is what he has admitted to doing.
	Yeah.
	And that's why you've got these two polar extremes, right?
	And in the center, who's that figure that we can line up with?
	Well, the Ten Commandments, Jesus.
	I mean, it's very clear in Genesis 4.
	where we read what the Bible says about sin, that sin is at the door waiting to master us, master you, right?
	And in that verse, in that chapter, it talks about Cain and Abel.
	It talks about Abel's jealousy towards Cain.
	And you know, I just feel like the Bible is such a framework.
	Not that we're going to do it perfect, not that we're not going to sin, but everything you need to get as a man comes from the Bible and it should be passed down from your father.
	But the problem is there are so many fatherless homes out there.
	I saw a study, I think 67% of those incarcerated found, the study found that they were raised without a father.
	OK, and you know, you look at stats like that that are staggering, and it's eye-opening that these fatherless homes need fathers.
	Otherwise, we're going to produce betas.
	And what do you think is the most important source of that assault?
	Is it the media?
	Is it the high schools?
	Is it social media?
	Where is the epic, you know, to use a military term, where's the center of gravity of this assault on, you know, classical concepts of masculinity?
	I think honestly, I think it's part of the communist Marxist construct.
	And I think it's a globalist agenda.
	And now, of course, yeah, I mean, to your point, the Department of Education is doling it out.
	You're seeing the media support it.
	And it's kind of like when politics gets watered down.
	It's like, you know, that scumbag Kevin McCarthy, when you water down politically, so many decisions and you and you become this, I'll just say this rug that everybody tramples on politically.
	You know, anytime you water down anything that you're trying to do any subject matter, any topic, Pretty soon, you can't go left or right.
	There's nowhere else to go.
	And I think that's really what we've seen with what's happening in society.
	And you're seeing kids react accordingly, where there's this expectation.
	I mean, in my house, we talk about leadership all the time.
	My son, at seven years old, knows that I'm going to talk about the E-word, which is earn it.
	And he starts throwing a fit.
	And then I say to him, honor thy what?
	And he goes, honor thy father and thy mother.
	And he puts his head down, right?
	And then he either decides to do what I'm asking him to do or he goes to timeout and he gets stuff taken away.
	Could you imagine having Dr. Cordy Williams as your father?
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	Yeah, I would say for sure my grandfather and my uncle, and almost got choked up thinking about that.
	than your father it was others. Who were the most important influences on your understanding of what it means to be a
	man. Yeah I would say for sure. My grandfather and my uncle and almost
	got choked up thinking about that. My my grandfather already the
	maze served in World War Two.
	He fought in Okinawa.
	He saw combat.
	You know, he had a veteran's burial.
	Died of cancer when I was 12.
	I served him his last meal.
	Epic, epic human being, but he would open door for ladies.
	He was the guy that would stand up when a woman came to the table.
	Really taught me manners.
	And then his son, my uncle, Audie Mays, was a lieutenant colonel in the Army.
	On the Silver Star in Vietnam.
	And he was a hard man.
	He was a hard man.
	Taught me a lot of really, really tough lessons.
	Explain, unpack that, because you can say somebody's a hard man and people will say, oh, that's negative.
	You know, what, what, what?
	Explain what you mean by hard man.
	Yeah, well, um, complete and total accountability and no excuses.
	And, and I, you know, I think when he was Really probably hours away from taking his last breath and leaving the planet.
	I unfortunately couldn't get there to see that.
	And I was texting my aunt because he couldn't talk at that point.
	And, you know, they knew that I would get all bent out of shape if I saw him visually.
	So, you know, I said, tell Uncle Lottie thanks for making me a man.
	And he smiled.
	So part of those Part of those lessons were, you know, like I remember, we were at a really nice golf club.
	We were having dinner, you know, shirt and tie type of deal.
	And my brother and I were probably 10 or 11 or 12.
	And our dad was really absent with teaching us anything about etiquette.
	My aunt Mimi taught me that.
	My mother taught me that.
	And then my uncle and grandfather taught me that.
	And an older woman above the age of 75 came to the table.
	And as she got introduced to us, we stayed seated.
	We did not stand up.
	Yeah, we did not stand up.
	And that was the wrong thing to do.
	And we got a tongue lashing like, you know, like a boot private would get in boot camp, like a drill instructor would give you a pair of silence.
	And we were in tears at the end of the tongue lashing.
	But we stood up for the for the rest of our lives.
	And still to this day, if I'm even shaking a man's hand, and somebody tells me to stay seated, I'm standing up no matter what.
	And so, yeah, so just lessons like that that were invaluable on really teaching me what it is to really move forward, be a lion, and take territory for God and country.
	I like that.
	Take territory for God and country.
	Give us some other adjectives.
	Give us some more descriptors of your grandfather, your uncle.
	So beyond hard, give us some more words to help explain what it means to be a man in your family.
	Yeah, well, they had animals, and when an animal died, you know, they were the person that was in tears.
	They were kind to animals.
	They had this nurturing, loving side.
	They weren't afraid to, you know, kiss and hug.
	You know, they weren't afraid to be silly and let their, you know, childlike figures come out.
	I mean, with my uncle and my grandfather, you know, we used to watch the real cartoons, Bugs Bunny and Road Runner and all that, Warner Brothers, you know, not all this crazy stuff they have today.
	And, you know, they take us to the fair, take us to movies.
	And so that's what I mean by these polarizing opposites.
	You know, it's almost, you know, to go back to a reference earlier, you look at this Andrew Tate figure.
	He's not standing up at a dinner table.
	He's not even teaching kids that.
	And that's what we got to get back to.
	And I think that only happens if there's God in the picture.
	And that was certainly there with my grandfather.
	It was certainly there with my grandfather.
	He went to church every Sunday.
	He wore a certain tie to church.
	We were in his old pickup truck with no AC.
	And it's not that he didn't have the money.
	He just didn't replace.
	The AC and I'm in a full three-piece suit sweating in the Alabama sun going to church, but he's like, we're wearing suits.
	And yeah, you know, it's that's the type of man he was.
	He was a man of conviction and honor.
	And in order to replicate those values in your son, or to try and take back masculinity across America, what kinds of things do we have to put on that curriculum for young men?
	I think you said your son is seven, so if we're planning out a curriculum for 10-year-olds, for 12-year-old boys, what is the non-negotiables that we have to teach them, Cordy?
	Well, I think definitely the Ten Commandments.
	And I think, you know, praying and showing, I think that, you know, you can teach a child anything, but I think the way you live your life, and if you try to live your life and having grace for them, holding them accountable, holding yourself accountable.
	But one of the greatest things I learned early on, just as a father is, you know, apologizing.
	Like I make mistakes when I get it wrong.
	I'm not afraid.
	Um, to tell my kids that I got it wrong and that that was a bad call.
	And I think that vulnerability is so important.
	You know, I always tell my kids too, you know, when daddy's mad at you, is he mad at you a long time or a short time?
	A short time.
	Cause when my, when my biological father was mad at my brother and I, you know, we would think that we were just You know, damned forever for the entire day.
	There was no coming back for vulnerability.
	I think corrections have to be done in a loving way.
	You know, like, you know, when I used to spank my kids, you know, I would tell them what the offense was.
	We would pray after and they would get a correction, not to hurt them, but to teach them.
	But there was lessons on both sides of that.
	And the Bible talks very clearly about that.
	But I think other, you know, there's lots of good resources out there.
	The Tuttle Twins.
	I think have excellent products for kids.
	I think Kirk Cameron's coming out with some great stuff.
	I think those constitutional values are so important as well.
	Yeah.
	The anger needs to be controlled and it has to be constructive and never let it fest or never let the child think that you're sitting on it and that you have condemned them.
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	We'll wrap up with the last question.
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	Dr. Cordy Williams, you've been on the show because of this crazy thing you decided to do, which is run for the Senate out of California.
	Why?
	You're serving this nation every day by helping people get better.
	You serve this nation in uniform as a Marine.
	Explain the manly logic of why you decided to become political.
	Well, you know, when COVID happened and, uh, you know, they started to shut down businesses and, you know, do the facial apparatuses and forces to get jabbed.
	Um, you know, my wife and I took to the streets cause we thought we were going to lose our business.
	And, um, I talked down some riot gear police.
	It got about 22 million views and we hit the road and, uh, we were talking about constitutional values.
	And I'd always said for two years, the two years that we were doing that, that, um, we all had to step up.
	And put our money where our mouth was, and if we wanted to be the change, we needed to be the change that we wanted to see by getting involved.
	And so I really stepped into the fight because, like every American, I just thought if I didn't, who would?
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	Tell us what your plans are, Dr. Williams.
	Well actually, we're in the process of launching an initiative called Operation Z with General Flynn.
	You can go to opznow.com and basically that initiative is to push back against this transgender narrative, this narrative of You know, where they're trying to capture the minds of these 13 to 25 year olds, everything we talked about on this hour together, Seb.
	And what we want to do is get 20 influencers to just really talk about godly American values.
	And we feel like if we get people their age talking to them and counteracting what a sleepy, creepy Uncle Hairsmith and Joe is doing, that they'll start to see, they'll start to have some common sense when November of 2024 comes in.
	Alex Stone, a young 19-year-old influencer, came to me with this idea.
	He's the founder of it.
	And he got Roger Stone and General Flynn on board and then asked me to get on board.
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