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	We've got out of control inflation, violent crime, an open border, a rising China.
	Biden and the left have failed over and over again and they know it and you know it and it is time for a change.
	That is why tonight I am so proud to endorse my former boss, my friend, and everybody's favorite president, Donald J. Trump.
	The great Governor of Arkansas, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, my former colleague from the White House, former Press Secretary to President Trump, with such a beaming smile on her face yesterday in Hialeah, Florida, with some counter-programming from the boss.
	During the GOP primary debate endorsing President Trump for the 47th presidency of the United States.
	Welcome dear friends, I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	So much to discuss with you today.
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	But let's get down to business.
	Eric, yesterday, primary debate.
	What do you think?
	Your verdict?
	I tuned in halfway through, and they were just talking foreign policy non-stop.
	Yes.
	From Israel to Russia to Taiwan and China, and then even Venezuela, and at a certain point I'm thinking, okay, these issues are important, but is this a GOP debate or a UN meeting?
	Can we please talk about issues here at home, please?
	That was my first thought.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And Jeff, your verdict last night?
	They don't know how to talk to the average Republican voter.
	The Taiwan thing is what set it off for me.
	Right, right.
	Policy debates on Taiwan, really?
	That's what people are going to decide upon as to whether you are presidential material.
	However, there were some zingers.
	Vivek Ramaswamy, never a shy individual, had something to say after the election results on Tuesday, regarding her record in the last eight years.
	Let's listen to Vivek, Rhymes Like Cake, Ramaswami.
	Cut five!
	Let's speak the truth.
	I mean, since Ronna McDaniel took over as chairwoman of the RNC in 2017, we have lost 2018, 2020, 2022, no red wave that never came.
	We got trounced last night in 2023.
	And I think that we have to have accountability in our party.
	For that matter, Ron, if you want to come on stage tonight, you want to look the GOP voters in the eye and tell them you resign, I will turn over my, yield my time to you.
	Well, she didn't.
	She should.
	How many years?
	Is nine years of failure going to be enough?
	Ten years?
	Or eleven years of failure?
	From 2017 to today.
	But it seems like there are no consequences in the establishment GOP.
	Likewise, in the establishment press.
	This was at the beginning.
	Sadly, our Salem colleague, Hugh Hewitt, who was meant to be one of the moderators, We're allowed to speak till well into the debate.
	So at the beginning, Vivek took aim not just at the establishment GOP and Rona Romney McDaniel, but at NBC as well, specifically for what they've been spewing for the last seven years.
	And you know who I am.
	I'm a supporter of President Trump, my former boss, and if we do our part, the future 47th President of the United States, God willing.
	Yeah, Vivek brought his full force to bear on the hack fake journalists at NBC cut sex.
	Think about who's moderating this debate.
	This should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and Elon Musk.
	We'd have ten times the viewership, asking questions that GOP primary voters actually care about, and bringing more people into our party.
	Do you think the Democrats would actually hire Greg Gutfeld to host a Democratic debate?
	They wouldn't do it.
	And so the fact of the matter is, I mean, Chris, I'm going to use this time, because this is actually about you in the media, and the corrupt media establishment, ask you the Trump-Russia collusion hoax that you pushed on this network for years.
	Was that real, or was that Hillary Clinton made up disinformation?
	Answer the question.
	Go.
	This is how we get our country back.
	We need accountability because this media rigged the 2016 election, they rigged the 2020 election with the Hunter Biden laptop story, and they're going to rig this election.
	Your time is up.
	Let me turn to Governor Christie.
	And Christine Welker just grins like the Joker from Batman.
	Has nothing to say.
	Jeff, why on earth would the GOP, why would the RNC give NBC the co-hosting rights for a presidential debate?
	Tough one for me.
	I don't get it either.
	And people have been talking about this forever, that it should be somebody like Breitbart should do it, somebody else.
	But I don't get why they always do this.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He kept on.
	Let's have one more cut from Vivek.
	Kind of, it's an infradig concerning neoconservative mores from the former UN ambassador Nikki Haley.
	This is cut seven.
	The fact of the matter is, the Republican Party is not that much better.
	You have the likes of Nikki Haley, who stepped down from her time at the UN.
	Bankrupt or in debt was her family.
	Then she becomes a military contractor, she joins the board of Boeing and otherwise, and is now a multi-millionaire.
	So I think that that's wrong when Republicans do it or Democrats do it.
	That's the choice we face.
	Do you want a leader from a different generation who's going to put this country first?
	Or do you want Dick Cheney in three-inch heels?
	In which case, we've got two of them on stage now.
	Nick Cheney hit three-inch heels, and what was her response?
	A strange response, unless you're in some kind of Marvel movie where high heels are some kind of espionage weapon.
	This is Ambassador Haley's response to Vivek Ramaswamy.
	Cut nine.
	Given attacks by Iranian-backed proxy groups on U.S.
	military bases in Syria and Iraq, attacks that have wounded approximately two dozen of our U.S.
	servicemen, do you support the use of military force by the United States against Iran?
	Governor Haley, would you please answer that?
	Yes, I'd first like to say there's five-inch heels, and I don't wear them unless you can run in them.
	The second thing that I will say is I wear heels, they're not for a fashion statement, they're for ammunition.
	I'm sorry, that's pathetic.
	So somebody's asking you about Iran and you have to like, you have to fight back at Vivek.
	You're just not serious.
	All right, we've got a Matt Boyle up next, but I want to squeeze in a quick call from Rami of Rockville.
	Line one.
	You're up.
	Rami!
	Hi!
	Yes, you've got 60 seconds.
	Hit me.
	Your beacon of light in this darkest day, Dr. Gorka.
	Thank you.
	I wanted to say that the Christian community and peace and freedom loving Americans need to wake up.
	We can't have our country taken over by fanatic Muslim terrorists and ignorant college students.
	Americans need to come out in force in every city to fight evil, show support for Israel,
	and demand to free the hostages.
	You and the other talk show hosts are doing the work of the Almighty God.
	Well, that's far too kind, Rami.
	We need to stand with Israel.
	We are one civilization.
	It is the Judeo-Christian civilization.
	Stay on the line, Rami.
	It's one of our most popular items today.
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	Stay on the line.
	God bless you for your very kind words.
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	We'll be back in a moment.
	Thanks for watching.
	Bye.
	Bye.
	you you
	you hot on rumble yeah yeah it's fine uh the the i'm not going
	to reveal any like inside info or something like our classified information about this but
	info or something, or classified information about this, but the point is that I talked to
	the point is that i talked to someone today about it and they were like look if the rnc is
	someone today about it, and they were like, look, if the RNC is controlling the process and
	controlling the process and having one debate Yeah, yeah, it's fine. I'm not going to reveal any inside
	having one debate a month, they're slow walking it. If not, then they would just go
	out and do random, unsanctioned debates on all the networks, and the networks would gladly
	do that with them all. Right?
	That would get nasty and gnarly. So in other words, they're just kind of having the process
	peter out on its own and control it on its way down. Right?
	So I guess there's an argument to be made that that's a good thing that they're doing that.
	And the next one they're doing is being hosted by News Nation, which I don't know how to
	find News Nation on my television.
	Right? I don't think anybody out there does.
	I do. That's where Fredo is.
	Yeah, that's Fredo.
	Yeah, I guess that's where Fredo is, right?
	But I've never put that channel on, ever, once, right?
	And then it's in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, which is like two or three hours from the nearest airport.
	So, like, the national media's gonna have to make it like a week-long event for them to travel to go cover it and stuff.
	In other words, there's an argument to be made that this is a good thing.
	I think they should just wrap it up and not do it anymore, but I guess I see the argument the other way, because if they came out and announced they weren't going to do it anymore, then DeSantis and Haley and all of them...
	Vivek and Christie and Ada and Bergham and all the rest of them will go off and go do their own debates
	Right like with the establishment media and CNN all of a sudden will come out of nowhere and host a debate and they'll
	all go on Right, like it'll be an embarrassment. There'll be another
	one every night. So I guess I see the argument So, all right. Well, we can unpack that Eric. Will you come
	in with the president?
	19 come in with 19. The other thing is it's almost over as far as like the Iowa caucus in two months
	But yeah, Thanksgiving and New Year's people are checked out of politics. Yep, right
	Yeah, so they do one in early December, they might do another one in early January, but then the Iowa caucuses are January 15th, and then assuming Trump wins the caucuses, that's it.
	They're not doing another one.
	Then New Hampshire's late January, I think.
	I think it's like eight days later.
	Bernie Marcus just endorsed Trump.
	Yes, and Joe Manchin just announced he's not running for re-election.
	But his first line was, he has the best chance to win in the general.
	That's the DeSantis line.
	What did he say?
	He said that Trump has the best chance to win in the general election.
	Interesting.
	And yeah, Joe Manchin's not running for re-election.
	Yep, yep, yep.
	Ten seconds.
	There's a lot of news today.
	I'm going to be doing a video on the news.
	With breaking news, here's Sebastian Gorka.
	All right, it's a double header, double whammy, West Virginia.
	That's right, Manchin's West Virginia, Eric, am I right?
	Correct.
	Joe Manchin, the man who likes to talk to environmentalist protesters from the back of his yacht, is not seeking re-election for the state of West Virginia.
	And Jeff, you also had some very fresh breaking news.
	Would you like to add?
	Yes, Bernie Marcus has endorsed Donald Trump for president.
	That's big, right?
	Yes, it is.
	I mean, we're a year out.
	He's a super rich guy.
	That's big.
	Well, you had to combat the Kim Reynolds endorsement.
	Who?
	The Kim Reynolds endorsement, the one that was going to change Iowa.
	But who's Kim Reynolds?
	She's the governor of wildly popular governor in Iowa.
	That's what the Iowa radio host says all the time.
	You mean the local radio host?
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's a game changer.
	And who did she endorse?
	DeSantis.
	Who cares?
	I don't know.
	Talk to the Santas people.
	This is big.
	Yeah, I know what really matters and it's not that.
	Let's give you a little bit of counter-programming from my former boss yesterday in Florida.
	Far more entertaining than the GOP primary debate.
	Just talking the truth about the last three years in America.
	President Trump cut 19.
	Inflation is called a country buster.
	You can go back 300 years and you can see why some great empires failed.
	Many of them failed because of the word inflation.
	You look at Germany, old day Germany, and you look at so many other countries.
	Inflation is a country buster, and it's busting our country right now, where bacon is five times more expensive than it was just a short while ago.
	Bacon!
	Even I say I don't want any bacon, it's too expensive.
	But we're gonna get it under control and we're gonna do it fast because we're gonna have so much energy and the prices are gonna come down and everything else is gonna follow.
	Yep.
	It's the hidden tax.
	It's inflation.
	And if you're an average American, you know exactly what President Trump is talking about.
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	All right, what really happened last night?
	Does it really matter?
	Let's talk to the man who knows.
	He is the Washington Bureau Chief of the conservative juggernaut that is Breitbart.com.
	Matt Boyle, welcome back to America First.
	Dr. G, always a pleasure.
	Great to be here.
	So we were kind of, you know, just noodling in the break, you and I, back and forth.
	Let's do it in front of three and a half million people.
	Why is the RNC holding debates, Matt?
	Well look, I think they're trying to control the process, right?
	So that's kind of important.
	I disagree with their strategy.
	I think they should just come out and say no more debates.
	However, because we know what's going to happen right now.
	By the way, the clip you just played of President Trump, you didn't hear any of the candidates talking about that last night.
	No!
	What are the questions about that?
	Right, that's what everybody in the average America is talking about right now, is the cost of stuff going up and the inflation.
	It's like they maybe roundabout, I think, got to the economy like 90 minutes into the debate or something last night.
	When they weren't talking about Taiwanese national security policy.
	Yeah, by the way, important stuff, don't get me wrong, like, we need to figure out how we're gonna combat the Chinese Communist Party, right?
	But like, I mean, come on, where were the kitchen table issues right up front, right?
	Like, it was like, so America last in terms of that debate, like, it was all foreign policy, it was like, you know, which countries are we gonna talk about next before we talk about America, right?
	Like, and it's like, You know, you're running for president of America, right?
	Like you want to be the president of the United States?
	Then you need to talk about what matters to Americans.
	And you don't see that from these other people.
	So look, at the end of the day, I guess they're controlling the process because if they weren't
	doing the RNC-controlled debates, right?
	Like once a month or so, and they've only had three so far.
	They've got a fourth one scheduled.
	It's in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, which is like, you know, great place by the way.
	Tuscaloosa rocks.
	And so does Alabama, uh, the whole state of Alabama.
	I love the people there.
	Been there many times, but the, um, it's so far from an airport that it's a, it's a bit of a hike for the national media to go.
	They can't just drop in that afternoon.
	Take an Uber over to the debate venue and fly out that night or the next morning.
	They actually would have to commit to spending like three or four days to go cover the debate.
	And then the debates on NewsNation.
	On what?
	Exactly.
	NewsNation?
	NewsNation, right?
	It's apparently some new channel.
	Is that some local high school radio or what is that?
	Fredo Cuomo's new network after he got pushed out of CNN, right?
	Like, so, Fredo is over there.
	So, the point is that, like, again, it's just, okay, fine, right?
	Like, so they're gonna do that.
	They can all have their little, you know, counseling session on there where Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis and Vivek... By the way, I do think Vivek did, like, pretty good, pretty well last night.
	I liked a lot of what he had to say on a lot of things.
	His closing statement, I thought, was very Andrew Breitbart-esque.
	What about commenting about Nikki Haley's daughter?
	throughout this debate all about these foreign wars. Well we're in a war here at
	home for the heart and soul of what kind of country we're gonna have. So I thought
	that was pretty good but... What about commenting about Nikki Haley's daughter?
	Was that appropriate Matt? Yeah like I don't think it was out of line at all.
	I thought that... Now, look, I thought Nikki's response was also fiery and good for her for fighting back and doing her thing, but the point is that how is it out of line to say that she's a hypocrite on this, right?
	She's lecturing the whole country.
	about Tick Tock, again, whatever you think about Tick Tock and whether you want to ban it or you
	don't want to ban it, whatever. The point is that if you're out there advocating for this as a
	presidential candidate and a public policy leader and somebody that's out there, you know, steering
	the debate in that direction, how can you do that when your own family members are using it? I don't
	care if they're an adult or a child or whatever. The fact is, is that, you know, maybe she should
	look inside her house first and see what she's using Tick Tock rather than trying to tell other people
	what to do. So I thought that was totally fine. But you don't think kids should be out of bounds
	in political debate? I don't. I...
	I don't think so.
	I think it shows a hypocrisy on her part, right?
	So it depends.
	It depends on the situation, right?
	So sometimes maybe, sometimes not.
	But if kids are out of bounds in political debates, then why are we breaking the rules when we talk about Hunter Biden, right?
	Like, come on, right?
	Like, that's ridiculous, right?
	Like, no, kids shouldn't be out of bounds on political debates, and you know darn well they're going to use Trump's kids against him, right?
	Like, and they do it all the time.
	So no, the idea that, and she's a grown woman, right?
	She's 25 years old.
	She's 25 years old, yeah.
	In case you missed it, guys, it was perhaps the spiciest moment of the debate last night, Vivek Ramaswamy, who had been criticized earlier by Nikki Haley in a prior debate for going on TikTok, the Chinese-owned social media platform, well, he punched back saying, well, your daughter is using TikTok.
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	Joe Biden with Ducey, cut 14.
	So come in with 8, and then we shall tee up 14.
	Alrighty, title for that monologue, and also for Chris.
	Yeah, for the monologue... What was the thrust of the monologue?
	The pointlessness of the debate, I guess?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Could the GOP primary be more pointless?
	And then for Chris, a forgotten gem.
	Trump should moderate the next debate, not participate.
	That's such a great idea.
	What do you think, Matt?
	That's such a great idea.
	He could frame it as vice president tryouts.
	Or cabinet tryouts.
	Or lower than cabinet.
	I don't even know if DeSantis is qualified to be a cabinet official at this point.
	I don't know.
	He'd be anonymous.
	He'd do the same as that guy.
	You'd leak everything on him and...
	Oh yeah.
	I think a Joe Rogan forum would be pretty awesome, but I don't think it'll happen.
	He doesn't know how to run a debate.
	No, but Tucker does.
	Yeah, Tucker could.
	No, a real debate, though, with a Republican and Democrat, because they both kind of used to be libs in the middle.
	I would love to hear questions like that.
	But what do you mean?
	The real debate, instead of some stupid NBC thing.
	But who's the Democrat?
	You mean Rogan?
	Yeah, I mean, no.
	Musk used to be at Lib.
	Now he's coming around to run a debate.
	Did you guys listen to Musk launching his campaign, DeSantis' campaign with him?
	Yes!
	He can't control a conversation.
	Look, he's a brilliant guy, don't get me wrong.
	No, but he's not a verbal guy.
	He's not a verbal guy.
	It would be worse than the Fox News debates.
	The one thing I will give NBC credit for, I do think they had control of the conversation last night.
	It didn't True.
	But don't you think that's to their credit, or don't you think that they behave themselves a little bit better?
	I think it's a little bit of both, probably.
	So I think it's a little bit of both.
	They deliberately wouldn't go to people to let them respond in the moment, right?
	Did you notice that?
	That they had to wait until their next question to respond to an attack?
	And so in so doing, they were able to more control the flow of the conversation a little bit more.
	But I mean, that's not that hard, right?
	But again, I don't think that Elon or Rogan would be able to do that in a debate, right?
	Tucker would.
	Tucker knows what he's doing on this kind of thing, right?
	And Rogan wouldn't want to anyway.
	Yeah, but that's the thing, is that Rogan has other talents, so does Elon, right?
	And they're not the bait moderator types.
	But on that point, Vivek is right about, like, how are you letting these Russia hoaxers up here to do this, like, you know?
	So, and it was brilliant the way he asked you the question.
	Oh, and her reaction... The way you're on her for a minute, right?
	Her reaction, that crap-eating grin.
	Yeah.
	It's just embarrassing.
	No, they should do this way more often.
	Republicans should totally do this.
	You said it was like, um...
	Andrew at the end.
	That was Andrew at the beginning.
	Yes.
	He was throwing it in their faces.
	Yes, yes, exactly.
	No, that was pure Andrew.
	Yes.
	And again, hearing the audience just constantly go wild for Nikki Haley.
	It's true what Trump said back in 2016.
	Those are all like the Dorners and like, you know, people who are given tickets by the campaigns to be in the audience.
	That's why, you know, they're playing tribal politics.
	Coming in with Cody.
	Thanks.
	Well, I want to laugh at why Nikki Haley didn't answer your question, which is about looking at families in the eye.
	In the last debate, she made fun of me for actually joining TikTok while her own daughter was actually using the app for a long time.
	So you might want to take care of your family first.
	Leave my daughter out of your voice.
	The next generation of Americans are using it.
	And that's actually the point.
	You have her supporters propping her up.
	That's fine.
	Here's the truth.
	You're just dumb.
	Here's the truth.
	What was the truth?
	What was the conclusion we came to last night?
	I'm going to ask the boring question from our buddy, but we have to ask it.
	Who won?
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	Um, Matt, you're a pretty objective observer, and especially since President Trump wasn't on the platform yesterday.
	Was there a clear winner and a clear loser from the debate?
	The winner was Donald Trump.
	Like, I mean, of the candidates on the stage, I would say probably Vivek.
	Uh, the, the, the, um, uh, by the way, I mean, Nikki Will Smith, uh, Haley, right?
	Like, I mean, she had a few good lines, like, don't get me wrong.
	She had some good one-liners throughout the night.
	But I mean, it's just like Vivek was the only one up there that was really, throughout the
	course of the evening, literally from that opening question all the way through his closing
	statement at every moment throughout the night, whenever the camera would turn to him, that
	like he was captivating the audience.
	And he was really speaking directly to the Republican voters out there across the country,
	whereas the rest of them I felt like they were trying to cringe their way through and
	survive to the other end of the stage, right?
	Like, and maybe look for a moment or two with a good one-liner.
	Whereas Vivek was like, I mean, on his answers on Israel, I mean, his answers on Ukraine,
	I mean, all of this stuff was really well thought through, serious policy stuff.
	And I think he came prepared.
	I think he came out the winner of the people that were on the stage.
	And what about Tim Scott?
	I think he's got to be the next one to drop, don't you?
	I think he's probably, him and Christie probably are the candidates.
	But he didn't make any impression.
	I mean, he just didn't make any impression.
	It's like he wasn't there.
	Yeah, but I do think that Tim, you know, I don't know.
	I think that he's got a lot of money, right?
	So his campaign does have a lot of money, especially a lot that he brought over from his Senate campaign.
	So I don't know.
	We'll see what happens.
	I don't want to make any predictions about who's the next to drop or not.
	It's interesting.
	He's being so canny.
	Jeff, have you ever heard Matt Boyle being so cautious on our show?
	There's something to it.
	Is that because he's thinking of running for Congress?
	He's got some big interview with Tim Scott in the pipeline.
	He's running for a seat in South Carolina.
	We'll find out.
	We won't pressurize him.
	We get it, Matt.
	Let's turn to the other side of the aisle.
	Here's one of your journalistic colleagues, Steve Doocy, who Has the temerity to ask the current incumbent about multiple swing state polls that see President Trump crushing Joe Biden.
	This is a delicious clip.
	Let's play this for you, Matt.
	Cut 14.
	Why do you think it is that you're trailing Trump in all these swing state polls?
	Because you don't read the polls often, Jim.
	There are 10 polls.
	Eight of them, I'm beating them in those states.
	Eight of them.
	You guys only do two.
	CNN and New York Times.
	Check it out.
	Check it out.
	We'll get you a copy of all those polls.
	You don't believe you're trailing in battleground states?
	No, I don't.
	So that has the smell of desperation to me, Matt.
	Look, take it from experience.
	When you're telling people to not believe the polls, you're in a really tough position, right?
	Look, President Trump was in this very similar position in 2016-2020 where he had to go out there and tell people not to believe the polls.
	Sometimes the polls are wrong, right?
	That, I guess, Biden has in his favor.
	But the fact is that, first off, there aren't 8 in 10 polls that are showing Biden leading in all these places.
	All the polls are showing him trailing in Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania.
	He's trailing in most polls in Michigan and Wisconsin.
	The fact is that he's in a really seriously bad position right now when polled against President Trump.
	You know, maybe the polls are wrong, right?
	And that would be a shocker and good for Joe, but I don't necessarily think that's the case, because usually when the polls are wrong, they're wrong one way and one way only, if you catch my drift.
	Oh, we do.
	We catch your drift, and we catch it every day at Breitbart.com.
	Make sure you have bookmarked their website for the most Influential, conservative news site out there.
	And follow our buddy at Real Matt Boyle on Truth Social.
	Amazing analysis.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	All right, back to Israel, and so excited to talk to my good friend, former White House colleague, former senior foreign policy advisor, strategist to the Vice President, and former publisher of the Jerusalem Post, Tom Rose.
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	and the Patriots Alaska cruise. I'm so excited I've never been to Alaska.
	All right back to Israel and so excited to talk to my good friend, former White
	House colleague, former senior foreign policy advisor, strategist to the vice
	president and former publisher of the Jerusalem Post, Tom Rose. It's been too
	long. Welcome back to America First. Well thank you so much for having me.
	It's great to be back as always.
	So, first things first, we were talking in the break some exciting news.
	What's happening in Washington, D.C., the nation's capital, on Tuesday?
	On Tuesday, November the 14th, we, namely the American Jewish community and all of our friends across the country, will be attempting to replicate, only in a positive way, our support for the State of Israel, for its fight against Hamas, for Western values, for the good guys in the war of Civilization Against Barbarism, a mass rally in Washington on the Mall, sponsored collectively by the Jewish Federations of North America.
	Just as we've seen, Sebastian, in Israel, this remarkable unity across party lines.
	I think we're seeing that now in the United States as well.
	So I'm back from Israel and we'll be joining hopefully many, many thousands in Washington on Tuesday.
	All right.
	Let's talk about one of the most shocking stories as a former publisher of the Jerusalem Post.
	We need it to be verified, but I think we have the headline.
	Let's put it up on the screen, Eric.
	This is from honestreporting.com.
	Photographers without borders.
	Apparently AP Reuters has pictures of Hamas atrocities based upon their photographer Tom being embedded with the terrorists prior to October 7th and who knew what was going to happen.
	Would you react to this news that if verified is unconscionable?
	It goes beyond the AP and Reuters, CNN, the New York Times, too many mainstream global media organizations have stringers or freelancers, Sebastian, that not only had advanced information of the October 7 massacre, Pogrom, but they participated in it in a way that just defies the conscience and imagination. They knew about
	it in advance. They were with those who committed these massacres and atrocities. They were filming.
	There's a picture of a CNN correspondent, a stringer, a photographer rather, being kissed by Yahya
	Sinwar, who is the military head of Hamas and just proclaimed by Prime Minister Netanyahu as a dead
	man walking in.
	It is now official Israeli policy that Sinua, wherever he is, will be hunted down and killed.
	He's the mastermind of what happened on the 7th of October.
	You know, it's remarkable because Israeli journalists and American journalists and foreign journalists that are based inside Israel, when they heard about the attacks, they raced down And they actually dropped their pretense of being reporters and tried to help people, tried to help victims.
	But this is just, it's outrageous.
	It's unbelievable.
	And there's got to be tremendous pressure now that's placed on these media organizations to vet who it is that they're hiring for freelance and stringer positions.
	Yeah, absolutely shocking.
	And I've just posted a video at the top of my Twitter feed of, I think it's an Israeli journalist, who is filming inside a Gazan school where they're stockpiling weapons for Hamas, Tom.
	This is the truth about this part of the world, isn't it?
	No.
	It's so awful, and we are so complicit.
	Ever since you and I, unfortunately, left the White House as a result of the 2020 election, President Biden reversed all the great things that you and President Trump had done vis-a-vis cracking down on This horrible extremism, this ideology of death.
	As you remember, we cut all funding to UNRWA and to the PA.
	Biden, one of his very first acts was to restore it all.
	So we're spending now about $800 million a year supporting the PA and UNRWA, which is an adjunct of Hamas.
	It's unbelievable.
	Absolutely unbelievable.
	But that's the way it is with this president and this administration.
	I think it was a former senator from Illinois, Tom, called Obama, who said elections have consequences.
	The quote-unquote election of 2020 has had disastrous consequences, not just for Americans, but for our friends in the Middle East, correct?
	Oh boy, has it ever.
	I mean, I hate to be in a position of having to congratulate or commend anything that President Obama said, but he's absolutely right and it's all the more important that we get it right next year in 2024.
	One of the good guys who every day restored my faith in humanity inside the White House, former publisher of the Jerusalem Post and strategist to the Vice President of the United States.
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	Oh, Jen, yeah, um... There are two Republican parties now.
	And then for Tom, um... Journalists Complicit with Hamas.
	And Matt.
	And Matt, do we need primary debates?
	Will you play 12, please?
	Twelve... Yep.
	Oh!
	Playback one, please, Alex.
	Folks want to push for a two-state, go for it.
	But guess what?
	Guess what?
	Netanyahu's current government is not supporting that.
	He's literally said it to us over and over again.
	He doesn't want to coexist with Palestinians.
	And we're saying, no, we're going to have a peaceful, a peaceful coexistence and pushing against those that want to target people solely based on the fact they're Palestinian or if there's a different faith.
	And again, that's what my city that I grew up in taught me.
	It's a push against that kind of racism, that kind of discrimination, and that kind of, again, call for elimination.
	I'll use the words he said, cleanse Gaza.
	Yeah, cleansing, scumbags.
	Want to comment on something?
	No, straight to...
	Is the United States becoming a police state?
	Dinesh D'Souza's new movie, Police State, answers that question.
	It's his timeliest and most eye-opening film yet.
	Watch it today at salemnow.com.
	It's kind of really surprised me, but in a good way.
	We noodled for about a week or so, I think it was, on what our next item should be, how we can support Israel.
	And we took the photograph of President Trump, the only president to go to the temple wall in Jerusalem as president, and we put it on a t-shirt.
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	Victor.
	Hey Sebastian.
	Hey.
	This is Ronnie McDaniels.
	Is she the niece of Mitt Rodney?
	Yes.
	I thought so.
	No wonder why we lose all the time.
	Get rid of her!
	Yeah, the same Mitt Romney who said this unbelievably.
	This is Mitt Romney in the Senate, cut 16.
	You have to have an IRS.
	You have to have enough agents to be able to audit people and make sure they're paying their taxes.
	Anything other than that is nuts.
	Look, there's a quote by HL Mencken that I think applies here.
	He said, you know, to every complex problem there's an answer which is simple, clear, and wrong.
	And the idea that we should not have IRS agents and that that's going to somehow help us balance the budget is simply wrong.
	What a scumbag.
	Nobody's saying not to have IRS agents.
	But 87,000 extra ones?
	You cretinous moron.
	I can't get rid of you fast enough.
	Let's go to Antoinette.
	Line three.
	Hey, Dr. G. Happy Thursday, I think.
	Is it?
	Hang on, hang on.
	Yes, you're right.
	It's Thursday.
	I didn't even remember.
	Listen, that's why I didn't call last Thursday, because I knew I was going to see you on Friday.
	You're so sneaky!
	There you are, I'm giving an address in California, and who do I spy in the audience?
	None other than Antoinette!
	It was such a lovely surprise to see you.
	Same here, Dr. G, and that is a different Republican Party organization there in California, as you mentioned.
	There are two Republican Parties, it's crazy!
	Yeah, no, it's so, so true, and we're going to have Jenny and other members from the California Republican Alliance who endorsed President Trump as their candidate the day after I spoke to them on Friday.
	That's why we had Bob France covering for me.
	Yeah, it's so good.
	I went to Monterey, I went to San Mateo, I went to CRA, and just the quality of patriots in California.
	There's something about being behind enemy lines People like you, Antoinette, whether you're finding, you know, a voice for the voiceless or whether it's our poet laureate of America First, Brent, whether it's Don, whether it's, you know, our buddy from the tall grass, you're just all such amazing patriots.
	God bless you all.
	Where did that hour go?
	That's crazy!
	So much more here on America First, wherever you are, whatever you're doing, don't go anywhere
	else because the Nash-D'Souza is next.
	Thanks.
	No matter how hateful or corrupt the communists and criminals were fighting against the president,
	or the people they were fighting against may be, you must never forget this nation
	does not belong to them.
	This nation belongs to you.
	It belongs to the people with us tonight.
	That's how we won.
	This is your home.
	This is your heritage.
	and our American liberty is your God-given right.
	How you gonna do it?
	Yeah, Mexico's not gonna fork over money.
	We're gonna impose fees on the remittances that foreign workers send to foreign countries.
	We'll raise billions of dollars.
	I'll build the wall.
	But we are going to designate the cartels to be foreign terrorist organizations or something similar to that.
	And we're going to authorize the use of deadly force.
	We're going to have maritime operations to interdict precursor chemicals going into Mexico.
	But I'll tell you this, if someone in the drug cartels is sneaking fentanyl across the border when I'm president, that's going to be the last thing they do.
	We're gonna shoot him stone cold dead.
	You You
	You to earn this nomination and also defend your record.
	I mean, he's running on, I saw the rally, a little bit of it, and it reminded me like, it's like deja vu all over again.
	You go back to 2016, he's saying a lot of the same things and promising a lot of the
	same things he didn't deliver on.
	And I think that's a great thing.
	you you
	you A man.
	A legend.
	A legal immigrant.
	Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	You know, I never went to school to study broadcasting.
	My first degree was Philosophy and Theology with the Jesuits.
	The old school, real conservative Jesuits.
	And then I did a Masters in International Relations and Diplomacy.
	Yeah, truly.
	And then a PhD in political science on the difference between political terrorism and religious terrorism.
	The difference specifically between the Irish Republican Army and Al-Qaeda.
	So I didn't go to journalism school.
	I didn't study broadcasting.
	I've just been listening to radio since I was a kid.
	I kind of pick it up as I go along, and I rely upon the expertise of those who really are the professionals, people like my producer, the best producer in radio, Mr. G. And Mr. G, I've got to ask you a professional question.
	Are you there?
	I'm here.
	You're working very intently.
	I saw you working very intently behind that computer screen.
	There's a fine balance to the mixture of topics I think you should talk about on radio.
	We've got a buddy, you know who he is, who every Monday does an update on what he did on the weekend.
	Kind of, you know, personal stuff of what he did.
	What do you think is the right balance?
	Because people are asking about, you know, a certain canine member of my family.
	How do you balance the political, the analytic, with the personal stuff?
	What's your take, Mr. G?
	I think people like the personal stuff, too.
	Especially when they listen to you every day, they feel like they know you.
	So they want to know the personal stuff, too.
	So I think it's a good mix.
	But not too much, right?
	It depends.
	I mean, something like this that's interesting, it is.
	I mean, if it's a big, huge news day, you don't do it.
	Right.
	Right, right, right, right, right.
	That makes sense.
	That makes sense.
	And you'd always tell me if I was doing it too much, right?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Eric, we can always rely upon the unvarnished truth from Mr. G, right?
	100%.
	That's why he's the best producer on the radio.
	Alright, good stuff.
	Was it in the Rumble chat, Eric, that somebody asked?
	Yes, that is correct.
	It was a Rumble user, username txbb.
	All right, TXBB asked about a certain four-legged friend of ours.
	We have two dogs in the Gorka household.
	We've always been big canine lovers for the last eight years.
	Our first hound has been Killian, a boy... Oh my gosh!
	God bless you, Eric!
	Thank you!
	That's Killian last week looking very... He looks like a wolf.
	He's about 95 pounds.
	He's a big boy.
	He's a Belgian Terhoeren and he's just the sweetest, sweetest soul.
	But when he gets angry, yeah, those burglars who try to burglarize us, I don't think they'll be doing that again in a hurry.
	And then we have our junior model, Leia, who's a female Terhoeren, a female Belgian shepherd.
	She's only four years old.
	And I've shared on social media that Killian has been limping and you want an update?
	We took him to, I didn't even know these existed, a veterinary oncologist this morning.
	So an expert vet on cancer and I'll just tell you what it is if you want to know.
	It looks like he may have osteosarcoma.
	We're going to do a biopsy probably next week that he may have cancer in his leg.
	Apparently osteosarcoma is very, very fast, rapid.
	They say a dog diagnosed with it maybe has a few months to live, unless you amputate the leg.
	I don't know if I want to do that to Killian.
	You can maybe get another year or two maybe, but a three-legged dog, I don't know.
	So that's the update.
	Thank you for everyone asking.
	You always love when I post pictures of Killian and Leia online, but Not a good visit this morning, and we'll know more in a week.
	I'm listening to Jeff.
	We'll give you an update in a week when we know more.
	But thank you for all your kind thoughts.
	All right.
	I have lots of things to play for you.
	Lots of things I want to analyze.
	We've got the amazing Dinesh D'Souza next to talk about his new movie, Police State.
	But we've got people waiting patiently on the line.
	So let's go to Charlotte in Pittsburgh, line one.
	Hi, I wanted to also echo your first call about the Christians having to wake up.
	And one thing I do believe they misunderstand greatly is the word meek.
	When it was used in the early Bibles, which were written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, meek meant strength under control, like a war horse.
	The description of a war horse.
	It wasn't, you know, just being soft and take whatever other people want to dish out.
	So when you get slapped on one cheek and then you turn for the other cheek, that's exercising strength under control, which is what people do who can, you know, carry a gun or Yeah, it's not about being milquetoast.
	It's not about being quiet.
	under control or the Israelis when they were walking around with all their guns
	in defense. They weren't shooting people up, you know.
	Yeah, it's not about being milquetoast, it's not about being quiet, it's about
	controlling your strength and your power, correct?
	Yes, yes, exactly.
	And I think Christians have totally misunderstood that word, because the Norse changed the meaning of it, like 700 to 1200, you know, when the Normans were in England for the English Bible, etc., down the road.
	And they made him to be the milquetoast person.
	Well, and look, we just have to listen to the words of our Lord.
	I mean, you know, Jesus Christ, with the money changes in the temple, or when he said, sell everything you own and buy a sword.
	That's not, you know, milquetoast meekness, is it, Charlotte?
	No, it isn't.
	And in fact, when I read Jesus' words, I keep saying, how do people think he's Mr. Nice Guy?
	Because he was really sharp with his words.
	Oh, when he had to be sharp with his words, whether it's with the lady at the well, whether it's with the tax collectors, whether it's the Roman centurion, he didn't mince his words because what is the essence of our Lord and Savior?
	He is the way.
	He is the truth.
	He is the light.
	That's who he is.
	He didn't obfuscate.
	He told the truth because he is the truth.
	Thank you, Charlotte.
	I truly appreciate that.
	A wonderful call.
	Let's go to Rick in Phoenix, line four.
	Hi, Dr. G. Hey.
	You have a great show every day, but today has been especially outstanding.
	I have a comment I'd like to make about the debate.
	Well, yeah, before we get to that, I'm curious.
	I just wanted a little bit of polling, a little bit of research.
	What especially appealed to you about today so far?
	The interviews that you have done, especially with Matt Boyle, Uh, and then just some of your discussion with some of your callers has just been really, I think, really great.
	We love the callers.
	All right.
	Talk to us about yesterday's debate, Rick.
	Okay.
	First, I want to thank you.
	I got your Trump 2024 coffee mug.
	Good.
	Next time I go out to eat, I'm taking it with me.
	Every time I go out to eat in the future, I'm taking it with me so I can show it off and tell people where to get it and support President Trump.
	We love to hear that.
	Okay, good stuff.
	Carry on.
	Debate?
	Yeah.
	When Krispy Kreme said that he thought he should be president and Trump shouldn't be president because Trump needs to concentrate on staying out of jail, I think at that point, everyone on stage should have said, are you saying that you support the weaponization of the government against your political opponents?
	I don't, and I'm stepping down and supporting President Trump.
	You're so right.
	You're so right, Rick.
	I think it was my colleague and friend, Charlie Kirk, who said this maybe a month ago, maybe two months ago.
	Look, we believe in choice.
	This isn't a dictatorship.
	But the stakes are so monumental when the leader of the opposition, who's 50 points before anybody else, even his closest rival, when that man is facing 730 years in prison, there's a moral imperative.
	You just don't run against him.
	These are extraordinary times.
	Why?
	Because, Rick, here's my take.
	If you're running against him, You're tacitly acquiescing.
	You're agreeing to the weaponization of the DOJ against the Leader of the Opposition.
	I don't think there's any other moral way to look at it, Rick.
	Exactly.
	That is it.
	That is the point exactly, Dr. Gorka.
	Yeah, well thank you, Rick.
	It's a little bit tough to carry a ceramic mug everywhere with you, but we commend that action.
	Let's make it a little bit easier for him to travel with his hot or cold beverages.
	It's on my desk every single day.
	It is the America First Stay Frosty Tumblers.
	So stay on the line, Rick, and we'll send you one of those as well.
	What do you think, Gary?
	Do you think we should probably have a President Trump Tumblr as well, right?
	So people can carry their hot beverages.
	I think the mugshot of Trump would be perfect on a Tumblr.
	I think we may have to have a word with Randy, our merch maven.
	You've inspired us, Rick, an amazing caller, a very kind caller, because you hit the nail on the head.
	You know, the guy with the funny accent on the mic's not too bad, but it's the guests, and especially, it's the callers.
	And if you, like Rick, know the stakes, you should have the booking photograph, the mugshot, I hate that phrase.
	From Atlanta, on the yard sign, in your front yard, like it is at my house.
	Or you should have it on your t-shirt.
	Or you should have it on your mug, like he does.
	Get yours today.
	Tell the world who you are.
	Seb Gorka Store.
	Where did he go?
	We lost him.
	Rick, call back.
	We've got to get you on the line.
	We need your address for the Tumblr.
	SebGorkaStore.com.
	Open the lines.
	Let Rick call back.
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	Oh, okay.
	The mics are on, and we have them on the line.
	Okay.
	Oh, perfect, perfect, perfect.
	Right, I'm sending this to you.
	Yep.
	And... And the cut I have is 52 seconds long.
	It's the regular promo, right?
	From the trailer, yeah.
	Yeah, the trailer.
	Yeah.
	And was there a second cut as well?
	There was a slightly longer version of this.
	I remember you requesting a slightly shortened version where it ends with a guy shouting FBI.
	Okay, so you've got the shorter version?
	Yeah, this is the shorter one.
	The original was a little over a minute long.
	Alright, alright.
	I'll do PhD here, then I'll do the cruise.
	I'm gonna do the cruise in D. The cruise in D. Hey Dinesh!
	Hey Seb, how are you?
	Good, good, good, good.
	Wow, so much to discuss about the movie.
	So the DVDs are doing well?
	They're doing extremely well.
	And we're also being blocked at Walmart and Amazon, so my solution... Oh, we lost you.
	Dinesh?
	Let me stay on back.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Good to go.
	StillRPG at the top.
	90 seconds.
	We have them back.
	Oh, good.
	Sorry, we lost you.
	You were saying what?
	What's your strategy?
	No, I was saying that we are being blocked by Amazon and Walmart, so let's sell DVDs on Salem.
	Good, I love it.
	I had one issue.
	I want to promote this every week, and I need specific clips, like your interview in the church.
	How do I get specific clips?
	Who do I ask?
	Uh, you know what?
	Just, uh, Seb, just send them to me and I'll have, um, I'll have our guys pull them and send them to you.
	Okay, I'll send you the timestamps.
	There's like three different timestamps.
	Perfect.
	Okay.
	All right, 40 seconds.
	Let's do it.
	All righty.
	PhD the dope.
	And then cruise.
	Oh, Bill Mitchell's blocked me, Jeff.
	After all this time.
	Took him long enough.
	All right, I'm gonna do PhD and then I'm gonna tee up the promo then.
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	Are we becoming a police state?
	Government told American citizens they couldn't go to church on Sunday.
	For the first time in my life, I'm saying to myself, am I going to get a knock at the door?
	Come to the door!
	Come to the door now!
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	Who's the man responsible behind it?
	Along with our good buddy, Dan Bongino, of course, it's Dinesh D'Souza.
	Dinesh, welcome back to America First.
	Always great to be on, thanks.
	So how was it?
	I'm so jealous that I missed you, Dr. Lucas and Rachel.
	How was Mar-a-Lago?
	How was the premiere?
	You know, it was just a beautiful event.
	First of all, all these people dressed up to the T's,
	and the environment couldn't have been lovelier.
	Of course, what a great setting.
	And it's kind of ironic because you've got this wrenching film.
	It's emotionally wrenching.
	I mean, some people were in tears after by the closing scene,
	but nevertheless, there was that strange kind of, I'm happy to be here.
	I feel like I need to see this movie.
	All focus was on the film.
	And sometimes these events have little petty rivalries.
	Why was this guy invited and not that guy?
	We had none of that.
	It's just, everybody just seemed to realize we have a serious national problem here.
	In fact, international problem to some degree.
	And this is a film that puts the pieces together and sounds the national alarm.
	It is truly a wrenching movie.
	I watched it with my wife Katie last week.
	I think there'll be a premiere in D.C.
	soon.
	And it makes you angry.
	It makes you shocked.
	It makes you horrified that what we're witnessing is happening in America.
	There's one scene especially I'm going to... We've been discussing in the break.
	I'm going to get some clips from you and your team that I can use.
	Through the coming weeks to make sure everybody understands the weight of the movie Police State.
	But let's put this still up.
	This is an interview you did in a church in New York with an aged man who uses a cane to walk.
	This is perhaps the most sickening moment of the movie.
	Will you talk to us, Dinesh, about who that man is and what he went through?
	This is a 75-year-old guy named Joe Bolanos.
	He is a resident of New York.
	He's kind of a community guy, very involved with his apartment complex.
	And he's also a guy who likes to take video.
	So when he heard about what's going on, the big rally on January 6th, he's like, all right, I'm not a massive Trumpster, but it's going to be sort of an historical event.
	I'm going to take my video camera.
	I'm going to get all this footage and I'm going to come back and show it to my friends.
	So he goes down to D.C.
	He's quite taken by the sense of esprit de corps, of camaraderie, the patriots, the veterans.
	So he takes all this footage.
	He's drawn toward the Capitol after the speech, but the moment he sees people climbing on the rafters, climbing, he's like, no, I don't want to do any of that.
	So he turns around.
	He doesn't go inside the Capitol.
	He goes home.
	So he's in New York, he's at a local cafe, he rounds up some of his old buddies, he's showing them his video footage of January 6th, like this is really what happened, I was there.
	And a neighbor, I mean think of this Seb as a police state tactic, a neighbor spots them and calls the FBI, turns them in, becomes a kind of snitch or informant.
	And then the FBI plans two massive raids on this guy.
	One at his apartment, and the FBI evidently finds out that he's also looking after his old mother who's in a rehab center, so they plan a second raid on the mother's apartment.
	Now, this guy is a high-tech guy, and the FBI doesn't know that he has multiple cameras in the house.
	The FBI, you can see them on footage showing up to his apartment and they try to cover the door camera.
	Think about it.
	They don't want any record of what they did.
	Then a battering ram comes through the door.
	Let me just be clear.
	They take a piece of tape and they try and cover up the camera as if they have something to hide but they don't realize this elderly gentleman is a bit of a tech head and he's got multiple cameras in the corridor.
	Exactly.
	And so what we're doing here, Seb, is we're not recreating the incident.
	We have the actual footage of the FBI raid, and the footage is from inside the apartment.
	So it's almost like it puts the audience right there.
	You can see what this looks and feels like, and you realize it's like a war zone.
	You have military-style soldiers with armored vests, long weapons, battering rams.
	They come in through the door.
	They smash the door.
	They trash the entire apartment.
	Fortunately, this guy, Joe Bolanos, leaves the apartment exactly the way they trashed it.
	So we're able to show the place looks like Gaza, you know?
	Then they drag him down into an FBI van and interrogate the 75-year-old man for like five hours.
	So he's starting to feel weak.
	And then just as he's trying to regain his strength, NBC News shows up.
	So the FBI have tipped off the media so they can portray this guy as some kind of a domestic terrorist.
	And the implications of it hit him, and he has a stroke.
	He basically collapses, has to be taken to the hospital.
	He's now walking with a cane.
	So this is the brutalization of the ordinary citizen.
	And think about it, for what?
	This is not even a guy who set one foot inside the Capitol.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And when his voice cracks, And he just says, it's 40 minutes in, 38 minutes into the movie, remember that timestamp, he just says, I believe in the truth.
	I believe that if you're innocent in America, this doesn't happen to you.
	To have his mother's home raided, to have his own home raided, a man who literally did nothing, committed no crime on January 6th, and this is happening in America.
	We're going to talk to Dinesh, about what's happening to the film and what the establishment is trying to do to it.
	In the first instance, you've got to go to PoliceStateFilm.net.
	That's PoliceStateFilm.net.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Yeah, my son So...
	In the rumble chat, Jules15, who became a monthly supporter yesterday at the end of yesterday's stream, thank you so much for that, says, quote, that man made me cry so hard when I saw the movie.
	Yeah, it's, it's... That, that was the most powerful, I loved all the stuff with, um, Nick Searcy, he did an amazing job, but your interview, uh, of the, uh, gentleman in the church, and then at the end with, what was she, she was, uh, HHS, is that right, HHS?
	Yeah, she's in Terra Rodis as an HHS whistleblower.
	Right, right.
	We'll talk about her as well.
	But first, let's talk about the DVDs.
	Oh, that's good.
	All right.
	There we go.
	Jeff, Tom Rose.
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	What?
	Next week?
	Yeah, he's going to be here on Tuesday for the march when I'm not here.
	I already thought about that.
	All right, so you saw everything should be good in Sarasota, Geoff, right?
	He says yeah.
	He's switching out his headset because he's making that buzzing sound.
	All right.
	I'm so impressed, not only that they came, but they posted photographs of themselves when Dr. Lucas and Rachel came.
	I'm I know, it's lovely to have them, really.
	Did you see their response?
	Some moron gave them grief on Instagram and she punched back.
	Oh, you know, I did not see that.
	I'll tell Debbie to look for it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Some idiot says, oh, I can't believe you went to that election deniers event.
	And she said, uh, we work with everyone and we support all Americans.
	Good, good.
	Wow.
	Yeah, she looked great.
	She looked great.
	Yeah, we had never met Rachel and she's our kind of nutritionist counsellor as well.
	No, she's ours.
	She's for me and Katie.
	Is she your counsellor as well?
	Yeah, she is.
	Yeah.
	Tough lady.
	She is.
	So was it in the ballroom at like 2000 Mules?
	Exactly the same venue.
	We were a little smaller because of course what it is is we had a bunch of Catherine and Greg's people at the last event.
	Right.
	So we had that crowd.
	So subtracting those guys, we had about 400.
	It was a perfect size.
	But it looked like a beautiful day.
	The weather looked amazing.
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	We are back with film producer, author extraordinaire, my colleague here at Salem, Dinesh D'Souza, host of the Dinesh D'Souza podcast with his lovely wife, Debbie.
	The new movie is Police Estate, policeestatefilm.net.
	Dinesh, tell us about certain peculiarities concerning the distribution of your film.
	Yeah, a few days after we put our website up, the FBI visits the web designer at the house and leaves a card saying, please contact us immediately.
	So this guy was obviously kind of freaked out.
	He's not even part of our film team.
	And so I called a friend of mine at Newsweek and asked him to call the FBI and the FBI went into full denial mode.
	Oh, it's probably a mistake.
	It has nothing to do with this film.
	We're not trying to interfere in any way.
	I don't know if you know about this, Seb, but about a week ago, we sent a wire for $100,000 to none other than Salem Media for advertising related to Police State, and the U.S.
	Treasury Department intercepts the wire.
	It was intercepted by a group called OFAC.
	And when you look it up, OFAC is an agency of the Treasury Department that is supposed to monitor transactions dealing with narcotics.
	countries that are under trade sanction or international terrorism.
	We do not fit any of those boxes and yet they intercept our money.
	So once again, we have to sort of jump into contacting lawyers and contacting the government.
	And once again, they release the money, I guess, acting as if it was some sort of mistake.
	But why are these mistakes all happening to a film called Police State?
	And now, of course, more recently, Amazon and Walmart won't sell our DVDs.
	Again, why?
	Is this because the topic is somehow banned?
	No.
	Is it because there's been any even fact check on the film claiming that anything in the film is inaccurate?
	No.
	I've sold previous films on Amazon and Walmart.
	So they're just doing it because they can.
	They're doing it as a way of saying, no, we're going to block this content.
	And so it shows you the imperative need to build a parallel economy.
	Workers are selling a lot of DVDs on Salem.
	And I say, Listen, that's what people should support.
	So if you go to PoliceStateFilm.net, it connects to the tab at Salem.
	You can just click on Salem, buy DVDs for yourself and DVDs for Christmas as gifts.
	It's a great way to strike back at these people who are trying to block us at every turn.
	Do we have the image?
	Can we put the image up on the screen?
	I have a massive DVD library because you're at the mercy of streaming services.
	They can delete movies at will or simply not host them.
	So if you want to watch this film and make sure no one can ever delete it, you go to salemnow.com and it's right there.
	I am ordering DVDs of Police State and I'm just curious, I know I'm being naive, What did the FBI say?
	Why are they visiting your web designer?
	Why are they intercepting your promotional wire to Salem?
	And why does Amazon and Walmart say we won't stock your film?
	Do they even deign to give you an excuse?
	So, none of them do.
	They simply go declined.
	It's sort of like we've reviewed the product and we've just decided we don't want it.
	That's the Amazon and Walmart line.
	Now, it can't be.
	It is not because we're not like a product anyone wants to buy, right?
	We open in the theaters.
	We have 800 screens.
	We virtually sell out every single seat.
	So it's a massive success.
	The theaters actually beg us to come back in because not only do they get money from the movie, they sell so much popcorn and so much coke, you know, while people are watching the movie.
	So it's a success in the theaters.
	It obviously will sell as a product and yet they don't want it.
	And similarly with the government, the FBI, the OFAC, the Treasury Department, not a single word.
	And so we're now writing the government a legal letter basically saying, you know, provide us with an explanation for why you would intercept a domestic wire from an independent film company to another media organization for advertising for a movie.
	Why would you do that?
	I think you've just demonstrated that we live in a police state.
	We're talking to the producer, the director of PoliceStateFilm.net.
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	You know, there's a guy in the movie, you saw him, his name is John O'Connor.
	He's a former federal prosecutor.
	He's the old guy we interviewed in the film.
	Yeah, so I call up John and he goes, he goes, number one, he goes, you know, this group OFAC is supposed to deal with sanctioned countries.
	He goes, he goes, I think it's extremely strange that they would try to interfere in a domestic transaction that is as benign as this one.
	And then when I told him that they had given us the money back, he goes, that's even stranger.
	He goes, normally with these agencies, if they put a hold on your money and they take it, it's going to be weeks if not months before you even get it back.
	It's like if your assets are confiscated in a civil asset forfeiture, don't expect to get them back on Monday.
	You're going to have to go to court.
	You're going to have to go back and forth.
	And eventually you might get it back.
	So he goes, it's even stranger that they panicked and returned the money.
	It's not an accident.
	It's just rank intimidation.
	It's rank intimidation.
	I think that's it.
	And not only intimidation, it's just interference.
	It's like, we realize that this film is not going to have infinite resources.
	They probably need this money to help fund the marketing of the film.
	Right.
	So if we take the money now, we're taking it at a critical time when they're trying to sell the streaming, they're trying to sell DVDs.
	So even if we give it back to them later, it won't be as much use to them then.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Mindy.
	Unbelievable.
	And then your poor web designer.
	Yeah.
	All right, so I'm going to mention the Cruise here, I'll mention the DVDs again, and then I'll mention Matt Poehner.
	No, Jerry Poehner first, and then Matt.
	Do you have images of both, Eric?
	Yeah.
	Okay, show me what you've got.
	Here's Jerry with Dinesh.
	Perfect.
	And then, of course, here is... Excellent.
	Okay, good.
	All right.
	So, Cruise first, then DVDs again.
	Yeah, Cruise, DVDs, then Jerry and Matt.
	All righty, 50 seconds.
	Are we confirmed for War Room?
	Uh, yeah.
	Okay, topic?
	Uh, let me check.
	Still hasn't given a topic, I'll ask again.
	Actually, you know what?
	Um... No.
	I'm gonna tee up, before we get to Jerry, after the DVDs, I'm gonna tee up cut 18 for Dinesh.
	Okay?
	DVDs, then 18, then Jerry.
	Alrighty.
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	We're back with my good friend, Patriot extraordinaire, author Filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza.
	The latest movie is Police State.
	You have got to see it.
	Either go online to PoliceStateFilm.net or order the DVD at SalemNow.com.
	I'm ordering the DVDs.
	A perfect, perfect Christmas gift.
	Dinesh, I want to Segway, the whole theme of, you cover so many things from how they exploited COVID, human trafficking, the border, FBI, January 6th, but there's kind of one encapsulation and it goes to something the president said yesterday in Florida.
	Cut 18.
	No matter how hateful or corrupt the communists and criminals we're fighting against may be, you must never forget this nation does not belong to them.
	This nation belongs to you.
	It belongs to the people with us tonight.
	That's how we won.
	This is your home.
	This is your heritage.
	And our American liberty is your God-given right.
	This is your home.
	This is your heritage.
	This is your God-given right, American liberty.
	Today is the anniversary, Dinesh, as you know, of Kristallnacht in Germany in 1938.
	That was the beginning of the Holocaust, the full national socialist takeover of that nation.
	You're an immigrant like me.
	When I moved here 15 years ago, Dinesh, I used to make fun of my fellow conservatives who talked about the fascists are here, the communists are here.
	I don't laugh at these people anymore.
	And I think of one amazing lady who you're interviewing her here in the movie.
	She's been on my show many times.
	She's been on my Newsmax show, Geri Perner.
	Can we not use the story of what happened to her nephew, Matt, As an example that, I'm sorry, the fascistic state has arrived and we are in a police state.
	Say a few words about this man who really is a martyr to January the 6th.
	Yeah, and I think the significance of this case is that it also illuminates a special character of our police state, which is that our police state marches behind the banner of law.
	It is a case of naked brutality, but naked brutality hidden by a glove that purports to be lawful.
	This is, by the way, what they do with Trump, right?
	They're like, well, it's not that we're going after Trump, Dinesh, but, you know, no one's above the law.
	And similarly with Matt Perna, here's a guy, non-violent.
	He goes into the Capitol for about 15 to 20 minutes on January 6th.
	He doesn't get into any altercations.
	He doesn't fight with anybody.
	The only thing he does is chant, USA, USA, USA.
	And not only is he charged with the normal kind of misdemeanors, parading in a public building, but also with the felony, obstruction of justice.
	He's looking at a year or so in prison, which is terrible enough because the guy didn't do anything.
	But nevertheless, he accommodates himself to that.
	He's like, I'm going to try to make the best of it.
	I'm going to try to help other people.
	But then right on the eve of his sentencing, the government goes, we are looking to add a terrorism enhancement.
	Which basically means we want him sentenced as a terrorist.
	And they give him a court date on the anniversary of the death of his mother.
	Yes.
	And now he's looking at, what, 5, 10, 15 years in prison, and it breaks his spirit.
	He had sort of mentally brought himself to a point where he could live with a year in prison, he was going to make the best of it, and then boom, they lower this on him, and he hangs himself in his garage.
	And his aunt, This is to me such a poignant moment in the movie.
	She's rummaging through his things and she sees some files and the name and number of the prosecutor is on the file.
	So she calls the guy up and she goes, you know, she goes, where did you get this terrorism enhancement?
	My nephew's not a terrorist.
	And then this is the kind of callous inhumanity of the police state, the prosecutor, who's like, we're very sorry about what happened to your nephew, but you know what?
	If Matt had only waited another month or so, I think that this terrorism enhancement thing would not have, it would not have passed muster.
	Right.
	He actually says we probably would have dropped it, which means he would be alive today.
	Exactly.
	You can just see the sputtering rage and helplessness of Geri Perna as she has to come to terms with the fact that this was a completely unnecessary death.
	And yet it was an unnecessary death caused by the U.S.
	government.
	And they don't care one whit about it, even though they profess to.
	And you can see right here the police state in its sort of very ugly outline.
	We've got a minute left.
	I want to use it to thank you, Dinesh.
	I got to know you and your beautiful bride much better on our trip to Israel last year.
	You are a true patriot.
	You're a very brave man after what the Obama DOJ did to you.
	I salute you for your commitment to the principles upon which this Republic was founded would you just send a message in the last 30 seconds we have you with you Dinesh to those Americans who may be listening who say I wasn't in Washington on January the 6th I don't have any relatives who went into Congress and this police state thing doesn't matter to me
	Yeah, you're a bit like the wildebeest or the antelope who's grazing happily, and I'm trying to tell you, look over there, there's a predator behind the trees.
	And you're telling me, oh no, Dinesh, it's just the wind.
	Or, oh no, Dinesh, there might be a predator, but happily, I think he's going to land on somebody else's back, not on mine.
	So I would say, open-mindedly watch the film, look at the ways in which it describes ordinary people, it portrays them, and shows what happened to them when they experienced
	what Orwell calls the boot stamping on the human face.
	That's the essence of the state.
	Oh, you need to be ready.
	Yeah, a boot stamping on a human face forever.
	The book, the movie is Police State, PoliceStateFilm.net and you can order the DVD at SalemNow.com.
	God bless you, Dinesh.
	Thank you for continuing to fight for our freedoms here in America.
	One thing you should not be doing if you're a good guy and a patriot is using a mobile phone that's connected to the big cell phone providers because they're part of the problem.
	They're woke.
	They don't love America.
	They hate America.
	There's only one Christian conservative cell phone.
	It's the one I use.
	It's Patriot Mobile.
	Glenn and his team are superb.
	They love America as much as you do.
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	And that's why President Trump, the only serving president to do so, went to Jerusalem.
	He didn't just recognize that city as the capital of the eternal state of Israel and moved our embassy.
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	They change chyrons here.
	Like I just don't even have to say it and It happens.
	Talking of t-shirts, Jeff, I know we're almost out of time before our very special one-on-one, but you found a bit of b-roll.
	Putting on a t-shirt, if you've got two arms and a head, should be pretty easy, right?
	It's not hard unless you are at the age where you need assistance.
	Yeah, like who?
	That'd be the president.
	This is today, right?
	This is with the union workers.
	Yes.
	And why you would do this knowing that he is the way he is, I have no idea.
	This is a guy who can't walk properly.
	He kind of like shuffles and he can't go upstairs.
	Let's just play the b-roll.
	This is just like an hour and a half ago, maybe.
	He's with the union workers.
	He's about to give a stumbling, bumbling speech.
	He takes off his blazer.
	They give him a union t-shirt.
	And he's like, he can't work out.
	Is this the arm?
	Is this the neck hole?
	Is this where my head goes?
	Oops.
	And then he says, oh, please, please pull it down at the back because I don't know how to pull down a t-shirt.
	I mean, this is supposed to be communications.
	It's shocking.
	Could be worse, though, Jeff.
	We could have a prime minister like Trudeau running America, couldn't we?
	I wonder who would be better, to be honest with you.
	That's a tough question, isn't it?
	I've got to play this clip.
	It's just, what is it?
	13 seconds long.
	This is the guy who runs our northerly neighbor.
	It's unbelievable.
	Such a pathetic snowflake.
	Cut to him.
	The fact of the matter is, Mr. Speaker, Canadians are afraid of climate change.
	They're afraid of the extreme weather events.
	They're afraid of the concerns we have about a brighter future.
	What we are doing is fighting climate change every day.
	Yeah, people are getting murdered.
	Their children are getting baked alive.
	There are people being trafficked across our border along with terrorists.
	Iran is on the brink of nuclear weapons.
	China is re-militarizing.
	But Canadians, they're afraid of the weather.
	Lord preserve us.
	Let's talk about the truth of what happened a month ago in Israel and the anniversary today of Kristallnacht 1938 with a very special guest next here on America First.
	wherever you are, whatever you're doing, do not touch that dial.
	you you
	I was born 25 years after the end of the Holocaust, the Shoah, and I never dreamt in my wildest dreams that I would see footage like that, um, today.
	And not from the West Bank, Gaza, or the streets of Karachi, but from an amazing country I visited, Australia, right outside its most famous landmark, the Sydney Opera House.
	Those were pro-Gaza, pro-Hamas protesters screaming, gas the Jews.
	And it's not just Australia.
	What we witnessed last weekend, Saturday night outside the White House, a breach of security, the damaging of the actual fence line, and again, pro-Hamas demonstrators screaming chants like, from the river to the sea, which is genocidal.
	It calls for the erasure of the modern Israeli state.
	What can be done?
	How serious is it?
	We have a very special one-on-one with somebody I have yet to meet in person.
	He approached me via Twitter, via X, in direct messaging, and we're delighted to have him on the show on America First.
	Rabbi Michael Barclay of the Temple near Shimha.
	Welcome to America First.
	Thank you so much, Sebastian.
	You're truly amazing and a great hero for America and a great hero for Israel.
	That's far too kind.
	Did I get that right?
	We connected over the direct messaging on Twitter, correct?
	Yeah, we have a number of mutual friends.
	You saw some of my articles from TJ Media.
	Right, that's right.
	PJ Media, and you've been writing incessantly for the last month since the slaughter of the innocents on October the 7th.
	Amazing articles, and I've been retweeting them.
	First things first, let's get this out of the way.
	Please follow this gentleman right now at Rabbi underscore Barclay.
	That's at Rabbi underscore Barclay, and the website is RabbiMichaelBarclay.com.
	For those who aren't familiar with your writings and what you've been doing on social media, talk to us a little bit about Rabbi Barclay and about your community in California.
	Our community, well, I'm a rabbi here in Los Angeles, a suburb of Los Angeles called Westlake Village, roughly 45 minutes northwest of Los Angeles.
	We are a trans-denominational, excuse the term, but a post-denominational type of community.
	We use conservative prayer books.
	Most of our congregants are Reform, and I teach Orthodox theology.
	We use a lot of music.
	We were the only synagogue in the state of California to not close during the pandemic.
	I just kind of believe that Jews didn't close their temples for the Inquisition or the Holocaust, and Gavin Newsom could kiss my pilka, so we never closed.
	We screened for those people who wanted to have screening services, but we were always live as well.
	And let me jump in there.
	What was that like?
	What kind of pressure were you put under deciding to keep your temple open during the California
	COVID shutdowns?
	Everything from other rabbis.
	There was a rabbi who literally published, Rabbi Barclay and his board should be arrested
	and die.
	My house was vandalized four times, including an M-80 being thrown at it.
	But you've got to try and do the right thing.
	And we're also the first non-Orthodox synagogue in the nation with no membership dues, no cost for high holidays, no cost for religious school.
	I don't think any human being should be forced to pay to pray.
	I don't think that's right.
	So when we started the community 10 years ago, everyone said it'll never work.
	And while more synagogues have closed in the last three years than ever before in American history, thank God we're still here.
	Well, I have so many questions to ask you, not just about what happened in Israel and what the correct response is for Jews here in America and across the diaspora.
	But would you help us out a little bit, because we've got three and a half million listeners, and many, many in California, and I know many in the Jewish community.
	But for the Gentiles, for the Christians who are listening, could you give us a little snapshot of how heterogeneous the community is, what the big groupings are?
	Most people will know That's an old one I've heard many times before, but it's a good one.
	us a little picture of the Jewish community today in America, Rabbi?
	Sure.
	Remembering the two Jews equals three opinions, four rabbis, and four tenets.
	That's an old one I've heard many times before, but it's a good one.
	It's true.
	You know, the...
	They were only Jews.
	You were practicing.
	You were Germans.
	You weren't.
	In the 18th century, there were people in Germany, Jews and rabbis in Germany, who said they're more German than Jewish, and so they reformed Judaism.
	They even celebrated, in some cases, the Sabbath on Sundays.
	They cut their hair.
	They didn't wear yarmulkes.
	They did their services in Germany.
	In the 19th to late 19th century, you have people who said, okay, we're not as observant as those other guys, because the Reformers called everybody else Orthodox.
	They said, we're not as observant as those Orthodox, we're more conservative than the Reformed Jews.
	And so you then had the conservative movement.
	That was the biggest movement post-Holocaust in the United States.
	And you had those three main movements.
	What you have today is really three types of Jews.
	You have the observant or Orthodox.
	You have what my friend and teacher Rabbi Elijah Shroffhead likes to call non-practicing Orthodox.
	Their values, their traditions, their beliefs are all very observant Jews and authentic Judaism, but they may not keep all the laws.
	And then you have Reform and secular.
	In many cases, the religion has changed from being Jewish to actually being leftist secularism.
	Every year, I get multiple phone calls from people saying they've been thrown out of their community by the rabbi or by lay leaders because their politics are not leftist.
	And they call and the first questions for the High Holidays are, we're looking for synagogues.
	We'd like to know your politics and the politics of your synagogue.
	And my answer is always the same.
	My politics are my business.
	I do a lot of writing.
	You can check on what that is.
	I do not do politics from the pulpit, ever.
	I don't think that's the rabbi's job, other than to call it anti-semitism and to always be pro-Israel.
	And so we are very clear that everyone is welcome.
	We have people who are on the far left.
	We have people who are on the far right.
	We have people who are in the middle.
	And then we have people who are in between.
	They're in the middle.
	They're sort of in between Genghis Khan and a Taliban.
	They're that far.
	All right, well let me push you on this issue because you're not in the pulpit right now because as somebody who found out by accident when I walked into a meeting of Orthodox rabbis in the White House and was mobbed in a good way by them, turns out they listened to me With regularity on John Batchelor's show, and I had a big following in the New York Jewish community.
	I don't get—well, I think I do get it, but I want to hear it from you.
	Why is it that President Trump, my former boss, enjoyed 92 percent of the vote of the Orthodox Jewish community in America, and basically none of the secular or the Reformed Jewish community?
	How can there be such a division politically in the community?
	I think the first thing is to add to that that he probably enjoyed 90 plus percent of the non-practicing orthodoxy as well.
	People who may be observantly conservative reform, but actually their hearts are very Jewish.
	It's pretty simple, honestly.
	Judaism is not a tradition that's supposed to make you feel good.
	The idea is to make you be better.
	And if you're an observant Jew, or if you're attached to those values, then you typically have conservative values, politically conservative values.
	You typically, if you're observant, you recognize that there's an issue of self-responsibility, that if you make a mistake, you need to fix it.
	If you have an error of some sort, you need to not only apologize, but you need to actually make it better.
	It's based on individual responsibility and a responsibility to your community and culture as well.
	If, on the other hand, you reject those values and are looking for religion or practices that make you feel good, as opposed to taking responsibility, then you may be Jewish in name, you may be a Reformed Jew or a secular Jew or go to temple two days a year, but you have no commitment to trying to better yourself, better the world.
	Takuna Olam is a phrase that goes back to the times of the Talmud.
	It means the repair of the world, the rectification of the world.
	It doesn't mean social action.
	It means taking responsibility for yourself to do what God put you here to do.
	You are meant to be doing, Sebastian, exactly what you are doing.
	And you are not meant to be a saxophone player.
	That's not why God put you in this world.
	He put you in the world to be a professional golfer, although you may play golf brawling.
	Tikkun Olam literally means for us to find what we do and to do it.
	It is if.
	We all have an instrument we're supposed to play in God's symphony, and our life's journey is finding the right instrument and playing the note, the right note, and playing it in tune.
	And when we do that, that's the sound of heaven.
	But secular Jews would rather say, Tikkun Olam is social action.
	I want to feel good about what I do.
	I want everyone else to feel good.
	Kumbaya.
	That's not Judaism.
	I'm sorry.
	And part of our goal in having a synagogue that has no dues is to get those unaffiliated Jews back into experiencing authentic Judaism and back into experience the joy of connecting with God in a responsible way, in an honest way, in a mature way.
	I didn't think I could get anyone to explain to me the difference that sagaciously in about 180 seconds.
	My gosh, I think we're going to just have to Take that clip and post it everywhere.
	Incredible.
	That's why he's Rabbi Michael Barclay.
	He's the spiritual leader of the Temple near Shimcha.
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	We are watching the shocking footage coming out of the Middle East.
	What can we do about it?
	Well, we have to get my former boss, President Trump, back into the White House.
	God willing, we will be able to do so.
	It's really up to us.
	But in the meantime, what can you do?
	Well, a great, great deal.
	There is a hospital in Israel that is providing aid and succor to the families that are suffering since October 7th.
	It's called the Benaiah Zion Medical Center, and you, along with my Newsmax viewers, have donated more than $300,000 to that hospital in ways that have led to the purchase of medical equipment, medical supplies, and literally saved hundreds of lives.
	Please make a difference today.
	Donate at healthcareforisrael.org slash donate.
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	Israel will do what has to be done.
	to save its country from those that wish to extinguish it but we can make a difference right now for those who are suffering.
	That's healthcareforisrael.org slash donate.
	Please be as generous as you can.
	Rabbi Barclay, I've got a long list of questions for you.
	Can I be personal for a second?
	Of course.
	I lived through a rather peculiar period in the White House I thought I was adequately cynical and hard-bitten, but when journalists, quote-unquote journalists, came after not only me but my wife and my children, and a magazine called The Four Word wrote 50 hit pieces on me, and one of them was about my 18-year-old son and used the title Traitor in the headline, I kind of
	I got to a point where I thought, what is the humanity of these people?
	And I owe a huge debt of gratitude to friends like Jeff Balaban, my Orthodox friends, David Goldman and others, and also a rabbi I'd never met before, Rabbi Herschel Billet, who wrote this article.
	Saying, Sebastian Gorka is no anti-Semite.
	Afterwards, I was, you know, after months and months of being called a Nazi, a white supremacist, a fascist, it was explained to me by friends like Jeff Balaban just how grave a sin in the Jewish community bearing false witness is.
	Do you have any words for those who take the Trump administration, that it was probably the most philo-Semitic administration since 1948, and just cast aspersions, calumnies against the president, his family, and the people who worked for him as anti-Semitic?
	Can I ask—tease you out to react to those—well, to the last seven years, really?
	Sure.
	First thing I would do is recommend looking at the columns that I wrote for PJ Media about President Trump.
	One of which I actually questioned is, is he actually a Maccabee in disguise?
	Explain that, explain that.
	In the second century before the Common Era, the Seleucid Greeks had conquered Israel, and they wanted the Hebrews, the Jews, to be spiritually dead.
	They weren't going after their physical lives, they were going after their spiritual lives.
	They wanted them to convert and let go.
	And there was a family named Maccabees who said no, and they led a revolt.
	They were priests and they led a revolt that ended up taking back the Jewish kingdom.
	This is the second century before the common era.
	And in that event, which was when they finally recaptured the temple in Jerusalem, they rededicated it.
	That's the miracle of Hanukkah.
	Hanukkah is not about a threat on our physical lives, but rather about a threat on our spiritual lives, those who want us to assimilate.
	That has been the question for 2,000 years, or the problem in Judaism.
	It is the problem today.
	And this goes back to what we were just talking about with those Jews who are only secularists, that's the religion.
	And so the Maccabees are considered great heroes, and we have this holiday of Hanukkah that we celebrate in wintertime.
	You know, I have heard so many people justify and say, oh, no, President Trump only did good things because his son-in-law is Jewish, or he had nothing to do with it, or he was dealing with a wink and a nudge.
	He's really an anti-Semite.
	I can't comment on what is in his heart.
	I've never met him.
	But I can say without question, this president was the best president for Israel in the history of our nation and the best president for Jews in the history of our nation.
	He did something that was so amazing.
	He included anti-Semitism in violations of being protected by Title VI, which protected all the Jewish children, including my 14-year-old twin, in their schools by protecting them in Title VI.
	This man did more for the nation of Israel, the Jewish people, than any president.
	And I think that, you know, in Judaism, we're taught to, A, judge someone under action.
	That's what's important.
	And I think too many people have not judged him on his actions, but judged him on his mean tweets or whatever else.
	That's number one.
	Number two, it's not just bearing false witness.
	In Hebrew, we have a term called the shantara.
	It means the evil cosmic gossip.
	It's talking about someone.
	And we say that it is equivalent to murder, theft, and idolatry all at once.
	That's how bad it is.
	And yet people like Adam Schiff, repeatedly do Lashon Hara against President Trump. I
	actually wrote an article about that, that for the benefit of his own soul,
	Adam Schiff should have shut up a few years ago and stopped making false claims. So
	I don't think it's personal, I think it's just that's Jewish theology.
	That's not just Michael Barkley. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of, it's
	It's the one thing that stuns me.
	I'm stunned that you haven't met him.
	We will have to rectify that as soon as possible and get you to Mar-a-Lago, to one of the events.
	But despite having worked for him, being his deputy, being alone with him in the Oval, I know the man, but I still don't understand how he does what he does.
	To be the first president in 23 years who actually kept our promise to Israel, moved the embassy, recognized the capital after Clinton, Obama, and George Bush broke our promise.
	And then he's prepared to do it all again after what they did to him, the lies, the calumny.
	I mean, it's just absolutely stunning, and that's from somebody who worked for him.
	We're talking to Rabbi Michael Barclay.
	It's Rabbi underscore Barclay on Twitter, RabbiMichaelBarclay.com, the spiritual leader of the Temple near Shimha.
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	Rabbi, I have some specific questions about what we do with the recrudescence this shocking, you know, new explosion or
	unveiling of anti-Semitism here in America, especially in our colleges, but also on the
	streets of New York and elsewhere.
	But first, as a leader of your faith community, will you help our listeners put into context
	what happened a month ago in Israel and why it really is not hyperbole to say this is
	the greatest loss of death for the Jewish world since the Shoah, since the Holocaust?
	So, if you're okay with me processing it with a little piece of biblical text, because I based my life on that.
	The Bible is filled with forgiveness, the Hebrew Scriptures.
	Everyone's forgiven.
	King David is forgiven, even after he sleeps with a married woman and has her husband.
	God is a forgiving God.
	But one character in the Hebrew Scriptures is not forgiven, Amalek.
	Amalek is this character where God says, I will blot out the remembrance of Amalek from the face of the earth.
	You are to destroy, completely destroy Amalek forever.
	It's so important that King Saul, when he doesn't kill all the Amalekites when he's told to, he loses his kingship.
	Samuel comes to him and he loses his kingship.
	And so it's a really important factor.
	And so the rabbis ask, you know, what is this about?
	Because Saul actually says, why should the innocent die with the guilty?
	And the rabbis talk about this and they say it's because Amalek was a specific type of evil.
	Amalek was the character who attacked the Hebrews from behind.
	For the week, the children slipped away.
	And if you have that kind of intent, you are no longer redeemable.
	That is true evil.
	It must be entirely destroyed.
	It is like the cancer that every cell must be removed.
	It is truly evil.
	What they did on October 7th was beyond anything in history.
	They went out with the intention to kill to rape.
	They took videos of killing kids on the kids' phones and sent it to their parents.
	They went out with the intention to destroy, to kill, to torture, and to terrorize the innocent.
	And the TOR is really clear.
	That needs not to be defeated, but it needs to be destroyed.
	I do not have the words to tell you how sad that makes me.
	Because, A, those Hamas soldiers, when they were born, they were innocent souls.
	They were inculcated into this cult of death and hate.
	And that's for the first part.
	The other piece is, we have to destroy and kill everyone.
	Every aspect and cell of Hamas.
	There is no question about that.
	And the fact that I actually have to support killing another human being is more devastating to me than I can possibly explain, and should be.
	There was a Midrash teaching that when Pharaoh's soldiers were being drowned in the Sea of Reeds, when they came out after the Hebrews and Moses, the angels started to rejoice.
	And God stopped him with his tears and said, the work of my hands is being destroyed, and you want to sing hymns?
	There is no joy in this, and yet it must be done.
	If you'd asked me two months ago what should be done with Hamas, I would say we should work out a peace no matter what we have to do.
	Ask me on October 8th.
	The answer is we must destroy it completely like a cancer that must be destroyed, and only then can we really establish a lasting peace.
	We need to fertilize the earth of Gaza with their ashes.
	That is so sad.
	Golda Meir phrased it probably better than any other human being, when she said that we may someday be able to forgive them for killing Israeli children, but we will never be able to forgive them for making us kill their children.
	Yeah, an amazing lady, and we've played a clip of her several times this week from 1970 where she said, the Palestinian question has never been about land.
	It's always been about the destruction of all Jews.
	We're talking to Rabbi Michael Barkley.
	This is America First One on One.
	Thank you, Rabbi, for that incredibly powerful explication of what has to be done.
	I've been talking about needing to salt the earth over the remnants of Hamas.
	I will borrow liberally your version of needing to fertilize the soil with their ashes.
	Let's move away from the Middle East, from Gaza, from the West Bank, and talk about what's happening here in America.
	This is an amazing clip.
	It's a little long, but it's the end of it that will shock our viewers and listeners.
	These are two students, an Asian girl who runs away, and then another girl, who are at Boston University ripping down the posters of the kidnapped Jewish children.
	Play cut.
	You guys really believe in terrorism?
	Fucking cowards.
	You should be ashamed of yourself.
	You should be ashamed of yourself.
	These people are killing innocent civilians.
	They killed friends of ours.
	Families.
	People here are affected directly.
	And you guys are denying it.
	Taking them out.
	Spreading hate.
	Conferring antisemitism.
	Dude, you literally know I'm Jewish.
	Like, I've been... That's not a Jew, that makes it much better.
	No, but I'm saying, like, you have no right to tell people that their beliefs are wrong or that they're supporting... It's not a belief that someone getting kidnapped, that baby's getting beheaded, that 85-year-old grandmother's getting kidnapped, it's wrong.
	That's not a belief, that's not an opinion.
	And if it is, of course I don't respect it.
	Why are you filming?
	Because... What's your point?
	What?
	To show where all the hate is coming from on this campus.
	Most Jewish students don't feel safe because a lot of other students are doing it and the worst part is that there's Jewish students like you, unfortunately, who like encourage them to continue doing this and they get violated by it.
	You don't know what, look, you are reading into propaganda.
	Sure.
	Yeah!
	Tell me, tell me.
	You're supporting occupation.
	An illegal occupation that's been happening for 75 years.
	It's about Hamas and the atrocities and all of the war crimes they're committing.
	It's not about anything else.
	You're not condemning terrorists?
	That's the amazing organization, Camera on Campus, who caught that.
	The Asian girl ran away and then the other one stayed there and then spewed all of the genocide by Israel, apartheid state claptrap, in the midst, Rabbi, of her saying, I'm Jewish.
	How does that happen in America?
	Wow.
	You just want to get me in trouble.
	Look, you're doing a pretty good job yourself.
	I read your articles, okay?
	I've read your articles.
	I'm just, you know, encouraging your forthright attitude to the truth, Rabbi.
	So first of all, I will tell you that the most ironic photo I have seen Was at a college campus demonstration that said, Lesbian Jews for Palestine.
	Yeah.
	Totally unaware that that's a group that just, they'll bid to see who can kill you first on that.
	The fault of this is these Jews in name.
	have been indoctrinated into a history of misinformation, a history of propaganda for the last 60 years, 70 years.
	And the people who should have been fighting were the rabbis.
	The rabbis in this country should have been committed to making sure our kids got an actual education.
	And instead, all too often, they were committed to liberal values.
	It wasn't leftism at the time, just social action, etc.
	And I really feel that most of the problems of the Jewish world in our country are because of Rabbis not stepping up.
	That's why I said I'm going to get in trouble.
	But this is a young woman who knows nothing about Judaism, nothing about Jewish history, nothing about history in the Middle East.
	She has bought into the propaganda of an occupation.
	She's bought into the propaganda that there is even a Palestine historically.
	There isn't.
	And if you want confirmation of that, if you don't believe the actual history, if you want to believe the propaganda, I recommend to everyone to just Google search the Covenant of 1988 for Hamas.
	This is their chart.
	If you read it, you will see they do not claim a historical right to the land.
	They don't even claim it.
	They claim the right of waqf, which is holy possession, meaning that once it's been conquered by Islam, by Muslims, it is now dedicated to the Allah forever.
	And they're not even claiming historical possession of the land.
	And there is none.
	And again, you know, I've written articles about this.
	Palestine has no historical origin.
	It doesn't even exist as a name until we start getting the British mandate.
	From 1948 to 1957, they mandated a mandate of Jordan and there's no occupied territory.
	What they did was brilliant marketing.
	The Jordanians in the West Bank and the Egyptians in Gaza.
	They decided to say they're both Palestinians.
	Let's be clear, the people living in Gaza, their great-grandparents identified as Egyptians.
	The people living in the West Bank, their great-grandfathers identified as Jordanians.
	Correct.
	Yeah, and if you actually read that founding Hamas charter, you'll also read the opening paragraph, which states, we are the Muslim Brotherhood.
	Therefore, everything in between shouldn't even exist.
	It's really occupied territory.
	It's really tough.
	Yeah, and if you actually read that founding Hamas charter, you'll also read the opening
	paragraph which states, we are the Muslim Brotherhood.
	They are actually the Muslim Brotherhood organization for that part of the world.
	The organization which was created after the dissolution of the caliphate by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk with one purpose and one purpose alone to recreate the theocratic caliphate.
	That's what Hamas is and all the world should be covered in that caliphate.
	We're talking to Rabbi Michael Barclay.
	This is America First one-on-one.
	All right, so we only have a couple of minutes left.
	We must continue.
	This has absolutely flown by, Rabbi Barclay.
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	This may be irregular, but you know, you said I've already got you in trouble.
	No names, no pack drills.
	What is your message to, not your fellow Jews in America, but to your fellow rabbis who maybe are getting a little, a prick of a conscience, a little bit of an itch they cannot scratch, that maybe there are things they should have talked about for the last 10, 20 years that they haven't.
	What would you say to them, Rabbi Barclay?
	I would say to them, and I do say to them, Which doesn't make me popular with my colleagues.
	I would say a rabbi is a leader, and a leader is supposed to lead, not follow.
	It is an Aramaic term meaning master of the house.
	Stop listening to your boards, which are concerned about money, and instead start actualizing And preaching and teaching Jewish values and Judaism.
	When I was threatened by one rabbi who said that myself and my board should be arrested and die, I called him.
	And this is the same rabbi, Sebastian, who said you should never bar mitzvah Stephen Miller, if you remember that.
	Yes.
	I said, what are you doing?
	You don't know what we're doing.
	You don't know the safety that we're doing.
	You don't know that we're doing outdoor services.
	You don't know that we're doing double services with eight feet between every family, because you're killing people.
	I said, you don't know that, and you don't have a right.
	And you know that the temple says in the Talmud that the original temple was destroyed because of baseless hatred between Jews.
	What are you doing?
	And this is a verbatim quote.
	He said to me, we are Reformed Jews.
	We don't care about the Talmud.
	Shocking.
	It was shocking.
	I then said to him, okay, fine, but in the book of Leviticus it says you shall surely rebuke your neighbor for this kind of behavior, to which there were a string of expletives, followed by him screaming, F you, and hanging up.
	Too many people have gone to the rabbinate because they figure, oh, I'll get a good cushy job, I'll do whatever.
	When I was in rabbinic school, I asked a friend of mine who's an amazing human being, one of the great Reformed rabbis in terms of ethics, a man named Rabbi Arthur Rochefer, and both his sons served in the IDF, and I said, Arthur, I don't get it.
	Most people I've been in school with don't care about God.
	They don't care about Judaism.
	I don't care.
	I don't understand.
	And he looked at me and he said, Michael, what else, if you're a wannabe actor or singer or comedian or whatever else, what else can you go to graduate school, come out with a six-figure year salary, and people are forced to laugh at your jokes?
	And I got it.
	Rabbis need to stop Compromising and be rabbis.
	A couple of years ago, there was a couple of hundred rabbinic and cantoral students who were a public letter castigating Israel and supporting Palestine.
	And I wrote an article about this on PJ.
	Every one of them should have been thrown out of the rabbinic school.
	And I actually, in the article, put down emails for the deans of the rabbinic school.
	But the deans and the boards are so concerned that they're not going to get donations, they're not going to get anything financially, that they succumb and surrender to Rabbi's being followers instead of authentic spiritual leaders, and that's what we need now more than ever is for rabbis to step up and realize the truth.
	There is more overt anti-semitism than any time in our life.
	Hello, can you hear me?
	What is the background noise?
	Let's be clear, I worked on Jared Brown's presidential campaign, so I have my Democratic
	residence.
	Hello, can you hear me?
	The Democratic Party, as long ago left us.
	What is the background noise?
	Because we're hearing like a phone ring somewhere.
	We're committed to the efforts of the people taken over by people like Obama and Faiyid,
	and we need to realize that we are closer to crystal ball, God forbid, than we've ever
	Kristallnacht is actually tomorrow night.
	Correct.
	It's today.
	Yeah, well, all I know is we need more rabbis like you.
	Please read this man's writings on PJ Media, I think imminently at Breitbart as well.
	The website is rabbimichaelbarkley.com.
	You've been listening to a very special edition of America First one-on-one.
	Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, keep your head on a swivel, watch your six, hold the line, never give up, never give in.

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