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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Who really lost last night?

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	We are going to make this decision now.
	The Fox News decision desk has called Pennsylvania for Donald Trump.
	This means that Donald Trump will be the 45th president of the United States, winning the most unreal, surreal election we have ever seen.
	Yes, indeed.
	Why are we playing that clip?
	Because it occurred.
	Drumroll please.
	Seven years ago today.
	How did people miss that?
	How did people miss, in all the analysis of last night's elections from Kentucky to Virginia, the only thing that really matters is the complete and utter upset of what happened seven years ago today when a man who Jeff, who ran for any public office at any level, won the presidency the first time he ran with 64 million Americans saying, nope, we don't want any politicians.
	We don't want Hillary.
	We don't want former senators, congressmen, governors, or retired generals.
	We want Donald Trump.
	And then he accepted so graciously.
	Play cut.
	Now it's time for America to bind the wounds of division.
	We have to get together.
	To all Republicans and Democrats and independents across this nation, I say it is time for us to come together as one united people.
	It's time.
	I pledge to every citizen of our land That I will be president for all Americans and this is so important to me.
	So what happened yesterday?
	How does it tie into what happened seven years ago today and what we need to achieve in 51 and a half weeks time?
	Yes, we are less than a year away from the election.
	Now, it's interesting, I called up the smartest guy I know when it comes to domestic politics, who was my office buddy in the White House, and he was like so chill, so utterly chill about yesterday's results.
	He said, well, you know, it's not really that bad.
	What do you expect in Kentucky when Mitch McConnell's former staffer, who distances himself from President Trump until his very last campaign ad when he's desperate, gets beat?
	Or what about Virginia?
	Okay, it's tough that we didn't take back the Senate or even maintain control of the House.
	But you've got to remember what happened in 2021.
	2021 with Governor Glenn Youngkin was an anomaly and occurred because of what?
	Because of one of the most unpopular men in history, Terry McAuliffe being his rival and saying just days before the election at a public debate that parents shouldn't have a say in the education of their children.
	That's why Glenn Youngkin won.
	But if you look at New York, incredible results!
	We even won a seat in the Bronx!
	The Bronx, guys!
	What does that tell you when it's really bad?
	They come over to us or they can't be bothered to vote.
	If you're really depressed about yesterday then listen to Dan Bongino's podcast today.
	I'm not supposed to advertise other people I guess but he's a buddy and man does he get it.
	As a man who ran in Maryland who came one point from winning In a completely Democrat state, his analysis was so on point.
	The issue is about brands and energy.
	The brand of the GOP is in the gutter.
	Nobody... Who's excited about the GOP?
	Nobody!
	But when it comes to real excitement for an individual candidate, We've got that in Donald Trump.
	Is anybody excited?
	Excited about Joe Biden?
	What we have to understand is the dynamics of tribe versus top of the ticket.
	Of the collective vice the person at the top.
	The GOP brand is the problem and also the mechanics.
	When we win it's sometimes just Accidental.
	It's because of the individual candidate, like President Trump.
	It's not because of institutional success.
	Let me give you an example, and hopefully you can hear me rustling these papers.
	Where I live in Virginia, what did the Virginia GOP do?
	I can't begin to think how much this cost.
	They got door hangers.
	Plastic bags to hang on people's doorknobs.
	And in each one there were 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, I'm not making this up, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 pieces of campaign literature from the candidates.
	this up. 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 pieces of campaign literature from the candidates. Now Eric,
	you're a bit of a, well not a bit of...
	You're a lot of a political junkie.
	But for the average American who's had a hard day at work, comes home, just wants to kick off their shoes and watch some, you know, Netflix.
	What do you think they do with this when they get home?
	This dozen pieces of literature.
	Do you think they sit down and analyze it and then make themselves a sample ballot?
	The only decision they make at that point is does this go in the trash or the recycle bin?
	BINGO!
	I mean, God bless everyone who planned this, but let me share with you what happened to me outside the polling station yesterday, where I was working.
	Yes, I was working.
	Handing out sample ballots, because my wife asked me to.
	She was a chief election officer inside the building and I was helping out the GOP.
	A guy who recognized me, good guy, after he votes, he comes up to me and he says, My kids are going to vote and I was trying to get them the information because it's a huge ballot and nobody's party affiliations are noted.
	There's no RODs.
	How do we know who to vote for?
	People aren't going to read these and internalize it.
	And he said it took him an age to find the sample ballot for his kids.
	That should have been the first thing.
	There should have been just one big box.
	Plug in your zip.
	If you're in this county, in this district, these are the people on the ticket you vote for.
	Why can't we do that?
	Instead of wasting millions of dollars on things that are going to go straight into the recycling, we need to be as organized as the other side.
	Truly.
	And how about this?
	He asked me, do you need to be a police officer to run for sheriff?
	In my county, There was no Republican candidate.
	I'm sorry.
	He said I would have run.
	I don't have any law enforcement background, but how can we justify with the current crime crisis not even having a candidate for sheriff?
	Inexcusable.
	So if you want to draw some conclusions about yesterday, well, I wonder how hard it's going to be for the establishment to blame President Trump.
	Pretty hard if you look at his polling figures, vice the current incumbent, trouncing him in every swing state except Wisconsin.
	So guys, Let's get smart.
	Let's make it easier for our side to vote and to know who to vote for.
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	🎵 Mike Soth, when you said that they had to put it in a bag
	on your doorknob, and then 11, I'm like, I remember my doorknocking days years ago.
	We never put that many on.
	Look at this.
	We would get yelled at for putting one thing on people's doorknobs.
	Look at this.
	That's insanity.
	I know.
	That's an over, that's, again, the Republicans just overload information.
	Like, we gotta make sure we cover every single person.
	Like, oh, that's bad.
	Yep.
	That's a whole new level of bad right there.
	And you know they're well-meaning, you know, keep them information and let's give them all the facts.
	Do you think the Democrats need this to vote?
	No.
	Absolutely not.
	No.
	DC42 in the chat says, apparently on Charlie Kirk's show earlier today, he said Trump should call on Rona McDaniel to resign as RNC chair and let Vivek take over as RNC chair.
	Is Boris here?
	Jeff went to go get him.
	Alright.
	Can somebody just grab me a soda?
	You wanna go?
	Thanks.
	There's more in the fridge.
	I got some more.
	Yeah.
	We have to record this.
	Is this audio or video, Alex?
	The fellowship?
	Yeah.
	That's audio.
	All right, let's do it.
	Go on.
	Come on.
	You don't have to shut it.
	Come on.
	Thank you.
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	rabbis yes yeah and then for the monologue doc you might come up what really happened in the election
	what really happened in the election yeah
	you play caught one Cut One.
	What, in your view, would happen if he were to be re-elected?
	Oh, I can't even think that, because I think it would be the end of our country as we know it.
	And I don't say that lightly.
	You know, I hated losing, and I especially hated losing to him because I had seen so
	many warning signals during the campaign.
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	In the meantime, what's happening on the other side of the aisle?
	Let's listen to the one and only the sagacious former Speaker Newt Gingrich about the Democrat Party.
	Cut six.
	What you're seeing on the hard left is not a political problem, it's a mental health problem.
	These are people who genuinely are out of touch with reality.
	They live in a very strange, paranoid world.
	They have, you know, I mean, people, for example, who can rally in favor of cutting off the heads of babies are pretty sick.
	It's not just a political argument.
	The people you showed a while ago on the floor of the House, who were babbling some of them almost incoherently, they're defending a level of terrorism that takes you back to the Middle Ages.
	This is barbaric behavior.
	And yet, in their minds, it's all perfectly appropriate.
	So, they could easily have been the person walking up to that poll worker in Virginia.
	And it tells you, I think, how deeply fanatical the hard left has become.
	Indeed.
	Deeply fanatical.
	It's a mental problem.
	But what do we do about it?
	Is there anything to be done?
	Let's ask the man who is advising President Trump right now.
	Also one of his attorneys.
	My former White House colleague, former special assistant to President Trump.
	We just call him the Baron!
	Boris Epstein, welcome in studio.
	Great to be here.
	Two weeks in a row.
	I know.
	It's a lot of energy.
	We love it when you're in studio.
	We get to tap in the insights of the President's Senior Advisor.
	Look, I don't think anybody's going to argue with you that this is a mental condition, what the left is suffering from.
	Let's give a little bit of proof here.
	This was yesterday.
	Ilhan Omar talking about the situation in the Middle East.
	And just ask yourself, is this a normal person?
	Cut three.
	What is true here is that every single one of them has not acknowledged the fact that Palestinians are dying in the tens of thousands, but will continue to say it is us who are not acknowledging humanity.
	Rashida will stand strong and the Palestinian movement will continue for liberation until every single Palestinian has the right to live in liberty.
	I missed her acknowledging the death of Israeli children, but does that sound like someone who's mentally stable, Baron?
	No, neither does someone who marries their brother for a visa.
	Oh, I forgot.
	Yes, indeed.
	So that they could get into America.
	Right.
	That's a little bit illegal.
	That's illegal, and it's also a mental problem.
	It's perverse!
	It's a terrible combination.
	In all seriousness, what you're seeing, I think, among Democrats now, all over the country, and liberals worldwide, is derangement that's grown and mushroomed, and at the very core of it, of course, is Trump derangement syndrome, which they suffer from so terribly.
	These things are connected, right?
	If you hate Israel, you're going to hate President Trump.
	If you hate Israel, if you hate America, you're going to hate President Trump.
	If you love President Trump, you stand with President Trump, you stand with America, you stand with Israel, and you stand against terror.
	And it's very important to talk about that, right?
	Because, you know, for a lot of people, you know what's going on in Ukraine and what's going on in Israel.
	How does this really connect?
	The reason this matters.
	In the Middle East.
	It's because the people who are killing Jewish children and mothers and grandmothers and babies, those people want to murder us.
	They want to kill us right here in the United States.
	And we've got to stop them there, and we've got to stop them here.
	And it's a combination of annihilating them and closing our southern border, as President Trump has called them to do.
	Yeah.
	It truly is one war, one fight.
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	All right, let's talk about what happened yesterday across America.
	Here we have a former Republican who has a breakfast morning show.
	He's called Joe Scarborough on one key issue that many say is the problem for Republicans.
	Cut 10!
	So Donald Trump should expect to see all of these victims of rape.
	All of these victims, these women who were bleeding out because they couldn't get treatment because of Donald Trump.
	Literally.
	And because of Leonard Leo.
	And because of Leonard Leo's Supreme Court.
	Because of the radicals on the Supreme Court.
	He can expect to see those girls Those girls who had to flee the state when they were raped by an illegal immigrant.
	Those girls who had to flee the state because they were raped by a member of their own family.
	Women who were told they need to bleed out in a parking lot rather than get treatment.
	Women told that the doctors were afraid to even provide life-saving care to them because they might get arrested because of Donald Trump.
	This is not an example of mental patience.
	If there'd been one story, one story, of a woman bleeding out in a parking lot because she couldn't get an abortion, it would be on the mainstream media front page for months.
	For months.
	However, those people are insane.
	Talk to us about the abortion issue, because I don't buy it, that this is the neuralgic third rail.
	You hear what the president says, he says, look, there are ways... It's very specific.
	Yeah, it's very specific.
	It's the Reagan approach.
	It's abortion is illegal after a certain time period, as he's talked about, after a certain time period.
	And he said that it's up to the states.
	Right, which is the whole point of what his associate justices did in the Supreme Court.
	Roe v. Wade is garbage law.
	You're a lawyer.
	It's not law.
	The prenumbra of privacy between a patient... They made up a right.
	Justice Blackmun said that.
	They made up a right.
	And so, okay, let's shove it back to the states.
	So when it comes to... It's up to the states.
	It's up to the states, as it should be.
	In 2024, I don't know, Boris.
	You're the strategist.
	You work on so many campaigns.
	I don't think this is going to be the clincher issue.
	It's going to be crime.
	It's going to be the border.
	It's going to be gas prices.
	Am I missing something?
	President Trump's been very clear that it's up to the states, and that it's up to the states to set a time after which abortion is illegal.
	But he's also been very consistent that he takes the regular position of the key exemptions for rape, incest, and health of the mother.
	That is in full contrast to what those ludicrous idiots are saying.
	And I totally agree with you.
	That the economy, oil prices, the border, security, national security, and most of all, personal safety.
	Personal safety are going to be what drives 2024.
	And they're trying to pick and choose.
	First of all, the governor of Kentucky is a popular governor and he won re-election.
	And Mitch McConnell's staff didn't win.
	challenge. I'm trying to talk about the other one.
	Well, the other two governor races that we won.
	New Orleans?
	Yeah.
	We need Heaven, don't talk about that.
	We're going to break it down more with the Baron Boris Epstein.
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	We'll be back with the Baron in a second.
	the second.
	Daniel Cameron was a rising star in the Republican Party until he decided to throw his lot in with Donald Trump.
	I mean, let's face it, Donald Trump is political and electoral poison down ballot.
	Down ballot, his endorsement has led to Republican defeats in the Senate and the House in 18.
	In 20, we lost the United States Senate and the White House.
	In 22, we underperformed miserably.
	And tonight, you're seeing us lose again.
	That Democrats shouldn't panic?
	That they shouldn't panic?
	Yeah.
	Because... Yeah.
	Democratic election results, since Joe Biden has been leading the Democratic Party, have been excellent for Democrats.
	But is that because of the poll?
	The polling results, sure, are worrying.
	Troubling, yeah.
	And it means that the Biden re-election effort needs to, you know, double, triple, quadruple its efforts.
	But the only polls that matter are the votes.
	And the votes that have been cast in every election since Biden has been at the top
	have been great news for Democrats.
	Okay, give me eight.
	On the issue of abortion, in Ohio tonight we continue the losing streak in the pro-life movement.
	Every ballot initiative has been lost post-OBS for the pro-life movement.
	As a party, Sean, we must, we must not just be a pro-baby party.
	That's a great thing.
	We must be a pro-mother party.
	We need a national strategy.
	And I talked to Mike Johnson about this.
	We'll air that tomorrow on Outnumbered.
	There's legislation we must put forward as a party to support.
	In Springfield, Massachusetts, Justin Hurst is running for mayor.
	And he's been accused of paying people to vote for him.
	A surveillance video allegedly shows the candidate dropping voters off at City Hall for early voting.
	The voters then come back out, show their I Voted Early sticker, and then get paid cash.
	The candidate then pulls his car back up and picks up the voters who just got paid.
	Hurst denies it.
	Accusations that my team paid residents in exchange for their vote is unequivocally false.
	Can you pull the software update from the screen calling page?
	Just keep playing it.
	I'm listening.
	And a last minute smear campaign.
	Sure.
	And it's probably never happened before.
	Last night we told you that in Patterson, New Jersey, a politician was charged with personally taking mounds of mail-in ballots, destroying ones that voted against him, and making new ones that vote for him.
	And how do the politicians themselves get their hands on the ballots?
	And that's probably never happened before either.
	And then there's Bridgeport, Connecticut.
	A judge just overturned a primary election because...
	Mm-hmm.
	Right, right, right, right.
	Come in with cut 2.
	I'm going to be a little bit more quiet.
	I'm going to be a little bit more quiet.
	Music.
	I can't believe I have to say this, but Palestinian people are not disposable.
	We are human beings, just like anyone else.
	My sithi, my grandmother, like all Palestinians, just wants to live her life with freedom and human dignity we all deserve.
	They are humans, just like everybody else, but it's so strange that you have a complete inability to say that about Israelis or Jewish children.
	Why is that?
	Is that because you're racist or an anti-Semite?
	These are the reactions to the censure and it's not censored.
	Guys, please, even conservative show hosts.
	It's not censor.
	Censoring is something different.
	This is censure.
	It's a parliamentary device of Rashida Tlaib.
	And, well, we know why she says that, or why she can't say that.
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	I need your assistance, Baron.
	We are 51 and a half weeks away from the election.
	What is going to happen to the current incumbent?
	Let's listen to the The desperate tap dancing around Biden's lack of popularity that Rachel Maddow is demonstrating on a CBS Cut12.
	But what's the point you're making?
	That Democrats shouldn't panic?
	That they shouldn't panic?
	Yeah.
	Democratic election results since Joe Biden has been leading the Democratic Party have been excellent for Democrats.
	And so the polling results, sure, are worrying.
	Troubling, yeah.
	And it means that the Biden re-election effort needs to, you know, double, triple, quadruple its efforts.
	But the only polls that matter are the votes.
	And the votes that have been cast in every election since Biden has been at the top have been great news for Democrats.
	She sounds worried.
	Double, triple, quadruple, maybe quintuple.
	They know Biden is the problem, don't they?
	Of course.
	They know that Biden's the problem.
	They also know that President Trump on the ballot versus the sad, decrepit, incompetent, corrupt Joe Biden is going to be a very impactful result because the American people in droves are rejecting Joe Biden.
	They want nothing to do with Joe Biden.
	So what happens if we get to six months from now or we get to the convention?
	Do they convince him not to run and pull out Newsom from the hat like a rabbit?
	I think it's going to be very difficult for them.
	Very difficult.
	Right now, the infrastructure is largely set for them to have Joe Biden.
	And Biden would have to agree to it.
	He seems pretty stubborn.
	And Jill wouldn't allow it.
	Plus, where would Hunter store the cocaine?
	He's gotta put it so he needs to have it in the White House.
	Right.
	Those little cubby holes for the cell phones are good for the little baggies.
	In all seriousness, the Bidens are not here for the American people.
	No.
	They're not here for the Democrat Party.
	They're here for themselves.
	Now, you mentioned Hunter.
	I tweeted it out this morning that the chairman of the committee, Comer, has signed today the subpoenas for Hunter Biden, for Jim Biden.
	I know it's like nine months late.
	Will this have a political impact?
	We'll see.
	It's got to develop.
	It's got to actually move forward.
	We'll see what happens when they likely defy the subpoenas and not show up.
	So, does it have an opportunity to be something real and finally call them to account?
	Absolutely it does.
	But we'll see how the process moves from here on forward.
	I think that's what matters.
	But the American people already know they're a bunch of crooks.
	It's effectively built in.
	The crooked Joe Biden, the corrupt Biden, the crime family, it's clear.
	I mean, how does he have all the homes he has?
	What did Hunter do to earn any of that money?
	They've been selling Americans out for decades and decades and decades and decades, and it's time to stop.
	And that's why you're seeing President Trump dominating in those state-by-state key battleground polls.
	You see him dominating in the national polls.
	In the teens in California between Biden and President Trump.
	I have to ask you that we've been mentioning this New York Times poll for a couple of days now where in five of the six battleground states the president is trouncing Biden.
	I've heard people say it's a New York Times poll and it's a diversion.
	They're trying to make our side overly confident.
	What do you say to that?
	I think if anything, it's a New York Times poll just like the CNN poll yesterday that has President Trump up by four, up by six with RFK Jr.
	in the race.
	I think those are depressed polls.
	I think in reality... So it's actually bigger?
	I think the numbers are bigger.
	Than also Wisconsin?
	I think President Trump is trouncing Crooked Joe and the Democrats.
	All right, we've been talking to the Baron in studio.
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	Let's go to Violet in San Jose.
	Okay.
	Good Tuesday to you, Dr. Gorka.
	Greetings!
	Two things.
	Number one, you were speaking about the election and Donald Trump's numbers.
	Well, my feeling is if the elections aren't going to be fixed by That's my feeling.
	What do you think?
	Well, what do you mean they're going to cheat?
	They've been cheating since Joe Kennedy bought all the dead votes in Chicago for his son in 1961.
	Donald Trump can have a million more votes.
	He's not going to win.
	So what are you saying?
	Are you saying we give up?
	Nope.
	Let's fix the election.
	Well, of course, but what are you doing to fix it?
	Oh my goodness.
	You know, I, I'm a staunch believer that the election was stolen.
	No, no, no.
	What are you doing, Violet, to fix it?
	I'm prefacing it.
	So, I volunteer for voting.
	For what?
	What do you do exactly?
	Poll watching or taking in the votes, but that more importantly, I'm approaching our Santa Clara County registrar voters to see if we can get those little devices that.
	Mike Lindahl has come up with to show that election machines are connected to the internet.
	You need to become an election officer like my wife, okay?
	If you think that you can just be a poll watcher, it's not good enough, or stand outside, or try and get some new technology, no.
	You need to become an official of the county.
	Don't call in a radio show and say they're going to cheat anyway.
	Stop them.
	My wife got up at 4.30 yesterday in the morning and came home at 10 because she was the chief election officer.
	That's what you need to do.
	Thank you, Violet.
	Let's go to Don, Los Angeles.
	Dr. G, Rolling Thunder on the right.
	How are you today?
	Good!
	I'm actually better than I thought.
	Oh, great.
	Glad to hear it.
	You know, I wanted to call on Manhood Hour Day, but I was detained.
	But I've got to recommend this book to you.
	I think you would love it.
	Yes!
	It's called Last Stands, Why Men Fight On When All Is Lost.
	It's written by A gentleman named Michael Walsh, phenomenal writer, I've never heard of him before.
	There's this great blurb on the cover by Victor Davis Hanson.
	Oh my gosh!
	VDH, say no more!
	I'm gonna go online, I'm gonna buy it now.
	Listen, one of the great insults in this book, it's classic, he writes, this is Mr. Walsh, he says, A man cannot change his essential masculine way of seeing the world, one in which the strong survive and the weak perish, whether he be a gladiator, a Wall Street arbitrageur, or even a Capon-voiced NPR commentator.
	Capon-voiced!
	Oh my gosh, I know who this is!
	I know who this Michael Walsh is!
	I've actually just written a chapter for Michael Walsh in his new book coming out next year.
	Oh my God!
	Phenomenal!
	Superb!
	He wrote another book, I warmly recommend to you, The Devil's Pleasure Palace.
	It's about critical theory and the subversion of the West.
	He's doing a new thing on neo-Marxism and I wrote a chapter on the role of the media.
	Yes, Michael Walsh is a very smart guy, worked in media for 40 years, but I wasn't aware of Last Stance.
	I want to thank you for bringing that to my attention.
	Stay on the line and let's get Let's get him, let's get Don the new Our Fight mug.
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	Wow, I'm ordering this right now.
	That's superb.
	Let's go to Klaus, California, line two.
	All right, Dr. G listeners, it's time to get busy and stop BMWing.
	Hat tip to Sir Larry Elder, with that acronym.
	Okay.
	I just redid my voter registration and I'm going to be a poll watcher next year.
	Yes!
	So we need to, you know what?
	Most of us, I'm pretty sure, 99% of us did not storm Normandy Beach, the largest sea invasion to ever happen on this planet.
	We can step it up a bit and make some, you know, just some small sacrifices and go pull, watch, go distribute pamphlets.
	Don't distribute the 10 pamphlets in a plastic baggie.
	That's a very Hate to say it, loom or moo, we don't have time for that.
	There are no stay-at-home moms, really, anymore that have time to read all that literature.
	You need to condense it.
	You need better marketing.
	Get with the program.
	Oh, and oh, by the way, Rona McDaniel needs to go.
	Yep, I think we've got somebody who echoes your sentiment exactly, Klaus.
	Yes, so glad you volunteered.
	Let's go to George on Rona McDaniel, Columbus, Ohio.
	Hi, Dr. G. Hey.
	If I could hit two points real quick on two different issues.
	You've got a minute.
	You've got to be super quick.
	Go ahead, George.
	Ronnie McDaniel's got to go.
	Everything that happened last night is her failure.
	Instead of going back to the drawing board and fixing things, she's more interested in tonight's debate on who's going to be in Trump's cabinet.
	Also, the girl who did the killings in Tennessee, everybody notices the hate on white people, but she also uses the F-word, derogatory, towards homosexuals.
	She did, yeah.
	The Nashville shooter, the transgender baby killer, whose manifesto was released this week, used the derogatory F-word for homosexuals.
	Isn't that interesting, George?
	And I also see a pattern here because there was a gay guy that shot up a nightclub.
	Correct.
	The Pulse nightclub.
	You're absolutely right.
	In fact, there have been five transgender mass shooters in just the last five years.
	I will... George, nicely done.
	I will be talking about them in my monologue on my Newsmax show this Sunday.
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	the psychosis of the Democrats Is there anything
	The whistleblowers are not lying.
	They're telling the truth.
	And what we saw from David Weiss was obfuscation, dodging, ducking, and weaving.
	He only would agree to talk about his authority, and even that he was He was trying to kind of feather that out a little bit so he wouldn't tell you exactly.
	You just kept saying he felt he had the authority, but we never really got to... I asked him, who gave you the authority and when and how, but you know, it just never really materialized.
	But what he did is on every question of substance, he said, like an ongoing investigation, you know, that was some kind of prerogative that we can't talk about.
	And then four, please.
	And this is a wake-up call, not only for Israel, not only for the Jewish community, this is a wake-up call for all of you.
	All of you here, all of America, all of Europe.
	You are next.
	You are next.
	And we should do everything that we can to stop these atrocities.
	Come in with that.
	And this is the wake up call, not only for Israel, not only for the Jewish community,
	This is a wake up call for all of you.
	All of you here, all of America, all of Europe.
	You are next.
	You are next.
	And we should do everything that we can to stop these atrocities.
	Incredibly powerful message from a brother of one of the people still in captivity in the Gaza saying on Capitol Hill you're next pay attention you're next as we put on the t-shirt with the photograph of the president at the Temple Mount at the wall our fight in English and Hebrew available at sebgorkastore.com Continuing the discussion yesterday two calls on Kentucky let's go to Louisville Wendy line three Yes.
	There's two places where I work.
	I worked yesterday.
	Thank you.
	And Cameron voted there.
	And you said that they said that because of Trump and all this other stuff that...
	Wendy, you're not being very clear, Wendy.
	What is the point you'd like to make?
	Okay, the point is, Cameron was the only Republican, I mean, who lost.
	All the rest of the statewide Yeah, because Kentucky is a very conservative state, and I think people sniffed out the fact that Cameron is a, you know, worked for a rhino.
	I mean, he's Mitch McConnell's former staffer.
	I think you've perfectly explained it, Wendy, that, you know, Kentucky is a conservative state, and they sniffed out who this person is.
	But thank you for your work yesterday.
	Let's stay on this topic.
	Let's go to Robert, line five.
	Yeah, thanks for taking my call.
	One point about this and one point about Israel.
	Kennedy tweeted out, like you just were talking about, that the AG and the Secretary of State, the Republicans, won by 16 to 21.
	But the governor, they lost.
	So you just explained it.
	But he also retweeted somebody talking about there was a gas leak or something, and 100,000 ballots all of a sudden coming, being found out.
	Hang on.
	Where was there a gas leak?
	Where were ballots?
	Who's reporting this?
	He retweeted it.
	The other thing is about Israel.
	whatever his cat-erg.
	Cat-erg.
	Cat-erg.
	Oh, cat-turd.
	Cat-turd.
	Yes, I know that Twitter handle.
	Yes.
	He retweeted it.
	He retweeted it.
	So, I don't know.
	So, the other thing is, the other thing is about Israel.
	You know, shame on Obama for making a horrific thing about, you know, 1400 people being killed,
	how horrible it is.
	But, it's like entirely occupation.
	I just want to point out that if anyone's occupying anything, it's the Palestinians occupying the Jewish land of, you know... Correct, of Judea and Samaria.
	You nailed it.
	Absolutely, Robert.
	If there is any occupation in the Middle East, it is the Arabs on the ancient, ancient lands of Judea and Samaria.
	Well done.
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	and we will continue to push back and not accept this idea that you are progressive
	progressive except for full esteem any longer.
	Thank you.
	you you
	Thank you.
	Yeah, she's on.
	On the line.
	Are you concerned?
	Any concern?
	Do we have a chance?
	Three after that.
	Yeah, she's on the line.
	Hey, Jim.
	You're too far from the mic, so she probably can't hear you.
	Hey, Jen.
	She's not there.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, it dropped off.
	Oh, okay. Sorry about that.
	Okay, she's back.
	She's back.
	Oh, she's back.
	Thank you.
	90 seconds.
	Let's try that again.
	Hello?
	No, that's too crappy.
	That connection's garbage.
	Hello?
	Is it a bad connection?
	Hello?
	Can you hear me?
	No, it's going in and out.
	Are you on a cell phone?
	Let me try to call you back from let me see if I can grab the landline.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	One minute, Jen.
	It's all right.
	Let her do it.
	Just go that way.
	I can talk.
	just let it do it.
	30.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	It's debate night tonight!
	Did you know that?
	What a week it's been.
	Elections, anniversaries, and debate night.
	Tonight we'll have exclusive coverage analysis on the Salem News Channel with our buddies Andrew Wilkow, with Mike Gallagher.
	Don't miss it starting 5 p.m.
	Eastern on your Roku, your Five Stick, Apple TV, Google TV, you name it!
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	That's starting tonight.
	Oh, 5 p.m.
	Pacific is the president, is President Trump delivering a speech, so don't miss that either.
	And I know somebody who's working hard today.
	Is she there?
	My good buddy, Jennifer Horne, AM 590, AM 870, the answer?
	Hello!
	I'm sad I'm not with you in my normal capacity today, but I'm all over the place because
	we're doing special debate coverage tonight because of Salem Radio's partnership with
	NBC.
	So how are you doing?
	Are you ready to see these guys battle it out for number two?
	I don't know.
	I think I might have to get a manicure.
	I'm not sure.
	I'm not sure.
	I'll probably watch the President's speech and then I might flip back and forth to see if anybody's arguing about curtains and drapes or something like that.
	But seriously, how about you?
	What are you expecting?
	We've got five contenders on the stage.
	Is it going to be the nasty, back-biting, what's-Jennifer-Horne thing?
	Well, I think the only thing I'm watching for is whether or not Tim Scott is going to be a serious candidate for President Trump to look at as a vice presidential pick.
	Because I think Tim Scott brings with him almost the same thing that Mike Pence did in 2016.
	I don't know the structure, kind of the seriousness.
	He's not going to upstage anybody.
	And I think he's someone that should be high on President Trump's list.
	And I think President Trump has said that himself.
	Clearly, if he could run without a vice president, I don't even think he needs one at this point.
	But obviously, you need somebody on the ticket with you.
	And I think Tim Scott, if he can cut through, which he hasn't been able to do the last two times, I think maybe that's most interesting to me.
	Otherwise, I think it's going to be loud.
	You're going to have Vivek Ramaswamy, who I still have decent feelings for, but he's loud.
	You've got Chris Christie, who's very, very loud.
	And then you have Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley, who are going to force themselves to be loud because they think that they're battling it out for second place.
	Loud or nasty?
	There you go.
	That's probably about right.
	And especially when it comes to Chris Christie, I think he deserves the nasty title for sure.
	And I think Rhonda Sanders and Nikki Haley will get nasty.
	This is it.
	How many more debates?
	You had to mention Krispy Kreme.
	Here's a little cut from his quote-unquote analysis of what happened in Kentucky yesterday.
	Cut 11.
	Daniel Cameron was a rising star in the Republican Party until he decided to throw his lot in with Donald Trump.
	I mean, let's face it, Donald Trump is political and electoral poison down ballot.
	Down ballot, his endorsement has led to Republican defeats in the House, in the Senate rather, and the House in 18.
	In 20, we lost the United States Senate and the White House.
	In 22, we underperformed miserably.
	And tonight, you're seeing us lose again.
	Isn't it really strange, though, Jennifer, that the former governor of New Jersey somehow missed the fact, or forgot to mention, that Cameron is a former staffer for Mitch McConnell?
	I'm sure it was no precise.
	Right.
	I mean, if Kentucky did anything, They were rejecting Mitch McConnell.
	And as a good friend of mine, a former White House colleague, pointed out to me this morning, Cameron only embraced President Trump a few days ago with his last TV ad when he realized he was losing.
	So what does that really tell you about the race in Kentucky?
	You know, the obsession to make every race about Donald Trump.
	The only race that's really about Donald Trump is going to be the one that he's in for the presidency in 2024.
	And it's like this compulsion in the Republican Party and in the... and not even with real Republicans, with Republicans who are kind of in the rhino shelter at the moment to make every race about him.
	When truly, if we really want to win again in 2024 or 2026 or any new election, we better look in the mirror.
	And we have a serious problem and Ronna McDaniel should be at a podium today explaining what we're going to do to get better results moving forward because we have a problem with activating Republicans.
	There are far more many, far many more non-profit groups that are working to turn out voters early
	on the Democrat side than are on the Republican side.
	So we need to figure out how to capitalize on the new rules.
	That's number one.
	And we'd better figure out what to do as a party about abortion, because one thing
	Ronald McDaniel has been right about is that that's the single issue for Democrats in
	every case.
	And we have found that this nation is losing itself morally, and that we need to now figure
	out how to answer all the people who want the freedom to go kill their babies.
	And I hate to say that, because it makes me sick to say that.
	But as a party, we'd better figure out how to answer that.
	And we'd better start making other issues more emotional, because you know the commercial
	I'm talking about, where put the candidate in there who goes walking down the street
	and he says, well, I'm the pro-gun guy.
	I'm the pro-truth guy.
	I'm the pro-everything guy.
	Well, that's great.
	But give people something emotional.
	If you're running in California, go stick your cowboy boot in a pile of human waste
	on the street.
	Make it emotional so that we connect with people, because Democrats are using the most
	emotional issue to win.
	And one more thing about Kentucky.
	Brashear was leading in the polls by a minimum of eight points going into election day.
	So to try to pretend that he wasn't really the odds-on favorite and that there was a real opportunity for Cameron, it's just not, it's not honest.
	It's not fair.
	Can I test something out on you?
	So with this whole abortion thing, because I think it's massively overblown when it comes to elections, because if you look at the actual figures, It's only mobilizing and it only makes a difference when it's the only issue, when it's a referendum, right?
	I don't think there's any candidate who you can point to empirically and say they lost because they were pro-abortion or anti-abortion because that's not how Americans vote.
	I mean, if it's referenda, yes, but if it's anything else, how can we not say that crime, for example, or the economy or the border Doesn't have as mobilizing effect.
	I think, well, okay, I'm with you on what you've just said.
	I believe that to be true because I vote for a whole plethora of issues because I'm not just focused on this one, but I do think that there is a large block of the Democrat Party who will say, I will stand with whoever is going to stand against that white guy, that white man, telling me what to do with my body.
	So we have to figure out how candidates can answer that.
	But I think also where I agree with you, and I guess what I'm saying, and maybe should rephrase a little better, is that Any Republican candidate who runs, anywhere from President Trump down to Dog Catcher, they won't be Republican.
	I guess that's probably out of the question, but we have to do a better job of connecting emotionally.
	I think there are a lot of people who just think that people are thinking with their brain, going, gosh, crime is terrible, the border's open, national security risk, but we need to start connecting emotionally with people.
	And that's where President Trump does it every single time, because he understands how to present the issues In a way that connects to people's hearts.
	All right, so big question.
	Who's going to be the next to drop out out of the five, Jen?
	Out of these five?
	I think these guys might be in it for a while.
	I think maybe Tim Scott might be the next.
	And you think Vivek is going to give in to his petulant side again tonight?
	Yes.
	A bit of hesitation there.
	At least a nanosecond.
	Only about a blink.
	Yeah, no, unfortunately, I think there is still going to be a lot of shouting back and forth.
	I think it's going to be fun, though.
	I'll be also checking out the Trump rally and he's getting the endorsement from Sarah Huckabee Sanders tonight, which would be nice to see them back together.
	And, you know, he's he's so smart for doing these counter-programming events literally 10 minutes away from where the debate's taking place.
	I just love it.
	And do you think Hugh Hewitt will have any chance to rein in the egos tonight?
	I hope so.
	You know, I've seen Hugh do this before, and I think that he asks fair questions, I think.
	Every once in a while he'll try to get a gotcha, ask President Trump.
	But I think that he does a great job, and I think he's going to at least attempt to be fair and to try to rein people in, because I think he's coming from this from a good place.
	You know, unlike a lot of the other mainstream media outlets that Just want to take down the Republican candidates, which we saw from Univision, wasn't it, in the last debate?
	Oh my gosh, that woman who was just making speeches from the floor.
	Incredible.
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	Watch out for the swamp creatures, Jen.
	I'm going to try to stay out of the muck.
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	Alright, mic's on.
	Yes.
	Title for that one.
	No, the quality wasn't good enough.
	Oh, okay.
	Nevermind.
	Alrighty.
	Is Barris next?
	Uh-huh.
	Yep.
	BC.
	Skype.
	I like Barris a lot.
	He was having a field day yesterday with people like, you know, the whole, oh, this, you know, hurts Trump.
	and he was like, eh, this lines up with what all the predictions were pretty much saying.
	Yeah, even he responded to a, and now I'm calling him Chamberlain.
	Well, to Neville Chamberlain.
	On the debate stuff, Scooter McDuder in the chat says, That still was probably my favorite thing from the first debate when he said, like, I understand Ambassador Haley's just trying out for a job at the boards of Raytheon or Lockheed Martin.
	She was seething when he said that.
	So good.
	That stung.
	Also gotta take a moment here.
	Scooter McDuder mentioned in the chat that unfortunately he had to put down his family dog yesterday.
	So sad.
	On that topic, the topic of the goodness and wholesomeness of dog came up.
	Jules15 asks, how is Seb's dog doing?
	8am tomorrow morning.
	I got him.
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	We shall see.
	What is this?
	Is this the Beatnik version of Barris?
	What is this?
	The Batcave, brother!
	The Batcave!
	Is that soundproofing?
	It is!
	It's soundproofing, but it's also going to be hooked up to the chroma key so I can show maps of elections behind me.
	Wow!
	With black?
	Does that work with black?
	It does.
	I have to wear something that contrasts it, but there's also this white film you can throw over top it.
	It's pretty cool.
	And they have them in white, so if you want to make states different colors, it's really neat.
	It's really neat.
	I can't wait to see.
	When are you going to go live with that?
	I hope by Super Tuesday.
	We'll be totally ready with that.
	Okay, good.
	Yeah.
	Right, well... Why, the nomination's gonna be over by then.
	Can we get it by Iowa?
	Because that's gonna be a wrap by the time we get to Super Tuesday.
	Right.
	Even with the Kim Reynolds endorsement?
	I mean, that should be... It's over!
	Kim who?
	I mean, literally, I had no idea who Kim Reynolds was.
	You mean Karen Reynolds.
	Right.
	He's honestly the one who almost lost the primary until Trump endorsed her.
	And then she won by three points.
	Lousy three points because she was so far behind.
	And she did him dirty.
	You know, it's just terrible.
	That's why she endorsed Ron.
	That's the same exact thing.
	He was going to lose the primary until he endorsed him and barely won the general.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	I didn't even realize the primary calendar this year, South Carolina is actually fourth.
	Which means, again, Scott and Haley will not drop out before then.
	Trump's gonna win the first four states.
	And Nevada also is gonna be a primary, which they were complaining about because they thought the caucus favored Trump.
	They're out of their minds.
	A primary will have more non-white voters, and Trump is killing it with Hispanics in Nevada.
	So, they have no prayer in the state.
	Want to come in and something, sir?
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	And if you're watching, just watch Megyn Kelly's face.
	Cut 14.
	Play cut.
	We are going to make this decision now.
	The Fox News decision desk has called Pennsylvania for Donald Trump.
	This means that Donald Trump will be the 45th president of the United States, winning the most Unreal, surreal election we have ever seen.
	Seven years ago today.
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	Welcome back to America First.
	Hey, thanks for having me back, Dr. Gorka.
	I was kind of crying and laughing at the same time at that moment, or I was getting over it because I honestly couldn't believe I was going to be right.
	Oh, did you get that?
	He just slid it in there.
	That I was right.
	He just slid it in there.
	I saw what you did there.
	But Rich, of course you were right.
	You're Rich Paris.
	You're the People's Pundit.
	But just the word choice from Bret Baier.
	Surreal.
	Unreal.
	Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know about the establishment, Rich?
	It does.
	And that was like culminated, that was the moment, everything culminates in that moment where, you know, remember the raise your hand, Dr. Gorka?
	They really had tried everything and then they tried to pivot to being somewhat pro-Trump but never got there.
	It was the cap, capping off one of the most incredible election cycles ever.
	It is the most incredible election cycle because nobody's seen anything like that in the modern day.
	All right, so talk to us about what it means seven years later, what happened yesterday, what we should expect tonight or for the next, you know, eleven months, three and a half weeks.
	I, you know, my wife worked her tail off for three months, knocking on hundreds of doors.
	She was an election officer from 5 a.m.
	yesterday till 10 o'clock at night.
	She was depressed this morning.
	I'm not so depressed, but you're the man who has all the data at his fingertips.
	If we win the Bronx, but Mitch McConnell's staffer loses in Kentucky, I'm not so sure that's a bad picture.
	You tell me.
	I think the party's changing, and I think people are refusing to acknowledge that the party is changing.
	After that moment that you just put up on the screen, there should have been an acceptance, somewhat, of the direction that the party was going in.
	Remember, this was a party that could not win a general election nationwide for the life of them.
	I mean, George Bush, even when he won, barely won, Dr. Gorka.
	So this inability to accept the new platform, which is really a return to the original platform of the Republican Party, in appealing to different groups that maybe they don't understand yet.
	They fought tooth and nail.
	They clawed their way, resisting.
	And this is like prolonging this identity crisis with this party.
	And I think in some areas last night, they're suffering from that.
	And I think voters are punishing them for not being who they say they are when they're in front of the camera.
	When they're next to the former president, they're super MAGA.
	The minute they're asked to do their job and fulfill the promise, they cave.
	So I think there is a turnout problem when Donald Trump is not on the ballot.
	But in Kentucky, People would be surprised.
	It's a red state at the federal level, but Kentucky's only had two Republican governors in the last half century, and neither one of them won a second term.
	So, you know, Matt Bevin came pretty close, and it was pretty astonishing, but they usually elect Democratic governors.
	Virginia, on the other hand, they hyped.
	They blew that.
	And then Ohio, It's a perfect state to point out.
	Mahoning, Trumbull, Wood, those counties where they voted for Barack Obama and then went to Donald Trump.
	That is what is at stake with the struggle in the Republican Party if they don't Uh, stop this identity crisis and evolve into America first, which won that election on the screen, then they're never going to win those counties.
	And, you know, we look at them as Trump plus 10 counties, but the electorate last night in Ohio was actually Biden plus 2.
	Right.
	I want to dig deeper on that divided party.
	these people who say I'll vote for the man but I'm not voting for the rest of
	you people or your agenda and that's that's a that should be a wake-up call
	to them instead they blame him. Right I want to dig deeper on that that divided
	party that's exactly what Dan Bongino was saying that that the Republican
	voters hate the party but love Donald Trump and I think that's pretty pretty
	much what you just said Can I just go back to Virginia, to where I live?
	You look at some of the data, and it's very interesting that Republicans won every seat that was up to nine points for Biden.
	So any seat that Biden won by nine points or less, the Republicans actually won yesterday.
	Isn't that a big deal in a state that's really a Democrat state now?
	It really is, and that's something that the establishment has done.
	This is a mistake that they continue to make.
	The president's opponents in the primaries, particularly Team DeSantis, they make this mistake, have from the very beginning.
	They hype these expectations, right?
	So wait till the launch, the Twitter launch, wait till the debate, wait till Glenn Youngkin gets involved.
	We're going to take back control of this legislature.
	It's important to be realistic.
	They still did incredibly well in Biden plus, you know, 10 and below districts.
	It's just a bluer state now.
	And because they hype it, they gave the media, you know, a narrative of failure.
	They did.
	And how significant is it that in parts of New York, the Democrats were trounced, including the Bronx-rich Long Island?
	This tells us the Siena College polling, our polling, is real.
	So we looked at New Jersey, was not great for Republicans, but there was something happening in New York when Trump lost in 2020.
	We didn't really review it because people didn't pay attention.
	They moved on, talked about where Biden did well enough to win, supposedly.
	But the truth is Donald Trump squeezed a ton of votes out of Long Island.
	He squeezed a ton of votes out of places, even New York, New York, but Kings County, Queens County, and no Republican has gotten votes like that there in a very long time.
	And then Lee Zeldin would go on to almost win the governorship.
	Something's happening.
	The Siena College polls showed big movement there, Dr. Gorka.
	They're non-whites.
	It's only a four-point shift to Trump among Catholics.
	So who else is this happening among, right?
	And men were flat, so most of this is being done by women, and last night was an important test on whether or not that was true, whether that was, you know, like Zeldin was a fluke, and whether some of the gains we see Trump making could be a fluke.
	It's not a fluke.
	They're working their butts off out there, unlike some of the other Republicans, and they're making gains with certain non-white voters and certain, you know, working-class voters that are kind of replacing this silk-stocking Republican.
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	There we go. Yep.
	Three and a half minutes.
	I see you engaged with Will Chamberlain as well.
	I think people like him, who by the way, pushed the lockdown Consistently.
	Oh, really?
	Chamberlain did?
	Oh, man, I remember getting an email from a reporter at the AP and Bloomberg over a Twitter fight back and forth about the lockdowns.
	And it was specifically asking me about public opinion.
	And I said, it doesn't matter what public opinion is now.
	Will is wrong about where we'll be in six months or a year from now.
	And that is exactly what happened.
	Of course, he flip-flopped and became an anti-lactone guy who supports Ron DeSantis, which, he didn't live in Florida when that was happening.
	I did!
	We were locked down, Dr. Gorka!
	We were locked down!
	My wife was nine months pregnant and forced to wear a diaper on her face because she worked for the school system.
	We was locked down.
	They revised history.
	And he's just, he's intellectually exhausted.
	These people don't have any more ideas.
	The Eric Ericsons... But it's worse than that.
	It's not that they don't have any ideas.
	They don't have any moral fiber.
	It's terrible.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, you're right.
	You're right.
	You're right.
	I mean, if you screwed up on lockdowns or anything else, what do you do?
	If you're a man, you bloody well apologize.
	You said, I got it wrong.
	I got it wrong on Bill Barr.
	And I've said, Mayor Culper, I got it wrong.
	But you've got to bloody own it, Rich.
	That's right.
	Chamberlain pushed, not just in the beginning, when Omicron came around, which was like a year into Biden, He was tweeting about how we should be shutting down flights from Europe and stuff.
	It was that far into it.
	There we go!
	There we go!
	Yeah, I mean look, there's been a lot that I've had to apologize for in the past.
	You know, professional, personal, man owns up to his mistakes and he moves on and becomes a better person.
	And they're incapable of doing that.
	What are they going to do when Donald Trump is no longer around to blame?
	I really wonder what some of these people are going to do without their favorite heel, right?
	When they are losing elections up and down the ballot and it's not Not because of him.
	They can't point to him and blame him.
	What happens when he wins, God willing?
	What are the Will Chamberlains, what are the Cardillos going to do when he wins?
	Yeah, and John, he's a pip too.
	The CNN poll is a great example.
	Now all of these polls are coming along and they're starting to reflect what we have found.
	It's not just that Trump is outperforming Republicans because he's beating Biden by a bigger margin than they're performing on the generic ballot.
	He's got higher support.
	He's got a higher level of support.
	And that's really what matters to me, because look at last night.
	A good turnout game could take your 47% and leave you in the dust.
	They could get from 45 to 51 with a good turnout in no time.
	So you need a president who can get these people out there, get them to vote, and buffer up against what we know they're going to do.
	And there's no chance a guy who just passed a six-week abortion ban because he wanted to win Iowa is going to be able to carry Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.
	It's never going to happen.
	He has killed himself as a general election candidate.
	We'll talk about those issues in a second, but let's have fun with Will first.
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	I want to talk about issues in the next year and how people are going to vote on issues, but you engage with somebody I engage with this morning and I haven't seen this on On Elon's Twitter in a long time, Will Chamberlain, a man who I platformed and actually had in that chair in my studio a year ago, he said, you know, we're having a really bad night, but we're sure to do better if we nominate a guy who will be a convicted felon on election day.
	Well, Will, if you're a conservative, there's a thing called innocent until proven guilty.
	And secondly, really?
	I responded the following.
	I used a naughty word.
	You're a butthole, Will.
	And you've just demonstrated your tacit acquiescence to the judicial persecution of the President.
	I regret ever giving you a platform.
	That's called owning your mistakes, Will.
	Okay?
	You and your ilk still have no idea what America did in 2016, Goodriddens.
	And I've got 280,000 impressions since this morning, so it must have resonated.
	You responded to Will as well.
	I just think he's a man without any honor.
	He jumped the Trump ship and then went full DeSantis, then DeSantis fired him two months ago.
	But just concentrate on that one sentence for me, Rich, because this is why we bring you to the show.
	You and your ilk still have no idea what America did in 2016.
	Isn't that so true for so many people in the quote-unquote political elite?
	It is, and I had said something in response to that as well, because it's not recognizing what he's not recognizing.
	Is that this is why actually you keep losing elections?
	Well, yeah, I have your response here.
	You tweet quoted him.
	Here's a great example of why voters won't get out to vote for that party, meaning the GOP.
	Listen, they have a serious representation problem.
	Currently, the guy they adore is being persecuted.
	They fully expect he will have a felony.
	That's not the point, Dr. Gorka.
	The point is that it's a corrupt system that is doing this to him.
	This is how the voters feel, and they just want somebody to stand up and defend him because he defended them.
	They don't care.
	They're not political pundits who jump ship from this one or that one, depending on what They think they can get a better paycheck with over the next six months.
	That's not how people, regular people, think.
	And if you're not going to defend him after everything he did, they don't trust you to defend them.
	They don't trust you to represent them.
	So again, like I said in the last segment, that's a great example of why they're not coming out.
	They have told the party, essentially, in many of these states—Ohio is a great example, Pennsylvania, a great example—you haven't earned our vote.
	We don't trust you.
	Right.
	Think about the fight over the Speaker with Jim Jordan.
	The phones were burning up.
	Like, I have not seen the Republican base burn up lawmakers in a long time like that on the lines.
	And they just said, we don't care.
	We don't care what you think.
	So, yesterday a lot of voters said, we don't care what you think.
	We're not supporting you.
	Can I hold you on for one more segment?
	Sure!
	Let me just slightly modify what you just said.
	It's not that they don't care if he'll be indicted or he'll be convicted.
	It actually reinforces it for them because he's getting convicted, he's getting indicted because he's standing up for the average American.
	That's exactly right.
	Right?
	It makes them even more tied to that individual who says, oh he's paying the price for me for not being a politician.
	That's what these people don't understand.
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	Gerald?
	Hey, Joe, Gerald, whatever.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	It's Gerald, not Joe.
	I live in Kentucky.
	You know, seeing the Democratic governor get back in office is a bit of a hit, but we just got to keep our eye on the prize.
	All that matters is getting Trump back in office a year from now.
	That's your comment?
	That's my comment.
	Yeah, we just got to stay focused and not get beat ourselves up or get down.
	Because we take some losses in some smaller battles.
	Agreed.
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	I think that's smart.
	Alright, so I'm gonna need for you to unpack this, you know, it's the abortion issue, it's the abortion issue that we keep hearing from the establishment.
	Yeah, I wish I would have sent over some polling, I have some polling on this, but I got it all in my head anyway, but yeah.
	What's the gist?
	Well, so we asked people, you know, you're pro-life, you're pro-choice, but then we got into it just so we can know who they were and what they identified as.
	And then we asked them about whether they supported abortion during certain time periods and then what words turned people off and what words didn't.
	So Republicans, and I actually was hired to do this work from several Republican entities, they didn't take my They didn't take my advice, Dr. Gorka.
	They buckled to the pro-life lobby.
	And the truth is, a lot of pro-choice voters don't support abortion after six months or in the late trimester, the final three months.
	I told them to go for the low-hanging fruit.
	They didn't listen.
	They went right for the jugular.
	By the way, Robert Cahaley from Trafalgar, he's done polling for South Carolina, I believe it was, the legislature.
	They didn't listen to him.
	They went right for the jugular.
	You know, 15 weeks, 20 weeks, we can get there, but it was too early to go there right away.
	Six weeks?
	Forget about it.
	You're done.
	All right.
	You know, but... All right, let's... Yeah, but there's more to it.
	Let's unpack that.
	30 seconds.
	The other thing, too, is they put weed on the ballot, too, that nobody talked about.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Numbers are identical.
	Right.
	♪♪♪ ♪♪♪
	Tomorrow, I want the House of Representatives passing legislation for men to pay women child support from the moment of conception, legislation to make the child tax credit apply to the unborn, legislation to have women have access to the supplemental food and nutrition program up to two years after childbirth.
	These are things that can be done today that will make a difference.
	But until we own this issue as a party, we will lose again and again and again.
	I'm not sure if I buy that from my former White House colleague Kayleigh McEnany that we need to have food subsidies for mothers in legislation tomorrow and that's going to solve the neuralgic point of the abortion issue.
	Let's unpack it with the man who knows so graciously staying on for an extra segment because we We are just sucking the marrow out of his wisdom when it comes to understanding how people vote in America.
	All right, so here's my take.
	As somebody who was working outside the polls yesterday, whose wife has been knocking on hundreds of doors for the last, you know, three months to get people to vote, and tell me if this is an oversimplification.
	Republicans go and vote, and they do it thoughtfully, or if they have some kind of authentic connection to a candidate.
	I think with President Trump it's a, oh my gosh, he loves America, therefore I may be a working class steel worker in Youngstown, but I like the cut of his jib.
	Having watched Democrats come to vote yesterday and I saw this one family, Rich, the parents and the kid, the kid was maybe seven years old, and they put her in a Ruth Bader Ginsburg t-shirt and I'm going, Look, I love Antonin Scalia, one of the greatest jurists of modern history, but I wouldn't put my child in a Scalia t-shirt because I don't live in a freaking cult.
	So how do Democrats vote, Rich?
	You have the data.
	And is the abortion thing this magic weapon where they say abortion, abortion, abortion, and then the whole hive comes out to vote?
	I think it's a little bit more complicated than the media's making it out, and even what Kayleigh McEnany said there, I understand the spirit of what she's saying, but there's a bigger problem.
	One is, it does motivate Democrats more than it motivates Republicans, but it doesn't mean That this is written in stone.
	It's a messaging issue, and if you're not going to have the correct message, you shouldn't try to engage on it, really.
	But they do have a message that they're not using, and Democrats are just exploiting that right now.
	So you've done some, you're telling me in the break, you've done this research, you were commissioned to do so.
	Trafalgar, you said, did some similar work.
	For example, a message that the GOP could embrace.
	When Roe v. Wade first fell, they should have went for the low-hanging fruit, which is later-term abortion, and do what Ronald Reagan said, you know, take half a loaf and come back for the other half.
	The truth is, the pro-life movement had been aided in the last Decade or so because of science pin more advances in science educated people on what you know in the 90s and in the 80s We were told it's a blob until like six months, and that's it now science knows better and so Republicans though in that time period have not
	Seized on that or taking advantage of it.
	So the voters really not educated on it and dr Gorka when we ask people whether you're pro-life or pro-choice a majority of pro-choice voters do not support abortion in late term stages after the the final trial in the final trimester a Plurality of them do not support it after 20 weeks or in the second trimester when doctors determine that a baby can feel pain so the recommendation was do not go for the first trimester or 15 week right off the rip and All right, give people time to get educated and go for the low-hanging fruit.
	The pro-life lobby won out in many of these cases, and political ambition won out, attempts to win the Iowa caucus, right?
	That won out instead of smart politics, and that exposed Republicans to this fight that, you know, that Democrats willingly engaged in.
	Do you have any inside knowledge or just a hunch?
	Because for me it's kind of like moronic.
	I mean my thing is strategy and it seems a strategic that you've won a battle I thought as a cradle catholic would never be won in my lifetime that you you strike down Roe v Wade and and then you decide to go you know berserker On the issue politically, once you've already pushed it back to the states, what on God's green earth pushed these people after that massive victory to say, Oh no!
	I've got my cake and I want another cake!
	Yeah.
	You know, I have some inside knowledge on that.
	The only thing I can tell you is in my own personal experience, I did lose the battle with the pro-life lobby.
	That's what they wanted.
	I can tell you that we, you know, we said don't go, the jugular is what we said, don't go for the jugular.
	That's how we phrased it.
	People needed time.
	Now, I remember when I was younger, I was more liberal and pro-life, I mean, on abortion myself, until my son was born, my first son.
	The first minute I looked at that ultrasound, I became very pro-life.
	But I have to understand that not everybody has that experience.
	And the truth is, there is a darkness to the polling research we did.
	There are still some people in certain generations.
	You know, I mean, Dr. Gorka, it's sad.
	Abortions are done largely among African-American women for economic reasons.
	Abortion from white women is their abortion of convenience.
	I'm not kidding.
	Some of the responses that we got were just appalling.
	I didn't want to ruin my body.
	I wanted to go to college instead.
	You know, I was getting ready to have work done.
	I mean, just crazy stuff.
	So if you thought you were going to convince them that a six-week or 15-week abortion ban was something they could get behind, I just don't know what world you're living in.
	You should have went immediately to where they recoil.
	And where they recoil is the idea that a baby that's, you know, six months in the womb or more can still be aborted.
	Or then, and then after that, you go to the Pain Protection Act or something similar like that.
	My thought this morning was, is you flip it.
	You don't talk about absolutes, even if you believe in them, because you realize that the negative reaction of those who see it as, you know, another form of contraception.
	But you talk about the fact that, hang on a second, you're 12% of the population, but black babies are aborted, 40% of all abortions, and you say, why is there this A seemingly racist abortion industry.
	Don't you kind of take the wind out of the pro-abortion sails by saying, hang on, there's this racial component and it's bad.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You can.
	Absolutely.
	That's effective.
	And you know who feels bad when they hear things like that?
	By the way, white women.
	Yes.
	They feel bad.
	And you know, I'll tell you, I, I, one thing that recoiled white women more than anything I've ever seen, we actually had done a snap poll after the debate was when Donald Trump turned to Hillary Clinton, when she tried to do this to him.
	He turned to her and he just said, Hillary, you want to rip babies out of the womb, you know, right up until the point of birth.
	You're the radical, you know, and that completely disarmed her.
	And a lot of people after that we spoke to, that was like their first introduction.
	To how draconian the abortion industry can get.
	They didn't realize it was unfettered, Dr. Gorg, at any period.
	They didn't know that.
	Right.
	I mean, just listen to the former governor of Virginia.
	Guys, just get the facts, listen to this man, just subscribe, just follow him, peoples underscore pundit and peoplespundit.locals.com, the director of Big Data.
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	Can you split it up?
	The third one should be separate.
	Yeah, the third one should be the right way for Republicans to handle the abortion question.
	the right way for Republicans to handle the abortion question. And then for the
	first two, they hate the GOP but they love President Trump.
	Don't you think that's the most important conclusion, Jeff, from yesterday?
	It's basically what Bongino said as well.
	Everybody hates the GOP, and everybody loves Trump.
	Seen as a Republican.
	That's what they don't get.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He would never come up with an idea of a child tax credit and think that you're going to
	win abortion.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And they blocked other things he wanted to do.
	He wanted to do a trillion dollar infrastructure bill and Paul Ryan and the others like, oh
	no, that's not fiscally conservative.
	We can't do that.
	Like he suggested things like an 80s center left Democrat would have come up with.
	Yep.
	And good policies.
	He's never seen as a country called a Republican, but yet he's owned some of the most expensive
	country clubs in the world.
	Yeah, but he's not a member of them.
	He doesn't hang out at them.
	He doesn't act like them.
	Do you know what he does at Mar-a-Lago?
	He sits in the middle of the dining room with his iPad, picking his favorite music.
	The music, that's great.
	I love that.
	America First!
	Magnificent.
	We've just worked it all out.
	We're gonna explain it in a second, but she's been waiting so patiently in the city of brotherly love in Philadelphia.
	Nancy, line one.
	Hi there.
	Hey!
	I keep asking myself... Where's our lawyer friend?
	Do you remember our lawyer friend?
	She was from Pennsylvania.
	Was it Lori?
	Do you remember, Jeff?
	She hasn't called in an age.
	It was Lori, yes.
	Lori, where have you been?
	Don't be a stranger.
	Sorry, Nancy.
	Carry on.
	That's okay.
	I'm also a lawyer.
	I'm sorry.
	I keep asking myself why I'm not hearing non-stop calls for the Ukrainians to pause, cease fire, etc.
	Millions of dollars in humanitarian aid can be sent to the poor Russian citizens and children.
	But I have a question.
	Is it fair to say that after Russia signed an agreement to guarantee the security and territorial integrity of Ukraine, effectively creating a two-state solution, And you see how that's worked out?
	Yeah, I see what you're doing there.
	But the two-state solution applies to the Middle East, where there's one state that exists and another territory that isn't a state.
	Because Gaza, the West Bank, these aren't actual nation states.
	They're territories, right?
	And Ukraine was actually an independent nation.
	In the Budapest Memorandum, that was a country that was re-established in 1991 with the fall of the Soviet Union.
	And sadly, the Ukrainians trusted us, they trusted the Brits, they trusted the Russians when we signed the memorandum under Bill Clinton saying, oh yes, give up your nuclear weapons and we'll protect you.
	So yeah, I like what you're doing.
	It's very canny, Nancy, and we will reward it.
	Let's give Nancy, if she doesn't have one, a signed copy of The War for America's Soul.
	That's a very sophisticated analysis.
	Stay on the line and Jeff will get your details.
	Okay, so how do we understand yesterday and how do we understand the last three years really and what's going to go forward for the next 51 and a half weeks?
	The American voter hates the GOP but loves President Trump.
	Think about this one thing.
	Jeff just said it in the break.
	It's remarkable.
	He's the former president.
	He's the leader of the opposition.
	He's 50 points ahead of anybody else.
	He's not partaking even in the debate tonight.
	But they don't look at him as a Republican.
	Right?
	It's remarkable.
	He's still the outsider.
	That's what the establishment, that's what the Will Chamberlain's, that's what all the DeSantis supporters don't understand.
	He's still the outsider and they still love him because he's fighting for them and he's not fighting for the establishment.
	A little pearl of wisdom, my friend.
	Share it with everyone you know.
	Next up!
	Communism in America?
	Is it here?
	Of course it is!
	How do we know that?
	From those who've escaped communism and have seen how it is being resurrected here in America.
	A very special one-on-one.
	Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, do not touch that dial!

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