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Oct. 18, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka
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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: The true story behind the Hamas hospital bombing
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This isn't just me thinking or saying.
This has been approved by the highest levels in the IDF.
We stand behind it and we will release the information so that everybody can see for themselves.
I am happy to be held to those standards.
And I only wish the other side, and I'm not necessarily criticizing CNN, but I only wish other media would hold the other side, Hamas, a party to a conflict, to the same professional standards of scrutiny, and not automatically say, report that this was an Israeli strike on a hospital.
And it took a lot of time and a lot of hard work to get those headlines changed.
That is perhaps the most ubiquitous spokesman for the Israeli Defense Forces today.
He is a Lieutenant Colonel in the IDF, John Konrikas, and we are honored to be able to bring him to you later today on this show.
We play the cut at the top for a very simple reason.
They're lying to you.
The mainstream media, the Jew haters, those who hate our civilization, which is a Judeo-Christian civilization, did what last night?
They blamed Israel for an explosion at a hospital in Gaza.
And they're still doing it.
Some of them are still lying about it.
Despite the fact that we now know it was Palestinian Islamic Jihad that is responsible.
They had launched a barrage of rockets from Gaza into Israel and at least one of them landed on that hospital.
But of course, who was to blame?
The Jews.
Why?
Because they hate them and they want to destroy them.
From Rashida Tlaib To the mainstream media and the Islamists around the world.
We will unpack that and so much more with our special one-on-one guest in the third hour, the man who knows more about national security than most.
We'll be talking to not only the region with Julio Rosas, but also to the IDF and Lieutenant Colonel Conricas Godwilling.
In the meantime, Can I get personal for a second?
Oh, greetings.
Welcome to America First with me, Sebastian Gorka.
Will you indulge me for the next six minutes?
This morning I sat down and I wrote a letter to my family.
I wrote a letter to my wife and to my grown children.
And the title of the letter is Safety in a time of heightened threat.
And it's my advice to the people I love the most in this world, who I want to be safe.
And you might want to just maybe use elements of my letter to my children and my darling wife.
Terrorists want you to be afraid.
Don't be afraid.
Be wise and be prepared.
Given what has happened in the last 11 days, I expect the war in Israel to escalate.
With the jihadi murder of a teacher in France and two Swedish tourists gunned down in Belgium since the Hamas attacks, plus our embassies being surrounded in the Middle East, one of them set ablaze, the spread of violence to America's shores is sadly inevitable.
As a result, we need to make ourselves harder targets for those who may want to hurt us simply because we are Americans.
What's the nature of the threat to our family, to your family?
For my family, for those that are living in the proximity to the nation's capital, To Washington, D.C., the threat is the highest, given the symbolism of the Capitol and the number of very attractive targets to terrorists.
Subsequently, I, your father, are armed at all times.
I am licensed to do so, and I'm carrying a weapon.
For my wife, I likewise encourage her to carry a weapon because she too is licensed in the state that we live in.
If you have family members who live in areas where they can get a permit to carry a handgun, they should apply now.
Some states do not require that.
You have constitutional carry.
If that is the case, Do so, but do not do that without training.
You cannot carry a gun, and you shouldn't carry a gun, if you do not know how to use it.
In the meantime, to those who don't have a permit yet, or live in areas where you cannot carry a weapon, That is a handgun.
You should look at other legal options.
Carry the best form of CS spray or mace out there.
I like Saber Red.
Saber Red is a very good company that has pepper gel, mace.
If you carry that, it's better than having nothing at all.
If you live in somewhere like California, your options are quite restricted.
However, outside of DC, outside of New York, there is a lower level of threat.
Instead of a sophisticated, coordinated terrorist attack by multiple perpetrators, The most likely scenario for violence is a sole gunman or a knife attack, as we saw in France, or a pro-Palestinian protest suddenly becoming violent.
As a result, in addition to mace, I suggest you carry with you at least one ballistic panel.
In a backpack, in a purse, they're very inexpensive.
There's a good company out there I trust called Maverick Tactical.
These Kevlar panels are very thin and very light.
They will protect you from a handgun.
I have tested them and they work.
The best scenario is, of course, not to be in harm's way.
To that end, I suggest for the time being to avoid unnecessary exposure.
That means large crowd events that are attractive to assailants because of the concentration of innocent victims.
It also includes visits to symbolic locales like New York.
Wherever you go, remember what I told you years ago when you were children.
At the mall, in a restaurant, always note all the exits.
If an attacker comes into a restaurant, people will rush to the exit they came in through.
That means they rush into the kill box.
Every restaurant, every store has a rear exit.
Use it.
If you cannot escape, if you cannot fight, understand the difference between concealment and cover.
Concealment is hiding behind a chair, but a chair won't stop bullets.
Hiding behind a structural column made of steel or concrete will protect you from a gunman's bullets.
We will not live in fear.
But for the next few weeks or months, let us make it as hard as possible for the bastards to hurt us.
When I close my letter, you are the most precious things to me and your mother.
I love you all.
I just want you to use that advice and to think about one thing.
You are responsible for your safety.
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Apparently there's an insurrection at the Capitol right now.
Like a bunch of pro-Palestine protesters are in the Cannon building.
Like a few people getting arrested.
A letter to my family.
Yup.
Letter to my family.
All right, he's up.
Hey, buddy.
Mic's on.
Hi, doctor.
How we doing?
How we doing?
Oh, I'm still kicking.
Good.
Where are you physically based?
Right now I'm in Eshkelon.
Eshkelon, OK.
I got a little bit of loss of sound there.
Can you just say a few sentences?
Testing one, two.
OK, that's better.
Live from Eshkelon.
That's better.
Yep.
And we just call you an independent journalist and put your sub stack up?
Yes, please.
Great.
I have him as author of the Fired and Mostly Peaceful book as well.
Oh, good, good, good, good.
And I have, yeah, I have the book cover.
Do you want the Yale audio here?
Show me the book cover.
Classic title.
Mostly Peaceful.
So good.
I like your shirt with the subdued patch on the shoulder.
Very tactical.
It's grunt style.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Very cool.
Who makes the shirt?
Grunt style.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Okay.
Yeah, I'll use the...
I know Sebastian well.
Listen to him.
He's with us.
Welcome back, dear friends.
Thank you, Mr. President.
The shocking, shocking images out of Israel kind of spur us, don't they?
What can we do?
Is there anything we can do?
Well, there is an amazing organization, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, that has stepped up to the plate, and we are honored to be allied with them.
Just listen to their president, Yael Eckstein, on how you can help.
This is an unprecedented situation, and we cannot do it.
We can't respond.
We can't hear the cries for food and water if we don't have your support.
So I would say to all of the listeners, I know the Salem listeners love God, that they love the Bible and believe, Now is the time to comfort, comfort my people.
And so I am asking the listeners who Pray for Israel, who love Israel, who stand with Israel, to fill that biblical mandate to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, because never in Israel's history have we needed that support more than now.
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All right, we're going to give you breaking news.
We're going to stay up to date on everything that is happening here in D.C.
There's now... Wow, is this an... Eric, is this an insurrection on Capitol Hill?
I'm pretty sure by the left's definition any protest in the Capitol complex is an insurrection, a threat to our democracy.
So the pro-Palestinian, anti-Semite protesters are inside Congress right now.
Wow!
Breaking news!
We will keep you updated on the latest, quote-unquote, insurrection.
But first, let's go to a man who knows about violence on the streets of America.
He's the author of a book, fiery, but mostly peaceful.
He's my former colleague, independent journalist, Julio Rosas, and former Marine, because there's no such thing as an ex-Marine.
Where are you?
Which nation of the world do we find you in today, Julio?
I'm currently in Eshkolon, Israel, just north of the Gaza Strip.
All right.
Well, God bless you, Julio.
Thank you for going in as a war correspondent.
Please stay safe.
You are a Marine, so you know what that means.
Talk to us about what's happened in the last 24 hours.
We saw this unbelievable reportage of the explosion at a hospital in Gaza.
We have now confirmation tracking of the missiles that were launched from Gaza.
Do you have any more clarity on what actually happened?
Is this probably Islamic Jihad, Palestinian Islamic Jihad?
Or are there still people saying, oh no, no, no, the IDF bombed a hospital?
No, I mean, there are still people claiming that this is the idea of Rashida Tlaib just today, not too long ago at a rally outside Congress repeated that, but it is absolutely not true based on the evidence that we have.
And I know personally that it's not true.
Uh, that the IDF hit it because I saw the rocket barrage that that was fired that that rocket was a part of, uh, last night outside of Sirdot, Israel.
And it wasn't just fired in one location.
Rockets were fired in multiple locations to the point where we, myself and other reporters, had to go into a bomb shelter.
Because Strador was being targeted as well, and it was only after that barrage that we then started to see the reports about this supposed, you know, airstrike on the hospital.
But it never made sense to begin with because of the timeline, you know, prior to the reports.
And then, of course, today we're seeing the daytime images and video.
And the impact site is not anywhere close to being consistent for an Israel payload, whether it's a JDAM or anything that they have in their arsenal.
The impact is more consistent with a rocket, whether it's from Hamas or the Islamic Jihad.
Right, so we're talking about magnitudes of scale.
The destruction wrought by a JDAM is very different from the destruction wrought by a dumb rocket, a Katyusha-type rocket that has a very different payload.
What else are you hearing in terms of imminent action by the IDF, whether it's Hoskett Dress Use, whether it's a land incursion?
Of course, the visit by Biden to the region complicates those matters.
Are you hearing that?
Is there any dissatisfaction?
Is there impatience amongst the Israelis that they want to see action from Bibi and his team?
Yes, because obviously they have, in a similar vein to people back home in the States, they have, after the surprise attacks, they have a distrust in the government, but they do have trust within the
military.
And I've spoken to some of the reservists who have been called up, and they are nervous,
who wouldn't be.
But they also know that action does need to be taken, because obviously what happened
on October 7th can't go unanswered.
And clearly the current leadership of Hamas is not going to be able to coexist with Israel
anymore after that.
So, for all intents and purposes, they are still in the process of making sure, Israel is making sure that they are ready to not only go into Gaza and to be successful in that, because as you and I both know, urban combat is very, very difficult, but they also have to make sure that their northern regions and their eastern regions Are adequately prepared for any pushback from other actors as well.
And so this stuff takes time.
And it did seem like last week, you know, four nights ago, three nights ago, that they were ready to go in to Gaza.
But, you know, plans changed at the last minute.
And there was also a problem with the weather.
So I think one of the reasons why it's taking a little bit of time is because they're trying to make sure who is a hostage and who is dead.
Because in the time since October 7th, the number of hostages keep increasing.
And so, not only do they have to figure out how many there are, but I'm sure they're trying to figure
out where they are.
And so that when they go in, one, they don't kill them, but also two,
to try to get them out once they do a ground invasion.
And that's going to take time, so we'll see what happens.
In the next hour, we're endeavoring to get IDF spokesman Colonel John Conricus on with us.
In the meantime, I'm sure you're talking to people on the ground, to Israelis, to IDF members.
We've only got about 30 seconds left.
What is your sense of morale amongst the fighting forces?
Are they ready to roll?
Are they eager to bring justice to Hamas?
Absolutely.
And whenever I say I'm from the United States, they say, you know, thank you for your support because we want to finally get rid of Hamas once and for all.
And the anticipation is building.
Today, there are certainly a lot more airstrikes from the IDF.
And so they're continuing to hammer away and I'm sure that once they have everything in place, you know, the Israeli government will get the order for them to go in.
His Substack you should follow right now is JulioRosas.Substack.com and his Twitter account is Julio underscore Rosas11.
Stay safe, my friend, and we will be checking in with you regularly.
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Alright guys, we have some problem with the radio transmission, so hi to everybody out there watching us on Rumble.
If you are not up to the latest occurrences on Capitol Hill, I've just published a video on my Twitter, on my Facebook, and I'm posting it now to Truth Social, that the insurrectionists, pro-Hamas insurrectionists, have taken over the Capitol.
Curious to see whether they get 51 months in prison like that lady who we discussed yesterday on the show from January the 6th.
We will keep you updated but there are hundreds of people inside Congress right now.
As Jeff said, Jeff, what should Congress be doing now as the insurrectionists are taking over the buildings?
Um, we're trying to elect a new speaker, which is an official government, uh, procedure.
And if you interfere with that, that's, uh, I think like 20 years, it's like 25 years in prison.
That's sedition, isn't it?
Yeah.
I mean, when you look at it, it's worse than Pearl Harbor in 9-11.
Wow.
You're so right.
We're in the middle of choosing a new speaker, which means this is worse than the civil war, right, Jeff?
It's the worst thing the world's ever seen.
Eric, do you agree with Jeff's analysis?
It's a desecration of a temple of our democracy, as Nancy Pelosi says.
Oh, indeed!
Yes, if you think we're just taking the mickey here, what if Nancy's going to say this about the events of today?
Here she is on MSNBC talking about Jim Jordan and the desecration of democracy.
Cut seven.
They were in denial about the election.
And for all the horror of that day, the violence, the desecration of the capitalist temple of democracy in the world, the violation of our Constitution to have that day being the acceptance of the Electoral College vote, the whole thing, the assault on our democracy, after we went back To the Capitol, took the vote.
Yeah.
Overwhelmingly, the Republicans voted against accepting the results of the Electoral College.
Yeah.
And this person that they're putting forth to be Speaker of the House, it's just appalling.
Desecration of democracy happening right now on Capitol Hill.
Pro-Hamas protesters.
We'll keep you updated.
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Line one, Pittsburgh, Dave.
Good afternoon.
Greetings.
How are you today?
Not bad.
What are you wanting to share with us?
A question, a comment?
Well, a couple points I'd like to...
To make Biden seems he's oblivious to the fact that when he gives a million for relief to Gaza Hamas is the first in line with their hands out through some shill and they're doing it for peaceful purposes.
You know, they want they want tons and tons and tons of concrete It's not to build homes or stores It's to build tunnels underneath the city and then the six billion dollars, um, you know, that's that's frozen but You had Wink and Blinkin and Nod say, oh, not one penny is spent.
But you know, when you take a look at it, depending upon how they worded it, okay, they're not allowed to touch the six billion principle, but that's making about $27 million a day in compound interest, compounded daily at 0.45%.
So yeah, they can't touch it for a month, but that pays for a lot of rockets.
Well, let's listen to the man himself.
This is the beta male Tony Blinken saying, oh, don't worry about it.
We'll write nasty letters if Hamas steals the aid.
Cut eight.
Play cut.
Today, and at our request.
The United States and Israel have agreed to develop a plan that will enable humanitarian aid from donor nations and multilateral organizations to reach civilians in Gaza, and them alone, including the possibility of creating areas to help keep civilians out of harm's way.
It is critical that aid begin flowing into Gaza as soon as possible.
We share Israel's concern that Hamas may seize or destroy aid entering Gaza, or otherwise preventing it from reaching the people who need it.
If Hamas in any way blocks humanitarian assistance from reaching civilians, including by seizing the aid itself, we'll be the first to condemn it, and we will work to prevent it from happening again.
Oh, well that's okay.
If they take the millions of dollars in aid and they buy more rockets and more guns, that's alright.
They'll tell them not to do it again.
Oh my gosh, can we get some leadership back in the White House?
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Think it's okay to bomb a hospital with children?
Oh, no!
Oh, man.
You know what's so hard sometimes is watching those videos and the people telling the kids don't cry and like let them cry.
And they're shaking and some of you know this, they keep telling them not to cry in Arabic.
They can cry.
I can cry.
We all can cry.
If we're not crying, something is wrong.
And so I'm telling you right now, President Biden, not all Americans with you on this one.
and you need to wake up and understand that.
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Who's the chief insurrectionist?
I think we found the Ray Epps of today's invasion of the Capitol by pro-Hamas, pro-terrorist, leftist lunatics.
Of course, it's Rashida Tlaib who, outside Congress, Well, encourage them just like Ray Epps did.
Listen to this lunatic, pro-Hamas, crazy congresswoman, Rashida Tlaib.
I think it's okay to bomb a hospital with children.
You know what's so hard sometimes is watching those videos, and the people telling the kids don't cry, and like, let them cry!
And they're shaking, and some of you know this, they keep telling them not to cry in Arabic.
They can cry, I can cry, we all can cry.
If we're not crying, something is wrong.
And so I'm telling you right now, President Biden, not all Americans with you on this one.
And you need to wake up and understand that.
I think that's an insurrectionist call to action, isn't it?
Hundreds have now taken over Congress, and how do we deal with them?
Do we throw the book at them?
Do we charge them with seditious conspiracy?
Alan Dershowitz, he's no conservative.
He's got a suggestion.
Cut nine!
Emeritus professor of Harvard University.
Play cut!
They're the richest university in the world.
No decent employer should ever, ever hire any student who supported these rapes and these beheadings.
They should treat these students exactly as they would treat Ku Klux Klan members who supported the lynching of blacks.
Treat them like the KKK?
Excise them from decent community?
Whether you're a Harvard grad or you went to the law school and you're pro-Hamas or whether you're Rashida Tlaib?
the ones at Harvard, and the neo-Nazis who everybody would say that nobody should employ.
Treat them like the KKK? Excise them from decent community?
Whether you're a Harvard grad or you went to the law school and you're pro-Hamas or whether you're
Rashida Tlaib? I like that idea.
Treat them like members of the Ku Klux Klan, the armed wing of the Democrat Party.
Remember?
Yeah, the Democrat Party.
Jim Crow, KKK, nothing to do with Republicans.
Who was the first Republican president?
Hey Eric, who was the first?
I'm an immigrant, I'm a little rusty on my American history.
Who was the first Republican president?
Some guy with a beard and a top hat elected in 1860 and re-elected in 1864 by the name of Abraham Lincoln.
Well, hang on.
The Great Emancipator?
Who ended slavery was a Republican?
That is what the history books say, at least for now.
Yeah, unless you're Professor Zinn.
The Democrats always were racists.
Let's go to your calls, Chris, California.
That's a big state.
Line three.
Chris!
Are you there?
Three.
Two.
One.
All right, let's give you the breaking news.
I couldn't give you the top of the show because we had too much to discuss.
Biden is in the Middle East.
And, um... Well, let's just listen.
I'm not going to even... You judge for yourselves.
This is the man who is the current Commander-in-Chief.
He's the head of the most powerful nation in the world.
Cut to... This is Biden in Israel.
Almost beyond belief what they did.
This cabinet came together and standing strong, standing united, and I want you to know you're not alone.
You are not alone.
As I emphasized earlier, we will continue to have Israel's back as you work to defend your people.
We'll continue to work with you and partners across the region to prevent more tragedy to innocent civilians.
He's re- what?
Eric, what politician needs to read from cards the phrase, we are on your side, we have your back?
A politician who's in serious cognitive decline.
And he says, we're going to work with our partners in the region.
What happened to those meetings he was going to have with Mahboud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, the King of Jordan, and al-Sisi, the President of Egypt?
What happened to those meetings, Eric, in the last 24 hours?
All three of them completely stood him up.
Hang on, but we're America, Eric!
What?
What happened?
All three of them said, oh, JK, we don't want to meet with you after all.
That's stunning.
Would they have done that to 45?
Oh, not a chance.
Not a chance.
If they dared to, like, not meet with him, he'd be like, alright, fine, we're not gonna give you guys an A8 either.
We may recall our ambassadors.
I don't know.
He would have let them know.
He would have brought the hammer down if they did that to him.
It gets worse.
Just listen.
You need to see this in reality.
I've posted it on all my social media accounts, but just listen.
This is Biden after, you know, sleeping on Air Force One for 11 hours.
This is the first thing he says in Israel.
Cut one.
And based on what I've seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you.
But there's a lot of people out there who are not sure.
We're always looking.
We visualize a value set like the United States does in other democracies.
And we're looking to see what we're going to do.
I'm looking to see what we can do.
Mumble, mumble, mumble.
And it looks like the other team was responsible for the hospital attack.
What?
We're talking about foosball?
The other team?
So Israel's a team and the murderous jihadis are a team?
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What happened to that liner?
So curious.
What kind of technical glitches today?
I love the 21st century.
There was a survey, I think it was Scientific American, about 10 years ago, and they said, what's the most, you know, reliable form of data storage?
Because, you know, every couple of years it changes.
I grew up on floppy disks and we had hard drives, digital tape, USBs, laser disks, you name it.
Do you know what it was?
Eric, have I discussed this on the show before?
This is the first I'm hearing of this, so I'm curious for the answer.
So what do you think is the most reliable form of data storage?
Oh, I can't even- I mean, I imagine- Well, you're so young, you probably think it's like a USB, right?
I was gonna say a cloud, you know, digital clouds, even though we know not to trust them.
Oh, cloud.
Perhaps.
Alex, what do you think is the most reliable form of data storage?
Handwriting things?
Ooh, close!
Tablet.
Geoff?
I was gonna say pen and paper in a safe.
The most reliable form, for longevity's sake, of data storage is StoneTablet.
There's never a format problem with that.
We could read stone tablets from thousands of years ago.
Try that with your old floppy disk from the 1980s.
So excited to hear somebody's stepping up to the plate.
We have to deal with the Middle East, but the primary threat, of course, is China, the nation that wants to have everybody else as a tributary nation or subjected.
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Welcome back, dear friends.
I don't know.
Is it true, team?
Are we actually broadcasting again?
Jeff, Eric, somebody speak to me.
Are we actually broadcasting?
I believe we received the good news that we are back on the air.
I got a big thumbs up from the big boss, John.
First hour, we were only on Rumble.
Apologies to all of our listeners for having to hear yesterday's show.
The Gremlins were in the system, but we are going to put the whole show, all three hours, on the podcast today, as opposed to just the final hours.
We usually do the long form, so you won't miss a thing.
God willing, we will be connecting with IDF spokesman Colonel Conor Ricas in the next segment to tell us what has truly happened there in the Middle East.
But it's that time.
We've got to talk to our West Coast warrior princess AM870, AM590, the answer, Jennifer Horn.
We have a little surprise for our listeners and viewers, do we not?
I love when we cook up something a little fun, a little different every single day, right?
Yes.
We got a little something spicy today.
What's the plan?
Well, here's the deal.
So I filled in for you on Friday, and thank you for letting me do that.
I had fun with all of you.
And you called in, and I interviewed you on your own show.
And I said, you know, that was kind of fun.
And you called me today, and you said, hey, maybe we should do that again.
So I said, why not today?
Because your expertise is in addressing threats to this country, the way that you and I even connected.
is when you wrote your book, Defeating Jihad, and you came out and you did some local events for us,
even before you were on Salem Radio nationally. And, you know, there's a lot of fear out there
today, Seb. You've got last Friday, which was a global day of jihad. Now we've got another day of
rage declared by Hezbollah. We've got people storming the Capitol. And so I thought maybe
it would be helpful to talk about the threat level as you see it right now, both overseas
and in this country, because this is something that is your specialty.
So as you've been talking to your sources and as you've been watching this and you understand extreme Islamic terror, what do you think is the threat to us here at home?
Obviously, the FBI says there's a credible threat or no credible threats, but they say that there is something that we should be diligent about because the chatter is on the rise.
What does that really mean for us?
I actually did a whole monologue on this that I'll try and reprise later in this hour because of the loss of the broadcasting.
And it's based upon a letter I wrote to my wife and my children this morning about what it means.
And please listen in half an hour, I'll read the whole letter again.
But it means, the philosophy is very simple, Jen.
We have to take responsibility for our safety.
And this will vary in, you know, state jurisdictions, municipalities.
We have members of our family in California, so it's very different from in Virginia or even in DC.
But it's up to you.
And the key message, Jennifer, is the terrorists want us to be afraid.
We mustn't let them succeed in that.
But we must be wise and we must be prepared.
And that means If you're in a vicinity where you can do it, carry a gun.
If you need a license to carry the gun, do so.
Most important of all, get training so you can use it properly.
And even those areas where you can't, there are other things you can do to protect yourself.
And also, I recommended, you know, forms of defense that aren't guns, I mentioned ballistic panels you can put in your
backpack that are actually bulletproof.
Kevlar has become so light and thin today. There you go. Maverick Tactical is one of
the best guys out there. And then, just be aware of your surroundings. I gave a very
simple example. When you go into a restaurant or into even a store in the mall, it's a very
If something bad happens, and it doesn't have to be a jihad, it can be just, you know, a shooter, an active shooter situation.
Where do people run to?
They run to the exit of the shop, the exit of the restaurant, which is probably where the killer is.
They're actually running into the kill box.
Every store, every restaurant has a back exit.
It's where the kitchen is.
It's where the stockroom is.
Understand every place you go has more than one entrance or exit.
Be aware of your surroundings.
Don't be paranoid.
Don't stay at home hiding.
But just please be aware and understand you are responsible for your safety.
Absolutely.
And you're the one who taught me that.
And now when I walk into a shopping mall or to a restaurant, and it doesn't matter, we have a huge crime threat in Los Angeles where I live.
You have now the threat on the rise of these people who want to bring jihad to Western world.
You just have to be aware of your surroundings, know how to get out of where you are because it can save your life.
So I think that's really important to remember, especially And just kind of jumping into the next topic, we have an open border right now.
It is unclear whether or not this Biden administration—actually, we know they don't have any idea who's in this country.
We can only guess at how many of them have ties to terror.
And you never know who's living down the street from you.
No, I mean look, look at the last two and a half years.
Look at the last three months.
150 people on the terror watch list.
The math of 9-11 should make everybody wake up.
19 jihadis killed 3,000 people and in the last three months almost 10 times that number have been intercepted.
That we know of!
How many have not been intercepted?
That should be the wake-up call.
What would you do as an advisor to President Trump?
Your fingerprints are on the fact that the Trump administration tore up the Iran nuclear agreement.
You had President Trump's ear.
If you had President Biden's ear, or whoever is pulling the strings, What should they be doing right now?
Because I feel like there's a lack of understanding about the ideology of terrorists that they want to kill at all costs.
They'll kill their own people.
They'll kill themselves.
They'll kill you or me.
They don't have any empathy.
There's no rule of war that's in their mind.
And it really feels to me that Obama before him and Biden now, they don't have any shred of understanding or they're intentionally ignoring that.
It's a very difficult question to answer, because if you don't believe that evil exists, if you think you can negotiate with people who want you dead, whether you're a Jew, a Christian, or an atheist, it's very difficult to pull that person out of that worldview, because their worldview is wrong.
And to actually admit your worldview is wrong is a very painful thing to do.
It's like when the alcoholic admits that they're an alcoholic.
That's the toughest thing for them to do.
What should we be doing?
Let me answer by what Israel is good at doing.
They need to go into Gaza, they need to rescue the hostages, but if you look at who the real perpetrators are, it's of course Iran.
I would like to see Mossad I would have liked to have seen it happen in the last 10 days.
Send their teams that are very effective around the world and neutralize key members of the Iranian regime, members of the Islamic Republican Guard, people who are, you know, like Soleimani, orchestrating these attacks.
If you kill enough individuals of high worth to that terrorist regime, you change their
calculus.
You de-incentivize them at the top.
Why?
Because you can always find cannon fodder.
You can always find the suicide bomber, the terrorist with the AK, but it's the people
who plan it that need to be disincentivized as rapidly as possible.
We as a nation have to stand by Israel's plan to do that instead of, as Biden did, say,
oh, and Bibi better, you know, act in ways that comport with the Geneva Conventions.
We shouldn't be wagging our finger at the people who've suffered an attack equivalent to 3911s.
That's where we should begin.
I don't think that we're under any grand illusions in this country that our military is ready to do this.
This isn't saying anything about the military rank and file.
We have the strongest military in the world, and God love the people who represent this country.
But the leadership of the military I don't think has the backbone for this.
But something we've been talking about on The Morning Answer is going in and neutralizing the threat of Iran.
They are funding all of this terror.
Go in and take out their nuclear sites.
Go in and do some surgical, tactical, Make some problems for them, right?
Get back into sanctioning them, making sure that they're not earning money from this oil from these NGOs and from the UN.
They're using our taxpayer dollars now to kill people.
Obviously, this administration is not going to do that.
But what do you think about our role in Iran?
Should we go in there and make them a target to cut the head off of the proverbial snake?
Well, I'll tell you what we shouldn't be doing.
We played the cut and I'm sure you played it on your show as well.
When Antony Blinken talks today about how, you know, aid, we're going to be sending aid with our allies to Gaza and if Hamas steals it, he says, We will condemn them.
I mean that the scent that's just that plays they say oh really what you're going to send us a stiffly worded letter you will condemn us as we take your aid and turn it into rockets turn it into suicide vets so here's easy shorthand on this has been far too much fun Stay on the line.
We're going to try and connect with Israel.
If that doesn't work, I'd love to continue because your questions are so superb.
But here's the summary of the last 11 minutes with Jennifer Horne.
If you want to do what's right, To the opposite of what the Biden administration has been doing for the last two and a half years and for the last 11 days.
If you do that, you're probably heading in the right direction.
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I am loving being on the other side of the show, like I was on the road from Washington State last week, being interviewed by my guest host, the superlative, the irrepressible Jennifer Horne.
We are waiting to connect to Colonel Conor Rikers of the IDF.
As soon as we do that, we'll get him on the phone.
But she still has questions for me.
In the meantime, if you want to make a difference, if you want to help, we have partnered with
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Jennifer, don't go anywhere.
I know you've got a long list of questions.
We'll get to you after our interview with a man who I don't think has slept for the last 11 days.
A superlative spokesman for the state of Israel from the IDF, Lieutenant Colonel John Conricus.
Welcome to America First.
Thank you, sir.
Pleasure to be here.
So, thank you.
I know it's late in Israel right now.
Would you please give us an update on what is the morale of the fighting forces?
How is the IDF doing?
And please talk to us about how the people of Israel are doing after the worst attack on your nation since the Shoah, since the Holocaust.
Yes, these are challenging times in Israel.
We are reeling.
We are still burying our dead.
The funerals continue.
Now there's less, thankfully, but we are still burying our dead, and there are still bodies being collected from the Gaza envelope area, being identified and brought to proper burial by their loved ones.
So that is still happening.
The level of anger, fear, rage and many other feelings.
What Hamas was able to do, how they were able to so brutally butcher Israeli civilians, to murder, to abduct, to rape, to mutilate.
All of the most horrible things that can be imagined were done by Hamas.
And the sentiment in Israel, sentiment reflects the atrocities.
I'm seeing a beautiful coming together.
In Israel and a lot of the political nonsense that has clouded the judgment and the general discourse in Israel for many, many months.
It appears to have blown away and there is now clarity resolve on what needs to be done.
Everybody, I think, not everybody, but the overwhelming majority in Israel understand that we have to fundamentally change the situation in the south and we have to rid Israel of this cancer that has grown for far too long inside Hamas, inside Gaza, Hamas.
In terms of the situation on the ground, our troops are deployed outside of the Gaza Strip.
We are talking about ground units from various forces, artillery, infantry, armor, intelligence, combat engineers and the like.
More than 300,000 of them, and they are getting ready for the next stage of operations.
Until that happens, we continue to strike Hamas and their military targets from above, using our air force.
We are hunting Hamas commanders, and we have said very clearly, anybody from Yihya Sinwal, the so-called butcher from Khan Yunus, the leader of Hamas, all the way down to the last lieutenant in Hamas, anybody who provided finance, logistics, other types of support, medical support.
Anybody who is part of that murderous organization that orchestrated the most severe terror attack
against Israel, he is a dead man walking.
And we're in a systemic approach of taking out Hamas seniors.
Yesterday, we took out a senior commander from the central Gaza area, and we continue
to hunt others.
They are hiding underground in their tunnels, the same tunnels that they are not allowing
Gaza and civilians to use, but using for themselves.
So it makes it a little bit more difficult.
But once in a while, they emerge, and we target them.
We are also prepared along our northern border, where we see continuous daily aggression by
another Iranian proxy, Hezbollah.
who are threatening, firing anti-tank missiles, trying to infiltrate into the country, trying
to target our soldiers and have already killed one civilian.
And for here, for that area, you know, the dilemma is really for the Lebanese state.
We should ask them if they really want to jeopardize their security and own future for
the sake of terrorists in Gaza.
So it's a complex situation.
Many fronts.
We are strong, determined, and we know that we have a task at hand which needs to be implemented fully.
Well, what I've been saying for the last 11 days is that as somebody who's been to Israel, who believes the greatest nation on earth made by man is America, the greatest nation made by God was Israel, I've been praying that the IDF destroys Hamas completely and then salts the earth over the Hamas graves of the murderers and the terrorists.
It sounds like that is your intent.
Will you talk to us about the The unbelievable exploitation of what seems to be the Islamic-Palestinian jihad missile attack on Israel that ended up with one of the rockets landing on a hospital.
It seems as if people still today, 18 hours later, are still lying about what happened.
It's a classic example of a fake and an event that was exploited, an accident, rockets misfiring,
landing in the parking area of a hospital, likely killing many people who were there.
And that then was exploited by Hamas and willingly parroted by much of the international media.
And they took much of the mainstream international media, and I have been on interviews ever
since about it, they took Hamas reports as if they were God's truth, reported it, and
the headlines were Israel strikes hospital.
And as Churchill said, that a lie can travel around the world twice before truth gets its
It took us a few hours, but we examined it.
We evaluated all the evidence that we had, and eventually we came out with a clear statement saying that it wasn't us, and it was the Islamic Jihad.
I find it so reckless to see that so many allegedly established and respected journalists were willing to take Hamas information and broadcast it as if that was the truth and the reality on the ground.
And I'm worried by it, because we see the repercussions in the area.
We see how this spiked, first of all, diplomatic issues also related to the U.S.
president, a meeting which was supposed to be a positive Let's say a humanitarian-focused meeting was cancelled by the Jordanians and by the Palestinians because of this fake event.
And I'm sure that they feel pretty stupid now, having cancelled the meeting with the U.S.
President because of fake news.
So it's dangerous and it's reckless.
We're talking to the spokesman for the Israeli Defense Forces, Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Konraikas.
You can follow him on Twitter at jkonraikas, also the IDF at IDF.
I'd like to keep you on for two more minutes.
My colleague out of Los Angeles would like to ask you a question as well.
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Thank you, Colonel, for staying on the line.
We're going to continue in the break on our video channel on Rumble.
My colleague, Jennifer Horne, who keeps Western America, Southern California sane, is on the line from Los Angeles.
Jennifer, what question do you have for the Colonel?
Lieutenant Colonel, first of all, we are all praying for you and of course stand 100% with you and with the Israelis, the IDF for sure.
How organized is Hamas as an opponent?
Obviously, we know they were organized on October 7th when they entered Israel, but how does that create a – does their organization create a challenge when you are working on your strategy for a ground attack, even for an air attack?
Talk to us about their organization.
Thank you for your words of support.
That's important for us in Israel.
We need to know that good people around the world help us and support us and stand by us, because this is a fight between the people of light and the people of darkness, and those who are for light should say it loud and clear.
Hamas is a serious semi-military organization.
They're both a terrorist organization, but they also have many characteristics that are similar of a proper military.
They have command and control, they have logistics, they have communications, they have fires, infantry, explosives, anti-tank units, and it's all organized just like a military.
What really, I think, differentiates Hamas from many other terrorist organizations active around the world is that they own and govern territory, the Gaza Strip, where about 2.5 million Palestinians live.
And up until now, almost 20 years of Hamas governance, they have been using almost every piece of civilian infrastructure for military purposes.
And the challenge that we are going to face is that Everything that may look civilian may be or is military, and a key component is the tunnel network.
Hamas, over the years, has built an elaborate system of tunnels going under the Gaza Strip, Gaza City, Khan Younes, Rafah, and all other centers of population.
That is really the backbone of their military capabilities.
That's where they hide when we are striking, and that's where they transfer fighters from one area to another. That is how they fire
rockets from within houses and buildings and schools and hospitals because they're able to transport
them underground to their launching pits.
And it's basically a city underneath a city. That will be a challenge for us as we continue
and enhance our operations.
At the end, however, we will dismantle Hamas.
We will dismantle their military capabilities, their governing capabilities, and at the end of this war, the security situation in Israel, but also for Gazans.
And I want to emphasize this, but first and foremost in Israel will be better, not just for a few years, but for generations.
We're talking to Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Conricus, spokesman for the Israeli Defense Forces.
I have one more question for you, sir.
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Colonel, I have one last question for you.
First things first, our prayers are with you.
All decent people who understand this is a war, as you said, between lightness and the forces of darkness, between truth and evil, are praying for you, for the Israelis, for all who are suffering, especially the families of the hostages and the hostages.
One last question I have for you, sir.
What message do you have for Americans, for Christians, for Jews, for atheists?
What is the most important thing they need to understand about what you, your colleagues, and your families are doing today in Israel?
I think the most important thing to understand is that this war was forced upon us By some of the most brutal and vile subhuman beings on earth, the atrocities that were done against Israeli civilians, specifically women, rape, continued rape, mutilation, and the fact that they took Israeli civilians hostage and are holding them in Gaza.
It's outrageous, and now is the time for anybody who cares and wants to stand up for what is good and right against the powers of darkness.
If you are on the good side, and if you want to be on the good side of history, then stand with Israel.
And make your voice heard.
If you have an ability to inform your elected officials of your feelings and what you feel they should do in order to be on the right side, then please do so.
And if you see pro-Palestinian or pro-Hamas demonstrators in your city, Don't let them dominate the public sphere, and don't let them control the narrative outside.
I know that most people support Israel, but I also know that our opponents and those who hate us are very vocal and violent and out on the streets.
That shouldn't be allowed either.
So if you see that, stand up against it.
And we in Israel trust and appreciate every bit of moral, spiritual and otherwise worldly support that we get.
Thank you, Colonel, for taking the time.
I know you're busy, you're a warrior, you wear the uniform of the IDF.
Could we trouble you at least once a week to get an IDF update from the ground?
With pleasure.
God bless you.
God bless Israel.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
I've had the president on the show six times, I think.
But that interview there, that was one of the most important things we've ever done, I think.
Jennifer, your debrief on listening to somebody who's fighting for the survival of his nation.
He is absolutely incredible.
And I think you're right.
I think, look, I love your interviews with President Trump and I love to hear them.
But when you talk about something that is absolutely so important about getting the truth out there, because there's so much misinformation in the media, this was absolutely probably the most important thing I've listened to.
And it was a pleasure to speak with him and listen to you ask him those questions as well.
The Israeli people are Dealing with the fight.
And you know, Seb, that they are going to lose support from the mainstream media, from politicians.
They already are, as this goes on.
And it's important to keep the truth out there, so we keep supporting them.
Yeah.
God bless you.
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Well, and after this event, that is an unavoidable discussion.
It's one that, a discussion that Israel has to be even more welcoming to after this event today.
Yes, and again, one of the... And that isn't to say that Israel is to blame for this at all, but it is a matter of perception that they have to be very much concerned about.
Hang on, what did Lawrence O'Donnell just say?
That Israel didn't attack the hospital, the jihadis did, but, but Israel?
Has to be careful because somebody lied about it?
Oh, oh really?
That's how it works.
So Israel's responsible.
Hey, hey, Jeff, is that, is that Stop the Hammering Looney?
Is that the same guy?
That is him.
How does he still have... Was that his show or was he a guest on somebody else's?
Well, that's his show.
He's had that show since at least 2010.
Why does he have a show?
Because he's a lunatic.
And who watches MSNBC?
Wow.
Stunning.
Truly, truly stunning.
Somebody else who's a lunatic.
What's the name of that local Iowa radio host piece?
Steve Dees.
Dees, Dees.
We'll get to Mario and your cause in a second, but we got to play this from the... How did you find this?
Was this hard to find?
Did they bury this video of Dees on his radio show?
No, it was his pinned tweet yesterday.
Hang on, he's proud of this?
Yeah, exactly.
The cut you showed me, he's proud of this?
Yes.
So him going down on the DeSantis ship and almost having a breakdown on air, he actually pinned that tweet?
Yeah, so he actually thinks it's his best work.
That's what you would do as like a pinned tweet.
Okay, no comment.
Just play it.
This is Iowa radio host Steve Dees.
Cut 11.
If this is not our guy for such a time as this, this is an indictment of us.
We're just this blind and this lost as a culture.
I mean, this is just beyond obvious at this point.
This is the candidate we've always said we've wanted.
This guy is the culmination of all the shows I grew up listening to, all the books I grew up reading, and now the shows that I do and the books that I write.
He is.
He stands there in the gap, doesn't shriek or shirk.
He neither diminishes nor lashes out.
He is the alpha in the conversation.
He dominates.
No, I'm not taking it.
That's not true.
Gonna call BS.
But he do it professionally.
I've just never seen anything like this.
Not in this century, at least.
You know, I was a little kid, man, when Reagan was rising to prominence, but in this century, I've never seen anybody with this resume and this record who then, at this kind of a moment, as a candidate, he's not even the president yet, as a candidate, has risen to this level of occasion.
Never seen anything like it.
Hello, darkness, my old friend.
I've come to talk with you again.
Hat tip.
Hat tip to Eric for suggesting that song.
Oh my gosh.
Jeff, what is he talking about?
He's never seen anybody like DeSantis step up and he's like Reagan.
Sorry?
What has DeSantis done?
He might have been talking about RFK Jr., remember?
Because he was calling him Mr. President last week.
Oh yeah, he had that tweet of him with RFK in studio saying, next president question mark.
I'm sorry.
I have to make fun of that because of course it's like demented.
It's like the psycho ex-girlfriend who just can't get over you.
But how does a man do that publicly?
What's going on there?
Do you understand that Jeff?
It's a lot of the DeSantis supporters now at the end.
They've been lashing out now for the last couple of months.
They've gotten to the final point where they're mad at everybody else because they can't see what they see.
Because we don't see in DeSantis what they see.
And they're lashing out.
Eric, do you get it?
What's Dease doing?
I think deep down inside, except maybe for the most oblivious ones, deep down inside they know he's done and they just refuse to admit it.
Their egos will not allow them to admit that they bet the wrong horse.
Well then shut up!
But don't do that.
Don't break down like a little girl in public and then pin it as a tweet.
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Mr. Gorka, you know when I heard that Bayeudin was going to visit Israel...
Hang on, can you like, it's very hard to hear you.
Can you put the phone slightly further away from your mouth?
Yeah.
That's better.
When I heard that Biden was visiting Israel during this war period, it struck me that when he wanted Afghanistan to end on a certain date, he immediately, like any thug, he realized the moment was to go there now And you know, when I knew that it was a thuggish move, when he actually said it during his speech today, instead of letting someone else say it, he said, I'm the first president to visit Israel during wartime.
And I said, you piece of slime, you.
That's why you did it.
You never mentioned Iran.
You never mentioned—you stayed out of that lane totally—about Hamas—totally out of that lane, which makes you the thug that I know you are.
And President Trump has to get back in office and put all these thugs in jail, to include some of those judges that have to be in on this, because there's no way that none of them are fair-minded.
Of course, of course.
Mario, you know what you just said is so fascinating, because I had coffee with somebody today who's known Biden for decades, because he worked on the other side of the aisle in the Senate, and he said he used exactly the same word, Mario.
He said he's a thug.
He actually called him a Teamster Thug.
And he always has been.
This idea of Uncle Joe.
He's always been a thug.
You nailed it.
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Hamas are the new Nazis.
Hamas is ISIS, in some instances worse than ISIS.
And just as the world united to defeat the Nazis, just as the world united to defeat ISIS, the world has to stand united behind Israel to defeat Hamas.
Is there a more succinct summation of the reality?
They are Nazis.
They're Islamist Nazis.
It's why I wrote my book, Defeating Jihad, to understand the connection between communism, fascism and jihadism.
They're all totalitarianism.
It's still going, the protest is still going.
Unbelievably, the Sergeant of Arms, I've just texted this, has said that the people taking over Congress today, that their protest is guaranteed by the First Amendment.
I wonder if that applied to January the 6th?
Domestic politics.
Let's talk for a second about what Biden has wrought here in the last two and a half years.
Jeff, you say there's an interesting cut that's not about the Middle East.
Who is this person, Bob Nardelli?
Explain Cut Six to us.
He's the former CEO of Home Depot and he's talking about how the Biden inflation and their policies are killing medium-sized businesses.
With some pretty shocking figures, right?
Correct.
All right, let's listen to a man who knows what capitalism really looks like and how Biden is killing businesses across America.
This is Bob Nardelli, a former Home Depot CEO.
Cut six!
You know, this administration is inflating inflation.
And oil is the biggest cause of that.
41% increase in energy.
It's the biggest inflation factor we have to deal with.
Gasoline prices are down in Georgia because our governor took charge and reduced the state tax.
What Maria's referring to is what I see out there is this administration's creating inflation, the feds are trying to hammer it down, and by doing that they're killing, they're killing the middle market companies.
If you look at bankruptcies, etc.
I've got a company we were paying two million dollars in interest, we're now fourteen.
A hundred percent of our free cash flow...
14 million is killing our cash flow just to pay the man.
And so we've got two pieces of the administration fighting each other.
And on oil, just look at Exxon Mobil buying Pioneer.
The fracking companies aren't going to produce more.
I mean, this guy surrendered energy independence.
Russia's benefiting from all of this.
How you can deny that reality?
If we're not energy independent like we were under President Trump, if we had increases
in fuel costs, it's back up to beyond $6 in California.
Well, guess what?
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It's not the members of Congress.
It's the average American.
If you do anything that involves fuel, from shipping to providing services with a vehicle, That hurts you.
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We were struck so hard by the fact that we were not getting enough sleep.
We were struck Saturday by an attack whose savagery I can say we have not seen since the Holocaust.
I mean, we had hundreds massacred, families wiped out in their beds and their homes, women brutally raped and murdered, over a hundred kidnapped, including children.
They're even worse than ISIS!
They're even worse than ISIS.
That was Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a week ago.
The numbers since then have, of course, escalated.
Beyond 1,300 Israelis killed, 29 Americans.
Countless lost hostages who haven't yet to be located.
What can we expect in the days and weeks to come?
A rare treat, a luxury for us.
We talk national security and foreign policy every Friday with our friend, Colonel Dr. Jim Carafano of the Heritage Foundation.
But now we get in for the whole hour.
Jim, welcome in studio.
You know, people compare to ISIS, but this is worse, right?
And as somebody who's spent a lot of time teaching and studying counterterrorism, I mean, you're the expert in this, but ISIS never had a state sponsor.
True.
Hamas is not just sponsored, it's directed by Iran.
That makes it way more dangerous.
And so the frustrating thing for me, as much as we talk about, well, we're going to destroy Hamas and we need a two-state solution or whatever, they're not talking about the problem.
Until the day that Iran is dealt with, they will always find somebody to go and kill Israelis for them.
Well, let me jump in right there, and we're not limited in any scope.
We have the hour with you, so we can take this discussion anywhere it leads.
But to that, let's jump straight in on that.
Is a two-state solution, after what we witnessed Saturday before last, possible. Will Israel ever countenance a two-state solution
given the fact that they say this is the biggest loss of Jewish life since the
Holocaust?
Well I mean look, this is a true statement last week, it was a true statement
A month ago, it was a true statement.
A year ago.
If you could magically snap your fingers and create a Palestinian state, what would it look like?
It would be a state sponsor of terrorism.
It would be committed to the destruction of Israel.
It would be a tool of Iran.
It would be completely and thoroughly corrupt and oppressive of its own people.
Yeah.
Okay, so how is that a solution for anything?
And the fact that they haven't had an election there since, what is it, 2015?
And the fact that the latest polling says more than 70% of the population of those territories doesn't believe that Israel should exist.
So by dint of just those figures, we're not talking about somebody who is acting in good faith, even the population.
You have to remember, this is a system which is designed to create in its own people a
character of oppression.
You're educated in the schools.
If you went out and said, I'm going to do business with an Israeli, people would come
and knock at your door and say, don't do that.
And if you did it the next day, they would come to you and they'd beat the hell out of
you.
And if you still did it the next day, they would come to you and they would take you
out and nobody would ever see you again.
So these are people that are not allowed to have a future.
They're deprived of a future.
And so as long as there is money and resources and funds and flowing into keeping the fires
burning because this is how Iran, this is the tool which Iran threatens the existence
of Israel.
This doesn't stop.
And so, really, we can talk about the war, we can talk about, and we probably should, in Hamas and the second French Hezbollah and everything else, but when people say, well, when does the killing stop?
You know, when does the... I'm sure the Israelis would like to know that.
Yeah, and the answer is easy.
It's when Iran stops.
Well, OK, we'll get to how that can be affected, if at all, and perhaps compare it to what we did with Iran and the Trump administration.
But let's look at the last almost two weeks. The ground invasion has been delayed. The
president is going to Israel today to talk to Bibi Netanyahu. You can't have a ground
invasion when Air Force One is in the air. There are problems. What is this
administration playing at?
What can we define what the sons of JCPOA are trying to do to Israel?
And the fact that in his second speech he wagged his finger at BB and Biden and said, you better abide by the Geneva Conventions.
Because you're a military expert, it is worth backing up and saying, well, how do we get to here?
Let's do that.
Because if you think back to 2008, which I believe was Operation Cast Lead, it was the last time there was a major offensive out of Gaza by Hamas.
And the Israeli solution was to go in on the ground, 22-day offensive, incredibly bloody, incredibly violent, a lot of casualties on both sides.
And come out, the Israelis said, I don't want to do that again.
Right?
Occupying Gaza is obviously not...
Because it's the worst kind of warfare.
Right.
And so what we're going to do is, we're just not going to go into Gaza anymore.
But the way Hamas continued the war is that they started firing rockets, right?
And so the Israeli response is...
Can we stop there for a second?
We'll continue to cast lead, but you're a former artillery officer.
Can you say a little bit about these rockets?
These aren't cruise missiles with GPS guidance that go after military targets.
Can you say a little bit about the nature of these rockets?
Because one of the things is, as you know, is they manufacture these rockets, and many of them are made out of very simple materials.
And so, for example, when they say, well, we need pipes for water projects.
All of a sudden, there's these hundreds of miles of pipe, and they're just using the
pipes to make rockets, right?
These are dumb rockets.
Right.
And they're just designed for terror, right?
Because this is the thing, is the one thing the Israelis will always do, the one vital
interest that is always sanctioned is they must protect the Israeli people, and they
must protect their territory from invasion.
So if you find a way to kill Israelis, the Israelis are going to kill you back.
That's just the reality.
And this is what Hamas has to be—that's the only reason why they're useful to the
Iranians.
They have to be able to kill Israelis and to get Israelis to kill them, to keep the
fires burning.
So when Israelis said, well, we just want to invade.
And then what they did is they started to build missile defenses, Iron Dome and these other defenses.
And so what that allowed them to do is really control escalation.
So before, if Hamas wanted to start, they'd just fire a bunch of rockets and the Israelis would kill them back.
And then what the Israelis did is because they built the capacity to protect their own people from these incoming rockets, the Israelis could decide when and where it happened.
What action did it take?
Well, after Cast Lead, that didn't go well, or it was bloody.
So what lessons have been learned, or incorrectly drawn by the IDF?
Well, I mean, so they created essentially an iron dome to protect the Israeli people,
and then of course the last time there was, I think it was like 2014 when the Israeli
soldier was kidnapped and they had to go in on the ground, but it was very, you know,
nothing like Cast Lead.
It was very targeted, small, right?
So now, here's the frustration for Hamas.
How am I any good to the Israelis if all I can do is fire missiles that get shot down?
Yes.
And so they do something which is, honestly, I mean, this is what you do in warfare, right?
You do the thing that the enemy is not prepared to do with.
They go old school.
They basically go back in on the ground in, you know, kind of the biggest mass murder operation Let's take the Munich Olympics on ultimate steroids.
They basically go in on the ground, they put boots on the ground, and they just go in and kill Israelis.
And now they found a way to kill Israelis in large number, and now they force Israel to respond, right?
So now Israel, you violated the one thing that they absolutely cannot allow to happen, right?
Put territory at risk and put their own people at risk.
The military solution is to go in and take out Hamas, which is What their instincts are to do, and probably in a multi-week campaign.
So in comes Joe Biden, the great friend of Israel.
Right?
We all know we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Joe Biden.
Because if Joe Biden hadn't funneled all his cash and demonstrated all this week to the Iranians, the Iranians would have never gotten to the point where they would have been so emboldened to push Hamas to do this major operation.
So here is Biden, and the great fear is a two-front war.
So they get Hezbollah attacking from the north while they're fighting from the south.
Biden, on the one hand, has to be all in for Israel.
He doesn't really have an option, even though half his party is probably anti-Semitic and would be happy to throw Israel into the sea.
Just like he had to defend Ukraine—there's so many parallels with Ukraine—just like he had to defend Ukraine, he's got to help defend Israel.
So, on the one hand, we're preparing to send probably a couple thousand troops in to help lay the logistics support package for everything the Israelis need to out-invade Hamas.
We move two carriers in.
Yeah, let's hold that because I want to ask you specifically what is the role, what should be the role of U.S.
forces and what do you expect Biden to do?
So let's hold that thought here.
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Okay, let's come in with Jake Sullivan.
And what we said is we want to depressurize, de-escalate, and ultimately integrate the Middle East region.
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Alright, so, pretty impressive from Jake Sullivan that the region is stable and we're integrating it.
What should be done in terms of America's support and, which is
a different answer, what do you think this administration will do?
So there's a bit of both there, right?
So on the one hand, the administration doesn't have a choice.
Much like it really had to support Ukraine, because the threat against Ukraine really was not about Ukraine.
It was really a threat to NATO.
And to let Russia roll out of Ukraine would have put NATO in a tremendously weakened position.
And it could have led to a much bigger and more destructive conflict.
What's going on here, a humiliating Israeli defeat, is, again, a threat to our interests as well.
So, on the one hand, the President can't allow that to happen.
It is happening really because of his policy errors.
But what do you mean when you say he can't let it happen?
He did it to us in Afghanistan, Jim.
Anything is feasible, isn't it?
No, because the difference is, Afghanistan was not a vital interest to the U.S.
You could pull out of there, have a disastrous day, and America could still roll on.
Having a war at NATO's front, that's a bigger deal.
Having the most important and critical ally in the Middle East, which has nuclear weapons, suffer a catastrophic event.
That is just not possible.
But Jim, I agree with you.
Do you think this administration does?
An administration which, you know, 6 billion here, 16 billion there for Iran.
Do you think they share your geopolitical sense?
Because they have to.
Are you being optimistic?
No, no, and here's the evidence.
Look, first of all, There's reports of 2,000 troops going in.
That's not to do fighting or anything else.
That's just to lay down the logistical network to support an Israeli offensive in Gaza.
The other thing is, is you move two carriers into the Y-2.
One sends a pretty powerful message.
Two allows you to start to conduct sustained operations.
It means you can keep aircraft over a target, right?
Because you're rotating.
Right.
And so that is, my assessment is, primarily there to deter an offensive in the north, sending the message that Every logistic pipeline taking stuff into Hamas through Syria and everything will just be obliterated and it'll never see light.
Can I just jump in there for a second?
Do they have the fidelity, I mean to break those pipelines, do they have the fidelity of intelligence given that they missed this attack?
Yeah, it's a different kind of intelligence.
This is targeting intelligence, and I would suspect that they actually can do that, because you've got things on the ground moving, easy to see.
So at the one hand, they've laid all the foundation to actually support the self-defense of Israel.
On the other hand, we have the Biden guys literally trying to restrain Israel.
I mean, flying there this week!
Right, and telling them, you know, don't, don't, don't punish Hamas, right?
And of course, the thing is, is that's not going to solve the problem.
You know, not defending yourself is just going to actually make them more aggressive.
And here's the biggest thing is, is completely, absolutely denying in any possible way that this whole thing happened because Iran pushed a button.
And it pushed a button because you enabled them with many tens of billions of dollars to be in the place that they could do this.
And you encouraged them by not punishing them, not restraining them in any way.
You caused this.
And now you want the Israelis, in a sense, to hold back because you don't want to have to face the real enemy.
And that's why we are where we are.
Let me broach it with you.
How did they miss this?
Is this over the debate with the Supreme Court, the strikes, 400 IDF fighter pilots, Israeli Air Force pilots went on strike?
How did they miss this coordinated attack across all of Israel?
Well, I think it's pretty fair to say this is a massive intelligence failure.
And typically what always happens in massive intelligence failures is people start to come out of the woodwork and say, well, I had the intelligence, right?
Well, it's reading the signal.
They missed the signal.
Well, and this is the thing, you know, in retrospect, you know, we saw this with 9-11, for example.
Yeah, okay, there was actually, if you knew that you were going to get attacked, you'd say, oh, well, there's the intelligence that proves it.
You know, in the retrospect, there was intelligence that said, okay, yeah, there's not really weapons of mass destruction.
That's different from being able to separate all that at the time and say, okay, I know they're coming.
So I don't see how this isn't a massive intelligence failure.
Is that potentially explaining the delay on the ground offensive?
No, I think the delay on the ground offensive is pretty clear, and it's because they don't want a second front in the north.
How do they prevent that?
The thing is, they're in part trying to do that now, because the Israelis are taking some preemptive military strikes to disorganize that a bit.
But the other thing is, you have to be ready to go in the South.
Because, again, you've spent a lot of time in the military, guys.
You know this.
If you were going to start at second front, when would you do it?
You would start at the day the guys get bogged down in the first front.
And of course, everybody's playing this up by trying to get them to then restrain on
Hamas.
But of course, the problem with that is, look, they're never going to eliminate the ability
of Hamas to come back and fight again.
But what they can do is significantly degrade their capacity to have that happen in the near term.
This is Clausewitz 101.
There's two aspects about you and the enemy.
It's will and capacity.
Even if they have the will to fight, if they don't have the capacity, if you degrade their operational ability, then that's almost as good as undermining their will.
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All right, Jim, I've got to broach this, because this is the thing that would piss, that pisses me off the most.
That we have people who say they're good guys, patriots, conservatives, republicans, what have you, who even from the beginning are saying, yes, what happened in Israel is bad, but... And they do this kind of mindless isolationism, just as we've seen with Ukraine, and they say, not our problem, too many dumb wars, let Israel sort it out.
You've touched upon this already, but would you address this directly, how this makes no logical sense?
Even if you're cynical, even if you've had it with, you know, WMDs, blah, blah, blah, you can't say this.
Right.
Well, you know, and to be fair, and Republicans have always had the street crowd of saying, you know, we are More consistent on national security.
We're the adults in the room on this issue.
Particularly after the Cold War, when we kind of lost the bipartisan consensus about America's role in the world.
And let's be fair, some of that goodwill was squandered during the Iraq and Afghanistan year with a lot of questionable decisions on their part.
Now, we got a lot of stupid leadership from Obama, but we kind of expect that, right?
We kind of expect Republicans to kind of be better.
So it does, I think, give some fuel to the notion, like, just because you're a Republican, you know, doesn't mean you're good on foreign policy and
national security.
Right? And I'd be honest, I think people like John McCain and Lindsey Graham sometimes said
some things that are just, that's just not right. So. But to say this isn't our war.
Well, and that kind of gets to the point, which is, yeah, you're right.
You should be skeptical of things like nation building and regime change and needless wars and all that.
No argument there.
And that kind of goes back to, we should, you know, go back to basics, right?
If you had a winning team and all of a sudden you stop winning, what do you do?
The coach takes everybody back to the clubhouse and they go back out on the field and we start working on the basics of how you play the game.
And the basics of how you play the game is national interest.
It's a real honest debate about what is in the national interest and what's the appropriate use of not just the military, but all your resources to do that.
And this is the reality of why just saying, well, let's always be isolationist.
Let's always be a restrainer.
Let's never leave America's shore.
Let's never use force unless we're going to go out and fight World War III.
Why that doesn't work is because the reality is the United States is a global power
with global interests and global responsibilities.
We saw 30 Americans killed in Israel, for example.
Those are our people that died there.
We have probably a dozen of them held hostage.
They're our Americans.
So there are times in our own interests when we have to go out and protect our interests.
And it is true.
Do you really want to wait until they're at the front door of the Alamo before you start thinking about preventing suffering to the interests and the freedoms of innocent American people?
So, here's the thing about this.
If you're a global power with global interests and global responsibilities, you've got two options, right?
You're a subcorker.
You're a nice guy.
You like your family.
You take them on vacation.
I don't know, Budapest, right?
Lovely city, right?
You run out of money.
You have to vote.
So, short of cash.
So, what do you need to do?
You get on a plane, you fly back to the United States, go to your bank, get more money,
fly back to Budapest.
No, you don't do that.
You go to an ATM, you make a withdrawal.
So, the United States has a global presence, global allies, global places we work.
And global interest.
So, we can be, so we can efficiently do that when we need to.
And so, here's the thing is, is one of the three most important parts of the world,
arguably, they're Western Europe, the Middle East, and the Indo-Pacific.
They connect the world together.
They connect us to the world.
From there, we can pretty much go into, they're the key avenues of everything that moves
and everything else.
Okay, so let's just be honest.
Those are the three most important parts of the world to us.
In each one of those parts of the world, we have an anchor.
What I call the indispensable ally.
It's the one country that you can always count on.
They will never take your bases away.
They will always be there for you.
They are your ATM.
They will allow you to get into that theater and do, if you're not an idiot, they will allow you to do stuff efficiently and smart.
And you don't ever want to lose them or see them go under.
And they are the UK in Europe, Japan in the Indo-Pacific, And Israel in the Middle East.
Israel went from an act, really an act of altruism on the part of the United States of recognizing Israel, to actually for a couple of decades it's like, ooh, maybe we didn't, this is actually a relationship that's more trouble than it's worth, to evolving really in the 1960s when the Soviets were trying to majorly move into the region, to becoming really The most important country because the Israelis will do something.
The Israelis will always defend themselves.
The Israelis will always be faithful to the United States and they bring some of the best stuff in the region to the table.
So they are the indispensable ally and if we want to see the world burn, let Israel go under.
The Indispensable Ally.
We may have a title for this segment, but this is why we rely upon Jim so much.
Just the clarity of that strategic assessment.
Three regions that matter to America, and each one has an indispensable ally.
The UK for Europe, Japan for Asia, and Israel for the Middle East.
Absolutely spot on.
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Okay, you literally wrote the book, Jim, that I used as a textbook when I was teaching at
National Defense University here in Fort McNair, the pinnacle of the, what is called the
JPME, the Joint Professional Military Education System for our forces.
You wrote the book on, you know, the homeland security, on the domestic threat.
Can you tie the strands together?
We've been looking to the Middle East.
Let's connect this to the last two and a half years and what's happened in America and the
unprecedented number of illegal aliens let into the country, pre-screened through this
shell game of the DHS app, and then the latest reports of 150 people on the terror watch
list in just three months.
Can you help explain why, you know, Hamas or jihadism isn't just something that's over there?
Well, I can only assume that the Biden administration, just like they thought that the Iranians could be their friends and that they could buy off Hamas, just believe that radical Islamist terrorism is something that only happens to Republicans, right?
Because the reality is, is in the two plus years that Biden's been president, he has literally dismantled or distracted every tool that was put
in place post 9-11 to prevent another 9-11.
And when you think that here we are, having witnessed the incredible intelligence fair
at the Israeli space, and theoretically guys are kind of on top of this all the time, who
just had a 9-11 proportionally, per capita, way bigger than ours, actually, that we would
be this undefended for this.
And it's so broad, it would take the entire show to discuss it.
Taking air marshals.
Off of airplanes to help bring in illegal aliens, turning the entire CBP into basically a large human trafficking network, having several million illegal aliens here that wouldn't even know who they are.
And this is after.
This is after.
This is after what just happened in Israel and after Hamas just called for a day of rage and world war terrorism against the United States.
We just cut a deal with Venezuela.
Will you explain that?
that because people probably just missed what we cut with Venezuela.
So Venezuela has been this regime, it's you know, and it's completely beyond the pale.
We've been sanctioning for years.
Biden just kind of deal with them, says, OK, you can sell your oil.
We're not going to sanction your oil anymore.
You know, and all you have to do is let election observers into moderate, into the election,
observe the next elections and basically get a good get agile free court.
OK, what is Venezuela been doing for the last two years?
They have become the global hub for anybody that wants to illegally emigrate to the United
So literally, if you're coming from Africa or China, all you do is you get a flight to Venezuela.
They will take you to the airport.
They'll put you right in with the cartels.
Can I just be clear what Jim's saying here?
The state of Venezuela is facilitating illegal traffic of human beings into America from states other than Venezuela as well.
Right, exactly.
No, from all over the world.
All over the world, right.
And mostly from Africa and China.
So yeah, and by the way, Africa has the largest growing radical Islamist threat in the world today.
So we are literally—they are literally creating an import service for illegal aliens to the
United States.
And the Biden administration, after, you know, having been just lambasted for 10 million
illegal aliens here on an uncontrolled border and all the risks intended with that, after
the disaster that Israel just faced, after hearing calls for a global jihad against the
United States, literally cuts a deal to reward the Venezuelan regime for doing this.
And as a national security professional who wore the cloth of the republic, when you see
those shocking images from the streets of New York, literally less than 48 hours after
the horrific attacks—I mean, the quote-unquote protest march looked like the West Bank, looked
like Gaza.
They had massive banners that read, Globalize the Intifada, when you see that One, I would say it is unquestionably true that America is less prepared today to prevent a 9-11 than it was on 9-11.
The other thing is, it is not about the Muslim world.
Things are all connected, aren't they?
Right.
And one, I would say it is unquestionably true that America is less prepared today to
prevent a 9-11 than it was on 9-11.
The other thing is, it is not about the Muslim world.
It is not about people who follow Islam.
It's about radical Islamist terrorism.
So it's about radical groups that use radical religious ideology as a political agenda, which is fostered by intentional organized political violence.
Those are the people you're against.
We have just set ourselves up for this.
And now, of course, people say, well, you're attacking Muslims.
And this is the great tragedy.
We spent decades creating security So people could, one, feel comfortable in their own homes, but also so we could start to focus on problems as opposed to people, right?
Instead of people running around saying, well, anybody that's named Mohammed, we have to check them out.
We could focus on people who are actually going to kill us.
Now what we've done is, you know, we have 10 million people here, millions who we know nothing about.
And if there's a terrorist attack tomorrow, how are you going to separate the wheat from the chaff?
This is, you know, people forget all the people we detained after 9-11 and 99.99999% of them weren't terrorist threats, but we didn't know because we were shocked that we didn't know how big it was.
So we had a corral all these people to find like.
Pennies, right?
And we've just created the whole situation again.
We already had the worst humanitarian catastrophe in U.S.
history in the way we're doing the border.
Now, if there's a terrorist attack and we have to run around and chase down 10, we'll have another one.
And who are they going to blame?
They'll blame Sep Gorka, right?
Because, you know, you're just evil, right?
I mean, they'll blame us.
And the reality is, we were the guys that were trying to do it right.
We can have a debate at another time as to whether it's radical Islam or Islam.
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All right, well, that's flown by.
We only have a few minutes left with our good friend Dr. Colonel Jim Carafano of the Heritage Foundation.
Let me ask you to get your crystal ball out.
You published a book entitled Brutal War, Jungle Fighting in Papua New Guinea.
It may not be a jungle, but house-to-house combat is almost as bad as jungle warfare.
Prepare our listeners, prepare our audience, for how messy and nasty the war in Israel and Gaza is going to be in the coming weeks, Jim.
This isn't going to be an easy on-off switch or an easy victory.
Well, yeah, I mean, you have to remember, before Hamas, the first Hamas fighter crawled over the wall, they knew that Israel was going to counter-attack.
And they knew there would be an offensive in Gaza.
And anybody that's seen if you've seen like the last 20 minutes of saving private Ryan right any anybody that's
ever seen urban warfare It knows how incredibly difficult it is and knows that if
the Israelis do go in in a major way That they're in a to win it which means they're gonna have
they're gonna Be going into tunnels and fighting through buildings
It's just gonna be you know There's gonna be a lot of casualties is baby gonna do what
needs to be done Does he have the staying power in your estimation? You know,
I I I don't know how mean
You know again they violated the basic principle demonstrate that Israel can defend itself
I don't see how they don't do an offensive, but, you know, we'll see how it goes.
Here's what people need to think about, which is the big, most Palestinians are going to be internally displaced.
No, but nobody really wants a massive.
Yeah, nobody.
And, you know, honestly, that's if you when you do that kind of thing, it just encourages more of it.
So if you reward Hamas by letting them deport a third of their population.
Right.
You know, so It's not just a question of I move out of my house and the Israelis invade and two weeks later I go back.
Those communities are going to be devastated.
It could be months or even years before people can move back into these communities.
There's going to be a massive internally displaced population in Gaza for a long time.
People are going to want to provide humanitarian aid because we always love to do that.
That's how we got where we are today.
All that aid went through the fingers of Hamas, made people rich, very little got down.
So the question is, how are you going to help the massive internal displaced population without just getting Hamas back into the game faster?
That's a bigger-than-a-bedrock problem people really need to start thinking about.
If you want to understand exactly what Jim is talking about, just do an internet search on the wealth of Yasser Arafat and his daughter.
Then you'll understand where that aid went.
We've been talking to the Heritage Foundation's Jim Carafano.
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