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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Second gag order imposed on President Trump
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I can't think of a better guest to discuss what has transpired in the last nine days in the Middle East than a mentor of mine, a man I'm honored to call not only a friend but a colleague, Dr. Dennis Prager.
Welcome back to America First.
I wish they were happier circumstances, but it's always, you know that, a joy to be with you.
Both on and off the air, I might add.
It has been far too long since we had a cigar together and we must remedy that in the not-too-distant future.
What does it mean to have a mitzvah?
I'm a bit confused because I'm a good Catholic boy and I'm not sure what having a mitzvah is.
In popular parlance among Jews, mitzvah, which is a Hebrew word, mitzvah, and I'll translate it in a moment, in popular parlance it means a particularly good deed.
But it actually means commandment, and it's a biblical word.
It's in the Torah very often.
You will keep my commandments, and the word mitzvah is used.
Again, it means commandment.
The interesting thing is, it's a combination of commandment and good deed.
So my father would say to me, if I didn't want to visit a relative in a hospital, he'd say, well Dennis, it's a mitzvah.
And that's all he had to say.
Well, oh, if it's a mitzvah, I gotta do it.
Good.
I'm now, as usual, more educated having spoken to you.
Everybody needs to listen to your show.
Everybody needs to follow you at Dennis Prager and support your amazing organization of the Prager University at PragerU.com.
Will you share with those who haven't heard your show in the last few days, Your reaction to what some have called, and I think statistically this is completely justifiable, the greatest loss of Jewish life since the Shoah, since the end of the Holocaust.
So I wrote my column last week, I write a column every Tuesday, and I wrote it, and I use the term that I've never used, because I think it has to be confined to the Nazis, and that is the word Nazi.
But if the term Nazi means those who wish to annihilate the Jewish people, then we have a new group of Nazis.
I began my piece with something you, as a religious individual, will find interesting.
So, the liturgy for the Passover Seder has a book.
It's called the Haggadah.
I actually have a commentary on the Haggadah called the Rational Haggadah.
This is not an ad, but if people are interested, they should and would love to read it.
It's for people of any faith.
So, I know the Haggadah pretty much by heart.
And the most famous line in it is about 2,000 years old.
The Haggadah is about 1,000 years old, but this line is about 2,000.
And what is the line?
In every generation, someone arises to annihilate us.
Not to persecute us.
Not to enslave us.
To annihilate us.
The Hebrew is to annihilate.
Literally, to put an end to.
Jew hatred has been unique.
The Jew hater doesn't dislike Jews.
You can survive being disliked.
But you can't survive exterminationist hatred.
And that is what Hezbollah, Iran, and Hamas, among others, have.
Did you happen to see – I assume you did, because you're so versed in everything that goes on in the world – but in case you missed it, There was a demonstration of pro-Palestinians in Sydney, Australia.
We played the video last week, the shocking video of the gas the Jews chant.
Yes, okay.
So for anybody who still harbors any doubt, Cornel West, who's not a deep man, unfortunately, and is running for president, He announced that, as I have been saying for the last 50 years, a Palestinian child's life is as precious as an Israeli child's life.
Of course, as I pointed out, tell that to the Palestinians.
Otherwise, it's a meaningless phrase.
Israelis know that Palestinian children are precious, but Palestinians don't know that Jewish children are precious.
So the line is stupid.
Your reaction to The idea that we are still hearing in the 60 Minutes interview just this weekend from this administration, that Iran, there's no evidence of any connection between Iran and this attack, despite the fact that we know it is a proxy of Tehran.
How long can that fantasy be maintained in American politics?
As long as the New York Times, NPR, PBS, the Washington Post, the LA Times, NBC, ABC, and CBS want to promulgate it.
The horrible lesson of the last few years is that if you have the media, you can convince people of anything, even men give birth.
He is the author of a veritable library of books.
I can recommend all of them.
The most recent, most important ones are his exegesis series, The Rational Bible.
You can get them wherever books are sold.
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It's painful.
Yeah, it is just, it's just shocking.
It's just shocking.
And anybody... I mean, he opened his latest episode with, you know, this level of atrocity is, of course, bad, but... And the idea that there's a but construction you can use after what we've witnessed, it just beggars belief.
Well, what separates us, and thank God, obviously not only us, but one of the things that separates you and me from many is that we know evil.
Naivete about evil is a large part of what allows isolationism.
That's so true, that's so true.
I mean, it's also interesting to me, maybe I should save it for the interview, but if you don't care, I don't care if I repeat myself.
No, just say it so I know where you're going.
Yeah, right.
So, what I don't understand is a religious Christian Being an isolationist.
That's so good.
God allowed us to be the strongest country on earth, but to only use that strength to protect ourselves?
Wow, that's so good.
That's so good.
And I mean it.
It's a puzzle.
Look, I've come to the sad conclusion.
It's true about Judaism, Catholicism, Protestantism, any religion.
A vast number of religious people are not really affected by their religion.
Yeah.
Well, it's a country club.
It's a label.
It's a country club.
It's a comfort zone.
It's a comfort zone.
Yeah.
How's your new hound doing?
Ask Sue.
She'll send you a free picture.
Is he used to your cigar smoke yet?
He loves it.
Really?
Yes, because he's pro-Nicaragua.
I mean, he's not a communist.
I thought you agreed with me that Cubans are the best cigars.
I thought we won you over to the guillotine cut and the Cuban cigar.
I am still Vcut and I'm still Nicaragua.
No!
You admitted to me you were wrong about the Vcut.
You admitted to me.
I have witnesses.
Oh my god.
Do you have that in writing?
I have video evidence.
It's on Hunter Biden's laptop.
I've got it.
Exactly.
Well, there was a guillotine cutter in the Biden laptop in his suitcase.
I presume you've flown through Tel Aviv's VIP thing.
Right.
The fact that I landed there and they had a cigar lounge blew my mind.
In the airport.
Oh, I didn't realize that.
Yes!
There's a cigar lounge!
PhD.
A couple of orthodox Jews recognized me and we went inside the cigar lounge to have a cigar.
Alright, standby.
I love it.
I love it.
Orthodox Jews recognize the human.
The Jewish community is a global community.
We are a global community.
I think his response over the last nine days has been incredible.
And the Israeli people have felt it.
I think he spoke with such morally clear terms, and the people of Israel believe the United States truly has their back, and that's exactly what we want our ally to think.
Really, Jeremy Bash?
Yes, the world is so impressed with the leadership.
The six billion dollars especially.
And when Biden gave his first speech four days late and he said, oh Israel, Israel better abide by the Geneva Conventions.
The moral equivalency argument with those who are slaughtering babies?
It's truly biblical.
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We are back with the author most recently of the whole series of exegetical works, The Rational Bible.
He is my colleague, a mentor, a good friend, Dr. Dennis Prager.
Welcome back to America First.
Great indeed to be with you, though it's not a happy time to be with you.
It is not a happy time, and it would be bad enough if we just had to deal with what our cousins in Israel are suffering right now.
But back home, back here, we have to deal with those who are Putatively on our side, allegedly conservatives, who already are saying, no, not our problem, not our issue, Israel has to deal with this by themselves, who can't seem to make the connection between innocence being slaughtered in America and innocence being slaughtered in Israel, or the idea that
You know, jihadists hate Christians as well as Jews.
Have you come to some theory as to why so-called conservatives still remain isolationist on this issue?
The truth is, I don't have a theory as to how they came to this, because I don't understand this as being conservative, and I don't understand this as being Judeo-Christian.
So, first of all, I would ask all of these And many of these people do a lot of good, I want to make that clear.
And I don't want to read them out of the conservative movement, because we have many battles to fight.
But I would just ask them, among other questions, the following.
I assume you have no contempt for Neville Chamberlain.
Because his argument, when he met with Hitler, was, Czechoslovakia is not our business.
So, if Czechoslovakia was not Britain's business in 39 or 38, then why would anything be our business in 2023?
But you can't mock Chamberlain and have the exact same view of evil on earth that he had That's all.
So I would like to ask any of the conservative isolationists, do you mock Neville Chamberlain's peace in our time, Czechoslovakia is not our business viewpoint?
If you do, on what grounds do you?
Secondly, I said to you off the air, and I'm repeating obviously for everybody because they didn't hear what I said to you, but One of the saddest realizations I've come to early in life, but especially as I've lived longer, is that for many people, their religiosity, I'm talking about Jews and Christians, whether it's Catholic, Protestant, any denomination, Judaism, very often the religion doesn't seem to have much of an impact on the outlook of a person in life.
And I don't understand how you could be a religious Christian.
Religious Jews in this regard, I think, are less likely to be isolationist.
But I don't know how you could be an isolationist and a religious Christian.
God gave America the greatest riches to any country in the history of the world, the greatest gifts that ever given to a country, but we are not to use it to help anyone else on earth except ourselves?
That includes Taiwan, that includes Israel, it includes Ukraine, it includes—would it have included Berlin during the Berlin Airlift?
Why was that our business?
Why was Korea our business?
Was true and wrong in going into Korea and saving Korea from the Communists?
Or at least South Korea?
And then to those who say, well we have to, as long as there are, you know, veterans living on the streets in America, we need to fix things at home first.
It's a non-sequitur.
That means we will never help anyone.
There will always be domestic issues to resolve.
They're not related arguments.
The reason that we have so many people coming into the United States illegally has nothing to do with Ukraine, nothing to do with Israel, nothing to do with Taiwan, nothing to do with Korea, nothing to do with any other country.
It is because the Democrats run the country and they are happy to see millions of people come in illegally.
That is the only reason.
It has nothing to do with any foreign quote-unquote entanglement.
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Are you worried or are you sure, Dennis, that Jerusalem will do what needs to be done?
I always have faith that whoever's in government there, at the end of the day, the Israelis will do what needs to be done.
Do you agree with me?
Providing that the usual doesn't take place, and that is, after Israel, Israelis are slaughtered, and the Israelis respond that within a couple of weeks the world says, It's disproportionate.
I've always wondered about that.
What would a proportionate response entail?
Going to Palestinian homes and killing the parents and children?
Burning them alive, as was done in some cases?
What does that even mean?
Was there a proportional response to Germany?
God forbid we would have lost the war if there was a proportional response.
Far more Germans died than English or Americans died.
Oh, that must mean we were wrong!
This notion of numbers determine morality is part of the moral confusion of our day.
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Oh, okay.
Sue made a 1230 zoom for me.
That's fine.
That's fine, we're good, we're good.
I loved it.
We'll do it anytime you want.
I love being with you.
Super.
All right.
God bless.
Best to Sue.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
God bless you.
Bye-bye.
Okay.
All righty.
Titles.
Put that in for Joe.
For Dennis.
16th.
Conservatives or Christians cannot be isolationists.
And cannot, let me put it in caps.
Alright.
Oh, do we have the Michael Caine cuts?
Uh, yeah, I have them.
Alright, can you show them?
Of course, the classic.
Oh, playback one, Alex.
Four.
Yeah.
Oh, it's low.
Three.
Two.
One... go!
Good.
I'm going to go get a drink.
Bye.
you You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!
Alright, come in with that.
Next one.
It's a little low at times, Alex.
Maybe it's time we all stop trying to outsmart the truth and let it have its day.
I'm sorry.
You're sorry?
You expect to destroy my world?
And then think that we're gonna shake hands?
I know what this means.
What does it mean?
It means your hatred, and it also means losing someone that I have cared for since I first heard his cries echo through this house.
But it might also mean saving your life.
And that is more important.
All right, actually, come in with that one.
Come in with Dark Knight.
Then we'll do MyPillow, and then we'll probably take some calls.
All righty.
Gotta respect someone who knows to quit when they're ahead.
All right.
Come in with Knight, and then Pillow.
Oh, and Title for Joe.
Hang on a second.
90 seconds.
Yep.
Okay.
40 seconds.
Okay.
Okay.
Maybe it's time we all stop trying to outsmart the truth and let it have its day.
I'm sorry.
You're sorry?
You expect to destroy my world and then think that we're going to shake hands?
No.
I know what this means.
What does it mean?
It means your hatred and it also means losing someone that I have cared for since I first heard his cries echo through this house.
But it might also mean saving your life.
And that is more important.
We salute you.
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Jerry in Colorado wants to chime in on what we were discussing with my friend Dennis.
Jerry, welcome to America First.
Thank you.
So, I just want to reach out.
Your question about people contributing to Israel, firstly, I'm in full support of Israel, and I do agree that we need to support Israel, both financially and militarily.
However, I think that when you look at what has transpired, conservatives go, we've had 40 years, excluding the Trump years, 40 years of endless wars, and we've gotten nothing for it.
We've had blood, treasure, and lives that have been expended in Afghanistan, Iraq, You know, Jerry, I understand it.
I understand the cynicism.
But what does that mean?
Does that mean Jews should die?
No, no, I think we have to support him again.
But here, explain this to me, Sebastian.
Why are they also advocating in the Congress and the Senate that we should be giving money
to Palestine?
Well, you know why.
I do know why.
And that's the kind of stuff that the Americans sit back and go, you know what, this is just a printing press.
But at the end of the day, the only question that matters is, it's what Dennis said, if you're a Christian, or you're a conservative, you can't be an isolationist.
You can't say only Americans matter, then you're not a Christian.
But at what point and where?
No, you've got to make... Stop making excuses, Jerry.
We have to make sure that our politicians do the right thing, but we're not going to be doing that by bitching and moaning and just listening to radio.
We've got to get politically engaged, right?
Either we have morals and morals exist, or we say screw them all, Jerry.
It's really that simple.
Do you understand?
I do, but how about term limits?
How about at least making people... How about them?
Great!
Make it happen.
Get out there.
What have you done for term limits, Jerry?
How old are you, Jerry?
I'm 64.
What have you done to get term limits in America?
Well, let's put it to you this way.
No, no, no.
Answer the question.
What have you done to make term limits a reality in America?
I'm going to answer you.
I raised $89,000 and one night I met with all the congressional team of Colorado.
I raised the money and that money was called... Money for what?
Money to support conservative causes and term limits.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't give me vague stuff about conservative causes.
What have you done to make...
Term limits are reality in America.
I just told you.
No, you said you raised money for conservative causes.
That doesn't mean anything.
What have you done specifically to make term limits a reality in America, Gerry?
Just answer that.
Don't give me stuff about conservative stuff.
Term limits.
What have you done about term limits?
I went down to the state of Colorado to the Congress and Senatorial Chambers.
I met with both.
When the Republicans held the position of Speaker, I went down and advocated and said, we have to instill term limits.
We have to put this on the agenda.
You mean term limits at a state house?
You think that's the issue?
Are you talking about Congress?
You said Congress.
What have you done to institute term limits in Congress, Jerry?
Alright, you're like, you're just dodging the question.
You're dodging the question, okay?
Don't dodge the question.
You can raise money for conservatives, you can go to the local state house, but if you're talking about, if you're moaning about what Washington is doing, then why aren't you running for office?
That's the question.
If my wife can do it, so can you, Jerry.
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For Joe, yes This is the toughest challenge of my life
Mm-hmm All right got some disagreements in the rumble chat as well
you want to hear some comments All right
Ninja, Jeske who's a regular in the chat says Dennis Prager judging us for not wanting to join the fight
of every war and we've already spent how much on other countries defense including
including Israel.
So what does Dennis think?
How are you?
Good, good, good.
What's your biggest story?
Hey, uh, Nephi, there's no, uh, hang on one second.
I have no audio in my ear.
It's coming there, which is going to create an echo.
Bear with me.
Um, so, uh, the story I did this morning, the FBI interviewed Rob Walker, Hunter Biden's business partner.
Yep.
And, uh, he said that the $3 million payment in 2017 was essentially a thank you gift.
It had no real business purpose.
And that Hunter Biden also borrowed $90,000 from him.
So, you know, in Hunter Biden's parlance, a loan is a gift.
Yes.
And Obamacare is a form of taxation.
Right.
Okay.
That's right.
Good.
Perfect.
60 seconds.
Standby.
Awesome.
fellowship.
Uh, yeeeesssss.
Fellowship.
At the top here.
Um, I'm not gonna use the audio.
I'll use that in the second hour.
So just B-roll, please.
Oh, and did you see they changed the phone number in Australia?
I changed it just now.
It's the... Now it's the... 7771.
241-7771.
Yep.
241-7771. Yep. Okay. Thanks.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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This is for the Jews who are suffering right now, but here's Fox's war correspondent in the region telling the truth about what happened in the last eight days.
Cut six.
We've seen the worst of humanity on display, Howie, really.
The worst that could be done to humans was done to these Israeli civilians.
Women, children, people who were peaceful people slaughtered in their own homes.
We watched as bodies were piled into the back of a pickup truck outside the Sderot police station.
The very minutes after this took place, as the attack was unfolding, we were the first crew down here in southern Israel at an evacuation point.
And we watched as mothers pulled their children out of the backs of their personal cars, trying to push them into waiting ambulances and get them any sort of help they could receive.
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It is Monday.
We must check in with the man we trust the most when it comes to news reporting, especially from The Swamp.
He is the founder, the editor-in-chief of that superlative website, justthenews.com, and host of Just The News, Not Noise, John Solomon.
Welcome back to America First.
Yeah, great to be with you, Seb.
All right, so who is Rob Walker, for those who are not familiar with that name?
And why do you have a story about him on your website today?
Well, he was of interest to the FBI.
A couple years ago, the FBI interviewed him because he was one of the business partners for Hunter Biden, particularly in the CEFC China deal.
And I think there's a pretty remarkable narrative that weaves through his FBI interview.
Rob Walker said, hey, a lot of times Hunter Biden got things That he didn't do anything for.
They were gifts.
They were thank-you gifts.
He talks about a $3 million payment that the Chinese made in 2017 as nothing more than a thank-you.
It didn't have a business purpose.
It was simply to put money into the Biden family pocket.
I don't remember that box on the IRS tax forms where just a gift.
I did nothing but they paid me a lot of money.
What category does that fall in?
I'm confused, John.
It's a whole new tax code called the Hunter Biden tax code, I think.
We're going to learn a lot about this.
I think this is going to be the next phase of the Hunter Biden case, which is we're going to see more and more instances of Hunter Biden getting gifts, large amounts of money or loans that look like gifts.
And so let's go through all the gifts that we have.
So let me tell you about one other one.
Rob Walker said he lent $90,000 to Hunter Biden at some point because he was short on cash.
And, oh, he never got paid back.
Hence, a loan may be a gift, as James Comer said on my show last week.
But remember, he got a diamond from the Chinese.
He got a Porsche from the Kazakhstanis.
He got $3 million from China, according to Rob Walker.
That really was a thank-you gift.
He got a $90,000 loan that he walked away from not paying.
And there's going to be millions of dollars, millions of dollars that we're going to divulge over the next few days.
They come in from Democratic fundraising figures, donors and bundlers who were funding and helping Hunter Biden live a better life and to take care of some of his many legal problems.
Again, they're structured as loans.
But were they really loans?
We'll find out more.
We have a lot of new information on that.
But the loan as a gift or the incredible lucky life of Hunter Biden, you get a lot of free things just for being the vice president or president's son.
Well, this is the issue.
What exactly did Hunter Biden do for all those millions of dollars is the question that nobody has been able to answer.
You are the author of the book, Fallout, Nuclear Bribes, Russian Spies and the Washington Lies that Enriched the Clinton and Biden Dynasties.
As a result, you are the man who knows.
You kind of skipped over it quickly because you know what you're talking about.
But tell us, tell a little bit more to our millions of listeners What the CEFC, why that company is so important for us to unravel its connection to the Vice President and now President's son?
Well, just think about this.
Joe Biden as President doesn't want to allow Americans to benefit from the energy resources under our feet here on our soil in the United States.
But he and his son were part of or his son was part of an agreement that there was a belief that Joe Biden at one point was being considered for a 10% stake in the venture that was going to help communist China buy up gas resources and oil resources in the United States.
Fracking know-how, an LNG port in Louisiana in the Gulf of Mexico.
So the Biden family doesn't want Americans to enjoy our energy richness, but they're glad to sell it or facilitate it to go to China.
Now, we learned it a couple days ago from the FBI interview and IRS interview with James Biden, the brother of Joe Biden, the uncle of Hunter Biden, that the entire family knew that CEFC China, that energy company that Hunter Biden was being paid millions to assist, That they, its chairman, was directly tied to the President of China, the Communist leader of China, President Xi.
He had a direct tie to the Chairman Yi, the head of CEFC.
So the Biden family knew it was dealing with somebody directly connected to the Chinese Communist government, and it was okay taking millions to help it try to buy energy resources in the United States and send it over to Beijing.
That is the influence peddling scheme that really was at the heart of The China CEFC deal.
You had Chairman Comer on your show.
You sent me an article concerning the allegations that the White House have misled Congress, the American people about Joe Biden's classified documents.
We've got a minute left, but John, it seems as if this story will never end.
The tales of corruption, mishandling of classified information.
It seems as if every week there's a new iteration.
And that's because there are 29,000 emails that were going back and forth from the Biden White House and the Obama White House with Hunter Biden's business partner.
This is a vast influence peddling scheme.
Vast.
And so there are going to be many, many more revelations about the hidden emails, the secret meetings.
But the Biden family had no problem selling access to Joe for large amounts of monies to foreigners who often had a less than savory background.
if it would help them make money in some scheme and usually money without a whole lot of work which I think is one of
the themes we're now seeing. It's serious stuff and it's gonna get a lot worse. Some of the things I'm learning
about now from law enforcement seem to take this even to the next level.
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I think my whole thing, I echo what Charlie said when you were on his show.
He said, I'm a war-weary millennial.
I support any forms of support for Israel, shy of American boots on the ground.
Like, that's just me personally.
Yeah, that's fine.
That's fine.
But that caller said, you know, deploying Americans.
Like, who said deploy Americans?
Nobody said deploy Americans.
I think the only ones who have said that are, like, I think Nikki Haley may have said that.
I'm not sure.
She did?
Let me see.
Someone did say that.
I'm trying to see.
Like, one of those, like, neocons.
Let me see who it was.
Maybe it was Lindsey Graham.
I'm not sure.
Probably Lindsey Graham, but yeah, that sounds more like a Lindsey Graham thing.
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I'm calling, you know, Dr. Gorka, I have utmost respect for you and Dennis Prager.
I listen to you guys all the time.
Well, I'm a little bit dismayed that everybody's going crazy over what's going on in Israel and Gaza right now.
For the last three years, nobody's cared about what's going on in Artsakh, in Armenia, being ethnic cleansed by the Azerbaijanis.
Yeah, but why are you surprised?
Why are you surprised?
I'm surprised because there's nothing in the world to gain by helping Armenia.
But why are you surprised that people are shocked that babies are being slaughtered in Jerusalem?
Why are you shocked?
I'm not shy.
I am shocked.
It's terrible that's what's happening over there.
But the same thing is happening in Artsakh.
I don't understand why you're surprised.
If the mainstream media doesn't cover it, it may as well not happen.
You know that, right?
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I'm on your guys' side, trust me.
No, I get it, I get it.
But the fact is, if the mainstream media doesn't care, it's as if it doesn't happen.
It's like, you know, does a tree, you know, does anybody hear a tree fall if it makes noise on an island that's not populated?
It's like it's happening on an unpopulated island.
That's the sad truth, Greg.
No, I couldn't agree with you more.
Oh, it's Antoinette, line two, California.
Hey, Dr. G, you let them have it.
Listen, this past Friday, Friday the 13th, you know, I listened to your program that Jennifer Horne was on, the major West Coast warrior, and I thought, I put my work down to the side, I listened a little bit, and I said, the hell with this!
I went with my United States flag, I went to this really busy corner here in Orange County on Pacific Coast Highway in Warner.
And I stood up there with another friend with the American flag and people were magnificent.
Actually, we were out there for three hours.
Some people that were making left turns, they said, Trump?
I said, well, not just Trump.
I said, we cannot be afraid of these terrorists.
We have to be strong.
This is why I'm out here.
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Before we go to my good friend, we have a very important question from the last hour from one of our callers, Line3Tom.
What's your question to America First?
Yeah, first thing is I just found your show about a couple months ago and I've been listening in and it's actually quite inspiring for me to hear.
But my question is, I always hear you talking about on your hour of getting involved.
Yeah.
So how a guy like me, how do you get started to be involved?
Perfect.
Perfect question.
I'll give you the example of my wife.
My wife ran for local office.
She failed.
She ran again and she won this year.
Local offices, local politics is where it's at.
Beyond that, what is she doing today?
She's knocking on doors with fellow Republicans in Virginia to make sure that people vote in the election.
So you can do that.
You can volunteer.
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You can operate a phone bank to make sure other Americans are engaged.
So there's so many things you can do.
Speak the truth, of course.
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Get others engaged.
But most important of all, my friend, you should be involved politically.
Running for local office, getting others To vote, registering people to vote, and the last thing, I always talk about my wife, she hates it, but she's also the senior election officer for our part of Virginia.
You can do that too.
Stay on the line, Tom.
Thank you for that very important question.
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Talking of my time in the White House, let's talk to one of the best people to work with when I was in the White House, a true man of honor, former senior advisor to the Vice President and former publisher of the Jerusalem Post.
He is in Israel right now and I'm so blessed to get him live with us here on America First.
Tom Rose, welcome back to America First.
It's an honor to be here.
It's great to see you.
So tell us, why are you in Israel and tell us what you are seeing.
You may have heard something about, actually there's no joking, I actually was in Israel for two weeks, had come home on the Tuesday prior to the massacre and turned right around and came back.
This is I've lived here for many years.
My children are all Israeli citizens.
Their mother is Israeli.
This is, in many ways, home for us.
And at a time like this, you want to be quote-unquote home.
And it's as awful as it is, and it's just an unspeakable situation for Jews and the Jewish people, and frankly, freedom-loving people everywhere, because I don't need to tell you, Sebastian, they win here and you're next.
Yeah.
So this is existential for us today, and it will be for everyone tomorrow if Israel is not freed to win this war decisively, unequivocally, and quickly.
Yeah.
Is there any hyperbole to those reports that what we witnessed Saturday before last is the biggest loss of Jewish life since the Shoah, since the Holocaust, Tom?
Certainly not.
The number is now up to 1,400.
And there's a sense here, you asked earlier what the sense is.
Expression that I'm using is that this entire country is an incredibly tightly wound, coiled up spring, just ready to explode if something doesn't happen quickly.
There's a unanimity.
Today was the opening session for the winter session of the Knesset, the Parliament.
Parliament goes on recess in the summer and doesn't reconvene until after the High Holidays.
Of course, the final day of the High Holy Day season was the day of this jihadist, genocidal massacre, the likes of which we have not seen since the Second World War.
And it betrayed The very purpose and the very meaning of the Jewish state, the purpose of the Jewish state was that there would be a place on this planet where Jews could be safe, could protect themselves by themselves.
And for four or five hours last week, that promise failed.
And we saw our enemies for what you certainly knew them to be, and I knew them to be, but too many of us did not.
Genocidal murderers.
There was no military purpose to this attack.
It wasn't the Yom Kippur War, which is often used as a point of comparison.
That was an Egyptian army and the Syrian army taking on the Israeli army.
This was an army of the most depraved, savage murderers barbaric inhumanity.
You've seen all the videos and those are Hamas videos.
Those aren't Israeli videos.
Those are Hamas videos designed to further wound the Jewish people and also, and I think a lot of folks in the West don't get this, those are recruitment videos.
You know, there's the old story about monsters hiding under the bed.
There are a lot of monsters out there, Sebastian, and If these monsters don't yet know where they can go to murder and rape and pillage, that's... A lot of the purpose of these Hamas videos was to, like ISIS did, in your heroic battle, I mean, you were... You're too modest to mention it, but you were absolutely fundamental in the development of our strategy for the destruction of ISIS in your time at the White House.
And you knew this better than anyone.
These people must be destroyed.
They're like rabid animals.
They must be put down.
There's no accommodation with a murderer.
You don't compromise with someone whose goal and purpose and meaning in life is to be a martyr in the act of murdering you.
There's no compromise with that.
Give us a sense of, we thought that the military response would occur more swiftly.
Allegedly it's imminent.
What is the state of the spirit of the people of Israel?
We've watched for almost a year now the contentious battle between the Supreme Court, between the Prime Minister's office, Are Israelis, have they been brought together by this event?
Are they ready to fight shoulder to shoulder to destroy Hamas?
Completely.
I tell you what, and I don't have any inside knowledge.
I'm very close to two members of the inner cabinet, but they have shut me out.
I mean, this is their full bore.
They're busy.
That's exactly right.
This country will Go absolutely ballistic if something doesn't happen.
I mean, if this government doesn't move, it'll be gone and it'll be replaced.
Because, and you hate to differentiate at a time like this, because a Jewish baby, an infant, a Holocaust survivor, a nursing home patient, these communities that were so brutally savaged, these were Liberal communities.
This was the Napa Valley of Israel.
I mean, you've been here many times.
The southern part of the country is where you go for great wine and organic food.
These were the demonstrators.
These were the protesters.
Or that concert in the desert.
That's hardly going to be hardcore, you know, right-wingers probably.
It was a peace concert.
It was a nature, organic food.
It was all these young kids, you know, dancing all night.
There were probably a lot of drugs and alcohol, and it was a kid's concert a mile away from the fence.
This is just a painful, painful lesson in, and I know you've spoken about this, the trust and the faith in technology.
This was a $1 billion defensive barrier with the most sophisticated seismic
technologies and sonar and the only thing we lacked on that border, Sebastian, were soldiers.
Yeah.
We're talking to my former White House colleague, former publisher of the Jerusalem Post, Tom Rose.
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I didn't want to say this on the air.
Hang on, hang on.
You're still hot on air.
You want us to kill the mics?
No.
Alright, carry on.
This place, if he doesn't act, soon, he'll be gone.
Yeah, no, I think, you know, the clock is ticking.
Have you seen this individual, the IDF spokesman who's doing a lot of interviews on American cable news?
Jonathan Conricus?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Can you help me find a way to him?
Because I've DMed him, but I guess he must be getting thousands of DMs.
Right.
I will.
I'll contact him tonight.
I mean, I'm sure he's up.
Great.
And anybody that you recommend to get on from Israel, in addition to yourself, would be superb.
Okay.
Okay.
Do you know Caroline Glick?
You've spoken to Caroline Glick, I'm sure.
Oh, I haven't had her on yet, but I know her well.
Yeah.
We should, we should get, we should get Caroline Glick back, Jeff.
You remember her?
He's asking who?
Caroline Glick, you remember her?
I think so.
I'll send you her contact details.
Oh, please, please, right.
No, people are... Patience is running very thin.
And there's concern at higher levels that all this support from America is a double-edged sword.
That, you know, two carrier task forces off the coast here limit Israeli flexibility.
They don't There was thinking that Gaza could wait, and that the immediate danger was Hezbollah, that the damage that had been done to Hamas rendered it at least temporarily impotent, but that Hezbollah is a far greater military threat, and the thought was, particularly if you look at the prepositioning of military assets, that the north, that Israel was going to go after Hezbollah, but
Now there's a sense that the American presence limits Israel as much as it is meant to deter Hezbollah and Iran.
That's the sense.
Well look, what did Biden say in his first stinking speech?
He's four days late and he said, and Israel better abide by the Geneva Conventions.
I mean, that tells you everything.
And last night, he's promoting a Palestinian state.
I mean, if anything, it would have been the nail in the coffin to a Palestinian state.
It would be the genocidal massacre performed by the governing authority of the one self-governing Palestinian entity.
Alright, I'm going to do L.I.
at the top here, Eric, and then I'm going to T.O.P.
cut 13, and then we're going to go to Tom.
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We are back with my former White House colleague who is talking to us from Israel, Tom Rose, former publisher of the Jerusalem Post.
Having worked in the Trump administration with me, I have to get your reaction to the This cut from Senator Tom Cotton.
Cut 13.
Play cut.
Were you surprised by his take in the words of calling Hezbollah, quote, very smart, not that he supports them, but giving them any kind of accolades in the middle of this?
What concerns me even more is this administration's actions.
As I've said, they've been soft on Iran versus President Trump, who was very, very tough on Iran and stood squarely with Israel.
And just look more broadly.
It wasn't on President Trump's watch that Kabul collapsed in 21.
It wasn't on President Trump's watch So I get the mainstream media saying, oh, President Trump called Hamas smart, as if we're supposed to think terrorists are stupid.
But even Fox News did it.
But Senator Carton had a very important point there, didn't he?
That when President Trump was in the White House, Jews weren't being slaughtered.
We moved our embassy to Jerusalem.
Yeah.
There was no war.
We withdrew from the JCPOA.
There was no war.
We undertook maximum economic pressure, crippling sanctions on Iran.
No war.
An Iranian uranium enrichment state, I think, and you'll correct me if I'm wrong, at about 4 or 5%.
Correct.
We killed Qasem Soleimani.
We killed Abu Madi al-Muhandis, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
Again, without war.
We destroyed, thanks to you, Sebastian Gorka, and others, ISIS.
The results...
Iran was isolated with crippling sanctions.
She was on her back heels.
Then Biden took over, and we saw where we are now.
Iran is enriched to 60%.
The most pessimistic assessments are that it's only a few weeks away from reaching bomb-grade potential.
Sudan is in civil war.
We have the worst massacre of Jews inside sovereign Israel since the Holocaust.
So we've had two years of embracing our enemy, distancing ourselves from our friends and this isn't going to be a genie that's easily put back in the bottle.
It takes a long time to build things and Joe Biden has proven to the world it's very easy to wreck them.
Well let's listen to the current incumbent Joe Biden in a pre-recorded interview that aired this weekend on 60 Minutes.
He's telling Israel what they should or shouldn't do.
Cut for play cut.
Would you support the Israeli occupation of Gaza at this point?
I think it'd be a big mistake.
Look, what happened in Gaza, in my view, is Hamas and the extreme elements of Hamas don't represent all the Palestinian people.
And I think that it would be a mistake for Israel to occupy Gaza again, but to going in and taking out Let's ignore for a second the mumbling, the stumbling, the clear incapacity of that individual.
But Hamas down south is a necessary requirement.
Let's ignore for a second the mumbling, the stumbling, the clear incapacity of that individual.
But this idea, can we just deal with this straight on?
Of course there are innocent people in Gaza, but the idea that Hamas represents some fraction
of a fraction.
Tom, you've read the polls that I've read from inside Gaza, from inside the West Bank, what the population thinks about the Jews and what should happen to Israel.
When are we going to talk honestly about the culture of death in these parts of the territory?
Well, we're now talking about it in Israel as forthrightly and directly as has ever been discussed since the establishment of the state 75 years ago.
How do you destroy Hamas without occupying Gaza?
I got news for our president.
Israel will reoccupy Gaza.
Hopefully, we'll find some way not to have to stay there.
And as far as the innocent Palestinian civilians, 70% of Palestinians in Gaza, that's 7-0, support suicide bombings.
95% think there should be no State of Israel.
And these innocent civilians, were they the tens of thousands who spontaneously took to the streets on Saturday to dance and cheer and pass out sweets at news that babies had been slaughtered?
Infants shot in their cribs, nursing home patients murdered in their beds.
What kind of people are these?
And what about the demonstrations here in America, in New York, in Australia, on the streets of London?
How do people not understand that this phenomena is a global phenomena, Tom?
It's, you know, people say, who are these?
Why would they be pro-Hamas?
At my alma mater, Columbia University in New York, where 2,000 people gathered last week, shouting, death to the Jews.
Where 20,000 people in Australia, at the Opera House, were chanting in unison, gas the Jews.
They're not pro-Hamas.
They're pro-genocide.
These are people that openly advocate the murder of Jews wherever they are.
They're exterminationists.
They're genocidal Nazis.
That's all they are, and they have to be called out for what they are.
They are Islamist Nazis.
Yeah.
I think we've got the title for this segment.
They're not pro-Hamas, they're pro-genocide.
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Biden has embraced our enemies.
Good old Tom.
Yeah.
I thought the name sounded familiar.
We've only had him on like twice before, I think.
Two or three times, yeah.
I think that's the first time we've had him on video.
Oh, let's do a little video with everybody before we finish tonight that I can send to Victoria for her birthday.
Oh, of course.
That's a great idea.
Alright, so what have we played?
We've played Biden 4, Cotton, Biden stumbling around, Yankst.
We still have the other Michael Caine cut as well, the Italian job.
Oh my gosh!
Yeah, we gotta do that.
We'll do that in E. E, alright.
There's the Adams Cup, but that's long.
That's 91 seconds.
Adam's cut is good, though.
There's also the Trump cut, which is long, but also good.
Actually, I'll use Adam's with Mort.
That's good.
Can you play me the Trump cut?
Cut 10.
I understand candidates that are losing by 57 to 70 points are getting together with Rhino Paul Ryan, Mitt the Loser Romney, Bill No Guts or No Talent Bar, and some broken political investors that will soon come to me, as most others already have.
These failed candidates should have started by campaigning effectively, which they didn't because they really don't have the skill or the talent to do so.
Romney, who today couldn't get elected dog catcher in the great state of Utah, should have beaten an absolutely failed first-term Obama.
Should have beaten him very easily.
If he and Rhino Paul fought as hard against Obama as they do against President Donald J. Trump, they would never have lost.
They would have beaten Obama.
But remember, Republicans eat their young.
They really do.
They eat their young.
Terrible statement, but it's true.
That is savage.
I love it.
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Come in with eight.
door liner.
I'm going to be doing a lot of work on this.
Thank you.
In this heightened environment, there's no question we're seeing an increase in reported threats, and we've got to be on the lookout, especially for lone actors who may take inspiration from recent events to commit violence of their own.
So I'd encourage you to stay vigilant, because as the first line of defense protecting our communities, you're often the first to see the signs that someone may be mobilizing to violence.
That's the director of the FBI at the International Association of Chiefs of Police.
It's interesting.
He's saying, oh, we should be on the lookout for other jihadis, and it may not just be Israel.
So I guess, hey, Eric, what was the biggest FBI operation ever?
It was the January 6 investigation.
Do you think they won't be tracking down 61-year-old grandmothers now?
Oh, I'm sure they're going to be just as vigilant.
They're going to infiltrate mosques, just like they want to infiltrate Catholic churches.
They're going to go all out, surely.
Oh, that's so good.
The Catholics in Virginia, the traditional Catholics, are on the FBI radar because they could be terrorists.
How about the mosques?
I wonder if the mosques are being targeted by the FBI.
Oh, my gosh.
You have to laugh, don't you?
Shocking though, really.
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Hi.
Yeah, I think this horrible, horrible event If there's any shred of a silver lining, it's that it'll show everyone here how important our Second Amendment is.
Yes.
I have to imagine gun sales have increased.
I did hear though, do you think the NRA did like a reverse false flag with Hamas on this attack?
Is that meant to be a joke?
Babies have been slaughtered.
You think that's funny, you piece of human excrement?
Do you think that's funny to joke about grandmothers being killed on Facebook Live?
You piece of crap.
Do you think it's funny that women are taken hostage, raped and murdered so you can make a joke, you piece of absolute trash?
You are scum.
Do you understand that?
You have no value as a human being.
You're not a man.
You're not even a child.
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George.
Thank you, Dr. Gorkoff.
First, I'd like to apologize for losing my stuff last time on your radio show.
I couldn't contain my emotions.
That's okay.
What I was trying to say is I was there on September 11th, and I would rather live that day again than live what the Israelis did.
But my question to you today Is where are the anti-Hamas Palestinians?
I haven't seen any, doctor.
Yeah, yeah.
If any exist, George, you know what they're doing?
They're hiding.
Because if they dared to say anything in public about how killing babies That are sleeping with their parents in a kibbutz is bad.
I think you know what would happen to them, George.
Their fellow peace-loving Palestinians would gut them too.
Well, in my opinion, they're just as bad then.
Well, absolutely!
If you don't stop bad people, you are creating a permissive environment.
It's like Vaclav Havel, it's like Solzhenitsyn said, one person who speaks the truth can make the whole edifice of lies and tyranny collapse.
But you heard the figures from Tom Rose in Israel.
More than 70% of those living in the West Bank, living in Gaza, agree with Hamas, my friend.
Of course they do.
That's why they live there.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, and of course the great irony is that countries like Egypt don't want them in their countries and have built a wall around the West Bank and Gaza.
And Jordan, one of the most passive Arabic countries there is, doesn't want them.
Yeah.
Well, look, Jordan doesn't want them for many reasons.
One of them, they've got 600,000 of them already.
I was in the refugee camp in Jordan with my family for Christmas three years ago, and Jordan is on the brink of potential collapse.
God bless you, George.
Thank you for calling back.
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Welcome back to America First.
Well, it's a bad time.
It's almost a nightmare time, but I'm glad to be on to discuss what's going on in the world.
All right, we have so many questions to ask you, but first here's a shocking kind of revelation, some kind of relief out of New York, which of course is home to more than a million Jews, the highest concentration anywhere in the world outside of Israel, where their mayor, who has been quite a disappointment since he came into office, has shown more leadership than the White House on what we are witnessing in the Middle East.
This is Eric Adams, the mayor of New York, cut to.
We are not alright when we see grandmothers being pulled away from their homes and children shot in front of their families.
We are not alright when right here in the city of New York you have those who celebrate at the same time when the devastation is taking place in our city.
We are not all right when Hamas believes that they are fighting on behalf of something in their destructive, despicable action that carried out.
We are not all right when we still have hostages who have not come home to their family.
We are not all right.
And we're not going to say we have a stiff upper lip and act like everything is fine.
Everything is not fine.
Israel has a right to defend himself, and that's the right that we know.
Your fight is our fight.
Your fight is our fight.
And right here in New York, We have the largest Jewish population outside of Israel.
This is the place that our voices must raise and cascade throughout the entire country.
We will not be alright until every person responsible for this act is held accountable.
And we don't have to pretend.
Mort, are you as pleasantly surprised as I am by the robustness of the Mayor's statement there?
Look, of course, those are moving words of enormous support and understanding of the horror that has just transpired.
But frankly, I wish he had condemned the people in the streets Supporting the Hamas Nazis murdering Jews and raping Jewish women.
I wish he had publicly condemned Columbia University for not condemning the rallies where they praise Hamas, the Hamas murderers, and the NYU rallies where they praise the Hamas murderers.
I wish he had condemned those universities and those people by name.
Because these rallies all over the country, even the world, Sebastian, this reminds me of the German beer halls of the 30s when you had rallies in the beer halls screaming for the murder of Jews.
And I see these beer halls in the streets of the universities.
And the streets of the major cities.
So, yes, I'm glad he said nice words of understanding of the Har's, but what would be important is to stop these people in the streets inspiring others to hate Jews in Israel.
Yeah, we showed the footage, we showed the pictures from New York on Monday last.
It looked like it was the West Bank, it looked like it was the Gaza.
People in masks, people wearing terrorist shawls.
People holding massive banners that said, globalize the Intifada.
Then we have the footage from London, from Sydney, where we had people literally chanting the phrase, gas the Jews, gas the Jews.
People need to understand, this isn't just about Israel, it's about Jews everywhere, and it's about the threat to Christians, is it not?
The Iranian Nazis, the Hamas Nazis, the Hezbollah Nazis constantly proclaim, first the Saturday people, next the Sunday people.
They say, make it clear, first the Jews, then the Christians, and the other non-believers of Islam.
So that's, we have to understand that this is a war against the West, not simply against the Jews.
The Jews are simply first.
And I have to say, I must say this.
I blame, in part, President Biden for what has happened.
He has funded Iran enormously, $16 billion in the last two weeks.
He's ignored the sanctions on Iran that Trump put in.
They've earned $50 billion in two and a half years.
They have huge funds now.
And he gave us Robert Malley to be the liaison to Iran, a man who's against sanctions on Hamas or sanctions on Iran.
I blame President Biden in large part, and do you know in the last two days, do you know what he says in every single interview, Sebastian?
Dr. Gorka?
He says we need a pathway to be established for a Palestinian state.
Is this what we should be talking about now?
Well, that's what you do when you give in to terrorists, and that's what you do when you're on the sides of terrorists.
But thank you for your moral clarity.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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What is left?
What is left?
Kirby, Atoms, we did... Oh, then I'll probably tee up 12.
Alrighty.
And then, have I got anything tonight?
Um, Schmitt tonight, since, A, you're gone Thursday, but also they couldn't do it anyway, so that's at 7.
seven .
Oh, no, that's Michael Caine.
It's not on the sheet.
And then later he said LTO 12.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Seeing them all jump on that talking point, like he called him all smart, like it's so disingenuous.
They know what they're saying.
Of course they do.
Nicky's trying really hard for number two though because Santas is kind of you know.
He's got a lot of work to do.
Five, four, three, two, one.
Three, two, one, go.
You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off.
One of my favorite lines of any movie.
The legendary Michael Caine from the original The Only Italian Job.
You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off.
We might have to review that movie for our Making Movies Great Again.
Michael Caine, we salute you.
He has announced his official retirement from the acting business at the ripe old age of 90.
Wow, what a career.
What a gentleman.
Somebody who's not a gentlewoman at all, who likes to stab her former boss in the back, is the former Trump cabinet member.
Yeah, it's so weird.
The ambassador to the UN is a cabinet-level position.
The one, the only, Nikki Haley!
She sounds a bit desperate.
Cut 12.
It's why I continue to say it is time for a new generational leader.
We've got to get past the headlines of the past.
I mean, look, he congratulated the Chinese Communist Party not too long ago.
He's saying Hezbollah's smart.
I can tell you at the United Nations, when I was there and I dealt with all of them every day, you don't go and compliment any of them.
Because what that does is that makes America look weak.
It doesn't make America look strong.
It doesn't make America have friends with them.
What you do is you show strength.
You let them know what we expect of them.
You show strength?
You mean like crushing ISIS?
Like killing Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?
Like telling Kim we will turn North Korea into a sheet of glass if you launch nuclear missiles?
Saying the same to the mullahs in Iran?
You mean that kind of strength?
You hack?
You harridan?
Will you play that as b-roll?
Because it's so funny.
Look at Jake Tapper's face.
And by the way, Jeff, why would you go on CNN to bash Donald Trump if you're a conservative, Jeff?
Because they'll go anywhere to bring him on TV right now.
Look at Tapper.
Doesn't he look like Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh?
Doesn't he look really sad?
Why does Tapper look so sad, Eric?
Uh, he just, he looks like he doesn't want to be there.
He knows he's on a sinking ship, I think.
No!
No, I mean, what?
What do you mean?
I mean, we've got three and a half million listeners, and he's got what?
Uh, maybe four hundred thousand viewers?
I mean, that's less than Cartoon Network, right?
Oh, it is a lot less than the Cartoon Network, you sad individual.
And Haley, you're even worse, because you pretend to be a patriot, and you're nothing except a money-grubbing...
Hack.
That's all you are, really.
Somebody who's the antithesis of Nikki Haley.
A patriot.
An extraordinary patriot.
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You have to stand up and say the truth and say the obvious, because there are so many people denying the truth and denying the obvious.
I mean, we were just sitting here watching part of that White House news conference with Kirby and then Jean-Pierre.
I mean, you watch this stuff and you say to yourself, these people are lying all the time.
There's no end to it.
And they have this platform.
And so the only antidote to that is getting up and making sure that people at least have a chance to understand what's going on.
Well, it's a matter of conscience as well.
I mean, you just have to do the things you believe in.
And it's not about money.
It's about what's great for the country.
I mean, you know, we owe a lot to this country.
We've had great lives, great professional things.
And if it weren't for Merrick Garland and Chris Way, we'd be happy, you know, people looking down the end of our professional lives.
But they managed to ruin that.
So even better time to stand up and complain about the transgressions of the Merrick Garlands and the Christopher Ways.
I think one of the most popular videos we ever posted online, well, again and again and again, was with that man and his partner, his muse, his inspiration.
That's Joe DeGeneva.
And when they come in studio, along with Victoria Tunsing, you guys love it.
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Because they're warriors.
And what better guest to discuss what it means to be a man on the Manhood Hour than a man who, he just never gives up, and he fights all the time.
We may have too many lawyers in the world.
What did Shakespeare say?
Kill all the lawyers first.
But there are one or two that are true warriors, and we are honored to discuss these issues with a personal friend of mine, the one, the only, Joe DeGenova.
Good afternoon.
So is Shakespeare a little bit harsh on your profession, Joe?
Not at all.
Not at all.
I agree with Billy Shakespeare.
All right, so let's start with Why is it?
I'm going to do things in the reverse order to how we usually do here on Manhood Hour.
We have like half a dozen key questions for all of our great, great guests.
And we kind of build up to what that person is doing today.
But let's do things a little bit in reverse to just challenge our listeners and viewers.
What happened to courage in America, Joe?
And I don't mean just amongst attorneys or judges or politicians, but I look at what happened to us under the COVID pandemic and how we just, you know, bent the knee in front of that little fascist Fauci.
What happened to courage, the virtue of courage, that makes all the other virtues possible?
Well, that is a truly stellar question, because what it means is a lot of Americans have become cowardly, fearful of the government.
More important than that, fearful of speaking out and expressing their views, telling people what they think, afraid that they're going to be cancelled, lose a job, lose friends, etc., etc.
The point of being in a free society is to be able to speak out.
And what's happened is the Biden administration and all the people around it in the media and academia and the government are trying to silence people.
They don't want people to say the things that they in the government disagree with.
And a lot of people just are frightened of the government now.
They're frightened of the media.
They're frightened of the university mantra.
They're frightened of the people who condemn everything that happens in the world that we all believe is true and honorable and great.
And the only antidote to that is to speak out against those people and to stand up for what you believe in.
And you either do that or you're a goner.
Is what we are witnessing, and I'm not looking for some kind of excuse or a way out, but you live in the political world.
You were a U.S.
attorney for the district.
Is the lack of courage something that is More uniquely a function of the quote-unquote elites.
If we get out of the bi-coastal big city centers, are real Americans there?
You know, are all men, you know, succumbing to that fear?
Or is it really just a function of the swamp, let's say?
Well, I think it is endemic to the swamp.
There's no doubt about that.
But it has infiltrated areas around the country which have heretofore been immune from it.
And that's because of this campaign called Toxic Masculinity, that men are just too manly.
They're too masculine.
We just can't have that in a free and open society and have people feel safe.
What utter nonsense.
I mean, there's nothing more important than having brave firemen and firewomen, for that matter.
Policemen, policewomen, people in authority who wield authority with honor and dignity.
And what they're doing is, what the academics and the people in government, the Obamas of this world, who spent their lives trying to make sure that people were
not too manly.
The most important thing we have to do is to stand up for that. And we have to teach kids that
courage is a vital human responsibility, that it's a trait that people have to have in order to succeed
and to be honorable and dignified and to believe in themselves.
And what we have is fear, the fear that people are going to be destroyed because they stand up for what they believe in.
I mean, I just can't stand, for example, to be in a discussion And then people just don't want to say things because they're afraid they're going to be condemned.
And you just can't do that.
You have to say what you believe and what you think.
And you have to be able to defend yourself.
You obviously have to be able to defend your position.
But that's not hard these days because the people on the other side are irrational.
They're totally irrational.
I mean, put aside the fact that most of them are Marxists.
They're communists.
They believe in a different world, a different society.
They don't like America.
They don't like what America stands for.
They don't like the Constitution.
They don't like due process.
They don't like the presumption of innocence.
They don't like free speech.
You name it.
They don't like it.
They really think that the Founding Fathers were really bad people.
You know, let's take down those statues of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
What nonsense!
What utter nonsense!
And how many people have given in, have succumbed to that?
You've been fighting the good fight for many years now.
Has the assault on upright manhood, has it ever been as bad as it is today, Joe?
No, never.
And by the way, the transgender movement is a manifestation of that.
The idea that men or boys want to become women, not because they really do want to become women, but because they want something else.
Like this swimmer who says all of a sudden he's decided, because he was a lousy male swimmer, he wants to be a great woman swimmer.
So he changes genders and starts winning prizes.
Now, just look at that for a second.
There is no way in a rational world that the NCAA or all these swimming organizations should accept him as a woman swimmer.
He is not a woman.
I don't care what he says.
I don't care what he believes he is.
He can believe anything he wants to about himself, but he doesn't get to force me to believe that's what he is.
He has the chromosomes that he had, He has the genitalia that he has.
He is a man.
He has the muscle structure.
He has the lung structure of a male, and that's what he is.
And yet, look at it.
The NCAA and swimming organizations recognize him as a woman.
That is ludicrous.
That's what we're fighting.
We're fighting irrationality, anti-intellectualism.
It's like it's the 15th century.
Yeah, this is such a good point that, you know, the left accuses the right of being science deniers.
If you think that Will Thomas is a woman, you are... It is not anti-intellectualism.
It is fantasy.
It is magical thinking.
And the fact, let me just add one point, the fact that he goes from being ranked 422nd in male swimming, I mean the bottom of the pile, 422nd, and then grows his hair long, doesn't have any surgery, says his name is now Leah, and he crushes all the women, becomes the national champion.
There's also another aspect, That is a lack of honor.
Men should be honorable.
He has no honor because he is a cheat.
It is nothing more complicated than that.
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We are back with our very good friend Joe DeGeneva, former U.S. Attorney.
Attorney and so much more for the District of Columbia.
Joe, for those who maybe just, you know, happened upon the show today or we, you know, we add new markets every single week.
Tell the world a little bit about your story.
How did you end up to be, you know, at the heights of the political and legal profession in America?
Tell us a little bit about where Joe came from and your career path.
Well, you'll be surprised to know that I was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware, and my neighbor was Joe Biden.
So you must have grown up surrounded by the Puerto Ricans like he did.
Yes, yes.
We had many Puerto Ricans in our Italian neighborhood.
Little Italy was just full of Puerto Ricans running all over the place.
I was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware, went to a great boys' Catholic school called Salesianum, and then went to law school, became an assistant U.S.
attorney, got involved in politics, became the United States attorney for the District
of Columbia, worked on Capitol Hill and the Senate and the House, got involved in presidential
politics, worked for Ronald Reagan, and just have loved life ever since, stayed in Washington,
D.C., did investigations for Newt Gingrich in the House of Representatives, married my
wonderful wife, Victoria Tunsing, who I met at the Republican National Convention in 1980
when Ronald Reagan was nominated.
We've got married 11 months later.
By the way, it's her birthday today and we will be celebrating it this evening.
It's been a wonderful time.
We've enjoyed the politics and the law and the city of Washington.
We were here when Washington was a nice town, a good town.
When Democrats were decent people.
Democrats aren't decent people anymore.
Make no mistake about it.
There may be a few good Democrats around, but they're few and far between.
And so the good fight is on.
I mean, you know, if you love your country and you want to save it, get off your fanny and do something about it.
Especially vote and get your friends to vote.
Get your family to vote.
Well, we salute you and Victoria.
We will be raising a glass to her this evening.
Many happy returns of the day.
You left out you're also special counsel, correct, for the Department of Justice?
Oh, actually, I was what they called an independent counsel.
I was appointed by the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia to investigate a matter and did that job, and special counsel to the House of Representatives to investigate the Teamsters.
We've done a lot of very, very interesting things.
Life has been good to us.
We're happy.
We're very saddened by what has happened to the Department of Justice and the FBI.
That will never be fixed unless there's a new president, and that Biden and Garland and Ray have to be gone for that to be fixed.
But even though we view this as a sad time, it's a time of great challenge.
People need to stand up and stand up for what they believe in.
Well, you've had an incredible career and it continues.
We'll talk about what you've been doing to try and bring truth and justice to America in the last few years.
Talk a little bit about, you said that, you know, there are very few good Democrats left.
We talked about what has happened to the legal profession in general.
And we talked about the lack of honor amongst many, many men, especially in the political sphere.
Will you give us your analysis, your diagnosis of what has happened to your field, the field of the law?
whether it's practicing attorneys, whether it's judges, we see another judge impose another
gag order against President Trump.
Can you tell us what has happened to your profession in the last 30, 40 years?
It has become a much more liberal and left-leaning profession.
The American Bar Association, which is now headed by a former Obama administration official, really is a joke.
It used to stand up for lawyers' rights.
Now it stands up for anything but lawyers' rights.
The antithesis of what lawyers used to be is now what is the American bar.
And it's people who are afraid.
There are some really fine lawyers in this country doing some really great things, but the problem is there aren't enough of them.
The bar associations, the ethics committees in these bars have become very left-wing.
They try to hurt people.
They try to hurt lawyers that disagree with them.
This is happening all over the country.
And one of the things The law schools have become engines of Marxism.
It started in the 1980s when the faculties became redder and redder and redder, and now they are really red.
They are producing lawyers who really fundamentally want to change everything.
There's nothing wrong with change.
But they want to change the Constitution.
They want to change the rules of the road.
There's an old saying, you know, when Democrats and left-leaning and the really roguish left don't like the rules, they just change them to their advantage.
And that's exactly what's happening in America today.
And that's what too many lawyers are doing.
They're undermining all the great principles that made this country wonderful.
And they're harming the country in the process.
We often ask our guests where they think the assault on virtue, on manhood is coming from.
What the greatest perpetrator of that ideological assault is.
You mentioned the schools.
Would you say in general it's the education system?
Absolutely.
And especially the teachers' unions, especially people like Randy Weingarten, the head of the American Federation of Teachers.
They hate men.
By the way, when you look around, see how many strong men you see in the teachers' union and the teachers' movement.
Just look and see where you find strong men in that movement.
They do not exist.
That movement has been captured.
By the women of the left, by the LGBTQ community, by the trans community.
And that's what education has become about.
It's not knowledge anymore.
It's not science.
It's not learning how to count, how to read, how to write.
The mathematical scores in the major cities all over this country are from a fourth world country.
And the teachers' unions are bragging about what a great job they're doing.
The teachers' unions are ruining public education, which is why people are running away from public education.
Just look at the results, for example, from Baltimore, where nary a student is capable of just fundamental comprehension when they graduate high school.
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It's the Manhood Hour with our very special guest, Joe DeGenoa.
Joe, my favorite question for all of our guests.
When you were formulating for yourself, The kind of man you want to be, what it means to be a man, who was the greatest influence on you?
We've had all kinds of answers from those who are very fortunate, who said my father, to others who said a football coach, a fictional character in a novel.
Who shaped the modern Joe DiGenoa?
Oh, my father, without a doubt.
He was a fabulous guy, a strong-willed Italian-American, a great, by the way, opera singer, a marvelous, marvelous artist.
But he was also a patron of the arts and a man of letters.
He had studied English literature.
Our house was filled with books, some of which are actually behind me right now, many of the books over here.
These are some of the original books from our house.
Literature, music, theater, everything we could do to improve our lives.
Newspapers in the house.
a Roman Catholic family.
We went to an Italian-American church in Wilmington, Delaware, St. Anthony of Padua.
So we were surrounded by people who believed in building men in systems of religion and
honor and dignity.
And my father was just—he was a fabulous guy.
I mean, he was a football player.
He played football in college at Mount St. Mary's in Emmitsburg, Maryland.
So he was really a Renaissance man.
I was a very lucky guy, but he was it.
I mean, there were a lot of great people that I met during the process who were helpful and influential, but hands down, the person who made me what I am—and I think it's pretty good, I'm self-interested, of course—but my father was a great man, and he was a stellar human being in every sense of the word.
Would you share with us some of the adjectives, some of the descriptors for when you think of him, what are the words that describe his masculinity?
What does it mean to be a man in terms of Father DeGeneva?
Well, he didn't tolerate fools.
He didn't like liars.
He didn't like people who didn't honor their commitments.
He believed in doing a day's work for a day's pay.
He didn't like people who didn't live up to their obligations.
He was really a guy who really lived what he believed.
But he was also a man with a gigantic sense of humor.
In order to be a great opera singer, you have to be extremely disciplined and you have to be cultured.
But you also have to be able to laugh and to enjoy life.
And that's what artists do probably better than anybody.
They enjoy life, unless they get too much into themselves and become introspective to the point of self-destruction.
He was the opposite.
He was an extrovert.
That's what the thing about him was.
It was all about life and enjoying life and whether it was great wine, great food, great conversation, great literature, great movies.
And by the way, he enjoyed When he saw a great singer, he was not one of these people that he only viewed himself as a great performer.
He would point out, for example, Elvis Presley.
I'll never forget the first time I ever heard him talk about Elvis Presley.
He said, you know what?
This guy has a great voice.
He's a great performer.
He's a magnificent singer.
He said he doesn't get the credit that he's due, and he gets all this adulation.
But as an artist, My father thought he was fabulous.
And that told me a lot about my father, because not only did he love great opera singers like U.C.
Bjerling and Enrico Caruso and, you know, all the people that made opera great in America, but he loved great artists.
He loved Sinatra.
I mean, you know, so to me, and I inherited all of that, my love of music and my singing that I do because I love to sing.
He was the real thing.
I mean, there was no BS about my dad.
I think that's a pretty good description of you.
No BS about Joe DiGenova and he's the real thing.
And by the way, he's a pretty wicked Renaissance man himself.
And man, does he get food and does he know how to cook it?
I can tell you from experience.
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They came after your wife, they came after you, the DOJ.
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You have fought so valiantly for so many years.
Can I ask you what the toughest fight for you was?
Is it the one you're in right now?
What has been the biggest challenge for you as a man?
I think right now is the biggest challenge because the, because it's difficult to fight
the government and the media and academia.
And of course, the major media outlets and all the newspapers are the antithesis of everything that they should be.
They're no longer friends of the First Amendment.
They're enemies of the First Amendment.
Now, when you say that about them, they get extremely defensive.
I know people in the media, and they go ballistic when you say, well, what is it about us?
What are you talking about?
How can you possibly say that people in the media are against the First Amendment?
And I say, well, if you can't figure that out, then you're really not a journalist, because any good journalist, after watching the media for the last five or six years, would know that the media is corrupt, that it's become an arm of the Democratic Party and the left-wing culture in this country, and no longer reports the news accurately, fairly, and with dispatch.
And I think this is probably the roughest time of all, because we've never had such a corrupt federal law enforcement and intelligence community.
I don't know if you saw that interview with Leon Panetta the other night on Fox, where he said he had no regrets about signing the letter with the 50 other intelligence officials, where they lied.
And laughed about it.
Yes, and let me tell you something.
This is what Leon Panetta has been for years.
He is a fraud.
He is a phony.
He is a factotum of the defense establishment and the intelligence community.
He is an enemy of the people.
He has his wonderful little think tank out in California.
and he sits there with that smug look on his face.
That's the reason the fight is so difficult, is that people that you would think
would be people of honor are no longer people of honor.
There is nothing honorable about Leon Panetta anymore.
That performance the other day on Fox was like something out of Dante's Inferno.
I can't figure out which level of hell he's in, but boy, it's pretty low.
Oh, he will have a special, there'll be a special ring in Dante's Inferno for the likes of Panetta, Stroke, McCabe, Comey, and Brennan.
And Michael Hayden.
And Michael Hayden.
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Let's try and tie these things together.
of a Tansingh. Let's talk, let's try and tie these things together. The inordinate corruption,
the men of no honour like Panetta, like Hayden, like Brennan, and what good men do in response.
So there is this question, my good friend Kurt Schlichter has been ruminating over this in his columns at Town Hall, that we're at a point in time where the institutions No longer safeguard the values upon which they were built.
In fact, the institutions, whether it's the DOJ, the CIA, the FBI, they are predicated to undermine those institutions.
What do good men do at this point?
We don't want to fall to their level.
We don't want to use immoral tactics just because we're the good guys, because at that point we are no longer the good guys.
But what do we do in an era Where the institutions we fought for are now the opposite of what they were meant to be.
Well, people have to get involved in politics and in the institutions in their communities and make them better.
They can't allow those institutions to rot and to let other people take them over.
People have to run for school boards.
I know your wife has done this.
She's gotten involved.
Katie's gotten involved in local politics and state politics in Virginia.
She's making a difference.
More people have to do that.
Conservatives tend to stay out of stuff like that.
They tend to want to think things through.
There are those of us who are out there in the media trying to fight the good fight, the battle of ideas, which is so essential.
When people are lying about what the facts are, it's absolutely vital that people like me and Victoria and you are out there saying things to correct the record.
But that's not enough.
There have to be other people that go out and get engaged.
Run for school boards and do all sorts of things.
Try to figure out how to reform institutions like their universities.
Stop giving money to schools that are corrupt.
Don't give any more money to the endowment of your university if it's corrupt.
Believe me, the one thing that these universities and institutions thrive on is money. They listen to it. I'm looking at the
University of Pennsylvania and what it has become, this awful, rat-infested place.
Harvard, Yale, disgusting, anti-intellectual dens of stupidity, irrationality, bigotry, anti-Semitism.
You name it. If you're different, they hate you.
The only thing they don't want to hate is people who are on the far left.
They've made up their mind about everything, and so that's why people have to speak up.
They can't be bashful.
They have to get their facts right.
You got to be right when you're in an argument.
You got to get your facts right.
But boy, let me tell you something.
There's nothing more invigorating than being in a vigorous debate with people and going out and fighting for what you believe in.
It's a wonderful way to live your life.
It's the fuel I run on.
Get engaged.
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It's been an amazing hour, a very special manhood hour with our guest Joe DiGenova, but it would be very remiss of me if in our last few minutes I didn't ask you to comment on what's happening to President Trump and now the second gag order against him from Judge Chotkin, who was actually a law colleague at the same firm with Hunter Biden.
Well, I think that Judge Chutkan should not be sitting in this case, first of all.
She declined to recuse herself from the case, which I think was a mistake.
I think the appearance of everything that she has said about the January 6th defendants and the president disqualified her from the appearance of fairness in this case, from which it will never recover.
She put a gag order on the president today.
She refused to do a sweeping gag order that Jack Smith had requested.
But she did impose a gag order on the president that he can't talk about the judge, can't criticize the judge, the prosecutor, basically witnesses, etc.
I think it's an unconstitutional order.
I don't think there's any way that you can restrict the ability of any defendant, let alone a candidate for president of the United States.
Judge Chutkan's job is to do one thing.
It's to make sure the president gets a fair trial.
She says, She agrees with Jack Smith that he may be trying to influence a jury pool.
Well, what the hell does she think Jack Smith was trying to do when he's held press conferences, made statements, done all sorts of things publicly about the president?
The bottom line is this.
I think her order is illegal.
I'm sure they'll appeal it.
But given what's happened in the courts and before, I think the president is going to face a very unfriendly court of appeals.
And if he tries to go to the Supreme Court, I don't think they will become involved.
So he's going to be probably limited, even though I think the order is illegal and unconstitutional.
Besides, he's a candidate for president.
He's not just a defendant.
She says, well, he is a defendant.
No, he's not just a defendant.
He's a defendant who's been targeted by the opposition party and the opposition candidate, for heaven's sakes.
Well, I know one thing and you know it too.
He's never going to give up because he loves America just like all of our listeners and you do.
You're a great man, Joe DiGenova.
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