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Oct. 2, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Who's the real patriot? Matt Gaetz or Kevin McCarthy?

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	Not the American way!
	These damn bills that come out here all the damn time!
	Come out here at the last second!
	And I gotta try to figure out how to vote for my people!
	How ashamed of- or you should be!
	You should be ashamed of yourselves!
	I'm sick of it!
	Every year!
	We give power to one person!
	It was not made that way in the Constitution!
	It was around when it was written!
	Now we've passed rules that stop each one of us.
	Enough!
	I feel like somebody trying to be released from Egypt.
	Let my people go!
	My God, they sent me here to vote for them!
	They sent me here to vote for them, to argue for them!
	But I'm trapped.
	I'm trapped by rules that have been forced down our throats Folks!
	We live in a democracy!
	But not here.
	But not here.
	So you go back and you tell your people, I'd like to do that, but the Speaker has so much power, so much control, and each one of us do in their districts.
	And have to go back and say that.
	And you can say on your side of the aisle, oh no, no, that's not the case.
	But yes you do.
	All of us know you gotta deal with it.
	When's it gonna stop?
	I've never met that man, but I'd like to.
	He's Mike Bost.
	He is Congressman for the 12th District of Illinois, but that video that I found at the weekend comes when he was a local politician, a state rep.
	And that, that level... Oh, greetings.
	This is America First and I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	That level of righteous indignation Is what we should all be feeling today.
	For so many reasons.
	What has America become?
	Again, they sold us down the river.
	With a 45 day continuing resolution.
	Budget.
	There's nothing to do with the interests of the American people.
	No, nothing.
	Nothing at all.
	And you can choose a side in our debate.
	Kevin McCarthy versus Matt Gaetz.
	But really you're kind of missing the picture.
	The political elite doesn't give a damn about you on either side of the aisle.
	It's time we woke up.
	And not only is it The grifters, the future lobbyists, the guys and gals who are literally in bed with the lobbying companies, the big interest groups.
	It's the fabric of our republic.
	President Trump, who we've decided before the show started, should um you know keep his legal counsels but he should represent himself in all of his legal battles because he was majestic today outside the court with no notes they're doing it to him again and now some lunatic lefty judge in his 70s who protested the Vietnam war
	As he's trying to strip President Trump of all his companies, is mugging for the camera.
	Did you see the photograph of him?
	Look at this.
	He takes his glasses off and has a big, I can't use the word, a big feces eating grin on his face.
	Why?
	Because I'm the guy who's going to bankrupt President Trump.
	That's a judge.
	We should all be as angry as Congressman Bost.
	Mr. G, let's get him on the show.
	Let's reach out to him.
	I haven't seen him ever give an interview.
	He's a former Marine.
	Of course he's a former firefighter and a truck driver.
	Not a politician, and God bless him.
	I don't know what's happened.
	The call board has exploded.
	We are six minutes into the show.
	All of our good buddies, every single one of our good buddies has lit up the board.
	Let's just take some calls.
	Let's start with ladies first, line one, Judy.
	Hey, Judy.
	Dr. Gorka, I'm calling simply to say when I took a look at this judge, And I took a look at that mug of his.
	I've never saw a man so ugly in my life and I got news for you.
	If I ever visualize Satan, that's him.
	That would be him.
	He's just missing horns.
	The man is pure evil and he's enjoying himself and laughing.
	Oh my God.
	Oh my God.
	I don't even know what to say.
	He's just Satan.
	This is Satan.
	We're dealing with a lot of satanic people.
	He's one of them, okay?
	He is reveling in destroying a fellow human being because he politically, Arthur Engeron, politically disagrees with President Trump and so he's laughing about destroying him, Judy.
	But listen, Dr. Gawker, take a good look at his face.
	This man is so ugly!
	I don't care whether he's ugly, okay?
	Not everybody, you know, is at the top of the beauty tree when they're born, okay?
	Some of them, you know, fall off the ugly tree and they hit every branch on the way down, but that's not the problem.
	The problem is the ugliness of his soul, Judy.
	That's the issue.
	That's right, but it's right on his face.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	You'd be shocked.
	You'd be shocked how you could see people from their face exactly sometimes who they are.
	This man, you could see the ugliness from within is right there on his face.
	You can see the blackness of his soul on his face.
	Thank you, Judy.
	Let's go to Don, our buddy on the other side of the nation, Los Angeles.
	Hey, Don.
	Dr. G, Rolling Thunder on the right.
	How are you today, sir?
	Pissed.
	How are you?
	Well, equally.
	Bubbling and boiling.
	You know, Dr. G, I...
	I have a book, I remember I got, when Andrew C. McCarthy wrote a book during the Obama administration, I can't even talk, administration, called Faithless Execution.
	And he said he didn't favor impeaching Obama because he didn't think it would work and it would just help him politically, but he says if you're going to do it, here's how you do it.
	And it was that doctrine of law, faithless execution, which I assume means You swear an oath to uphold the Constitution and the laws
	of the country, and if you just ignore them, that's, you know, what Mr. Biden is doing on
	the border is the most horrific example of it.
	But right across the line, I think all of he and all of his little minions could be
	impeached under that doctrine.
	I just wondered what you thought about that.
	You know, we'll be talking to Kurt Schlichter in the second hour.
	I'll ask him about that concept in law.
	But, you know, at this point, we just have to win the elections.
	We just have to crush them politically.
	We just have to get President Trump in the White House and we have to primary every fake Republican out there until actually patriots represent this nation.
	That's my response.
	Great question, Don.
	Thank you, Judy.
	Let's go to Arizona.
	Dave, how are we doing, Dave?
	Mega ultra warrior dittos, sir.
	Greetings.
	What brings you to our show today?
	Well, once again I'm disappointed in the money, laundering, and grift of the Congress as a full body.
	It was disgusting the way they cheered themselves.
	As they suspended the rules and said, you know what?
	Since 1996, we're not going to pass budget bills.
	We're not going to uphold our oath of obligation to the Constitution.
	And then we're going to cheer ourselves for not doing our job.
	And 90, 90 so-called Republicans voted for it, Dave.
	Thankfully, Gosar is one of them.
	I send him emails and or call him.
	daily. He holds the line. He's one of the select 20. But we just don't have enough patriots
	in the Congress. You said it correctly. We need to get people that are not so consumed
	by political power and what how they're going to get paid from the people that they represent.
	And I'm talking about the lobbyists, not the people that they serve. We the people.
	It's disgusting, sir.
	It is absolutely disgusting.
	I think I have to read the name of the 90s sometime in the next three hours because Americans need to know who betrayed them with the letter R after their name.
	Thank you, Dave.
	The rest of you, keep on the line.
	We will make time for your calls later today.
	We have the Manhood Hour today with a personal friend of mine, someone who was present at the Battle of Benghazi.
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	President Trump, why are we saying President Trump should represent himself, especially in Atlanta?
	Because of this.
	This is just a shorter clip of a 10-minute extemporaneous speech he gave, no notes, outside the New York courthouse today.
	He just tells the truth.
	Play cut.
	This is a continuation of the single greatest witch hunt of all time.
	We have a rogue judge who rules that properties are worth a tiny fraction.
	One one hundred.
	A tiny fraction of what they actually are.
	We have a racist attorney general who's a horror show who ran on the basis that she was going to get Trump before she even knew anything about me.
	She used this to run for governor.
	She failed in her attempt to run for governor.
	She had virtually no polling.
	She came back and she said, well, now I'll go back to get Trump again.
	And this is what we have.
	It's a scam.
	It's a sham.
	Just so you know, my financial statements are phenomenal.
	They are actually less, in terms of the numbers used, than the actual net worth.
	The actual net worth is substantially more.
	No bank was affected.
	No bank was hurt.
	They don't even know why they have to be involved.
	And they've so testified.
	They can't believe that they're involved.
	Because they were paid back on time.
	There were no defaults.
	There were no problems.
	And it was like a perfect client.
	In the meantime, people are being murdered all over the sidewalks of New York.
	There was no victim here.
	The banks were represented by the best, biggest, most prestigious law firms in the state of New York, actually in the country.
	Some of the biggest and best law firms.
	In all cases, the biggest and best law firms.
	That's who represented them.
	The banks got back their money.
	Again, there was never a default.
	There was never a problem.
	Everything was perfect.
	There was no crime.
	The crime is against me, because we have a corrupt district attorney, but we have a corrupt attorney general, and it all comes down from the DOJ.
	They're totally coordinated.
	It's in Washington, because I'm leading.
	I'm the leading candidate, and I'm leading Biden by 10 points.
	And I'm leading the Republicans by 50 and 60 points.
	That's pretty much, they say, over.
	I never accept that, but they say it's over.
	This has to do with election interference, plain and simple.
	They're trying to damage me so that I don't do as well as I'm doing in the election.
	Our country's gone to hell.
	It's all politics.
	All of it.
	And he's absolutely right.
	These are failed political actors who want to destroy him.
	Why?
	Because he is the only person who can replace the current incumbent in the White House.
	First guest in studio is somebody on a very important issue we wanted to cover the last time he was here.
	There's so much breaking news it makes hard to keep up with.
	The real tactical consequences of a nation run by those who hate it.
	He is a former member of the Trump cabinet, a man who served this nation honorably in two different service uniforms.
	Former Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie, welcome back in studio.
	Good to see you too, sir.
	You mentioned an issue that I'm so glad our former colleague Hogan Gidley picked up.
	He was debating somebody whose credentials I will discuss in a moment, called Michael La Rosa on Fox, about a story you first briefed me on, and it's an outrage.
	It's what's happening at the Veterans Administration now that President Trump and you are not in charge.
	Just listen to Hogan Gidley, cut 11.
	It's not just what he said about General Milley.
	It's what he said about the people who died for this country, calling them losers and suckers, according to The Atlantic as well.
	It's what they've done with... He didn't say that.
	It's what they've done with... They played politics with military families' benefits.
	It's what they're doing now on the floor of the Senate with promotions for the military.
	That's one senator.
	It's the Republican Party.
	He rebuilt the military after Obama and Biden gutted it.
	It's Joe Biden who goes in front of the military and talks about himself.
	Joe Biden doesn't understand what's going on over there.
	And he cleared out the VA when they weren't serving the veterans and Biden put the 8,000 people we fired back into place and they weren't even doing their job.
	They were hurting the military.
	Don't tell me that the left is supportive of the military.
	They are not and haven't been for a long time.
	That tells you what Fox has become.
	Who is that person who was saying how great Biden is and how great Milley was?
	I looked up Michael LaRosa, who began his career as an intern for Hillary Clinton's re-election campaign to the Senate.
	Then he worked as a segment producer for Chris Matthews' show Hardball.
	And then he rose to the heights of—this is his military expertise—press secretary for Michelle Obama.
	Okay.
	Are we clear now what Fox has become?
	That's the person they're inviting to debate Hogan Goodley.
	Secretary Wilkie, I still don't want to believe it.
	So the people you fired for cause are now rehired?
	Uh, they are brought back with back pay.
	Um, even those who engaged in what we described as grievous misconduct.
	But, Doc, you have to remember what happened the day these people came back into office.
	The Secretary had four priorities.
	The first was transgender services.
	The Secretary of Veterans Affairs.
	Transgender, union prerogative, Diversity, equity and inclusion, as I've said to you, which is a remarkable thing considering that 48% of the workforce at VA is African-American.
	And the fourth was remote work.
	Now that's particularly fascinating.
	The previous Undersecretary of Veterans Affairs lived in Denver, came to Washington for one day a month.
	Hang on, this can't be true.
	No, it's very true.
	It's true.
	He's now gone.
	Picked up a cabinet aide?
	Well, a deputy.
	The deputy secretary.
	For one day a month?
	For one day a month.
	The secretary rarely comes into the office.
	I've refrained from criticizing them, but since they have been on the attack falsely against President Trump on the whole panoply of military issues, And this wasn't because of some kind of victory in a court case.
	This was a deal between the workers you fired and the White House.
	And the government union.
	And I said to you that the left has two major organizations dedicated to disrupting the country.
	The teachers union.
	A group of people that FDR said would be a threat to the survival of the Republic, which is why he refused to recognize government unions.
	It's leading to horror stories.
	We will share one with you next.
	We're talking to the former Secretary for Veterans Affairs, a senior strategic contributor at Newsmax.
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	We'll be back with the Secretary in a moment.
	Thanks for watching.
	And have a great day.
	Bye.
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	We're back with Secretary Wilkie, former Veterans Affairs Cabinet member for the Trump administration.
	I was sent the following story, Secretary, by Eddie Gallagher.
	I think you know that name, the man who was wrongfully accused of doing illicit things as a SEAL.
	This headline just tells you everything you need to know.
	This is from military.com.
	A suicidal veteran texted the VA crisis line.
	The responder didn't respond and minutes later the veteran was dead.
	Doesn't that tell you everything we need to know?
	Well it does and of course the mainstream media is silent in seven languages.
	I mean they used to go ape if I didn't have anything in my official schedule and They've stopped covering the Veterans Affairs Department, of course.
	They're hemorrhaging jobs.
	At least NBC broke the cycle by saying that this administration is losing thousands of employees every few months because they've had it.
	Could this be part of the reason why they're bringing back all those malefactors?
	It could be other than they're going to play obeisance to the unions.
	That's right.
	Let's talk about paying obeisance to the regime.
	I just don't want to swear on radio.
	This is the outgoing Chairman of the Joint Chiefs who left office at the weekend and in front of the current President and Vice President who is strangely giggling in the front row.
	It's very peculiar.
	This is part of Mark Milley's speech as he exited his position as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and listen to what he had to say about the 45th President of the United States.
	Play cut.
	To a country We don't take an oath to a tribe.
	We don't take an oath to a religion.
	We don't take an oath to a king, or a queen, or to a tyrant, or a dictator.
	And we don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator.
	It's strange.
	I never heard Mark Milley in office use such pugilistic words, not with regards to China or ISIS.
	I didn't hear him, you know, use such angry tones when critical race theory turned out to be being taught at West Point.
	But he seems very angry at President Trump as Secretary.
	And he didn't put his stars on the table when 13 Americans were killed because of the criminality.
	Correct.
	Jake Sullivan.
	team in the Biden White House.
	The National Security Advisors claim to fame was that he was Hillary's bagman.
	Correct.
	Jake Sullivan.
	And he gave the Steele dossier to various people in this town.
	But look, he claims he's not a politician.
	The left claims he's not a politician.
	He just negated that speech.
	It's weird that he wasn't that angry when BLM tried to burn down St. John's.
	John the Perpiscopal.
	No, and then he went on an apology tour.
	For walking across the square with the President.
	Absolutely.
	Even though military leaders since the time of George Washington have been called upon, because the Constitution says that they should, to quell domestic violence, domestic And isn't it the principle, as somebody who served as a civilian in the DoD, in the cabinet, but worn the cloth of the Republic, isn't the whole point of the Republic that we have civilian control of the military, and that the military should stand next to the Commander-in-Chief?
	Isn't that the whole point?
	Absolutely.
	That's the point.
	And I think you will find, when the archives are finally opened, Yeah.
	And shouldn't there be consequences?
	several of the other senior leaders did everything they could to thwart the President of the
	United States.
	And shouldn't there be consequences for that?
	There should be.
	But there should be consequences for what happened in Afghanistan and nothing.
	You get a two-page State Department after-action review and 13 Americans are dead and we are
	humiliated in a way that we've never been.
	I mean, even in Vietnam we'd already left.
	Combat operations had stopped three years before.
	I would say that it used to be said that the most political chairman of the Joint Chiefs was Maxwell D. Taylor.
	Because of his affinity for the Kennedy family.
	But even General Taylor would have never said anything in public.
	And no other Secretary of Defense would have said what Lloyd Austin did recently.
	That he's proud of how we left in Afghanistan.
	We've been talking to former Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	So much to talk about, so little time.
	We haven't even discussed the brouhaha over the fire alarm in the office buildings in Congress.
	Jamal Bowman, he just wants to sweep it under the rug.
	Cut 12.
	Do you still stand by your statement that the fire alarm was an accident?
	You know, I don't know why this has gotten so much attention.
	I was literally just in a rush to go vote, man.
	That's all it was.
	Are you afraid of any repercussions either from leadership or from legal aid to Capitol Police?
	I mean, listen, I take responsibility for what I did, you know, but like I said, I was in a rush to go vote and, you know, investigation will sort everything else out.
	Yeah, it's weird why you don't think it's such a big deal.
	Why did you lawyer up?
	So strange when the capped police came to have a chat with you about committing a crime, which is interrupting an official proceedings, which people got 10, 12, 15 years for on January the 6th, and activating the fire alarm during a Senate vote when there wasn't a fire.
	Why did you lawyer up if it was just a mistake?
	We shall discuss and dissect later, but it's time to check in with the man who has all the facts.
	The man we rely upon, especially when it comes to the swamp.
	He is the founder, the editor-in-chief of the superb outlet JustTheNews.com.
	Follow him on JSolomonReports.
	John Solomon, happy Monday!
	Happy Monday!
	Maybe not for Jamal Bowman, but for most other people.
	Yeah, I think he's in a little bit of hot water.
	I doubt he's going to get a 22-year custodial sentence, but let's talk about the bigger picture.
	Let's open the aperture when it comes to what's happened in the last 72 hours on Capitol Hill.
	You sent me an article earlier today about the House Freedom Caucus, the gates war between McCarthy, whether he's going to be kicked out of the caucus, lose his conference, his membership of various committees, because he is, we'll see, is he proposing a vacation of the chair move with regards to the Speaker?
	Help me out here, John.
	You've got, you know, the best sources on Capitol Hill.
	Is there really a battle royale between the Speaker and Matt Gaetz, or is it more a personal difference of opinions?
	What are you hearing?
	Well, I think it's going to be a battle royale because Matt Gaetz is a guy that can command the stage, as can Kevin McCarthy as speaker.
	And neither one's going to give the ground on this.
	And I think that at the end of the day, Republicans campaigned in 2022 that they would run the budget differently.
	They'd come in and pass their 12 appropriations bills.
	For the first time since 1996.
	And then they didn't get it done before September 30th.
	I mean, they had nine months.
	They could have planned for this.
	And so those rebels, as they're now called in the media, that were holding out for the Republicans to stick to their word, were on course to shut down the government until Kevin McCarthy made a deal with Democrats.
	Now, McCarthy didn't fund all of next year.
	He funded 45 days with a commitment that during that 45 days, he'd get the other budget bills done.
	And they would pass a full budget the way Congress was supposed to do it under law, but hasn't done it since 1996.
	Now, if Kevin McCarthy gets those bills done, if they do cut spending, if they do get a deal on the border to get all of the border security provisions that were in that temporary CR, Kevin McCarthy is going to be in a pretty strong position.
	People aren't going to want to throw him out if he gets that done.
	Sure, he needed another 45 days.
	But he would have gotten the job done.
	And Matt Gaetz will have to decide, well, is it worth shooting the king if you can't kill the king anymore?
	And I think that's the dynamic we're in right now.
	There are some personal matters here.
	I think Congressman Gaetz blames McCarthy for some of the investigations he's been under.
	Obviously, he's been cleared in most of those cases.
	So there's just a lot of tension between the two.
	But I think at the end of the day, the principle of doing the budget the way Republicans said it is the real heart of this dispute.
	So the things we're hearing are regarding the charges against Matt that were dropped by the DOJ.
	I think a former FBI agent actually went to prison for perjury or what have you.
	And the allegation that he's still being investigated by the Ethics Committee.
	On Capitol Hill, and that he doesn't want to be under investigation if he's been cleared, and this is, you know, the tension between Kevin and between Matt.
	Is this business as usual, with egos colliding?
	You've been covering this for decades, or is there something more to this?
	Or could there be greater consequences than just, you know, two politicians having a fashé between themselves?
	That's a great question.
	I think history will determine which way this ends.
	It depends how both men act between now and the next 45 days when that deadline occurs.
	If Republicans achieve what they said they were going to do, which is actually make people vote on all 12 spending bills, identify what's in and out, who votes for it, who's for policies, who's against policies, then I think the Republican Party will feel good about itself and they might not remember this 45-day extra reprieve that they needed. If they kick the can down
	the road a second time, they don't get it done, they can't reach agreements, and we're funded by CR
	for yet another budget year, they'll be held to pay, not just for Kevin McCarthy. All those
	Republicans that ran on the idea we're going to run Washington differently, they will have failed at their
	core mission. And so there's a lot riding on this. I actually do think this dispute is mostly about
	can Republicans live up to the word.
	I think Kevin McCarthy is, from what I can tell in the last few days, serious about getting the 12 bills done.
	He still has to own the fact that he missed the end of the fiscal year.
	And I think Matt Gaetz is also serious about making sure he gets that done.
	It'll be interesting to see if at the end of the day they succeed.
	Let's switch gears for the last minute we have with John Solomon.
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	Some people are saying there's a strange parallel or lack of a parallel between the Senator Menendez and the Hunter Biden investigations.
	Does the Menendez indictment create problems for the existing Biden family narrative, John?
	Well, I think for the larger Democratic Party, there is such a culture of corruption hanging over this Democratic Party.
	You've got Menendez.
	You've got Hunter Biden.
	You've got impeachment of Joe Biden.
	You've got other cases that are pending out there.
	The Illinois Speaker's case, where there was just massive bribery being paid to Democratic politicians.
	The party has a culture of corruption problem that's going to linger over the 2024 election and potentially be an advantage for Republicans.
	That said, there are a lot of similarities.
	All right.
	All right.
	The Menendez family got a Mercedes and Hunter Biden got a Porsche.
	The Menendez family got paid in gold bars.
	Hunter Biden got paid in good old-fashioned hard cash.
	And don't forget the diamond.
	Don't forget the diamond, John.
	How can I forget that diamond?
	That's right.
	It's just remarkable that that's the, and the effort to Democrats to try to excuse this is really, particularly in the case of Biden, almost unthinkable.
	In an earlier generation, no Americans would have stood for this.
	I do think that Menendez's case feels eerily similar to the Biden case in a lot of respects, and it's that larger Democrats felt comfortable doing these things that could linger in voters' minds come 2024.
	The culture of corruption in the Democrat Party.
	How much will it be on the minds of Americans as we go to vote?
	Find out more every single day.
	Jay Solomon reports on Twitter.
	Thank you, John.
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	What's actually behind the McCarthy-Gates wall?
	What's actually behind the McCarthy-Gates wall?
	Alright, and Wilkie.
	Um, Wilkie... Do the second segment.
	Uh, oh, okay.
	I gotta go back and re-edit it then.
	Um...
	That's a good title.
	Um... for Wilkie.
	The greatest coward in a uniform.
	Mark Milley.
	Move down that, move down that. What a shortcut.
	Oh, come in with cut three.
	Come in with three.
	Aligner Align the top of the head with the top of the head.
	Align the top of the head with the top of the head.
	Please see the complete video on www.Treadmill-TV.com I hope this experience for the Speaker has been one of a personal revelation.
	I'm not being facetious. I, uh, um...
	Anyway...
	you That man's the President.
	That man is the President of the United States.
	It's a tell.
	Whenever he says, not a joke, I'm not being facetious, that's when he's lying.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to Victor Silver Spring.
	Hey, Sebastian.
	Hey.
	I heard today that the Democrats are thinking of bringing back the so-called Fairness Doctrine.
	Correct.
	Which Reagan got rid of back in 85, 87.
	And they want to call it the civility doctrine.
	We must be civil and you can't say anything bad or else you'll have to give the other guy equal time.
	I don't want to go through that again.
	I agree.
	It's just a relabelling of censorship.
	Whether it's Fairness Doctrine, Civility Doctrine, it's simply putting a muzzle, or worse, on conservatives who don't agree with their socialist propaganda.
	You're absolutely right, Victor.
	Let's go to our other buddy on the other side of the planet, or at least America, in Los Angeles, Brent.
	Happy Monday, Brent.
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	Yeah, we're going to discuss the truth about Dianne Feinstein in the next hour, and also a little bit of information on the individual.
	Of course, she's a radical that Gavin Grusom Newsom has appointed temporarily to her seat.
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	you you
	Thank you.
	Carry us?
	Would you?
	Would you?
	More guns lead to more death!
	Look at the data!
	You're not looking at any data!
	You're accounting for the gun lobby!
	Look at the data!
	More guns lead to more deaths!
	States that have open county laws have more deaths!
	States that have open county laws have more deaths!
	Are you listening to what I'm saying?
	That was Jamal Bowman!
	That was the... Jeff, was that the first time we kind of saw him in action before the firearm incident?
	I think so.
	I'm gonna work here in school!
	I'm gonna work in school!
	That was Jamal Bowman!
	That was the...
	Jeff, was that the first time we kind of saw him in action before the firearm incident?
	I think so. That's when I first kind of heard about him.
	And he was screaming about what? Guns are bad with Massey, right?
	Exactly.
	Okay, that was his first claim to fame.
	And then at the weekend, what did he do?
	He pulled a fire alarm, which is actually a crime in D.C.
	Ladies and gentlemen, can we just be clear here?
	Can we get some accuracy on our side?
	As soon as that video leaked of Jamal, people said, that's a felony!
	He should go to prison.
	No, it's not a felony.
	Can you, like, take 30 seconds to actually check on social media whether it's a felony or not?
	It's not a felony.
	In D.C.
	it's a misdemeanor with a $100 fine, okay?
	But we have to ask the question, why did he do it?
	Was it because there was going to be a Senate floor vote and the Democrats hadn't yet managed to get what they wanted in terms of Ukraine funding into that package, that CR package?
	Yeah, because he knew what he was doing.
	He's a former principal.
	This is shocking.
	I mean, a guy who's got like a double-digit IQ was a principal of a school for 12 years.
	He knows what a firearm, file alarm is, and he knows what happens when you pull that red handle.
	They needed time.
	But unlike the January 6th protesters, Who got 10, 12, 15 years in prison for interrupting official proceedings.
	He probably won't get anything, although it is weird what he did after he pulled that firearm.
	This was Kevin McCarthy this morning on Fox News.
	Cut 15.
	When the Capitol Police came to interview you, why would you lawyer up right away?
	Yeah.
	Why wouldn't you say, oh my gosh, I made a mistake here.
	Why would you let it go on?
	What do you know?
	Everybody knows you've been there long enough.
	You know how to get to the Capitol.
	So you think he knew this was all on purpose?
	If you know this individual, everybody knows.
	And if you've been a principal, you've had fire alarms and you've had children pull fire alarms.
	So is that where you go to the childish action?
	Do you want to see his phone to see if Hakeem Jeffries told him to do it?
	I do not believe Hakeem Jeffries would ever say to do that.
	You know what the problem with that cut is?
	The first part is fine, yeah?
	That if you did it by accident, there's no problem.
	Why would you lawyer up?
	That's weird.
	You just say, oh, sorry, made a mistake.
	But what's the last part of that?
	The last part of that is what?
	Oh, Hakeem Jeffries, the minority leader, he would never ask anybody to do that.
	Jeff, do you think it's absolutely unreasonable to think that the Democrats would try a scheme to delay the vote in the Senate because they needed more money?
	I think they would probably do that, especially because there's no consequences for them.
	So why would McCarthy say that?
	Because it's Kevin McCarthy.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	That's why.
	Let's listen to the man who wants to get rid of Kevin McCarthy, Matt Gaetz.
	Is he going to succeed?
	Is it just personal?
	Well, let's listen to him.
	Cut to...
	This isn't personal.
	Some people make policy disagreements personal because their own policy failures are so personally embarrassing to them.
	I hold no personal animus with any of my Republican colleagues.
	By the way, including my Republican colleague you're about to have on next, who said some pretty terse words for me.
	But at the end of the day, this is about spending.
	This is about the deal Kevin made in January.
	I do resent the fact that Kevin is, like, owned by lobbyists and special interests.
	That sounds personal.
	No, it's not.
	It's not personal.
	That's an attack on the guy's integrity.
	Well, it is an attack on the system that he has used to obtain the speakership.
	I am fighting for a different system, one based on spending guardrails, agreements on process.
	Kevin promised us 72 hours to read the bill.
	We didn't have it.
	He promised us $100 million wouldn't go onto the suspension agenda without the opportunity for amendments.
	Broke that deal, too, and he promised us we'd return to pre-COVID spending levels.
	There is almost no promise he hasn't violated.
	There's almost no promise he hasn't violated.
	I've put a poll up on my Twitter feed.
	I have to work out if we can do polls on Truth Social, and I'm asking you whose side you're on.
	Very simple.
	Are you on Kevin McCarthy's side, or are you on Matt Gaetz's side?
	And as of this morning, more than 96% of you were on Matt Gaetz's side.
	Hmm.
	I tend to agree.
	OK.
	Let's talk about an issue that weakens our side outside of Capitol Hill.
	A former guest of ours, who's been quite brave when it comes to COVID regulations, mandates and expulsions from work environments, texted me late on Saturday night with a story about U.S.
	military base is being taken over by the World Economic Forum.
	Yeah, did you hear me?
	U.S.
	military base is being taken over by the World Economic Forum.
	And I looked at who he used as his source, and I said, ah, I see the problem.
	Do we have the tweet with Anne's name on it, Eric?
	Can you put that tweet up on the screen?
	So, uh, this is... No, no, no, no.
	No, no, no.
	That's not the one.
	That's the... That's... That's... Well... Anne van der Steele.
	Did you get that tweet?
	Okay.
	Anne van der Steele posted a photograph, and I want to use it as an example of the aftershocks of QAnon, or how conspiracy theory is alive and well on our side, and how we have to stamp it out.
	Take a good hard look, America, Anne writes.
	The U.S.
	government abandoned Panama, the American crown jewel of Latin America.
	The United States' military compounds are either totally run down or worse, occupied by globalist psychopaths.
	Yeah, our bases are occupied by globalist psychopaths.
	We built the canal and gave it away.
	The first ship to transit the canal after we gave it to Panama was from China.
	And then she says, this is the old Southcom base, known as Fort Clayton.
	And today, the W.E.F.
	flag flies above it.
	Are we going to let the CCP and the WEF, the World Economic Forum, take it all?
	And there's a photograph from a distance of a flag.
	Eric, what are the three letters at the top of the flag?
	Again, it's not the highest quality image, but even I can tell just looking at it, that is not WEF.
	That looks to me like WFP.
	Well done!
	WFP. WF... well done! Not W E F but WFP and I looked up that logo because it doesn't look like you know what's his
	name um Who's Dr. Evil?
	It's not Karl Schwab.
	It's a wheat sheaf and a piece of corn.
	You know, like corn on the cob.
	Which is the emblem for the World Food Program!
	So guys, my response to her was a very simple one.
	Don't be a lunatic.
	Or don't do it just for clickbait.
	I know Anne VanderSteel.
	You got a lot of clicks.
	And even one of our former guests sent me what you did.
	And he believed you.
	But I don't.
	Because I'm not a cretin.
	Please guys, on our side, can we apply some due diligence?
	Can we not post photographs of the World Food Programme's flag flying over some base in Panama and say it's the World Economic Forum?
	Because you look like a clown and you make other people you trick look like clowns as well.
	And lastly, clickbait?
	Really?
	How much of a prostitute are you?
	That it's clickbait you need?
	Social media whoring?
	Don't do it.
	Because you heard the Democrats want to destroy America.
	Anyway, don't give them more ammunition because you're into clickbait or you're an idiot.
	I needed to get that off my chest.
	All right, we've got some amazing cuts from President Trump.
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	Can you believe that that Vandersteel tweet?
	They're not even trying.
	Like Eric said, how quick it was to just be able to look at it and see.
	He just enlarged the photograph!
	And it's a corncob, that famous World Economic Forum symbol, the corncob.
	Like if they were doing that, they would fly a flag anyway.
	Right, so we're taking over military base, and let's put our globalization flag above it.
	Do you want to post that or no?
	Um... Yeah!
	Yeah, yeah.
	Post it.
	But without the cuts at the beginning.
	Oh, okay.
	Just the Evandersteel thing.
	2A.
	Did she respond?
	Um, I don't see her responding.
	I've looked at, um... Did she maybe delete the tweet?
	I would.
	I photographed it, so tough.
	Tough noogies.
	But I can't believe one of our guests sent that to me.
	That's most unfortunate.
	She is a loony.
	I told him.
	I heard the name before, but I don't know what her shtick is.
	It's Kirk.
	Have you got the image of his new boat?
	Yep.
	Sweet.
	I'll do Liberty at the top.
	Say again?
	I'll do Leadership at the top.
	Leadership Institute, yep.
	Alrighty.
	Adjusting, yep.
	I gotta secure it.
	Those sweet fireplace tiles in the shot.
	I like those tiles a lot.
	Show me the image.
	The book?
	Yeah.
	Yup.
	Overlord.
	That's so cool.
	Oh, it has the number 8 on the spine there, okay.
	So it's the 8th.
	Wow.
	Right, I'll play the Merrick cuts with Kurt.
	Um...
	Come in with cut six.
	Okay, so come in with cut six?
	Yeah.
	All right, Trump.
	Mic's on and we've got him.
	Hey, buddy.
	How's it going?
	Good.
	So it's out today?
	It came out yesterday, but it's selling.
	Good.
	It's on a lot.
	Good, good, good.
	Do you have a team that does that for you or you just do your own social media?
	I do my own.
	All the publicists have as good a contact list as I do.
	They're all the people who send you all those emails every day that you guys throw away.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, people are not good.
	The email promotion stuff is like... People have lost the art of subtlety.
	It's all the same format.
	They do nothing different.
	Yeah, it's all the same format.
	There's like a couple of explosions in the subject line.
	It's like, guys, I'm going to delete it before I open it.
	They think they're slick.
	They put reply in the subject like it's a replied email.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Can I?
	I love the ones that have in big letters in the subject line.
	Can I rely on you?
	No.
	No, you can't.
	Nope.
	I'm so sick of those.
	Absolutely not!
	Bye-bye.
	Alright, coming in with cut six.
	Yes.
	And then leadership.
	Yeah.
	You're welcome.
	Bye.
	to death.
	You're not supposed to do that, Mr. President!
	You used a naughty word there, and the crowd loved it.
	And he did it in California!
	My good deed for the year is a friend of ours, a guest on the show, said, I need to meet the president.
	I need a photograph with him.
	Will you help me?
	And I reached out to Mara Lager.
	We made it happen.
	She got her photograph.
	She got to say hi to the president in California.
	Oh wow, it sounds like an amazing event.
	What else is amazing?
	When we have Americans who are fighting back The extremists, the transgender mutilators, the perverts who are denying reality.
	One of the bravest is that warrior princess, Riley Gaines.
	You've seen her on my show, on Newsmax, here on America First.
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	You don't get to compete with us.
	Well, now she has been embraced by the amazing Morton Blackwell and his Leadership Institute, and they've given Riley, a new home.
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	Okay, it's a big day.
	We had Mark Levin last week for a whole hour on his new book.
	Heavy reading, I've been reading it at the weekend.
	But when I need some, you know, light entertainment involving civil war in America, I reach to my buddy, Kurt Schlichter.
	Colonel K, I think you've got a new book out.
	Is it really, what is it, the 28th installment?
	It is the 8th!
	The 8th in your Jesse Turnbill adventure series.
	It's got a very cool cover.
	Look at that.
	Overlord!
	Tell us a little bit.
	Oh, first things first.
	Bill Kristol endorsed your series of books.
	What did he say about your series of books, Kurt?
	Because I wish I could have an endorsement like that on one of my tomes.
	Well, he called them, as I recall, but it's on the back of every book because I just want to reuse it.
	Appalling.
	Disgraceful that other conservatives like these books.
	And I couldn't think of higher praise from the warmonger who's never actually been to a war.
	If Bill Kristol hates me, you're going to love me.
	All right, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	I don't want to promote fake news.
	I've got it right here.
	I've got the direct endorsement of Bill Kristol.
	He's put it at the end of his book.
	It's the last endorsement.
	And he says, appalling books.
	So I think he's a squeaky voice.
	Appalling books.
	Sadly, sadly praised by mainstream conservatives.
	Kurt, sadly you are praised by mainstream.
	I guess that makes it hard to sell the book, right?
	Yeah, that doesn't sound quite so great now, to put it that way.
	Hey, it's not like I got Mitch McConnell scratching out praise for it.
	All right, so I've got a bone to pick with you before we talk about the contents of Overlord.
	Last time you were on my show to promote Inferno, I think you wrote that like a week ago.
	I think you pumped these out like every other week.
	You said, there might be a radio host, a national radio host with a cameo in it, a guy who likes guns.
	And I said, ooh, that's cool.
	And I asked you, where am I in the book?
	And you actually said, I don't know.
	Read it.
	You said I'm cameoing in this version as well.
	Are you going to deny in front of three and a half million people that you know where my cameo in your book is?
	I want the page and paragraph right now live.
	It's funny that you asked me that, because I was like, God, where did I put him?
	I know he's in there.
	I know he's in there.
	There are a whole bunch of people, a lot of cool people in there.
	Can you at least tell me, like, first act, second act, or third act?
	Where am I?
	I know where it is.
	It is in the first act.
	It is probably the second or third chapter, and I think you're gonna dig it.
	Okay, all right.
	For those who aren't familiar with the Kelly Turnbull series, tell us about the genesis.
	Tell us about why you began writing it and what the strategy... Oh, let's talk about, let's use War College language.
	What is the battle space in which it occurs, Coach Lichter?
	Well, if we're doing modern War College stuff, he, him.
	Look, I was an Andrew Breitbart guy.
	I was originally with Andrew, one of his dudes, and he was always, you know, he loved popular culture.
	And he said, we gotta go out and make good popular culture.
	Not just the message, you've got to make good stuff people actually want to read.
	And I was, you know, I like adventure novels.
	You get on an airplane in LA, you land in DC, and you've read a novel, and time flies as you fly.
	And I couldn't find ones I liked.
	They were all formulaic.
	They avoided politics.
	They didn't really speak to me.
	And a lot of them have a lot of feelings in them, Dr. G. What are these feelings you speak of, Colonel K?
	Exactly!
	A lot of things like, I don't get along well with my dad!
	You know, I have a teenage daughter.
	Let's explore that relationship.
	Okay, none of that happens in my books.
	My book is designed to be like the London Calling double album by The Clash.
	All good.
	Starts out London Calling, ends up trained in vain.
	No filler.
	It's either funny or action or an interesting observation about how the world would be if things changed just a little.
	All good parts.
	That's my commitment to the reader.
	Clearly you have fun writing them because you're like on number eight.
	Who is, tell us a little bit about Kelly Turnbill.
	Is he in his spare time an attorney based out of California?
	We just want to know.
	Did he fight in the LA riots?
	Did he serve in Bosnia?
	I'm just curious.
	No, he was special forces.
	As you know, I was unspecial forces.
	Uh, Special Forces is a sledgehammer.
	I would say a scalpel.
	We are the sledgehammer.
	Now, I love my Special Forces friends, and they talk a good game about how tough they are, and they say, that's great, but as a deputy or an acting brigade commander, I had an artillery battalion.
	Yeah, and let's just be clear.
	We love our Special Forces brothers, but wars are won by artillery.
	Can we be clear here?
	Well, artillery is the primary, is the queen of battle, primary killing system.
	Yes, as unfortunately Ukraine is reiterating, Ukraine is proving a lot of things that people wish, kind of wished away are still true.
	That's a whole different subject and not as much fun as Overlord is.
	All right, all right.
	We're going to dig a little bit deeper, but first things first, guys.
	It's out today.
	I don't know.
	Did I get a copy?
	I don't know.
	I'll have to check my library.
	It's Overlord.
	It is endorsed by Bill Kristol because mainstream conservatives like it.
	He hates it.
	That's all you need to know.
	Get yours today.
	Follow this man.
	Read his articles.
	SeniorColumnist at townhall.com.
	Follow him at Kurt Schlichter.
	He's got a pretty good Twitter game.
	We will continue, but we might broaden the aperture and talk about some other stuff as well.
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	♪♪ ♪♪
	♪♪ Mic's up.
	So, how long ago did Mic's up?
	How long ago did Inferno come out?
	It's been like a year, right?
	Yes, it was almost exactly a year ago.
	And when did you publish the first one?
	How long ago?
	2016, September 2016.
	Wow, so you've been cranking.
	One a year, and then I do my regular books.
	I think I may start a different, and this is for your listeners, I may do a conservative dystopian novel.
	Society falls apart.
	I'm so sick of watching these liberal, sensitive, dystopian things like The Last of Us.
	You know, all they're doing is sit around talking about their gender identities.
	Right.
	There will be none of that!
	Because it will be a real dystopia clarifying.
	So I need to know, I'm curious, what is your writing schedule?
	Do you carve out a certain time every day, or what's your system?
	You know, I do something that other people do not do.
	I think about my writing.
	And I usually have much of what I'm going to write written in my head before I ever start touching keyboards.
	Okay, but when do you actually do the keyboard?
	A lot of it's weekends.
	Weekends.
	A lot of it's a little bit in the evening.
	And I've still got work around, you know, 4,500 words of town halls.
	You just fit in the time.
	I mean, I think I'm going to be able to do my town hall on, uh, are we having a new draft?
	Which will come out Thursday.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	All right.
	Uh, come in with, um, cut five.
	Come in with five and then you'll tee up.
	I'll tee up Millie.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	The other truck guy.
	I mean, it's true what they say.
	The hardest part of writing a novel is just finishing it, right?
	No, really.
	It's just doing it.
	The hardest part is doing it.
	So I, you know, I bitch and moan about writing.
	I feel like there's this thing hanging over my head and Katie always kicks me because the second I sit down to write it, about 20 minutes in, I'll say to her, I'll text her, this is really fun.
	I forgot how much fun it is.
	And I'll do that every time.
	Like for three weeks, I won't write it.
	Then I'll sit down and say, Ooh, this is fun.
	It's like, I mean, it's just like moments of writer's block that suddenly come up.
	I'm like, I have no idea.
	I never get writer's block.
	Kelly Turnbull writes himself.
	I just think, what would be the coolest possible thing that would happen if it smoked?
	Is he still carrying a Wilson .45?
	Oh yes.
	He varies.
	He's got a Wilson Beretta.
	And he's got the, and he gets a wedding gun.
	Because, of course, in the red you give people wedding guns.
	It's a Wilson SIG 365.
	I took my guys, at least two of them, to the gun show this weekend.
	Nice!
	Yes!
	Great.
	And, of course, Eric came back wanting to buy the gold M9 that he saw.
	It's called my name, man.
	Bling, bling, bling.
	Eric the bling.
	I went shooting with Arena a week or so ago, and I gotta tell you, if you want to be safe, stand in front of the target.
	I went to a pistol course, a high-performance pistol course, with two ATF guys.
	I didn't want to be on the range.
	They didn't know what came out of the barrel.
	The ATF guys didn't know.
	It was scary.
	Oh, it's like five.
	Together we will take on the ultra left wing liars, losers, creeps, perverts and freaks
	who are devouring the future of this state like a swarm of locusts.
	Thank you.
	And we'll stand up to crazy Nancy Pelosi who ruined San Francisco.
	How's her husband doing, by the way?
	Anybody know?
	And she's against building a wall at our border even though she has a wall around her house,
	which obviously didn't do a very good job.
	You know.
	That was the president in California.
	I think I heard Kurt Schlichter in the front row there, screaming loud.
	He loved the line, the freaks and the perverts, the left-wing perverts.
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	We are celebrating the 8th Yes, that lovely number eight in the Kelly Turnbull series.
	A beautiful cover art.
	It is Overlord.
	It's just a fun read and you may recognize some of the characters in it.
	Get it today.
	Follow him at Kurt Schlichter.
	Read him every Thursday at townhall.com.
	Talking of left-wing perverts and freaks, I'm sure you saw the exit ceremony for that fat disgrace to the US Army, Colonel Milley.
	Colonel, he should be busted down to a PFC.
	General Milley at the weekend with Biden, with the cackler in the front row.
	He had this to say.
	It's the first time I've ever heard him angry.
	I want to play this cut to you from the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
	To a country We don't take an oath to a tribe.
	We don't take an oath to a religion.
	We don't take an oath to a king, or a queen, or to a tyrant, or a dictator.
	And we don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator.
	Ooh, tough words from Millie.
	He didn't take an oath to a tribe, which is weird because he seems to be a permanent life member of the critical race theory and white anger tribe.
	Well, he's an absolute disgrace.
	Part of the responsibility for the 13 deaths of U.S.
	service members in Kabul is right at his tubby feet.
	He's the worst chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in history.
	He can't be gone soon enough.
	And, you know, I can't remain FCC compliant and fully describe this piece of garbage.
	I mean, he's just trash.
	But it's not just him, he's not just an outlier, and it kind of, I'm trying to tie it into the book because of the situation that is created in America.
	We also have the most powerful man in the Department of Justice, Merrick Garland, who gave this very peculiar long, long interview where he said the following, cut nine, Merrick Garland.
	The investigation itself has determined the timing.
	Yes, exactly right.
	Your critics say that it's time to ruin Mr. Trump's chances in the election.
	Well, that's absolutely not true.
	Justice Department prosecutors are non-partisan.
	They don't allow partisan considerations to play any role in their determinations.
	You are a practicing attorney, a very successful one.
	Kurt Schlichter, your response to the DOJ and our prosecutors are completely neutral and unpartisan.
	I'm torn between wondering whether Merrick Garland is stupid or a liar, or he thinks that we're stupid.
	I mean, what do you say?
	These guys have done more damage to our institutions, Dr. Gorka.
	The great Iowa Hawk quote about taking institutions, gutting them, and wearing their skin like a skin suit and walking around demanding respect.
	That's what's happening, but more and more people are losing the respect they had.
	See, they survive on residual respect for institutions.
	Yes.
	On people who haven't yet realized This isn't the FBI of Efrem Zimbalist Jr.
	Right.
	Okay?
	This is a bunch of bloated, kneeling clowns who frame political opponents.
	And, Kurt, you're being crazy.
	No, no.
	One was, like, actually perjured himself on a declaration.
	Yeah.
	That's framing somebody.
	I'm not making this up!
	Any more than I'm just taking a fire alarm for a door handle!
	We're trying to make that transition to understand why you're writing these books.
	We're going to ask you next what the political message, if there is at all, the latest one, you've got to get it, is Overlord.
	We're talking to the author Kurt Schlichter coming to you live from the reliefactor.com studio.
	It's real.
	It works.
	Oh no!
	I'm going to talk about Patriot Mobile.
	Why?
	Because it's the only Christian conservative cell phone company in America.
	It's the one I use.
	All the big cell phone companies, well, they're like Mark Milley.
	They're woke, they're left wing, and they hate America.
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	That's ridiculous.
	9-7-2-7-2-8-7-4-6-8 PatronMobile.com slash Gawker What a bummer!
	I was going to ask him one more question.
	Alright, let's get you back later in the week.
	Okay, I'm sorry buddy.
	Okay!
	Alright, send me... Oh, I've got the image.
	I'm sending you the book, so I'll get you that.
	Okay, I've got the image, I've got the cover.
	We'll promote it on social media as well.
	I appreciate it, thank you.
	I'm sending it to my guy right now.
	We conservatives got a log roll.
	And where should they order it?
	Amazon.
	Amazon?
	Okay.
	Because I use their on-demand publishing system, which completely disambiguates the freaking publishing houses.
	I don't have to ask people's permission to publish my books my way.
	When it's ready and you have the cover art, how long does it take for it to be ready to buy on Amazon?
	When I get the cover art from my guy, I post it, I format the Word document and upload it.
	It takes me two, three hours tops.
	That's for everything.
	And then within about six hours it starts coming online.
	That's crazy.
	It's Andrew Breitbart's dream come true.
	Yeah, superb.
	Alright, sorry buddy.
	Thanks a lot.
	It's okay.
	Oh man, I'm just grateful to be here.
	Alright, good stuff.
	Keep me posted.
	Bye bye.
	Adios.
	At the courthouse when he left?
	I can try again.
	I saw him speak at like lunchtime.
	Do you want me to try to find that?
	Just look on social media if there's something good we can use in E, but it's got to be super short.
	Mic's on or off?
	Off.
	Thanks, all.
	Bye-bye.
	Bye.
	, I'm going to go ahead and close this.
	Bye.
	.
	Constitution, America first.
	It gets worse.
	Here's the second cut from the Merrick Garland interview where this can't be for real.
	He's got to be faking it.
	This is the Attorney General of the United States who breaks down and almost starts to cry.
	Cut eight.
	The American people must protect each other.
	They must ensure that they treat each other with civility and kindness, listen to opposing views, argue as vociferously as they want, but refrain from violence and threats of violence.
	That's the only way this democracy will survive.
	Civility!
	We must listen to each other and refrain from threats of violence.
	I remember going to work in the White House the day after the inauguration.
	It was Saturday, January the 21st.
	And when I tried to leave the White House, I couldn't.
	Why?
	Because thousands of people had literally surrounded the whole building, thanks to the Mayor of D.C., who allowed them to do so, and were screaming for the blood of the President.
	One of them was the singer Madonna, who said in front of the assembled horde, I have dreamt many times of blowing up that building.
	Mmm, I wonder if Merrick Garland thinks that's the type of civility and the refrain from violent language that we should have in America.
	How do we take the culture back?
	Well, let's ask a culture warrior.
	A man who is producing content with which we can save The Nation and the Civilization.
	He's a good friend of the show.
	You might recognize him in a little show to do with some Greek superhero called Hercules.
	Sam Sorbo can't join us, but his lesser half, Kevin, is with us.
	Kevin Sorbo, welcome back to America First!
	Thank you very, very much.
	You know what?
	You see a clip like that, it does make me laugh because they're the ones who always seem to be the ones that they want love and they want peace and they want civility when the reality is they're the ones who are very angry.
	I don't think BLM and Antifa are anywhere near being friendly groups.
	I know they're just an idea to President Biden, but the insanity of what's going on in our
	country is amazing.
	And they show their hypocrisy again there, but they also show it in sanctuary cities
	like New York City, where they're complaining about these bus loads that Governor Abbott
	is sending up there, when in reality there's 10,000 a day coming over the border into Texas.
	So once again, they're just showing the craziness.
	They are the snake that keeps eating their own tail.
	We're talking to Kevin Sobo.
	KevinSorbo.net.
	Follow him at KSorbs.
	S-O-R-B-S.
	Actor, director, with a new project that will be out in a few weeks' time with his lovely lady, his muse, Sam, and a certain guy who used to work for the post office.
	You may recognize him from Cheers.
	There he is, the miracle in East Texas, Mr. Ratzenberger.
	Tell us about your new movie, Kevin, and how people can see it when it comes out.
	Well, they can go to SorboStudios.com.
	So go to SorboStudios.com.
	You can see the trailer for it right now.
	It's a wonderful PG-rated family movie.
	It's about the largest oil fund in the history of the world.
	John Ratzenberger and I directed it as well.
	It's a real story.
	True story.
	It's about these two guys, these two flim flam men, would go through Oklahoma and Texas, right in the heart of the Depression in 1930.
	They would woo widows out of their money on fake oil wells, sell 500% of the shares, declare a dry hole, go to the next city.
	They get to Kilgore, Texas, they strike oil, largest oil find In the history of the world.
	And of course, they end up getting to prison while they're getting while they're in court.
	Every widow they ripped off shows up to see them hang.
	But it's a wonderful movie.
	It's one it's 110 film festivals, everything from best romantic comedy, the judges favorite audience favorites.
	And it's just a wonderful movie.
	Please support this movie.
	People stop me all the time and say, make more movies like God's Not Dead and What If and Let There Be Light.
	Well, I did.
	And this is yet another one.
	But we need we need to fill up those theaters and we'll get more time because I don't have a hundred million dollar advertising like they do for the wonderful movies Disney puts out.
	So we got to compete against them because, you know, there's a culture war going on.
	Oh, yes, indeed.
	It's going to be released October 29th, 750 theaters.
	But you've got to book right now so we can send a message across the nation.
	SorboStudios.com.
	That's SorboStudios.com.
	You mentioned all the other films that you've made recently that had a certain message, a certain theme.
	Tell us about why this story, because this doesn't obviously fit into that pattern.
	Well, it is.
	It actually won in one best faith based movie at one of them.
	There's there's a mixture for everybody in this thing, because it is a movie about hope.
	It's a movie about love, laughter, redemption, second chances, all these things that movies that Hollywood used to do.
	You know, that's I mean, they don't do those things anymore.
	They got this whole woke culture going on.
	Disney's looking over a billion dollar losses right now.
	I'm sure it's going to make their stockholders very happy.
	But, you know, this is the movies that I love, true movies.
	And I got to tell you, interesting story about this.
	Ten years later, this oil—they were shipping it during World War II to get over to the Allies over in Europe.
	People have no idea that German subs were in the Gulf of Mexico, and they were taking down a lot of these oil tankers.
	They built something called the Inch, and it's a pipeline all the way up to the East Coast up there in Jersey.
	And that oil finally got over to the Allies, and Winston Churchill said that the miracle that Kilgore oil was the oil that helped save American and European citizens from the capture of Germany.
	Incredible.
	Slide over, tell us, show us the poster again.
	It's right behind him.
	It is The Miracle of East Texas.
	I just want to know, I don't know if I could do this, what kind of trouble I'd get in if I had to direct my wife in a movie.
	That will make for interesting dinner conversations.
	SorboStudios.com.
	That's S-O-R-B-O, Sorbo Studio.
	Ten seconds, quickly.
	One more thing.
	So Lugas is in it too.
	My book is out right now.
	The Test of Lime at Brave Books.
	Go to bravebooks.com.
	Bravebooks.com.
	It's a wonderful, wonderful movie.
	Same company that Kirk Cameron worked with and got attacked last year for reading in the library.
	So check it out.
	Bravebooks.com.
	I love it.
	Bravebooks.com.
	That's amazing.
	Luke Gossett Jr.
	Haven't seen him in a while.
	Follow him at KSorbs.
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	The person who doesn't know when to quit, and so does great damage to their party and their country.
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	We've got 90 seconds.
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	I'll get it done.
	Thank you, Dr. G. Thank you.
	You were polling earlier today that, you know, Getz or McCarthy.
	McCarthy is just really at the bottom there.
	I don't want to be a special pleader for him, but I want to say this.
	I didn't like McCarthy as a choice for Speaker at first, but he's impressed me.
	It's refreshing the way he takes on the critics and the opposition in a very calm manner.
	He's not Newt Gingrich, but he's certainly not Paul Ryan O'Ryan or Crybaby Bonior, OK?
	But are we satisfied with what he did this weekend?
	Well, could Matt Gaetz do any better?
	And why did these guys take a month off if they knew they had to get these 12 bills pushed through?
	Why did they take a complete month off?
	They're sleeping on the job.
	Everybody.
	Not just McCarthy.
	So, it's everybody's fault that this thing is not getting done.
	And Gaetz, I don't think you could do any better than McCarthy.
	I love you, Gaetz.
	I do.
	I like his passion.
	And I like his stance on many things, but I just don't think he could do any better than McCarthy.
	The question is, can we be satisfied with business as usual?
	And I think those who say, well, you can't do anything else, well, let's have a government shutdown.
	Let's see who blinks first.
	Let's have a five, six, seven month government shutdown and see what the Democrats do then.
	It's time to play hardball after what they've done to us for 50, 60 years.
	Thank you, Ray.
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	you you
	you again we were misled that there were supposedly protests
	and then something sprang out of that and assault sprang out of that
	And that was easily ascertained that that was not the fact.
	And the American people could have known that within days.
	And they didn't know that.
	With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans.
	Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans?
	What difference at this point does it make?
	It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator.
	I don't think most of you listening to this show would have expected us to open the Manhood Hour with that truly infamous clip, but it has great relevance for our guest today.
	That, of course, was the former Secretary of State who In reaction to the 9-11, the anniversary attack on our compound in Benghazi, Libya, in which four Americans died, one of them allegedly her friend, Ambassador Chris Stevens, then-Officer Sean Smith of the Information Service, and two CIA contractors, Glenn Doherty and Tyrone Woods, that American, member of the Obama Cabinet, said, What difference does it make?
	Well, I think it made a lot of difference to the loved ones of those four men, and also to those who tried to save them.
	One man who saved many lives that night, and I'm honored to know him personally, to actually have been on the gun range with him.
	I have still a lot to learn from him.
	Chris Tanto-Piranto, welcome to the Manhood Hour.
	Hi, my friend.
	Thank you for having me again.
	And you're right, we gotta go shoot again.
	Yes!
	Maybe this SHOT Show.
	We'll get it done.
	SHOT Show is just, you know, where you play with the new toys.
	But I need to learn from you on the range.
	You do have your own company, Battle Line Tactical Training.
	We can talk about that later.
	Before we dive into the fun questions, I ask all of my guests on the Manhood Hour, for those who aren't familiar with your story, before Benghazi, tell us a little bit about who Chris Parenteau is and how you ended up in Libya.
	Honestly, I guess just lucky, I guess.
	I don't know what else to say.
	Well, I served in the Army.
	I did a few tours in the active duty service with the 2nd Ranger Battalion, 7th and 5th Ranger Regiment.
	I spent some time with 5th Battalion, 19th Special Forces Group.
	And then actually due to a sickness and illness, a lot of people don't know this, I have a, I did have a severe case of Crohn's disease.
	I've got it in remission.
	I was actually medically discharged from the military and you know, the Lord works in mysterious ways.
	Who knew, you know, that I thought my career was over and I thought I was never going to be able to see combat and serve in the global war on terror.
	I transitioned to a company called Blackwater Securities.
	I'm sure many in your audience know who that is.
	And that's where I started contracting.
	And the rest is history.
	I served in Iraq, Afghanistan.
	I fought pirates off the coast of Somalia after Captain Phillips got attacked.
	I spent time sneaking around Egypt and then, of course, Libya and Yemen.
	So I have to say, after a time in my life where I thought everything was ending, when I was very, very sick and I was very ill from Crohn's disease, it actually went the opposite direction.
	And I spent a lot of my life overseas in the Middle East and North Africa.
	Well, that says a lot about you.
	I've known people, I've had friends of family who've had Crohn's disease.
	That is a tough, tough thing to suffer from.
	The fact that you're in combat in some of the dodgiest parts of the world whilst you're fighting that as well is a testament to your resilience.
	Before we dive in, will you just tell us for those who, because this is the 9-11 that we forget, right?
	This is, you know, this is the one we don't talk enough about.
	There is, of course, that incredible book and movie that, you know, has somebody playing you in it.
	It's called 13 Hours, the inside account of what really happened at Benghazi, with you, the annex security team and also guys who got to see the movie.
	It's tough, it's very tough, but I don't know, is it, from your perspective, as one of the people portrayed in the movie, is it a good movie?
	It's a great representation for those that don't know.
	And you can actually go on YouTube and you'll see us.
	So see B-roll stuff.
	We're actually on set in Malta.
	That's Malta there.
	The airport was in Morocco.
	We got to be on set for quite a bit of it.
	We got to be at Bay Studios there and Michael Bay's headquarters in California, helping to write the script with a tremendous script writer by the name of Chuck Hogan.
	For those that don't know him, search him out.
	He's He's a, he's a all-star in his own right, in his genre.
	We were at a big part of it and Pablo Schreiber and I actually, Pablo, he's a big guy.
	I'm not that big guy.
	For those that have seen me, I'm 5'9".
	This is the guy that played you, played Tantor, right?
	Yeah, Pablo Schreiber.
	He is a huge individual.
	I am not.
	I am very, I'm a ranger.
	I got to run.
	I'm 5'9", 160 pounds.
	You're harder to hit, right?
	Yeah, I am harder to hit.
	I'm not that big of a target.
	But him and I became very, very good friends.
	I still consider us friends, even though, you know, he's in a different genre than I definitely am.
	He's in Hollywood.
	I'm in I'm into the firearm side of the house.
	So we don't talk as much as we used to.
	But I still do consider him a friend because they did and him and Mr. Krasinski and Dave Denman and the rest of the actors, they did take it very seriously and they did try to get to know us just personally.
	And Pablo and I did.
	I still consider him a friend and they did an excellent job tactically just doing the movements.
	And if there was a tactical movement wrong, a hand placement wrong, Michael Bay would reshoot the scene.
	It was amazing.
	So my views on Hollywood changed a little bit from being on set in the movie because they did.
	They didn't care about the politics and say, guys, we want to get what happened here and we want to get it accurate.
	And even James Patchdale, who played Tyrone, did an excellent job playing Tyrone Woods.
	They did an excellent job.
	So I was I was impressed.
	And honestly, it was a great experience.
	Just even being on a movie set and watching that the first time when the mortars hit.
	I tell you what, it made me cry.
	I did.
	I saw it in the studios and where they're doing the sizzle reel.
	And I because I remember watching the mortar hit for real because I was shooting over Tyrone's head when it did hit.
	I saw the mortars hit him.
	And so it did bring a lot Guys, we might have to add that to our movie review list.
	It's not a classic from the 80s, but I think, Eric, let's put 13 hours.
	Guys, watch the movie, read the book.
	Before we dive in, what is the most important thing that you think average Americans, average patriots don't know about, you know, your battle, the Battle of Benghazi?
	We know they lied about it.
	It wasn't because of some stupid video on YouTube.
	We know what they peddled on the Sunday morning afterwards, you know, Ambassador Rice and everybody else were just lies, lies, lies.
	What Hillary said on the floor of the Congress were lies.
	What would you, as somebody who fought the Battle of Benghazi, what would you like Americans to know about that day?
	More than anything, you know, the politics, like you said, they've been beaten to death.
	I think everybody knows that.
	The heroism and adversity, you know, that's one of the things that Benghazi exemplified to me was just adversity, adversity after adversity and us being able to overcome them, not myself as just by myself, because who knows if I would have been able to just by myself.
	But I had a tremendous team and Oz and Tig and Ron and Dave Boone, Benton and Jack Silva.
	And we were able to handle that adversity over and over and over again, and honestly see a silver lining.
	Every time something bad would happen, especially between 1 and 3 in the morning when we realized no American troops were coming to help us, and not giving up and dealing with that adversity and saying, you know what?
	So what?
	We got this.
	We can handle this.
	Let's take it.
	Let's do step by step, and we're going to be able to win this fight, and we'll figure to get our way out of here.
	We never looked at it as a negative.
	Every time we hit an adversity, a piece of adversity or an obstacle that night, we looked at it as an opportunity to overcome it.
	And that is something that people are losing their gods.
	Just give us the raw figures.
	How many of you good guys were there and how many bad guys?
	How many jihadists were there attacking the annex?
	Six of us and between the annex and the consulate, we've had reports anywhere between 100 to 400.
	To say, people have asked, how many did we kill?
	I don't know.
	I really don't keep those stats.
	But the reports after, especially from our assets in Libya, just said the hospitals were full of terrorists after each firefight that they came and hit us.
	We got into five different firefights that night.
	And they came with heavy weapons, right?
	We're talking about RPGs, we're talking about squad machine guns, right?
	Yes, yes.
	PKMs, which are the Eastern Block M60s, is what they are.
	So, PKMs, there was a Diska involved, there was RPGs, plenty of RPGs.
	Yeah, you don't bring these things to protest.
	Yeah, this wasn't a protest that suddenly somebody found, you know, a Soviet-era belt-fed machine gun in their pocket.
	Correct.
	It was a coordinated attack.
	And for those that have fought in the global war on terror, sir, you know, all of us, we have a respect on the fighting capabilities of the terrorists because really they do learn from us.
	And it was Al-Qaeda and the Maghreb and Assad Sharia, which later became ISIS.
	And they coordinated it very well.
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	Chris, I feel a bit weird asking you our standard opening question for the Manhood Hour, because You're a warrior.
	You're actually a real, genuine warrior.
	You know, killing jihadis is what you do before breakfast.
	So this is a little bit of a strange question for you.
	How bad is the assault?
	On masculinity in general in our society.
	I mean, you're not out there on the college campuses like Turning Point USA.
	You aren't being screamed at by blue-haired lunatics.
	But I'm sure you've got a sense of what's happening in the broader society outside of the tier one operators and the people that you hang out with.
	How bad is it, do you think, in America, Chris?
	Well, there's a reason why I moved out of the city and live in small town rural America because There really isn't an attack on toxic masculinity.
	And I think that's a silly word for it.
	It's not toxic at all.
	It's just being a man.
	It's being present.
	It's being a father.
	It's protecting your loved ones.
	I don't know why that's a bad thing, in fact.
	So I do think in the cities it is.
	I think there's a lot of insecurity.
	And insecurity has led to, well, you know what?
	These alpha males, I guess is what they call us.
	That try hard, that work hard, that do protect their family, that don't give up, that don't quit, that don't complain.
	I was never raised to complain about anything.
	I was never to make an excuse.
	We're in a society now that that's okay.
	It's not our fault.
	If something goes wrong, it's somebody else's fault.
	If I don't make it, it was because of my last name or the color of my skin.
	And I was never raised like that.
	And my grandfather, Joaquin Garcia, who was a picker from Mexico, my grandmother Rose Garcia, We had every excuse in the world that they could have done that, and they never, ever, in the household, I never saw them complain.
	I was always, work hard, never quit, don't give up.
	And it's easier to pass the buck and say it's somebody else's fault, which I think is why, which I think that's why there's an attack on toxic masculinity, on masculines, on males, because Growing up and watching the role models that I had, the mentors, including my grandmothers, you know, she's not a man, but she's tougher than nails.
	Rose Garcia and my mother, Rita Garcia.
	We weren't allowed to make excuses.
	It was always, hey, did you work hard enough?
	Did you do enough to accomplish this task?
	It was never somebody else's fault.
	And I know from the men, Joaquin Garcia, my father, Jim Pirano, who is very, very poor in West Texas, who grew up with literally nothing as well.
	We weren't allowed to blame somebody else.
	If it was something that didn't happen, it was our fault because we didn't work hard enough.
	But in today's society now, it's easier to be the victim.
	In fact, people make a lot of money by playing the victim in our society.
	Just turn the TV on and watch the talk shows.
	And that, to me, is why there's an attack on men.
	Because growing up, at least when I was in the 70s and 80s, There was no excuses.
	Don't make an excuse, son.
	Go work hard.
	Don't make an excuse.
	You can do it, but you're just going to have to put a little extra effort in to put that elbow grease into it.
	And that's something that in today's world, honestly, at least in the bigger cities where I lived, I think it's more prevalent.
	You're going to see that.
	It's easier to say now.
	Don't worry about it.
	It's his fault.
	Let's blame somebody else instead of, hey, excuse my language, but bust your ass and work harder and you'll be able to accomplish that.
	Now you've said that, you know, as part of what we're witnessing, you've moved from, you know, the metropolis to the countryside.
	Do you think that's going to be what happens in America?
	That people are going to say, okay, if You know, we're having rioting every night and looting in San Francisco.
	If, you know, Massachusetts thinks I'm toxic, I'm just going to go to South Dakota.
	Do you think we're just going to segregate ourselves, Chris?
	I think, well, those that are able to will move.
	I think those that, like myself, Move because of that reason.
	I just I wanted to get back to where I'm around farmers and hard workers and people that get up in the morning and whether it's rain, snow, sleet, whatever, they're out there in the farm plowing the fields because that's what I grew up around.
	I think those that can will, but I think the majority population can't do that, whether it's because of funds, whether it's because they can't sell their houses, whether it's because of work.
	I know a lot of work is via, you know, you can do it via satellite now, but I think a lot of companies are realizing that's not successful either.
	We got to bring people back in the office so we can hold them accountable a little bit.
	So and also it is a change.
	I think a lot of people want to do that.
	And then they get out in rural America and you don't have your Starbucks and you don't have your targets and you don't have your your big stores.
	And it's a little bit of a culture shock.
	You don't have your five star restaurants.
	And I think a lot of people realize maybe this isn't really where I want to be.
	But for me, it is.
	I like being in a place where the law enforcement, if they don't recognize your car, they're going to stop you and ask you why you're there.
	I grew up with that.
	So it doesn't bother me.
	And I don't think that's harassment.
	That's just being responsible.
	And that's protecting your community.
	And I think a lot of people in the city, they They won't, they're not used to that.
	So I think there'll be some trying, but I don't think it's going to happen in mass.
	It's not going to happen in a mass fluctuation of people leaving the city because it's, it's real life is different.
	And it's, it's not always for everybody.
	Let's just put it that way.
	Yeah.
	The question is what's going to happen in those big cities.
	You're absolutely right.
	There are some people who simply do not have the choice.
	They cannot move.
	Are they going to be the catalysts that push back on this insanity?
	I think the transgender movement personally is going to be the big kind of red-pilling moment for a lot of people who aren't political and they say, this doesn't make sense, we've got to push back on it.
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	My favorite question of all to our guests.
	In your conceptualization, your internalization of what it means to be a real man, Chris, who was the most formative influence?
	Yeah, I wish I could give you some smart answer or some crazy out of it.
	But honestly, mine is just typical.
	It was it was my parents.
	It was my mother.
	It was my father, my grandmother, my grandfather.
	I talked about a little bit earlier, but Looking back now and seeing that how I was able to overcome adversity and obstacles throughout my life, a divorce, a really bad time going through basic training.
	That's terrible.
	You know, never, you never, when you go through basic training, you hear about those horror stories as you're getting hazed of, of getting that Dear John letter.
	And that, that was hard in itself going through that, why I'm trying to get through a basic training before being in the nineties.
	But I wouldn't have been able to handle all that adversity if I didn't have that solid Father figure and mother figure and having a traditional family present that I could lean on but also would push me.
	And like I said, would tell me, hey, don't quit, son.
	Just keep going forward.
	Just keep working hard.
	You're going to be okay.
	Give us some of the adjectives.
	Give us some of the descriptors when you think of your dad, your grandfather.
	What are the descriptor words that make you think, yeah, that's what I want to be.
	That would make me a man.
	Humble.
	They both were very humble.
	My grandfather especially.
	Hardworking.
	Grandfather was a picker and I saw him from being a picker in the farm to actually owning his own farm.
	So hardworking, courageous, very protective, protective of the family, and loved their children.
	And love their love, their love, their wives.
	That's why I think my divorce during basic was so hard as I'd never saw.
	I expected when you're married, you stay together forever because that's what I saw with my family.
	So that was in a nutshell.
	And I think I think that's should be what the stereotypical answer should be.
	For looking back on a father and a grandfather, and looking back on the family, sadly, that's not anymore.
	But for me, I'm giving you a stereotypical answer, but that's the God-honest truth, and that has helped me get through the rest of the things in my life.
	I don't think we should use the word stereotypical.
	You know, that's what it should be, sadly, it's not.
	And what is it, 70% of black Americans grow up in homes without their fathers?
	You know, for them, of course, it would be, you know, the exception to the rule.
	But you're the second person who said this.
	And I, for me, I had a very close relationship with my parents.
	You know, they loved me.
	It was clear to me.
	Dad was, you know, the role model I had to live up to.
	But spending the weekends, as I often did with my grandfather, was also seminal.
	And you're the second person to say, you know, the role of the grandfather can be really important for a young boy or young man.
	Correct?
	Yes, sir.
	It can definitely be, especially those that grandfathers are continually still working and dealing with people on a daily basis, not just retired citizens.
	That's a bad thing.
	I want to retire and just sit around the house too eventually, but he wasn't like that.
	And being Hispanic, and then also when I saw him go in the community and he was one of the most well-respected people within the community of Delta, Colorado.
	Again, that's why whenever I see anything about race or discrimination, I kind of shrugged my shoulders at it because I never saw that.
	In fact, that didn't even play anything in my life growing up because we weren't Mexican and it was like, holy crap, this is Joaquin Garcia.
	He's one of the most well-respected people in the community.
	And to me, that's that was important because I think you can't grow up thinking the world is discriminating against you because your last name or the color of your skin.
	And I actually saw the opposite.
	So I never.
	I never was able to use that as an excuse.
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	What would you put in a curriculum for young boys, like guys 8, 10, 12 years old?
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	Same as what I had.
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	You know, we're all on different paths, and it really didn't come to fruition until even later on in the Army, but having that base of kicking and screaming and going to church, we have a blueprint.
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	I grew up learning the Constitution.
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	It's there.
	It's just—I don't know if teachers are not teaching it or they're not putting a lot of emphasis in it, but it's there.
	We don't need to change anything.
	I think we just need to—as a father myself, my kids do go to a Christian school, so they're getting teaching.
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	Luckily for us, we're able to afford that.
	I can do that.
	And then also they do know my background and far as the Constitution and firearms in the military.
	So they're getting that whether they like it or not.
	They're getting the military background and that adds discipline.
	You know, people say, well, what can we do differently?
	Nothing.
	Just go back to what we were doing before.
	If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
	And it wasn't broke then.
	But it's just, again, it's harder for people to do that because those sort of values don't allow you to make excuses if you make a mistake or you fail at something.
	And failing is a huge, huge teaching point.
	I failed a lot.
	I'm not a failure, though, because I always picked myself up and kept going.
	And that was for my grandfather and my father, watching them always picking themselves up.
	And my grandmother and my mother telling me, don't you ever quit.
	It's there.
	It's simple.
	It's just, I think, looking for an easy way out to not do the hard stuff.
	It's funny.
	I know she was trying to do a kind of social media poll, I guess, but a friend of mine on the weekend tweeted out, what does it mean to be a good person?
	Or what does it mean to be a Christian?
	And I just said, really easy.
	Read the Bible.
	Especially the New Testament, and then listen to what, you know, your soul tells you.
	Because if you read the Bible, if you read the New Testament, guess what?
	You will know what's good and what isn't good, and you need to listen.
	You can call it Jiminy Cricket, you can call it whatever you want, but you need to listen to that voice.
	You mentioned the addition of discipline and those military I've got to ask you, because you're in touch with all of your old buddies, how worried are you when you look at the likes of Mark Milley, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the drag queen recruiter in the Navy, the pronouns that they are now putting on citations?
	How worried are you about this assault on masculinity inside America's military, Chris?
	Well, it makes it weaker.
	I think we all agree that the military is weaker now than it was when I was in it.
	But you have to look back, too.
	World War II, the greatest generation, those guys were a lot stronger than my generation.
	Now, I hope it doesn't get to where we're getting weaker every generation.
	I don't want to see that.
	So there is a concern.
	But it also lies to who's in the office.
	Who's the president of the White House?
	Who's in the Oval Office?
	Who's the president?
	And having a president that supports the military will reverse that course.
	Having a president that, again, goes to the old school way of you either make it or you don't.
	Work hard, be in there, don't care who you are.
	Because the military, that's why you shave your head.
	That's why you go into basic training and everybody's the same.
	Because they don't care if you're black, he, she, white, Mexican.
	You're a soldier.
	You're an airman.
	And we got away from that.
	The recruiting, though, has shown that people don't like that.
	Nobody wants to join.
	So I'm hoping that it rights itself.
	But there is no individualism in the military.
	When there's individualism in the military, the military is going to fail.
	This is not about I. It's always about team.
	It's about the brother to your left and your right.
	It's about giving of yourself.
	It's called selfless service.
	It's an army value.
	The big generals up there, I don't know, for some reason, they're forgetting that.
	But it can right itself.
	The first step, again, though, is the recruiting, which we're already seeing.
	It's down.
	So they're going to have to do something to fix it.
	It's not changing the pronouns.
	It's just going back to the old way of the military.
	But the second is, yeah, you have to have a president in the White House, commander in chief that actually supports the military and learns from our past mistakes, but also is big on old military values, which is discipline, Teamwork and the never quit attitude when you're faced with massive amounts of adversity and obstacles because in combat You're going to be and you can't have somebody that cares if he's a she or a she You want somebody that cares if I'm gonna have my brother go home.
	I'm gonna step in front of that That bad guy to make sure that the rest of my team is safe.
	I'm gonna jump on that grenade which That's not popular today in today's military, but that's what I read when I was growing up, and that's what I looked, and that's how I think the military should be.
	Give yourself for your brothers.
	You just look at the disastrous recruiting figures.
	I think only the Marine Corps met them, and if you look at the U.S.
	Army, it's catastrophic shortfall.
	That tells you what you need to know.
	That means that the institutions have been devalued by They're leaders, and as such, Americans are thinking twice about joining.
	We're talking to Chris Paronto, Battle Line Tactical Training.
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	Dr. G is ready for anything on America First.
	Yes, indeed, and we're coming back with Monty Norman's original James Bond theme.
	Very, very apposite for our special guest here on the Manhood Hour.
	He is one of the Warriors from the Battle for Benghazi.
	If you're not familiar with the full story, the book is 13 hours and the movie made based upon the book is excellent.
	Chris, let me ask you the question we ask all of our guests on the Manhood Hour.
	So, given what we've discussed, given the assault on what it means to be a man, do you find yourself optimistic or pessimistic about the guys that have to stand up and save our civilization?
	You know, I have a son that's 19.
	I think he's acting just as I would.
	I think he's probably a little bit more behaved than I was when I was 19.
	But I it makes me feel optimistic because he does.
	He acts.
	Yes, he's sure he has chivalry.
	He's he's very respectful to his mother.
	He's very respectful to his girlfriend, which I hope she stays his They're not dumb and get married young like I did, but he's doing things like I did growing up.
	And so there is optimism there.
	And I'm being in a small town.
	You see boys acting like boys.
	You see him getting into trouble a little bit, but you also see him holding the door open for for a for an older lady or, you know, seeing saying I get a lot of sir and ma'am, which I didn't get in the city and I don't still get in the city.
	Um, so there is some optimism there because I do see some positives and I think chivalry and sir and ma'am are important.
	They're good indicators.
	But we can do better.
	And by being a person, I'm 52, I've been through a lot.
	I still, if I'm in front of anyone, I still say sir and ma'am.
	When I see you in SHOT Show, I'm going to say sir.
	You're going to make me feel old again, Chris.
	With the same flipping age, okay?
	With the same age.
	I'm 52 as well, thank you.
	You look good though.
	You're in better shape than I am, brother.
	But it's setting the example.
	You're still leading by example.
	And I tell kids, if I have been through all this, and I even told my son this, if I can still say sir, then you can.
	It's just a matter of respect.
	And that's important.
	It's crucial for everyone listening, everybody watching, to understand that we all have a role to play.
	If we believe in those values, it's not about, you know, Chris flying across the nation giving speeches.
	That's what he's doing right now.
	He's actually talking to us from his hotel room.
	It's not about having a three-hour radio show every day or a weekly TV show.
	It's about every single one of us Displaying those values every moment that we are, you know, awake and breathing.
	That's how you are the agents for change.
	We've been talking to Chris Paranto.
	He's a friend of mine.
	I can't wait to see him at SHOT Show in a few months' time.
	Follow him on social media at TantoParanto.
	ChrisTantoParanto.com.
	That's Chris with a K, and he is the CEO of the Battle Line Tactical Training Company.
	And let's end by remembering, and please, as you go to bed tonight, let's say a prayer.
	For those who died in Benghazi, and for their loved ones to continue to give them strength, Ambassador Chris Stevens, Information Officer Sean Smith, and CIA Operators Glenn Doherty and Tyrone Woods.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, you've been listening to the Manhood Hour.

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