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I wonder if you'd say to us, since it's clear that you're not corrupt and you got elected, why should people think that the system produces corrupt results when there you are?
Well, I'm not sure you should assume I'm not corrupt, but I thank you for that.
Yeah, there's a little bit of a skip there in time.
That first cut was from when Joe Biden first became a senator in 1972, warning us that you shouldn't, you shouldn't expect him not to be corrupt.
No, we don't.
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Not only do we have in the third hour my former White House colleague Sean Spicer, former press secretary, one of the best press secretaries we've ever had on his new ventures and The relationship between the GOP and the President today and what his advice would be.
I'm going to ask him what he would say to the President in terms of the next 14 months and how we get him back into the White House.
But the second hour in studio, none other than the former chairman of the Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes, a man who has done more than anyone else to reveal the depth and the breadth of the swamp.
And to teach us just what it's going to take to push back and fight, fight, fight.
All right, before we get to all of that, we'll have time for some calls in the first hour.
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I've been a little bit remiss this week.
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But first, right now as we speak, the Attorney General, it's so pathetic, you
know, the Democrats are calling him General Garland.
Can we just stop this, okay?
You can call him AG or Attorney General, but he's not a general.
He's testifying before the House Judiciary Committee.
I just want to play you one cut from earlier today.
Congressman Mike Johnson asked him a very reasonable question.
Has he had any involvement, as the Attorney General, in the investigations of the current president's son, Hunter Biden?
Listen carefully to Garland's response.
Have you had personal contact with anyone at FBI headquarters about the Hunter Biden investigation?
I don't recollect the answer to that question, but the FBI works for the Justice Department.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
You don't recollect whether you've talked with anybody at FBI headquarters about an investigation of the President's son?
I don't believe that I did.
Very strange word usage, don't you think?
Listen to the clip again and first note the hesitation, the pause.
I mean, you're the chief law enforcement officer outside of the White House because Actually, the Constitution is clear.
The incumbent President is the Chief Federal Law Enforcement Officer of America.
So, President, underneath the President, is the Attorney General.
So, you're the second highest law enforcement officer in the nation.
And the son of the current president has been investigated for four and a half years.
Of course, slow-rolled.
We know why it's taken four and a half years, because they don't want to get him in trouble, so constant slow-rolling.
And you're being asked, did you, as the second highest law enforcement officer in the land, talk to anyone at the agency you control, because the FBI is actually under the Department of Justice, did you talk to anyone, anyone, as Attorney General, about the investigation of the President's son?
What is his response?
Let's listen.
Have you had personal contact with anyone at FBI headquarters about the Hunter Biden investigation?
I don't recollect the answer to that question, but the FBI works for the Justice Department.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
You don't recollect whether you've talked with anybody at FBI headquarters about an investigation of the president's son?
I don't believe that I did.
So, how do you deal with that?
What conclusions do you draw?
Well, number one, you just look at the man, you listen to his timorous voice, and you realize he's a nobody.
He's a meat puppet.
He's a pathetic excuse for a man.
He's not really a man, number one.
Number two, you know he's lying.
Anybody who uses the phrase, I can't recall the answer to that question, What does that mean?
Does that mean that you had a script of answers and you tried to memorize the script of answers and you couldn't recall the answer?
Because what does a normal person do if they can't remember something?
They say, I don't remember.
Or if they want to be posh, if they want to be fancy, I don't recall.
Nobody says, nobody who's being honest says, I don't recall.
The answer to that question, well, that's because you're a liar.
You did, of course you discussed.
I mean, we have none other than Newt Gingrich, one of the greatest Americans alive today.
Former Speaker of the House who tells us as former congressman from Georgia that a reliable source here in DC has confirmed for him that Biden's DOJ on the weekend before that ominous Monday press conference at 11.30 at night ordered Fannie Willis To do what in Fulton County?
To bring the secret grand jury indictments against President Trump because the latest Hunter Biden and Joe Biden emails were being loosed on the world?
The Federal Department of Justice is ordering a county DA, a county prosecutor, And you, you don't even recall if you had a discussion with somebody at the FBI about the investigation of the current President's son.
You lying sack of excrement.
On top of that, we know who's really running the Department of Justice.
It's Obama's former, you know, right-hand gal.
It's Elisa Monaco.
We know who it is.
The assistant AG.
The administration is peppered with former Obama holdovers.
Merrick Garland is just reading a script given to him by one of those Obama holdovers.
And they think you don't realize.
But we get it.
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But first, I think we have to shake things up.
Is Jennifer Horn with us?
Hello!
Greetings, my friend.
I'm sorry, but I can't.
I forgot my parrot at home today.
So I don't have my peg leg or my crutch.
You might want to explain that to the listeners.
What were you doing on your show this Tuesday?
We were celebrating Chocolate Like a Pirate Day.
Arrrr matey!
But is that a thing or did you and Grant come up with that?
Oh no, that's a thing.
You know how this is.
So we have, God love our production team on The Morning Answer, we have Dan Dan the Phone Man, Hot Chocolate Jose, we have Radar, we also have Josh Jacobs, a very popular guy.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Dan Dan the Phone Man, Radar, Hot Chocolate, why don't we have, why doesn't, nobody here has a nickname on my team.
Oh, I can help you if you want.
We can go through this.
We can make it work.
Mr. G is the most imaginative thing.
So I'm Dr. G, Jeff's Mr. G, but I think we need something a little bit more exciting for the most exciting producer in radio than Eric.
Guy, it still freaks me out that Dan Bongino has an engineer who's also called Guy.
How is that?
That's very strange, right?
Is he moonlighting, do you think?
I don't know if he's moonlighting, because if he does, he's getting across, you know, from Florida to D.C.
very quickly.
And then we have Alex, we have John.
So he texts me some good nicknames, and then I'll surprise the team with them.
So, but you're having far too much fun on your show, but really, Talk Like a Pirate Day, explain that.
Yeah, so Josh Jacobs, who puts together every day, he gives me the whole calendar of what it is.
Like, today was random.
It was Backpack Awareness Day, Queso Day, String Cheese Day, and usually I just ignore those.
I mean, I might look at them and just kind of move on, but yesterday it was Talk Like a Pirate Day, and so I thought it was sensible to celebrate with you.
And so before we get on the air with you, Seb, Grant says, you can't do that with Dr. G. You can't do Talk Like a Pirate Day.
And I said, watch me.
And so we did some pirate jokes and you gave me your best pirate.
Let me hear it again.
again? Why are me matey shiver me timbers pieces of eight pieces of eight. There you
go right? That's surprising.
How can you not love that?
Did that surprise you?
That was good.
It was excellent.
I would expect nothing less, because you're known for your vocal talent, so I expect nothing less.
It's the land of Long John Silver.
Come on.
I mean, all the pirate stories come from where I was born.
Hang on a second.
Reality check.
String cheese day?
Right.
This is what I'm saying.
It's obviously a lot of PR people who get together and they're like, oh, I'm with the string cheese board.
Today will be that day.
But apparently today is that day.
So consider yourself now informed.
So I hope my kids aren't listening because when they were little, they loved string cheese.
They'd love to pull it apart.
Jennifer, I'm going to say something that may get me in trouble with millions of people.
Is this controversial?
I think it's controversial.
I don't get string cheese.
It just it's like plastic.
It doesn't taste of anything.
I don't mind string cheese.
But it doesn't taste of anything!
No, it doesn't.
That's why.
It's not extra like stinky cheese, which I'm not a fan of the stinky cheese.
I guess that's why I like the string.
But you always think of those kids on the playground sitting next to you with not the cleanest hands pulling strings of that string cheese.
I eat it like a real man.
I just...
All right.
I don't buy it.
I don't buy it.
All right.
You were doing Talk Like a Pirate Day to just have a little bit of fun because you'd have had a very heavy Monday because of the sheriff's deputy who was basically assassinated sitting in his patrol car, L.A.
County deputy.
They caught the individual, this Hispanic young man, I think, after hours and hours of a standoff.
For those who are not in California, aren't in L.A., Can you tell us a little bit more about that?
They caught him alive.
The special weapons unit was there, brought him in alive.
There's a bit of a backstory here, right?
Yeah, and it's a disturbing backstory because the minute he was caught and surrendered, he admitted to doing it.
There's no doubt.
He's confessed.
But his family came out and they started begging Los Angeles and the family for sympathy because this individual is allegedly mentally ill and he's schizophrenic.
And so you know what a great respect I have for the Second Amendment.
I have a firearm.
I believe everybody should be able to protect themselves and their family and their property with a firearm, because that's the rights afforded to us by the Constitution.
But when you have a family who comes out literally moments after someone is arrested for ambushing and assassinating, as you mentioned, a police officer, Asking for sympathy because of his schizophrenia, I must ask you then, why does this guy have guns in his house, in his bedroom?
Because there was a lot of ammunition, there were firearms inside his house.
With the responsibilities that I think real gun owners carry with them, there is great personal responsibility with that.
And clearly this family, and I'm not trying to shame them because I'm sure they're going through their own sorrow and sadness, but it's hard to feel sorry for someone in this situation when it was Allowed to happen.
Do we have any, I know it's you know just a few days later and let's let's keep keep the sheriff deputies loved ones in our prayers.
He looked like a young young officer.
Is there any indicator of why this man had to die?
Why he chose this patrol car?
Oh, it is unknown at this point.
They said that a couple of weeks ago, this individual, I don't even want to use his name, but the person who's confessed, was part of a road rage incident two weeks before.
I don't know that the officer, the deputy, was involved with that.
I do know that we have a lot of problems in LA County that lead to this.
It is time for the Board of Supervisors in L.A.
County to take a good, long, hard look in the mirror because we have a couple of issues at play.
Number one, they have helped facilitate the anti-police rhetoric that we just have that's running rampant in this country, especially after 2014 and then after 2020 with George Floyd.
That's got to stop.
There are bad police officers out there.
Let's do what we should do, find those officers, remove them from the force, but let's stop vilifying the 99.9% of officers who leave their families behind to protect us.
That's number one.
Oh, sorry.
No, we only have a minute left in this segment and I want to completely change gears in the next segment.
There's one story that haunts me every morning because I say prayers as I walk the dogs for the survivors and the victims.
LA County, oh my gosh, I forgot, I thought this was the A segment.
All right, stay there.
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That vehicular... In Las Vegas, right?
No, no, no.
The cadets at the LA County Academy who were run down and who lost limbs because of that kid driving that SUV.
I know they found the guy.
Did they ever get to the bottom of what happened there?
You know, I keep trying to check back on it.
It's really few and far between, but I don't think he ever went to jail.
What bothers me about that story is that he said it was an accident.
Right.
And that he had fallen asleep.
Like he accidentally rammed them.
But if you listen to the account and the thing that haunts me about that story is listening to the guy who actually stopped it.
He was a good Samaritan who went up to the window who punched the window out and actually pulled this guy basically off of the gas and he said that the guy's eyes were open and so it's hard to imagine How you can be asleep with your eyes open, I mean, I guess.
Was he underage or he was just a young man, right?
Yeah, I think he was 20 or 21.
Yeah, he's a young guy.
But there still hasn't been a lot.
And that officer, by the way, actually just died about a month or two ago.
Is there any fund?
Did anybody set up a fund?
I think there is a fund.
I can actually, you know, a lot of the times with the Sheriff's Department, and I actually just posted it for the deputy who passed over the weekend.
It's called, I'll send it to you, actually.
Please.
There's a group that puts them together for the deputies.
It goes directly to the family.
All right.
I'd love to get that.
Yeah.
It's a rough one.
And, you know, we're just so underfunded with the police.
Right now, we've got 8,000 deputies and the minimum they're supposed to have is 10,300.
But the Board of Supervisors will not allow for hiring because we've defunded the police.
Unbelievable.
Yep.
At some point, somebody will wake up, I suppose.
But it was so many, so many of the cadets were injured and lost limbs.
I know, just rolled.
I know.
I know.
All right.
And they're still graduating.
I think that class actually graduated in the springtime, but I don't know.
That would be a hard one to go back on the streets after that happens to you as a cadet.
Right.
My pillow.
Yeah.
Title for the monologue?
Actually, I'm going to save my pillow for the next because I've got loads of stuff to ask Jen.
I'm not even going to talk about California.
I've got so much stuff, but... I know, there's so much.
There's just too many things.
I need to get you in trouble with one of your former hosts.
Can I do that?
Yeah, sure.
What are we going to do?
Thank you.
One minute.
Mwahahahaha!
I have a cunning plan!
Mwahahahaha!
She said yes!
I got her.
I got witnesses.
I said let's go.
You know, it's alright.
For you, for you.
Look, if you can get me nuked off YouTube, what goes around comes around.
Hey, that was an accident.
Yeah, right.
It came out of your mouth.
I didn't tell you to say it.
Fascist!
Fascist!
The best part is, did you see the last sentence of that op-ed?
Yes!
Yes!
I am going to use it, look!
I'm going to use it on Twitter.
I'm going to, I'm going to, you can't look at it, that's cheating.
The last sentence.
Oh gosh, I have no idea.
The last sentence.
I am going to so nail him to the wall.
I'm guessing this has got to be Larry Elder.
No!
Right?
My former colleague?
Oh, Shapiro.
No?
Maybe.
15 seconds.
Okay, that's fine.
Bring it on, let's go.
go. 10 seconds.
I'm going to play a little bit of the game.
Making sense.
Out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
I'm not even going to do the reading in this segment.
I have too much important things I want to do.
That's really good grammar.
I know.
I came from England.
I just sent a picture to Eric.
I want to talk about a former... Hey, Jen, tell our... Can we... Yeah, there we go.
Jen, is it true that you once used to host Morning Radio?
Yeah.
With four hosts?
Yes.
I was the fourth, because none of them liked Trump, and Trump was the nominee, so they're like, we need to pick someone else.
It's hard enough with Grant.
How do you do it with four?
You'd be amazed.
It was chemistry and camaraderie.
That's what it was.
All right, so who were the other three?
And rapport.
Okay, so I had Brian Whitman, who was the liberal, very funny guy.
You had Ben Shapiro, who most people know, the conservative guy.
Ben who?
Ben who?
Ben Shapiro.
Okay.
Ben Shapiro.
Okay.
Yes.
Alicia Krauss, both of them conservative, both of them very aligned.
And so none of them liked Trump in 2016, and he was the nominee, and they knew I was doing another show on the station.
They knew how much I was talking Trump all the time.
I saw it.
And so they brought me in as the fourth person.
So yes, it was a crowded room and a crowded table, but all four of us hosted the program.
All right.
Well, first things first, I just saw this photograph of Ben Shapiro this morning.
What is this?
I'm sorry.
I'm just going to sit casually in my casual jacket holding my sunglasses, because I'm a movie star.
It's just like, oh my gosh.
You're going to get me in so much trouble.
You want a secret?
I'll give you a secret if you want this.
Oh, God.
Just do it!
So when I was working with Ben Shapiro, you know, it's early morning radio.
Most people don't dress for it.
I do because I'm not a John Fetterman.
So I actually dress up for morning radio, but not a lot of people do and that's okay.
And so Ben would come in a lot in just like t-shirts and pants.
Before he started to take off, like as he was launching the Daily Wire, I do believe he did mention to us, and maybe he talked about it on the air, that he did hire a stylist.
Oh yeah, and they're trying very hard.
Let's put that photograph up there.
His wardrobe did change quite a bit after that.
Yes, I'm GQ man suddenly.
He looks good though.
He looks alright.
He's trying too hard.
Alright, let's get serious.
He's got this article where he's trying to slam my former boss President Trump.
Trump fumbles on transgenderism by Ben Shapiro at the Daily Wire.
It's an exegesis.
It's like the shortest article.
I've never written an article.
It's like, look at this, it's like 20 words.
It's a tweet.
Really?
This is journalism?
It's pathetic.
Anyway, here's a couple of lines.
Then Megyn Kelly asked a simple question.
Can a man become a woman?
Trump hesitated.
It would have been easy for him to say, I changed my mind on this subject.
But Trump has never admitted that he's made a mistake.
So that was impossible for him.
Alright, so he skews him for, like, pausing, and then, are you ready for this?
I'm ready.
This is the big setup.
This is the big setup.
Last sentence, and you heard Jeff in the break, we had a Vulcan mind melt, he said, look at the last sentence, which, as you can see, I have already highlighted.
This is what Shapiro, man of moral rectitude, says as a criticism of my former boss.
Okay.
Maybe that's right.
But Trump does have a moral obligation to speak the truth on matters of biology!
And I thought, huh, that's interesting.
Because I remember a hot mic moment where Ben Shapiro didn't seem to have such a moral attitude to the truth and biology of sexuality when he was talking to his production crew after he did a segment and he wanted to edit himself out.
Play cut.
We are indeed done here today.
I have an appointment I gotta get to.
Thank you guys, it's great to see you, and I will see you here next time.
One thing on that episode?
Yeah.
I thought I said pansexual.
Pansexualism is weird.
Can we just cut that?
I can ask.
That'd be great.
Before it's reposted?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, we could, um... It's like a 10-second bit.
It's about halfway through.
It's just a 10-second bit.
I'm like, that's kind of weird.
Like, you don't... You like everything?
Like, you have no dis... You want to get rid of that?
Yeah, it's just, like... It's nothing, but... Don't make it something.
It is weird that you are attracted to every single thing.
No taste at all.
I thought that was a funny bit.
It is a funny bit, but that's why I'll get boycotted.
I'll get boycotted.
It's weird.
I said pansexual.
It's just 10 seconds.
Can you guys just cut it afterwards in post?
But hang on a second.
Don't you have a moral obligation to speak the truth on matters of basic biology?
I'm confused.
I had never seen that clip before.
That's pretty funny.
But let me tell you something.
This is this is not new.
Ben Shapiro, I'm not breaking news here, doesn't like Donald Trump.
He doesn't like President Trump.
He never supported.
You know, I remember and I still get stuff on Twitter about this.
We had a really hot debate.
It was a really good one, actually, just the two of us, the other two people in the room that kind of backed out.
And it was just the two of us going back and forth about why I believe Donald Trump to be the best person for this country.
And I said, and by the way, what's your alternative?
Are you going to vote for Hillary Clinton?
And he said yes.
And then we went to a break.
What?
And I still get people asking about that to this day.
So I had to defend the moral character of Donald Trump for five months before the 2016 election.
And that's not even what it's about.
The people who get so caught up in the moral character need to remember what the Trump policies did for this country.
This is the key.
This is the key.
He doesn't go back and edit himself out because he's afraid of getting boycotted.
They want to put him in prison for 700 years.
God bless you, Jennifer Horne, for putting up with it for five months.
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Well, closely, cause I kind of know the routine, so I don't, I don't know.
I think it came from Mark Dice originally.
It did.
Oh, Mark Dice dropped the video?
That's where I found it, yeah.
Before.
Alright, we're gonna have fun with that on social media.
Remember that Ben Shapiro also did the 2,000 mules, not any evidence.
Remember that?
Yeah, he did say that too.
And he also, on Bill Maher, said that the January 6th guy should rot in jail.
I remember that, yeah.
Wow.
That's a quick one if you want to come in with that.
To keep the bashing, it's like 10 seconds.
Yeah.
Jeff loves this.
And if I get the letters, I'll share them with you.
So do I. I need nicknames.
I need nicknames.
I need nicknames for Gi.
I have many things.
Gi, not Dan Bongino's Gi.
That's a bit of a long nickname.
Different Gi.
We need John, the... John?
John, this is what you need to know about John, OK?
This is the most important thing.
He is like Sasquatch, and then every year, he shaves his head and his beard every year.
And then you come into the studio, and you think, who's that?
You don't work for me.
No, seriously.
Oh, I see.
I see the beard right back there.
OK, got it.
He does this annual kind of thing.
He's not playing for the Yankees.
I think it's religious or something.
And then you don't know who it is.
Eric is just our resident extremist.
And then Alex is the silent but deadly.
There you go.
I like the DeSantis sticker.
That's pretty good.
12 years of sanity.
We keep getting rumble chatters asking us to remove that bumper sticker.
I bet they do, but it's fun.
Can you imagine how valuable that will be when he cancels his campaign next week?
Oh, yes.
And you know who's going to be the new push?
It'll be all Nikki Haley.
Mark my words, right now.
Totally.
Totally.
It's happening.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was fun.
I was fun.
OK, I'll talk to you guys later.
I'll send you the segment.
You can text it to Ben.
OK, hey, I will, and I'll post it everywhere.
I'm getting good at my social media.
You haven't been watching my reels.
Your reels or what?
I've been doing a reel every day on Instagram.
Ooh, somebody got to you.
Yeah, I know.
Just don't do what my buddy Chris Plant does.
Somebody told him he has to do his reels in sunglasses, and it just looks creepy.
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That's not my vibe.
No!
Take your glasses off.
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Thanks for letting me join the party.
And may I have your permission to slap Merrick Garland silly?
You may metaphorically slap that man into the ground because he deserves it.
That was incredible.
So, Dr. Gorka, I have a suggestion for your great manhood hour and then maybe a question about President Trump.
But for the manhood hour, I would like to suggest doing an interview with Ted Nugent.
Oh my gosh!
Yeah, we've had him on the show.
That's a great idea.
Mr. G, let us add Mr. Nugent.
That would be crazy.
Absolutely.
Nice idea, Rick.
Yes, we are adding him to the list.
What is your second point?
Or one of the Duck Dynasty guys.
Oh, definitely.
Yes, Phil, let's do that.
We've had both of them on the show more than once, usually to promote their books or for the Second Amendment segment, but nicely.
Rick, do you have anything else, Rick?
Yes, on President Trump.
Yeah.
Since Hunter Biden has opened the door, should President Trump, can he and should he, sue
the IRS and the view and every jerk that exposed his...
I love it.
Yes, like Rachel Maddow.
Yeah, yeah. Genius, genius. I love it.
I think he's probably too busy trying to survive the 91 counts,
but in the future that could be a very fun thing for him to do.
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Thank you, Rick.
Line two, Connecticut.
I know it's Connecticut.
Greetings!
Is that Colleen?
Yes, it is, Dr. Gorka.
Hey!
So, I just have a question about, I guess, the procedural question.
If you have the witness sitting there, Merrick Garland, and he's not answering the questions, he's ducking, he's deflecting, and coughing, and Does Congress have any authority to compel him to answer these questions?
Well, not really, because even if you're in front of Congress, you can, you know, use your First Amendment and Fifth Amendment rights, but if you are continually prevaricating, if you're deflecting, if you had a very tough chairman, and if you had the requisite number of votes on the floor, you could of course All right.
I appreciate the answer to that.
Thank you, Dr. G. You're welcome.
Thank you, Colleen.
All right.
Glad to help.
and to Navarro you could hold the individual in contempt yes Colleen but
that wouldn't compel them but they'd have to stand a contempt of Congress
charge in a court. All right I appreciate the answer to that thank you Dr. G.
You're welcome thank you Colleen all right glad to help.
Tom Atlanta line 4.
Hey Sebastian thanks for taking my call.
I am so angry with the Republicans, with Merrick Garland, with the Biden crew, the whole contemptible bunch, because this is a waste of time.
Except to expose the obfuscation, the lies and delays, it's a total waste of time what they're doing.
You're breaking up, you're breaking up.
What is a total waste of time, Tom?
I don't know if you're in a mobile vehicle or something, but what is a waste of time?
I'll try one more time.
Okay, I'll talk slowly.
I'm traveling for a family member with a health problem.
Okay.
So, alright, so, it's a waste of time going through this.
No, it's not working.
Unless you can stop the vehicle, it's not going to work.
Look, I think I get the gist of your question.
Is what's happening with Merrick Garland or the other committees an utter waste of time?
Look, let's be honest.
We don't control the executive.
We don't have the Department of Justice.
We don't have the FBI, which, by the way, I think should be completely dismantled because it's so corrupt.
So we don't have the wherewithal.
We don't have the tools to bring charges against those who have committed crimes.
Clearly, I mean, look at what we know.
20 shell companies, millions of dollars for nine members of the Biden family, and they can't even point to what it is they were paid.
Tens of millions.
What were the Bidens paid?
Tens of millions of dollars for?
What was the legal, above board, licit exchange for?
Well, if you can't tell me what you're getting paid tens of millions of dollars for, that's because it's illegal.
That's because it's influence peddling.
So, we can't enforce the laws against them until President Trump is re-elected, God willing, if we do our part.
But we need to get the information out there.
That's the most important thing, my friend.
Just let the American people know.
But we've got to do it effectively, and I'm sorry!
Coma's committee is everything except effective.
But let's use the next year, while they're trying to crucify the President, President Trump, let's get the real information about real crimes out there.
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Oh, yeah?
Yeah, but that's a good point.
Yeah, he did kind of like fade.
Jeff, do you know about that?
Yeah, he said the reason a few years ago.
I forget what it was.
That's what I was trying to figure out.
And we have that shortcut of Shapiro on the J6ers if you want to play it.
Yeah, can you play it?
Play what?
I can watch just 10 seconds.
One, 40,000 people did not assault the Capitol.
Okay, it's just factually inaccurate.
There were maybe a thousand people.
That is not making light of the evil of those people who all will end up rotting in prison as they should.
With Malcolm Nance, no less.
Little grandmas are evil.
What are we doing here?
Block.
Then come in with Shapiro.
All righty.
He left his night show because he wanted to focus on raising his family.
That's what made me think he was.
Because he didn't lose the show or anything.
And he went into rehab as well for alcohol.
And then I'm going to tee up Arsenio Hall.
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There's cable coming out!
One, 40,000 people did not assault the Capitol.
Okay, it's just factually inaccurate.
Third, maybe a thousand people.
That is not making light of the evil of those people who all will end up rotting in prison as they should.
The evil that they did?
The evil?
You mean like Ashley Bavitt?
Was she evil if she was executed by Officer Michael Byrd?
You mean the man that put his feet up on the desk of Nancy Pelosi?
Ben Shapiro, really?
They should rot in hell as they deserve.
Wow.
Got a little look into your soul there, didn't we?
All right, um...
Late at night, I was going through social media.
I was bugging my whole team, sending them stuff.
It's weird, they don't react when I send stuff to them at like midnight.
How dare they actually have lives?
But it's quite funny.
It's quite funny, the stuff I sent.
One thing I found that I didn't send them is from Arsenio Hall, who didn't like being criticized for being homophobic.
And in one of the breaks, well, I don't think you see celebrities doing something like this.
Let's just play the cut.
Cut 12.
I'm sorry, I can't hear you, man.
Why don't I have any gay guests on my show?
Well, there are a lot of gay guests who really don't like to talk about their sexual preference, so we don't know whether they're gay or not.
This ain't Murr.
You didn't think I'd run from this, did you?
This ain't Johnny.
I ain't gonna run from it.
I'm gonna deal with it.
Who would you like me to have on my show that's gay that maybe I haven't had?
When Harvey has something I'm interested in, I'll bring him on the show.
But this is my show, okay?
You think I haven't had somebody on the show because they're gay?
What's wrong with you?
I've got gay friends I've had on the show!
Because you don't know them, or it ain't who you want on the show?
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No, I don't do anti-gay jokes.
I do characters.
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Why is it that you can do a joke about anything and anybody, but when you do a gay joke, I gotta have idiots in here protesting over it?
You don't see Dan Quayle here!
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What's your problem?
What's your problem?
Why is it that I can't do a gay character?
It's a joke, man!
Loosen up and enjoy it!
Chill!
That's how you deal with protesters.
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about the Hunter Biden about the Hunter Biden investigation?
Thank you.
I don't recollect the answer to that question, but the FBI works for the Justice Department.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
You don't recollect whether you've talked with anybody at FBI headquarters about an investigation of the president's son?
I don't believe that I did.
you you
you We can't blame Joe Biden and the Democrats for why the Republican-controlled House of Representatives hasn't passed single-subject spending bills.
That's our fault.
So we have to deal with that.
We will likely have to endure some degree of a shutdown.
We'll have to endure some degree of a shutdown.
Bring it!
That's Congressman Matt Gaetz, as far as I'm concerned.
Most Americans wouldn't realize if the government shut down for half a year.
Is that the future?
What is going to happen?
Well, right now on Capitol Hill, we are in the aftermath of the very testy Merrick Garland hearings.
Where he said this today, this might be the cut of the day, when asked about whether he has any involvement with the investigation of the current President's son, this is what the Attorney General of the United States had to say.
Have you had personal contact with anyone at FBI headquarters about the Hunter Biden investigation?
Uh, I don't, I don't, I don't recollect the answer to that question, but the FBI works for the
Justice Department. It's, uh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You don't recollect, you don't recollect whether
you've talked with anybody at FBI headquarters about an investigation of the president's son?
I don't believe that I did.
Lies, lies, lies.
Lies.
Who better to analyze it for the whole hour, and we've got to keep the mics hot through the breaks for everybody watching on Rumble, than the man who's done more than anyone else to uncover the truth about the Deep State, the truth about Russia collusion, the laptops, everything else, former chairman of the Intelligence Committee of Congress, author of the book Countdown to Socialism, a very good friend of the show, and the man who's now in charge of President Trump's truth social social media empire, Devin Nunes, welcome back in studio.
It's good to be with you in person, as always.
It's always fun coming in here.
Great energy, always much.
We love having you on here from a distance, from California, but this is much better.
You've got the Star Wars and the toys going on, Battlestar Galactica.
All the tchotchkes.
We had a great caller in the last hour who raised the question that you can go straight to the heart of.
What can you do when The good guys don't have the executive.
We don't control the DOJ, don't control the FBI or the White House.
And you've got people who literally are prevaricating, aren't answering questions, are evading, are saying... What was it?
What did the former director of the FBI, Jim Comey, on what was it?
320 occasions said, I do not recall, in one hearing.
So, what option do you have, what powers does a committee chairman, does Congress have?
We know that my former colleague Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro were arrested for contempt of Congress.
Is there anything we can do?
So, the answer is that it's a tough slog.
There is no easy answer.
I didn't hear the caller, CBS, but that's exactly right.
There's just limited things that can be done.
But one of the things, I remember I was in here earlier on in the year.
And I brought up to you that they need to move fast with subpoenas and get them enforced and then turn them over when they don't actually deliver on the subpoenas, for example, DOJ or FBI, then what do you do?
Because you're left with, is DOJ, is Garling gonna actually prosecute himself?
They should.
That is what should happen.
Somebody within DOJ should prosecute.
The people at DOJ and FBI that aren't compliant with the subpoenas.
I mean, you want to call it the Navarro rule or the Bannon rule.
And I've thought that they need to move quickly to, you know, there needs to be a vote of the House, I believe, you know, that they'd have to say, look, you're not in compliance.
So the option would be then to do a criminal referral.
To the Justice Department.
You made a few of those in your time, didn't you, Mr. Chairman?
Right.
And then the second option that has not been used for a very long time, and I think it would be tough to do, but it has been done in the 1800s, and I want to say it was like in the 1870s, 1880s, and that is that the House of Representatives could send out their own, basically, police force to go and bring them in.
Yeah, the Sergeant-at-Arms could go out and get them.
Yes.
And look, I think we are to that point, almost.
The question is that Republicans only have a five-seat majority, so you need to have... Republicans would have to be strong about doing that.
Let's look at another option.
We heard Matt Gaetz at the top there say we might have an imminent government shutdown.
The greatest power the lower house has is the power of the purse.
Can't that power of the purse be used to selectively target the parts of the DOJ, the FBI, the intelligence community that have clearly transgressed the bounds of constitutionality and to say, well, okay, if you're using a weaponized Federal police force or the DOJ we're gonna defund that part of it whether it's Jack Smith or anybody else What about that option?
So there's a little bit of a to make sure everybody has all the facts with that so Spending originates in the house.
It doesn't mean that it has to originate in the house It doesn't mean that but it also doesn't mean they can they control all spending I mean, you know this, but it's important for the audience to understand.
You still have to have a willing Senate to go along.
So, yes, you can draft a House bill.
The way I understand the legislation that the House has drafted is pretty good in terms of what it does with the Department of Defense and DOJ.
I've heard no complaints about that.
But the question will be is, can you then get the Senate to agree to that?
And the answer is no.
Yes, you can write a bill.
Yes, you can even pass a bill out of the House.
But you still have to have the Senate.
Right.
Vote for it.
And you have to have the signature of... The incumbent.
Joe Biden.
Right.
So that's the challenge with that.
So let's look at what the options are.
We have the Weaponization Committee.
We have Judiciary.
We have Oversight.
We have the announcement that the inquiry for an impeachment will begin next week.
What would you like to see happen?
My suggestion is the following, and I've mentioned this already, that this is a communications challenge, number one, because there's just so much information from 20 shell companies to China to Kazakhstan to Russia to Romania.
It's just it's a sea of information.
So what I thought would be effective is to have these committees that often have overlapping and confusing mandates Release everything that can be released so that decent journalists like Lee Smith, like John Solomon can write the pieces that need to be written.
And then at the highest level, committees should just concentrate on a couple of things.
How did Hunter Biden get a 1.4 billion dollar deal from Communist China?
Or why does a sitting vice president have multiple pseudonymous fake email accounts on a government server?
Don't get too complicated.
Sit on some really big issues and focus on those and then underneath get all the information out.
Is there anything I'm missing?
What do you think of that strategy?
Where I think they really need to focus on—and I can't remember if I brought this up to you last time I was on your show or not, but I've done several other interviews on this—the inquiry on Biden is fine, the impeachment inquiry.
But here's the challenge, that if you spend all your time going after Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, You don't get to the core of the problem.
Where's the criminal enterprise at?
Because the normal person, when, and you're right, it's like a shotgun effect because there's so much bad information out there.
I mean, there's so much really damaging information out there.
People just can't take it in.
I mean, there's so much going on.
But when you actually stop and look at this, and people have to ask, well, wait a second.
You mean DOJ and FBI had this information in 2015?
Yeah.
And 16?
And 17?
And 18?
So at that point, someone needs to ask the question, well, how did this get covered up?
And that's what I want people to, and my colleagues in Congress, I've told them, I said, look, you could I don't even think Biden's gonna be the nominee.
Oh, really?
I really don't.
I mean, unless he's so crazy and the wife's so crazy that he's just gonna, you know, he holds that presidential title and he's just like, to hell with all you guys, I'm just gonna continue to run.
But eventually, Team Obama's gonna take him out and the propaganda, you know, the power of the propaganda that they control through the fake news.
I just don't see, as the polling continues to get worse for him day by day, and look, A reflection of, because there's facts that are slowly getting out to people that normally don't pay attention.
Yes.
Right?
So that's why the polling's starting to change.
Team Obama, that's running the whole Biden White House.
You and I have talked about this many times, okay?
There are really corrupt people all through the Biden White House, and at DOJ, and at the FBI.
Right.
Leather Woman, who runs DOJ's Mesa Monica.
Right.
Garland, who's... He's not running it.
He's not running it.
It's Obama's gal.
That's right.
So that's where the focus needs to be on because how is it possible in this country with all the reporting mechanisms that are in place, all the investigations that look like they had been started, how did this get covered up for what is now probably a decade?
Biden corruption got covered up.
That's what the Congress should be focusing on clearly.
And I think they lose if they go down the rabbit trail Of individual corrupt practices.
Of Biden and Hunter Biden.
We already know they're corrupt.
Most corrupt family in history.
They're not going to get prosecuted right now.
Maybe if Trump wins, you could maybe get this... So who covered it up and how did it get covered?
That's what they should focus on.
Because eventually you get some of the rats to squirm.
And you need emails, documents, bank records.
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The root of it.
Are we talking about the IC?
Are we talking about people who said, OK, we're going to deflect Hunter Biden, we're going to protect Joe?
Because Dan Bongino has this theory that the real reason this is such a big issue for the establishment is because all of this actually started with Obama.
That's right.
You can't have Crossfire Hurricane.
You can't have... This isn't about some idiot called Joe.
It's Obama.
IRS targeting.
Right.
So it begins with Obama.
I mean, how does Jack Smith end up where he's at?
He was involved in the... I mean, all of these... It's not that big of a group of people.
The names always repeat.
The names always repeat.
Yeah.
Same people, same judges, same FISA court, same people at DOJ.
Or they graduate from... We'll talk about the names.
Or they graduate from... The same schools.
No, no.
They graduate from... They're over at DOJ, or they were over at DOJ or the FBI during Obama.
And then now they're at the National Security Council inside the White House.
Right, right, right, right.
Or vice versa, like Monica went from, who's the Deputy Attorney General now, she's now over... She was CT for Obama, right?
She was CT.
CT, right.
Yeah, and I think she had a couple other jobs and then she reappears as Deputy Attorney General for Biden.
Who are the real bad actors?
At the FBI, it's the usual suspects.
It's Stroke, it's McCabe, it's everybody else.
But who are the ones like Lisa?
Those people graduated out.
Up and out.
They have contracts, book contracts, TV gigs.
CNN and everything else.
Who are the ones like Lisa that people aren't aware of?
Who are the other ones like her?
Probably the main one.
Susan Rice, you know.
Susan Rice.
She just left.
Yes, right.
She was running all of national policy for.
Right, domestic policy.
Domestic policy.
Right.
Remember under Obama, she was National Security Advisor.
Yes.
Then she moves over as Domestic Policy Advisor for Biden.
Right, right.
You know, that's the.
Both, two both positions that do not require Senate Confirmation.
Isn't that interesting?
Yeah.
Domestic Policy Council and NSA.
Yeah.
That's very interesting.
And that's why.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, so much to discuss.
So did your show recover from when Cash filled in for you?
I think I came.
That's the last time I was on your show.
It was shocking.
Eric, how did he do?
Did he hit the post?
Did he hit the clock?
How did he do?
Just like Jim Hansen, he was a natural.
Yeah, he was a natural, sadly.
He was a natural.
So we're going to get him back.
Yeah, because I came on and... How did he do?
I think that was the last time I was on your show.
It was with him?
Apparently, he did great.
And now the book's out.
Now they finally got his book out, so we'll get him back.
On the 26th, I think.
Yeah, he's on a book tour now.
Yeah, right.
So, yeah.
L.I.
Oh, yes.
Okay.
Yep.
Let's do it.
Where's Jeff?
Oh, there he is.
I'm going to go get him.
What?
Can somebody talk to me?
me I'm not sure my IFB is good.
I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do this.
Dr. G is ready for anything on America First.
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We discussed something in the break.
I'd like to reiterate for our millions of radio listeners, as well.
My friend Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent, former NYPD, he has this theory that—it's kind of obvious if you think about it.
I mean, Joe Biden, if he had a brain, you know, he'd be playing with it in the street with a stick, as my friend Chris Plant says.
He doesn't.
So, where does all of this actually go back to?
Operation Crossfire Hurricane, the weaponization of the DOJ, the weaponization of the IRS.
It really goes back to its former boss, Obama.
So doesn't this explain the desperation with which they have to protect Biden?
Because if the truth comes out, then all the dots are going to be connected back to the
prior administration, correct?
So that's why you had the sweetheart deal.
What they were trying to do- For Hunter.
For Hunter, until the judge ended it.
Okay?
So that kind of blew up their plans.
But still, they couldn't control- Biden is clearly losing his mind, losing his marbles.
And so the problem with Obama's plan was is that by making Biden president, only Biden can stop himself from being president or unless he has a health incident, which, you know, that could happen any moment too, because he's clearly falling and everything else.
But, um, If you really go back and look, all roads lead back to Obama, and have been for a long time.
And so look, they were supporting Kamala Harris.
Team Obama was supporting Kamala Harris back in 2019, before the Democratic primaries.
Then what they found out is once they put, I think it was roughly $100 million, they
put her in New Hampshire, Iowa, these places.
And she gets 1.8%.
Well she was getting, well, she didn't even make it because she pulled out.
Right, she didn't make 2%.
Because her polling was like, was like dead, you know, just flatlined after spending all that money.
So they had to... It was a desperate... It was like the Hail Mary Pass.
You know, pull the guy out of cryo-freeze.
Pull the old guy out of cryo-freeze.
And they thought it was going to be a safe bet they can control.
Right.
Right?
And they have controlled him.
And everybody that went in was controlled by Obama.
I mean, Susan Rice.
And the telling sign that there's problems in paradise, I think, that of course nobody reports on.
We were just talking about Susan Rice, who was a high-level official during Obama-Biden.
When she went from National Security Advisor, one of the top positions under Biden administration, she became the Domestic Policy Advisor.
So she was running basically everything that was going on in the United States.
And look, she's did eight years under Obama.
She's very skilled.
Now, nobody talks about this, but the day before Biden announces that he's going to run for reelection, she exits.
She left the day before.
Now, it wasn't like the week before, the month before, you know, the day before.
So that tells me there's some friction there.
Look, just circumstantial evidence.
Obviously, they don't call me on the phone and talk to me very often.
But the other issue is that while all just simple facts that we know are true, that all roads lead to Obama.
is, you know, we now know from the, let's just talk Russia hoax. It's an easy one that everybody's
fairly familiar with, especially your audience. Well, it's in 2016, August, Obama, Biden and
company all find out that this is a Clinton DNC op.
They are briefed by their intelligence community that this is a smear campaign coming from the Hillary campaign.
So the White House knows that.
Obama, the Vice President, are briefed.
Are all briefed.
And we know that because of our investigation.
These were in John Brennan, you know, eventually came public with that.
Now, hold another question.
He never provided that to us.
You know, I mean, so it's really, really shady, deep state, and corrupt.
But let's be explicit here.
They knew it was a smear, but nevertheless initiated FISA warrants, Operation Crossfire Hurricane, surveillance of a presidential campaign, after they told the president this is a stitch-up job and it's a smear campaign.
It all happened about the same time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But look, let's not be stupid here.
Look, did Brennan brief these guys on this?
Yeah, I'm sure he did, and I'm sure he knew, and maybe they picked up some intelligence that they didn't give to us.
We were the ones running the investigation.
But also, I could just put myself in that room, and once again, this is just me being in Washington for two decades.
You know what actually happened. If Brennan really did say, hey, it looks like a Clinton DNC op,
Obama and all of us, ha, ha, ha, of course it's a DNC op.
They knew it. Of course they knew it.
But then how is Obama involved? Because they know they're planning for this October surprise.
The October surprise falls flat because they can't get any traction once they go after Carter Page.
They were looking for anything. They wanted to get poor Carter Page or Papadopoulos, one of those
poor guys that got set up by our own government.
They wanted to get him saying like, Oh yeah, I love Putin or I'm going to go work for Putin or anything.
And they couldn't get it.
Why?
Because Carter Page was not a bad guy, you know, and George Papadopoulos was not a bad guy.
So they, so they failed in that.
So then they had these bogus stories.
You remember October of 16, Everybody just ignored them because it was ridiculous because, you know, Trump and Putin and Republicans and Putin didn't make any sense.
OK, so why?
What else do we know that happened that really triggered all of this after the election?
We were briefed, House Intelligence Committee, by the FBI, same cast of characters, just like we have normal briefs after every election, and they'll come and say, okay, here's what we know happened around the world, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
No evidence.
It wasn't even raised to us that there was anything to do with Russia.
This was after the election in 16.
Hang on, we've got to save this for the next segment.
Briefed, as is the case, after the election, as the chairman.
And all the members were briefed.
Right.
And there's no problem with the election.
The community says, no problem.
I think we have a cut from a certain former Secretary of State that will segue beautifully into that.
We'll open the next segment.
And we'll talk about it in the next segment, but then we'll finish the story on why all roads lead to Obama.
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Yes.
Because you used to have your... you had a website, right?
I have a website as well, and that's where the show streams as well, audio and everything else.
But they came to me and they said, why don't you try it out?
Everything I published there, I also sent to Breitbart as well.
So there was nothing in the briefings about Russia stealing the election.
I mean, you've heard me tell this story before, but it's important to go back.
I'm just trying to focus on, if you want to say, how's Obama involved, this is the story on how they're involved.
This is not circumstantial.
These are facts.
Total facts.
Unbelievable.
So when are you going to write a book on all of this?
I don't have time right now.
Dictate it.
Yeah, look, there'll be time.
I mean, look, we're in the middle of this war right now.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, we've got the... I mean, really, we have the... I mean, this is the social media wars right now that are going on, because it's not just the propaganda, it's the delivery of the propaganda.
I mean, it's really, I mean, I know people think, they don't realize, they think it's okay, but it's not okay.
Because most people are on Instagram.
Come in with Cut4.
Or bloody TikTok.
Or TikTok.
Instagram and TikTok have the masses.
Facebook's dying.
Twitter doesn't have much.
I mean, it's, it's, so it's... How many states have they banned TikTok in?
It's quite a few now, right?
12, 12 states?
Yeah, but that's just for employees.
Employees, right.
Can't stop somebody from downloading it.
It's so disturbing.
My brother-in-law's staying with me and he's retired, but he's a very successful businessman.
Really successful.
And he wants to share TikTok stories with me about stuff he read.
It's like, dude, no.
You're like, don't put those on in my house.
No.
Well, I don't know what's worse.
Chinese spying on you or Facebook and Instagram?
Is there a difference?
That's what I don't know.
That's my question.
There might not be.
How long are you in town?
I will be here tomorrow, be here through tomorrow.
So I'm here tonight and then and then tomorrow I have a few meetings and then off back to Truth Social headquarters.
So we survived a hurricane there so it's good.
Where are you physically?
Sarasota area, Florida.
So that last hurricane kind of went up through there a little.
The water came up a little bit, not too bad.
Not like the one last year.
Last year was pretty bad.
But then I'll be in...
Back in California.
I'll be back in California.
My kids are back in school.
How old are your kids?
I've got a sophomore in high school, an eighth grader, and a sixth grader.
So it's really good.
But it's a little more, I mean I used to just make this commute and fly all over the world, so I used to be back and forth to here 2-3 times a month.
This is a little bit more, yeah I'm gone for long periods of time, like if I get to True Social headquarters we'll be there or maybe I'll have to go see the boss in Palm Beach or New Jersey or what have you.
where we're pretty much, you know, it's just a little more civilized.
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She's still saying the Russians did it.
I guess that counts as lying about an election, doesn't it?
Yeah, I think it does.
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Let's pull the final thread.
No problem with the elections, FBI, no mention of Russian interference, whatever, but it all leads back to Obama career.
2016, for those of us just joining the show.
2016 is what we're talking about.
So, after the election, get briefed.
No problems.
Nothing.
Nothing about Russia.
Zero.
I go home for Thanksgiving.
And then I remember I start getting calls like, the Senate's been briefed about... And I always would go to the Senate because the Senate was always more gullible than we were in the House.
That's good.
And they tell the Senate, oh yeah, we think there was Russian involvement, blah, blah, blah.
What Russian involvement?
There was no intelligence, no nothing.
So that leaks out.
I can't remember the usual suspects, New York Times or Washington Post, whatever, headlines.
We have not been briefed on that.
In fact, I said, I don't know anything about this.
I haven't seen any intelligence, nothing, zero.
I know the Chairman.
Yeah.
So then we come back into this craziness and then Obama, right after that, before I even get briefed, Obama announces that he's going to do what was called the ICA, Intelligence Community Assessment, about what Russia did in the election.
Now, wait a second, so that basically made it official, put all of government, they got a report done in record time by the way.
So through all the holidays, Christmas, New Year.
The lame duck president gets to do an official light speed report after the gullible senators say, oh really Russia?
Well it wasn't the senator's fault, but I mean, they didn't need approval to do it.
How long would a report like that usually take?
I see.
17 agencies with the caveats.
Months and months and months and months.
But remember, even the report that got put out, it had nothing in it.
Even the report that they took 30 days, except for one thing, and that was the supposedly classified, it's now been all declassified now, but it was the still dossier nonsense that the FBI put in the back of it.
Everything else was nonsense.
There was no value of anything.
So the thing that they had been briefed on previously by the FBI and the CIA, Brennan and Comey, as Clinton DNC smear dossier, was appended to the Intelligence Community Assessment.
Yes.
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Everybody knows we never rehearse these questions, even when President Trump comes on, we don't get questions approved in advance.
And this is the thing, playing that cut from Brennan, and I don't know, maybe it's like the child in me, the naive in me, or whatever.
How do you deal with this question, or what is your response to the fact that every single one of these actors, whether it's Brennan, Comey, Obama, Biden, Stroke, Page, McCabe, I mean, Monaco, I mean, the list goes on and on and on.
Jack Smith, Churkan, Churkan, the judge who's presiding over the case against President Trump.
Former colleagues with Hunter Biden in the same law firm.
These people all know they're lying.
They all know they are destroying an innocent man.
Whether it's Bannon, whether it's Navarro, whether it's President Trump, whether it's the way they came after you, the smear campaigns on you, on Cash.
General Flynn.
General Flynn.
Carter Page.
Who are these people?
How do they do this?
They seem like they have no soul.
Well look, this has been the theme of this whole show today.
And it goes back, this is why it's so critically important that the Republicans don't get fixated on the shiny ball of impeaching Biden.
Because it's all the same people.
You realize it's the same group of people.
Follow the names.
Yeah.
I mean, it goes from Comey and McCabe and those guys, right?
Replaced now by Wray.
It's really within the national security division within DOJ and FBI.
That's how they get access to the intelligence capabilities.
And then it's all these people.
Anybody basically who promoted the Russia hoax back in 16 and seven, all these years, they got promoted and moved up into the Biden administration.
As many names as you think it is, if you really actually sit down to write them all down, it's not that many.
It's not that many, we're talking about a few dozen.
That's what I think.
Like 30, 40 people.
Yes.
Who move around, who go from various positions, but they're the names that always crop up again and again and again.
Right, like just another example, you had Brennan on, I don't know what year that interview was from.
2018.
That was 18, yeah.
So Brennan, Clapper, and a couple other guys that were involved in the Russia hoax just got named to a senior panel for the Department of Homeland Security.
You probably saw that.
Yes, it was in the news today.
So they just recycle all these guys.
They're like, oh, we know we can pick these guys here.
So I'm going to ask you the impolitic question.
Can it be fixed?
It can be fixed.
But look, it's going to take Trump to win.
And then you have to dismantle parts of the FBI, the DOJ, the IC.
Yeah, I think the biggest problems you have right now are in DOJ number one, which remember DOJ controls FBI.
Right.
So that's number one.
As you well know, we've got problems at the Department of Defense.
I think that's where you get those covered, you cover most of the, all of the other intel problems.
But what about DHS and the whole censoring enterprise they've created?
Because now they've shuffled off the suppression of average conservatives through social media and everywhere else through DHS.
Well look, there's not an area that, I mean, they corrupted the National Archives for God's sake.
I mean, you're asking me what's the most important?
D.O.J., D.O.D.
D.O.J., which includes FBI, and then D.O.D., which then, you know, the cross-collateralization of all the intel assets there.
And then what about the next 14 months?
What about the fate?
This is why the Republicans have to focus on bringing these people in.
But what about the fate of President Trump?
Because they want him in prison, or worse.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Or worse.
I mean, look, you have to, you know, I mean, I'm not...
I read into the president's legal team and there's multiple, as you know, there's multiple accusations here in four different jurisdictions.
First time in history, by the way.
Yeah.
I mean, it's unprecedented that somebody's been indicted four times under indictment.
Multiple jurisdictions.
Multiple jurisdictions.
I think the most is like two in history.
So, look, they're going to have to fight this and hopefully, eventually, you get to some decent courts.
I mean, that's going to be the key.
You mean like the Supreme Court?
Or even appellate courts, you know, some of these federal jurisdictions.
I mean, this one in, I mean, the documents hoax raised in this Jan 6 one, I mean, it's a mess, and the courts here are a mess.
Just the mere fact, and thanks to Julie Kelly for doing this, and by the way, Jeff, we need to, that's what I wanted to tell you, got to get Lee Smith back on.
This is the man that documented what Devin and his team did, the plot against the president, It turned into an amazing movie by our friend Amanda Milius.
So, you know, these people need to be given the information and we need to get it out there.
One of the most important tools is what we have on our side.
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Yeah, and they're not the worst.
Really?
No.
I think Brennan is the worst.
You really don't think he's the worst?
No.
Who's at the top of the tree for you?
No, I think it's the guys that are still in there that are the worst.
The ones that survived?
DOJ, FBI, some of the ones that aren't as well-known.
Uh-huh.
You know, the Peter Strzok Jr.'s.
Okay.
I mean, they're the ones allowing all this to happen.
Right.
I mean, that guy, Jack Smith, you just look at him.
Yeah.
You just look at that guy.
He's bad.
Obviously, you know, Monaco is the number two there.
She's running the show there.
They use the deputy positions to really run the cabal.
But I think, you know, the senior guys, Clapper and those guys, I mean, they're out.
They're no longer, I mean, they're useful to come in as figureheads, but they're not.
Clapper is such a moron.
I mean, just a moron.
I told you the story about what he did when he was DIA, right?
No.
So a friend of mine was like 30 years DIA.
In 1991, after the fall of the Soviet Union, 92, he gave the KGB Residentura in DC a pink all-access Pentagon Pass.
Pink all-access pass.
And the SIS guys just said, excuse me, the Soviet Union may have disappeared, but he's still, he's an officer of the SVR.
And they basically went on strike.
He said, unless you pull his pink badge, we're not coming to work tomorrow.
and he was forced to pull the KGB.
This is about as clear evidence you could find of intent by the campaign to collude with the Russians to get
useful information from the Russians.
I think there's plenty of evidence of collusion or conspiracy in plain sight.
I did say that there is ample evidence, and indeed there is, of collusion of people in the Trump campaign with the Russians.
Where's that evidence, former chairman of the Intelligence Committee?
That's Adam Schiff.
I think we're like seven years later.
I haven't seen it yet.
He's the only one that was colluding with the Russians.
Right.
Which really happened, and it was on tape.
Yeah.
He tried to get Kompromat.
Kompromat.
And he used the Russian word Kompromat.
If you haven't seen that cut of him being punked by a bunch of Russian comedians, you've got to listen to it.
All right, let's get serious.
But he really did do it.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
You know, he acted like, I mean, they just played it off.
The news media never attacked him on it.
I mean, look, had I done that, I would have rightfully been run out.
I would have lost my position.
You're done.
The Republicans would have said, you're not going to be on the Intelligence Committee.
He's fine.
And then I probably would have lost, like, I would have been primaried and I would have lost my election.
Not Adam Schiff.
OK.
But now he's going to become the next senator.
Please, let's move on.
We've got two minutes left.
That was a superb hour, so much fun.
We were discussing offline with my friend Sean Spicer, who will be up next one-on-one, what happens after 2024?
If, God willing, all the Americans who love this country do their part and we get my old boss back in the White House.
Personnel is the number one question.
Personnel, personnel, personnel, personnel.
Like Reagan said, you know, personnel is policy.
And Sean Spicer had a certain recommendation for the Chief of Staff of the White House.
He said some guy called Nunes.
What do you think of that?
Well, we'll see.
He said you need somebody who knows how the swap works.
And I think of all the people we've interviewed, apart from the president, I think you know how the swap works and how to beat it.
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We've got a long way to go.
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Like we started talking about, you know, Instagram and TikTok.
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Anderson, you're like a broken record.
No, because I'm not getting any answers from you.
I'm answering you.
Every time.
No, you're responding.
You're actually not answering because you're not actually being a friend.
Let's let the viewers judge.
You decided that you are now at 13th place in national ratings, behind Nick at night, which is at 11.
So weird, when I told him that people are watching reruns of Scooby-Doo more often than they're watching Anderson Cooper's show, he never invited me back and I was deputy assistant to the president.
But it's not just me!
I'm not a media guy, I was a national security guy.
There was some chap whose job was press secretary and he also knew how to deal with CNN.
Here's a little reminder.
Okay, I get it.
Somehow, you seem to believe that you have all of this information, you've been read in on all of these things, which I find very interesting.
I have been read in by the FBI.
Well, so, you're coming to some serious conclusions for a guy that has zero intelligence, uh, class... I'll give you some... A little intelligence, maybe.
But no, what he's saying is that... Clearance.
I wasn't done.
Clearance.
Maybe both.
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Let's ask him why he thinks it's serious business.
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It's always good to be with you.
I didn't even remember that interaction.
So it's always fun.
There's a bunch of these that I've seen over time.
That one, I don't ever recall.
So kudos to you and your team for pulling that one out.
You know what?
I won't admit this publicly, just in front of three and a half million people.
I don't remember it either.
I mean, for my guys, I said, get me some really good clips of Spicer, and that's what I walk into the studio to.
It's fabulous.
So yes, don't tell them, but we do have a rather good team here.
He is the host of a brand new show 6 p.m.
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He works hard.
It's called the Sean Spicer show.
He is the author of numerous works including The Briefing.
We're going to have a lot of fun with him for the next hour.
First things first, I was on your show just a couple of days ago.
Lots of fun.
I told people, you know, I do a lot of interviews on other things, especially British media and elsewhere, and usually it's okay.
I do it because if I don't do it, then they'll have some moron representing America on the show.
But it's really fun.
Interviews with you are fun, and I don't know whether it's It's because we know each other, we were colleagues, but do you have like a different philosophy or explanation as to, you know, the different kind of animal that is your show?
Well, first of all, thank you.
I appreciate the kind words.
I think part of this is knowing your guests, and I know, you know, from working with you, what your strengths are.
And I think part of this is when you watch a lot of interviews, you go, you know what?
No one's ever asked him or, you know, it would be interesting.
I had Jim Jordan on the show just recently.
And the idea is, again, if you know the person, you know their strengths, you know their background, Then you can pull out different subjects and questions to them that I think a lot of folks in the media by default go to the easy.
And so first of all, thank you for the show.
It's on YouTube, Rumble, Apple Podcasts.
So wherever you get podcasts or shows, please go.
And we love the support because I need to catch up to you.
But I love having fun with guests in a way that I think is different than other people.
No, it is, and I have to admit, the long interview I did with you when you launched the podcast, you got me to talk about stuff that nobody's ever asked me, like, you know, how did I get the job?
Why did I really get the job in the White House?
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All right, let's talk about what we've been texting each other.
In fact, it's not just, and I think we can play it as B-roll in the background, the Welker interview with the president this weekend, but your comments to me offline in the last few weeks are part of a much, much longer conversation we had, I think starting a year ago, where you basically said, maybe it was around
the time of the White House Correspondents' Dinner, you just said it's time for
conservatives to stop giving the legacy establishment media any oxygen at all.
They have no moral content.
They have no professionalism.
They are literally an extension, a propaganda extension of the Democrat Party.
So talk to us first about the president's interview with Welker, your take on it, and then the broader question of what do we who believe in the truth, what should we be doing with regards to the establishment media?
Yeah, two great questions.
First, look, and I said to you this both publicly and offline, the President of the United States, I work for him, you work for him, he can handle any interview.
This isn't about handling an interview or a topic.
He'll crush it no matter where he goes.
So that's it.
But when you go on something like Meet the Press with Kristen Welker, you're giving them more town hall with CNN and Caitlin Collins.
In both cases, I mean, I think he did great.
But the point is that you're giving them credibility.
You're allowing them to pretend like they're not biased and that they're not
supporting a side.
And what Krista Welker did in that interview, I've never seen before in my 30 years in this
business, which was that she literally went out of different aspects of the interview,
went to a screen and said, OK, I want to fact check him and then made it very clear to the
audience that they were going to provide additional fact checking.
It was the way of attempting to explain.
For those who didn't see the interview, this is really important what Sean's describing.
So, of course, it's pre-recorded.
We don't know what they left on the cutting room floor.
And then they air it in segments.
And after each segment, which they never do with a Democrat, they never do with Biden, they never do with anybody they agree with, they have the Oh, let's do a fact check now on what the president or the former president said in the last six minutes.
Then they had a panel to dissect and attack the president after the interview.
So it's you're right.
The president was at one point, President Trump says to her in the last week, here's what Joe Biden has lied about.
He wasn't at The ground zero on September 12, 2001, which he claimed he didn't drive a truck.
He didn't do it.
And they don't do anything.
They literally let the president say they call it exaggerating or spinning a tail.
But under Trump, it's a lie.
Under Biden, it's just an old man having fun.
And I think that that's the point here is that we are allowing them CNN, MSNBC, NBC, et cetera, to pretend that they are legitimate sources of journalism.
They don't like what President Trump does.
I mean, he brought up the abortion debate, right?
And he talked about the fact that Democrats, and they won't, take a position on when they want life to begin.
And so he said, you know, they'll allow it to the fifth, sixth, seventh month, even up to birth.
And they continue to say, both Kristen Welker herself, and then in that panel that you talked about, They said that he was lying.
Well, it was Virginia's governor, Dr. Ralph Northam, who is a doctor, who said, we wait for the baby to come out, we put it on the table, and then we make a decision.
Those are his words.
Those aren't Republicans.
Those aren't Trump's.
And yet they continue to come to the defense, whether it's Hunter Biden saying there's no evidence, which there is, or the Democrats' position on abortion, which they won't question.
It is unbelievable.
And I think as conservatives, the idea that we are continuing to pretend that they are legitimate and give them oxygen It's our fault.
We've got to cut off the oxygen.
Yeah, and just, you know, to be a little bit more specific on that, because she talked about abortion again and again and again, which is mind-numbing, as if, you know, you're interviewing the leader of the opposition, the former president, and you've got your pet rock that you're going to talk about incessantly, instead of, you know, maybe the economy, maybe the state of the nation, maybe national security, and then when she says, no Democrat believes in abortion in the third trimester or after killing the child after it's born.
President Trump says, well, you know, Mr. Moonwalk from Virginia, Ralph Northam, who's not, this is the shocking part, not just a doctor, a former pediatrician that said on radio, well, if the baby survives the abortion, you put it on the table and decide whether it should live or not.
And then she kind of just Elides over it and says well, yeah, okay.
Um, so hang on.
Did you just lie about no Democrats saying that you can abort children who have already been delivered or not?
I mean just the moral turpitude of a woman who is Allegedly?
A journalist?
Anyway, I'm going to stop ranting.
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Let's come in with the Iran con.
Back to Iran, the Ayatollah Khomeini said today that Trump has, quote, helped Iran reveal the true face of America.
He said Iran doesn't fear Trump, and he encouraged Iranians to march in the street against America later this week.
Does the president have a response to those very aggressive comments, and does he plan to take additional action against Iran if its leaders continue to escalate tensions?
I think the president or the Ayatollah is going to realize that there is a new president in office.
This president's not going to sit by and let Iran flout its violations or its apparent violations to the joint agreement.
But he will continue to take action as he sees fit.
The president's also made clear time and time again that he's not going to project what those actions will be and he will not take anything off the table.
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Sean, I'm going to ask you, I'm going to try and do Sean Spicer now.
I'm going to try and ask an unusual question that maybe others haven't asked.
Because I usually do wonky political stuff.
But you know what?
As I'm listening to you, as I'm mentally prepping for this discussion, Something struck me about you and your time in the White House.
A, you were very good at what you did.
You didn't have to walk in there every day with a two-foot-thick binder, like Corine Jean-Pierre, and when somebody asks you a question, like, 20 minutes, you're flipping through a binder, and then you read some, you know, potted garbage about, yes, and the president's really good, and the economy's great.
You just did your job, because you had it, you know, at your fingertips.
But the thing about what you did, and maybe it's just your character, but let's unpack it a little bit, is there were times when you got pissed.
Especially at the intransigence and the lies coming out of the members of the White House press corps.
But if I had to choose, you know, one adjective to describe you, or a phrase, it is that you were the happiest warrior in the building.
I mean, you... It wasn't just that you had a sense of humour and you'd crack a joke every now and again.
You just exuded, you know, a good humour.
And for all the crap you, me and anybody who worked in the White House received, you didn't seem to let it stick to you or at least you didn't let it get to you.
So talk to us about why that is or simply how you did your job every day and not let these bastards grind you down.
You know, it's a good question, Seb, because it does.
I mean, you have to lie to yourself to say it doesn't get at you when you're trying to do something And I always told people my job was to speak on behalf of the President of the United States.
And I think for a lot of these folks...
They wanted me to say or do certain things.
That wasn't my job.
I was there to represent President Trump, and if you don't want to do that, then you're in the wrong job.
Yeah.
So there were times when people maligned my character or my integrity, and that definitely gets at you when you're going, I'm doing my job.
I'm telling you what the president thinks.
You may not like it, but please don't make this personal.
There were people that I'd known for quite some time that were in that briefing room that I was very shocked at their behavior and their accusations.
I think it took a little time.
Meaning that as the weeks and days went by, I started to realize this is a new game.
I had always Sort of looked up to that job and said I'd watched Ari Fleischer and Dana Perino and Tony Snow do the job.
And I thought, OK.
But I think once we realized there was, as that clip you played, a new president in town that was going to be playing by a different set of rules, that he didn't need the media the way that other presidents did, it took some adjusting.
And I tried to adapt.
To the new president's style and a recognition that there was never going to be a point in which the media cared.
They were a sworn enemy of his.
He always, you know, it's funny, there were people in the White House, you know, they talked about, you know, the enemy of the people.
And it was kind of funny because they were so offended by that phrase.
And yet to them, it was the opposite.
They looked at that President Trump as an enemy.
And so while they were offended by the phrase, when it went in their direction, they were no, there was no Yeah, I...
I don't know if I told the story in your podcast, but I've done it here on my show several times, just to illustrate what Sean just said.
After seven months of not getting by-name detailees to work for me in the White House
from the Bureau, people I'd educated who'd been postgraduate students of mine, I was
informed informally by a senior FBI guy that, uh, Seb, you're never going to get those detailees
because the seventh floor of the Hoover Building, meaning the director and his deputies, look
at this president and this White House as the enemy.
Literal quote.
The FBI, unelected, look at the man elected by 64 million Americans as the enemy.
That's when I realized the deep state isn't some cranky idea.
Sean, why is it that so many people, not you, not me, but, talk to us about the Scaramucci
or the Omarosa effect.
I'm sure you've got it on your wall.
It's pride of place in my living room.
I have that massive parchment signed by the president that appoints me as a politically commissioned officer, deputy to the president.
That's a big deal for me.
That's, you know, a thing I see as something I will honor for the rest of my life.
Why do so many people come in who aren't forced Nobody forces you to be a politically commissioned officer of the president and then leave the building and then just act like reprobates.
Why is that, Sean?
Is it just the swamp?
Well, both of the aforementioned people that you mentioned weren't from the swamp.
They were from, I don't know where Omarosa's from, and I think Anthony is from New York.
But I don't think that they understood the sense of calling and service.
Look, I've worked for at least 10 members of Congress.
Everyone always says, wow, you're loyal to President Trump.
That's true.
But it's not just him.
I believe that any time that you go to work for somebody, that's an understated agreement.
If you don't want to work for them, then leave.
But if someone has to worry that whether they're a producer on your show or working with me or I work for them or whatever, that the person that's working with or for them has to worry that You're going to write a book or tell secrets, then you're never going to have a good trusting relationship.
Yes.
And I think that if you can look back and say, wow, that person can handle secrets, can be trusted.
That's a quality that I want people at something that I want people to say about me.
I was shocked at the number of people who took—you know, to your point, what, not just the titles and the things, but the number of people who got that senior in the White House that took that and then turned around and stabbed the president in the back.
I get it.
Maybe you don't like everything, and so you decide to walk away.
That's fair.
But don't turn around and then try to make it seem—you know, use it as an opportunity to promote yourself and make money off of them.
Yeah, yeah.
For me, it's just it speaks to the person that does that and speaks to a distinct lack of honor.
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Valley at the Reagan Library.
I think, I agree with my team members who say, stroke of genius, he's going to have a rally with the UAW members who are striking right now.
That is, I don't know who thought of that up, but that's a great move.
Talk to us, I mean, every time they announce who's hosting the next debate and where it's going to be, within seconds you're texting me with a comment.
Talk to me about the whole I mean, look, President Trump's a showman, first and foremost, and he understands how to counter-program better than anybody I've ever seen.
So I think it's amazing.
He's going to do it once again.
He'll take all the oxygen out of the room, and I have a feeling that they're going to ask questions about him again and what he's doing in the UAW, because he can take the spotlight like anyone else.
Look, I think this first one was hosted by Fox, second one here hosted by Fox Business.
I put out the other day, my sources tell me that the third debate will be NBC.
And this goes back to what we talked about.
Why is the party, and I did this in 2016, I built the foundation for which they could have gone from.
Why are they still going back to the CNN and the NBCs to host debates?
These are about Republican voters and the issues they care about.
Do you think that Kristen Welker or Chuck Todd or Jake Tapper or Anderson Cooper really care about issues that are important?
Why isn't Salem Media leading the charge?
Why isn't The Blaze or The First or The Daily Wire?
Answer the question.
Why does the GOP or the RNC do that, Sean?
Because, look, here's what I'll tell you.
In their defense—and I'm just going to—is they'll say, well, these things cost a lot.
There's estimates that Fox spent up to $4 million on that first debate.
I get it.
But the technology that exists today, you could easily have done it.
It's just you had to put the time and the effort into making it happen.
And that's what I think the disappointment is that I have with the RNC right now.
Is that they could have built off the work that we did in 2015, 2016, and done it so that it was conservatives asking conservative questions that voters in primaries and caucuses care about.
Instead, we're going to have 18 questions about abortion to find out where the thin line is in the difference.
And we're going to talk about all these other issues as opposed to things about how to take up.
And do you realize in that first debate, veterans didn't come up once?
There wasn't a single question about veterans.
There wasn't a single question really about China or the military.
All these issues, Second Amendment rights, all these things that conservative voters care about, because that's not how it's looked at.
And that's where I think the shame is, is that we could have put conservative moderators and conservative outlooks at the forefront of this cycle, and we chose not to.
And the same thing, Seb, is going to happen at the convention.
They're going to give all this, you know, dog and pony show talking points to why they had to take care of ABC and NBC,
as if those people care about the Republican Party, our nominee, or our voters.
It's a horrible thing and they are just—no one wants to put in the time
or the effort to realize how the dynamic has and can change.
And at what point should our former boss step onto the debate stage?
So, here's what I would say.
If he gets close to Iowa in December—so the Iowa caucuses are January 15th.
If it's down to three or four people, and they are, right now, even the number two person
is at like 13, 14%, whether that's Nikki Haley or Ron DeSantis, it doesn't make sense
to give them a platform where you're pretending like they're equal to you.
So I would argue if it gets down to two or three people and they are moving up in the polls
and you can give people a choice and see the contrast, but up until then, why bother?
You're giving them a platform.
He was the nominee twice, he was president for four years.
It's not like you're learning anything about President Trump and his positions.
So I just, I think that he's, you know, let these guys have their time.
Yeah.
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So, when you look at the debates, how they're proceeding, who's hosting them, let me ask you the impolitic question.
When you were in the White House, and today, was there ever established an organic relationship Between the RNC and the president.
Whose party is it today?
Because as soon as George W. came in, it was clear that, you know, if the president sneezed, you know, the RNC would say, bless you.
I don't think that relationship was ever established.
So where are we?
We know where the rhinos are.
But what's the link between the establishment party and this individual who never held political office until he ran for the first time and won?
Well, that's part of it, right?
Is that for a lot of these folks...
You know, they came up through the system.
Bush had been a governor.
And so he could start to put people that he knew and trusted into the RNC.
And Trump was a political outsider.
He was a businessman, a reality TV star, a real estate mogul.
And so it slowly started to happen over his presidency.
But as soon as he left, you know, the RNC does have an obligation by rule to be unbiased if you don't have a sitting president.
So it's sort of he was slowly starting to build that infrastructure throughout his presidency.
You know, he personally chose Ronna McDaniel to be the chair at the time, and then she subsequently has sought reelection on her own.
But he was slowly chipping away at that, and I think you've seen the infiltration now of a lot more folks back into the RNC than are clearly not Trump people.
Right.
And so, we'll have to see.
But my guess is that once he becomes the nominee—again, not my guess, but my hope, Is that one of the things that Trump learned, and this is both in terms of staffing and you and I both saw this at the beginning, is that he comes in and says, OK, I've learned my lesson.
I know who supports the America First agenda, who's willing to fight for me and who isn't.
And he starts to staff the political apparatus as well as the government apparatus with people that support the change that's needed.
So, you've worn the cloth of the Republic.
You're a Navy Reservist.
You've served the President.
You've worked in politics for decades.
He is the de facto leader of the opposition.
As you say, he's 40 to 50 points before anybody else.
Will you talk about the fact that this man, who has had More than 130 votes, 130 million votes cast for him in two elections, that he's now facing 91 charges that could put him in prison for more than 700 years.
What does that say to you, Sean, about where America is?
Well, I mean, I think both in terms of politically, like you just mentioned, and society-wise, the idea that we're having a discussion about what a man is and what a woman is, and the left gets outraged if you don't agree with their pronouns.
I'm actually just flabbergasted at where we are in total.
Politically, I never thought that we'd see this kind of stuff.
The idea that—I mean, we are literally weaponized a judicial process where they don't like you, and so they go after you and cancel you and prosecute you and indict you.
I just—I mean, what's happening is unbelievable.
And then society-wise, To see this indoctrination of this far, far progressive agenda get implemented to the point where we're defunding police, we're telling people that they have to use the pronouns, we're allowing children to wag the dog, the tail wag the dog.
The idea that Fetterman, for my goodness sake, it's like, hey, because he wants to look like a gym rat and wear a hoodie and we're going to throw out the entire Senate dress code.
I mean, this is bigger than just Trump.
This is about the entire society just getting, like, remade in the course of a few years.
But I said this, you mentioned my book, Radical Nation.
The President of the United States, Joe Biden, said that he wants to be the most progressive president ever.
We're seeing it happen before our eyes on multiple fronts.
And folks, wake up.
You know, you talk about this every day on your show.
I try to do it myself.
But, like, there are real issues happening.
And if we don't take a stand, we're not going to recognize this country in two years.
And what about the fact, it would be remiss of me if I didn't mention it, given your run-in with the Biden administration over your membership of a committee at one of the military academies.
Talk to us about the woke-ification, the politicization of our military, Sean.
Yeah, I gotta be a little careful there, Seb.
Just to be clear, obviously, continuing to still serve, there's a little bit of overlap that comes.
I would just say that, again, leadership starts at the top.
And I think everybody gets it.
And I will say this, we face real serious threats, particularly from China.
And I think that we need to make sure that we have our priorities straight in terms of making sure that the best fighting force in the world has its priorities straight when it comes to understanding the challenges that we face and what we need to do to be ready to face those challenges.
And I'm not entirely sure that that's the case right now.
I will say the one thing that You mentioned some of this other stuff.
I do think that the way that the media has allowed President Biden and his team to get a pass on everything from the hypocrisy of their policies to their personal actions to the declining cognitive health of the president, it's just unbelievable.
And I think that we have to understand that the forces that we face between late night Hollywood, the media, government, bureaucracy, corporate America, like, we have our work cut out for us.
And if we are not strong and steadfast, we will not win this fight.
But I believe that there are strong leaders in the movement that are willing to stand up and fight, and that's why I have hope.
We'll talk about those leaders momentarily.
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You mentioned good people, patriots, who could serve the nation, serve in a second Trump
administration.
This is my biggest concern.
You know me, you know, I'm a gun guy, national security guy, but whatever your pet rock is, whether it's pro-life, the border, First Amendment, it doesn't matter.
If we don't get the personal peace, if we don't stop Actual subversives like General Kelly being inside the building and throwing Corey Lewandowski against the wall saying, you don't come in my effing house without my permission.
Your house?
Nobody elected you, John Kelly.
Then we have a problem.
So let's talk about a potential second Trump administration, God willing, if we do our part.
You think we can find people?
I hope so.
I'm not so sure.
But we need one position to be perfect above all else after the president, and that's the chief of staff.
Sadly, I don't see a James Baker out there.
You know, I'd love to find to clone Newt Gingrich and give us, you know, like a 50 year old Newt Gingrich, who could be a chief of staff?
Theoretically, if Sean Spicer wasn't available, who would be who would you recommend?
You know, that's a good question.
I don't know.
I think there might be some some, like a Devin Nunes, maybe somebody who's Who's been on the Hill, who understands political, who has a political background, but also knows how to run stuff.
You know, he's now run Truth Social for a while.
I mean, I think the point is that there are a lot of people, members and former members of Congress, would be folks that I might start to think about because they know the system.
Right.
But I think that you're right.
Now, the one good thing that I will tell you is both the Heritage Foundation and America First Policy Institute are going through a project right now.
Helping with the transition, helping to fill out potential folks that would be committed to this agenda in key government spots.
And that's going to be a huge help to President Trump.
Because, you know, again, it's one thing to pick out your top White House positions, but the deputy undersecretary of, like, HHS or HUD, you know, the president relies on other people to tell him.
And I think that the America First Policy Group, as well as Heritage, are going through this process and vetting people Uh, for key positions in some of these departments where they will be committed to the America first policies and the Trump, uh, the, the, the, the Trump administration.
I think that's going to be crucial.
So you don't have people in there undermining it.
Yeah, and just to your point about, you know, the difference between the top-line cabinet members and so forth, and then, you know, the lower level.
When my wife, who you know was a presidential appointee at DHS, bless you Sean, finds out later, after the election in 2020, that her boss at DHS has become a member of the Lincoln Project, that cannot happen.
We cannot permit that to happen.
Because if they're a member of the Lincoln Project, you know what they were doing as a political appointee at the Department of Homeland Security.
They were subverting the will of the man chosen by 64 million Americans.
All right.
What job would you like in the Trump administration?
And the second one, Sean?
Supporter.
He's happy, he wants to make money and be a free man, alright?
That's right.
We're gonna hook him in, we'll reel him in.
What advice, as his former press secretary, I know he doesn't, you know, necessarily have to take it or it's, you know, a leopard doesn't change his spots, but what would you like to see President Trump do more of, let's say, in the next 14 months?
What would you like to see him add to his repertoire?
What would Sean Spicer recommend if he was there at Mar-a-Lago today?
Well, it's an easy question, to be honest with you.
When you ask people about President Trump, almost to a T, even fairly leftist people will agree that his policies worked for America.
More people were employed.
We were at peace.
You didn't see Russia invading anybody.
Iran was contained.
North Korea wasn't firing stuff off the way they are.
China wasn't as provocative.
And so, if the president can stay focused on his policies, You know, he can have a massive landslide.
Does he talk about 2020?
Does he keep talking about what they're doing to him with the 91 charges?
What's the right balance in terms of, here, these are my policies for the next four years, and these are the things we have to fix in terms of weaponization.
Do you have a formula for that, Sean?
I think there's a percentage, right?
So let's say 10% of talking about election integrity and 10%.
But people vote because you're going to help them and you're going to move the country forward.
It's not about you.
So I think the president needs to make light because part of the things that he talks about is that these indictments, you know, if it's one thing for him, but they could come after you.
And so I think he's got a role to explain to people why it's important that he's fighting them.
But the majority of your time, 70-80%, has to be talking about how you're going to move the country in a better position.
Because the presidency, it's not a kingdom that you're overseeing and that it's about you.
It's about how you, and this is what the president did in 2016, is really focused on how he could make the country better, make America great again.
And I think if he can stay focused on that, there's no There's no limit to how successful he can be.
Yeah.
Sage advice.
They vote for you because of what they think you can do for them.
And that's how it always has been.
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