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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: There is no law in America anymore
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You're now, and your agency is being sued by Hunter Biden.
When you heard about that lawsuit, what went through your mind?
Yeah, I think that the Biden family attorneys have given up on arguing the facts anymore.
And now have decided their best defense is to muzzle us and intimidate us, and it's not going to work.
We won't be muzzled, and we're not going to distract from the mounds of evidence that are coming forward to the House Ways and Means Committee.
Greetings, welcome, dear friends.
You're listening to America First with me, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist of the 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
That was Joseph Ziegler on my friend Jesse Waters' show on Fox, one of the few good guys left there.
And he's reacting to the fact that the son of the President, Hunter Biden, has just initiated yesterday a suit.
He is suing his father's Inland Revenue Service.
Why?
Because of Mr. Ziegler and his colleague, the whistleblowers who have told the world under Congressional Whistleblower Protection that the Biden administration, the DOJ, and the IRS stymied efforts to investigate Hunter Biden for tax evasion.
The fact that he is facing tax evasion charges, or was, seems like now it's just gun charges, for just two years of tax evasion, despite the fact that eight years were initially being investigated, is reason enough for a whistleblower case.
Now, I play that clip for you because of something I didn't get to talk to you about yesterday.
Yesterday was crazy.
It seems like every day, three hours, is simply enough.
And I want to share with you what happened to me on Sunday.
I traveled with my darling wife to give a couple of speeches.
The second speech was to an organization.
If you're in my business, you know what the organization is.
It meets privately.
Its membership is meant to be a closely held confidential list.
It had two versions, one in Los Angeles and one on the East Coast.
Certain quote-unquote conservatives took control of the West Coast version, the original, and destroyed it.
It no longer exists there.
The East Coast one still exists, and we had a packed house on Sunday for me to address them.
And I loved it, and it was wonderful.
However, the nature of the organization that meets in secret, whose membership is confidential, led me to give a rather robust speech on why one can no longer do that.
Forget about Republican and Democrat, and it doesn't matter what industry you're in.
This is an industry organization for those who are in the media.
I'll leave it at that.
And the situation is the following.
The threat to all of our freedoms, the threat to the future of the Republic, is such that keeping your conservativism Your patriotism, a secret, is no longer an option.
Because really, not only is the situation so dire, here's the thing you're not supposed to say out loud, I guess.
If you keep your values secret, do you really hold those values?
If you can't publicly stand for them, then do you actually represent them?
Now, don't get me wrong, this isn't about being a berserker.
Of course, you have to choose your battles.
You don't have to bang the drum every single day.
But at a certain point in time, you can't be a conservative if you hide your conservatism.
You can't really be a patriot if you're not prepared to express your love of country in the face of those who not only hate America, but who wish to destroy it.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, because maybe this will help others understand.
Politics is done.
Politics is dead.
Ignore the labels of R and D. They are irrelevant.
Because the only dividing line, the only separation in America today is between those that love America as the greatest nation ever created by man and those who hate it.
There, of course, is a third group who are just kind of ignorant, or think they can live their lives by ignoring everything else.
But they're wrong, of course.
If they want to live in America, you can't ignore people who are trying to destroy it.
And you must help those who are trying to save it.
That's another way of saying what my friend Dennis Prager says with regularity.
There are three types of people in the world, just three, that's it.
Those who fight, Those who help the fighters, and those who do nothing.
Which one are you?
Which group are you in?
Are you fighting to save America, or at least helping those who are fighting?
Because those are your only two choices if you love America.
Because if you're not doing one of those two things, guess what?
You don't love America, and you're not a patriot.
It's that simple.
Reminds me of that story of when my wife and I were asked to address a MAGA gala in Virginia at the Trump International Golf Course, which we'd never been to before.
Absolutely beautiful.
I'll be back there for an event hosted by my radio colleague John Stubbins in the not-too-distant future.
And as I arrived, this woman ran across the dance floor in her long flowing ball gown and said, Dr. G, Dr. G, so glad you came.
Can I get a selfie?
And I said, sure.
And we took the photograph.
And afterwards, I said to her what I often say to fans.
Don't forget to tag me when you post it!
And her facial expression suddenly changed.
And she said, I can't put this on social media.
Northern Virginia is so Democrat, and my husband is self-employed.
At that moment, something kind of died inside me, and I used it as a teaching moment, and about an hour and a half later, after my wife had addressed the gala, it was my turn to speak.
And I didn't mention the woman's name, but I spoke about what she'd done when I entered the event.
And there are these moments in time when you know, you know, you have nothing prepared, no talking points, and you know the big guy upstairs is just using you, he's just funneling thoughts through you.
And these words came out of my mouth.
If you're not prepared to stand up for the values you say you represent, you don't hold those values.
And if you're not prepared to fight, you don't deserve to win.
It's that simple.
We have no choice now, if we love America, but to do everything in our power to save it.
Because guess what?
Once you shuffle off this mortal coil, and you're standing in front of your Creator, it will only be you who is answerable for your actions.
Can't blame your boss, You can't blame your relatives.
You can't blame anyone else.
You, my friend, will have to answer for what you did or what you didn't do.
Will you be proud of what you have to say that day?
Think about that.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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All right, I told you how creepy, creepy Joe is.
Not only does my neighbor, literally the house next to me, have a fundraiser for the president last week, it looks like he followed me to New York on Sunday.
What is it about Creepy Joe?
Well, he actually went to address the United Nations, and please listen to this very short cut, because I can't understand what he says.
What is the first word?
I don't know if he's speaking ancient Greek, or his brain malfunctioned again.
He's standing at the General Assembly, and I have no idea what he's saying.
Cut 11.
Now, it has to involve our institutions and drive creative new partnerships.
Let me be clear.
Certain principles of our international system are sacrosanct.
I want to play that one more time.
What does he say at the beginning?
Anybody out there, call in and tell me.
Play it.
Now as we evolve our institutions and drive creative new partnerships, let me be clear.
Certain principles of our international system are sacrosanct.
I speak some funky languages.
I speak Hungarian, bit of Polish, German, French, but...
Never heard that before.
The number here is 833-33-Gorka.
833-334-6752.
Maybe our special guest in studio can help me decode what's happening at the United Nations.
He's the author of seminal works on the Middle East, on Iran, on jihad, the ideology of global jihadism.
He's a personal friend, Professor Walid Faris.
Welcome back to America First.
Thank you.
It's a pleasure that I'm back here.
So, let's start with perhaps the most shocking thing of late, that not only is the current Commander-in-Chief, for the first time in 22 years, incapable of going to Washington D.C.
or Pennsylvania or New York, the sites of the 9-11 attack for last Monday, he hides in Alaska, gives some speech on some military base that has nothing to do with 9-11, and then the same day, On the actual anniversary, he releases...
Six billion dollars to Iran.
What's the logic there?
And what is Tehran going to do with that, Professor?
Let's start with what Tehran will do with the money.
Their president said, we'll do whatever we want with that money.
In response to our State Department, who said what they said, basically, no, no, no, they're going to commit to do what we tell them.
So that's the first political failure.
You have no pressure on the regime.
Second, they're going to definitely buy more ballistic missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, renew their tank force, fund the five, six militias that are in control of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen.
But there is something else that is worrying me.
They could, may, in my view, in the book that we discussed with you a few months ago, they may use it for lobbying.
They may use it to develop influence in Western Europe and in the United States.
So they'll spend this money buying influence in capitals like Washington, D.C.?
Absolutely.
They've been doing this before, but now with this injection of $6 billion.
You know, in the field of monitoring this influence, we say usually 10% return to them.
10% of $6 billion, $600 million.
You know, Professor, what you can do with $600 million, with the media, with academia, with everything else, and there is no control over it.
The book we're discussing is Iran, an imperialist Republican U.S.
policy.
You are the authority, so please react to this White House This state department, after we basically pay ransom, we pay six billion dollars, which is ransom for hostages, and then this administration says the Iranian regime will only spend it on humanitarian purposes.
Your reaction?
Once that money is in the Qatari banks, once it's there, it's going to be transferred to the Tehran banks.
Who owns them, who controls them in Iran? The regime. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
So how can you go to Iranian banks and check with them where you're going to spend it? This is a joke.
Are they lying or are they just stupid?
Are the people who say this from Foggy Bottom, from the White House?
No, they're saying it.
But some of them are lying, some of them do not understand.
So you have an equal mix of both.
But what is important in this case is the fact that Iran has a plan, is very frank and honest about it.
They're telling us exactly what they're going to be doing.
So how dangerous is this?
Six billion dollars?
This is very dangerous.
A lot of money.
It's a lot of money.
I just mentioned $600 million by the general classical analysis of how much a commission would be, and that would be devastating for us.
But in terms of not the lobbying and what comes back here to DC or Paris or London or whatever, in terms of armament, the militias, selling equipment to countries like Russia or others, that's even more dangerous.
Like Scarface said in the movie, sky is the limit.
They could do anything with that.
And remember, they are also involved in what's happening in Africa.
All these coups, one after the other, in Latin America.
So, we are funding our foes, basically.
The seminal work, so many just put his name into the internet, The War of Ideas.
I used that as a seminal work when I was teaching in Global Jihadism.
We're discussing right now Iran, an imperious republic, and US policy.
The largest State sponsor of terrorism in the world today as per the US State Department Which has just been given six billion dollars to spend on what they wish to spend it on Which we know will be used not just to buy influence in this city But also to hurt American interests and the interests of our allies not just in the Middle East but across the world the next subject of discussion is
We'll be what it was like under President Trump, my former boss, what changed in the last two and a half years.
And for that, the book is The Choice, Trump v. The Obama-Biden U.S.
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Thank you very much.
Thank you.
So what are you working on now?
Another book?
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
What's the topic?
Well, this one's going to be a little bit of memoirs.
Oh, excellent!
Just a little bit.
Fun!
The years where I served and helped Congress and the campaigns.
But that's going to take some time.
Do you have a title?
Not yet.
Not yet.
If you come up with one, we'll... I can't wait to read that.
Yeah, that one many people are waiting for.
And I'm writing my articles and et cetera, et cetera.
We'll have to think of a good title.
Yeah, oh yeah.
You have access to Elon Musk.
To who?
Elon Musk.
No, I don't.
But you are in the circles.
I have the business card of his personal assistant, because Musk used to come to the White House a lot.
Oh, really?
He used to love coming to the White House.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then I know the name of his lawyer, so if you need a connection... No, not now, but is Mario Nawfal involved?
No, no, no, no.
He's not connected to us.
He's not connected.
He would like you to think he is.
Yes.
Because his Middle East contacts are really on the other side completely.
His political contacts here are not good contacts.
I didn't know that.
I used to go on his spaces simply to balance out the crazy lefties.
It's interesting, he's not holding a lot of political Twitter spaces anymore.
No, very few.
He used to be daily.
He's very anti-Israel and all that stuff.
It's interesting.
What Elon is doing in the Middle East is also something.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
And in general, they hate him.
Yes.
I'm going to need D clear.
I'm going to do like a mini-mono on NewsGuard in 2D.
So you've got to remember that.
Okay.
And if they have a website, let's make a buffer out of the NewsGuard website.
Out of their website?
Yeah.
All right.
And that article you found for me, the bright bar.
Now don't get pissy.
Breitbart and Federalist or just Breitbart?
Breitbart's fine.
Okay, because I know the Breitbart one was like over a year old.
Sorry?
My recent book.
Yeah, which one?
Iran and Imperialist Republic.
That's the one I have, yeah.
You've got a buffer of that?
That's the one we've been showing on screen.
Yeah, that's the one we've been showing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It will be seven minutes.
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Then we release you.
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Want to come in with something?
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We're back with our good friend Professor Waleed Fares.
His most recent book is Iran, an imperialist republic and US policy.
In a prior work of yours, Professor, you made a linkage between what Biden is doing and what Obama is doing.
Really, this is a continuation.
When you look at how our enemies are being treated and how our friends are being rejected, there's not much difference, is there?
Absolutely not.
You just put your hand on a very, very important subject.
The actual change regarding U.S.
foreign policy, which was bipartisan for a while.
I mean, Democrats and Republicans used to understand that Iran is a threat, the Brotherhood are a threat, and they were going in that direction.
It changed in 2009, and you delivered a speech, I remember, to the transatlantic group that year.
Obama changed it.
President Obama changed it.
He became a partner of the Iran regime, produced the Iran deal, partnered with the Muslim Brotherhood, produced the Arab Spring.
And when Trump came in, President Trump came in, he changed it back to what the national security principles of the United States stands for.
Removed America from the Iran deal, stopped the expansion of ISIS, so on and so forth.
So what President Biden is doing right now is to return.
to the Obama administration principles and in a very dangerous way.
Who would our enemies like the Mullahs, like ISIS, like the Ikhwan, the Muslim Brotherhood,
who would they prefer be in the White House in 2025?
Goes without saying those who are sending billions of dollars. Absolutely.
Those who are actually going to encourage American companies and other companies to trade with Iran and to trade with the Taliban.
That's another matter very dangerous.
It's very clear now.
This foreign policy basically is sympathizing with the radical forces that former Democrats and Republicans used to oppose.
If God willing, the patriots do their part, if we have as free and fair elections as possible, if President Trump is back in the White House as of January 20th, 2025, we know he's going to kill the JCPOA Iran deal again, we know national security will be paramount, the border will be secure.
What else needs to be done, let's say in the first six months of a second Trump administration when we look at the Middle East?
When we look at the Middle East, it's clear.
He will have to go back, reconnect with the Arab coalition that he has launched in Riyadh, and have them help us in terms of oil and other stuff, but also isolate the jihadists.
We are losing two, three years.
Number two, revive the Abraham Accord.
And expand.
And expand the Iran Accord.
And many populations, even under the countries under the control of Iran, are willing to come.
So, he will have to act very quickly, but he will have to surround himself with experts, with people who understand how the challenges are operating.
Yeah, I think I know somebody sitting in the studio who could help.
I don't know.
President Trump.
No, no, I'm looking at you.
We've got a minute left with Professor Waleed Fares.
Follow him at Waleed Fares.
People don't realize that when we were in the White House, we got very close to the collapse of the regime in Iran.
The economy was on a knife edge because of the sanctions.
Is there a chance in the next five years that the Persian people could perhaps liberate themselves?
There is a great chance.
Actually, since you spoke about that period of the Trump administration, during the fall of 2019, the Iranians rose.
President Trump and his administration supported them.
But what happened?
Foreign influence actually made sure that Trump is being opposed at home.
So all the attacks against Trump, I detect that there was a foreign influence in addition, of course, to our politics.
Remember, when we send billions of dollars and they return here, they could be funged into domestic opposition to the administration.
A challenge to decent journalists out there, Breitbart, Federalist, you know who you are.
This, this fact.
That over the $6 billion, 10% will be coming back to DC for lobbying money.
How much of it could be used to prevent President Trump's re-election?
Now that's, that's...
That's a story.
Well, thanks to you.
The book is Iran, an Imperious Republic and U.S.
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All right, he is fighting the good fight, not just for Florida, but for the nation against the swamp creatures of the other side.
And those on our side.
From Florida, Congressman Matt Gaetz has some breaking news for us.
Welcome back to America First, Congressman.
Thanks for having me, Dr. Gorka.
I'm speaking to you from the cloakroom just off the House floor, and I have been pushing for the Congress to review the agencies of government separately, to not back a continuing resolution that funds or doesn't fund all of government in one up or
down vote.
I think that the military and the Department of Education should stand separately.
House leadership just put up the military funding bill, and it did not get the right
number of votes for us to proceed onto that bill.
A number of House conservatives voted against proceeding to the military spending bill because they have not heard any vision or strategy from the Speaker of the House regarding what the overall top-line budget number will be.
So it's a bit of a precarious situation we've got ourselves in.
It leaves me wondering, Dr. Gorka, how is it that we always end up Back against the wall with government funding running out and we haven't done our work to get legislation to address government funding before the body voted on in an open amendment process.
So it looks like things indeed are going to get worse before they get better in the Congress and we'll have to fight our way through that.
Well, we had reports last week that in conference behind closed doors things got very testy.
Some very strong language was used amongst you and your colleagues.
What is the problem?
Is it the breakdown of the deal by which Kevin McCarthy became the Speaker?
Are there new bad actors that have arisen?
Can you tell us, without giving away anything that occurred in confidence, why there is such a problem?
To become Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy had to make a number of promises.
And there were promises that didn't relate to spending, like a vote on term limits, a vote on a balanced budget amendment, releasing the January 6th tapes.
But a great bulk of that agreement was to constrain the spending of the federal government.
As we chat today, Kevin McCarthy is in material breach of the agreement that allowed him to become Speaker of the House, and I've served notice that if he does not immediately come into compliance by doing these things, that he will face a motion to vacate.
It is my current expectation that if a motion to vacate were filed, the Democrats would bail out Kevin McCarthy.
They would all vote present.
Just indicating that they were there, but they would not vote to remove Kevin McCarthy.
And absent Democrats voting for it, it wouldn't occur.
And so right now, we are governed by a uniparty that Kevin McCarthy has fused with Joe Biden and the Democrat leader, Hakeem Jeffries, And you've got a small band of House Conservatives who are fighting, really in a lot of ways, a political guerrilla war against that Uniparty.
If the Democrats don't bail him out, is there somebody who could get the requisite votes from amongst the good guys to replace him as Speaker, Matt?
We've got a number of members who are talented and capable and conservative and, I think, well-respected in all corners of the conference.
I'm not one of them.
I would not have the requisite votes, and I want to be clear that I'm not pursuing the speakership, but we do have people that I think can meet the moment, and with so much focus on our $33 trillion debt, the fact that we will be soon earning $2 trillion annual deficits in this country, finding some of the fiscal hawks might be a good posture for the moment we are currently in.
I read something in the press about your future aspirations if you can't get the votes to be Speaker of the House, which would be... I think we should make that a pay-per-view event if you become the Speaker.
Is it true that you are toying with the idea of a gubernatorial race for the state of Florida?
No, that is clickbait that NBC News posted.
I am not making any plans to run for governor or any other job.
I have The job before me, right now.
I am doing what I believe God has put me here to do in this precise moment, and I'm working with all of my might to assemble like-minded conservatives to stop this runaway Biden government.
You know, the Florida governor's race is three years from now.
I sincerely hope we still have a country in three years, and in a lot of ways I think we might be hanging by a thread.
Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more.
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Let's have a little cold shower for the establishment, please, Congressman.
What are the real consequences, not the hyperbole, but the real consequences If the Republican Party doesn't deliver by the end of the year on the things they promised to deliver in January, what will conservative voters do?
So this is the heart of the matter, Seb, because in our small group meetings, we've got moderate Republicans and Republicans in districts that Joe Biden won saying we have to Fund more features of Joe Biden's government or we won't be re-elected.
We have to show all this compromise and we have to keep funding agencies of Joe Biden's government that aren't the one or two that we block out.
And that's not good enough.
What I believe will occur if we sell out our own voters is that they will be demoralized.
One, a voter might reasonably look at Republicans trying to pass a continuing resolution
and ask, well, gosh, Nancy Pelosi could have done that.
We didn't need to elect Republicans to extend the Nancy Pelosi policies.
She probably would have done it herself.
So I'm not voting to continue Nancy Pelosi's policies in any agency of government.
That's why we ought to seize the initiative in the majority.
And Kevin McCarthy has failed us in bringing us to this moment without having had individual bills ready for review and with sufficient support.
The bottom line is, if nothing has changed, if we're implementing Nancy Pelosi's policies, then why do we have a new speaker?
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Uh, monologue... Conservatives, um, can't hide anymore.
Uh-huh.
I got the northern cut, too.
How long is it?
Forty.
Is it audio or video?
It's video, because they had a studio, like, ditto cam style thing.
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Anne in Atlanta is angry, line two.
Thank you for taking my call.
I'm calling about a caller, a call you took yesterday.
I think the woman's name was Nancy, and she was arguing for the role of men in the decision to have an abortion.
And I think you dismissed her argument improperly.
That is to say that Men do very often have a role in the decision about abortion.
I worked in pro-life crisis pregnancy work for seven years.
And I can tell you that very often the woman who comes in thinking about an abortion, she herself does not want to have an abortion.
She wants to keep the baby.
But the father of the baby, pressuring her not to have it.
Okay, I get that, I get that, but how about this argument, Anne, and I want to have to
get to some other calls.
If a woman wants to get pregnant, before she gets pregnant, shouldn't she know whether
the person she's having a baby with wants to have a baby, Anne?
What I would say is...
No, no, it's a...
No, no, don't give me any...
Yes or no.
If you are getting pregnant, A, you should be married, and B, shouldn't you know whether the person you're getting pregnant with wants the child?
If a woman... Yes or no.
It's very simple.
Should you know whether the man wants the child?
But if a man... No, no, no, no, no.
It's a simple question.
Yes or no, Anne.
Fourth... Okay, thank you.
Alex Brooklyn.
Hey, Sebastian, thanks for taking the call.
I want to talk about the Iran situation, and by the way, with Matt Gaetz, that was a great conversation, and I think we need to expose these Iran or Republicans, but I don't think we're going to be able to, you know, get a really good Speaker of the House at this point in time.
We've got too many established Republicans that are going to vote for Kevin McCarthy again and again because... Or just people who are afraid, Alex.
Yeah, they got the key.
Kevin McCarthy has the money, and he's going to, you know, give money to someone who's running against them in the Republican primary to get them out of there.
But we have a primary where we can get more anti-establishment Republicans in there, and then eventually we could get the House in the right straightforward way with a good Speaker of the House, and really do things for the American people and stop all this crazy spending.
But on the Iran situation, you know, this is worse than giving a country actual $6 billion, which we never did in cash, because we didn't allow the Iranians to get that money and have access to it.
Bingo!
Nailed it!
You are rewarding hostage taking!
Never negotiate with hostages.
And it's a threat, danger for our country.
And so what Joe Biden is saying, you take our people, you take our people hostage, we're going to reward you.
We're going to give you money.
Bingo. Nailed it.
You are rewarding hostage taking.
Never negotiate with hostages.
We didn't negotiate with the hostage takers, but we got the hostages back because they were afraid of us.
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Smooth travel back to Canada?
Yeah, yeah, it was fun.
Good, good.
Let's do a little reprise of what you had to say about the Constitution in the first part, and then I'm fascinated by this hypersonic weapons op-ed.
We'll discuss that in a second.
Okay, good.
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That was a good evening last night.
That was so much fun.
So much fun.
I had a long talk with Michael Anton.
He's a strange cat, isn't he?
We'll talk in the next break about Mr. Anton and what he did in the White House because he's not an honorable man.
Standby.
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We have another cut from the incumbent president from the United Nations, the General Assembly.
Another gaffe extraordinaire talking about the climate crisis.
Joe Biden, cut 12.
Together with China on issues where progress hinges on our common efforts.
Nowhere is that more critical than accelerating the climate crisis.
Well, that'll be good news for people like me who love their V8-engined vehicles.
We are going to be accelerating the climate crisis.
I guess reading from that teleprompter is quite challenging.
Somebody who doesn't need a teleprompter, I saw him in action last week at the superb Hillsdale Constitution Day as the keynote speaker gave a scintillating performance.
He's our regular guest, one of your favorites, Lord Conrad Black.
Welcome back to America First, Lord Black.
Thank you very much, Sebastian, and thank you for your kind words.
Well, if I'd been given the challenge of writing about the lessons for America from the Canadian Constitution, especially when there isn't one, I would have said, sorry, I'd rather like to give you a lecture on underwater macrame.
I'm probably better at that than that.
Yours was Tour de Force, historic and also current affairs and also very entertaining.
You've written a piece on a very different topic we'll discuss in the next segment that has to do with national security, but there was one main point of your lecture.
I do believe Hillsdale recorded it, so if you go to hillsdale.edu I'm sure you can watch the lecture in full, but what was your lesson For your American audience last week, in terms of the U.S.
Constitution and the problems we face today politically.
I expressed my hesitancy in giving advice, and I also expressed my view that there are altogether too many foreigners giving advice to the United States, and I was only doing it because I've been asked to do it.
And with that intro, what I effectively urged was that the principal lesson to learn from contemplating the current state of the U.S.
Constitution and contemplating how other countries are governed Is that what you need to do is rigorously enforce the Constitution as it's written.
And I made the points that the 5th, 6th, and 8th Amendment guarantees due process, no seizure of property without just compensation, and impartial jury access to counsel, which has been interpreted in jurisprudence as counsel of choice.
uh... prompt justice and reasonable bail all of this is gone at the window and and and people don't and and the role of the grand jury as a as it was intended as uh... an assurance against capricious but uh... prosecution you know the grand juries are rubber stamps they do what they what the district and uh... and u s attorneys tell him to and uh... and uh... and uh... the the prosecutors in the united states are able To extract, to extort, in effect, or suborn evidence by saying that if people don't jog their memories to come up with something useful, then there's a conspiracy to obstruct justice going on and they'll be charged with it.
But if, on the other hand, they can do that, they will get an absolute guarantee against prosecution for perjury.
Now, this is an incitement to make up, for individuals to make up evidence
to convict whoever the prosecutor's after in order not to be prosecuted themselves,
even though none of them did anything wrong, including the accused.
That goes on all the time.
And it is absolutely a mockery of due process.
And that was the main point I attempted to make.
And there were a couple of others.
One of them was that the federal government simply has to enforce the law generally.
I mean, this idea of all these mayors of cities large and small strutting about claiming they're sanctuaries and they're not going to enforce the immigration laws of the country, you can't tolerate that.
I mean, if municipal officials who defy serious federal statutes should be prosecuted.
Anyway, I felt I was preaching to a choir, because I got a pretty good response, as you were kind enough to come yourself.
You can attest to that.
But my point really was that my advice is, you've got a splendid Constitution, but use it as it was intended to be used.
And as it has served you well.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a great constitution, but it must be lived.
It must be implemented.
Additionally, you've mentioned this before, and in your books, in your autobiographies.
Would you just share again, for those who aren't familiar, and who will be shocked by this statistic, of how many federal cases in America end up in prosecution, and of those, what the percentage is that doesn't actually go to court, but is done in some kind of deal?
Yeah.
They get at least a partially guilty verdict in approximately 98% of cases, and of those, 95% are plea bargains.
You know, the defense counsel says, look, they've lined up these 12 witnesses.
They're all going to file in under oath and say that you're guilty of all this stuff.
And, you know, you don't have a chance.
So if you authorize me, I'll get the charges knocked down, we'll spare them a trial, and we'll, instead of eight counts, you'll plead to four or something like that, and that's the best we can do.
Well, I mean, it isn't a justice system, it's just a conveyor belt to the prison system.
And the percentages in the prison system?
I mean, in Canada, for example, 60% of people are convicted, but 40% are acquitted.
It's a shocking, shocking figure.
On another tangent, you did something that I'm sure was taken positively.
It wasn't meant as an infra-dig against the history of the birth of the nation, but would you repeat or just paraphrase yourself when you said that this This argument with the British Empire in the 1776, which ended up being packaged as, you know, liberty, freedom, the inalienable rights, was fundamentally a tax issue to begin with.
Yes.
Well, you see, as you know, and I'm sure most of your listeners would know, the Americans, the American colonists, as they were, We're very upset at the occasional incursions into the northern colonies, New York and New Hampshire, by the French.
The French had a colony in what is now Quebec in Canada, and they came down by Fort Ticonderoga and Lake Champlain a number of times.
And this was an upsetting presence for the colonists.
And Benjamin Franklin, in particular, representing Pennsylvania and a number of the other colonies, lobbied the British government very intensively to get the French out of there.
And so, eventually, the Seven Years' War began.
It was conducted in part in India and in part in Europe, but also very much in North America.
And the British won the Battle of the Plains of Abraham and expelled the French from Canada.
But in doing that, they practically doubled their national debt.
And the British government then, after the Seven Years' War, after 1763, said, look here, we're imposing a stamp tax in the British Isles, but you Americans are the wealthiest people in the British Empire.
You have a higher standard of living than we do.
And you asked for this.
And we spent the money, and we did what you asked, so we expect you to help us pay for it.
And it was at that point that the theory of no taxation without representation was raised, and the Americans said, well, no, you can't just impose a tax on us.
We don't approve of that.
If the British had had the good sense to say, we'll get this war going with the French, all right, but we expect you to pay your share of it, the Americans would have accepted that, but they didn't do that.
Look, I'm not suggesting that the British played it well, but as a practical matter, the real issue was taxation.
Now, I will also agree that eventually the Americans were going to adjust the relationship, but if it hadn't been for that tax issue, The adjustment would have been a gradual one, and need not have come to violence at all.
It could just as easily, in fact more easily, have been a rebalanced relationship where they were effectively equal parties, but within the same overall jurisdiction, which incidentally would have meant there would not have been a World War I. If you had the United States combined with the British Empire, it would have been so powerful an entity in the world, nobody would have challenged it.
Yeah.
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We're going to get very geo-strategic and national security oriented.
The state of the current military in the United States is woeful, thanks in part to the politicization of all the branches under the leadership, not just of Joseph Biden, but also the current chairman, the outgoing chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Mark Milley, who just said this about Politics and the uniform.
You thought about resigning.
You did not.
I thought at the time, it was a consideration of mine, but several people counseled me, and they reminded me that an officer, a commissioned officer, resigning is the consummate political act, and that it's our obligation to stay out of politics.
And if I were to resign, then that would be a grave mistake, and it would be putting the uniform even more into politics.
So, resigning would have been political.
Walking across Lafayette Square with the President and then apologizing for it wasn't a political act, nor was his calling General Li in Beijing to give him a heads up to say, if my boss, the President, declares war on China, don't worry, I'll give you fair warning.
That likewise wasn't political.
All of these things aren't just about one man.
It seems as if we are behind technically and technologically in some very serious issues.
Your latest piece out now at the New York Sun concentrates on the threat of hypersonic weapons.
Will you give us a little briefing on how serious this issue is?
Conrad.
We lost Conrad.
The line is open, but I don't see him.
Jeff, will you reconnect with Conrad?
In the meantime, let's take a call.
John, New Jersey, line 2.
Hey, Dr. G. Hey.
I had a comment about one of your callers yesterday.
Yes.
The woman called and she was saying that men should be, you know, partly to blame for women getting abortions.
Yep.
It takes a male to get a woman pregnant.
It takes a man to be a leader, especially as a Christian.
You know, we're called to lead the women and lead the family.
So I think, you know, yes, as much as a man could convince a woman to get an abortion, a strong man could convince a woman to do the right thing.
Yeah, absolutely right.
Absolutely right.
Thank you, John.
Thank you.
You're absolutely right.
Couldn't agree more.
Lord Black, I played the cut of General Milley, talking about his definition of politics.
It seems that if politics has meant that we are behind, not just when it comes to strategy, but also technology.
Your latest piece in the New York Sun is about hypersonic weapons.
Could you tell us the nature of the problem?
Well, we just, in the United States, we just didn't take it seriously, it appears.
And I understand this up to a point.
Defense budget was heavily concentrated in anti-terrorism activity, which is of course a long way away from sophisticated intercontinental missiles.
But meanwhile, we just didn't, I'm using the alliance we now, that applies to the British and the French, but they don't have defense budgets like the U.S.
does, or the technological capabilities the U.S.
has.
But our alliance, Just sat there while the Chinese and the Russians quite properly develop these weapons that go from 5 to 15 times the speed of sound and are terribly hard to intercept for obvious reasons.
And they go on a lower arc.
They go so quickly, you have to loop them right up into the stratosphere and bring them down again.
So they get there doubly quickly and they don't need as much fuel.
They're lighter rockets that move faster anyway.
that we don't really have a defense against them and in particular the
the nimitz class aircraft carrier these huge aircraft carriers
uh... most of them named after presidents of the u.s. like eisenhower
and theodore roosevelt and uh... reagan and so on and uh... they don't uh...
uh... you know that they're very vulnerable They're a little bit as vulnerable in the way that the battleships were at Pearl Harbor.
They're kind of easy targets.
They're very large ships, and they're not heavily armored ships.
So we have a vulnerability there.
And obviously, the U.S.
has a great deterrent power.
The foreign potential adversaries know that if they attack the United States with nuclear
weapons, they're apt to receive a—in fact, they would receive a nuclear reply that they
couldn't defend against.
But we're back to mutual assured destruction.
And President Reagan put us on the path to an anti-missile defense, and the Chinese and
the Russians have eluded that.
Now, again, the United States is trying to catch up, and I'm sure it will catch up, but in the meantime, we have a missile gap, to take a phrase from the late Eisenhower years.
It's probably before your time, Sebastian, but, you know, when the Russians launched a satellite before the Americans did, there was a fear the Russians were ahead of the US.
So what is to be done, to quote a certain communist from Moscow, what is to be done about this gap, this ever-increasing gap?
Well, first of all, we have to catch up in terms of the efficiency and effectiveness of our own weapons.
Now, we can do that, but it's apparently going to take a few years.
Secondly, we've got to redouble our efforts to build, you know, to expand anti-missile defense to include some capability to shoot these missiles down.
Now, it's like trying to shoot a bullet with another bullet.
It's not easy, but on the other hand, Reagan started us out on that laser-based interception system.
Now, it doesn't work as well with a hypersonic missile, not only because they're so fast, but because they have a low arc and they don't get up, you know, well up into the stratosphere, where they're comparatively easy targets.
You know, they only go about, you know, the altitude of, you know, the military aircraft, something like that.
Well, I think this would be a perfect project.
This could be the moonshot equivalent of a second Trump administration to get serious on hypersonic weapons.
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But I'd been thinking about it, you know.
I mean, I sort of follow defense things, and it is mentioned sometimes.
And, you know, what really bothered me was, I mean, I could never stand Milley anyway.
I mean, from that day of, you know, walking in the entourage over to the church and coming back, and then publicly denouncing the president whom he served and who did him the great honor of promoting him to that position, I thought he should have been court-martialed then, but he just got worse and worse, and his statement at the outbreak of the Ukraine war, the Russians would get Kiev within a week, and the whole country within three weeks, I mean, I don't know how this guy has any credibility at all.
Well, and all those ribbons, that chest full of North Korean ribbons, it's just, it's laughable.
Well, as I've mentioned in print a number of times, He has more ribbons than habitually were worn by the combination of Dwight Eisenhower, George Marshall, and Douglas MacArthur.
They normally only had one row or two of ribbons on their uniforms.
If they wanted to deck themselves completely, they could do it, but I don't recall that ever being done.
They just had a few things, including their Medal of Honor in MacArthur's case.
You know, if you're a serious general, you don't have to do that.
They were five-star generals.
Yeah, that's a great line.
Good stuff.
Thank you, Conrad.
Okay, good.
God bless.
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Hi, Dr. G. Hey.
I've got something to say, but first, if I can, I've got an idea for a mug.
Go ahead.
What is your idea?
So on one side, Trump 2024.
Yep.
And on the opposite side, just put simply, I am an empty vessel.
The same way that the sanctimonious called us empty vessels.
Ooh!
Yeah, I get it.
The empty vessels comment.
Empty vessels, fill it, please.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, that's a good idea.
It's good.
It's a little subtle.
I had to think about that for a second because I forgot what DeSantis had called all of us.
But let me ponder that.
What's your main point, George?
It's easy to forget.
I know, I know, I know, I know.
But it's DeSantis' version of the deplorables from Hillary.
What's your next point?
So I don't think we should impeach Joe Biden.
Why?
Because I think we're doing the Democrats a huge favor by removing him.
We should just let them run him.
All the gaffs that you're playing just prove my point even further.
He's a blithering idiot.
There is no way that even his own people that voted for him can even look at me in the eye.
I talk to these people every day.
Oh really?
Tell me what happens.
I need to know.
So what do you say to them and what is their reaction, George?
Oh, my favorite thing to say is the same thing as Donald Trump says.
Do you miss him yet?
And they just look at me like, really?
Yes, really.
Who are these people?
Are these colleagues, friends, neighbors?
Who do you do this to, Georgian?
How many friends do you have left?
You can probably tell by my accent.
I'm a former New York liberal.
Oh, I could tell you're a New Yorker, but you were a former Lib?
Yeah.
Okay, I love to ask this question.
What happened?
When did you come over to the good side?
Thomas Sowell.
It's old friends, friends that I have, people that I know voted for Biden.
And there's only one of them left that even says that I don't even know if I could vote for Trump.
And other people are just looking at me like, I think I would have to vote for Trump this time.
And I'm like, yeah, that's what I was telling you last time, bro.
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Los Angeles, what do you have for us today, Brent?
Hello, great and sagacious Gorka.
One of my favorite words.
Give us some of your sagacity, Brent.
Well, two weeks ago, you were totally right when you disagreed with my desire to invite Robert Kennedy Jr.
into President Trump's next administration.
I went to see him last Friday at the Wilshire E Bell Theatre in Los Angeles.
Oh, tell us.
Well, for me, he flashed his socialist leanings, so he's clearly not trustworthy.
What did he say?
Tell us what he said to you in front of witnesses.
Well, it was his economic policies, how he wants the government so involved.
But I think more about the environment, the whole climate con with him.
And, you know, he's unsure about the trans world and everything else.
And so, he's really a loose cannon.
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Look at that jacket.
That's the got it.
It's got it.
That's a clown suit.
He got that at the clown thrift store.
I got, uh, Kyron's gonna say to him, I wanna... Transportation committee.
Garrett Graves?
Louisiana.
Never heard of him.
It blows my mind when there's a congressman, you know, senator you've never heard of.
Who's the other guy?
Is that Kiwi Herman's little brother?
What is that?
What is that?
I didn't even know we could do that!
We could put the stream on the thing, we could have fun in the breaks.
That makes it worth it.
He's got one of Charles Payne's jackets from when he was a child.
It's like when he was a 10 year old.
What is that?
This is so weird on so many levels.
It's like, is he the ventriloquist dummy?
Has he got his hand up his shirt?
What is going on?
Wait for it, wait for it.
The name reveal and... One, two... Jared Moskowitz.
He's from Florida.
Democrat!
Of course.
That suit... No wonder he's so short.
Who would, who would... Look, come on guys.
Who would actually pay money for that suit?
Jeff, would you like that suit?
Would you wear that suit?
No.
He just, he didn't even bother putting his headset on.
He just mildly shook his head on camera.
That's what he did.
Alright, we've got to do some Fetterman cuts.
We've got plenty of those.
Just numerically, or what do we want to... No, no, no, I'm not interested in the empty G one.
We'll do 9 and 10 and I'll tee them up.
Mr. G, may I impose upon you to put your headphones on?
Yes.
Thank you.
Rob Maga in the chat says, they have guys on as an expert that we've never ever heard of.
That's good.
That is completely right.
I'm an expert.
You've never heard of me, but I'm an expert.
Trust me.
Imagine being members of the most powerful legislature in the world and nobody knows who you are.
And wearing that jacket.
And the height difference.
Like, come on, give him a phone book to stand on or something.
I know!
Give him an Apple box to stand on, please.
I almost feel bad for him, but then he's a Democrat, so I'm like, yeah, okay.
No, not allowed.
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Behave.
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I don't know what's happened, whether they've rewired his brain, but Federman is very happy about the fact that... Did you know this?
Unbelievable.
They've changed the rules of the Senate.
Yeah.
The Democrats have said you don't need to wear a suit and tie.
You don't have to wear one.
You can wear a hoodie.
You can wear your tracksuit.
And this is Federman's response.
Cut nine.
So hang on, I'm confused there.
Jeff, did he just admit that he dresses like a slob?
Of course he did.
So he's that clever that he actually says he's a slob?
Like I said, aren't there more important things we should be talking about rather than if
I dress like a slob?
So hang on, I'm confused there.
Jeff, did he just admit that he dresses like a slob?
Of course he did.
So he's that clever that he actually says he's a slob?
I think he's proud of it.
Wow.
He also has some strange... I guess his brain hasn't been really fixed.
This is the continuation of that interview.
Cut, 10.
Yeah, you know, like, I truly, I was very proud of my colleagues, you know, because they're really about governance.
That's what it is.
And on the other, the House, the whatever they call themselves, Team America or whatever they call themselves, I just like, hey, I just like, bring your vote, you know, otherwise, you know, they need to go hump a different leg.
Eric, what does that mean?
The Republicans need to hump it.
Do they think they're humping his leg?
I'm confused.
I can't even begin.
I don't even have anything clever to say to that.
I can't think of anything, just because that makes no sense.
It was so out of left field at the very last second.
Like, the Team America thing was one thing, but then suddenly, hump a leg.
I'm like, okay, I didn't have that on my bingo card.
Jeff, you look really serious.
Do you understand what hump the other leg means?
I have no idea, but I do like his new mustache look.
It just makes him look more ridiculous.
He looks even more like a felon.
All right, let's have some fun with some potential felons, people who want to undermine the First Amendment.
I got an email from a bunch of propagandist hacks.
This is from the company What happened to my screen there?
Thank you.
It's called NewsGuard, and it's from one of the... There you go.
NewsGuard!
Transparent, accountable trust ratings for thousands of news outlets from people who really aren't working for the Democrat Party or US Cyber Command.
Oh, they are.
This is the email I received from one Mackenzie Sadighi.
Here's her LinkedIn.
She's a senior analyst at NewsGuard.
Which is weird because I guess she's so much of a liar she's actually lying on LinkedIn because here on her signature block on her email this morning it says she's just an analyst.
So are you lying on LinkedIn?
Or have you been demoted?
She's demanding that we explain some of the videos on our website because otherwise we might be rated as unreliable.
Oh, really, Miss McKenzie?
Well, let's talk about this organization run by Steve Brill and Gordon Krovitz.
Here's our friend Alan Bakari from Breitbart.
Despite presenting itself as a fake news watchdog, NewsGuard's own founders have fueled false claims about major news outlets.
At the height of the 2020 election, NewsGuard co-founder Steve Brill stated on national television that he thought there was a high likelihood that the Hunter Biden laptop story was a, quote, hoax perpetrated by the Russians.
Oh really?
So you are Mr. Fake News then?
So you're making statements that you know to be lies?
And then you're adjudicating as to whether outlets like mine are to be relied upon?
NewsGuard advi- oh, it gets better.
NewsGuard advisory board member and Russiagate conspiracy theorist, an insane individual, look at his Twitter feed, retired Air Force General Michael Hayden.
Oh, don't forget, Obama's director of the CIA.
Of course he's on the board of NewsGuard!
Of course you're going to have a former CIA flunky who worked for Obama on the board of Independent NewsGuard, signed on to an open letter making the same claim, and has yet to retract it.
Hayden remains an advisor to NewsGuard.
Isn't that interesting, Miss McKenzie?
NewsGuard maintains a browser extension that can be added to Chrome and other browsers.
Once installed, NewsGuard quote, nutrition labels, oh doesn't that sound lovely, appear next to the links to news stories with a green label signaling the website is trustworthy and a red label signaling the opposite.
Fox News, Breitbart, Revolver, Rebel Media, get a red label.
Left-leaning outlets known for publishing uncorrected, misleading information, like downplaying the Hunter Biden laptop story, they get a perfect or near-perfect NewsGuard rating.
News sources that spread the Russiagate hoax, including the New York Times, the Washington Post, receive a green stamp of approval.
The organization has also been blasted by one of the top Republicans in the House,
Representative Jim Banks, who ordered the Pentagon to preserve documents related to a,
wait for it, $750,000 contract the Pentagon awarded to NewsGuard to study misinformation.
Oh, we can guess what kind of misinformation that was.
They're also working with Cyber Command.
I wonder why.
The New York Times and the Washington Post both received a 100% rating from NewsGuard.
Ha!
Totally unbiased.
Totally unbiased.
In congressional testimony, recently, a superb individual, Michael Schellenberger, said the following.
Both the Global Disinformation Index and NewsGuard are U.S.
government-funded entities who are working to drive advertisers' revenue away from disfavored publications towards one they favor.
That's the bottom line, Miss McKenzie, Miss Debrilla!
And Gordon, you just want to attack conservatives and attack our advertisers because you're a bunch of biased left-wing hacks.
No, I'm not answering your questions because you're liars who work for the Pentagon and Cyber Command.
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Alright.
There's Jim's replacement on Fox.
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Jim who?
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He's got an advisory position now.
Now he's dialing back.
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Gavin Newsom, I think, wants to be the president, the replacement for Joe Biden.
And he gave a very puff piecey interview for CNN where he showed how well he can lie.
He said, abortion?
Well, no, no, no.
I'm not going to talk about late term.
And nobody wants to talk about that stuff.
That's just fake news.
Cut six.
Including Donald Trump, who just over the weekend accused Democrats of supporting abortion rights up to and after birth.
Can you be clear about... What does that mean, after birth?
Abortion, it's made up.
It's a political thing.
Can you just be clear about what limits on abortion should be?
It's a political thing.
People are not seeking abortion at the end of the cycle.
What is the policy?
What should it be?
The policy, it's not up to Donald Trump or me.
It's up to you, to women, that have to bear that responsibility uniquely and distinctively.
And the reality is it's a canard.
It's a political frame.
It's total BS.
Jeff, what?
He didn't answer the question, did he?
Of course not.
He's a Democrat.
Nice.
Um, I guess nobody said it.
Not like, uh, the former Democrat governor of Virginia.
Play card.
If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen.
The infant would be delivered.
The infant would be kept comfortable.
The infant would be resuscitated, if that's what the mother and the family desired.
And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.
So I think this was really blown out of proportion.
But again, we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions.
We want the decision to be made by the mothers and their providers.
And this is why, Julie, that legislators, most of whom are men, by the way, shouldn't be telling a woman what she should and shouldn't be doing with her body.
So the baby would be delivered if the abortion failed?
And then the mother and the doctor would have a discussion about what?
Whether you use a hammer or whether you use a knife to kill it, that man, that man was the governor of Virginia until recently.
And he's a pediatrician.
These people are sick.
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Phew, let's have a break.
Let's talk about some strategy for the next 14 months.
Colonel Kay Kerschlichter on deck.
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This may be a fruitless endeavor, but for the next hour with one of our good buddies and, uh, sometime guest hosts,
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I know, I know, logic may be...
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But we need to analyze what's going on.
I just call him Colonel K. Crazy Colonel Kurt Schlichter.
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He's the author of a slew of books.
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Kurt, welcome back to America First.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka, and thank you for pushing my book.
I've got to say, in all objectivity, it's perhaps the third greatest book ever written by human beings.
After my first two?
Then your two, which I count as one.
Now mine's number three.
All right, never let it be said that this man lacks humility.
That is such a lie.
I know we can't get it yet, but I just love Love, love, love the copy, the imagery, the cover artwork.
It's at the top of my Twitter feed for the up-and-coming book.
Your graphic design and your artist is superb.
When can they expect the latest installment?
When will that drop, Kurt?
Well, Sean Salter is the author, Salty Hollywood, and everybody should go buy his stuff.
He's got comics and things that are great.
October 1st, which is a Sunday because I control the distribution.
It doesn't come out on a Tuesday.
You'll be able to get it and just curl up with the insanity.
It's the longest of the books.
I think it's got some of the best cameos.
Maybe by a certain doctor with a deep voice.
I don't know!
Who knows what happens in this book?
Wow, yeah, so you see this is how he forces you to buy.
He says, maybe you're in the book and now I have to buy the book.
So okay, dude, I'm gonna buy it October 1st.
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Let's use your legal prowess.
Very successful lawyer, the man that won the case against the Clockboy.
If you don't remember what the Clockboy is, look it up after the show.
But I don't think Jesse Waters is a lawyer by training.
I think he went to the same college as my daughter, but last week at the beginning of the five, he addressed the question of evidence.
Is there any evidence when it comes to what the Bidens have done?
And I think he did the next couple of minutes Off the cuff extemporaneously.
I looked at his pupils and I don't think he was reading a teleprompter.
Kurt, I was impressed, but hey, I'm just a layman, so tell me what you think.
Here's Jesse Waters on The Five a few days ago.
So Putin's billionaire buddy wires the Biden family $3.5 billion, and then they sit down for dinner with Joe Biden, and then Biden leaves her off the sanctions list.
Twice!
Right there you could open an impeachment inquiry.
Or how about when Joe Biden flies his son to China, he comes back with a bucket of cash, and then gets on the, hey guys, you better pay up the rest or my dad's gonna get revenge on you.
And what do you know, Joe Biden starts writing the communist Chinese guy's daughter's recommendations to get into Brown.
And then they grease the regulatory process so the Chinese can buy an American car company.
Oh yeah, and then Hunter gets that diamond for about $75,000 that he lost.
Because if Malia Obama got a diamond and then President Obama went soft on the country that gave it to him, I'm sure that would not be a big deal at all.
And then who else do we have?
We have Biden flies his son down to Mexico City, Hunter meets with the President of Mexico and Carlos Slim, comes back with money and then complains, guys, I've gotten all of your clients into the White House to meet with my dad and you haven't paid me a dime, where's the cash?
They can't answer those three situations.
So I can't wait till they have to answer about the burner phones, the 20 shell companies, or Joe Biden on a voicemail saying, son, I read the Times piece about your shady deals in China.
You're in the clear.
Now, how would he even know if he was in the clear if he didn't know what his son did?
And how do you not know what your son did if you call your son every day for the last 20 years?
Hey, son, how'd you get the Porsche Panorama?
Hey, son, where'd you get all the money to take me to St.
Croix eight times in a row?
Did you know that the Bidens vacationed in St.
Croix, notorious tax shelter, eight seasons in a row?
I mean, Joe didn't pay for that.
That money was coming from Hunter or from Jimmy.
And Jimmy was putting his brother up in a nice Naples resort that he purchased right off the coast.
Who paid for that?
Jimmy's a scam artist.
He doesn't do anything.
And then all of a sudden, well, he didn't do anything to return the money.
Well, he didn't pop the Chinese spy balloon, cover it up for the lab leak.
He's been covering up for all the countries that have been paying his family.
So they're going to have to answer for all of this.
There's a mountain of evidence that they can't confront, and they keep on saying this is the best thing that's ever happened to the Biden White House.
I don't think Joe Biden believes it.
Kurt, don't you hate it when you lose the diamonds the Chinese businessmen give you?
Well, if there's so many that you lose count.
I know impeachment isn't, you know, a court proceedings.
I know it's a political function.
And even if we say conviction in the Senate, it's not like a court.
It's not a court of law.
But would you just address this question of evidence justifying an impeachment inquiry against the Bidens, Kurt?
Well, let me throw my lawyer hat on for a second.
Evidence has a very specific meaning.
Evidence is anything that proves or tends to prove a matter at issue.
That's all it is.
Now, you don't have to believe all the evidence.
And in fact, in every trial I've done, people have put on evidence against mine.
People have attacked my evidence.
But the existence of evidence It is obvious, and Jesse just went through it now.
Is it all direct evidence?
That is, I watched Joe Biden take a bag with a dollar sign from a guy dressed like the Hamburglar and shake his hand and say, I'm going to help Russians run rampant through our society.
That would be direct evidence.
Circumstantial evidence is Hey, you got a whole bunch of money from somewhere, and suddenly you did some other things that helped the guys who gave your kid the money.
Huh.
Sometimes circumstantial evidence is the very best kind of evidence.
And people, again, I'm not a lawyer, but people go to prison based upon circumstantial evidence when it's enough to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt, correct?
Circumstantial evidence is not a different category of evidence under the law.
It is perfectly legitimate, and in your experience and my experience, if we heard a bank alarm go off and a guy walked out with a sack with the money, okay, that's direct evidence.
If you saw the dude lurking around the bank, Heard there was a bank robbery, then a few hours later saw him with a stack of money on the table.
You've got some circumstantial evidence that perhaps he's the guy with the bank robbery.
And then this idea, because you also live in the political world, this idea that, you know, the Democrats are saying, well, there's no evidence.
I mean, do they really think that there's going to be a fax that that's written to Xi?
Dear Xi, give me the money and then I'll be nice to China.
Signed, Joe.
Is that what we're waiting for, Kurt?
Well, of course not.
Now, look, one of the things I do a lot is defend companies accused of fraud or bring suits about fraud.
It's very well known.
It's all through the legal literature.
There's very few opportunities, there's very few times when you'll prove fraud by direct evidence.
There are very few times when someone goes, yeah, I misrepresented something to him in order to have him rely upon it to be damaged.
It doesn't, that doesn't happen.
You prove it with circumstantial evidence.
So the idea that, you know, all these circumstances somehow don't add up to evidence, You have to wonder whether those people are stupid or they think their audience is stupid.
Bingo.
Bingo.
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Kurt, let's look at what's happening to the man who is the current leader of the opposition, my former boss, President Trump.
God bless Julie Kelly.
She actually goes to the courtrooms, witnesses the weaponization of federal government, of
the judiciary, and has written the book on January 6th, has her substack unclassified
with Julie Kelly.
And last time she was on my show, she talked about being in the courtroom listening to
President Trump's lawyers do battle with Judge Chutkan.
And then she paid for the transcript of the proceedings, proceeded to post them on her
substack, and then I just read through them.
And I just have to like sanity check a couple of things in there.
So this federal judge, who had to recuse herself in a prior case involving Kash Patel because she had worked with Fusion GPS, The company that, yeah, yeah, when she when she represented Ferranos as a lawyer at the Bose, the Bose Flexner law firm where Hunter Biden was her colleague, Judge Chodkan hired Fusion GPS.
Which is the same company that peddled the dodgy dossier on, you know, Russia collusion.
So Kash Patel, former DOJ prosecutor, managed to get her recused off that case.
But strangely, she's not recusing herself now, despite the fact that she's the judge in the case against President Trump and her former law partner was Hunter Biden, who's the current incumbent's son.
Anyway, there's a moment.
Where counsel Lauro, the president's new attorney, says to the judge, we'd really like to extend this case out till after the election.
Because we have 16 million pages of documents to read, we'd have to read 10,000 pages a day for this case to take place in October, as you wish.
Here's the response, and I know this is totally improbable, and if you don't believe me, just go and read, you know, the actual testimony or the actual court proceedings.
Judge Chugkan says the following, Kurt.
I'm not going to postpone this till after the election, because your client, Mr. Trump, should have known he was going to be indicted, heard that there was a secret grand jury, and should have been working with you to prepare for this case.
So, you know, the mystical ether, the soothsayer, should have told President Trump, yes, you will be indicted with these charges in two years' time.
You better hire some lawyers now.
In the history of legal practice, a judge saying you should prepare in advance before your charge for charges you don't know the nature of, it seems a little Stalinist to me.
No, it's a lot Stalinist.
Also, just putting yet another cherry on this cake, the fact that these are charges that have never been brought against anybody else.
Look, I know you know I'm a lawyer and you're asking me what my legal opinion is.
I don't have one because this isn't a legal proceeding.
It is unlike any case I've ever been a part of.
And of course, I litigate in the federal courts regularly.
The idea that she hasn't recused herself to me is completely mind-boggling.
I'm very happy about Lauro, president's counsel in this case.
I think he's—I've liked what I've seen from him.
I think he's starting to get aggressive with motion practice.
I think—I believe they just filed a motion to recuse her.
Let's stop there for a second and don't forget the thread because I don't want to interrupt you from the rest of what you have to say, but I had to... We were discussing this with my son and his friends at the weekend.
Isn't it the judge's decision as to whether they recuse themselves and step out?
And if they refuse to, as she has, what happens?
Does it go en banc?
Does it go to a higher level?
What options does somebody have when a clearly compromised judge says, no, I'm not recusing myself, Kurt?
What happens in federal law?
Well, look, in federal criminal law, which I don't do, I'm not sure there's a direct appeal from it.
It certainly becomes error.
Or a potential source of error for an appeal later.
The thing about criminal law, it's different than what I do, because I have more chances to appeal earlier.
In federal criminal law, they don't want everybody appealing everything.
So you really have to rely on the judge.
And if the judge's purpose is not to be a guardian of the law, but rather to execute a political hit, like say, Puget GPS did all the time, Then the problem is you may beat the rap, but you've got to take the rhyme.
I don't know if our courts of appeal are going to allow that to happen in this unusual case where you have the opponent, the political opponent, of the guy who's in charge of the prosecution, because if you're the president, you're the chief executive, and the prosecutors work for you, this seems like an unusual case, so we may be seeing unusual things.
The problem is bad cases make bad law.
It is a bad case on a million different levels, from the procedural insanity, to the substance of the charges, to the way they were brought.
You know, I like how they say, well, it's Trump's own fault he's facing prosecution.
You know, a month before this giant national election, where about half the American people may just want to vote for him.
It's been almost three years since the minor ruckus that was January 6th occurred.
They haven't had any problem prosecuting hundreds of other people.
Yes.
So why now?
Why are the charges now filed at such a time that the court case happens to land a month before the election?
This is a joke.
But not only that, the argument that now there's a sudden urgency and it has to be tried by October.
Well, hang on a second.
So why did you wait two and a half years?
Well, I mean, I guess Donald Trump's the only guy who had to move quickly, you know, before the charges are actually filed against him.
And again, these are charges that have never been filed against anybody else in the history of ever.
Yeah.
So he's supposed to somehow tune into whatever weird voices Jack Smith is hearing.
Because it is weird, and he's supposed to figure it out, then he's supposed to start getting the lawyers at a grand an hour, going over millions of pages of documents whose relevance he doesn't know yet.
Right.
Before he's been charged with everything, anything.
Right.
Are you kidding me?
Is that a joke?
I mean, look, this is so far off from normal Court practice.
To me, I look at it and the whole thing is alien to me.
But my whole country is becoming alien to me, Dr. Gorka.
I mean, they're trying to prosecute a guy that millions of people want to be the next president.
I don't think there's any serious question that the prosecutions of Donald Trump are one of the gravest non-kinetic attacks, if not the gravest non-kinetic attack, on American democracy.
In the 250 years our country's been around.
Wow.
He's using War College lingo.
Non-kinetic.
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That they're, you know, charging and prosecuting on things that have never been charged before.
I want to drill down a little bit on that with regards to the recent convictions of the Proud Boys.
and this seditious conspiracy charge, which comes out of the Civil War,
and which has never been used in the modern age.
And if you read the charge sheets and go through the court proceedings,
it is stunning. Again, it is Kafkaesque, it's Stalinist, that we're talking about individuals who have been sent to
prison for 17, 18, 22 years, one of whom, who got the 22 years, wasn't in Washington, D.C.
on on January the 6th, and they're all found guilty of seditious conspiracy.
but when you read the documents it doesn't say seditious conspiracy to commit what crime what they are prosecuted of is sending spicy text messages to each other about yeah we're gonna crush them tomorrow literally you know no no weapons no explosives no you know assaulting a military facility taking down the white house it's it's conspiring on Well, look, what we have here is another case of the Trump exception.
Trump is apparently so dangerous to our norms and values and rules and our Constitution That we must abandon our norms, our rules, our values, and our constitution to stop him by any means necessary, which means locking up a bunch of guys who got in a ruckus that paled by comparison to some basketball celebration.
You know, I know what an insurrection looks like.
I was with a rifle in South Central during the L.A.
riots, okay?
So I don't need any lessons from these sissies.
You know, a bunch of guys yelling and screaming and pushing and shoving are suddenly going to destroy our democracy!
It's a lie and it's a scam.
It's designed to delegitimize any opposition to the establishment.
It is, you know, you have judges who are, I believe, are acting improperly in a venue where 95% of the people voted for The political enemy of the guys these accused like.
You have a regime media that's screaming for blood, and you have the comparison of similar and worse things occurring by leftists all over the country, killing people.
And remember, the only people killed in January 6th Well, I mean, the only one we know for sure was killed by a police officer for the crime of, I guess, crawling through a window.
But this is something that once, you know, it's out, this can't be squeezed back into the toothpaste tube.
But once you use, once you start sending people to prison for a generation for a crime that nobody can actually point at what the crime is, That's very dangerous, isn't it, in terms of using the law for purely political purposes?
Well, Dr. Gorka, your premise is that there is law.
Yeah.
And when you abandon it, there is no law, there's only power.
Yeah.
And if you look down to Atlanta, not to Fannie Willis, who's a complete joke, but to their Attorney General, he just used a RICO statute To prosecute a bunch of Antifa people who were attacking that police compound.
Unprecedented.
Well, until lately.
But now that's another tool in our toolkit.
The thing about January 6th, Dr. Gorka, is a conservative riot.
Has never, has been something that no one's ever seen before.
We don't know what one is because we don't do that.
They do that.
They're the ones who are going to get exposed to this.
They're the ones.
I've got to push back on that because it's got to be people of fortitude that actually do that.
And one case, I wish it were so, but I just don't see Republicans playing hardball.
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So, Kurt, you know, I love this idea that, you know, they open the Pandora's box and what's good for the, you know, sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
I don't buy it.
I mean, if that were true...
I would have seen in the last three years some sheriff, some local guy in Nevada, in Arizona, in California, come to D.C.
and charge Alejandro Mayorkas, the secretary for the Department of Homeland Security, with aiding and abetting the cartels.
You know, were that it were true, but do you really think that the good guys have the wherewithal to fight as seriously as the bad guys?
Well, let's break that down a little.
Yes.
Because now, not only is it survival, but there's another incentive.
The first guy to do it is going to get a lot of attention.
The second guy to do it is going to do it because he wants him to.
There is a political reward for being highly aggressive.
And you've got to understand, a lot of these people are themselves getting burned.
Do you think Ken Paxton is going to feel very sensitive or caring or compassionate about his opponents right now after what he got put through?
I don't.
And I'm not saying it's good or bad or whatever.
I'm saying it's human nature.
I'm saying that when your back is put up against the wall, some people are going to curl up into the fetal position.
Other guys are going to start throwing fists.
So I think we are going to see more of it.
And remember, the thing is, a lot of it's nonsense.
I mean, this kind of lawsuit, this kind of prosecution, it's ridiculous in a legal sense.
And I think it would be, you know, I would certainly think it would be interesting to see a bunch of leftists being charged with, oh, I don't know, violating the First Amendment rights of people in, say, the great state of Texas by working with Social media companies to not allow them to speak freely in violation of the First Amendment I mean, you know if Kenny Paxton wants to roll out charges against Fauci and all the rest of the guys who Collaborated with old Twitter and Meta and all the rest of them, you know.
Oh Well, well, we'll see we'll see if that ever happens in the meantime Doesn't The legal system, qua legal system, as a system, doesn't it demand radical reform?
I look at these judges and they seem to have too much power.
A former judge, Louis Gohmert, was on the show last week.
He said they're actually answerable to Congress.
People have to read the Constitution.
Judges must behave properly according to the U.S.
Constitution and as such should be sanctioned by that body if they don't.
They seem to be kings out of control.
Is there not a need for a radical reform of our legal system, Kurt?
I think what we need is a radical reform of our people.
Remember, the Constitution sets up this system, and it was not created for an immoral, Self-serving, disgraceful people.
Now, it assumed that those things were going to happen.
That's why you had checks and balances.
But certain positions, like prosecutors and judges, were given a lot of authority without a lot of the kind of oversight and checks and balances other folks have because they thought, look, Some folks are going to step up and do the right thing.
You can always impeach someone, throw them out.
Of course, the last judge we impeached got elected to Congress afterwards as a Democrat.
So there you go.
The problem is, if you have people who are only interested in power, they are going to degrade the system such that everybody is going to have to drop to that level.
Now, My feeling is, just tell me what the rules are, and we're gonna play by them.
And you're probably not gonna like how that works out.
Because I don't think the rules are there to protect guys like us.
I think they're there to protect weak people, people who can't do push-ups, people who, you know, don't know violence.
Because we can either have a system where you solve things through politics,
Right.
or a system where you solve it through force.
And at the end of the day, force is a bunch of guys kicking down your door with rifles.
Right.
Who should be behind those rifles?
I neglected to ask you at the top of the show, the latest completely abhorrent decision,
the gag order against President Trump.
Can you talk to us about the gag order against the leader of the opposition during a presidential campaign?
You know, at some point I've got to stop being shocked.
At some point, you know, I just feel stupid going, well, I can't imagine that, because I absolutely can't.
These are people who will attempt to make the case that we should gag a guy who is in the lead in the Republican primaries right now, and we should make it so he can't talk about the political system that's attacking him right now.
Because the important thing is these charges that couldn't have been brought three years ago.
Hundreds of other people were prosecuted three years ago.
Nobody should be surprised.
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The president in an interview yesterday or at the weekend rather said that Bring it!
Let's have a government shutdown.
There are others, Matt Gaetz, saying that's how you stop the perversion of the judiciary.
Use the government shutdown to shut down people like Jack Smith at the DOJ.
What is Kurt Schlichter's take, Colonel Kaye's take, on the political choice of to effect or not to effect a government shutdown?
I don't think the average American would miss it if the government shut down for about six months.
Do you?
No, I certainly don't think so.
But look, you and I both like to think ahead.
We like to employ strategy, if you will.
I'm not sure what Kevin McCarthy's strategy is right now.
Now, he's handled a few things pretty well so far.
He's managed to get himself a named speaker, but that's pretty remarkable.
He's got a lot of wild cards in his caucus, so to speak.
What's his plan?
What is the plan?
You shut down the government.
What is your plan for convincing normal Americans it's a good idea?
Because I haven't heard word one about it.
And a lot of Americans are going to hear, shut down the government?
That sounds bad.
And you better have a good explanation.
You're going to have the regime media against you.
You're going to have the performance art of like, you know, putting the sawhorses around the World War II monument.
You know, that kind of nonsense.
What's the plan?
And the second part is, is everybody in on it?
Have you talked to Matt Gaetz?
Have you talked to the Squishes?
Because when you've only got yourself a five-vote majority, you've got to get everybody on board.
And that's what a leader does.
A leader doesn't get to choose.
No commander ever got to choose his force.
All right, you get the guys assigned to you.
He's got these guys assigned to him.
How's he going to do it?
I would like him to go in with a plan and not stumble, bumble, and eventually give in and capitulate.
Because we've seen that many times before.
I don't know if this is within the bounds of Uh, loyally ethic, so let's just stay in the political arena.
Looking forward, it looks like he is the man.
He's between 40 and 60 points ahead, so it looks like he will be the nominee.
The nice thing about, the delightful thing about the people we're facing, Kurt, is They may be devious, they may be cunning, they may be soulless invertebrates, but they're actually stupid and they haven't read the Constitution and there's no, um...
Other requirement apart from being 35 a natural-born citizen and 14 years a resident of the United States for you to be a president.
You can be in an orange jumpsuit and still be the president.
So they're actually cretins.
They can arrest him and put him in prison.
You can still be elected president.
What is your advice politically?
Should President Trump be the nominee for the next 14 months?
How does he play it?
I always tell my listeners support the man.
He must be hemorrhaging a million dollars a week in lawyers fees.
so that you know the website we put up is DonaldJTrump.com but in terms of how to play it
because you are a strategic thinker, you know the war college mindset,
if you are thinking strategically, what would you like to see come out of Mar-a-Lago
that maybe you're not seeing at the moment?
The problem is, Donald Trump is a really good strategist on our,
Look, I criticize he's made some mistakes, but this guy has a sense for what he's doing.
He's certainly in the lead in the primary against some very talented people.
And, you know, the idea that you don't get to pick and choose Donald Trump.
When people go, I love Donald Trump.
I love his economy, I love he kept us out of wars, made America great again, but those mean tweets, if you just get rid of the mean tweets, if you get rid of the mean tweets, you don't have Donald Trump.
Bingo.
It's all, he's one thing, and you can't just have the parts of Donald Trump.
It's not, Donald Trump is not a smorgasbord, he's not a Swedish buffet.
Bingo!
Right?
I want the meatballs, but not the herring!
That's not how it works!
So the idea that I go, OK, Mr. President, here's what I think you should do.
You should, you know, not talk about Rosie O'Donnell.
You should stop giving people nicknames.
That's not Donald Trump!
And he'd look at me like I was insane, which, you know, if I was advising Donald Trump, I probably would be insane, because I'm used to people who listen to my advice.
And Donald Trump doesn't listen to anybody but Donald Trump, which sometimes is a weakness and sometimes is an incredible strength.
You know, if you want an example of that, look at moving the embassy in Jerusalem to the capital of Israel.
Everyone told him it's a terrible idea.
He said, nah, I kind of like it.
I said I was going to do it and I'm going to do it.
Now get done.
And it was amazing.
It was tremendous.
But there are other times where he took advice that wasn't great.
I mean, so I don't want to dodge the question.
It just never occurred to me.
No, no, it's a really good point.
And it's like, you know, when people tell me, what would you advise the president?
I advise him on, you know, policy stuff, not on style stuff, because, you know, He asked me and Steve Bannon to advise him on killing the Iran deal and we He did it and we're proud he did it But we didn't tell him how to deliver that because guess what?
If you're Donald Trump, you've got a style that you've been delivering things for about 50 years and that's your style and it's The mean tweets are part of why he was elected in 2016.
So guys guys You gotta eat the meatballs and the herring.
That's all that Kurt's saying.
Okay, the latest book is... I think it's a perfect wrap.
The latest book is Inferno.
I think it's number seven in the Kelly Turnbull series.
The next one is going to be imminently.
And look at that cover.
Wow.
Royal.
No, no, no, no.
Roman senatorial purple.
Overlord.
Can't wait for that to drop.
We'll have him back on the show when it is available.
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