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	This is America First with Sebastian Borca.
	Personal anecdotes that allow me to segway.
	Why is that word pronounced segway?
	It's very strange.
	It's written segouy.
	I'm confused.
	That allow me to transition into something that's not personal.
	Well it is, but it's also It's about the nation.
	Greetings, friends.
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	Okay.
	So as usual, it's either 7-Eleven, dog walking, or the post office.
	Today was the post office.
	Little word of wisdom for you.
	If you're a male, if you're over the age of 16, and you feel combative, don't be a little girl.
	I decided to have words with an individual today who at high speed pulled into the car park in front of the post office as people were crossing the sidewalk and basically he was reckless.
	The car was coming in the opposite direction and he said, I'm gonna just gun it into the car park whilst there are pedestrians there.
	I don't like that.
	So when I parked my car, I went up to him in the post office, and I said, you're reckless with your actions.
	And he felt intimidated.
	OK, I'm a big guy, but so's he.
	He's about 50, 60 years old, a little overweight.
	What a small dude.
	It's not impressive to immediately find a woman in the waiting area and say, this man's intimidating me!
	Don't be a little female dog, okay?
	You're a man.
	Speak up for yourself.
	And if you can't justify your reckless behavior, try to do it.
	Or, better still, apologize.
	That's what men do.
	It's called accountability.
	It's called being a grown-up.
	It's called being a man.
	The segue is to a regime that takes no responsibility and is not filled with real men.
	We are continuing to remember what happened two years ago in Kabul last Saturday, where 13 Americans were murdered by ISIS, During the absolute, disastrous withdrawal and surrender of the Kabul International Airport and Afghanistan.
	A nation in which, over the last 20 years, Americans and our allies and our partners had bled.
	Gold Star families were in Washington DC yesterday.
	And they were talking about responsibility.
	About being a man, about taking responsibility for your actions.
	One of them is a gold star father who behaved with circumspection, observed the requisite protocols when his son's dead body was flown to America from Central Asia.
	And watched as the new Commander-in-Chief at the time stood there and half a dozen times looked at his wristwatch as the bodies of American dead were being solemnly transferred from a US military aircraft to the parents who were waiting for them and the loved ones who were there.
	That man is Mark Schmitz.
	He behaved on the tarmac back then, but yesterday, well, he unleashed righteous indignation.
	Let's listen to Gold Star Father, Mark Schmitz.
	You are a disgrace to this nation.
	You have no business having ultimate command over our military, and I regret not saying that to your face when I had the opportunity in Dover.
	I felt it more important to bite my tongue, but I also had more important things on my mind at that time, like receiving my son's lifeless body stateside.
	While I stood there on the tarmac, watching you check your watch over and over again, All I wanted to do was shout out, it's too f***ing 30!
	F***!
	But out of respect to the other grieving families, I bit my tongue once again.
	Well, as you can probably tell by now, I'm done biting my tongue.
	You sure stole their lives, their futures, their dreams, and have ripped apart 13 families.
	You cannot even man up and admit that.
	You, sir, gave us all the title Gold Star Family.
	You, sir, discredit honor and integrity.
	That's really the only reason a president exists, is to vouchsafe our safety, our security.
	And when 13 Americans are killed in uniform, you look at your watch, you piece of dirt.
	And it's not just you, Biden.
	It's your Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin, former board member of Raytheon.
	Now isn't that interesting?
	When asked by Congressman Jim Banks regarding the death of the 13, this is what that scumbag had to say.
	Cut five.
	But do you have regrets about the withdrawal from Afghanistan?
	I support the president's decision.
	Do you have regrets about their withdrawal or how the withdrawal occurred from Afghanistan that cost the lives of 13 of our service members?
	I don't have any regrets.
	You don't have any regrets?
	Secretary Austin, this is very telling.
	Secretary Austin, has there ever been any accountability for anyone within the Department of Defense for the deadly, botched, and embarrassing withdrawal from Afghanistan?
	Any accountability?
	Hey, listen, our troops evacuated 124,000 people off that airfield.
	Has anyone been held accountable?
	If a Navy captain grounded a ship, what happens immediately?
	Typically, that captain is removed.
	That captain is removed.
	Has anyone been held accountable for what happened in Afghanistan?
	To my knowledge, no.
	You don't regret it?
	No one's ever been held accountable?
	Mr. Chairman, this is why this Republican majority must provide the accountability that this administration wants to sweep under the rug with what happened in Afghanistan.
	A. Who the hell do you think you are, Lloyd Austin?
	You tell a member of the Oversight Body that controls you because we have civilian control in America.
	This isn't a military junta.
	You say, hey, listen, what kind of a punk are you?
	Hey, listen, who on God's earth do you think you are?
	Worse than that, you say, I have no regret.
	What kind of human being can't even fake it and say, yeah, I'm sorry, 13 Americans were murdered as I was Secretary of Defense?
	If you're not infuriated, if you're not doing something to get rid of these people and have Donald Trump win the next election and have Republicans and conservatives win every election down the ballot, then you're not a patriot either.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Who's this?
	Kenny?
	Hi Kenny, what's your question?
	Well, so here's the thing, right?
	The same debacle would have happened with Trump.
	Uh, if Trump was still in office, because the problem with the Afghan withdrawal... Oh, sod off, you dickhead!
	How is it that it didn't happen, you moron?
	How is it that for 18 months, not one American was shot by the Taliban?
	How can you be such an asshole as to make that comment?
	Shut up, you asshole!
	Apologize right now to the 13 dead families when you lie about the fact it would have happened under Trump.
	It didn't, you piece of shit!
	Explain yourself and apologize or get off the line!
	Get off the line, you scumbag!
	Go to hell!
	All right, oh There we go.
	Title for that uh that monologue He's something like lloyd austin's not a real man or
	something like that Bye.
	Yeah, that's good.
	Alright.
	Oh, and for the doctor.
	How to detoxify yourself from the vaccines.
	Good stuff.
	Yourself from the vaccines.
	I didn't hear it.
	Why?
	You didn't hear me ask him your question?
	No, no, no.
	Did he answer it?
	Oh yeah.
	He has a whole protocol on how you have to detoxify your body from all the spike proteins.
	McCullough protocol.
	Yeah.
	There's like four things, natural things you have to take to flush it out of your body.
	I saw that.
	Yeah.
	It breaks it down and then flushes it out before you get a heart attack, Jeff.
	I saw that on his website.
	But is he saying that people that haven't had symptoms or whatever should do that or?
	Yeah, it was like three batches.
	They said the first batch with like no symptoms.
	You're basically good or something Yeah, first he said you got to check what batch you took Right because each batch of the vaccine is different and there was one batch that had a lot of side effects Do you say anything about the shoulder Pain?
	Yeah, he said if the good batches, you didn't even have shoulder pain.
	You had nothing.
	Wonderful.
	Did you have pain?
	I had two shots.
	One shot, I had no pain.
	The other shot, I tore my rotator cuff in high school, playing baseball.
	This first shot, Within 10 seconds I had worse pain in my shoulder than that.
	I would stop taking these.
	I could not believe how bad my shoulder hurt and how quickly.
	30 seconds.
	How long did it last?
	About a half a day.
	But it started instantly.
	Wow.
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	But first things first, my colleague, my good friend at Newsmax, Greg Kelly, son of the former police commissioner in New York, he broke some news yesterday on his show and I have to comment on it.
	I'd like to hear your reaction.
	But I'm going to give you my take.
	This is the information that he teased yesterday.
	Cut 15.
	There is an audio tape, I am told, by people in the know, not necessarily in government, not necessarily out of government, I can't say too much, but there is incontrovertible evidence of Joe Biden's corruption that is about to be made public.
	It's not going to happen tomorrow, it's not going to happen before Labor Day, but it will happen sometime between Labor Day and Halloween.
	This tape will be made public.
	I'm not sure by what entity at this point, but once it is heard, Joe Biden will have, well, he'll have only two options.
	Number one, he will not be able to remain a candidate for the presidency for re-election.
	It will be over and done with.
	The only thing that he might be able to do, potentially, but probably not, is remain as president.
	So that is the so-called smoking gun that patriots have been waiting for, the evidence that Biden is corrupt, not just his son and the pseudonymous email messages and the phone calls to Hunter's business buddies in Kazakhstan, in Russia, in China, and you name it.
	It's an audio recording of, you know, Biden doing something that is a crime.
	Here's my problem with this.
	I have no doubt there's much more evidence out there.
	When you've been corrupt for 47 years, there's going to be a lot of evidence.
	If I were told of such information, but the information were not in my control, I wouldn't make any promises about it.
	Because it's not in my control.
	If it's in my control, Sure, I can tease it.
	I can say, you know, three weeks from now, three months from now, whatever.
	But if it's not in your control, what happens if it's not true or if the people who have it don't release it?
	Remember what Chuck Grassley said?
	We have the audio tapes!
	And then a week later he says, somebody told me there are audio tapes.
	I don't know if they exist.
	Sean Hannity did this for years.
	The TikTok, TikTok, TikTok.
	Nobody takes him seriously now.
	So, God bless our buddy, Greg.
	I believe him.
	But if he don't control it, what happens if the person who does, doesn't deliver?
	Let me ask somebody with a good political sense.
	Mr. G, your reaction to the promise provided by my buddy Greg?
	I hope it happens.
	Sure.
	The only thing I disagree with, even if you did have something that's a smoking gun, I still don't even think it would be enough.
	Because they would just ignore it.
	Yeah.
	You would have to bring it out in an impeachment where people were paying attention.
	That's the only way that it would work.
	And like, drop it suddenly.
	Yes, exactly.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	Eric, what do you think of TikTok, TikTok, TikTok?
	Yeah, like you said, the comparison to Hannity, it's a routine that's kind of gotten old these days, and if, especially if it's the result of an entity that he's, if he's not in control of it, if he's going to get this from another source, oh, what if his source suddenly pushes it back to now Thanksgiving or Christmas?
	Then he kind of looks, you know, he's Caught with egg on his face as a result of that.
	Right.
	Hopefully we will have it.
	We will see it.
	An October surprise, but it's not up to us, is it?
	Let's go to Klaus in California, line one.
	Hey, Dr. G. I'm glad you're back on your vacation.
	I hope you're having a good time.
	T-shirt idea.
	I know you get a lot of T-shirt ideas.
	Every day we get multiple T-shirt ideas, and some of them are actually good.
	What's yours, Klaus?
	Okay, so not to trivialize the tragedy of the 13 lives that were lost and the gold-starred dad, Schmidt, his pain, but here's my idea.
	So, on the front side of his shirt have a monochrome photo of Joe Biden looking at his watch.
	Uh-huh.
	And then right below it have, I'll call him Papa Schmidt, Papa Schmidt's quote saying it's two effing 30 a-hole and then on the back have the list of the 13 lives that were lost August 26, 2021.
	That's actually very good.
	I like that.
	My only issue is I'm not sure, I mean, you know, everybody like you, Klaus, and everybody who listens to this show understands the image of him looking at his watch on the tarmac.
	I'm not sure everyone, you know, all 74 million of the good guys get it.
	But let me think on that.
	I like that, Klaus.
	Let me think on that.
	Let's go to Jeff, Columbus, Ohio.
	Hey, Dr. G. Hey.
	Hey, just got something for ya.
	What is that?
	What are you in right now, buddy?
	I'm in my Freightliner.
	Love it, love it, love it.
	Where are you heading?
	I'm just sitting in a dock.
	Alright.
	Hey, everybody needs to see that old town hall joke.
	Telling how this is going to take forever to get out of Afghanistan.
	Otherwise they'd leave all the equipment for Yes.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Enemies, yeah.
	Yeah.
	But also, one other thing, quick t-shirt.
	Mm-hmm.
	ASPCA.
	Spay and neuter your pets, not your children.
	Oh, spay and neuter your pets, not your children.
	Good ideas.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Stay safe out there, Jeff.
	We love our truckers.
	We've got to get more calls from our truckers.
	What about our foreign calls, Jeff?
	We used to get calls from all over the place, right?
	Brazil.
	Where did we get?
	We got Middle East, Israel.
	We used to get an Ireland guy.
	Ireland!
	Yeah, where's our rugby coach from Ireland?
	You know the number.
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	We'll be back with, oh no, more of your course, cuts, and then Jim Jordan.
	That's Donika you were thinking of, the guy from Ireland.
	Donica, yeah.
	Yeah, the rugby guy.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Donica, call in!
	Alright, so we've done Greg... There's still the gold star, uh, the mother.
	The mother, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's cut four.
	Blame me six again.
	Six.
	Did you learn the lessons of Afghanistan?
	Are you applying them now?
	Well, first of all, to the point about the report you just mentioned, the President and I sitting here today do reject the reports in the Washington Post that the White House or the NSC sought to slow down the evacuation.
	This is a FOIA version of an Army report.
	From the President on down, it was the White House and the NSC pushing military leaders and diplomats day by day through those early days of August to say, should we begin the evacuation now?
	And as soon as, the minute, our military leaders and diplomats recommended to the President that he do so, literally that minute, he ordered the evacuation.
	And 13? 13.
	We are very clear.
	The court did not take away the ability to seek a diverse class, to educate a diverse class.
	The court did not speak to more than it did in the Harvard and University of North Carolina admissions practices.
	So it didn't address other issues and that leaves a very wide variety of available options still to make sure that We are educating diverse classes of students and that we not only bring them but we keep them and we graduate them and we prepare them and that they are our future.
	Incredible.
	Incredible Right 90 seconds
	I'll see you next time.
	I'm gonna play cut 7 here.
	7?
	You'll tee it up?
	What was it, like 3 weeks ago when the first one happened?
	Yeah, probably a month ago by now.
	That's so bad.
	Again, he's older than he looks.
	How old is he?
	I think he's in his 80s, let me check.
	I think he's about Biden's age.
	Yep, he's 81.
	Wow.
	Like 81 and a half now.
	Oh yeah, he's older than Biden.
	That's rough.
	I'm going to go get a new one.
	A man.
	A legend.
	A legal immigrant.
	Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	It's happened again.
	It's happened again.
	This individual is the leader of the Republicans in the Senate.
	Three weeks ago, four weeks ago, in the midst of a press conference, he completely had a brain freeze.
	Had to be walked off by Senator Barrasso and hidden.
	And to date, happened again in Kentucky at the Chamber of Commerce meeting.
	Asked a question, and it's like he just loses all mental faculties.
	This is, of course, Mitch McConnell.
	Play cut.
	What are my thoughts about what?
	running for reelection in 2026.
	That's right.
	Did you hear the question, Senator?
	I'm running for re-election in 2026.
	Alright, I'm sorry, you all.
	We're going to need a minute.
	Okay.
	Does somebody else have a question?
	Please speak up.
	That man should be in a home, he should be given mental and medical assistance.
	You can tell it's more than just his inability to say anything or suddenly freeze.
	When his staffer, when his security guy come up beside him and they say, are you alright?
	He doesn't even look at them.
	He can't turn his face, his head or his eyes to them.
	That's not normal.
	And, you know, pray for his health.
	But seriously, what is it?
	Is this the Dianne Feinstein of the Republican Party?
	This is just wrong.
	You're in a leadership position.
	You can't lead it.
	He is rigidly holding the podium, unable to talk to his staffers, let alone address the question as to whether he's going to run again.
	Well, of course he can't run again!
	He can't let go of the podium!
	It's absurd.
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	Alright, Sally, line one, Cleveland.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	I have an idea for a t-shirt.
	Why does everybody want to call in with t-shirt ideas?
	Well, my husband had this idea a while ago.
	So why isn't your husband calling in, Sally?
	He's not well right now.
	Well, we wish him the best.
	What is your husband's first name?
	Just his first name.
	John.
	John, all right.
	We are praying for John to recover speedily so he can share with us his ideas.
	But what did he share with you, Sally, as an idea for a merchandising item?
	Okay, this is regarding the criticisms leveled at President Trump by Snowflakes.
	So the t-shirt would say, better mean tweets than no eats.
	Better mean tweets than no eats.
	Oh, that is actually rather good.
	Stay on the line, my friend.
	We're going to send you and your lesser half, John, a signed copy of Defeating Jihad, because it's a statement of fact.
	Better mean tweets than no eats or very expensive eats.
	My son was on holiday recently on an island where, in America, the cheapest lobster roll they could find in Biden's America, sit down, $28 for a lobster roll.
	Yeah, I prefer the mean tweets.
	And a cheap lobster roll as well.
	We could have both.
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	Hey, good.
	Listen, are you on internet phone or real phone?
	No, I'm at my cousin's house.
	I'm on the landline.
	Oh, good.
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	No problem.
	No problem.
	That's all right, lad.
	Will you stay on the line?
	I'm going to talk to Congressman Jordan, and then we'll come to you.
	No, sure.
	I'm doing paperwork.
	I'm on the phone.
	No problem.
	All right.
	Talk to you in a sec.
	Thanks, buddy.
	Cheers.
	All right.
	Is the congressman there?
	Oh, Sebastian, how are you?
	Good, good, good, good.
	Good, thanks.
	I'm going to go ahead and get started.
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	Welcome back to America First.
	Good to be with you, Sebastian.
	Thanks for all you're doing.
	Well, I don't know what we can cover in the next few minutes, but let's start with... Do you have lots of anonymous email accounts that you've sent thousands of emails on?
	Yeah, when we talk to our kids, you don't need a pseudonym for your kids, for goodness sake!
	And one more piece of evidence that shows...
	What was going on here?
	You got the dinners, you got the phone calls, you got the meetings, you got the big issue when we had Devin Archer in, where in Dubai on December 4, 2015, Archer and Hunter Biden meeting with the head of Burisma, the two executives that run Burisma.
	They called D.C.
	Five days later, Joe Biden's in Kyiv, and he says to fire the prosecutor, critiques the prosecutor.
	We know all that.
	So just more evidence keeps piling up.
	That I think underscores what the speaker has said, Sebastian, which is that, look, if we've got to go to an impeachment inquiry phase of our oversight work, we're going to do that.
	And it sure looks like that's the direction we're headed.
	Right, well, God willing it'll happen in the fall of this year.
	Let's talk about the timing for the January the 6th trial of President Trump by Judge Tanya Chutkan.
	I have in front of me a Breitbart report written by our buddy Joel Pollack in accelerating this trial and saying that it has to occur earlier as opposed to sooner.
	Judge Chutkan, who worked with Hunter Biden for 12 years in the same law firm, compared January the 6th, Chairman, to the Boston Marathon bombing and September the 11th, which were trials that also happened in an accelerated fashion.
	Can you react to the concept of January the 6th being like 9-11 or the Boston bombing?
	Well, this is the left and the narrative they've adopted.
	Look, there were people who did things wrong on January 6th.
	They should be held accountable.
	But to compare to those things, I think the American people see that as just the way the left wants to frame this.
	We've tried to do investigative work and figure out, you know, what's happening with some of these January 6th defendants for the length of time they've had to wait for their trial.
	And yet, then you look at this indictment of President Trump, and they want to take him to trial on March 4th.
	uh... in in uh... in dc makes no sense i thought that uh...
	and he was a battle on the air someone where they said you know
	uh... they're indicted president robin and and uh... on election interference
	and their their the trial schedule is going to be interfering with an
	election effect this is how crazy it is
	but um... whether it's funny will it be what to go in october of this year
	whether it's uh... federal judge there dc who wants to go on March 4th of next year, the day before Super Tuesday, it just again underscores how this is all political and part of the left's attack on President Trump.
	And they're attacking him because he's fighting for us.
	On your Twitter account, I think it was yesterday, Jim underscore Jordan, you actually made a list of everything the DOJ and the FBI has done to undermine rule of law in America.
	And I retweeted it and I said, OK, let's defund them.
	What options do you and the Republicans with the power of the purse have?
	Can there be a targeted defunding of the most egregiously political elements of the federal government?
	Yeah, we're committed to making sure the FBI and the DOJ get less money.
	We're committed to making sure they don't get a new headquarters dollars for that.
	We've been focused on that.
	And then putting language in the appropriations bill that also limits what they can do with your tax dollars.
	No money, as an example, no money at the Department of Homeland Security can be used to set up a disinformation board.
	No money can be used in any way to coerce organizations to censor American speech.
	Those are the kind of language we're putting.
	Plus, Senator Paul and I are working on legislation that we've introduced Which says, if you're involved in censoring Americans, like the Biden administration was doing, if you're involved in that and you're working the federal government, you lose your job, you could lose your pension, and you could be subject to civil penalties.
	We've introduced that bill, Senator Paul on the Senate side, and we've done it on the House side.
	So those are the kind of things we've got to focus on.
	To stop these agencies going after the American people.
	I didn't know that.
	I love that idea.
	Getting people fired if they censor Americans from their government position.
	I'm going to reach out to your team.
	I need that information.
	I want to retweet it and spread it out there.
	Thank you.
	We've got 60 seconds left.
	I wish we had 60 minutes.
	Please follow this man jordan.house.gov and on Twitter at Jim underscore Jordan.
	One of the questions that most perturbs our millions of listeners, Chairman, is do you have confidence That the 2024 election will be, um, a fair election.
	We're all watching more lawyers, more observers, everything we all noticed because the concerns we had about the 2020 election states that can have improved their election law, like the state of Georgia.
	And you know, they improved it when, uh, when, uh, cause everyone, uh, objected to it, including major league baseball.
	If you remember that when they moved the all star game.
	So, um, I do think, uh, I do think we're, uh, in a, in a much better position.
	And then, of course, we're going to have to, in states where they allow some of the crazy things that they do, like the state of California and this ballot harvesting, we're going to have to use that to help our congressional candidates win in that state.
	But I do feel much better about where we're at as we head into the 2024 presidential contest.
	Right, the motto on his Twitter bio is hashtag do what we said.
	Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, follow him at Jim underscore Jordan.
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	Jen, can you text me or Skype, because we have to dial you.
	Oh, you have to dial us?
	Okay.
	an issue with.
	I think I We're getting ready to impeach.
	We're getting ready for impeachment.
	You know, it doesn't rhyme.
	Impeach 46 doesn't have the same ring to it, you know?
	There it is.
	With Jim.
	Um...
	We're getting ready to impeach.
	We're getting ready for impeachment.
	You know, it doesn't rhyme.
	Impeach 46 doesn't have the same ring to it, you know?
	I'm just bumming out about that.
	Impeach slow Joe.
	There you go.
	All right, we've got some California stories.
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	Now do I need to be, that needs to be zoomed out or something, don't you think?
	That's a lot of my face, which I know most people need a lot of, but.
	Or just move back or move the camera forward.
	Do the Hitchcock Zoom.
	The Hitchcock Zoom.
	Exactly.
	I know you guys want to see what's inside my nostrils, but... We're not doing a COVID test with the camera.
	Nope.
	Nope.
	Do you like to do a little emergency swab?
	When I caught COVID and I had a COVID test done, the doctor, I swear he put it in my brain cavity.
	I mean, it's... Oh, they go way far up there.
	When they do it to you?
	It's like... And he made me, like, wince, and he thought it was funny.
	I know.
	That's because they had to get their fee if you were positive.
	That's right.
	He's like, please.
	He's like, if there's any little bit of anything up there, I'm coming for it.
	Yeah, I'd like to keep my brain in my cranium thing.
	30 seconds.
	Yes.
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	Oh, I've got to use the Mitch McConnell one again, but we can put it out near the end.
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	Deal!
	You know, if you run for governor, if you run for office, I'm ready.
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	Correct.
	And so my co-host, you know, that rascal Grant Stinchfield, who was here last week filling in, he goes, don't just donate a dollar.
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	They're sinister.
	You also hosted for me on Monday.
	How did my guys behave?
	Oh, they're great.
	You know I love the guys.
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	Alright, there's so much to discuss.
	Ridiculous stories out of California.
	But first things first, we've played it already.
	It happened just a few hours ago.
	Out of Kentucky, from the Chamber of Commerce.
	I don't know if I can feel sorry for this guy.
	This is the most senior, this is the leader of the Republicans in the Senate, Mitch McConnell, who's asked a question and then just, like a malfunctioning robot, just freezes.
	Play cut.
	What are my thoughts about what?
	Running for re-election in 2026.
	Oh, that's right.
	Did you hear the question, Senator?
	Running for re-election in 2026?
	And he can't even look at the woman who's trying to save his bacon.
	You know, you can feel sorry for people who have, you know, medical conditions, but if you were the CEO of a company, if you were driving a forklift truck, you wouldn't allow that person to do the job.
	So, Jennifer, your reaction?
	Yeah.
	Well, it's really sad, but it's all, I mean, it looks like it's Rotary Day at the old folks' home.
	I mean, it's just, I don't, I don't even know where to begin with what's happening right now, where people are staying way too long than they need to in their role to represent America.
	And this doesn't have anything to do with age, because I think there are plenty of people like Chuck Grassley and others who are of a certain age, but who are still energetic and coherent and with it.
	Mitch McConnell's clearly in decline.
	He looks terrible.
	He's sounding terrible.
	This is the second time he's frozen up.
	Along with Dianne Feinstein, John Fetterman, who is not old, but of course is having some issues, and Joe Biden himself.
	It's time for these people to know when it's okay to cash in your chips.
	What would you do after decades in a position?
	I know what I'd do.
	I mean, A, I'd be embarrassed to be seen in such mental decline in public, and I'd say, hey wife, hey kids, do you mind like helping me out?
	And I'd just disappear into the wilderness.
	Well, this is part of the of the graceful argument.
	These people, whether we like them or not, they have allegedly dedicated their life to the public service, right?
	Why would they want to stick around and have their image diminished?
	And so it is time for the family.
	I mean, this is what I've questioned about Jill Biden and Mrs. Fetterman.
	What are they doing to their spouses to put them out there in such a way that they're so vulnerable?
	And so, yeah, where is the family?
	I mean, this is such a mix of sad and infuriating because it's sad, obviously, for all the reasons that we know it's sad.
	It's heartbreaking to see this kind of thing.
	You know he has a family, a family and kids who love him.
	This has got to be hard for them to watch.
	But it's infuriating because the American people also deserve fair representation and people who are able to actively represent them.
	And so it's really kind of a mix.
	Yeah, it's so important.
	You're there to do a job, and if you can't do the job, you shouldn't be there.
	And secondly, also, and again, this is kind of an ego thing, but it's important, what are you going to be remembered for?
	You're not going to be remembered for 300 federal judges confirmed under Donald Trump.
	You're not going to be remembered for stopping Merrick Garland from being a Supreme Court judge.
	You're going to be remembered for the senile guy at the podium.
	Yeah, and this is what Mitch McConnell's whole career has been about, is about being the smartest guy in the room and coming up with the strategies.
	I mean, whether you love Mitch McConnell or you hate him, he was always thinking 10 steps ahead and coming up with a strategy that sometimes we celebrated and sometimes we went, oh no.
	But that's what he was known for.
	And so do we need him now being in front of a podium being asked if he's going to run for re-election and looking stumped?
	Yeah.
	All right, so much more to discuss.
	You said this is infuriating.
	Well, so is this story out of the city by the bay, San Francisco.
	Is this actually true?
	I don't want to believe it's true that a restaurant in San Francisco banned police officers who were carrying weapons, which is their job.
	Did that actually happen?
	Well, what's interesting is this restaurant said that they were going to ban people in uniform or people carrying weapons.
	And so who, of course, do you think that means?
	It means the police.
	It means first responders.
	And this is why, in some respects, San Francisco is getting exactly what they deserve.
	And as much as it pains me to say that, and as much as I think there are some people who are starting to wake up and those people will be the ones to ultimately save California, even The big cities in California, the people who are demonstrating this kind of behavior deserve exactly what they get.
	And that's a crime-ridden city with people openly doing drugs on the street, with police officers retiring as quick as they can to get out of Dodge.
	They deserve it because they obviously won't serve the people who were there.
	The few people left, they should be laying at their feet and fanning them and feeding them frozen grapes.
	For crying out loud for the police officers that are actually left in San Francisco because they haven't gone away yet.
	I mean, gosh, I would offer chair massage at my restaurant if I was still trying to do it.
	So what happened to this restaurant?
	Not a whole lot.
	I mean, I think they've just, they've gotten a lot of bad publicity and I haven't heard, I haven't followed the story over the last probably 24 hours or so if they've made any changes, but they got a lot of heat.
	The news media was up there, they were covering it locally, they were covering it on national news.
	It's just, it's an unbelievably stupid decision when you have everything closing around you, people doing everything in the world possible on the streets of San Francisco.
	Bring the cops in, let's have an incentive program, free ice cream for everybody.
	Yeah, I like the idea of the chilled grapes.
	Does that sound good?
	Now I know what we have to add to our green room.
	Eric, can you organize some chilled grapes?
	Just like you don't have anything else to do.
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	I'm your dead mom.
	I thought Trump had money.
	Why are you asking people to give a dollar to Trump?
	I thought he was a billionaire.
	I thought he was a billionaire.
	Is that the best you micro-penis little asshole can come up with?
	I mean, really?
	I mean, that's the best you can come... Dude, what do you have, like, two brain cells?
	Is it a single digit IQ?
	That's the best?
	And why are you riding a bicycle?
	Can't you afford a Ford Pinto?
	Dude, you're a sad little sack of human excrement.
	Give the phone back to your mama.
	Goodbye.
	These people act like, you know, rich people can't run for president.
	You know, like Kennedy or like... Well, forget that.
	I mean, oh, it's only 91 indictments.
	You don't need any money for that.
	Yeah.
	No money for that.
	And all the other people he probably feels responsible for helping as well, like his staffers and all.
	I mean, come on.
	Now it's, uh, yeah.
	Was that the usual guy?
	Oh, what did it, did it say Sam on there?
	It said Sam.
	Yeah, it said Sam.
	Yeah, that's the guy from Philadelphia or something, I think.
	Sam from Philly.
	It's appropriate.
	How often do you talk to loonies?
	Oh, all the time.
	But see, my problem is I try to reason with them.
	What?
	Why on earth?
	That is your problem.
	I know.
	What are you doing?
	Because it's fun.
	We have a couple of routine liberal callers that call in.
	There's just one guy that calls into Chris Plant's show and it turns out he's divorced and his ex-wife rang in to dish the dirt on this guy.
	Oh, that's amazing.
	Mike the Lib.
	This guy is one of the most...
	Totally.
	I mean, cult member.
	Like, Russian collusion is still real.
	Yeah.
	And his ex-wife just said, yeah, yeah, that guy was actually an officer in the Defense Intelligence Agency.
	I mean, that tells you everything.
	Wow.
	Just tells you everything.
	And Chris just, like, it's like a cat with a laser.
	It's very fun.
	Well, it's very fun, because I'll always get my guys that call in.
	I'll always get them to agree with me.
	And then I'll be like, OK, so we agree.
	And then click, and then they go away.
	I don't know how you have the patience.
	It's fun.
	Because they can't be, I mean, they don't come with any facts.
	They always just come with anger.
	Right.
	So, it's good.
	My favorite is always just, like what?
	Give me one example.
	Yes, yes.
	No, no.
	Chris's best one is he always says, okay, so they think President Trump's a fascist or I'm a fascist.
	Yeah.
	Define fascist.
	Right.
	They don't even know how to do it.
	That's great.
	Well, it's, I know.
	It's you.
	And then you have to say, okay, define a woman.
	Let's do something easier.
	Define a woman.
	Just an easy one.
	Yeah, easy one.
	There are some parents finally fighting back.
	Three, I'm telling you, these parents in California have been so incredibly inspirational.
	And now they've got three different ballot initiatives that they're trying to get on this coming ballot.
	They're collecting signatures to save women's sports, to give parents permanently back their rights so that they get notified about changing pronouns.
	Is this connected with Bill O'Saley?
	Uh, it's actually separate, but it's a group, I think, that Bill works with.
	It's Protect Parents' Rights, or Protect Our Children, I think is what it's called.
	Great.
	And, um... 30.
	Yeah, so I know he's, they're aligned, but not this, not together.
	PhD.
	What's up, Eric?
	I guess, but not this segment, but do you want to talk the Gadsden flag story at some point?
	Because that is the title of the livestream.
	So, yeah.
	But I, I, I remember that's Colorado, not California.
	PhD.
	Thank you.
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	Anne, Gregory, Tom, Randy, But we have the Warrior Princess with us from KRLA from AM 590, AM 870, The Answer.
	She's of course Jennifer Horne.
	We haven't discussed on this show since I was on vacation, we discussed it on your show, the debate.
	I want to talk about that but first things first.
	Out of... Is it Colorado, Eric?
	The Gadsden flag story?
	Yes.
	So, this Gadsden flag story, and was it the 12-year-old who was kicked out of school for having a little patch on his backpack?
	He's one, he's back in school.
	Talking about that idiot we spoke to on the break, one of these liberal morons, Sam the cretin, how are people just... I'm an immigrant, but I know the Gadsden flag is about, you know, sticking a middle finger to the British Empire, and you get letters from the school that have now been retracted talking about the pro-slavery Gadsden flag.
	How does this happen, Jen?
	Well don't you know the left says that every flag is about slavery and about keeping people down.
	I don't think... Except one.
	They're proud of... Which one is that?
	The rainbow?
	Rainbow flag!
	It's the only one.
	It's the only flag they like.
	They think that all the flags are somehow triggering and it's infuriating because they don't really understand our history.
	They don't understand what that flag is about.
	Here's the thing.
	We actually complain a lot about cell phones, right?
	And parents out there going, oh, my kid is constantly on that phone.
	But here's one moment where we can thank God for technology and thank God for those cell phones, because some people may not believe the idiocy that exists in schools.
	And so this one mother, God love her, gets out her cell phone and starts recording.
	And had she not done that, This kid would still be out of school.
	He's now back in and he's had a win and good for him for having a mom that's teaching him to stand up for what's
	right.
	But to have the school, the school that is meant to be edgy mercating,
	write in the official, you know, punishment document that the Gadsden flag is a racist pro-slavery flag.
	I mean, that's a school!
	They're teaching that, of course, and if they don't know any better, that's exactly what they're teaching the kids.
	If I were this mother, actually, and we talked about this, I think it was on one of the other shows I was doing today.
	If I were that mom and I would celebrate my win and I would rub it all over the place,
	I'd put my kid back in school for one day and then I'd pull him out for a school that actually teaches the truth
	and doesn't teach some sort of this nonsense ideology.
	And as you're pulling them out of the school, you walk in there in a dress made out of the Gadsden flag.
	That's absolutely right.
	That's the way it is done.
	Follow her at jenniferhorncrntalk.com.
	Okay, let's talk about the event.
	How dare Fox have a debate while I'm on vacation?
	I mean, seriously.
	Rude.
	Totally.
	Winners?
	Losers?
	Is there a balance sheet that's obvious to draw after that debate?
	So, okay, overall, the winner was Donald Trump for not getting involved in that ridiculousness that was on the stage.
	That being said, when I evaluated the debate on the air, I said, let's take Donald Trump out of this.
	So he wasn't on the stage, so let's just talk about who presented well.
	I guess Vivek might still be my second candidate.
	I do really take issue with a lot of his foreign policy.
	I think he does seem overplayed in that department, but he is a fighter and he is kind of the non-swamp creature on the stage.
	I think probably he, along with Nikki Haley, probably would have gotten the biggest bump in my mind.
	I think Nikki Haley showed up as someone who was a fighter.
	The weirdest thing I thought was that Mike Pence has turned into some sort of bulldog
	now.
	I guess that's somebody in his consulting team must have said, Mike, you look entirely
	too nice.
	So just go out there and shout over everybody because the once the Mike Pence we knew has
	been replaced by this weird, you know, junkyard dog, I guess.
	But it didn't work.
	It didn't work.
	The thing that people don't understand is you have to own who you are.
	You can judge it up a little bit, and you can become bigger than life when you are on the stage, but you have to be true to who you are.
	It's the first thing.
	When you and I were talking about radio, I said you have to be prepared to be vulnerable and show people who you are because people don't buy the fake stuff.
	And so Mike Pence, to me, was the most icky moment because it just didn't feel authentic.
	and you look at Chris Christie, he's got no chance. He was booed like more than the Yankees
	at Dodger Stadium. The other two on the edges, they fell off. I don't know. The one who I
	think hurt himself the most, unfortunately, was Senator Tim Scott, who just disappeared.
	I thought he was like offstage with Larry Elder someplace.
	I didn't think he was.
	But I also say that's exactly what happened to, and who was it, a friend of mine used this phrase, the great disappearing Ron DeSantis, that he starts off visible and then he kind of like, it's like the picture fades and he dissolves.
	It was strange.
	Wasn't it?
	and then looking around to see who puts their hand up first, I mean that kills a campaign.
	You cannot look around when you're doing that.
	There's so many cameras.
	You're on stage in front of cameras on a televised debate.
	You have to look like you can make a decision and you can do it swiftly.
	And I couldn't believe how many people, and it wasn't just him, he was probably the worst
	offender, but you had everybody kind of looking around and wondering.
	I mean, say what you will, at least Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, Vivek and Doug Burgum at least raised their hands and they did it quickly.
	And Burgum did it as well.
	And Vivek was like, it was like a rocket.
	It was like one of, you know, Elon Musk's rockets when he put his hand up.
	Bizarre.
	But I will say that Ron DeSantis, I think, I don't know if he hurt himself or helped himself.
	To me, he said a few things that I think helped him, and then he said a few things that hurt him.
	It's just, it's Donald Trump.
	I just don't even know what to say.
	If you watch that debate, it's interesting.
	I'm a political nerd like you, so I like to watch this stuff.
	Man, it's just not them.
	Another loser, if I may, another loser, Fox News.
	When they try and co-op Oliver Antony's song, it's like, and then he disses.
	They said, I'm not on your side the very next day in a viral video.
	Yeah, Fox News.
	She's Jennifer Horne.
	She teaches me words.
	With your permission, from now on, I'm going to use the phrase, zhuzh it up.
	I don't know how to spell it.
	Oh, zhuzh is my favorite.
	I don't know how to spell it.
	Neither do I.
	But I like it because my mom's nickname, her name was Zhuzhanna, so her nickname was Zhuzhi.
	So now I'm going to Zhuzh it up all the time thanks to Jennifer Horne.
	I love it.
	Follow her right now.
	Listen to her and the guy that she's training.
	What's his name?
	Stinchfield?
	Grinchfield?
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	j comply I don't even know but it's a family word and it means whenever you like fluff something up or you like you might juge an artificial Christmas tree you know to make the branches look nice.
	All right.
	I will be using it liberally.
	Make it fancy.
	That kind of thing.
	Good stuff.
	Good stuff.
	All right, you guys.
	Have a great rest of the day.
	How's your mom doing?
	Is she all recovered?
	Doing great.
	She is just loving life.
	And what did she tell me the other day?
	She wanted to do aerial yoga.
	And I started laughing.
	It's like yoga, but you use like to hang and do these things.
	And I said, are you serious?
	Are they dismantling your studio already?
	Uh-huh.
	They just said, get out of here.
	But they said, um, she goes, well, and come December, I can do it because it's been a year and then nothing will be able to fall apart again.
	And I was like, all right.
	It's been a year.
	That's not possible.
	In December.
	Isn't that nuts?
	That's crazy.
	I know.
	She's doing great though.
	Thank you for asking.
	Give her our best and tell her that I will be sending her address and phone number to the campaign.
	Please do.
	It's what we always have to.
	Put your Nancy Pelosi's distro list and it's hilarious.
	They cut her off.
	They're literally evicting her.
	What are they doing to you?
	Are you, like, borrowing somebody's studio, and they're just saying, get out!
	This is ours.
	They're just shutting us down fast.
	Mike's looking sheepish.
	Is he like, you know, it's overtime, and he's like, I'm out of here.
	He's like, I got to get home, please.
	All right.
	Talk to you guys later.
	Thanks, buddy.
	Bye.
	Title for that one What was she saying
	Who did she use the phrase zhuzh it for?
	Was it Pence?
	Was it?
	Or maybe Fox News was the loser of the debate or something.
	I thought that was kind of funny.
	Who lost?
	Who was the big loser of the debate?
	Kolob, Fox News.
	Do you know I used to work for those guys?
	I used to work for Fox.
	Do you know that?
	I worked for them before I was in the White House.
	I worked for them after the White House.
	Well, it was the Boston Bombing when you were on Fox the first time, right?
	What a bunch of losers.
	Seriously.
	Amateurs.
	Amateurs.
	Pikers!
	And I never got a title for Graham, by the way.
	Oh, oh.
	There's only so much.
	What did we call the live stream yesterday?
	The live stream yesterday?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That was... So don't forget, Julie's just phoned, Jeff, because she's at the court.
	Okay.
	Yesterday's live stream was... Oh, the Chapel Hill thing.
	Oh, yeah.
	Was that yesterday?
	Yeah.
	I know.
	Oh my gosh.
	Talked about Thatcher, the Royals.
	Mm-hmm.
	Where have the heroes gone?
	Mm-hmm.
	Preferences, Jeff?
	Oh, can somebody bring my phone?
	I think I left it in front of, uh, Guy.
	Um... John's bringing it in.
	Cut wherever you want to go.
	Maybe three.
	Three?
	Okay.
	20 seconds.
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	Let's go to Tom in California.
	Happy Wednesday.
	Is it Wednesday?
	I think it's Wednesday.
	Yes, it is.
	Hi, Dr. Corker.
	Thanks for taking my call.
	Just as a reference point A, I am right about a stone's throw away from our good buddy Ray from Livermore.
	I was wondering.
	That's good to know.
	Is he covering your six?
	Well, yeah, we were partners in crime following the launch Late, great morning show out of Cape Town.
	All right.
	Good to know there's more of you out there.
	What brings you to our shores today, Tom?
	Anyway, reference number two is your opening monologue reminded me of something that happened this last couple of days.
	I was in Denver.
	My company sent me out there and my industry I've been in for decades.
	And they just wanted me to reference some of their work instructions and procedures.
	And luckily they had direct TV in my hotel room.
	So I got Newsmax and one of my outdoor stations, but just for, you know, the way I say giggles or whatever, I turned on the local Denver station and the very first story, these three girls who've been in 4-H for three years, medal winners, the fair they were at, they bought these shirts that said my pronouns, N-O-R slash M-A-L.
	And somebody had posted that on Facebook as probably a pro Facebook post, but some Karen from probably Seattle or Berkeley, whatever, called in to the people who run 4-H and complained.
	And this guy probably knows these three girls since they were kids, had to disqualify them.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	4-H disqualified them because of the t-shirt?
	You're right.
	And they were 4-H.
	You probably have older sisters who've been in 4-H before them.
	And it's just like the opening monologue.
	If we don't start fighting back, when he buckled and came, but if we don't start saying, why are you the only ones who could be offended?
	We can be offended, but it doesn't matter.
	That's bloody outrageous.
	Stay on the line, Tom.
	I want you to give Jeff the details of the station you are watching, because we need to follow up on that.
	We need to make that a core celebre.
	That's utterly outrageous.
	4H did that.
	All right, stay on the line, Tom.
	I need all the details.
	Let's go to Randy in Knoxville, line three.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey.
	Hey, the other day you were talking about this new study about the N95 mask.
	Yeah, that makes you sick because it's full of toxins.
	Absolutely.
	You know, I'm a house painter and I do a lot of drywall refinishing, so I have to mud the joint compound.
	I've always had an N95 mask for that.
	It stops drywall dust, but it sure doesn't stop viruses or anything like that.
	It's ridiculous.
	Randy, go ahead.
	There's an amazing video that came out like in the midst of COVID where I think it was a painter, he's outside in the cold so he can see his breath and he puts on six masks, an M95 first and then cloth mask, paper mask and he's like six of them and then he takes a big toke from a vape and he exhales And the smoke particles go through the mask!
	And the COVID particles are tiny by comparison, so it's all garbage.
	Sorry, I know you wanted to talk about something else.
	No, you're absolutely right.
	I've been doing this for 40 years.
	I hate those masks.
	What I do, Dr. Gorka, I take them out of the bag.
	I use a lot of them.
	I spray them with white distilled vinegar because it's a neutralizer.
	Because when you're breathing heavy and you're climbing ladders and you're sanding down that drywall like that, man, you're breathing heavy.
	I hate those masks, but you have to wear them.
	After half an hour, you have to take that thing off.
	You've breathed in so much of your own carbon dioxide.
	Correct.
	Much less.
	That stuff comes from China.
	And who knows what kind of chemicals they have.
	I just tried.
	Some guy told me, put some vinegar on it to neutralize it.
	It doesn't do anything.
	Some fellow I heard saying, those things do about as much good for a virus.
	The whole point, let's be clear, let's be clear what the surgical mask is for.
	The mask is to stop you expelling droplets of your body fluid from your mouth and your nose into an open wound when you're a surgeon in an OR.
	That's what it's for.
	It's not about protecting you from ingress of Outside particles.
	It's to stop you infecting somebody with your body fluids when you're standing over them for six hours during a surgery.
	Cretins.
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	Hey, Julie!
	Hello, how are you?
	Good, good.
	Thank you for jumping in today.
	I know they delayed the sentencing, but it's still important to talk about it.
	Have they said when the... Well, he's sick, right?
	The judge is sick, right?
	Yes, apparently he's done this a few times before.
	So he's sick, but yeah.
	Another, the first thing is scheduled for tomorrow at 10.
	Yes, but what is Tario's charge?
	Because he wasn't even here on January the 6th.
	What is his charge?
	Burning a BLM flag?
	Or what is it?
	Well, no, he already spent five months in jail for burning a BLM banner in Washington.
	So no, he and three other men, Ethan Nordean, Joseph Biggs, And, um, Zachary Real were convicted of seditious conspiracy after a four-month trial.
	They were convicted in April.
	So, um, this, it will be the sentencing for those convictions.
	And the government is asking up to 33 years in prison.
	I know, I know.
	It's insane.
	Alright, so where are you today?
	What are you watching?
	I am right now at the DC courthouse.
	I just left another sentencing.
	For Connie Meggs, whose husband, Kelly, was sentenced to 12 years in prison.
	And Judge Maida just sentenced her to 15 months in jail for obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy to obstruct.
	And the Proud Boys guy, the judge, is Kelly, right?
	Timothy Kelly?
	Tim Kelly, correct.
	All right, stand by.
	One segment and then we'll let you go.
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	And that's Julie Kelly, who's actually spent the day at the district court Witnessing what the federal judicial system is doing to patriots and how they have weaponized the courts against those who really are political prisoners.
	Julie Kelly, welcome back to America First.
	Hey Seb, thanks so much for having me on.
	So I reached out to you because I heard the sentencing for the Proud Boys and Enrico Tardio was going to occur today.
	The judge called in sick this Timothy James Kelly.
	Will you explain what, for example, Tardio is facing and what dastardly crime he committed to receive that potential sentence?
	Well, what happened is four of five members of the Proud Boys who faced seditious conspiracy charges were convicted, four of the five including Enrique Tarrio, for their actions related to January 6th.
	So today was supposed to be the first of five sentencing hearings.
	I was in the courtroom pretty much all day yesterday where Judge Tim Kelly, who's named fine, nonetheless gave an almost three-hour oral ruling as to why he was going to deny various post-trial motions by the defense.
	He just took three hours to regurgitate the government's case, which is what he did, kind of twisting the knife in the back of these men who are already broken, have been incarcerated for more than two years.
	Wearing orange jumpsuits and are going to face now up to 33 years in prison for seditious conspiracy.
	But this nebulous, you know, seditious conspiracy, to do what?
	I mean, this is like, what?
	Is this just, you know, some kind of talking to each other?
	What are they actually charged with committing?
	What crime is it?
	Well, the crime is this extremely vague, ancient Civil War statute, Seditious Conspiracy, of which no American has ever been convicted of this.
	This is something reserved for terrorists, like the Blind Sheik and his cohorts who tried to blow up the World Trade Center, killed five or six people, injured hundreds more.
	They were convicted of seditious conspiracy, not guys who made travel plans to go to Washington, D.C., went to the Capitol, knocked over a bike rack or two.
	One of them, Dominic Pizzola, wasn't convicted of seditious conspiracy, broke a window pane.
	Nonetheless, the government now is blaming all five of them for breaking the window.
	But here's the standard.
	Here's the low, almost nonexistent burden of proof.
	Seditious conspiracy to prevent, hinder, or delay an official government proceeding or action of government.
	And it says by force, but you don't have to use force.
	And what Kim Kelly, the judge was saying yesterday, you can plan to use force, but if you don't use force,
	because of course we didn't, you still can be convicted of seditious conspiracy.
	So theoretically, if I say I'm going to use force to stop the mail carrier delivering the mail to my post box, but I don't, that's an official thing, delivering the mail, so I could get 33 years in prison for that.
	Well, no.
	Well, you might, Seb.
	I mean, I'm sure they're looking for any excuse to get the cuffs on you.
	But this is essentially what it is.
	Keep in mind, Enrique Atario wasn't even in Washington, D.C.
	on January 6th.
	He was in Baltimore.
	The other men are not charged with assaulting police officers.
	As I said, one of the men is charged with breaking a window pane.
	But these are the little petty crimes now, Feb, that thanks to Biden's DOJ, and now judges like Tim Kelly and Amit Mehta, I just got out of a hearing before his court as well, are going to be now designated crimes of domestic terror.
	So this is the dangerous case law, the precedent That this DOJ and these judges are creating.
	Well, if we do our part and get President Trump re-elected, all of these people must receive a pardon on the first day.
	But I've only got a couple of minutes left, and God bless you for calling in.
	The book, you've got to get it right now, by Julie Kelly.
	There's no book like it out there.
	It's January 6th, How Democrats Use the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right.
	And follow this lady at julie-kelly2.
	and read her articles uh what is it is it uh julie kelly unclassified what is what is declassified by julie kelly on substack declassified by julie kelly on substack i just want to one point i want to make because i looked into this judge before the show today and this is this is this is the real problem for me You know, these people are being persecuted.
	They should be pardoned.
	But I look at this guy's CV.
	Timothy James Kelly, the judge, who graduated from Georgetown Law School, was the Republican Staff Director for the Senate Caucus, Chief Counsel for National Security to Charles Grassley, Republican, and then, in 2017, was nominated to the U.S.
	District Court by none other than Donald Trump.
	These were the names the Trump administration was given by the Federalist Society.
	These are the people who are supposed to be conservatives who believed in the Constitution, Julie.
	Isn't this the real problem?
	It is, which is why I find his conduct the most outrageous.
	Look, I just left Amit Mehta's courtroom.
	He's a former public defender.
	He was appointed by Obama.
	Of course he's going to be a liberal and throw the book at Trump supporters.
	But for Judge Tim Kelly, not just prepare to throw the book at these proud boys, but
	keep them behind bars for more than two years, denying their freedom, denying their release
	after they were charged with obstruction of an official proceeding.
	I mean, they weren't even charged with seditious conspiracy yet, and he was denying their release,
	holding them, keeping them in the D.C. gulag.
	That is not a conservative.
	He's an operative, and to your point, he's been in Washington, D.C., his entire professional
	career and get this, his wife is a top deputy for DC Mayor.
	Mayor Muriel Bowser.
	Of course she is.
	Of course she is.
	This is the problem.
	This is a problem we have to solve and get these people somehow recalled or removed from those positions through some political process.
	God bless you, Julie Kelly.
	Julie underscore Kelly 2.
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	So you don't even do anything violent.
	You're not even in Washington on January the 6th.
	But you're facing 33 years in prison.
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	You think DeSantis or Pence is going to solve that?
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	Go ahead, Anne.
	Oh, so I wanted to go back to Mitch McConnell.
	Yeah.
	Here in Kentucky, after Rand Paul, his attack, the legislature changed the law so that the Republican-based legislature could nominate the replacement if a senator should have to leave early.
	OK.
	Unfortunately, Dandy Andy, Andy Besuin, does not agree with that law.
	He wants to challenge that law.
	So if we lose Mitch now, before the Governor's election, which is so critical that we get Daniel Cameron in, Andy Beshear will nominate and attempt to seat somebody, a Democrat.
	But hang on, I don't understand.
	He says, I'm going to ignore the law?
	Yes, he's going to challenge the law.
	Oh, well, yeah, but that could take years.
	But in the meantime, his plan is to go ahead and seat someone based on the old law, which was the governor could do it.
	Yeah, but if the law changed, he can't do that.
	Right?
	He can't just say, oh, I'm going to use the old law.
	He can challenge the new law, but he can't just do it, and that would take years.
	So, look, they're devious scum, but I don't think they can just say, oh, I'm going to use the old law.
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	We shall fight in France.
	We shall fight on the seas and oceans.
	We shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air.
	We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be.
	We shall fight on the beaches.
	We shall fight on the landing grounds.
	We shall fight in the fields and in the streets.
	We shall fight in the hills.
	We shall never surrender!
	And if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island, or a large part of it, were subjugated and starving, then our empire, beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British fleet, would carry on the struggle until, in God's good time, The new world, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.
	We will fight them on the beaches, and we will never surrender.
	A man who had a good taste in German handguns, cigars, and cognac, and who really, with zero exaggeration, Is that spirit still alive across the ocean?
	And how fares our shared civilization?
	in the 20th century?
	The bulldog that was Winston Winnie Churchill?
	Is that spirit still alive across the ocean?
	And how fares our shared civilization?
	Let's talk to a man who almost single-handedly, like King Cnut is standing on the beaches,
	ready to repel invaders.
	He is the leader of the Independent Republic of Mike Graham on Talk TV, and he's a very good friend of the show.
	Mike Graham, welcome back.
	It has been far too long.
	Sebastian, delightful to see you.
	Thank you very much indeed.
	What an intro.
	I mean, I wish we could fight them on the beaches again, because at the moment, not only are we not fighting them on the beaches, we're actually going over to France to pick them up.
	To bring them in, because we've now got hundreds and hundreds of men arriving on our beaches every single day, coming to Britain from parts unknown.
	They've thrown their passports away, they've thrown their phones in the sea.
	They say they're seeking asylum.
	They're basically coming here in large part to rob people, to commit crimes, you know, to live a very luxurious lifestyle, paid for by the taxpayer.
	I'm sorry to rant on about this, but this is a massive issue.
	It's illegal migration that nobody seems to be able, from the government side, to stop.
	Yeah, I don't want to poo-poo your problems, and God bless Nigel Farage for actually, you know, ringing the gong on this issue, but we actually have 6,000 illegals coming over the Mexican border every single day, so let me ask you a question of, you know, As somebody who was born in the UK, who spent the first 24 years of my life in that nation, I had a guest on the show yesterday who likewise was bemoaning the fact that, you know, Labour doesn't care about the working class and the Conservatives aren't Conservative.
	So, what has... Before we look forward, before we go into concrete details, what has happened to a country that seemingly, with the Brexit vote to leave the European Union, Had reasserted itself, had reasserted its identity.
	Was that a blip on the radar screen?
	An anomaly, Mike?
	And everything snaps back to lassitude and an indifference from the political elite?
	Well, do you know what's interesting?
	It's a very good question.
	And I think the answer to it is that the people who lost that referendum have never forgiven the people that voted to leave the European Union.
	And these are people who are sort of privileged, entitled people, middle class, You know, white-collar workers, people who work in the civil service.
	They work for charities.
	We call them the woke brigade.
	You know, these are people who have been to university.
	You know, they love being part of the European Union.
	God knows why.
	You can never tell us why they don't.
	The Democrats don't like losing elections, so they're trying to figure out a way of getting around that, right?
	Similarly, with the Labour Party and these leftists, they can't get what they want because ordinary people don't want it.
	And ordinary people voted to leave, and they just can't get over it.
	And so they're now trying their level best to stop anything from working.
	And I think that is the basic problem the country is currently facing, because they're all honeycombed inside of the public sector.
	They're all in government.
	You know, they're all at the top of universities.
	They're all in schools.
	It's literally like living in a place where they don't want us to have what we've asked for.
	They don't want to give it to us, and they're going to do their level best to stop us from getting it.
	Now, this is the strange thing for me because, look, I grew up, I was a kid in the 70s, which was a pretty grim time before Maggie Thatcher arrived.
	You know, I remember the Dustman strike, the piles of garbage on the street, the miners' strike.
	I mean, it was...
	It wasn't all honey and milk and honey in the UK, but there wasn't a sense that either side of the political spectrum was actively working to undermine the writ of the British people.
	The left that said working-class, you know, screw the the the Eton set and the Oxbridge set and then there's the conserves
	who said yes We have pride and we're going to rebuild the UK
	We may not be an empire, but we can stand toe-to-toe with anyone but neither side said, okay, we're gonna sabotage
	What the the people want and I actually saw that in distance in the last six seven years
	when 17 point what four million people the most ever. Yeah vote
	for something say yes, we're leaving the EU Massive success for Farage and everybody else and then
	afterwards for years Mike and I still see you know Trails of it today. You see members of the House of Commons
	members of the House of Lords the establishment media, you know, the BBC et al
	billionaire attorneys and lawyers say Well, we don't care what the British people voted for.
	We want to go back to the European Union.
	How did that happen?
	Because that's seditious.
	That is, you know, just taking a very large defecation, if you will, on the will of the British people.
	What's the genesis of that disregard, do you think?
	Well, you know, Peter Hitchens always talks about this, and he believes that it began under Tony Blair.
	And Tony Blair, who, of course, was the great sort of fellow traveller of Bill Clinton's, you know, and they kind of came almost at the same time, not quite in terms of power, but they sort of came through the same experiences.
	You know, we believe actually, those of us who think that we have gone too far, that
	Tony Blair basically sort of planted the foundations and the seeds for what is now known as the
	woke world, right?
	So he took over the universities, made the universities woke.
	He basically created the Supreme Court.
	He changed the legal system in this country.
	And so it waited until it was almost like a sleeper cell, you know, that 20 years later
	came to fruition.
	And now all of the people that he wanted to be in charge of the establishment, the establishment
	in this country, which, as you say, used to be conservative, is now left wing.
	It's full of people, you know, who drink Bollinger champagne and have dinner parties, but who
	actually call themselves practically socialists, you know?
	It's bizarre.
	They've got loads of money.
	They don't really care.
	They have utter disregard for anybody who's not a member of their class, correct?
	Right, exactly right.
	Yeah, they're elitists, but they're, you know, the complete opposite of what you and I grew up in the 70s, knowing As you say, they were working class conservatives, the civil service was relatively conservative with a small c. Now the civil service goes on strike and actually launches legal action against its own government.
	So the people working in the departments of state, for example in the Home Office, instead of carrying out policy to stop illegal immigration, they're suing the government to stop the government's policy.
	And is it true, as our guest Peter said from Heart of Oak Organisation, Hearts of Oak Organisation on Monday on the show, that Labour is going to win the next election?
	Is that possible, Mike, that the left is going to win?
	Well, the Conservatives have messed everything up to such an extent that it looks very likely.
	I mean, I think those of us who don't want to make too many predictions about elections would say, They may not win it by much.
	They may actually just get a very small majority that isn't workable.
	They need to do some kind of coalition work.
	But the Tories are toast in a lot of places.
	I mean, every election they've had, they've lost.
	They started with a majority of 80.
	I think it's down to 70 now.
	You know, they just haven't done anything.
	Rishi Sunak, you know, looks like a good member of a Goldman Sachs, you know, kind of international management consultant group.
	But what he isn't is a leader.
	He doesn't know how to do anything.
	Well, uh, these are the, um, opportunities.
	It's like Winnie himself was in the wilderness for almost 20 years.
	He was cast aside by the political establishment.
	He had warned the political establishment of the rise of the fascists, the ilk of Mussolini and Hitler.
	And then, um, well, when the man was needed, he was there.
	Is that man somewhere?
	Is that woman, like Maggie, somewhere?
	We shall see.
	In the meantime, make sure you're following our buddy.
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	I mentioned the fate of the president of late, the fourth indictment, a total of 91 charges, Mike.
	More than 300 plus years in prison, potentially.
	How is this reverberating across the pond in the UK when you have You know, the president of El Salvador gave interviews in English saying, you know, the Banana Republic stereotypes we're used to in our neck of the woods have come to America.
	Are people paying attention or you're too busy with... Oh, very much so.
	Yeah?
	Oh, very much so.
	I mean, people are even now, I think, aghast, because I've been telling them ever since the, you know, the New York indictment, then the Florida indictment, then the Washington, D.C.
	grand jury, and now Georgia.
	You know, I've been telling them all along, like you, I've got experience on both sides of the Atlantic.
	I lived in the U.S.
	for 10 years.
	actually was in New York City when Rudolph Giuliani was the Southern District District
	Attorney and when he invented the RICO statutes to go after the Gotti crime family, you know,
	the Gambinos and everybody else and then to go after the Wall Street insiders, right?
	So it's kind of ironic that these idiots, Bozo of Georgia State, have decided that they think
	they can use RICO as some kind of a punishment against Donald Trump's White House, you know,
	of which you were a part.
	Which is clearly not anything like the Mafia.
	You know, it's a democratically elected group of people.
	As some of the indictments, you know, I've been explaining to people, I understand, involve people actually sending an email.
	And that's one of the indictments, you know, organising a meeting.
	So I think even now, I think even people who don't like Donald Trump very much are beginning to realise that this is actually a massive witch hunt.
	And he's quite right.
	They're also quite surprised that every time he gets indicted, he seems to get more popular and he seems to raise even more money.
	And is, so we are told here by the pundits that, you know, it's the never-Trumpers versus the MAGA hat-wearing Loyalists.
	Is the UK likewise, is it divided down the middle by those who voted to leave the EU and wanted national sovereignty and the Remainers or the Ramoners as they're called?
	How divided?
	Or is it, you know, is it the big city elites?
	Is it the South and then everyone else?
	What does it look like now?
	Well, it's very similar.
	Many, many people who voted for Brexit are also very keen on Donald Trump and they rather like the guy because he represents what he represents for Americans.
	He represents the outsider, the guy who came inside the beltway and drained the swamp.
	And, you know, again, a bit like the people who voted for Brexit, you know, the people in Washington, D.C.
	are never going to forgive Donald Trump.
	So they see a kind of parallel between what happened in 2016 and us voting to leave the European Union and Donald Trump winning the White House, which nobody thought he would do and which he might more than likely could be doing, you know, again next year.
	But so, yeah, you're right.
	I mean, Sadiq Khan, for example, has been big in the news today.
	He's the mayor of London.
	He's a bit like the sort of mayor of New York, quite a big political figure.
	He's just brought in an expanded clean air zone, which means that lots and lots of businesses are going to go out of business.
	People have to buy new cars, new vans and all this.
	He actually says that he needs to have a clean air zone to save lives, right?
	And anyone who disagrees with him, he calls them COVID deniers, conspiracy theorists, you know, people who voted Brexiteers.
	You know, he puts them all in the same category.
	So quite often a lot of people go, well, yeah, actually, I'm in that category.
	But just because I didn't want to take a jab doesn't make me a COVID denier.
	Just because I don't believe that climate change is actually going to burn my body up before I die doesn't make me a climate change denier.
	You know, get lost, but they can't help it.
	Now explain to me, because I've been seeing these viral videos on social media, does this, the Sadiq Khan's clean air London thing, is this connected to these God bless them, these vigilantes who are going out and sabotaging these cameras across London.
	So what are these cameras recording?
	And I was shot in a land where, you know, people stand silently in line.
	Queue up, as the Brits say.
	You know, behave.
	Nobody jumps to the front.
	In the land of, you know, mild-mannered queues, to have people being cheered on on camera as they're ripping down these cameras.
	What is going on, Mike?
	Well, this is the thing, because this mayor, right, is a bit like somebody that was elected by proportional representation to represent a very small number of people in the community.
	Doesn't represent everybody.
	He did a consultation.
	Everybody said they didn't want this expansion.
	Basically, what it's written, the cameras are recording your license plate, basically.
	So if you have a car which is a bit too old, a bit too, you know, diesel run, a bit too green, basically, you will have to pay £12.50, about $15, to drive down your own street.
	So they've been putting these cameras up without even asking the local officials in the local parts of the outskirts of London.
	So these guys who call themselves the Blade Runners are a vigilante group who basically say, we're not breaking the law because the law is not really the law.
	He's decided to put these cameras up.
	He hasn't got any right to do so.
	So they say, and what I say is this is nonviolent protest.
	This is exactly the same as the idiots who nail themselves to the roads and glue themselves to the roads in the name of climate change.
	And people support them.
	Left-wing journalists and left-wing media support them.
	So I say, well, I support these guys because they're not doing anything illegal.
	If they are doing anything illegal, it's non-violent.
	I just want to know, is a certain Range Rover driven by a certain Mike Graham going to knock down some of these cameras?
	Well, do you know, I've got some news for you.
	I've handed the reins over in, and now I've got Maserati.
	Ooh, all right!
	As long as it's not a Tesla.
	As long as it's not a Tesla.
	Oh, no.
	Absolutely not.
	No, it's got four exhausts, it runs on petrol, makes a hell of a noise.
	Great.
	I love revving it up at the traffic lights against all the cyclists.
	Civilization, we love it.
	The smell of, well, here it's called gasoline.
	In the UK, we're petrol heads.
	I think Mike and I would have been petrol heads together.
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	I'm not sure all of them are palace watchers, but a quick, you know, give us a grade, Mike.
	How's King Chuck doing?
	Is King Charles better than expected?
	I didn't have very high expectations.
	What's going on in the palace?
	Yeah, he's actually not doing too badly.
	I mean, you know, for a guy who has kind of taken over finally a job he's been training for his entire life, He hasn't tried to do too much.
	He's just kind of kept the ship relatively steady.
	And I've actually been quite impressed because what you don't really want is a guy like Charles coming in, you know, because he's a bit of a sort of a green environmentalist.
	He's been talking to plants long before anybody had ever heard of climate change.
	You know, he's got an Aston Martin that he runs on cheese and wine, apparently, because he can apparently, you know, transfer it into some kind of methane or something.
	But yeah, he's relatively well behaved.
	He's obviously had to deal with the ghastly Harry and Meghan, and he doesn't basically talk to them anymore, because Harry, I think, is coming over to this country in the autumn, and he won't see his own father, you know.
	So I think I congratulate him on that.
	And so, yeah, he's doing okay.
	I'd give him, so far, so good.
	I'd give it a 6.5 out of 10.
	If you haven't seen it, The news broke of the Queen's death while Mike was on air.
	We played the cut several times on our show.
	Incredible, emotional broadcast.
	I commend you, Mike, with the way you dealt with that.
	I want to ask you, somebody who grew up, you know, spent most of your adult life under her, you know, leadership as did I for more than two decades.
	The role of the royal family, is it diminished?
	Is it still there?
	Is it still central to how the Brits look at themselves?
	I believe so.
	I mean, we've obviously, like you, we've got lots of people who deride it.
	People who get access to the media who say, oh, you know, it's a bit sort of derisory now to have a royal family.
	It's a bit of an anachronism.
	It's a bit historic.
	It's all fine, but it's not really for the 2023 and 2024 years.
	But actually, the coronation of King Charles was, I think, the most watched television show this year.
	It was covered live.
	It was a big deal.
	People lined the streets.
	You know, people had street parties.
	People really enjoyed it.
	You know, we had the red arrows and all the usual, you know, pomp and ceremony.
	And it proved to me, once and for all, that we will always want the monarchy.
	William is doing a good job as well.
	And when he becomes a younger king, I think that will also be a major landmark for us.
	But I think, by and large, Britain, whatever anybody will tell you, likes having a king or a queen.
	They like the monarchy.
	It's part of our history.
	Yeah, I have to say, as somebody who prized my, as a seven year old, my 25th, my silver jubilee mug of Queen Elizabeth's coronation, I thought, oh my gosh, it's been, you know, 70 years since they did this.
	Is anybody going to remember how they do this?
	because you know most of the people were dead who were actually there originally and hats off.
	I salute the military, the church itself, everybody who was responsible for protocol,
	everybody that stood in line and waited days on end. It was a sight to see and
	these are the ineffable things that define a nation.
	It's like that moron from Australia that I played on the show last week or before I went on vacation who said, why are there so many flags in America?
	Yeah, because we're Americans and we're proud to have that flag outside every little house, every apartment building.
	That's who we are.
	Sorry, you can go back to Australia.
	The governor of Texas told him to do.
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	alright, Maggie the commander of the operation has sent the following
	message change.
	Be pleased to inform Her Majesty that the White Ensign flies alongside the Union Jack in South Georgia.
	God save the Queen.
	What happens next?
	Thank you very much.
	Rejoice at that news and congratulate our forces and the Marines.
	Good night, gentlemen.
	Thank you very much.
	Rejoice!
	Oh, how you are missed.
	That was late night, outside 10 Downing Street.
	Just the grace of the woman.
	She is the commander, politically, of the forces fighting for the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands.
	She comes out of 10 Downing Street and she tells the Secretary of Defense, To share the glad tidings that victory, the Argentinians have surrendered.
	She doesn't take the glory.
	But at the end, when some cretin journalist tries to ask a stupid question, she says, just rejoice, just celebrate the victory.
	Where are the statesmen, stateswomen like that today?
	My, Graham, I feel like I played a clip from, you know, ancient Rome or something.
	I know.
	That was 1982!
	Where are those people?
	Like Maggie.
	It's incredible, isn't it?
	You know, I do a section on my show called The Veteran's Voice, where we talk to veterans who have been in conflict, some of them now falling on hard times.
	We try to help them out, get them recruited into doing different jobs.
	I spoke to a guy who was on HMS Sheffield.
	He had just signed up to be in the Navy.
	He was 18 years of age.
	He watched his best friend die.
	He saved the lives of many other people.
	This was the ship that was torpedoed by an Exocet missile fired by the Argentinian Navy,
	sold to them by the French.
	So you might understand why our sort of, shall we say, displeasure of our friends across
	the Channel.
	I remember as a kid when it was revealed that the Argentinian jets were using French missiles.
	was like, ah, yeah.
	And guess what?
	There was a meeting held recently, a summit meeting being held, and the declaration was written by the EU.
	And they called the Falkland Islands in a document The Malvinas, which is of course the Argentinian word for the Falkland Islands, which we don't call it because it doesn't belong to them.
	It belongs to us, and we call it the Falkland Islands.
	The EU decides to call it the Malvinas, and I think that tells you all you need to know about where their sympathies lie.
	Pity they didn't say that during the 1940s, I think.
	Yeah, the Sudetenland and the Anschluss, they didn't call Austria part of Germany.
	Are people like Maggie Thatcher, if they exist, are they just avoiding politics like the plague?
	Telling that in 2016, what we did is we elected somebody who'd never been involved in politics before.
	In the UK, is there hope to find people who aren't a member of the big city Oxbridge elite to actually represent?
	Yeah, I mean, there are some, but as I say, the trouble is that we have been kind of inflicted and infected, if you like, with this kind of wokeism.
	You know, these people who walk around Saying that you must use their pronouns and, you know, he's he him or he's they them or, you know, if you're going to be going into a doctor's office, they're going to have to ask you if you're pregnant, even if you look like me, just in case you're a trans woman.
	I mean, you know, the world has gone rather strange in this in this part of the world, but most ordinary people, most sensible people, most working class conservatives with a small c are not buying it.
	And there's a bit of a backlash.
	And I think in the end, we will win.
	But it's a fight.
	It has to be a fight every single day.
	I refuse, quite frankly, to call a man who's dressed up as a woman, a woman.
	Because he's not.
	He's a man.
	And if he wants to pretend to be a woman, that's fine.
	But I'm still calling him Pete.
	It's as simple as that.
	And those people who will emerge as the future politicians To be successful will be those people, I believe.
	But here's the question that is very analogous to what we're struggling with, grappling with here in the US.
	Can we fix the existing system?
	We have an establishment, quote-unquote, conservative party, the Republican Party, that, you know,
	a large portion of which really doesn't care about conservative values, is fine playing
	footsie under the table with lobbying interests, whether it's the Chamber of Commerce or what
	have you, or even the Democrats, and especially those people like, you know, Mitt Romney and
	others who look at Donald Trump with distaste, despite the fact that if you add two elections
	together, 130 million people voted for Donald Trump because he's not a politician.
	Is this Conservative Party salvageable?
	Because the chances of a new party coming in and winning first past the post is nigh impossible, is it not?
	I mean, there's a Reform Party now, which has sort of come from the old Brexit party, Nigel Farage's party.
	Nigel's not involved in it directly at the moment.
	And at the moment, because we have a two-party system, it's very difficult to see them doing anything other than getting just a few seats here and there.
	But there's a big rump of people who want a Conservative party.
	I mean, at the moment, you look at the Labour leader and you look at the Conservative leader, and there's not much to choose.
	And I wonder if Conservatives Who are right of the party would hook up with reform because there would be plenty of MPs then.
	I think that would be a possible chance for sense to be restored to the country and also to the democracy because I think at the moment an awful lot of people don't know who to vote for.
	Well, and you know, 20, 30 years ago, if you'd had a leader of a party like Keir Starmer, physically incapable on live air to define a woman, I mean, wouldn't that person have been recalled or forced to resign the same day?
	Yeah.
	Well, exactly.
	I mean, can you imagine?
	It ended up doing in the career of Nicholas Sturgeon, the first minister of Scotland.
	Keir Starmer, the Labour leader, the opposition leader, finally learned that he had to say that it was an adult human female.
	There are still plenty of politicians who won't say it.
	And it seems incredible that they wouldn't actually, I call them actually reality deniers.
	There are people who look at something and they don't tell you what it is because they can't.
	They're frightened.
	I don't know what they're frightened of.
	But can you imagine asking Margaret Thatcher that question and seeing what the response would be?
	Well, we are sure he is not a reality definer.
	He celebrates it every single day.
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	funny and you may set yourself up as the spokesman for Brexit who knows the mood
	I'm not the spokesman for Brexit.
	You've never been elected, you don't talk to my constituents.
	I get elected every single day, mate.
	You don't talk to my constituents who are absolutely fed up.
	Well maybe we'll get some of your constituents to ring in from Wantage, right?
	If you've got somebody from Wantage who wants to ring in and speak to me, so that I can now say to Ed Vasey, I've spoken to one of his constituents, that would be great.
	It'll be a first.
	How do you know I've never spoken to anyone from Wantage?
	The point is, all you're doing Ed is proving everybody's point that you're an arrogant, opinionated and rather self-appointed person.
	Now that's media!
	That's how you do it!
	Yes, every single day we're elected because if people don't listen to us we don't have shows and to call out the arrogance of people who once, once Test the waters and get elected.
	That was, I believe, outside the Palace of Westminster.
	That is, of course, our good friend.
	It is Mike Graham.
	Mike, I just, you know, I think I got to know you first via those viral YouTube videos of you.
	How on God's green earth did you get members of Parliament to sit down in front of a microphone with you?
	Because you were, you're vicious in a fabulous way.
	Well, do you know what?
	We were very clever because we were very much the small relation to the big people like Sky TV, now owned by NBC, the BBC, ITV, all the big networks.
	They had these huge kind of setups down there where they would have literally a kind of a stage built.
	And so we set up on the pathway towards those big sort of tented areas where all the big broadcasters were.
	And basically we just hijacked every guest that they had and grabbed them and made them come.
	And we had two very beautiful looking young Spanish women who worked for my production company
	who used to just lure these characters, bring them to sit down with me.
	And then they find out actually it wasn't going to be such an easy ride after all.
	But the irony of that guy that you're looking at there called Ed Vazey, do you know where he is now?
	No.
	He's in the House of Lords.
	He lost his seat and he got a peerage.
	So he now gets the rest of his life paid for by the public sector, public purse, taxpayer.
	That is everything you need to know in a nutshell about politics and the establishment.
	That is the definition of establishment.
	Arrogance rewarded with a peerage in the House of Lords.
	Last question, Mike.
	It's been far too much fun, totally flown by.
	I know you've got to go and do your own show in a moment.
	When it comes to these two nations united by one difference, and that's a shared language, As Churchill called it, the English-speaking peoples of the world.
	Do you remain an optimist or are you a pessimist with regards to the future of our civilization?
	I'm always optimistic because, Sebastian, there are more of us than there are of them.
	It doesn't always seem that way.
	And I say that with absolute Surety, the common sense brigade, as I call it, I call myself the home of common sense.
	You know, common sense is always what wins out, because that's how civilization actually moves on.
	You know, if these idiots remain in charge, then civilization is doomed.
	But they're going to sort of run out of road, I think.
	Biden, you know, can barely, you know, walk, let alone run for president.
	That's going to have to change, you know, in the same way that whoever we get, I think there's going to be some kind of Popular uprising.
	You know, not necessarily anything other than a peaceful one, but there is going to be some kind of popular uprising, both here and where you are, because people are fed up.
	They're sick to the back teeth.
	After Covid and the lockdowns, these politicians think that they've got the right to tell us how to live.
	Well, not in my street, matey.
	Thank you very much indeed.
	They're going to run out of road, and if they don't, he's going to run them off the road with his Maserati.
	He is the caliph of common sense.
	Follow him right now on IROMG on Twitter.
	That's the Independent Republic of Mike Graham.
	And check out those amazing clips on YouTube and listen to him on Talk TV.
	God bless you, Mike.
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