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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: UNC Chapel Hill shooter tied to Wuhan
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I think the message for them is get the shot if you want, I will.
If you want it, go ahead.
Don't get it.
You're going to get another one.
I just said, I'm not going to ask anybody if they're getting their shot.
I won't wear a mask, but I'm going to get the shot.
You are?
What number shot is this for you?
I've had it every, so I'm going to get one in October.
I have one in April.
How many?
What's the total?
This will be my seventh.
And I've had COVID three times.
He laughs!
I get it when everybody else is laughing, but I don't think you should be laughing when you actually fess up that you've taken the COVID shot seven times and still caught COVID three times.
Is that science?
Are we the science deniers who say, well, that doesn't make any sense?
That was, of course, the Fox, the Fives, and the token liberal, Harold Ford Jr., being pressed to admit, yeah, seven shots, six three times.
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It is only Tuesday, I can confirm.
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That's insanity.
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To analyse the political persecution of the 45th President of the United States, we will continue our discussion of the anniversary, the second year anniversary of the murder by ISIS of 13 of our war fighters at the Kabul International Airport.
An evacuation operation that the National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan, is proud of to this day, and that Lloyd Austin and Mark Milley see no problem with.
Despite the fact that 13 of our warfighters were murdered by ISIS, despite the fact that a Marine Corps sniper had eyes on the suicide bomber and was told to stand down by his commanding officer and not to save their lives.
We'll be analyzing that with former cabinet member in the Trump administration, Robert Wilkie, Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and also Byron Donalds.
Who is going to discuss with us what is happening with the judicial system and the DOJ in America.
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COVID-24.
Is it coming?
Well, um, you know me.
Where are my stories at, Eric?
Where do my stories come from?
Three locations.
7-Eleven, the Post Office, and Walking the Dogs.
There you go.
7-Eleven, Walking the Dogs, or the Post Office.
I was at the Post Office checking our post box today.
We're going to talk about a strange missive I received.
There's a lot of loonies out there.
We'll discuss that later.
Have a little bit of fun with that.
But as I was checking through the packages at the Post Office, Very elegant lady.
Casually dressed, but an elegant older lady.
Lovely bouffant blonde hair.
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So that was this morning at the post office.
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And then... I was very naughty.
I got a small slushie at 7-Eleven.
Just a little one.
Half a cup.
I didn't fill it.
It's a small.
Half a cup.
I love the Coke slushies.
Just excellent.
And you know what had happened at 7-Eleven?
The same 7-Eleven where the guy with the triple mask and the face shield said he was going to shoot me if I didn't put a mask on?
I was standing there, waiting to pay for my slushie.
I got some cookies for the boys.
They still haven't opened the cookies.
Don't know why.
They're rejecting my love.
I don't know what it is.
But they're in the green room, gentlemen, if you're hungry.
And I realized, what's missing?
The giant...
Perspex separator was gone.
I mean, what is it?
It's end of August 2023, and they finally removed it.
And I said, whoa, to the lovely Nepalese couple, no stupid plastic divider.
And the guy was so happy, and his wife said, yes, and no masks.
They were happy.
But, you know, slow down, because you know what's happening, right?
Biden's already let it out of the bag that, oh, we're funding a new vaccine.
Why?
Oh, because there's an election coming.
Well, just in case you get caught up in the maelstrom of, you know, like our buddy Harold Ford Jr.
wanting to have seven injections and still catching COVID.
Very interesting story from the Daily Mail.
Quietly just put on the website of the National Institutes of Health, There's a fascinating study out of Asia about masks.
Yeah.
The surgical N95 mask has been held up to be the gold standard when it comes to protecting you against COVID.
But a study quietly re-shared by the NIH in spring, in spring?
That must have been quiet, suggests that the tight-fitting mask may expose users to dangerous levels of toxins.
Well, isn't that interesting?
Researchers from the Jeonbuk National University in South Korea looked at two types of disposable medical-grade masks, as well as several reusable cotton masks.
You know, the ones everyone wears.
All the cultists.
The study found that the chemicals released by these masks had eight times the recommended safety limit of toxic volatile organic compounds.
Let me just read that little lovely little factoid.
The chemicals released by the most popular masks had eight times the recommended safety limit of toxic volatile organic compounds.
Inhaling these organic compounds has been linked to health issues such as headaches, nausea, and while prolonged and repeated exposure has been linked to...
Organ damage and even cancer!
Quote from the study, it is clear that particular attention must be paid to the toxins associated with the use of medical masks and their effects on human health.
I mean only only only a scientific journal could you you mean it's killing people the masks are killing people that's what you mean.
Published in the paper back in There are ways to reduce the danger, according to the authors.
Exposure to these toxins can be significantly reduced if a mask is opened and left to sit for 30 minutes.
Okay, so the thing that's supposed to protect you, you should take it off and put it down and just let it air out for half an hour.
Is that between wearing it?
When you take it out of the package?
After you've worn it?
Who are the cultists?
Who are the science deniers?
Yeah, I think we know.
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13.
13 U.S.
troops are dead after that suicide blast at Kabul's airport at the Abbey Gate, and then another attack, a lot of gunfire close by at a hotel.
Also, 95 Afghans lost their life, too.
An ISIS offshoot group called ISIS-K has claimed responsibility, President Biden vowing revenge.
Really?
Revenge?
What revenge?
That was two years ago.
If it hadn't been President Trump, those members of ISIS would have been wiped off the face of the earth that killed our servicemen and women.
Well, if it had been President Trump as Commander-in-Chief, that never would have happened.
Two years ago, last Saturday, 13 warfighters, wearing our uniform, wearing our flag on their shoulder, were murdered by an ISIS suicide bomber outside the Kabul International Airport.
Their names.
Sergeant Johanny Rosario Pichardo, 25.
Sergeant Nicole L. Gee, 23.
Staff Sergeant Darren T. Hoover, 31.
Corporal Hunter Lopez, 22.
Corporal Dagon W. Page, 23.
Corporal Humberto A. Sanchez, 22.
Lance Corporal David L. Espinoza, 20.
Lance Corporal Jared M. Schmitz, 20.
Lance Corporal Riley J. McCollum, 20.
Lance Corporal Dylan R. Merola, 20.
Lance Corporal Kareem M. Nikoyi, 20.
Navy Corpsman Maxton W. Soviac, 22, and Staff Sergeant Ryan C. Maus, 23.
May your souls rest in peace.
Say a prayer, not just for them, but for their loved ones, so the Lord may give them strength.
Let's discuss what that event means, and just the stunning ages.
Average, like, 21, 22.
With the perfect guest to discuss, former Secretary of Veterans Affairs in the Trump administration, good friend of this show, Newsmax Chief National Security Contributor, Secretary Robert Wilkie.
Welcome back in studio.
Thank you.
I wish it was a better subject.
Um, first comment.
We have so much to discuss with you, and thank you for coming in again, but these were kids.
20, 21, 22.
You know, you've signed up, I've signed up.
You know, we come from families that have served, and you know, part of the understanding is that there's going to be the occasional empty chair at the dinner table, but it's unacceptable.
When those empty chairs are caused by indifference and incompetence and just outright neglect, the national media told us that the professionals were coming back.
Now my response when I heard that is if you want to see what a monument to the best and brightest is, you can go look at the Vietnam Memorial, because it's the same caliber of individuals who gave us that, that created this.
And the notion that here we are two years later, This President and his two-star spokesman, the Admiral, are saying that this is one of the most successful evacuations in history, rivaling Dunkirk.
But they forget that Churchill said, wars are not won by evacuations, is an obscenity.
And it really, not only a stain on our honor, but an affront to all of the families whose children, parents, volunteered to serve their country.
And two years on, no one is being held accountable.
We have the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs out there saying, oh, we take this seriously in the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force, yet nothing happened.
Real quick, you mentioned President Trump.
It was clear to the Taliban, if they came out of their caves prior to us departing, that the United States Air Force would do them in.
Period.
And I went on active duty for six months after the administration left, and I could see from my perch in the Air Force, the Taliban coming out, moving out in the open, had no fear of any response from the Biden administration.
And of course, they didn't get one.
And the notion that we give up military assets first, Send the military out.
Ask the Taliban to provide security for what we have left.
The guys that protected Bin Laden.
Right.
And these young people suffered young, beautiful lives cut short and still no one is in charge.
And I think it's a larger metaphor for the incompetence, the incomprehensible World view that this administration has because Afghanistan morphed into Ukraine and it is morphing into a resurgent China that is not only threatening Taiwan, but it's threatening everyone from Korea down to Singapore and
Let's touch upon for a second, Secretary, the secondary and tertiary effects of the last two years of lack of any consequence for that action.
You know what morale means.
You've served at the highest levels of the Pentagon.
You've been a cabinet member at the VA, turned around an institution that probably had the lowest morale in America inside the U.S.
government.
And you've worn the uniform of two of our branches of service.
What does the lack of consequence for those 13 deaths, what does that do to the 20-year-old in the Marines right now?
Well, I can see, I can remember from childhood what it did to the generation that served post-Vietnam.
The United States Army collapsed in on itself.
Because I could see it at Fort Bragg as a youngster, and my father was a senior officer in the 82nd Airborne Division.
You don't have any confidence in your leaders.
If you don't have any confidence in your leaders, every time you step off the ramp, you have a fear for your life.
Not the fear that you would normally have in that kind of setting.
But questioning, why are we here?
Who are these people?
Are they going to leave me the way they left those folks?
It's not a very complicated psychological picture, but I think it's devastating.
We see it manifest in the lack of recruiting, the recruiting trough that the military has gone through as a result of Mr. Biden.
And again, the downstream effects are the resurgence of Mr.
Putin and the Ayatollahs and Xi Jinping.
A great American calamity.
We have so much more to discuss, especially an article that the Secretary sent to me while
I was on vacation about his former department.
What we will share with you out of the VA is absolutely astounding.
We're talking to Secretary Robert Wilkie of the Trump Administration.
He is, of course, Senior National Security Contributor at Newsmax as well.
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We will be back with Secretary Wilkie after these messages.
by the government and the opposition.
Look, I mean, you know, the colonel from my old unit, the intelligence corps, when, you know, you're chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee of Parliament, And you actually, I can't remember the last time a British Member of Parliament just excoriated a sitting President.
Well, they censured him.
Remember, they censured him.
They didn't even censure George Washington.
And he was fighting.
Yeah, it's scary times.
You know, I've...
We'll talk about this next.
I think back on Mr. Nixon, and even at his weakest point, no one would have dared to challenge Richard Nixon.
The Russians, the Chinese, nobody.
No, with his reputation in the 50s?
Please, yeah.
Title for the monologue?
Thank you.
There was a phrase I used.
Something about the cult of masks or something?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, oh, are you ready for COVID-24?
COVID-24.
All right.
I've got an anecdote about that.
At the Fort Myer gym, there's a class of elderly people who come in.
And as I'm leaving, they're coming in.
I told my wife yesterday.
Masked.
They got masks on coming in.
They're older people, but they do a yoga class or something at the base gym, fourth gym.
And I'm seeing the masks coming back.
It's already started.
I don't know how we can get away with it this time.
Well, there are enough sheep.
There are enough sheep.
I mean, this city?
Come on.
I'm going to go see him in a few weeks.
Good.
Talk.
His campaign team is really good.
They're better than 2016.
Good.
I mean, he's got some sharp, sharp opera.
And the leader of the pack.
Do you follow American football?
You're too new to know who Pat Summerhall was.
Player with the New York Giants in the 50s, but then the voice of the NFL for decades.
Big Republican.
His daughter, Susie, is the campaign manager.
She's the one who jumped from DeSantis to Trump.
Susie Wiles.
That's... That's Pat Summerall's daughter.
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Yeah, yeah.
Do you want to come in with a serious tone here?
Not if I'm doing a read.
Come in with a DJT liner.
Got it.
Ad Nile didn't pull any punches.
Good for him.
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They lost another good one at Heritage this week.
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We are back with former cabinet member, Secretary of Veterans Affairs in the Trump administration, a good friend of the show, Robert Wilkie.
You sent this to me last week when I was on vacation.
I still can't quite internalize this.
This is real.
This is a... That is from the government union.
This is from... With my comments.
A settlement.
So these are the people that had to leave from the Veterans Administration who have been suing the government and now the settlement which has been arrived at says the following and I'm just going to read it to you so you know I'm not making this up.
Employees who are fired from the VA for poor performance or for less than grievous misconduct must all be offered their jobs back.
If they accept reinstatement, they will receive a lump sum payment of 35% of their monthly salary at the time of dismissal.
So, are the incompetents just laughing at America and the taxpayer, Secretary?
Absolutely.
You didn't read the most vile part of that.
Those who we dismissed for grievous misconduct.
are to be given lumps on payments and they will be afforded the opportunity to remediate themselves.
They will get 20%... Those who did something grievous as government officials will receive 20% of their monthly salary multiplied by their months since leaving the VA.
How is this happening in America, Secretary?
Well, let's talk about VA real fast.
You said it in the previous segment.
We inherited a moral-bound institution.
Biden and Obama had driven it into the ground.
According to CNN, it had a 37% approval rating.
And as you mentioned, it was dead last in terms of best places to work.
Quickly, when we left, it had a 91% approval rating.
It had gone from dead last to number five.
It set a record for the most appointments, both inside and outside the VA.
Morale soared.
But we also were able, thanks to the President, under Section 714 of the Accountability Act, to get rid of people who were behind veterans dying in hallways, veterans dying on waiting lists.
This administration comes in and the four prerogatives, and I've been hesitant to get into a fight with people who come
in after, because that seems to be a Washington parlor game, but let
me just tell you what his priorities are as a secretary.
He said it on day one. Transgender, diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Fascinating in a department where 48% of the employees are African American and more than half are women.
The third was union prerogative.
And the fourth was remote work.
Now let me tell you about remote work.
They just had their deputy retire, resign.
This was a character who lived in Denver.
Deputy Secretary number two lived in Denver, Colorado.
He would show up once a month.
He worked remotely from Denver.
Marsha Blackburn just gave a speech about 10 days ago, where she pointed out that 80% of the senior leadership at VA doesn't even show up for work.
She's on this case right now.
But this is why.
And the reason we got rid of these people And I think one of the reasons morale went up is that the good employees, and there are many more good employees than are bad, no longer had to carry the weight.
They no longer had to worry that they would be caught up in the maelstrom created by people who are actively abusing their oaths and abusing their veterans.
But the department is back right where it was with Obama-Biden.
We've got 30 seconds left, and I haven't even done one of the reads I have to do, but that doesn't matter.
I don't understand, on what basis is somebody who's grievously malperforming given any money?
Absolutely.
In the real world, this is why Franklin Roosevelt said, the most dangerous threat to American democracy is a government union.
It is a threat to the very heart of the system.
And yet this administration, no matter what these people do, is beholden to them.
What will happen if somebody like you comes back as Secretary again?
Well, I think Section 714 that President Trump enforced will come back in force.
Shocking.
Absolutely shocking.
We need to discuss this at more length.
Thank you.
We've been talking to Secretary Robert Wilkie, hopefully not just a former Secretary of Veterans Affairs.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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Those who are kicked out of the VA for grievous malpractice get money back?
And as he was leaving, the Secretary said, the new Secretary of VA Affairs, first day, what does he do?
Decides to take Abraham Lincoln's words off the Veterans Administration building.
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Most of the quote-unquote politicians on Capitol Hill, when you see their visage come up on a TV screen, you say, oh gosh, this is going to be boring.
Not our next guest.
You always turn the volume up, because man alive, is he a fighter.
And we are delighted to get him back on the show.
From Florida, Congressman Byron Donalds.
Welcome back to America First, Congressman.
Hey, how you doing?
It's good to be with you, Sebastian.
It's been far too long.
Great to have you back.
A very simple question I want to ask you first.
Why does a vice president need three pseudonymous fake name email accounts when he's vice president?
And why does he send more than 5,000 emails using those fake email addresses?
Well, look, it's very simple.
Let's just cut to the chase.
You need that if you're hiding stuff that you don't want in the official record.
And I'm quite sure this is not about, you know, the content of what was going on with his blood work, you know, or, you know, the grocery list from Dr. Jill.
You know, I know it's not any of that stuff.
That's the reason why you have emails by another name.
It's to hide stuff.
It's to conceal stuff, which is part and parcel of everything the Biden family has been doing.
What is the expectation?
We're hearing rumblings that there will be the beginnings of some kind of impeachment hearings or at least the beginnings come the fall.
Is there now finally some kind of consensus that you the good guys that do the oversight have just mountains of evidence you can start the proceedings this fall?
Yeah, I believe so.
And I think when we get back in September, I think an impeachment inquiry is going to begin.
Because at this point, it's overwhelming, the amount of information that we have.
I mean, there's not even smoke.
I mean, we got so many fires already in this thing.
And I just can't wait to see what else materializes.
Because I think people say, oh, you're just doing this because of what the Democrats did to Trump.
No, not true.
What the Democrats did to Trump was terrible.
It was awful.
But we're doing this because this is serious corruption at the top of our government, and the American people suffer while the Bidens get rich.
The Twitter account is ByronDonalds.
The website is ByronDonalds.com.
Let's talk about what they are doing to President Trump.
You have been very vocal in your support for the 45th President.
Do you not share the conclusion that everything we've witnessed, the four indictments, the 91 charges, could they not simply be described as election interference, Congressman?
That's exactly what it is. They're trying to set the narrative to make sure they try to earn or get
or whatever, get Joe Biden another four years in the White House. The reason why they're doing this
is really simple. The Democrats are always about their agenda, first, second, and third, and they
also know that Donald Trump is the direct threat to their agenda.
So they're going to do whatever they need to do.
I mean, listen, you got the judge in D.C.
and the D.A.
in Atlanta.
They were both trying to get the same date to start their trial.
If this is not collusion, I don't know what is.
And they're doing this for the express purpose of having the American people focus on these bogus cases as opposed to the real issues facing our country and the unmitigated disaster that Joe Biden has been on America.
What about the other potential weapon?
God bless my assailant colleague Charlie Kirk who activated all of his millions of followers yesterday and managed, within 24 hours, to get the putative GOP Secretary of State in New Hampshire.
To drop his threat of removing President Trump's name from the ballot papers for the election.
Is this a potential threat in other states?
That if they can't get President Trump any other way, they're going to do an end run around the election process and try and get his name off the ballots, Congressman Donalds?
Yeah, I think this is a legitimate threat.
It is unconstitutional.
The 14th Amendment, which by the way, the left loves to bastardize the 14th Amendment, but the 14th Amendment did not apply to a situation like this.
And let me go further, Jack Smith or Fannie Willis or any of these nutty prosecutors that are out there, none of them are charging Donald Trump with insurrection or sedition.
None of them are.
So the fact that you got these knuckleheads and state capitals around the country saying, Oh, we're just going to take them off the ballot because that's how we feel?
That is the actual destruction of our democratic republic.
And I'm not going to be lectured to by the Democrats who try to tell us they're the ones who want to save democracy, when the truth of the matter is they are destroying our institutions and they are weaponizing their power, which will destroy our democracy.
Last question, Congressman.
There's a handful of good guys and gals on Capitol Hill, the likes of yourself, Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, in the Senate, Marsha Blackburn, not many.
What is your message to those in Florida, in the 19th District, across the nation, who think they don't have a role to play in draining the swamp?
Oh, my first thing is I'd say is that's not true.
Every American's got to stand up for this.
Every member who's elected has got to stand up for this.
And it's about just making sure that these agencies do the right thing.
It's about making sure that our government just sticks to its role, no more, no less.
And I think that if we can get back to that, the country will be a significantly better place.
Well, if we have more like you, then it can happen.
We'll have to get you on my Newsmax show in the meantime.
Follow him at ByronDonalds and ByronDonalds.com.
God bless you, Congressman.
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Last one.
Biden had three secret email accounts.
And Wilkie?
Wilkie.
Oh.
I don't know.
Think of something.
Give me suggestions.
He said something about the withdrawal of Afghanistan.
Something about farce, or not farce, but like he said something.
Calamity?
What did he say?
Yeah, he did.
Biden's disaster in Afghanistan.
Disaster in Afghanistan.
Right.
I haven't played any cuts.
Hang on, we got Maggie Dunn, Winston Dunn.
Oh, we didn't use Biden-Donalds.
Well, we had the man, so.
Yeah, but it's a cool way to introduce them.
Coming with eight.
We did that already.
The Fox, Harold Jr.
Sorry, not eight.
Um, five.
Five.
Oh, it's eight seconds long.
Yeah.
Oh boy.
20 seconds.
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I mean in the cabinet, how many members of the cabinet are there?
What, like 12?
I mean, less than 20.
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If it is possible, do you think it would be helpful for election law legal beagles such
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a more legally bulletproof template to use for documenting election irregularities?
I mean, we need to gain support from more than Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito.
You mean for the next election?
Of course.
We don't want to document.
It's too late to document election irregularities.
We have to make sure they can't get away with it.
We have to take action now.
Dan, you need to volunteer.
You need to become a poll watcher, or even better, like my wife, an official election Officer, it's too late.
We don't have a window to rectify things after the matter.
We have to have such a full-court press on the field that they are afraid to steal as many votes as they did last time.
So no, no lists and handouts for what we do if we see something irregular.
Get on the field right now.
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Hi, Dr. Gorka.
Thank you so much for taking my call.
I just wanted to thank you for reading the names of the people who perished serving our country.
I remember I was driving to pick up my daughter from school, and you read the name of her teacher's husband.
Oh, Lindsay's popped.
Go back to four.
Don't know how that happened.
Sorry, you were driving home, and what happened, Lindsay?
I was driving home to pick up my daughter from school and you read the name of her teacher's husband who perished serving in law enforcement and it just meant so much to me to hear his name and to remember his name was Thomas Albanese.
Well, you're very, very welcome.
We don't do that enough.
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With what they're doing in federal court and in Georgia with Donald Trump, where they have all these weird conspiracy-laden theories to bring indictments.
This is nuts.
And what this judge in D.C.
is doing is worse, because she actually is playing politics.
To be honest with you, Maria, I've never seen a court move this fast to bring a trial.
All the way, I've seen it move this fast, is that the defendant requests it.
But that's not what's occurred here.
She wants to interfere in this election, and she is using her courtroom to do it.
Of course, Congressman Byron Donaldson is with us just a few moments ago.
I didn't get to play that clip with him.
It would have been a bit strange, but it's a perfect setup for our regular guest to comment on what seemingly is the utter politicization of the judiciary, the Department of Justice, and not just at the federal level, but also at the county level, latest, of course, in Georgia.
Let's discuss all that and so much more with the author of Donald J. Trump, A President Like No Other, and numerous other works, all worth your time, the co-host of the podcast Scholars and Scents, Lord Conrad Black.
Conrad, welcome back to America First.
Thank you, Sebastian, glad to be with you.
There can be no pretense anymore that what we are seeing, whether it's at a county level, whether it's the federal government, is election interference, is it not?
I think it is not only is it present and provable, it is practically the only motivation for all these indictments, of which the only one that has the slightest plausibility when examined legally is this documents thing.
Nonsense myself, and I don't think the sort of thing you indict former presidents on, given their powers to declassify.
But apparently some sort of a case can be made about obstruction and so on, which is, as you know, just a catchment when you haven't got anything else.
That's what the prosecutors resort to, but the rest of them are just nonsense.
Learned legal opinion, even from learned lawyers who don't politically support Trump or don't like him.
Jonathan Turley, Alan Dershowitz, Andy McCarthy, all say the other three have no merit at all.
And I haven't heard any serious person who knows anything about the law say otherwise.
So what can be the motive except precisely the one alleged?
Now, there is an individual I respect highly, along with, you know, Victor Davis Hanson, yourself, I rate as one of the best commentators, most sagacious observers of American politics, and that's a former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich.
When he gives an interview to my colleague, Charlie Kirk, about a week ago, and remember that he represented, he came from the state of Georgia, where Newt Gingrich, who is always very sober, says, He has, on reliable authority, been told that the Biden Department of Justice, on the Friday before it occurred, ordered the county prosecutor, Fannie Willis, in Georgia, to convene the grand jury and bring charges on the following Monday.
When the likes of Newt Gingrich say that, who's not a bomb-thrower by any means, what does that mean for the fabric of judicial equality before the law, that a federal authority behind the scenes is allegedly compelling a county prosecutor to bring charges against a former president?
Well, it confirms our worst fears, but they're widely held fears.
I agree that Newt Gingrich, being from Georgia, and being so well-connected, is a particularly credible source for such an assertion.
But many of us, including myself, have had experiences of different kinds with the way the criminal justice system in the U.S.
is administered.
And I think We can all, and certainly I can, confirm that it is very corrupt.
Justice is not blind.
There isn't an equal chance.
Prosecutors have a practically unlimited ability to extort and suborn evidence without any possibility of being held accountable for their actions.
They have an absolute immunity as long as they're acting in performance of their position.
And under the plea bargain system, they can threaten anybody with anything, give them an absolute guarantee of non-prosecution for perjury, extort the evidence they want, and convict on the basis of it.
That is a corrupt system.
One of the things that the country ultimately will be most grateful to Donald Trump for, whether he's re-elected or not, whatever happens in these trials, whatever the future may hold, is bringing the corruption, the rottenness of the American criminal justice system so forcefully to the attention of the country.
Because it has been languishing there, largely undetected, or in any case ignored, For decades and it's got worse and worse and worse and this is the most egregious example of it.
A former president, the leader of the opposition, in effect, the principal candidate opposing the incumbent administration, can be on a tight timetable, miraculously convenient to his political opponents, indicted on a bunch of charges that everybody who knows anything about it considers to be almost entirely spurious.
I mean, a justice system in which that can be done and is done is not justice.
You've written two autobiographies, A Life in Progress and A Matter of Principle, where you write in the latter your experience with basically politicized prosecutors and the American justice system.
Can you give us a glimpse into What that feels like, what President Trump must be feeling right now, because you've been there to have the weight of a system where, you know, 90% of the convictions actually go to a conviction of the individual.
You've lived that life.
Can you give us a glimpse into what it must be like as the President to be not just living through what you lived through, but four separate indictments with 91 collective charges?
It's a terrible feeling.
I would say that he has scores of millions of supporters.
He has practically unlimited resources with which to defend himself.
And he has, as we've just in this conversation and many other times and many other people have done it, we've been discussing the quality and extent of people supporting him and saying that the charges are as you and I have just described them.
So, you know, he had advantages that I didn't, but it is a terrible feeling when they're threatening to take your liberty away.
And in theory, you know, the various prosecutors Are asking juries to send the former president to prison for life.
I mean, I think the chances of that happening are small, but it's a very uneasy feeling.
It's a gun pointed at you.
And as you say, the odds are terrible.
In his case, I think they're better because most of the charges are so weak.
And the motive for laying them is so obvious, and his means are so great.
I think the chances of his going down on all these counts are zero.
But there is some threat to him, and it's terribly uneasy.
It's a threat of being sent to prison, put behind bars and kept there, and subject to the orders of the so-called correctional officers, most of whom are, you know, that's not skilled work.
And they're, for the most part, not terribly enlightened people.
Yeah, and do you think the trend line we have witnessed in the last six months continues?
That every time they ratchet up this perversion of the judicial system, he actually gains in popularity and gains more funding?
Do you think that's the future for the next 15 months?
I do, because I mean, I know there's this theory out there that there's just a sort of a pop that people at first thought sympathize with someone charged in this way.
There may be some of that, but I think, in fact, the answer to your question is yes,
because the people who dislike Trump dislike them anyway.
They don't dislike—it isn't more people who dislike him because of these charges,
in my opinion.
And the people who either like them or were neutral about them—and not so many people
are neutral—object to the clear possibility, to put it as mildly as we can, that this is
just an abuse of the system to try and get rid of a political opponent.
The overwhelming majority of Americans, if asked if they would approve of that in the abstract, would say, no, I don't approve of it.
And in this case, that isn't reflected in the polls, because there's a large number of people who are so hostile to Trump that they don't think of it in those terms and refuse to see it in those terms.
But the fact is, it is so clear and so obvious, and I think it'll become clearer.
I think that the Meadows request to be moved to a federal A charge is likely to be successful.
I think that prosecution could collapse.
I think the New York prosecution is complete nonsense.
I'd be astounded if that survived reference to a higher court pretrial.
And the Smith prosecution about the 6th of January is also nonsense.
I mean, the arbiter dictum is full of rhetoric and panegyrics about insurrection.
But that's not what Trump is accused of.
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George, your indictment in Canada in the media.
Well, you know, Canada is not very pro-Trump.
And indeed, I had a piece in the National Post that was a reprint from something that
I had in Real Clear and New York Sun that, you know, pointing out the facts more or less
as we've just been discussing them.
But, you know, even given that, you know, opinion is not particularly favourable to him up here, I think A great many people think that this is very odd and very dodgy and, you know, they may not like Trump but they're not in favor of one party using the Justice Department to try and eliminate an opponent.
Eric, do we have any cuts from the debate that you used while I was away?
We used several with Bob, I think, while you were away.
I'd like to get Conrad's take on the debate, so can you pick one?
Well, could we just play the one we haven't played yet of DeSantis raising his hand after everyone else?
Is that a good audio cut?
No, but I mean... Play it, let me see it.
Hang on, let me find it.
I'd like to have your...
Your analysis, Luke.
If former President Trump is convicted in a court of law, would you still support him as your party's choice?
That's good, that's good, that's good.
That's fine, that's fine.
Alright, awesome.
I'll tee that up for Lord Black.
Awesome, alright.
Okay, so I have to do... And I'll just place it, like, to Santa's footage or something?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I have to do podcast.
I have to do AMAC.
Okay, and then I'll tee up that cut and we'll discuss the debate, Conrad.
I sent Jeff the piece.
I have it in my hand.
I'm looking at it right now.
right now.
Oh, it's long.
wrong.
Longer than usual.
Maybe it's the font.
I always write about 1,200 words.
Oh, really?
Uh-huh.
I suppose if I were If I were better, I could make it shorter, but... I almost feel like I've got plenty to say.
I don't know if the readers think I do or not.
I'm sure they do.
I always try and keep it to a thousand, myself.
A lot of people, a lot of places now want, you know, seven, eight hundred words, which is... I'm just getting my throat cleared.
You know, you can do something short and punchy, but it may be a bit glib, you know?
You need to put some facts in, I think.
How do you think Vivek did?
I thought he was good, except he was adoying because he was always interrupting everybody.
And he was too flippant with, I wish you a happy career as a director of Raytheon and Lockheed.
You know, the bottom paid for by the packs.
I mean, you know, a young guy like that coming in saying all the veterans who've actually run for officer, just a bunch of puppets and crooks and so on is a bit much.
But he's a bright guy.
I think he's a man to watch.
Yeah, definitely.
Alright, 30 seconds, standby.
Oh, can you play Cut 4?
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We are back with Lord Conrad Black.
I was, of course, on vacation last week.
Thank you to all my guest hosts.
There was the debate on Wednesday evening.
Have to get Lord Black's take on it.
Here's the moment that...
I don't know.
He wasn't in the room.
The hosts called him the elephant not in the room.
But they had to ask about President Trump and Ron DeSantis' delay in response, raising his hand.
Well, it didn't sit well with many.
Let's listen to that one moment.
If former President Trump is convicted in a court of law, would you still support him as your party's choice?
Please raise your hand if you would.
Ron DeSantis looking around and waiting till everybody else has raised their
hands before he raised his.
In your latest article you have the title, First GOP debate throws Trump into sharp relief as the most capable and deserving candidate for the president.
Give us the winners and the losers of Wednesday night, Conrad.
I think starting with the losers.
Christy and Hutchison had no business being there.
They are not really Republicans.
They're both very proud of having been prosecutors.
They're part of that rotten prosecution system.
and then christian self-invented coming from the state where it used to be
uh... the old uh... the old by word that you know there's a recession when the
mafia slaying up judges uh... and and you know i had a bridge gate hanging around
his neck and so on uh... for him to say at the bay and they both said they
would in effect side with democratic prosecutors
uh... even in the district of columbia where where ninety five percent of the
people vote democrat and it's crime to be a republican in effect
uh... if it was a guilty verdict at first instance that disqualifies trump
And Christie went on to say that his conduct is such that he's disqualified, as if Christie was any great paragon of good conduct.
So, those two didn't belong there.
I would say that Ron Burgum and Senator Tim Scott It came across as good men, but not the gravitas needed to be present.
I say Mike Pence came across as clearly qualified, but sanctimonious, unimaginative, and kind of yesterday's man.
I think that Vivek is a man to watch, very bright, but glib, especially on foreign policy, and too quick to dismiss everybody else as crooked.
And he needs better debating manners, but he's He's an interesting man, a man to watch, but not president this time, I think.
That gets you to DeSantis, who is clearly qualified, but I thought that he's handicapped by his stance on abortion, waffled on Ukraine, and I think he basically struck out when Brent Bair asked people to raise their hand if they would support Trump, even if he had a conviction, and he looked around to see what the others did before he put his hand up.
That's not what a leader does.
So I think the strongest of the candidates on the night was Nikki Haley.
She was good on abortion.
She was good on Ukraine.
She was good on debt.
And, you know, spoke well, handled the issues well.
I personally think she's not as strong as Trump as a candidate, but she's fine.
And I think either Haley or Senator Scott from South Carolina would be perfectly good as vice president.
Now, when we look at the 15 months ahead, what is the play for the man who wasn't on the stage?
Number one, with impending debates, and then secondly, we've got the latest dates that the judge in DC wants to start the trial, literally the day before Super Tuesday.
Does the President, fight the good fight in the courtroom? Does he try and push
it off with appeals for, you know, this is an election season? What is the wisest way to
approach this multiple assault on his campaign?
Well, I have assumed all along that challenges to the validity and justiciability of the
arguments will knock out, as I said earlier in this exchange we've had, will knock out
some of them at the beginning.
They won't get anywhere near trial.
In the event that some of them are still proceeding to trial, I think the normal dilatory procedures, constant legitimate motions, where appropriate appeals of the decision on motions, will push it all back past the election anyway.
I think the prosecutors know that they are in a dream world imagining they're getting any of this into court for trial prior to the election.
If that's the case, they've lost their point, because the whole purpose of them was to sandbag Trump as a candidate.
I don't think we're going to get that calendar as it looks now, that he's in court at his own trial for weeks on end.
Criminal trials like that, especially with a large number of defendants, as some of them have, that they go on for months you know so it's not just when
they open. And in the last few seconds we have his approach to other debates once
the field has been winnowed down should he participate? Yeah I think once it's
winnowed down a bit I can't blame him for not wanting to be on the stage
listening to the nonsense of Hutchison and Christie but you know once it's winnowed down
a bit and especially if it's a little bit closer I think it would be
a good thing for him to show that those who say he's afraid of it are
completely wrong and it will just confirm his good judgment and having ignored
the earlier ones.
The latest piece in the New York Sun and elsewhere.
We are posting it.
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SebastianGawker.substack.com I presume you have to be downtown for the event
Oh, the event isn't till...
Person?
You know what?
Is that possible?
I think it might be.
I don't think he makes his way down here too often.
No.
We gotta have him in studio.
Well, we are, right, Geoff?
He's booked, right?
He's not booked yet, but he's... You gonna try and get him?
Yeah, we have been.
We just haven't... Okay.
I asked him for that day.
I haven't heard back yet.
Okay, for that day?
Yeah, because he said he was open.
Oh, well then we could just have lunch and bring him in.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Perfect.
You want to do a manhood hour with him on that note?
We could.
He was really good.
He did a super long interview with Jordan Peterson.
We could.
Oh, nice.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
I don't think we'll get another chance otherwise.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
All right, title for that one.
What did I put down?
It's a crime to be a Republican.
Nice.
Crime to be a Republican.
Well, speaking of, like, you know, Christie and Hutchinson colluding, people were sharing an image from the debate, like, I guess, during one of the breaks.
Christie went up to DeSantis and was, like, whispering something in his ear.
Oh, yeah!
I posted that.
I posted that image.
Links to... Buddies.
Christie and DeSantis.
Yeah.
Birds of a feather.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, I don't think the Santas is as scummy as Christie's are.
No, but I mean... I think Christie's just a scumbag.
Well, here's what I'm worried.
What?
He's very close with Hogan and Sununu.
And Hogan's now publicly saying that if it's Trump and Biden that there's gonna be someone on the no labels ticket.
I seriously think that's what Christie's doing.
But he's not gonna take any votes from anybody.
They might think it.
They might think they're gonna take two or three percent.
Oh, I believe that.
But do you think they would?
You think they'll do it?
No, I think they think they would get votes.
Absolutely, because they have an ego.
I think that's what the plan is.
You think?
Because it's not to win, obviously.
Well, and honestly, they'd probably take more votes away from Biden than from Trump.
For being honest, I mean, how many like never Trumpers are still Republicans at this point?
Good question.
It is, but I know MSNBC is not a fan of the no labels thing.
So that means it does hurt them.
They're terrified of it, yeah.
Ooh, is that true?
I've heard them saying it's not good.
I think maybe it was Axelrod or someone like that said something too, that it was a dumb idea.
Patriot Supply.
Patriot Supply here, yep.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Seven Great Men Works.
Who shaped your, you know, the young little Eric?
Who shaped your understanding of what it means to be a man?
Well, I write about that in another book.
I wrote a book, you mentioned seven men and seven more men, and that's all about manhood.
But I was shaped by my father, Nick Metaxas.
He's 96 years old today, by God's grace.
Wow, happy birthday, Nick.
Thank you.
He and I have the same birthday, actually.
June 27th, I was born on his 36th birthday.
My dad and my uncle Joe, I wrote a book called Fish Out of Water, and on the hardcover is a picture of my father.
You can't make this up, Sebastian.
My mother and father were on a date in 1957 at the Statue of Liberty.
My mother took a photo of my father in front of the Statue of Liberty.
It is an incredibly artistic photo.
It's on the cover of my memoir, Fish Out of Water.
My father and my uncle Joe, who was like a second father to me, they showed me what it was to be a man and that's a big Part of the story of life is that you learn mostly from other people.
The reason I write biographies is when you read the story of a great person, you want to be like them.
You want to emulate them.
And of course, the greatest example of that is to be around people that inspire you.
And so my dad, my uncle Joe, there was something about them.
They were very different men, but they were both manly men in their different ways.
You know, to be a man of character.
To be a man of character.
Just that.
Somebody that you know, if there's bad guys around, they're gonna protect me.
That they're gonna do the right thing.
They don't lie.
They pay their bills.
These are decent people.
You know, the basic things.
You don't need to be a Christian to get the basics.
And they got the basics, and they imparted those basics to me.
So I I volunteer them.
My Uncle Joe, who has passed, and my Dad, whom I love and who's still with us.
We have the photograph.
It's quite stunning.
We're going to put it up on the screen momentarily.
Go further, because I want you to explicate, give us some more of the adjectives, some more of the qualities and virtues.
If you had to prepare a curricula for the 10-year-old, the 12-year-old young boys in America that will bring us back to manhood, what are the qualities we should be teaching them, Eric?
These are the kinds of things, I didn't even notice them at the time.
I thought it was normal, because I was blessed to be raised by a father who provided for his family.
He worked hard.
I usually wear a watch that was given to him after 10 years.
He worked at Technicon, drove an hour there and an hour home.
That faithfulness to work hard for your family.
Let me tell you something.
That makes a mark on your kids.
When they see you sacrifice for them, there is no getting around that.
That teaches you respect.
When somebody, they pay their bills.
I never even thought that my father would lie.
I mean, you hear sometimes about people that have these very dysfunctional parents who lie or cheat on each other or whatever.
And you think, when you're raised by somebody where that's not even anywhere near.
And my father was not preaching Christianity.
My father was not talking about he's getting this from the Bible.
This is just fundamental values of right and wrong.
But that's the kind of stuff, when you're surrounded by that, it's unavoidable that you will become that way.
And there he is in 1957.
That photograph, I'm sorry, I have never seen a photograph of anyone from the pedestal of Ellis Island with the Statue of Liberty.
Did you say your uncle took that of your father?
My mother and father were on a date.
My mother, who's no particular photographer, she just snapped that shot.
And when I saw it, I thought, this is art.
This is amazing.
And, um, but it is an interesting thing that, that, you know, paying your bills, being a man of your word.
These are big things, uh, in life that, that, that if you're a man of your word, when you say something, you do it.
That's one of the things I love about president Trump.
People talk about character promises, made promises, kept.
That is the biggest character issue.
When you talk, are your words worth anything?
Um, to me, that's a real man.
And when my father said something, uh, if he, if he owed a bill, he paid the bill.
It was not, there was no question of anything like that.
And, um, I just have to say, and the other thing I can say too, is that, you know, my father was, was very affectionate with me and my brother.
He, he loved us.
And so we're affectionate with him and with our families.
Was that a Greek thing?
Because your father's generation is, you know, the great generation and often they say that they didn't emote, as they say.
Is that a Greek thing or was your dad a bit unique?
You know, it's it's it's it's odd because I don't know my mother now who is German, you'd expect her to be kind of chilly, just the opposite tremendously affectionate.
So I don't know if it's a European thing.
Both of them grew up without fathers, my father and my mother when they were 10 years old independently lost their fathers.
So I don't really know but but that That affection is something that, you know, really, again, I thought that was normal, that they would be affectionate and stuff and, you know, and strict.
But that's a part of love, too, is being strict.
But I think that people often think that I want to do something great in life.
If you're just a great father and a great husband, as a man, everything else will take care of itself.
That's really at the heart of it.
And it's a funny thing when we talk about America and freedom.
I wrote another book called If You Can Keep It, A Forgotten Promise of American Liberty, and in that book, I had never seen this in my life, there is no way to have liberty on the American model if people do not have virtue, if they are not self-governing.
So if you do not have men and women of character in your country, you can never conceivably have freedom.
This is the important point about what de Tocqueville and others understood about our Republic and what makes it unique.
You don't have to be a Christian to be an American, but America only works if those who are Americans have Christian virtues.
You don't have to necessarily believe in God and go to church on Sunday, but if you don't have the Christian virtues, Then the whole liberty thing and the whole prosperity thing just falls apart.
The book is Letter to the American Church from our friend Eric Metaxas.
The other book you need to get right now is Bonhoeffer as well, but anyone with his name on the spine is worth your time.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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A couple of more questions.
Are you a pessimist?
When you look at our civilization, when you look at what's happened in America in the last few years, the sheer insanity of what the left has become, are you a pessimist or an optimist?
Well, I guess that's, you know, I don't mean to bring it back to the book, but that's literally why I wrote the book, because I feel that It would be like asking George Washington in 1776, hey, how's it going?
In the natural, it's going very poorly.
But his answer would be, if providence be for us, we can win.
If we will keep fighting and look to God to do what is right, I believe we're There's a parallel there in this country.
In other words, the way things look now, it looks terrible.
There's no question.
But I actually, look, I believe in miracles.
I've experienced many miracles.
I believe God's hand is still on this country, but it is up to the people in this country.
Will we respond to him?
And again, I speak to my fellow Christians most pointedly.
God has given you an assignment.
You look the other way, if you even say like, oh, you know what?
It's too far gone.
Who cares?
That's the devil talking.
If you do nothing, if you cease to fight for what is right and true and good.
So I am very cautiously optimistic, Sebastian, because I believe in miracles.
I don't believe this country should have come into being in the first place.
We shouldn't have survived the Civil War.
We should not be here.
And the fact that we are here now seems to me that God is using all of these horrors, all of these unbelievable, unprecedented evils, To wake up those who might yet be awakened.
Not everyone, but there are many, I think, who are waking up right now.
They're looking around and saying, there's no other explanation for this.
This is evil.
This is sick.
We've got to do something about this.
And the more they attack President Trump, the more people are saying, you know what?
This looks political.
Maybe I didn't vote for him, but this doesn't seem like the America that I grew up in.
These things are happening.
I believe it's God's mercy to wake up people who are still sleeping.
And if enough people wake up, by the grace of God, we will take the country back.
But we're in a war.
We have to fight.
And we have to look to God in the middle of the battle.
If you just think, you know, we're going to do it on our own, that's a joke.
We didn't get here on our own.
And we can't save this nation on our own.
You mentioned President Trump.
This is the manhood hour.
You should do politics the other 14 hours of our show every week.
But I have a theory and I'm curious whether you concur.
They hate him because he's not a member of the elite.
He has nothing to do with the Uniparty.
He's not owned by, you know, big business, by, you know, the pharma companies, the oil companies, or by the unions.
I get it, right?
Number one, he's not owned by them, therefore he's a threat.
But the other thing I think that partially explains just the rank of etuporation and the utter hatred Is that he is a man's man.
Yes.
He's so... You know that little Kim in North Korea is afraid of him.
You know that bad guys fear him.
And that just irks the bi-coastal, pasty elite.
And they hate him because he's a man's man.
What do you think?
No, no.
You've absolutely put your finger on it.
I've said the same thing on my own radio program.
And I want to make the larger point.
They hate him because of that, but their hatred of real manhood, as their hatred of many of these things, of virtue, of any of these things that we're talking about, is at its heart a hatred of God and of God's values.
It is, I mean, the transgender madness is a desire to destroy.
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