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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: The power of a mugshot

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	first with Sebastian Borja.
	Greetings!
	Welcome, dear friends.
	It's great to be back.
	Thank you for your patience whilst I was away, and I hope you enjoyed our guest hosts that stood in for me from Los Angeles, Jennifer Horne and Grant Stinchfield, and Thursday and Friday, Bob France.
	Thank you so kindly.
	But it is so good to be back after a week away.
	So much to discuss.
	Of course, The world keeps turning when I'm not in the chair.
	We had the GOP debate, the first primary debate, and then we had the arrest of President Trump on the fourth indictment, this time in Georgia, and the quote-unquote mugshot that was heard around the world.
	A mugshot that my friend Kathy immediately sent me a picture of an American eagle.
	And she said, I've seen that look before.
	And I reposted, I hate the phrase mugshot, the booking photograph of the president with a bald eagle looking straight at the camera.
	And yeah, there's something there.
	That indomitable spirit, that pure Americana in both of those images.
	So much to discuss.
	We have an incredible, incredible list of guests for you today.
	No Manhood Hour.
	We're going to postpone that until tomorrow because we've got none other than Governor Mike Huckabee to talk about the events of the last week and the last two years one-on-one.
	You do not want to miss a second of our discussion with one of the most successful conservatives in America, a former governor and a man who stands steadfastly behind my former boss President Trump with a full-throated endorsement of the 45th president to become the 47th president of the United States.
	Make sure you are subscribed to the podcast of America first wherever you get your podcasts just put in Sebastian Gawker America first never miss an episode any of our specials making movies great again the manhood our the one-on-ones leave us a five-star review and share the links with your friends and more important than that Support President Trump.
	He's spending at least a million dollars a week on legal fees, four sets of indictments, 91 charges, totaling more than 400 years in prison.
	Please go to DonaldJTrump.com.
	That's DonaldJTrump.com.
	If you give $5, if you give, you know, $500, it all makes a difference.
	This is the man who stepped into the breach for us.
	Please go to DonaldJTrump.com.
	And tell the world who you are.
	We designed it the day of the arrest.
	It is the indictment booking photograph, the mugshot, as a t-shirt that says Trump 2024.
	The most famous image in the world today.
	More famous than the Mona Lisa, I would say.
	You can get a mug, you can get a t-shirt.
	We're going to have one in the studio imminently to show you.
	That's sebgorkestore.com.
	Tell the world that you're with the outlaw.
	As somebody commented at the weekend, who was it?
	Oh, Sean Davis, I think, on Twitter.
	How stupid is the left?
	Really how stupid?
	I mean, you don't have to be born in America to understand that Americans like outlaws.
	From Josie Wales on down, outlaws are celebrated all the way to the Dukes of Hazzard.
	And they thought the mugshot would hurt President Trump.
	He's raised more than eight million dollars in the first two days since the arrest in Georgia.
	That's how out of touch these people are.
	So out of touch they don't understand what President Trump has become.
	He's not a leader of a party.
	He's a leader of a movement.
	Just listen to one of the wisest men in America, former Speaker Newt Gingrich.
	I think that Trump is not a candidate.
	Trump is the leader of a movement.
	He's the personification of an establishment that is totally corrupt, destroying anything that gets in its way.
	Interestingly, for example, his support among African-American males has gone up dramatically.
	And the reason is simple.
	They feel that the police have harassed them.
	They're now watching the government harass Trump.
	They actually identify with what he's going through.
	I think many people who may or may not like Trump's personality, but they look at this and they think, let me go.
	Here are my choices.
	I'm going to side with a totally corrupt administration or I'm going to side with a guy who has the guts to stand there and take the beating and keep coming.
	I mean, you know, Trump could easily have retired.
	And if he'd retired, none of these charges would ever have occurred.
	And instead, he said, you know, the country's worth going through this.
	It really boils down to that.
	that's given him support in places that normally wouldn't have supported him.
	But they realize if your only two choices are to reinforce a totally sick, corrupt,
	authoritarian system or to be with a guy who's taking it head on, I think that the country
	is in fact going to nominate Trump.
	It really boils down to that.
	I mean, that's why he's Newt Gingrich.
	Your choice is a man who's going to fight, fight, fight for you.
	Or Joe Biden.
	Nobody else.
	I mean, pick any other person on that stage, including DeSantis, who looks around to see whether everyone else has raised their hand first.
	They're not going to do what needs to be done.
	And to that end, I'm going to touch on a thorny issue.
	That song that went ballistic, number one on the Billboard charts, The Rich Men North of Richmond from Oliver Anthony, he tweeted the following at the weekend, and I just have to respond.
	I don't support either side, politically.
	Not the left, not the right.
	I'm about supporting people and restoring local communities.
	Now go breathe some fresh air and relax, please.
	I'm not worth obsessing over.
	I promise.
	Go spend some time with your loved ones.
	Whilst I like the second half of that message.
	Go outside, be with your loved ones.
	Touch some grass, as the kids say.
	I cannot, cannot condone the first part.
	I don't support either side, left or right.
	Now, I get it if you're talking about parties, Mr. Anthony.
	Because I don't like the GOP.
	And I'm a conservative.
	And the left are lunatics.
	But... You have to choose a side.
	You can't be in the middle.
	There is no middle.
	Why?
	Because when one side of the political divide, Mr. Oliver Antony, is dedicated to destroying everything you hold dear, all the things you sung about in that meteoric song, well, if those things mean anything to you, You've already chosen a side.
	Unless you're fine with those things you love being destroyed.
	So enough with the, I'm not in a tribe, I don't want to pick sides.
	When one side wants to destroy everything you hold sacred and dear and close to your heart, you have no choice but to pick a side.
	It doesn't have to be the side of institutionalized politics.
	God forbid!
	I don't want the GOP strengthened.
	I want the conservative movement, the one Newt speaks of, to be strong enough to dash, to destroy, to utterly annihilate the lunatics, the transgender open borders, cisgender patriarchy must be destroyed crazies.
	But if your song means anything, if you care for those communities you sing about and you're not just writing some abstract song, wake up man!
	You've already chosen a side!
	It's like all those people who say, oh, I like my guns, but I don't do politics.
	What are you talking about?
	If you believe in the Second Amendment and they want to strip you of your rights to own a gun, guess what?
	You're already on a political side, whether you like it or not, because they've politicized everything from the gender of children to whether we can have a border To putting a former president in prison.
	Choose a side!
	Because if you don't, they'll get away with it.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Support the president, donaldjtrump.com, make a donation today, and get one of our mugshot t-shirts to tell the world whose side you're on, because I know you're on the right side.
	SebGorGastor.com. That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A SebGorGastor.com.
	♪♪♪ Fruit for the poor.
	Uh, thanks.
	Geoff, don't forget Friday I'm, uh, hosting Rob Schmidt.
	Yep, I saw that.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	We should probably start thinking about guests for that, just because it's Friday, Labor Day weekend.
	Yes.
	If we can't get any of the guests for my show, then try them for Friday.
	That records live, right?
	That'll be live, 7 o'clock, yeah.
	Do you want to use the audio here?
	Play it again.
	Stand by.
	The word gift means everything because it gives them peace of mind.
	Imagine being a parent and knowing, okay, you're suffering, but how do you... Come in with that playing over the b-roll, okay?
	Got it.
	Guys, you got the b-roll?
	The just b-roll?
	Or maybe the image of the website?
	No, no, no, no.
	Unless it's completely irrelevant until I talk about the website, right?
	So, just the b-roll.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Are we dining drawn up?
	Uh, he didn't answer.
	I just let his assistant know.
	But he confirmed the new time, right?
	Yeah.
	Title for that monologue.
	Uh.
	Oliver Anthony is wrong.
	All right.
	Colon choose a side.
	Hey, Sam.
	Hey, buddy.
	Mic's on.
	How are you?
	What a story.
	What a story.
	Yeah, it's important.
	Yeah, this is a litigation goes all the way back to my 2021 request.
	Incredible.
	I thought I wrote a lot of emails.
	Unbelievable.
	Yeah, and you know there's something in them because the National Archives are playing keep away.
	Sir, we're not seeing your video.
	Oh yeah, we can't see your video.
	You can't see my video?
	Yep.
	Shows is transmitting from here.
	Let me hang up a dial.
	It says video starting when it gets frozen on that.
	Yeah, just started again.
	Are you guys seeing me?
	You're not, huh?
	No.
	Can you dial us?
	Can you dial us?
	Uh, you know, I... Hey, DeFi?
	We may still be having some problems with that.
	I've sent Salem IT an email about that.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, because I'm transmitting from here, but I don't see it coming back through the loop.
	I could definitely see myself transmitting.
	All right, we'll just use B-roll.
	Eric, we'll need... Sorry.
	That's probably offside.
	Mic's off.
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	There is an active shooter situation at UNC Chapel Hill right now.
	20-odd-year-old Asian allegedly is at large on the campus.
	There is a lockdown shelter-in-place order.
	We have no news of injuries.
	We will give you any updates as soon as we have them.
	Let's go to our first guest of the day with a shocking story he sent me about an hour ago.
	It is, of course, from justthenews.com, John Solomon.
	John, happy Monday!
	Happy Monday, good to be with you.
	All right, so I couldn't even believe the headline of the story you sent me about two hours ago.
	National Archives acknowledges 5,400 Biden pseudonym emails faces lawsuit for your release.
	This is a story that's personal to you, so tell us how Robert L. Peters, the pseudonym for Vice President Biden, how he has Thousands of emails in the National Archives!
	Yeah, so this is a FOIA that I started, Freedom of Information Act request.
	I started with the National Archives back in 2021, alongside of the Southeastern Legal Foundation, which is a public interest law firm, done a lot of work with us in getting transparency.
	There are three email accounts we've been asking for.
	Robin Ware, JRB Ware, and Robert Peters.
	Those are the three pseudonyms that we knew Joe Biden was using to conduct official government business and conversations with Hunter Biden's business partners in Hunter Biden.
	We know that because some of them showed up on the Hunter Biden laptop and some of them showed up in some earlier government emails that I got and some of them I was told by a source was the way Joe Biden sometimes operated when he was moving information around.
	So we filed the FOIA in 2021.
	In 2022 we refiled the FOIA and today the Southeastern Legal Foundation formally sued saying that the National Archives are not in compliance.
	Now before we got to that point The National Archives came back and said, well, there are 5,400
	responsive emails to your FOIA.
	So we know the total number of emails that are involved with those three email addresses that
	are pseudonym email addresses for Joe Biden, but we don't have any of their content. They're holding
	it back. The National Archives, which was so eager to raid Donald Trump's property at Mar-a-Lago
	and has given up lots of information to other people.
	Not so forthcoming when it comes to Hunter Biden and Joe Biden's private email correspondence.
	That's why we sued today.
	So the first reports, these are government email accounts, correct?
	Well, they were corresponding with government email accounts.
	Now, because Joe Biden was conducting official government business, he had an obligation to preserve any content in these email addresses.
	Now, we don't know whether Joe Biden gave these emails over or whether other people had the contacts because their official government emails preserved them.
	That's one of the questions at dispute in this litigation.
	We're very excited to get this to the next phase.
	We think there's some very important information in these 5,400 emails.
	But it speaks to, I don't know, a kind of amateurism?
	That if you're doing something devious, if you're using a pseudonym to hide your identity as vice president to do whatever nefarious thing you're doing, then surely the idea is not to have the emails archived.
	Am I missing something?
	Well, one of the problems is if they corresponded from a private email address with the government, the government kept that part of the transaction.
	And that may have been what happened here.
	We don't know if Joe Biden turned over his email accounts that are relevant.
	That's one of the open questions that are involved in the litigation.
	But if you use your private email address and you are not circumspect and you sent it
	or they sent something to your private email address from a government address,
	the government captured that part of the transaction at least, and that's what we think happened here.
	But 5,400 times, it makes Joe Biden a pretty regular private email user
	with government business.
	And I think the American public would be eager to know what government business he was doing
	Why was it on a private email account?
	And how many times were Hunter Biden and his partners looped in when he used the private email account?
	I think that's going to be one of the big questions for Congress.
	As I told you offline, I thought I use email a lot, but 5,000 pseudonymous emails are absolutely stunning.
	Got to get your response.
	We've got like 90 seconds left, but you know, you are a media mogul now.
	Your reaction to the fact that, what was there, 10 million, 15 million, I don't know, there's a healthy viewership for the Fox GOP debate, but Tucker Carlson's interview with President Trump gets 220 million views in the first five days.
	Is media changing forever, John?
	It is.
	This is another example of being able to go around the gatekeepers.
	That's what you do so effectively with your show every day, Seb, what I try to do with just the news.
	The American people no longer are content to accept their news just from traditional news media.
	They've been burned too many times and so they want to go see for themselves and that's what the Twitter event with Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump gave us.
	It's what your show gives every day.
	The media paradigm has shifted forever and it's a result of The establishment media's many failures.
	All the times they told you you were wrong when you were right.
	All the times that they censored information that turned out to be true.
	Every time they had a fact check that really wasn't factual at all.
	The American people got wise and that's why they're turning to all of these new sources to go around the blockade of information that the traditional media have done.
	Certainly since 2015 with Russia Collusion and Everything Suns.
	I don't think he was talking about me when he said all the things that you got right.
	I think he's talking about himself because he has been getting it right.
	You were right there.
	No, no, no, no.
	You literally wrote the book.
	If you haven't got it on your library shelf, get it right now.
	Fallout, nuclear bribes, Russian spies, and the Washington lies that enriched the Clinton and Biden dynasties.
	Watch this man every night.
	Just the news, not noise.
	And follow him at Jay Solomon Reports.
	The article is posted at my Twitter, Facebook.
	Read it right now.
	Shocking information.
	Thanks to our friend John Solomon.
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	That's sebastiangawker.substack.com, sebastiangawker.substack.com.
	Next up, A very, very sober anniversary.
	♪♪ ...vacation.
	Oh, yeah.
	You're in Florida, right?
	Mike's home.
	You know we had a Sprinter van, right?
	Yeah.
	But it wasn't customized.
	So we bought one of the decked out ones today.
	You're going to sell the other one?
	Yeah.
	So tell me what's in it.
	Everything.
	It's got a real bed.
	It's got a shower, bathroom.
	Whoa.
	Is it a bed?
	Yeah.
	It's got a bed.
	It's got a shower.
	Is it bigger?
	Or is it the same size?
	It's a short one, but it's very well done.
	Wow.
	And it's got multiple seating areas that swivel.
	Do you want a line on here?
	Cigar bar.
	On the roof.
	To get you back in the groove.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Do you want to take a line, too, now, to get you back in the groove?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Give me a line, too.
	Mic's on.
	Oh, he dropped off.
	Oh, the poor little libtard.
	He's a scratch.
	I want to talk Afghanistan anniversary.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	All right, I'll tee up... I'll do... My Patriots have played and I'll tee up the news from that day.
	Cut one.
	Yeah, cut one and then we'll go to the gym.
	Have you got his book?
	Get based, yeah.
	Do you want serious music?
	Just do the Warlords.
	Yeah, do the Warlords.
	Okay, just the Warlords.
	And then I'm doing my Patriot at the top.
	Pantry at the top.
	Oh, title for John?
	For John.
	Why is Biden hiding 5,000 pseudonymous emails?
	The anniversary is Saturday, right, Jeff?
	It's what it said in the article.
	Okay.
	I'm going to ask you a slightly different question.
	Not just the lack of honor or responsibility you hear, but how do enemies and allies look at it.
	All right?
	As a ticket to ride.
	Right.
	One minute, coming in with Patriot supply.
	Yeah, it was the 26th.
	So, yeah, two days ago.
	Saturday.
	Thanks for coming in.
	I'm going to do a little bit of a review.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you and God bless you.
	America First!
	Two years ago Saturday, 13 Americans died needlessly.
	We don't broadcast on Saturday.
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	But we have to remember, because this administration won't remember it, the 13 who were killed at Kabul International Airport two years ago on Saturday.
	Who better to discuss it with than a man who's worn the cloth of the Republic?
	You know who he is, because he sits in this chair very, very Very often.
	Jim Hansen, thank you for coming in studio.
	Good to be with you, Sam.
	So, I, you know, we could spend the next couple of segments talking about the responsibility that is incumbent upon a Secretary of Defense and National Security Advisor, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
	But let me do something a little bit different, because you know how the enemy thinks, right?
	You have your podcast with our buddy Kurt Schlichter, Warlords.
	Even the US Army now has this new MOS, as of about six, seven years ago, the Red Team Officer, that advises, you know, the boss as to Okay, what's our enemy thinking right now in theatre?
	What are our enemies and our friends thinking about that event where 13 marines, a green beret and a corpsman were killed in this, I can't even call it an evacuation.
	How do they think about it?
	They think it shows the incompetence and how the Biden administration can be played.
	Both the Taliban and the Qataris played Joe Biden and his administration.
	The way it actually went down is the Qataris paid the Taliban on our behalf to supposedly provide security for this evacuation, this exfil.
	What a complete debacle that was.
	If you trust the Taliban to be your security, you're an idiot.
	They were, and it cost American lives.
	You mean the Taliban that sheltered bin Laden?
	Those guys.
	They were given money by the state that used to fund the Muslim Brotherhood.
	And still does.
	And still does.
	To what?
	Affect security?
	Yeah, how'd that work out?
	It worked out exactly how anyone with an above room temperature IQ would know it would work out.
	And that's the problem.
	Everybody looks at the Biden administration, they see that doddering dementia patient, and they know they can take his lunch money, which is our lunch money and our security.
	So there's nobody in the world who takes us seriously, and consequently our enemies are emboldened and bad things are happening around the world.
	So, I don't know if you can help me with this, but My big question for you, and I'll let you ponder it, is how does that happen?
	Because we've got, what is it?
	A million and a half people with secret clearances.
	We've got four-star generals.
	We've got a tank in the Joint Chiefs that's supposed to be thinking about this stuff.
	Yes, the guy can be a dodderer.
	But how does somebody not say, hang on, you don't evacuate from the indefensible airport downtown.
	You go to Bagram, which we can secure out in the sticks.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	You don't leave the civilians and get the military out first.
	You get the civilians out first and then the military switches off the light when we leave.
	We will continue with our good buddy Jim Hansen, also often guest host.
	It is The Warlord Show, the podcast with our friend Kurt Schlichter.
	Follow this man at Jim Hansen DC.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	I'm sure somebody did, but the problem is... But nobody who had an effect.
	Exactly.
	And nobody who said it, if they did, resigned when they were ignored.
	Yeah, I know.
	That's the issue.
	The falling on the sword is just... We're past it.
	It's sad.
	When was the last time that happened?
	Vietnam?
	Did anybody resign?
	I can't even... Yeah, a couple of guys.
	Senior guys.
	Yeah.
	Consequences are gone, you know?
	Well, when you got loonies, I mean, Petraeus gave an interview in the Wall Street Journal this year where he said, you know what?
	The trouble is, we didn't give them long enough in Afghanistan.
	And you're going, 20 years?
	I mean, are you smoking crack?
	20 years isn't enough.
	I swear to God, I sat around a table at Heritage with all the other think tank heads, all of them.
	And it was me and Fred Flights, we're the only two, who were not, if you were arguing about Afghanistan, who were not willing to stay there until the end of time.
	Because there was, because we can't afford... Cato couldn't have been the... We can't afford, who?
	Cato, the Libertarians couldn't have... Yeah, no, they weren't there.
	It was everybody, but all, everybody on our team.
	I couldn't believe these people.
	They're like, we can't afford not to.
	What's your plan to win?
	We can't afford to leave.
	What's your plan to win?
	Define victory for me.
	Couldn't do it.
	It was shameful.
	Hey, did you read Ramaswamy's piece in American Conservative?
	No.
	It's fucking outstanding.
	What day?
	I think it came out today.
	Oh.
	I saw it today.
	It's an America first foreign policy, dude.
	Yeah.
	And I could have written it.
	Is he still down on Israel?
	He left Israel out.
	See, his marketing team is top notch.
	Yeah, but his national security team isn't.
	Oh, I know, but if you read this piece and you didn't... I'm looking for it.
	It's a truly good... Got it.
	Is it on his website?
	I'm sending it to you now.
	A viable realism.
	I've heard that before.
	I didn't disagree with a single thing in it.
	I just don't believe it.
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	Come on, guys!
	Enough of the footage of your dozens of law enforcement vehicles, radio cars outside Chapel Hill.
	Why haven't they given this guy a dirt nap or at least arrested him?
	I mean, seriously, how many cops do you need to find this guy?
	I mean, the days of, uh, create a barricade and get the hostage negotiated.
	No!
	You go in there and you find him.
	And you deal death, like, to that transvestite.
	Scumbag that killed those children, right?
	You don't wait, you go in.
	Come on guys, you know what needs to be done.
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	Jim, I know it's naive of me to ask, but The biggest government in the world.
	I mean, seriously, the most powerful government in the world.
	And nobody said, uh, don't do that, Mr. President, in Afghanistan.
	Or they said it, were ignored, but Jim, they didn't resign?
	Yeah, nobody cares.
	I mean, there's no accountability like that.
	There's no honor in people who know when something bad is going on.
	The other problem is they purged all the warriors again.
	You know, once they said they've been social engineering the military toward this, that didn't just happen when Biden came to office.
	That started with Obama.
	So it went through Trump, and he may have slowed it down a little, but that was only four years.
	Obama had eight, and now we've had this.
	We don't have the warriors leading us.
	We've got the woke mob.
	I've had it confirmed for me that your old stomping ground, Bragg, is under... Fort Liberty.
	No, never Fort Liberty, is now under control.
	There is a political matrix above it and let's just say this wokeness has infected Fort Bragg.
	Did you ever think that would happen?
	No, I mean, I didn't until the last five to six years when everything came to it.
	You know, we all saw it happening.
	It was a slow roll.
	You know, they were boiling the frog.
	Until Trump came in and then they ripped the mask off and said, screw it, we're just going to go crazy.
	And we're changing everything.
	Fundamental transformation, like Obama started.
	And now we've got nobody who has old school beliefs in positions of power.
	It's all people who have new school beliefs.
	And that new school is the old school of communism.
	Why do they allow that?
	Because I don't believe they believe this stuff.
	They just know that on the, you know, officer review, that's what they will be looking for.
	Therefore, I will spout, you know, climate garbage and equity and blah, blah, blah.
	Where are the people who say no?
	Are they just like, Have they all been cowed or left early or what?
	I think a lot of them got out.
	I mean, if you think about it, of the officers now, most of the generals were Obama choices, right?
	So we lost the warrior class through that.
	And now anyone who was below flag officer rank came from a college that was woke.
	So they were indoctrinated.
	So now we don't even have, we're not even starting with a warrior class, we're starting with a woke class.
	And out of that, they're promoting the ones who spout it the hardest and do it.
	Because once you get past field grade, you're a politician in the military.
	All general officers are politicians first and leaders second.
	So, we salute those who gave the ultimate measure, as President Lincoln said outside Kabul International Airport two years ago, last Saturday.
	What is your message to those who are junior rank, you know, NCOs as well, who are still in and hoping that their career is salvageable in terms of patriots in the military?
	You've worn that uniform.
	What do you say to them, Jim?
	Have hope. You know, it's a it's a heck of a fight because that's such a big one.
	Once they start the social engineering, now we've got a generational fight to reclaim the military,
	unless because of the Biden administration's incompetence, we end up at war with the Chinese,
	which is a distinct possibility because they're just that bad. They're giving Iran money. You
	know, Iran and China are back channeling together.
	So all of the bad things that could happen are in play, and we don't have a fighting military to deter anybody from doing anything.
	So keep your head down.
	You know, don't fight it from the inside, because you're not going to win.
	Well, let's see if we can make the conditions different in 2024.
	Last question, change of topic.
	John Solomon broke this news on the show about 30 minutes ago, thanks to his court case with the National Archives.
	Weird that these documents are very different.
	Handling protocol to the ones that they had to raid President Trump's residence for.
	Why would a vice president have more than 5,000 pseudonymous emails?
	Because he's running a corrupt criminal enterprise with his degenerate, crackhead, whoremongering son to take foreign money and sell access to the Vice President's office.
	That's why.
	And what, as a former USG employee, what would you think would happen to me, working in the White House as just a, you know, humble deputy to the President, if I'd requested three Sudonymous email accounts.
	Oh, they would have led you out in handcuffs.
	They would have frog-marched you out in chains with every media outlet in the world watching and filming.
	Guys, wrap your head around this.
	As Vice President, not as, you know, former Senator, as Vice President, Joe Biden had three fake email accounts.
	At least 5,000 messages sent on them, including to Ukrainian businessmen detailing his phone calls and meetings with the then-president of Ukraine.
	Oh, and if that weren't enough, Copied on those pseudonymous emails was an individual who goes by the name of Hunter Biden.
	You know the one with whom Joe Biden says he has never discussed his business dealings?
	Well, except for copying him on his emails to a Ukrainian businessman that his son was in business with.
	So much to discuss, so little time.
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	That we're going to give the American people a standard bearer for the GOP that's going to be able to lead us to victory against Joe Biden and the radical left.
	Really, Mike?
	What are you now, the Oracle of Delphi, making predictions?
	The man who said two days before January 6th, we are gonna do what has to be done.
	Well, you didn't.
	You're a coward.
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	George, line four.
	Welcome.
	It's good to have you back, Dr. Gorka.
	It's good to be back.
	I hope you had a wonderful vacation.
	I did thank you.
	I did thank you.
	What's your comment?
	What's your question?
	Oh, quickly, thank you for your book.
	I received it this weekend.
	And I really put a smile on my face when I saw your signature on it.
	Thank you so much.
	You're welcome.
	Well, I have a t-shirt, President Trump's picture that they took at the police station, and underneath it says Guilty of loving and fighting for America.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	I've been thinking of one that says, I'm with the outlaw.
	But I will think on that one as well.
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	Let's go to Brian Sacramento.
	Welcome back, Dr. Gorka.
	My girlfriend and I are related to Jason Aldean's songs, Try That in a Small Town.
	We exercised our First Amendment right in 2020, and we got attacked by Antifa many times, and one time in downtown, and 15 cars were destroyed total by them.
	And then Oliver Anthony's song, which revealed corruption in US Congress and whatnot, and it hit people's heart and us emotionally, but he was interviewed recently, as you said, In contrast, he says, well, I just wrote this song to bring us together.
	I'm not sure, from what I saw, the Antifa, the soldiers of the left, which are communists, I have anything in common with them.
	I don't know if I have anything in common with people who are indoctrinating our kids.
	Now they're using Obama judges to keep the parents away from their children.
	I have nothing in common with communism.
	Another, on another note, Vivek is a corrupt person, in my opinion.
	He wrote a book in 2020 attacking President Trump on January 6th and commending Pence,
	and now he's switching 180 degrees.
	He's nothing but a shyster, in my opinion.
	I'm sorry to be harsh, but he is what he is.
	He's just power hungry.
	He switches and changes colors like a lizard.
	Well, thank you.
	Thank you, Brian.
	Thank you.
	And I couldn't agree more.
	You cannot compromise with those who wish to destroy you.
	No, you must destroy them first.
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	But first, it's not just me, a guy was born in England, who legally emigrated to the United States, that is a warning of the The rise of the communists here in America.
	It's those who have suffered under communism, who understand that it's not just about the president.
	She grew up in Communist China, and she's a warrior princess.
	For the truth, here in America today, as an American citizen, she's going to be on my Newsmax show this coming Sunday.
	You don't want to miss that.
	Every Sunday night, 7 p.m.
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	Cut five.
	Forget about Donald Trump.
	What's happening in America is that the party in power is abusing their power and going after any oppositions.
	Now it's Donald Trump, now it's MAGA, but eventually it's everybody because communists Our regime would not tolerate any opposition, any dissenting voices.
	So they're coming after all of us, including those who are cheering now for Trump's indictment, and they think they are on the winning team.
	They're not.
	We all will become victims if we let them succeed.
	The President has said many, many times before, it's not about me, it's about you.
	I'm just in their way.
	But she's right.
	If we don't support him and get him re-elected, we will all be victims of the permanent bureaucracy.
	Let's go to your calls.
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	Coming to us from New Mexico, James.
	Happy Monday, James.
	3 3 3 4 6 7 5 2 coming to us from New Mexico James happy Monday James
	How's it going Dr. G? What's the deal with Newsmax that they put Jason
	Nichols, Barney Frank and even Geraldo on there to to spew their lies?
	Geraldo?
	Hang on, when was Geraldo on Newsmax?
	He was on there with Bolling.
	Oh, as a guest?
	Okay.
	Look, I know why Jason Nichols is there, because it gives somebody for Chris Plant and the other three conservatives to joust with.
	I know, but we don't want to hear the lies.
	I could turn the channel to MSDNC if I wanted to.
	No, no, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	It's a little bit different when everybody on the channel is a lunatic, including the hosts.
	Eric Bolling is a friend of mine, and I think Eric Bolling and Chris Plant and everybody else is demonstrating, simply by allowing these people to open their mouths, how crazy they are, isn't it?
	Isn't it important to sometimes see how nuts they are, James?
	You can't just live in a bubble listening to just conservatives because that's what the left does.
	They live in a bubble and they only hear their own lunacy.
	But those of us with half of our brains tied behind our back know that already.
	Yeah, but some don't.
	Some people need to be shown.
	Crazies like Geraldo need to be shown.
	I mean, it's a fascinating kind of social experiment.
	When I saw Jason Nichols on my friend Chris Plant's show, The Right Squad, say with a straight face as the former Commissioner for Customs and Border Protection is sitting next to him, my buddy Mark Morgan, that, oh, the border is secure and we don't have more illegals coming over than we did under Trump, you know, the expressions and the reaction from the rest of the panel, that's important, James, to see just the bold-faced liars that they are.
	I think that's worth it.
	Yeah.
	Hey, the reason why I called in, I want to ask you a question is, you know, you got to blame the Republicans for a lot of what's going on in our country because they're doing nothing Republicans.
	I'm tired of Jim Jordan, Comer Pyle, all these guys going out there and all they're doing is running their mouths and moving their heads.
	They're doing nothing Republicans.
	Did you come up with that Comer Pyle for James Comer?
	Did you come up with that?
	Yes, I did.
	Yes, I did.
	I love that.
	Look, you won't find me defending the GOP on this show, but Gomer Pyle's good.
	Stay on the line, James.
	Let's give James a signed copy of the book that propelled me to the White House, Defeating Jihad.
	That's rather good.
	Yeah, the GOP, you better get busy, guys.
	I don't want another bloody press conference.
	I don't want another letter to the DOJ.
	Get busy.
	Start strangling the FBI and the DOJ.
	With the control of the purse that you have.
	Yeah, you may not have the White House, we may not have the Senate, but you've got the power of the purse.
	Strangle them financially.
	Let's go to George, Columbus, Ohio, line one.
	Hi, Dr. Gorko.
	Hey!
	I've got an idea for a coffee, but first, if I may like, try to lighten the mood a little bit?
	You can try, you can try.
	Okay, I'm gonna try.
	So, I heard from a Very reliable source that Trump's next charge is going to be in L.A.
	by Gascon.
	I'm losing you.
	Say that again.
	You heard from a reliable source what?
	That Trump's next charge is going to be in L.A.
	by Gascon.
	And it's going to be because he's a man in question for the murder of Tupac Shakur.
	Yeah, I think we'll move on.
	We've got a republic that's on the brink of collapse.
	I don't think I share your humor on these issues.
	Line three, Dan, California.
	Dr. Gorka.
	Yep.
	Here's what the Brain Trust, who really runs the country in the West Wing, is going to do in 2024 or sooner.
	It all depends on the health of Senator Feinstein.
	Or If they decide to expedite it, it depends on their bravado.
	They're going to get rid of Feinstein or she's going to pass.
	Newsom is going to appoint the vice president, Harris, as the new senator.
	No opposition.
	Biden is going to appoint Newsom as the new vice president.
	No opposition.
	What do you think of that?
	Well, first, I'd like to know what your evidence for that rather convoluted theory is.
	Well, I think these people are desperate to get rid of both Biden and Harris.
	Look, I think it's just a supposition on your behalf.
	Look, I think it's very neat.
	I think it on the surface solves a lot of their problems.
	The only issue is you keep saying no opposition, no opposition.
	I don't think Kamala Harris would be satisfied.
	She wants to be president and why the hell would she become a senator?
	She's been a senator.
	No, but you think they live in reality, Dan!
	Why do you think these people live in reality?
	She is literally a heartbeat away from the presidency.
	I like your theory.
	I think for the Democrats, yeah, totally attractive.
	Except for one Democrat, the cackler Kamala.
	But that's pretty good.
	Stay on the line, Dan.
	Let's give Dan a signed copy of Defeating Jihad.
	Let's go to Mike Chicago.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey!
	Isn't it clear at this point in time that anybody or any entity that doesn't acknowledge or refuses to acknowledge the authenticity of the Hunter's laptops and even refuses to investigate any kind of follow-up on the information contained therein Wouldn't these people be considered interfering with a presidential election?
	It's clear in my mind.
	Well, of course, but just as much as a county DA charging a president in the midst of a primary season.
	This is all election interference.
	All of it, Mike.
	All of it.
	Yes, it is.
	On every level.
	Right.
	But who's going to do something about it?
	We don't have the DOJ.
	If we don't have somebody, a local sheriff with some balls, if we don't have a local prosecutor or a state attorney's general actually do something about it, it's just talk, Mike.
	Well, that's what drives the best out of politics because the dishonest media shreds them.
	Bingo!
	Yes, you've got to stand in the arena and be like President Trump and never give up and never give in.
	Where are the good men?
	That's the real question.
	Thank you, Mike.
	Great calls.
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	My associate producer, Eric, has been booking me for lots of podcast interviews.
	There must be an election coming up or something.
	I don't know.
	And one I did recently was a lot of fun.
	It is called the Hearts of Oak organization by somebody who's across that little thing called the Atlantic called Peter McIlvenna.
	And he happens to have arrived in D.C.
	And we said, well, you know, what goes around comes around.
	Gotta get you in studio.
	Peter, welcome to America First!
	Dr. Sebastian Cork, it is wonderful to be in your studio.
	Thank you so much for your time.
	So what brings you to The Swamp?
	Well, I come over quite a bit.
	Probably, I came over originally last March, and then a couple of times, been over at CPAC, where I did a piece with you, and I just love coming over.
	I love the freedom you have.
	I love the fight back you have, and actually brought my family this time.
	Fabulous.
	You still think we have freedom in this nation under Biden?
	You're still hopeful?
	Actually, yeah.
	You've got a lot of fight back.
	You've got a lot of media that is actually pushing back.
	You've got large groups within the Republican Party who actually are fighting for freedom.
	There is that concept and that idea and that belief that actually you can win and you can get it back, where I think in parts of Europe probably we've given up.
	Well, tell us what Hearts of Oak is and your podcast.
	What's your mission, Peter?
	So, heartsofoak.org or at heartsofoakuk on Twitter and everywhere else.
	We started, I was with UKIP, which was the Nigel Farage's party.
	The party that affected the Brexit.
	That delivered Brexit.
	Amazing phenomenon.
	25 year process from when Nigel started to when it delivered.
	So I was involved in UKIP five years, was national campaign manager 2019 for the European elections and the local elections.
	I actually work in Parliament as well for Lord Pearson of Rannoch who used to be UKIP leader actually, one of Margaret Thatcher's last appointees.
	And when UKIP delivered, I mean a political party never delivers its one mandate.
	One political party has one issue.
	So it delivered, I thought, where do we go from here?
	So we tried to turn UKIP into a populist party, like what we're seeing across Europe, and it didn't work.
	People were tribal, they went back to the conservative, to Labour, and UKIP more or less collapsed, and is now like half were sent in the opinion polls.
	That's incredible, that you delivered, the biggest vote in British history was 17.5 million people, and then because that was your raison d'etre, your mission, you just, you didn't know where to go?
	It was the end.
	It basically finished off and people thought we've done our job, we're going back to our homes.
	Right.
	One side or the other, the two-party system we have.
	So when people went back, we thought, what do we do?
	We're left with, actually, where do we go in the UK?
	So we started Hearts of Oak, quite a lot of us who'd been involved in UKIP, and we started that February 2020, two weeks before worldwide lockdown.
	The most stupid time to launch an organisation.
	We had mass lobby of Parliament.
	We had educational events.
	What was your mission with Hearts of Oak?
	Our mission was to bring common sense.
	It was to speak truth.
	It was to educate the public.
	It was to be a balance with the media that we faced on issues of freedom.
	Across party lines?
	Across party lines, on the issue of protecting our children from sexualisation, on the issue of the clash between Islam and the freedoms we have in the West, it was predominantly looking at that, and then of course, Covid tyranny hits.
	But wasn't that kind of good for you?
	Because then you could say, see, we told you.
	I mean, you had stuff like, at one point, you weren't allowed out of the house for more than an hour, right?
	Britain!
	The land of Churchill!
	It could have been France where you had to fill in an online form for permission to drop your trash at the end of your route.
	But we were only allowed out for half an hour.
	And the public were told to phone up this helpline if your neighbour has gone out for longer.
	To actually, you know, be a rat.
	Be a rat, be grass on your neighbour.
	And this was the Conservative Party telling your neighbours to twitch your curtains, to check outside.
	If someone is having a cup of tea with someone else, phone this helpline.
	We will come and we will find them.
	So I was listening to my buddies on trigonometry.
	They were interviewing an avowed Marxist.
	The guy who says he's a Marxist.
	This is when I realized you guys are in trouble.
	He said, well, you know, you know, under Boris, under the Conservatives, the Conservatives were actually really good on environmental issues.
	And then I realized if a Marxist is praising the Conservative Party, you got problems, Peter.
	It's bad.
	That's why I call them the Tories.
	Because I cannot, in all good conscience, call them the Conservative Party.
	Because one, we don't have a Conservative Party.
	And two, there's nothing left to conserve.
	It has to be a fight back and reclaim those freedoms.
	It has to be re-established.
	Is it possible?
	Do you need a new party?
	Or do you have to fix the Conservative Party?
	What's the future?
	I don't see a way out politically at the moment, because we've had other parties start up.
	We've had big funding going into other parties.
	The problem is, going back, we've first passed the post system, as opposed to in Europe it's a PR system.
	Proportional representation.
	Yeah, where it's proportional to your vote.
	So as an example, in 2015 UKIP got 12.8%, AFD in Germany got 12.8%, AFD got 96, Members
	of Parliament, UKIP got 1.
	And that shows the disparity.
	But you're never going to fix the proportional representation issue, are you?
	No, no.
	So you can't win on that system.
	So you have to say, this is the battlefield.
	We cannot win using that system.
	How else?
	And that's why I think media, actually educating the public directly, is the way forward.
	We gotta counter the indoctrination with the truth.
	It's heartsofoak.org.
	Follow him at Peter McIlvenna.
	Exactly like it sounds with two N's.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	And it...
	So we went shooting yesterday with a friend.
	Oh, where'd you go?
	We went to a shooting range so she took us, gave us half an hour and then took us shooting.
	That was the first thing they'd been shooting.
	My eight-year-old shot 0.22 and went... Do you want to hear a horror story?
	So we have a place in the country where we go, I just got back from there, middle of the forest, no internet, no anything.
	And we go there every summer and I take lots of guns with me.
	And one summer, seven years ago, my nephew came from the UK.
	Who's madly into guns, computer games, all that stuff.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He was 15, 15 years old.
	And we shot some rifles, handguns, whatever.
	And he posts a photograph on Facebook of himself with my 15-year-old son and me holding rifles, just like this, like holding them up in the air and just smiling.
	He gets home.
	He's got a single mother who's a stewardess on British Airways.
	So she's always on the road.
	She's in Saudi Arabia or Singapore or somewhere.
	The cops roll up on his door.
	15 year old guy.
	Arrest him and interrogate him without his mother.
	Here or there?
	In the UK.
	In the UK.
	Asking him if he's a terrorist because he posted a photograph with a gun in America.
	15 year old kid!
	I know, I know, I know.
	It's like, what?
	I know.
	No common sense.
	I know, I know.
	What is he now?
	He's a sniper with a foreign name.
	No, we had great fun.
	Went to the Air and Space Museum.
	Which one?
	Well, we're going to do both.
	Went to one in DC, we're going to do the one here.
	The one outside is stunning.
	They've got a real space shuttle.
	They've got an SR71 Blackbird.
	Oh, the coolest plane ever.
	I want to see a Blackbird.
	I studied aerospace, I mean, planes are my passion.
	Oh really?
	You can walk up to it and it is...
	That's tomorrow.
	That's tomorrow we're going there.
	And then we're heading down to stay with Robert Malone for a couple of days.
	Who, where?
	Robert Malone.
	Oh, good!
	On a health and sports farm?
	Yep.
	I stayed with him last time, him and Jill, and got to know them quite well, actually.
	And they said, come, bring your family.
	And I said, are you sure?
	They said, yes.
	I said, OK, we're coming.
	And they said, no problem.
	Has he been on your show?
	He's been on four times, maybe.
	And I've done a piece with him in his home together.
	We did a piece together.
	So yeah, done a lot.
	Yeah, sounds like it.
	They're a really nice couple.
	They're just genuine down to earth.
	Tell him to stop playing foots under the table with Robert Kennedy.
	He's besotted with Robert Kennedy.
	I know, but I get that, but yeah, I know, I know, I know.
	Any guy who said you've got to put in prison people who doubt climate change.
	I know, I know, I know.
	He's not a liberty guy.
	All right, what's an important cut, Jeff?
	He's not here.
	Oh, Sununu.
	We gotta do Sununu.
	That's fun.
	That's cut.
	Alright, I'll tee up seven.
	Seven.
	PhD.
	Yeah.
	PhD at the top.
	Yep.
	So many cuts.
	A lot of cuts today.
	I think you were 3 p.m.
	Eastern time.
	Huh?
	I think you were 3 p.m.
	Eastern.
	I stopped.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's 3D6.
	Wow.
	I'm going to go ahead and do that.
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	Van, Franco, Mark, Rick, and Matt.
	Where are the ladies?
	Come on.
	We will get to your calls, but first things first, we've got to have some fun with that daddy's boy out of New Hampshire, Chris Sununu.
	I think he should take up a stand-up comedy or something.
	Governor Sununu.
	Cut seven.
	I can tell you, all those candidates could win in November of 24.
	And that's exciting.
	Donald Trump can't win in November of 24.
	The math doesn't work out.
	If you're supporting Donald Trump today, you're effectively handing it to Kamala Harris, potentially, down the road.
	So, I think the opportunity is a new phase, fresh ideas.
	But I think Vivek, Haley, Pence, DeSantis, they all did very, very well.
	The math doesn't work out.
	You mean the guy that got more votes than any other incumbent president?
	He's the only one who can't win.
	And what does that say about you?
	Because you're the guy who dropped out before the first debate.
	Everybody else can win except you and Trump.
	Poor old Chris.
	What a laughing stock.
	But is it happening elsewhere in the world?
	Are the fake conservatives ruling the roost?
	Let's talk to our friend.
	He's in the swamp right now.
	It is the heartsofoak.org website, the podcast, Peter Maciel-Werner.
	Peter, I heard this on this podcast I was listening to as well, that the left's going to win the next election in England.
	Is Labour really going to win?
	And what happens then?
	Labour is going to win.
	We have had a couple of by-elections, which is when an MP stands down and you have an election to select a new one.
	We had four by-elections, I think four, with another one now coming up, and Labour won three out of four.
	The Conservatives held onto one seat by like 500 or 1,000 votes, so a drop by 95%.
	We have elections coming up in 18 months, I think we need to have them, and Labour is going to get into power now.
	Well, what does Labour offer?
	I mean, there's no character, there's no charisma.
	Is it simply because Boris has been knifed in the back and that's why Labour's gonna pick up the crown?
	Well, it is, because Boris, I mean, he had to go because he had completely lied to the country on all the Covid stuff, so he had to go, but He was a character and he pulled people in and people voted for him even if they weren't ideologically agreed with him they would still vote for him which is why he won the Mayor of London election in a Labour city in effect.
	So we've got Rishi Sunak who's just nobody.
	Little in stature, little in presence, little in policy and he's just a rich kid who's there and completely out of his depth.
	You know, Boris would have been on the TV regularly.
	He would have been engaging because he loved the limelight.
	Rishi Sunak seems to shun the limelight and he is invisible.
	He really is invisible.
	But what about Labour?
	Do they have anybody who's like at least entertaining?
	Oh no.
	So we've got Sir Keir Stammer.
	Sir Head of the Labour Party.
	Does he know what a woman is?
	He doesn't.
	That is true.
	He doesn't.
	They do have issues.
	Issues both sides.
	No, he actually couldn't define a woman.
	He couldn't define a woman.
	I can't believe that.
	No.
	He didn't know what a man had that a woman didn't have and all that.
	Complete confusion.
	Maybe he should go to the playground and ask a six year old, do you know what a woman is?
	Maybe he could learn from a child.
	He needs to watch that Matt Walsh documentary.
	He really does.
	He's going to get in, not because Labour offer something, but because the Conservatives don't.
	Because people are angry with the Conservative Party.
	They voted for Boris because Boris was a fun character.
	Cameron was supposedly a change, so they voted for him.
	They voted for Boris because he was going to deliver Brexit.
	Yes.
	Brexit was going to be done.
	And that happened in some way, shape or form, partially.
	But then we had Rishi Sunak has come in, leading the Conservative Party for the next 18 months.
	He doesn't offer anything.
	Labour don't offer anything.
	But people go, it's one side or the other.
	It's a two-party system.
	What has happened to the bulldog spirit in the land of Churchill?
	Find out.
	Go to heartsofoak.org and listen to our buddy I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First.
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	Nah, he's a big aviation buff.
	We were debating in the break.
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	Let's go to Van Omaha.
	Line two.
	Dr. Gorka, hi.
	Hey.
	Thanks for doing what you do.
	I really appreciate what you do, my man.
	You're welcome.
	What's your comment?
	What's your question?
	Thanks for remembering those 13 individuals that got killed in Kabul.
	Omaha lost one of its own.
	Dagan Page was one that was killed and we celebrate him.
	My question relates, it's a little bit old, but nobody's really touched on it.
	I was wondering if you have an opinion why Chris Christie went to Ukraine?
	Is he trying to get on the Biden train or what?
	Great question.
	Thank you.
	Let's play the clip of Chris Christie at the weekend.
	Of course, not on a conservative outlet.
	Why did he go to Ukraine?
	This is what he was spouting at the weekend.
	Cut 11.
	You know, we can't have a convicted felon as our nominee for president and expect we're going to win.
	And it was really the most amazing part of the debate to me was the idea that, you know, the majority of my competitors believe that you can have a convicted felon as our nominee for president and that they'd support that and that he could win.
	I think that's an impossibility.
	And I think what it will mean for folks across the country is four more years of Joe Biden.
	Is Jeff there?
	Jeff, you picked something up during our pre-show meeting.
	What's the problem with that commentary from Chris Christie?
	Yeah, he's already convicted.
	A convicted felon, according to Chris.
	Yeah, how does he know what the decision's going to be in the court?
	I'm curious.
	That's interesting to me, isn't it?
	Yeah, he called him a convicted felon.
	Well, President Trump isn't.
	How strange.
	Why did he go to Kiev?
	Because he's virtue signaling.
	Because he's a swamp creature.
	He wants a little bit of that hundred billion dollars for himself, doesn't he?
	Of course he does.
	Franco!
	Iowa, line three.
	Dr. G!
	What's in the back of your truck today?
	What are you shipping today?
	I'm heading back for another load of biodiesel, soy-based.
	Biodiesel, soy-based.
	Not liquid eggs today, right?
	No, I'm all done with the liquid eggs.
	Well, it's great to hear from you.
	It's been a while.
	What do you want to share with us, Franco?
	Well, I thought I'd been demoted because the week before your vacation, I tried calling four out of five days and couldn't get through.
	I got the busy signal.
	No, never!
	Never, Franco.
	We're just a little busy.
	What can I say?
	No, I hear ya.
	Say, I had an epiphany, or what I thought might be one, and then I got a t-shirt idea.
	Yeah.
	I can't remember if it was just in that polling place where they had the hidden, uh, two cases underneath the table, but there was talk of pristine ballots.
	The paper was different and that sort of thing.
	And I got the idea of the U.S.
	Mint printing ballots.
	I don't think we need to use that special paper, but they could put the Mylar strip, Yeah, there's a lot of recommendations of that.
	The only trouble is, Franco, the Constitution is clear.
	States run elections.
	So, you know, federalizing any part of the election, that's what Nancy wanted to do.
	So I understand the idea, but no, don't give the feds any control of the elections.
	The states should run clean elections, and they should be running actually un-elected.
	Dr. Gorka, thank you for taking my call.
	Welcome back from vacation.
	Stay safe.
	Mark, Philadelphia, line four.
	Dr. Gorka, thank you for taking my call.
	Welcome back from vacation.
	Thank you, buddy.
	What's your comment?
	What's your question?
	We've got a minute.
	Yes, I read in Breitbart yesterday or sometime over the weekend that Sununu Zlaky, the attorney
	general of the Secretary of State, another republican in New Hampshire, already came
	up with a weird idea of not putting Donald Trump on the ballot on his own authority.
	Saying that Donald Trump is an insurrectionist and we just may not put him on the ballot.
	So I'm just raising this warning to everybody that we need to put a lot of pressure No, I'm so glad you mentioned this.
	We're going to have to devote a whole hour to this question.
	You could expect that coming from the Democrats, but with Republicans like Sununu Zlaky, who
	needs Democrats?
	No, I'm so glad you mentioned this.
	We're going to have to devote a whole hour to this question.
	This is the attempt by Democrats and Republicans, as you pointed out, Mark, to use the 14th
	Amendment and the insurrection allegation to get President Trump's name removed from
	the ballots even before the election.
	That's how fry they are of him, and that's why we have to support him.
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	The only man standing between the radical left and your cheeseburgers, it's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Yeah, you know it.
	They want to come after your cheeseburgers.
	Why?
	Because they're a cult!
	Although, they don't seem to understand that fact.
	Here's Joe Walsh, former radio host on MSNBC, with a strange description of politics in America.
	Cut to him.
	My former political party is a cult.
	Say that again.
	It is a cult.
	This is not a normal political party.
	Donald Trump is a cult leader.
	He's become a martyr.
	Every indictment, every trial, Simone, only strengthens him within Republican voters.
	Overwhelmingly, the nomination is his, and I worry and I fear that even in a general election, it may help him.
	Imagine if he's acquitted, or imagine if there's a home jury on one of these trials.
	The possibilities scare me and should scare all of us.
	That's Joe Walsh, not the musician, calling Republicans a cult!
	Really?
	This is a Democrat who just went to see the Barbie movie.
	Tell me, which side is the cult?
	Cut 23.
	Nobody was wearing masks.
	And I'm not expecting every single character to wear a mask, even though I'd love to see that in a movie.
	Or at least main characters wearing masks and being COVID conscious.
	Nobody in the city, not even any of the background actors.
	It just feels like erasure, you know?
	Not even acknowledging, yes, that there's still people out in the real world of today that wear masks.
	Jeff, when you heard that, you thought she was talking about who?
	The people in the movie theater.
	That's what made it ten times better when I got to that point.
	She's talking about the people in the movie.
	They should have been wearing masks.
	No, no, no.
	No, no.
	We're the cult, right?
	We're the cult.
	All right, let's go to your cause.
	Let's go to Rick in Phoenix.
	Good to have you back, Dr. Gorka.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Good to be back.
	What's your comment?
	What's your question?
	Thank you for your gift, Why We Fight.
	It is an excellent book.
	I highly recommend to everyone.
	And I have two suggestions for t-shirts.
	Go ahead.
	One, the first one I would like to suggest, will President Trump be indicted again with a silhouette of Barack Hussein and Hillary and company?
	And below that, only the shadow knows.
	I think you have to be a little bit of a certain vintage to understand that reference, Rick.
	It might fly by too many people.
	What's the second idea?
	The second one is DeSantis for President 2028.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	All right.
	Good stuff.
	Thank you, Rick, and thank you for your kind words.
	It is good to be back.
	What are we going to do for the next 15 months?
	Can we possibly stop them from putting President Trump behind bars?
	That's going to be the question for our next guest.
	No Manhood Hour.
	Even better than that, the former governor of Arkansas, Governor Mike Huckabee, wherever you are, whatever you're doing, don't you dare touch that dial.
	one-on-one with Governor Huckabee.
	Sure. I mean, I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do that.
	But I'm going to try.
	Sure. I mean, I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do that.
	But I'm going to try.
	Sure.
	Are you sure this is a minute long?
	It looks really short.
	Alright.
	I'm going to go ahead and put it on.
	I'm going to put it on.
	you.
	But I love my country.
	And I don't want it to be in second place or third place.
	I want it to be first.
	And I'll put up with a personality... I'll put up with a personality that can, maybe at times, be vain and vulgar.
	But I'll do it to make America great again, and that's why I will support him again for president.
	I love that clip.
	Not because I've been in that studio, that beautiful theater, sat on that comfy couch next to the governor, but because I saw that as it was broadcast on Newsmax after my show on a Sunday night.
	It was the opening statement from the former governor of Arkansas and I thought, What incredible common sense.
	And I used the clip on my show the very next day here on America First on the Salem News Network.
	And now I get to unpack it with the man himself.
	A true patriot.
	A man that we always love to have on the show.
	Governor Mike Huckabee.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Well, it's a pleasure to be here, and it was great having you in Nashville, there on the set of our show.
	And I'm really grateful that you used that clip, because, you know, there are people who ask me, why are you still supporting Trump?
	I ask them, do you have a couple of hours?
	Because I got plenty.
	But yeah, and I'll tell you something, since I recorded that, that's been a while back.
	I'm more committed now than ever before.
	And the more that I watch the deep state go after him and the attempts to try to derail him, which is the worst instance of election interference in our entire history, the more determined I am to do everything possible to make sure that he's sworn in January of 2025.
	Well, God bless you.
	We have the luxury of the hour to unpack everything they've done to the President since he left the office of the White House, and why that means you've redoubled your support to him.
	But first, on the first part of that cut, as a deep man of faith who has a very loyal audience on TBN, on Newsmax as well, it's Sunday.
	Watch The Huckabee Show every week.
	Also, follow at GovMikeHuckabee and GovMikeHuckabee.substack.com.
	How is it?
	Help me to understand this, because I think I'm a bad Christian, okay?
	Because I'm a human, alright?
	I'm a Catholic, and I try to go to confession every Saturday, because I've got stuff to confess, because guess what?
	I'm not Jesus, and I'm not perfect.
	Why do so few Americans make that connection as Christians that the President's never going to be perfect?
	Never going to be perfect.
	And these are human beings.
	They're flawed.
	They're fallen.
	And do they want a priest in the White House?
	Do they want a pastor?
	Or do they want a guy that crushes ISIS, seals the border, you know, tells China, you know, no more undermining our economy?
	Why can Christians not look into their own soul and say, I'm not voting for Mr. Perfect.
	I'm voting for America.
	Well, and I think your point is well taken.
	We're not electing a priest or a pastor.
	Or a rabbi.
	The person that we hired to be the President of the United States' primary job is to protect us, to make this country not only safe and secure, but to make it prosperous, to build up its economy, to give every American a chance to thrive.
	If you look at the record of Donald Trump in his four years as president, as a Christian, I look at that and I say, you know, the things that matter to me the most in my life of faith Donald Trump delivered better than any president in my lifetime.
	And let me be quick.
	That includes Ronald Reagan, who often has been considered sort of the gold standard of conservatism.
	But when it relates to Israel, when it relates to religious freedom, when it relates to the sanctity of human life, nobody, and Seb, I mean, nobody has ever delivered to the level that Donald Trump has delivered.
	And the appointment of justices, who are not hostile to faith and the people of faith?
	I'm telling you, if a person just looked at his record and said, which president in the last 100 years has done the most to advance religious liberty and to simply tell the government to leave the church alone?
	You know, no one that I know of in the faith community wants the government to be on our side.
	We don't want the government to come help us.
	We really don't.
	We need nothing from the government other than leave us the heck alone.
	Let us be free within the context of the First Amendment, which is explicitly clear.
	Let us practice our faith.
	And unless we're hurting somebody, and unless somehow we are oppressing people by holding them hostage, then leave us alone.
	Don't tell a pastor what he can preach or what he can't preach.
	Don't tell a church how it can or can't worship.
	Don't shut our churches down because you somehow think it's more dangerous to be in church than in Walmart during a pandemic.
	From all of those things, including some areas of policy that matter, and I use the terms of sanctity of life, which is very important to believers.
	Our relationship to Israel, very important.
	And on those issues, Donald Trump delivered like no one else ever has.
	I've said that I don't want to make this point I did in that particular monologue.
	If my mother, who is now deceased for 30 years, but if during the time she was alive, she was faced with a serious operation, and I had the choice between two doctors.
	One of the doctors was a kind and gentle, young and delightful young man.
	who came into the room, sat on the side of her bed, held her hand, prayed with her, answered all the questions of the family.
	The other doctor that I had to choose from came in, was rather abrupt and gruff, didn't have time for all the members of the family, didn't sit on the edge of the bed.
	He basically said, look, I'm more than willing to do this surgery.
	I can do it tomorrow if you want me to, but I got to know now so we can get it scheduled.
	And his bedside manner was anything but even polite.
	But he had done that surgery 700 times, and 98% of his patients lived.
	The other guy had only done it three times, and two of his patients died.
	Who do I pick to be the surgeon for my mother?
	I'm going to tell you, that's not a hard issue.
	I'll do the praying.
	I'll do the niceties.
	But I want that surgeon to know what he's doing in the OR.
	When it comes to being president, I say Donald Trump sometimes may lack in bedside manner.
	He will say things or tweet things.
	That can be cringeworthy.
	I'll be the first to admit that.
	I've said that to his face, so I'm not saying something behind his back.
	He laughs when I tell him that.
	But the other side of it is, there's no one I'd rather see sitting in the Oval Office than Donald Trump.
	And when I said now more than ever, here's why.
	Because I don't know of anybody, anybody breathing air on the planet who has the capacity to fight back in the midst of the most unfair, Unjust treatment that any political figure in American history has ever experienced.
	Yeah.
	Why do you think it is, Governor, that people can't look beyond the tweets and the bravado and look at the economy, security, the border?
	What is this scales on their eyes?
	I don't get it.
	You used a great analogy, the scales on their eyes, a biblical term.
	And I believe that what we're dealing with is a spiritual darkness.
	This is not political darkness.
	This is spiritual darkness.
	When I hear Democrats and they talk about, well, Donald Trump's not all that nice.
	And I say, well, are you trying to tell me that the comparison between Donald Trump and Joe Biden is that Joe Biden is a nice guy?
	Joe Biden, the guy that goes to sleep when he's sitting there talking to people in Maui who have just lost everything, including their own children.
	Are you talking about the Joe Biden that looks at his watch?
	when the flag-draped coffins are coming back from Afghanistan that should never have come back
	as flag-draped coffins because he was incompetent in dealing with the withdrawal?
	Are you talking about Joe Biden, who yells at his staff and throws the F-bomb all over the place and
	sniffs little girls' hair?
	Are that Joe Biden?
	That nice, wonderful, gentle man that you're trying to tell me is somehow a better person than Donald Trump?
	The Joe Biden that has taken millions of dollars from the Chinese, the Ukrainians, and the Russians and lied about his business deals with his son in the most corrupt administration in the history of this entire United States?
	Please don't give me a moral lecture.
	about how Donald Trump is not fit to be president.
	Donald Trump never took a salary when he was president of the United States.
	He donated his salary.
	Joe Biden not only takes a salary, he takes tens of millions of dollars, best we can tell, from foreign governments that are enemies, and then doesn't even have the good sense to pay taxes on it while lecturing us on paying our fare or share.
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	Governor Huckabee, you mentioned a phrase that I shied away from for the first two weeks of the Trump administration, and then when I saw it with my own eyes at meetings of the National Security Council in the West Wing across government, I said, yep, Yep, there is a deep state.
	There is a permanent bureaucracy.
	People who are in those jobs for 20-30 years, they care not one whit for the will of the American people.
	They don't care who has been elected president.
	They think they get to decide.
	You have been around the block.
	You have been the man in the arena.
	A very successful politician.
	How serious, in the great strategic scheme of things, is the threat to the fabric of the Republic from this thing, whatever you want to call it, permanent state, deep state, permanent bureaucracy, how serious is this threat, Governor?
	Consider it a stage four cancer that is ravaging through the body of the United States of America.
	It is that serious.
	It is going to be our death if we don't stop it.
	And the reason it is, is because it is attacking the fundamental foundations of who we are as a nation.
	It attacks, quite frankly, the three things that that book was about.
	Christianity, it makes the created, the God, rather than the creator.
	That's why we have people who are worshiping at the altar of climate change, because that is their God.
	The environment, the created things, become the God instead of the one who created it.
	Then we get into the idea of capitalism.
	It's what has made America the most prosperous nation in the history of mankind.
	And it's not just that we have prospered here.
	Our prosperity and the idea of capitalism, where there is a market influence and people who work are able to enjoy the blessings of their labor and reinvest it and hire people and create a very growing economy.
	That is under attack by the left.
	Sometimes they're in the Republican Party, not just the Democrat Party.
	And these are the people who want government manipulation rather than market freedom.
	They're destroying the economy of the country.
	Joe Biden, in just three years, has created a situation between inflation That's $8,400 a year.
	$8,400 a year that Americans are worse off because of Bidenomics.
	And I want people to stop and ask themselves, is this the direction that we think our economy should go?
	And then we get to the Constitution.
	We're shredding it.
	dollars a year, $8,400 a year that Americans are worse off because of Bidenomics.
	And I want people to stop and ask themselves, is this the direction that we think our economy
	should go? And then we get to the Constitution. We're shredding it. We now have a court system
	that says, yes, due process, forget about it.
	Innocent until proven guilty?
	No.
	We even have Nancy Pelosi who was saying, yes, we'll let the president prove himself to be innocent.
	And you're thinking, hey, sweetheart, did you pass ninth grade civics?
	Did you not remember that it's not that we are guilty until we prove ourselves innocent?
	We are innocent until a jury of our peers decides that we are not innocent, and they have to do it beyond a reasonable doubt and do it unanimously.
	These are people that are running our government, and my gosh, they don't even know what our government is founded upon.
	You add all that up, and we can call it the Uniparty, we can call it the Deep State, we can call it the D.C.
	Swamp.
	I've never thought swamp was a good analogy for what D.C.
	is because, quite frankly, from an ecological standpoint, swamps are a very important part of the natural order.
	We need swamps.
	They are a cleansing process.
	And, you know, as someone who lives in a state where there are some swamps, and I've been all over the country, and I've seen the value of swampland.
	We're not talking about swamps.
	We're talking about a sewer.
	Something needs to be flushed regularly, and it is filled with the most hideous things that are foul, that create a stench, And that are.
	And I'm being very delicate here, my friend, because I realized I don't want to do something that would be inappropriate for our broadcast audience.
	But just to say that what we're dealing with in D.C.
	is far closer to a sewer than a swamp.
	Can President Trump.
	survive the onslaught before he can get back into a position to drain that cesspit?
	Let me put it this way.
	If he can't, then the rest of us go down with him.
	And this is what I don't think a lot of Republicans seem to understand.
	They act like, well, you know, they may get Trump, but that's okay.
	We got other people.
	Yeah, we got other people.
	Can you name one that has the guts to fight back?
	And can you name one that won't have the exact same experience that Trump is having if that person becomes the nominee and or the president?
	Because what the Democrats and the media, and I repeat myself, but what they figured out is that we don't have to necessarily beat them at the ballot box, although that that's helpful, even if we have to cheat to do it.
	What we have to do is just destroy them on a personal level.
	We have to take them out.
	And if we do that, then we always are in control and we win.
	They've had a taste of that blood in the water.
	They're like the sharks.
	They're swimming in circles right now.
	And if we don't understand that, we're going to get eaten by the sharks.
	When I see Donald Trump's candidacy, I don't just see that this is about, this isn't about Donald Trump.
	This is about you and me.
	This is about the pastor in the church who truly believes that the Bible says there are two genders, not 67.
	This is about the Christian school that still believes that a little boy ought to dress like a little boy and go to the little boy's restroom, and that when he's 14, he shouldn't be able to go and undress in front of the 14-year-old girls and take a shower with them.
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	Governor, you talked about the attacks, the personal attacks, and how President Trump...
	I mean, I was there at Mar-a-Lago and it still sends shivers down my spine in November when
	he announced and he gave his speech. And I worked for him in the White House and I'm
	standing there and I'm going, my dear Lord, he's prepared to do this again.
	Again?!
	For what?! !
	He didn't make him famous.
	He didn't make him rich.
	He was already famous and rich.
	There's only one reason, and that is, of course, love of country.
	My friend Chris Plant, who has the morning show here at WMAL, he says one of the greatest achievements, and it's what you just mentioned, of the left is to make sure that decent people who love
	America don't go into politics and most definitely don't work in a conservative administration. How
	do we overcome that?
	You are one of the rare success stories. You're still sane, you're avuncular, you're a happy
	warrior par excellence, but you're a very successful politician as well.
	Where do we find more Huckabees?
	I mean, I think there's one already busy governing the state that you used to govern, but I worry that our bench is so very thin, Governor Huckabee.
	Part of it is that we have people who don't love their country as much as they love their own comfort.
	And we're going to have to help people understand they're going to lose their comfort and their country if they don't stand up and speak up.
	That's what's at stake.
	Because I see people all the time and they say, oh, gosh, I'd love to get more involved, but I'm afraid it'll hurt my business or I'm afraid it'll cost me my friends and I won't get invited to go play golf with all my buddies.
	And I'm thinking, well, let me just tell you something.
	If we don't do something pretty soon to change the trajectory of this country, And it's leadership.
	You don't have to worry about a golf course.
	Those will all be taken over and turned into homeless camps for all these people that will be importing in on an open border.
	We don't seem to fully embrace what a desperate state we are getting ourselves into by people who are basically Marxist.
	That may sound harsh.
	There'll be people who say, oh, there goes Huckabee being hyperbolic.
	I would just tell you that when you start Telling people I don't even drink beer.
	But this week the Biden administration now says people shouldn't have more than two a week.
	Well that's two more than I'm going to need.
	But that's none of the government's business unless I get behind the wheel of a vehicle after having 12 of them.
	I mean, you have your show.
	I have my show.
	There's a few outlets that, you know, fly the flag.
	Who else can take upon themselves that catalytic role of saying, hey, neighbor, it's not about your comfort.
	It's about whether your children or your grandchildren live as free Americans.
	I see under COVID For example, a complete lack of leadership among our churches, for example.
	So where is this catalyst going to come from?
	I don't think we'll ever see the churches fold up like they did before.
	You know, in 2020, when all this happened, and you know, President Trump has taken a lot of criticism that he let Fauci run too much and make too many of the decisions.
	To be fair, in the early days of COVID, we all truly believed that you could touch a doorknob, put your hand to your face, and you'd be dead by tomorrow morning, because we didn't know.
	We simply didn't know.
	And it took months before we started realizing, you know, COVID is serious.
	I had personal friends, close friends, who died from it.
	So I know it was real.
	I'm not trying to dismiss it as it was all fake.
	But I also started listening to medical experts, people like Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who is such a brilliant guy.
	He made a comment that just made so much sense.
	He said, it's the first time in all of history, where in a point of pandemic, we have isolated the people who are well, rather than just the ones who are ill.
	And that was the turning point for me. I realized, what are we doing?
	And then when I saw things like shutting down churches, but leaving casinos open, telling
	people that if they went to a mom and pop store that was run by a couple of people and there were
	only four customers in there at a time, they were going to die.
	Right, but Walmart was okay, of course.
	Well, hopefully it won't happen again.
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	Yes.
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	You love America.
	We need a GOP.
	We need a Speaker.
	We need to have Republicans who act as if they love America.
	No more footsie under the table with the Democrats.
	No more Marquess of Queensbury rules, because the other side doesn't play by Marquess of Queensbury rules.
	They tried to impeach our President twice.
	They've got political prisoners, January 6th prisoners, in solitary for years on end.
	Two years!
	Without due process.
	It's time for us to take the gloves off and play hardball.
	So the biggest challenge is for the GOP to grow a spine next year.
	You know it's a little more than a week.
	I think our audience agrees with that.
	I was going to use a different word than spine, but that was the Christmas Eve episode of Governor Huckabee's show.
	You've got to watch it.
	It's after my show every Sunday on Newsmax and on TBN.
	That gives me a perfect segue.
	We had so much fun at your beautiful studio.
	Amazing crowd for Christmas.
	The amazing band.
	Best person to ask, given your career.
	What happened in 2016 is remarkable, because for the first time in the Republic's history, we chose somebody who's not a member of the political elite or a retired general to be president.
	Americans born here, and I am an immigrant, a legal immigrant, forget that from Washington to Obama, Every single president was a senator, governor, congressman, or retired general.
	Along comes this guy from, you know, Queens, runs the first time and wins, which sends a message, I think, to the quote-unquote elite.
	So here's my question to you.
	Is the GOP now?
	America First, is it MAGA or is it still kind of half establishment, half Rhino?
	What grade do you give it now as we approach the next election?
	I think we're 70% America First, MAGA.
	I think that there's still probably 30% that aren't sure about that and within that 30% there's probably 10 to 15% that are harshly never Trumper.
	But I think it's that small.
	There are people who maybe would rather vote for somebody other than Trump due to their views of personality, but they would vote for Trump over they would a Democrat.
	I think a lot of them have not fully understood that so much of what they know about Trump is not true.
	It's been told to them by the media.
	It was lied to them.
	And if we go back to 2016, it's a miracle Donald Trump got elected because we were being hit with this information that, you know, he might be a Russian colluder.
	He had to deal with that for its entire four years.
	Turned out that was all total nonsense.
	The real Russian colluder was, in fact, the person who created the Russia collusion story, Hillary Clinton and all of her minions.
	That's where that story not only came from, they were the ones who were actually colluding with Russia.
	Then when you start looking into what happened in 2020, there was such a misinformation and disinformation campaign to hide the truth of Joe Biden's corruption, his relationship with his son Hunter, the revelations from Hunter's laptop.
	You had the Intel community, the so-called 51 credible signers of the document, They were all full of balloon juice.
	The American people were lied to.
	$400 million spent by Mark Zuckerberg to steal the election.
	Forget anything about voting machines and ballots, even if those things happened.
	And I think some of them did.
	But here's the bigger issue.
	The people who did go vote were heavily influenced by lies that they thought were the truth.
	And they were lies that propped up Joe Biden, this Daughtering old man who can't put a sentence together, and led to believe that something terrible is wrong with Donald Trump.
	I watched a snippet from the debate of 2020, he and Joe Biden.
	He challenged Joe Biden, not just with the issue of having made business deals with the Chinese, said he got the exact amounts right, that we're just now sort of getting confirmed four years later.
	Where did he get that information?
	I'm not sure I know, but I'm telling you this, Everything he said on that debate stage was 100% correct.
	And Chris Wallace should apologize to the American people for stepping in and trying to interrupt instead of saying, go ahead, Mr. President, tell us what you know.
	Yeah.
	Given that it seems every week there's another revelation, 10 million here, 10 million there, you know, now we know literally thousands Today's news.
	Thousands of emails were sent by the Vice President under a pseudonymous government email account.
	I mean, just shocking.
	Why would a Vice President be sending thousands of emails under a pseudonymous name?
	What does your gut tell you, Governor?
	Can this really be the Democrat candidate for 2024?
	Unless something drastic happens, he is the Democrat candidate for 2024.
	I think there are probably a lot of Democrats who wished that they had another, that somebody else was there.
	But he's the incumbent president.
	He controls the DNC.
	So he will control that nomination process.
	And the person who would be most likely to challenge him has become an anathema to his own party.
	And I'm talking about Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who was a guest on my TV show this weekend.
	He, like Donald Trump, is, in fact, the kind of guy that just doesn't care what the elites think.
	And he's not about them.
	He is the ultimate disruptor for their side.
	And they're doing everything they can to discredit and destroy him, just as those same forces tried to do to Donald Trump.
	It's a great metric.
	I think it describes not just RFK Jr.
	and my former boss.
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	Really, it's up to us, ladies and gentlemen.
	Last question I have for you, Governor Huckabee.
	You are really, you are...
	One of the odd rarities, a conservative politician in the age of the internet who's still smiling, still successful, hasn't been broken by the lunatics.
	As such, you reflect a great deal, you know, the fighting spirit of the 45th president.
	What advice would you give him?
	I hope he keeps reminding people that what is happening to him is not about him.
	What should he do differently?
	Or what words of encouragement would you give a man who is taking slings and arrows like no other politician in
	America today?
	I hope he keeps reminding people that what is happening to him is not about him.
	It's about the average American person who will get crushed by a government that can't wait to
	destroy their thoughts, their faith, what they believe about their families, their biblical
	convictions.
	This is a government that wants to lead us to totalitarianism.
	And when he's at his best is when he's talking about the hurts, the needs of those Americans across this country who feel left out and forgotten.
	Nobody is better at that than him.
	Look, I don't know how he keeps from focusing on what happened in 2020.
	But most people at this point care about what's going to happen to them in the future, not what happened to him in the past.
	And he has a real opportunity to build a coalition that is unshakable and take this country and get us back to our constitutional roots.
	And I hope he does that.
	I'll do everything I can to help him do it.
	We know that.
	Is there a group, is there a demographic that he should give more attention to or is it just all Americans?
	Well, I think he's got to win back a lot of the moms of America.
	You know, some, you know, have been feeling that he's not connecting to them, maybe because they want a more gentle message.
	He doesn't have to be gentle, but he has to be empathetic to what they care about.
	And they care about what is happening to their kids in school and the things they're being taught and the way that their minds are being ravaged Bye-bye.
	His or her gender when he's eight years old, but the same kid can't make decisions about whether he ought to have cake or a vegetable for dinner.
	Right.
	It's sheer insanity, and you nailed it earlier on.
	It really is communism.
	I never thought I'd say that as the child of those who escaped communism, but it is.
	The book is The Three C's That Made America Great.
	The show is Huckabee every Sunday on Newsmax and TBN.
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