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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: DOJ wants 33 years in prison for head of Proud Boys

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	But I'm told by a reliable source that Friday evening, somebody from Washington called the district attorney in Atlanta and said, you have to indict on Monday.
	We have to cover up all of the mistakes we just made with Weiss.
	And she said, apparently, My jurors aren't coming back till Tuesday.
	And they said, you didn't hear me.
	You have to indict on Monday.
	And she said, we're not going to get here before noon.
	They said that doesn't matter.
	She said, this means it's going to be eight or nine or 10 o'clock at night.
	It doesn't matter.
	We need the news media shifting.
	Who made that phone call?
	We don't know.
	And I'm telling you up front, this is hearsay, but it's from a person who has remarkably good sources.
	I totally believe it, though, because that would explain why they leaked and they messed up on the clerk document, why she was exhausted, and why they had the 11 p.m.
	press conference, Mr. Speaker.
	That was, of course, former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, who represented, I believe, the 6th Congressional District of Georgia on my friend, my Salem colleague, Charlie Kirk's show, giving us a tip about the breadth of the shadow government in America.
	Why was that press conference held at 11.30 at night on Tuesday in Fulton County with the additional indictments against President Trump and 18 other co-conspirators?
	And why were the charges leaked on the court website six hours before the secret grand jury even met to vote on those charges?
	Doesn't make any sense, does it?
	Well, unless you hear what Newt Gingrich said.
	That a reliable source told him that someone from Washington, D.C., from where we are, called Fannie Willis, the district attorney in Fulton County, and said, we've got trouble.
	We need a distraction.
	We just made the person who gave Hunter Biden the sweetheart deal of all sweetheart deals.
	We've just made him special counsel.
	And he's got to cover up that deal.
	He's got to keep it under investigation so they can't ask Attorney General Merrick Garland anything about it in Congress.
	Indict Trump now.
	But my grand jury doesn't come back till Tuesday.
	Do it now.
	But we don't get into the office until 12 o'clock.
	Do it now.
	That's how.
	That's how.
	Chez Alexandra, the Clerk of the Court, accidentally publishes the charges before they've been voted on.
	That's why we have to wait until 1130.
	1130?
	When does a Does a county district attorney have a press conference at 11.30 at night?
	Only when the White House tells you, do it now.
	We're in trouble.
	Give us a distraction.
	throw some more mud at President Trump.
	Is there going to be another series of indictments?
	It's a good thing.
	Is some crazy Soros-funded DA in Arizona or Massachusetts going to drop some today at 11.30 at some impromptu last-minute press conference?
	Probably.
	Why?
	Because of this.
	What have we found out in the last 24 hours?
	When Joe Biden was vice president, He had a government email in a fake name.
	He had multiple ones, actually.
	He had one in the name of Robert L. Peters, which was used to send several messages on which his son, Hunter Biden, was copied.
	What were those emails about?
	From Vice President Joe Biden's fake false name email?
	They were about his preparations for talks with members of the Ukrainian government in 2016.
	Let me repeat again.
	The Vice President sent emails from a pseudonymous fake name email account concerning his visits With government officials in Ukraine at the same time, 2016, when his son was on the board of the most corrupt energy company in that country, Burisma.
	The company that gave the vice president's son an $83,000 per month no-show job.
	Again, let me repeat that.
	$83,000 not per year.
	That's a pretty good wage, $83,000.
	Even here in DC, that's a good wage.
	$83,000 even here in DC that's a good wage. $83,000 per month for a job you
	don't have to show up to.
	You don't have to speak Ukrainian.
	You don't have to work in Ukraine.
	You don't have to know anything about oil or gas.
	But you're gonna get a million bucks a year.
	Why?
	Because of who your daddy is.
	The last two years, the last seven years, but the last two years have been a story of one thing and one thing alone.
	Please understand the truth of what has occurred in this country.
	We don't have government of the people, by the people, for the people.
	We have government of the Democrat Party, for the elite of the Democrat Party, run by the Democrat Party.
	End of story.
	If you are a threat to that group of individuals, if you wish to root out corruption from this city, if you wish to have America strong, prosperous, and great again, Then every tool of government will be used against you overtly and covertly.
	Overtly, because you'll be charged with federal crimes in a DC court, in a Miami court.
	The Democrat White House will call their buddies in Fulton County, Georgia and say, indict him now!
	And then covertly, As with Operation Crossfire Hurricane, the first time ever since the National Security Act of 1947 that created the CIA, that a tri-agency intelligence mission was initiated by the CIA, the FBI, and the NSA against a presidential candidate.
	A mission that saw his national security advisor in the crosshairs.
	That saw patriots like Carter Page targeted, lied about, surveilled illegally.
	Innocent civilians like George Papadopoulos targeted with honeypots in London pubs by the name of Azra Turk, identifying herself as an FBI researcher.
	Weird though, somebody called Azra Turk has never worked for the FBI.
	Even weirder, He's outside of the country, and a businessman offers George Papadopoulos a bag of cash as an incentive for an impending business deal.
	He thinks it's all a bit strange, leaves the bag of cash with his attorneys in Greece, and when he arrives back at Dulles Airport, he's arrested by the FBI, who say, where's the bag of cash?
	What do you mean, where's the bank?
	Oh, did you set up that person to give it to me and then arrest me at the airport?
	It's a shadow government and they're coming after you if you believe in America.
	President Trump is only in the way.
	All right.
	It's Friday.
	It's Second Amendment Friday.
	It's Ask Dr. G Anything Friday.
	We've got some incredible guests.
	We've got the one, the only Larry Elder.
	The man who taught John Wick to shoot and making movies great again.
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	It is an incident where a person of color forgets that they are of color and are reminded, rather brutally, by an unexpected act of racism.
	Have you ever had any meals?
	Well, I'm acutely aware, Charlemagne, that I'm a black person, just as you are a black person, and when Joe Biden insulted you by saying, You ain't really black, we don't know whether or not you want to vote for me or vote for Donald Trump.
	Uh, Timmy, that should have been a wake-up call on your part.
	How dare this guy come in here and insult you, a black man, and tell you you gotta think a certain kind of way.
	I'm amazed that you weren't mad about that.
	Good.
	Okay.
	Want the mics off for Larry, or on?
	No, just tell him they're on.
	Okay.
	Title for that one.
	Monologue.
	Newt Gingrich's indictment bombshell.
	Newt Gingrich's indictment bombshell.
	Bombshell.
	All right.
	Play cut three again.
	Three.
	And if you're innocent, start acting like it.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Enough, enough, enough, enough.
	One of the two other first things Larry said was just, Oh brother, he goes for a sip of his water.
	Alright, so that new cut is cut 16, right?
	Well, I was just gonna call it cut 13 new.
	Okay, good.
	13 again, yeah.
	Play cut 14? 14.
	Alright, now why are you putting that like that?
	Because he's old?
	Oh, the shirt?
	You just really made an enemy.
	Biden is my president.
	Let's move on.
	If the election was tomorrow, who would you vote for?
	Not ever, ever Trump.
	Oh, so you'd vote for Biden in 2024?
	Absolutely!
	And if there was another Democrat that I felt like was, you know, I would vote for... RFK Jr.? ?
	I don't know.
	I don't know anything about him.
	How do you feel about Joe Biden and his son taking millions of bribes from Ukraine and the Burisma holdings?
	Where is the proof?
	The whistleblowers, the laptop, and Hunter Biden's tax returns.
	But if he wasn't the president's son, this would not be talked about.
	Joe Biden always says, you know, we're going to tax the rich, when in reality his son hasn't paid taxes for three or four years.
	There's a whole lot of rich people that haven't paid taxes.
	Is he not answering?
	No, I just tried texting him.
	He hasn't responded yet.
	Forty seconds.
	Food.
	you.
	Oh, thank you.
	You're welcome.
	I'm going to go ahead and get started.
	sense out of today's nonsense. Here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
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	I remember people always used to do, hey, shout-out to my mom!
	Really?
	Come on, how old are you?
	But I guess people like that.
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	All right, we are waiting to connect to our buddy Larry Elder.
	In the meantime, Here's a story for you.
	There's a company, it's pretty well known amongst swamp creatures, called Axios Strategies.
	It's run by somebody called Jeff Rowe, who was campaign manager for Glenn Youngkin.
	He's now campaign manager for Ron DeSantis, and they published hundreds of pages on the website of Advice for the governor of Florida, including the following for the debate next week on Wednesday.
	Number one, Mr. Governor, you should attack Joe Biden and the media three to five times.
	Wow, that sounds so natural, doesn't it?
	Three to five times.
	I'm not a robot.
	I'm not an empty suit.
	State GRD's positive vision.
	GRDs?
	Who calls themselves by their... Eric, imagine if I wrote, you know, papers for our show.
	SLG should do this.
	Wouldn't that be weird?
	That's what blew me away, because it took me a moment to realize.
	I'm like, wait, what does that stand for?
	It's like, oh, Governor RT.
	Because a lot of people online will say RDS, which sounds a little cooler.
	But GRD, when you can't figure out what the initials mean, that's a bad sign.
	Right, it's like me making my, you know, I've got a PhD so I'm going to make my initials in writing DSG.
	Wouldn't that be weird?
	It would be pretty weird, yeah.
	Creepy, alright.
	State GRD's positive vision 2-3 times.
	Number 3, this is the one that really made it into the news.
	Hammer Vivek Ramaswamy in a response.
	Why?
	Why would you hammer?
	On what basis would you hammer an incredibly successful businessman who's standing by President Trump?
	Oh, I know why.
	Oh, because he's got 13 points and you've only got 8.
	I guess that's why.
	Oh, number four.
	Defend Donald Trump in absentia in response to a Chris Christie attack.
	Okay, Mr. G is back.
	Mr. G, welcome back.
	Thank you.
	Defend Donald?
	What?
	Ron DeSantis is meant to defend Donald Trump.
	Now what's going on?
	I think they're realizing that since he's been attacking Donald Trump, that's when he started falling in the polls.
	I think that's the first thing.
	But if he liked the guy so much and he was the mini-Trump, why does he need to be told to defend him?
	That's what I don't understand.
	So what do you think of this?
	Is this going to work for GRD, Jeff?
	I think it's more interesting that they're saying to attack Vivek.
	That's kind of been the campaign surrogates the last month.
	They've been going after Vivek.
	He's not even focused on Trump right now.
	They're trying to get rid of Vivek as the number two guy.
	That's how bad it is.
	You're right, the surrogates.
	Was it you who showed me or somebody that... One of the surrogates?
	Who was it?
	That guy with a funny name?
	Oh, Cardillo said... What did he say, Eric?
	He said, uh, Vivek is hiding that he's a Hindu.
	Exactly, yeah.
	Like, apparently...
	Hello, Dr. Gorka?
	thinks Rammus Swami is trying to pass himself off as a Christian and not
	acknowledge he's Hindu which is definitely not the case to anyone who listens to
	Halifax talks. Really slimy stuff. Slimy, slimy. Alright let's go to your calls
	while we're trying to get through to Larry. Larry where are you? You did great
	on Charlemagne the God. Are you recovering? Let's go to Adrian, Illinois,
	line one. Hello Dr. Gorka. Yes. I am a MAGA man. I'm a trucker, semi-driver and I
	would like to offer a service to President Trump.
	And I'm going to go ahead and close out the meeting.
	If President Trump were to get a semi and paint it up like this plane, I would like to offer to drive that as a rolling campaign message.
	Oh, I like that.
	I like that a lot.
	Stay on the line.
	We love our truckers.
	Jeff will give you his email address.
	Write your offer in a formal email to Jeff and I will forward it to Mar-a-Lago.
	Alright, Adrian?
	That's superb.
	Imagine, it's not Trump Force One, it's like Truck Force One.
	I like that.
	We love our truckers.
	Let's go to Mark Cleveland, line two.
	Yes, Dr. Gorkovs.
	Going back about a week, you had an individual on there.
	I forget if you wrote a book or whatever on Stalag Luft III.
	No, I didn't have a guess.
	We were reviewing The Great Escape and I mentioned the book upon which it was based.
	Yeah, excellent show, and the reason it really caught my attention was because my father was in Stalag Luft III.
	Oh my gosh!
	So he was shot down over Germany?
	Yeah, they had, you know, I have two books right here in my hand right now, Decision over Frankfurt, and they had these massive raids on the ball bearing plant.
	And he was shot down over Germany, but he made it.
	They were trying to make it back, but they couldn't, so they had to ditch in the North Sea.
	Then they got picked up by a German freighter and went to the Stalag Luft 3, but towards the end of the war, with the Russians coming, they decided to transport them down to the south.
	So he said the one thing that was really miserable about it, the train would stop and they'd take off a thousand guys and you'd have to do a number two on the side of the tracks and then everybody back in the train.
	And what was, because they made it, you know, in the movies, they made it seem as if, you know, they were treated not too badly in the camps for the air personnel.
	What was your father's experience like?
	No, he said they got along with the guards.
	He said even the guards weren't getting the kind of food they were supposed to.
	We had gardens and that, and we'd be trading onions and Red Cross packaged cigarettes and things like that for eggs and that, that the guards would give them.
	Fascinating.
	They had a good relationship with him.
	Stay on the line, Mark.
	Great, great call.
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	I used to have it on my sound box.
	I used to play it all the time.
	Just press the button.
	Probably one of the most racist things a future president has ever said.
	It's Joe Biden during the campaign telling you, if you're a certain skin color, you gotta vote for me!
	Cut 12.
	You got more questions.
	I tell you, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black.
	Excuse me?
	You bigot?
	Well, that was on Charlemagne Tha God's show.
	What an idiot.
	Does he not know how to spell?
	And a buddy of mine was on there a few days ago.
	It posted just a few hours ago and it was epic.
	And he mentioned that interview Charlemagne Tha God did with Joe Biden.
	A little bit different take.
	Cut 13.
	It is an incident where a person of color forgets that they are of color and are reminded, rather brutally, by an unexpected act of racism.
	Have you ever had any of those?
	Oh, brother.
	I'm just asking.
	You think you've ever had any of those?
	Well, I'm acutely aware, Charlemagne, that I'm a black person, just as you are a black person.
	And when Joe Biden insulted you by saying, You ain't really black.
	We don't know whether or not you want to vote for me or vote for Donald Trump.
	Uh, Timmy, that should have been a wake-up call on your part.
	How dare this guy come in here and insult you, a black man, and tell you you got to think a certain kind of way.
	I'm amazed that you weren't mad about that.
	He had no excuse.
	I've posted the video.
	You've got to watch it.
	But let's talk to the man that made Charlamagne look like a clown.
	Yeah, he's here.
	The sage of South Central, Larry Elder.
	How the devil are you?
	I am great, Dr. G. Thank you so much for having me.
	That was a classic moment.
	What Charlamagne Tha God said, it would set it up.
	I mean, it was a fastball, waist high, right over the plate, just where I like it.
	And basically he said, have you ever had a wake-up call from somebody who basically reminded you that you're black?
	Oh, you mean like when Joe Biden came on your show and told you, you ain't really black if you don't know whether or not you want to vote for me or vote for Donald Trump?
	Same guy who's been lying for decades about his alleged civil rights record, claiming that he desegregated movie theaters and restaurants in Wilmington, Delaware.
	Zero evidence.
	Same guy who lied and said he tried to visit Nelson Mandela during apartheid South Africa.
	That should have been your wake-up call, but apparently it wasn't.
	You weren't even insulted!
	He didn't have a whole lot to say.
	Yeah, he was very rude.
	His co-host was really rude to Vivek like two weeks ago.
	We were texting about it.
	You said, I'm not up next.
	I'm not going to be as gentle.
	And you weren't.
	And it was superb.
	Can we hold you over for one more segment, Larry?
	All right, so here's the first question I'm going to ask you here right now.
	We get lots of callers every single day and 99% of them are pro-Trump.
	A couple of fake pro-Trumpers who turn out to be DeSantis boosters and we kind of weed them out on air and we embarrass them.
	But the last couple of weeks we've had several callers Who with really kind of, not plaintiff voices, but really very serious emotional voices have said, Seb, we need Larry on that stage.
	Go right now to larryelder.com.
	Donate 10 bucks to it right now.
	So our listeners, some of our listeners really love you.
	And it's a weird question to ask you, but why?
	And these weren't black listeners.
	What makes you think that you trigger conservative listeners in such a good way?
	Because, Seb, I'm talking about some issues that even 45 is not talking about.
	Most notably, the number one social problem in America is not the epidemic of COVID, it's the epidemic of fatherlessness.
	70% of black kids enter the world today without a father in the home, married to the mother, up from 25% back in 1965.
	In fact, 25% of white kids today enter the world without a father in the home, married to the mother.
	And the stats are clear.
	If you're raised without a dad, you're five times more likely to be poor and commit crime.
	Nine times we're likely to drop out of school, and 20 times we're likely to end up in jail.
	What we've done with the war on poverty in the mid-60s, launched by a Democrat, I believe with the best of intentions, is we've incentivized women to marry the government, and incentivized men to abandon their financial and moral responsibility.
	I've got ideas about what to do about it, but nobody's talking about it.
	Nobody on our side, nobody on the other side.
	The other side, because they called it our side, because I believe if you're white and you say this, you're going to be accused of racism.
	If you're black and you say it, I was by the LA Times, of being the black face of white
	supremacy.
	So nobody's talking about being the most important domestic problem in America for those reasons.
	And I will.
	We're talking to Larry Elder. It's at Larry Elder, the website. Go right now is larryelder.com.
	We're going to continue the discussion. His most recent book is As Goes California.
	My favorite book is a lot like me, A Father and Son's Journey to Reconciliation.
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	patreon.com slash G-O-R-K-A It's just a three minute at the end of the hour so maybe
	just one question maybe two This is the D segment, sir.
	What?
	This is the D segment.
	That was C we just did.
	Oh, it's D?
	Oh, good.
	Then we'll have time.
	I'll ask you a couple of questions.
	First question up is going to be...
	What should they be talking about next week, all right?
	If you're not on the stage, beyond the issue of fatherless parents, what should the real debate be about?
	Yeah, it's funky.
	I get these calls from people saying, hey Seb, we got to get Larry up on the stage, donate money now.
	People out there love you.
	Well, I've been doing this a long time, and I think I would like to think I've bonded with a lot of people over a number of years, and they know I'm sincere, and they know I'm not going to be attacking Donald Trump.
	They know I love Trump.
	I campaigned for him and with him, and will do so again.
	And whenever I've been given a chance to take a shot at Trump, I've refused to do it, because that's not the problem.
	The problem is Biden-Harris.
	Bingo.
	Bingo.
	All right.
	We did Charlemagne.
	We've done Biden.
	Yep.
	Let's have a look at the rest.
	Play me the full of Cut 8.
	Cut 8.
	DJT.
	Well, first of all, it's amazing because you watch him, you don't even think he's going
	to get through the sentence.
	You know, the stopping and the halting and there's something going on over there.
	But this guy is advising us.
	He's the one negotiating with other countries.
	And you know, we're going to end up in a world war.
	So beyond taxes, I'm talking about, we have a man that's grossly incompetent.
	We're going to end up in a world war the way he's going to end up in World War Three, which
	is going to be a nuclear war.
	He doesn't understand what MAGA means.
	If you asked him right now to define MAGA, or to say what MAGA is, he would not be able to say, make America great again.
	He's always saying MAGA, those MAGA people, but if you would say, what does MAGA stand for, he wouldn't know.
	He wouldn't be able to tell you that.
	But you know it's called Make America Great Again and right now again is probably you have to use it because we don't have a great country.
	We have a country that's a laughingstock all over the world.
	We have a president who can't properly represent us.
	He goes to meetings in foreign countries and he makes a fool out of himself.
	He's a fool.
	I can just imagine President Xi, all of these leaders that I've gotten to know so well, Macron, they're laughing at this whole situation.
	Nobody can believe it.
	And this is what we have, and we're stuck with it.
	So Tester is Montana?
	Yes, he's Montana.
	He's like somebody out of New Jersey, isn't he?
	He's like, really?
	That guy's from Montana?
	Here's looking at you, Snowflake!
	America first.
	All right, Lee, Jerry, Wendy, Stan, don't go anywhere.
	We will take your calls, but we have connected with my buddy, my former colleague at Salem, Larry Elder.
	So we're going to continue the discussion for one more segment.
	So...
	Larry, we have a debate next week.
	I think we've got like six or seven people on the stage.
	Sadly you haven't made it, at least not yet.
	Amazing breaking news about the DeSantis campaign's Tactics for the debate.
	Hammer Vivek Ramaswamy and suddenly be nice to President Trump.
	So weird.
	Vivek's giving interviews saying, well that's a bit strange.
	Why would you want to hammer me?
	You talked about the key issue that you have credibility on and that's talking about the crisis in America when it comes to fatherless sons.
	What else should the GOP be discussing next Wednesday that They probably won't be.
	Well, first of all, it's fatherless men and women, not just sons.
	But Dr. G., don't be so dour about my prospects for making the debate.
	I'm only a few thousand short of the 40,000 necessary.
	I've got to get 1% in the polls.
	I'm already 1% in one major poll, the Trafalgar poll.
	I'm 1.2% in that one.
	I need one more, and I need to have one poll in one of the early primary states.
	I've already done that.
	And so, I'm this close to being in Milwaukee on the 23rd, so I expect to be there.
	I'll see you there.
	So, we're going to see you on that stage?
	Oh, yeah.
	I will be there.
	I'll get the 40,000.
	I'll get the 1% or so in the polls, based on the trajectory that I'm going on right now.
	And the cutoff date is August 21, so I'm quite confident I'll be there.
	And when I get there, the number one issue, of course, is economy.
	The way we've got inflation 40 year high, the way gasoline prices are about 40 percent more than they were when Biden took over his war against oil and gas.
	The crazy borders, about 7 million illegal aliens in the country right now who otherwise would not be there if he kept the Trump policies.
	And we've got crime rising all over America.
	So these are the issues that people are concerned about.
	My other big issue is this lie that America remains systemically racist.
	It's not just driving non-violent reparations in DEI.
	It's getting people killed because cops are pulling back all over the country for fear of being accused of being systemically racist.
	And there are thousands of people who are dead or have been injured by violent criminals who otherwise would not have suffered if the police had not pulled back from their proactive policing.
	And most of these excess casualties, Dr. G, are the very black and brown people that people on the left purport to care about.
	Then we've got this crappy K-12 education system in urban America, where 13 public high schools get to pick one city in Baltimore.
	13 public high schools, 0% of the kids can do math at grade level, while the Democratic elites like Barack Obama or Joe Biden or Gavin Newsom are putting their own kids in private schools.
	It's outrageous.
	If I can put these issues front and center, even if I'm not your candidate, if I can make the candidate and hopefully the country begin talking about these issues, I feel I've done my service for my party, and more importantly, Dr. G, I will feel I've done my service for my country.
	All right, let's get this man on the stage.
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	If you're up on the stage, you're going to have to talk about the other side as well.
	I've got to play this cut for you from Montana's John Testa.
	This is a senator being interviewed on MSNBC about the current incumbent from the White House, and it's a mind-shattering clip.
	Joe Biden, when I've been around him, and that's not every day, but when I've been around him, when I've seen him on the news, he's absolutely 100% with it.
	And he's got his recall, his cognitive ability, whatever you want to call it.
	I'm not a doc, I'm a dirt farmer, but he's fine and he's doing a good job.
	I think folks are making a bigger deal out of it than it is.
	Right.
	Making a bigger deal out of it than it is.
	Oh, so it is a thing.
	That's weird, Senator Tester.
	He's fine.
	His cognitive, whatever you want to call it, it's fine.
	Larry, do these people think we're just idiots?
	That they can lie to our faces about, as Dan Bongino, my buddy, calls it, the rotting bag of oatmeal in the White House?
	It depends on the standard.
	I'll give him this.
	Joe Biden apparently can fog up a mirror.
	But that really isn't the issue.
	The country, the inflation, the spending, paying people not to work, letting all the illegal aliens in, the way he encouraged governors to shut down the state and their economies, depriving kids of a whole year in California, two years of in-school education.
	It's his decision-making.
	I wouldn't have any problem if he sat in his basement and never came out, if he didn't raise taxes, If he didn't do the kinds of things to reverse the Trump policies on the border, if he didn't conduct this war against oil and gas, didn't try and force-feed us into owning EVs, making us even more dependent upon China, I'd have no problem with Joe Biden if he wasn't doing those things, even with his obvious cognitive decline.
	Alright, last question to Larry Elder.
	Go right now to LarryElder.com.
	LarryElder.com.
	Whoever's on the debate stage, whatever happens in the next year and a half, do you have confidence, Larry, that we are going to have fair and transparent elections in 24?
	I don't.
	We don't have a fair and transparent media.
	We don't have a fair and transparent Big Tech.
	We don't have a fair and transparent Hollywood.
	We don't have a fair and transparent academia.
	They all conspire to hurt Republicans and to boost Democrats.
	We know that the Hunter Biden laptop story was suppressed because of a collusion between the DOJ and Big Tech.
	with that 51 former intelligence agencies' agents, rather, operatives, signed that letter.
	I'm surprised there hasn't been a special counsel investigating whether or not a crime was committed,
	because that truly changed the election. Mark Zuckerberg spending $419.5 million of his own
	money on election officials in Democrat areas to get out of the election, the use of COVID in
	places like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin to change rules and regulations to benefit the
	Democrats. This month-long voting we have, no more single-day voting, no paper ballot, no IDs.
	I'm very, very concerned about all of this.
	And that is why Donald Trump is so angry, and that's why Donald Trump tried so hard to maintain his position in 2020.
	And I have absolutely no problem with that.
	Yeah.
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	I'll be on that debate stage.
	Yes.
	I'll be on that debate stage.
	I really hope so.
	Okay, now this is the E segment.
	Let's watch.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry.
	30 seconds.
	Let's check Terran's Skype early on during that break.
	Mm-hmm.
	Oh, and were you gonna send me that other video he wanted to...
	Oh my gosh, yeah yeah yeah.
	...get an email, that would be the best way to send it.
	Can't handle the truth?
	Is reality just too much?
	There's always NPR.
	I hear they have tote bags.
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	Line 1, Lee.
	Happy Friday.
	Oh, hi, Dr. Gorka.
	I love your show.
	I just have a question.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I was watching.
	Yes, once we overtake these government gangsters, what are we going to do about the mainstream media?
	Because they're so biased and they hate us so much.
	And they don't seem to ever tell the truth.
	Ignore them.
	Watch Newsmax and listen to Salem.
	It's very easy.
	I do.
	But I have friends that are liberals and they don't know anything that's going on.
	Of course not.
	Of course not.
	Eat the bitter fruit of the Democrats.
	Maybe they'll wake up.
	Until then, I don't think there's much helping them.
	Let's go.
	Thank you, Lee.
	Let's go to Jerry, New Jersey, line two.
	I think it's going to be interesting when Trump goes on Tucker.
	I think Tucker's probably going to get two or three times the amount of viewers that Fox will.
	Oh, totally!
	Oh, you know it!
	I mean, what was it, the second video he posted got 70 million views in 48 hours?
	I mean, they fire him from Fox and he's going to serve them up like, you know, Chop suey.
	It's going to be an embarrassment.
	You're absolutely right.
	For those who missed it, President Trump isn't going to the first GOP debate, but he's going to do an interview with Tucker Carlson instead on Twitter, which is absolute sheer genius.
	Thank you, Jerry.
	Wendy Louisville.
	Yes.
	I have a couple of suggestions for movies.
	Oh, please go ahead.
	Okay.
	Wait Until Dark.
	Wait Until Dark.
	What is that?
	It's Audrey Hepburn.
	It's a suspense movie.
	And, uh, I believe it was... Oh, that's not the one where she plays the blind woman.
	Yes, it is.
	Oh, that's a great thriller.
	I saw that as a kid.
	Superb.
	What's the second recommendation, Wendy?
	Okay, It's a Wonderful Life.
	Oh my gosh!
	Of course!
	We'll have to wait till closer to Christmas.
	Do you allow me to do that, Wendy?
	Oh, yes.
	African Queen.
	Sorry?
	Oh, African Queen.
	You know, I never got into African Queen.
	My wife likes it.
	We've got 30 seconds left.
	Why should I review African Queen, Wendy?
	It shows how dedicated we are to each other and everything else.
	And another one, Rudy.
	Rudy, oh my gosh.
	Superb suggestions.
	Love it, love it, love it.
	I can guarantee you we will do Rudy and we will do A Wonderful Life.
	Great call.
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	Dr. G is ready for anything on America First.
	Hey, Mr. G, I know you're back in the saddle.
	Quick radio etiquette check.
	Can I just do a random rant on a Friday?
	Well, I was going to say, whatever you said was going to be because it's Friday, you can do whatever you want.
	Because it's like, it's nothing to do with politics, nothing to do with culture.
	It's completely... The last two days, I've had such road rage because of other people.
	I want to rant about it.
	Can I rant?
	Was it after the post office or the 7-Eleven?
	Because that's usually your stories.
	Post office.
	Okay, that works then.
	Then it's allowed.
	If it's about the post office 7-11 or dog walking, it's allowed.
	So guys, this is a heartfelt plea, okay?
	I'm a bit of a type A and I've got a heavy right foot.
	I get it, okay?
	But I saw it was like four events in succession in the last two days and this is just a public service announcement to three million, three and a half million people out there.
	If you don't know how to drive, And you're not safe to drive.
	Don't bloody drive, okay?
	Get off the road!
	Give the keys to somebody else and call an Uber.
	Alright?
	First incident.
	I'm driving home.
	It's the side street before I get to my house.
	And I'm coming, it's just me, and I'm coming down the road, and this woman in a big black Mercedes pulls out of her drive, slowly, slowly, sees me, and then keeps pulling out of her drive into my lane of traffic.
	I just, just, just keeps on driving at like two miles an hour.
	And I barely, barely managed to not hit her.
	And she stops her car in the middle of the road!
	And I wind down my window, and she winds down her window.
	And I say, What are you doing, madam?
	And it's clear, she's probably in her seventies, that she has no idea.
	Did she mix up the accelerator with the brake?
	Are other cars allowed to be on the road when she is?
	It's like, you know, the lights are on, but nobody's home.
	And it's like, lady, you shouldn't have a license.
	If you think it's okay to pull out in front of somebody coming down the road, you are a menace to yourself and other people.
	Likewise, the elderly gentleman parking his car outside the Safeway.
	If you need to have your mouth open to operate a heavy vehicle, you shouldn't operate a heavy vehicle.
	I don't care if it's an A10 Warthog, a Combine Harvester, or an SUV.
	If your mouth is open, you probably don't have the mental faculties to operate a pair of scissors.
	We will all get to that point in time.
	Hopefully for me it's a long time because I hate being driven.
	I love driving.
	I'm weird.
	I love it.
	Okay?
	But if you can't operate the vehicle, don't operate it.
	It's dangerous.
	The last one I'm going to mention has nothing to do with age.
	I'm driving on a dual carriageway.
	Guy on the right hand side.
	Clearly There's an issue.
	Either he's just lost his license and doesn't want to be busted or he's an idiot or something.
	He's driving at two miles an hour.
	And I go up beside him and he's literally got his phone six inches from his face.
	I don't know if he's FaceTiming.
	I don't know if he's looking at porn.
	I don't know what he's doing.
	He's literally got his phone right in front of his face.
	We get a red light.
	I again pull down my window.
	He pulls his down, which is surprising, and I say, Sir, you probably shouldn't be on your phone with it in front of your face when you are handling one and a half tons of steel.
	And he just looks at me like I'm speaking ancient Greek.
	Is anything I have said, Guy, has anything I have said unfair?
	Sir, you're told to choose and nothing is unfair.
	Thank you.
	Eric, am I just, you know, is my blood pressure just too high?
	No, it's perfectly justified.
	I've also noticed lots of issues.
	People around here don't seem to know how to drive and maybe it's a DC thing.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	And a Sunday thing.
	Sunday is the worst.
	Alex, is anything I've said bad?
	No.
	Alright, for those of you who are watching on radio, he gave you a thumbs up.
	Thank you.
	Jim doesn't have a headset on, so we can't ask Jim.
	Mr. G, is that just a gawker rant?
	Is that just blood pressure?
	Let's see, you came across an elderly driver that you said shouldn't be driving, and then a guy that might be watching porn while he's driving on the phone.
	It sounds like you ran into Hunter and Joe.
	And that was not rehearsed.
	Bada bing.
	Mr. G is definitely back, and he is back in style.
	Alright, I've got so many great cuts to play.
	I've got people waiting.
	Let's use our anger in a useful direction.
	Let's talk about Bill Barr.
	Bill Barr had this to say on Rhino Cavuto's show, and I want to remind him of what he said two years ago.
	Cut seven!
	I wanted to know when it came down that you were, you know, the loyal attorney general, and then you just said, all right, enough is enough, because you resigned.
	The president said he fired you, but you resigned.
	But what do you think of that?
	I resigned on December 14th because I thought that at that point the state votes were certified, and that was the end of the legal process.
	And I also didn't like the way he was spouting the big lie.
	The big lie?
	About the election?
	Really?
	You're using left-wing talking points?
	The big lie?
	That's weird because there's somebody who's as fat and overweight as you who two years ago said this before the election on CNN.
	It's weird because he's also got the name Bill Barr.
	Cut 11.
	Well, this is playing with fire.
	This is playing with fire.
	We're a very closely divided country here.
	And if people have to have confidence in the results of the election and the legitimacy of the government, and people trying to change the rules to this methodology, which, as a matter of logic, is very open to fraud and coercion, is reckless and dangerous.
	And people are playing with fire.
	Wow, mail-out ballots?
	A reckless playing with fire?
	And then magically, magically, like 30 months later, it's the big lie?
	Bill Barr, that is proof you are no man of honor.
	In fact, you are scum.
	Let's go to line one, Greg, Arizona.
	Hey, good afternoon.
	And just a side note, no, it's not just Washington, D.C.
	It's pretty much everywhere.
	We've got drivers out here that could make you pull the rest of their hair out.
	Anyways... It's very hard to hear you.
	Can you pull your phone slightly away from your mouth?
	We'll take it out of your sock.
	Thank you.
	Is that better?
	That's much better.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, so bad drivers are everywhere.
	They are everywhere.
	So you can't escape it.
	Anyway, the thought that I had, obviously, with the digital currency that everybody's been talking about, and I do believe it's real as well, too.
	But my conundrum is, and maybe you can think this out, The biggest people who are beneficiaries of cash is the underworld, basically, who Biden and the whole Democrat Party is helping enrich immensely by bringing people across the border.
	Sex trafficking, you name it, all those.
	How do all those worlds exist when we go to digital currency?
	I don't...
	Wow, that is a fascinating question.
	Dude, Greg, that is superb, superb, superb.
	Well, we discussed it with Carol Roth yesterday, I mean the whole thread of digital currency, but we didn't ask that question.
	Let me write that down and get back to you.
	Greg, super, super, super.
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	Interesting.
	I'm sorry. I'm not sure if I can read it.
	Can you read me what is topic 2? Can you read it for me?
	Has Carafano lost his way?
	No, John's getting him mic'd up.
	He's on the phone.
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	Okie dokes.
	I'm going to put this on.
	For Terran, uh, you know what his title is?
	Is he like owner, CEO?
	Oh yeah, just put owner, Terran Tactical.
	Got it. All right.
	Did you know anything about that story, Jeff?
	Thank you.
	I remember hearing about it when it happened, but I didn't hear anything the whole last day while she was convicted and everything.
	No.
	Two minutes.
	Isn't that Trudeau's radical base?
	It was Canada.
	I did when it came out.
	Why?
	We went to... Andy Oliver, this guy, came out the other day from Virginia.
	Wrote a country-western song.
	He's like a nobody, and it already... Yeah.
	Yeah, it's like number one.
	Yeah.
	Eat Taylor Swift.
	Come in with Richmond, north of Richmond.
	Oh, okay.
	Let me think.
	No, no, no.
	In audio, Alex.
	Oh, okay.
	Thanks.
	Got it.
	Yeah, I remember thinking about it.
	Was that edited, Alex?
	I did, yeah.
	You should have sent it to me.
	I'm sorry.
	That's fine.
	Out of left field.
	I had to make sure.
	Nobody else wanted to do it.
	I said, I'll do it.
	Make sure what, Jeff?
	There's parts of that song you can't play.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Oh, he knows.
	I mean, we've played it already.
	We've got the dumb button if we're in trouble.
	70 seconds.
	Biden goes on this whole tour about Bidenomics and the economy.
	His poll numbers are worse.
	After he goes off deck.
	After he went on the tour.
	The fact that they're actually trying to pitch a thing for Buckethead, you know, what did I hit today?
	I was nuts.
	Highest mortgage prices in America for 31 years.
	I guess that's by economics.
	Well, the first house I bought was 17%.
	That was just shocking.
	I mean, almost the entire house payment went to pay for the insurance, yeah.
	But that was Jimmy Carter's economy.
	Wow!
	17%?
	17%?
	Wow.
	I thought I'd see those days again.
	Thirty.
	Yeah, seven and a half percent.
	That's killer for somebody.
	That's ridiculous.
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	You know who he is.
	From the Heritage Foundation, Colonel Dr. Jim Carrafano.
	Well, yeah, I did spend the weekend in Nashville, but... Oh!
	Did you meet him?
	Was he there?
	No.
	But I am a historian, right?
	And I do look at popular culture.
	And you know, it's interesting, right?
	There are waves of music and a musical taste to change.
	And one of them is just, you know, happy talk.
	Like, I mean, the hottest ticket today is Taylor Swift.
	I'm sure she's a lovely young girl.
	She's making millions of dollars.
	But 20 years from now, nobody will remember Taylor Swift.
	She is today's Barry Manilow.
	Because part of the time... Hey, I like Barry Manilow.
	We just love, but yeah, we like music.
	It feels good.
	But then, you know, there are periods in our lives when we're angry and upset that our overlords have failed us and that the basic things that we love about America are in danger.
	And we get angry about that.
	And so, for example, in the 1960s, you know, there was that whole wave of music, you know, Eve of Destruction, you know, Fortunate Son.
	These were, protest music is part of American culture.
	So why is this song annoying so many people?
	Well, this is the thing, right?
	And this is what people should take notice of, because there's something going on here.
	You know, remember Blake Shelton's song, Minimum Wage, where they attacked him for writing a song about the minimum wage?
	He basically said, buzz off, dude.
	I actually struggle to make a living.
	I can write this song.
	And then there's the Jason Aldean song, which, by the way, was attacked.
	And not just by liberals.
	It was attacked by conservatives.
	The National Review attacked it.
	Hang on.
	You said conservatives, but the National Review is hardly conservative anymore.
	The National Review attacked him, right?
	And they all kind of missed the point.
	He wasn't defending violence and telling people to get there.
	He was saying, you know what?
	We don't have to be ashamed of who we are.
	And we don't have to be woke to be normal.
	And if we want to live our community, we can do that.
	And that's what he was saying.
	And it resonated in the court because he was silenced, he was censured, he was abolished, and he blew through the roof in iTunes and had millions of views.
	Turn this into geopolitics.
	Is this just the pressure cooker valve letting off a little bit of steam, or do these songs, like Old Dean, like Oliver's, do these have broader significance?
	Yes, absolutely, because look, who is this kid?
	This is a nobody that nobody has ever heard from and wrote a very similar song in the sense that this is a song about being angry.
	This is the angst of blue-collar America.
	And that that is resonating to me says this is an inflection point in this country that there's a real debate here and that blue-collar Americans and everyday Americans feel like they're not being listened to.
	Right.
	And as everybody is saying go listen to Taylor Swift and buy a Beyonce ticket.
	People that work for a living and make a living, they're saying, no, that's not who we are.
	Right.
	We listen to us.
	And and as as you know, in the 1960s, when we had a huge kind of turmoil with the anti-war movement and then the civil rights movement, but also when in the 70s and we had stagflation in America.
	There's real angst in America today.
	Isn't it significant, the people who are criticizing it, that it's establishment, rhino class, plus the left-wing elite, who probably don't even understand what the song's about?
	Right, and you know what's interesting is, it's not that country music isn't woke, because it is, right?
	I mean, you know, Dolly Parton famously said, all lives matter, and they attacked her.
	She goes, oh, I'm sorry.
	No, black lives matter, right?
	It's become woke.
	One of my favorite country western, my favorite Americana country western, they had a whole
	LBGTQ month thing.
	I'm like, what does that have to, but here's the thing about country music, right?
	And you know why they call it country music?
	It's actually hillbilly music, right?
	It's bluegrass, it was the root of it, right?
	But it wasn't solid, because hillbillies seemed unsophisticated, so cowboys seemed a lot more
	So country music became country music because they had a better image.
	But what's interesting about country from its earliest days is it's the music of the people.
	And that's what's distinguishing it.
	It's music that came from hardworking people, rooted people, you know, much in the way Motown music did.
	And therefore, even though they're woke and you have the Dixie Chicks and everything, This is part of the DNA of country, that you have to write about everyday Americans, and everyday Americans are angry, and they're between 50 and 51% of this country, and they don't like the woke, they don't like woke foreign policy, they don't like domestic policy, they don't like people coming after their water heaters.
	There's a real fight and this notion that, you know what, we're just going to steamroller over them with Disney and the political elites.
	It's just not going to happen.
	There's going to be a real fight for the future of this country.
	Mr. G, did you think our resident expert in nuclear artillery would be analyzing the origins of country music for us?
	I've listened to country since, like, high school, and he knows a lot more about it than I do.
	I was very impressed.
	You're impressed?
	All right.
	He was impressed.
	I didn't see that coming.
	All right.
	The idea that Mr. G's into country music, also freaky.
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	All right.
	Hey, should we think about a... Should we think about a backup for Gen Monday?
	Because that hurricane is supposed to hit Monday.
	Oh yeah, totally.
	There's a good chance you won't have power.
	Uh, well, yeah, don't forget.
	Oh, um... Can we ask Jim?
	Hang on, hang on.
	Yeah, back up is Jim.
	But do we want to ask him?
	The CV's available?
	I mean, the cones, they're predicting, like, right at Southern California.
	I'll text him.
	I'll text him.
	I keep forgetting about that.
	I'll text him.
	They'll shut the power off for precautionary, especially after what just happened in Maui.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Correct, correct, correct.
	No, that's a good idea.
	That's a good idea.
	Oh, here we go.
	How country music speaks for everyday Americans.
	So are you a country music guy?
	I love all kinds of music.
	Are you going to put up a picture of him in a cowboy hat that he didn't know about, like you did when I went to Nashville?
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	Sorry.
	I love the history of American popularity.
	So when did they rebrand Hillbilly?
	In the 40s.
	That early?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	This is cool.
	I mean, Nashville wasn't the original home of country music.
	It was because of WSM, because they were a clear channel station, and they hosted Grand Ole Opry.
	Oh, okay.
	And then what happened was, there were a lot of those kind of shows, but they paid top
	dollar for people to come.
	And the record studios figured out it was just easier to go to Nashville and record
	people because they were there for the Grand Ole Opry than it was to bring them to Nashville.
	Atlanta, or Chicago, or New York.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And that's how it got started.
	Interesting.
	That was in the late 40s, yeah.
	Wow.
	How was Nashville?
	Did you have fun?
	Yeah, it's a great place.
	A lot of fun.
	The only place I've ever... The only time somebody's ever threatened to kill me on Facebook was when I said, I'm going to Nashville this weekend.
	And some said, OK, I'm going to come find you and kill you.
	Oh, jeez.
	Only Nashville.
	If they were sober.
	Yeah, a lot of people love it.
	No, it's great.
	It's a great tour.
	It's where the Daily Wire is, right?
	Is it?
	Yes.
	Yeah, Nashville.
	Also Huckabee.
	That's right, in that huge theater.
	Oh, I should have went and said hi.
	So yeah, you want to talk about the Summit?
	We can talk about the Summit.
	I want to talk about this story from Rob Bluey.
	Can we talk about KSM and the 9-11 guys who aren't going to get the death penalty?
	Who are not?
	No.
	I'll just get your opinion.
	I'll read what the statement says.
	Because, you know, it's a kind of terrorism thing.
	They're still alive.
	Well yeah, I do have something to say about that.
	Okay, good.
	I thought you would!
	I thought you would.
	I thought you would.
	45.
	Okay.
	I don't think I've ever more badly hoped for a prediction to come true than Jim's prediction that Taylor Swift will be forgotten in 20 years.
	I so hope that happens.
	You don't like Taylor Swift?
	She represents everything that's wrong with celebrities today.
	From the leftist stances to a huge ego.
	She has more money than you'll ever see in your lifetime.
	And what does that mean?
	That she's good?
	Well, she's a smart businesswoman.
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	They just finished the press conference at Camp David with the presidents and premiers of Japan and South Korea.
	We'll get to that, Jim.
	But this breaking news, got to get your reaction as somebody who's taught homeland security, who understands counterterrorism.
	The wives, the families of the 9-11 victims were sent a statement by the U.S.
	government That five of the 9-11 hijackers, including the mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who are still in detention in Guantanamo Bay, no trial date has been set.
	However, the office of the chief prosecutor has been negotiating a plea trial deal A no plea agreement has been finalized per the letter, but any deal would remove the possibility of a death sentence.
	These are for the perpetrators and architects of 9-11.
	Yeah, well, I mean, it's completely outrageous what we've become so kind of deadened to Malfeasance by the justice system and the idea of order, liberty and equal treatment under the law.
	It's just it's beyond shameful.
	But here, you know, my thought is we've kind of said, oh, yeah, terrorism.
	Well, you know, that's like a discontinued Netflix series.
	Right.
	But the reality is, is between the open border that we have And the explosion of extremist sanctuaries.
	And again, not a political statement, but in large part, thank you, Joe Biden, because now we have not only Afghanistan, but across sub-Saharan Africa, we've had seven coups in the last two years.
	Seven?
	In the last two years after doing Twenty years of U.S.
	counterterrorism-funded operations in Africa, there has been a 50 percent increase in extremist violence in Africa.
	Eighty percent of it is in this region, where the United States has spent well over several billion dollars working with governments.
	And this is all in the last two years.
	So here's my thing, right?
	And yeah, okay, I'm wrong.
	I'm crazy and I'm stupid.
	Yeah, what do I know?
	But what is to keep the Chinese, I get their economy's not doing great, to just covertly, like the Russians did all the time during the Cold War, just going to some terrorist group and say, here's a couple of billion bucks, go to America, kill a bunch of Americans, do another 9-11.
	Or, if you don't like that scenario, just go into some Central American Wahoo and say, here, here's a couple billion dollars.
	Go tell half your population to walk in the United States.
	Right, right, right.
	What's to keep China from exploiting, you know, because we tend to think symmetrically, right, you know, because you were a national security expert and you know this, right, this notion is you fire a tank, you shoot a tank at me, I shoot a tank at you, right?
	The Chinese also practice asymmetric warfare, which is, I don't hit you with the right hook you're looking for, I hit you with the gut punch that you're not.
	And the Soviets tried this in the 80s, which is why we hired Ronald Reagan, because we were going to butt kick.
	They started coming after us with terrorist insurgents, infiltrating Latin America.
	And Ronald Reagan put a stop to that, because he saw what was happening.
	What's to keep the Chinese from doing that playbook?
	So, to put it into plain English, Jim Carrafano, you're worried about the next couple of years?
	I have been worried about the next 9-11 since Joe Biden took office.
	And I was the guy, and we've had many conversations, people used to say, oh, terrorists coming across the southern border.
	And I'd say, well, look, that's just stupid, right?
	Terrorists like predictability.
	They're a limited asset.
	They want to know the security they're facing, right?
	That's why the terrorists got on planes and flew to the United States.
	They know when planes take off, they know when they land.
	Right.
	But, having said that, the border is so wide open now, right?
	And it is the easiest way to bypass American security.
	Because the FBI is off chasing school boards, and Homeland Security is out censoring your speech and taking illegal immigrants.
	They don't have time to go after terrorists, right?
	So you bring in a team from abroad that doesn't have any fingerprints in the United States.
	You walk them across the border.
	The first thing they do is they flag down a border patrol agent, and they don't tell them we're the terrorist team, but they say, hey, could we get a ride to Chicago, please?
	Yeah, let me hook you up with the NGO.
	Here's a cell phone.
	Where do you want to go?
	Go on the app, right?
	Go on your app and we'll take you where you want.
	And then you're all set.
	Which city would you like to go to?
	That's actually how it works in this current administration.
	If Jim Carrafano is worried, everyone should be worried.
	Please follow him.
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	There's a guy out there who's Basically a legend.
	Why?
	Well, let's show you a couple of things he's taught people to do.
	There's a movie you might have heard of.
	It's called the John Wick series.
	Let's show a little video from John Wick.
	Of course, that's not John Wick.
	It's the actor who plays John Wick, Keanu Reeves, shooting a real gun, real bullets, hitting those iron plates, not missing a single shot.
	I do think that was Halle Berry behind him.
	Who taught him to shoot like that?
	He's our guest, Teran Butler of Teran Tactical, multi-gun world champion.
	I never thought I'd get you on the show, but hey, impossible things can happen on Fridays too.
	Mr. Butler, welcome to America First.
	Thank you.
	I think Shermichael just texted us in a group text and we're good to go.
	Yeah, the buddies that took me through a very, very, very modest John Wick shooting session at a new range here in Virginia.
	I too did not miss any of the targets presented, not quite like the movies, but it was fun with the Genesis 12, with one of your custom Glocks, and with the Pit Viper, and I was the only guy in a suit, and now we're going to have a shoot in a suit competition.
	I think Sher, Michael and John have already locked in a date for that.
	Tell us your story, because to anybody in the gun world, you are the man.
	You teach actors how to shoot really and incredibly, and you yourself are like a galactic champion.
	Give away the secrets right now in front of three and a half million people.
	How do you get actors who know nothing about guns and just normal people?
	You've shown me videos of all kinds of interesting people at your range.
	What's the secret to accurate and rapid fire?
	Give us a little clue.
	Well, first I ask them what history they have.
	It's probably better they didn't have a lot of training because a lot of it can be stuff I have to undo and fix and go backward and try to get them back to level.
	So if they don't have a lot of experience, it's kind of a good thing.
	And then just some people are obviously more natural than other people at any kind of anything out there.
	So it depends on also how far they want to take it.
	Obviously John McFranchise wanted to go next level.
	And the audience loves it because they could see real talent on the screen and not just, you know, just CG this and that and everything is just done by stunt people and cameras, shaky cam lunacy and junk they did in the past.
	And what's great about Chad Stahelski and 8711 and those guys is that they wanted to like take Keanu next.
	So there's like seven months of training to get him there, not just with the weapons, but with everything else he's doing, riding horses and Tons of martial arts from every type of style you can imagine.
	Was he good to begin with?
	Did he have an aptitude to begin with?
	He had done some training in the past, I think for like Street Kings or something like that, other things like that.
	So there were a few habits I had to get rid of.
	One was actually, this is kind of a fun story, is he was flicking the gun to the side and the mag would fly out, but sometimes it gets caught and falls.
	Or whatever, and it was just too much work to try to, like, unfix it.
	So I'm just like, you know what?
	Let's just call this the Wick Flick, because it does look cool.
	It's not as fast of a reload as doing a normal reload, but it's cinematically, it's cool, the mags go flying across the room and all that.
	My fiancée is, like, the grandmaster, but also she's teaching it, teaching it right now to Jon Bernthal, the inverted Wick Flick.
	But, uh, you know, we left that alone, but he just, like, The most training before this goes on is just total basic stuff from like maybe just the next cop or a guy that was in the military in the 80s or whatever.
	And the reality is that this is multi-gun shooting.
	What I do, what other guys do, like Nils and other people that I sponsor in my company, Is being the best in the world with weapons with pistol rifle and shotgun that like the three guns you shot Yeah, and to be that fast that good that's like that's like Lewis Hamilton racing a car It's just next level versus just the basic training of just law enforcement, whatever which they don't get any training anymore
	No, it's pathetic.
	Let me ask you one geeky question before we run out of time.
	We're talking to Terran Butler, owner of Terran Tactical Innovations, multi-gun world champion, the man who taught John Wick, Keanu Reeves, how to shoot.
	TerranTacticalInnovations.com.
	I'm fascinated.
	I wasn't a 1911 guy.
	I've fallen in love with the 1911.
	Never really liked Glocks.
	Every Glock I needed to have custom work done on and shaved and everything else.
	Talk to us for just a minute about this transition.
	You represent both with the Glocks, the high-speed Glocks, and now the Pit Viper, this incredible gun that I shot a couple of weeks ago, this new 1911.
	We've got a photograph of it.
	How did the 1911 come back as the 2011?
	Explain that to me.
	Well, like in the early 90s, there was a pair of ordnance.
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	It's high-capacity, so instead of eight shots of .45, you've got 21 rounds of 9mm Magnum, or, like, 14 rounds of .45, compensated.
	And we had a Glock and John Wick 2, and it was a great gun, then a 2011 and John Wick 3,
	then went next level on John Wick 4, which has the pit vipers,
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	the flames come out the top as you saw.
	That cuts the recoil at least in half, and it's got these razor sharp fangs here,
	so if you watch the movie, you'll pull a slide off the gun,
	and he takes out a bad guy when he runs out of all six of the magazine.
	It's legendary.
	It's another reason to watch the John Wick movies.
	Next time we're going to shoot it in person together and we're going to have an event.
	I'm going to copyright it.
	It's shooting in a suit.
	Thank you, Taran Butler.
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	Well, that is amazing.
	Amazing.
	Just received it from Randy Merchmeister.
	I've just sent it to Eric.
	You requested it yesterday and we've designed it and it is already up on the website.
	We'll show you what that is in a second, but Alex, are you a fan of Mr. Wick and his Mustang?
	Yes, I am.
	But I think Guy might be a bigger fan of John Wick.
	Oh, really?
	Really?
	Guy, are you impressed that we had the man who taught John Wick how to shoot on the show?
	Dr. G, I'm grateful you invited this guest on our show.
	All right we got it that was like that seven minutes just that was just disappeared that was not enough we got we've invited him or I haven't sure Michael uh our new buddy Singleton and John Keyes who are going to do the shoot in a suit competition have invited Turan well actually Turan said I want to come to that so he's going to come to the DC area uh in October we've got to get him in studio for a longer chat maybe maybe Guy can get a selfie with him I don't know maybe we can make that happen In the meantime, I think I have to go and watch John Wick tonight.
	Which one?
	Which one?
	Guy, which one is your favorite John Wick?
	My favorite part is John Wick 4.
	4?
	Okay.
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	All this machine does is swim and eat and make little sharks.
	And that's all.
	Now why don't you take a long, close look at this sign.
	Those proportions are correct.
	Love to prove that, wouldn't you?
	Get your name into the National Geographic.
	It's like art.
	Larry, Larry, if we make an effort today, we might be able to save August.
	August?
	For Christ's sake, tomorrow's the 4th of July, and we will be open for business.
	It's gonna be one of the best summers we've ever had.
	Now, if you fellas are concerned about the beaches, you do whatever you have to to make them safe.
	But those beaches will be open for this weekend.
	Eat, swim, and make little baby sharks.
	It was the film that defined the concept of the summer blockbuster and put a certain 27-year-old on the map.
	Yeah, he was 27.
	The one, the only, Steven Spielberg.
	It's Jaws.
	And we're going to celebrate it.
	We're making movies great again with our co-host, the alpha critic, the host of the Mr. Reagan channel on YouTube, Chris Coles.
	How the devil are you?
	Did you enjoy this week's choice?
	Kind of.
	What?
	You guys, of course, know.
	You know that I'm living in Hawaii.
	You know that I go out here off Ala Moana Beach maybe three, four times a week to swim in the ocean.
	And you guys for some reason decided, you know what a good idea for Chris to watch is?
	Jaws!
	Thanks a lot, guys.
	Well, you're going to Oregon, aren't you?
	So maybe we'll do Cabin in the Woods next week, okay?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Perfect.
	Perfect.
	All right.
	This was a little story, a little backstory.
	So, of course, during COVID, nobody was making movies.
	Now we have the writer's strike.
	What a blessing on one side.
	And so there were no movies to show in theaters.
	And I was traveling on business somewhere.
	And I hate sitting at home or in the hotel after I've given a speech or whatever.
	So I went to the local movie theater.
	And because there were no new movies, they were showing the old ones.
	Now, I was born in 70.
	This came out when I was five years old.
	I got to see Jaws in a movie theater during COVID for the first time.
	And man, seeing this movie on a big screen, I hope we watch movies in cinemas for forever, Chris.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Oh yeah, it's a great experience.
	There's really, I don't know, I never feel, because I lived in LA for a long time.
	And there is something special about seeing a movie in the theater.
	I remember when I was a kid just the smell of popcorn, you know, and It's changed a little bit.
	There are certain theaters in L.A.
	that you can go to that people are very respectful of the film because it is Hollywood.
	You know, you've got a lot of industry people there.
	But then if you go maybe outside the Hollywood area and you go into some, like, other, you know, regions, people are very weird now in movie theaters.
	They're disrespectful.
	They're loud in certain places.
	And it's not quite the same experience as it was, and I got the same feeling just watching Jaws and seeing all the stuff from the 70s.
	You know, it's strange.
	I smelled someone's cigarette the other day.
	I was, I was bicycling past somebody smoking a cigarette.
	This is the weirdest thing.
	I actually was nostalgic for the smell of cigarette smoke because I thought, you know what that reminds me of?
	The 1980s.
	There is something about this era, the 19, this is filmed, I believe it was.
	75.
	Put into theaters in 1975, right?
	75, the 70s, the 80s.
	This was four years before I was born.
	But because we were kind of poor when I was a kid, everything we had was from the 70s anyway, so much of the 80s looked like the 70s.
	And, you know, there's something really magical about that era.
	A lot of stuff about that era is lost, and I think that's the kind of thing that we mean when we say, make America great again sometimes.
	Yeah it looking look it's a it is truly a classic it's an incredible movie but it is locked in time it's not it's not dated in a way that makes it unwatchable but you look at the people you look at how they're dressed and also the people look normal I mean nobody's plastic nobody's perfect I was looking you know I don't know for you but for me Roy Scheider He's a pillar of my childhood.
	I mean, truly, this is a guy, as a kid, I was like, wow, I want to be that guy.
	You know, I want to be the cop from, you know, the French Connection.
	I want to be the Vietnam vet helicopter pilot from, you know, Blue Thunder.
	And then this, and you look at Roy.
	Roy's not Henry Cavill, right?
	He's not some kind of male model.
	Nobody in this is a male model.
	Nobody is, you know, engineered at Central Casting.
	It's real people, Chris.
	And these are the movies that take you back to when, you know, people were genuine.
	Absolutely.
	My buddy Kurt has a theory that film directors often cast the better-looking version of themselves in every film.
	So Tim Burton, he uses, you know, I forget the name of the guy.
	Johnny Depp.
	Yeah, he uses Johnny Depp, exactly.
	And Lucas used Harrison Ford all the time.
	Spielberg doesn't have a go to necessarily, maybe Richard Dreyfuss, but Scheider is a kind of better looking version of Spielberg.
	They kind of have a similar look, but yeah, he's actually magnificent.
	I'd like to point people's attention to a scene that no one would remember.
	This is a scene where Hooper comes to the house.
	He's got two bottles of wine.
	He sits down, steals some of their dinner, and starts to discuss this shark.
	This is just before they go cut the shark open to make sure the little boy's not in there.
	And Roy Scheider is picking, he's like peeling the label off of the wine bottle.
	Right.
	And this is, yeah, this is kind of an old actor's trick.
	You always want to have something to do with your hands.
	This is why when smoking was normal, it was much better for actors.
	They had something to fiddle with.
	But this moment, if you just watch him carefully, it really looks like a guy having a conversation, a little bit buzzed, just picking the label off of a wine bottle.
	It really feels like he's doing that in that moment.
	This man is one of the best actors in the history of cinema.
	Truly brilliant.
	And for Spielberg's first cinematic theatrical released film, Yeah.
	I mean, what a catch to be able to bring, you know, pardon the pun, to be able to bring this guy on board, truly a legend.
	And I mean, I think without him, Jaws would not have been the movie it is.
	Oh, agreed completely.
	And if you go to that scene, if you haven't seen it in a while, you need to go back to the movie in that scene.
	Hooper plonks down, I mean this is a rich kid, he's self-financed, owns his own boat, he's bought them a really nice bottle of red wine, and Hooper puts it on the table and Sheriff Brody goes to open it immediately and starts pouring a A beaker full of wine for himself.
	As the perfect timing, as Dreyfus says, let that breathe a bit.
	Oh, and the guy's just sloshing it into the beaker because he wants to get drunk.
	So just the timing as well as the genuine nature.
	Quick question before we move on.
	What is this movie, Chris?
	Is it a thriller?
	Is it a horror movie?
	Is it an adventure?
	It's a kind of sui generis category, isn't it?
	Yeah, I like genre bending or genre defying films like this.
	Ghostbusters is like this.
	You know, is it a horror movie?
	Is it an action movie?
	Is it a comedy?
	And there's lots of comedic bits in this film as well.
	I think that Jaws is best categorized as a great Film and great films are difficult often to categorize.
	And that's just that's just what happens here.
	I think if you really most people would categorize it as like a monster movie or or, you know, or even like a slasher film, it's kind of in that genre where, you know, you've got in the same way that Halloween had this, you know, had this camera that was from the perspective of the of the murderer.
	You have a camera that is from the perspective of Jaws.
	And it's an unstoppable monster, just like Michael and everybody else from the slasher movies.
	Perfectly put, but it is gender-bending and we love those films that kind of You know, break the taxonomy of Hollywood.
	It's Jaws.
	It's the OG.
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	Martin, a summer girl goes swimming.
	Swims out a little far.
	She tires.
	Fishing boat comes along.
	It's happened before.
	I don't think you appreciate the gut reaction people have to these things.
	Harry, I appreciate it.
	I'm just reacting to what I was told.
	Martin, it's all psychological.
	You yell barracuda.
	You're racist.
	Huh?
	Why?
	You yell shark.
	We've got a panic on our hands on the 4th of July.
	I want a jacket with those ship anchors on it.
	I think that is mandatory.
	Mari Hamilton, the mayor, what a superb piece of casting.
	Just the sleaziest of sleazy local politicians.
	Yeah, it's amazing that Cameron was brilliant to cast Fauci in True Lies, and now we've got Spielberg casting a young Joe Biden as the mayor of Amity.
	I mean, it was absolutely brilliant.
	You don't get slimier than a young Joe Biden.
	Thank you for that injection of real life.
	Let's start dissecting this Proto, the original summer blockbuster.
	Why does it work?
	You're a writer, you've been on the other side of the camera.
	Why does this have the iconic place it has today?
	You know, I'll tell you what, there's two things that I noticed while I was re-watching this film again.
	One, it's shot in a very organic way.
	I don't remember... I can't think of another Spielberg film that's like this.
	Maybe the TV show... Define organic.
	Well, he's got the camera.
	It looks like it's being handheld most of the time.
	He's got these very unusual angles.
	And it just looks like everything is shot like borderline documentary style.
	It's just like following the characters around very loosely.
	It's just a very, the way that everything is shot, it seems very naturalistic.
	It feels like we're there with them.
	It doesn't feel like anything is staged.
	It doesn't feel like, it's very, yeah, it just feels very natural.
	And then, so you've got that, which gives a sort of realism to what we're watching.
	We feel like this is actually happening.
	There is a shark in the water.
	It is dangerous.
	The timing is perfect.
	There's a lot of things Spielberg did.
	It's amazing that this is his first theatrically released film, because everything is frame by frame perfect.
	It's brilliantly done.
	And the acting is superb.
	You needed perfect actors to pull this off, and he got perfect actors for all the characters.
	But then I think what takes it over the top, that takes it from just being a really, really good movie to being one of the most legendary films of all time, Is that score, that John Williams score is so iconic.
	It's so brilliant.
	It really just takes them.
	It's sort of like Star Wars.
	It just takes it from a great film to a legendary film.
	And he set the standard for films for a decade, at least.
	You know, John Williams is the standard.
	And, you know, people make jokes about it.
	People have parodied the da da da da da.
	I mean, You know, it has become this legendary beat, but it also, what does it infer?
	Unstoppable force.
	That very simple beat.
	This is an unstoppable force of nature, and that's what is expressed in the music.
	And it's all the more surprising if, so I've got the original paperback that I read as a kid on the beach in Spain that didn't make me want to swim ever again.
	The irony of the perfection of this film is if you watch the making of documentaries, or if you're really as geeky as I am, we've got the cover of the book, The Jaws Log, so the writer, The Jaws Log, the writer of the movie, did a kind of blow-by-blow journal, Carl Gottlieb, That is, if you're really into how movies are made, it's like a day-by-day of how the movie was made.
	And it was beset with problems.
	The weather, Bruce, the mechanical shark, the writing, you name it.
	Oh, and I think it went at least 100% over budget.
	So just like another classic like Casablanca, this is the irony of it, Chris, the films that seem to be beset the most by problems, for some reason, They come out as masterpieces.
	Yeah, you know, it's really bizarre.
	There's a rumor about how the concept of getting that perspective of the shark and not showing the shark for most of the film came about, which is that the mechanical shark just wasn't working.
	So there's a rumor, I don't know if this is true or not, that they were supposed to show the shark much earlier in the film, but because they couldn't get the dang thing to work, Uh, they just had to use all these clever shots to, uh, sort of, like, imply that the shark was there, and it made it far, far more scary.
	I gotta be careful with my facts, because last time, with the True Lies video, I said that, uh, Cameron cast his father in the bathroom scene, but that turned out not to be true.
	I looked it up, and I was like, That's just a rumor that wasn't true, and I, like, said it on the show as fact.
	I was humiliated.
	Calm down, calm down, calm down.
	I can confirm for you that what you are stating as a rumor is not a rumor.
	It is, in fact, true.
	It is true.
	In fact, the, before they hired Spielberg, they had another director who was fired, who actually wanted Jaws to erupt out of the water in the first scene of the film.
	So, yes.
	Wow.
	Yeah, in the first scene.
	Now, he was fired.
	Along comes Spielberg, 27 years old.
	And the plan was to have the shark, you know, everywhere.
	I mean, they spent a huge amount of money on Bruce.
	We have the mechanical shark.
	We can put it up on the screen.
	They had four of them, one from each side, one that would do the swimming, you know, from the top.
	And it just, it was built in freshwater tanks in LA.
	And the idiots didn't realize that when you build something in freshwater and test it, and then you take it to the sea, the saltwater behaves a little differently.
	And it has a different buoyancy.
	So the stinking thing never worked.
	I mean, Bruce was always broken.
	So that's, for example, why they came up with the barrels.
	Because they couldn't, the thing just kept breaking down.
	So they said, well, we've got to show the menacing movement somehow.
	Oh, let's have them harpoon it with yellow barrels and then we can film the barrel.
	So yes, I mean, which is hilarious because you think of Alien, you think of, you know, later on, you'll think of, you know, the likes of, um, The director, what's his name?
	Ridley Scott.
	Ridley Scott, who deliberately said, I don't want to show the monster.
	I'll say, you'll get glimpses of the monster, because your mind, your imagination is far more capable of coming up with something scary.
	And at the end of the movie, we'll show it.
	Here, with Jaws, they were forced to, because they didn't have computer graphics, and it didn't work.
	And the barrels thing is so perfect because it gives you this perfect sense of how menacing this beast is.
	He takes one barrel down.
	They say it should keep him buoyant.
	Two barrels.
	Two barrels will definitely keep him close to the surface.
	Three barrels, he won't even be able to dive into the ocean.
	Not a chance.
	So the music stops.
	The barrels are going toward the boat.
	And then just as they sink under the water, the music stops, right?
	And Quinn, who's this whole time been laughing and joking around, doesn't care at all, perfectly confident getting
	this shark, suddenly he's like, we gotta go back to shore.
	Heh heh heh heh.
	And you think, well, this is the first moment you're like, Quinn is scared.
	Quinn is actually scared of this beast.
	Well, and if he's scared, we are scared.
	You know, so it was you get that visual, you get that visual of one barrel, two barrels, three Beast in the water.
	So it was absolutely brilliant.
	Whether it was an accident or it was... No, no, no.
	It was, it was, you know, it was force de la majeure.
	They had to do it.
	Shocking, shocking that it turned out so well.
	I know.
	We'll talk about Quint momentarily.
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	This shark will swallow you whole.
	A little shaking.
	A little tenderizing.
	Down you go.
	Hey, Chief.
	You try this.
	Made it myself.
	Pretty good stuff.
	Thanks.
	Here's to swimming with bow-legged women.
	Sample bottles, dimarkers, flares, safety floats, temperature gates, spear guns, SMG.
	What are you, some kind of half-assed astronaut?
	If they don't like you going out, they'll love you coming in!
	Stop playing with yourself, Hooper.
	Go ahead, if you please.
	Back home, we got a taxi derby man!
	He's gonna have a heart attack when he sees what I brought him!
	From a man for all seasons to one of the most believable villains in a Bond movie, Red from the Russia with Love, I just want to pay tribute to the man who I think was lost far too soon, Quint, played by Robert Shaw, actor, author, playwright, died three years after Jaws came out.
	There's a lot of great acting in this movie, but I think we have to salute Robert Shaw, don't we, Chris?
	Oh, absolutely.
	I mean, the man created a character here in this film that is utterly believable.
	And it's very easy to make this kind of character a bit corny, right?
	A bit exaggerated, a caricature.
	But he walks that line.
	He's able to create a character that's very iconic and very colorful.
	But also naturalistic and believable.
	And at the time in the 1970s, like, you just, it's, I don't think we really have characters like that anymore in the world.
	You get people who pretend, but this guy's like, this guy feels like the real deal.
	In the 1970s, you definitely had characters like that, that were kind of throwbacks to like the 1940s and stuff.
	And, and he's, and he's like that in this film and he pulls it off and you believe it.
	And I think possibly, at least in part, because there really were people like that back then.
	Oh yeah, this guy's the real deal.
	And I don't know if it's obvious or if it comes across in the movie, but the tension between marine biologist Hooper and Captain Quint isn't accidental.
	Apparently, if you listen to the interviews with Richard Dreyfuss, Sure.
	Hated.
	Hated Dreyfus.
	At least on set.
	He was nice off set.
	As soon as he was on set it was just like it was hammer and tongs and it was some kind of hatred or competition and I think it probably comes through the camera.
	Yeah, that's really interesting.
	I'd never heard that before.
	But yeah, Dreyfus's character is, you know, very nebbish.
	He's this nerdy marine biologist type, you know, comes from a rich family, doesn't really know how to deal with, you know, working class people.
	There's a moment where he says, I don't need this working class hero crap, you know?
	And it's a great line because he kind of, you know, hits the nail right on the head there.
	That's exactly what Shaw is.
	He's a working class hero.
	And, you know, Hooper is a nerd.
	And, you know, of course Shaw's not gonna respect him.
	It's interesting.
	I wonder if that is kind of who they were.
	You know, sometimes you cast somebody because of who they are, you know,
	who they are in real life to some degree.
	And those kinds of characters you would expect to clash.
	The moment that they're drinking and they sort of like bond and become friends,
	I love that scene because that's kind of how men are.
	Yes.
	You know, we naturally look at each other as enemies.
	Okay, you're good at this.
	Well, I'm good at this.
	Screw you, screw you.
	And then you get a little bit drunk and you start sharing war stories.
	And soon enough, you guys are best friends.
	So it was a great, great scene.
	And they start off how?
	They start off by comparing their scars and that's how we get to the tattoo he had removed of the USS Indianapolis.
	That we must play a clip of.
	By the way, just go back.
	This is the iconic scene of the movie.
	Go back and watch it if you haven't seen it in a while, because that scene of them drinking, war stories in Indianapolis, was shot two days.
	And on the first day, Robert Shaw was literally blind drunk.
	They had to carry him onto the boat.
	He was so drunk before they started filming.
	He's not acting.
	He's actually drunk.
	And when they finished it, the next day they went back to do it again and he was stone-cold sober.
	He asked the director, did I embarrass myself yesterday?
	And Spielberg said, not fatally.
	So they re-shot it.
	Both versions are edited together and I challenge you to tell me which was the dry show And which was the legless show?
	I don't think you can tell.
	We will play a clip momentarily.
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	All right, we cannot mention, we cannot review this film.
	A film that defined the phrase summer blockbuster without the Indianapolis monologue before Jaws finally attacks.
	Here's a little snippet.
	Very first light, Chief.
	Sharks come cruising.
	So we formed ourselves into tight groups.
	You know, kind of like old squares in a battle, like you see in a calendar, like the Battle of Waterloo.
	And the idea was, shark comes to the nearest man, that man, he starts pounding and hollering and screaming.
	Sometimes the shark go away.
	Sometimes he wouldn't go away.
	Sometimes that shark, he looks right into your... right into your eyes.
	You know the thing about a shark?
	He's got... ...lifeless eyes.
	Black eyes, like a doll's eyes.
	When he comes at you, he doesn't seem to be living... ...until he bites you.
	And those black eyes roll over white, and then... ...ah, then you hear that terrible high-pitched screaming.
	The ocean turns red, and... ...despite all the pounding and the hollering, they all come in.
	Rip you to pieces.
	Now, the story of this monologue is fascinating.
	They were desperate here.
	The film was floundering.
	Nobody believed it was going to be a success.
	Bruce wasn't working, despite the fact that Bruce, the mechanical shark, was built by the man who built the giant squid from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.
	Of course, that squid was filmed in a freshwater tank.
	So all kinds of problems.
	Tension between Dreyfus and between Shaw.
	So what do they do?
	I think at one point, we're gonna have to have a special of this show, Chris, where we just do an hour on one person because his name comes up again and again and again in all of these classic movies.
	It's John Milius.
	Spielberg reaches out to Milius and Milius says, I'll fix your movie for you.
	And he writes the Indianapolis monologue, which is of course based on a true story.
	The ship that had the top secret mission to carry the two bombs for Hiroshima and Nagasaki that was torpedoed by the Japanese.
	1,100 men went into the mortar.
	Hundreds of them were killed by the sharks.
	And then Milius writes this massive long soliloquy that would have taken, you know, 40 minutes to read.
	So what happens?
	Sure.
	who is a playwright himself and a poet, he edits it down.
	Wow.
	Robert Shaw, the man who's gonna deliver it drunk, edits it down, and it's a completely collaborative thing.
	Roy Scheider, that line, which I think is the most amazing line of all,
	it's got dead eyes, a doll's eyes.
	That's Rod Scheider.
	Rod Scheider wrote that.
	Talk to us about how important, even if it's no action, but a movie with, like, three minutes chunk of dialogue, if you get it right, it works, doesn't it?
	Well, you know what's bizarre about this soliloquy, as you call it?
	It's almost artificial if you read it on paper.
	It's too poetic for real life, right?
	But the way that it's performed, It really feels like he's staring.
	He's got that, you know, thousand-yard stare.
	He's, like, looking into space, just remembering what happened.
	Yeah.
	He's a bit drunk.
	Well, he's quite drunk, probably.
	And he's remembering this tragedy, and he's recounting it.
	And it really feels like that's what he's doing.
	People got to understand, when you're acting, you read a script, right?
	You read a script.
	You read, you know, a paragraph of dialogue, whatever it is.
	You memorize that.
	And then you have to express it in a way that seems naturalistic.
	Now, if you memorize a bit of dialogue and you state it, then the average person will state it like, a shark's eyes are like a doll's eyes.
	Normal people will not express that in a way that seems naturalistic.
	This guy doesn't just state it in a way that's naturalistic.
	He states it in a way that's compelling.
	It really feels like that is what's going on in the moment, that he's there drinking with his buddies and he's recalling this.
	The dialogue doesn't seem memorized.
	It seems like he's thinking it up.
	You can kind of virtually see the cogs turning in his head as he's remembering these moments.
	They just seem to be coming to him.
	Absolutely brilliantly performed, absolutely brilliantly written, and just, yeah, a classic moment.
	I mean, it's considered a classic film for a reason, and this moment is considered one of the best moments in film history for a reason.
	Yeah, I think that would be a fascinating exercise.
	If you want to understand what being a good actor is, and a good writer, just look at the script of that three minutes and read it on paper.
	And then watch the delivery by Shaw and then you understand, you know, why these guys and gals get the big bucks.
	Let's talk for a bit about the alternative casting because you know what all movies are like.
	They never get their first pick or rarely.
	Who was meant to be the original Quint?
	None other than Lee Marvin.
	Would have been interesting.
	Wow.
	Would have been interesting.
	But Lee Marvin was in Mexico deep-sea fishing.
	He was doing his own, you know, jaws in real life.
	And he didn't want to ruin his fishing trip.
	The irony.
	The irony.
	He said, no, I'm on vacation.
	I'm going tuna fishing.
	Sod you.
	The other choice that Spielberg had for Quint, a guy he worshipped, was the actor Sterling Hayden.
	If you remember him from the Kubrick movie.
	What is the movie about the nuclear war?
	Dr. Strangelove.
	Sterling Hayden was his next choice.
	Sterling Hayden had very serious tax issues with the IRS, so he couldn't accept a job to be in this movie.
	Hooper, originally, if you read the original book, I'm glad they took it out, had a...
	Lots of side stories about the mafia, organized crime on the island, and Hooper having a love affair with Brody's wife.
	I'm glad they took that out.
	He wasn't a neb in the book.
	He was this, you know, beach bum, beautiful guy, blonde hair.
	Jan Michael Vincent was the original choice.
	Jan Michael Vincent, so the man who would later fly a very sexy helicopter.
	And then the original, the original Brody would have been a completely different movie, Charlton Heston.
	That would have been very different, no?
	Oh, wow.
	You know, it's an interesting idea, because Charlton Neston is indeed qualified for this.
	He's one of the few actors that I would say has the chops to be able to stand side by side with Roy Scheider and say, you know, yeah, this was a great performance.
	It surely would have been.
	But yeah, it would have been.
	Jan Michael Vincent, the captain of Airwolf, You know, it's an interesting concept.
	I don't hate it.
	I actually don't hate Charlton Heston and Jen Michael Vinson as the as the leads in this film.
	I think that would have been fine.
	But the way that it came out, I think it was actually a little bit more appropriate for the 70s.
	It's a weird thing about the 1970s.
	In the 70s, there was this movement against beauty.
	Yes.
	It's kind of this weird thing.
	Like the Volkswagen Beetle was an ugly car and they used to advertise it with the word, with a picture of the Beetle and underneath it said ugly.
	You can look up the posters.
	It's crazy.
	Just ugly.
	And then it's like, it's an ugly car, but it does the job.
	It's a magnificent car, but it's ugly.
	And people liked Ugly.
	That's why he had the big hair and everything, and the weird mustaches.
	There was this weird thing in the 70s, it's like, we're not so shallow that we care about aesthetics.
	That was like a weird 70s thing, and it kind of shows in this movie a little bit.
	And the funny story of how Scheider got the job, so he can't get Heston, he can't get, you know, who he wants to act, so Spielberg is bitching and moaning at a Hollywood party to Roy Scheider and saying, I can't get my choice and I've got this movie and I want this guy to play the sheriff and Scheider literally says to Spielberg, Hey!
	I'm an actor!
	Why don't you ask me?
	And Spielberg goes, oh, okay, that's a good idea.
	That's how sometimes it works.
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	Chris, before we go to our ratings of yellow barrels for this movie, couple of questions we can't avoid.
	Number one, Bruce.
	Is there a problem with Bruce?
	Because there are moments where you know it's not real, but then again...
	There are moments where I just, I watched it again last night.
	So here, you see this thing and you go, is it, are they ruining it by seeing this?
	And then again, there's a photograph I sent Eric from the top of the mast of the orca of Roy looking down on the shark.
	And I tell you, dude, to this day, that scares the crap out of me.
	You know, there are moments where you go, that is scary.
	So talk to me about Bruce.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there are moments that do take you out.
	It's, you know, there was this thing that we used to call suspension of disbelief.
	I mean, that's still a part of filmmaking.
	You don't need it so much with the special effects anymore, because typically a big budget movie is going to have perfect special effects.
	It's gonna be very, very hard to tell computer generated stuff from the practical effects like they've got here.
	Back then, they didn't have that option.
	And I think that people understand the limitations that they had.
	And sure, it isn't perfect.
	I do think when the shirt comes in at that moment, because of the eyes, you can kind of see the eyes moving a little bit.
	It does feel real.
	And then it's not until you see the teeth and stuff that you go, OK, maybe maybe it's a little fakie.
	We talked about this with Star Wars back in the day because of film grain and because of how it was projected and how you would lose quality with every copy in the theater.
	I don't think you would have been able to see the details as well as you can see them now.
	High def.
	You know, you don't even have to see it in 4K and it's still right.
	Yeah, you'll still see it.
	You'll still see the like the mistakes and it looks a little bit fakie here and there.
	I think you can kind of get past that.
	I think most people can get past it just because we do recognize it.
	It's a film from a period in which they didn't have Technology to create it perfectly.
	But, man, they do as good of a job as they could at the time.
	Look, this movie was a genre-defining film to some degree.
	I mean... Or genre-creating, right?
	Genre-creating, exactly.
	You know, in Back to the Future 2, I think, you know, when he goes to the future, he sees, like, Jaws 17, right?
	Because they had made, like, seven Jaws movies or something.
	Well, that didn't happen, but what did happen?
	We got Sharknado.
	We got the Megalodon.
	You know, we're in a big gazillion.
	I mean, exactly.
	Jaws created a genre of the shark movie and it just continues on forever.
	There's a gazillion of these things and why?
	It's because of this film.
	It was so brilliantly done.
	And if you watch it from beginning to end, you understand why.
	There's humanity, there's humor, and it is absolutely terrifying.
	Just the cheering when he shoots it, just the way he... And here, look at this.
	This is when you realize why practical effects work.
	That looks like a dead shark blown in half.
	You know, with all the bits trailing out, the explosion itself.
	You know that's not CGI.
	That looks organic.
	Why does it look organic?
	Because it is.
	Bruce may have been made of rubber, but I watched an interview with the guy that did the special effects.
	Do you know why that explosion looks so real, Chris?
	Because they took the rubber-brewed shark and they filled it with a ton of calamari.
	So fake blood, calamari, so you explode it and there's, you know, tentacles and flesh going everywhere and that Why it looks real.
	And lastly, because this is such a thing from my childhood, there's a photograph of Brody firing his M1 Garand, or it's probably Quince.
	This for me is my childhood.
	That photograph That is like, yeah, that's summer movie time, you know, as he's about to shoot the oxygen tank in Jaws' mouth.
	And it's so part of my history now.
	I have one above my, in my man cave.
	So there's my M1 Garand rifle, deemed by General Patton to be the most significant weapon of war in World War II.
	I was shooting it At a range in New Hampshire, the local gun store owner was letting me borrow it, shooting 600 yards with iron sights.
	And I said, this is amazing.
	I need one.
	And he let me buy it.
	So if you're looking for a piece of American history, M1 Garand is what you need.
	30-yard six, one of the key weapons, not just the nukes in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but the M1 Garand that the GIs carried.
	Alright, little bit of a personal history there.
	Gotta talk about guns as much as we can.
	So, final thoughts before we grade on Jaws.
	Any unfinished business, Chris?
	Well, look, I mean, this is a classic.
	This is the kind of film that people saw when they were kids on television, you know, cut down for TV, you know, put into the TV box four by three or whatever it is.
	Look, it's a much better movie than you remember.
	A lot of these films, I think we get into adulthood and we kind of dismiss them as films from our childhood that are standards, that are standard classics, that we know so well we don't have to watch ever again.
	I would reconsider that with a lot of the films that we've watched on this show.
	But this one in particular, this is such a perfectly made film.
	There's a reason why this turned Steven Spielberg into a nobody director, into the most successful director maybe of all time.
	This was his first big theatrical release film.
	This film is perfection.
	I highly recommend everybody go back and watch Jaws.
	All right, before we do our grading, a couple of final things.
	The footage of the real shark, they actually had real shark footage interspersed, comes from two heroes of mine, Australians.
	It was the Taylor couple.
	It was Rod and Valerie Taylor.
	They're the people in the cage.
	That cage with the shark thrashing about was real footage off the shore of Australia.
	When you see this tail coming up out of the water, being stuck beside the cage, that's a real shark.
	That was filmed by the tailors.
	They also used a four foot nine midget stunt man in the cage for some of the footage to make it look as if the real shark was bigger.
	That was smart thinking.
	Oh, and money.
	We've got to talk about money.
	Originally budgeted about three and a half million, it cost nine million.
	He like exceeded the budget by a hundred percent and has grossed Hold on to your horses.
	From nine million has grossed four hundred and seventy six million.
	Not too shabby.
	All right, before our grades, we have a little background footage that Eric has pulled up for us.
	Let's end on a little background footage.
	Robert would basically humiliate Richard into taking a chance.
	For instance, Robert would say, I'll give you a hundred bucks if you climb to the top of the mast on the orc and jump off into the water.
	And then one day, he was coming down the gangplank, and he had a glass of bourbon in his hand.
	And he said, help me out with it, Richard.
	And I said, you want me to help you out?
	Yeah.
	Richard took the shot glass out of Robert's hand and threw it out the window.
	At which point, every drinker That was the shot heard around the world.
	It got ugly.
	It got ugly.
	Yeah, watch the making of it.
	There's like five making of movies out there.
	They're super fun, super enjoyable.
	It was a hard movie to make, but they had a lot of fun on Martha's Vineyard.
	All right, 10 barrels is the maximum.
	You grade on what a current audience would think of it.
	I grade it in the universe of all movies.
	I will say, however, to your point, a lot of things we look back at nostalgically and we think are great, we watch them as adults and we're disappointed.
	And we say, oh, this, Not.
	Not for a millisecond.
	You go back to this yesterday and I was hooked.
	So this is why it's a classic.
	But I don't want to influence your grade, Chris Coles.
	Go ahead.
	No, no.
	I'm the same.
	I set this movie up in the morning to watch.
	I forgot to watch it.
	So I ended up watching it from like 11 to 1 in the night.
	You know, and I thought I would fall asleep because I've seen it so many times.
	I literally thought I would fall asleep.
	I'm like, I'm so sleepy.
	I need to go to bed.
	And I it woke me up.
	This film woke me up.
	I'm just sitting there staring at the screen the whole time.
	Absolutely loved every second of it.
	Look, I don't care how old you are, this film is perfection.
	10 out of 10.
	10 barrels out of 10 barrels.
	You know what?
	This might be the first time ever.
	10 out of 10.
	10 out of 10.
	10 out of 10 in the universe.
	10 out of 10 for both of us.
	10 out of 10 for modern audiences.
	I mean, really, there's a reason.
	There's a reason why it is where it is.
	There's a reason it did what it did to Spielberg.
	And there's a reason why Marty McFly was watching Jaws 17 in Back to the Future.
	All right, so that's...
	That's, I think, our first double 10 there.
	So guys, go and watch Jaws this weekend.
	Maybe.
	We did a double 11 at one point.
	I think it was Star Wars.
	Oh, well, that's different.
	Double 11s.
	OK, you have to choose the next movie.
	We're on hiatus.
	I'm on vacation next week.
	So you'll have extra time to watch this movie.
	What will we be watching, Chris?
	I had a hard time this week because the film that I want to watch, I don't think is a great film.
	And Jaws is a great film.
	But I want to watch it anyway.
	This show is called Making Movies Great Again.
	Great.
	But I mean, okay, it's hard to match Jaws.
	Okay, what is it, Chris?
	There's a few films with the same actor that I was debating, and I'm sure we'll get to some of them, but I would like to see Uncle Buck.
	Uncle Buck?
	Have you never seen Uncle Buck?
	I have no idea what that is.
	Oh, you're gonna love it.
	Is that John Candy?
	What is that?
	It's John Candy.
	It's a fantastic movie.
	It's hilarious.
	It's brilliant.
	It's a touching film in some ways, but it's a very good movie.
	All right.
	Oh, Macaulay McCulkin.
	The fact that you've never seen Uncle Bud.
	Okay.
	We could change it.
	No, no, no.
	You are my co-host.
	We drive this ship together.
	We have one hand each on the steering wheel.
	So, no, I'm fine with that.
	Well, I was debating different candy films.
	There's Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, also brilliant.
	But yeah, Uncle Buck is sort of like in between the different films.
	It's a really great film.
	All right, we'll do that.
	I have a very heavy choice for the week after, so that's perfect.
	A little bit of comedy and a little bit of a heavy the week after.
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