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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: DOJ tries to stop Devon Archer's testimony

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	I'm old enough to talk on the phone.
	And I don't think President Biden needs to say anything more than he has.
	House Republicans are going to accuse him.
	They are.
	They're going to make the accusation.
	They're going to accuse him of all sorts of stuff.
	Perhaps whether they have the evidence or not.
	Correct.
	The question, and they may have an eco, an information ecosystem that helps amplify it.
	The Sanctus is gone.
	He's just about over.
	You know, it's funny, all of his big donors, he had a lot of big donors, and they were all... Oh, hello.
	President, I was just calling to say hello!
	I said, you mean you're just going to say that you've been looking...
	I'm not...
	I'm just saying.
	you you
	you Would you want to win?
	You you But the biggest complaint that I get
	is that the Republicans find out this information and then they do nothing
	about it They don't do anything about it!
	Right?
	Kelly knows, he knows.
	They do.
	And it all dies, you know?
	They die.
	The radical, lunatic Democrats, they impeach me, they indict me, they rig our elections, and the Republicans just don't fight the way they're good people, but they don't fight the way they're supposed to fight.
	The others are dirty, sick players, and the Republicans are very high class.
	They've got to be a little bit lower class, I suspect.
	That was here in Pennsylvania at the weekend.
	One of the biggest, biggest cheers for the president was his observation that what he hears all the time from you, the American people, is that we find corruption everywhere amongst the Democrats.
	Devin Archer has just left his testimony behind closed doors in Congress.
	And then the GOP, the so-called conservatives, the so-called patriots, do nothing.
	Let's open the show with no monologue because we have a very important guest who is the opposite of that.
	I think seven, eight years ago he decided to do something as a very young man and created perhaps the most influential organization for the salvation of our nation that we have today.
	It's Turning Point USA and he's its president, Charlie Kirk.
	Charlie, welcome back to America First.
	Dr. Gorka, you're very kind.
	Thank you.
	Honored to be here.
	It's just a statement of fact.
	If you're not supporting TPUSA.com, you should be.
	Charlie, you texted me earlier today with at least some good news.
	An article in The Hill that high schoolers, high school young men, are trending conservative.
	And this in The Hill, not exactly a conservative outlet.
	So give us the breakdown of this incredible new good news.
	Yeah, it's extraordinary.
	In fact, it shows that Gen Z young men are far more conservative than millennials were at the same time.
	And in fact, it's the most conservative that high school seniors have been.
	Young, male high school seniors have been since the Reagan era, Dr. Gorka.
	So what's going on here?
	I do want to take a little bit of a victory lap at Turning Point USA.
	We're the only organization on the right with a high school program.
	We spend a lot of money, time, attention.
	We're hiring 50 new people this week, actually, just on this project.
	We have over a thousand high school chapters, but it's not just us.
	It's other great communicators like Matt Walsh and Shapiro that have been doing content that have been very persuasive to this demographic.
	But also, it's something bigger than all of us.
	It's the trend, which is the entire society right now is against men.
	And you have your masculinity hour, Dr. Gorka, that I love listening to.
	You do a great job.
	And young men, if you're a straight, Christian, white male, the whole world basically says you're awful.
	And for a portion of young men, they say, I'm gonna go look for anything, content, podcasts.
	Movements like Turning Point USA that speak to me that say you're not awful just because of who you are or how you look and the society has become hyper feminine.
	The bad news of this poll, Dr. Gorka, is that young ladies are more liberal than they were 10 or 20 years ago.
	But it's actually upsets because the young men are not just a little conservative, they are vocally and outspokenly conservative, which is really throwing a little bit of a glitch.
	This is the second question I had, because you look at the indoctrination amongst those who support trans and everything else and open borders, it's yay deep, it's incredibly superficial.
	As soon as you ask them a question, and you've demonstrated this on campuses everywhere, they collapse.
	My question is, is this trend line significant, or is it just young men are being cool because it's now cool to be conservative?
	It sounds like it's deeper than just a coolness factor.
	Well, it's deeper because here's what we find is in the trajectory, once someone is conservative, they don't really go back.
	I mean, there might be some outliers here or there, but the trend is our friend.
	So the earlier you can get somebody to be a conservative, there's an attachment there that doesn't die.
	As you well know, Dr. Gorka, they get married, they have kids, they hopefully buy property that they get in the workforce.
	So if they're conservative, a high school senior This is going to be an unbelievably conservative generation.
	Wait till we get to really dive into them when they're in college and they get into the workforce.
	So what I'm saying is that if the starting point now is young men are as conservative as they have been since 1980, the most conservative, whoa, that's a 40-year high.
	More conservative than they were in the 90s during the Bush era.
	In fact, if you look at the Obama era, young women and young men were as conservative, as liberal, That's unbelievable.
	And now it's almost a 20 point difference.
	And so, of course, there's work left to be done.
	This is significant.
	It's profound.
	And as these young men grow up and they become the leaders of our society, they're going to have conservative positions.
	And this is, Dr. Gorka, you said it best.
	What's so amazing about this is the educational institutions, social media are demanding that they're liberal and they're fighting the trend.
	That's what's so incredible here, is that this is with all the indoctrination.
	So you're talking to millions of people right now.
	You have an amazing podcast.
	I'm honored to be on the Slater Network with you.
	What is your message to everyone listening now who's a parent, an uncle, a grandparent?
	Yes, they have to support Turning Point, but what do they have to do, Charlie?
	Well, first and foremost, there's hope.
	And I think the article was actually really beautifully written in The Hill, which is exactly...
	It's not Breitbart.com, right?
	Where they say that there is this assumption that Gen Z is the most progressive generation ever, and they say not so fast.
	It actually isn't.
	And I lived through this with millennials.
	When I first started Turning Point USA, there was this assumption that millennials were going to be the most progressive generation in history.
	And it turns out that millennials are now 50-50.
	They're about three points in the global direction, but they've moved like 25-30 points over the last decade, and I think Turning Point USA has had a lot to do with it.
	So there's hope.
	That's number one.
	Number two, which is there's work to do with young ladies, right?
	There's a lot of work to do there because that's the part of the pole that is not as promising, but that can move over time.
	But understand that this is a much better starting point than where we were even five or ten years ago.
	Why is there...
	Sorry, why is there that discrepancy with the females, in your opinion?
	Well, I think that progressivism plays to the emotionalism that young ladies largely have, both temperamentally and politically.
	God made us different.
	Young ladies probably are less likely to want to say no to open borders or trans surgery because they look at it as being compassion.
	and long-suffering and kind where young men are more likely to say no actually there's limitations and you know we maybe should have closed borders and it's not a good idea to chemically castrate 16-year-olds and then the abortion issue probably largely resonates with a lot of young women so there's work to do there and also just if you look at it's so culturally it's like almost culturally mandated that young ladies are on the left now I'll tell you There is a buried lead.
	We have the largest Young Women's Leadership Summit.
	We've been doing it for seven years.
	We have 2,700 young women that do not believe in this trash of the kind of progressive leftism, and they're making differences in their communities.
	But it is definitely harder for them.
	There's a great part of the article at TheHill.com that says, the future of the conservative movement is men, the future of the liberal movement is women.
	I can tell you, if we can move women a little bit over the next 5 or 10 years, which will be a top priority at Turning Point USA, we can look at a generation that by the time they're 25, 26, 27 is a majority conservative Dr. Gorka, that would throw such a wrench in the progressive Marxist plans.
	This is the best news I have to share with your audience.
	And this goes to couple, by the way, with New York Times, Politico, and Gallup in the last 90 days, all with similar articles saying, hey, just so you know, this millennial demo, they're not exactly automatically the left anymore.
	50-50, up for grabs in the middle.
	So they're losing core constituencies.
	And I got to tell you, this is a reason for hope and for action.
	I hope your audience is receptive of that.
	And understands that Generation Z, not all hope is lost.
	Incredible news.
	It's what we've been waiting for.
	Positive news.
	You fight, you fight, you fight for seven years and these are the results you get.
	But it's because of people like you who are listening, supporting Charlie and his amazing team.
	It's TPUSA.com.
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	I want to ask you one quick question in the break.
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	SEBGORKASTORE.COM One social media question because I've been scratching my
	head on this the whole morning.
	Are we on the stream?
	We are.
	We're on the Rumble stream.
	I see a little Rumble award behind you.
	Cool.
	Explain this to me.
	I like Twitter.
	Not so much Facebook.
	Instagram, I'm on there.
	I posted the headline.
	You can put it up.
	Have you got Eric?
	You put the Daily Mail headline.
	I posted this headline of Bill Barr.
	And I just said, he says, if President Trump is the nominee, I'll jump off a bridge.
	I saw what you wrote, yes.
	And I just said the word, please.
	And I get, if I have a good post, I'll get maybe 500 comments.
	This got 9,000.
	You're the social media expert.
	What the hell happened there?
	Is it just a glitch in the algorithm?
	Is that, which platform is this?
	Instagram.
	That's what shocked me.
	No, it's not a glitch.
	It's that you push the boundaries.
	That's why.
	I mean, it's incredibly engaging.
	But it's not even a video.
	Doesn't matter.
	It's, I mean, that's a pretty spicy thing to say.
	That's why I performed.
	I just, it's just like, if you know, the average thing is 30 comments.
	A good one is a thousand, but 9,000?
	It's an outlier because it's you, you, you put you, cause you, you pushed the, The idea of what is acceptable.
	Got it.
	In a way that worked.
	That's why.
	And on Twitter, I noticed you deliberately stick to just text and very rarely do images.
	Images don't perform as well.
	They never have.
	Videos can.
	But if you do images, unless it's something super viral, people are not going to retweet it as naturally.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	All right.
	I knew it was worth asking.
	Do you know anything about that author who did the piece in the hill?
	Uh, no, I know nothing about them.
	I don't recognize the name.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	So thanks, Dr. G. Thanks.
	Bye-bye.
	Two minutes.
	Want to include that little rumble segment in the video?
	Or was that just for rumble?
	Uh, yeah, include it.
	Okay.
	Okay, yep.
	I think he's right about when it comes to like, why a single image on Instagram
	I mean, that's A, that's the purpose of Instagram, but B, that also explains why memes have always done so well.
	Yeah, but it's, you know, it's... And, yeah, do you remember when they said they were gonna ban single images?
	Oh, I forgot about that.
	Yeah.
	Oh, boy.
	I guess they left that out.
	I mean, if Instagram were to do that, that'd be completely destroying the whole purpose of Instagram in the first place.
	Food for the poor.
	Play the audio again.
	As I said, he wants to ask them to... Come in with that and I'll explain it.
	Alright, real quick.
	What's the text number for Food for the Poor again?
	The text number is Gorka to... 8199?
	81999.
	999, got it.
	Okay, thank you.
	50 seconds, we have him on the line.
	Alright, Mr. Bosker, greetings!
	Oh, how are you?
	Good, good, good, good.
	Did you have a chance to read the piece?
	I did, just a little bit ago.
	Yeah, it was great, thank you.
	Okay, good, good.
	Time to take the gloves off.
	It's time.
	When you take your gloves off, do you then use your fingers to eat chocolate pudding?
	Have you seen the latest one of him drinking beer and then he rubs his nose like this?
	Did you see that?
	Or I'll send it to you.
	It is so creepy.
	All right.
	I'm going to use one of the DJ tea cuts here with Chris.
	Oh, I'll use cut 18, but I'll tee it up.
	Cut 18, you'll tee it up.
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	All right, he was in Pennsylvania.
	He was in Iowa just before that.
	Then he went to Pennsylvania.
	Barnstormer of a speech.
	We're going to dissect it with our good buddy.
	He is the Editor-in-chief, the founder of American Greatness.
	You have got to bookmark it today.
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	Chris Buskirk.
	Happy Monday.
	Happy Monday to you, too.
	Things are looking up.
	All right, well, we've got lots of cuts from my former boss.
	One of them has to do with the race, which is shocking because we had Vivek on for an hour on the show last week.
	After he came on the show, he shot to number two, which there may be some causal connection there.
	But why is he beating the governor of Florida?
	President Trump had a take.
	Let's listen.
	Cut 18.
	Oh, hello.
	President, I was just calling to say hello.
	I said, you mean you're just going to say that you've been looking at the recent poll numbers?
	They're not stupid.
	They see what's happening.
	So he's lost all of it.
	I think he's lost every high roller.
	And they said, what's his problem?
	I said, he's got no personality.
	I could have told you that a long time ago.
	A politician needs a little personality.
	But I think he's over.
	Yeah, I think clearly there's a personality deficit issue, but I think there's something else.
	You have been doing some amazing polling.
	Let me give you my theory, then you tell me, Chris, what I'm missing.
	It just came to me today, I was thinking, if you say you're a conservative and you love America...
	Rule number one as a nominee, you shouldn't attack President Trump because he's proven what he's done for America.
	You should be like Vivek, who should be pro-America, without attacking the former president.
	Isn't it that obvious?
	And why don't they get it at Team DeSantis?
	I have rarely seen a more politically tone-deaf campaign, especially at a national level, than the DeSantis campaign, which even for people who are supporters of President Trump, if you roll back the tape maybe, I don't know, seven, eight, nine months ago or something, There's a lot of pro-Trump people in Florida, for example.
	They backed him to the hilt on his re-election campaign for governor.
	He's been a decent governor.
	People have some affection for him.
	And yet, he just doesn't seem to get the basic politics that are going on in the country at large, let alone of his own party.
	And it shows.
	I mean, this is a campaign you would not even know is being run.
	And what about the fact that it seems as if the people he's hiring, or who are acting indirectly on his behalf, to carry his water on social media.
	It's not forward-looking, you know, we have to take what President Trump did and then take it to the next level.
	It's actually kind of, at times, psychotic, demented, vituperative attacks on not only the president, but anybody associated with him.
	How do these people, again, you said tone-deaf, this is like tone-deaf and dumb.
	Yeah, I've thought a ton about this lately, as I know you have and other people have in our movement.
	And here's the way I think I've come to understand what the DeSantis campaign is versus what it's supposed to be.
	It's supposed to be a campaign for the Republican nomination for president of the United States run by a successful governor from a very large And that was like, that's the original thesis.
	That's the common sense thesis of what is going on here.
	What I think is actually going on here is that the, is that the DeSantis campaign has become a vessel
	for the grievances of people who either are dissatisfied with or outright dislike Donald Trump.
	And the, and the idea of actually having DeSantis win, that's like a secondary concern for them.
	This is the problem we've had in this party since 2015 is that there's a reaction by certain people
	against Donald Trump, but not for something else.
	And that's why so far, Governor DeSantis has not articulated a positive vision for the future,
	more, more a critique of President Trump.
	And it just isn't, it's just not gonna work.
	That's fascinating.
	If I can dumb down your very astute political analysis, this is the party or the nominee for the ex-girlfriends, right?
	That's very funny, yeah.
	Right?
	So they're jilted, they're pissed off, so the ex-girlfriends are coming together and that's the only message they've got.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, you brought up Vivek.
	I mean, Vivek is such an interesting candidate.
	He's not going to win, but he is very respectful of President Trump and of his role in the party.
	I know everybody who asks me says, what is Vivek doing?
	What is he running?
	He's like, he's running such a friendly campaign towards President Trump.
	Look, Vivek is a very accomplished, very smart guy.
	And I suspect that he is pretty well aware of the fact that he is, shall we say, unlikely to become the nominee.
	And that there's something else going on here.
	And what I think it is, he probably wants to work with slash for President Trump in some capacity in the future.
	And he wants to preserve his and really create a path forward for himself in a future iteration of the Republican Party.
	And he's been, honestly, the energy behind this guy is pretty remarkable.
	I mean, like, just his personal Energy, you know, you never see him out there.
	I mean, Vivek is every place.
	No, he's all over the place.
	It's more than just the vituperation.
	It's also the people standing behind the campaign.
	This is President Trump again in the area talking about the funders for the governor of Florida.
	There's cut 17.
	Play cut.
	You know, it's funny, all of his big donors, he had a lot of big donors.
	And they were all maybe sort of... They don't love me because I'm very much anti-business with China.
	I'm a... You know what?
	I'm a person that puts America first.
	These people want to put the globe first, right?
	So they don't love me.
	But...
	But I read stories where, you know, these big rich guys, they're all guys that I know very well, and they're sort of leaning toward him, and they're going with him, and, you know, this is like six months here.
	They're gonna go with him.
	I think they're gonna go with him.
	Because he's a globalist, basically, right?
	He's a Paul Ryan disciple.
	Anybody a Paul Ryan disciple, you don't want him, believe me.
	Guy's a loser.
	The big money is turning the tide.
	They are giving phone calls, now making phone calls to President Trump.
	We'll continue the discussion.
	Follow him right now on Twitter at the Chris Buskirk.
	And make sure you bookmark amgreatness.com, founder and editor-in-chief Chris Buskirk.
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	SebastianGawker.Substack.com Cut four.
	Playback one, go ahead.
	I want voters to listen to this.
	It is most likely that by the time we get on the debate stage on August 23rd, the frontrunner will be out on bail in four different jurisdictions.
	Florida, Washington, Georgia, and New York.
	Out on bail.
	And then, uh, cut eight.
	Eight.
	What are you hearing in Iowa?
	You were there at the Lincoln Day dinner with all the candidates out there.
	Trump seemed to get a warm reception, at least from what we saw.
	What were you hearing from Republicans?
	Well, Trump got a warm reception, but it was without a doubt, and I think anybody in that room would tell you, it was the worst speech.
	It was the worst 10 minutes.
	He came out.
	He read from a binder.
	He didn't look up.
	He didn't smile.
	It was an absolutely dead speech.
	And this is not the Donald Trump of 2016.
	Don't fool yourself.
	And as more and more folks realize that, he doesn't have the energy.
	He doesn't have the fastball.
	He basically is droning on for 90 minutes on his long-form speeches about his legal battles.
	So I've got to ask you, Chris, You listen to Chris Christie, you listen to Sununu, and they seem to have an absolute inability to see themselves from the outside.
	I mean, to Chris Christie's point about, you know, being out on bail, yeah, and every time they charge him, he actually goes up in the polls.
	And to Sununu's point, everything he says is, well, yeah, I'm the rhino establishment, listen to me, because I'm the establishment.
	Have you ever seen the likes of people who just have no external eyeball?
	Yeah, well, those were two great examples of it, but this is what's been going on in our party for eight years.
	I mean, this is the exact same thing.
	I mean, it's Groundhog Day with these guys.
	Since 2015, it's the exact same thing.
	And the thing that struck me about both of those clips is the forum.
	Chris Christie was being interviewed where?
	CNN.
	Sununu was being interviewed where?
	ABC News.
	You don't see them talking on a forum where they're talking to Republicans.
	They're talking to anti-Trump establishment or legacy media figures.
	Why?
	Because that's the audience that they attract.
	That is where they're most comfortable.
	Yeah, that's the most important thing.
	All right, let's talk about the Bidens.
	Let's talk about Hunter and Archer.
	What do we have that's a good cut that's relevant for that?
	Oh, we'll use Nancy Mace.
	I'll tee up cut five.
	Five, all right.
	I'll come in, I'll do my pillow, then I'll tee up Nancy Mace.
	Okay, got titles in mind, by the way.
	For Charlie.
	Charlie.
	Also for Andrew and VEH.
	Conservatives.
	High school conservatives are, no, high schoolers are going conservative.
	No, big news, colon, high schoolers are going conservative.
	And then for Andrew, what should we focus on?
	Either the trans stuff or maybe Hollywood in general.
	Yeah.
	Yes, Hollywood is on the side of the pedophiles.
	All right.
	30.
	Don't we have a title for VDH?
	Uh, I wasn't here on Friday, so... Oh, that's right.
	Yeah, I was missing.
	Lendrum took a day off.
	Can you imagine Fousekirk?
	I gave him a day off.
	Lendrum got a day off.
	Yeah, I can't recommend that.
	No, not good.
	Thanks, Chris.
	15 seconds.
	Standby.
	Pillow at the top.
	Yep.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
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	He is Chris Busker.
	Chris, you know social media.
	You're a media mogul.
	I gotta get your take on something before I play you a cut from Nancy Mace.
	I tweeted out and I posted on Instagram just the front cover of a story from the Daily Mail about Bill Barr, and I need somebody to explain it to me, okay?
	It's the story that says Bill Barr says he'll jump off a bridge if Donald Trump is the nominee.
	And I said, please, and I got 9,000 comments.
	On a good day, I'll get 500 or 1,000.
	9,000 just for encouraging Bill Barr to keep his promise.
	What does that say to you?
	Why does that happen?
	Is it because people have had enough?
	This goes back to what we were talking about.
	This is like 2015, 2016, 2017.
	These guys cannot control themselves with this sort of just vituperation against President Trump.
	And I do salute you, by the way, in backing him and living his truth.
	And if he wants to jump off a bridge next summer, we should back him to the belt.
	As one of my followers said, and I'm going to steal it.
	You know who you are, TF.
	I'll pay for the Uber.
	We will all pay for the Uber, okay, Bart?
	We will pay for the Uber to the bridge.
	You can pick the bridge.
	All right, let's continue the analysis.
	And Nancy Mace, who goes hot and cold, you know, she doesn't like President Trump, but she's good on attacking the deep state on some days.
	She said this about the idea of impeaching probably the most corrupt president in modern history.
	Cut five.
	Well, I do believe we are at this point.
	An inquiry is different from an impeachment vote and is another tool in the toolbox.
	But I will tell you, every time we walk the plank, we are putting moderate members, members that won Biden, won districts, we are putting those seats at risk for 2024.
	We are putting the majority at risk.
	And it's not just impeachment that does that.
	Other issues like abortion, etc.
	also put those members on the plank.
	So Chris, impeaching a corrupt president is bad for the rhinos?
	That's your argument?
	I think this is, like, here's the political issue where I have some sympathy for Nancy Mace's.
	We want to pick battles that we can win.
	And should Biden be impeached and convicted?
	Yeah, I think that's pretty clear.
	But we have a razor-thin majority.
	We know the Senate's not going to move on this.
	They're not going to.
	They maybe wouldn't even take it up.
	Who knows?
	And so I guess the political question is, what is it we're trying to achieve and how best do we achieve it?
	There's two questions, right?
	There's a justice question, and on that, the impeachment is just.
	There's a practical political question, which is, do you want to pick Fights where you basically know up front you're going to lose it.
	I don't think anyone thinks that there would be a conviction in the Senate.
	But what about this suggestion?
	I think, I don't know who it was, I think it was maybe Kash Patel said it on the show last week.
	Impeach him, send it to the Senate, force a vote, and then at least our Senators have to say yay or nay and you get them on the record for good.
	So you get the real rhinos on the record.
	Is that not of any utility?
	It might be.
	It really might be.
	I guess what I'm cautioning against, and I don't really have a strong position on this issue yet one way or the other, I guess what I'm saying is we need to be really clear that there's a plan.
	Whether it be a plan to convict, which obviously I don't think that's happening, or whether there be a political plan that says, OK, we're moving the ball forward so that we think that we can get X, Y, and Z and really make those goals concrete and then say here's how we're going to
	go from point A to point B.
	Like that's something that people could bet we could get behind. What we don't want to do
	is get into one of these like sort of very public squabbles internally in the party where we
	undercut our own side even when we're trying to do the right thing I think for the right motivations.
	Like let's like you know there's famously a friend of mine likes to say there's like there's the
	stupid party and the evil party.
	The Democrats are the evil party.
	Let's try not to be the stupid party.
	Like, let's think this through and make sure that we've got a plan that gets us, uh, gets our ball further in the field.
	That's a perfect segue.
	I don't know if he planned it.
	Do we have a plan?
	I've written a plan for the second Trump administration.
	Day one, the first 24 hours.
	And it, it may be appearing on some site called American greatness.
	Check it out, amgreatness.com, amgreatness.com.
	It's going to be up there imminently.
	And follow our good friend Chris at The Chris Buskirk.
	He is the author of America and the Art of the Possible.
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	♪♪♪ Good bye sir!
	Thanks.
	Good, good, good, good.
	Can you explain for us?
	Hang on a second.
	You're not in my ear.
	Something happened here.
	Are you getting an echo when I'm talking?
	No, we're fine.
	No echo.
	OK, good.
	If we can't fix it, I won't panic it.
	But you can hear me all right?
	I can, yes.
	Okay, good.
	Let's talk about Devon Archer and why he matters.
	Can we do that?
	Absolutely.
	You saw the story I just moved, right?
	Yes, yes.
	Can you play cut 14 for me?
	Yep.
	I have seven grandkids, four of them, five of them old enough to talk on the phone.
	You know, every day I either text them or call them.
	We'll do it this way.
	No problem.
	It's not picking up the black magic, that's all.
	you But I can hear him this way, it's fine.
	Oh god, title for Chris.
	Chris, what happened to the DeSantis campaign?
	And then for VDH... Alex, you edited it.
	What jumped out at you?
	Say that again?
	VDH.
	What would be a good title or topic?
	I like the recommendations at the end with the education stuff.
	Talking about his book, Homer.
	Oh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.
	Fifty.
	Oh, hang on, it was The Man Who Died, right?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Trump, General Patton, Trump, comma, General Patton, comma, and Ajax.
	And Ajax.
	All righty, 30 seconds.
	Want to come in with something?
	What are we doing here?
	Oh yeah, come in with Cal-14.
	Coming in with 14, no liner.
	I'm going to go with the liner.
	I hope you enjoyed this.
	I'll see you next time.
	I I have seven grandkids, four of them old, five of them old enough to talk on the phone, you know, every day.
	Bye.
	I either text them or call them.
	Seven?
	Hang on, what happened?
	I thought it was five or six and now it's seven.
	Fascinating.
	They have finally actually acknowledged their illegitimate grandchild, Navy Roberts, sired by Hunter Biden and a certain lady of negotiable affection.
	Why did that happen?
	Is the heat coming to the Bidens after the events in Wilmington?
	We shall discuss with our next guest.
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	I literally can't think of a better guest to discuss the breaking news of Devin Archer leaving Congress just moments ago.
	A desperate spin already from the Democrats.
	Let's ask John Solomon.
	John, welcome.
	Happy Monday.
	Happy Monday.
	Good to be with you.
	So first things first, why is Devin Archer such an important witness?
	He was the man that got Hunter Biden on the Burisma board.
	He was a man who sat between Joe Biden and Hunter Biden on some of these early business deals.
	He was the closest business associate of Hunter Biden between 2013 and 2016, when the most controversial of the deals occurred.
	Romania, Russia, Ukraine, and China.
	And today, he took on some of the biggest questions that have been lofted at this scandal thus far, and he confirmed that Joe Biden got on and talked to Hunter Biden's business partners more than 20 times.
	He met with them at Capitol Mall.
	Hang on, let's just repeat that for the record.
	A witness, closed-door testimony, Congress.
	Hunter Biden's father, Joe Biden, who said he's never even discussed his son's business arrangements, got on the phone with Hunter Biden's foreign business partners.
	That's what Archer testified.
	Yeah, and then there's something far more important because it goes to the heart of that FT1023 FBI informant report that Chuck Grassley and James Comer made public recently.
	Remember, there's an allegation that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden were being paid to get rid of Viktor Shokin, the Ukrainian prosecutor general who was investigating Burisma for corruption.
	Devin Archer gave very specific testimony that in December 2015, just a few days before Joe Biden went to Ukraine and pressured to get rid of that Ukrainian prosecutor, get that prosecutor fired, that Hunter Biden was being pressured by Burisma to deal with Viktor Shokin, to take care of the problem, to get him off the plate of Burisma, who was very upset that he was continuing to investigate that Ukrainian gas firm.
	The idea that Hunter was being pressured just before his father took the very action that would benefit Verismo is really essential evidence.
	And by the way, it matches what the informant report was quoting Nikola Zolchevsky as saying.
	It's also very important to note, much like Joe Biden saying, I never had anything to do with my son's business.
	We now know that wasn't true.
	I never met with his business partners.
	We know that's not true.
	During the impeachment of Donald Trump in 2019 and for every day since, all the way through the election to today, it has been reported that Joe Biden did not take any action that benefited his son's company, that the decision to fire Viktor Shokin had nothing to do with Mikhail Zochevsky or Burisma.
	That today, Hunter Biden's former business partner, Devin Archer, who also was on the board of Brisbane with Hunter, calls that into question.
	And I promise you, by the latest edit of this week, some new documents I'm going to put out from the State Department are going to further erode that story that we've all been force-fed since 2019, when Donald Trump's first impeachment occurred.
	Well, I can't wait for that.
	Whenever you come on the show, you promise amazing, amazing stories, and you always follow through on that.
	Why do we suppose he's prepared to do this now?
	Because this is not a good actor.
	This is an individual who has to serve at least a year and one day in prison for bilking, for conning a Native American tribe.
	So why is he suddenly dishing the dirt on his former business partners?
	I don't think he did it willingly.
	I think Congress came to it, but I think he saw it as an opportunity to tell his story on his terms.
	Everything has been told through other people's lens, right?
	The Joe Biden White House has dominated this story for years.
	Democrats have tried to come up with a story that clearly is not true.
	He wanted the American public to know before he goes to prison what really happened, and he provided the exact times and dates.
	Names and places so that people can understand.
	It's a little nuance.
	Joe Biden doesn't get on the phone and say, hey, tell me what you need to do with this client.
	He gets on the phone to, as Devin Archer told the case, to sell the brand.
	The Biden brand can fix any problem when you hire my son.
	So he reinforces the brand, and then Hunter goes and does the dirty work.
	And we don't know what goes on between Hunter and Joe Biden yet, but I suspect we may begin to learn that now that Congress has this new roadmap from Devin Archer.
	But I am 100% confident he simply wanted people to hear his side of the story.
	He's been the mystery partner in all these deals.
	He's watched everybody else write about him.
	Now he gets to tell the story on his own terms.
	And in doing so, he helps the Congress a lot.
	This was a major step forward in their investigation of Hunter and Joe Biden.
	And the fact that yesterday, or Saturday, Saturday night, the Department of Justice
	seemingly wanted to have Hunter Archer, Devon Archer, report for that prison time to be locked away
	prior to his testifying.
	Is that an indication of desperation on behalf of the Deep State?
	Yeah, well, listen, the optics are unmistakable.
	They were sending a message to Devin Archer, if you're free enough on Monday to testify, you're free enough to begin that prison sentence that you've kind of been ducking since 2018.
	I want to be fair to the Justice Department, though.
	The letter never said they wanted to round him up before the testimony.
	All it did is ask the judge to set a sentencing date soon so he could begin That's all you need to know.
	The Department of Justice sending a letter to a judge on Saturday afternoon.
	The Justice Department never works on a Saturday afternoon.
	It was clearly designed to send a message.
	That's all you need to know.
	The Department of Justice sending a letter to a judge on Saturday afternoon.
	You know what it's really about.
	You can't make it up.
	No, you can't.
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	We've got another super chat here on Rumble.
	The Klausmeister for $5 who simply says in all capital letters, it's not Carl, it's Klaus.
	Laughing emoji.
	Is that what I said?
	Did I say Carl?
	I think so, yeah.
	Klaus!
	It is Klaus!
	Yeah, you said Carl.
	Oh, Klaus from California.
	That's right.
	He's called in.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The record must be corrected.
	90 seconds.
	for that one.
	Um... Why Devon Archer's... Why Devon Archer matters.
	Uh, yeah.
	Why Devon Archer matters.
	Uh, play me cut 13- Oh no, we don't have enough time.
	Don't play me anything, Eric!
	Oh, right.
	Don't!
	I understand.
	That's a unique order for once.
	Cut 7.
	Coming to cut 7, no liner.
	I saw Oppenheimer this weekend, actually.
	Don't!
	No spoilers!
	No, no spoilers!
	Does he build a bomb?
	Don't tell me.
	Don't tell me.
	We're gonna see it tonight.
	So good.
	I think it was well worth the price of admission.
	♪♪♪ I think climate change is real.
	I think that we do have to focus on it.
	We all want an environment that has clean air, clean water to leave for our kids and our grandkids.
	Nikki Haley, why did you do that?
	Are you like a climate change activist now?
	It makes no sense!
	Okay, apologies are in order.
	I said it twice wrong.
	It's not Carl, it's Klaus who invented or designed our new t-shirt.
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	Also, apologies to that lady who came up to me at an event this weekend.
	Said, well, is that book why we fight any good?
	My response was not gallant to her.
	I thought she was taking the mickey.
	And I apologize.
	It was unseemly of me.
	You were being, I don't know, jocular.
	And I should have reacted better.
	So there's a public mea culpa for you.
	Let's go to your cause.
	Judy Brooklyn, line three.
	All three of your books are great, not just one.
	She asked me, is it a good book, and I didn't react well, but that's just me.
	No, no, no, tell her it's not a good, it's a great book, idiot.
	Alright, question, comment, what's up with you, Judy?
	Okay, okay.
	I've got a few things, a few things.
	Number one, number one, I've got for Dolly Cork some concerns.
	I wonder, maybe if you get the females to, like, be compassionate about the Democrats with the infanticide murders, plus the unfairness for the transgender men competing with biological women, maybe you could, like, you know, concentrate a little and get these women to a little bit more compassionate in that area to win them over.
	But I also want to say, how about we take our commander-in-thief And court-martial him for treason, because that's what he deserves.
	Yeah, because we can't do that because we don't control the Department of Justice.
	We can't, you know, Judy from Brooklyn can't go and arrest him.
	But I really do like Commander in Thief.
	That's excellent, Judy.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's reward one of our most loyal listeners with a, hey, groomers, leave our kids alone.
	And somebody else who's been with us from the get-go is Brent in Los Angeles.
	Hey, Brent.
	Courageous child paladin Gorka!
	Oh, I do like the word paladin.
	Give us your best, your poet laureate for the show contribution today.
	Well, I wanted to first say, with your media and political connections, you risk your life each day you dare to stand and defend America's blessed children from the devil's Democrats who detest children.
	And I have so much love, compassion, respect, and awe for our beautiful, brave, and angelic Chloe Cole, who last week testified before Congress as a victim of the monstrous transmedical community.
	And she takes my breath away, and every time she speaks, I cry.
	And for her and the protection of all God's children, it is past time we dismantle and destroy the American Psychiatric Association and American Medical Association.
	All doctors and nurses who now refuse to identify and condemn mutilating monsters steering lost children to suicide must themselves be identified and documented as criminal co-conspirators They're not doctors and God bless, yes, Chloe Coles.
	Thank you, Brent.
	Next up, our two Kurt Schlichter and then Victor Davis Hanson!
	And stay on this channel.
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	you But now the Biden administration is trying to make it illegal to even question the results or the outcome of an election.
	If you question the rigged election, you're a conspiracy theorist.
	They don't want to talk about it because they cheated like nobody's ever cheated.
	But only a party that cheats in elections would try to make it illegal to question them.
	They don't want them questioned.
	I think we need to take that cut.
	Greetings, dear friends.
	And, Jeff, will you get on to our social media guru?
	And let's have that clip of President Trump saying you're not allowed to question the results of an election with the clips of, who was it?
	It was, who questioned the results of 2016?
	It was Hillary.
	It was every Democrat, right?
	Yes, Maxine Waters did it, they all did it.
	Schumer, let's have that clip that you're not allowed to question an election if you're a Republican, and then let's close it together with all the other Democrats, because that's really it.
	In a democracy, if you have issues with an election, what, you're not allowed to question it?
	A guest of mine questioned it on this show.
	And as a result, our YouTube channel was cancelled, despite the fact that we made the video a private video that the public couldn't see.
	Only we could see it here at the show, or the engineers in the back office at YouTube.
	So what did they do?
	They went into a private video and used that as the excuse to destroy that channel and completely delete it.
	That shouldn't be happening in a democracy, a republic.
	It shouldn't be happening in any nation where freedom of speech is the right of the citizens.
	You don't want to miss the third hour of the show today.
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	Let's continue with the president.
	He had quite a lot to say about the man who's now slipped to third place in the running
	for the nomination for the presidency from the Republican side.
	This is President Trump in Erie, Pennsylvania this weekend.
	Cut 16.
	The Sanctus is gone.
	He's just about over.
	I think if he ever made a comeback, it would be the greatest comeback in political history.
	He's gone.
	I endorsed him.
	He was gone before I endorsed him.
	I endorsed him.
	You know that, right?
	I endorsed him.
	I said, all right.
	He came in crying, please, please, you'll do it.
	I said, you couldn't get, you're so far behind, you couldn't win.
	If George Washington and Abraham Lincoln came back from the dead, you couldn't win.
	No, no.
	Sir, if you endorse me, I'll win.
	I'll win.
	So, you know, he worked on the Impeachment Hoax No.
	1 and Impeachment Hoax No.
	2.
	Two of the many hoaxes that I had to go through.
	But he was just one of many, many guys.
	These guys worked much harder.
	Kelly, Muser.
	They worked much, much harder.
	Much harder.
	You guys worked much harder.
	But he did a little bit that I didn't know the man he was running against.
	His name's Adam Putnam.
	Good man.
	Although I heard he was a rhino, so I feel a little bit better.
	Excellent.
	But I didn't know him.
	So I said, let's give it a shot, Ron.
	And he's down so much, like 30, 40 points.
	In one night, he is leading by a lot.
	And we had him get past a guy named Pullum, who was at the time the hottest guy in the Democrat Party.
	Stacey Abrams being the female version.
	Stacey Abrams and Pullum.
	These were the two hottest politicians in the Democrat party and Ron said, I don't think I'll be able to beat him.
	I said, Ron, we'll do a couple of rallies.
	We did three rallies.
	They were massive.
	I said, Ron, you're going to win.
	I don't think so.
	He ends up winning.
	Then three years later, they said, will you run against the president?
	Will you run against the president?
	He says, I have no comment.
	I said, that means he's running.
	This son of a bitch is running against me.
	I got him elected.
	He's running.
	That speech is what, what was it, Jeff?
	It was Sununu who called that low energy, right?
	No fastballs, right?
	Yeah, he's lost a fastball.
	He just spends 90 minutes rambling on, he said.
	Eric, I've got to ask you, as somebody who follows this stuff so closely and writes for the great American Greatness website, what happens now if Vivek really climbs to number two?
	Does DeSantis fire the other half of his staff?
	What's the future of that campaign?
	I mean, seriously, I know whose side you're on, but what's the future of the Floridian governor's campaign?
	I think of what a sane, sensible, self-aware person would do, and I think about the exact opposite.
	DeSantis clearly is drowning in his own ambitions right now, and will not admit it is over until, even after the fat lady sings, he's gonna keep going.
	So I think even after he loses Iowa, New Hampshire, I think he does not drop out, he doesn't fire people.
	So he gets up on the stage when he's sunk to like 9% or something?
	Yeah, he will not drop out until the day he loses the Florida primary to Trump.
	That's fascinating, which right now looks to be the case.
	I mean, in Florida, President Trump is just crushing dissenters.
	All right, we shall see.
	We'll hold you to that prediction.
	We have so many guests coming up.
	Let's go to your cause.
	It's squeezing people who've been waiting very patiently.
	Let's go to Gail in California, who's got an idea.
	Oh, hi, Sebastian.
	I love your show.
	Thank you.
	And I first heard about the Sound of Freedom on your show.
	And then a couple friends stopped me after church and told me about it.
	And I said, I want to go see it.
	And one friend said, I'll go with you.
	Couldn't stop thinking of the movie afterwards.
	Totally speechless.
	But I was wondering, would you make a t-shirt that says, God's children are not for sale?
	I love that.
	I think I've seen that phrase a lot.
	As long as that's not copyrighted.
	God's children.
	Are not for sale.
	Yeah, from the movie.
	Jeff, will you ask Rudy, Randy, our merchant guy, if he can check if there's any copyright on that?
	Because I love that.
	Gail, stay in the line.
	That's beautifully put.
	Let's give Gail a Hey Groomers, Leave Our Kids Alone t-shirt.
	But I think I think that has to be done.
	God's children are not for sale.
	I love it.
	If you want one of the Hey Groomers, Leave Our Kids Alone t-shirts, it's the latest one.
	It's designed by Klaus, not Carl.
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	Let's go to Louisville, Kentucky, Sylvia.
	Hello, Dr. G. G stands for The Greatest.
	Thank you.
	That's it?
	That will know I have more to say.
	Come on your screen, your screen or knew this, this quote, as soon as I started it,
	it was from Joe Biden himself.
	I heard it on an August or September of 2020.
	And this is the quote we have put together.
	I think the most stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
	Stop.
	He's senile, okay?
	He's not going to admit on live television that he's put together an election fraud organization.
	Sylvia, I know he said it.
	It doesn't matter.
	He's senile.
	But sometimes senile.
	My mother had very bad dementia.
	And truth comes out in dementia.
	Yeah, it does.
	Most often when they're angry.
	That was just, you know, he was talking about election fraud prevention, okay?
	And he just went senile and he misspoke.
	But Sylvia, I get it.
	Thank you.
	Let's go to Dave in Arizona.
	Thanks, Dr. Gorka.
	I need to apologize for my behavior last Thursday.
	No need to apologize.
	It's the future of the republic.
	I get it.
	about our vote banking system as approved by President Trump.
	No need to apologize.
	It's the future of the Republic.
	I get it.
	What else would you like to say, Dave?
	I'd like to compliment you for having Mr. Solomon on and we can get back in a time capsule and go back to.
	That's when I discovered Peter Schweitzer from the Breitbart Group and his book Secret Empires.
	It's got it all in there.
	We all knew it way before the election.
	He would be another amazing guest for you.
	I love Peter.
	He's a friend of mine.
	Thank you, Dave.
	He's just really hard to get on media because he's working so very hard.
	But we will try again.
	And I think he's traveling with his mom this week.
	So have a great vacation.
	Let's go to Matt, North Carolina.
	Hey, Matt.
	Hello, Dr. G. How are you today?
	Good, good, good, good.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	My comment is I have many compliments on the Donald Trump flag.
	Trump 2024, and I think that your sales are going to increase.
	I have an inkling in my mind, my business mind.
	I think you know what went on.
	So then also, Devin Archer testifying before he goes to prison was a very good act for our movement to get Trump back in the White House.
	What do you think?
	Yeah, look, I need to see, so the way they do things, Matt, is they do it behind closed doors, they find out what he's prepared to say, then they invite them back and they do it in, you know, open session on front of the cameras.
	Hopefully it'll be released, we'll read the transcript, but the idea that he did this before he goes to prison, Maybe, maybe he just wanted to dish the dirt and he said, yes, Burisma wanted to get the prosecutor fired.
	And what happened?
	Vice President Biden got the prosecutor investigating his son fired.
	So just another nail in the coffin of Biden corruption.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	wherever you are, whatever you're doing, stay on this channel.
	All right.
	All right, who've we got?
	Okay, okay.
	Right, have we got the B-roll?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Play me at count 13.
	13.
	I don't know if you saw the video of him at the press conference.
	I did.
	What did you think about that?
	Well, I thought it was sad.
	At the same time, I think it's a shame that he Went so far out to give Green Deal money to Biden and the Democrats.
	You know, he got 10 people to vote because they needed 10 people.
	And he got 10 people to vote on numerous occasions for trillions of dollars.
	And I think that's a shame.
	But that was too bad.
	That was actually a sad thing to see.
	He had a bad fall, I guess, and probably after effect of that.
	But It was also sad that he gave trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars to the Democrats to waste on the Green New Deal and destroying our oceans and destroying our great beautiful vistas and plains all over our country with windmills that, you know, are very expensive energy.
	So that's a very sad thing, also.
	Do you want to see a new Republican leader in the U.S.
	Senate?
	Do you want to see McConnell's sub-side?
	Oh, I think we have to have that.
	No, we have to have that.
	We need... And we have some people in the Senate that are fantastic, would be great at that position, but... It's just amazing that he would do that.
	At the same time, I hope he's well.
	Food for the poor.
	Thank you.
	Yep.
	You want the audio again?
	No, no, I don't need it this time.
	Copy.
	And guys... Let's do it!
	Jeff, can you reach out to TradUp or directly to Food for the Poor and get us lots of b-roll?
	Yeah.
	Just b-roll.
	And in fact, you can probably find it yourself.
	I mean, just go to the countries or whatever.
	All right.
	How's it going?
	Good, good.
	How about you?
	Just chilling in Illinois and doing a little billing.
	Can you imagine Kurt Schlichter in a courtroom?
	That'd be like frightening.
	Bring in the anti-tank weapons.
	How's your lovely bride?
	She's not here right now.
	I'm not sure what happened.
	I came home from work and now she's doing something.
	Very good picture.
	Have you got a new laptop?
	No, this is my iPhone, but it's a brand new one.
	Ooh, see?
	He's billing people so much money, he buys a new iPhone every week.
	I'm pretty much a part-time lawyer now.
	You'll notice I'm at home and not my office.
	But I've got associates.
	Why am I going to sit and do discovery when I'm paying them to do it?
	So what do you enjoy most?
	Is it media?
	Is it town hall?
	Is it writing books?
	If you had to choose one, or warlord, what would you choose?
	If I had to choose one, I'd probably write books.
	Really?
	Wow.
	I hate writing.
	But I like doing all of it, so why not do all of it?
	You are a Renaissance crazy man.
	You're not a Renaissance man, you're a Renaissance crazy man.
	Well, I'm crazy enough to be getting up at 1 a.m.
	to drive down to Irvine to host for Hewitt.
	Yeah, no, that's crazy.
	That is the clinical definition of crazy.
	Well, Dwayne likes it.
	I'm amusing to him.
	Stand by.
	This is the fourth time.
	On the side of the U.S.
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	Alright, he is causing trouble wherever he goes.
	I think he'll be guest hosting for Hugh Hewitt when he's not writing books, writing for townhall.com, and co-hosting with that other crazy person, our good buddy Jim Hanson, the Warlords podcast, Colonel K. Kurt Schlichter, happy Monday.
	Happy Monday, Dr. Gorka.
	All right, we have to discuss what's happening today in DC.
	But first, Wilmington, you are a practicing attorney, a frightening concept.
	If you got one of your associates, let's just role play a fantasy crazy idea.
	If you got one of your associates to call up the clerk of the court And to impersonate a Senate staffer and say, you know that 800-page amicus brief against Hunter Biden?
	Would you delete it from the docket because the Congress wants that to happen?
	If that were found out because your associate is a moron who doesn't shield the phone number she's calling from, what would your reaction as their boss be?
	And what would your reaction be if you were the judge of that case?
	Well, if it was me, Dr. Gorka, I'd be saying, why?
	What a nice cell I'm in!
	I mean, I was literally talking to another guy who practices in federal courts, which I do, and I bargain in front of the Ninth Circuit and all that stuff.
	You know, it's so alien to the experience of someone who actually does You know, normal law.
	But does it happen?
	I gotta ask, is this something that less reputable firms impersonate Senate staffers regularly?
	No, this is unusual.
	Because it's so literally insane that even the worst lawyers are going to think, you know, I'm kind of dumb and evil, but I'd like to not be in jail.
	And the federal judges I've dealt with, Would probably be taking a jaundiced eye towards this kind of innovative gambit.
	And the other thing is, it's not just stupid from the point of view of your own personal survival.
	It's just stupid in general, because what do national radio hosts like Sebastian Gorka do?
	As soon as they hear about it, they get my poor engineer to print out all 800 pages of the amicus brief.
	And now, something that I wouldn't have read, because I'm sane, I'm actually going through with a fine-toothed comb.
	So it's actually strategically stupid as well, Kurt.
	Well, there was certainly a reason that they didn't want the judge to see this.
	In fact, it seems like they didn't want the judge to see the, uh...
	The plea deal?
	The plea agreement at all?
	Right, so this is my second question.
	You're doing a Vulcan mind meld.
	If you were a prosecutor, the idea that you gave universal immunity to the person who's accused, but you tried to hide the details of that plea package from the judge, again, how does that happen in America?
	Help me out.
	Well, remember, I wasn't, I've never been a prosecutor.
	I'm a civil lawyer.
	My mother was a prosecutor when I was growing up and became a judge.
	So, you know, my experience with this is so, it's so completely alien to the legal system as I understand it over the last 30 years, that myself and other practitioners sit there in slack-jaw amazement that this is tolerated.
	I mean, if it was Judge Flichter, my mom or me, And I was supposed to have a high visibility plea agreement come in, and it hadn't been filed, and I only just got it.
	I'd be like, what are you doing?
	And wait a minute, the immunity's not here in the agreement.
	It's over there in an annex, like you think I'm too stupid to find it!
	I would have taken a more aggressive tone with them.
	Well, apparently the tone in the courtroom was... Well, they wouldn't have done it with me!
	If I did that, you know, I'd better bring my toothbrush!
	Yeah, so what happens now?
	The president, God bless her, Judge Nowryka, who I don't think is a big Trumpster.
	She just realizes this is absurd.
	She's given them 14 days.
	What happens now?
	You practice the law.
	Are they going to ratchet back this sweetheart deal?
	If they are, then they open up the whole can of worms because you said, she said, you can't
	have a plea deal and keep the case open, which was Merrick Garland's excuse for not divulging
	anything in Congress.
	They're kind of caught in a cat 22.
	What's your expectation for what occurs in 11 days time?
	I think they will shamelessly push for something that ends the case and also keeps it open
	at the same time, which as you just mentioned, isn't really possible.
	But that's what they will try to do.
	And again, I want to emphasize the shameless part, the incredible chutzpah of these people to completely disregard anything like criminal procedure, the law, morality.
	This is, you know, It's rare to see a two-tier justice system so clearly spotlighted.
	But that's what they're doing, and they have no shame, and they have no fear.
	You know, it's almost a saps game to play the, well, what about this if it was one of the Trump kids?
	What if it was one of the Trump kids?
	We don't need to theorize.
	Breaking news right now.
	The head of maintenance at Mar-a-Lago has been released on bail from a court for the new indictment on a bond of $100,000.
	$1,000.
	The maintenance man.
	That's the lack of justice.
	We're going to continue the discussion.
	Follow him right now at Kurt Schlichter, Senior Columnist at Townhall.com.
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	It was General Clark with Gates.
	U.S.
	Air Force Academy.
	Oh, that guy.
	Yeah.
	I'm trying to find it.
	Okay.
	You know, instead of hunting for secret racists, maybe you ought to be hunting for malware in our freaking computer code.
	There you go.
	Just throwing that out there.
	What a crazy idea.
	That's racist!
	That's racist, isn't it?
	Chinese malware.
	You know, here's the thing.
	You know, they appointed that female admiral, right?
	And Gerry Hendricks, who's in R06, I respect him a lot.
	He says, I worked with her and she's great.
	Oh, I know Gerry.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	What did he say?
	He said, she's great.
	I've worked with her.
	She's tremendous.
	This is a great choice.
	But all of us are thinking, holy cow, Biden passed over a man to appoint a woman.
	And this lady, who may very well be just as great as Jerry Hendricks says, and who served for years, immediately gets questioned because of what Biden and the rest of these people are doing, putting race and gender and all that crap ahead of accomplishment.
	So this may be an accomplished officer, the rare good flag officer out there in modern times, and immediately and justifiably People are suspicious that she was a plant for some reason other than her ability.
	Another indictment of the disgrace that is Affirmative Act.
	So what's your point?
	That they've created a difficult position for her?
	Well, look, I don't know if she's good or bad, but it doesn't matter because people are getting suspicious because they have established that merit is not what they're looking at.
	And I think that's a rotten way to treat your people.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	Um, you've got the b-roll of all the transgender stuff.
	Yeah.
	And I just found that Gates Air Force guy.
	It's 54 seconds long.
	You want to use it here?
	There's two, there's two cuts.
	There's two cuts from him.
	I just have the one 50 because you remember the first one was like two minutes long.
	So he wanted it reduced because it was too long.
	So then I have this 55 second one that we used before.
	All right.
	Um, come in with that.
	No, I'll do my pillow.
	Then I'll tee that up and then we'll, I'll indicate to put it down early.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Pillow at the top.
	Oh, play me cut three.
	Three.
	First of all, what's irresponsible is not closing the border.
	That's her job.
	That's the first irresponsible part.
	The second irresponsible part is these governors from Arizona, Texas, yeah, they're busing people.
	What are they supposed to do with them?
	But also, for every bus they send, there's probably 10 to 20 buses that the U.S.
	government sends to different places.
	A lot of red states.
	You don't hear them complaining.
	And they're also bringing them right here to New York and other places like Chicago.
	So it's not just the governors.
	It's actually their government as well.
	All right.
	All right, 30 seconds.
	Pillow at the top.
	Oh, and then I'm going to mention the podcast again, so if you got that image.
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	The latest is Inferno.
	He writes for our friends at townhall.com, townhall.com.
	And don't forget to follow him on Twitter, at Kurt Schlichter.
	We have, it's one of my least favorite cuts politically, but it's one I use again and again and again.
	This was last week, the great Matt Gaetz.
	Talking to the superintendent of one of the wokest, although they're all pretty woke right now.
	I wish the Marine Corps had a military academy.
	I bet they wouldn't be woke.
	This is General Clark being grilled about a fellowship at the United States Air Force Academy that's not open to the majority of Americans.
	Play cut.
	You're literally pushing a program in the academies that says, if you're a cisgender woman, a transgender woman, a non-binary, agender, bigender, two-spirit, demigender, what's demigender?
	Sir, that's a term of the people that are eligible for that particular scholarship that is available.
	Yeah, but what's a demigender person?
	It's a person who looks at their gender in a different way than I do, sir.
	Well sure, that's all of these people.
	He's struggling, he's sweating bullets there.
	If you're a white guy who likes to have, you know, women as your partner, the opposite sex, it's close to you, but not if you're agender or demigender.
	I have to ask you, Kurt, did you ever think this would happen in the nation of whose uniform you were a bearer?
	Well, I wish it wouldn't have happened, and of course my dogs are very upset.
	Clearly, clearly you have cisgender dogs, Kurt.
	You know, Bitey is, you know, a demigender corgi.
	Hey!
	Chill out!
	Has your boss come home?
	I need to know.
	Has your muse come home?
	No.
	My son's DoorDash has been delivered.
	But take the dogs with you, please.
	See, it's all live.
	It's all real here on America First with Dr. Gorka.
	Yeah, you can't edit that out.
	I'm sorry.
	This is a giant cloud show.
	And I don't mean my end of this segment.
	You know, we just had a revelation that Oh God.
	You know, I mean, look, I'm all for giving the Navy grief, but holy cow!
	in the background and everything else, just to illustrate what we're talking about.
	You know, I mean, look, I'm all for giving the Navy grief, but holy cow, you know, rum
	sodomy in the last was not meant to be taken literally.
	Look, we just had revelation that the Chinese have inserted malware into our defense system
	computer code.
	And that is a serious, serious issue that could get a lot of people killed.
	And instead, we're dancing around with two-spirit, demigender, you know, furries, whatever the hell.
	It's more than ridiculous, Dr. Gorka.
	It's dangerous.
	It's cutting into combat readiness.
	It's cutting into the ability I'm very concerned about that, Dr. Gorka, for a number of reasons.
	the kind of lethal force that it needs to deter or defeat our enemies.
	And it's just ridiculous.
	So what, let me ask you the impolitic question.
	If we had to go to war, and I mean a major theater war, would we be able to, Kurt?
	I'm very concerned about that, Dr. Gorka, for a number of reasons.
	First of all, as we've seen through numerous events, including ship collisions and other
	equipment losses, that our people are not as fully trained as they used to be.
	And remember, let's talk about the U.S. Navy, which is the key force in the Pacific.
	We have been gliding along for nearly a century on the legacy of World War II, where we conducted massive operations over a massive area with massive numbers of ships.
	And it looks to me like we're losing that ability.
	We also have our alleged president in name only mentioning that we're running out of artillery shells.
	And as an infantry officer, I understand the primary killing system.
	The United States Army is the queen of battle.
	It's artillery.
	I'll just say, if Colonel K is concerned, every American should be concerned.
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	it's Yeah, right
	All right, buddy have fun can't wait for your Thursday article
	Still coming. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've told Jeff we're waiting for you in studio. Yeah. Yeah
	Play me cup 15 15 I
	And I don't think President Biden needs to say anything more than he has.
	House Republicans are going to accuse him.
	They are.
	They're going to make the accusation.
	They're going to accuse him of all sorts.
	Whether they have the evidence or not.
	Correct.
	The question, and they may have an eco, an information ecosystem that helps amplify it to a point where you don't think he needs to just write, hey, despite what you hear, just so you know, I didn't, I don't do business with my son.
	An information ecosystem.
	That's a weird idea.
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	Just do the first block Oh, okay.
	What's a good title?
	Something about Hunter's team, like how they impersonated.
	Yeah, yeah.
	What's a good title?
	Um...
	Hunter's Lawyers Should Be In Prison.
	Mm-hmm.
	.
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	Let's go to your call, waiting patiently in Knoxville, line four, Randy.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey.
	I wanted to ask your opinion on the appropriateness of that rhino swamp creature Congress lady
	from Charleston, South Carolina, that city that I love, getting up at the South Carolina
	prayer breakfast and saying that she was almost late because her and her boyfriend were going
	to do it.
	Yeah, it was so, a couple of places reported it.
	Her words were recorded that her boyfriend was going to make her late because he wanted to have some slap and tickle.
	You tell me, I don't know, is this a Carolinian thing that you can talk about sex at a prayer breakfast?
	I'm a little confused.
	Absolutely not, Dr. Gorka.
	I spent time in Charleston, I was raised in Charlotte, North Carolina, both North and South Carolina, frown on premarital sex anyway, if you believe the Bible, it's a sin, much less for that silly woman to get up at the South Carolina annual prayer breakfast and embarrass Senator Scott, standing there, talking, and she said, Well, I think President Trump has a very long list of people who should be primary.
	Thank you, Randy.
	people started laughing nervously it's ridiculous this chick needs to be
	primary dr. Gore well I think President Trump has a very long list of people who
	should be primary thank you Randy we didn't get to that story last week but
	you have reminded us three hours is clearly not enough in a day
	This is President Trump in Erie, Pennsylvania on how we have to get busy primering a lot of fake conservatives.
	Cut 11.
	They sit back and they say they have other priorities.
	We have to look at other things.
	Any Republican that doesn't act on Democrat fraud should be immediately primaried.
	And get out.
	out.
	And we have some.
	Mmm.
	You know, you show them the fact.
	10 million here, 10 million there.
	This came in, that came in, that came in.
	Oh, that's too bad.
	But we have to worry about other things.
	You don't have to worry about other things.
	You gotta stop it.
	You gotta stop it.
	They play a different game.
	These people are corrupt as hell and they play a different game.
	They play a much tougher game of hardball.
	And the Republicans have to play like these two guys and these three people.
	Actually, four people that we have.
	They have to play tough.
	And they have to be, and honestly, and if they're not willing to do it, we've got a lot of good, tough Republicans around that people are going to run against them, and people are going to win, and they're going to get my endorsement every single time, and they're going to win because we win almost every race when we endorse.
	It's hard to disagree.
	If you're not serious about Democrat corruption and doing anything about it, then you should go.
	And if you don't want to go, you should be primaried.
	Here are the exact words.
	She actually did this during her speech at the Prayer Breakfast.
	This is Congresswoman Nancy Mace.
	Let me give you the details.
	It's recorded on video.
	When I woke up this morning at 7, I was getting picked up at 745.
	Patrick, my fiancé, that makes it better, tried to pull me by my waist over this morning in bed.
	And I was like, no baby, we don't got time for that this morning.
	Mace remarked, you're at a flipping prayer breakfast.
	It's just too weird.
	All right, let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to Nancy, Minneapolis, line one.
	Oh, hi, Dr. Gorka.
	I am so honored.
	I have a question for you and I have a t-shirt idea.
	Go ahead.
	The gun question is that I'm a grandma.
	I took lessons a few years ago.
	I have my concealed carry.
	I do not have a gun.
	I like the Glock 43X but my hands aren't that strong from gardening and I want to know, I would really love your recommendation of any other type.
	And then my second one is the t-shirt which I think is We'll be excited about.
	It's two columns, and it has a line at the top that says, I'll show you mine, you show me yours.
	And President Trump's is above the left column with all of his accomplishments, and the right one has an empty place for a face, and then dots for them to fill in.
	There's no comparison.
	I like it.
	Well, it should be Biden on the other column, and then we should have a list of all his failures.
	That's actually very good, Nancy.
	I get this question, actually, this is like the third time I've had to call and ask this question, who has challenges with weak hands.
	The Glock 43 is not your choice.
	You will not be able to rack that slide easily.
	It's a small slide.
	It's a slippery slide.
	You won't be able to get around in the chamber from the magazine.
	Go!
	There are several guns that are designed for those who are challenged in terms of grip strength.
	The easiest one, the first one that was designed around that is a Smith & Wesson EZ.
	It's in the .380 caliber.
	It is designed for people with exactly your problem.
	So I haven't shot one, I like, you know, big guns, .45s, 10 mils, stuff like that, but I would recommend you go to a range, Nancy, that has one, and then try out the Smith & Wesson EZ semi-automatic in .380, because that is designed for exactly your problem.
	Great question.
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	Remember that was the district where in 2018 Katie Arrington won it and then she was in that car crash that left her like completely just incapable of campaigning at all like it was a really serious crash and even initially barely lost to the Democrat by like one point.
	Okay.
	Then Nancy Mace took it in 2020 Then Arrington tried a primary route with Trump's endorsement in 2022, and Mace beat her.
	So... But what's that got to do with talking about sex at a prayer breakfast?
	I'm just saying, like, as in Nancy Mace is terrible, like, she shouldn't even be there.
	Like, no, she is lucky to be in that seat.
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	Hey, Seb, thank you for inspiring me and for your millions of listeners, and I have a suggestion for your inspiration catalog.
	Yes?
	Are you familiar with the World War II movie set in England, 1942, Mrs. Miniver?
	I kind of vaguely remember something from my childhood.
	Why?
	Okay, M-I-N-I-V-E-R.
	Yeah.
	The last scene of that movie is a pastor in a bombed out church building with a great crowd of people and he gives an inspiring speech to them about Responsibility to engage the fight about courage and about patriotism.
	And it's a short ending segment to the movie but it is so inspiring.
	Worth listening to and maybe even worth playing.
	I will check it tonight.
	Thank you.
	We love stuff like that.
	Let's go to Joe in Illinois.
	Dr. G, how is it that Karl Rove is even relevant?
	Because he represents the Uniparty.
	He represents the big lobbying interest.
	He represents the U.S.
	Chamber of Commerce that wants the illegals.
	He represents the old order.
	That's why, Joe.
	He's everything we're fighting against.
	He has reduced DeSantis to Jeb Bush status, sir.
	Yeah, no, I think that, you know, Joe, I think you're right.
	I think it's his ideas, his whiteboard that have helped destroy the DeSantis campaign.
	I mean, there was an issue to begin with, remember?
	I mean, this guy was a career politician, five and a half years in Congress.
	He doesn't like other people.
	He's not charismatic.
	And then along comes the good old boy party.
	Yeah.
	Absolutely right.
	Great call.
	Thank you, Joe.
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	You We're close to a year of having done the manhood hour with
	our very very special guests to explain what
	ideology targeting masculinity and
	classic concepts of manhood have wrought on our civilization
	We've done more than, I think, three dozen interviews And this is our first repeat interviewee.
	Why?
	because we could interview him every single day and we would not, not be able to exhaust
	the mine of information he provides, especially on what it takes to save, to vouch-safe our
	civilizations and the kind of men we need who, in times of crisis, are indispensable,
	but then afterwards we seem to want to jettison them.
	Here's a little clip from our guest talking about Patton as a modern Ajax and then bringing
	it all around to the 45th President of the United States.
	Let's have a quick listen before we introduce him.
	But he's also got a pre-civilizational animal cunning and how why would you how can you succeed in the Manhattan real estate market?
	Dealing with crooked unions, crooked politician, crooked community.
	You got the Builders Union, you got Al Sharpton, you got Bill de Blasio.
	How do you deal with all them skyscrapers?
	So he has certain skill sets.
	And those skill sets are not Compatible with administrative whether it's civilian or military parlance and the way you solve problems and I guess the only way we could reconcile that paradox is that you wouldn't want a government of trumps or patents or those types of people but you might want one or two of them
	On occasion, when the system finds itself incapable of doing things.
	So if you haven't had workers' wages increases in 12 years, or you haven't had 3.5% unemployment in 50 years, or African-American unemployment in 7 years, Well, maybe half the country decided I'm willing to put up with the President of the United States saying that Jerry Nadler is a sleazebag.
	The Redoubtable, one of your favorite guests from the Stanford University's Hoover Institution, senior fellow author of a veritable library of books, all worth your while, Professor Victor Davis Hanson.
	Welcome back to America First and to the Manhood Hour.
	Thank you for having me.
	Before we talk about concrete individuals and current events and the state of manhood in general and the assault against it, I tell everyone, go and watch this hour-long lecture on Patternism on Ajax, but let's give them a little teaser, a little spoiler right now.
	Is this a cycle we have to go through does it have to repeat itself again and again and again that decent societies when they get soft soft and flabby when the existential threat comes down upon them like the Nazis or what have you we have to have men who are
	Barbarians.
	We have to have tough men.
	Men who, you know, slap about shell-shocked corporals and privates, because that's how we save civilization.
	And then, after they've saved us all, we say, thanks but no thanks, and like with Churchill, they get jettisoned.
	Are we condemned to this kind of cycle, Professor?
	I think so.
	I think there's something about free market capitalism and consensual government that creates a lot of capital Wealth, prosperity, and freedom.
	And that can, after generations, lead to laxity or inui, and then we forget how rough it was, or how tough it was, to create these very successful societies.
	And we become paralyzed, ossified, calcified, with existential threats sometimes.
	So in these moments of darkness, you have to turn to people that you had shunned before and
	you will shun after, like a Curtis LeMay or a George Patton or Winston Churchill.
	And it just keeps reoccurring.
	And it goes back to classical Sophoclean tragedy and his Philoctetes and Ajax and
	even Oedipus and Antigone, they're the same type of character.
	And we see it in John Ford Westerns again and again and again.
	And indeed, the entire Western genre is about the civilizing overtaking of the Wild West.
	But in that process, it can't deal with some of the existential challenges to civilization.
	And they bring these remnants, these vestigial Cowboys or gunslingers into their fold to solve problems in a way that they feel they can't solve because it would be contrary to their notions of sobriety and sober and judicious behavior.
	And then when they're done with them and the problem is solved, they're kind of horrified they ever had to use them.
	How much does, you wrote a book about President Trump, the case for President Trump, how much does the 45th president fit into this mold?
	One of the many reasons I believe he is so detested by establishment figures, one of them Is because he is, without question, alpha male.
	He is like the rude mechanics of Shakespeare.
	He is a man's man.
	Does he fit into this mold?
	Is that why he has to be so rejected by the powers that be?
	Yeah, the powers that be is defined by the Washington establishment.
	I think I got kind of in trouble in that book because I didn't quite say it, but I said he wasn't going to end well in the sense that I thought he would be very, very successful because he did have these skills to cut through, even though he had no Republican or Democratic experience team he could draw on because they both were suspicious of him.
	In a mere four years, he did extraordinary things, but the manner in which he achieved those things was against the grain or it offended the sensibilities of people that had all sorts of insidious power and they were going to destroy him or get rid of him.
	And so it wasn't surprising to me that they concocted the Russian collusion hoax or the Russian disinformation laptop hoax or the hoax of the first impeachment and a whole series of other things that we're now seeing again and again and again.
	But the problem is that very often they don't have second They don't have second appearances.
	And we'll see about Donald Trump, but it's very hard to be a tragic hero, solve the problem, and then leave and then come back.
	And, you know, we have these Westerns, The Return of the Magnificent Seven, or, you know, the sequel.
	But there isn't a sequel to Shane, and there isn't a sequel to The Searchers, and there isn't a sequel to The Wild Bunch.
	And there's not a sequel to Ajax and Philatelies don't quite have a great ending and that's what's kind of sad about the whole thing that we don't have the ability or the humility or the character to appreciate these people that have skills that we we lack.
	Yeah, maybe in this case there will be an exception because the job wasn't finished the first time round, so the sequel is the continuation of what President Trump had to do in the first four years.
	In one of your more recent books, The Second World Wars, plural, you have a very, very heartwarming dedication to your progenitors, your uncles, your namesakes, who fought and died in that war.
	Is that generation gone?
	Are the values evinced by the members of your family who went to fight for freedom in faraway lands?
	Does it still exist in America?
	Do those men still exist, Professor?
	They do, but they're not the majority anymore.
	They're atypical.
	They're a minority, and they're looked down upon with suspicion.
	They look at a black and white world.
	Most of those people that came back from World War II Of the 12 million people who were in the service, about 5 million only were in combat.
	And when they came back, they found it very difficult to fit in with post-war booming American society for the rest of their lives in some cases.
	But they were products of the Great Depression.
	They were products of having parents that were born in the 19th century.
	They didn't have a lot of affluence.
	They had faced dire poverty and they felt, you know, John Ford made a movie, they were expendable.
	They felt that given the greater good of the United States, if you put a man on a B-29 that was unproven on the Marianas, say Tinian, and you say you're going to fly 1,600 miles, eight, nine hours, and then you're going to go over Japan and you're going to bomb it, you're going to turn right around and go back.
	1600 miles and there's without sophisticated navigation That's a lot to ask for a 21 year old and yet nobody ever
	complained today I don't think you could ask that of them. We see them these
	vestigial elements in Afghanistan and Iraq and what's really worrisome
	is that there's a
	Demographic that repeatedly joins the the grandfather was in Vietnam
	The father was in the first Gulf war the children were in Afghanistan Iraq and the fourth generation is ready to go
	again And yet we're 40 or 50,000 people short in the military.
	And you get the impression that this tragic cycle, these heroes that come out of the woodwork and say, you know, I'm willing to go to this God awful place.
	That's what my family does.
	They're no longer appreciated.
	And they are tragic because they die, if you look at the white male from the middle class or the
	southern rural environs, they die at twice their numbers in the general demographic.
	And I've said that on a number of occasions and people in military got very angry at me.
	So how dare you talk about the dead in terms of percentages?
	Well, that's what the military does with everything.
	Promotions, advancements, recruitment.
	They talk about race and gender in every context except who dies the most disproportionately.
	And it's that type of Lower middle class, middle class, white male who dies in god-awful places like Fallujah or Helmand Province, and we don't appreciate them at all.
	If you're Mark Milley or Lloyd Allen, you blanketly blaspheme them or charge them with false accusations that they suffer from white rage, white supremacy, white privilege, and they don't sign up anymore.
	They're saying, no, I don't want to do that.
	They're not fully appreciated, and they know that, and they're a very small element of the American population.
	We will discuss exactly that topic next.
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	program in the academies that says, if you're a cisgender woman, a transgender woman, a non-binary, agender, bigender, two-spirit, demigender, what's demigender?
	Sir, that's a term of the people that are eligible for that particular scholarship that is available.
	What's a demigender person?
	It's a person who looks at their gender in a different way than I do, sir.
	Well sure, that's all of these people.
	You're a cisgender man, you don't even get to apply.
	Do you know what demigender really means?
	I'm not really sure, sir.
	Right, so do you know what agender means?
	All one word, not a space gender, but agender.
	Sir, I don't.
	Right, so here we are, pushing a fellowship, calling for people that you don't even know what the words mean.
	So, Professor, we have this Python-esque, I mean, it really is like Monty Python moment with Congressman Gates, with the superintendent of the Air Force Academy.
	Where he can't tell the congressman what a demigendered individual is or an agendered individual.
	That is the requirement for a fellowship program at the academy.
	The general is squirming in his seat.
	How did we get to a place where The rank denial of biology becomes a regulation and a stipulation at one of the institutions where we are meant to be training our fighter pilots and our bomber pilots, Professor?
	The left looks at the Pentagon as a way of short-circuiting the sturm und drang of the legislative process.
	In other words, if you're Elizabeth Warren, to take an example, and you've got a four-star general or a secretary of defense, you don't ask them anymore about the revolving door.
	You don't say, are you going out to Lockheed, or did you come in as secretary from General Dynamics?
	They don't care about that.
	In this Faustian bargain, they say, how many gay people are in your battalion?
	How many women have you advanced?
	How many people of color have been promoted?
	And that sets the tone for people in the lower ranks.
	They say to themselves, you can get a pass in your post-military career.
	I call it the Pentagon corporate elite.
	And it doesn't have a lot to do with battle efficacy.
	I don't think you're evaluating anymore a lieutenant colonel that said, my battalion put 99% of its artillery shells on the target.
	These were at least not as important as I had promoted or I brought in this type of race, class, gender profile.
	And that's under, that's unfortunate.
	It doesn't have a good record.
	We're kind of developing a commissariat, if you will.
	So for those who aren't familiar with this idea of the commissar or the zample it from the Cold War, would you put it into the context of how this is being forced upon our military here today?
	We're using criteria that are not related to battlefield efficacy to evaluate who we bring into the military, how we evaluate them and how we promote them.
	And that's not unusual in other militaries.
	The Soviets did it with ideology under the commissariat position.
	19th century armies did it on the basis of aristocracy and what your family background was or British regimental system.
	Often you had to buy an officer position.
	But we've never done it in the United States.
	That's why we were the best military in the world.
	Now we're using ideological criteria to adjudicate how the military functions.
	You can see it with the proposed next chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the former superintendent of the Air Force Academy, who is being considered based on his loud and well-known advocacy for woke issues and diversity, equity, inclusion.
	But not a distinguished fighting record that would be preeminent, maybe at the top five or six in the country.
	And so, I guess what I'm saying, Seb, when you have the Chairman of the Joint Chief lecture people about their white privilege to a group of people who are dying at double their numbers in the demographic in combat, And then calls his Chinese counterpart to warn him that his own commander-in-chief may be volatile.
	And he's worried vis-a-vis how the Chinese may react to that.
	Then you've got a different military than we've had in the past.
	Can it be, if you look at historic example, can this be undone, this viral political infection?
	I mean, if you look at the state of the military in, what, 1939, I think we had the same armed forces as Belgium did.
	So we had this minuscule capacity.
	Thanks to the likes of Major Wiedemeyer and others, it was ballooned up to the 12 million
	and it was an incredible fighting force.
	But that was almost tabula rasa, that was building from scratch.
	When you have this inculcation of the antithetical to the Esprit de Corps, are there examples,
	are there systems for unwinding that?
	I think so, because we have to evaluate the role of public opinion.
	And from all the polls that we, and there's not a lot of them, but the polls suggest that
	the American people are not in favor of this.
	Not in favor of this.
	So if you were to reelect a Donald Trump or a Ron DeSantis, and I just picked those two because they've been very vocal about it.
	I don't know what Tim Scott or Nikki Haley may say, but those two have at least said, That in very similar ways, they would shake up the military and that is they would not promote, allow people to the highest levels that were political or were in their positions because of politics.
	I can remember the days when Les Aspin, 40 years ago, would just rail as a Democrat about A general who would be going out to, let's say, Lockheed as a lobbyist, he'd say, you're not going to do that, or you're not going to give an exemption for you to come in.
	The left was just a watchdog.
	And then they have flipped and say, wait a minute, why do that when we can offer that as an incentive on the one hand, and then politicize the military And things on abortion are fast-tracked, green-lighted in a way that would be very difficult.
	It has become the petri dish for politicized ideological experimentation because it's the one entity that really maintained a capacity to measure based upon merit.
	So that's why it has to be undermined.
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	Professor, there's the importance of role models.
	If you want to have a healthy generation of men, of adolescent men, they have to see how a man carries himself.
	Today, this is labeled toxic masculinity, forthright, courageous, holds the door open for a woman, is prepared to use violence where violence is justified.
	We don't have those role models.
	let's say the culture shaping individuals, the toolkits or the, what do they call them today?
	The social media influences. On the flip side, we have, you know, I think of Jack Smith and the news
	of Thursday and Friday, new indictments, new attacks against the, you know, the clear alpha
	male who was the 45th president. And what I see is a model of cunning, of underhandedness, of
	using the indirect approach, using the administrative state.
	Are we at a point where that has become the model for how to fight?
	It's not the straight up, you know, outside the saloon, face to face with each other.
	It is the person who can use the most devious tactics is the one the establishment respects.
	Yeah, I think the problem is that to get to a position where Jack Smith is, that is a renowned DOJ lawyer that goes in and out of public and private practices, called upon As a special counsel to really take down conservatives.
	And a guy like Anthony Fauci was 40 years there.
	You have to have a particular way of communicating.
	You avoid controversies.
	You make sure you don't have your tracks anywhere on controversial decisions.
	And that becomes inured into you.
	And then when you see somebody like Donald Trump, You use all of those contacts you've made, all of those protocols you've developed, that have allowed you to even to be promoted and be quite successful without any real evaluation of your record and what you've actually done.
	In the case of Jack Smith, it's been pointed out, he doesn't have a good record of being a special counsel.
	He's gone after people before in an underhanded way and had the charges overturned.
	Anybody who went back through Anthony Fauci's record could see that he should have retired 10 years ago.
	But they have skill sets that aren't there to solve major problems or be imaginative, but to continue their own sinecures.
	And when they see somebody like a Trump or an outsider come in, they feel that they know the system.
	They're kind of like Lilliputians that can tie Gulliver down.
	If there's enough of them.
	And that's what we're watching right now.
	All of these prosecutors and all of their media contacts and all of their help within the deep state that leaks and everything.
	They're putting ropes around Gulliver and they're trying to tie him down in these four indictments.
	And they're not doing it, of course, to Hunter Biden or to Joe Biden.
	Because they don't pose the existential threat to them as Trump does.
	What does it say to you though, and maybe this is a glimmer of something positive, that seemingly after every indictment, whether it's Manhattan, whether it's Miami, whether it's the latest one, President Trump's popularity increases.
	Does that mean that at least the derisively titled flyover states, they understand what's really happening?
	They do.
	And my only worry is that These people that are against Trump are not stupid.
	They're, as you say, they're cunning.
	And so they feel that people in the red state Republican primary constituencies are different than themselves, and they would have natural empathy for the efforts to destroy a tragic hero.
	But they're on to the next level of Machiavellian machinations, and they feel that in the general population, These vestigial people, these holdovers from red states are not the majority and people are more like them than not like them.
	And they think, and you know this better than I do, their strategy is to tie Trump down and humiliate him and bleed him and get empathy from people who rightly so see how unfair this is and admire his resilience to this.
	But in the wider electorate, They feel that the constituency is not the majority.
	It's a new United States and this new United States will punish Trump for going against the administrative state or for being rude to the media or using vocabulary that is not in the accepted parlance.
	And that's what they're counting on.
	I don't know if they're going to be correct or not, but it's obvious what they're doing.
	I think they may have miscalculated, but we shall see.
	It's up to the people who love America.
	It's not even political anymore.
	I don't see it as a Republican-Democrat thing.
	I see it as those who believe in America and those who think America is the problem.
	It's really quite that simple.
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	I'd like a sanity check from you, if I may, Professor, because I've been saying this for, I don't know, nigh on two years now, and I hope I'm right.
	But I see a potential, especially of late, with the testimony, the hearings on Thursday of last week, and then more stories every single day, I see this potential for this A tectonic catalytic effect of the ideology of transgenderism being a wake-up call for those who otherwise deem themselves to be apolitical and then to have a healthy reaction to this assault on masculinity and even femininity.
	So I think it was on Wednesday we had representative Hunt, I think he's a former A US Army helicopter pilot.
	And I don't know about you, Professor, but I don't think I've seen a statement as forcibly put on any issue from the floor of the House in many months, if not years.
	Let's listen to what he said about the threat to his family.
	My daughters are going to watch this because you have become their new hero and I can assure you that my four-year-old and my two-year-old daughters will not change in front of biological men.
	This is ridiculous.
	I don't care what part of you are a part of.
	If you think that we're all equal and the same biologically, you've literally lost your mind.
	And when my two daughters work hard in the sport, work hard in their craft to be the best that they can be amongst other women, they will compete against other women.
	I owe Victoria and Olivia and every other young lady in this country that.
	If you think I'm wrong, I am not the problem.
	I can assure you.
	Professor, that's not a political statement.
	That's a political statement of fatherly love, of common sense, of reason.
	Could this be the issue that breaks the back of the extremists who hate our civilization?
	I think there's one or two of them, and that's certainly one.
	And another one is this de-civilization of our major urban areas.
	I just saw something like that in Oakland recently, where the local head of the NAACP said, I'm calling on white and Asian and black middle class people to stop this crime and to blast the city council.
	And they lined up for a quarter mile to get in there.
	And these were people who had voted the system in.
	And they never in their right minds thought that crime would go up to Piedmont.
	Or Montclair.
	And they're saying that this can't go on.
	It's a de-civilizational issue.
	We're going backward in time.
	But do the people who are lining up, who are protesting, I mean, you're there.
	I mean, you're in California.
	You're there in Stanford.
	Are they making the connection?
	Is there not a cognitive dissonance?
	Do they understand that they are We are.
	It's slow, but it's starting.
	And they understand that they created a Frankensteinian monster, and they never thought it would turn on them.
	policies, those actors who initiated the policies that created the rampant crime.
	Are we seeing a Damascene moment?
	We are. It's slow, but it's starting. And they understand that they created a Frankensteinian
	monster and they never thought it would turn on them. But all their money and all their education
	and all their zip codes are not enough protection from what they've created. And there's all these
	issues are force multipliers, Seb. So you have the transgender that affects their children,
	as this veteran's pointed out. And we have crime that creeps up in neighborhoods.
	It's not supposed to to go and then we have kids from the upper upper wealthy liberal white classes that have perfect SAT scores and and 4.5 and they're not getting into Harvard or Stanford.
	We played by all the rules.
	We are very liberal.
	We created affirmative action and yet like the transgender issue and like the crime issue.
	I think very slowly, incrementally, people on the left, especially their elites, thought, my gosh, I'm the victim of my own ideology.
	And I don't know whether the Republicans or the conservatives can capitalize on that disenchantment.
	It'll be very interesting, but it's there and it's growing because whatever's, what can't go on, won't go on.
	And you can't have a society where men are Dominating women's sports, or people are walking into stores in San Francisco and walking out with no consequences, or somebody who's an Eagle Scout at 17 with a 4.5 and a perfect SAT score is turned down from every college he applies to because of his race.
	That can't go on, and I think a lot of people now see that, and they're on the left.
	And when you say capitalizing on that discontent, I presume capitalizing on it would mean getting people politically mobilized, especially locally, local school boards, local positions?
	Yeah, it would take a charismatic politician to say something along the lines, you don't like me, I understand that.
	We don't agree on everything.
	But I'm your only hope.
	Because I agree with you on these issues that are destroying your quality of life.
	I didn't create them.
	People you voted for did, but I'm here to save you from them, at least according to my station.
	I don't know if you have to be that blunt, but a good politician could appeal to them in that way.
	And I think if you start to look at the polls of independents, and that's one reason, by the way, that Donald Trump won the majority of independents in 2016.
	I think there were problems he had with the media and the 70% in many states who didn't vote on election day in 2020.
	But his argument in 2016 was, you guys voted for all this and this chaos, and you need somebody like me to come in.
	And he got a lot of people in Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania that were part of the blue wall, because they felt that it couldn't go on.
	And he was right about that.
	And we'll see.
	But it's much worse now.
	It'll be much worse in 2024 than it was in 2020, that in 2020 was worse than it was in 2016.
	in 2020 that in 2020 was worse than it was in 2016. So we're in a
	trajectory of downward, a downward trajectory. Well they say elections are
	won in the middle and in another year and a half's time it will indeed clearly
	be worse.
	We're out of time.
	Let's try and get to some treatment, not just some diagnosis.
	Let's put your books up on the screen.
	We have several of them available visually.
	The Dying Citizen is the most recent.
	Please get that.
	Also, we have The Second World Wars, how the first global conflict was fought and won, and the case for Trump.
	All of them are worth your while.
	One of your favorite works, Professor, is Who Killed Homer?
	And I want to tie all of what we've discussed back to this book, The Demise of Classical Education and the Recovery of Greek Wisdom.
	Is this the panacea?
	Is this the answer?
	How much of what we are fighting for Is the result of what's happened in the education system in the last, what, at least 60 years, and how much of the education system's being fixed will be the core to the solution?
	I know you have a long-term affiliation with that amazing institution, Hillsdale, but we need more Hillsdales, or we need the Hillsdale spirit to infect institutions around the country, do we not, if we are to have a chance of undoing the insanity?
	Yeah, I think so.
	And it starts at K-12 is where the real battle has to be fought.
	There's no civic education.
	There's no history as we know it.
	There's no disinterested inquiry.
	It's not...
	Tragic, it's melodramatic and psychodramatic.
	So, in these courses, they start deductively, where we're going to show you that America's bad, that these particular names in American history have to be discredited, their statues have to be teared on, their names have to be changed.
	And they do that very early on, and the result is twofold.
	The student becomes ideologically Prejudicial, but they're also ignorant because they have not had philosophy in English and German and French and all of these rich topics, subjects.
	And then they emerge out of high school and college with the two worst traits possible combined, ignorance and arrogance.
	And you can see it when they talk.
	They don't know anything.
	And we see people in Congress that come out of this educational system and they're embarrassing their ignorance.
	And so I guess the answer is, there's a lot of answers, but it would start with why are these huge 35 to 60 billion dollar Ivy League endowments not taxed?
	And why in the world do we give tenure to professors when you could give them five-year renewable contracts if they met Certain criteria of publication or teaching or university service that was out of line rather than giving a blank check.
	Why do you need a teaching credential to teach high school, but you can teach at a community college with a master's or a BA, excuse me, a PhD, so we could give people the option, say, if you don't, you're gonna graduate, you want to teach a high school kid or eighth grade, get an MA for a year in history or biology and just skip the Skip the education indoctrination.
	It's not academic at all.
	It's just indoctrination.
	So there's things that we can do.
	I think we need to get the government out of the student loan business,
	and that would really hurt the university's progressive woke agendas,
	because they would have to have the moral hazard which would shift from an anonymous faceless government
	to their own institution and financial stability.
	And so if they wanna issue all of these loans, and they want to teach all of these fluffy classes,
	and have all of these superfluous DEI people, and then their students can't,
	they can't make their loan requirements, or they graduate with these worthless degrees,
	and then they can't get a job, and they default on a loan, it comes back to them.
	And if that happened, then they would start saying, we've gotta trim this and cut that,
	and get back to basics.
	So we could do it all, but unfortunately it would require a Republican president,
	a Republican Senate, and a Republican House, and then at least a majority of Republican governors
	and state legislatures to be on the same page.
	But it is doable, and there is a plan.
	I love this phrase, all those fluffy courses.
	I think the adjective you may use the most in this book is therapeutic, that these institutions have become therapeutic.
	They're about making the students feel good, not taxing them, not introducing them to new ideas, as is what classical education should be about.
	Well, that flew by.
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	Thank you, Professor.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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