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	the the
	the Sebastian Borja.
	Bye.
	Fridays are supposed to be fun, aren't they?
	It's funny, our studio is in a building with lots of government offices on the other floors and you roll into work on Friday and the car park is usually flipping empty because I guess I guess if you're a government employee, the fun starts Thursday evening.
	Who cares about doing your duty and being paid by the taxpayer to actually work on Fridays?
	Welcome, dear friends.
	You're listening to the America First radio show on the Salem News Channel with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka.
	The president is under attack again.
	His lawyers were Talking to the Department of Justice and an indictment regarding January the 6th is imminent, is imminent.
	My latest sources just about three minutes ago told me they will drop those additional charges.
	On Tuesday or Wednesday, but they've added charges to the Mar-a-Lago indictment.
	President Trump heard about them as he was being interviewed by our friend Matt Boyle.
	Let's hear from President Trump and the Washington bureau chief for the powerhouse that is Breitbart.com.
	Cut to.
	Just before we sat down here, the special counsel put out a superseding indictment.
	What that means is additional charges against you on the documents case, as well as they added another defendant, the head of maintenance down at Mar-a-Lago.
	I don't know if you've had a chance to review this.
	I just heard it as I'm sitting down.
	This is harassment.
	This is election interference.
	I'm protected by the Presidential Records Act.
	Totally.
	It shouldn't even be a case.
	It's not a criminal case.
	Where's Biden with all the documents?
	He's got 20 times, 30 times the documents I have, and he has not made it easy for them either.
	They're hiding boxes.
	They're sending boxes to Chinatown.
	Boxes are being sent to Chinatown, and yet China's paying them millions of dollars.
	You explain that one, and you don't even hear about it.
	All you hear about is Trump.
	No, this is a two-tier system of injustice, and that's what we have.
	We have a sick country.
	Our country is very sick right now.
	We have a failing nation, and it's a very sad thing to watch.
	You've called Jack Smith deranged.
	Again, if you're elected president again, is he somebody you would fire?
	Well, I wouldn't keep him.
	Jack Smith, why would I keep him?
	He is deranged.
	The head of maintenance?
	I guess the butler?
	The Navy veteran?
	Walt Nauta wasn't enough.
	Now they're going after the head of maintenance and at MSNBC they're giddy!
	They're giddy about this!
	Going after the blue-collar person in addition to the 45th President of the United States.
	This is Joyce Vance on MSNBC.
	Cut one.
	Play cut.
	This is a defendant who has almost no choice but to flip.
	He's looking at charges that have 20 year maximums, even though that's not the real world sentencing.
	He's looking at spending a big chunk of time in prison if he goes forward.
	And it's the final charge against him, this charge where he goes in and talks to agents.
	They actually visit him in his home.
	They tell him that he's free to end the interview at any point in time, and then he just lies to them in a bald-faced manner about when the boxes and the items from Washington first come down tomorrow, August.
	So they have him dead to center if he does not cooperate.
	And what do they get if he does cooperate?
	He is putting Trump front and center in this scheme to obstruct.
	They have Trump wanting to figure out if the videos can be erased.
	Oh, he's just a blue-collar laborer.
	He's gonna have to flip when they threaten him with 20 years.
	Jeff, I don't know, look, I don't understand the class system in America if there is one.
	I was born in a super stratified class structure in the UK where if you went to the wrong school, if you had the wrong accent, you were kind of, you know, toast in terms of certain jobs or going up the ladder of society positions.
	I've got to ask you, Jeff, does this go down well?
	In real America?
	They're not only going after the billionaire, they're not only going after his butler, they're going after the head of maintenance at Mar-a-Lago?
	I think, G, you gotta make the point is that the arrogance that they are, that they don't care about the little people, that they'll go after anyone.
	See, they went after the butler, and it's clear now that he has not flipped what they wanted to do.
	Basically make up lies.
	So now, okay, let's go to the maintenance man?
	What does he have to do with classified documents?
	It's ridiculous.
	Yeah, I think this is an own goal.
	I hope they will see through this.
	And at the end of the day, whoever they go after, whether it's his daughter, his son, his assistant, his attorneys, they've already done that.
	That's not the point.
	What are they, what are they positing?
	What, the janitor is stealing secrets and giving them to the Russians?
	Or maybe the Venezuelans?
	What the hell is the charge?
	He's a former president with the highest security clearance you can have in America.
	The Presidential Records Act of 1978 is clear.
	A president decides what is his.
	A president can declassify whatever he wants.
	But they can't get him.
	He's unstoppable.
	So they tried his butler because they had to have a conspiracy.
	It's a piracy charge!
	So they had to have two people.
	A Navy veteran.
	And they want him to flip because he is liable for 300 years in prison as well.
	For what?
	For what exactly?
	And Walt, and I know Walt.
	We were colleagues in the White House.
	Good guy.
	Quite professional.
	I guess, like Jeff inferred, he didn't flip either.
	And so now they're just, how many more people are just going to add indictments on top of each other until they think they've got somebody by the shortened curlies?
	Let's listen to Greg Jarrett.
	He understands who this Jack Smith person is, the special counsel.
	He'll be joining us later on the show today.
	We've got an amazing show if you don't go anywhere, but this is Greg Jarrett's initial analysis cut for.
	I think Jack Smith has made up his mind.
	He's a partisan.
	He has brought other politically driven cases and been roundly spanked by the U.S.
	Supreme Court for contorting the law and twisting the facts.
	If Donald Trump truly believes That he won the election and decided he was going to employ the Electoral Count Act to challenge certification of electors exactly as Democrats did four years earlier.
	That's not conspiracy to defraud the government because it requires deceit, craft trickery, and dishonesty.
	And if you truly believe something and you think you're acting lawfully, that ain't fraud.
	Such an interesting observation.
	The additional indictments they want to bring on Tuesday or Wednesday about January 6 and defrauding the election.
	You can't be defrauding the election if, as president, you actually believed that it had been fraudulent.
	If you knew it was all square and fair and square and then pretended publicly that it wasn't okay, but how is Jack Smith going to prove what President Trump was or wasn't thinking?
	And beyond that, the broader point, this guy has already, already been slapped down for the Supreme Court for that case he brought against the former governor for completely twisting and contorting the law.
	And this individual?
	Is this special counsel we're suddenly supposed to trust?
	All right.
	We'll be talking to one of the president's attorneys in about four minutes.
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	mic's up Something like Jack Smith targeting the maintenance man or something like that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Now Jack Smith's targeting the maintenance man.
	All they want is someone like that to go do a million interviews and be like, Trump was pressuring me so much, I don't care, get rid of him now.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Have you heard of Matthew Foldy?
	Thank you.
	I don't think so.
	What is he?
	Yes, you had him on the show this morning for Larry.
	Of course you did.
	Who is he?
	Newsweek.
	They want me to have him on tonight.
	I was like, no!
	No Newsweek.
	Alright, and for VDA... Hold on.
	Boris sent me this new poll that has DeSantis in third in the primary.
	Okay, good.
	Do you want it for the screen?
	Well, it depends who it is.
	It's...
	It's an Ohio college.
	This is in Ohio.
	It's Ohio Northern University.
	He'll mention it anyway, so send it to John.
	It also has, in the general, Trump up 10.
	I saw that.
	But DeSantis is only up 2.
	Which is weird, because he's more electable.
	Well, he is.
	I mean, we know that.
	Who told us that?
	I'll just text it to you.
	Karl Rove told us.
	Uh, for VD8... Hang on one sec, I gotta call Boris.
	Hang on.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Can you play me cut 10?
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	Does he enjoy it, Ken?
	Let me ask you this.
	Does Ron DeSantis enjoy campaigning?
	Because, like, I've had your job as DeSantis' principal surrogate in 2018 when he was running for governor, and I'm telling you, we traveled all over Florida together, and I saw then he was having a good time.
	Right now, it just does not look like Ron DeSantis and the people around him are, like, having fun.
	Well, I am, so I'm not on the campaign.
	Alright, I'm gonna tee that up after PhD.
	And then we'll go to Boris.
	Give the VDH title.
	What is that?
	That's Boris.
	Boris is up.
	Super noisy.
	I think he's got his hood down on his Bentley.
	What about now?
	Nope, now.
	Okay, much better.
	Sounds like Steve Deese's studio.
	I am not in the Bentley.
	All right.
	Okay, are you in your pimp mobile?
	No, not that either.
	All right, standby, 40 seconds.
	Ready for it.
	All right.
	Do we have that poll?
	Getting it standby.
	Stand by.
	All right.
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Thank you kindly.
	Just been sent a fascinating new poll.
	We're going to be discussing it momentarily with another individual the President trusts implicitly.
	And then we'll get to your calls, Don.
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	All right, this latest poll from Ohio.
	I think we should dissect it with our good buddy, attorney to the president, advisor to the president, a former colleague of mine in the White House.
	The Baron is his name here on the show.
	Boris Epstein, are you there?
	I'm here and I'm doing a baronial wave to greet everybody this beautiful Friday, honored to be with you and your audience, Sebastian.
	I hope it's not as hot where you are as it is here, because it is a scorcher in the swamp.
	So, we have this new poll out of Ohio.
	Before we get to that, let's have a little bit of fun.
	Sorry, I got distracted here.
	I've been doing a tag team hosting, guest hosting for Rob Schmidt every night on Newsmax between me and Matt Gaetz.
	Matt Gaetz had the floor yesterday and he got into a bit of fun with Ken Cuccinelli.
	I just call him the backstabber Ken, who's now a surrogate for the governor of Florida.
	And Matt asked him a question.
	Always got down.
	Oh, he's asking a question.
	Is Ron DeSantis having any fun?
	Cut 10.
	Does he enjoy it, Ken?
	Let me ask you this.
	Does Ron DeSantis enjoy campaigning?
	Because, like, I've had your job as DeSantis' principal surrogate in 2018 when he was running for governor, and I'm telling you, we traveled all over Florida together, and I saw then he was having a good time.
	Right now, it just does not look like Ron DeSantis and the people around him are, like, having fun.
	Well, I am, so I'm not on the campaign.
	Well, I am.
	Boris, I think there are many reasons why the governor of Florida isn't having fun campaigning, don't you?
	Oh, there's plenty of reasons.
	One reason is his disloyalty, because he knows deep in his heart that he's doing what he should have never done.
	He's going against the person who made him, the person who this country needs back as president as soon as possible, President Donald J. Trump.
	Ron DeSanctimonious' career was dead before President Trump resurrected it.
	and DeSantimonious is showing his disloyalty with his pathetic run.
	And you know what? The American people see right through it.
	That's why in the great state of Ohio, here's the numbers.
	President Trump at 64, Vivek Ramaswamy at 12, and Ron Robb DeSantimonious is at a very sad nine and
	falling.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	For those who are mathematically challenged, what you have just read out to us, Mr. Senior Advisor, is that the governor of Florida is now in third place behind Vivek Ramaswamy.
	That is exactly what I just laid out.
	He's in third place at nine.
	And by the way, that is tracking South Carolina.
	That is tracking Iowa, and that is tracking nationally.
	Rhonda Sanctimonious has destroyed whatever political capital he had, and not just for 2024, but also for 2028.
	And now there's all these stories coming out about his main bundlers and fundraisers selling alcohol to Fidel Castro, participating in all kinds of weird activities.
	The sanctimonious and the cabal are being exposed and destroyed, and that's exactly what they deserve to be.
	Alright, I need to know about these bundlers who have ties to Havana, but in the meantime, Boris, I have the answer for why Vivek beat Ron.
	Do you want to know the answer?
	Let me.
	He came on my show for an hour, and Vivek was superb, and that's why he's beating Ron.
	Here's the real, and why did Vivek come on your show?
	Because he knows you're America first, he knows you're all in for President Trump, and let's be honest, Vivek Ramaswamy has been steadfast in that President Trump is the best president of any of our lifetimes.
	And the only candidate who went to Miami, Boris, when he was indicted.
	You know, polling's interesting, right?
	Somebody's saying they're for Vivek Ramaswamy.
	Let's be honest.
	When the time comes to vote, I bet that those people will be voting for President Donald J. Trump.
	And what's happening with the dissanctimonious voter?
	Well, they're disappearing very, very, very quickly.
	Because what is the dissenters' campaign offering the American people?
	Just as angry Shirley, as Matt Gaetz pointed out, not excited, not enthusiastic candidate, who's angry at everybody, who's stopping the reporters again today.
	Also, I don't know, but I think a pretty good lesson in politics is, Don't get in a fight with an African-American member of the House of Representatives of your own state.
	This is incredible.
	Explain to those who missed it what he did in the last 24 hours with a guy from his state who's a rock star.
	Oh, and who happens to be black.
	Byron Donalds, total rock star, went out there and said, hey, you know, this new curriculum is fine, but I disagree with the statement that slavery was used to some positive end by some people, which is a ludicrous statement, of course.
	Well, what does the sanctimonious do?
	He gets all sanctimonious, starts attacking Byron Donalds.
	It is not playing well.
	It is blowing up in their face.
	So in a week where they have to fire over a third of their staff, over half have been fired overall.
	Alright, we've only got 60 seconds left.
	Another indictment is seemingly imminent on Tuesday or Wednesday.
	Now he's in a fight with a rock star African-American member of the House of Representatives from
	his own state over slavery.
	It is not working out.
	Ron DeSanctimonious should take his sweater vest, go home and give up.
	All right, we've only got 60 seconds left.
	Another indictment is seemingly imminent on Tuesday or Wednesday.
	My prediction is, just with Manhattan, with Miami.
	If there's another one from Jack Smith, the president's popularity will increase again because the American people see through it.
	Boris, your take.
	I agree with you absolutely.
	The American people know that President Trump is fighting for them.
	President Trump stands for our great country and they will not be deterred in backing him and will only call us further around him against this tyrannical, ludicrous, radical offense from crooked Joe Biden and his henchmen like deranged Jack Smith.
	President Trump will win this election.
	He'll be back in the White House and he will save our country.
	All right, get back to work doing your senior advising for President Trump.
	The website is BorisEP.com.
	Follow him, Boris Epstein, Boris underscore Epstein, on all the usual social media platforms.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	What idiot attacks the most charismatic black conservative in Congress?
	They're all melting.
	They're nuts.
	And all the stuff that they've done the last two days, they won't stop with the January 6th testimony.
	You know, the thing about him, Electable, how is Ron, like, he can't connect with the base who agrees with everything he did.
	Right.
	So how is he going to connect with independents that don't agree?
	Well, it's easy.
	He just says woke 12 times at a press conference.
	Oh, play me the Maloney thing.
	I want to see his face.
	Play me cut 7.
	I look forward to pursuing an ambitious agenda for progress and I hope you'll be nice to me as a chairman.
	What a creep.
	He talks like an AM radio late at night when you're in between signals.
	What?
	Like that?
	Give me cut 11.
	I am not a lawyer.
	But if you are deleting evidence, it's because you know you're committing a crime.
	And anybody who supports this, anybody who defends this, is complicit in endangering America, endangering the men and women who are putting themselves in harm's way every single day and every single night in order for us to enjoy these freedoms.
	Yeah.
	Grab the last top clip I got.
	It's Ty Cobb.
	Is he dialing us or are we dialing him?
	It's next segment.
	D. Oh, sorry.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Give me, let me hit cut 13.
	So what message do I want to bring to American teenagers and their families?
	What happened?
	So what message do I want to bring to American teenagers and their families?
	I didn't need to be lied to.
	I needed compassion.
	I needed to be loved.
	I needed to be given therapy to help me work through my issues, not affirm to my delusion that by transforming into a boy, it would solve all my problems.
	We need to stop telling 12-year-olds that they were born wrong.
	That they are right to reject their own bodies and feel uncomfortable with their own skin.
	We need to stop telling children that puberty is an option.
	That they can choose what kind of puberty they will go through, just so they can choose what clothes to wear, or what music to listen to.
	Puberty is a right of passage to adulthood, not a disease to be mitigated.
	Great.
	Good.
	Good, good, good.
	Um... Hello.
	Yeah, I'm gonna T up 12 and then go to cruise.
	On the side of the US Constitution, America first!
	Hey Jeff!
	The Baron was on good form.
	What do you think?
	It's Friday?
	Is he getting ready for some cigars?
	Well, I think when you're on the campaign and DeSantis hit third, that's a time for a cigar.
	Good point.
	I mean, I just tweeted that out.
	Third?
	How do you slip to third against a guy who's not been governor, not served in Congress?
	I guess maybe that's the reason.
	Congratulations, Vivek.
	But I think it has everything to do with him coming on our show.
	What about you, Geoff?
	Yeah, but it's also interesting that Ron's following a third in Ohio.
	That's the Midwest.
	Remember in his book, he said, even though he grew up in Florida, he was raised on the values of Eastern Ohio and Western Pennsylvania.
	Like Biden grew up with Puerto Ricans.
	Exactly.
	I'm sorry.
	Behave, Gorka.
	All right, we're going to go to your calls momentarily, but we've got an amazing cut.
	We're finding more and more decent congressmen, at least.
	You haven't heard of them before and they pop up and then they just nail the scumbags like Mallorcas.
	Just listen to this cut.
	It's a little bit long, but something's happening.
	I don't know if it's thanks to Kevin McCarthy or people realize President Trump's coming back, but the gonad coefficient amongst Republicans on Capitol Hill is increasing daily.
	Cut 12.
	Play cut.
	Are you aware of how many illegals have been encountered at our border and how many known gotaways have escaped into America?
	And I just want the numbers.
	Congressman, you speak of the Southwest.
	Sir, I just want the numbers.
	And the challenge of migration that we face.
	Thank you, I appreciate your answer.
	It's 5.6 million illegal alien encounters and 1.5 million known gotaways.
	How about the number of aliens on the terrorist screening database who have been caught?
	Not the ones who haven't been caught, but the ones who have been caught just in the last nine months.
	Do you know that number?
	I'm very pleased to provide that to you.
	I do.
	It's 140.
	Thank you.
	How about the number unaccompanied minors processed in FY23?
	Do you know that number?
	Similarly, Congressman, I'd be very pleased.
	Thank you.
	I know that number myself.
	It's 152,000.
	We have seen a continuous surge of fentanyl coming from China, being distributed by Mexican drug cartels, and destroying countless American lives.
	Are you aware of how many Americans died How many Americans died in 2021 at the hands of fentanyl?
	I am aware of those numbers, Congressman.
	71,000.
	71,000 human souls.
	I'm impressed.
	I'm impressed.
	Not with Mayorkas.
	He's a scumbag.
	He's probably the most evil person in the administration.
	But the people are finally putting their feet to the fire.
	We want to see action, not just grillings like that.
	But I think something's happening.
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	We were barely on the air.
	I think we'd started broadcasting about three nanoseconds ago, and line one lit up.
	Doctor G, the rolling thunder of conservative talk radio and the conservative movement, welcome back on the job.
	It's good to be back.
	That's why starting quarterbacks are starting quarterbacks and backup quarterbacks are backup quarterbacks.
	The backup quarterbacks did great, but there's no substitute for the man himself.
	Bob was great.
	I really liked his energy.
	What I really got a kick out of was Kash Patel.
	How did Bob do for you, Don?
	Bob was great.
	I really liked his energy.
	You know who I really got a kick out of was Cash Patel.
	I told Cash, I said, Ronald Reagan used to call Cap Weinberger Cap the Knife.
	I said, we're going to have to start calling Cash, Cash the Razor.
	Oh, I like that.
	Do you realize that was only the second time he'd ever done radio?
	He did it for me about a month before.
	Only the second time!
	He's a natural!
	Yeah, he's, man, he's made for it.
	What have you got for us today?
	Well, quickly, just real quickly, briefly, a side swipe.
	I wanted to mention that the L.A.
	Times has laid off something like 700 workers.
	So that's good news for us.
	Budweiser laid off 400 from their corporate headquarters.
	Incredible, huh?
	I'm hoping Conrad Black will make a hostile takeover and then we'll get a good L.A.
	Times.
	What an idea.
	But you know what I really want to call about?
	You remember how people were trashing the Sound of Freedom movie?
	Yeah.
	And I couldn't figure it out.
	How can you trash a movie like this, you know, that's attacking, you know, child sex trafficking?
	But then I realized they mentioned God too much, like two or three times.
	You mentioned God, you can't do that.
	You know how we do in our church, you know, as in yours, Dr. G, you always meant we speak about the church, militant and expectant.
	Yes.
	The Church of Marxism is militant unexpected, too.
	They're militant atheists, and so any reference to God, they have to attack it.
	It's like a vampire going after, you know, holy water.
	Well, thank you for bringing it up.
	I wrote a piece about it, the backstory behind the movie Sound of Freedom, and Breitbart put it at the top of their front page, so check it out.
	It's on my Twitter.
	Thank you, Don.
	We're going to get to Antoinette after our next guest.
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	Who is Jack Smith and what do you need to know about him?
	Here is the legal mind par excellence, Greg Jarrett, with his take.
	Cut four.
	I think Jack Smith has made up his mind.
	He's a partisan.
	He has brought other politically driven cases and been roundly spanked by the U.S.
	Supreme Court for contorting the law and twisting the facts.
	If Donald Trump truly believes That he won the election and decided he was going to employ the Electoral Count Act to challenge certification of electors exactly as Democrats did four years earlier.
	That's not conspiracy to defraud the government because it requires deceit, craft trickery, and dishonesty.
	And if you truly believe something and you think you're acting lawfully, that ain't fraud.
	Fascinating analysis on the impending additional indictments concerning January 6th from the author most recently of a seminal work on perhaps the trial of the century.
	That's a good title for the book.
	The Scopes Monkey Trial, get it today, Trial of the Century by Greg Jarrett.
	Greg, welcome back to America First.
	Before we get to that fascinating analysis of what we are expecting to drop on Tuesday or Wednesday, let's talk about the additional indictments on the Mar-a-Lago raid. Is it? You're the expert, you know, I'm not a legal
	scholar. You know, I did stay at a holiday inn once, but when you have to bring
	additional charges after the initial 37, is that a good sign for the prosecution or not?
	Well, I'm surprised the judge isn't angry about it because they, you know, they already
	had a scheduling conference and they're moving forward and, you know, all of a sudden he
	files a superseding indictment with three additional counts without a heads up to the
	court.
	I mean, most federal judges, and I've appeared before them, would be irate about that.
	But look, when you examine some of these additional counts, they've got serious obstacles to overcome, the prosecutors.
	You know, for example, it appears to be based on triple hearsay.
	You know, a person told another person what they heard Trump say.
	Well, you know, we have rules of evidence.
	That's inadmissible.
	And, you know, there are exceptions.
	But I, for the life of me, can't figure out one that would apply.
	Is this sloppiness or desperation or both?
	Oh, I think it's many things, including an effort to sully Trump in the court of public opinion.
	Not that, you know, you really have to, you know, if you're, you know, bringing a case, depends on, you know, this one, of course, is in Florida, but the January 6th will be in Washington, D.C., if there's an indictment, and that's a slam-dunk case for any prosecutor involving Donald Trump.
	Because the jurors, they're horribly biased.
	And the fact they're going after the maintenance manager, I mean, that just looks sleazy.
	Yeah, it does.
	And it's thuggish.
	And, you know, they're trying to intimidate and threaten him into saying what they want him to say.
	Um, not the truth.
	And you know, when the unlimited resources and immense power of the federal government comes down on your head like an anvil, it's pretty hard to resist.
	All right, let's talk about that clip we played at the beginning with the additional indictments that should drop next week about January the 6th.
	Explain this fascinating prism that you gave us, that if President Trump actually believed what he said about a fraudulent election in 2020, then the whole case against him collapses?
	Well, it's not a crime to claim that the election was stolen.
	Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi said the same thing four years earlier.
	It was rigged.
	It was stolen from me, Hillary said.
	Now, Trump did encourage Republican lawmakers to challenge certification of electors on January 6th, which they did, but so did Democrats four years earlier.
	But is that a crime?
	No, it's not a crime.
	It's permitted under the Electoral Count Act.
	Which, by the way, is vague, ambiguous, and a model of confusion, but historically it's been used to challenge certification.
	And not just in the last two presidential elections, but in earlier elections.
	So, you know, it seems as though Jack Smith wants to contort the law and make a criminal charge out of conspiracy to defraud the government.
	What's that?
	Knowingly false and deceitful interference in a governmental function to wit an election.
	But that's a specific intent crime.
	They'd have to prove that Trump knew that he lost and then try to, through deceit, craft, trickery and dishonesty, you know, abuse a government function And, you know, that's exceedingly difficult to show because everything we know about Donald Trump is he truly believed he won the election.
	And the charge they've used against so many of the defendants, the obstruction of an official proceeding, could Jack Smith try and resort to that as well?
	You know, he could try.
	He's also examining tampering with a witness, which I think is a misnomer.
	It's really sort of obstruction of Congress.
	Deprivation of rights under color of law.
	That's a civil rights case.
	Abusing your position of power or office to go after somebody on a racial basis or some other animus.
	I mean, these things are enormous stretches.
	I mean, Jack Smith, He realized he couldn't charge Trump with inciting violence based on speech, because that's protected speech, and he didn't encourage imminent lawless action.
	So he rolled up his sleeves and pulled out the books and said, I've got to find something, anything.
	And he combed the books and the criminal codes to find something.
	And as I say, this is a stretch.
	It's a sign of desperation.
	The website is TheGregJarrett.com.
	The book is Trial of the Century.
	Thank you, Greg.
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	I I can't even get a second to think.
	Jack Smith is a thug.
	Oh, play me, um, cut mine again.
	I want to get to Never Back Down, the super PAC, which controls around $200 million.
	You and Jeff Rowe, the chief strategist for it, have a lot to say about how that money is spent.
	Jeff Rowe, a big DeSantis supporter, also has another prominent Republican governor in his client base.
	That's Glenn Youngkin from your home state of Virginia.
	Can you commit tonight that none of the money from the Never Back Down Super PAC will be flipped to support the candidacy of Glenn Youngkin in the event that you guys don't see DeSantis as a good bet?
	You know, they didn't tell me they were bringing me on for your conspiracy theories.
	Look, this PAC is committed... That's a fair question.
	Are you going to use the money that way?
	No, it's not really.
	I mean, not with your 12 degrees of Kevin Bacon.
	We're committed... Wait a second, wait a second.
	You have the total control to be able to direct that money.
	You don't think it's a fair question to ask you where it's going?
	I'm answering it, aren't I?
	So it really doesn't matter if it's there.
	We're committed solely To electing Ron DeSantis the president.
	These guys aren't having as much fun as they were in May when he announced.
	I see.
	He just didn't like that question.
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	Is it Thursday?
	No, it's Friday.
	But it's Antoinette!
	Hey Antoinette!
	Hey, Dr. G, there's something very, very sneaky going on here in the Republican Party in the state of California, and I just have to give you heads up because of all your listeners in the state of California that listen to you.
	We have a lot of listeners in California.
	So what's going on, Antoinette?
	First off, you know, the Republican Party in California, don't you guys frickin' care what they're wanting to do right now?
	First though, let me give you the phone number to the state of California Republican Party office in Sacramento.
	You guys can start bugging them now, because tomorrow, Saturday, they're going to be here in Orange County at the Irvine Marriott Hotel, and I'll tell you what's going on.
	Here's our number right now up in Sacramento, area code 916-448-9496.
	You guys, you need to call them.
	What they're wanting to do now and their executive committee for all the delegates, they're going to vote on, they already voted on it, but they're just trying to, I guess you could say appease us, which is pissing me off.
	They want to change the rules on how these delegates are going to vote at the National Committee for the President.
	A lot of us want Trump, but Ms.
	Jessica Patterson, wake up!
	Smell the coffee!
	Just like you and Ronna McDaniels, which I don't care for either of you two women.
	They want to change the rules how they're going to divide the delegates.
	I thought this was news three weeks ago and it was all fixed.
	Hang on, read that number out again.
	the rules again Dr. G and they're gonna so-called vote on them.
	So I'm not going to get hang on read that number out again 9 1 4 no 9 1 6
	area code. The number is 4 4 8 9 4 9 6.
	And tell them that they shouldn't change the system for counting.
	Alright, so thank you Antoinette.
	I'm going to read out this number.
	If you care about what happens in California, 916-448-9496.
	Call them up and tell them what you think.
	Don't change the way the delegates are elected.
	916-448-9496.
	That's why we have the best callers and best listeners.
	It's Friday.
	It's Ask Dr. G Anything.
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	I would like to support a yes vote on this.
	It provides $823 billion.
	That's an increase of $26 billion for the Department of Defense.
	on this. It provides $823 billion. That's an increase of $26 billion for the Department
	of Defense. And it funds priorities submitted.
	Thank you.
	That's Dianne Feinstein, who in a hearing was told, did you hear it?
	It was quiet.
	Four times!
	Four times.
	Just, just say aye.
	Stop talking.
	We're voting now.
	Just, just say aye.
	That's the reality in the swamp.
	We've got a guy in the White House who wears trainers, who wears running shoes to stop him falling up the stairs of Air Force One.
	We've got Nancy Pelosi who in her stock market trading managed to get a 60% return.
	Now that's impressive!
	And Dianne Feinstein who...
	Doesn't know when it's time to shut up and just say yes.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	Hour two of America First.
	It's Ask Dr. G Anything Friday.
	It's Second Amendment Friday.
	But first, I want to share with you, well, no, let's get serious.
	Before we have fun, let's get serious.
	Yesterday was an amazing set of witnesses testifying before the House on the Just the mutilation, the sheer perversity of what the transgender radicals are doing to this nation.
	And one of the star, no, not one of them, the star witness was a young girl, young woman called Chloe, Chloe Cole, who was convinced at the age of six that she would be happy if she was a boy, and then started doing transition quote-unquote therapy at the age of 10.
	And it destroyed her life.
	Here's Chloe, cut 13, just listen.
	So what message do I want to bring to American teenagers and their families?
	I didn't need to be lied to.
	I needed compassion.
	I needed to be loved.
	I needed to be given therapy to help me work through my issues, not affirm to my delusion that by transforming into a boy, it would solve all my problems.
	We need to stop telling 12 year olds that they were born wrong.
	That they are right to reject their own bodies and feel uncomfortable with their own skin.
	We need to stop telling children that puberty is an option.
	That they can choose what kind of puberty they will go through, just as they can choose what clothes to wear or what music to listen to.
	Puberty is a right of passage to adulthood, not a disease to be mitigated.
	She was provided testosterone repeatedly.
	Changed her looks, her voice, and she's fundamentally sterile today.
	This happened to her starting at the age of six.
	Here she continues.
	Cut 14.
	Today, I should be at home with my family celebrating my 19th birthday, and instead I'm making a desperate plea to my elected representatives.
	Learn the lessons from other medical scandals like the opioid crisis.
	To recognize that doctors are human too, and sometimes they are wrong.
	My childhood was ruined along with thousands of detransitioners that I know through our networks.
	This needs to stop.
	You alone can stop it.
	Enough children have already been victimized by this barbaric pseudoscience.
	Please let me be your final warning.
	Thank you.
	What did the Democrats do?
	They ignored her.
	They made fun of her.
	They said this isn't a problem.
	They actually lied.
	The likes of Jerry Nadler said that, no, no, no, no, these quote-unquote treatments help these people mentally, make them more stable, which is strange because more than 45% of those who quote-unquote transition end up trying to commit suicide.
	I guess that's Jerry Nadler's definition of being stable.
	Half of your population trying to kill themselves because they've been mutilated.
	They'll never have children.
	In fact, in most cases they'll never actually have sexual pleasure because of what's been done to them by people who actually have an M and a D after their name.
	Doctors, surgeons who've taken the Hippocratic Oath which says what?
	First do no harm.
	First do no harm?
	You sterilize children.
	You know who else sterilized children?
	The communists.
	And before them, the Nazis.
	This is what the left wants to sell to you as mental health as healthcare.
	We will be judged, all of us will be judged, by how we react to this phenomena.
	Our civilization stands or falls on the metric of how we treat the most vulnerable in our society.
	The elderly, the unborn, and young children like Chloe was.
	We can't ignore this.
	We have to take a stand.
	Alright, let's ask Dr. G anything.
	Friday, 83333, Gawker, that's 8333346752.
	Sean, waiting patiently in New York City, has got a question!
	Happy Friday, Sean.
	Happy Friday, my friend.
	Did you see the President's son walking out of court yesterday with that smug look on his face?
	The day before yesterday, I did, I did.
	He smiled on his way to the Secret Service armored limousine.
	And I was just thinking to myself, what is that quote from Hamlet that you could smile and be a villain?
	He had his hand in his pocket like he was a royal.
	It was unbelievable.
	There is no remorse.
	You know what I thought of, Sean, as I watched that footage?
	He was.
	I mean, if you haven't seen it, guys, watch the footage from Wilmington as he leaves the courtroom, despite the fact the plea deal had been exploded by the judge.
	He's smiling as he gets into a secret service SUV.
	And I just thought, I saw the officer standing, the agent, and I thought, what kind of detail must it be to have to protect At the cost of your life.
	A criminal.
	A scumbag.
	Like Hunter Biden.
	Could you imagine Sean being one of those agents whose job it is to protect this person?
	To take a bullet for this man?
	Yeah!
	He's a traitor.
	He's a traitor.
	They should bring charges of treason for this man.
	You have to take a bullet for a guy who said on a phone call, I'm in business with the effing chief spy of China.
	And you have to protect him at the cost of your life.
	Incredible.
	Incredible.
	Doctor, I wanted to tell you in passing that I saw on the New York Post that Sam Bankman fraud, I mean... Oh, that's good.
	I like that.
	Sam Bankman fraud.
	That's good.
	That was a little Freudian slip.
	That he was not being prosecuted for exceeding campaign contributions.
	I'd certainly like to know how Dinesh D'Souza feels about that.
	Oh indeed!
	I think Dinesh bundled $14,000 for a buddy against regulations.
	Sam Bankman Freed just had, was it yesterday or the day before, I think it was yesterday, the DOJ drop The campaign finance charges against him, and I'm sure, Sean, it has nothing to do with the fact that he gave $40 million to the Democrats.
	And, you know, so essentially we have some kind of unwritten statute which prosecutes for ideological crimes.
	I didn't know about that one.
	They didn't teach me that one in law school.
	Did you go to law school, Sean?
	Way back when.
	Where, where, if you went to law school, I just have one question for anybody of, you know, of legal, you know, training and background.
	Where, apart from Norica in Wilmington, where are the good judges, Sean?
	Well, I know we had good judges in Ohio.
	That's where I went to law school.
	I liked Ohio very much.
	I just got the sense that these are people that really loved America.
	As a matter of fact, we had a lot of veterans in Ohio.
	So there was a lot of patriotism.
	It's a very centrist state, and it's a bellwether state, in fact.
	I think we have great judges in Texas.
	Tennessee is a fantastic state.
	Because it's awesome power, because you're there for life, basically.
	Yeah, well, if it's a federal appointee, yes, that's correct.
	Many other places, they're voted in.
	I'm against that.
	I don't like the idea of voting in judges, because then they become politicians.
	So, you know, that's just my druthers.
	All right.
	Great call.
	Stay on the line.
	I think we have to reward Sean with a... What are we going to give him?
	Given that we are saluting Chloe Cole today, it's the latest t-shirt, a little reminiscent of a certain Pink Floyd lyric.
	It's the t-shirt.
	Hey!
	Groomers, leave our kids alone.
	Get yours today.
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	We couldn't remember where it was.
	We knew we had one in the studio and it's behind... It's behind Alex.
	It's decorating his studio.
	Let's go Brandon.
	That's where we put it up all those months ago.
	If you want one, it's hiding behind his screen there.
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	She is incredibly in D.C.
	She was a fascist just a few months ago, and now she's sitting in the Oval Office.
	I'm confused.
	Maybe our next guest can explain.
	This is the current incumbent of the White House with a strange request to Prime Minister Meloni of Italy.
	Cut 7.
	I'm looking forward to pursuing an ambitious Mumble mumble mumble, I hope you'll be nice to me.
	That's German.
	Mumble mumble mumble, I hope you'll be nice to me. What was that Jim Carrafano?
	I couldn't...
	Could not begin to explain.
	Foreign policy!
	Come on!
	Yeah, so I can talk a lot about Maloney, who is really, I think, one of the rising world leaders.
	Yeah, explain why, because for those who don't follow, you know, Italian politics, she's become like a rock star.
	Yeah, so we have to realize, I mean, there are multiple parties on the right and the left in Italy, and to win an election, you not only have to beat the other guys, you have to pull together a coalition of your own parties.
	So there's three major conservative parties.
	She is the undisputed leader, and she has crushed the opposition.
	And remember, this is Italy.
	We change governments like we change socks, right?
	You know?
	And she is staunchly conservative.
	She is pro-family.
	She is pro-American.
	She is anti-Russian.
	She is anti-China.
	She is anti-illegal immigration.
	She could be the U.S.
	candidate for president.
	She's over 36.
	Let me tease that second point out because it's a fascinating one because I love what she does.
	The pro-family stuff, the sovereignty stuff.
	And then she confuses a lot of quote-unquote conservatives when she goes, the stinking Russian regime has invaded Ukraine.
	We will support Ukraine.
	You travel all of Europe.
	How does this go down with other conservatives?
	Are they on board with her anti-Kremlin stance?
	Well, they are.
	And, you know, the center-right is the rising force in Europe.
	I mean, they just came that close to toppling the Spanish government just a week ago.
	So, overwhelmingly, conservatives in Europe are anti-Russian and pro-Ukraine and want Ukraine to win.
	So the kind of isolationist Tucker Carlson thing isn't a big deal in Europe?
	No.
	You know, when Tucker went to Europe, he was in Hungary.
	He even said, you know, Russia's wrong, Ukraine is right.
	They cut it from the interview, but he didn't say it.
	So what's interesting about Italy is Italy is far from the front lines.
	So you can understand why Poland and Romania, which are, right, and actually Italian popular opinion and the government was actually very weak on this and very pro-Russian.
	Before the election.
	Yeah, and she came in and said, there was no popular mandate for this, she came in and said, Right.
	is the enemy. And which often happens in democracies is people often don't believe in a foreign
	policy, they believe in a leader. And they have to show the way. Right. And you know,
	Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, George Maloney comes and says, no, no, you don't
	understand. This country is evil and is trying to destroy us.
	And Italians are concerned about China.
	And they are China's stalking horse.
	China wants a weak, divided, distracted Europe.
	And Russia's doing that for them.
	So a defeat for Russia is a defeat for China.
	And people literally said, you're the boss.
	You're the president.
	We trust you.
	And the whole country really kind of fell in line.
	Well, that's, I think, what we call statecraft.
	That's what we call leadership.
	It's called leadership.
	Let's look at the antithesis of statecraft and leadership.
	We have a new Secretary General from Spain, no, from Portugal, at the United Nations.
	Antonio Gutierrez has a threat analysis for the world that I think our friend Jim may disagree with.
	So this is Cut 5.
	Play Cut.
	And for scientists, it is unequivocal.
	Humans are to blame.
	All this is entirely consistent with predictions and repeated warnings.
	The only surprise is the speed of the change.
	Climate change is here, it is terrifying, and it is just the beginning.
	The era of global warming has ended, the era of global boiling has arrived.
	Jeff was saying that it's so good because, you know, global climate change was so boring, it's kind of passé.
	At least we have a new one.
	It's now global boiling, Jim.
	So funny, because I work at a think tank, as you know, where we do research.
	And just the other day, I was sitting with a bunch of authors who'd written a panel of papers on climate change.
	And then they were actually, it's called murder boarding, right?
	They're sitting there critiquing, well, is your data right?
	And everything else.
	So some of the really interesting things that came out, just for example, right?
	So the worst kind of tornado you can have is an F5.
	It's been 10 years since we've had an F5.
	That's actually unprecedented.
	So that length of time between it... So we're actually getting less.
	That's anomalous.
	Right.
	We're getting less.
	And so you would think if this undisputed rise of greenhouse gases over the last decade, we should be getting more extreme weathers and we're getting less.
	The really interesting data is the data on hurricanes, right?
	Because this is the thing that's going to kill us, right?
	The destruction from hurricanes is up.
	Because?
	More people live where there are hurricanes, right?
	They move to Florida, they build their house.
	So there's more destruction, there's more property damage.
	It's not because the frequency or the severity of hurricanes is increasing.
	There's more property to damage.
	Right.
	Heat's another one, right?
	So there are so many factors that go into global, that go into heat waves and things like droughts.
	And that phenomenon is completely explainable without climate change.
	So we can explain why we have heatwaves and why we have droughts and never talk about climate change.
	So heatwaves do not prove there's climate change, they just prove there's weather.
	But what does it mean that this is now the Secretary General and he's spouting this stuff?
	Look, it's just this nonsense we hear from all these people, right?
	It's about power and control and directing our lives, it's not about... So, okay, ten times as many people die from cold injuries as heat injuries, right?
	So it's a ten times bigger problem.
	So if you're actually concerned about people dying from weather, because there's no such thing as climate casualties.
	That's just a falsehood.
	It's a made-up thing.
	Because more people die from cold.
	And if you want to protect people from cold, what do you need?
	You need heat.
	And if you are worried about, you know, heat injuries, what do you need?
	You need air conditioning.
	So what do you need for all these things?
	You need affordable, reliable, dependable, abundant electricity.
	What will green policies give you?
	Not affordable, not reliable, and not dependent.
	So the guy in California is saying that it's good for you, for blackouts, you're saving the world.
	The reality is no, you're just harming people.
	And for every molecule of greenhouse gases that you keep out of the planet, China's putting in a thousand.
	A thousand.
	Yep, I vote for nuclear energy.
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	This money was just unbelievably riveting.
	Starting at six years old.
	Yeah.
	Did you hear the rest of what Gutierrez said?
	No.
	He said...
	It was just unbelievable.
	♪♪ ♪♪
	Um, and...
	And we're going to do car again, and I'm going to tee up 11.
	Alright?
	But I presume visually it was beautiful, right?
	And the acting's fantastic.
	Super long, right?
	No, I don't know.
	It's on the longer side.
	Did you see it on IMAX or regular?
	No, just regular.
	And the acting was amazing.
	Even Matt Damon?
	Well, Robert Downey Jr., right?
	It's the best thing he's ever done, because I swear to God, everything he does is just Robert Downey Jr.
	It doesn't matter, right?
	It's just the same character.
	This is totally different.
	Who does he play?
	He plays Strauss, the head of... Strauss was the head of the Atomic Energy Commission, who actually...
	who actually leaked all the information to Trump on Piquenos to pull Oppenheimer's clearance.
	Whoa.
	And then...
	I... I...
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	We are talking national security, foreign policy with a man who has said Oppenheimer is amazing.
	My son has just texted me.
	I was asking him.
	He saw it last night.
	He said it was incredible.
	I think it was one of one of Nolan's greatest movies.
	One of the greatest of all time.
	Well, if my son says that.
	I'm gonna go see it.
	Alright, Jim, got a cut to play with you.
	We're going to eschew politics because you don't do politics, you do policy.
	But this is about national security.
	This is a man who thinks he's going to be president.
	Former CIA flunky Will Hurd.
	Cut 11.
	I am not a lawyer.
	But if you are deleting evidence, it's because you know you're committing a crime.
	And anybody who supports this, anybody who defends this, is complicit in endangering America, endangering the men and women who are putting themselves in harm's way every single day and every single night in order for us to enjoy these freedoms.
	I want to ask you the foreign policy aspect.
	What does it mean when other countries look at us, and not only do we have a special counsel lumping more indictments against the former president, but we have candidates calling him a national security threat.
	But you go ahead.
	No, because I want to say, because this actually is the Oppenheimer story, right?
	So for those that know the history of Oppenheimer, so he's the father of the atomic bomb, and then his clearances were revoked because he's accused of being a communist and a spy, and And what do we know?
	So, none of that's actually true.
	There's never been an ounce of evidence that Robert Oppenheimer spied for the Russians.
	No.
	None.
	That's socialist tendency maybe.
	But that he never, never compromised, and he never committed treason or any of that.
	And we know that because we have all kinds of data, including the Bonota transcripts and all kinds of Russian data.
	So we actually have the Russian side of the story.
	So there's no evidence he was ever a spy.
	Now, was he smart about policy?
	No, he was a freaking idiot, in my opinion.
	When it came to nuclear weapons?
	He knew how to build a nuclear weapon, there's no question about that.
	But what it meant geostrategically?
	I think he was largely wrong, okay?
	And here's what happened is, people disagreed with his policies, and so what they did is they weaponized the law to try to destroy him.
	Now what does that sound like?
	America today.
	It's using the power of the state against those you politically disagree with.
	Exactly.
	So what does this look like?
	We've only got like a couple of minutes left.
	But what does this look like in friendly capitals and inimical capitalists?
	Because you're the expert.
	You travel the world.
	So if I'm a bad guy and I try to think like a bad guy, you know, I'm constantly thinking about how can I take advantage of this?
	And so I'll give you a good example.
	Right now, The Chinese perceive Biden as politically vulnerable, and Biden's outreach to China, which, let me send John Kerry, let me send my secretary, let's just find a way to get along.
	Now, the Chinese aren't stupid.
	They know what Biden's doing.
	Biden wants to park China until after the election, right?
	He just wants China, you know, take whatever you want, just be quiet until after the election, right?
	Like Obama said, I'll have more flexibility after the election.
	So now if you're China, you're like going, I got a card I can play here.
	Joe Biden wants us to sit on our hands and shut up, right?
	And he's basically kind of pleading with us to do that.
	Do I do that?
	Or do I turn up the gas, right?
	Those are the implications.
	And our friends, what do they think?
	Of a former president having his home raided, new indictments, new indictments next week?
	What do they think about America?
	Well, I think Maloney's a good example of this.
	So she comes here, she shakes hands and smiles with Biden.
	She shakes hands and smiles with the head, with the conservative leaders in the House and the Senate, right?
	What she sees is, you know, you guys have politics and whatever.
	But she sees the American military, American power, American influence, American trade, technology.
	She transcends that, because she's a leader, right?
	She's looking at the long view.
	She's made her choice, right?
	You know the thing, the two elephants fight and the grass gets trampled, right?
	So we can't pick sides here.
	She's like, what are you, an idiot?
	She goes, if the two elephants fight, you want to be a tree.
	Right?
	So pick a side, right?
	And she said she's going to be on America's side because she believes in us.
	Her choice is America.
	Beautifully put.
	He's seen Oppenheimer.
	I haven't yet.
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	Let's put a photograph of it up there.
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	with a red dot sight on top of it.
	Let's have one more photograph of this weapon.
	Save the other two pictures for a moment, John.
	As you can see, it's a very svelte weapon, and I want to know more about it, what its origins are.
	I reviewed the HS2000 back in 1999, and I think it may have something to do with this weapon, but I don't know.
	Let's ask the man who knows from Springfield Armory, Mike Humphreys.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	I appreciate you having us on the show.
	Alright, so you'll tell us the backstory, why we need another high-capacity 9mm, but the first thing I will say is, dude, out of the box, this thing actually feels like a handgun, not a brick.
	Yeah, and it's got a huge mag capacity.
	Metal mags, not polymer mags.
	Thank you, Mike.
	Thank you, Steve.
	Thank you, everybody at Springfield for making a Wanda9 with a metal magazine.
	Thank you.
	But tell us the backstory to the Echelon.
	All right.
	Well, you kind of touched on the point there.
	There are a lot of striker-fired polymer-framed pistols out there, and it's really hard to be innovative in that market, because it would seem like everything's been done.
	You mentioned you'd reviewed the HS2000, which was the XD pistol.
	Well, the Echelon pistol from Springfield Armory represents our take on taking the now-established polymer-framed striker-fired pistol design into the future.
	We stepped back, we looked at the 20 or 30 years of development that's been put into these types of guns, and we said, How can we make this better?
	How can we refine it?
	How can we make it a better, more advanced gun?
	And how can we develop things that maybe innovations that people haven't even thought of yet?
	And I think that we have really accomplished it with this pistol.
	And you touched on it.
	You said as soon as you picked it up, you noticed immediately, didn't you?
	The handling characteristics of it.
	It's just, it's just, it's, it's for a double stack mag.
	It's staggered at the top.
	It's just slim.
	It's svelte.
	Um, and it just feels good.
	It does.
	It does.
	And this is a duty-style pistol.
	So it is technically a full-size pistol.
	It's a 17-round 9mm.
	It has a 4-inch barrel.
	I'm sorry, a 4.5-inch barrel.
	But when you pick the gun up, looking at pictures of it kind of indicates it.
	When you handle the gun, it's exactly like you said.
	It's very slim.
	It's very svelte.
	It's almost petite.
	It's very trim.
	And The core of the gun.
	There are so many cool things to talk about.
	Let's put one up that I just didn't realize when I picked it up.
	Let's put up the next thing.
	The internals.
	No, the next one.
	What is this?
	Tell me what you've got inside here.
	This looks like it's a modular firing system.
	It is.
	You headed exactly where I was heading.
	This is called the COG.
	It's the Central Operating Group, and it's the chassis system.
	It's the serialized part of the gun.
	So basically, the beauty of this is you can take this out of the grip module and put it into any other grip module, and that is the gun.
	So you can buy aftermarket grip modules with different textures, so on and so forth.
	And that That central operating group, in addition to being a centralized part, a serialized part, gives you that advantage.
	It also is just a very high-quality, rigid, with a very good consistent trigger pull.
	But does that mean you'll be making other sizes, other frame sizes?
	You know, don't give away any industrial secrets, but this is a service-sized weapon.
	I don't know if it's connected to the Croatian Army, but can we expect compact or subcompact?
	Currently, it is strictly a full-size gun, but with this COG system, that would be something that I would keep an eye out for because the modular nature of it makes it perfectly suited for that type of adaptation.
	All right, and one more thing that really caught my eye.
	Let's put this last photograph up.
	This is me having just unboxed this weapon.
	It comes in the box with an additional extended magazine for 20 rounds.
	Usually you have to pay extra, go online, buy the extended mags.
	How come you did this nice little Christmas, early Christmas treat of having an extended mag in the box?
	Well, we like to provide our customers with a lot of product for the money, and as you mentioned, unlike a lot of other famous polymer frame guns, this gun has a steel.
	It's actually a stainless steel magazine, and it comes with two 17-rounders, and it comes with that extended floor plate that you can turn one of those magazines into a 20-rounder, and it really does not stick out that far.
	It is a lot of capacity and a very handy, reasonably compact gun for being a full-size gun.
	Last question.
	I know the the Hellion bullpup that you released a while ago is based off the VHS Croatian service rifle.
	Is this related in any way to a service weapon in Europe?
	This is actually coming a bit differently.
	Like, so the Hellion was, as you said, adapted from the Croatian gun.
	The Echelon represents Springfield Armory working with the—our engineers working with HS Product to develop this gun for the American market, for the needs of the American shooter.
	Now, of course, it would have international appeal, but this is a very American-centric gun that was developed in tandem with them, with our guidance.
	And one last thing that would be remiss of me.
	I haven't fired it yet, but I tested dry fire the trigger pull.
	Very nice trigger pull with a very quick reset.
	If you know what I mean, you know what I mean.
	It's Springfield-Armory.com.
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	He's off.
	I know.
	Who's gonna buy one?
	I don't think that's a beginner gun.
	Oh, totally!
	Really?
	Yes!
	I mean, if you're a guy and you've got, you know, decent sized hands, absolutely.
	Totally.
	Okay, what have we not played?
	Oh, did we do the first Matt Gaetz?
	We didn't do the conspiracy theory.
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	We've got to squeeze that in.
	Alright.
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	There we go.
	We'll do Cut 9.
	Oh, come in with Cut 8.
	Copy that, come in with Cut 8 and you'll tip Cut 9.
	Yep.
	Elon's doing a Twitter space with Vivec now.
	Ohhhh!
	DeSantis campaigns like that.
	They're gonna be exploding.
	Oh, they're gonna be pissed.
	I forgot that Gates campaigned.
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	Go back to the first question of the briefing.
	I know you said not a lot's changed since yesterday and that it's a personal matter, but from a presidential perspective, is there any possibility that the president would end up pardoning his son?
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	I just answered.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	No, no.
	I just answered.
	Sorry.
	Move on.
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	I don't think she's having a lot of fun.
	Yeah, neither was Ken Cuccinelli with Matt Gaetz, who was hosting for Rob Schmidt tonight.
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	He got into a... Well, he asked a reasonable question of the Florida governor's chief surrogate, Ken Cuccinelli, and Ken didn't like it.
	Cut nine, play cut.
	I want to get to Never Back Down, the Super PAC, which controls around $200 million.
	You and Jeff Rowe, the chief strategist for it, have a lot to say about how that money is spent.
	Jeff Rowe, a big DeSantis supporter, also has another prominent Republican governor in his client base.
	That's Glenn Youngkin from your home state of Virginia.
	Can you commit tonight that none of the money from the Never Back Down Super PAC will be flipped to support the candidacy of Glenn Youngkin in the event that you guys don't see DeSantis as a good bet?
	You know, they didn't tell me they were bringing me on for your conspiracy theories.
	Look, this PAC is committed... That's a fair question.
	Are you going to use the money that way?
	No, it's not really.
	I mean, not with your 12 degrees of Kevin Bacon.
	We're committed... Wait a second, wait a second.
	You have the total control to be able to direct that money.
	You don't think it's a fair question to ask you where it's going?
	I'm answering it, aren't I?
	So it really doesn't matter if it's there.
	We're committed solely Mr. G, why was Cuccinelli so sensitive to that?
	It's a reasonable question.
	He's the head of the pack.
	Because, number one, it's clearly been talked about internally.
	Because of the way that he just fired off with the conspiracy theory.
	And I think there's a chance to anyway.
	I mean, these guys aren't stupid.
	If you're spending hundreds of millions of dollars and you're not getting anything out of it, you're not going to keep funding them.
	You're going to go somewhere else.
	So, do you believe the recent reports, if Ron really collapses, are they going to shift all that big, big bundle of money, big doughnut money behind Junkin?
	Well, I mean, really collapsing, we're not that far away from it.
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	Ehrman Holtz.
	The classic scene.
	Is he the coolest guy in this movie?
	An incredible ensemble cast.
	Let's ask the man who chose it.
	The man responsible for this week's pick in making movies again.
	The Alpha Critic.
	The host of the Mr. Reagan channel on YouTube.
	Chris Coles, how the devil are you?
	I'm doing fantastic, and I'm doing even better after having watched this pretty amazing film, I have to say.
	I sat down to, I mean, of course, I'll tell you the backstory for me in this film, and I'm so surprised you chose it, but I sat down to watch this again last night after my wife fell asleep, and I, you know, I plugged it in, and I saw this is like two hours, 40 minutes, and I thought, I've seen this movie, I swear, 50 times or 100 times because it would come on every Christmas or every summer bank holiday in the UK.
	As a kid I saw this at least once a year and it never struck me as a long movie and I sat down to watch it again and it's not a long movie!
	It flew by even though I'd seen it again and again and again.
	Let me just start before we get your take on why you chose it.
	A little quote from the time.
	This came out in 1960.
	What was this?
	1963?
	Yeah, 1963.
	The Time Review.
	Time magazine at the time said the following about this movie.
	With accurate casting, a swift screenplay, and authentic German settings, it was filmed in Bavaria, producer-director John Sturgis has created classic cinema of action.
	There is no sermonizing, no soul-probing, no sex.
	The great escape is simply Great escapism.
	That's what Time said back in the 60s.
	Why did you choose this movie, Chris?
	You know, actually, it's kind of a weird story.
	There's a show called The Grand Tour, which is a sort of a remake of Top Gear, you know, a show that you and I both love.
	And they did a special recently in which they actually went to the prison camp where this film took place.
	I haven't even seen that.
	I'm not even allowed to watch Grand Tour, the new Top Gear, unless my son is in town because we watch it together religiously.
	Because this is based on a real story.
	A book published in 1950 about the escape from Stalag Luft 3 which was a, you know, an aircrew prison of war camp.
	So are you telling me Jezzer, Captain Slow and the Hamster, they went to the actual original prison?
	Yeah, and it's the best part of this special because what's fascinating about it is that you realize after having watched this bit in, you know, in the grand tour, That this was kind of a resort prison.
	It was a prison.
	You weren't allowed to leave.
	But there was a lot of nice amenities.
	They wanted to keep the prisoners happy, mostly British, Russian prisoners there.
	They wanted to keep them happy because they didn't want them escaping.
	They didn't want them leaving.
	And at the time, Escape was kind of the duty of every soldier.
	They felt that it was their duty to waste the time and money of the Germans by trying to escape.
	And the Germans understood this game.
	And so nobody was really hostile toward each other about it.
	They weren't readily trying to just assassinate the prisoners.
	They were actually pretty nice to each other.
	And there were, you know, decent relationships between the prisoners and the prison guards and things like that.
	You know, the beginning of this film, I think people sometimes look back on it and they say, well, it's a little silly.
	It's a little campy at the beginning of the movie because they're all having fun and they're all kind of goofing off.
	I think that was probably more true to life than we might think.
	We were used to these days, all the World War II films being like Saving Private Ryan, being very dark, very gritty.
	But in reality, I think It wasn't always like that every moment of war.
	You know better than I do.
	You were a soldier.
	You are an expert in war.
	So you could speak to that much better than I could.
	But I do think there are times when you are kind of having a bit of fun, even if you are a prisoner of war.
	Well look, you make a very good point because both sides have prisoners of war.
	So if you're being inhuman to your prisoners of war, what's the expectation?
	When your guys get captured, perhaps there will be, you know, what goes around comes around.
	So does it make sense to be horrific?
	Yes, the Germans did bad things and many escapees were shot.
	They've taken some license with this story.
	In fact, the original Stalag escape was only British and Commonwealth and a few other nations.
	There weren't Americans coming out of every hole that was dug.
	So this has been a little bit romanticized.
	But let's remember that this is Stalag Luft.
	The original Stalag Luft, which means Air Force.
	So these were prison camps, not for, you know, the average grunt who was picked up on a battlefield.
	These are for the aircrew, the people who were shot down over Germany.
	And they were treated a little bit differently, but they did get parcels, a lot of the escape equipment, which they left out of the movie not to endanger future prisoners of war.
	A lot of the escape equipment was actually mailed to the prisoners by their relatives and got through.
	The actual, you know, the post office censors in Germany.
	So yeah, I think you're right.
	I think this has a light touch.
	And in fact, I forgot how much comedy there was in this movie.
	Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
	It's interesting because it's there's there's lighter moments.
	There's funny moments.
	There's fun moments.
	There are very dark moments are very serious moments.
	And there are very emotional moments.
	There is a character played by Blofeld himself who goes goes blind, goes He sort of takes him under his wing and he says, you're, you know, essentially my brother and I'm going to, you know, watch after you.
	And it's very touching, you know, and you get the sense that the men in war, in World War II, were in fact like this and they did develop these kinds of bonds.
	It's a very touching film as well as being very funny and a lot of fun as well.
	But one of the scenes when it started, I went, oh my gosh, I'm having a flashback, is exactly that scene.
	Donald Pleasance, who is one of my favorite actors, who plays the Forger, he's getting progressively more short-sighted, he can't do his job, and he rehearses Picking up a needle on the ground and he paces it out so he can fake to, you know, Big X, the organizer of the escape.
	No, no, I got no problem.
	I can see whatever you want me to see.
	And then Dickie Attenborough, the legendary actor and director, Dickie Attenborough, you know, trips him up, just puts his leg out and Donald Presidents falls right over and Garner says, I mean, what a cast.
	We're gonna have to talk about the cast in a second.
	Jim says, I don't care if he can't see.
	I'm gonna be his eyes and we're gonna escape together so it has these these truly poignant points and it has what we're showing right now the beginning is goofy I mean you know they're they're they're dressing up as laborers stealing you know people's silly hats and then hiding under the the pine branches on the back of a truck trying to escape and
	you know they get busted you got Coburn busted you've got you know Mr. Deathwish
	Bronson busted as well and it's a little bit jokey but it's it's a sublime
	concatenation it's a very nice cocktail mixture and to the very end to the
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	But I think it might rain later.
	No, no, no.
	Red sky in the morning, sailor takes warning.
	Red sky at night, sailors delight.
	It was a red sky last night.
	Never heard that before.
	I learned it in the Boy Scouts.
	You were a Boy Scout?
	So was I. Really?
	Yes, I had 19 married bachelors.
	I had 20.
	Oh, I was working on my 20th when the government abolished scouting and sent me into the Hitler Youth instead.
	Oh, the poor guy.
	There's the comedy, Fritz the Guard, who's made fun of, exploited by none other than the Rockford Files man himself, James Garner.
	The beginning of that scene, the thing that stuck in my mind, the Guard says to Garner, I'm not a well man.
	My teeth.
	My teeth hurt so badly.
	And, you know, it's just the way it's delivered.
	This is supposed to be the Nazi cam guard with the American-British pilot who's captured.
	Let's talk about this cast for a second.
	I even forgot, as I was watching the film unopened, that people like Garner were in this movie.
	So we've got... Who've we got here?
	We've got James Coburn.
	We've got, in like Flint, doing the worst Australian accent known to man, Charles Bronson.
	No, seriously, I mean, I thought it was a joke.
	I thought he was taking the piss, but no, he said, I'm actually an Australian.
	I didn't even know he was Australian for most of it, until I heard the kangaroo joke, and I'm like, oh, OK, I guess he's Australian.
	And then we have Charles Bronson pretending to be Polish.
	A little bit better, a little bit better.
	I mean, his family is from that part of the world.
	Dickie Attenborough playing Big X, the mastermind of it all, who was actually in the Air Force and actually fought in World War II.
	We've got Gordon Jackson, the Scotsman, a supreme character actor from downstairs, downstairs.
	He was from a TV show I grew up with called CI5 about special agents.
	James Garner, who served in Korea.
	David McCallum as the fix-it man from the man from... on and on and on.
	And of course, The one, the only, Mr. Motorbike Steve McQueen.
	At the time they said in the reviews that McQueen stole the show.
	Do you agree?
	Tell us a little bit about the acting and the cast we have assembled here.
	I don't think he stole the show.
	I'll say, you know, when I was a boy, I didn't know who Steve McQueen was.
	I thought that character was a cool character.
	I liked the character, but I didn't have any sense that Steve McQueen was like this This cool, you know, actor from the 60s.
	I just thought he was one of the cast to play this part well.
	And, you know, he was when I was a kid.
	I don't know why, but I vaguely remember.
	You know, I remember the motorcycle scene toward the end where he gets trapped in the barbed wire.
	For whatever reason, I thought he was executed in the barbed wire.
	I remember that as kind of a horrific moment in my childhood, but he wasn't executed.
	Actually, he does live in the end.
	Spoiler alert, a lot of the characters in this film are killed.
	Uh, and it is a little bit, you know, it's a little bit of a sad ending.
	Some of them do escape, including James Coburn, who is actually my least favorite of these actors.
	In general?
	I don't know why I'm- Oh, come on.
	Agent Flint?
	Yeah.
	Well, I also saw it like Flint when I was young.
	And me and my brother just thought it was the funniest thing that we'd ever seen in our lives because it was obviously trying to be an American style James Bond and failing miserably.
	And we just thought it was hilarious.
	But yeah, James Coburn always to me seemed like he He was trying to be more cool than he naturally was.
	Well, it's hard to be cool when you're that lanky.
	I mean, he looks like the scarecrow from The Wizard of Oz.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	I mean, so he lives in the end.
	And I always thought, like, couldn't you have had one of my what are the other actors that I like better live?
	You know, obviously, Richard Attenborough went on to establish Jurassic Park.
	So he he makes it looks like he dies in the film, but actually he goes on later and he establishes Jurassic Park.
	Guys, if you don't realize, he plays Hammond in Jurassic Park.
	It's the same actor with a beard and no scar, but that is the same actor, Dickie Attenborough.
	Just a phenomenal cast.
	At the time, I think it was recognized as a phenomenal cast.
	I don't think that Steve McQueen stole the show, but he is definitely a fantastic character.
	The film opens and closes with the same shot of him throwing a baseball against the wall of the cooler, right?
	Which is solitary confinement.
	Because he's the cooler king.
	He's the cooler king.
	He's always getting caught and putting the cooler.
	And he is.
	He's just cool.
	And the Scotsman, that's his good friend.
	That's a very sad moment in the film.
	Oh, by the way, we can't play tribute to everybody from the real story, but Ives the mole.
	Who digs out with Steve McQueen to do the recce, that's based on a real character called Jimmy Kiddell, who was actually killed by the Nazis while escaping.
	So, you know, they take license with a lot of the story, the original book by Paul Brickhill, which was published in 1950, but a lot of these characters are based on real individuals or, you know this, you're a writer, you're an actor, they're amalgams of numerous real people.
	And that's what you have to do for a film, just because there's not enough time to tell all the stories of all the
	characters.
	It would be too confusing.
	They really only have one prison guard that they interact with, that James Garner interacts with.
	But in real life, they would have had several guards that they would have bribed or become friends with and gotten
	certain things from and stuff like that.
	They weren't all these dopey, silly characters.
	Many of them, I think, were just reasonable people that they would... they struck up friendships with.
	I mean, you're in the prison there every day, all day with these people.
	So this, you know, eventually they're going to be friends with some of them.
	This scene really gets to you as a kid.
	When you watch this, when you see the mole, who's just, as he said, he went wire happy.
	He's just tried so many times to escape so many times failed.
	And he just walks towards the death wire.
	He, he, he cracks.
	He has a mental break and he just climbs up the fence and he gets mowed down by the Nazis.
	So that's based on a real character, Jimmy Cadillac.
	Likewise, let's just do a hat tip to the individual who the Big X was based upon.
	We have a picture of this individual.
	Dickie Attenborough plays Roger Buchel.
	Roger Buchel, here he is in his Royal Air Force uniform shortly before his capture, was born in South Africa but a British Air Force officer and he's, you know, he is the Big X, the mastermind behind the Stalag 3 escape of the original story that Richard Attenborough depicted in this movie.
	So, you know, this isn't just Hollywood, this isn't just fantasy, and the thing that's shocking, let's remember, This is 63.
	It's less than 20 years after, you know, we liberated Auschwitz.
	We liberated Birkenau.
	This is in, you know, very much in living memory.
	And some of these people are veterans of World War II.
	Not only that, this was filmed in Germany, in Bavaria.
	So they went back to Germany.
	To rebuild the Stalag and to film the movie.
	It is, of course, the great escape and undoubted classic.
	If you haven't seen it in a while, it pays watching again and again and again.
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	It wasn't just Napoleon's solo, it was his Soviet accomplice, Ilya Kudyakin, David McCallum!
	I love this scene.
	This is so flooding back memories from my childhood.
	How are they?
	They're digging three massive tunnels, Tom, Dick and Harry.
	How the flip are they going to get rid of the dirt they're digging up?
	And good old David, he's got a plan.
	You fill these bags with the dirt from the tunnel.
	Then, wearing them inside your trousers, you wander out into the compound where You pull these strings in your pockets.
	Out come the pins.
	Eric, it's good.
	All you have to do is kick it in.
	Then comes the montage of the prisoners singing Christmas carols as they're letting the dirt out from under their trousers, walking into the quote-unquote prisoner's garden and dumping the earth.
	You don't need lots of special effects.
	I love that scene.
	How simple, how ingenious is that?
	Yeah, and there's so much of this film.
	I mean, we think of these films as embellishments of the truth.
	This story was so dang good that you didn't really have to embellish it.
	It's pretty much straightforward, the story of what actually happened there in the prison camp.
	And, you know, up until this point, I think a lot of the World War II films that had come out were about the action of World War II, right?
	It was about gunfire and, you know, being in the trenches.
	This was about an escape.
	This is really not a war movie.
	It's a prison escape movie, really.
	And that hadn't really been done before, as far as I can remember.
	I can't think of anything earlier than this.
	So this was kind of an unusual idea.
	Let's not make it about, you know, shooting Germans.
	Let's make it about escaping from a prison.
	And the plan that they hatched And the fact that the Germans found one of the tunnels and then there's a twist toward the end where they didn't quite make it to the woods and they just have to make a run for it and not all of them made it.
	I mean, there's so many twists and turns to the real life story that you just don't even need to embellish.
	It was just that good.
	Now, some of the reviews of the time, they say that it's too thin in terms of characterization.
	I kind of get that criticism, but you're not, with an ensemble cast this big, you cannot have character arcs for like 12 different people, and I don't think it undermines the enjoyability of the film.
	What's your response to that one criticism that's floating out there still?
	You know, critics and people in Hollywood as well, producers and other kinds of folks that don't really know how to write properly or don't know what makes a good film, they tend to stick to this paint-by-the-numbers type template.
	And they say, oh, did it fulfill this rule?
	Did it fulfill this rule?
	Did it fulfill this rule?
	You know what I mean?
	And with an ensemble cast, like you said, with an ensemble cast, it is often difficult to create strong character arcs for all of these different characters.
	But, you know, by the end of this film, you really love these characters.
	You really care about these characters.
	The characters who are executed, you genuinely are shocked by their execution.
	Yes.
	You know, and the characters that escape, you're genuinely cheering for their escape, you know?
	I think that that's completely a baseless criticism.
	You have to really think about what this film is and how well it was executed.
	Especially considering, like you said, there are just so many characters.
	and you love all of them by the end of it.
	Yeah, that's such a good point.
	That kind of kills the lack of depth, lack of characterization critique,
	because my gosh, the last half an hour, when Gordon Jackson's getting on the bus
	with Dickie Attenborough, he's speaking French to the Gestapo guy interrogating him,
	and he screws up when the guy says, good luck in English, and Gordon Jackson replies,
	thank you, and then boom, and the expression on his face, and then Dickie being chased through the town
	and finally rammed up against a door.
	Uh, you, you...
	You are.
	You're right there.
	You feel it and you think, oh my gosh.
	That's characterization.
	That's the mark of characterization where you can identify with and they can get an emotional reaction out of you.
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	Now Chris, it's hard to have favorites, but he did play Blofeld.
	He was, of course, the doctor trying to kill Michael in the Halloween movies.
	So Donald Pleasance, for me, is the standout here.
	Let's play a little cut from the man who forged the documents for these 250 people trying to escape from that prisoner of war camp.
	Which one's the forgery?
	They're one.
	No, that's right.
	They both are.
	They both are!
	I tricked you!
	They're both forgeries.
	That's Donald Presence, the man who loses his sight and has to be looked after by James Garner until they escape and then they crash their plane.
	And he is killed in cold blood.
	Donald Pleasence, I mean, this is the range of actors we have.
	He's the nerd, he's the weak guy, he's the frail guy.
	On the other extreme, you've got Steve McQueen.
	Steve McQueen, who by the way, I gotta push back on you.
	Here's the standout in terms of coolness, because, you know, how is Steve dressed?
	He's got drainpipe trousers.
	They didn't have drainpipe trousers in 1944.
	He's wearing, you know, the skinny pants of the 1960s.
	He's got the sweatshirt.
	He's got the cool leather jacket.
	He's got the baseball glove as well.
	This guy is the epitome.
	And then, of course, what do we have?
	This is the thing.
	If you remember anything from this movie, It's Steve McQueen on his motorbike doing that double jump through the barbed wire, right?
	This is the iconic moment, isn't it, Chris?
	Oh, heck yeah.
	I mean, I always wanted that motorcycle.
	I mean, just because of this movie, Steve McQueen on that motorcycle.
	And honestly, I was never into motorbikes when I was a kid.
	We did ride dirt bikes a lot and stuff when I was growing up because I grew up in Oregon.
	But I never really wanted a Harley.
	I never really wanted the same kind of motorcycle, you know, street bike that, you know, that maybe some other people had or that was considered cool.
	But I wanted that motorcycle.
	I wanted Steve McQueen's motorcycle in this movie.
	Let's put the motorcycle up on the screen.
	It's not even a flipping German motorcycle.
	They took a try.
	Oh, it's not?
	I didn't know that.
	No, it's a Triumph TR6, the trophy model motorbike that they simply repainted and took off all the Triumph badges and painted it in German colors.
	And by the way, just for the record, the original TR6 trophy motorbike is still at the Triumph factory in Hinkley in the UK.
	So it's still around.
	Don't know how much it would be worth if somebody put it on eBay today.
	And for the record, It's not actually Steve McQueen who performs the jump across the barbed wire.
	It was his buddy, Bud Ekins, the stunt driver.
	But, of course, because it's Steve McQueen, he did it anyway off-camera.
	He said, I don't care what the insurance company says.
	So Steve McQueen decides to do the jump anyway.
	The cameras weren't rolling.
	He probably had a pair of jeans on and his sweatshirt.
	And then on camera, they had Bart Ekins doing it for the actual camera.
	An iconic moment.
	All right, what else do we need to note about this movie?
	And then we'll get to the last comments from Chris.
	And then we've got to rate the movie.
	Who is the director, the producer?
	This is, of course, Sturgis, a legendary individual.
	Let's just note a couple of other things John made.
	John Sturgis, another classic from my childhood, Ice Station Zebra with Rock Hunson.
	Cold War thriller on the North Pole.
	Then we have The Magnificent Seven and The Eagle Has Landed.
	Chris, if you look at this guy's filmography online, I was in bed last night with Katie and I just said, watch this, and I flicked my phone and it was like 60 movies this guy made.
	They don't make people like this.
	I mean, you've made The Magnificent Seven, The Eagle Has Landed, Ice Station Zebra, The Great Escape, and about 50 other movies.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, no.
	The guy was a powerhouse.
	And the score, we can't forget the score.
	It's an iconic score.
	It's been used in several other films subsequently.
	You know, it's legendary.
	I think The Magnificent Seven, I think is one of the, probably the coolest films I've ever seen.
	And it shares a lot of the cast with this film.
	Magnificent Seven, That's the first film I saw that I thought, wow, these guys are the epitome of cool.
	Like if you want to learn how to be cool, like if you're a teenager or something, or if you have a grandson or a nephew or something, and you want to teach them to be cool, just have them watch The Magnificent Seven like 20 times and be like, just copy these guys.
	Your favorite person in The Magnificent Seven?
	Oh gosh, that's tough.
	You know, that's, oh my gosh.
	I don't know.
	Who's yours?
	What's yours?
	I love Yul Brynner.
	Yul Brynner?
	Yeah.
	My dad was pretty bald, and any hard, tough guy who was bald, who reminded me of my dad, Yul Brynner is right up there.
	But yeah, yeah.
	I'm gonna go with him.
	All right.
	What else do we have to note?
	Oh, here's an interesting little tidbit, just for the record.
	In 2009, Seven of the prisoners of war returned to Stalag Luft 3 for the 65th anniversary of their escape.
	And what did they do there, Chris?
	They had a showing of the movie in Stalag Luft 3 for the survivors.
	According to the veterans, this is a direct quote, Many details of the first half of the life in the camp, the things you were talking about, were truly authentic, including the death of Ives, who tried to scale the fence, and the actual way that they dig the tunnels.
	Those are from the survivors who went back to Stalag Luft 3, where they were shown the movie.
	What else?
	The music, absolutely.
	We actually use the music quite often here on America First.
	It's Elmer Bernstein.
	When it comes to... It's hilarious now, Chris.
	This film cost the whopping amount of 3.8 million dollars to make.
	Can you imagine?
	With all the ensemble cast they had to pay, I mean the likes of McQueen, Bronson, Attenborough, it was less than four million and it was one of the highest grossing movies of the time and it made a huge, wait for it, sit down Chris, 11.7 million dollars.
	Well, I mean, at the time that was worth more than it is now.
	I think with Biden's inflation, that's worth like $17 billion at this point, isn't it?
	Something like that?
	It's close to that.
	I think it's a Googleplex.
	It's a Googleplex.
	Last little factual thing from me in my past life in the British Army, where in the reserves I was actually, my MOS was I was an interrogator.
	and we we trained especially our special forces guys how how to behave and how to resist interrogation so we'd work with the SAS and the others and especially our fighter pilots uh and we'd simulate their capture and we put them in stress positions and stuff like that um what you hear this iconic moment at the beginning when he's talking to the camp commandant the the officer with the limp says well it's our sworn duty it's part of the code we've got to escape Not actually true.
	Nowhere in the King's Code is that a fact.
	It's not part of the British or American Army's requirements.
	The only thing that is...
	Specifically detailed is the Geneva Conventions.
	The only thing you are allowed to give your captors is your name, your rank, and your serial number.
	If you want to escape, good on ya!
	We're talking The Great Escape with Chris Coles.
	He's the host of The Alpha Critic and the Mr Reagan Channels.
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	And...
	It's slapstick!
	It's a pratfall!
	In a movie?
	About prisoners escaping from a Nazi camp?
	Yeah, and that's why it works.
	Steve McQueen is taking all the bed slats out of the bed so they can shore up the tunnels.
	And as he's singing a Christmas carol, one of the Air Force guys jumps on his bed and falls through the whole bed.
	Talking of Christmas, this was of course a staple in our home when I was a kid and reruns.
	One last quote and then we'll get to your final thoughts and we've got to pick a next movie and we've got to rate this one.
	In 2006, a poll in the United Kingdom regarding the family film that television viewers most wanted to see on Christmas Day, The Great Escape, came third of all movies ever made.
	And amongst male viewers, I wonder why, it was number one, Chris.
	Yeah, I mean, that makes sense.
	You know, it's interesting, in the UK, watching movies at Christmas is pretty common.
	Yeah.
	I don't think that's as common in America.
	I didn't grow up with that.
	That was something I learned when I was living in the UK.
	Well, not only that, you're absolutely right.
	We have the bank holiday tradition.
	So we have these, you get a Monday off for a bank holiday, they're called.
	And the movie, the rerun that BBC would show on a bank holiday was a big deal.
	What are they gonna choose this year?
	What's gonna be the bank holiday movie?
	And it would be a family event!
	You know, you'd sit down... Right, yeah, yeah, so it became a tradition over there.
	Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
	Maybe something we should reinvigorate in Western civilization.
	The family that eats together stays together.
	The family that watches great movies together may also be the next metric.
	Alright, buddy, final thoughts and rating for The Great Escape?
	You know, this is one of the greatest movies of all time.
	I think it's a little bit forgotten in this day and age, because it is from the 60s.
	But there are so many great classics from that era.
	People think of Casablanca, of course.
	There are certain films that people think of as classics.
	I do think this one gets a little bit forgotten and underrated, but it's an excellent film.
	Part of the reason, I think, is because, like some other films that we've talked about on this show, It established a lot of things for a particular genre.
	So there's a lot of things that you'll see in this film that maybe you've seen a hundred times before,
	but they were originated maybe with this film.
	I think one of the actors that gets a bit underrated for this film specifically is James Garner.
	If you've seen the Rockford Files or if you've seen Maverick, Maverick is one of my favorite shows of all time.
	He's a little better utilized in those movies, or in those TV shows.
	He's very, very funny.
	And in this film, he's got a great character, but maybe he's not quite as funny.
	I think he's a bit underrated.
	But you're probably right that Steve McQueen is definitely the coolest character in the film.
	And I just think it's something that everybody should see.
	Now, I don't know if it's something that people today, if they don't know much about The Great Escape, if they're going to love it as much as some of the other films that we've rated on this show.
	It's not something like a James Bond that's quite so timeless.
	You do get a sense of the era.
	This is very much a 60s movie.
	But it doesn't spoil the enjoyment.
	Oh, absolutely not.
	Because it's set in another time, right?
	Set in the 40s.
	I think it does make it a little bit more timeless in the sense that it's just a historical film, right?
	And it's absolutely enjoyable.
	To me, it's one of my favorite films that we've watched.
	And like you said, it's a long film, but it doesn't feel like a long film.
	It just goes like that.
	It's so dynamic, so interesting.
	You love all the characters, as we've mentioned before.
	And I'm going to give it... What are we going to rate this out of?
	So we're rating it out of 10 bed slats, okay?
	Bed slats, okay.
	Bed slats.
	Or baseballs, you can choose.
	I don't know if you're a baseball guy.
	And reminding all of our viewers and listeners Chris's challenge is to give it a rating out of 10 for an audience today.
	My rating is in the universe of great movies.
	So Chris, how many bed slats or baseballs do you give The Great Escape out of 10 for today's movie-going audience?
	You know, on a personal level, this movie's a 10 out of 10.
	I absolutely love it.
	But in terms of how a modern audience may perceive this film, I won't do bedslides, I'll do Steve McQueen baseball since I played baseball as a lad myself.
	I'll give it 8 out of 10 Steve McQueen baseballs.
	8?
	Alright, I like it.
	I could do cricket balls because it was about the RAF as well.
	That's true.
	I will stick with baseballs being thrown against the cooler wall repeatedly as the cooler king Steve McQueen catches them.
	And in the panoply of all movies, you know, it's just so...
	Iconic and really made in 63 but also as a movie timeless I'm gonna have to go for nine and a half.
	Wow.
	Is that fair?
	I concur.
	Oh, that's absolutely fair.
	Yeah.
	Good.
	Everybody should watch this film at least once in their lifetime, I think.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Now I've bought it.
	It's on my phone.
	When I've got a long flight, I'll be watching this.
	All right.
	That was super fun.
	I'm so glad you took us out of our usual comfort zone.
	You went a slightly earlier than we usually pick our movies.
	Now it's my turn.
	I'm going to do another war movie, but it's going to be a cold war movie.
	Are you ready to do a little bit of Tom Clancy, Chris?
	I think I know where we're going with this.
	We're gonna go with the greatest Soviet submarine captain with a Scottish accent.
	It is the hunt for Red October next week.
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