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July 5, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Biden is a traitor

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	the Yeah, but who'd beaten that just a few days previously?
	What was it? A bag of suspicious white powder believed to be cocaine was found in an area except
	Accessible rather to tour groups and the president and his family were out of town at the time
	Yeah, but who'd beaten that just a few days previously somebody who likes
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	Yes it's true, although the way it's being reported is false, that cocaine was found
	in the White House.
	Even Fox has a chiron saying it was found in a highly trafficked part of the building.
	No, it's a lie.
	It was found in the actual library of the residence.
	Which I was in once.
	Once.
	And I worked in the White House, okay?
	And it's when President Trump took me there!
	When he invited me for dinner with a couple of my Fox News colleagues.
	It's a lie.
	But why would they wish to spin that?
	That it's in a highly trafficked part of the residence?
	There is no such thing as a highly trafficked part of the President's residence.
	Because, uh... Who's been hanging out a lot?
	In the White House?
	A man who's been in the news a lot for, um...
	Well, you know, his hobbies.
	Getting strippers pregnant, driving his Porsche at 170 miles an hour while he's making videos of himself, having sex with Russian prostitutes, and smoking a crack pipe.
	Hunter Biden.
	And of course, shock of shocks, it's that flipping British newspaper again.
	The Daily Mail.
	It's not even Breitbart.
	It's not even Newsmax.
	It's not even The Federalist.
	It's not even the Daily Wire or Daily Caller.
	It's the Daily Mail that gets what?
	The radio traffic!
	Between the White House and the fire department that had to send in a hazmat team because they didn't know what that white powder in the White House was.
	White powder in the White House.
	Was it anthrax?
	They had to check it.
	And what did they find out?
	Let's just listen to the actual hazmat team confirming what that white powder was.
	Cut 6.
	Repeat, I didn't copy your results on the Gemini.
	Gemini's results are hazmat found.
	With a red bar, no match found in the library.
	We'll go ahead and come on out.
	We have a result on the Gemini.
	We have a yellow bar stating cocaine, hydrochloride.
	Task number 5-3, task 2-1, task 4.
	It's like a litmus test, like a pregnancy test.
	They're waiting for the bars to appear on the chemical test and say, yep, we've got a yellow bar.
	It's cocaine hydrochloride.
	That's actually the hazmat team confirming that they found not anthrax, but cocaine.
	Not parmesan, but cocaine in the White House.
	All right, we will keep you updated on that story.
	Right now, a press conference is being held by Karine Jean-Pierre, trying to deflect the issue.
	But let's talk about the real news of the day.
	Of consequence, we know Hunter Biden is a reprobate, but this story, wow.
	A federal judge Judge Terry Doherty of the U.S.
	District Court for the Western District of Louisiana has issued a 130-page ruling.
	That's big.
	Let me read to you from our friends at the Epoch Times.
	This is Tom Ozimek.
	The federal judge has made a historic ruling by partially granting an injunction that blocks various Biden administration officials and government agencies such as the Justice Department and the FBI from working with big tech firms to censor posts on social media.
	Yeah, finally.
	A judge, of course a Trump-appointed judge, has said, no, you can't outsource government censorship to your buddies in Palo Alto in Silicon Valley.
	The injunction came in response to a censorship by proxy lawsuit brought by attorneys general in Louisiana and Missouri who have accused the Biden administration officials and the various government agencies of pressuring social media companies to suspend accounts or take down posts.
	Judge Terry A. Doherty of the U.S.
	District Court for the Western District of Louisiana wrote the July 4th ruling As follows, various government agencies, including CISA, this is the ominous DHS censorship entity, the Cyber Security and Infrastructure Agency, the Department of Homeland Security, the U.S.
	State Department, Department of Justice, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are prohibited from taking a range of actions regarding social media companies.
	Specifically, The agencies and their staff members are prohibited from meeting with or contacting by phone, email or text message or, quote, engaging in any communication of any kind with social media companies, urging, encouraging, pressuring or inducing in any manner for removal, deletion, suppression or reduction of content containing protected free speech, quote.
	from the injunction.
	The agencies are also barred from flagging content on posts on social media platforms and forwarding them to the companies with requests for action such as removing or otherwise suppressing their reach.
	This is huge.
	This is big.
	I know it's a temporary injunction, but it's a great sign.
	Judge Doherty wrote in the decision that the Republican attorneys general who sued the Biden administration, quote, have produced evidence of a massive effort by defendants from the White House to federal agencies to suppress speech based on its content.
	He terms this, we should remember this and use it, suppression by proxy.
	This was a suppression by proxy scheme.
	Another quote from the judge in his 130-page decision.
	Opposition to COVID-19 vaccines.
	Opposition to COVID-19 masking and lockdowns.
	Opposition to the lab leak theory of COVID-19.
	Opposition to the validity of the 2020 election.
	Opposition to President Biden's policies.
	Statements that Hunter Biden's laptop story were true.
	And opposition to policies of the government officials in power.
	All were suppressed.
	Yeah, we've been living it.
	Thank you, Judge Dougherty.
	We've been living it for the last two years plus.
	However, and of course there's always a however, the judge did make some exceptions in his order allowing government officials to contact social media companies to alert them of criminal activity or threats to national security.
	Eric, What does that mean?
	That, however, what is the Biden administration going to do next?
	They're going to ultimately cite that part of the ruling to say like, oh, under this part of your ruling, we're allowed to continue censoring people.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Asking about masking children is going to be a threat to national security, right?
	You know that's next, right, Eric?
	Of course.
	Anything they disagree with is a threat to national security.
	Right.
	So look, it's a big start.
	But we know that they will define everything as a national security threat.
	Even stories about Hunter Biden's parmesan cheese in the library in the White House.
	But at least we found a judge!
	We found a brave judge in America!
	I'll be posting it in the break.
	Read the story.
	Share the story.
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	Welcome, everybody.
	Greetings.
	Alright, want me to dial her up now?
	Yeah, please.
	Alrighty.
	Should still be in there.
	Yeah, it's there.
	Alright.
	Skype channel one.
	ring a ding ding ringing at the far end
	Thank you.
	Three minutes.
	Hmm.
	Hey Natalie, how's it going?
	Hi, good, how are you?
	Doing good, thanks for asking.
	You're always in a different location every time.
	Are you on the run?
	Are you on the run from the CCP?
	I'm actually, I'm in DC, I'm just using a different angle.
	Okay, good, alright.
	Shake it up a bit.
	All about the angles, you know that.
	All about the angles.
	How you doing?
	I'm doing well, I actually just got a puppy.
	Oh, what kind?
	A mini Australian Shepherd.
	Oh, what is it with these mini things?
	Get a bloody dog if you want to buy a dog.
	None of these genetically engineered little fake dogs.
	I know, a GMO dog.
	Well, he's really cute, and his name is Jefferson.
	Where is he?
	Show me Jefferson.
	Where's Jefferson?
	Can I go get him?
	Yeah!
	Australian Shepherds are pretty great.
	We had one when I was little.
	Where did you escape to?
	Hello!
	Two minutes.
	Wow.
	Put it back on the screen, I wanna see it.
	Okay, you're about to meet Dr. Gorka!
	See ya.
	Oh, look at that little pupper!
	Oh, he's not that mini.
	He's not that mini.
	He's not like tiny.
	They make tiny Australian Shepherds, too.
	How old is he?
	He's seven months.
	Aw, what a cutie.
	So where's he been for the last seven months?
	On a horse farm in Maryland.
	So I felt bad taking him, because I was like, I'd rather live there.
	Yeah.
	He looks a bit nervous.
	Does he not like pretty women?
	What's his problem?
	I don't know.
	Maybe he's gay.
	No.
	You've got a gay Australian dog?
	That's a problem.
	No!
	No!
	Look at his little face.
	He's just very calm.
	Maybe he doesn't like being on television.
	Jefferson, get with the program.
	Are you camera shy?
	You're Natalie's dog.
	This is a big show.
	I know, you're famous.
	You gotta be media savvy, dude.
	Come on.
	50 seconds, by the way.
	He hates China.
	Oh, okay.
	Which is the most important.
	Alright.
	Even Australia.
	Hold him in your lap.
	No, no, hold him in your lap and we'll introduce you as Jefferson and then you can let him go, alright?
	Okay, yay!
	See, I'm famous.
	He looks a bit sleepy.
	Is he sleepy?
	He was napping, but he'll have to adjust his sleep schedule to your show.
	Sorry to wake you, Jefferson.
	Want to come in with something, or no?
	I don't think so.
	Actually, come in with the hazmat audio again, and then I'll pot it out near the end.
	Okay, cut six, no liner.
	You'll bot it down in 10 seconds. And PhD. Yep.
	To repeat, I didn't copy results on the Gemini.
	Gemini's results are a name match found with a red bar.
	Name match found in the library.
	Go ahead and come on up.
	We have a...
	Resolve in the Gemini.
	We have a yellow bar stating Cotain. Hydrochloride.
	Alright, that's it.
	The Gemini chemical testing equipment for the hazmat team said, yep, we've got cocaine in the library of the residents at the White House.
	Sheer insanity.
	We will discuss with our next guest, a surprise guest here in America first.
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	All right, now to analyze the breaking news from the White House.
	All the way from Australia, it's Jefferson!
	Who is he talking about?
	Put him on screen!
	Hello Jefferson!
	It's Natalie!
	Natalie Winters, you've got a new guest!
	Who is in your lap?
	The newest addition to my family.
	This is Jefferson, who's falling asleep, but he really likes your, actually he likes relief factor of all the things.
	But he knows which promo coat to use for my pillow as well.
	What kind of a cute dog?
	For the dog beds.
	Oh, the dog beds.
	We'll get him a dog bed.
	What kind of breed is Jefferson?
	Well, I know you don't like the GMO dogs that are modified, but he is a mini Australian Shepherd.
	But he's not that mini.
	Yeah, relax guys.
	It's not one of these little handbag dogs.
	It's actually a decent sized dog.
	But man, he is so sleepy.
	I thought Australian Shepherds were supposed to be hyper.
	Let that poor dog get back to his napping.
	We've got work to do.
	See you, Jefferson.
	Had to show him to all of our listeners and viewers across the nation.
	War Room got to see him, so that's big.
	Oh, yeah.
	All right.
	Well, we're almost as famous as War Room.
	Let's talk about this story.
	I just don't know where to begin.
	I mean, do we laugh?
	Do we say, well, of course they found Hunter Biden's cocaine stash in the private library.
	Your reaction to this incredible story, Natalie?
	Well, I think that's really the strapline of the Biden regime, where you find yourself just saying, really?
	Could they really do that?
	I can't believe it.
	But then you pause, take a step back, and you say, actually, 110%, I totally can.
	And frankly, I think it's important, though, to contextualize all of the sort of degeneracy that goes on in the Biden White House.
	Because while those are great headlines and it's important to focus on that stuff, You know, it sort of distracts from really the bigger issue, which as horrible as this cocaine stuff is going on, I think it really is interesting that you see the media now paying more attention to sort of
	The, I would say, headline, the shock news stories going on within the Biden White House, right?
	Hunter Biden driving 172 miles per hour, sort of as the walls are closing in, or at least there's more interest and more appetite into going after him on actual crimes that have to do with national security and tax evasion, and really national security and giving and taking money from the Chinese Communist Party.
	So I love diving into these stories, but I think we need to like contextualize them in the bigger sphere.
	And understand that we are at a point where finding cocaine in the White House is probably the least offensive thing that the Biden regime can do.
	We'll talk about the bigger picture aspects of all of this.
	You know, the stuff that really matters.
	China and, you know, buying policy changes through the Biden corruption and the crime syndicate that is the Biden family.
	But, you know, you've been covering this for a long time now.
	You're co-host of Steve's show.
	I don't want to read too much into last week and the week before, but I think it's...
	It's unusual, at least, thanks to James Rosen, my Newsmax colleague, who first reads out the WhatsApp text in the press briefing in front of Kirby.
	Kirby has such a fit, he actually leaves the podium.
	But the fact that the same day, CNN also reads the WhatsApp text about his daddy and him extorting money out of his Chinese government associates.
	Is something changing?
	Does it mean anything?
	Because one half of me says it's a big deal and the other half says, but the corporate media are always going to shill for the DNC, so it's just a kind of anomaly.
	Where do you stand on the last two weeks and the stories actually having a little bit of residence in the corporate media?
	Sure.
	Well, this story is very interesting, and I've sort of used it as a litmus test for, I think, where the media establishment, but more broadly, the Democratic Party and just the political establishment stands on the Biden family, another potential term for President Joe Biden.
	And I always said, and Rahim and I, when we were digging through the hard drive, we always sort of joked between the two of us saying, you know, the work that we're doing right now, unearthing all the scandals, This is going to be used eventually to impeach Joe Biden should the political establishment decide that they no longer want him to run for a second term.
	Obviously, he's not in control, but just for an optics perspective.
	And I think when you see the media occasionally every now and then start to embrace this story, I think that's when you see really the internal conflict, the internal struggle going on, either at the DNC, but just more broadly, the political establishment, I think, saying, we don't want another term of Joe Biden.
	And I think this is, believe me, there are many cudgels that they could use against Joe Biden.
	Hunter Biden, I would say, is probably the largest Achilles heel, but he does have a lot of Achilles heels.
	And I think when you see the media embrace it, that's how you know they're not too pleased with the activities going on.
	Like I said, cocaine withstanding.
	But what does your barometer, what does your internal Geiger counter tell you?
	How close is the Democrat establishment to saying, okay, this is it.
	We can't win with him.
	We throw Joe under the bus.
	Can you sense what the degree is?
	I don't think they're there yet.
	Again, using the media as a litmus test, I think for us average people, that's the best kind of insight we have into that establishment world.
	And you know better than anyone, when the establishment wants to make a story out of something, start a narrative, even if it's true or untrue, they have the power to do that.
	And when you see it just sort of trickle through occasional stories, I don't think that has the full force of the corporate backed media and establishment behind them.
	I think that's just a little bit.
	I think we've seen other issues where the media starts to really do a 180.
	In this case, it might be like a 180 to several 180s, right?
	But until, you know, I think honestly, until you see this, I will put, I will wager this on your show, until you see the people from that 51, that cohort of 51 Intel community officers, Who signed that letter come out and start to renege on what
	they signed and read their statements I think that will be the sign
	She thinks we're all average I don't think she's average.
	I don't think I'm average.
	I don't think our listeners are average.
	I'm making fun of you so you can be quiet now.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	We're talking to Natalie Winters.
	We'll be back with her in a moment.
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	But I want one, but shouldn't Steve get me one?
	No, Steve is useless.
	I know.
	Text me your shipping address and I'll have one wending it on your way to you imminently.
	Thank you!
	So what is he, like 30 pounds?
	How big is he?
	Not even.
	He's probably a little under 30.
	Alright, I'll get him the medium-sized one.
	Kill the mic for a second.
	I'm going to be doing a lot of work on this.
	If that's what it takes to make Natalie happy, we can do a little bit of misogyny.
	Peace.
	Well, I was just saying, I'm not a feminist.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	So, you know, I don't really think, oh, he's a misogynist.
	Got it.
	Alright, let's talk about... One minute.
	I don't know, stuff.
	Let's talk about dogs.
	My pillow.
	My pillow.
	Got a title in mind for that monologue?
	Uh, monologue, uh... You talked to the cocaine, but you also talked to the... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	This is a great show.
	Dogs, cocaine, my pillow.
	Dogs, cocaine, my pillow, what else?
	Oh yeah, we found one brave judge in America.
	Got it.
	Alrighty, awesome.
	Someone in the chat, yeah a regular mdd1924 comment in which she held the dog over the first time said,
	Not as big as Seb's Tabourines.
	No, although I've got two, and one of them is a compact model, Leia.
	She's about 35 pounds, and then Killian is pushing 85.
	He's a big boy.
	Wow.
	15 seconds.
	Big boy.
	Don't want to come in with anything?
	I think not.
	Thank you.
	Thanks for watching!
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	A medium-sized bed, I think, for Jefferson, Natalie?
	I think so.
	I would agree.
	Thank you.
	Brown or green?
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	Okay, done.
	It will be ordered as soon as you are off the show.
	In the meantime, let's get back to business.
	I think I broached this subject with you before, but it has to be dealt with because they're still not doing it.
	As a certain good guy on Capitol Hill told me when I asked him, do they have a strategy for what they're investigating when it comes to the Bidens?
	And he said, no, they have no strategy.
	Quote, they're shooting a BB gun at the Death Star.
	A very good analogy from our friend.
	Thank you, Matt.
	What do we need to see coming from Capitol Hill?
	I think that may be a... Oh, go ahead.
	No, seriously, I want your... Because you know it, right?
	You know... You used the phrase, you know, the depths of the depravity.
	You know the levels, the complicated, complex corruption we're talking about.
	What do Republicans need to do better?
	Help them out, Natalie.
	I was going to say, I think you're doing a disservice to BB guns, because at least they can shoot straight for the most part, right?
	I know that implies they have a target they're going at.
	You know, just to extrapolate beyond the Hunter Biden situation, because as important as Hunter Biden, what the Biden family does is It's also imperative to remember that that's missing the forest for the trees.
	In other words, Hunter Biden only exists because the Chinese Communist Party has set up an infrastructure and ecosystem here, whereby some of our most powerful political, media, academic elite, it's very easy for them to fall back into the orbit of the Chinese Communist Party.
	And frankly, I think that is what this Congress needs to be focusing on.
	They have by no means delivered enough subpoenas whatsoever at all, full stop.
	For example, one of the first stories I broke under Rahim was how these Chinese Communist Party influence groups that are registered foreign agents here were paying to take journalists overseas on trips to China in exchange for favorable coverage.
	But this organization has really evaded any actual accountability in terms of who took these
	trips, what they did, what media outlets they worked for.
	I was able to get it through old deleted webpages and archives, but I'm talking CNN, The New
	York Times, The Washington Post.
	They should subpoena all of these lobbyists to get all of the names of these journalists
	who took these trips, because I think it really starts with unpacking the media, because it
	doesn't matter what work they're actually doing on the Hill, for the most part, if the
	media is not going to report on it.
	What is the name of that organization that was buying a good favor with all these people?
	So that's the China United States Exchange Foundation, and they had several lobbying firms working for them, but Wilson Global was one of them that was the primary one.
	But they were having these American lobbyists liaise with them, not just on behalf of the media, also on behalf of these top universities, also on behalf of even the Congressional Black Caucus.
	They had it on behalf of think tanks, even high school programs, all the way down
	to bringing high school students over.
	Upon return, they were writing stories about why communism should be implemented here
	in the United States.
	And I know this might sound like one isolated anecdote, but the real reason that this is important
	is because we need to make an example out of people who have lobbied and worked
	on behalf of foreign countries, primarily the Chinese Communist Party,
	because these people do it and they don't think there's any ramification.
	And that's how you stop it, because they get away with it, whether the press won't hold them accountable or there's no legal ramification.
	So we need to make these people famous and make them infamous so people will be damned if they dare to lobby for the Chinese Communist Party's and America's adversaries ever again.
	I love it.
	We've got 20 seconds left when it comes to concrete Biden corruption.
	Who needs to be subpoenaed next, Natalie?
	I say Devon Archer.
	Okay, Devon Archer.
	Eric Schwerin.
	Yes, Eric Schwerin.
	Yes, Eric Schwerin.
	I know I gave you two.
	Yeah, no, that's good.
	That's good.
	I'd go for Eric first, and then Devon.
	In the meantime, follow this lady, Natalie G. Winters, at NatalieGWintersWarRoom.org, where she co-hosts, when Bannon lets her, the show that is for the Hobbits, for the Shire.
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	Okay.
	Come in with Nigel, please.
	And with cut seven.
	Got a title for Natalie.
	the degeneracy of the Biden family.
	And, um, Elise, if you have anything in mind still.
	Yes, um...
	How about this?
	Actually, I think Conservatives are really nice.
	What do you think?
	I like that, yeah.
	Yeah, let's do that.
	Conservatives are really nice.
	Alright.
	Yep.
	For bowling tonight, they say it's going to be just a one-on-one with you and Eric.
	Not a debate after all.
	That's two challengers who've backed off.
	But yeah, that's a 5-15.
	They're all wieners.
	This is a weird week.
	Felt like a Monday today for some reason.
	Totally.
	Yeah, I think with, along with Christmas and New Year's, July 4th is the only other holiday
	that is not based on like, it's just based on whatever's on the calendar.
	Like Labor Day is always a Monday.
	You know, a good Friday obviously is always a Friday, but July 4th, that's a Tuesday this year.
	You gotta deal with it.
	AMAC.
	AMAC.
	Coming in with cut seven.
	AMAC.
	Do we need to record either of these?
	Alex?
	No sir.
	20 seconds.
	Cut 7, no liner.
	You are not allowed to use this footage as a reference for your own personal use.
	Yes, the bank that closed me up was Coutts.
	Now they say they've offered me a NatWest account.
	That wasn't until late on Thursday night, after I'd blown the story out there, which said that then seven other banks had refused me.
	That is now nine other banks that have refused me.
	They're telling the press I don't meet their wealth threshold.
	Well, they've never mentioned that before in the previous ten years.
	The worst of the story is they denied to me on the phone on Friday that I was a pep, a
	politically exposed person.
	That's the reason nobody else will have me and coops are frankly being very, very dishonest
	indeed.
	Well, we played you the tease about a week ago when Nigel Farage stood off the wall.
	What was it, Eric?
	It was like, what, 30 years or something?
	He'd been with the bank for this, like, three decades or something?
	Something along those lines, and then out of nowhere, suddenly, he's debanked.
	They cancelled all of his accounts.
	His business accounts and his personal accounts.
	And then back then he said, I'm not going to reveal the identity of the bank because I'll give them an opportunity to respond and correct the situation.
	Well, they didn't.
	And he just unveiled them.
	It's Cootes Bank.
	Cootes is perhaps the oldest bank in England.
	One of the most prestigious banks.
	Banks to the royals as well.
	And they just unilaterally Shut down all of his accounts?
	And they use this Orwellian phrase that he's a pep?
	A pep?
	It's not some kind of pension fund.
	It's a politically exposed person?
	What does that mean?
	Somebody you politically disagree with?
	That's the problem?
	Who next?
	Remember, his sin is what?
	He's the father of Brexit.
	Now, what is Brexit?
	Brexit was the decision after decades of having their sovereignty undermined by the socialist project that is the European Union.
	The British people said, no, we want our independence back, the British exit from the European Union, the Brexit.
	And it is, remains to this day, the largest vote on any single issue.
	17.4 million Brits, of all stripes, classic conservatives, Thatcherites, working class, northerners, you name it.
	Said no.
	We want our nation back.
	We want full sovereignty.
	We don't want an unelected body in Brussels or Strasbourg making decisions above us.
	By the way, shockingly, how the original founders developed this or bought into this to this day is mind-numbing until you understand the real reason for why it was created.
	The regulations and the laws passed by the European Parliament, which can only be initiated by the Commission.
	Yes, the laws for the European Union cannot be initiated by members of the Parliament, but by the bureaucrats who are unelected.
	If that law passes, whatever it is, you know, what the size of a banana imported into the EU is, or what is the level of lead in the gasoline, Those laws supersede the Constitution of the individual nation-states.
	Incredible!
	They actually are above the British, the French, the German, the Spanish Constitution.
	Well, they had enough.
	And Nigel was the father of that, with the Brexit Party.
	And now he has to be, to use the phrase from 1984, UNPERSONED!
	No bank account for you!
	It's not just social media accounts that they can cancel.
	It's your livelihood.
	All right, little update from across the pond.
	Let's get back to politics here in the United States.
	Somebody, another one of the backstabbing turncoats from the former MAGA world is a guy I used to like, Steve Cortez.
	He used to be a regular on Bannon's show.
	He was a massive booster for the president, especially in the Hispanic community.
	A former trader, I think.
	A kind of Wall Street guy.
	And now he's a spokesperson for the DeSantis PAC.
	And he did a Twitter space at the weekend where he let the cat out of the bag.
	As a chief booster, as a surrogate for the governor of Florida, Steve Cortese says, Nope!
	Can't be Trump anymore!
	Gotta be somebody else!
	Gotta be Ron!
	Well, what did he say on the Twitter space?
	Let's have a little listen.
	Cut 12, play cuts.
	Look, right now in national polling, we are way behind.
	I'll be the first to admit that, OK?
	I believe him being really blunt and really honest.
	It's an uphill battle.
	I don't think it's an unwinnable battle by any stretch, OK?
	But clearly, Donald Trump is the runaway front runner.
	Are you supposed to say that openly?
	I mean, he only just declared, right?
	A month ago.
	And he's already admitting that his boss can't win.
	We'll dissect that with you.
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	Why did it fall apart?
	Is there any way now that bridges can be rebuilt between the Trump campaign and the governor's office in Florida?
	I said he should be the vice president.
	He should come in.
	Be part of the cabinet.
	Slide in to the poll position in 2028.
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	Everybody's still on holiday.
	Yeah, we're still recuperating, yeah.
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	Big buddies of Bernie Sanders, Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenwood tweeted this out yesterday for July 4th.
	This is the 4th of July.
	It's high time we recognize that the U.S.
	exists on stolen indigenous land and commit to returning it before suggesting in their next tweet that Mount Rushmore should be handed back to its original owners.
	Really?
	There's only one problem with that, as somebody called Kevin Dalton pointed out on Twitter.
	I look forward to the virtues signaling Ben and Jerry's returning their factory's land, which is of course in Vermont, to the Abenaki and Mohican Native Americans that have lived in Vermont for 10,000 years.
	Yeah, Ben!
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	Why don't you start by handing back all of your actual property?
	To the indigenous tribes of Vermont.
	You're just virtue signalers.
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	Harry, Atlanta, line one.
	Dr. Gorky, continue to love you.
	I think DeSantis can come back aboard with Trump, but he's sure got to become a lot bigger man than he apparently is.
	So what does he have to do?
	What would be the thing that would make you think, OK, it's time for President Trump to let him in?
	I think he needs to apologize to Trump, be humble, and say I'll take any position you give me.
	I'm interested in helping you out.
	You're the only man that can do it.
	That's what he's gotta do.
	I think a real job.
	What do you think would be a good job for him, Harry, in the administration?
	Vice President or a real job?
	I think a real job.
	I think he's too early still for Vice President.
	Alright, but the Vice President really doesn't get to do anything important.
	If you mean a real job, what are you thinking about?
	He's a former prosecutor, so that could be what, DOJ?
	What do you think would be a good slot for him?
	I think he could make a great Attorney General.
	All right, well, you know, one of the superpowers President Trump has is an unbelievable capacity to forgive people for past transgressions.
	He does like people to be loyal, but he can overlook things for the greater good, for the good of the American people.
	So, really, I think you're right, Harry.
	It's up to the governor of Florida.
	Is he big enough of a man to say, I was wrong, especially after the Alvin Bragg indictment I shouldn't have said what I said, and I'm sorry.
	You know what?
	I'm not holding my breath.
	Where did that hour go?
	That's crazy!
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	...to keep from you concerning the BLM activists behind the shooting.
	Hillary Clinton has made a statement about the threat to democracy.
	I think you can probably guess who she thinks it is.
	Ben and Jerry's yet again hating on America.
	Are they going to leave America?
	I think not.
	We will dissect with the wonderful Jennifer Horne, our two.
	Salem News Channel, be there.
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	Hi.
	How was your fourth?
	It was good.
	I was just complaining with Mike, who helps me get set up in here.
	Our neighbors, his neighbor apparently kept him up.
	Mine, too, till like three in the morning with the flipping fireworks.
	Oh, man.
	Which on a weekend, I would still be annoyed, but not as much as when my alarm goes off at 4.30.
	Yeah.
	I was just mentioning to Seb, I'm like, yeah, this is one of the, like, few holidays we have that isn't based, like, you know, Memorial Day is always gonna be on a Monday, Good Friday is always on a Friday.
	Fourth?
	Eh, it's a Tuesday this year.
	We gotta deal with it.
	It's a variable.
	And then your whole week feels weird.
	Like, all morning long, I wanted to say it's the Monday edition of The Morning Answer.
	I'm like, no, that's not right.
	We've been here already.
	But I prefer the fireworks.
	I noticed this is California related.
	Did you see all the nonsense on Twitter recently about the California GOP changing the delegate rules for the primary?
	No, what did they say?
	I haven't even seen that.
	Apparently, like the date's been changed.
	So now it's gonna be like proportional rather than winner take all.
	And so people are saying, oh, this is obviously a ploy to help DeSantis and stuff like that.
	Of course, I would believe that.
	Unbelievable.
	Yeah, I just see it.
	I don't know what to make of it, honestly.
	I mean, again, I think even if that was true, I don't think it's relevant because I still think DeSantis is going to lose.
	He's going to lose, there's no doubt, but it should be winner-take-all.
	Why change the rules now?
	Yeah.
	Also, I mean, let's be honest, Republicans in California love Trump.
	They absolutely love him.
	The leaders don't like him, but that's irrelevant.
	The voters love him.
	Well, and the Republican Party also does not like him.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But he got six million votes in California for a reason.
	Yeah.
	And they still like him.
	You know, every event, and it's gone up, every event that I've done, I always kind of tally where people are.
	And towards the beginning of the year, there were a lot of people who were like, oh, we think DeSantis, too many mean tweets and too much baggage.
	And now everybody is Trump.
	You want to talk about the biggest dud in political history?
	It's Ron DeSantis.
	I like that suit.
	It's nice.
	It's one of my new tailor-made little numbers.
	It's really nice.
	It's a good color combo.
	I like it.
	It's just too hot today.
	Thank you.
	Had to wear an Obama suit.
	Isn't that awful that we have to call it an Obama suit?
	Come in with cut three, please, gentlemen.
	Come in with three.
	No liner.
	Ah, Jesse.
	Tricks.
	Trace.
	20 seconds.
	Go.
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	Thanks for watching!
	Why are you leaving California?
	I heard it's because you might have to pay reparations.
	Is that true?
	Well, that's just the icing on the cake, isn't it?
	I've been there for 45 years, Jesse, and I've watched Southern California devolve into a third world country between the homeless Defecating on the sidewalk.
	Doing drugs on the sidewalk in the middle of the day.
	Illegal aliens all over the place.
	Laws mean nothing.
	Crime is out of control.
	Graffiti on everything.
	And all my tax dollars, I don't know what they go for.
	I'm afraid to go to the mall.
	My wife and kid are afraid to go to the mall.
	The great Scott Baio on Jesse Waters' show!
	Yeah, he got the primetime slot.
	Talking about California, is it time to get out?
	One person who never gives up, never gives in, because she is the quintessence of the happy warrior, is the co-host of The Morning Answer on AM 870, AM 590.
	And she's our regular guest here on America First.
	Jennifer Horne, how was your July 4th?
	It was absolutely fantastic.
	It was very small.
	You know, we did a bigger barbecue on Saturday.
	So this year, or excuse me, yesterday, we just did a little barbecue, a little swim time in the pool.
	And then my dad has a gazebo that sits up on his bank.
	And you can see a lot of the fireworks displays from all over the San Fernando Valley up there.
	So we just kind of sat up and watched.
	And then my neighbors pretended that they were in Baghdad, 2002, and kept me awake the
	rest of the night.
	A lot of illegal fireworks displays, a lot of bangs, a lot of booms last night all around
	Los Angeles.
	So you got a lot of sleep, right, Jen?
	I think very little.
	I think I have this little aura ring that I wear that tracks your sleep and your heart
	rate, your steps and all of that stuff.
	And when I opened up my app this morning to see how I did, it asked me if I was OK.
	Are you alive?
	Is she alive?
	Yeah, like testing.
	Is this thing on?
	Hello?
	All right, so let me tell you what we did last night.
	We had friends in from Canada, and the husband is more of a patriot about America than most Americans I know.
	He's a massive contributor to PragerU.
	He loves this country.
	He's here half of the year, you know, just imbibing as much of America.
	And his wife had never been to Washington, so we We met them for dinner and we walked all the way.
	She got 10,000 steps in yesterday.
	She's tracking, too.
	See, that's what we do.
	A lot of steps.
	That's a lot.
	And we walked from the restaurant all the way down to the mall to see the fireworks, and it was packed.
	The grass, what you couldn't see, you just couldn't see.
	There were humans sitting everywhere.
	Two things.
	Number one, and call me an old fogey, but this is the nation's capital.
	You're down there on the mall in front of the Washington Memorial.
	The stench everywhere of weed.
	was just like...
	Ugh.
	So low class.
	I mean, yeah, seriously.
	Just seriously.
	And the other thing which is low class and just...
	dangerous...
	You've got thousands, I don't know, 10, 20,000 people, stretching as far as the eye can see, sitting down on their blankets or whatever, and then as the, you know, government-funded, taxpayer-funded fireworks are, you know, beautifully exploding behind the Washington Monument, people are exploding fireworks amongst the people sitting down on the ground.
	Unbelievable!
	Not launching them, just like, dropping them!
	Multiple times!
	What were they doing?
	Was anybody saying anything?
	Being asshats, as we say.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Were there police out, or just nobody there?
	Well, there were police everywhere, but they didn't do anything about it.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	I love fireworks, and I did this whole thing on Monday's show.
	Grant was out, so I had a little fun.
	And I said, you know, dollars to donuts, these drone displays are going to take over fireworks.
	And not that the drones aren't cool, you know, the Queen's Jubilee, all that stuff, it's fine.
	There's a place for the drone show.
	But I love these fireworks.
	But people have gotten so stupid.
	You know, it's not necessarily patriotic to, like, blow your pinky finger off.
	Did you see what they did in Minneapolis?
	Did you see what happened in Minneapolis?
	Yes!
	I mean, if you haven't seen it, I posted the video.
	Just go to my social media accounts.
	The Somali kids were launching full-size rockets, and I mean dozens of them, at the police.
	Just, like, firing them like RPGs at the police.
	It was like a war.
	I mean, really, it was a war zone that they created.
	And we had the story today of this little boy who got hit with another dummy who I'm sure an NRA member who was shooting his gun up in the air.
	And I say that in jest because everybody loves to blame the NRA.
	But these people shooting their guns up in the air, what do they think happens to the bullets?
	And this poor little kid has been critically injured now in the hospital fighting for his life because people are just dumb.
	Beside the negative, super grateful for this country.
	I love the 4th of July.
	It is nice to feel patriotic.
	It is nice to feel people coming together to celebrate, whether they know what they're doing or not.
	I wish we had more of that feeling every day of the year, unfortunately.
	But should we ban from having it on a Tuesday?
	Should we move?
	Absolutely!
	Should we change the calendar so the 4th falls on a Saturday?
	No, because we want the day off.
	So let's make it a Monday or a Friday so we can get a three-day weekend.
	Let's get back to business.
	We can talk about California in a second and what your darling governor is saying about not running, which I don't believe for a second.
	But you were saying something before you came on air about the governor of Florida Is this potentially the biggest, talking about fireworks, is this the biggest damp squib in presidential politics?
	Because you can have jokes like, what's her name?
	Marianne Crystal, whatever.
	Oh I love her, Marianne Williamson.
	You can have joke candidates that are amusing, but of somebody who had potential and literally became the world's largest damp squib, is there anybody worse than Ron?
	I think that Ron DeSantis now, and I don't love saying this because I think he's a member of our bench and I want our bench to do well moving forward in the future, but he's been the biggest political dud like maybe ever.
	I'm talking about Jeb or Jeb dud.
	You know, I don't know what it was with Ron DeSantis.
	But this is what I want you to analyze, because we played the audio of somebody who I wasn't a close friend, but I liked the guy, Steve Cortez, who just did this shocking 180, biggest Trump booster for six years, and then suddenly becomes spokesperson for the DeSantis PAC, and then with no explanation, no justification, and then he's on this Twitter space at the weekend saying, yeah, we got problems.
	It's not working out too well.
	I have an explanation, for me, but I'm in it too close.
	It's the response to the Alvin Bragg indictment, it's other things, but we're in politics.
	We imbibe this all the time.
	Why do you think he's been such a dad, even in Florida, Jan?
	Well, I think he so operationally, I think he made a couple of mistakes.
	One, he waited for the law to be changed in Florida so that he could jump into the race and he waited too long.
	Operationally, he also botched his launch.
	Look, I think we need to be on Twitter spaces.
	I think we need to be.
	As the Little Mermaid would say, we need to be where the people are, Seb.
	We need to be there, but you gave control of your launch announcement to the people at Twitter, and you gave up the control of making sure that everything went off flawlessly and without a hitch.
	So there were a couple of operational mistakes.
	He also, and I was talking, Carl Jackson, who's a great colleague of ours at Salem Radio, he's out of Florida, and we were talking about this issue today on the Morning Answer.
	He doesn't connect emotionally with people.
	He's very smart.
	I'm not going to say that Ron DeSantis is terribly stupid, but he is not someone who connects to people's hearts.
	And that's a really big problem.
	And what has happened is that President Trump does connect with people's hearts.
	That's why the blue collar workers gathered around him in 2016.
	And where I think he fatally made the mistake, and I know he did, it's your moment and it's my moment.
	And that is when he should have come out.
	In support of Donald Trump.
	He could still be in the election.
	He could still be running against him.
	But when Alvin Bragg comes after you with this sham, you better stand up and you better protect him and you better protect all of us.
	And because he didn't have a great emotional response, in fact, he was snarky, that turned people off.
	And I think the indictment in and of itself made people emotionally connected to Trump because now they think not only was he robbed, but he deserves to be in that space.
	And it's so incredible that if he just said just these words this is outrageous this is un-american if that he would have looked like
	Like a grown-up.
	That's right.
	Because what he didn't realize, or maybe he did and maybe he just had a bad moment, maybe there's personal bad blood, I don't care.
	But what conservatives are looking at in this country is that if you can go after Donald Trump with all of his money, all of his power, and the past presidency behind him, what can they do to Sebastian Gorka?
	What can they do to Jennifer Horne?
	What can they do to Joe Blow from Ohio?
	We are worried about what they can do to us.
	And Ron DeSantis doesn't realize that Donald Trump is sort of the leader of that movement
	and he needed to protect him in that moment.
	I think what we really saw, those are the moments when you get a glimpse of the real
	character of an individual or the lack of character of an individual.
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	Jen, yes, you know that they're gonna not prosecute you for urinating on the street
	as part of this reparations report. Oh my gosh.
	What's the latest on the podcast?
	I haven't heard a word and they said they're sending a contract and we haven't gotten it.
	It is like, it's like slow-moving.
	Yeah, I think nine months is, yeah, a little bit.
	We could have birthed a child.
	We're both birthing people, so we could have done that.
	All right, I just kicked, Phil.
	All right, over 2,000 viewers, by the way.
	Why?
	How come?
	What's going on?
	2,020 viewers, as a matter of fact.
	Just three more, and it'll be the current year.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	Woo-hoo!
	Alright, um... What else is a good story?
	People love the Ron Santas talk.
	Oh yeah?
	Oh yeah.
	You know, the one other thing that I didn't mention is the stupid gay video he sent out this week.
	Oh, yeah.
	His cums team, I mean... Who is running that show?
	I mean, it's the stupidest thing.
	I mean, I don't care what you think morally or ethically or whatever, but when you're the President of the United States, after a nightclub shooting at a gay nightclub, why would you hit Trump for saying he wants to protect every American?
	Because that's your job.
	Unbelievable.
	People were quick to point out, too, that some, like, a handful, like, DeSantis surrogates include, like, Dave Rubin, you know, who is himself gay, so, like, I wonder if, you know, people would be, like, you know... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But on that video, and I said this before, that video looked like it was put together by boomers and Gen Xers on that team who think, oh, this is what Zoomers should like, right?
	Like, obviously, it was aimed at Zoomers, like the Patrick Bateman meme and everything, but...
	It was very much, you know, the how do you do fellow kids, like Steve Buscemi meme.
	It was just so... Everybody stinks of just incompetence when it comes to coms team.
	Yeah, it just feels like things are just not running right.
	Right.
	I don't know.
	And by the way, when did Scott Baio turn into Joe Pesci?
	Did he not look himself?
	What happened there?
	When I first saw the clip, I literally didn't reckon.
	Is he like on the COVID diet or what?
	That's what I was wondering.
	I'm like, where did Chachi go?
	Because that is not him.
	That is not Chachi.
	And he's got like the old man voice now, very Italian.
	and he's just, it's very funny.
	I love this headline from the Daily Mail.
	Mayor Bill de Blasio and lesbian wife announce split.
	I saw that today.
	But they're staying together but they're not together and she's going to date another woman or something.
	Oh my gosh.
	The Daily Mail is fun for all the salacious stuff.
	How they got the audio of the hazmat team just blows my mind.
	Is that amazing?
	Of course it's not an American outlet.
	It's the Daily Mail.
	Also, come on, the headline of finding cocaine in the White House.
	Mike Pence was on with QEU today, and he was right.
	You know, if that was the Trump White House, people would—this would be front-page news.
	Yeah.
	Oh my God.
	And this BS—even Fox, of course, had a chyron.
	Cocaine found in highly-trafficked pod.
	I went to the library once after a private dinner with the president, and he took me there.
	Okay?
	I worked there.
	I went there once.
	Highly-trafficked.
	It's crazy.
	Well, that's what Mike Pence was saying today.
	He was like, that's an area where only, like, the top people will actually go.
	He said, I don't know about the tours, but he said there's a lot of people that don't have access to that spot.
	So you're listening to Hugh's show.
	Well, you know what I do in the morning, right?
	No.
	So I get in my car and I listen to MSNBC, CNN, Huw Hewitt, The Hawks.
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	I got this take, I got this article in front of me about the reparations.
	Now the task force is recommending $225 billion as a payout.
	I think this is all... Tell me if I'm a little bit too cynical.
	You know the Democrats in California.
	I think this is all a con.
	They don't intend ever to pay a dime.
	It's just, you know, it's dangling the carrot on the stick in front of black Americans in California.
	But as soon as they walk forward, the stick moves further forward.
	Am I being a tad too cynical, Jen?
	No, you're absolutely right on the money.
	And for everyone listening across the country who might be considering Gavin Newsom as a candidate for president, let's just tell you that this has his fingerprints all over it, because this is pandering at its best.
	And he actually got caught by this.
	You know, he's such a smooth talker.
	He, like, tries to squeak out of things.
	But back in 2020, after the George Floyd killing, after he was killed, Gavin Newsom, during the pandemic, comes out and says, we have to do something.
	And he was clutching his pearls and he was very sure that we had to do something here in California.
	So he formed this reparations task force.
	Well, lo and behold, three years later, they actually finished the job.
	And what did they do?
	They recommended like $95,000, $100,000, I think, per black resident.
	Lots of debt forgiveness.
	This was just a drop in the bucket compared to what the reparations task force in San Francisco came up with, which was like, Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for everybody.
	No debt.
	Free everything.
	It was crazy, but it's untenable.
	It's unsustainable.
	So they come out with this same monetary payment system for black residents in California, by the way, in a state that was never a slave state.
	If you're talking about reparations for anybody, maybe it would be the Asian people who came here to work on the railroads or people who were put in actual internment camps.
	By a Democrat president.
	By a Democrat president, exactly!
	But that's California's history.
	California was not a slave state.
	So it's very bizarre that we're doing this.
	Gavin Newsom freaks out and he goes, well, we're not going to do any payments.
	We'd like to, but reparations doesn't have to mean money.
	Really?
	Because reparations always means money, I think, in my mind.
	But this task force put together, and it's 1,200 pages, a list of hundreds of suggestions that could be done in California to Make up for its racist past.
	So what are they going to get?
	Who was that guy that they had John Kerry after the terrorist attack in Paris?
	He brought that guy to sing with his guitar.
	Do you remember?
	Are they going to sing songs to black Californians?
	Kumbaya, I believe.
	Yeah, we're all going to stand around and hold hands.
	No, but get this.
	One of the most wild, and I mean there's some wild stuff on this list.
	You can read it.
	I really think that these guys, they met like every other Thursday.
	I think they probably brought in their favorite adult beverage.
	Maybe a few of them.
	And maybe some of Hunter Biden's parmesan.
	Exactly.
	Some of the Parmesan cheese.
	And I think they said, what's the wildest thing we can think of?
	And they wrote a list.
	So one of the items on the list is that it will no longer be illegal to publicly urinate on the streets.
	Based on skin color or can I do it?
	I think everybody can.
	I guess we're all part of the bonus package here.
	I would imagine.
	That counts as being able to relieve oneself in public is part of reparations for slavery in a state that didn't have slavery.
	This is absolutely, I mean, I'm telling you, this is insanity.
	I went crazy today because if you start, there are a couple of things that separate us from the animals and fewer by the minute.
	One of them is that most of us sane, rational people seek shelter.
	Like that's a very human thing to do.
	California says, you don't need shelter.
	Just live on the streets.
	We'll give you some tents.
	Great.
	And the other thing is that we go to the bathroom indoors.
	And now California's saying, you know what?
	You don't have to use that.
	Just go ahead.
	You got to go pop a squat.
	Have at it.
	We're going to turn this state.
	I thought it was bad enough.
	But these people coming up with these ridiculous ideas are turning the state into a litter box.
	How is this paying back anyone by destroying their communities?
	Because guess where there's going to be the most urination?
	In poor communities.
	The poor people are going to be the ones that suffer more than anybody else.
	What are they thinking?
	It's unbelievable.
	And I've been victimized by this in my neighborhood.
	I had someone do worse than urination in front of my house.
	It is not a good problem to have.
	It's disgusting.
	Let me just say, I never thought my show would have a guest that says, pop a squat, and the following sentence, which will go down in radio history, where do you think most of the urination will happen?
	It's not a sentence I expect to have on my show, but let's go back to the key question.
	There used to be a real answer for that, but in California, no more.
	But do you agree with my analysis that it's all a shell game for the Democrats?
	It's never going to happen.
	I mean, not even three cents.
	None of it's going to happen.
	This is the point is that Gavin Newsom has had to walk back the fact that he's going to be able to pay anybody because he's not.
	He's not going to be able to come up with a single dime.
	So once again, you see Democrats pandering to people of color in this country and then Give it in the shaft.
	They're not going to do anything.
	Their hope that people were given by these news stories is gone.
	And so these and not only that, but the suggestions which they may implement are going to break down their communities even more.
	So what is the what is the win here?
	I think people are going to wake up quickly.
	I think they are starting to wake up in California.
	People always ask me what's going to save California.
	And I believe it is the Latino voter.
	I believe it is the black voter.
	I believe enough is enough.
	The attacks on kids.
	This is just the latest way that the Democrat Party is disappointing people of color in our state.
	Yeah.
	Just don't mix up the order in which you pop a swat and give somebody the shaft, okay?
	I'm never going to let that down, right?
	You don't want to mix up the giving the shaft or the pop a swat.
	She's racing the bar on our conversations every week.
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	Listen to her, please, every single day, along with the guy she's still trying to keep in training.
	God bless her.
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	We just have to make sure that you... You win!
	You have to win.
	You live in a different universe, we just have to make sure that you win. You have to
	win. I have to win. I know. It's unbelievable.
	Whatever happened to that woman?
	Did the police ever come that day?
	That was a different person.
	What do you mean?
	Oh, that was a different one?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, no.
	That was the lady who was trying to live on my patio.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Oh, no.
	I came out on the sidewalk.
	Somebody having a crap?
	Waste.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yep.
	And I thought, it's got to be an animal.
	But they left paper behind.
	Well, they wiped their butt and they left it on the sidewalk?
	Yeah.
	Disgusting.
	I wish I was making it up.
	When do people have enough?
	Well, that's the thing.
	And this isn't a neighborhood.
	This isn't like in the slums.
	You know what I mean?
	I don't know.
	I don't know when people have enough.
	But I hope it's soon.
	Because it's gross.
	How's your mom doing?
	She's good.
	She's just speeding around everywhere with those new hips of hers.
	Amazing.
	She's doing great.
	Yeah.
	All right, you guys.
	Well, enjoy the rest of the week.
	All right.
	Thanks, my dear.
	God bless.
	All right.
	Have a good one.
	Bye.
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	What's going on here?
	Alright, I'll try to call that guy again.
	Thanks.
	Please.
	Do you have a number for him?
	No number at the moment.
	Hang on.
	Walking the lines.
	Thanks.
	Keep the mics down in the video feed, Alex.
	Thanks.
	Keep the mics down in the video feed, Alex.
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	All right, let's go to your calls. Waiting very patiently.
	What happened to the DeSantis caller who dropped off?
	He said, you've got to be nicer to Ron.
	And he just couldn't wait like three minutes.
	It's like the crazy leftists.
	They have no staying power.
	Maybe they have to get some testosterone cream or something.
	Let's go to Randy in Knoxville, line one.
	Hey, Randy.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey, I shot my father's 1943 Smith & Wesson .38 revolver off at the 4th of July.
	Hopefully you didn't shoot it into the air, Randy.
	Absolutely not.
	I have a nice burn at the back of my house out here in the country.
	I bought that for my dad almost 40 years ago.
	He had owned an antiquarian bookstore in Charlotte, North Carolina, and I said, Dad, you need to have this even in a bookstore.
	You never know what kind of nut might walk in here.
	You know what I really miss, Randy?
	I really miss, because they're like a dying breed.
	There's like one left that I know in New Hampshire.
	There used to be one in the actual airport of the Raleigh Airport.
	Used bookstores, antiquarian bookstores.
	It's like a dying breed, Randy.
	Absolutely.
	I loved it so much.
	My dad was like my literature professor.
	I'm still hunting.
	I'm looking for that Gutenberg Bible.
	Last week, I go to a state sales.
	Dr. Greger, I found a 1930s copy of La Gastronomique in somebody's hat.
	And what did you get it for?
	Like two bucks?
	It was only a dollar.
	Oh my gosh.
	In dust jacket.
	My wife always makes fun of me when I check out those, you know, car boot sales and those, you know, people cleaning out their garage.
	You can often find surprising things there.
	But that's not why you're calling.
	What made you dial us up today, Randy?
	Dr. Gorka, I appreciated you talking here a little while back about how the vice presidency really isn't a real job when you're talking to that guy about giving DeSantis a job.
	This morning on our favorite squishy squish Republican Hugh Hewitt show, he had Mike Pence on being interviewed.
	Again?
	Yeah, it's all the time.
	I mean, gosh, between him and Chris Christie, it's like, Hugh, come on, man.
	Our administration did so much, Hugh.
	Our administration did this and our administration did that.
	And I'll always be proud of everything that our administration did.
	And I was about to puke.
	So hang on a second.
	Hang on.
	If he kept saying our administration and how incredibly proud he was of serving in our administration, why is he running against his boss, Randy?
	I'm a bit confused.
	That's why I was feeling really nauseous and thinking like, hey man, I don't like that Turn Salem radio off, but you, you're going to make me, man.
	Come on.
	I mean, Mike Pence, Dr. Gorka, why do you think he's running for president?
	I mean, you know, so there's a couple of things, you know, a couple of reasons people who know they can't win runs.
	So number one, they want to sell a book.
	They want to make some money.
	Number two, they know they can't win, but they want a place in the, you know, the number one slot.
	When he wins, they want a place in his administration.
	Mike's never going to have that, so I think it's just a case of IQ.
	I think, you know, Mike Pence is so deluded, he actually thinks he's got a shot at winning.
	That's what I think.
	I bet you're probably right.
	I figure some of these guys, I know you're running out of time.
	Chris Christie, I know his platform, and it's a question I always wanted to ask him.
	His platform is glazed or plain?
	As long as it's not maple glazed, because that's my favorite.
	What's your favorite Krispy Kreme, Randy?
	I like plain cake dipped in coffee.
	Plain cake?
	What's plain cake?
	It's just the old cake doughnuts, like when you watch the World War II movies.
	Yeah.
	All those doughnuts the guys were eating back then.
	Oh, the OG ones, which are a little bit smaller, right?
	Yes, yeah.
	Everything was smaller.
	They fit in your coffee cup, that one.
	Nicely.
	I like, I like maple glaze.
	I like apple fritters.
	Eric, what's your favorite doughnut?
	Oh, I just, I'm good with some good old chocolate glaze.
	Chocolate.
	Alex?
	Just glazed.
	Glazed.
	Guys, you are so OG.
	Guy, what's your favorite doughnut?
	I have the same taste with Eric and Alex.
	I like glazed donuts.
	Come on, guys.
	No sprinkles.
	Nothing funky.
	A little bit of maple glaze.
	It's yummy.
	Oh, I almost forgot.
	Boston cream.
	You gotta love a good Boston cream.
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	Every day it's getting worse.
	It's a fact.
	Nobody talks about it.
	Just look it up.
	He's had two brain aneurysms.
	That's just a statement of medical history.
	Biden at the weekend.
	This is...
	Well, first things first, he's meant to read a website, and he can't even read the name of the website, so he just avoids it.
	Cut 9.
	By the way, the program is still there.
	Go to... Anyway, you ought to contact us to make sure you know exactly how to qualify.
	Go there?
	Go where?
	Oh, you know, I can't read it.
	I'm senile.
	Or I'm just mentally incompetent.
	Then, this is amazing.
	So this is a video.
	Apologies to our radio listeners.
	But he leaves the podium, starts talking to somebody who's not there, and maintains his back to the audience for the whole time he's talking!
	Play.
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	We're doing it!
	And here's Neo!
	Where is he?
	Where is he?
	I don't know, man.
	I want to say hi to him.
	Trying to get me off the stage, I'm afraid.
	I'm going to try to sing Richard.
	He's just wandering around the stage.
	Back to the audience, walking back and forth, talking to somebody who's not there.
	Are you surprised that they're finding cocaine in the White House with him in charge?
	All right, let's talk about you.
	You are the most important part of the show.
	We love our listeners.
	You know the best thing is, not just talking to you guys, and we will get to Joe and Matt, don't go anywhere, but when I get to meet you.
	And recently, just outside Philadelphia, with my good buddy Chris Stegall, we had the night of all nights.
	It was in this beautiful cigar bar.
	The Cigar Republic.
	And we got to meet some of our listeners.
	And one of them, well, he's doing what I tell you to do every day.
	Get involved.
	Run for local office.
	And we've invited him on the show.
	Gerald Parisi Jr.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hey, Sebastian.
	Thanks for having me.
	All right.
	Thank you for coming on and not just being a listener and having a cigar with us at the Chris de Gaulle event for The Answer in Philly.
	Tell us who you are and what this crazy decision is that you've taken.
	So I'm basically just a local dad.
	I got two little kids.
	Saw what was going on with the schools and got really concerned, so I decided to run for school board.
	Alright, so this is the Lower Merion School Board, Pennsylvania, that you're running for.
	Tell us what it was.
	What tipped you over the edge?
	You've got your own life, you're making money, you're the provider of the family.
	Why did you decide that you have to get engaged and run for school board?
	Yeah, so the one that tipped me over the edge was I had never gotten a tax return from a school district before.
	They were sued for overtaxing us and settled by paying back $27 million to the residents.
	So that ultimately tipped me over the edge on top of some personal instances.
	Hang on, this is an interesting... Let's unpack.
	This is fascinating.
	So this is Lower Merion.
	It's a school district.
	They tax you, the parents, the residents, Too much, and then somebody sued them successfully?
	Well, they settled out of court, but yeah, there was a private citizen who did the math and found it, and thank God for him, because if it wasn't for him, we never would have known.
	And now it's obvious the problem is with the school board, and it needs to be fixed.
	But is it primarily a function, you know, is the issue for you fiscal mismanagement, or is it more than that, Gerald?
	Oh, it's much more than that.
	They do have the policy in place, anti-parental rights policy, I'll call it, where they encourage staff to keep secrets with children and keep certain aspects of their school life from the parents, which I do not agree with at all.
	Does that include transgender?
	Is that if a child, quote-unquote, wants to transition, is that what we're talking about, keeping from the parents?
	I would assume it doesn't have that specific language, but I would assume that's the main goal of it, given the times.
	Alright, and tell us, how can people help you out?
	How can they support you?
	Is there a website?
	What would your message be to other people in Pennsylvania or across the country?
	You've got millions of people listening right now.
	There's, you know, lots to talk about, and Seb does a great job bringing up the topics and talk about them.
	Please get involved.
	It's daunting at first, but it's very encouraging.
	The more you get involved, the more you meet like-minded people, and you really build momentum.
	So, our website for the Republican Committee is rclmn.com, and you can go there and donate for our school board race.
	rclmn.com?
	Yep.
	It's for the Republican Committee of Lower Marion and Narberth.
	Okay, good.
	All right.
	RCLMN.com.
	Check it out.
	And then tell us a little bit about the reaction.
	What has the reaction been from friends and colleagues and family to your decision to finally get political?
	I get everything from eye rolls to hugs, as you can imagine.
	The one thing I will say that's very encouraging is we're hearing a lot of bipartisan support.
	The other side is fed up.
	And you got to find the right topics.
	When you get a tax return from a school district, something is going wrong.
	Yeah, I love that.
	From eye rolls to hugs.
	Well, God bless you.
	This is what I say every flipping week on the show.
	The most important thing you can do is run for local office and for the school board.
	Gerald Pariser Jr., God bless you for what you are doing.
	Lower Merion, Pennsylvania School Board.
	The website is rclmn.com.
	I want to hear more of you.
	I want to get more of you like Gerald on my show.
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	When is a cross-dresser not a cross-dresser?
	It's an interesting question.
	What happened on Monday night in Philadelphia?
	A gunman, yes, gunman killed five men and injured two children.
	Who is this individual?
	Well, they are a Black Lives supporter, yes, and reported as being a cross-dresser.
	Dresser because they have posted pictures of themselves on Facebook wearing a bra and a woman's top and earrings with long braided hair.
	But really, what makes you a cross-dresser and not transgender?
	Eric, what is Admiral Levine if not a cross-dresser?
	Because he hasn't had the snip-snip.
	To our knowledge, no.
	He is just like pretty much all of them.
	He is mentally ill.
	So to put it as simply as possible.
	Right.
	But as far as I'm concerned, they're all cross-dressers.
	You're a guy, even if you have your cut off, you're still a guy in a dress.
	So you're still a cross-dresser.
	Let's speak the truth.
	Let's go to your calls waiting patiently in Illinois.
	Joe, line three.
	Uh, Dr. Volga, uh, can we get another hour of your show here in Illinois?
	Uh, talk to the station manager.
	That's what you have to do.
	You have to, whichever stick you're listening to, whichever station that you listen to, you gotta write to them and say, we want the full three hours.
	Will you do that, Joe?
	I will, sir.
	Good.
	All right.
	Well, we love to hear that.
	Yes, indeed.
	You should get all three hours.
	Can you imagine?
	Poor Joe.
	He's sitting there in Illinois, and he doesn't get to hear Carrie Lake for a whole hour.
	All of our amazing third-hour guests, if you're somewhere where you don't get the full three hours, tell them!
	Complain!
	That's how it changes.
	It's not up to me.
	Let's go to Matt, North Carolina, line four.
	Hello, Dr. Gorga.
	Greetings.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment, Matt?
	Commander of Conservative Radio.
	Thank you, buddy.
	You're welcome.
	Well, first of all, what Joe just said, I get your third hour, but I get two, which ends in a couple minutes.
	I get the other one at nine o'clock at night.
	That's weird.
	All right, we've got a minute left.
	Tell us what your question or comment is.
	I certainly will.
	I saw Oh, all that news about the cocaine in the White House and all this.
	I have many opinions.
	Hunter Biden could be that stupid.
	And the next minute someone says, yes, he could.
	What if someone planted it there to bring down Biden's chances for re-election?
	What's your opinion?
	No, I don't buy that for a millisecond.
	I mean, the mainstream media isn't talking about it.
	If that were the case, I mean, think about this one thing.
	Imagine if that had occurred anywhere in the White House under the Trump administration.
	Now, that would be news.
	This isn't.
	But no, you know what this is.
	This is Hunter Biden dropping a little baggie in the library after he had a little snort.
	Thank you, Matt.
	Next up, Carrie Lake for the whole hour.
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	you She's a new star in the constellation of true conservatives, a woman who came up to me at a party in the swamp a few years ago with a crazy idea to get involved in politics, and she has been shooting up like a rocket.
	I hope to see her in the next Trump administration.
	Carrie Lake, welcome to America First One-on-One.
	Oh, I remember that day very clearly.
	It was about a month before I actually stepped into the arena.
	And I said, hey, yeah, I really admire you, Seb.
	And I used to be in media, and I'm about to step into the swamp.
	And I think you thought I was crazy, but here we are all these years later, and we are still working to restore truth in our politics and honesty in our elections.
	And here we are.
	Well, I have to say, I've never had a beautiful woman come up to me with the pitch you had, especially as my wife was standing next to me, and that was a very impressive pitch.
	I thought you were a little bit crazy, as did Matt Schlapp, in whose house we had met.
	So tell us what the ride has been like for you, because you had this unbelievable Media Kerry in Arizona, probably the most recognizable media personality.
	And then you said, OK, I've had it with the lying fake news, and I want to save our state.
	So it's a few years down the road.
	What's the ride been like, Kerry?
	It's been more wild than I could ever have imagined, even in my wildest imagination.
	I never imagined myself when I walked away from my career, Seb, that I would end up in politics.
	It was only after showing the courageous move of stepping away from that, you know, dream job, but it had become anything but a dream when I realized that propaganda had seeped in and taken over.
	I walked away from that.
	I walked away from a seven-figure contract, and I just put my life into God's hands and said, leave me where you want me to go.
	And amazingly, after that, the people of Arizona were so moved by what I did, they said, would you please run for office?
	So I found myself in the middle of not just politics, but a political movement unlike anything we've ever seen in Arizona.
	This was not about me.
	It was about the people.
	It was about returning our government back to the people, because things are very corrupt in Arizona.
	It was so wonderful to, for 525 days, have the good people of this state side-by-side with me as we worked hard to campaign and bring forth great common sense.
	Approaches to solve the problems here.
	Unfortunately, our elections are a mess.
	We saw that in 2020 with the fraud in our elections in Arizona.
	And we saw it again in 2022 with my election.
	And everybody in Arizona knows it.
	Everybody saw it with their own eyes.
	And so now I'm on the battle to bring about and restore faith in our elections and honesty in our elections.
	And I talk about it in the book Unafraid.
	I mean, you know, about a week or two before the election, I was praying to God and God indicated to me, things might not go the way you expect them to.
	This victory won't come the way you expect it, but the victory will come.
	And I do believe that this is about waking people up to what's happening in our country.
	We think, you know, 247 years ago, our founding fathers, 56 of them signed the Declaration of Independence.
	And they did that to free us from the monarchy, to free us from globalism, so that we, the people, would be able to choose our representation.
	And we've come far from what they had envisioned.
	They would be rolling in their graves if they saw how poorly our elections are being run.
	So, you know, the same God that put those brave men there 247 years ago has placed each and every one of us here at this moment.
	It's a pivotal moment in politics.
	I have somehow found myself in the middle of it, and I believe that I need to work hard to restore faith in our elections.
	So I'm still fighting.
	It's been a wild ride.
	I don't know where the next step is going to take me, but I'm just waking up and listening to God every day.
	The book is Unafraid, just getting started.
	We will be discussing it in detail through the hour.
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	Tell us a little bit about that decision because...
	People don't walk away from that kind of success in one career that they've invested decades in to do something completely different where there is no guarantee at all of success.
	In fact, the odds are stacked against you.
	What was it that made you take that step?
	Was it Distortions under COVID.
	Was it something incremental you're witnessing amongst your media colleagues?
	Or was there some moment where you said, okay, this is wrong.
	I have to try and fix it.
	All three of those things.
	You know, I noticed over the years that some of the people with depth in the newsrooms across the corporate media, all across the country, because I know people who work in media, the people who have the depth and a little more wisdom, and maybe they're older, they have children, were being pushed out and replaced with two or three kids fresh out of journalism school.
	And these kids coming out of journalism school today, unfortunately, And I'm sad for them, have been in a K through 12 system where they've been indoctrinated and then the universities are indoctrinating them further.
	Journalism schools aren't teaching them to be true journalists most of the time.
	They're teaching them to be social justice warriors.
	So newsrooms across the country started to get filled up with social justice warriors.
	And veterans like me would be, you know, you're trying to keep things balanced.
	It became difficult.
	Also, incrementally, just watching how the story choices changed over time to where you had more say and there was more interest in having balance to there being less interest in having balance and really having to fight to try to bring balance into every newscast.
	This is happening, not just in Arizona, it's happening all over the country.
	And for me, COVID was a huge wake-up call.
	You know, you hear, get a second opinion, right, when it comes to medicine?
	Right.
	Get a second opinion.
	That's a pretty basic thing.
	Sometimes you want a third opinion.
	One doctor tells you one thing, let me see what another doctor says or another doctor before we make a move.
	We made a move as a country that was so wrong and so off the wall, crazy and destructive, without even allowing second opinions.
	And in the media, it would be our duty, I would think, to get other doctors who have years of experience and expertise in vaccines and expertise in viruses.
	There were many of them speaking out.
	They were then labeled conspiracy theorists, and they were thrown into the trash heap of people you can't interview.
	And it was only the media willing to take Dr. Fauci and a few of their propagandist talking heads thoughts on COVID.
	I found that reprehensible.
	I found that not to be journalism at all, but to be propaganda.
	And the kind of propaganda that was dangerous to my fellow citizens, to the people watching, and frankly deadly.
	And I think I'm right.
	I think in hindsight we can say that I'm right on that.
	And it was also incremental.
	There was also one, as this was all weighing on me and I was having a harder time finding balance and feeling comfortable about what I was talking to the people of Arizona about, I'm a woman of principle and integrity, and I didn't want to lend my voice to this profession if we couldn't be totally honest with people.
	The big straw that broke the camel's back as I was pondering all of this and dealing with all of this and thinking of quitting, the November 3rd, 2020 election happened.
	And that was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.
	I saw now there was no interest in the corporate media to be honest and balanced when it came to COVID.
	Now we have an election that was run like a circus and was fraught with fraud.
	And there seemed to be no interest by the corporate media to dig into that, ask questions where needed to be asked.
	And so it was with that that I went to my husband and I just said, I really am struggling really badly doing this job.
	And how do you feel about me walking away?
	Thank God I have an amazing husband.
	We're going to be celebrating our 25th anniversary in August.
	And he was supportive.
	of me walking away from a huge paycheck at a time when the economy was at best sketchy and
	dicey. But we prayed a lot and I just knew God would provide and help me make the right decision.
	What I didn't realize, Seb, I didn't think it was that courageous of a move.
	I just felt it was a necessary move for me.
	I didn't realize that when I announced it to Arizona that my video would go viral and it would become a huge story and it would be a courageous move that inspired so many people.
	We will discuss the consequences of that truly courageous move.
	It's all detailed in the brand new book.
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	But time and time again with President Donald J. Trump, when it seemed like the world was falling apart, he came in and brought it back together.
	He had these guys back there attacking him, left and right.
	He had the swamp going after him, and he was still getting stuff done.
	And now we have stumbling, bumbling Joe Biden.
	81 million votes.
	My ass.
	81 million votes my ass!
	You failed, failed, back better!
	You middle-fingered the middle class!
	They pissed off an already pissed off woman.
	81 million votes my ass!
	I was in the room at the CPAC gala when I heard her say that, 81 million votes my ass.
	I wish I had come up with the idea, the truth bombers idea of turning it into a song.
	Carrie, are you shocked that that phrase is now one of the best selling songs or has become part of one of the best selling songs on iTunes?
	Well, I mean, just to think, you know, you asked what's been surprising about this whole thing.
	You know, if you would have told me when I walked away from my job, Kerry, you're going to be fine.
	You're going to lead a political movement of We The People.
	You're going to be a billboard top selling artist.
	You're going to be a best selling author.
	I just could never have believed that.
	But again, this is where we are, and this is, I believe, God always has a bigger plan for you than you can even imagine.
	So when you hand your life over to Him, amazing things happen.
	And frankly, when you do the right thing.
	Amazing things happen and that's where we are in this country.
	Correct, correct, correct.
	The book is Unafraid, Just Getting Started.
	I want to finish the story of your decision or the ramifications of your decision to start a political life after incredible success in media in Arizona.
	What was the reaction of colleagues and of family and friends?
	Did they think you're nuts?
	No, I think that, you know, I'd been working from home for maybe eight or nine months at that point, so I wasn't seeing my day-to-day colleagues like you would walk into a newsroom anymore.
	I was really kind of working from home.
	And so my friends and support group, when I first said I was going to quit, my closest friend, Lisa, and I talk about this in the book said, oh, you're just having a bad week. And I
	said, no, no, no, this isn't a bad week. I mean, we've all had bad weeks at work, right? This
	is a something that I've been thinking about that's been eating at me and I'm walking away. Many
	of the colleagues didn't reach out to me. And that's kind of sad. And I think for some, they were
	afraid to reach out because they probably were afraid to get in trouble with the station.
	It's like if I'm walking away, they didn't want to get in trouble if they reached out to somebody who's Leaving the station.
	And that's okay.
	I still love the people I worked with.
	We had really great memories and times, but this isn't just, wasn't closing a chapter in my life.
	This was closing a book in my life and starting an entirely new book.
	And the people that I have met, I've lost friends in the media.
	Many are liberal and they just can't stand the fact that I'm running and having a conservative movement that's growing in strength.
	But for every friend I've lost, I have gained hundreds, maybe thousands of new friends who are real, loyal, true friends.
	And I don't regret any losses.
	I love the gains that I've made, and I love what I'm doing to, I believe, help save our country.
	Well let's focus on that seminal line, 81 million votes my ass.
	Talk to us about 2020.
	Talk to us about what you experienced in Arizona and your continued fight.
	How bad is the situation when it comes to fraud in our elections, Carrie?
	It's outrageous.
	It's horrendous.
	It's going to destroy our country if we don't get serious about it.
	When I ran, some people who were political said, don't talk about masks and don't talk about vaccines.
	Don't talk about COVID.
	Whatever you do, don't talk about the 2020 election or even the perception that there's anything wrong.
	And I said, are you kidding?
	Oh, and then they added, don't talk about the border.
	I go, What do you want me to talk about?
	These are the issues that matter to people.
	And so I immediately went in and started talking about all those things because those are the issues that people care about.
	The corruption is horrible.
	We are revealing how they're Cheating in our elections, stealing elections, however you want to call it, rigging elections.
	And they're so worried about it, they're now suing me for speaking out about it.
	Can you believe that?
	Yeah.
	They filed a lawsuit for me because I am revealing what they've done.
	And I will continue to speak out about what they've done.
	We have evidence and we have data that backs up what they've done.
	But anybody who believes Joe Biden won 81 million votes, they've just, they've turned off their brain.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	Besides the fact that there's a bunch of evidence proving he didn't, just think for a second that how did Joe Biden win, I believe it's 12 million more votes than Obama won?
	Does anybody believe that?
	My thing is this.
	Don't talk to me about voting machines.
	Don't talk to me about forensic evidence.
	Are you telling me a machine politician of 47 years who had two brain aneurysms and hid in his basement got more votes than the first black president?
	As you said, they've just switched off their brains if they believe that.
	And then don't insult our intelligence by trying to force us to believe that garbage.
	Just like Fauci trying to force us to believe a bunch of his garbage.
	We're done with that and if we don't start and flip our brains on and start looking at what's common sense and what makes sense, we are going to lose this republic.
	When you were fighting and continue to fight the fraud, I always say, don't talk to me about machines.
	Don't talk to me about algorithms.
	That's just too hard to prove.
	That takes years of forensic, you know, court cases.
	It's old school cheating that we have to stop, right?
	It's corrupt voter rolls.
	It's bundling up votes.
	It's going into the old people's homes.
	You know, there are ways to steal elections that the Democrats have been using for 60 years.
	Isn't that where we should start?
	Absolutely.
	I mean, one of the things they did is going into tens of thousands of registered voters on the voting roll, right as the ballots were about to be sent out.
	And they went in, somebody went in and switched just one digit in all of those zip codes.
	So when all of those ballots went out, tens of thousands of them, They went out and got returned, could not be deliverable.
	That's how they were grabbing ballots to then send off to NGOs and non-profits to be filled out and then shoved into the system.
	They did that with tens of thousands of people.
	That's what they euphemistically or in an Orwellian sense called curating ballots, correct?
	I don't know if that's what they call it.
	No, I think that's just called, that's how they were able to get ballots for them to fill out for the people they wanted to fill it out.
	And then they would change it and those people would have to get another ballot sent to them.
	And so you'd have two ballots out there floating around.
	It's really, there's a thousand ways they cheat and our movement is so massive they had to incorporate all 1,000.
	And they'll find a million ways to do it if we don't stop it.
	The machines are bad.
	We know that they did three days of testing after their official logic and accuracy test, which was October 11th.
	They snuck around and did three additional days of testing without observers there, where they opened up the machine and changed the settings on the machine and then tested and found out that close to 60% of them would fail.
	They rolled out the failing machines on election day to the Republican areas.
	They wanted to sabotage.
	In my opinion, that was intentional.
	They wanted to sabotage Election Day because they knew They couldn't stuff enough ballots in the front end.
	They had to sabotage Election Day to stop the movement because all of our people, many of them, were showing up on Election Day and they had to stop that fast-moving train.
	It's a shocking statistic.
	I just heard it last week.
	Less than 25% of Americans actually voted on Election Day in 2020.
	That is un-American.
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	Carrie, as we get ready for the next election, you have been out there, I don't know how many tens of thousands of people you've spoken to, not just in Arizona but across the country, What are you learning as a newly minted politician?
	What are you learning from your fellow Americans in terms of how they look at the situation in America and what they care about?
	Well, first of all, I'm learning that the fake news and just the negative articles that are written about me, which is pretty constant, are not the sentiment of Americans.
	I'm all over this country.
	I've even been outside this country.
	They're following what's happening here.
	And they are begging me, stay in the fight.
	You have the case that continues to move forward.
	Stay in the fight.
	I mean, everywhere I go, Seb, I went to New York a couple months ago, and I thought, wow, this is going to be ugly.
	This is a liberal city.
	They're going to be throwing their, you know, coffee in my face.
	Who knows what could happen?
	Not one New Yorker said anything nasty.
	As a matter of fact, as I was walking down the streets of Manhattan, New Yorkers would stop, turn around, come back toward me and say, thank you for fighting.
	We love fighters in New York.
	We need you to keep fighting.
	What's happening is wrong in this country.
	I just got back from New York and the same sentiment.
	There are many people who are Republican.
	They're becoming America first because they're watching their city be overrun with crime.
	The streets are filthy.
	The homeless situation is untenable.
	They can't even ride the subway.
	So even in our bluest cities and states, people are waking up.
	They realize that politics as usual has what's gotten us into this.
	This uniparty with Democrats and Republicans and pushing only for their own special interests has led America into a free fall.
	And it's going to take America first policies like the ones Donald Trump introduced to get us out of this mess.
	But herein lies the problem.
	America's awake.
	They're ready to vote America first.
	If we have corrupt elections, how do we get our people into office?
	And that's why I'm fighting the elections in the court system.
	It's difficult.
	Americans are very concerned about where things are going.
	And I want to give them hope.
	As long as we stay in this fight demanding reform of our elections, we can win it.
	I know there have been other times in our history Whether you go back 247 years ago, I'm sure our founding fathers were scared to death as they signed their name to the Declaration of Independence.
	And I'm sure that during the Civil War, our men who were in those battles and their wives and families were scared to death what was happening.
	And we got through that.
	We've been through difficult times in this country.
	We will get through this, but we won't get through it if people go silent, if they go quiet, if they remain afraid.
	We have to move past that fear so that we're all unafraid.
	And when we're looking for allies in order to do all of this, the GOP and the RNC are wanting, are they not?
	They could do better.
	They certainly could do better.
	I'm hoping that some of them will wake up.
	And, you know, I thought it was interesting watching President Trump's rally in South Carolina.
	And you saw the reception that Lindsey Graham, the senator from South Carolina, he's in his hometown and he was practically booed off the stage.
	The American people are awake.
	And so if these politicians, as usual, bureaucrats, as usual, the people running the RNC, the people running the GOP, If that didn't send a shiver down their spine, I don't know what does.
	Because the people are on to what's happening.
	And I don't think they want to take much more of it.
	So it's time for people who've been on the wrong side of this battle to take a look at the playing field.
	And see what's going on and come over to the right side, the side of the American people.
	I believe we are at a good versus evil point in our lives right now.
	It's not Democrat versus Republican.
	I must remind your amazing listeners, Seb, that the people who rigged the elections, who run the elections in Arizona are Republicans.
	They have an R behind their name.
	They're Republicans who absolutely hate America First candidates.
	They actually ran a super PAC raising tens of thousands of dollars before the primary to try to bring me down because I'm an America first candidate and they realized that I had the people with me and they said we got to bring her down no matter what we do.
	And these are the people running our elections.
	And they want us to believe that they ran the elections well.
	They called it a hiccup, what happened.
	It's the most outrageous thing I've ever seen, what's happening in elections in Maricopa County.
	It's what I said when I was in the White House and I said it after I left the White House.
	President Trump won despite the GOP, not thanks to the GOP.
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	They know that we can defeat them.
	They know that we will defeat them.
	But they're not coming after me, they're coming after you.
	I'm just standing in their way.
	And I always will stand in their way.
	My former boss, President Trump, making a very simple statement.
	He's said it before.
	He's said it multiple times at campaign rallies and there he was on Truth Social.
	It's not about me.
	It's not about the Feds raiding my home or arresting me and reigning me in Miami.
	I'm just the guy who's getting in the way.
	One person who's very Trumpian, who has the President's support and who supports him, is our special guest Carrie Lake, one-on-one here on America First.
	Carrie, talk to us about why you support President Trump and you use the word again and again and again, America First.
	Why is that so important to you?
	Well, I support him and I trust him because I saw what he did for our country.
	He spoke for the average man and woman out there just trying to live an honest life and work hard and live by the principles of our nation.
	And he actually was supporting them.
	Most of these big corporations have lobbyists.
	President Trump was our lobbyist, the man and the woman lobbying.
	for the American people, and I'm so honored.
	In my new book, he writes the foreword.
	It's beautifully written.
	You can actually hear him.
	As I read it, I can hear his voice as I read it, and I just know that he's in this for the right reasons.
	He did not need this headache at all.
	He lives a beautiful life.
	He has a gorgeous family, a wonderful wife, and children and grandchildren.
	He's got beautiful properties all over the world.
	Why would he want to step into the swamp?
	Well, I know why, because he recognized what was going wrong.
	He could see, he's so smart, he could see how these politicians were selling us out, literally selling us out like Joe Biden has.
	And so I support him 100%.
	I support him 1000%.
	It sickens me that some Americans have been turned against him.
	by the most massive brainwashing plan that we've ever seen rolled out in conjunction with the, I believe, the Swamp and the Uniparty, working with the fake news media to try to bring him down.
	By constantly running eight years of negative stories, lies, slanderous, defamatory stories on him, they've been working to turn the American people on the one guy who was actually out fighting for the American people.
	And I will tell every person out there, if you do not love President Trump, if you do not like him, if you don't love what he did for our country, I hate to tell you, you have been a victim of this mass brainwashing scheme.
	That was inflicted on the people of this great country.
	And I'm hoping people will wake up and realize that because he's the only guy in the race right now who's really fighting for America.
	He doesn't need this headache.
	He's doing it anyway.
	He's a fighter and he realizes that we are in the 11th hour to save this country.
	And we got to make sure that man's in the White House to do it.
	So I support him a thousand percent.
	I'm going to do anything I can to get him elected.
	And I want nothing in return for it.
	I just want him to get into the White House Have you ever thought about this Seb?
	Joe Biden has taken payouts from our enemies.
	He's available to the highest bidder.
	The CCP has paid him tens of millions of dollars and his family.
	Ukraine has paid him money.
	These energy companies in Ukraine have paid him.
	He is for sale to the highest bidder.
	The only people he's not for sale to is the American people.
	Maybe we, the people, need to, you know, gather up as much money as we can and try to bribe Joe Biden into doing the right thing for us.
	Maybe if we bundle up some of our hard-earned cash and try to bribe Hunter and Joe, we can get them to secure the southern border.
	If we bundle up our hard-earned money and bribe Joe Biden, perhaps he will start funding the police and restore order on our streets.
	Or maybe if we bribe Joe Biden, if we the people bribe him, we can stop the fentanyl pouring across killing our young people.
	This man is a traitor in my opinion.
	He has no business sitting in the White House and we need to very quickly get President Trump elected and turn this nightmare around.
	What do you say to those people who are Republicans but say, I don't like the mean tweets or he can't win.
	What do you say to those people?
	Well, first of all, he's the only Republican who can win.
	Correct.
	And they're just saying that because they're trying to scare people who are leaning toward voting for Trump.
	They're trying to scare them with that lie.
	I will tell you these other guys cannot win.
	I know that for a fact because I know MAGA.
	I am MAGA through and through and I know there is a group of people who are MAGA voters who just will not cast a vote for anybody except President Trump.
	They won't do it.
	And so if they think one of these other guys is going to get in there, they can't win.
	It's Trump or bust for a lot of people in the MAGA movement.
	And you know, the mean tweets?
	President Trump was standing there alone when he jumped in.
	He had a few people behind him.
	He had his supporters behind him.
	But even his supporters were afraid to speak out at the time because they were being canceled and losing jobs.
	He stood there in that gap.
	He took hits every day.
	He had the media lying about him 24-7, 365 days of the year.
	And the only way he could get his message out was through Twitter.
	And thank God he was brilliant enough to do that, because he would put the message out, and if he would have made it just a mamby-pamby message, the media would have never picked up on it.
	So those mean tweets got the media's attention, then the media would talk about what Trump was tweeting about.
	That's pretty darn brilliant.
	He played the media.
	He played the media like a fiddle, and they ended up covering whatever was on his mind or on his agenda.
	I found it to be quite brilliant.
	And frankly, I'll take a mean tweet over somebody like Biden who can't string two or three words together without wandering off and getting lost.
	We've got to get serious.
	We need serious people for this moment.
	Do you think he should get back on Twitter?
	I think he should.
	Yeah, why not?
	You're going to reach more people.
	I think he eventually will.
	I actually really enjoy Truth Social.
	I think it's great.
	I think Elon is trying to get some of these trolls off of Twitter worries me how many trolls have taken over.
	Just go to one of my posts and you'll see it.
	I am the most trolled person on Twitter.
	So maybe if Trump comes back on, he can take some of the trolls away from me.
	Yeah, alright.
	Could be fun to see him back there.
	I love Truth Social as well, but we need President Trump there back on Twitter also.
	We're talking to Carrie Lake.
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	Carrie, there's a saying we hear every couple of years that this is the most important election in your lifetime.
	Will you explain why this time round it actually is true?
	I believe that and I have believed it all these last previous elections as well, especially in 22 and electing a governor here in Arizona.
	And that's why I'm standing up and fighting because I'm not going to allow fraudulent elections to hold in Arizona.
	But in 2024, our nation is either going to go forward as a republic and be saved.
	Or we will be spiraling down a 1,000 year journey of darkness into what I believe is communism slash globalism.
	It all leads to the same thing.
	It leads to our liberties and freedoms being taken away, the end of our constitution.
	And so I believe that with this election, we have an opportunity to put One man who will stand there and fight for us and fight for our Constitution and fight for common sense policies to get us out of the mess that these politicians have gotten us into over the last many decades.
	And that's Donald Trump.
	I am incredibly impressed with his Agenda 47.
	It is the most transformative policy I've ever seen in all of politics.
	There is a solution, a detailed solution to all of the big issues we're facing right now, from the indoctrination in our schools, to our indoctrination in our universities, to what's happening at the border, tackling the cartels, to allowing for our young people, who right now don't feel they have any access to the American dream, to realize the American dream, be able to be homeowners and start families.
	There's so many great policies there to get us out of the troubles we're in, and I think he'll do it very quickly.
	So this is the most important election.
	I fear that if we do not get President Trump in office in 2024 with that election, that our country's gone and we are moving into this globalist nightmare that Klaus Schwab and, frankly, Joe Biden and all these destructive people are gearing for with our country.
	And when we go down, the world goes down.
	And it's not just billionaires from Queens or news anchors from Arizona who have a role to play, is it, Carrie?
	No, it's moms and dads, everyday people, the same people who've been involved in my movement, who I see when I watch a President Trump rally.
	You look into those crowds, it warms my heart.
	I see men who I can tell are out there working all week to put food on the table for their families.
	I see moms out there.
	In one of the recent South Carolina rallies where President Trump kind of took over the town square, I saw people, it was hot, it was humid, I saw kids.
	The people of this country love President Trump.
	And they are willing to step forward and get involved.
	There's no longer sitting on the sidelines.
	Moms and dads realize that we don't have time to sit on the sidelines.
	If we sit on the sidelines and let this election go, our kids lose their future.
	And so the moms and dads of this world, when they woke up to the nonsense being taught to our children, when they realize that they're going after our kids, They stepped forward and said, okay, I've been busy, I've been raising my little ones, but now I have to step forward with the same intense energy I use to raise my kids, I have to use to save my country.
	They have awoken a sleeping giant in mama bears and papa bears, and we are in this fight until the end, because we want a country for our kids, our grandkids, our great great grandkids that we may never even meet.
	Who are counting on us at this moment to do the right thing.
	Beautifully put, beautifully put.
	I had no idea when you came up to my wife and I three years ago here in the swamp, with a crazy idea where it would lead to, but man have you, have you proven that you are a warrior.
	The book, you have to read it right now, is Unafraid, Just Getting Started.
	God bless you, Carrie Lake.
	Yes.
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