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June 30, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Three victories from Trump's Supreme Court

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	Several weeks ago, in a vote to allow trans students to use whatever bathroom they wish, you assured us that these policies were perfectly safe, as neither yourself nor law enforcement could provide a single example of any trans student assaulting any girl, in any bathroom, in any school, in any state, anywhere at all, in fact.
	But not to worry, since you couldn't locate them, I took the trouble to.
	See, Loudoun County, Virginia, where last year, under district policy, a trans student was allowed into the woman's bathroom, where he assaulted a girl.
	To cover it up, they moved him to another school, where he did it again.
	See, Irvine, California last month, where a trans student entered the women's locker room and flashed the girls there.
	When they confronted him, he mercilessly beat them.
	This happened again in Gwinnett County, Georgia.
	This happened again in Oklahoma City.
	This happened again in Ohio, where a trans man was allowed to use the locker room where he was arrested for flashing little girls.
	The judge dropped the charges after he ruled that this man was too fat for them to see anything.
	Last month, in this city, a man using they-them pronouns, in a scene straight out of Silence of the Lambs, hunted down and killed a female jogger because he, quote, wanted to look just like her.
	And before you say that these are anecdotal evidence, just note that in a survey of trans inmates in federal prisons, Half were convicted of sexual assault, and 90% were convicted of violent crimes well above the general prison population.
	Now, it should also be noted that in each of these cases, each of these perpetrators had either changed their pronouns, had undergone transition, or had received gender-affirming therapy.
	That's what in common vernacular is called bringing the receipts.
	Ben Larrabee at a public meeting talking about the truth of transgenderism and the violence perpetrated against women by fake transgender women.
	I received that video this morning.
	He is associated with Turning Point USA.
	It is superb.
	Something is happening, dear friends.
	The truth will out, as the Bard once wrote.
	And my gosh, what a week it has been.
	Not a good week for the incumbent in the White House, not a good week for the radicalized Democrat Party that believes in open borders, that believes in transgender denial of nature, and believes that But what?
	America is bad?
	What a perverse situation we're in.
	The elite doesn't love the country that they are leading.
	Three Supreme Court decisions in just the same number of days.
	Number one.
	Absolutely enormous.
	Huge.
	Discrimination based upon skin color.
	is unconstitutional as if we were need if there is was a need to tell us that well now it is official Harvard you're in trouble Chapel Hill you're in trouble Yale you are in trouble because you are discriminating in ways that are against the basic law of the United States secondly Religious freedom has been protected.
	A woman who's been waiting seven years for justice because her Christian faith precludes her from providing services to gay couples getting quote-unquote married.
	The Constitution says you can't do that and now the Supreme Court has upheld it.
	And then lastly, in an effort, a desperate effort, to buy votes To expunge the loans of millions of people who went to college and couldn't repay those loans because they took degrees that were irrelevant in the free market?
	No, you can't expunge their loans, Joe Biden, and the Supreme Court has spoken.
	What does that mean for Joe Biden?
	Well, he's going out onto the mainstream legacy-lying media.
	He was with Nicole Wallace talking about the Supreme Court, or at least the question was about the Supreme Court, but his answer wasn't.
	I wonder why.
	Cut seven.
	Play cuts.
	This court seems to say that no, that's not always the case.
	The idea there's no right to privacy in the Constitution, giving states power, that we fought a war over in 1960.
	You know, I just think it's... This is not your father's Republican Party.
	Can anybody with a functioning cerebellum follow that?
	What did he say in the space of 28 seconds?
	He said, what do they mean there's no right to privacy in the Constitution?
	That has nothing to do with the three decisions brought.
	That is actually the fallacious basis for Roe v. Wade.
	The penumbra of the Constitution providing privacy between the doctor and the patient.
	That was struck down last year.
	That was the victory.
	And he's linking that to this week's decisions.
	Then he said, we fought a war over this in the 1960s.
	What?
	The Vietnam War?
	Over what?
	Student loans?
	Or over abortion?
	Or over gay marriage?
	What are you mumbling about?
	And then lastly he says, this is not your father's Republican Party.
	The question wasn't about the Republican Party.
	It was about the Supreme Court.
	What on earth is going on?
	I don't need empirical evidence of voting machines.
	I don't need empirical evidence of bundled votes being stuffed into harvesting boxes at 3am.
	That's your proof The phrase in Latin is non compass mentis.
	Does not have a functioning brain.
	And this is an individual who, by the way, has been in politics for 49 years.
	Yes, 49 years.
	So in that time, as a senator, as a chairman of a senate committee, as a vice president, now, incredibly, as the incumbent commander-in-chief, has given, oh, a few interviews, would you not say?
	In the last half a century, he's given a few interviews on camera.
	So he should probably know how television works, don't you think?
	What did he do in that television studio that everybody and their grandmother on the left are now trying desperately to cover up?
	I'll describe it for you if you aren't watching, if you're only listening, but you know, open up any social media account and you will see the video.
	Nicole Wallace asks a question, and Joe Biden, on air, while things are still rolling, while they haven't gone to commercial, decide to just get up and walk out of the studio.
	If you haven't seen it, you wouldn't believe it.
	But here's the evidence, cut nine.
	You know, as a radio host who does three hours every day, you really shouldn't be speechless.
	but run on them. That's right. Mr. President, thank you.
	Thank you. Thank you very much.
	Thank you. Don't go anywhere. It's a very exciting day around here.
	We'll have reaction and analysis to everything we just heard.
	You know, as a radio host, it is three hours every day. You really shouldn't be speechless.
	But that does leave me speechless. I don't even know if one could compute the number of interviews
	that establishment machine politician has given in the last 49 years.
	Walking off set as the cameras are live?
	Just play it again one more time please Eric.
	Don't go anywhere while he's walking off the set behind her.
	You know the first time I did television was on September the 11th.
	Thank you very much.
	It's great to have you.
	Thank you.
	Don't go anywhere.
	It's a very exciting day around here.
	We'll have reaction and analysis to everything we just heard.
	Don't go anywhere while he's walking off the set behind her.
	You know, the first time I did television was on September the 11th.
	I'd never done television before in my life.
	And I was called into the national TV studios in Budapest.
	They sat me down because I had a background in counter-terrorism.
	I did live television for the next six hours straight on September the 11th.
	And even I knew, don't get up while the cameras have the little red light on, even if you have to desperately go to the toilet.
	I guess the man with the nuclear football next to him doesn't know that.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, it's Friday, we've only just begun, and incredibly excited to have a former member of the Trump cabinet on our show next in studio who hasn't joined us previously.
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	We have in studio...
	A newly minted author, but that's not the news.
	The news is that he is somebody I watched with great admiration as an observer of the President's Trade Council.
	And he is, of course, Ambassador Robert Lighthizer.
	He was the trade representative for the United States Thank you.
	It's a pleasure to be here.
	And he's the author of his first book, hopefully not his last. No trade is free
	Changing course taking on China and helping America's workers ambassador Lighthizer. Welcome to America first
	Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here Thank you
	Now I just want to you know cram about 24 months of postgraduate courses into the next 20 minutes on
	trade if you'd help me out or at least let's disabuse people of some of their
	about free trade.
	It's a good thing.
	Is free trade good?
	And when does free trade not become free trade?
	So there are a whole lot of myths about trade.
	There's this classical economic view of what free trade is.
	The problem with that is that it doesn't exist anywhere in the world.
	What is that classical view?
	Is that the laissez-faire invisible hand?
	It's the kind of, you know, it would be the combination of the invisible hand and then Ricardo the next, a few years later, saying comparative advantage.
	And his notion was that we'll make cloth in England and we'll buy wine from Portugal.
	That was like, this is like the classic of Adam Smith and David Ricardo.
	So it's all just one big market and whoever has the best products will sell the most.
	Yeah, and you have a competitive advantage.
	You're better at making cloth because you have sheep or whatever, and you're better at wine because you're on the side of a hill and the sun comes in or whatever.
	The problem is that it doesn't factor in that governments get involved, create policy that changes those things, number one.
	Number two, it ignores the fact that things like basic environmental standards Should not be a competitive disadvantage.
	It ignores the fact that having labor standards or the like.
	So one way to think about our obligation before we go that far is we have a social compact in America.
	And we say we want efficiency.
	We want cheap prices.
	But certain things are more important than that.
	And those things we all might not say degrees, but we know generally what they are.
	Like safety?
	Safety for workers, for sure.
	The ability of workers to organize if they want, but to have some say.
	Environmental standards, just without question.
	Now, we might argue and say this is ridiculous and this is fine, but we know there are certain things.
	And we make a social compact.
	And we say to ourselves, we're going to pay a little extra because those things are what make civilization, right?
	But what we haven't done is we haven't externalized it.
	So now we have those things.
	Someone who... A U.S.
	company can move its plant to China and not have to worry about the right to organize, not have to worry about safe situations.
	The environment, what have you.
	And then they come in and they ship and they undercut our people.
	And then you add on top of that, there's other industrial policies, right, where they're subsidizing their people, they have a banking system that's giving an advantage to manufacturers over consumers and the like.
	So basically there is no free trade.
	The notion of free trade is fine, it just doesn't exist in the real world.
	And when you came in as U.S.
	trade representative, was that the biggest problem in terms of America and the rest of the world?
	The misunderstandings, the myths, and communicating to the American people what countries like China were doing?
	Or what was the largest obstacle for you as the representative for the president?
	So I like to say that President Trump made two contributions in this field.
	And let's remember that of all the things he ran on, this could be number one.
	He has been talking about trade and how we're getting ripped off, that's his term, since he was 35 years old.
	You watch videos from the 70s and 80s.
	Exactly.
	And I say I'm talking about this in the book.
	In 1987, he spent $100,000 of his own money to put out an ad talking about this in the New York Times.
	We all kind of vaguely remember that.
	And the reality is that we were running huge deficits.
	They were not the result of fair trade in any way at all.
	And the accumulation of those deficits was making America poorer.
	So we had two things.
	One, we wanted to focus on workers and jobs, which is all we talked about, and not on corporate profits and price optimization.
	So that's the first thing.
	And then the second thing was China, China, China.
	Yes.
	I mean, the reality is China is a existential threat, a Hostile adversary, and yet every year we give them four, five, six, seven hundred billion dollars to build their army, to build their navy.
	They're the biggest army in the world, the biggest navy in the world.
	We're paying for that.
	They're getting to get the best technology in the world.
	That is done with money from American workers.
	And it's an idiotic situation, and literally no one until President Trump challenged it.
	When I came into the administration, I didn't think we could turn America around on this issue.
	Thanks to you, thanks to the President, remarkable things were done in just the first 18 months in terms of waking up America to China.
	Do you concur?
	Absolutely.
	I told the President once, and I honestly believe this, I said, Mr. President, when your grandchildren read about your history, they're going to read about what you did on China and a lot of footnotes.
	And I honestly believe that.
	It is like, if you think about Churchill, you have one thought.
	If you think about Reagan, it's winning the Cold War.
	And this is what it's going to be.
	We turned the battleship around, and now we're facing the bloody enemy, and we're moving in the right direction.
	Now we have this little hiccup, this four-year hiccup.
	And COVID.
	Don't forget COVID.
	A big hiccup followed by a second hiccup.
	But he will be remembered for the incredible job he did in turning the battleship around to face China and deal with it.
	We have in studio his trade representative, Ambassador Robert Lighthizer.
	The book is No Trade Is Free.
	We will continue the discussion.
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	And don't forget my substack sebastiangorka.substack.com So in the seventies and eighties When you saw those interviews or those ads, what did you think?
	Did you think that's interesting?
	Why is a businessman doing that?
	Or did you think that potentially political aspirations?
	So it was the 80s.
	And by the 80s, remember, by the... So he did the big one in 87.
	By then, I had already been deputy USTR of the Reagan administration.
	I mean, I had been living this stuff for years.
	My first taste of trade.
	So I got out of law school.
	I went to a major law firm in town.
	And then I went up and became Bob Dole, staff director on the Senate Finance Committee.
	And in 79, we had a major bill.
	There's been two huge trade bills, trade negotiation implementing bills.
	One in Clinton, and then the next one was this one that happened in Carter and that I was there for.
	So I got a taste, a huge taste of trade then.
	Then I went into the Reagan administration.
	So I mean, I was all on board.
	I agreed with him completely.
	I thought we were getting screwed like the devil.
	Then by a lot of people, but mostly Japan.
	But there was a difference, because Japan was our ally, and they liked us.
	And China is not either of those things.
	They don't like us.
	Japan's not building an army to fight us.
	No, that's exactly right.
	That's exactly right.
	They took our job, they took all of our wealth, they rebuilt themselves, but they weren't
	trying to eat us.
	And then did you think that this is a guy who maybe should get into politics when you
	saw those ads and those statements?
	So there was talk about that at various times.
	And I did an article that you can look up, Google, that said something like, they were
	saying Donald Trump, it was 2012 or 11, they said Donald Trump is a liberal because he's
	against free trade.
	And I wrote an article that was published somewhere that said, I don't know whether he's a liberal or conservative, but his position on trade is the Republican position and it's the conservative position.
	And I took people through the history of it.
	I said, this is just not accurate.
	And we can talk about that because I think it's important for people to know that.
	No, absolutely.
	Because people say that, you know, that's not conservative.
	It's protectionist.
	It's anti-trade.
	It's all this garbage.
	It is completely wrong.
	There's no history at our party or more importantly in our thought that's consistent with free trade.
	Perfect.
	Yep.
	Oh, can you come in here with, um, actually let's save that for the next block.
	Let's save, uh, um, no, no.
	Come in with, with the president here.
	Come in with the president here.
	Yeah.
	For the monologue, a bad week for Joe Biden.
	A very bad week for Joe Biden.
	That's a little bit convoluted.
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	you This isn't my trade war.
	This is a trade war that should have taken place a long time ago by a lot of other presidents.
	Over the last five or six years, China's made $500 billion.
	$500 billion.
	Ripped it out of the United States.
	And not only that, if you take a look, intellectual property theft.
	Add that to it.
	And add a lot of other things to it.
	So somebody, excuse me, somebody had to do it.
	I am the chosen one.
	Somebody had to do it.
	So I'm taking on China.
	I'm taking on China on trade.
	And you know what?
	We're winning.
	I missed that cut from way back when, the president calling himself the chosen one.
	Well he was in this case, because nobody wanted to take on China.
	I didn't even think it was possible.
	But he did it, and we need him to do it again.
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	We are back with Ambassador Robert Lighthizer, former U.S.
	Trade Representative for President Trump, a man who I watched at work in the West Wing and was always very impressed.
	Ambassador Lighthizer, you have a new book, No Trade is Free Trade.
	Can you just smack on the head the hoary old canard that what you represented, what President Trump represented, isn't conservative, isn't Republican, you're protectionist, and you don't believe in free trade?
	So, well, I mean, for sure, I don't believe in free trade, but let me take you through the history of it.
	First of all, the father of American conservatism is probably Alexander Hamilton.
	He was the one who designed a system of supporting U.S.
	industry, having tariffs build up American manufacturing.
	All right.
	Fast forward from there to the American system.
	That's what it was called.
	That was what Henry Clay called it.
	Lincoln, probably his favorite politician was Henry Clay.
	You go from Lincoln all the way to Eisenhower, you have a period of Republican dominance.
	It's all conservative.
	There are 12 presidents, and every single one of them, if you said, are you a protectionist, would say, I'm a protectionist.
	But even if they didn't, they were all for tariffs to build up American industry and to protect our businesses, but in my sense, our workers.
	Then you have Eisenhower, whose objective was to beat the Soviets at the end of the war, and that's fine.
	And then you go forward, you have Nixon.
	Nixon took very strong actions.
	We had a trade deficit, a huge trade deficit, a drop in the bucket by comparison to now, but it was significant then.
	In 1971, he put tariffs on the whole bloody world.
	Richard Nixon.
	Then you go forward to the next man who I worked for and loved was Ronald Reagan.
	Ronald Reagan, the libertarians said Ronald Reagan was the most protectionist president in American history with the exception of Hoover.
	That was literally what they said when he left office.
	He put limitations on autos coming in.
	He put limitations on steel.
	He did semiconductor deals.
	He went right down the line and took care of American industry.
	He talked about free trade, but he acted like A nationalist.
	But when did the word protectionist become a bad word?
	But we're talking about protecting American workers, American companies.
	So when did it become pejorative?
	Is it when people needed an excuse to make cheap garbage in China and sell it here?
	What was the genesis of it?
	Yeah, yes.
	You see, I don't know.
	It was never a negative term for me.
	As I say, it was something you would brag about.
	Yes!
	But when we got into the 20th century and well into the 20th century it did.
	It became a pejorative, as you say.
	Now, let me take a step back.
	So I've established that this is the position of the Republican Party.
	Let me take a step back and let's think about this philosophically for a second.
	Free trade is about consumption and optimizing prices.
	Get the cheapest stuff in here, alright?
	Our position is about production and taking care of the workers.
	Those are the two things, alright?
	Now, one is really materialism.
	That's the opposite of conservative.
	Conservatism is about values.
	It's about preserving institutions.
	It's the conserve.
	We're conserving our values, our institutions.
	We want to conserve the family.
	That's what we do.
	That is the exact opposite of consumption and materialism.
	What we're trying to do is work on production.
	We want Americans to, I mean, tell me if this is a conservative view or not, we want Americans to work and take pride in their work and stay together as families and communities and that combination of all those communities that we're building up through this trade policy and other things that you and I agree with and other things, that's what makes America great.
	This, my gosh, I cannot wait to get to the end of this book, No Trade Is Free, because that's the crucial point.
	If our trade relations undermine our values as a nation, how can that be conservative?
	It can't.
	We're talking to Ambassador Robert Lighthizer, former US Trade Representative in the Trump administration.
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	Is this question of trade deficits and transferring wealth to China.
	So... Well, I want to get... We've got... Where do you have to be next?
	At what time?
	Oh, I have a... I have a... I don't even have my schedule.
	I have a call.
	A press call.
	Let me just see when I... My phone's... It's... OK.
	Well, can we keep you on for, like, another 10, 15 minutes?
	Yeah, that's fine.
	Let's talk about that.
	And also, I want to ask you about Relations with China is decoupling fantasy.
	How do we manage that in the future?
	So and what has to happen in a second Trump administration?
	Okay, and that really is what the book is about several people have sort of well the president in his truth said you want to know what I'm going to read the book.
	When was that truth?
	Do you know?
	It was, it was yesterday.
	Okay.
	Um, you know, if you go to your thumb once again, let's find it.
	It's a great, you ought to read it.
	There were two truths in a while.
	One where he says I'm the greatest USTR in history.
	And second, he says, um, you know what, this is, this will tell you what it's going to be, but I could probably find it.
	If you, I can find it.
	It has a picture of the book in the second tweet.
	Truth, not tweet.
	truth.
	Let's have a look.
	President Trump.
	Can you find the I'm just in the way from the president?
	Thank you.
	He has been busy.
	Yeah, he's got lots of them.
	Truth Social.
	You said he's got a picture of the book?
	Yeah, it's got a picture of the book.
	I'm going to go to Truth.
	And I'm going to click on President.
	Then I'm going to scroll back until I see a picture of the book.
	Oh, got it.
	Got it, got it, got it.
	There are two of them.
	There's one.
	That's the second one.
	Can you see him?
	I've got the one with the cover.
	The other one is right before it.
	So there.
	Oh yes, got it.
	Got both of them.
	I'm going to read it on air.
	The best trade rep in history.
	I had a guy, I met with a Mexican.
	He was a great guy.
	You can't see it.
	Making sense.
	Out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Getting all kind of tips for new guests from our ambassador in studio.
	I'm just quickly scribbling them down.
	And why do I listen to this man?
	Not only did he impress me when I, old Steve Bannon put me on his council as an observer in the White House.
	I'm not a trade guy.
	I'm a counterterrorism national security guy.
	But I watched him closely duking it out with a certain Mr. Cohen and I was very, very impressed.
	So was our boss!
	This is what he posted on Truth Social yesterday.
	Robert Lighthizer, the greatest United States trade representative in American history, just released a new book.
	Yeah, that's the kind of posting you should probably frame.
	And then he put a picture of the book on Truth Social.
	Get it right now.
	No trade is free, changing course, taking on China and helping America's workers, which is what it should be about.
	And let's not make protectionism a pejorative word anymore.
	Ambassador Lighthizer, Who's responsible for all of this?
	Is it Kissinger opening to China?
	Is it Palo Alto and Big Tech saying, yeah, we need those markets?
	Why did we truly facilitate and fund the rise of our greatest enemy in the last 40 years?
	So this is interesting.
	You know, it goes back, OK, to a decision made By Republicans, but with Bill Clinton as president.
	It was a vote in 2020.
	Now let me just say, I'm going to try to do this real quickly.
	In 1997, I wrote an article that said, you remember all this Indonesian money that was coming into the Clinton campaign?
	Yes.
	Remember that story?
	This New York Times article said, no, actually it wasn't Indonesian money at all.
	It was Chinese money.
	And I showed how it was true.
	And then I said, and what does China want by pulling this money into the Clinton campaign?
	I said, they want to get most favored nation, that is to say, guaranteed lowest tariffs in America and into the WTO.
	And I said, if they do, There will not be an American job safe.
	This is 1997.
	Some people say, how did we know?
	Well, I knew.
	I mean, I could see it right then what they were going to do.
	Three years later, on the way out the door, as he puts the last desk into a van, he gets this thing to pass with a lot of Republicans.
	Clinton.
	Clinton with a lot of Republicans it gives this thing to pass and what it does is it says now you
	Permanently have the lowest tariffs that we have they had lower tariffs before but every year they could be taken
	away So you're gonna take a u.s. Plant move it out of Cleveland,
	Ohio To someplace in China. Are you gonna do it?
	If you're gonna lose the the tariff break the next year or it could happen
	But as soon as we made it permanent they started moving over there. Can anything be done about that ambassador?
	Well, I mean absolutely for sure you say one of the things we should be doing for sure is we have to get back to
	balanced trade With China.
	I'm not for no trade.
	I just want no tech trade, and I want balanced trade.
	So that at least, look it, when we run a deficit with China, we are essentially shifting our wealth, and we can talk through that, to China.
	And if you want to add up, you say, Bob, how big a problem is, let me take you through this quickly.
	It's the trade deficit, say $380 billion, big number.
	There's probably another $200 billion that's not counted for because of a mistaken way
	they do the numbers, and I'll get into that.
	So now we're up to five-something.
	$300 billion a year in technology theft value stolen from us.
	Then there's shipments through third countries.
	Then there's all the fentanyl.
	How much money do they make sending fentanyl precursors to Mexico and sending it to us that's killing American kids?
	You add all that up, we're probably transferring seven or eight hundred billion dollars a year, trillions of dollars, since this fateful decision.
	And what have you done with it?
	They build the biggest army in the world, the biggest Navy in the world, the best technology, influence our politicians.
	So if that's the case, shouldn't we be arguing, as conservatives, for decoupling?
	Absolutely.
	Strategic decoupling, for sure.
	We've got some great people in the Congress, and particularly in the House, you've got some really good people.
	Who'd you like?
	Give us some names.
	Mike Gallagher is the chairman.
	He's really good.
	Jason Smith, the Ways and Means Committee.
	By the way, these people are younger than my kids, but that's what happens.
	Mike Gallagher was my intern as a young Marine officer.
	He was my intern.
	And look at Congressman Christian North, he's a Democrat, who's ranking on that committee.
	These are people that know it, and I think you're going to see them start bringing bills up.
	We'll see what happens.
	My advice to Republicans is bring up, don't wait for a big bill, bring up one after another, make people cast their vote for China.
	Or for America?
	Publicly, they have to choose a side.
	And then Biden will be on China's side.
	See, Biden will be on China's side.
	So they'll die in the Senate.
	Biden will not support it.
	And you're saying, OK, people make a choice.
	And the Democrats that I know and I like are all going to be on America's side.
	You mentioned Big Tech.
	Is there any way we can decouple them from this Faustian bargain?
	Because, I mean, when Apple's making their, you know, has their artificial intelligence research facility in China, how do we decouple them?
	Well, number one, when I say strategic decoupling, it's got to be done over time.
	It's got to be phased in.
	Nothing can be done instantly, but you've got to tell people on day one, and that's really what Trump did.
	He said, the ballgame's different.
	The big con is over.
	The ballgame is different.
	So what you have to do is say, now there's a new rule.
	We're going to phase in tariffs.
	We have two things in the great technology battle, two advantages with China.
	One, we still have the best companies.
	And two, we have the biggest market.
	Nobody can make a living in the tech business if they're not selling in the U.S., period.
	China is the second biggest market.
	But they're closed.
	It's a scam over there.
	So the next biggest one is Japan.
	They're a quarter our size.
	So the reality is we can use our market power and influence on our companies and we can begin this process.
	And by the way, one last thing.
	China is doing just the opposite of this.
	China is trying to become independent themselves.
	They're trying to decouple from us.
	With Huawei and everything else.
	With the way they're controlling the technology, all of that stuff.
	And by the way, they say it.
	It's not like I'm making this up.
	They say that's what they're doing.
	This is the stunning thing.
	I think it was Simon Wiesenthal, the legendary Nazi hunter, said, You know, sooner or later, you should take seriously when a group of people or a nation says they want to destroy you.
	China hasn't kept its plans secret!
	They talk about them openly!
	For 2048, for the 100th anniversary of the communist founding of modern China, they want to be THE hegemonic nation in the world.
	Every other country a satrapy, a tributary nation.
	Or a destroyed nation.
	This isn't classified.
	It's not hypothetical.
	It's what they say.
	All right, I'm going to ask him.
	We have one more short segment left.
	What do we need to do in the next Trump administration?
	God willing, that's with Ambassador Robert Lighthizer, the author of the new book, No Trade Is Free.
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	First of all, I've got a terrible voice, and I'm hoarse half the time.
	But they gave me three people.
	I got it down to two, and I had my kids listen.
	My daughter said, you do know that one guy you liked at is Canadian.
	I said, what?
	She said, oh yeah, I Google him.
	She's like... I'm not having this book be on Canadians.
	I was so angry.
	My first book, Defeating Jihad, My publisher said, uh, you're only going to be allowed to read the prologue.
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	I said, are you kidding me?
	So when I wrote Two and Three, I said, no, I am reading the whole book.
	Oh, did you?
	Really?
	Good for you.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's very, it's a lot tougher than you think.
	Oh, I know.
	I mean, look, I, I'm terrible at oral reading.
	I was terrible at oral reading when I was in third grade.
	So I'm not, it's literally not an option for me.
	I got to sue and I got to make a, I got a call.
	We can give you somewhere quiet if you need to make a call after the show.
	We can get you a car to wherever you see best.
	I've got this bloody one bloody schedule after another.
	The next segment's only three minutes long and then we'll release it.
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	I think, take me back, and I can make a thing from the car.
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	If we do our part, President Trump comes in for a second term, he's not going to let up on China.
	What is the unfinished business for the next four years?
	Where do we start and where do we have to end up?
	So what we have to do is we started the process of strategic decoupling.
	That's what we did.
	He, first in American history, put $370 billion in tariffs himself on Chinese goods.
	So we have to increase those tariffs.
	We have to get back to where we're forcing people to have balanced trade.
	So number one, stop transferring hundreds of billions of dollars to China to build up their army.
	That's number one.
	There's a question of technology.
	You have to disentangle our technology.
	You have to use tariffs.
	You have to use export controls.
	And then you have to use... When you say disentangle technology, that means don't have American companies developing cutting-edge products in China.
	In China and together with Chinese companies, right?
	And we can do that.
	We can pressure our companies.
	We can make it expensive for them to sell in the U.S.
	Remember, they have to always end up selling here.
	So we can do that.
	The third thing we have to do is we have to put strict limits on investment from the U.S.
	by any American into China and stricter limits on their shipment stuff.
	Here's a problem people don't even think about.
	We have working men and women whose part of their pension is invested through these clever New Yorkers into Chinese companies that aren't even audited.
	So there's a whole big problem here.
	We are literally, our investments in China Are literally feeding the crocodile.
	And what about what the Chinese are doing here in America?
	See, right now we have this CFIUS, and I was on that board and was involved in it.
	We need to make that much stronger.
	It shouldn't just be national offense.
	Why should they be able to do something that economically hurts us?
	It shouldn't just be national offense.
	And by the way, all I'm asking for is reciprocity.
	You don't think they can invest here without government approval, or we can invest here without government approval?
	There's not a chance.
	Right.
	We have the plan!
	I want to see him.
	I want to be back, you know, observing him running the trade council in the West Wing.
	Are you ready to make that happen?
	In the meantime, read the plan.
	He was the president's man and he knows what it's going to take to finish the job.
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	Thank you, Deep Voice Dave, although you do give me a run for my money.
	Jeff, what did you think?
	Was that a little bit too dry?
	I really got into that discussion with Ambassador Lighthizer, President Trump's trade representative.
	I like the trade topic and I always like when it's bashing China.
	It's unbiased.
	Eric, did you like it?
	I agree.
	Trade is absolutely one of, like, the three core pillars of President Trump's entire America First agenda.
	So it's a necessary conversation.
	And just what he said that, you know, in a hundred years from now in history books, the first thing President Trump will be remembered for is that he dealt that blow to China with his trade deals.
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	Let us recap.
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	Let us prognosticate.
	With the one and only, we just call him the Baron, Boris Epstein!
	Welcome back to America First!
	Happy Friday!
	Sebastian, it's an honor to be with you, honored to be with your audience, and it's been a great week, and it's about to get even better.
	President Trump is scheduled to start speaking any moment in Philadelphia.
	I'm so excited.
	My wife is there in the audience.
	She's one of the speakers at the Moms4Liberty event, waiting for President Trump to be the keynote.
	As soon as we hear what he is going to address that amazing group of patriots on, we will keep you apprised.
	But let's talk about the week.
	Let's talk about the amazing Supreme Court decision.
	But before that, my Lord Boris, let's just play in the background his B-roll.
	They're so desperate they rolled out the senile old man on Nicole Wallace's show and Biden does what?
	I mean, how many interviews has this guy given in the last 49 years?
	And he gets up and walks out of the studio while the cameras are still live.
	Boris, they can't hide his senility any longer.
	It's a huge problem, and the media knows it, too.
	The Wall Street Journal doing a story on how Biden, a crooked joke, goes off script during donor meetings, donor events, and just gets himself into all kinds of trouble.
	This would be funny if it weren't sad and dangerous, Sebastian, as you so aptly point out time and time and time again.
	Think about the way that this is perceived by China, by Iran, by Russia.
	This is a huge issue, a huge problem, and it's a huge embarrassment for the United States of America.
	That's why we need President Trump and his power, his leadership, back as soon as possible.
	Well, we were talking about plans for the next administration with Ambassador Lighthouse.
	You know, we need him back as soon as possible, but it's up to us.
	Let's just listen, Boris.
	To the way the corporate media tried to cover for this demonstrable act of senility.
	This is Joe Scarborough, who hates President Trump, and Al Sharpton, the race hustler extraordinaire, just trying to justify it.
	Cut 10.
	When the president left the studio from the cold, he came and met with me for about 10 or 15 minutes.
	He probably was looking for where his meetings were going to be when he was leaving.
	He was not stumbling around.
	The Secret Service was directing him.
	I think Alex has a picture of him and I meeting here.
	So he wasn't lost.
	I think the post was lost.
	Yeah, no, he wasn't lost at all.
	I mean, you could see again him in a hurry to get out of the chair and get out and meet somebody really important.
	And we all know that person, Ralph, was you.
	I got the picture from Alex to prove it.
	Baron, that's just embarrassing.
	So, this is where the mainstream media is.
	They now have to convince each other and spend time trying to convince and failing to convince the American public on whether the sitting president of the United States is a law starter.
	No, no, no, he's not.
	You'd think Joe Biden knew who he was meeting with next.
	I've got every single bridge in Brooklyn.
	Every bridge in Manhattan.
	Every bridge up and down the eastern seaboard to sell to anybody who believes that Joe Biden knew where he was going and knew who his next so-called meeting was with.
	Stop lying to us.
	No, no.
	It's literally like the old John Lovitz character from Saturday Night Live, the liar.
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	He's not lost.
	He was going to the meeting.
	Sure, the meeting.
	It is a joke.
	It's a despicable, dangerous joke, though, because the American people are in danger.
	We're in danger of all our adversaries.
	There's been a lot, obviously, going on in Russia.
	One thing that isn't pointed out nearly enough, but you always do, is that that's a nuclear state.
	All that instability, all this complete failure by the Biden administration to keep calm in the world, it is happening around nuclear capabilities.
	Boris, you can bet that Putin doesn't senilely walk off a set while the cameras are live.
	And I bet they're playing that tape right now in the Kremlin.
	Alright, trick question for you, Baron.
	Is loyalty important to you?
	Yes.
	I know it is.
	You are loyal to the President, to MAGA, and to America First.
	Loyalty is of utmost importance to me.
	I know, I know it is.
	There's somebody who has problems with it, or seems to misinterpret it, and he's the current incumbent governor of Florida, who made a very strange statement to my buddy Jesse Waters on Fox.
	I want to get your reaction.
	Cut to.
	Trump says you're disloyal.
	Do you feel that way?
	Disloyal to who?
	I mean, you know, politicians have to earn support.
	They're not entitled to support.
	I did a lot for him in 2016 and 2020, by the way.
	I was happy to do it.
	But at the end of the day, you know, I'm loyal to my family, to our Constitution, and to the good Lord.
	So I guess it was Ron DeSantis, the no-name representative who got President Trump elected in 2016, and President Trump still has to prove himself to Ron.
	You know what the beauty of that clip is?
	What?
	It encapsulates so perfectly why President Trump gave Rob, or Ron, or Rod, The best, I think one of the best, at least the top three nicknames of DeSanctimonious.
	That right there encapsulates DeSanctimonious.
	First of all, she looks like a tiny angry little boy.
	What happened to that guy?
	He used to maybe have a little gravitas.
	Now he's just shaking his head uncontrollably.
	He's a total mess, okay?
	And he's, oh, no, no.
	And also, it would be kind of nice if he said that he were loyal to his constituents in Florida, but we know he isn't because he lied to them.
	He ran for re-election as governor, just got re-elected, and now he's been spending the last, what, seven, eight months first pretending to run for president and now failing to run for president.
	The guy's a total disaster, he's completely disloyal, and he has run the sanctimonious.
	Now I don't know if you've been following the story, we didn't tee this up because we don't
	do talking points in advance, but you know I have to run this past you. There's somebody
	called Pedro Gonzalez who has been one of these DeSantis boosters, social media influencers,
	and there was a 5,000 word article about him in Breitbart this week about private text messages,
	anti-semitic text messages, really racist cartoons he was sending out.
	And this is a guy associated who, you know, betrayed President Trump, jumped on the DeSantis train, was boosting him until this Breitbart article came out.
	And Boris, it's really weird.
	Nobody on the comms campaign of the governor of Florida is prepared to make a statement about the unveiling of this anti-Semite.
	Isn't that disturbing to you?
	It is extremely disturbing.
	And, you know, this guy, Pedro, whatever his name is, you know, he's been out there a little bit last couple months, in the last year.
	Before that, apparently, he was a supporter of President Trump.
	Now he's gotten paid off, just like Steve Cortez got paid off, and jumped over to the sanctimonious side.
	He's been absolutely exposed as a vile anti-Semite, as a vile racist.
	And, you know, the safety motor show, people want to play games about it.
	And he's going, Oh, no, that was me a long time ago.
	It was a long time ago.
	2020.
	Same thing.
	It's like the liar.
	Okay.
	Long time ago.
	Oh, I'm a totally different person now.
	Oh, really?
	You changed in a year and a half, two years.
	Stop lying.
	Admit you're anti-Semite.
	Admit you're a racist.
	And admit that that's the kind of people that are hanging out over there with Rhonda St.
	Timonius.
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	Integrity and loyalty.
	One man who has loyalty and understands what it is, is our good friend.
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	Alright, what a momentous week in the Supreme Court.
	Let's break it all down with one of our good buddies.
	It's been far too long.
	From Project 21, Horace Cooper.
	Happy Friday!
	Happy Friday.
	So it's nice and chilly in Texas, you were telling me, right?
	Yes, just 109, but other than that, it's great.
	And how many AC units do you have on right now?
	So we have six thermostats and five outdoor units to control this house.
	So when I walk from one area to another, I can pick whatever temperature I want it to be.
	Wow.
	That's the American way.
	That is the American way, and that's American ingenuity.
	Yeah, we love it, we love it.
	I think, how did they not give a Nobel Prize to the man who invented the air conditioner?
	That's what, forget about everything else, you know, the DNA helix.
	No, the air conditioner.
	That's the man who deserved a Pulitzer Prize, a Nobel Prize, and everything else.
	Alright, Horace.
	I don't get it.
	I just don't get it.
	Explain to me how we have Supreme Court justices like Katanji Brown, we have Michelle Obama making public statements that not judging somebody based upon their skin color is bad.
	Help me out, Horace.
	Well, a couple things.
	One is, there has been one political party for more than 150 years that has thrived on separating us along racial lines rather than treating us all as citizens.
	Second is that even though they lied in the late 19th century and the early 20th century and said that separating the races was good for us, it was always It was always a badge of inferiority to treat people differently merely because of their race.
	Today, if Michelle Obama's views were to obtain, we would continue a badge of inferiority by saying, you can't be expected to pass this exam.
	They're actually universities that are saying, oh, you know the lecture process,
	Yes!
	where you sit down and you take notes.
	I used to teach constitutional law.
	They're arguing that black kids aren't able to do that.
	My answer is racism much?
	Right.
	I mean, absolutely stunning.
	We have one of the ones that got most attention online is this woman, Erica Marsh.
	And this is what she tweeted, Horace.
	Today's Supreme Court decision is a direct attack on black people.
	No black person will be able to succeed in a merit-based system.
	What?
	Do these people not even understand what they're saying?
	This is a person, a left winger, who says, basically, if your skin is black, you're stupid and you have no merit.
	Is that what they believe, Horace?
	This sounds like the resistance that we saw in the 1950s, where after the landmark decision, the Supreme Court ruled separate but equal was no longer allowed, and there were places and schools in America that said we're going to get around this.
	It's not true.
	You can never allow black Americans and white Americans to be able to freely compete and participate.
	I don't know who ought to have whatever job as an engineer or an airplane pilot or a surgeon.
	What I do know is individuals are the people that distinguish themselves.
	And I can't tell by looking at the race of anybody, I can't tell by looking at the height
	of anybody, I can't tell by looking at the handedness, whether they're left or right,
	whether or not they're going to be a good fit.
	But the left believes they can.
	Shame on her for posting the truth that the left really believes, but that is clear that
	black Americans in her eyes and many progressives are a benighted group of people that can't
	make it if it weren't for them helping out.
	She's joined the resistance just like they did in the 50s.
	They're distorting the actual reason these cases were being brought.
	It wasn't white kids who were privileged.
	It was Asian kids who were being locked out of these schools because they were literally too smart.
	No one in the corporate media is telling the truth about who sued Yale, who sued Harvard.
	It's not white students.
	It's mostly Asian students, Horace.
	Why is the left Not admitting that if they are here for minorities!
	Oh, then they'd have to call them the Asian face of white supremacy.
	You know, again, again, when groups pick racial winners and losers, it's a zero-sum game and it has almost nothing to do with looking out for the group and everything to do with expending political power.
	The Little Rock Nine had to have Help of President Eisenhower to carry out their constitutional right.
	Here's my question.
	Why didn't our president stand up and say that he accepted the decision of the Supreme Court and that he would use his position to make sure that the rights of Asians or any American to be able to attend was in fact vindicated?
	He instead took the Uh, segregationist route and said his administration would be working to find ways to subvert the ruling of this court.
	Shame on him and yet it's well within the legacy of this party and their ideology.
	I want to ask you just how dangerous that thing we've heard floated not only by him but others like AOC to disregard the Supreme Court's decisions.
	We are talking to the author of Put Y'all Back In Chains, Horace Cooper.
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	Yep.
	Horace?
	Yeah, I'm here.
	Yes, sir.
	Yeah, we're gonna talk about Clarence Thomas and I'm gonna read a little bit of the ruling, okay?
	Sounds great.
	Okay, good.
	Can you play me...
	Um, six and eight.
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	It's cake time, Fox!
	Look, I made a commitment.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	But I would not in any way interfere with the Justice Department, who they prosecuted, if they prosecuted, how they proceeded.
	I've not spoken once, not one single time with the Attorney General on any specific case.
	Not once.
	and but i do talk to him about law enforcement and all those other things
	but the point is that i i just think uh... we've been there's nothing about interference attrition
	the last administration tried to direct the court tried to push the carmen
	all-white whether it's the fed or the quarter institutions are supposed to say
	hands-on so i've never engaged in that it's not my role to do that
	uh... playful and i should have made this video months ago but i didn't
	Mm-hmm.
	And I was scared.
	And I was scared of more backlash.
	And I felt personally guilty for what transpired.
	So I patiently waited for things to get better.
	But surprise!
	They haven't really.
	And I was waiting for the brand to reach out to me, but they never did.
	And for months now, I've been scared to leave my house.
	I have been ridiculed in public.
	I've been followed.
	And I have felt a loneliness that I wouldn't wish on anyone.
	Tough shit.
	God.
	Uh, it's really noisy.
	It's really noisy.
	Are you outside, Horace?
	I am not outside.
	109.
	Oh, that's better.
	That's better.
	When you talk, it's okay.
	Good.
	All right.
	What's a good title?
	What's a good title?
	Oh, um...
	Conservative, maybe?
	I don't know if that's going to be an exciting topic.
	It's trades.
	Maybe something to do with China, then?
	Taking on China for President Trump.
	Yep.
	And for Boris.
	I gave you that one.
	You did?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yes you did.
	I'm sorry.
	I got it.
	Thanks.
	Alright, 30 seconds.
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	We're talking about the amazing decision out of the Supreme Court, one of three this week.
	Let me just read from the pen of the great Justice Clarence Thomas.
	For the reasons provided above, the Harvard and UNC admissions programs cannot be reconciled with the guarantees of the Equal Protection Clause.
	Both programs lack sufficiently focused and measurable objectives warranting the use of race, unavoidably employ race in a negative manner, involve racial stereotyping, and lack meaningful points.
	We have never permitted admissions programs to work in this way and we will not do so today.
	Pretty unequivocal.
	How does the institutional media respond?
	Here's the famous homophobe Joy Reid.
	Cut three.
	He has been assisted by white patrons really his whole life, even now by very rich ones as they fly him around the country.
	And to your very point, he seems to deeply resent all of the assistance he got, and he wants to make sure that nobody like him ever gets that kind of help again, because it helps his self-image so that he can lie to himself.
	And fool himself and maybe hate himself a little less for having gotten help all along his path to the Supreme Court.
	And let's be clear, the most important thing to know about his confirmation, other than the fact that he's accused, credibly, of sexual misconduct, is the polling that got him over the line.
	And it was the polling that I very much remember.
	I was one of the few black folk who was against him.
	It was the polling that showed that about 7 in 10 black people supported his ascension to the seat once held by the great Thurgood Marshall, and he is not his equal.
	I have to ask you, Horace Cooper, the fact that Joy Reid uses the phrase
	credible sexual abuse allegations, is there nothing they won't stoop to to take down a black conservative judge or
	justice?
	Joy ought to spend a little bit more time with the FBI trying to figure out who took her private email address and
	her password so that they could consistently post on her own social
	media over about a 4-5 year period some of the most hateful, hateful rhetoric.
	Now, it is true that black Americans supported Justice Thomas' ascension to the Supreme Court,
	and it is true that she has always opposed him because she does not support our Constitution,
	and many progressives do not support our constitution.
	If Ms.
	jackson the justice on the supreme court who participated in the descent
	had her view government would become the chief
	who uh... racial investigator
	to assess every single american so that they can determine what benefits and
	what detriment can be provided now you say well nothing like that ever happened
	but that's actually how we got the plessy ferguson case it was the job of government
	to decide who was white
	and who was not white Who would get benefits and who would not get benefits.
	That did not work.
	It is an evil approach, every single citizen.
	And by the way, That's the beauty and awesomeness of our founders.
	They said the citizens would be primary.
	If you read Justice Thomas' concurrence, he says that with the 13th Amendment and the 14th Amendment, a second founding occurred, where America lived up to its basic promise when it was started.
	Justice Brown Jackson and Joy Reid and the other progressives would completely throw that out and let us go back to a point where government favors people because of their race and disfavors them because of their race.
	One more point.
	It is true that Asians were being punished as a result of this.
	I and our organization, Project 21, we filed an amicus brief on this, and it is our view that no American, no white, no black, no Asian, no American should be punished on the basis of their race.
	We were thrilled with this ruling.
	Fabulous.
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	Question number one.
	Did you ever settle on a set of rims for the Mustang?
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	You need to actually watch the show.
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	So spend a little bit of money and it will be worth your while.
	Good question, Mike.
	Agreed.
	Alright, let's go to our guest today.
	He's in the news, not for the right reasons.
	He is the owner of the Law Weapons and Supply Gun Store.
	His name is Robert Bevis.
	Why are you in the news, Mr. Bevis, and how can we help you?
	Well, thank you for having me, Sebastian.
	Law Weapons is located in Naperville, Illinois.
	Back in August, the Naperville City Council enacted an ordinance to stop the sale of what they call assault weapons, which we all know are semi-automatic pistols and rifles.
	Yeah.
	So we wound up having to file a case to try to save our store in the federal courts on a constitutional issue.
	And we just started suffering from then on.
	Currently, we are down to about 15% of our sales.
	You've dropped more than 80% of your sales because of this unconstitutional measure in Illinois?
	Yes sir, we sure have.
	And we've had to let go of seven employees and I'm in debt up to almost a half million dollars and we've lost more than a half million in sales.
	Now help explain this to me because somebody on my team knows Naperville very well and says this is a, or used to be, a very conservative part of Illinois.
	What's happened to this neck of the woods and why aren't people rallying around you?
	Well, because what's happened is you've got these leftists that have been coming from the city of Chicago.
	They've ruined the city of Chicago, and there's so much crime there.
	They're moving west into Naperville, and they're bringing their ideology, and they're completely ruining the city.
	This has all started over the last three years or so.
	I mean, back in 2012, Mayor Pradle, the then mayor of Naperville, invited us to come to Naperville as the very first gun shop ever, and just, you know, rolled out the red carpet for us to start our business here.
	And now, everything has completely changed, Where they're actually banning this commercial sale of firearms.
	You know, this is a, you can do private sales, but you can't do, I can't sell here in my business.
	So they're singling me out here in Naperville.
	All right.
	Hang on.
	Let's just get the word out there because we need to get people to support you from across America.
	It's Naperville.
	It's Illinois.
	It's Law, Weapons and Supply.
	Support this man right now.
	Go to lawweapons.org.
	To help fund his case all the way to the Supreme Court.
	LawWeapons.org.
	So, what did the courts in Illinois do to you?
	What did they say?
	That the Constitution doesn't matter?
	Well, basically, we went to the Federal District Court in the Northern District, and the judge there, Virginia Kendall, actually denied our motion for a preliminary injunction.
	We then took it to the appellate court, which also denied it.
	So we wound up going directly to the Supreme Court.
	And the Supreme Court, Amy Coney Barrett, the Justice for Illinois there, she actually took the case and then asked the city of Naperville and the state of Illinois why she shouldn't grant this and had them fully brief the case.
	Wow.
	Which was very, you know, amazing that they actually took it.
	But what happened is the Seventh District Appellate Court sent a note to the Supreme Court saying, listen, we're going to handle this.
	We're going to do it on what's called a rocket docket.
	And they literally had all the briefs and we just got through an oral argument yesterday.
	They did it all in one month, which was amazing.
	And so the Supreme Court said, yes, go ahead and do it.
	We went through the oral argument and now we're waiting for a decision just on the preliminary injunction.
	The merits haven't even been heard yet on this case.
	I hope you have some good attorneys, Mr. Bevis.
	We do.
	We're using the National Gun Rights Foundation has backed us very well on this.
	I mean, we are our big struggle right now is we have to keep the doors open.
	If we close our store, what will happen is they're going to file to dismiss the case and we could set back the laws.
	This is important.
	This is a fight for all of our rights.
	get back to where we are today.
	This is the lead and all the other cases are combined into it.
	This is important.
	This is a fight for all of our rights, not just in Naperville, not just in Illinois,
	but for all of us.
	80% he has lost in his income.
	Let's support the owner of Law Weapons and Supply, Robert Bervis.
	Keep fighting the good fight.
	Go right now.
	Make a donation.
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	What?
	You know, the guy who's not going to stand down from the poya.
	The guy who wants to do the golf thing at Trump.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Is there an update on that, that he's not standing down?
	Yeah.
	Correct.
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	Alright, I don't know why I'm doing this, but there's some kind of fake sport called golf, and there's some aspect of it in the news.
	Tell us what's going on, only because it affects my former boss with this NFL player called Popoya.
	What's going on, Jeff, and is this important?
	I think it's important because of what happened.
	This came out, I guess it was last week, he was having this charity golf tournament.
	I think he has it every year.
	But this year he's having it at one of the Trump golf courses.
	So of course the sponsors started to drop out because he was holding it at a Trump golf course.
	A charity event?
	Yes.
	The sponsors pull out because who owns the golf course?
	Which is so ridiculous.
	It's absolutely absurd.
	But the thing that I'm surprised is there was someone that came in as a sponsor said that they would pick up the sponsorship of the people that left.
	And he's not backing down, so he's not afraid of it.
	He said it's one of his favorite golf courses.
	He's going to move on with the tournament.
	Is this significant if you look at the live staff and everything else that's been going on in the last few weeks?
	I think it's significant that he's going to go ahead and hold the event and nothing's going to happen.
	There's not going to be any backlash.
	You don't have to get bullied around by these people.
	I think if you start seeing more and more events like this where people step up, And then maybe it's a story for a day or two, and then you just move on.
	That's what I think the lesson is here.
	And what do we know about this guy?
	Is he a trumster or just a player?
	Well, the fact that he said it's one of his favorite golf courses, I think he probably is a Trumpster.
	And he did not come out with, well, I don't, I kind of disagree with the views of Trump.
	He didn't do any of that stuff.
	Oh, okay.
	So I think he definitely is.
	The tell, the tell.
	Oh, I'm really, I got to make the snowflakes happy.
	Well, good for you, Mr. Poirier.
	Hopefully we'll find out who those sponsors are and then we can support those sponsors because they're not snowflakes and they're not cuckolds.
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	Chris Coles, where do we even begin to discuss The Empire Strikes Back?
	You know what's interesting?
	I watched Terminator and Terminator 2 the previous two weeks, right?
	Those were movies that I picked in sequence there.
	And I enjoyed them more than I thought that I would.
	I didn't remember loving either of those movies as a kid.
	Now, Star Wars, I do remember loving.
	Of course, we all love Star Wars.
	And when you watch The Empire Strikes Back, you'd think, because we did a trilogy review very early on.
	We launched this kind of program, this show of ours.
	We did a kind of tribute of all three in an hour.
	Yeah, and I, you know, so I've seen this movie fairly recently.
	And you'd think a movie you love this much, that you remember so fondly, that you've seen so many times, you'd think that eventually it would lose its luster, that it would eventually just become, you know, part of the background noise.
	And you would watch it and think, I don't really like it as much as I remember liking it.
	That does not happen with these movies.
	There is something about Star Wars that has this everlasting quality.
	They just almost seem to get better with time, with every viewing.
	I just seem to love these movies more.
	It's hard to explain, but these are masterpieces that never get old.
	No, perfectly said, Chris.
	Well, let's try and explain it.
	Let's try and dissect it.
	So, we know that the precursor, the original Star Wars, not A New Hope, thank you very much, Star Wars, was a labor of love, was a passion project.
	It was George Lucas' homage to the, you know, flash Gordon Space Opera serials of his youth, the black-and-white serials.
	And not only that, you say, you know, it doesn't get old.
	Well, we now know, you know, George Lucas is very honest about what this story is about, who Luke is, who Obi-Wan is, who Darth Vader is.
	You know, he...
	He went to Joseph Campbell's Hero of a Thousand Faces.
	He picked, you know, the iconic eternal stories of Western civilization from Homer on down, of the coming of age, the young boy who has to become an adventurer, the sage who advises him, the familial, you know, conflict we opened with that iconic moment where he finds out the man trying to destroy him is in fact his father.
	So, A, the themes are eternal, narrative themes, and then by the time you get to Empire, three years later, this film, Star Wars, that changed the industry, that was this surprise blockbuster that had people queuing around the block for literal days on end, well now, Lucas has got money.
	Now, you know, Fox is backing him.
	and they can throw everything on the screen and it is I mean from the models who are looking at the at-ats on Hoth
	from the music John Williams just incredible music and and I think you
	know it's this is chapter two This is the dark chapter of the original trilogy.
	And it has, you know, these Shakespearean elements.
	Whether it's Lando Calrissian betraying his body.
	Whether it's, you know, one of the heroes being frozen and you don't know if he's going to survive.
	The love interest with Leia.
	This is... I think we can explain it, Chris.
	We can identify why... I swear to you, I've seen this movie Three, four hundred times.
	I was watching it again last night and I thought, dare I put it on in the background and just remind myself what I want to talk about?
	And Chris, I can't bloody put it on in the background because you are grabbed!
	You are engrossed!
	You're in this, you know, Shakespearean sci-fi drama!
	Yeah.
	And the way that this film in particular plays out, and I still prefer Jedi.
	I know many people out there will think I'm crazy with Ewoks and all that.
	I absolutely love Jedi.
	I think it's the great masterpiece.
	It's sort of like Beethoven's Ninth Symphony for me.
	Jedi is the best one.
	But this film really elevated Star Wars.
	Star Wars was this little independent film, very low budget.
	Empire was such a step up.
	Every piece of this film has a level of quality that just steps up from Star Wars and really was truly a masterpiece.
	And people at the time, I was watching some footage of people waiting outside the theater for Star Wars and there's people dressed up as characters, even back then. We think of that as a modern
	thing, but people were so enthusiastic.
	Like you said, it changed the industry. And a lot of these themes are things that we forget today.
	This show was called Make Movies Great Again. The reason we called that is because we recognize
	that films today don't live up to the standards that were set in like the 1980s. And one of those
	great themes that we keep coming back to is the father-son dynamic. And that is played out
	beautifully in Return of the Jedi, but it's set up perfectly here in Empire. You do have the
	father-son dynamic to some degree in the first film with Obi-Wan as a sort of grandfatherly
	father character. In this one, you have Yoda as a grandfatherly fatherly character as well.
	And then, of course, in the third film, we get the redemption of Darth Vader.
	But those themes, the father-son themes, are so important, so important in a society.
	We completely reject the function of the father in society today.
	We romanticize and elevate the single mother, which I think is a tragedy.
	Every time you see a a child of a single mother, 99% of the time this person has
	deep psychological problems, they're often criminals, these are huge problems in our
	society. And back in the 80s, they recognized the power and the critical nature of the father
	in the lives of children.
	And you would get these themes consistently.
	The father-son story is so critical and so important to our society, and there's so much about our society that I think is spiraling down the drain, and we really need to save it.
	And one of the ways that we do that is through our art and through our storytelling.
	Man, you're doing it again.
	You did it with Terminator.
	You did it with T2.
	You're injecting philosophy.
	You're injecting, you know, civilizational analysis.
	And I just wanted to have fun.
	But, you know, you are bringing your A game.
	And it is superb.
	Absolutely.
	These stories, they're not really adventure stories.
	They're not even love stories.
	Although, you know, there's these minor beats.
	This is about father and son.
	And also, one of the most important themes in human existence, redemption.
	We're all sinners.
	I mean, this is all leading up to one act, and it is the act in the next movie, which we will be reviewing next, of the evil father saving his son and so redeeming his soul.
	Beautifully put.
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	The Force is with you, young Skywalker.
	But you are not a Jedi yet.
	The iconic duel from the end of Empire.
	Please play it in the background as B-roll, because I want to talk about this while we're discussing it with Chris.
	There are some, look, I love Ridley Scott.
	Blade Runner is my favorite movie.
	But there are some directors, you can pretty much, you know, this director is good at stories.
	This director is good at visuals, like Ridley.
	I mean, just paints a painting.
	You look at this, and this, just this scene, Chris, Forget the Shakespearean drama that we're witnessing.
	This scene is beautiful.
	I mean, the orange, the blue, this is like a painting.
	This looks like Dante's Inferno.
	This looks like, you know, the devil is standing at the bottom most ring of hell and our protagonist walks up to him.
	This movie Hits it out, the park on every level, characterization, character arc, and visuals as well!
	Oh yeah, the visuals in this are such a notch up from the original film.
	You know, they had a little bit more money to play with, obviously, but just, you know, they storyboarded every shot out, you know, in great detail.
	They had great artists doing this.
	And you see that shot of Darth Vader standing there with all the smoke billowing up behind him, steam, whatever it is.
	They had the smoke machines going full blast on that day.
	And it just looks epic.
	And then the scene right after that is the famous lightsaber duel on this, I don't know what you would call it, like a catwalk type thing.
	And the lightsabers hit the rail and the rail explodes in sparks and smoke.
	And that was obviously something that they had to plan out and try to produce that very carefully, because those are practical effects.
	It wasn't, you know, computers generating it in post.
	They had to plan all that ahead of time, so they knew exactly what they were doing.
	They knew exactly what it was going to look like.
	And they did it perfectly.
	I mean, it was just absolutely beautiful and nothing like anything anyone had ever seen before.
	No, and if we stick with Darth, one of my favorite moments.
	I don't know if 90% of viewers even get what happens here.
	I'm not sure they follow the dialogue from Darth Vader, but when Admiral Ozzel Screws up and loses the rebels.
	How he is dealt with by Darth Vader and then what happens to Captain Piet.
	Even the subtlety of the writing, even little humorous elements is just... Let's just play the cut.
	So this is the last mistake Ozzel is ever going to make.
	The Rebels are alerted to our presence.
	Admiral Ozzel came out of Lightspeed too close to the system.
	He felt surprised, was wiser... Yes, clumsy as he is stupid.
	General, prepare your troops for a surface attack.
	Yes, my lord.
	Lord Vader, the fleet has moved down to flight speed and we're preparing to...
	Silence!
	You have failed me for the last time, Admiral.
	Captain Piet?
	Yes, my lord.
	Make ready to land our troops beyond the energy field and deploy the fleet so that nothing gets off the system.
	You are in command now, Admiral Piet.
	Thank you, Lord Vader.
	Chris, how many people do you think noticed the fact that he says first, Captain Piet, and at the end says, you are in command, Admiral Piet, because he's just promoted him because he's killed the guy who was the Admiral.
	Do you think most people even get that little bit of humor?
	Probably not, no.
	I mean, there are a lot of little details like that throughout the script, throughout the film, and it's beautiful.
	I remember the very first script I ever wrote, I was probably 16 years old, feature script.
	I based the concept of the villain on Darth Vader and the Emperor, because I recognized from Star Wars something that I don't think I've ever seen in any other film.
	It's absolutely brilliant.
	They create this villain, Darth Vader, who is absolutely terrifying.
	If you're, you know, in at the time, there had never been a villain that looked like Darth Vader.
	Now they've kind of tried to mimic Darth Vader.
	They try to make other kind of monstrous characters like him.
	But he was half machine, half man, had this like skull like looking black mask.
	It was incredible in the 80s, you know.
	And so I remember as a child thinking, OK, Darth Vader is the scariest man in the galaxy.
	We've never seen the Emperor do anything scary.
	No.
	But we know the Emperor is powerful because Vader bows to him.
	Yes.
	If Vader, the scariest man in the galaxy, is afraid of this guy, this guy must be... He can kill a man with a thought, Darth Vader can.
	and he's afraid of the emperor. So the emperor was even more scary than Darth Vader. And that
	was so beautifully established, they didn't even have to show the emperor do anything.
	They just made Darth Vader bow to him. Such a brilliant thing to do in a story.
	And not only that, you're making memories flood back from my nine-year-old youth.
	This was nine when I came out.
	This is good writing because Darth Vader became the greatest villain in modern culture, still is the greatest villain.
	But there was no explanation until the later prequel garbage movies.
	There was no explanation.
	Why has he got a mask?
	Why does he talk like that?
	Is he a robot?
	How much is he a human?
	Zero explanation.
	It was just iconic delivery, iconic imagery, and of course, just like, you know, you didn't get to see most of the alien in Alien, They let your imagination... I remember as a kid saying, who is this guy?
	Why is he so strong?
	Why is he wearing a helmet?
	And they didn't lecture you.
	They just let you imagine, Chris.
	No, you know what?
	You're absolutely right.
	And there are things that I would do differently for a modern audience than they did in these films.
	Like, for instance, I've never really liked that there's no explanation Uh, for why the Emperor or Darth Vader believe that they can get Luke on their side.
	Luke is very obviously the most honorable, pure-hearted type of person that you can be, type of character.
	He is the personification of good.
	And they believe they can get him on their side, but they don't seem to have any kind of good reason for it.
	So I've always thought that what would be, you know, how I would make the movie was to
	have Luke constantly, or give him a good reason to have joined the dark side, which they've
	never really did in these films.
	However, they hint at it a little bit, right?
	Darth Vader says, the Emperor has foreseen that, you know, that you will destroy him.
	So if you join me, then we can rule the galaxy.
	There's this little hint that maybe they can trick Luke Skywalker into believing that he
	can kill the Emperor.
	It's very, very subtle.
	But what's great is exactly what you said.
	Back in the 1980s, we were required to use our imaginations.
	And you could rely on the audience to do that, to fill in the gaps.
	You didn't need to be a scriptwriter who had written, you know, 20 screenplays.
	to be able to imagine where Darth Vader came from.
	There's little hints about that too, when Obi-Wan says he's more machine than man now,
	indicating that over time, slowly, he got a limb cut off or something,
	some darkness took him over, and he was rebuilt as a machine slowly over time.
	They changed that in the prequels.
	They made him all at once get burned by fire and then have to be changed into this machine.
	I didn't really like that in the prequels.
	I thought it was awful.
	A, kids love these movies, and you literally show Christian Haydnson having his legs burnt off and his arms burnt off in a volcano, and you're thinking, I didn't need to see.
	I'm an adult.
	I didn't need to see that.
	It doesn't make Darth Vader any more interesting or anything.
	I mean, it just, it's like when you just explain things that shouldn't be explained.
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	Again, so many iconic moments to choose from.
	One of them that is, you're the script writer.
	You're the actor.
	You know this better than me.
	But for me, drama has to revolve around multiple reversals.
	You know, the good guy has to have a reversal.
	He thinks he's winning, and boom, he's losing.
	That's drama.
	In this movie, Cloud City, Bespin, and Lando the charmer, well, he walks them straight into a trap.
	Aren't you afraid the Empire's gonna find out about this little operation?
	Shut you down?
	It's always been a danger, but it looms like a shadow over everything we've built here.
	But things have developed that'll ensure security.
	I've just made a deal that'll keep the Empire out of here forever.
	We would be honored if you would join us.
	Thanks for watching!
	I had no choice.
	They arrived right before you did.
	I'm sorry.
	Lando, Lando, Lando.
	What a scene and also the OG technique.
	He steals the blaster using the force.
	And I find out, you know, 40 years later, yeah, they used, uh, the gun was on a wire.
	They pulled it out of David Prowse's hand and they reversed the film.
	And you go, whoa, who needs CGI?
	Uh, what a scene, Chris, right?
	Of course, yeah, yeah.
	Brilliant effect as well.
	I never really thought about how they did that effect.
	That's an interesting insight.
	Look, this is one of my favorite hero moments in all of cinema, maybe in all of literature, right?
	So, you gotta understand, Darth Vader has already been established, both in the original Star Wars film and Empire Strikes Back, as the deadliest, scariest man in the universe, right?
	You cannot stand up against Darth Vader.
	He can kill you with his mind, as I just said.
	Now, upon revealing Darth Vader to Han Solo, what does he do?
	Does he go, ah, get out of here, Leia?
	You know, does he hide?
	Does he run?
	No.
	He immediately, without any kind of hesitation, pulls his blaster and just starts shooting at Darth Vader.
	Yes!
	You're not going to be able to kill Darth Vader, but Han Solo does not care.
	He's got to try.
	And what does Darth Vader do?
	He just, with great ease, just uses the Force, snatches the blaster out of his hand.
	But wow, what bravery.
	I mean, that's the kind of thing that you want to see your hero do in a great film.
	Dude, you should write scripts.
	You're really good at that.
	I mean, I just enjoy these.
	They're so ingrained in my life.
	You know, all of these movies are on my phone.
	I watch them when I'm on a plane or whatever.
	But that point is...
	This is like we could be doing the Manhood Hour right now.
	What did we learn there?
	We learned that Han Solo, for all his roguishness and everything else, for almost running away with the money after the OG Star Wars, what does he do?
	He always comes back, he does the right thing, and in that moment, he does what a man does without thinking.
	There's no calculation.
	There's no... He knows what has to be done.
	I might be facing the most powerful being to ever exist that breathes oxygen, but there's a woman behind me, my best friend next to me, and I'm just gonna shoot the bastard because that's what a guy does.
	I mean, you are dissecting this perfectly.
	That's why we love Making Movies Great Again with Chris Coles.
	We've only just begun.
	It's The Empire Strikes Back.
	What kind of rating are we going to give it?
	How many lightsabers are we going to give it?
	I think you know how many I am.
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	Hey!
	Listen to me!
	Chewie!
	Chewie, this won't help me!
	Hey!
	Save your strength.
	There'll be another time.
	The princess... You have to take care of her.
	You hear me?
	Huh?
	Please...
	I love you.
	Oh I know.
	One of the best improvisations in modern movie history.
	Originally, he was going to say, I love you, or yeah, ditto.
	And Han Solo said, I know.
	Because that's Han.
	That's a little bit of a scoundrel, even before he may die in the carbonite freezing process.
	Chris, I'm going to ask the question right now.
	A lovely moment, just a perfect moment.
	Is there anything about Empire?
	Let's put him on the screen.
	The criticisms of Empire, like the Ewoks in Return, have most to do with a puppet.
	OK?
	Jim Henson, Yoda, the amazing team, Oz and everybody else.
	Now, look, they didn't have CGI.
	But again, last night I asked myself, when I came up to the Daigo bar scene, I thought, Is this going to work now?
	It's 2023.
	Is this going to work for me?
	And I swear to you, 90 seconds into meeting Yoda, I bought into it.
	I'm a 52-year-old man.
	And it's like, there's a character there.
	There's a curmudgeonly little old git who's playing a trick on Luke, pretending he's not Yoda.
	And you buy into it.
	Am I just living my childhood again?
	No, no, you you know, it's it's with the acting with a voice acting.
	They did such a great job with that puppet.
	Look, for the for the real for the actual like misanthropes at the time in the 70s, well in the 80s for Empire, who were complaining about this.
	I do understand their point.
	I mean, even as a kid, I would look at the puppets in Star Wars and I would think it's a little bit silly.
	Especially the cantina scene in the first Star Wars.
	There were some characters in there that just looked ridiculous.
	Which was a function, by the way, of money.
	They had no money, so they used old monster masks from older horror movies that were still available in the prop room.
	I didn't even know that.
	The werewolf man is the werewolf man because he is the werewolf man makeup left over.
	That's amazing.
	That's incredible.
	I didn't know that.
	But you know, they did such a careful job with Yoda.
	Yeah.
	They took such care with him.
	Yes, you can tell it's a puppet.
	But like I said, the acting is so well done, so sincere that you kind of forget after a minute that it's a puppet.
	You know what I mean?
	And I think I heard once that Luke actually started when he was performing, Mark Hamill, when he's performing as Luke, he would forget he's talking to a puppet, you know?
	And that's just how good Frank Oz was.
	And, you know, that's the magic of this movie.
	is, you know, in all three of these movies, is they can take things that are really absurd.
	I mean, the whole concept of this, of these movies, where there's the evil Lord Vader, who has these magical powers, you know, the wizards and all this kind of like knightly stuff from medieval times and fantasy stories put into a sci-fi set setting, right?
	Laser swords, you know, it's all ridiculous.
	But they somehow make it work.
	It all seems To some degree believable.
	You can suspend your disbelief from these films, whereas really you shouldn't be able to, but it's just something about how much care they took to make these movies that it has made it into the legend that it is today.
	And I have to say, the prequel Yoda, that's fully animated, not for a nano millisecond.
	Do I buy into it?
	No.
	I don't.
	It's not anywhere near as good.
	All right.
	We have to just cram so much into this one episode of Making Movies Great Again on Empire, one of my top, top, top, top, top favorite movies.
	Eric has done a little montage of some of the most iconic moments.
	Let's just play the montage.
	I guess I smelled that, kid.
	But it'll keep you warm.
	Until I get the shelter up.
	I thought they smelled bad.
	On the outside.
	Commander Skywalker, do you copy?
	This is Rogue Two.
	Good morning.
	Nice of you guys to drop by.
	Echo Base, this is Rogue Two.
	I've found them.
	Repeat, I've found them.
	You stuck-up, half-witted, scruffy-looking nerf herder!
	Who's scruffy-looking?
	Laugh it up, fuzzball.
	Oh, too easy.
	Perhaps you are not as strong as the Emperor thought.
	Impressive.
	for all.
	Most impressive.
	Alright, I'll give it a try.
	No!
	Try not!
	Do!
	Or do not.
	There is no try.
	Whether it's the Gawker household, where, you know, laughing up fastball is a classic phrase, or whether it's here in the studio where we say, yeah, there is no try, do or do not.
	These lines, all the more stunning, Chris, because Lucas, who didn't want to direct, battered and begged his professor from USC, Irving Kirshner, to direct this movie.
	A guy who you're not gonna expect this kind of performance out of because what is Irving Kirshner known for apart from Empire?
	The Eyes of Laura Mars, the fake James Bond movie Never Say Never Again, and Robocop 2.
	Not exactly the obvious choice.
	Well, I gotta say, I don't necessarily credit George Lucas with the original Star Wars being as brilliant as it was.
	There's a famous, famous story about the original Star Wars where, when it was first edited together, it was done so... it ended up looking like a B-film.
	It looked really, really bad.
	And they eventually got some more special effects in, they eventually edited it a little bit better, and it became the masterpiece that it is today.
	I think something similar happened with this movie.
	I've always felt that Star Wars was originally written by Lucas to be a little bit campy.
	But because the artistry of the model makers and just everybody involved, the cinematography, everything was so good in that first film, the performances of the actors, all that, it ended up becoming a lot better than Lucas had ever imagined it could be.
	And I think the same thing happened here.
	When you get so many people on a set, because a set, a movie set, a movie production, is not as much of an auteur endeavor as people often think.
	Some people think that, oh, the director does everything.
	Yeah.
	The reality is, it is a collaborative effort, it is a business, you have hundreds of employees sometimes on a film, and if everybody's at the top of their game, you can have directors that are maybe not necessarily the best end up producing things that are absolutely magnificent.
	If you ever want to see an example of this, watch or listen to the director commentary for Silence of the Lambs.
	Okay.
	The director of Silence of the Lambs is in the commentary and everything he focuses on is completely boring and irrelevant and something that nobody cares about but and he admits this in the commentary he says I just let everybody do their job
	And sometimes if you just have the best of everyone and you let everybody do their job, you end up with a masterpiece.
	And as the director, you don't really have to do much at all.
	So some films are more collaborative than others.
	Some films are really a tour efforts.
	Hitchcock films, for instance.
	But these films, these Star Wars films, I mean, so much credit has to go to the entire team.
	It's not just a George Lucas thing.
	It's not just a Kirsten thing.
	It's not just a Lawrence Kasdan thing.
	It's everybody that was involved in those pictures really turned it into the masterpiece that it is, the trilogy.
	Yeah, you're so right.
	And it's such an important point that the original cut of Star Wars was a disaster.
	Even Lucas's friends like Coppola said, this is a failure.
	He got depressed.
	And then his wife, They'd later divorce, but Marsha Lucas basically re-edited the whole thing and saved it in the edit.
	I don't know how editors do what they do to take, you know, miles of somebody else's footage and then weave it into a story and re-organize it like some jigsaw.
	But yeah, I think Marsha Lucas has to get the credit for Star Wars.
	And yeah, here maybe it's just the ensemble power of everybody involved.
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	What are you doing?
	You're not actually going into an asteroid field.
	They'd be crazy to follow us, wouldn't they?
	You don't have to do this to impress me.
	Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3,720 to 1.
	Never tell me the odds.
	Never tell me the odds!
	A little bit of trivia as usual.
	What do you know about the asteroid field?
	Some of those asteroids, because they were running out of models, are actually potatoes.
	No, look it up.
	They're actually real potatoes because they looked like asteroids and they just needed a lot more asteroids.
	There's one character we haven't discussed.
	We saw him creep up behind Darth.
	I'm not sure how I was never obsessed with him like some of my fellow Star Wars fans were, but this is, you know, Boba Fett's moment.
	Boba Fett, the iconic character.
	Let's hear Darth talking to the bounty hunters.
	Bounty hunters?
	We don't need that scum.
	Yes, sir.
	Those rebels won't escape us.
	Slowly, then.
	Sir, we have a priority signal from the Star Destroyer engine.
	Right.
	There will be a substantial reward for the one who finds the Millennium Falcon.
	You are free to use any methods necessary, but I want them alive.
	No disintegrations.
	As you wish.
	No disintegrations, as you wish.
	That's the redubbed version.
	Sorry, we tried to stick to OG as much as possible here.
	I didn't find out until recently, a little bit of additional trivia, the original design for Boba Fett, we have the photograph here, was a little bit different.
	He looked like a stormtrooper.
	He was all in white.
	That is one of the original costume tests for the OG Boba Fett.
	Absolutely white.
	I think the color version is an improvement.
	And one more piece of trivia.
	One of the actors got sick when they were filming in Elstree.
	They needed another Imperial officer to whisk Leia away from Luke.
	Let's put him up on the screen.
	The man in the middle there I am a Boba Fett fan.
	I was, like you, I was never obsessed with Boba Fett like some people.
	he did two, he had two roles in the same movie.
	Are you a Boba Fett fan, Chris?
	I am a Boba Fett fan.
	I was, like you, I was never obsessed with Boba Fett like some people.
	He did have a very cool costume, and I think that that is a kind of a thing, right?
	People become enamored with cool costumes.
	I mean, obviously, Darth Vader is one of the coolest costumes in the history of cinema.
	Absolutely brilliant.
	But if we're going to rate people on their wardrobe, I think, you know, in World War Two, the best uniforms were very obviously designed by Hugo Boss.
	And so, you know, you can't really root for a character just because they've got a great costume.
	No, no, and of course... You might find yourself on the wrong side.
	And of course, the Empire's costumes are very, very Hugo Boss-ish, okay?
	The office's costumes are very, very irredelent of a certain German regime of the 1930s.
	All right, we're winding down here.
	Any final thoughts before we rate this?
	Oh, I gotta mention this.
	The end of this movie, oh my gosh, It shouldn't work.
	It should piss everybody off and it's so ballsy.
	It's as if you're literally in act two of a Shakespearean play and they end the play and they say, I'll see you in three years time.
	I mean that, that was ballsy to end it with Han Solo in the wind.
	We don't know what's going to happen.
	That was quite a decision.
	Well, I will say I do not like Uh, cliffhanger endings.
	And so for me, that's one of the main reasons why this is my, you know, I prefer the resolution in Return of the Jedi, but they do it so dang well, it's very hard to fault them.
	And it was necessary to happen in this movie.
	This movie needed to set up what was going to happen in Return of the Jedi, and therefore you sort of needed to end on a cliffhanger.
	And boy, do people love this movie.
	Let me just say, you asked me for final thoughts.
	There is something we haven't talked about.
	We haven't talked about a couple things that I think are important.
	Obviously, John Williams' score.
	Everybody knows that's one of the best things in movie history is the score for this film.
	But also the humor.
	I don't think that the Star Wars films get enough credit for being as funny as they are.
	And I don't think filmmakers today really recognize how important, how critical that is.
	When you have the dramatic moments, the intense moments, the sad moments, the angry moments, Yeah.
	you don't need humor to cut anything.
	Humor could potentially disrupt those moments.
	But in the quieter moments, in the quieter moments, where she says all these nasty things about Han Solo,
	and the only thing he comes back with is, who's scruffy looking?
	All those things are true about me, but I'm not scruffy looking.
	And the I love you, I know, that beautiful moment that I believe,
	there was a disagreement between Lucas and- Yeah.
	And Harrison Ford, Harrison Ford wanted to put that in.
	He felt like that was his rogue character and Lucas didn't like it.
	He wanted to say, I love you back.
	And Harrison Ford stuck to his guns.
	He won him over.
	And it's become one of the most iconic lines in movie history.
	So many things about these movies are great, but I think the humor does sometimes get overlooked.
	And it's a very funny movie.
	Good point.
	And it is funny that it's a funny movie with a real comedian in it who doesn't get to deliver any comic lines.
	Are you a fan of Cheers, Chris?
	You're talking about Cliff Clavin.
	Cliff Clavin!
	Cliff Clavin, who is the commander of the base on Hoth.
	There he is on the right of your screen.
	He's the guy who has to shut down the doors when Luke is lost in the snow.
	And they even dubbed John Ratzenberger.
	That's not even John Ratzenberger's real voice.
	Who, by the way, he's a real conservative.
	He's a good guy.
	Or I had to squeeze that one in.
	Also in Superman 3.
	Three or four, I think it may be four.
	What does he play?
	He plays like a nuclear bomb technician or something like that.
	Oh, that's right.
	That's when they're stealing the nukes.
	That's right.
	Exactly.
	Perfect.
	See?
	See?
	We are fit to do making movies great again.
	We have encyclopedic knowledge.
	All right, let's do it.
	Rating lightsabers 10 out of 10.
	You're going to do it for a modern audience.
	I'm going to do it for eternity.
	What do you give the second installment of the original, the only Star Wars trilogy, Chris?
	Well, I gotta say, it's very hard to rate this movie because I personally love it so much.
	I am biased and I am an unreliable judge of whether a modern audience will like this film.
	But that said, I'm gonna try to do my best.
	I'm going to give it an 11 out of 10 lightsabers.
	That's against the rules, but I agree, and I will give it 11 as well.
	Stay tuned, next week we're going to finish the trilogy with The Return of the Jedi.
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