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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: The culture war is really a class war in drag
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I will never apologize for standing up for LGBT2 plus kids' rights.
Even the woke people can't get it right.
Welcome!
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First.
That is the guy who's smoking out America!
What are you doing, Trudeau?
Was it you?
Did you drop a cigarette?
That was too much fun.
Will you play that again?
I can't even remember.
L-D-G-Q-L-H-E.
Just play that again.
It's really excellent.
I will never apologize for standing up for LGBTQ2 plus kids' rights.
Shouldn't he be impeached, Jeff?
I mean, he can't even get that right?
I mean, that's an insult!
That is so disrespectful, doing Pride Month to mess up that name.
All right, let's get back to work, guys.
That's the funnest cut we have for you today.
We have some amazing guests.
Miranda Devine has explained what's really going on with the smog on the East Coast.
Millions of acres on fire in Canada.
She'll be joining us to explain her superb article in the New York Post.
We'll have the one and only Greg Jarrett.
Is the president going to be indicted?
He says no.
He says he hasn't heard anything.
When the mainstream media says, THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN!
I think maybe, have I?
Eric, have they said that before?
The walls are closing in?
I think at least 472 times now.
That is correct.
And then we have an amazing third hour guest for you, the deep dive, the long form, the truth about what's happening on the left and what the game plan is.
We'll be talking to the political editor for Spiked Online.
But the best cut of the day, of course, it's either going to be who?
It's going to be President Trump.
It's going to be Victor Davis Hanson.
Or who else?
Could be Mark Levin.
This time, it's going to be former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, who, um, he has a better than that sad case with his whiteboard.
What's that guy with the whiteboard called, Eric, who goes on Fox all the time?
Karl Rove.
Yeah, that pathetic idiot who tries to say, look, I'm so clever, I can explain things with a whiteboard.
Newt Gingrich gives you one visualization, one analogy, and he nails it.
And here's his prediction or his analysis.
Of all the people who want to be president and their chances with regards to my old boss, President Trump.
Let's listen to Speaker Gingrich.
Look, I have a two-lake theory of what's going on.
There's a very large lake that has all the Trump voters.
There's a much smaller lake that has the non-Trump voters.
All of these candidates, including DeSantis, who's failed to sort of make the cut, all these candidates are in the non-Trump lake fighting for about 40% of the party.
Trump, I suspect, is popping champagne corks at Mar-a-Lago every time there's a new candidate.
I mean, what he wants is 15 or 20 candidates out there making a whole range of noise and one person that the country identifies with.
And if he gets that, he could be the nominee by March.
Bingo.
Bingo.
Why?
Why is he right about these two lakes, with more than 50% of the voters already locked in for President Trump, and then, what is it, another 10?
10 nominees eating each other up for the 40-odd percent in the other lake.
Why?
Why is that?
Because of what happened in 2015 and 2016.
We have to understand, and again, it really amuses me that an immigrant, a guy like me who didn't even have the blessings of being born here, has to remind my fellow Americans, who are natural born citizens, of what we did as a nation back in 2016.
Remember, what we did is something truly historic.
Every president, prior to the 45th president, every single one of them, from Washington to Obama, was connected by one characteristic.
What is that characteristic?
They were from different parties.
It's not their party affiliation or their political identity.
It's where they came from, where they hailed from.
Every single one of them was a politician Or a former elite military officer of high standing?
From George Washington, General Washington, to General Eisenhower, from Adams to Obama, every single president we have ever had came from the political and military elite.
Former senators, governors, congressmen, flag officers, And what did we do as a nation?
Of all stripes, every ethnicity known to man, every socioeconomic stratum, working class, middle class, white, black, brown, you name it.
In 2016 we said, no, sorry, we're done.
We've had it with you.
Just as happened in the UK the same year.
They said what about being part of this socialist club called the European Union?
More Brits than any time ever in history said, no, we've had it.
We've had it with this communism.
We're leaving.
We're voting for Brexit, for British exit of the EU.
Revolutionary!
I mean, truly shocking, earth-shattering, tectonic!
And then we did it here.
It never happens.
You don't have science.
Not even the great Ronald Reagan could do it.
Run for office, run for nomination, and get it the first time you run.
And not only that, he was a former governor.
President Trump had no political background.
None.
Zero.
He was a celebrity, a world-renowned celebrity, a businessman.
First time he runs, He not only gets the nomination and beats 17 other individuals who are establishment politicians, he wins the presidency.
The people who voted for him are loyal to him.
And what happened four years later?
How loyal are they?
After incessant smears, calumny, libel, He's a misogynist.
He's an Islamophobe.
He's a white supremacist.
And then literally, he's a Nazi?
He gets more votes.
Ten million more votes!
He gets more votes than any incumbent president in the history of our nation.
Sorry, Chris Christie.
Sorry, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, John Bolton, are you kidding me?
Take your silly moustache elsewhere.
You don't have a shot.
You don't have a snowball's chance!
Even the governor of Florida!
He's 20 to 30 points behind!
Why?
Because those Americans have still had it with the political elite.
They have no truck with you.
They don't want more swamp creatures.
They don't want petty individuals who use phrases like, hush money for porn stars.
Yeah, I'm looking at you Ron, you child.
They want a man who's going to stop the corruption and fight for America.
Yes, that's why he's got my vote.
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Hey Jeff, don't we have some breaking news?
You just shared something with me in the break.
What happened?
Yes, Biden just announced that the largest White House Pride event ever is being canceled because of the climate.
Sorry, what?
No Pride event at the White House?
No, it's going to be postponed, he said, not because of the weather, not because of the smoke, but because of the climate.
The climate.
What's Dylan Mulvaney going to do?
Is he going to cry on Instagram?
No, I'm not going to say what just came out of my mouth.
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Behave, Jeff.
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All right, I think he's back from Iowa.
Perfect timing.
A good friend of the show.
He is the Washington political editor for the conservative juggernaut that is Breitbart.com.
Matt Boyle, how are you doing?
Dr. G, always a pleasure.
Great to be here again.
Right.
We want to hear what's happening in Iowa.
We'll also share with you the latest from American Greatness.
But first things first, got to get your reaction.
We've now got 11 in the field for the primaries on the Republican side.
And Chris Christie is explaining why he supported President Trump and then now why he hates him.
This is Cut 10.
But it sounds like you're trying to save the Republican Party.
Well look, I believe the Republican Party has been losing now for nearly seven years.
After Donald Trump's win in 2016, which I was a large part of, you know, we haven't been able to win anything since then.
I don't remember that.
I mean, I was around here.
I did work on the transition team.
I worked for Mr. Trump when he was a candidate.
I worked for him in the White House.
But the idea that Chris Christie was a large part of the President's victory.
I mean, you're the Washington Bureau Chief.
Do you remember that?
I don't know, it depends on the meaning of the word large.
So, I mean if you're talking about... I mean large!
I mean he is large!
He is large, right?
Right, like if you're talking about a physical presence on the campaign, I guess, like you can make a case that, you know, I mean it's like when Bill Clinton said it's the definition of where it is, right?
Like it depends on what the meaning of the word is is, right?
Like it's, you know, I guess if you're talking about Chris Christie being a large part, I mean physically speaking large part, yes, like, but I mean, in terms of, like, actually being critical of Donald Trump's victory in 2016, no.
No.
So, like, he took a shot at Rubio in one of the primary debates, but Trump was going to beat him anyway.
So explain to me.
Help me out here.
Why somebody who's gonna get less than nothing in the primaries?
I mean, he's almost as low as Asa Hutchinson.
Why are these people even running?
Are they just selling books?
What are they doing, Matt?
Explain it.
I think the vast majority of them are looking at it like, because, all right, the political class, the media, etc., the pollsters, they would all tell you that this is a two-man race between Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis.
I think, though, that DeSantis is so weak out there, Since his announcement, which really didn't go well, he got no bump out of it in the polling.
You're seeing all the flaws with him as a candidate, being unable to connect with regular people.
Which isn't a knock on his policy as governor, by the way.
I think as governor he's done a great job, but as a candidate for president, it's a different ballgame.
He's just not connecting with people.
He's not taking the steps necessary to do it.
But Matt, there's not even a bounce.
This is the weird thing.
There's not even a bounce after he announces.
Right, so all these other people are watching that and they're saying, well, if he's not really in this thing, then maybe I should throw my hat.
Happens at some point or another and maybe I'll get a shot, right?
Like, so I think that it's a, it's a reflection on The weakness of the second place candidate that you're seeing all these people get into the race, right?
And so, by the way, the reason why I was in Iowa, I was at Pence's announcement yesterday, and I interviewed him after his thing, and I asked him that question.
I was like, clearly you don't see this as a two-man race.
And he made a comparison to the Indy 500, and he's like, look, I was at the Indy 500 The green flag hasn't even dropped on this race yet, right?
Like he's like, I don't want to, you know, there's some cars in certain positions out there ahead of the race starting, but this thing hasn't even started yet.
And so, um, that's his argument.
I asked him, Scott, I was at his announcement too in Charleston, South Carolina a few weeks ago.
And, uh, you know, I asked him a very similar question.
He doesn't see it as a two man race either.
Um, so the vast majority of these Republicans are getting into the race because they view They all want their shot at Trump, right?
Like, they all want their shot to be second.
And they don't see the current second-place candidate as running a sustainable long-term campaign.
No, that makes absolute sense.
That makes absolute sense.
Our good friend Chris Busco just sent me this this morning.
They've been doing polling across the country.
This is their polling out of Iowa.
And the summary is that the president is maintaining a double-digit lead over DeSantis and everybody else.
Yes.
15 points.
And by the way, every state in the union with, I think one or two exceptions out there, uh, by the way, every poll Trump leads literally every single poll for the last several months, most of them are double digit leads in state polls and national polls.
I think there's one poll out of Georgia that had Trump up nine instead of 10.
Okay.
So he's up nine in Georgia.
And I think there was one poll out of Utah that had Trump up one point instead of You know, a multi-percent lead.
But there's not a single poll out there, a legitimate poll from any university or independent pollster or anybody, a news organization poll or anything, that shows DeSantis leading Trump anywhere.
And it's just not materializing.
So that's why I think you're seeing a lot of these other people get in.
I thought the biggest story a few weeks ago, the week that Tim Scott and DeSantis got in the race, was not either of their entrances into the race.
It was the fact that at the Tim Scott announcement, Senator John Thune, the number two in the Senate, actually, it's not just that he came out in support and endorsed
I'll be getting my butt down to South Carolina tomorrow for a station event with my colleague Mike Gallagher.
And you know who's going to sing for us?
again it's a sign that the Senate Republicans and the Republican
establishment isn't going for, because they see the weakness in DeSantis and
they're not lining up. I'll be getting my butt down to South Carolina tomorrow for
a station event with my colleague Mike Gallagher and you know who's gonna sing
for us? I'm gonna announce it here. The kids who were told not to sing in Congress.
Yes, that choir is going to sing for us tomorrow in Greenville.
I can't wait.
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One of the things I pressed him on pretty hard was this thing that he said in his speech
where he said that Trump should never be the president again.
And I was like, well, he's clearly the frontrunner right now.
If he wins the nomination, are you saying you won't support him?
Right?
Like, and he actually came back, dialed it back a little bit and said he would support the nominee, whoever it is.
So whatever it's worth, but...
Look, he's an interesting guy, and, you know, I get it that there are disagreements with him, but I want to hear him out, because I do think he's smart.
So, I do think, you know, I mean, he served his four years as vice president for Trump, so, you know, he's got an interesting perspective, and I think that a lot of these candidates bring interesting perspectives to the race.
They all kind of bring something different, which I think is healthy, which is why I'm going to as many of these announcements as I can.
Well, it's fun.
I want to have as many people in the primaries as possible.
It's fun.
I agree.
I agree.
It's a lot of fun.
I can't wait to interview Doug Burgum.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Oh my gosh.
I never even heard of him before this!
No, on the show yesterday I said, I said, who? Who? Who is that?
Oh, Ivor Oz.
Unbelievable.
I literally work in politics, Dr. G.
I run politics coverage for Breitbart, the biggest conservative outlet in America.
I've never heard of this guy before, and now he's getting in.
But hey, you know what?
Maybe he brings something to the conversation.
I think Vivek, for instance, is bringing a lot of stuff to the conversation.
Totally, totally.
And same thing with all of these guys, so I think it's healthy.
Yep, agreed.
I could see Vivek in a Trump cabinet.
Absolutely.
Yep.
Alright, two minutes, standby.
Yep.
Oh, so we're gonna do, um... You want to do Sununu here?
Yeah, I do, but I want to use the Pensecut as well.
Oh, and I can save that to later.
I'll do my Pillow and then Sununu.
Pillow then Sununu, alrighty.
Oh, and Tidal for Miranda?
Um... What's so funny?
You mentioned, like, did Trudeau drop a cigarette or something, and I was just thinking... Yeah, Joe Biden and Trudeau doing such a great job, huh?
Yeah, great job.
Great job.
Half of America wasn't on fire and smoking this guy when Donald Trump was president.
76.
Play six again.
Six.
And I thought I could help to make him a better candidate and a better president.
If he won.
And I didn't want Hillary Clinton to be president.
And that's why I ran in the first place.
Turned out I was wrong.
I couldn't make him a better candidate, and I couldn't make him a better president.
And he disappointed me, and he disappointed a lot of people in my party, and a lot of people in this country, by the way he performed.
And for me, the breaking point was election night 2020, when he's out there at 2.30 in the morning, claiming the election was stolen, when I knew he had no evidence to prove that.
And when you undercut democracy in that way, you have forfeited the trust, in my view, to hold that office that he's now trying to regain.
Thirty seconds.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
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Matt, we're talking about primaries, we're talking about what's happening in Iowa.
President Trump is massively above everybody else.
I want to share this clip with you because I think you'll agree with me.
This is why 2016 happened and this is proof positive that the establishment GOP still doesn't understand what happened and still detests President Trump.
This is Chris Sununu, New Hampshire governor, who wouldn't be the governor if it weren't for his father, Using some very strange language about the GOP and the American people.
Play cut.
Sure, look, I think almost all the candidates have a very viable path to beating Donald Trump, and you know, you just said it right there, Chris isn't shy about casting criticism where it is well-deserved with the former president, but this is the problem.
All 12 of the other candidates need to cast the same type of criticism, because it's not that we're out there to beat Donald Trump.
Donald Trump doesn't represent the Republican Party, right?
He's the outsider, and we've kind of let him get away with kind of co-opting, I think, So, the president who got more votes than any other Republican in history, who got 64 million than 73 million, he's co-opted, he's kidnapped, he's hijacked the GOP.
I guess Chris Sununu and the other RINOs, they don't like the American people choosing their own president.
Well, and also I would argue that the reason why... Trump actually delivered on the stuff that these people have been saying they were going to do for decades, and he actually went in there and in four years did it.
Do you know how many presidents promised us, in both political parties by the way, that they would move the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem?
For 23 years.
For 23 years, left and right broke that promise.
Yeah, every president since back all the way to Clinton, I think back to Bush, the first Bush, the second Bush, at least did.
And nobody did it.
And Donald Trump just is like, you know, let's just go do it, right?
Like, you know, Trump was actually building the wall on the border.
Now look, he's got to get back in there to finish it.
But Trump actually did slow down to a screeching halt, basically.
illegal immigration in the country with the remain in mexico plan but he
No!
actually did all of these things but they say they do remember when john mccain was running
for president he was like we gotta stop the flow of the border right like it was
like if john mccain ever got in the white house you think he would have
actually done anything to fight illegal immigration
no like so and that's the point is that every of a republican voter out there
what they hunger for the reason why trump's so popular the reason why he got so many
votes the reason why he's leading in all the polls is because they know that he's
He's gonna actually go in there and do it all, right?
They know he's going to go in and do the things that he said he was going to do.
And so I just wholeheartedly disagree with those people.
And look, the other thing that Trump really zoned in on was the average American getting screwed by these trade deals.
NAFTA, TPP, Obama trade, all these You know, things that were happening for decades that screwed over American workers.
They saw the factories shutting down.
Go drive around Ohio.
Go drive around Michigan.
You'll see the closed factories.
They're still there, right?
They're not open, right?
And Joe Biden's not making it any better.
The Bushes, Obamas, and Clintons, etc.
All the way back, it really has been since Reagan that the American workers had an actual voice in the White House.
So both political parties have left the average American worker and family behind.
People are struggling again, and that's why I think Trump is on the precipice of perhaps pulling it off again.
I think he might.
And the MAGA versus RINO wings of the GOP.
Who's winning right now, Matt?
We've got 30 seconds.
Mag is winning all the way, right?
Like, I mean, look at all these elections, down-ticket races and whatnot.
Everybody likes to complain about the 2022 elections.
I think there were a lot of successes out there.
Katie Gray in Alabama, Mark Wayne Mullen in Oklahoma, JD Vance in Ohio, right?
So on and so forth.
And then the house races, too.
I mean, it's just incredible.
So Mag is winning all the way, and they know it.
Mega's winning.
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So, I'm walking the dogs this morning.
It's a little bit smoky.
It smells not very healthy.
And as I'm listening on my walk to Dan Bongino, he talks about this amazing article about what's really happening.
Is it the climate change?
Is it the alarmists?
Were they right?
And who wrote it?
A good friend of ours, and she's with us on the ground in New York, is at the end of the world, Miranda Devine!
Welcome back to America First!
Hey, thanks, Sebastian.
And I'm walking through the streets of New York and I can report that the air is sweet and clean and crisp.
Wow.
And you can see blue sky.
Wow, because we are all, yesterday, even your colleagues at Fox News were showing the footage of this orange pile of smoke over Manhattan.
I've got to ask you first, before we talk about your article, how many people have started wearing their masks again in New York?
Well look, I haven't actually seen any in person but I was working yesterday so all I could see was out the window but I am told reliably that they were handing out N95 masks at Chelsea Piers for free and our photographers took a lot of photos of people walking across the Brooklyn Bridge and just walking around town wearing those funny big sort of apocalypse masks.
All right, so the virtue signalers are out in force.
Let's talk about your superb article in the New York Post.
Everybody needs to read it.
I'm going to post it on my feed right now.
Let's put it up on the screen so everybody can see the article.
It's, uh, Smokey, New York isn't climate change.
It's bad forest management.
Please explain for us what's going on in Canada and in the woke areas of America like, uh, California.
Well, you know, the warning sign is always when the climate alarm sees on some natural phenomenon and they describe it as, you know, this is what the world is going to be like if we don't stop climate change.
And I mean, of course, That's all bogus.
And I knew from many years of reporting in Australia on exactly the same thing, which was that you had these vast tracts of land that had been pretty much taken over by governments and turned into sort of protected wilderness.
And they just never spent the money that was needed to manage those forests as they had previously been managed.
by sort of commercial interests, whether it's loggers who, you know, people say terrible
things about loggers, but loggers actually want to have the forest regenerate because
that's where they get their money.
Yes, so this is really important.
People miss this point.
Wildfires are bad for people who make their money out of lumber.
So they want to manage it.
They want to put in the fire breaks that will stop the fires, the access for firefighters.
So the whole idea that loggers are evil.
Loggers would have prevented this, wouldn't they?
Well yes, and they did for many, many decades.
And so when logging sort of came to an end, I know this happened in Australia and around the world, the governments just didn't do the proper management.
They just thought that they were doing what the Greens wanted by locking this land up as wilderness, not even allowing human beings to go and camp in it, and refused to do the sort of controlled burn, the
scientifically designed prescribed burning regime where you just burn a sort of mosaic pattern, little
low intensity burns where you burn out the dead wood and the brass.
The underbrush which you're not allowed to clear out in California.
I mean, you're literally creating tinder boxes over millions and millions of acres.
Exactly and the the the mentality of the greens is that this is a wildlife habitat
So you're going to burn out the homes of little cockroaches and little rats and the little wombat or whatever
But that's not true because when I've seen what happens the little creatures have enough time
They smell the smoke very very small fires So they just get up and they move to another part of the
forest and then in six years time when it's that Part of the forest turn to be burnt out. They move again
so it's and when you allow a wildfire to sweep through when you've got just
Years and years of piled up debris and basically tinder Those animals have no chance.
It is the cruelest thing.
And not only that, you are just incinerating the actual earth.
I've been into forests that have had these high inferno fires through them.
There's no seeds underneath.
The firefighters have dug into the ground for me and showed me.
Normally with a wildfire, you know, a natural, normal one, you would have some seeds left over
and the forest would regenerate.
But when they're this intense and there's so much debris, and particularly in countries like Canada and Australia,
where you've had, you know, indigenous people used to, they called it fire stick farming.
They used to regularly go through and do these light burns.
And that was to flush out animals and to clean the undergrowth.
Yeah, the woke white politicians clearly know much more than the indigenous people
who have actually been doing it for centuries.
centuries. Yeah.
She is the author, best-selling author of The Laptop from Hell.
You've got to read her article at the New York Post, also contributor for the Daily Telegraph.
And you can see her on Fox News.
Last question, only got a few seconds left.
I'm an avid fan of Monty Python.
I think you have a rather decent sense of humor.
And Dan Bongino even mentioned, huge tracts of land, the phrase used in your article.
Was that a reference to a certain Monty Python movie, The Holy Grail?
No, it wasn't, Dan.
What?!
I hate to tell you that I just... Well, just say... Just make me and Dan happy.
Just say it was.
Okay.
Huge tracts of land!
Huge!
Huge tracts of land!
Alright.
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Not yet.
It's been a guest-packed, jam-packed day so far.
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We love our listeners and our callers.
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Let's go to John, line one.
Dr. G, you realize if you introduce Krispy Kreme Kris to Dr. Lucas at PhD Weight Loss, you realize that he won't any longer have his own mobile zip code, don't you?
I know, I'm torn as to whether I help him out or whether we lose this icon of American politics called Krispy Kreme.
And he will not have huge tracts of land anymore.
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Alright, is that why you called us?
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Listen, one of the things I've got to dig at, though, before I get my main point, I'll be real quick.
Yeah.
What is... I've often wondered exactly what... You know, we just came past the... Well, okay, here.
Let's go with this one.
Spit it out, man!
Okay, here it goes.
Well, I've got huge tracts of land under me.
That's the problem.
Here's the story, though, Dr. G. When it comes down to what happened with the Capitol Police, it was just a really good thing that what was his name?
Lieutenant Michael Byrd was not there when they stopped the choir from singing Rushing Brook.
But it was the Rushing Brook Children's Insurrection on June 3rd.
We've got to call that.
The thing that I'm really wondering about is exactly how 79 years ago, if the men who stormed Omaha Beach would react if they saw RuPaul's Drag Queen, Story Hour, or
any of the other things like Queen of the Universe.
How they would deal with that.
I haven't even showed you.
Would they give their lives for that?
I haven't even showed you what the Air Force did today and what the CIA have done as well.
We'll share that in the next hour.
I thought I was going to get another call in, but John was being so verbose with his giant tracts of land.
Huge tracts of land.
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What's with the audience?
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I've been in the studio, in Sean's studio.
There's like six people in the audience.
Why does he do that?
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It's his new thing.
He's been doing it a lot lately.
Oh dear.
Do you think it adds to the show?
What's that?
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The same guy.
He's got to be a producer.
Every time he brings on a guest, you hear him say, yeah!
Like he does it really loud and do it like you're so excited.
It's got to be staged.
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The truth about DeSantis.
The truth about DeSantis under COVID and how he shut down that state as well.
But before we go to your calls, well let's just put it up there.
This is what the United States Air Force put on its Twitter page today.
Pay attention, Guy.
Thank you.
Put it back.
Did I read it, Guy?
Did I tell anybody what is on it?
I didn't!
Thank you.
This is the US Air Force Twitter account.
I'll read it to you.
June is hashtag Pride Month!
The Department of the Air Force proudly recognizes and celebrates generations of LGBTQIA+, I didn't make that up, that's what it actually says, service members and their contributions to the Air Force and the Space Force, like where they put their sexual organs, those contributions.
And it has underneath the transgender pride gay LMNOPOQ flag.
I just responded to the Air Force on my Twitter account and I said, I bet China's impressed.
And thanks to Alex, I have this as well.
I thought it was a deep fake, but it's not.
This is the Central Intelligence Agency.
It's got C.I.A.
PRIDE!
And then next, the next image from the C.I.A.
Twitter account.
C.I.A.' 's 2023 theme for Hashtag Pride Month is Well Come.
I don't know why it's got the dash between the O and the M. That's so weird.
And, uh, what does welcome stand for?
Wellness, equity, LGBTQ+, what happened to the I?
Community, openness, and me!
I'm not joking, it actually says at the bottom, me!
Exclamation mark, because serving your nation as an intelligence officer is all about me!
I'm gonna get really angry now.
Okay, let me go to your cause instead.
Our enemies are just laughing at us.
Just laughing at us.
Waiting patiently in New Jersey.
Jerry!
Line two.
I'm gonna pay a couple of things up.
When we talk about Pence, I'm gonna talk about DeSantis.
They have something in common.
First of all, DeSantis is backed by the old guard, Bush, and also his cohort, the Vice President Cheney.
As for the other guy, Pence, saying he saved the Constitution, baloney, he knows better than that.
He could have sent the electors back to Pennsylvania to double-check the count.
He basically went back into the gutter he came from.
That's point number one.
Point number two, this whole thing from January 6th was a setup because Pelosi, Schumer, and I believe even McConnell was involved.
They don't want it.
They wanted to do exactly what's going on right now.
That's my second point.
And the third point is, in terms of the management going on in California and the other guy, I have something in common.
They're both idiots.
There's over a trillion dead trees not cut in California.
And I mean, it's outrageous.
You don't manage the trees.
You have new foliage coming in when you replace that, and it's healthier and better.
Yeah.
No, you're absolutely right, and Pence was lying about January 6th.
He was fully in his power to send back dubious results from those electoral college uh... states that uh... had the results flip in the course
of six hours he's lying and he's not fit for office thank you jerry thank you
for waiting also very patiently on the line from silver spring a good friend
of ours line three victor
is the best in what i was sitting on my front porch
the other day or listening to you
via my lady a device through my radio a neighbor came over
the same one that i gave the might pillow pet beds for her cat
Yes.
And she got snarky and said, you know, Trump is going to be indicted and he's going to go to jail.
Will you still vote for him?
And I said, you know me better than that.
Of course I will.
Along with a hundred million other other people.
So I got to ask you, without any apropos, your liberal neighbor, Literally comes up to you and says, oh, Tam's going to get indicted.
She actually did that.
Yes.
That's pathetic.
I'm surrounded by them.
Well, I know you're a good guy.
You're a sane person.
You're an island of sanity amongst all the crazies in Maryland.
That just tells you how small minded and utterly pathetic they are.
Hold the line, my friend.
Hold the line from one great caller and loyal listener.
Hey, thanks Dr. G. It is amazing and shocking what the Air Force and the CIA have done.
The good thing is, here in Orange County, California, we have another win, Dr. G!
Tell us, tell us what happened.
At the Planned Parenthood, Tustin and Orange on 700 South Tustin Avenue.
Her name is Lydia.
Was a young woman.
She actually was sitting kind of on the curb of Planned Parenthood, and I was one of the first ones
there and I spoke to her.
And at first, and I realized she spoke no English.
It was Spanish.
So I got into my Spanish.
Nice.
Not going to get rid of her baby.
We gave her all the materials and everything.
So hang on.
So she was going to abort her baby?
That's why she was our Planned Parenthood.
Alright, so I gotta ask you this because you're so brave that you do this.
Where do you even begin that conversation with somebody to save that life?
Because you can't be aggressive, you can't be Bible-bashing.
How do you approach a young woman who's there to take the life of their unborn?
Dr. Gene, very softly, and you sit down where they're sitting, and we say, hey, you know, we've got another alternative.
Don't give your baby up, please.
This is We can help you.
We have other clinics that will help you.
We have adoption agencies and we have other things to help you.
And they look at you like shocked because no one's ever said that there's these outreach things.
You know, Google blocks all this stuff.
That is available to all these young women.
Of course.
And that's kind of how we started.
We go very softly.
We open up the cycle.
And how long does it usually take?
For example, how long did you have to sit with and talk to this young lady?
I would say, and we were alternating different ones of us that could speak Spanish.
It took about a half an hour to an hour.
God bless you.
Yeah, Dr. G. So it was amazing today with Lydia.
And here's another crazy thing.
A shock of all shocks.
In Orange County, where we all started and we all met and started this, I am for the voiceless.
President Trump, there's already tables, there's already people with flags
at our spots on MacArthur Boulevard and PCH.
There's people driving around with Trump stuff.
Dr. G, we're gonna fight and do our best to win, to get our president back into office,
but we're not giving up.
Then the last thing, Assembly Bill 665, and that's the Senate bill, that's the Assembly bill, excuse me, that gives 12 year old consent, not having to tell their parents for consent for mental health, health, and it didn't pass. They actually cancelled the hearing
with the Senate because the stupid assembly people passed it.
But in the Senate, it was cancelled.
So, people, keep calling your senators here in California to kill Bill 665. We don't want that.
We do not want parental, parent intervention only.
Not state intervention.
Parents' rights, parents' rights, parents' rights.
Most important thing that you've said today is that you and your friends, the voice for the voiceless, you saved an unborn life.
God bless you, Antoinette.
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Hey, buddy.
Hey, how are you?
Good, good.
What is going on?
Everybody's breathlessly saying I have to be on their show tonight because of the impending indictment.
Then President Trump says he hasn't been approached.
What the heck is going on?
Well, apparently he received a target letter, um, as opposed to, you know, a subject, which means they're predisposed essentially to, uh, render an indictment based on grand jury.
So, um, you know, it looks like it's heading in that direction, but he hasn't been told he's going to be indicted, but his lawyers received the usual target letter.
Got it.
Okay.
All right.
Let's explain that to the listeners.
Perfect.
Right, we'll mention your book.
What else is important?
What do you want to talk about?
Well, you know, obviously I think talk about, you know, the case that Garland and the special counsel, Jack Smith, have.
I think it's a case that's flawed.
Yep.
You know, and then You know, Merrick Garland, uh, dual treatment.
Hunter Biden doing nothing.
Good.
Perfect.
All right.
60 seconds.
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Could you ever imagine any president of either party not being able to recall the name of the man who probably most single-handedly saved Western civilization?
I mean, Winston Churchill should not be a difficult name The German balconies exist now because of the warehouse at Danneville.
This happened earlier today in the Oval Office with the British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak,
who had to help remind Biden what Churchill's name is. Cut one.
The German balconies exist now because of the warehouse in the middle.
That second balcony you see, the first balcony you see going up.
So at any rate, and there's an awful lot of stories that are told, probably a bunch of
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Anyway.
Wandering around at three in the morning.
Yeah, Winston Churchill bothering, uh, bothering Mrs. Roosevelt.
Yeah.
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All right, what's happening?
Lots of contradictory information.
The so-called leaks.
President Trump's been indicted.
It's gonna happen.
President Trump stating yesterday, no, he has not been informed of any impending indictment.
Let's ask a man we trust.
Political and legal analyst extraordinaire for Fox News and author of The Trial of the Century, his latest work.
Greg Jarrett, welcome back to America First.
Hey, Seb, great to be with you as always.
Thank you.
So what's the... give us the skinny here.
What's going on?
Is President Trump right?
Are the leakers right?
What do you expect in the next 48 hours?
Well, I think Trump is right.
He hasn't been told that he is going to be indicted, but apparently his attorneys received the usual target letter from the Department of Justice.
That is to say they're looking At what they regard as credible evidence derived from the Jack Smith Special Counsel, as well as the grand jury.
So a target letter means we're looking at this evidence as a potential prosecution against you.
We know there are a couple of grand juries, one in Washington, D.C., another one down in South Florida.
You know, listening to testimony, collecting evidence, reviewing it, and so forth.
So, I think Trump is right.
He hasn't been told he's being indicted, but his lawyers received a target letter.
All right, so let's look at the case that Jack Smith is trying to bring, or the documents case.
I believe he's a lawyer, Rogan O'Hanley, he goes by D.C.
Drano, posted this, I think it was yesterday or the day before, fascinating, from the Federal Archives.
It popped up in a case regarding, I think it was McCabe, and I don't think McCabe realized what he had done.
So this is a presidential document, a memorandum of January the 19th, the day before President Trump left the office.
It's signed by the president and it states, declassification of certain materials related to the FBI's crossfire hurricane investigation.
It's right there in black and white.
Next page has the president's signature.
So how can you bring this case If we have a presidential, not a whim, not a statement, not a tweet, but a presidential document signed by the president in the federal record saying, I'm declassifying documents related to this case, doesn't it make it hard to prosecute him?
Yeah, it absolutely does.
And you know, if an indictment is brought, there are two main questions.
Were the documents at Mar-a-Lago classified or declassified?
Trump says the latter.
And I think it's going to be very hard to prove the former, because he has unfettered discretion to declassify.
The second question is, does Garland really have the power to criminalize a civil statute?
Oh, explain this.
This is crucial.
So explain the difference between the statutes referring to presidential records and the Espionage Act, because this is crucial.
You know, Garland is the most partisan Attorney General in history, and he's taken this dispute over documents, presidential records, that's governed exclusively by a civil statute, which is the Presidential Records Act.
Remember, under the law, a specific statute, which that act is, supersedes any broader statute.
Uh, which Garland apparently wants to cite, so he's criminalizing a civil statute by contorting the law.
Uh, and of course, when he discovered his own boss, Joe Biden, did the same thing.
Garland suddenly shifted to, uh, okay, well, uh, obstruction.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
Uh, Trump wasn't sufficiently cooperative with the FBI.
Well, I've got news for Garland.
He didn't have to be cooperative under the law.
The law doesn't require somebody to cooperate, especially since it was the stated opinion of the Department of Justice that a former president can take whatever he wants under the Records Act.
In fact, for ten years, that was the standard.
It was endorsed by a federal judge in the famous Bill Clinton case, a similar case.
You know, Garland, because it's Trump, decided to toss it out the window.
His real problem is that obstruction requires a corrupt purpose.
What's that?
Well, the Supreme Court defined it.
Immoral, depraved, or evil intent.
There's no evidence of that.
If Trump honestly believed he was entitled to the documents under the Presidential Records Act, there's no corrupt purpose, and thus no obstruction.
All right, this is why we have Greg Jarrett on the show.
I think that's the best explication of the merits or the demerits of all of this I've heard in the space of eight minutes ever.
So stay on, stay on.
We want to hold you for one more segment.
I'm going to drill down how this could actually shake out in a court of law.
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Well, I'm glad you liked it.
No, I mean, it's serious.
I mean, these are the things that we just don't, you know, the legacy media just doesn't want to discuss.
I mean, the civil versus criminal.
And then what, you know, obstruction of justice requires the prosecutors to prove, you know, the malice, the moral turpitude.
It's like, how are they going to make that case?
Well, the problem with the mainstream media, they're in the bag for Biden and against Trump, but they don't understand the law.
Not that you have to be a lawyer, just spend a little time studying it, for God's sakes.
But they're lazy, they're stupid, they're biased.
Play Cup 4, Eric.
I think the word that you could use here that was probably inadvisably used in the Georgia investigation is that an indictment is imminent.
I mean, I think it's highly... I mean, they're basically telling him they're likely to indict him, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be tomorrow.
It doesn't necessarily mean that next week.
I mean, but it does mean that if you are a believer in the rule of law and by hankering for the rule of law, Santa's going to come early this year, and it's not going to be in Christmas.
It's going to be sooner rather than later.
Who is that?
George Conway.
Oh.
George Conway.
All right, come in with that.
Patriot Supply.
Okay.
Oh, and play cut seven.
Seven.
Well, it certainly seems like they're closing in on the target and the person who undoubtedly set all of the events of January 6th into motion.
I mean, I recall one of the things we learned in the January 6th committee was that all
of the right-wing protests against Biden were set up for January the 20th for Inauguration
Day as if to say, we are going to be your opposition.
We question you and so on, but not January 6th.
But Donald Trump got everybody to switch it to January 6th.
He galvanized the focus on January 6th.
So Donald Trump really is the mastermind and the ringleader of the entire operation.
Incredible.
How's the book doing, Greg?
Hey, it's good.
It made the bestseller list on Publishers Weekly.
My publisher, Simon & Schuster, said it should have been on the New York Times list, but of course, I work for Fox News, so they do everything they can to mess with the numbers.
And so, you know, that's how it goes.
I remember when my published I was really pissed because my first book was a New York Times bestseller and then for the for the second edition they removed that New York Times bestseller thing from the cover because they said the whole thing's a racket and we're not we're not we're not going to support the this whole racket anyway we're not going to use it we're just going to call it best-selling book yeah I mean you know the first two books I wrote were Number one and number three on the New York Best Seller list, New York Times Best Seller, only because I sold so many they couldn't possibly pull their usual shenanigans.
Good for you.
Alright, 20 seconds.
You're good.
I think the word that you could use here that was probably inadvisably used in the Georgia
investigation is that an indictment is imminent.
I mean, I think it's highly... I mean, they're basically telling him they're likely to indict him.
But it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be tomorrow.
It doesn't necessarily mean that next week.
I mean, but it does mean that if you are a believer in the rule of law and by hankering for the rule of law, Santa's going to come early this year.
And it's not going to be in Christmas.
It's going to be sooner rather than later.
He didn't say DeSantis is coming early, he said Santa's coming early.
That's George Conway, Kellyanne Conway's ex.
The funniest thing about that clip is the chyron, the description at the bottom of the screen, it said George Conway, conservative attorney.
Yeah, that's hilarious.
Let's talk to somebody who really knows the law and who speaks the truth.
The latest book, it is a bestseller.
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It is Trial of the Century by Greg Jarrett.
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Greg, you wrote that book because you believe in the judicial system.
You believe in this system that we've created in America.
You expertly explained Why the Jack Smith case is just not a case.
What's gonna happen in in the court of law?
Do you believe that Justice will be done, or will it just be a sham?
We've seen what's happened to the likes of Navarro, Bannon, Manafort, and others.
We've seen people like Sussman, because they were Democrats, escape scot-free.
What's going to happen in the next few months?
Give us your expectation.
Well, it's impossible for a guy like Donald Trump to get a fair trial in the District of Columbia, where the grand jury is convened.
There is a grand jury in Florida as well.
And Garland doesn't have the integrity to file it where the case belongs, where the documents were found at Mar-a-Lago.
So I'd move for a change of venue down to where it should be in Florida.
At least Trump has a chance of getting a fair trial down there.
You know, as I say, Garland has done more damage to our system of justice than any attorney general.
He has targeted Trump while protecting Joe and Hunter Biden.
The left has weaponized the legal system, and Garland is their avatar.
And there's a reason for this.
He was scorned as a Supreme Court justice, and so he's now launched a vengeance campaign against Trump, whom he blames.
Go a little bit deeper on that double standard with regards to President Trump and specifically Hunter Biden.
Demonstrate why Merrick Garland is not really an Attorney General.
Well he should have recused himself and is required to disqualify in the Hunter Biden case and he has ignored written demands from Congress to do so.
So that tells me the fix is in.
And just, for example, look at the China deals that the Bidens were intimately involved in.
Deeply troubling, because these involved people linked to the Chinese Communist Party.
We're talking about tens of millions of dollars from Beijing, funneled through a web of shell companies, and then magically landing into Biden family bank accounts.
What was the money for?
What were those countries buying?
What was Joe Biden selling?
You know, his defenders in the media and Democrats say, well, you can't prove any of the millions actually went into Joe's wallet.
Well, the law doesn't care.
You know, using your office to confer a benefit in exchange for cash to your family, that's the same thing.
It's still a crime under the U.S.
Code.
And your expectations with regards to this document that now in a redacted form will be shared with the members of the Oversight Committee and Chairman Comer when it comes to Joe Biden being bribed.
Is this just more bread and circus?
Well, the FBI all along, which refused to turn it over or even acknowledge it, now says, yeah, here's the document and under threat of contempt of Congress is coughing it up.
To all members of the committee.
But at the same time, they're saying, oh, there's nothing to it.
We looked into it.
Trust us.
You'd have to be a moron to trust the FBI.
Their corruption and malicious conduct and their malfeasance and misfeasance is legendary.
I'm glad the committee gets to look at it.
They can launch their own intensive investigation to determine whether Joe Biden took a $5 million bribe in exchange for influencing a U.S.
policy toward Ukraine.
Straight shooting as ever, quote, you'd have to be a moron to trust the FBI.
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Great title for that one Something about Garland.
He really hit Garland pretty hard.
He did, but I think if you want to get eyes, it's got to be... Something about like Trump can't get a fair trial, maybe.
No, no, no, no, no.
What happens if President Trump gets indicted?
If the DOJ indicts President Trump?
Yeah.
What else do you need?
Just Professor Williams.
Can you tell that guy that his show should have been recorded already?
That O'Connor chap?
He just materialized out of nowhere!
Oh, you need Williams?
Yeah, just Williams.
Ends and outs?
In and out.
Ninety.
In's and out's, okay.
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I'm your colleague, Dr. G. Colleague?
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You mean you usurped half of my studio after some people at Salem said give him a TV show?
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It's hotting up, it's hotting up.
If you don't know this guy, you should.
You used to have, what was your vertical for Breitbart way back when?
Breitbart TV.
So I started writing for Andrew at Big Hollywood.
John Nolte and I, John was my boss, he was the editor at Big Hollywood.
Hang on, hang on, I'm going to interrupt you right there.
What was it like working for Nolte?
Was that tough?
Was he a tough boss?
He's the greatest!
Yeah?
Yeah!
Because he's a great writer.
Everybody over there was a great boss.
Honestly.
So you were writing movie stuff?
Hollywood stuff?
I wrote theatre stuff because I'm on Broadway.
I used to do that.
But I would also write TV.
And then we started venturing into media criticism and the cable news networks.
That's when he launched Big Journalism.
That was the third vertical.
Big Government was the second, which was launched with the Acorn tapes with James O'Keefe, right?
Then I started writing at Big Journalism, and then after a year, and that was all for free, by the way.
So all you kids out there who want to make it big, do what you love.
Do it for free if you have to.
Not forever.
It's hard to pay the bills.
A year into it, Andrew hired me, and within a few months he put me at Breitbart TV, and I was the editor-in-chief of Breitbart TV, which was basically back then, that was 2010, 2009, and it was one of the only sites that just aggregated videos that appealed to conservatives.
But one of the things that he really wanted to do, not just appeal, you know, it's sort of like Rumble, sort of, you know, but it wasn't a platform to Um, to present, it was an aggregator of videos that appealed to the conservative audience, but it also appealed to producers of radio shows, because those soundbites on those videos became the sound for talk radio, and that's how I got into talk radio.
I've got a question for you about Andrew, but it was Jeff's idea to get you in studio, because you're here.
Jeff, why did you want him in studio?
You're thrusting me on the doctor.
I mean, just fast.
We put him in quick.
I thought there was a black sandbag on the floor.
No, he wasn't sandbagged by a black sandbag on the floor, no.
I almost did trip over the... He crept under the camera.
I think we get credit at Salem for vertical integration, don't we?
I think there might be a little extra something in our check for this one.
I'm not holding my breath.
Whenever you can cross the street.
I just have a little something.
A little something, a soupçon, a chipolata.
Alright, one of my big regrets in life.
I don't have any.
Not big ones, anyway.
One of my big ones is that I worked for Breitbart.
I was the national security editor for Breitbart.
I remember.
On the Big Peace page, mostly.
But I never met Andrew.
So he'd already passed.
Did I know that?
I never met him.
Really?
Oh, he would have loved you!
Oh, I think so.
I've watched the documentaries.
The guy is clearly, as the Hungarians say, he had an extra wheel up there.
Genius level.
What would Andrew think about today and what the left has done and the woke-ification?
We showed the trans flag on the Air Force Twitter page today, the CIA going totally woke.
Would Andrew say we're losing, winning?
Where would he be at?
I have a little bit of a pet peeve about people who predict what Andrew would say because he was wholly unpredictable.
And that said, he had some grounded, very specific principles and values.
But we'd like things with a parents' revolt.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, he'd be all over.
Remember, he was one of the first people to embrace the Tea Party movement in 2009 against Obama.
We've used the cuts.
Huge.
And so he would have loved that.
The exposure of the media right now was always Andrew's dream.
And everybody knows it now.
The vast majority of the American people, the polls show that everyone gets what the media is now.
In fact, the best part about it is that they expose themselves.
CNN in particular.
I remember him yelling at me one time because I was polling.
He yelled sometimes.
lovingly. I was pulling a lot of clips of MSNBC, look at what Keith Oberman said
today, look at what Rachel Maddow said, you know, stuff like that, and he goes,
that's the easy stuff, they're not the problem, that we know who they are, the
problem is CNN, because CNN pretends they don't have a bias, they're the ones who...
Early on, they were pretty good.
I remember the Gulf War, the first Gulf War.
Oh, way back, yeah.
That was news.
Well, when our friend Chris Plant worked for them.
Of course, yeah.
But this is a really important point, that it's the ones who... Rachel Maddow, we know who Rachel Maddow is.
But when you're purveying an air of being a journalist, but really you're doing propaganda, that's a dangerous thing.
There is a generation of people, Dr. G, who think George Stephanopoulos is just that kindly dude on Good Morning America.
Oh, he does a cooking shtick and things.
They have no idea that he was the liar-in-chief for Bill Clinton.
All right, we've got 30 seconds left.
What's on your show tonight?
We've got Representative Nancy Mace to talk, you know, because Joe Biden specifically was asked about what she said about his corruption in the FBI documents.
We've got Nancy, we've got Tom Fitton to also talk about that stuff and a couple of other people I don't remember.
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He doesn't, no.
He's just a face.
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It's got a good studio, at least half of it.
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Thanks for taking my call.
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So the left, the left likes to Invent terms and phrases and then use them against us because they're sinister.
And so let's go through this trans thing.
They're really not trans.
They're female impersonators.
That's the first thing.
The second thing is they are doing not cultural appropriation, which is, you know, a minimum, minimally triggering, minimally invasive.
You know, who's the real victim there?
I don't know.
Yes.
Yeah, Tom, I was actually thinking... I was thinking exactly the same thing this morning.
I heard somebody else use that term.
We need to start using it.
They're not trans.
They're impersonators.
Yeah, I've got a question for you.
actually parodies of women and they're insulting to women.
That's a great point I'm gonna use it stay on the line let's get Tom a copy of
the war for America sold. Let's go to Greg in Pittsburgh you've got a minute
and a half Greg. Yeah I've got a question for you why is it that nobody's talking
about what happened on the 6th since Carlson got canned off of Fox? He's
the only one that was talking about it and then they told... Hang on, what
are you talking about?
Nobody's talking about the 6th.
What on earth do you mean?
Talking about what happened on the 6th.
What do you mean nobody's talking about it?
You listen to this show, you listen to my colleagues, you listen to Dan Bongino, you listen to Mark Levin.
What are you talking about?
Nobody's talking about January 6th.
Where is the video that was sent to Fox from... It wasn't sent.
You're not listening to this show.
Two days ago, Julie Kelly explained it.
No video was handed over to anybody.
There are three terminals on Capitol Hill that you are allowed to access.
She's one of them.
Tucker's production team was allowed to handle them.
Nobody was given any reels of tape or any hard drives.
That's the problem, Greg.
Where was the story?
Where did the story come from that McCarthy gave it to Fox?
It wasn't real.
It wasn't true.
He gave access to the terminals to his production team.
That's the problem, Greg.
And now others have access to it, but it is logistically complicated by the fact they have to go into Congress and to those specific terminals Greg!
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It's a rather modern thing.
The whippersnappers use it.
It's if somebody's ignoring you, who you thought you could rely upon.
I was worried that one of my favorite guests was ghosting me.
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It's been a minute!
Welcome back to America First!
Seb, it's so great to be back.
It's been far too long.
And just to let you know, I haven't only been ghosting you, I've been ghosting everyone while I've been cracking on with this book and doing various other things.
But it's wonderful to be back.
I've missed our chat so much.
All right.
Well, that makes me feel moderately better.
Not much, but moderately better.
Let's put it out there, the book.
Let's just get it out of the way.
I've already got my copy, thanks to Brendan.
A heretics manifesto, essays on the unsayable.
It's a neologism, I think.
It's a new word.
And he's actually got it serialized, you know, of all places, the Daily Mail.
So he's told me he's already bought a villa in the south of France with the profits of that serialization.
But seriously, we've got to get down to work.
First things first, I spent yesterday morning On my buddy Alex Marlow's radio show.
He has the Breitbart show.
He was number one employee working for Andrew Breitbart.
And we had this funky discussion at the beginning about taxonomies and labeling people in pigeonholes.
And I kind of unburdened myself to my friend Alex, who I've known for years, and I said, I don't even like calling myself a label.
Conservative, Republican, I just don't like it because I'm the kid of a man who literally escaped a communist prison as a political prisoner.
I grew up under Maggie Thatcher so that kind of forms me but I don't be squished into a box.
I thought that was difficult with me.
I look at you, Brendan.
I follow you on Instagram.
This guy has a superb Instagram game, by the way.
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The last half a dozen articles from Spiked Online under your name, let's just put these up there, and let me just read the titles.
For a man who I think is, you know, of the left, you write things like, Why Capitalism Loves Transgenderism, Why the Trans Movement is So Intolerant, Dylan Mulvaney's parody of womanhood, why they hate Tucker Carlson, the revenge of the technocrats, on and on.
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But first, it may be impossible to do this.
You may resent the question.
Tell us who Brendan O'Neill is and where you stand as political editor in this political universe.
It's such a good question and it's such a tough question to answer these days.
I feel a little bit like you, Seb.
I'm never quite sure how to answer it.
I don't want to put myself in a box.
I don't want to pigeonhole myself.
And increasingly, maybe it's a thing about getting older, I don't know what it is, but increasingly I see myself as borrowing from different kinds of political traditions.
Sometimes I feel very left-wing, sometimes I get very angry with the injustices that poor people face and the fact that not enough is being done to help left-behind communities, and the old lefty in me comes out.
Other times I feel very conservative.
I want to conserve education and the teaching of great knowledge and the teaching of the gains of Western civilization rather than allowing education to be overrun by woke anarchists who want to teach about 72 genders and white shame.
And then other times I feel quite radical, like with the vote for Brexit, the fact that that upset the elites of Europe, who were shaking in their boots for years after the vote for Brexit, because the British plebs dare to express their discontent with the European Union.
Then I feel quite revolutionary and quite radical and I feel really proud.
That my fellow voters, including me, made that decision, made that quite radical break from the European Union.
So I have different feelings at different times.
But I guess if I was to sum myself up, I would just say I'm pro-freedom.
I think freedom is always a good thing.
There's not enough of it, particularly freedom of speech.
The more freedom we have, then at least we have the freedom to discuss ideas and let them clash together.
And then we'll be in a better position politically, I think.
I love that, I love that.
I like patriotism as well, you're a patriot, you love your country, whether it's the UK, whether it's America, but lovers of freedom, lovers of countries that have demonstrated their commitment to freedom over time, I think at least that's a good starting point.
Okay, let's broaden the aperture, let's not talk about you or me, let's talk about the environment.
I was in the White House.
I hate autobiographies.
I don't have the time for biographies or autobiographies.
You know, the idea that somebody remembers what they did 30 years ago, I don't believe, number one.
And number two, I'm not interested what Eisenhower had for breakfast, you know, in 1944 on April the 12th.
I just don't have the patience or the time.
I've made two exceptions.
I've read Andrew Breitbart's autobiography, Righteous Indignation, which is a life changer, especially chapter six, where he explains the rise of the new left and the Frankfurt School and everything else.
It is an incredible book that actually spurred me to write my second book.
And then, when I was in the White House, Thanksgiving weekend, Steve Bannon, my boss, said, you know, you've got to read J.D.
Vance's book, Hillbilly Elegy.
And I was like, it's so fashionable.
Everybody's reading it.
OK, I couldn't put it down.
I read the whole book that Thanksgiving weekend.
Why?
Because it explained for me why Trump.
And even why Brexit, from the point of view of a working class family who had been betrayed by what Steve calls the Unaparty.
And I want to ask you on the other side of the pond in the UK, it seems to me that One of the reasons we can't use labels accurately, even for ourselves, is because the labels don't mean anything anymore.
The right isn't conservative, and the left doesn't represent the working class.
It is this amorphous blob that scratches each other's backs, plays footsie under the table, and really doesn't give a crap about the working man or the middle class.
Is that an overstatement, Brendan?
Not at all.
I could not agree more.
We have three mainstream parties here in the UK, the Conservative Party, the Labour Party and the Liberal Democrats.
And as you say, the Conservative Party is not conservative.
The Labour Party has nothing to do with people who labour and in fact looks upon them with contempt.
It views them as feckless and backward and xenophobic and obese and people who need help and social correction rather than rights and more jobs and greater economic clout.
And the Liberal Democrats don't believe in liberty or democracy.
They are now a creepily authoritarian party that want to overthrow the vote for Brexit.
They're still talking about the 2016 vote for Brexit, which they still want to reverse.
I thought that had to die.
Are you seriously telling me members of the quote-unquote elite still want to sabotage the decision of 17 and a half million Brits, the biggest vote in history?
Yep, absolutely.
The largest vote in the history of this country.
There are still members of the chattering classes and the political class that want to overthrow it and want to bring us back into either the European Union across the board or at least into the single market, which is a key part of the European Union.
So their distaste for democracy and for the decision we made in 2016 still exists.
It's still very powerful.
It's still very hateful at times.
They refer to people in the most obnoxious way, as they say that there are low information communities who were led astray by demagogues.
They voted the wrong way because they dared to disagree with the elite, correct?
I mean, this is what I find so funny with the pejorative use of populism.
You mean the majority of the people disagreed with the elite?
That's populism?
Absolutely.
You know, if you ever look up the word populism in the dictionary, it means ideas that are popular.
That's literally what it means.
And Brexit was a popular idea.
17.4 million people voted for it.
I am so happy that I was one of them.
I think it's the best vote I've ever cast and probably the best vote I will ever cast.
To break Britain away from the oligarchy in Brussels, the illiberal oligarchy, anti-national sovereignty, anti-freedom.
It treats countries with utter contempt.
Look at what it's currently doing to Hungary.
It looks upon Hungary as this vile country, this horrible, regressive outpost that needs constant correction from Brussels.
It overturned votes against the European Constitution in 2005 in France and the Netherlands.
It punished Ireland when the Irish people dared to vote against the Lisbon Treaty.
And of course, Brussels tried to stop Brexit from happening as well.
This is a contemptuous, anti-democratic, oligarchical institution.
And the fact that we left it was a wonderful moment in British, and I would say, world history.
But you're right.
There's no mystery at all as to why so many working-class voters voted for Brexit.
They wanted to give a two-fingered salute, as we call it in the UK.
I think in America you do a one-fingered salute, you flip the bird.
At the establishment, at the Brussels establishment, the Westminster establishment, the technocratic elites who look down their noses at ordinary people who think we're stupid and vulgar and don't know what we're doing.
This was a revolt of ordinary people against the establishment, and it has been a long time coming.
And I think there was a very similar dynamic behind the vote for Trump.
And I think what happens in the next presidential election in the U.S.
is going to be fascinating in terms of the question of populism.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's going to be a rollicking ride for the next year and a half.
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Brendan, a lot of your pieces track the rise of this transgender radicalism, its ideological insertion into the schooling system, its effect on the youth.
I want to share with you a viral video from yesterday, from Wednesday.
From literally one of the most liberal counties in America, it's not far from DC, it's Montgomery County in Maryland, outside a school where Muslims and Christian parents had basically had enough.
Play cut.
Protect your children! Protect your children!
So I read one of the headlines of your article, why the trans movement is so intolerant from Spiked Online
And I just want to illustrate that it makes you smile.
That video was posted by Latinos for Trump.
And it's about Christian parents and Muslim parents saying, protect our children.
I don't know.
I just got a smile.
I think they've overstepped the mark.
How significant is this?
I always say, I think this is the issue.
This is the Damascene moment.
The left has just jumped the shark, to use a phrase from the 70s.
Where do you stand on this issue and the idea that Hispanics Christians and Muslims are coming together to say no!
It's wonderful.
I mean that's real solidarity.
That is cross-community solidarity.
People coming together in defense of their children and their children's right to have an education that has not been infiltrated by a pretty reckless ideology.
An ideology that does push some children over the edge towards hormonal treatment, surgical interventions and A dangerous view of themselves as being the wrong sex.
I think parents are absolutely right to be worried about that and the fact that it's falling at the moment to religious parents often to raise the alarm bells is interesting and important.
We actually had a similar rebellion here in the UK in the city of Birmingham Two or three years ago, a group of Muslim parents protested outside a school because their kids were being indoctrinated with LGBT ideas, including the idea that you could change sex.
And the Muslim parents were having had enough of it and said, no, we don't want this for our kids.
And I completely supported them.
And I think the reason this is such an important issue is because, and I write about this in the book, in A Heretic's Manifesto, if we don't have the right to say that a man is not a woman, then we lose everything.
Because then we are living under the purest form of tyranny, which is where the elites think they have the right to redefine reality itself.
Where they think they can pressure us to deny the evidence of our own eyes, deny the light of our own reason, and instead force us to genuflect to their ideological beliefs and their lies.
Their lies that a man can be a lesbian.
Their lies that you can change sex.
So this is about defending truth and defending reason, and I think it is actually the cutting-edge issue in the culture wars, because if we give in on this, then we're giving in on our right to understand the world around us.
The very first chapter of the book Heretic's Manifesto, which is out literally this week, is called Her Penis.
You are a journalist, you're a man of letters.
How do we get to a place where I can go right now and within a nanosecond I can give you hundreds of articles from quote-unquote journalists using the phrase her penis.
How did a profession arrive at that?
I mean Monty Python's skit from 1979 about Loretta was funny.
Now it's deemed to be journalism, Brendan?
It's extraordinary, isn't it?
And it does really bear a lot of thinking about how we got to this situation.
And I think what's happened to journalism in particular is quite shocking, because what they're doing is they're sacrificing truth to ideology.
And it's like something straight out of Orwell's 1984.
If you remember in that novel, one of Winston Smith's jobs at the Ministry of Truth That is literally happening right now.
A couple of years ago, there was an article in the New York Times, and it also appeared on the BBC News website here, which said that an 83-year-old woman had murdered and decapitated another woman who was in her 60s.
And I was reading this thinking, That can't be right.
83-year-old women don't do that.
83-year-old women tend to be quite small, fairly frail, certainly not murderous.
I can't think of any instance in my lifetime when an 83-year-old woman has done something so horrific.
You get to the end of the article in the New York Times, the last line on the BBC website, and it says, This is a person who identifies as a woman.
So the whole article was a lie.
Every word of it was a lie.
When they said that this woman killed someone in her apartment using her bare hands, they were lying to us.
And that's really important because what that reflects is that they now see the promotion of their ideological beliefs as more important than reporting the truth.
And that's the road that we have now gone down, and I think unless we push back against that, then it's going to be very difficult for any of us to stand up for truth and to stand up for our freedom to tell the truth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Brennan, we mentioned this, you call it solidarity, I think, from that clip from Montgomery County, that you've got the Hispanics, the Christian parents, the Muslims coming together to say, no, you can't indoctrinate our children into this Transgender Wokery or the Racism CRT.
We are seeing some very strange bedfellows on New Alliances.
I don't think anybody ever accused JK Rowling, who's probably the richest author in the world of being a Thatcherite conservative, but her holding the line against the absurdity and the surrealism of transgender ideology has meant that I guess you and I or I have more in common with her than I could ever imagine.
Can you explain to us her sin and this term of, what is it, TERF?
Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist.
Can you tell us that story?
Yeah, so that's what a TERF is.
But really, TERF means witch.
I mean, that's how the word is used.
It's thrown around by trans activists at any woman who dares to criticize the gender ideology or who dares to say that men are not women.
And if you have a penis, you have no business being in a women's changing room or a women's domestic violence shelter.
Perfectly reasonable arguments that the majority of ordinary people would agree with.
But any woman who makes those arguments, whether they're a radical feminist or not, is instantly denounced as a TERF, a witch, a bad person, someone who must be cancelled.
J.K.
Rowling, to her credit, her enormous credit, has stood firm on this issue.
She could have a very easy life.
She's super wealthy.
She's very famous.
She lives in a nice home.
She could have just sat back and relaxed for the rest of her life.
And I'm sure many people in her position would have been tempted to do that.
But instead, she has fought tooth and nail for the defense of reason and for the defense of women's sex-based rights and women-only spaces.
I think that's very admirable.
And I think you're right.
Lots of interesting new coalitions are emerging.
On the Brexit question, JK Rowling and I would have been on polar opposite cases.
She was very, very pro-Remain.
I was very, very pro-Brexit.
But I think what this indicates is that the clash that we're all living through now is more important than left versus right.
It's more important even than communists versus capitalists.
It's more important than those great political ideological battles of the past.
Because what's under threat now is Western civilization itself.
And the building blocks of Western civilization, such as freedom, tolerance, the valuing knowledge, the enlightenment, all of these
things are now being attacked not only by trans activists, but
by a cultural elite that has nothing but disdain for Western
history and Western values. So it's precisely the enormity of
the crisis that we face, I think, which means that all sorts of interesting coalitions can come together to fight
the good fight, even if in five or 10 years time, we go back to
bickering over Brexit, or we go back to bickering over whether
whether you want a left winger in the White House or a right winger.
Those battles are important, but this, I think, at the moment, is more important.
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
And it's so fascinating to see these new allegiances or alliances develop because We're in this peculiar situation as an amateur historian.
There's no time in our civilization where the leaders of the civilization detested the civilization.
We've always had people who bitched and moaned and said, you know, I'm guilty of whatever, I'm white, what have you.
But we didn't have a coterie Of those who hate the civilization running that civilization, which is what we have.
The Mayor Culper Brigade, if you will.
The book, you've got to get it right now.
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It is out this week.
A Heretics Manifesto, Essays on the Unsayable by the chief political editor for Spiked Online, Brendan O'Neill.
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I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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So let's play amateur MDs right now.
I don't know what your favorite... I used to like Quincy a lot.
I don't know if you're into House.
Let's do a little bit of political diagnostics, if we may.
This cut I picked up yesterday morning is allegedly from a teacher speaking at a school board meeting.
And it's a little hard to follow, but what she says at the end, I think we have to diagnose what that is.
Play cut.
Yes, I'm a teacher in the district.
I also teach in LUSD.
I have two students in the district.
I did intervention at Fremont, but I'm also a community member who volunteers extensively in Watts and South LA, and I work at the Children's Hospital Los Angeles with queer and trans youth in large groups.
And so I deal with a lot of their trauma related to the heteronormative, Judeo-Christian, patriarchal, imperialist, capitalist system that oppresses them.
I work in the L.A.
county as a teacher and with young children and patients in hospital, and I help them deal with the oppression they suffer, I'm trying to not miss any of it, from the heteronormative Judeo-Christian patriarchy of imperial colonialism.
Now, I'm sorry Brendan, but even five years ago, but definitely ten years ago, we would have said, excuse me, psych ward, can we have an attending please?
This is somebody in a position of responsibility and it's not a parody anymore.
It seems to me like this has become a cult, Brendan.
It has become a cult.
It's full of gibberish.
It's a lot of nonsense.
Very often what they mean by Judeo-Christian, heteronormative, patriarchal society is really Western civilization.
That's what they're talking about.
And the thing that worries me about what's happening in schools, I'm really worried about what's happening in schools.
The introduction of ideology, the introduction of brainwashing essentially on gender issues, on the question of race, the attempt to make white kids feel ashamed of their skin color, of their ancestors, of slavery and so on.
I think what's happening is that a lot of woke activists, they see schools as the place in which to change politics because there is a captive audience there.
You've got a group of seven-year-olds or eight-year-olds or nine-year-olds They can't walk out.
They're in front of you all day long.
Their minds are pretty impressionable.
And they see this as a way of changing society by indoctrinating the young.
It is deeply sinister.
It's also very cowardly.
If you want to change society, go out into the adult world and have an argument in the democratic sphere.
Don't manipulate children in the hope that you can turn them all into 18-year-old brain-dead idiots like you.
So something sinister is happening in schools, which is why the parental rights movements in America and the uprisings we've seen in some parts of the UK, where parents have said, no, we don't want this.
We want you to teach maths and English and history and science.
We don't want you to teach ideology, especially such twisted ideologies as the ideology of 72 genders.
Those are very positive developments and it really speaks again, I think, to the fact that populism still survives.
Populism carries on.
It takes many forms and one form it currently takes is a populist pushback against the transformation of education into a tool of work re-engineering.
It's such an obvious point, but it's not made often enough.
It's cowardly, but it's also sinister that you're doing this with children.
If you wanted to do this at the Hustings, if you wanted to go to Hyde Park Corner or stand at a podium and convince adults, go ahead.
Try and convince adults that there are 72 genders.
But doing it with an 8-year-old's mind, that's just diabolical.
Alright, one of the chapters I want to concentrate on is chapter 8 in your Your new book, the chapter entitled Viva Hate, and it has to do with one of your articles of the shallowness of anti-Trumpism.
Look, I'm biased.
I worked in the White House.
I was put through the wringer.
My wife was attacked.
My children were attacked by the mainstream media.
We are at a level, Brendan, Where people who say that they're professionals, say that they're journalists, say that they're commentators, are doing things that would have been unconscionable before.
We have people, we have the former director of the FBI giving interviews three days ago about, yes, my old boss is probably going to be in jail when come the election.
We never used to do that.
Am I being nostalgic or has something really changed?
Talk to us about your chapter.
Something has changed and I think the way in which the left or the liberal elite or both of them, the way in which they are now happy to use the tools of the deep state essentially, the tools of the security services, to try and get one over on Trump in particular and to try and delegitimize him and cast him out of the political sphere.
is so sinister, it's hard to describe.
And they will use every sneaky authoritarian measure that they can.
You know, the Manhattan indictment, every civil trial that comes their way, they'll push towards Trump.
They'll try and get him on the secret documents thing while ignoring the fact that Biden had secret documents too.
Apparently that doesn't matter.
And, of course, the role of the FBI, the role that was played by the social media oligarchs when it came to suppressing the Hunter Biden story in case it might benefit Trump, the promotion of complete myths and lies about Trump in terms of his behavior with prostitutes, for example, things that were completely made up and disseminated as fact by certain media outlets.
They are behaving like a banana republic.
That's how they are behaving in terms of their desire to knock down this particular politician and preventing him from standing in an election again.
It's so horrible.
But it's also dangerous, isn't it, Brendan?
Yeah.
It's incredibly dangerous.
And I was going to say that the left has not got a leg to stand on in the future, if the state ever uses such measures against it, if the state ever uses such measures against radicals on their side of the camp.
Because they've just given a green light to all of this.
And you're right, it is incredibly dangerous.
It gives the unelected wing of the state, the slightly mysterious wing of the state, the wing that we don't have much control over, the security services, it effectively gives them a veto over political life.
It threatens to give them an extraordinary amount of authority in terms of determining who is a legitimate politician and who isn't.
That is the road towards tyranny, I'm afraid to say.
It certainly isn't an assault on democracy.
And it is intolerable, and I think revolting against it, whether you're from the right or the left, is incredibly important.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's why we need more books like this one.
It's called The Heretics of Manifestos, Essays on the Unsayable, out this week.
Get it today from our friend Brendan O'Neill of Spiked Online.
I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First, coming to you from TheReliefFactor.com studios.
All right, I'm going to enlist your assistance.
Last couple of questions, Brandon.
Of course, it's flown by far too quickly.
There's a... I have my DMs.
I have my direct messages open on Twitter.
I've got over a million followers, so sometimes I'll establish remote relationships with fans, and one of them is a young man.
He's an autistic man.
I think he's in his 20s.
I'll just say Jack, and he invites me on Twitter spaces.
He sends me, you know, interesting stories and stuff, and he sent me this yesterday, and I want to know what you would respond to it.
He said, I need help.
My brother is telling my sister that our country was founded on white supremacy.
What do I tell my brother?
That's such a depressing image of some of the conversations that must be taking place in households across America.
I mean, I would just tell him that's not true.
And this is why, in fact, there's a chapter in my book, A Heretic's Manifesto, there's a chapter called White Shame, where I look at the way in which, particularly in the US, but also in the UK, sections of the elites and the people who are influenced by them now engage in this white self-loathing, this self-flagellation for the mortal stain of being born white.
And it's really a profound problem when you look at something like the 1619 Project, because what that was, from the New York Times and celebrated by the Democratic establishment... Pulitzer Prize winning.
Pulitzer Prize winning.
And that was an attempt to redefine America as a country born in The sin of slavery rather than being born in democracy.
It was an attempt to redefine the actual birth date of the modern American Republic so that it would no longer be 1776 with a great uprising for freedom and democracy, but it would be 1619 when slaves first arrived in part of America.
That is how sinister the attempt to rewrite history has become, and the extraordinary arrogance of this elite, unelected, unaccountable, that thinks it can decree when America came into existence, what is the most significant date, how the populace should think about the country they live in.
You know, who do they think they are that they can do something like that?
Democracy still counts for something, surely, particularly in America, particularly in Britain, two countries that fought very hard in different ways for democracy and liberty.
And I think it's absolutely essential that we stand up to those who would say that we are horrible, hateful, racist countries whose history are just one long litany of crimes.
It's not true.
Great things happened in these countries and they carry on happening.
Where do you stand?
I kind of vacillate.
I'm a little bit schizophrenic on this.
My good friend Dan Bongino had an amazing segment on his show yesterday where he said, guys, we're winning.
You see it, you know, the Muslims with the Christians, with the Hispanics standing up at the town hall meetings.
You see nine, nine billion dollars of market capitalization lost by Bud Light because they put this parody of a woman on their beer cans.
We see, you know, Target trying to sell transgender swimsuits for little boys, likewise losing billions.
So he was saying, guys, we're winning.
But then, as somebody who's in the media every day, I see the schools, the universities, Hollywood, social media, apart from Elon, and I think, my gosh, this is a Sisyphean task.
If you had to give an assessment now, how the good guys are doing, let's just say, how are the lovers of truth doing?
Are we winning?
Are we outnumbered?
What does Brendan O'Neill say?
I think we're doing okay.
That's how I would put it.
I am naturally an optimist.
I'm a pretty optimistic person.
I have been, especially since Brexit, which really transformed my understanding of democracy and freedom in a significant way.
So I like to think things are going well.
But I tend to flit from one day to the next between feeling optimistic about the culture war and then sometimes pessimistic.
Because like you, I see all those news reports about the crazy things that are happening.
But what is very positive is that in very different ways, lots of Dissenting groups and forms of resistance are rising up.
The parent rights movements in the US pushing back against indoctrination in schools.
The working class voters who are looking for someone else to vote for.
Brexit supporters.
Gender critical feminists in the UK.
We're often referred to as Turf Ireland here because we have so many women who stand up to the transgender ideology.
Yesterday I was speaking to a guy who works for Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris and he was saying that lots of French intellectuals and even French left-wingers are resisting wokeness and they think it's a scourge from America so they don't want it in their country.
So in different ways around the world people are standing up to some of these toxic ideologies and I really take heart from that.
The more we can do to push back against this and to defend those values of freedom, sovereignty and tolerance, the better.
All right, let me ask one last question on this issue.
I look, you say Brexit has buoyed you, made you feel good about it.
And I fully understand that and I can relate because I think, you know, Trump doesn't happen without Brexit.
The rise of representative government or the demands for, you know, recrudescence of representative government doesn't happen without what the Brits did.
But I also look at COVID and as somebody who chose America, a nation founded on, you know, Go west for young man, go forth, be a pioneer, be, you know, self-reliant.
And I see people willingly just shut down the companies they built, put masks on their kids.
I, you know, I saw what happened in the UK where you were, what was it?
You're allowed to go out once a day and otherwise the police could cite you.
Hasn't COVID dampened your faith in, in the people's willingness to actually stand up?
It did, actually, for a period of time.
I found it really depressing when it first started, the lockdowns that we had here starting from March 2020, which lasted for three or four months to begin with, and then we had other ones after that.
It was very depressing.
It was incredibly isolating.
It was, in some ways, it was anti-populist.
It was anti-Brexit.
So you had this great populist uprising With the people defying the so-called experts, thinking for themselves and saying, you know what, let's leave the European Union.
It was a very great, it was a wonderful act of independent thinking by the British people.
And then three or four years later, we have the arrival of COVID and we have people consenting to staying in their homes, to being under house arrest, to following the dictates of the experts, in this case, who were telling us to wear masks, don't go out, don't visit anyone, So it was depressing.
And the way in which sections of the liberal media framed it as a counter revolt against Brexit, a counter revolt against populism was very interesting.
They cynically saw lockdown as a way of weakening people's democratic resolve.
That was quite sinister, I thought.
But I think we're coming out of that now.
I think populism survived Brexit, survived lockdown rather.
We're seeing new populist emergencies in Europe, in other parts of the world.
There's that wonderful revolt in Iran, which of course, many Western liberals don't talk about because it's young men and women fighting against Islamist theocracy, fighting against mandatory hijab wearing.
There are various things happening in the world, which I think should give us a real sense of Optimism about the future and about the possibility that freedom will be defended and expanded if we keep down this road of resistance.
All right, last question.
I promise, I promise, I promise.
Peter Thiel.
I listened to Peter Thiel give a long interview with Barry Weiss yesterday.
And a guy who was really hardcore on culture war, who actually endorsed President Trump
because he said he's serious about the culture war stuff, the indoctrination.
As a gay man, I mean, shockingly.
And in this interview he said, you know what, I think the culture war thing, it's a distraction
now.
The transgender stuff, the sexualization of our children.
The problem is the economy.
The problem is, you know, all the jobs that have gone to China.
And I was kind of shocked by that.
You know, what is more important than the protection of the most vulnerable in society?
What is your response to those who say it's inflation, it's the economy, it's lack of jobs, forget about the culture war stuff, forget about the kinds of things that are in the heretics manifesto?
I couldn't disagree more and I was disappointed to hear Peter Thiel and I've heard other people say that same thing as well.
I just disagree.
Obviously, the economy is important.
There is a downturn at the moment.
There's an energy crisis.
The price of everything in the UK is going through the roof.
People are worried about making ends meet.
These are important things, but the culture war is incredibly important because what we have here is a top-down assault on the values of our society, the history of our society, And on everyday life, community life, family life, the right even to say the word mother and father, never mind to live as a family independently.
So it's an assault on the fundamentals of life, which are incredibly important to people.
Of course, people want economic security, but they want cultural security as well.
I think the other aspect of it is that the culture war is very often a class war in drag.
That's how I refer to it.
Yes, it's very often, you know, upper middle class graduates, well connected technocrats who are waging a war against the values of working class communities and against the economic life of working class communities.
They want to shut down coal mining, oil digging, fracking.
They want to enforce a Green New Deal that would seriously hurt ordinary people or the net zero ideology.
Which are currently is being revolted against by farmers in the Netherlands and truck drivers in Denmark and motorists in France.
So the culture war contains an economic assault on people's lives as well as a cultural assault.
So across the board the most important thing right now is to stand up to the regressive culture warriors and defend ordinary people's values and their lives and their right to live freely.
I am glad I persevered.
That was the money shot.
Oh my, that is why we love Brendan O'Neill.
The culture war is just a repackaging of the class war.
It's a fight against those who actually build stuff, make stuff, come home dirty, that actually labor for the rest of us.
Beautifully put.
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