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	♪♪ ♪♪
	♪♪ Target, Target, yeah they target and
	Target, Target, yeah they target kids Target, Target, yeah they target and
	Target, Target, yeah they target Yes, they target kids at Target.
	That was a song that was said to me.
	I think it's doing rather rather well in the charts.
	It's by Jimmy Levy and Forghiato Blow.
	Jeff, I have no idea what that name means.
	Perhaps it's rude.
	Let's try and get him on the show.
	That could be quite funny.
	What do you think, Jeff?
	Can we do that?
	Sure.
	All right.
	It's the targeting our kids rap song.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	I hope you had a blessed, blessed weekend.
	Let's stay on this topic of transgenderism, of ideology.
	I have in my hand, sent to me by a friend, you know who you are, a letter sent out to the whole fleet, everyone in the U.S.
	Navy.
	By somebody who you've probably never heard of, called Carlos del Toro.
	He served as a commander in the US Navy, and now he is the Secretary of the Navy.
	Yes, this is the civilian official who's in charge of what should be the greatest naval fighting force in the world.
	But instead, this is his priority.
	Memorandum.
	for distribution. Subject, Department of the Navy 2023 LGBTQIA plus Pride Month.
	The Department of the Navy joins the nation in celebrating Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender,
	Queer and Intersex Pride Month during the month of June.
	This year's widely discussed theme Now pay attention to this.
	Peace, love, and revolution.
	Again, this is the Secretary of the U.S.
	Navy.
	This is in his letter to the whole fleet.
	This is a widely discussed theme.
	Peace, love, revolution reflects the wave of societal transformation through which the LGBTQIA community first found freedom and inherent pride which they have further developed in the decades since.
	It is through their efforts that we can further realize a culture across the Department of the Navy where everyone is treated with dignity, respect, support, and equal opportunity.
	Unless you're probably a white Catholic, yeah?
	Probably, you know.
	Then just don't go to a Dodgers game, right?
	Members of the Department of the Navy's LGBTQI plus community have served from every base, ship, shipyard, and facility.
	Pride Month holds great importance to this community and their allies as it commemorates... Oh my gosh, I can't believe this.
	As it commemorates the Stonewall riots of 1969 as a foundation for LGBTQI plus individuals to discover and celebrate their inherent pride.
	I'm not going to read you the rest of it.
	It's some hagiographic, complete brown nosing to the memory of Harvey Milk, who's apparently served in the Navy.
	I mean, literally a paragraph on Harvey Milk.
	Harvey Milk.
	Last sentence and then I'll rip it apart.
	I encourage you to learn more about the cultural heritage and contributions of the LGBTQI plus community.
	It's like Monty Python.
	Where does it stop?
	LGBTQIA LMNOP!
	Hey, where's the Q?
	Where's the I?
	Where's the plus in that website URL, you bigot?
	dot navy dot mil slash browse by topic slash diversity slash LGBT dot html.
	Hey where's the Q? Where's the I? Where's the plus in that website URL? You bigot!
	Signed by Carlos del Toro.
	This letter isn't just being read by midshipmen, specialists, seals, captains, commanders.
	It's being read by our enemies in Beijing, in Tehran, in Moscow.
	I'll leave that aside.
	But let me just focus on one thing, which is the bigger issue.
	Pride Month holds great importance to our community for individuals to discover and celebrate their inherent
	pride.
	Pride isn't always a good thing.
	Pride that your child won the math prize is great unless you live in Virginia where they'll hide it from you and the schools will deep six that national scholar prize but pride in being homosexual is a sin and I'm no evangelical Bible basher nobody who's listened to my show for the last four and a half years would say that's my brand
	But let me be clear here.
	Homosexuals have always existed.
	And they will always exist.
	But it's wrong.
	It is not natural.
	That is why it is a man and a woman who procreate.
	That is the nature of nature.
	To celebrate something that is inherently not normal and a sin is wrong.
	To elevate it to the level that a secretary of one of our armed forces is inculcating the pride of the abnormal as a pillar of the fighting forces community This isn't just about equality.
	I don't want a HETEROSEXUAL PRIDE MONTH TO CELEBRATE WHERE I STICK MY PRIVATE PARTS!
	It's not necessary.
	But this is about more than representation.
	This is about indoctrination.
	Why the drag queen shows for children?
	Have you stopped to think about that?
	Why the pornographic, pedophilic children's books in our public schools?
	Why?
	Why for children?
	Why are you targeting children with your abnormal, unnatural sexual ideology?
	That's the question you need to answer.
	For one purpose, and one purpose alone.
	To normalize the abnormal, and to thus split children from their parents.
	To confuse those children, and to make them malleable, pliable, docile, and ready for capture by the rest of your ideology.
	That's all that it's about.
	We need to stop it.
	What are you doing about it?
	If you're not doing anything, if you're not even going to the local school board to protest, then you're helping the diabolical.
	And you will have to answer for that.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
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	And don't forget, this is Pride Month.
	This is the normalizing of the abnormal.
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	This one stands for Let's Get Biden to Quit.
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	Thanks for watching!
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	Welcome back to America First.
	It is that time of year where I want to enlist you to support the late Chuck Colson's amazing Prison Fellowship program that sends young children who've lost a mother or father to the prison system to a safe Christian summer camp.
	Let me just read to you what the children say about the Prison Fellowship summer camp.
	This is from them.
	This is what the children have said in their own handwriting about their time there.
	To me, the Prison Fellowship is an oasis of spiritual nourishment, writes one of the children.
	Another one, the Prison Fellowship is a friend in a friendless place.
	These children are incredibly vulnerable.
	There's over a million of them in America.
	And more than 70% of them will end up incarcerated themselves.
	Let's break that cycle with your help today.
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	God bless every single one of you.
	There was a cut from my friend Carrie Lake that I think kind of exemplifies who she is and why she's a warrior and a truth teller.
	It occurred not too long ago at the convocation here in DC, the big gathering of conservatives
	in the swamp and she said something that well got a lot of cheers. Cut 17, play
	cut.
	But time and time again with President Donald J. Trump when it seemed like the
	world was falling apart he came in and brought it back together. He had these
	guys back there attacking him left and right.
	He had the swamp going after him, and he was still getting stuff done.
	And now we have stumbling, bumbling Joe Biden.
	81 million votes.
	My ass.
	I was there in the room.
	We came from standing in ovation for the 81 million votes my ass.
	And now I wish I'd had the idea.
	Somebody's turned it into a song.
	Cut 16.
	Pissed off and already pissed off woman.
	81 million votes my ass.
	The crime was committed in broad daylight.
	We're living on planet crazy.
	Got a laptop full of China.
	Hookers and blows and crack.
	And the diaries got creepy Joe in the shower.
	81 million votes my ass.
	I want to hear her sing the chorus.
	Whose idea was it?
	Well, let's ask the lady.
	She's on deck.
	Carrie Lake, it's been a minute.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Oh my gosh.
	It's fun to be back, especially talking about this because you're right.
	It all started with that CPAC speech.
	And Ed Henry with Mailman Music, I think I got the name of that right, he reached out to me and said, you know, we would love to turn those lines into a song.
	How do you feel about that?
	And at first I said, let me let me think about it.
	Let me sleep on it.
	And I slept on it.
	And I thought, Sebastian, wouldn't it be great if this song started to play and started to sell and people were saying 81 million votes my ass?
	That's what we have to do to get our election straightened out.
	We have to all stand up and say, hey, we know this is a joke.
	This isn't real.
	Joe Biden didn't get the most votes in the history of the American presidency.
	This is a joke.
	And so I called Ed back the next day and I said, let's do it.
	But we got to make sure it's a catchy, fun song.
	And I think that they did a good job with it.
	And I think it's doing rather well, isn't it, Carrie?
	Yes, as a matter of fact, I just got info.
	It's number three on iTunes in the alternative music, which is the category that it falls into.
	But you know something funny, Seb?
	The fake news won't cover it.
	They'll cover everything.
	They'll lie about everything.
	But they're so vehemently opposed to printing the truth.
	And if they cover this song, people are going to find out the truth.
	You have to extend all intelligence and set it aside to believe the results of that election.
	They're insulting our intelligence by trying to feed us that line that Joe Biden got that many votes.
	Yeah, this is, and God bless Ed Henry, of course, it was a crazy guy like him who's behind it.
	Everybody go and buy it right now.
	Download the song.
	OK, 81 million votes, my ass.
	Get it right now.
	Let's drive it up to number one.
	Carrie, this is what I've been saying for two years now.
	It's I'm not interested In voting machines.
	I don't really even care about the footage of suitcases being pulled from under tables on CCTV of pristine ballots.
	I don't even need empirical evidence in a court of law.
	I don't need any of that.
	Here is my statement of how you know they cheated.
	It's very simple.
	You're telling me a decrepit machine politician of 47 years who campaigned from his basement got more votes than the first black president and more votes than any other president?
	That's all the proof I need!
	It's garbage, Carrie!
	It is!
	And then the fake news will say, show us the evidence!
	And it's like, how about use your own common sense?
	Yes.
	You know, he, President Trump won 17 out of 18 bellwether states.
	Biden won one.
	One, Biden won 16% of counties, and most of those counties were the filthy, corrupt ones.
	And you expect us to believe, winning one bellwether district, one bellwether county, that he actually got 81 million votes?
	This is insane.
	We have got to stop and think for a minute.
	And I'm hoping this song will get people to do that.
	All right, we need to talk about what's going to happen in 2024.
	We'll keep you over for another segment.
	But first, I know we have three and a half million people who would like to know what's up with you?
	What's the latest?
	Tell us what's happening in your state.
	Well, we're continuing to move our case forward.
	We filed a notice to appeal, and we have gotten more evidence out of the system log files from Maricopa County that is absolutely jaw-dropping.
	And so we'll be putting more information out.
	We're just going to trickle more information out.
	The people in Arizona don't believe that their elections are run fairly.
	They know there's corruption in the system, and we're going to continue to push that out in the courts.
	And we'll see what happens with that.
	I mean, people have asked me about the U.S.
	Senate seat.
	It is in the back of my mind, but in the front of my mind is our case and making sure that we restore honest elections, because I don't want 24 to be run here in Arizona like 2022 and 2020.
	We've got to get this figured out.
	So every vote, every legal vote counts.
	And every voter, whether they be Democrat, Independent or Republican, can feel good about the system and have faith in the system.
	I also have written a book that's coming out in a couple weeks, and I'm really looking forward to that.
	I think people are going to enjoy it.
	Even the people who aren't America first are going to enjoy this book.
	I threw a few punches, but rightfully deserved punches, and I think people will really get a kick out of it and enjoy it.
	Carrie Lake being combative?
	I can't believe it!
	We'll discuss that in the next segment.
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	We are back with the irrepressible, the one and only Carrie Lake.
	She has a new book that you can order right now on her website, CarrieLake.com.
	It is Unafraid, which is Yeah, pretty descriptive.
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	Just getting started.
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	Carrie, I've got to ask you, what do you think about the primary race?
	What do you think about the tensions growing between my former boss and the governor of Florida?
	He said something really reprehensible at an event recently.
	He said this, number five, let's listen to Ron DeSantis from Iowa.
	I've heard as a Republican talk about this southern border for years and years and years.
	I will finally be the president to bring this issue to a conclusion.
	We will shut the border down.
	We will build a border wall.
	We will end mass migration into this country and we will hold the Mexican drug cartels accountable for the carnage they have unleashed on the American people.
	You know about this problem.
	You're very, very clear that President Trump was very serious about it.
	He managed to get it down to a trickle, especially with Title 42.
	To be taken seriously as a conservative candidate and to say, Republicans have talked about this for years and done nothing, is that going to serve the governor of Florida well?
	I've covered Arizona as a journalist for 27 years and never in my time Was that southern border more secure than under Republican Donald J. Trump?
	Okay, so he secured the border.
	He did it while he was taking shots from the Democrats.
	Even some Republicans were going after him.
	He was having a hard time getting the money for the wall, but he persisted and kept going.
	And he got that wall, many miles of it, built in Arizona.
	Until what happened in 2020 happened, and they took him down with that shoddy, shady, botched election.
	So I know for a fact, because I saw it with my own eyes, that President Trump will get in there and make it happen.
	Now, DeSantis can sit there and talk about wanting to do something, but I'm not sure.
	Why would we take a chance with him?
	We already know Trump can do it, and Trump will do it.
	And DeSantis has a lot of these establishment rhinos who were against Trump putting up the wall on his team.
	That is a big, giant red flag to be.
	Now you can go out and vote however you want in the primary, but when President Trump wins, we're going to come around and we're going to get that wall built.
	And we're going to secure that border.
	What's happening on our Southern border is a travesty that Joe Biden and these elites in Washington have caused, and they're allowing this to happen.
	We're losing our country every single day that border's wide open.
	And I distinctly remember Ron DeSantis, throwing a bunch of illegal immigrants in a bus and further human trafficking them to Cape Cod and other locations.
	That may make for a cute photo opportunity, but you're just taking people here illegally, moving them further into our country, harder to track down.
	I say we put them back in a bus, head them back to the border and send them back across.
	And let's throw Sleepy Joe and Kamala Harris in that bus while we're at it and show them what's going on.
	Tell us a little bit about your book.
	I know President Trump wrote the foreword, Unafraid.
	What's the message of the book, Carrie?
	You know, the message is just how I got my start, how I ended up in politics, how this great movement of America First that President Trump started and actually Ronald Reagan was an America First president as well, how we are going to take those great policies that will help get our country out of this mess and And bring them to each individual state.
	And that is my plan for Arizona.
	That's why they had to stop me because they didn't want a secure border.
	They didn't want secure elections.
	And they know that I'm going to do what I say I'm going to do.
	And we're still fighting.
	We're unafraid.
	We're never going to back down.
	And we are going to save our country.
	Well, I need to get myself a copy of that book, because I want to see that special chapter where you tell the story about coming up to me at Match Lap's house at a party a couple of years ago, saying, hey, I'm Carrie Lake, and I want to be the governor.
	Yeah, that's pretty much how she did it.
	The book is Unafraid.
	Follow her.
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	CarrieLake.com slash unafraid.
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	God bless you, Carrie.
	Your call's next here.
	Or is it?
	No, it's John Solomon.
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	Title for that, the one?
	Uh, title for that... Probably a reference to her book?
	Yeah, no, hang on, we talked about what she's been doing... Grab the top cut.
	Yeah.
	You wanted something with Solomon and Trump, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Very top one.
	Can you play it for me?
	Let me get it right quick here.
	PhD.
	Bring it up.
	All right, here it is.
	Sir, I want to ask you, you're way ahead in the polls.
	There's a good chance you're going to be president again in 2025.
	What would you do to fix the FBI under Chris Wray?
	Obviously, a lot of bad things went on at the FBI.
	A lot of bad things went on at DOJ and the FBI and a lot of bad things went on a lot of places.
	You know, when I got there, it was loaded up with rhinos and with Democrats.
	It was thousands and thousands of people in every different department.
	And we get so many out, but you really have some bad things that happened.
	And this is the deep state.
	This is what they talk about all the time.
	All right.
	Oh, and we have them.
	90 seconds.
	Hey, John.
	How are you?
	Good, good, good, good.
	I don't know how I'm going to pack this in.
	I've got a couple of cuts I want to play you and then ask you a question.
	Alright, I'm going to have a new J6 video tonight.
	It's going to be pretty explosive.
	Alright, well we're definitely going to have to mention that J6 video.
	And then Comer just confirmed that the FBI has not disproven the allegation and considers it under investigation.
	Which one?
	The bribery one?
	Bribery, yeah.
	Still under investigation?
	Three years later, apparently.
	They can figure out Donald Trump's investigations in months, but it takes three years for Joe Biden.
	All right, come in with the cut from John's show.
	The Solomon Cut.
	All righty.
	35 seconds long.
	40.
	Sorry, we were thinking something, Kerry Lake, title.
	Yes, we talked about... oh... quote, 81 million votes, my ass! Exclamation, end quote.
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	Sir, I want to ask you, you're way ahead in the polls.
	There's a good chance you're going to be president again in 2025.
	What would you do to fix the FBI under Chris Wray?
	Obviously, a lot of bad things went on at the FBI.
	A lot of bad things went on at DOJ and the FBI and a lot of bad things went on a lot of places.
	You know, when I got there, it was loaded up with rhinos and with Democrats.
	It was thousands and thousands of people in every different department.
	And we got so many out.
	But you really have some bad things that happened, and this is the deep state.
	This is what they talk about all the time.
	That was my former boss reacting to the release of the Durham Report on my friend John Solomon's show, Just The News, Not Noise.
	And we have so much more to discuss with him, not just about that interview.
	John, welcome.
	Happy Monday.
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	John, we have the news breaking that Coma has made a statement about the so-called source document
	alleging a $5 million bribery scheme with Vice President Biden to change US policy.
	see.
	You told me in the break something that is stunning given it's been three years down the line.
	Tell us what you've heard about that allegation.
	Yeah, it was three years ago this month that the FBI recorded this allegation from a trusted informant, somebody who has been providing reliable information to the FBI for some time.
	The FBI today showed the document to James Comer, but would not let him keep it, and he says that is not in compliance with the subpoena.
	So on Thursday, he'll begin contempt proceedings, which could be wrapped up in a few days, and Christopher Wray will have been found in contempt of Congress.
	But during the briefing today, this is the headline.
	The President of the United States is still under investigation.
	No, not President Donald Trump.
	President Joe Biden.
	The FBI told Comer today that the allegation has not been disproven, that it's part of an active investigation.
	So the $5 million foreign bribery allegation against our sitting president is under active investigation, according to James Comer, after his briefing with the FBI.
	That is a bombshell.
	Now, some people will say, well, why does it take so long to get the investigation wrapped up?
	Nobody can answer that.
	I just talked to a couple FBI officials, like, We should never take that long to figure out a bribery claim.
	But for some reason it's still active.
	Maybe that's a guise to keep it from being released.
	Or maybe there really is an investigation that we don't know about.
	Either way, big news today up on Capitol Hill.
	Yeah, big news, but I will go for the latter theory that it's being kept active just to make sure nobody can access it.
	There's a good odds on that one.
	Yeah, yeah, I think there are pretty good odds, especially if you look at the former director of the FBI who said this at the weekend about another president, my boss, President Trump.
	This is James Comey with regards to 2024.
	Cut three, play cut.
	Can you envision a scenario where Trump manages to win back the White House and justice is delayed?
	I could.
	I don't want to, but I could.
	I mean, it's this crazy world that Donald Trump has dragged this country into, but he could be wearing an ankle bracelet while accepting the nomination at the Republican convention.
	And could be wearing an ankle bracelet and be elected in November.
	Yeah.
	It would be rejected if you put it in a script for a show, but you could have a president who is Potentially incarcerated when he's elected president, so that would be weird and awkward.
	And it seems even crazy to be coming out of my mouth, but that's the situation we face.
	John, you've written a book about corruption in DC called Fallout.
	Are you surprised that a former director of the FBI is talking about the frontrunner, let's use the British phrase, leader of the opposition, being incarcerated or wearing an ankle bracelet?
	Also, he fully and entirely Comey became a Biden homie today, right?
	Because he clearly said he would like to see Joe Biden reelected, right?
	That's something that FBI directors have always avoided doing.
	And until the 2020 election and 2016 election, CIA directors did.
	But Mike Morrell and John Brennan crossed that Rubicon in 16 and 20, as did 51 of their intelligence colleagues.
	And now you see an FBI director.
	Normally, most FBI directors realize once they served in the job, They've made a lifelong commitment to be neutral and to stay out of politics and do other things.
	And obviously James Comey has showed his true colors.
	I think we probably knew them after the way he handled the Russia collusion case in 2016.
	But now he's laid it out for the whole world to see there's no more even a ruse of him being anything but a partisan.
	You know, James Comey has a lot of fantasies.
	One of them is that Donald Trump will be in prison.
	I don't know what will happen.
	I don't think anyone knows what happened.
	I think it's highly probable that President Trump could be indicted in the next few weeks by Jack Smith.
	I think some of the people around him feel that's a real possibility.
	Well, you read my mind.
	I don't know if somebody's leaking my cut sheet to you.
	This is Comey breaking decades, decades of tradition.
	Cut to.
	I mean, Vladimir Putin does not want Joe Biden to be president of the United States for reasons that I hope the American people see, because he acts in our national interest.
	He would very much like Donald Trump to be president again, because Donald Trump is, for reasons I still can't explain, very, very fond of Vladimir Putin.
	And so they will find ways to interfere.
	I hope our intelligence community is equipped to respond maybe better than we did in 2016, but they'll come for this election.
	Just absolutely stunning.
	President Trump killed 300 Russian mercenaries in Syria.
	No nation was invaded by Russia under our watch.
	That cannot be said of the Biden administration.
	Just rank hypocrisy and propaganda.
	Let's move on.
	John, we've got about a minute left.
	There's big news coming from the likes of Julie Kelly and yourself.
	Tell us about what we can expect in the next 24 hours from JustinNews.com and John Solomon.
	Senator Ron Johnson has told us this videotape existed today.
	We can actually prove it does.
	It is video footage of the Upper West Terrace door on the Senate side of the Capitol on January 6th, where police let a few protesters out a door that has a fire alarm on it.
	That triggers the anti-lock provision.
	It's now open, and when the police draw back from the door, hundreds, at least 300, maybe a little bit more, looks about 320 People come in, rioters and protesters come in through that door, uncontested.
	It's an extraordinary security failure.
	Just think if the Secret Service left the back door of the White House open, the hell there would be to pay.
	But that's what Capitol Police did.
	People are going to see it today.
	One, it could have some impact on defendants, but here's another thing.
	The police that were fighting on the front thing lost their back flank.
	Their rear flank was taken from them by a mistake for someone not realizing pushing that door opened it up.
	Alright, just a fraction of the footage all Americans need to see, even if MTG doesn't want us to.
	Follow him right now, Jay Solomon reports, justthenews.com and justthenews.noise every night.
	John Solomon, thank you for always breaking news for us here on America First.
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	In fact, take back June.
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	So status on the Dodgers.
	I was just at a game yesterday.
	And I can feel based on the press release from the two pitchers, Clayton Kershaw and Blake Trinan.
	And my attendance yesterday.
	There are definitely a lot of Catholics in the stands wearing their rosaries and, um, I do believe these folks hopefully will not attend that June 16th game.
	Yeah, but is that enough to stop the Dodgers from being woke?
	I don't think so, Klaus.
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	We gotta take it back.
	We can't just say, oh, we're gonna quit.
	Why not?
	Why not?
	Why don't we quit for six months?
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	I'm listening to Twitter Spaces with Elon Musk and Robert Kennedy Jr.
	which has 60,000 listeners live.
	It's being hosted right now by... Oh yes, that's David Sachs who recently hosted the DeSantis launch.
	This is working a little bit more effectively than the DeSantis launch.
	Very interesting.
	I was listening as I do to...
	The other side, the bad guys, this morning.
	And they asked a question, actually it was RT, I sometimes check in with the Russian propagandists, and they said something really interesting.
	Jeff, what do you think of this?
	How is it that RFK Jr., who's never held public office ever, not been a congressman, not been a governor, is polling at the same level as DeSantis?
	That's interesting.
	Isn't that interesting?
	Especially when DeSantis is the only guy that can win as a Republican.
	I knew you'd have something like that to say.
	All right, let's get back to work here.
	We've got an amazing hour for you lined up.
	And then the manhood hour.
	Yeah, it's Monday.
	It's going to be the manhood hour.
	But let's check in with our good friends at the Job Creators Network.
	They have a new podcast they want to share with us.
	Elaine Parker, it's been a while.
	Welcome back.
	Hi, Sebastian, thanks for having me.
	All right, we're going to talk about mainstream matters, your new podcast with Alfredo Ortiz.
	But first, I was thinking as I was prepping to chat with you today, you fight for, you know, real Americans, for, you know, the 60 million Americans that work for small and medium sized businesses.
	And I got to ask, I need a sanity check from Elaine.
	I listen to clips of the mainstream media, and I listen to Democrats, and I feel like I'm in a lunatic asylum, because I'm listening to people who are just denying reality, who are denying what's happened to this nation for the last two years.
	The state of the economy, the open borders, inflation.
	Talk to me about what you're hearing and what you're seeing across America.
	Do we really have a nation where, you know, the business owners, the people who work for American companies have to suffer in one reality and then everybody else is just like, you know, plugging their ears and going la la la la la?
	Well, look, I mean, we talk to small business owners every day and listen to what they're dealing with.
	And we also do a national poll of small business owners across the country.
	So both of them line up and small business owners are very concerned about the state of the economy.
	Their number one issue that is killing them right now is inflation.
	And as far as their employees, inflation is outpacing their employees' paychecks.
	And so, you know, Americans continue to get more and more poor under this administration.
	We've had 26 straight months of historic inflation where Americans have gotten poorer.
	And we have a record credit card debt and we have auto loans that are defaulting at a record rate right now.
	So that tells you where the state of things are with Americans.
	And when we hear the White House say they've created more jobs than have ever been created by a president, why can't people, most people just see through that and say, when you shut down an economy because of a pandemic, and you close down businesses, many of which didn't survive, allowing businesses to reopen, Elaine, isn't creating jobs.
	That's right.
	Most of the jobs that have come back for the last two years under this administration are backfilled jobs.
	We lost 22 million jobs at the height of the pandemic.
	And so until we got back to sort of ground zero, neutral, the president, all of his claims of creating all these jobs, it just isn't true.
	We had to get back to To ground zero, and we're finally there, and there have been some jobs created under this administration, but not nearly as many as he tries to claim.
	And then when we hear about, we talk to real economists like our friend Stephen Moore, and you look at the trend in interest rates and inflation, the real problem here is, Elaine, that the trends that are being locked in now Those are going to take between five and ten years to counter, to ameliorate.
	So this isn't just the last two years.
	These are trends that we're going to be fighting for years and years.
	Well, look, I mean, the interest rates have, we've had multiple interest rates for the last year increases, which are hurting our small businesses.
	We're starting to see cracks in the regional banks.
	We've had three failures across the country.
	And the more the interest rates continue to be increased, the regional banks destabilize and they're the main funding source for small businesses.
	So there's a domino effect here.
	And now that we did, you know, all the headline was great on Friday and the administration and the media took a victory lap with 339,000 jobs created.
	What's that?
	What is that going to do?
	I mean, we're concerned that the Fed may use that as an excuse to do another increase in interest rates.
	That's going to hurt our small businesses again.
	That's going to hurt their access to credit, their opportunity to grow and expand their businesses.
	And hire more people.
	So, I mean, it may be farther down the road where we start to see fewer jobs created, but we are seeing cracks in the glass right now as a result of what's happening, and our small businesses are on the front lines, and they feel it first.
	Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
	All right, let's talk about some good news.
	What is Mainstream Matters?
	Why are you launching this podcast, and who is it aimed at, Elaine?
	Well, we are very excited about this opportunity.
	Salem approached us and wanted to see if we'd be interested in taking this message about small business onto podcasts and giving us a platform to talk even more about small businesses.
	And so Main Street Matters is America's small business megaphone, essentially.
	We're going to highlight all of these examples of small business owners Have them come on and talk about their successes, their failures, their passions, the grit that it takes to keep their businesses going, particularly in times like this.
	How they're surviving and overcoming all of the challenges that have been and headwinds that have come at them for the last two years.
	And we're gonna be able to highlight those stories and talk about them and continue educating people on a much bigger platform.
	So we're very excited about it.
	So is the goal, because this is exciting, is the goal to talk to those people, to get them to tell their stories about building a business and about surviving in a system where, you know, the elite is doing the opposite and they're just helping out their big, big buddies like Amazon and whatever.
	I mean, are you going to get those people onto your platform?
	We're going to have those real stories on our platform.
	As a matter of fact, our first two guests this week, our first small business owner on this week is a gentleman named Joseph Sempervivo.
	He's the founder of Joseph's Light Cookies.
	And you're thinking, cookie maker, there's a million cookies out there.
	His cookies are very interesting because he's a type one diabetic and he created the first sugar free cookie out there.
	He grew up type one diabetic, couldn't have all the sweets and treats that You know, other kids can have.
	And so what did he do?
	He used his entrepreneurial mind and created a niche product.
	And he expanded that product into other foods like peanut butter and syrup and other things like that.
	And it was specifically geared toward the sugar-free market.
	And so... Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	If people have a really good story they want to tell, can they go to your website?
	Absolutely.
	You can go to jobcreatorsnetwork.com.
	We want to highlight those kinds of stories.
	We're also going to have thought leaders on.
	We're also interviewing Brad Anderson this week, and he's the former vice chairman and CEO of Best Buy.
	And he's also, full disclosure, is on our board of directors.
	But he was with Best Buy in the very early days, before it was even called Best Buy.
	And he started out as just a salesperson, you know, with just a few, there was just a few stores.
	It was a small chain of music stores.
	And, you know, somebody had a vision to grow this into what Best Buy is today.
	And he, so he made his way up from salesperson to CEO and saw Best Buy through all that growth.
	So he has such a great perspective to bring to the conversation.
	So we're very excited to have him on as well.
	That's fabulous.
	Humans love stories and what better way to tell the American story than through the perseverance of those who've actually built something.
	We've been talking to Chief Communications Officer for the Job Creators Network, the co-host of the new podcast, Main Street Matters.
	Yes, it does.
	Follow her at Elaine underscore Parker and share your story.
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	Check out their amazing site.
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	It doesn't mean you're in agreement.
	It means you're just trying to solve solutions.
	You've come up with solutions.
	But we see that at home more and more with the media.
	And as you pointed out earlier, I think things get into Alright, I've sent you two images.
	Two, alright.
	topics so I find it really refreshing to listen to you, listen to the transparency that you have when speaking
	about all the...
	Alright, I've sent you two images.
	Two, alright. Want the mics on?
	Yeah, mics can be on.
	Mics are on.
	...and it's really refreshing in this political environment.
	Um, and I feel like at times...
	Three minutes.
	...they've attempted to reduce you to the most talking points in the media, and I love hearing you talk about all
	these other things...
	You want that segment on Vimeo?
	Vimeo or Rumble?
	Yeah.
	Vimeo.
	All righty.
	We're going to start seeing medical things, but as you get into all these other topics,
	we're going to start finding those.
	I just wonder how you'll change that narrative for people who can hear your message and continue to get that out.
	There's so many challenging things, but also the way you talk about it is really inspiring.
	Thank you so much, Kelly.
	And to encourage during the pandemic, you were really one of the few people at a time
	when activities were being pulled all over the world.
	You were one of the few people.
	Who's Kelly Slatter?
	That doesn't sound familiar to me.
	Angel tree.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	I'll use the audio today.
	Got it.
	I sent you a thing from the Federalist.
	They said more suspected terrorist came across the border in April than Trump's entire four years.
	Oh my gosh.
	She's Skype, right?
	No, phone.
	No, she's phone.
	Oh, why?
	She couldn't do Skype.
	She can't do Skype?
	Not today.
	Not today.
	She's on if you want to talk to her.
	Yeah.
	90.
	Sorry, I just got back from a hair appointment.
	It's always your bloody hair.
	You must be the vainest guest we have.
	No way in hell.
	No, there's no other woman.
	No other woman who said, I can't come on.
	No, no, we had one person.
	Who was that?
	No, I'm not.
	You're just vain.
	You're just vain.
	Fess up.
	You're not being truthful.
	Fess up.
	Oh, I just got back from the gym.
	No, I just got my hair bleach touched up.
	Okay.
	That's the truth.
	Jeff.
	How many people have complained about their hair on our show?
	I think I agree with Julie here.
	I think the other ones are lying.
	Oh, she said I was lying!
	No, I think she was saying the other people are lying.
	They're not going to say they just got their hair done.
	That's right.
	I'm just being totally upfront.
	Thank you, Jeff.
	Yeah, we know what side his bread is buttered on.
	We're from the same hometown, we're always gonna stick together.
	That is true.
	Yeah, it's bloody tribal.
	20 seconds.
	Not counting anything.
	No.
	So, Knee deep in the swamp.
	You can tell me.
	When does the view air?
	When is it on?
	I know you're a big fan, Jeff.
	You can tell me, when does the view air?
	When is it on?
	I know you love watching it.
	All I know is it's gotta be early morning or noon because at one o'clock is when the clips start coming out.
	That's my favorite part.
	All right, I just sent you something.
	Apparently chaos erupted on The View today as they had to call in the crew, the production crew, to shut down and silence Scott, what's his name?
	Tim Scott, the guy who just announced.
	So Jeff, get busy right now while we talk to our very difficult guest.
	I need that clip.
	If that's true, I need that confirmed and I need that clip.
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	They're interviewing Asa Hutchinson again on Fox.
	What on earth are they doing?
	And what on earth...
	Is Marjorie Taylor Greene doing?
	I've put a poll up on our website.
	I want you to sound off.
	She has done a 180.
	She doesn't want to release the January 6 footage for security reasons.
	I thought she was MAGA.
	I thought she wanted ju- I haven't finished.
	When I read it, you can take it off the screen.
	I thought she wanted justice for January 6.
	Well, here's my question to you.
	Do you still trust Marjorie Taylor Greene after her reversal on the January 6 footage?
	Go right now, SebGorka.com, and tell me.
	That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A, SebGorka.com, and the Do You Still Trust MTG, Marjorie Taylor Greene, after her reversal on the January 6th footage.
	Let's talk to somebody who's never, never sold us short, has always fought for the truth, even if she refuses to come on camera.
	I don't know why, she must be in a skiff.
	Welcome back from AmericanGreatness.com, Julie Kelly.
	Okay, so in my own defense, I am often on video on this show.
	But for some reason, you guys, you know, Jeff texts me, it seems like almost every time I have a root touch-up for my hair and keeping up- What is a root touch-up?
	I'm not familiar with a root touch-up.
	Is that how they speak in Chicago?
	It's where you turn your dark roots blonde.
	And it is highly time-intensive.
	And it's a top priority of mine, and- THIS SHOW SHOULD BE A TOP PRIORITY OF YOURS, NOT YOUR RITZ!
	You guys just need to schedule better.
	Stop pitting my four-week touch-up.
	I'll give you my whole schedule, and we can work around it.
	I'll have my people talk to your people.
	We'll make sure that your roots are sparkling and white and dazzling when you come on this show with a camera.
	We just feel sorry for all our viewers who don't get to see the lovely Julie Kelly.
	Follow her right now, Julie underscore Kelly 2 on Twitter, Julie underscore Kelly 2.
	And at American Greatness, it's all the more galling Calling!
	I say that you are not with us visually because of the breaking news that... Is it true that you are now going to be a purveyor of some visual evidence concerning Johnny the Sixth, Julie?
	Yes.
	So, and I do want to address the MTG issue.
	Hang on.
	Let's start there.
	Let's start there.
	This is like a gut punch.
	I mean, you know, she blew up my phone when I told her it wasn't right what she was doing during the votes for Kevin McCarthy.
	And I don't think we've been friends ever since.
	But give us your take.
	So I want to say up front, no one has fought harder on behalf of the January 6th defendants in Congress and called out this abusive political persecution more than Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	That's just a fact.
	She is the one who introduced a resolution to impeach D.C.
	U.S.
	Attorney Matthew Grapes, which is something that should be supported by every Republican in the House.
	And look, Seb, no one has called for the public release of the January 6th tapes more than I have.
	My first article on this was May of 2021.
	But I will tell you after being one of three reporters given access by Speaker McCarthy to this system, this archived system, I can tell you one of two things.
	One, it's highly complicated and complex.
	You're talking about hundreds of cameras over a three over a three day period.
	I had to be instructed a few times how to access one certain camera at one certain time frame.
	So it's a lot harder than certainly people like me expected it to be, and I'm guessing Speaker McCarthy, MTG, and other House members, there's only three terminals where you can access this archived footage.
	So I think it was a matter of including myself, biting off more than you could chew.
	Hang on, this is important.
	So we were under the impression That this footage has been duplicated and, for example, 40,000 hours worth was given to Tucker Carlson.
	Is that incorrect?
	Is it that people have to go to a terminal to access it?
	You have to go to D.C., you have to go to a house office building where this is archived and capped on three separate terminals, which is what Tucker's team did as well.
	They had to go there.
	I mean, look, this this footage remains under strict court protective orders, which is wrong.
	I mean, we've I've been fighting this, as I said, since May of twenty twenty one.
	It's been kept under wraps by Capitol Police, DOJ and Democrats in Congress.
	So once McCarthy and Republicans actually can get their arms around this system, how complicated it is, it's not like you can upload this on the Internet and people can just start digging around.
	So I totally get the outrage over it.
	And I'm just saying from my own experience, had I not seen it, I would be critical now of what looks like a reversal.
	I think it's just coming to terms with the deep complexity of how you would put hundreds of cameras, different vantage points inside and outside the building over a two or three day period on the internet where people can get a hold of it.
	Well, let's listen to what she said.
	Let's listen to the actual words of Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	This is Cut 14.
	Play Cut.
	This is our real concern with the videotapes.
	If we release these videotapes just widely for the public, number one, we put the security of the Capitol at risk because there's over 1,700 video cameras.
	My problem with this is that she shouldn't be making that argument.
	As the face of, you know, caring for the January 6th, wanting to get these prosecutors impeached, let Kevin McCarthy, let an official be the face of this statement who's responsible For the security of the house, not Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	It just looks bad and it also stinks.
	We're talking to Julie Kelly, American Greatness, amgreatness.com.
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	SebastianGorka.substack.com You have to go to three distinct terminals in DC, that's
	nuts.
	Nuts!
	Well, I do, though, hope that they figure out a way to upload this on some sort of... Well, they have to!
	You can't... I agree.
	It's ridiculous.
	You can't have three terminals for 40,000 hours.
	It's absurd.
	Well, and look, Seb, the 40,000 hours, no one needs to see more than really 4,000.
	No, it's all duplicative.
	I understand.
	Yeah, it is.
	I mean, you've got different camels, but you've also got security footage from House Office buildings, from areas that had nothing to do with the events of January 6th or even the day before.
	So, I do feel strongly, even though Speaker McCarthy's office has given me access to this, that they eventually do have to come through with their promise to make relevant portions available to the public, protect whatever, you know, security concerns that there are, but also... But we shouldn't be having this discussion now.
	He became Speaker, you know, three months ago.
	We shouldn't have to wait for MTG yesterday to say this.
	Well, like I said, I think it was, you know, once they saw how the CCTV footage was archived, that it became a far more daunting task than people like me or they had intimated to the public.
	So they probably maybe should have come out right out of the box and said, hey, look, we have this.
	You know, they gave it to Tucker's team.
	I also supported that because I think that You know, surgical strikes with this edge is far more effective than flooding the zone with thousands of clips.
	But people could get wrong.
	And I do know the other aspect of this is protecting innocent people who could be destroyed.
	You have these groups called sedition hunters online who are plastering social media with the faces of people who are on Capitol grounds who haven't been charged.
	And asking people to snitch on them, and demanding that the FBI arrest them.
	This is legit.
	Look, I'm a target of the sedition hunters, so I know how vicious these people are.
	And they are tied to the government.
	So, it's no joke when she says that there are real concerns about protecting innocent Americans, even if they're not charged.
	These lowlifes will use any tool that they can to smear them.
	Very dangerous.
	Yeah.
	Alright, let's talk about Jack Smith next.
	Unless, is there something important you're working on I should bring up?
	Um, I'm gonna have an interesting article about Ray Upps up tonight.
	Oh, good!
	Okay.
	But the Jack Smith stuff is bigger, I think.
	Okay, alright, we'll mention both.
	We've got time.
	Alright, that, the view cut's really nothing.
	It's overblown.
	Okay, okay.
	Like, very overblown.
	But did they call in staff?
	Not really.
	They basically went to break.
	Come in with cut seven.
	No liner.
	Ah, yes.
	All right.
	Okay.
	You And I'll see you next time.
	By the way, Hakeem Jeffries, who's now Majority Leader.
	Hakeem Jeffries had to come to the floor, waited strategically.
	And Hakeem Jeffries, you think Biden played this smart?
	He's the man.
	Kevin McCarthy's his bitch.
	Ooh!
	Steve!
	Harsh!
	Harsh!
	Is it fair?
	You know, I'm going to disagree with Steve on that cut for one reason.
	Hakeem Jeffries is not very smart.
	Hakeem Jeffries didn't negotiate the debt ceiling bill.
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	She of January 6th fame.
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	against the political right.
	Julie, you've got a piece coming out on Ray Epps.
	We'll discuss that in a second.
	But first things first, make the argument.
	Explain to our millions of listeners from California to Texas to DC Why the recent cases, the Proud Boys and especially the Oath Keepers, why that opens up massive legal vulnerabilities for President Trump based upon what we know about Jack Smith and the closing arguments in those cases?
	Yes, so Special Counsel Jack Smith, appointed by Merrick Garland in November to give the mirage that this is an independent investigation into Trump for two things, January 6th and the handling of classified documents.
	The reason why the seditious conspiracy convictions of four members of the Proud Boys last month,
	excuse me, in April was so pivotal and really ratcheted up the legal jeopardy for Trump
	is because the government made Donald Trump a figure in that trial.
	As I've reported in closing arguments, Assistant US Attorney Connor Mulrow,
	the first clip that he played for the jury at the end of April,
	was not of the Proud Boys committing sedition.
	It was of Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential debate, where he specifically says,
	Proud Boys, stand back and stand by.
	Now, that was after Joe Biden twice told him to condemn the Proud Boys specifically.
	Some said later he didn't know who they were.
	But it was very clear that DOJ made that connection.
	And that's why after those convictions and the Proud Boys case, I feel quite certain that Jack Smith is pursuing seditious conspiracy charges, among other counts, obstruction, conspiracy to obstruct, probably tampering with witnesses.
	But that will really ratchet up the legal stakes for Donald Trump and any trial that he has to face in Washington, D.C.
	So the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers prosecutions, were set up in a way to feed a narrative that Jack Smith, this Democrat special counsel, can use against the President.
	That's right.
	And I think this is an important distinction to what you just said.
	So it's to build the public case that, hey, look, that, you know, Trump said, stand back and stand by to the Proud Boys.
	And then Enrique Terrio said, hey, guys, he's specifically calling us out.
	We need to be there on January 6th.
	So that's been the media angle of it.
	But also legally, you know, it gives Jack Smith some more credibility in terms of going to his grand jury.
	in Washington, D.C.
	and asking for this indictment as well.
	So it was really a boon, an easy boon, by the way, to get seditious conspiracy convictions.
	You already have Let's see, six members of the Oath Keepers convicted of seditious conspiracy, four of the Proud Boys, an extremely rare charge.
	I believe they're the first Americans ever to have been convicted.
	Julie, we've got 30 seconds left.
	Give us a little tease.
	What is your article coming out later today on Ray Epps going to talk about?
	I'll have a piece up tonight about the man whose ear Ray Epps whispered in at that first breach point.
	He now is sort of contradicting what he originally said.
	That man is Ryan Samsel.
	I talked to him last week, and I will divulge what he told me that Epps actually said to him at that point.
	That's why she's the one and only.
	That's why we allow her.
	So can I get my hair done for God's sake?
	That's why we allow her to hide behind a photograph and go to the hairdressers right now.
	Julie underscore Kelly too.
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	In fact, I'm going to take it today, so they're nice and fresh.
	If you come on Skype, we don't need a new headshot.
	Hey Jeff, remember when you were on my side when this conversation began?
	I'm just playing it both sides.
	Yeah, yeah, he knows who he works for.
	He knows who he works for.
	I see.
	He got a little thrashing in the break.
	Okay, fine.
	Turn on me.
	All right, talk to you soon.
	And text me the article tonight, all right?
	I definitely will.
	Thanks, guys.
	Okay, thanks, buddy.
	Okay, bye-bye.
	It also helps that she said before she loves that particular picture we used, the black and white one.
	Of course, it's a great picture.
	We used that with a guest host when she was on my phone and she said, it makes me look like I'm in like a film noir or something like that.
	Alright, I sent you a load of photographs.
	Uh-huh.
	PhD?
	Yes, I have one.
	Thank you.
	I've still got those two you sent earlier, those grainy photos.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'm going to use them all.
	Oh yes.
	All right, what cut's doing, I'm gonna play Bill Burr.
	We have to play, right, Jeff?
	What else?
	Blackrock?
	Yeah, the Blackrock's big, too.
	That one's making the rounds, yeah.
	Blackrock and Burr.
	And did we play Newt yet?
	No!
	Oh my gosh, Newt.
	Alright, I'll play a newt here.
	Um, yeah, come in with ten, and then I'll do the photographs.
	Alright, come in with ten, I'm working on those photos still.
	You want to do a particular order here, or just I play?
	It'll be obvious when I tell you.
	Alright.
	Actually, um, just... You can do them in the order you get them, and then I'll describe each one.
	Okay.
	Bake it for 10-12 minutes Let it cool
	是 Bake it for 10-12 minutes
	Let it cool for 10-12 minutes
	Well, I think it's probably almost impossible under current law to ensure an accurate election.
	And I think the only Republican strategy in the long run is to pick issues and win by margins so big that they can't steal them.
	If you have a very close election, Democrats have a passion for stealing them.
	uh... and you look at the way they've used bundling uh... as robert just point out
	when you have the local union which takes care of people in a nursing home
	going in to vote the people who literally don't cognitively know what
	they're doing you know that that union is going to vote every single one
	of them for a democrat no matter what their personal beliefs were
	uh... and so i think these are things you gotta be honest about
	and we have we're gradually in the republican states
	beginning to tighten up the election law but in states dominated by democrats like new york
	illinois uh... california
	you just have to assume that the machine will steal as much as it can
	Yeah.
	Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House, with wise words as usual, saying, quote, the Democrats have a passion for cheating.
	Yeah, the Democrats have a passion for cheating.
	So what has to happen?
	We have to out-vote.
	We have to out-mobilize our voters so they can't cheat enough to beat us.
	You've got to get Newt back on the show.
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	My wife had been several times but if you haven't been to the Holocaust Museum, it's the national, the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, you need to go.
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	Yeah, could you imagine being a Jew in Poland being forced to make uniforms for the SS?
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	My gosh, almost at the end of the war.
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	Moshe Rafilovich was 30 years old.
	I want to share with you some of the things that they show you in the museum.
	Eric, you can just go through the photographs.
	Here is a park bench from Austria 1938.
	This is even before the war started.
	This is around the time of the Austrian Anschluss when Austria was annexed into the Third Reich.
	And the bench says Nur for Juden.
	It's marked only for Jews.
	The woman is hiding her face in the photograph and then there's a second photograph Nur for Aryan.
	Only for Aryan.
	It's like segregation in America but not based upon black or white.
	This is between Aryan races, white races and Jews.
	Ask yourself if that level of segregation is just a factor of the past.
	We're having race-segregated graduations in America.
	Yeah, the left is doing that right now.
	A picture of Dwight Eisenhower, the head of Supreme Allied Forces Command, at one of the death camps, walking past the bodies, is a historic photograph.
	And this happened in the span of a current lifetime.
	A map of all the labor camps in Germany, absolutely festooned, dotted with labor camps and death camps.
	It wasn't just Auschwitz or Birkenau.
	And then a photograph of the thousands of people at attention in one of the labor camps with their heads shorn.
	This is in living history.
	And then the house in the Berlin suburb of Wannsee, where the infamous meeting occurred, where the final solution was engineered to exterminate all the nine million Jews in Europe, only three million of whom survived, and many whom settled in and managed to recreate the state of Israel after the war.
	We need to remember man's propensity to dehumanize his fellow man.
	It happened in Hitler's Germany and it happens in every community where one portion thinks that their ideas are the only ideas and if you disagree with them You must be dehumanized.
	You must be called deplorable.
	You must be called ultra-MAGA.
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	It is up to every single one of us to tell the truth and to never, ever surrender.
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	We'll be back with Catherine Brodsky one-on-one here on America First after these messages.
	Stay with us for more one-on-one with me, Sebastian Gawker, and Catherine Brodsky after this break.
	Welcome back to America First one-on-one.
	The guest is Catherine Brodsky.
	The topic is artificial intelligence.
	Welcome back to America First one-on-one with our special guest Katherine Brodsky.
	You're listening to America First one-on-one with Katherine Brodsky and me, Sebastian Gorka.
	Why is MTG?
	Because it's a good show.
	You're listening to America First one-on-one with Katherine Brodsky and me, Sebastian Gorka.
	Thank you for watching.
	You think a businessman like Trump has a chance to be president?
	Do you think he has any shot at all?
	Do you think this is real?
	Um...
	No, just because no one would work with them.
	Like, Republicans and Democrats would be babies and they would pout because they're like bought and owned.
	And it's like, how come this guy's free and gets to say whatever he wants?
	I mean, I don't know.
	I've enjoyed the hell out of them.
	Just all the stuff the guy's been saying.
	I just, I hope more politicians are just, at least just say what they're thinking.
	That's a comedian Bill Burr seven years ago, a prophetic.
	Nobody'd work with him.
	Why?
	Because they're swamp creatures!
	They're not patriots like President Trump.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Tim, Texas, line two.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	Thanks for taking my call.
	I listened to what your clip that you just played from Mr. Kingrich.
	And basically, he's saying, we've got to work harder, mobilize more.
	There is a voice, there's a voice in the wilderness about this, that's on our side, a gentleman named Jay Valentine, who runs a website.
	May I say the name of the site?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	It's called Omega for America.
	Jay Valentine is an IT superstar, and you can see all that he's done on his site.
	But his message is that it doesn't matter how much the conservatives mobilize, the Democrat corruption and perversion of voting rolls can make up the difference through manipulation of voter rolls.
	Not true.
	Didn't work in Virginia.
	That's incorrect, but I will check it out.
	Omega for America, is that the name?
	Yes, John Valentine.
	Okay, I'll check it out.
	I'll check it out.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Let's go to Brent, Los Angeles!
	Great defender of God's children, Gorka!
	Oh, thank you kindly, sir.
	What brings you to our show?
	We've got 90 seconds before the manhood hour.
	Okay, roger that.
	Democrat transgenderism is in no way an ideology.
	It is a Marxist-Auschwitz-like atrocity.
	And this Trans Month is a major Marxist military campaign in an unconventional global war dressed in drag.
	But unlike conventional warfare, the first victims targeted in this psyops war by trans-democrat warriors are our children.
	And trans-democrats like Joe Biden, General Milley, and Admiral Levin are all loudly and proudly promoting pedophilia and trans-sodomy by marching manipulated mothers and fathers straight into hell.
	This is their democracy of death and dictatorship, which the devil adores.
	Yeah, it is truly diabolic.
	The next piece on my subsplack after the debt ceiling one will be exactly about this topic.
	I was just thinking, given the Holocaust reference, you know, Mengele experimented on children.
	Anybody who does that should be hung very slowly by the neck until they die.
	It's being celebrated here.
	It's being celebrated.
	By the left, that's how evil they've become.
	Thank you, Brent.
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	The manhood hour.
	You know me.
	I think it oozes out of my pores that I love radio.
	I love listening to radio.
	I have since I was a kid.
	And to be on the other side, to be on the microphone...
	If anyone ever told me I would have said you're crazy.
	It's a dream come true.
	But sometimes I have to leave the studio.
	It's true.
	Sometimes I have to go on vacation or travel for Salem to meet you at station events.
	And then up comes this thorny issue of...
	Guest hosts?
	Who can sit in the chair at America First?
	Well, one man who's very popular with you and with my staff as well, I don't know if he's paying them under the table in cash, is a former congressman, he's a good friend, a Salem colleague, Doug Collins!
	Welcome to the Manhood Hour!
	Hi, I'm glad to be back, Seth.
	Hope all is well with you.
	So what are you paying off my guys to say they like you?
	I need to know.
	Well, you know, being in the intelligence community, you have to understand I can tell you, but then that'd be the last thing I could tell you.
	So, you know.
	Sources and methods.
	That's exactly right.
	The human intent, the human intent there.
	We gotta, we gotta keep it up.
	Protect your sources.
	Okay.
	Good stuff.
	All right.
	Well, you do a superb job.
	You've got your own show, your own podcast as well.
	Um, everybody needs to follow you, uh, wherever you are on social media and on the podcast platforms.
	Um, but for those who've missed you, uh, haven't Subscribed yet to the Doug Collins podcast.
	Let's start with a little bit of a story of all the incredible things you've done before you started talking for a living on radio.
	It is amazing for both of us.
	We actually had lies before we did this.
	Pretty good.
	But for me, it's pretty simple.
	I'm married to a wonderful lady, Nixon.
	In a couple of weeks, it'll be 35 years.
	We have three kids growing up.
	I have been in sales.
	I've been a pastor.
	I've been a chaplain and still a chaplain, United States Air Force Colonel for 21 years.
	I'm a lawyer.
	Uh, and also have, you know, been in a state legislator and a member of Congress.
	So, uh, a little bit of broad spectrum and, uh, you know, but, but still go back to the roots of North Georgia when my dad was a Georgia state trooper.
	Um, Lisa and I came up from, you know, we just, we started out with love for each other and grew a family into where we have now.
	So for me, it's just been a long journey, which I believe God had sort of intended.
	I think God rarely puts anybody on straight paths.
	I think that I think our lives are more like old mountain roads, where it's a lot of turns and twists and, And how you adapt and how you overcome is really part of the journey.
	Yeah, as the Hungarian saying goes, man plans, God executes.
	So you can plan all you like, but the big man, he's got the real plan.
	He's got the classified one that's in the skiff, and that's the one that's going to be implemented.
	More than three decades with your lovely wife, incredible.
	How many years in the military, Doug, and how many years on Capitol Hill?
	I was on Capitol Hill for eight years.
	I rose to ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee.
	In fact, I was the one that you saw fighting with Jerry Nadler during the sham impeachment over the Ukrainian call.
	And we did a lot of things up there while I was there.
	But also, I've been in the military for going on, when you count Navy time and Air Force, about 24 years now.
	Wow, wow, that is incredible.
	All right, Doug, before we get to the big questions, we ask our special guests five big questions.
	Given your experience, I have to ask, what we've witnessed in the last week with these nail-biting negotiations for the debt ceiling, At one point, I think it was Thursday morning, I just said it.
	As a taxpayer, as a person who chose this country, I said, I've had it.
	I don't care how much you polish this turd, adding $4 trillion to $31 trillion doesn't smell like a good deal to me.
	Is this par for the course?
	Do we just have to swallow this?
	Is this how Congress works, the best we can get?
	Are these kind of non-deal deals, Doug?
	Yeah, I'm gonna give you two answers, Seb.
	The first one is yes, and the second one is it doesn't have to be.
	Yeah.
	And this is really where, I've struggled with this in Congress for eight years, and I worked with a former senator down here from Georgia, David Perdue, and others on trying to work this appropriations process.
	I never was on that committee, because one, they would have not liked me on that committee.
	But the problem we've got now is, I made a tweet, I think I sent it out there or so ago, it said this, until we actually realize that a year-to-year budget has to come in as a surplus instead of a deficit, then we're not ever going to get to the debt.
	And I think this is the part that concerns me about some of these numbers thrown around like, oh, we say this is the largest largest cut in history.
	Well, was it a cut over projected growth or was it a cut to real numbers?
	And, you know, when you freeze something at the 23 level or wherever they froze, I think it's 23 level.
	If you freeze spending at the 23 level and you use the same number the next year, you've not cut.
	Yeah.
	That's not a cut.
	Yeah.
	I don't care if you had planned on going up 5%.
	That was an increase.
	If you just kept it, you're keeping it even.
	So for us as taxpayers, and for me while I was there, the most frustrating thing is to really understand that you're never going to solve this until you deal with the drivers.
	And here's the big part that's become very political.
	We only 16%, 16 pennies, if you want to break it down into a dollar.
	16 pennies is basically all that Congress's votes on when they do appropriations bills.
	Think about that.
	Explain that.
	So that's, out of every dollar spent, the only choice, the only wiggle room is 16 cents, correct?
	Exactly.
	Real quick, I'll tell you.
	Take a dollar bill.
	And if you took a dollar bill and I said, this is your entire budget, I said, Okay.
	Now you want to fund defense.
	Okay.
	Well, and we got to fund all the, every program, you know, of in the, in the federal government.
	Well, before you even start that, you've got to understand 84 to 85 cents goes to social security, Medicare, Medicaid, debts, payments, and some retirement stuff.
	So 85 cents is taken off the table before you ever start.
	Wow.
	So everybody agrees, although most people don't realize it, that defense is supposed to be fun.
	It's part of the Constitution to protect and defend.
	But it is discretionary, meaning Congress can change it year to year.
	And then you've got the other half of discretionary, which is everything you can think about the government.
	Every program, every Congress, every legislator.
	So here's the real deal.
	When you get down to fighting for those pennies and we make it seem like, oh, this is going to shut down the government.
	Well, yes, to a point you're very right, but to the bigger point, you're dealing in the pennies when the real elephant, so to speak, the bear, is sitting in the next room.
	And this idea that every year we spend more than we have, to prevent that, how do we do that?
	Could we have a constitutional amendment?
	How do we put that barrier in place so it's not both parties acting like drunken sailors on Friday with a paycheck?
	Yeah, you could.
	I mean, the Constitutional Budget Amendment is something that a lot of states use.
	I think it could be used if it was phased in.
	Again, we're not at a... This is about like, and I know from your military background and everything else, it's about like taking somebody off the street and making them a seal.
	It's not going to happen overnight.
	In fact, the first thing you do is get up off the sofa, quit eating the ice cream, and start walking occasionally.
	The federal government is in that position right now.
	So could you have that parameter built in?
	Yes.
	And then start that way.
	The problem is, is so few of the budget, I mean the budget proposals that have been out there for the last 15 years that I voted on and many others voted on, can they cut real spending over time?
	Yes.
	But also then they have to understand the price of that.
	And this is one of the things from this past week, Seb, that I thought was really interesting.
	Everybody kept saying, oh, you know, if I won't take the deal or I will take the deal,
	however you said it, because we've got this debt ceiling.
	The only way to avoid June 5th, the arbitrary date that Yellen said, but the only way to
	avoid that is just like on your own credit card.
	You either raise the credit limit and then keep spending, or you spend it down with what
	you currently have, and that comes from other pots of money.
	There's no other way to avoid that debt limit because you've already spent the money.
	But this idea, you said it, I think you used the word arbitrary, this announcement from
	Yellen that if we don't do it by the 31st, the sky's going to fall on us, that was just
	like negotiating tactics, wasn't it?
	Well, it was, but what really...
	What really made it, for those of us who believe that there has to be some shred of integrity left in a department anywhere in Washington, D.C., you would say June 1st.
	When she said June 1st, okay, whether we could fudge the numbers or not, okay, I agree with it.
	But then all of a sudden, when it became clear that the House had a deal, all of a sudden, oh, now it's June 5th.
	Oh, horse manure.
	Okay, you know, come on.
	You can't tell me that this is so bad June 1st that you can now extend it to June 5th when you could have probably said June 5th to start with.
	Again, that's when people lose faith in the system.
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	Is manhood, is masculinity under assault?
	If so, how bad is the situation?
	I think it is bad, and I think it goes back to that each, you know, the males have been No, it goes back to what we talked about earlier in our part of the show.
	God made us all individuals.
	And males have a unique role in society.
	And to diminish that role is to take away the very founding and building blocks that we've seen in this country for what men do and what men should do.
	And also going back to what you just talked about with prison fellowship.
	I've been involved with prison fellowship for a long time.
	How many times are those children and the folks who are actually in prison Have you heard the story, Seb?
	I lacked a father figure.
	I lacked a male role model in my life.
	And that doesn't take away from the beautiful moms and single moms who have tried their best to raise children.
	But there is something, I think, God-given uniquely about that male presence.
	Yeah.
	Now you have a unique perspective.
	Well, oh my gosh, it's like four different vectors.
	Not only do you, you know, shepherd souls as a pastor, you've seen the military from the inside, which is built upon concepts of masculinity and service.
	You've served on Capitol Hill, so you've seen the importance of leadership, although there isn't much of it going on right now.
	And then lastly, you have this new role where you're interfacing with Millions of Americans because you have this show you have the Doug Collins show so with all of these different experiences and terrains that you've mapped
	What do you think, to use a military term, is the center of gravity of this assault?
	Because we know they own the culture.
	Apart from talk radio, thank the good Lord, conservatives control talk radio.
	But if you look at social media, Hollywood, the legacy media, the high schools, the colleges, the culture has been taken over by those who deny truth, who want to attack masculinity and classic concepts of our civilization.
	Amongst all of those sources, what do you think is the driver?
	Where is the epicenter of this ideological assault?
	Is it Hollywood?
	Is it social media?
	Is it NGOs?
	What have you seen in your pastoral care?
	I won't say yes.
	It's all.
	And here, let me take it a step further.
	I think what we're actually seeing here is old as time.
	It's just a tale as old as time.
	It is man believing that they are God.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And it goes back to, from a Christian perspective, you take the Garden of Eden.
	It goes back to the fact that you can be like God.
	And then there's a scripture later on, and I'll just use this to understand.
	It said they did what was right in their own eyes.
	Okay.
	When you do what is right in your own eyes, then there is no, so if you choose an alternative lifestyle, as you choose a, you know, pride month that we're in, if you choose something, okay, from a libertarian perspective, go at it.
	But when you try to then force that To be accepted by others who don't believe that, don't think that is right.
	Then you're taking a step over to saying, look, I do not want to be judged, questioned, or thought about of my convictions of what I'm doing.
	So I'm going to try and make everything right.
	What we've seen for the last 40 or 50 years in this country is a slow progression of a moral system.
	We're not shocked anymore, Seb.
	Think about this.
	How many movies that you watch today could never have been filmed in the 70s and 80s?
	No.
	Utterly.
	They're just not.
	TV shows, things like this.
	And what is it?
	It's slowly progressing away.
	But it's not just things that are shocking.
	It's also shame.
	There's no concept of shame anymore, Doug.
	No, there's not.
	We've gotten into this excuse society.
	I couldn't do it.
	They made me do it.
	They forced me into this.
	Or frankly, I'm addicted or I can't do these things.
	But instead of getting help for that addiction, you blame the addiction.
	And I've had to counsel many, many people.
	And the first step always, as you know this and the listeners know this, the first step in curing any addiction is admitting you have one.
	And if you don't admit that, then you can't go on.
	So for me, this whole concept here goes back to a situation in which I don't like the norms
	of society, so I'm going to push the norms of society.
	But instead of just living and carving out my little niche in the world, I'm going to
	make you make it acceptable so that I feel better.
	And when you get into that, then that's the whole concept.
	That's the tearing down, whether you go into the different agencies you talked about.
	But very powerful drivers are social media, very powerful drivers are movies.
	It used to be for you and I, movies or radio was the movers, okay?
	It may be a newspaper.
	Nowadays, think about what can come into a child's life with this thing right here.
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	All right Doug, most fun question of all.
	We've had all kinds of answers over the weeks and months that we started this.
	For you, in your conceptualization, when you started to work out, okay, this is what it means to be a man, this is what I have to try and emulate, who were your role models in life?
	First and foremost, my father.
	And I think it's what we talked about earlier, he's the one closest to me.
	And he was a state trooper.
	He was a guy's guy.
	Was he one of these scary state troopers who was like eight foot tall with a big hat?
	Yes.
	Here it is.
	I'm a scrawny kid.
	I mean, I graduated high school at six foot two and 140 pounds soaking wet.
	My daddy was 6'2", 250.
	Wow.
	And he's still alive.
	I have him with me.
	We just had a nice trip about a week ago that I got to take him to the beach after almost 30 years.
	But look, here's the thing that stood out to my dad.
	Not that he was a state trooper, which he was.
	He was good.
	He'd get in fights.
	I mean, I remember him coming home and, you know, have blood on his shirt.
	But you know, the things that impressed me that have now impressed upon me later in my life when I had kids was that my dad would take his dinner hour and coach me in football.
	He would coach the team.
	He would come in, he would take his hour, he would come down, take his patrol shirt off, and was out there helping us out.
	He'd leave work and come and coach you guys and then go back to being a trooper?
	Yeah, he'd pull the car up, he'd go 10-7, and he would have his t-shirt, I can still see it in my mind, Seb, he'd have his white t-shirt on, his state trooper pants, his state trooper shoes on, and he took his shirt off and he would get out there and help us and coach us in football.
	Um, he was always there for my brother and I and I think to the side of that and my mom and so for me that tough masculine side had the true heart of a man and the true heart of because he that he was that he was that protector he was that wolf he was that shepherd however you want to call it who knew that this is my family and we were a close-knit little family and but that was what showed me that you can be very tough and very caring And all in the same person.
	So, you know, look, as I went on in life, I began to gravitate and I would see people that I would model in life.
	But I have to go back to him.
	All right, so let's see if we can tease it out a little bit.
	So tough, but caring.
	What other things for you did he provide you a model for?
	He told me the ability to deny me something, even if that made me mad.
	And I think that was something that was very important.
	Why is that important?
	That's really interesting.
	So denying his son something, why does that stick in your mind?
	Because if I'd have got everything I wanted, then I was nothing more than a spoiled brat.
	And for me, it was work for it.
	If you want to do something, you got to work for it.
	It was always a saying when I was getting older in high school, that if I wanted to do extra, he would take care of my basics.
	But if I want to do some extra, I'd have to get a job.
	If I didn't want to go to college, I didn't want to do the thing.
	He said, is it going to be one of two things?
	He said, are you going to go get a job and move out, or are you going to go to the military?
	One or the other.
	Um, but the, but he was always there.
	And another thing I want to, I want to chip in this real quick.
	The other thing about him was though, is he was always meticulous about our finances.
	I didn't realize this how, until I was much older, but state troopers wasn't paid a whole lot.
	My mom worked on an outside job a little bit.
	We didn't have a lot, but I would watch my dad.
	When I was younger, I didn't think about this.
	Mom would cook up a whole chicken, you know, fried up.
	And my dad always said, I love the lizards, the gizzards and the livers and the leg.
	And I always thought, well, dad's just a country guy who's just weird.
	And what I really come to find out later was he would eat whatever we didn't finish up.
	He made sure we had the best.
	Wow.
	You know, I could almost get choked up about it right now, but as I grew up and then I watched him as he handled his finances.
	And I remember the one thing, one final thing.
	I went to get my first car.
	Okay.
	I'm big guy, 17.
	I got a job.
	I've saved up a thousand dollars.
	I had this beautiful Buick Regal I was going to go buy.
	And we had to go to the bottom of the bank to get a couple of thousand more dollars.
	What it was back 35 years ago, 38 years ago.
	And we went into the bank, and I knew the banker, and Dad knew the banker, and I thought the banker was just treating me really, really good.
	I mean, he said, oh Doug, he said, you got the, here's your job, and we're gonna make you sign these papers here.
	And what was really important, what really I missed at the moment, but I recognized soon after, he was being nice to me, because the man standing in the door, Had my back.
	Yeah.
	And that's what I think is just so much about what we see today needs to happen.
	Men need to be men.
	Women need to be women.
	And we need to be comfortable in our own skin.
	Wow.
	The things, it's fascinating, the things that stick in your mind.
	I remember I had to sell my favorite bicycle, my drop handlebar bicycle, so that my dad would allow me to buy my first car.
	It was a 1966 Land Rover.
	I had to sacrifice You can't have a bicycle and a car.
	You can choose one.
	And I parted company with my beloved bicycle, but I had that very slow but very cool car.
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	Those who can say their father was their most important influence in understanding what a man is are truly, truly lucky.
	Give us your definition.
	If you had to write down now, you know, in this age of the assault upon masculinity, the labeling of how toxic we are, what is it to be a real man, Doug?
	To be strong, to be faithful, and to be honest.
	Um, that is to me, encompassing, having integrity is also encompassing and honesty, but I don't be afraid to be who you are.
	And also, but also at the same time, you know, the straight, the strongest man in the room doesn't always get up and break the chairs.
	And I see too many young men these days thinking they have to be the ones ripping their shirt off and going out.
	No!
	The strongest men in the room are typically the strongest men in the room because they know when to attack and they know when to stay quiet.
	And I think that's one of the biggest things right now.
	Right, I think Jordan Peterson says you need to know how to be dangerous, but not to apply it unless it is absolutely necessary.
	That's his way of thinking.
	Yeah, what is it?
	I'd rather be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war.
	Bingo, that's it.
	All right, let me run a theory past you, because the title of your latest book is fascinating.
	And he talked about fighting impeachment in Congress.
	The Clock and the Calendar, a front row look at the Democrats' obsession with Donald Trump.
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	And I've got a theory.
	And it's got a foreword by Maria Bartiromo.
	Come on, guys.
	You know it's good.
	I think a lot of people hate my old boss.
	The guy who you fought for when he was being smeared, because he so typifies for them an old-school form of masculinity.
	You know, I think a lot of the never-Trumper movement, the people who say they're conservatives but detest President Trump and try to sabotage him, they look at him and they say, ooh, he's not sophisticated.
	He's from Queens.
	He's big.
	He's tall.
	He's loud.
	And it's...
	It's an assault on masculinity that kind of transmogrifies into this political assault.
	Do you think there's something to my theory that a lot of people hate him, not because of his politics, but because he's big and loud and proud?
	Yes, very much so.
	I used to remind reporters all the time, reporters in youth experiences, they come up offline, they come out, you know, catch you in the hall, they catch you behind the scene.
	I'll never forget in 2017, about three months into the administration, I had this one reporter, and if I named the reporter, everybody would know who I'm talking about.
	And they looked at me and they said that, uh, I can't believe he's doing, and he, they named off XXX.
	And I looked at him and I said, why not?
	And they said, they said, well, well, uh, well, uh, and they sort of stumbled for a minute.
	And they said, I said, did he just not run a campaign saying the exact same things?
	Well, yeah, but, but now he's president.
	And I said, there's your problem.
	I said you try to divorce the person and make them into something they're not.
	I have a big theory about politics right now.
	There's been a national divorce between politics and reality.
	And until both sides realize that we've divorced reality from politics, Then we're going to be a problem.
	But yeah, that's what it was.
	I mean, look, I was talking to people all the time.
	I go across country.
	I said, guys, remember, this was a kid.
	There's two things about Donald Trump.
	This is a kid who grew up across the river and looked across at Manhattan and said, I'm going to change that skyline.
	Guess what?
	He did.
	Number two, he was a builder, a general contractor.
	Let's break it down to what it is.
	In New York City.
	I mean, what was he going to be, a wallflower?
	Are you kidding me?
	The toughest real estate market in the world.
	Yeah, and building buildings, doing things with people, making deals.
	And one of the things that I found out while I was in Congress is people got real upset because sometimes he would say, okay, this is the deal.
	And then, you know, we get ready on the Hill to carry out the bill or pass it the next day or whatever.
	And all of a sudden you'd hear the next day, well, I'm not sure.
	And then I finally sat down with a guy, I was dealing with some folks in New York, and they said, and I was talking about how that was frustrating that he would say yes, and then he would say the next morning no, and then we'd, you know, work it out, and then we'd get it done.
	He said, Doug, you gotta understand, that's the way business was done in New York.
	He said you'd have the deal the night before, you'd have the meal, he said both of them would go home, and you'd think about it, and then the next morning you'd say, oh, screw this, I want five more cents.
	And then they would say, okay, fine, and they'd build it.
	But Washington's not built that way.
	And so, yeah, I mean, he was the proverbial bull in the china shop.
	One more political question, then we'll get back to the topic at hand.
	On Friday, you wrote a piece for the Washington Examiner.
	And in fact, it's part of the topic at hand because, you know, you mentioned having a father at home is so important.
	There are so many People who've gone to prison, their kids grow up without a father at home, and there was the First Step Act.
	And you wrote a fascinating piece, I'm the Republican architect of the First Step Act, and Ron DeSantis is wrong about the bill.
	Will you explain why you wrote that piece and why Ron is wrong?
	Love to.
	And again, my simple reason for writing this is just simply to say, look, in a presidential campaign, there's going to be temptations to say a lot of stuff to appease your consultants or your voters.
	But wrong statements are bad is worse.
	And I think what happened here, even as an attack on Donald Trump, the First Step Act was a bill that was designed to actually make our criminal justice system better, safer for all of us.
	Because here's an interesting statistic, Seb.
	95% of all people who are incarcerated, from the federal level down to the local level, come home.
	So the question is, in this bill and what Donald Trump signed and what we worked on so hard, was to say, for those who want to, we're going to give them the ability to get better as they're in prison.
	We're not saying that you're getting out of your punishment, you're going to still do your time, but why not give them job skills, addiction skills, anger management?
	education so that when they come out they go to a pre-release program where
	they're still supervised and then they can come back into society and actually
	become productive citizens. Going back to those same kids at Prison Fellowship
	which is a great organization to deal with, they go back home to those families.
	And so I said look you're not going to just take a potshot at this. How do I
	know it's a potshot? Because the normal recidivism rate is over 40% closer to 50%
	coming out of federal prison.
	The Department of Justice in their own statistics of those released under the First Step Act and those steps that were taken there, the recidivism rate is 12%.
	Wow.
	And DeSantis attacked the First Step Act, but didn't he vote for it, Doug?
	Yeah, he did.
	And I had to bring that out, too.
	Taking a position is one thing.
	Being honest about your position is another.
	And I hope the DeSantis campaign going forward will be a little bit quicker to understand what they're dealing with.
	But there's also a part here that really, if you really want to dig deeper, because
	he said I'll just do away with it altogether as a jailbreak bill, which is just a lie.
	It's a petty political talking point.
	But here's the interesting part.
	There was a provision in that bill that when women, and we do have this, who are pregnant
	when they get incarcerated, they have their children while incarcerated.
	And up until this bill, many of them were actually shackled, handcuffed to the bed while they were giving birth.
	And if Ron DeSantis thinks that's a good idea and he wants to go out and tell people he's for shackling women while they're giving birth, then I don't think you should say I would do away with the First Step Act altogether on my first day.
	Well, that's why we miss you on Capitol Hill, because you were a truth teller then as well.
	We're talking to Doug Collins.
	Please go to thedougcollinspodcast.com.
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	We want to address this if you want to respond to this assault on masculinity this
	Attack on classic virtues of manhood What would you put in a syllabus for young men for like 10
	year old 12 year old boys?
	What kinds of things?
	I mean they're not even allowed in some places to play with toy guns now.
	Okay, I mean, seriously?
	So what would be the first things they would have to learn if we rebuild this ethos?
	One, to get outside.
	I think reinstating that work is good.
	And that it's not a punishment.
	Yeah.
	I mean, how many times, and if you're listening to this show and you use work as a punishment for your kids, like say, well, you, you didn't do this, so you got to go clean out the, the, the sinks outside or whatever, then, then you're, you're be careful what you're doing.
	Because in our society today, I want to say this, you, what you and I are privileged to get to do is amazing.
	But I remember actually working in chicken houses.
	We had chicken houses.
	I remember, you know, working a job.
	That's real work, working in a chicken house.
	When you own chicken houses, yeah, it's real work.
	But it is valuable.
	For the person out there listening to this show today, on the first of the week, they're listening to the show, they're picking up trash, they're a plumber, they're an electrician.
	Your work matters.
	And I think when we start implementing back into a curriculum that work is important, that education is important, that being or playing dumb, if you would, is not the values, that we want to have a strong body and a strong mind.
	And those are the things that I think you've got to reinvigorate in them that really matter.
	And I know you're a pastor, so you know we've already won.
	We've already won our eternal battle up there.
	But we've got work to do down here.
	When it comes to the assault on masculinity and on womanhood, we could have... Yes.
	My wife could do a podcast on, you know, the war on womanhood.
	Where do you stand?
	Are you an optimist or a pessimist?
	For where we are now, knowing that one of those days that eastern sky is going to break, I'm an optimistic realist.
	In other words, and I think that's where, for those of faith, I think Christ showed us.
	I think He was always working, He was always moving forward, knowing that not everybody that He spoke to would be reached, but He kept going anyway.
	So for me, I'm optimistic that we can move forward, but I also take a very realist approach that doesn't get grounded out of where we're at and say, look, I may not be able to get all of it, but I'm going to get part of it.
	And then I'll come back again.
	Well, dear friend, Doug Collins, I want to thank you for your service in uniform, for your service here in Capitol Hill, and for your continued service to the nation with what you do, speaking to all of those who want to hear the truth every single day.
	Please follow him at RepCollins on Twitter.
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