Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Why they called Larry Elder "the black face of white supremacy"
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I wanted to make history.
I wanted to do something no other Congress has done.
That we would literally turn the ship.
That for the first time, in quite some time, we'd spend less than we spent the year before.
Tonight, we all made history.
Because this is the biggest cut and savings this Congress has ever voted for.
And it's not that we're just voting for it.
This is going to be law.
Kevin, it may be the biggest cut in history, but that's because of the inflated expenditure of the COVID packages that the Biden administration has brought before the American people.
Not only that, This deal, the biggest part of it that nobody on your team wants to talk about, doesn't limit the debt ceiling for two years.
For two years, you have given the Democrats unfettered expenditure possibilities.
It's passed the House.
The vote was 314 to 117 and 149 Republicans, please just note this down on scrap of paper,
149 quote-unquote Republicans voted for this to increase our debt by four trillion, not billion,
four trillion dollars.
And to make sure that there is zero pressure, no pressure, no debt ceiling argument next year or the year after, which is perfect for what?
For the Democrats in a presidential election year.
Free reign to spend as much as they want when we want to win the next election.
There are some on Capitol Hill.
Oh, sorry.
Greetings.
Welcome, dear friends, to America First, with me, Sebastian Walker.
There are some on Capitol Hill, outside of the 20 in the House, you know who they are, the patriots, who have had enough and who are speaking out in the Senate as well.
Here's Dr. Rand Paul.
You know, there's nothing conservative about the Biden-McCarthy plan.
It allows unlimited borrowing for two years beyond the next presidential election.
They can spend as much money as they can possibly spend, borrow as much money as they want.
No limits on borrowing for two years.
Nothing conservative about that.
No limiting on borrowing for two years.
What are the next two years going to look like?
If the Democrats can spend your money without no discussion of the debt limit, no negotiation, zero leverage on behalf of those who call themselves conservatives, they, just like Mitch McConnell in the continuing resolution, handed over the power of the purse of the House until September, ripping it away from the House, Kevin McCarthy's deal does the same for the debt ceiling for the next two years.
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The left gets it!
The left gets it!
Obama's cash-for-clunkers czar.
Do you remember him?
Steve Ratner?
In response to a gloating op-ed piece in one of our newspapers.
Admitted!
They got everything they wanted!
Cut three!
And I think the headline on his op-ed kind of says it all, game set and almost match to Biden.
One thing to note about that bipartisan vote that you guys were just talking about is that there were more Republicans who voted against this, against the thing their own speaker had negotiated, than there were Democrats.
You guys had some fun yesterday with words like ephemeral and malodorous.
And it is all, I think, an indication that, in fact, the White House did get the better of the deal.
The White House got the better of the deal.
Hey, Ratner, it's not mal-odorous.
If you're going to use fancy words, learn to pronounce them.
I know nobody watches the left-wing TV, but it's mal-odorous.
They got the deal that they wanted.
What's happening with us on the other side?
President Trump has just given an address in Iowa.
We'll share with you what he has to say.
Somebody wants to take him down.
His name is Ron DeSantis.
Strangely, he's trying to attack President Trump by outflanking him on the right.
Attacking him on abortion, which is strange, Ron.
Because without the three associate court justices in the Supreme Court, we wouldn't have struck down Roe v. Wade.
So how are you going to outflank President Trump on one of the most historic decisions in American history ever?
Very hard to do.
Maybe you'll be petty.
Maybe you'll be petulant.
Maybe you'll make comments like this.
At a public event, he's asked why President Trump didn't fix things when he was in the White House.
Not only his tenor, but his response should be noted.
Cut 10.
Why didn't he do it in his first four years?
Why didn't he do what, Ron?
Oh, by the way, if you're not watching, let's play that again as a B-roll.
Did you notice at the beginning, Jeff, how creepy his behavior was?
He takes a photograph with somebody and he does that typical Washington thing where he turns on his green for like a millisecond.
As soon as the camera disappears, he turns off the green.
That's not very sympathetic.
And he can't wait to get his arm away from her and get off of her too, right?
Yes!
Yes!
And then he says, why didn't he fix it in his first four years?
So this is how he's going to win.
He's doing the traditional stuff because he's so good at it, remember?
He did say that, yes.
The second endorsement from Joe Scarborough.
So he didn't fix it in the first four years.
Like what, Ron?
Like he didn't fix illegal immigration?
He didn't crush ISIS?
He didn't fix the economy?
rid of hundreds of regulations that were crushing small businesses. He didn't have
the lowest unemployment since record-keeping began for minorities, the
lowest for women since the 1960s. The greatest support, the greatest support
from minorities since the 1960s for a Republican president.
The biggest economy we've ever seen.
But it continues.
In a podcast for someone I have literally never heard of.
And Jeff, who knows radio like nobody else, has likewise never heard of, Ron DeSantis said the following about why President Trump isn't in the White House anymore.
Cut 9.
What's your reaction to attacks like that, even on your name?
Do you think that's sort of beneath the former president, or is that what you expect?
I think it's so petty.
I think it's so juvenile.
I don't think that's what voters want.
And honestly, I think that his conduct, which he's been doing for years now, I think that's one of the reasons he's not in the White House now.
Because I think he alienated too many voters for things that really don't matter.
So I don't get in the gutter on any of that.
You don't get in the gutter?
That's a lie.
You're beneath the gutter.
You're in the sewer.
You're trudging through the effluent.
Two days after the Alvin Bragg indictments are leaked, you make jokes about hush money for porn stars?
That's dishonorable.
That's petty.
That's gutter politics.
We're on?
It's not honorable.
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Oh, okay.
Matt.
Oh, okay. Matt.
Can you play aid again for me, please?
You're away from the mic, what did you say?
Can you play 8 again for me please?
The essence of a lot of comedy is a revealed truth.
Like a hidden truth that people understand intuitively or explicitly.
And there's that sort of moment of reveal.
You know, kernel of often unacknowledged truth, and in that unacknowledged truth is the humor.
If you're, you know, premised on a lie, you can no longer be funny because there's no revealed truth.
And this is...
You know why a lot of people on the left have no sense of humor?
They're not funny.
And if there are so many no-fly zones, you know, that you have to avoid all the time, then there's nothing left to have fun about.
Is that a Dogecoin t-shirt?
My god, yes it is!
Oh, that's so good!
I love him.
John Cardillo has just lost it.
He has lost it.
He's the face of that whole ring of like paid influencers.
Hey Matt, are you there?
Yeah, can you hear me?
Oh, there we go.
Yeah, Matt, how you doing?
What's going on, dude?
All right, we having fun?
Lots of fun.
Good, good, good, good.
What are you working on?
Um, some 2024 stuff.
So, um, yeah.
That's a little, a little vague.
Some 2024 stuff.
All sorts of things, man.
Like you, whatever you want to talk about.
All right.
Good.
All right.
We've got a, we've got like a full call board.
So I'm going to keep you for one segment and then jump to calls if that's all good.
All right.
Good, good, good, good.
All right.
Excellent.
All right.
Um, I'm going to play a cut.
From Chicago, but I'll tee that up.
And then, well first we'll talk about the whole, the debt ceiling vote.
Oh, okay.
All right.
So you have that for...
Uh, Catherine's confirmed, right, Jeff?
Yes.
Okay, great.
Skype, right?
90.
Yes, but she's not sure if her video camera's gonna work.
Okay.
Angel Tree Audio?
Yeah, we'll use the new one.
Play seven again from me, please.
I don't see any eagerness on the part of Jack Smith and his team to slow down.
I think they have their foot on his neck.
I noticed that Trump, as he did three days before he was indicted by Alvin Bragg, was raising money today on the alleged coming indictment by Jack Smith.
So I think Trump and his own team believe this is going to come quickly.
Wow.
You said you'll tee up cut four.
Yes.
Alrighty.
Angel tree at the top here.
Oh, title for the monologue?
Um... It's about the debt deal.
Also DeSantis.
Um, can you split it in two?
Um, yeah, I can do that.
that.
20 seconds.
I'm going to go ahead and start the timer.
I'm going to start the timer.
Man alive!
The core board exploded.
Every line is full.
Don't go anywhere.
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All right, they're more than halfway there.
They got the vote for the debt ceiling deal.
Is it going to pass the Senate?
What are the ramifications for the Republicans in the House?
Let's ask the man who knows.
He is the Washington Bureau Chief for the conservative juggernaut that is Breitbart.com.
Matt Boyle, welcome back to America First.
Dr. G, always a pleasure.
Great to be here, as always.
You know, I wasn't sure.
I was listening to a couple of people like Matt Gaetz and others.
I didn't think it was going to go through.
Are you surprised by the vote yesterday?
And is this just going to be easy sailing now in the Senate?
I wasn't surprised.
I've covered enough of these and watched and was doing the math and the lead up to it.
I was saying the over under for the number of Republicans was going to be around 150.
It was 149, right?
So I'm not shocked at this outcome at all.
I get it that there's a lot of people on the right that are upset about this.
However, I would say that for McCarthy's purposes, he delivered two-thirds of the Republican conference, actually more than that, which is a big deal.
In the past, we'd seen when John Boehner and Paul Ryan were the Speaker, they would do the whole 30 Republicans and 200 Democrats thing, right?
That didn't happen in this case.
It was about evenly split.
There were a little more Democrats.
I don't think that you're going to see some mass rebellion against McCarthy from Republican members.
You've already seen guys like Chip Roy already kind of walking back some of that stuff after it became clear that this thing was going to sail through the House.
And it did.
It sailed through the House.
314 votes is a lot of votes.
I think that it's going to sail through the Senate.
It will make it through.
The question is just how long and what process and procedures do they have to do to get there.
They're working out right now what they call a time agreement in the Senate to pass, you know, will all 100 senators agree that they will kind of expedite things because they know how it's going to end anyway.
And I think you're going to see probably north of 70 votes in the Senate, depending on how many Democrats vote for it and how many Republicans.
70.
70?
Yeah, probably there's about.
That would be my guess right now.
And what about the fact that you've got great patriots like Dan Bishop even floating the ideas of vacating the chair and voting against Kevin.
Is that now dead?
Is he safe forever?
I don't think he's safe forever.
I don't think they're going to do it as a result of this deal.
I think that, look, people get a little heated.
Everybody fought their fight.
But again, McCarthy delivered two-thirds of their House Republicans.
And there were a lot of good conservatives who voted for the bill, too, that made the
argument.
They were people like Jim Jordan, Marjorie Taylor Greene, right?
I mean, they're not rhinos, right?
They voted for the bill.
And so there are good conservatives who argue that this was a good deal.
And again, two-thirds of the Republican conference in the House voted for it.
So I think what you've got here is a family of conservatives.
We saw it at the beginning of the year with the speakership election.
That was, you know, and since then they were pretty united.
This was one that split the team, and they've got to figure out the pathway forward.
And, you know, again, I would point people to Thomas Massey.
I think he's a great conservative.
Look at what he was saying about the appropriations process.
So that's going to set this up as the next fight, and they're going to have to deliver on that.
I was talking to somebody in leadership today.
I say, like, look, okay, this sets the table.
You guys better deliver on the 12 appropriations bills, right?
And so they're going to have to do that.
So they're going to have to do the 12 appropriations bills and they're going to have to deliver some real serious reforms in that regard.
Alright, well a couple of footnotes.
MTG shocked many people when she bolted from the 20 and decided to support Kevin McCarthy.
So the jury is still out on MTG.
When it comes to Massey, I heard Massey on a Twitter space is in front of thousands of people called Devin Nunes a deep stater.
I have a bone to pick with Mr. Massey.
We're talking to Matt Boyle.
Follow him right now on Truth Social at Real Matt Boyle.
Let's talk about the left side of the aisle.
They may have some difficulties, some trouble in the coming months.
There's a woman called Caroline Ruff.
She's a BLM activist, Matt.
And very interestingly, she's had it with Biden's open border policy and funding for migrants.
This is at a Chicago, Chicago Town Hall.
And this is what a BLM activist had to say.
And I encourage the aldermen to please vote it down.
Because number one, we have not opened up the schools for our homeless.
We see them in the streets every day.
I make sure that the homeless are fed with clothing.
We need to take care of our community.
We need to take care of our black community.
We need to open up these schools for mental health.
We need to allocate some of this money for our black children.
For the black community.
We have not gotten anything for our community.
And we are sick and tired of being sick and tired.
Enough is enough.
She's shouting down the new mayor of Chicago, standing right there, staring at that BLM activist.
I know you're concentrating a lot now on 2024, Matt.
How much could this be an Achilles heel for the administration and the Democrats?
If BLM has had it with illegal immigration, could this be what loses it for them in 2024?
It's definitely going to be a major thing, and you want to look at the national polls on the Democrat side.
There's a reason why Biden's only around 60, and you've got RFK Jr.
I think the president's going to have to debate them eventually.
I don't know if they beat him, but look, the president fell down again today.
I don't know if you saw the video.
Just moments ago, like half an hour ago.
Yeah, just moments ago.
It was really, really bad.
And I think that Democrats sense that this administration and the Democrat Party as a whole and its leadership across the board, from their president to the leaders in Congress on down to governors and mayors, are failing them.
And they're not governing, right?
And they're not solving these problems.
So it's a real issue for them, and they're going to have to address it.
If BLM has had enough, it's a fascinating sign.
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Title for Matt and the second half of the first segment?
Yeah, the second half.
DeSantis.
DeSantis is lecturing anyone on being petty question mark exclamation mark.
Alright.
Is Kevin McCarthy safe now?
And Chris?
Chris, um...
The OG Terminator colon sci-fi slasher pressure.
Horror, alright.
No, just sci-fi slasher.
Oh, sci-fi slasher, okay.
Wasn't the Air Force graduation when Trump took a picture with every one of them after it?
I don't remember whether that, whether it was Air Force, I think, was it Air Force or was it Naval Academy?
I don't remember.
I doubt Biden did that today.
I doubt it.
Can you get the video of that for the next hour?
How did he even fall?
He didn't even trip or anything.
No.
Well, he's got special skills.
Can you play Cut 6 again?
I'm sorry?
Can you play Cut 6 again? 6.
Nope, six.
There we go.
course evidence the president interacted with his relatives, associates from China, Mexico,
Wow.
Kazakhstan, Russia, and Ukraine.
So what do you say to the majority of Americans who believe that the president is himself
corrupt?
Wow.
Jesus.
Can I take that question?
The president's broken to this.
Wow.
One minute.
I've got the Clint Eastwood cut too.
Oh, you have?
Yeah.
Um... Yeah, will you cut, um... No, I'll tee it up.
We'll tee it up right at the top here.
No, actually, I'll use it with Jack Car.
I'll use it with Jack Car.
Use it with Car.
Okay.
Yeah.
Alright, the falling video's up, Eric.
Okay, and you said you're gonna do...
Pillow and then merch.
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Can I see the falling video?
Oh no, forget it.
I don't have it yet.
We don't have time.
Okay, no worries You
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Line one, Brooklyn, Alex.
Hey, Sebastian.
Thanks for taking the call.
I got two things about this debt ceiling thing.
The one I'm the most mad about, you know, most people aren't so focused on this.
Lindsey Graham, the hell with him, you know what I'm saying?
He's coming out about this bill that he's not going to vote for it because it doesn't have enough defense spending.
Now if he really cared about the American people having a good military, then that's one thing.
But I keep on seeing this pattern where every single time there's a chance for us to go into war or to get more military equipment, For any reason to give it to Ukraine or to start a war with the cartel members or whatever it is.
He's always out there for it and I'm pretty sure he's getting a lot of money from the corporations that build these military equipment.
Are you talking about the same Lindsey Graham who for the last six years has promised to subpoena everybody but who hasn't subpoenaed anybody?
That Lindsey Graham?
Oh sure, I'd like to see exactly how much money he's getting from these corporations because he's a piece of crap as far as I'm concerned.
But I also wanted to say about this bill that You know, it could be Kevin McCarthy.
I think he should have waited a couple of more days.
Maybe the Biden administration wouldn't have given it, would have given him some more stuff in this bill to call back on some bills that have already passed that haven't been spent yet.
But I do think that we wouldn't have gotten much more out of what, than what we got because the Biden administration, I don't believe they care if we default.
And I want to say why the reason is because up until now, we've had so many disasters in this country, one after another.
With inflation, gas prices, wars abroad, and all of that is directly linked to the policies and decisions made by the Biden administration.
He's saying MAGA MAGA and he's blaming us, but it's not sellable.
I don't believe that Democratic voters are buying it because there's... Your point is far too long, Alex.
Get to the point.
You've lost me.
What's your second point?
The point is that if we default, this is going to be the first time since he became president we're going to be able to partly fault the Republicans.
And he's going to take this lie exaggerated, but that's how it's going to be sellable.
Well, that's what they always do, Alex.
That's not you.
Whatever it is, they always blame the Republicans because that's what they do.
Thank you, Alex.
Rita, Nashville.
Thank you for taking my call.
Love, love, love your show.
Listen to it every day.
Thank you.
I am just, you know, I'm not disappointed because I knew this was going to happen, but however, What do we need to do?
I mean, I email, I call, I get people engaged, call your representatives, and it just doesn't seem to do any good at all.
I'll tell you two things.
Number one, don't call, don't email.
It sounds weird, but trust me, I've spoken to the staff members in the Senate and on Capitol Hill.
A letter, a real letter, to your senator, to your representative, is actually calculated to be between 100 and 200 phone calls.
So write them a real letter.
And secondly, do what my wife did, Rita.
Run for local office.
We need to take back America.
One school board, one community center, one local county commissioner at a time.
Rita, write letters and run for office.
Thank you.
Wesley, Georgia.
My buddy Carter?
Who are you talking about, my buddy Carter?
Yes!
Who are you talking about? My buddy Carter.
Yes!
Representative Buddy Carter, 1st Congressional District in Georgia.
Okay.
And the man should be primaried.
I think Steve Bannon made a good point with your fellow Salem host yesterday, Charlie Kirk.
We've got to primary these people that don't vote right.
Yes. Yes. Absolutely.
And I'm going to be, I don't know about Buddy Carter, but if he was being discussed on Charlie's show, we're going to look into it and I'll be on Steve Bannon's show later today.
So Wesley, thank you for the update.
We'll look into it.
That's the other thing.
So right.
Primary them!
If they're rhinos, run and primary them.
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Did Donald Trump ever, ever fall like this anywhere?
That's nuts!
That was a raw fall.
That's even worse than the bike.
Wow.
Got stuck on the podium?
Yeah, that's a natural liar.
That's a what?
try and blame anything on someone.
That's a what?
Natural liar.
Those instincts are still there to blame something else when it happens.
I'm dialing her now.
Thanks.
I'll have the mics off, Alex.
Yeah.
Thanks.
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Social media.
It's a disease, it's an addiction, it's a gutter, but sometimes interesting things happen.
You go on a Twitter space with thousands of people and you get a DM and you meet somebody, a direct message, and you find potentially new allies.
Somebody I'd like to introduce you to, a writer with bylines in all kinds of interesting places, Newsweek, Variety, even The Guardian in the UK.
is Catherine Brodsky, and we've been having a very interesting chat with her on Twitter.
Catherine, welcome to America First!
Thanks for having me.
So, I believe you, do you speak Russian?
Is that right?
You read Russian?
I speak Russian.
I read some Russian as well, just a little slowly.
All right, so the thing we connected on, and maybe you can help me because I've been trying to work this out now for 15 months, is how otherwise... My issue is with my fellow conservatives.
I know you're not a conservative, but that's okay.
We'll forgive you for a moment.
How decent people on both sides of the political aisle Are buying into propaganda out of Moscow, especially conservatives, are saying, yes, he was surrounded and Ukraine provoked him and he's saving Western civilization.
You could read what he says in the original Russian.
Do you have any idea why some people are saying crazy stuff like that, Catherine?
Yeah, well I've been watching this unfold from the very beginning and I think there's so many different narratives that are happening and I think having the benefit of knowing multiple languages has really helped me.
So I was actually born in the USSR in the part that is Ukraine.
You don't look old enough to have been born in the USSR.
It must have been the Russian Federation.
I do not believe you for a second.
I am genetically gifted.
People should study me and my family, but that aside, I basically, you know, so that kind of gives me a little bit of an advantage, I think.
And when I first started, you know, all this, you know, the fog of war, as they call it, right?
And I was trying to figure out for myself with a bit of an open mind.
Because I didn't really, even though I was born in Ukraine, you know, I've had all sorts of conflicted feelings because my family did sort of flee from the Soviet Union.
And so, you know, we were bombarded with all sorts of information.
And so I was trying to figure it out for myself and people were sending me all sorts of articles about, you know, the Donbass area, you know, eight years of Of, uh, you know, fire.
And so I started like looking at facts and I was also reading the things that, you know, Russia was putting out and what they're putting out internally and what they're saying to the people in Russia and what they're putting out to people in Russia right now and what they're putting out to the Western audience.
And those things do not match, by the way.
For example, that whole narrative about the UN and, you know, the fact how afraid they are, sorry, not the UN, NATO, how afraid they are of NATO, you know, how that's such a huge threat to them versus what they're putting out internally and how they're not afraid to use nuclear weapons and how they want to wipe out Ukraine and how they want to get rid of it.
Are you telling me a KGB colonel is saying one thing internationally and another thing domestically, Catherine?
What a surprise, right?
Wow.
And then he'll do these speeches, like Putin will do these speeches about wokeness and the disease of the West, right?
And how these traditional values are being infringed on.
And guess who is he speaking directly to?
Because I know the Russian culture quite a bit, right?
Even Ukrainian culture is not particularly quote unquote woke.
And they don't have the worries that people, especially conservatives, and I'm pretty familiar at this point what conservatives are worried about, and even some liberals, I would say.
And there is no worry whatsoever about what people here call woke.
Russians, there is no threat of that.
They haven't even accepted the, you know, LGBTQ part of things.
So this is all a charade, right?
This is a smokescreen.
He knows what will resonate with certain audiences abroad and he uses that against us.
So how people don't see through that, I don't get it.
So Catherine, help me out here.
We're limited on time.
I want everybody to follow you on Twitter, mysteriouscatwithak and randomminds.substack.com.
What would you say to those?
What is the most important thing people need to understand about Russia?
And not necessarily the culture, the history, the people, but about the government of Russia.
What do they need to understand as the ground truth, Catherine?
Is somebody born in the Soviet Union?
Yeah, I mean, that's a really great question.
I mean, to me, Russia is a threat.
You know, I think Russia is trying to has never I mean, the Cold War has never really stopped.
And while I don't I don't have a dislike over the Russian people, I think it's a mistake to think that because there is some levels of agreement about certain cultural phenomenons.
That Russia doesn't have ambitions.
And you have to look at, I mean, Russia is currently trying to influence a lot of American opinion.
They pay influencers in the US to spread all this propaganda.
And people have to look at it with a very critical eye, and they're not.
They're not looking at the facts.
They're buying a lot of the narratives.
And I think I urge people to really look at concrete facts instead of looking at narratives and repeating them.
So that is the number one thing I'll urge people to do.
I think I have the title for this segment when we post it online.
The Cold War never ended, especially for the Kremlin.
Wise words from our guest, Katherine Brodsky.
Follow her, a mysterious cat with a K, on Twitter.
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It's not going to be Kamala or any of the other popular ones.
That's a really good theory.
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I mean, they're only the best rock group in history.
Yeah, why not?
We had so much fun with him yesterday.
It was so abbreviated, though, that no monologue in the second hour.
I'm sorry, no monologue.
He's back.
He is the man who was our first guest, our inaugural guest.
On the Manhood Hour.
With good reason, because not only is he an incredibly successful author celebrating toxic masculinity, well of course he is.
He's a former SEAL.
Jack Carr on deck.
Jack, welcome back.
It's been a minute.
It's been 24 hours, so good to see you again.
You too.
Thank you for carving out time.
I know you're on a super busy book schedule because of the launch of your new book, Only the Dead.
But first things first, I've been looking at your timeline on Twitter.
So much fun.
I'm going to be very indiscreet.
What year were you born in?
73.
All right.
I've got a couple of years on you, but your taste in movies is exactly stinking the same as mine.
I just went on your thing.
It's all Stallone.
It's all, you know, Blue Thunder.
It's Cobra.
It's Rambo.
We got to get you on my Making Movies podcast as well.
But first, on that, to that end, you had a photograph of a legend at the top of your timeline.
And I want to share this video from yesterday.
He was born the same year as my father, but Clint is still Ticking and man he was Clint on his birthday.
Let's play it Happy birthday to you!
Happy birthday dear Gramps!
Happy birthday to you!
Woo!
Knock it off!
So his grandkids bring him a lovely cake, sing him a song and he says,
I'll knock it off!
That's Clint Eastwood classic.
Clint, happy birthday to an absolute legend.
And it's a funny small world, Jack.
I've got to share this story with you.
This morning, for my sins, I'm trying to prep for my Newsmax show.
I have to do a podcast interview with my old colleague, Sean Spicer, former presidential press secretary.
And he said, I just had Jack Carr on my show and he answered a question.
I just asked you exactly the same.
He said, has any famous person ever surprised you?
And I thought about that.
Huh.
And I thought back to a dinner out of the blue I was invited to.
Here's the photograph with a legend, with Sly Stallone.
And I said, you know what shocked me?
He was absolutely bloody normal.
And I think you said the same thing, Jack.
Exactly and for me having Stallone reach out to my agent and or his agent I guess reached out to mine and want to have a conversation with me about a project I mean for a child of the 80s as we just talked about all those movies I watched growing up and Rocky and Rambo being absolute staples in our household.
To get on a Zoom call with him, that's the only thing I was ever nervous about.
I've met a lot of famous people in the last couple years, and to meet him, that's the only one I was worried about kind of fanboying a little bit over.
But I'll tell you what, it was amazing.
I took my camera, and I was trying to catch a little photo of it, and I did, I got a few.
But he was kind, he was humble, he was wise, he was funny, and we just had a great conversation together, and what a fantastic guy.
And exceeded expectations.
All right, if you don't believe what we're saying about, you know, a megastar like Sly, I recommend one thing.
Watch any interview with him that's, you know, like behind the scenes making of.
This guy is really smart.
He's slick, he's smart, and he's super personable.
Very different from the characters he plays.
He's not a taciturn, you know, monosyllabic individual.
Very smart guy.
Check them out.
Let's get down to business.
The Twitter account is JackcarUSA.
The book I've received, my copy, came in a very, very special box.
I thought it was like somebody sent me something gun-related because it had these, you know, crossed axes, battle axes on the front, red tape, Only the Dead.
Inside it is this pelican box with the book, dedicated, custom leather bookmark, challenge coin.
This is the next book in the series.
It's called Only the Dead.
For those who enjoy The Terminal List, the TV show, the blockbuster with Chris Pratt, who read the original, what should they expect?
Because it's not exactly the same.
Something's a little bit different here.
Give a tease to our millions of listeners and viewers, Jack.
Well, hopefully I'm evolving as an author.
My goal is to always have the next book be better than the one prior, because I'm continuing to study my craft.
Just like in the military, I wanted to be a better leader and operator today than I was yesterday.
That's what I owed the guys I was taking downrange.
That's what I owed the team.
That's what I owed the mission, the country.
And same thing in this case.
That's what I owe my readers.
That's what I owe my listeners, people who are spending time with me that they're never going to get back.
And that's something I take extremely seriously.
So hopefully this is the best in the series and all indications from readers and from reviewers that that holds true.
But this one is a novel of truth and consequences.
And there's a lot of things that get tied up in this one that have been through lines throughout the other stories.
And this one is particularly brutal, but it goes into a Russia, U.S., kind of an oligarchy type of a situation that was established at the end of World War II in the summer of 1944, Bretton Woods Accords, where really the United States set the tone for what was going to be the post-war world.
And so I dive into that and how that relates to Russia-Ukraine today, and a few things that I think will surprise some readers who have just been paying attention to the news.
I try to put myself in the enemy's shoes as I go into these novels, and I find that very helpful, just like I did in the military downrange.
Do the same thing here, but of course, if I make a mistake in the pages of these novels, the consequences aren't nearly as dire as these are fiction.
But there's whispers of truth in this one, just as there are in all my novels.
Whispers of truth.
Hang on, I want to write that down.
I love that.
Whispers of truth.
Have you been to Bretton Woods?
I have not.
You should go.
Bretton Woods.
I've been there in the deep, deep forests of New Hampshire.
It's this history-making place, this massive complex.
It's a little bit like The Shining.
It's where the modern international system was born after World War II.
I strongly recommend.
You might want to have a book event there.
You might want to have a booking event.
I'm going to check it out.
I don't know why I didn't think to do that in the lead up to this book because I did so much research, but I should have gone there and walked the grounds.
I strongly recommend it.
So the author of The Terminal List, true believer, savage son, the devil's hand in the blood.
You've got to check it out.
The new book is Only the Dead.
James Reese is on a mission generations in the making.
Now I don't want to give away any spoilers, even to those who haven't seen The Terminal List, which has already been greenlit for season two.
Once those Lazy scriptwriters get off their duff and actually write some scripts, then we'll get to see.
It's super exciting to hear about the prequel series as well as Taylor Kitsch, a much underrated actor.
But, um, how do I do this without spoilers?
Let me just... The bad guys in the terminal list A real gut punch, that's all I'm going to say.
It's a kind of shock to the system.
For those who love America, it's a gut punch.
It gave it a real dark, dark feeling as an adventure story.
Are you keeping that in Only the Dead?
Are there going to be some dark surprises?
Or is the light v. dark a little bit simpler?
We're moving out of the dark and into the light, I think, both figuratively and in all actuality, and visually, I guess is the way to put it.
So the first one out of the gate is the Taylor Kitsch prequel origin story, which is going to be more of an international espionage thriller rather than a conspiracy action revenge thriller like The Terminal List was.
I think that's all I can leak out right now.
But if the first five scripts are any indication and I'm writing the finale, this one's going to be amazing.
I'm really fired up for this.
And then we roll right from that into True Believer.
So a lot of the characters that people have met in True Believer, they're going to be introduced in this prequel origin story.
So that's another little bit of news that I think I can, I'm safe.
All right, we're getting all the tidbits, all the great teases.
What about the new book, Only the Dead?
Does it have similar gut punches like The Terminal List had?
It does.
And I don't know if it says dark, but certainly more brutal, which is saying something if people have read The Terminal List.
But definitely more brutal.
It's my longest novel to date at 139,000 words, because for me, I never get to, let's say, 100,000 words and say, oh, time to wrap this thing up.
No, the story's gonna take however long the story takes to make it the best that it can possibly be.
And in this case, that was 139,000 words.
139,000?
Once you've done 50,000, you've got a book.
Whoa!
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Yeah, I have a Father's Day gift guide coming up soon and some of the books that I used for research for this last novel as well.
Oh, that's smart.
That's smart.
That's smart.
So what year did you start?
When did you write your first fiction book?
2018 is when it came out.
I started writing it December of 2014 when I was still in the military during my last couple years and then 2018 it came out and then one a year since.
That's amazing.
And what do you do?
Because my big challenge for writing books is all the distractions, you know, the phone, the email.
Do you just like go to a cave and just, you know, put everything in a Faraday cage?
What do you do?
Exactly.
I need uninterrupted, quiet time.
And so I have another computer that I just use for writing that doesn't have anything else on it.
So I get a new computer that's only for writing every single time.
So I leave this computer, my business computer, in another room and I leave my phone in another room and I just take that writing computer in to do the actual writing.
So I just need to find a place that is quiet and Or I'm going to be uninterrupted, which means no wife and children around.
So sometimes I've rented Airbnbs in town.
This next one that I'm going to start here in a few days, I'm going to go and use a friend's house in town and just right there.
Because there's too many distractions around the house.
How many kids have you got?
3, 17, 15, and 12.
Wow.
And I'm curious, are you one of these people that has this super endoskeleton?
Do you map out the plot, or do you just wing it?
I do.
I have come up with that title first, a theme that's going to guide the whole writing process, a one-page executive summary, kind of like a synopsis on the back of a book.
You've got your op order, right?
Exactly, exactly.
And then I take that, I turn that into the outline, and then I turn the outline into the narrative.
But I don't get hung up if I can't figure something out in the outline, because I know I have a full year to solve those problems.
And do you know what the end is when you start?
I do.
I do.
I like knowing where I'm going.
Wow.
And then, I'm sorry, I'm just so curious because this stuff fascinates me.
I've written three books but they're all non-fiction.
How much at one sitting can you write?
How many hours can you do on average in one go?
The closer I get to deadline, an absolute deadline, not the ones that I've already pushed, then I go, I pull all-nighters.
I did 5,600 words in my longest day, I think, this last time.
But if I get 5,600, too much.
Wow.
That was my record.
So do you go by word count or hours?
Word count.
What's your minimum at one sitting?
What do you want to hit?
If I get 900, that's great, but 2,000 is wonderful.
1,500, somewhere in there.
All depends on how much research I have to do as I get distracted as I go along.
So that happens as well.
Good stuff.
Good stuff.
Amazing.
Amazing.
All right.
One more segment.
We're going to ask what it's like to be a super famous author right now.
And we've got the video from Tulsi, right?
Yeah.
And you've got the image I sent, the picture?
Yes.
Okay.
And then I'm going to use the audio of the young boy, Alex.
Got that, Alex?
Got it.
Okay, alright.
Good stuff.
I still have two more pictures you sent me, actually.
Oh good, alright.
And I wanna have, do you have the image of the book?
Yeah, I have the image of the book and then the other image.
Okay, good.
Which one do you think you'll use first?
Oh, oh, oh, um...
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I don't think he can print them fast enough.
It is Only the Dead.
You've got to go to his website.
Official Jack Carr.
He was our inaugural, our first guest on the Manhood Hour.
You've got to watch that as well.
Jack, your timeline, as I said previously, so much fun.
One of the favorite guns in my collection.
It's from that Swiss manufacturer B&T Brugger & Tomet.
We're going to have Mr. Brugget on the show soon.
It's the TP9.
You were at a range recently with a suppressed TP9 and some book next to it.
I don't know what the book is.
Having super fun.
Why?
Because he's the real deal!
Who is Jack Card?
Let's just remind everybody, this is what he did in a previous life, going after an HVT, a high-value target, setting off on a mission.
He is a former SEAL.
He's a true patriot, a hero.
Gotta ask you the question, Jack.
What is it like to be Jack Kahn now?
Because a lot of SEALs come out, they write a book about, I killed Bin Laden, or I was the meanest dude hombre on the planet.
But you're writing fiction, and now you're like, you're an international name.
Sly Stallone wants to have Zoom calls with you.
How different is your life, Jack?
It seems pretty much the same.
I've always been busy regardless when I was in the military, before the military.
Now I've filled every second.
I try to maximize every second in life because we only get one ride on this planet and we get to decide how we're going to spend that time.
So I just feel busy like normal.
My wife and kids are completely unimpressed by any of this.
I shouldn't say that about my wife.
She's impressed by it.
But she keeps you grounded, right Jack?
She keeps you grounded?
They all do.
I don't think there's really a...
A threat of me not being grounded because I'm the, I have friends from kindergarten and first grade still that say I'm the exact same person I was back on the playground back then.
So I think I just, I'm just me and that's just how it goes.
But it is busy.
It is busy.
And I think I have to prioritize a little bit more because I have the next book to write.
I have my first nonfiction work coming out on the 1983 Marine Barracks Bombing.
That's coming out in about a year and a half.
We've got a few other things in the works on the script side of the house in Hollywood once that the writer strike is over.
So there's a lot of things on the plate, but I'm enjoying every second.
Wow, that's very exciting.
I can't wait to hear about your non-fiction book.
Please come back for a longer chat when that's ready.
Jack, I have to say one thing that we have to thank you and I think together Tom Cruise for is this recrudescence, this rebirth of not just celebrating excellence in America but also this utter rejection of the idea that being a man, being a warrior is bad.
This rejection of toxic masculinity.
There was nothing politically correct.
There was nothing woke about the Terminalist TV show.
And it was an utter blockbuster.
I've got to ask you in our last few minutes, does that make you feel optimistic?
Are the good guys winning in terms of understanding what it is that built this nation and celebrating those values?
I think if you were to look at social media or legacy media in general, it might be a little depressing, but knowing now just how many people, really between New York and LA, this sort of film resonates with, these books resonate with, I think that's a cause for optimism.
And I was talking to someone the other day who said you have to remain optimistic because otherwise you can't manifest that in the future.
You can't manifest a better future for our children and grandchildren.
One that honors the sacrifice of those who came before us to give us all these options and opportunities in this country.
So I've thought a lot about that, remaining optimistic, even as we get inundated day in and day out with a lot of the negative.
And there is a lot out there that are battling for control, essentially, of our thoughts and behaviors and essentially our souls.
And it's really tough on the kids.
But I do my best to remain optimistic.
And for this, it's really all about the story.
And when we sat down and talked about this with me and Chris Pratt and Antoine Fuqua and the showrunner David DeGilio, it was all about honoring the stories, staying rooted in the realities of modern combat and making a show for somebody who went downrange to Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 20 years.
So when they sat down on their couch and cracked open that beer and turned on the show, they'll know that we at least gave our best effort to make a show for them.
And if you look at how the critics thought of the show and what the audience thought of the show, that'll tell you that we succeeded there.
You absolutely did.
You absolutely did.
The new book is Only the Dead.
Get it right now.
I've got my copy.
Last minute with you, Jack Carr.
It's at JackCarrUSA.
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What is your message?
You've got 26 years in naval special warfare.
We see the assault on the military, the politicization of the military.
What is your message to those who are still in and are kind of battling against the wokery?
What would you say to your colleagues who are still in the uniform wearing the cloth of the Republic Jack?
I would say that the job is to be prepared for war.
So stay focused on that mission.
It's not to go to war, it's to be prepared if that call comes.
And you might go 20 years and that call might never come, or it could come tomorrow.
So your responsibility is to be as prepared as you possibly can and to prepare your soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines as much as you possibly can so that there's nothing left on the field training-wise when that call comes in.
Stay focused on that, and that's the job.
Be prepared for war.
Beautifully, beautifully put.
I can't wait for the next book, which may have, I don't know, a Winkler combat axe inside the Pelican case.
I'm just planting ideas there.
May up the tag price, but who knows.
In the meantime, you gotta read it!
The latest book, it's already a number one.
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What is the best title?
You were talking about Mount Washington, by the way, right?
Where Bretton Woods happened?
It's about 50 minutes from Mount Washington.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, it's the same area.
It's the White Mountains.
And it's like The Shining.
It's this massive hotel that's straight out of the 1930s, 1940s.
the 1930s, 1940s.
Okay.
Let's think of a really good title for that.
And I want Casio to do lots of clips from that.
Alright, what have we got here?
We never used the Tulsi clip, by the way, but we have... Oh, Tulsi clip!
We have Musk.
Patriot Mobile.
The guy who's getting his balls squeezed while he talks.
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, we've got to use Kirby.
Yeah, the Kirby-Jean-Pierre thing.
That's good.
Santus Warren putting out a clip from Trump's remarks in Iowa earlier today where he, you
know, reaffirms that he supported the vaccines but emphasizes he never supported mandates.
That was literally in their clip.
It's like, oh, this is proof that Trump is bad because he supported the jab.
And in the very clip, he says, I was never for mandates.
They can't even do their OPPO research, right?
No.
Such a bunch of amateurs.
None of it is gonna work.
No, of course.
Those are the only two arguments they have against them from the far right is, you didn't do anything for J6ers and you supported the vaccine.
Like, that's it.
And you can debunk both of those pretty easily.
The thing they don't understand is the base trusts Trump.
They don't trust anybody else.
Until you break that, they'll never get anywhere.
Ooh, let's have this discussion on air.
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Wasn't that good?
What did you think of that?
How did we do, Jeff?
Was that a good interview?
I mean, we sacrificed a monologue for Jack Carr.
I'm surprised as a writer how good he is, too.
He's very good, because most writers are not that good.
He's great as an interview.
Yeah, yeah.
He, you know, you could tell.
What was it?
How long ago did we start The Man Who Died?
What was that, like six, seven months ago?
I think we started in September.
Wow, he was like a little bit, you know, you could tell he was thinking about each answer, a little bit crafted, cautious, but no, that was great.
That was super.
Guys, super, super good books.
Check them out.
Has everybody on my team seen The Terminal List?
Okay, Eric, have you seen it?
Yes, it's in the top 10 for me.
Alex, have you seen The Terminal List?
Yes, it was great.
All right, Jeff.
Oh, this is a waste of my time.
Jeff, have you seen The Terminal List?
Not only did I see The Terminal List, I finished it before you did.
Oh, that's because it was made after you were born, right?
Yes, exactly.
The magic thing.
What about Gi?
Are we gonna get 4 for 4?
Unfortunately, I do not have an Amazon Prime account, so I'm not able to see at this moment.
All right, well, we'll have to get you the book.
You'll have to read the book, okay?
Will you read the book if we get it for you, Guy?
Yes, sir, I'll definitely read the book.
I want to know why I have somebody on my team called Guy.
Guy, okay, and why Dan Bongino has somebody on his team called Guy.
Isn't that a bit weird, Jeff?
I heard him say that today and I was wondering if our Guy was moonlighting for Bongino as well.
Ooh, because he does work a lot!
Maybe he's the Bongino Guy as well.
I'm going to ask Dan for a photograph of his Guy and we will find out.
I love getting these.
I always check stuff as much as I can live on air while we're on the show.
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I've read all of his books and seen the terminal list.
I'm thinking of doing them next year in my classroom with my students.
I think they would absolutely love it.
It's his writing profession.
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
How old are your students, Jenny?
Let's start there.
They're 8th and 9th grade.
OK.
All right.
OK.
Because some of his books are a little bit, a little bit heavy, a little bit heavy.
But yes.
The Tumblr list is not, though.
I mean, if they've been on TikTok, they've seen it all, right?
That's not a good excuse!
That's not a good reason!
We don't use TikTok as the measure of what we show our children.
Ah.
But they're eight and I... Some of... Most... Actually, all of my kids speak English as a second language.
Most of them are immigrants.
Alright, so why did you call today?
I don't think you called about Jack Carr.
No, but I just... I loved his interview.
The main reason I called is because every time I hear anyone talk, Trump has one massive argument that will trump DeSantis.
He was in the legislative branch and didn't get it done.
You can't complain about the border.
You can't complain about anything.
You had the power in the legislative branch to write the law.
He didn't get it done.
So is he going to rule by executive fiat?
Hang on a second.
Jeff, why does that left-wing loser keep dialing in and dropping?
I'm watching the call board.
Does he just have no staying power?
He's not been on it for a while, so I don't know why he keeps... Is he off his meds?
Possibly.
He is from Canada, so I don't know.
Alright, we'll have fun with him.
So, you're saying President Trump's argument should be because you're a three-term former congressman, why didn't you fix it?
Is that your argument?
Correct.
He had the chance.
Their job is to write the law, but if not, he's going to what, rule by executive seat?
Well, that's a very good question.
You won't believe, Jenny, what DeSantis' team just did.
We're going to give you an update next here on America First.
Stay tuned.
Thank you, Jenny, for your kind words.
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Alright, gotta play Kirby here.
Kirby cut six, yep.
After PhD.
And I might try and squeeze in Elon.
All righty.
One minute.
Oh, 515 for Bannon as usual.
Okay.
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They're asking for topics?
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Welcome back, dear friends.
A little bit of breaking news that I think is important to understand what America has become under the Biden regime.
The Chinese government has rejected requests for a meeting from the Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin.
Just internalize that for a second.
Communist China That is, buzzing our aircraft with their fighters is refusing to meet with our Secretary of Defense.
Another piece of breaking news, just so you understand the globalists a little bit better.
This is from my friend Lisa Daftari.
It's a tweet.
Unbelievable!
The Islamic Republic of Iran has been elected the vice president of the United Nations General Assembly.
Another honor at the UN for a barbaric regime that is trying to beat its execution record this month.
The United Nations has just made Iran the vice chair of the General Assembly of the United Nations.
Time for a little bit of America first.
Oh, not whilst this coterie is in the White House.
An individual from the New York Post, Steve Nelson, decided to ask the man who is, I guess, what is the right way to describe Kirby Jeff?
He's like, Karine Jean-Pierre is like, totally incompetent as press secretary.
So he's like, what, the official assist?
The white guy who has to help out?
He's a more accomplished liar.
He's a slicker liar.
He's a disgrace to the naval uniform, nicely put.
John Kirby's asked a question by the New York Post, and listen in the background to what Karine Jean-Pierre says.
Cut six.
Of course, evidence that the President interacted with his relatives, associates from China, Mexico, Kazakhstan, Russia, and Ukraine.
So what do you say to the majority of Americans who believe that the president is himself corrupt?
President the president the president's broken to this Yes.
So, I'm going to go ahead and close this out.
So, Kabul Kobe just shakes his head.
And in the background, and she must have said it pretty loud because she was nowhere near the podium, Corinne Jean-Pierre, the White House Press Secretary, takes the Lord's name in vain.
Yeah.
She's right there, in the front of the press briefing room.
And she takes our savior's name in vain.
That's who these people are.
Alright, let's have another update.
What's happening in DeSantis' world, Eric?
Can you tell me the latest you were telling me in the break?
So the DeSantis War Room Twitter account, with a little alligator in their name and everything, tweeted a clip that they think was a big own of President Trump, from his big appearance in Iowa just now.
Where he reaffirms his support for the development of the vaccines in record time via Operation Warp Speed, but then in that video proceeds to say, I have never supported mandates and I never will, and the audience applauds for that.
And they posted that as like, oh this is our opposition researchers, him saying he never supported mandates.
Hang on, they actually included in their post his statement that he was anti-mandate and they thought that was owning President Trump?
Exactly.
These are the amateurs we're dealing with in the DeSantis campaign, apparently.
Geoff, you said something about how this isn't gonna work.
Explain to all of our listeners.
I was thinking about it last night.
The problem is the base for decades now has been basically screwed over by the Republicans.
Yeah.
Politicians.
Like last night.
Right.
Trump has not done that.
The base trumps him.
The base trusts him.
Until you break that trust, it doesn't matter what they throw out there, nothing is going to happen.
No one is going to change their vote on Trump right now.
Because they trust him.
Who said this?
Somebody said this about a year ago.
The only person who could lose the base for Trump is Trump.
Exactly.
If you'd have to think that he's a typical politician, good luck convincing people that.
Okay, so here's the big question.
I want both of you to help me out here, Eric.
I hear this now and again on social media, and I want to know if there's some validity to it.
So, amazing, you know, record speed, Operation Warp Speed, I get it.
But I keep hearing this, President Trump has to come out against the vaccines and not pro-vaccine to win back the trust.
And I don't know what to do with that because he never said everybody has to take it.
He said it's your choice.
So let's start with you, Jeff.
What's your take on this?
He's got to disown the vaccines that he developed.
No, he does have to disown it because of the whole thing Eric was just talking about.
The vaccine mandates.
He was never for that.
He was never going to force that.
But I think when he talks about it, he doesn't need to be proud of it.
He is proud of the warp speed.
If it was a real vaccine that worked, that wasn't on him.
But what he did to be able to get that approved, he thought it was going to work.
It would have been something to be very proud of.
But it didn't happen.
Eric, your take.
Yeah, I get where Geoff's coming from there, and I understand, again, as he said, it is an accomplishment that they were able to develop three vaccines in his record time.
That's why it was called Operation Warp Speed.
But, I, at the very least, yeah, he doesn't have to disown it.
Just, he shouldn't talk about that.
He should, I, it's more important if he talks about, like, voter fraud in 2020.
Or the ongoing immigration crisis, or the war in Ukraine.
So you don't think this is something important that he has to address in the next year and a half?
No, there's no reason for him to address it.
It can only... I don't want to say it hurts him, but it doesn't benefit him to talk about it, I think.
Alright, and the idea, Geoff, that he debates or doesn't debate... We loved the primaries with President Trump.
Where do you stand on that?
I think it is almost a 99.9% chance that he is going to debate, because I think he loves the debates.
It's a negotiation tactic right now.
Because he wants to get what out of it.
He mentioned the first thing that Fox was going to have.
I think it was Cavuto and Bret Baier.
It was Bret Baier and somebody else.
He wasn't happy with who was going to be hosting it.
Come on.
I think it should be somebody impartial, like Sebastian Gorka.
What do you think?
I'd be happy with Caitlin Collins again.
That worked good.
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Do you think she'd even say yes?
No way.
Not after last time.
How did I even forget?
Oh my gosh, we gotta have some cut.
Is tomorrow Friday already?
Short week, yes.
Let's have fun on Friday.
I think we need to have a couple of reprises.
We have to have a couple of cuts from the CNN Town Hall just to have fun on Friday.
It's Second Amendment Friday.
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I don't know how many times we've had presidential nominees or individuals who want to be the GOP nominee for the president.
We've had my old boss, President Trump, lots of times.
But I'm super excited to have the sage of South Central, a man who managed to pack At least six hours of radio into three, the one, the only, Larry Elder!
Welcome to One on One.
Thank you so much for having me.
I appreciate it.
All right, so much to discuss.
Your run for the governorship, now your run for the presidency.
You have a new book coming out.
It's available for pre-order right now.
But we didn't rehearse any of this, so if you don't agree to these conditions, this will be the shortest hour-long interview in history.
I am not going to talk about any of those things unless you first Tell the story you've told me at least half a dozen times before of your father.
It was the bedrock for one of your earlier works, but it is such an American story, such a story also of the father-son relationship.
So if you can do it in just like a few minutes, tell us the story of how you found your father again and what the meat of that meeting was.
Well, I have two brothers, Seb, and neither of us liked my father.
We thought of him as mean, as an ogre.
He would pull out the belt and whip us for, I would think, for slight offenses.
We intensely disliked him.
And unfortunately, my dad starts a little cafe when I'm 10 years old.
Now I've got to work for the SOB.
And I didn't like working for him either.
He would yell at me when he thought I did things that were wrong.
Now I'm 10 years old, 11, 12, he's still yelling at me.
And when I say yelling at me, it's a little diner where everybody can see and watch what's going on.
Now I'm 15 years old. He's yelling at me.
And finally, I said to myself, next time he yells at me, I'm going to leave.
And he yelled at me and I didn't have enough courage to leave.
He yelled at me. I didn't have enough courage to leave.
Finally, he yelled at me and I walked out.
No one ever defied my father before.
In fact, that day, the waitress had called in sick and I left during rush hour.
So it was a house full of people when I walked out.
My dad came home that night.
Not too surprisingly, he was not amused.
He said, why did you leave?
And for the first time I defied my father. I looked at him and I said,
Dad, I got sick and tired of the way you spoke to me and I was not going to put up with it anymore.
My dad paid me $10 a day plus tips. He balled up the $10 that I lay on my bed,
threw it at me, walked out of my bedroom and said he and I did not speak for 10 years.
When I say did not speak, I mean did not speak. I'm not talking about
an occasional conversation here and there.
It wasn't even do you think it might rain?
How about those Dodgers?
We said nothing and I was able to avoid him even though we have a tiny house because I knew what his hours were.
I graduated from high school.
I go to college 3,000 miles away when I come back home to visit my mom.
I would just make sure my dad and I were not in the same room.
I go to law school.
Same thing now.
I'm 25 years old.
So we've not spoken to each other for 10 years.
I've graduated from law school.
I passed the California bar, the Ohio bar.
I'm working for a law firm where adjusted for today's salary.
I'm 25 years old, making about 175 K and I couldn't sleep and I knew it had to do with my dad.
Not that I ever thought we'd be friends, but I called my secretary and I said, cancel all my appointments.
I'm flying back to California.
I was living in Ohio and I'll be back in a couple of days.
I was going to confront my father.
I thought maybe we'd have a five minute conversation at the end of which I'd be able to sleep.
So I get to LAX.
I take a cab to the cafe.
I walk in there at 1.30.
I knew they closed at 2.30.
And this is the same cafe that you worked in?
Yeah.
Yes.
Same one.
Same one.
And I knew they closed at 2.30.
I got there at 1.30.
My dad, of course, was shocked to see me.
I had a big luggage.
He said, Laris, did I put your luggage in the back?
I said, no, dad.
I'm going to be here for 5 or 10 minutes.
I want to tell you something.
And so I sat there and he said, okay, wait till we close.
I sat there for an hour and I said, Sam, now Larry, don't tee off on the man.
Just tell him, tell him a few things that annoyed you.
He'll probably call you an ungrateful son.
You called him a bad dad.
And when you get back to Ohio, maybe you'll be able to sleep.
So my dad sat down and I teed off on him.
I told him everything he'd ever said, everything he'd ever done, every whipping, every spanking, everything, everything, everything.
I spoke nonstop for 20 minutes.
You know how I can go.
And after 20 minutes, my dad looked at me.
I was done.
I was out of ammo.
He said, is that it?
You didn't speak to me for 10 years because of that?
And for the first time, I saw my father cry.
He said, Larry, let me tell you about my father.
You know your last name Elder?
I said, yes.
He said, that's not the name of my biological father.
I said, what?
Who's Elder?
Elder was the name of some boyfriend my mom had.
She was irresponsible.
She was illiterate, had a bunch of different men she lived off of.
Elder was in my life the longest.
He was an alcoholic who physically beat my mom.
And when I tried to stop it, he would beat me.
And I came home, he said, at the age of 13.
And I began quarreling with my mom's then boyfriend.
She sides with the boyfriend, throws me out of the house.
Without a dime in my pocket, Larry, eighth grade education, I literally walked down a dirt road, asked in Georgia, Jim Crow South at the beginning of the Great Depression.
And I said, well, then what did you do, Dad?
And for the next eight hours, Seb, he told me about his life.
He joined the Marines.
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
At one sitting?
In one sitting, we sat for eight hours on two stools.
Every now and then he'd get up to use the restroom, I would get up to use the restroom, and people would knock on the window as they saw us sitting there, asking my dad if everything was okay, because normally he left around three or four-thirty.
We're still sitting there at night, it's dark, and people are walking by.
Brandy, are you okay?
Brandy, are you okay?
My dad said, I'm fine.
We sat and talked for eight hours.
And he got bigger and bigger and bigger, as he told me about his life, And I got smaller and smaller and smaller.
The reason he was angry all the time, Seb, because he worked two full-time jobs cleaning toilets, cooked for a family on the weekend, and went to night school to get his GED and also to take chef's training so he could learn how to run a restaurant, which is why the man never slept.
You try getting 15 minutes here, 20 minutes of sleep here, 45 minutes here, 15 minutes here, not day after day, not week after week, not month after month, but year after year, and you walk into a home with three rambunctious boys, how are you gonna feel?
So my dad got bigger and bigger.
Larry got smaller and smaller.
And finally, I'm crying at the end of eight hours.
And I asked my father to forgive me for judging him so harshly.
And he said, there's nothing to forgive.
You just didn't know.
Just follow the advice I've always given you and your brothers.
Hard work wins.
You get out of life what you put into it.
You cannot control the outcome, Larry, but you are 100% in control of the effort.
And before you moan and groan about what somebody did or said to you, Go to the nearest mirror, look at it, and ask yourself, what could I have done to change the outcome?
And finally, he told me this, no matter how hard you work, how good you are, sooner or later, bad things are going to happen to you.
How you respond to those bad things will tell your mother and me if we raised a man.
All of this I wrote in a book called Dear Father, Dear Son, Two Lives, Eight Hours.
It's available on hardcover, and the softcover is called A Lot Like Me, also both on Amazon or Barnes & Noble.
A Lot Like Me, the book is A Lot Like Me, A Father and Son's Journey to Reconciliation.
And after those eight hours, were you tied again?
Was the bond restored?
After those eight hours, the man became my best friend for the next 35 years.
My mother and I are really, really, really close.
If anything, my father and I became even closer.
He became my best friend for the next 35 years.
I was lucky enough to have reconciled with him.
When I wrote the book, Sam, I'm getting letters from all over the world, people telling me, I never sat down and had that kind of conversation with my dad.
I wish I had.
I've now reached out because of your book, and I reconnected with my father.
I now understand my dad better.
I had a World War II dad, too.
I had a Depression-era dad, too.
These men are tough.
These men are not touchy-feely related.
They're not Ward Cleaver.
And now I understand it from your book, so I think I've helped a lot of people heal their relationships with their father.
And I'm curious, the relationship of your two brothers to your father, did they ever get to the point that you got to?
My little brother unfortunately died almost 40 years ago.
He was diabetic.
My older brother had the same attitude and said, it's interesting you ask about that because after I had this conversation, I had dinner with my brother Kirk and I said, Kirk, dad's not an a-hole.
He's not what you think he is.
Oh yes he is.
No he's, oh yes he is.
I said, Kirk, Trust me.
Talk to him.
So about two weeks later, I'm over visiting my mom, my dad, and I said to my dad, Dad, have you heard from Kirk?
He said, why do you ask me that?
I said, I just wondered.
He said, funny you should say that.
Kirk called, we had a three hour conversation.
And my brother had a renewed appreciation from my father as well.
Wow, that's incredible.
You know, I've heard that story first couple of times I heard it.
I choked up.
It's such an incredible story.
I'm so grateful that you're willing to say it again.
But please, dear friends, get the book.
Softcover version is a lot like me.
I warmly, warmly recommend it.
A father and son's journey to reconciliation.
Or the hardback, if you can get it, is Dear Father, Dear Son, Two Lives.
And eight hours.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
We haven't even scratched the surface, but we've talked about the most important thing, the relationship between father and son.
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You want to be the president of the United States, dear Larry.
How dare you?
We'll talk about your campaign, why you're doing it, why you ran for the governorship first of California and did remarkably well.
But let's just have a little clip from the current, as one of my callers says, the current resident of the White House, who just a couple of weeks ago at a black historic university had this to say about the nation you wish to be the president of.
The stand-up against the poison of white supremacy, as I did my inaugural address to a single out as the most dangerous terrorist threat to our homeland, is white supremacy.
Larry, when I moved here in 2008, I chose this country.
I'm a legal immigrant.
The nation then elected, soon after I arrived, a black president for the first time.
I started working in government, in the defense department, and really, I didn't see endemic racism around me, and I, as sure as heck in the last 15 years, didn't see any white supremacists.
Will you help me out?
I know the LA Times called you the black face of white supremacy.
How does this happen in America?
Who's responsible and what on earth do we do about it, Larry?
Well, the reason Biden and the Democrats and the media say stuff like this is because some of them
actually believe it.
But a large number of them want black people to be angry, to be concerned about things like social justice,
however you define that, and equity, however you define that.
So they go in there like lemmings and pull that lever 90, 95% for the Democrat Party.
God forbid that blacks should start thinking about the poor quality of education inner city kids are getting,
or crime, or the inability to find a job, or inflation, or gas prices like everybody else.
They want black people to think of themselves as victims who are victims of racial oppression that's occurring right now in America.
And it's nonsense.
The organization that tracks extremists, one of them is the Anti-Defamation League.
Last year, 2022, guess how many people were killed by what the ADL described as extremists?
Answer, 25.
And five of them weren't even white.
As opposed to 11,000 blacks murdered in the year 2020, almost all murdered by other black people.
White people, at 62% of this country, commit a lower percentage of murders, a lower percentage of serial killers, a lower percentage of mass shooters, compared to their percentage of the population.
whereas Blacks, at 13 percent or so, commit a higher percentage of that,
of hate crimes as compared to their percentage, a higher percentage of robbery, of crime, of homicides.
So you can make an argument that the people, people ought to be afraid of are inner city Black people
who prey on the majority of law-abiding Black people in those cities.
In Chicago, this Memorial Day weekend, said 53 people shot.
That's a record.
And in years past, 75 percent of the murdered victims are Black, 71 percent.
71% of the murderers were black.
So, when is the NAACP going to issue a travel advisory to Chicago on the grounds that it is hostile to black Americans?
It is nonsense.
The three largest cities in America, L.A., New York, Chicago, all have black mayors as we speak.
We just now saw a Senate race pitting a Black Democrat against a Black Republican in Georgia,
for crying out loud, one of the states of the Confederacy in the Deep South where my
father was born.
My father told me he never even walked by the University of Georgia, which is located
in Athens, because he knew that there was no point in going by there and fantasizing
about going there someday.
Fast-forward, we have two Black men, one Republican, one Democrat, competing against each other
for a Senate seat in the state of Georgia.
And we're talking about white supremacy?
It is insulting.
It is nonsense.
And what it's doing is telling Black people, don't work hard, don't invest in yourself,
Don't go to school.
Don't get an education.
Because what's the point?
Sooner or later, some daftly white person is going to hold you back.
So why bother?
That's what's going on here.
And it's really quite detrimental to our country.
It is insulting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Please follow this man at Larry Elder.
He's got a pretty good game, especially on Instagram.
If you want to find out about his pretensions to the highest office in the land, you could do a lot worse than just go to his website, find out for yourself, LarryElder.com.
And I think you also have, is it a daily or bi-weekly Epoch Times podcast?
Is that correct?
Well, I did, but I ended all that to run for president.
Running for president is a full-time job.
And so I no longer do radio.
I no longer do TV.
I don't even write in my car.
But don't tell me you're not posting on Instagram, Larry.
Oh, I still am.
I'm still posting on Instagram.
I'm still posting on Twitter.
And I'm leaving tomorrow morning for Iowa.
I'm going to be there for around about six days.
I have an event in Portsmouth.
I have an event in Concord.
You know, I'm going to be camping in Iowa now for several months.
All right, it's LarryElder.com and also at Larry Elder, candidate for the presidency for the nomination of the United States for the Republican Party.
We'll discuss that and all so much more.
All right, let's start with the recent history, Larry.
People thought you were absolutely mental, insane, should have been put in a rubber room for wanting to become the governor of California, even if you could win.
Who wants to be the governor of California?
You did shockingly well.
I think Gavin Gruesome Newsome was worried at one point during that campaign.
Tell us why you took that first step to run for the governorship.
First I want to just slightly amend something I said earlier.
I'm going to be in New Hampshire in Concord and what's the other city?
Nashua, where Manchester?
Anyway, it's New Hampshire.
Portsmouth.
Portsmouth.
That's late June.
Tomorrow morning I'm leaving for Iowa and I'll be there for six days.
But back to your question about Gruesome Newsome.
He was scared bleatless for a while.
The recall part was in the margin of error.
And in came the dogs.
By then I'm talking about Barack Obama.
Joe Biden flew out.
Kamala Harris.
Bernie Sanders cut a commercial for him.
Elizabeth Warren cut a commercial for him.
I got outspent almost seven to one.
He had to spend 50% more per voter to retain his job than he did to keep his job.
I got 3.5 million votes, more than almost all the other 45 rival replacement candidates combined.
Hang on, when you're doing your radio show, your podcast, did you ever think that more than 3 million Californians would vote for you, Larry?
That's stunning.
When I got into the race, no one could have told me that I would have become the frontrunner, as I was right away, and my lead only increased during the eight weeks That I was in the race.
I was absolutely blown away by that.
I raised $27 million in eight weeks.
I was blown away by that.
That's more than all the money raised by the 45 rivals combined.
And some of those were quite wealthy people.
So we did extraordinarily well.
150,000 individual donors.
Half of them came from outside of California.
They didn't have business in California.
They weren't moving to California.
They had never lived in California, but they knew that how California goes, it would influence the rest of the country.
So that's why the race was so watched, not just nationwide, but also worldwide.
And is that why your new book is titled, As Goes California?
Is this a kind of lessons learned from your campaign?
Tell us a little bit about the book.
It's also a warning, what can happen to your state if Democrats get ahold of it.
Democrats control the Senate and the Assembly here in California.
They have super majorities, which means Republicans need not even show up
for work and they pass one job killing bill after, one job killing bill, one bonehead thing
after one bonehead thing, including setting up a panel for reparation for crying out loud.
They have all these soft on crime laws, soft on crime DAs.
We've got a huge homeless problem.
We have a huge...
Academic problem.
Our schools are rated near the bottom of all 50 states, even though we spend more money every single year because virtually half the budget is tied to education.
And we're getting lousy results.
For the first time in our state's 170-year history, Seb, people are leaving California.
We've lost about a half million people in the last two or three years, all under Gavin Newsom's leadership.
And this man thinks he wants to become president of the United States.
He's banned the sale of new gasoline-powered cars by 2035.
Ban the sale of gasoline-powered leaf blowers and lawn mowers.
Mandating that toy stores have a gender-neutral toy aisle.
Mandating that you have to take a course in ethnic studies in order to graduate from high school.
I could go on and on about the bonehead things this man has done.
And if you want your state not to be infected by that, California's a cautionary tale.
What often happens is when people leave California, and the primary reason that people leave is because they can't afford a house.
The average price of a home in California It's 175 percent above the national average.
And then they move on to Colorado or to Texas or Florida, and they still vote Democrat because they haven't connected the dots as to the Democrat policies that caused them to leave in the first place.
So, if nothing else, understand what's going on in California, so that when you leave California, if you leave California, you don't vote Democrat the way you did when you were living here.
The book is As Goes California, My Mission to Rescue the Golden State and Save the Nation with a Forward by the one and only Candice Owens.
Order it today wherever you get your books and then go to this man's website to find out about his plans, not for California, but for the nation.
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I'm Sebastian Gawker, former Deputy Assistant to the President of the United States.
This is America First one-on-one, coming to you from just outside the insalubrious, fetid, rank, malodorous, noisome swamp that is Washington, D.C.
from the reliefactor.com studios.
Larry, I need you to help me out right now.
I've asked my fellow Americans who are black this question again and again and again, and I never get the requisite answer that's kind of convincing.
It has to do with why black Americans vote almost exclusively for the Democrat Party.
I have no idea if this is significant.
There's somebody called Ice Cube.
I don't listen to rap, but he had this to say just a couple of days ago.
Let's play it.
There's like a stigma amongst like the African, African American community to like Republicans and stuff like that.
I don't know what's going on in the African American community when it comes to that.
You know what I mean?
Like black people have Supported Democrats, you know, uh, overwhelmingly for 50, 60 years and, and nothing has changed.
So something's got to change.
Well, that's a statement of reality.
For 70 years, the black American community has voted Democrat, and nothing's changed.
And then he says, something's gotta change.
I don't think people go into the voting booth thinking about, what did Ice Cube say?
But help me to understand the first part of that equation.
Why?
I can understand it for 10 years.
Right.
Maybe 12.
But for 60?
I mean, shame on me if I get tricked, not once, but, you know, a million times.
You know, Dr. G., Ice Cube is kind of an interesting guy, isn't he?
This is a guy from the L.A.
area.
Mom and dad stayed married, nuclear intact family.
He has a nuclear intact family.
In fact, he got on a bus to avoid going to the inferior local high school where he was living to go to a high school in the valley called Taft High, so he'd get a superior education.
My long way of saying what's happened to the black community is a breakdown of the family, and he is the antithesis of that.
What's happened is, the welfare state has incentivized women to marry the government
and incentivized men to abandon their financial and moral responsibilities.
So, now it is rare for a Black kid to enter the world with a mother and a father married
in the same household.
And this happened in the mid-'60s, when Lyndon Johnson launched the so-called war on poverty.
I think a lot of Black people are unaware of the damage that's been done to the family
because of that policy.
A lot of black people are unaware that the Democratic Party, of course, is a party of slavery, the party of the Confederacy, the party of Jim Crow, the party that signed the Southern Manifesto that was drafted after Brown v. Board of Education.
Ninety-nine Democrats signed it.
Two Republicans signed it, saying, we don't care what the Supreme Court says.
We're not going to integrate the schools.
A lot of black people are completely unaware that laws like the minimum wage have made black teenagers, who used to be more likely to be employed than white teenagers, now less likely to be employed than white teenagers.
I think a lot of black people have no blooming idea of policies like gun control, which were passed largely to make sure that newly freed slaves didn't get guns.
A lot of black people have no idea they have not connected these dots.
That's one of the things I intend to do when I get up there on that debate stage.
in August in Milwaukee to explain some of these things.
The Democrat Party is trying to convince black people that racism remains a major problem
when in fact they've got blood on their hands as far as the inequality
that they seem to be so concerned about.
Help me, look, you're on the debate stage.
You'll illuminate it.
Your new book will illuminate how these things have affected California and how this can presage things occurring in other states of the Union.
But for this to change, you know, one president can't turn around black culture in America.
So how is it going to change?
Is it the church Is it local leaders?
Is it local actors?
Do we have to have, you know, black Saul Alinsky's who actually care about families?
Give me some kind of scheme.
How are we going to make this community understand what the Democrats have done to them?
Well, I think that a president who happens to be black will do a great deal to enlighten black people and to make them realize that the Democrats are not acting in your best interest.
When Barack Obama got elected in 2008, both blacks and whites thought race relations would get better.
When he left, both blacks and whites thought they got worse.
He had a series of statements, of actions, that let everybody know that racism remains a huge, festive problem in America, and it's nonsense.
From the Cambridge police acting stupidly, to Vida's son, he looked like Trayvon, to saying racism is in America's DNA, to inviting Al Sharpton to the White House over 70 times, To embracing Black Lives Matter.
To having a AG, Eric Holder, who once said voter ID, which the majority of Blacks support, is an example of pernicious racism.
So, in my opinion, he made things a whole lot worse.
An insightful president who happens to be Black can undo a great deal of that damage.
And in the meantime, if that's from the top down, the second part of my question, talk to me about the role of those who are in the community.
I don't see, maybe there are some good examples, but I really don't see a groundswell of pastors, of community leaders saying, enough is enough, let's rebuild the family, let's have the concept of earned success inculcated into the black community.
How does that occur?
There are some black pastors who are saying these kinds of things, but you're right.
I'm very disappointed in the black church for not talking about hard work, accountability, owning up to the children that you bring into the world.
My toughest interview, when I ran for governor, Seb, was a virtual interview with around six or eight pastors.
And it was going reasonably well, until I told them that the number one problem facing the black community was not systemic racism, was not police brutality.
It's the absence of fathers.
And they went absolutely nuts.
Why?
Why was that a nuclear thing for them?
You tell me.
And I thought right back and I said, you people are role models.
You are people who have set the agenda.
And I'm giving you the number one problem facing the black community.
And I'm the bad guy.
I'm a sellout.
I'm somebody who has turned his back on the black community.
You have turned your back on the black community.
You are shirking your responsibilities.
As members of the clergy, you ought to be talking about the most central problem, which is the preservation of the intact nuclear black family.
And on your watch, it is broken down.
And not too surprisingly, they weren't terribly happy, and they told me they probably weren't going to vote for me, shockingly.
Incredible.
Actually, not incredible, absolutely bloody disgusting.
These are the people who have responsibility for their communities and they're angry at you for telling the truth about what's happened to their communities and what is in fact the most important thing that has harmed those communities.
It is families without fathers and especially young boys without fathers.
That's why we have the figures for crime and the murder of black Americans in America.
Sadly, Almost exclusively at the hand of their fellow black Americans.
We're talking to Larry Elder, a candidate for the nomination of the presidency for the GOP.
LarryElder.com is the website to find out more about his campaign.
The book is As Goes California, My Mission to Restore the Golden State and Save the Nation.
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Coming to you from the ReliefFactor.com studios.
All right, Larry, I'm in DC.
I'm going to ask you to do the elevator pitch, that swamp thing.
You've got, you've got, you know, what, 1,800, 160 million eligible voters in the elevator with you.
You have to pitch yourself to America, especially to those conservatives who remember the last black president
and were not too excited about what he did to the country.
So tell us why people should vote for you, especially conservatives.
Well, I think Republicans, Seb, are of two minds about 45.
There are those who love him, and there are those who love what he did as president, but fear for reasons that are completely, in my opinion, Unfair to him that swing voters, particularly female swing voters in the suburbs, would not vote for the man if he walked on water.
They would accuse him of not being able to swim.
Now, I don't know what to do about that.
Maybe someday they will develop a vaccine for Trump derangement syndrome.
But if you have lost friends because of Donald Trump, if you are no longer speaking to relatives because of Donald Trump, if you're walking on eggshells at work because of Donald Trump, Houston, we have a problem.
And the problem is, I love what Donald Trump did as president on the borders.
On judges, on cutting taxes, on especially cutting regulations, on supporting school choice.
But I have a concern, a fear, that, because of Trump derangement syndrome, he will not win a rematch against Joe Biden, and, in the event that Joe Biden is not the nominee, it will be Kamala Harris.
I think that so many people are invested in hating him for reasons that are completely unfair.
Does he have a right to be angry about the 2020 election?
Damn right.
He never said that there are good Nazis and bad Nazis on both sides in Charlottesville, but there are a number of Americans, no matter what you tell them, who believe that that's exactly what he said.
They think he's a racist.
80% of Democrats consider him to be a racist.
Never mind the best economy for black people.
Never mind funding historically black colleges for 10 years.
Never mind the First Step Act that allowed prisoners, about 4,000 or 5,000 of whom were black, to have their sentences reduced.
There were nine violent sentences reduced, an average of 70 months.
Never mind any of that.
A lot of Americans would not vote for Donald Trump if you paid them to.
And that's the risk I think we run if he's a nominee again.
And if you want somebody who's got his policies, strong personality, a fighter, knowledgeable, been writing about the size of government and what we ought to do about it for 40-some-odd years, I'm your man.
Find out more about the campaign at LarryElder.com.
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