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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Kayleigh McEnany: When Trump supporters go rogue
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So first things first to the American people, Washington is doing it again.
While you were celebrating Memorial Day, all of our men and women who gave their lives for this great nation, and you were spending time with your family and your friends, this town was cutting another crap deal that's going to put you more in debt with no real changes whatsoever.
So the American people need to understand full and well, do not listen to the talking points.
Do not listen to the cool phrases that are being thrown out in commercials on CNN or Fox or MSNBC, because Washington is lying again.
This bill has no cap in raising the debt, just a date in the future.
We have no idea what that number is going to look like.
Some people are saying $4 trillion, some people are saying $3.5 trillion.
This bill, in year one, might cut $12 billion.
If you just want to be generous?
So who here thinks it's cool to cut $12 billion in exchange for $4 trillion?
I don't think that's cool at all.
Sounds like the same old excrement to me.
That's Congressman Byron Donalds of Florida speaking on the steps of the Congress.
I think the voices like his are multiplying.
They are not satisfied with a deal that really isn't a deal and doesn't put a cap on anything.
I know it's D.C.
I know it's technical.
I know it's debt ceiling.
But it's about you.
It's about your family.
It's about our shared future.
So we're going to talk about it today.
We've got some amazing guests for you.
Don't go anywhere.
We've got the former congressman from New York, Lee Zeldin.
We've got my friend from Los Angeles, that warrior princess, Jennifer Horne.
We've got the one and only Jack Carr.
Yeah, the U.S.
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Who wrote that number one bestseller and then TV show blockbuster, The Terminal List.
He'll be with us as well.
And of course, you.
The number here for you to sound off is 833-33-GORKER.
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We'll be talking about what happens when a former Trump employee or Trump supporter decides
to go rogue.
Seems like the latest one is Kayleigh McEnany.
I've got some advice for the likes of Kayleigh and others who have chosen this path.
We'll give you updates about what James Comey is doing.
Why?
Joe Scarborough!
For two days in a row, seems to be endorsing the governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis.
Latest news of Tara Reid, you won't believe what the Biden accuser has decided to do.
And Ashley Babbitt's mother, arrested again in Washington, D.C.
But first, here's a little reminder of how you play politics.
How you do hardball with the swamp.
From the winter of 2018, when a government shutdown was threatened, was looming, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi went to the White House.
And unusually, the cameras were let in for their discussion with my former boss, President Trump.
And it did not go as Chuck Schumer expected.
Do you remember this scene?
Cut 12.
The one thing I think we can agree on is we shouldn't shut down the government over a dispute.
And you want to shut it down.
You keep talking about it.
The last time, Chuck, you shut it down.
No, no, no.
And then you opened it up very quickly.
Twenty times.
I don't want to do what you did.
Twenty times you have called for, I will shut down the government if I don't get my wolf.
None of us have said it.
You want to know something?
You've said it.
Okay, you want to put that in my... You've said it.
I'll take it.
Okay, good.
You know what I'll say?
Yes.
If we don't get what we want, one way or the other, whether it's through you, through a military, through anything you want to call, I will shut down the government.
Okay, fair enough.
And I am proud... We disagree.
We disagree.
And I'll tell you what, I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck.
Because the people of this country don't want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country.
So I will take the mantle.
I will be the one to shut it down.
I'm not going to blame you for it.
The last time you shut it down, it didn't work.
I will take the mantle of shutting down.
And I'm going to shut it down for border security.
But we believe you shouldn't shut it down.
Why not?
Why not?
What happens if this mystical deadline Janet Yellen gave us of midnight tonight expires?
What happens if we don't service our debt?
What is China going to do?
Not sell us the crap they sell us every single day?
Is the world suddenly going to switch to the Chinese renminbi or the Iranian shekel?
Are they going to say, yes, the Russian ruble is our currency and we don't need America to pay back their debts?
Really?
I tell you right now, nothing.
Nothing is going to happen.
Just as when government did shut down, nobody noticed.
Nobody who doesn't, as my friend Chris Plant says, suckle at the government teat.
Those who aren't overpaid bureaucrats in DC, they didn't notice at all.
In fact, if the government shut down for Six weeks or six months, they wouldn't know the difference.
So maybe it is time to play a little hardball.
This morning, I was listening to the latest coverage and seeing the hundreds of journalists breathlessly waiting outside the entrance to the Speaker's office with their cameras, their microphones, and their digital recorders, waiting for somebody to appear to give them an update on negotiations.
I thought, No.
I've had enough.
I don't buy it.
This isn't about Kevin per se.
Kevin isn't evil.
He's not bad.
He's not like Mitch McConnell.
He's not a Mitt Romney.
He's not an active saboteur of America First.
You can actually work with Kevin.
We've seen that.
But this deal, Kevin, is not the deal that we were promised.
The idea that we're 31, almost 32 trillion trillion.
Even the word trillion.
When did billion become passé?
When did that become a small rounding figure?
And now we talk about trillions.
Really?
32 trillion dollars?
And you think it's a success to only, only add four trillion, not billion, four more trillion to that?
You think that, ooh, it's the biggest cut in expenditure since, since what?
Well, not before COVID.
Because under COVID, under the cover of COVID, the Democrats Wrote checks for billions and trillions of dollars.
Money which hasn't even all been spent and we can't even claw that back?
And the one thing that everyone can relate to after what we saw being done to the Tea Party Patriots, to even Matt Taibbi who dared to be the point person reporting on the Twitter fights for Elon Musk on the censorship and targeting of conservatives, the day, the day He testified in Congress, the IRS knocked on his door, and we couldn't even get the 87,000.
87,000 new agents!
Do you realize that's more special forces soldiers?
We have 60,000 special forces soldiers in America.
All told.
Special operations, all of them.
That's more than we have special operators.
The ATF gets agents?
And this deal is a success because we can't even stop that, despite that being part of the deal?
No, I'm done.
I'm done.
Kill the deal.
Play hardball like President Trump.
See who blinks first.
Because I tell you what, it'll be that senile old man in the White House.
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Okay.
Give him line three.
Uh, you can call, um, Lee in a minute.
Oh, and I'm going to need B-roll of, you know, all the, the Carthy, Byron Donalds calling, talking, stuff like that.
I was going to be talking about the debt ceiling.
Yeah.
Hi, who's this?
Patrick?
Yeah.
Hi, Patrick.
What's your question or comment?
I think you are a smart man, and I think you know very well that this is not the same, default is not the same thing as a government shutdown, and you're lying to your listeners.
Right, so what's the difference?
Tell me, oh great sage, what's going to happen if there's a default?
You're telling me... No, I asked the question.
What is going to happen if there's a default, oh wise one?
What's with the pregnant pauses?
You call a show and you can't even talk?
Hello?
Has your brain fallen out of your nose?
You're lying to your listeners.
Answer the question, you moron!
What's gonna happen if there's a default?
You guys are such cretins!
You call a national show and you don't even know what to say.
Oh, you're a liar.
I ask you to counter that and you can't because you're a clinical imbecile.
I'll give you one last try.
What's going to happen the day of the default?
Cuckolded moron.
Goodbye.
Alright, give that to Casio.
Oh, OK.
OK.
OK.
Mic's are on.
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It's a very special anniversary today.
20 years ago today, this young man took the oath and was commissioned as a second lieutenant in the United States Army.
I think, given the photograph, I think he must have been commissioned at the age of 12.
Let's ask him!
Former congressman from the great state of New York, Lee Seldin.
Welcome back to America First.
Hey Sev, it's great to be with you.
How old were you when that photograph was taken?
I was about 12.
Yeah, I got commissioned into the United States Army.
It was actually, I was 23.
When I started law school, I wasn't even old enough to drink yet.
Every Friday they would do wine and cheese at the law school, but they wouldn't even serve me.
But the same day that I graduated law school, May 31st of 2003, was also the day that I was sworn into the United States Army into the Military Intelligence Corps.
A very special day and, you know, 20 years since and I'll continue to serve.
I have reserve duty this weekend.
Wow, that's incredible.
Military Intelligence Corps I, a little bit different, served in the British Intelligence Army Corps many moons ago as a reservist.
We wish you a very, very happy anniversary.
We're delighted to have you on the show.
Let's talk about what's happening on Capitol Hill because you've seen inside the sausage factory.
When you have these kinds of negotiations, what's really happening?
Are both sides acting in good faith?
Is it just a Mexican standoff until the first person blinks?
Can you give us some insight from inside your life on Capitol Hill as to what these things really are like?
So the first real interesting context to keep in mind is how this has gone the last many times out.
You wait until it's the day that a debt limit is about to be hit, and then someone says, oh, the spending is out of control.
We have to do something about it.
And the response is, well, we can't do anything about it this time or we'll default.
There's not enough time.
We have to do this right away.
And then they end up increasing the debt limit with no reforms.
What they did right this time, Republicans did right on Capitol Hill, was that the House Republicans said months ago that there was a debt limit that was going to be coming up in June.
We need to start talking about this right now.
Democrats said no, they were going to do the same play call.
There was going to be a quote unquote clean increase to the debt limit.
And they said, you know what?
You wouldn't even be able to pass the votes yourself.
So what did the Republicans do?
They passed their own bill.
They showed that they had the votes.
Good faith versus bad faith?
It was bad faith for President Biden and the White House until that moment that the House Republicans actually passed their own bill.
Now, all of a sudden, the Democrats say, let's talk, let's negotiate, let's see what we can come up with.
And this is what they came up with, with the people trying to, you know, the Democrats have their goals.
They want to protect their priorities.
The Republicans have their goals.
And they ended up actually working out something other than what is just a quote-unquote clean debt limit increase, which is a lot better than what's happened the last few times out where they increase it without doing anything to bring spending back under control in Washington.
So what do you think is going to happen?
We opened the show with Byron Donald saying, I can't support this.
We've got cuts from Lauren Boebert saying she's not going to support it.
Is the White House going to blink first?
Is Kevin McCarthy going to blink?
What's your prognosis?
Well, I would guess that it passes, that it passes with Republican and Democrat support.
If I had to take a guess, I would imagine it's going to be a majority of the House Republicans and a sizable block, potentially even a majority of the House Democrats.
It even might be a large majority of both.
That's what I'm sure both sides, both parties are having a whole lot of conversations.
You have people who are Hard nose.
You know, you just referenced a couple of those people.
And then there's people who might be saying that they're undecided, that they wanted to read it first.
You know, it's different this time around versus a lot of what I was used to during my eight years in the house, is at this time it's only 99 pages.
I would get these bills that would get voted on instantly, not 72 hours later.
I mean, it would be voted on Right away it would be, you know, a thousand, two thousand, three thousand page bills.
This is good progress for the house.
They're functioning better that it's a 99 page bill and they're giving 72 hours to actually read through it and ask questions.
So, you know, kudos for that part of the process as well.
But there's an important lesson to be learned for the future is that if you see something that is six months ahead of you, You can't wait six months to start talking about it.
You have to start talking about it right now.
Yeah, this shouldn't have surprised anybody.
We're talking to Lee Zeldin, follow him at Lee Zeldin, former congressman for the great state of New York.
We've only got a minute left with you, but since it happened in New York, we played yesterday this Fatima Mohammed commencement address at the City University of New York.
Which was anti-Israeli, anti-American.
Do we just think that this is just par for the course at a college in America, or should there be consequences?
This is par for the course at the City University of New York, and it's unacceptable.
This is a taxpayer-funded university that needs to have an administration overhauled.
They should have a culture that welcomes All Jewish students, all Jewish faculties, as opposed to being pushed out to the exits, you should be able to enjoy a commencement address without having to listen to that crap and just be able to enjoy the moment.
I think it's disgusting.
And you're starting this, and the CUNY administration's spoken out.
I saw Mayor Adams put out a statement.
Where's Kathy Hochul?
Where's Joe Biden?
Joe Biden just put out his anti-Semitism strategy, is what they called it, just before the Memorial Day weekend.
I want to see more people speaking up, but my position is, until the administration is overhauled and all Jewish students and faculty feel welcomed, taxpayer funding must be, the funding must be immediately suspended.
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Send that.
I want to post that caller.
Oh, the one on the break?
Yeah.
Well, we can't get it at the moment.
We can get it after this hour.
Yeah.
You see that Fox headline just now?
Pence is going to be... I saw that.
I saw that.
That's great.
Come in with Boba.
Come in with Bobur, cut seven, no liner.
Got titles in mind.
Zeldin.
Defund Kuni for its antisemitism.
Yep.
Monologue and or Larry.
Oh yeah, perfect.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll put it under here.
Thank you.
Two minutes.
For Larry and or the monologue.
Monologue.
Big thing was like Trump and how he handled it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um.
Mmm.
hmmm...
Be like Trump on the debt ceiling.
Alright.
And then Larry.
Debt ceiling.
Go maybe incorporate the story of his father or otherwise the whole California thing.
Um.
One minute.
Reconciling with my father and running for the presidency.
Oh, we need to make a poll.
A new one?
Yeah, what do you want to, uh... The last one was about the Santas and his disastrous campaign launch.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you trust Kevin McCarthy... You can leave the camera open, just leave it on.
Do you trust Kevin McCarthy negotiating for America?
All right.
I trust him.
You You
Thank you.
The bill Biden negotiated fuels inflation, adds trillions to our debt, and leaves a blank check for more of the same nonsense I came here to stop.
I am not for an unlimited debt ceiling increase.
As presented today, I'm voting no.
That's why I'm pushing right now to make sure this new bill is allowed to be debated and amended, if not killed entirely.
We did not fight to fix Congress only to watch another last-minute bill that spends trillions of dollars be shoved our way for a vote without debate and without the ability to offer amendments to it.
Very hard to disagree with Colorado's Lauren Bobert.
This is not what we voted for and that's not what the 20 negotiated with when they agreed that Kevin McCarthy could become the Speaker.
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Let's go to your calls.
Ted in Yonkers, line 2.
Hey, Sebastian.
Great show.
I love listening to you.
Thank you.
So yeah, they had me at 87,000 Gestapo agents, and then they moved on to want to boycott because of the old people in all of these stores that only sell Chinese products.
And then I remember that Donald Trump, thank God for Donald Trump, stopped the UE Corporation from having a total, total control of this 5G coming into our country.
And as far as that CUNY professor, right?
And the same day Kurt Cameron was kicked out of the New York City Public Library for trying to preach Christianity, the Muslim community, and I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed, won a debate, or not a debate, they won permission from New York City Police Department to go above the required decibels to have their call for prayer in Jamaica, Queens.
So I don't see the fairness in any of this.
Well, of course, the only group you can attack are Christians, especially Catholics, if you look at what's happening at Dodgers.
By the way, it wasn't a professor, it was the student, Fatima Mohammed was the student.
But yes, there's only one group you can target, it's Christians.
Or you can make it white male Christians, that's the number one target.
Thank you, Ted.
Let's go to Nicole, Tennessee.
Nicole, Dr. Gorka.
Yes.
Hey, Dr. Gorka.
It's good to finally talk with you.
Um, I think I've been listening since you started.
Um, but I wanted to talk about how to deal with, uh, Trump supporters who are going anti-Trump.
Yes.
And honestly, I think we should just probably ignore them.
Um, you know, he's way ahead in the polls and I feel like the people in the media and the former campaign people who are coming out against him, Of course.
Oh, hey, stay on the line, Nicole.
Nicole.
Of course.
And at the end of the day, you know, these people can try as much as they want to get
ahead, but they will never get ahead as big as yours, you ugly creep.
Oh, hey, stay on the line, Nicole.
Nicole.
Nicole.
Why did she drop off?
Oh.
Oh, they're so sad.
They have to go ad hominem.
So pathetic.
Let's go to a real woman.
Antoinette, California!
Hey, Dr. G, what the hell is it with Kevin McCarthy?
Is he a man or a mouse?
I am a serious Latina here in California.
I am so angry.
What the hell is wrong with that man?
We have time.
Dr. G, if I were to run my company like this person is doing, he has no guts.
He has no fight.
That's why I'm not a Republican anymore.
I'm a conservative capitalist.
And I am so angry with him.
And I'm with Warren.
And that's it in a nutshell.
I love you guys and I love you Dr. G. Get out the word.
We cannot agree to this at all.
They're just using him and this is a ploy.
We've got till August.
What the hell is this thing with June tomorrow?
What are you afraid of McCarthy?
And that's it.
Wow, you are on fire, lady.
She's bringing it, she's Antoinette.
Yeah, there's a point in which you say, you know, it's about America.
It's about the future of our nation.
You've got to show some fortitude, some valour, some courage.
And what we're seeing right now, too much of it smacks of politics as usual.
And there's a reason that what happened in 2016 happened.
There's a reason that the 20 held out earlier this year for four days.
That reason is because Americans have had enough.
God bless you Antoinette.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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Social media is an interesting thing.
I just got a direct message from somebody I'm not familiar with.
It's Congressman Tom Tiffany who just sent me his tweet.
He's 7th District of Wisconsin and I guess we should get him on the show.
He's on the Judiciary Committee.
And this is the tweet.
I retweeted him instantly because I like the sentiment.
The latest debt limit deal is a missed opportunity that adds $4 trillion to our national debt, keeps $1.2 trillion in unreliable green energy giveaways.
You know who's going to get those giveaways.
and forces 87% of Americans without federal student loan debt to pay for those who have federal student loan debt.
That's why I, Congressman Tom Tiffany, am voting no.
Looks like the numbers are growing.
What does it mean for the economy?
What does it mean for you?
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Welcome back to America First.
Thank you for having me today, Dr. Gorka.
All right, so I'm just going to read a couple of headlines here that I want you to help me decode in terms of if people are looking for a little bit of stability, what they should be thinking about in these very perilous times.
So the CBO, this is the Congressional Budget Office, has said that the current debt ceiling deal will only cut the debt by one and a half trillion.
And here's the little footnote.
Over 10 years.
So we already owe almost 32 trillion.
We're going to shave off one and a half, but it'll take 10 years.
What does this do to the market?
What does it do to interest rates?
How concerned should we be right now?
No, I think that this is, number one, I don't know that this is going to pass.
I think that that's a wing and a prayer that this actually gets through.
I think there's a number of people standing up against this deal.
That, that sinks it.
But number two, as this, you know, national debt continues to increase and increase, you're going to see inflation continue.
You're going to see interest hikes continue.
This is the bill for federal spending.
People often say, well, if they're spending that, you know, if the national debt's increasing, how does it affect me?
Well, you're living it right now with the type of inflation that we're seeing.
We're seeing another headline.
This is from my friend John Nolte at Breitbart.com.
Punishing Biden inflation has, this is shocking, one in six retirees considering un-retiring.
I mean, that's not a good sign, is it?
No.
And, you know, let's talk about why you have one in six retirees un-retiring.
Number one, the investments that they have in the stock market are being pummeled.
We can pick up the market on any given day and see over the last 18 months what's happened since this administration took over.
The second piece to this is after their investments have been pounded, now they're going to the store only to find that their grocery bills 10 and 15 percent higher on top of all of the other effects of inflation and their other spending in their life.
So, you know, they have to un-retire because they can't get the kind of return they need to sustain a lifestyle.
Yeah.
So how can you help if people are worried about seeing what's happening with their 401k, seeing what's happening with their, you know, investment on the stock market?
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No, we specialize in the alternative space, specifically in real estate investments involving multifamily assets.
So investing in an apartment complex.
You know, I have lots of clients that say, I've always had an interest in real estate.
I want the appreciation.
I want the tax benefit.
But they don't want the 2 a.m.
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Right.
That's where we step in.
And our investors come through us into our fund and we buy apartment complexes across the southeastern United States in predominantly red states that are landlord friendly.
Our fund pays an 8% preferred rate of return over a five year capital placement on top of operating profit splits above and beyond that.
Do you have to be an Elon Musk to be part of this, to buy, you know, a whole apartment block like you're offering, Stephen?
We do not.
You do not.
And all we need to do is sit down and do a brief financial analysis of what you are, talk about your needs, what your risks are, and we can put your capital to work in a secure investment.
We're in a real estate investment.
It is a physical structure that holds value, that gains appreciation.
You know, there's a great statistic about this inflation and what it's done, and it bodes well for our investment.
The gap between homeownership and permanent rentership has never been larger.
The average house payment right now is $833 a month more than the average rent payment.
Being invested in rental real estate Is a secure way to place your capital to receive an 8% preferred return on an annualized basis.
So as the non-economist, let me translate that into English.
More and more people are going to need more and more rental properties and you're in the business of helping people invest in that kind of property.
That's exactly right.
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Just saw Kevin McCarthy come out of a meeting on Capitol Hill.
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Hey, good afternoon, Dr. G. You know, we're sitting around, we were hoping that Elizabeth Holmes, before checking into the Fed Hilton, could have given Kevin McCarthy some man voice training.
We need a speaker, not a squeaker.
I mean, I want to put this very nicely, he hurt us all.
That's as nice as I can say it.
Does she have a manly voice?
I can't remember.
Yes, she would talk like real low because it was like proven like mentally that like men would be attracted to that.
They were just into their oodles and goodles of money.
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Oh, that's very smart.
I like that.
We have to think of what to put under George Washington, but I like that image.
God bless you.
Thank you, Phil.
Let's squeeze in one more call.
Let's go to Brent in Los Angeles.
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Hello!
Hello!
Sorry to be on the phone today.
That's alright.
I heard you're a very important person today.
I'm doing my civic duty.
Are you going to have to actually do it or are they just calling you back in?
You're talking to currently juror number two.
Now I can't win the lottery, but apparently I can win the jury lottery.
Um, they've just missed a round of people.
So now we have to go back in and see if they're going to keep who they're going to keep and who they're going to get rid of.
But it's kind of fun because they all know I'm a talk host.
So that's adding an interesting element to the discussion.
I bet it is.
How are you doing?
Good, good.
I'm kind of pissed off at the whole debt ceiling thing.
I know, it's all annoying.
It is.
A wasted opportunity.
Alright, we'll keep you for one segment and then we'll let you go.
No problem.
Did you see that story I sent you, by the way, about the little girl who's being called a bigot because she won't talk about, like, crazy lesbian sex acts?
I sent it to you with that poll.
Oh, okay.
That's an interesting one.
And there's audio.
It would not be bad for you guys to cover it.
We used it and it's not getting a lot of attention.
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The co-host of The Morning Answer, AM 870, AM 590, our good friend on the West Coast, Jennifer Horn.
How are you doing?
I am doing fine.
Sorry to not be in my usual setup with you today, but you know, I haven't talked about it on The Morning Answer, but I will confirm to you, because you give us breaking news on The Morning Answer all the time, that I am indeed on jury duty this week.
I can't tell you what it's about.
No, no, no.
Only Democrats for women can do that.
That's exactly right.
Only Democrats can do that.
That's it.
So, as a good upstanding conservative, yeah, I've been going through this process, which is not my first time, and it's been very interesting.
I have so many notes that I've been taking about what goes on within the court system.
All right.
Well, I can't wait to hear afterwards.
Keep us posted.
In the meantime, it's not a California story.
It's a national story, but I want to hit it.
This morning, I decided I'm done.
I'm just done.
I'm fed up.
I've had it.
Even if Kevin McCarthy's a nice guy, the idea that we're almost $32 trillion in debt, and this is a deal we're supposed to celebrate that adds another $4 trillion, I say, no, forget it.
Just walk away.
Yeah, I look at it a little differently.
Certainly, it's not something to celebrate.
I'm with you on that.
We had such a great opportunity.
To get more to ask for more political opinion is on the side of Republicans.
And I think in many ways, we let that go.
And that's really, really disappointing, especially when you talk to our mutual friend, Stephen Moore, who says he really believes that the debt ceiling limit probably wouldn't have even been raised or met until August.
So there was all this pressure to get something done by June 1st.
And then you see the proof in the pudding.
Well, then it's June 5th and maybe June 7th and they keep pushing it along.
I think that was always a false deadline to put the pressure on Republicans to cave, obviously.
I look at this as just a missed opportunity, sadly.
I don't think there were any great wins for Republicans in here.
I think there was some subtle losses.
Um, but I don't, I think it could have been much worse because we're in a situation where you've got Biden sitting in the White House.
He's the one that's got to sign the deal.
You've got Republicans in a narrow majority or excuse me, a narrow minority of Republicans in the Senate, and you've got all sorts of factions in the house going on.
I just don't know realistically, unless Republicans get serious about showing up and winning more elections.
That we've got to continue to grow our leverage, because it is a really tough position.
I don't admire where Kevin McCarthy was having to do that deal, but we could have, I think with a little more fight and a little less fear about polling, done a little bit more, especially when it comes to the IRS agents.
I know we've defunded them for the year, essentially.
But that was such a sticking point, I think, for conservatives because we know that those agents are going to be looking for us.
They're not going to be looking for Democrats.
So it's unfortunately, I think it was more of a missed opportunity than a great loss or a stellar win.
Yeah.
We spoke last week about the Dodgers, about how they've reneged on their commitment not to insult Catholics, and they've re-invited this drag queen, just absolutely sacrilegious, blasphemous group, the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.
They've been lambasted by the Washington Nationals pitcher Trevor Williams, But it seems as if this bowing to the small minority mob is infectious.
I want to play a clip for you.
This is from the Toronto Blue Jays pitcher Anthony Bass.
It's gone viral.
He retweeted a post in solidarity with Catholics, and it seems as if he was taken to the woodshed.
And this sounds like a hostage video.
This is a grown man saying, oops, sorry, cut 10.
I recognize yesterday I made a post that was hurtful to the Pride community, which includes friends of mine and close family members of mine.
And I am truly sorry for that.
Yeah, the ballpark is for everybody, especially if you're making fun of Christians.
I apologize with them.
And as of right now, I'm using the Blue Jays resources to better educate myself,
to make better decisions moving forward.
The ballpark is for everybody.
We include all fans at the ballpark and we wanna welcome everybody.
That's all I have to say.
Thank you.
Yeah, the ballpark is for everybody, especially if you're making fun of Christians.
That is like a guy who walked out of a Maoist re-education camp, Jen.
Yeah, it definitely sounded like a hostage video.
and how sad.
You know who I would never see do something like that?
I would never see you, Seb, make a video like that where he says, I guess I just need more education.
I mean, I feel sorry for the guy because obviously he just didn't have the strength to say, no, I am not going to apologize for that.
And I love That the left constantly says, well, baseball is a game for everybody.
We need to be inclusive.
But their inclusivity includes hate for people that don't agree with them.
One person I'd love to turn your attention to is a guy named Blake Trinan, who is a pitcher for the Dodgers.
He's on injured reserve right now because he had shoulder surgery.
But he came out with the most beautiful statement, I thought, about how sports should be entertainment.
And enough of all of this political stuff, enough bowing to the ideology, baseball
should be an escape place for people.
And he said, I will never Jesus Christ died for me first, before I am a baseball player,
which I feel blessed to be Jesus Christ died for me. And he put that I mean, he put together this
beautiful statement, I wish I had it in front of me. But definitely check it out.
Has he paid any penalty?
Not yet. But it just came out. And we'll see.
He's on injured reserve.
We'll see if there's any repercussions.
I think the Dodgers will let their players actually speak because they're in such a terrible position, which with the archdiocese of Los Angeles now, I think that their players are going to be able to speak unscathed.
But I am proud of conservatives as much as we could have done better in Congress with the debt ceiling and all of that.
How cool is it?
That conservatives, and forget that, people of faith, rational people and sane people, have played the game the Democrats play, which is getting involved with using our money as power.
You know, as much as I hate cancel culture, if they're going to play that game, we get to play it too.
And the Dodgers and Target and Budweiser and baseball will be feeling that.
And it's the only way that we can get the message across that this kind of kowtowing down to one slice of the population is no longer acceptable.
Did I hear you correctly that the L.A.
Dodgers are concerned about what the Catholic Archdiocese thinks of them?
Oh, I think they know how badly they've stepped in it.
I think they realize that they bungled this.
I think they're praying, pardon the pun there, that it's going to go away because the Dodger fans primarily are Hispanic.
the majority of the fans are Hispanic. Most Hispanics are Catholic or Christian, and they
have gotten themselves, they know that they're in trouble.
So I would be surprised if you see them tamping down. Plus the players on the team, I would say
over half of them at least talk very publicly about their faith, being Christian in some form. I
think they know they're toast.
And so we'll see what they do. I just, I would have a hard time believing that they are going
to try to punish any of their players at this point, especially because the leader of the team,
Clayton Kershaw, has come out first and maybe loudest saying that there needs to be people
of faith days, that they need to have faith and family time, and that he was disappointed
with the Dodgers' decision.
But will there be any economic ramifications?
We've seen that Target has lost $10 billion in market capitalization in the last week.
That's the only thing they really care about, isn't it?
It is and I don't know if the Dodgers are going to they obviously want to keep their credibility up in the community for sure.
I'll be interested to see if they take a hit because I know a lot of people that I've talked to said we still love the Dodgers team.
We still love watching baseball, but we're not going to Dodger Stadium anymore.
And so I'll be curious to know if they take a hit when it comes to attendance or concession. But my thought is, the power is in
organizing here. Even if there is one game that Dodger fans who are upset by this chose to boycott, think
about the statement that that would make to baseball in general and to the entire country and to the
world. This is where our power is.
We need to figure out how conservatives can do more of this, how sane people can do more of this
to get our voices heard so that people know that they can't just continue to push and push and push
these wild leftist ideologies.
Let your voices be heard, or rather your empty wallets not be shared.
If you are in Los Angeles, tell the Dodgers what you think.
We've been talking to Jennifer Horne.
She has to get back to her civic duty, but you can always follow her at Jennifer Horne, also CRN Digital Talk, host of the Morning Answer, AM 870, AM 590, the answer I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First, coming to you live from the reliefactor.com studios, just outside of the insalubrious, fetid, rank, noisome, malodorous swamp that is Washington, D.C.
Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, don't touch that remote.
I guess.
Yep.
All right.
I sent the video of that caller from the break to Casio.
Oh, good.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Title for Jen.
Say something Eric Uh, yeah.
Title for the Gen segment.
Um...
L.A. Dodgers, will anyone pay a price?
Angel tree.
Yeah.
Let's use the little boy talking about his Father in Heaven.
I'm going to put the little boy on the table.
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Eric, have you been following the Contre-Temps, the little storm in a teacup between President Trump and Kayleigh McEnany?
Yes, to my knowledge.
Apparently she read out the results of a poll putting him against DeSantis in the primary that I guess she left some details out or got... She got the poll figures wrong by about 10% or something.
That's right.
President Trump called her out on that on Truth Social, applying the nickname Kayleigh Milk Toast McEnany and criticizing her for it.
And your take on it?
I think, again, you look at the pattern of things that she has said recently, this has kind of been coming for a while.
Way back in November, like after the midterms, but before the runoffs in Georgia and what have you, she was on Fox imploring President Trump to delay his 2024 re-election campaign announcement, saying, oh, this is going to hurt Republicans, this is going to hurt Hershel Walker.
So, of course, that's a media, mainstream media talking point that is not true.
But there's people have now been digging up clips of her back in 2015, 2016.
Where she had some not-so-great things to say about then-candidate Donald Trump.
So, I think it's all kind of come full circle at this point.
Jeff, what's your take in all of this?
Because a lot of people who are alleged conservatives are saying, Oh no!
President Trump shouldn't do that!
He shouldn't criticize a former employee!
I think Kaylee, like what Eric was saying with the clips against Trump before, then when she was working for him, she was the pro-Trump, now that she's kind of taken the fox stance, the pro-DeSantis, anti-Trump.
She's young, she wants to be in this a while, and she's just kind of following the smart thing to do politically if you want to work here forever.
Yeah, she's doing the swamp thing.
I thought about this long and hard.
You won't find any statements of me trashing President Trump, even before I was employed by him.
It took some getting used to his style, but I realized he loves America and he's doing it for America.
So I sat down this morning and I posted this on all of my social media accounts.
Today's life tip.
If you worked for or supported a president, and suddenly decide not to support him and support someone else you should number one explain why you worked for him or supported him in the past two why you're now supporting someone else otherwise
You look like just another sleazeball.
It's not a political statement.
It's a bit of advice.
Think about anything.
Think about a person who you were friends with, a company you frequented, you supported.
If you've supported somebody, if you've worked for somebody, that means you've bought into that culture, that message, that vision, that mission.
If you jettison that person, if you jettison that relationship, that value system, that set of standards, that mission, and suddenly support somebody else, Cayley, or Steve Cortez, I'm looking at you, or all the numerous DeSantis surrogates out there who are big, big MAGA supporters, And you don't explain it and justify how you took the King's shilling, how you worked in the White House, how you were so pro-America First, so pro-President Trump, and then suddenly you're not?
Well look, you have every right to support whoever you want or to support nobody.
That's the American way.
But if you're a public figure, and if you choose somebody else who's competing against your former boss or the person you supported, and you don't explain it, and you're a public figure, I'm just warning you, you're gonna look like scum.
You're gonna look like a sleazeball.
You're gonna look, as Mr. G just said, like an opportunist.
If you can explain yourself, good.
Then people will judge you on the merits of the explication, the justification that you've given.
If you just flip on a dime, what are we supposed to think?
Did you take that prior job dishonestly?
Were you not really part of that team?
Did you do it just to tick a box on your resume?
I like Kaylee.
I like Steve Cortez.
But I'm giving you a bit of advice.
Justify your actions as a public person.
As a private person, you can do whatever you like.
But as a public figure, as a paid individual working for Fox, or now a surrogate for Ron DeSantis, you really owe it to your own reputation.
Forget about owing it to anybody else, to President Trump, me, or anybody else.
You owe it to your reputation to explain why you've done what you've done.
Because otherwise, the only conclusion we can draw It's that you don't have principles.
That it's just about a paycheck.
It's just about your political survival in Washington DC, in New York.
It's not a good look, Kaylee.
It's not a good look, Steve.
You can do whatever you like.
We're all grown-ups.
It's okay.
But at the end of the day, a word of advice.
Loyalty is important.
Not in and of itself, but because of what it says about you.
You can leave the camp.
You can run over to another camp.
It's okay.
If you can't justify it, well, guess what?
We will draw the requisite conclusions.
A little life tip.
I should do life tips more often.
What do you think, Eric?
Should we have more life tips from Dr. G?
Life tips from Dr. G, the doctor's prescription.
I love it.
The doctor's prescription.
Very good.
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That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A-STORE.COM It's like you can do whatever you want, but you're gonna
look like a scuzzball.
Yeah, and like you said, when they do it without any explanation, it just sends up all the red flags.
Like, again, like, the paid influencers.
I mean, I'm not saying Mackinac is paid, obviously, but...
The ones who are.
Yeah, totally.
Thank you.
Alrighty.
Oh, we have Mr. Terminalist up next.
No.
Oh, is he D?
D and E. Oh, okay.
D and E. Almost.
Got a little excited there.
I didn't even realize they were doing a prequel series apparently.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
With one of the characters who was very popular.
Yeah.
I remember that same actor was the one who played in the Waco miniseries.
He played David Koresh.
He did?
Yeah, yeah.
Totally unrecognizable between the two shows, but yeah.
That was him.
Taylor Kitsch.
Right, right, right, right.
I think my favorite bit is that apparently the governor of North Dakota is gonna run for president.
Who?
Doug Burgum?
Are you kidding?
First time I heard his name pop up, he vetoed a couple like anti-trans bills a little while ago.
He vetoed them?
Yeah, vetoed them and then recently passed some more finally that the legislature passed with such majorities I guess they were going to override him anyway.
Someone nobody's ever heard of.
Exactly!
I love when these people just come out of the woodwork.
It's great.
Amazing.
Like the mayor of Miami might run?
Like literally who?
I'm going to use some of the Komi cuts.
Komi is going on all the shows.
2 and 4, not 3.
2 and 4, not 3.
PhD.
Come in with 6.
Come in with 6.
and four not three PhD okay come in with six come in with six no liner
why do they have to pass a vote on the floor as to whether it can go to the
A vote on a vote.
Oh my gosh.
Parliamentary procedure.
your parlor pro as my friends at college would say.
And I'm going to do that.
I'm going to do that.
you you
you And I'm just wondering, Ron DeSantis goes the traditional
route.
He goes the alternative route.
He knocks on doors.
He shakes hands.
You know, he didn't go down any golden elevator, escalator, to announce he didn't do what Ted Cruz did and went to the biggest, you know, evangelical group of people he could find.
He announced in an Iowa church.
Talked to him there, shook hands, and did it in sort of the old-fashioned way.
He did things Donald Trump will just never do.
That's Joe Scarborough.
He can't even get right his promotion two days in a row of Ron DeSantis.
If I were Ron DeSantis, if I'm getting promoted by Joe Scarborough, there's a problem.
He announced it in an Iowa church.
Eric, where did Ron DeSantis announce his presidency or his candidacy?
I was pretty sure he announced it in a very, very glitch-ridden Twitter space.
Yeah, which is not traditional and isn't efficient and isn't impressive.
He was 30 minutes late.
It only happened a week ago.
How did you forget, Joe?
Because you're not interested in facts because you're a hack.
Friends, summer is here.
Are you ready for the beach?
Are you ready to put on your summer wear?
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For months he's disappeared.
He couldn't be found anywhere, even on social media.
Now he's back, trying to pretend he's some kind of beatnik.
In his black bomber jacket and his black turtleneck, he's the former disgraced, fired director of the FBI, Jim Comey, who's rather good at gaslighting, making you doubt what you know to be true.
Cut to Jim Comey.
Gallup showed that in 2014, 62% of Republicans had a favorable view of the agency.
Now it's 29%.
What can be done to correct that?
And what if it doesn't change?
What happens?
Well, it will change.
The FBI will be fine in the long run.
This fever around Donald Trump and the MAGA world will eventually break, but it's become somehow a nutty article of faith that the FBI is out to get Republicans.
If you'd asked people 20 years ago whether that would someday be the accusation, they'd say that's nuts.
It's nuts, but it will pass.
It's nuts.
It's nuts.
It's a, quote, nutty article of faith that the FBI's out to get conservatives.
Really.
Here's a list of some conservatives.
Carter Page, Paul Manafort, Mike Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Peter Navarro, Steve Bannon.
I guarantee you, Jim Comey can't give you an example of one Leading Democrat who was treated like any of those I just listed.
The nutty fever dream?
How many Democrat presidents or former presidents have had their homes raided by that agency?
By the FBI?
But it's not enough.
He continues.
Cut 4.
Donald Trump is the leader of a cult who has radicalized his followers, and dealing with a radicalized populace is incredibly challenging, because it's so hard for someone who's been defrauded and radicalized to walk away.
I get why so many of his followers want a memory hole January the 6th, because those images whisper to those people, you fool, look what you did.
And that's too painful for most humans to deal with.
So they memory hole it and they go deeper into the cult.
That's a phenomenon we've seen in Islamic radicalism.
That's a phenomenon we've seen in religious radicalism.
It's an enormous challenge.
The most important thing is that we as a free society use our votes to make sure the cult leader is not returned to a position where he can really do damage to our country.
Yeah, you use our votes after the FBI got involved to suppress a story about the president's son, Hunter Biden.
What do the votes matter if the FBI is tipping the scales?
And we're the cult that are like jihadis?
Are we the people that believe the Russia collusion hoax for six years and still believe it?
We're the cult.
Are we the people who believe if a 14-year-old girl has her breasts removed, she's suddenly a male?
We're the cult?
We're the people who think that a nation should have borders and shouldn't have a hundred thousand people die from fentanyl overdoses in a year?
But we're the cult?
You're a disgrace, Jim Comey.
Sooner or later you will pay.
You will stand in a dock in a court of law.
And you will pay.
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My good buddy Eric Bolling has one of the evening shows on Newsmax and I think I was on it last night.
We were waiting for Kevin McCarthy to make a speech and Eric was on fire.
Cut eight!
My buddy Eric.
McCarthy had all the cards.
He held the Trump card.
He could have held off for, I don't know, something in return.
Instead, the only thing McCarthy got was a clawback to the COVID funding that was yet to be spent, and that is absolutely small potatoes.
He can and will plunge America $4 trillion plus deeper into debt, and we get no real spending cuts or limits.
And Biden and the Democrats keep almost full funding to hire those 87,000 more IRS agents.
What is so sad is that Speaker McCarthy let the guy who can't even find his way around a stage just take him to the cleaners.
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He's on a roll now, finally after making it official on that Very, very glitchy Twitter space with Elon Musk, but the governor of Florida is doing the rounds.
He went on a not exactly very MAGA podcast yesterday.
This is, of course, Ben Shapiro, Ron DeSantis, talking about how he thinks the nomination for the candidacy to be the presidential candidate for the GOP should work.
Let's listen to the governor and Ben Shapiro.
Cut five.
Now, President Trump has threatened to not participate in any primary debates, assuming that he will sort of be appointed by acclimation.
What do you make of his threats not to engage in some sort of primary debate with any of the other candidates?
Well, look, I mean, I was I'm a blue collar kid.
I started working for minimum wage.
I learned very early on I'm not entitled to anything.
You got to earn it in this world.
And I think this nomination is something people have to earn.
Nobody's entitled to be nominated.
And so I intend to earn it.
I think those debates are an important part of the process so Republicans across the country can can size up candidates and see what they think.
I look forward to participating in them because I think we've got a great story to tell and I think that the contrast between me and some of the other candidates I think will be favorable and I think it'll help us win the nomination.
Who's us?
Help us?
Is he talking in the first person plural?
Help us win the nomination?
That's a bit strange.
Look, you've heard me say this for months here.
I want to have as many people involved in the primaries.
I thought 15-16 was super, super fun.
We had, what, 18 people on the stage.
President Trump defeated all of them.
But the idea that he has to earn the nomination.
The person has to earn anything in terms of even being considered Is somebody who has no national track record.
I mean, I think you've got things backwards, Governor.
President Trump doesn't have to prove anything.
Why?
Because he's the only person on that stage who will have actually been a president for a full four years.
You haven't.
Mike Pence hasn't.
He's only been a vice president.
Ambassador Haley?
Just the United Nations ambassadorship.
Oh, and Chris Christie, by the way.
Chris Christie.
He says he's running for the presidency.
Man, does he have something to prove.
Yeah, the only person who doesn't have to demonstrate they have the skill set is the person who's already achieved the highest office in the land.
The challenge is for people like you to demonstrate without ever being president that you have what it takes.
Now he says, you heard him right there, he says I'm looking forward to the debate.
Eric, do you think that's a wise thing for him to say?
What do you think is going to happen on the debate stage when Ron DeSantis comes up against President Trump?
He is absolutely not prepared and I think again it's going to be comparable to when Kamala Harris was on the rise in the 2020 primaries.
She had clobbered Biden in the one debate, she was rising the polls, and then Tulsi Gabbard in like 60 seconds just ended her campaign right then and there.
I think it's going to be something on par with that.
What do you think it's going to be?
I'm curious, because you follow all this stuff very, very closely.
What do you think is going to be the Achilles heel?
I think President Trump always knows what buttons to press, and there are certain things, certain neuralgic points, when it comes to the governor of Florida, that if President Trump goes there, it's not going to be good for Ron.
I think at the end of the day, it's that DeSantis is not his own best salesman.
He can't really sell himself.
Every candidate's job is to promote themselves, and obviously President Trump does that better than anyone else.
The DeSantis campaign's PR strategy up to this point is to hire a bunch of like, you know, conservative e-celebs to do all the promoting for him, but then when you listen to him actually talk, he just regurgitates the same basic talking points, sounding like a boring think tank panel, you know, like the Twitter space.
You put him up against someone who obviously knows a thing or two about showmanship and knows how to sell himself and his policies like Trump, it's just, he's going to completely fall apart because he can't be his own messenger at the end of the day.
But beyond that, remember the press conference after the leaks of the Alvin Bragg indictments, that Monday press conference from Governor DeSantis, where he showed that kind of petulance, where he had to make the hush money for porn stars comment not once but twice and then say, Oh, this isn't really important.
I'm going to focus on Florida.
That's what really made him look bad.
That kind of childish petulance.
I think President Trump will be able to bring that out of him, don't you?
I absolutely agree.
I mean, we saw how annoyed he gets when, you know, when asked about being Trump's VP, which is something that anybody would jump on.
Anyone would be clawing at the chance to be Trump's running mate.
And he's like, I'm more an executive kind of guy.
You know, I'd rather not be a vice president.
So yeah, just the right little bit of poking and he's gonna lose it.
I'll tell you one thing.
We have to thank President Trump for many, many things.
Securing the border, defeating ISIS, making us the strongest economy we've ever, ever been.
So much more.
Lowest unemployment for minorities since record-keeping began.
Lowest unemployment for women since the 1960s.
But beyond that, two massive things.
Showing up.
Showing up the media.
for the fake news industrial complex that they are.
And then secondly, if you go back, it wasn't long ago, it was like six, seven years ago.
Making politics fun again.
That's what he did.
Yeah, the prime when they fun again.
Absolutely wasn't just Boring, usual Washington DC, by the numbers, sausage factory grind.
It was actually enjoyable.
I'm looking forward to that again.
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Who doesn't like getting surprise packages in the mail?
Two weeks ago I arrived at home and there was this cardboard box sitting there with very unusual packaging tape and a very strange symbol.
It said, only the dead on the tape.
And then two crossed axes, combat hatches.
That was the clue!
And then I opened it.
Man, I gotta up my game.
In it was a pelican case, bright red, a book signed, dedicated by the author, a custom leather bookmark, a challenge coin.
Oh man, who could it be?
There's only one guy like it in the world.
He's former SEAL Jack Carr, and it's the latest book from that individual.
It is Only the Dead.
And he's here right now for a little tease.
Jack Carr, welcome back to America First.
Thank you so much.
Great to see you as always, and look what I have right here.
Oh wow, that sounds... I think I know that guy.
That's a pretty good book.
That's why we fight.
Serious business right there.
Alright, I don't have it in a Pelican case.
For my fourth book, I don't know.
I'm going to have to give away Winkler Combat Hatchets with the book or something.
All right, we've only got a few minutes with you.
We're going to try and get you back later in the week.
Give us a little tease.
I've read the promotional material.
I've read the first chapter.
This is unlike the terminal list.
Give us a little bit of a sense of the world that you have given for us in your new book.
Well, this one, each of my books has a different That first one was revenge without constraint.
The second one was a story of violent redemption.
This one right here, this is a story of truth and consequences.
And I'm sure whether intentionally or not, it was influenced by our withdrawal from Afghanistan and really 20 years of not holding senior level military leaders accountable like they had been in World War II, George Marshall in particular.
Keep holding those leaders accountable and putting people into spots who could do the job.
And so this one, Truth and Consequences and Accountability.
Something that seems to be missing.
When we reorganized our intelligence apparatus and military in 1947, we seem to have lost that accountability side of the house.
So this book was a very therapeutic one for me to write.
And albeit a completely fictional narrative, it is certainly inspired by a lack of accountability at senior levels.
Well, he's the author of The Terminalist, True Believer, Savage Son, The Devil's Hand.
This book has already rocketed to number one.
You need to follow him at OfficialJackCarr.com and at JackCarrUSA on all the social media platforms.
We're also super excited, Terminalist Season 2 has also been greenlit, and I'm super excited for the Taylor Kitsch Ben Edwards spin-off.
When can we expect that?
Are those in the works right now, Jack?
They're in the works, but there's a writer's strike, of course, and they're dealing with the streaming issue and the AI issue, two very large issues that need to be worked out.
So, as soon as those issues come to some sort of a negotiated settlement or conclusion, then we'll get back to work on these scripts.
We're at about script 5 out of 7 on this Origin Story series with Taylor Kitsch right now, and then we'll start filming.
Soon thereafter.
So it's looking good.
I'm not a union member.
If you need a hand, you've got my cell phone.
In the meantime, right now, everybody go out there and order Jack Carr's Only the Dead.
You won't regret it.
And we're going to get him back for a longer chat later this week.
Follow him at JackCarrUSA.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
Next up, the Manhood Hour.
But don't go anywhere.
You're welcome.
I'm glad you're here.
Welcome, dear friends, to The Man Who Dined with a very special guest, an individual who's Almost as hard to get on the show as President Trump.
In fact, he might be harder to get on the show than President Trump.
He's a man who's reinvigorated one half of the political spectrum in just the last few years.
I consider him a dear friend as well.
And let me show you that being a man isn't just about, you know, chopping down trees and taking out the trash.
It's also about dealing with congenital liars.
And this is how it's done.
Most of you live in either New York or Washington, like I do.
The neighbors around me, I'm sure, would agree that Brett Kavanaugh should not be on the Supreme Court.
When I talk to Americans in the red states, or any other place besides this corridor, or Hollywood, when you talk to other Americans, they have a much different impression of what's going on with this Supreme Court nominee.
A responsible media should characterize... To be fair, though, most Americans don't want him confirmed.
That's not right.
To be fair, most Americans in the polls... That's not right, Brian.
That's not right.
Go ahead.
Brian, that's not right.
I just looked at a poll walking in here where 53% of the American people favor Judge Kavanaugh.
You can't pick one poll and make it seem like that is where the American people are.
Don't do that.
Real clear politics looks at at least all the polls.
But you should say that the American people are split on this.
Don't say the American people oppose them.
Because that's when people say you don't have credibility.
The truth on CNN?
I'm shocked.
Who was the purveyor?
Well, one of those people doesn't have a career anymore.
The other one is flourishing more than ever.
He's Matt Schlapp.
He's the chair of the American Conservative Union.
Never invited back with Brian.
Oh, and you're surprised!
Yeah, I never invited back.
That was like, don't tell the host that his poll, we got it, like, the numbers reversed.
They don't want you back.
Yeah, when I was on Addison Cooper's show for the first and last time, I told him on air, look, I know it's tough that more people watch Scooby-Doo reruns on the Cartoon Network than CNN, which is just a fact.
He didn't take it well.
The truth is, our friend Chris Platton says, you want to get in trouble in this city, tell the truth.
Right, Matt?
Totally right.
Okay.
Welcome to The Manhood Hour.
So much to discuss.
I've got a raft of questions that I ask all of our guests.
Let's start with the basic one.
How serious, if you had to diagnose, like from a medical perspective, how serious is the ideological assault on the concept of manhood in America?
You can do Western civilization, Christendom, I know you're a man of faith.
How bad is the situation, Matt?
You know, you're saying health.
I guess, you know, I've never had cancer, but they say stage 4 cancer is, like, pretty serious.
Deal Hudson, who is my co-author on a book I wrote about some of these topics, and he's a great golfer.
I'm not.
But he said, hey, what hole are we on?
And I was like, I don't know, 16, 17?
You know, we're at the tail end of this fight.
We're either going to win it If we win it, you know, there's a lot more holes to play.
If we don't win it, it's over.
And I'm not saying that because I'm a doom and gloomer.
I'm saying that because you can't have like a Main Street retailer like Target, you know, hugging Satan.
And even the tranny stuff, which is bad enough, but like hugging Satan as a part of the marketing of all this?
Well, will you just expand upon what you said in the green room earlier?
Because this topic came up of transgenderism and the left's obsession with sex.
And you made a very interesting point that kind of helps us explain or understand that which cannot be understood.
It's all a fantasy and a fiction, right?
This idea that, oh, you're not satisfied with your gender, you're not sexually satisfied, so we'll give you, you become a different gender, you'll screw up all your parts, and then you'll have the satisfaction.
And the cruel joke of these people that transition is there's really no sexual satisfaction.
They destroy their sexual lives forever, permanently.
Right.
And besides, I don't know how old you are, Sebastian.
I'm 55.
You know, it's hard enough to, like, not get up in the middle of the night and go to the bathroom.
And I haven't had any kind of, like, crazy complicated surgery.
So these people are, like, screwing with God's biology in every which way you can imagine.
But sexually, if they believe that the number one goal of a human being is to be sexually satisfied, they're literally making it so that these children never can be.
And the courageous ones, like this young woman, Chloe, and the other ones that are now speaking out over the fiction and the fraud and the lying associated with this, they're heroes.
No, utterly, utterly.
The de-transitioners like Chloe who I saw, I met for the first time in the green room at CPAC this year.
Oh my gosh.
The fact that this woman was so nervous to speak at your massive event, but she did it anyway because it was so important to her.
But you missed the most important part of what you said earlier.
So let's just paint this kind of Monty Python-esque Absurdity that the left's been telling us from the 60s, you know, sexual revolution, sexual satisfaction.
And then the transgender thing comes up and says, well, if you want to be satisfied, you define who you are.
Let's lop off your sexual organs.
You'll never have satisfaction in sex anyway.
Tells you what about all of this?
Tells you it's satanic.
The complete illogic of it tells you this is the devil's work.
Whenever there's a massive lie associated with something, the prince of lies is behind it.
And that sounds to me like, you know, preacher talk from the TV.
I probably wouldn't talk like this 20 years ago, but now I'm older and I've kind of seen what's going on and we better talk like that and call things out or we're gonna whiff and miss our moment.
That point that you just made, I feel like that and I'm embarrassed because I talk now the way I heard Fire and Brimstone, I'm a cradle Catholic, you're a Catholic, but I speak now about these issues like I heard Evangelicals 30 years ago.
They're coming after our children!
And I kind of say, calm down, calm down.
But they were right.
They were right, and the thing is, is that we've all kind of soft-pedaled evil in society.
We've called it tolerance, acceptance, and the problem is with evil, is evil isn't like pro-choice, for instance.
Evil doesn't say, oh, I'll respect Sebastian in his life, and I'm just gonna, I'll, evil will just stay over here with the people that wanna, like, wallow in evil.
No, no, no, no, no.
Evil is like cancer.
Evil is like pollution.
It seeks to get into your life and to screw with your life, and so our accommodation with evil can't work.
In the American experience, it was never to accommodate evil.
Ever.
The founders, to a person, they were religious people.
They were God-fearing people.
And they understood the problem with slavery, they just knew they couldn't solve it and be independent, they had to solve it later.
They understood it was bad, but they knew they had to solve it later.
Even people like Thomas Jefferson from Virginia, you know, the most important southern state, they understood that, as I like to say, that the country was being born with a birth defect, and they knew that birth defect could be cured Yes.
one day. They knew they couldn't. Their choice was know America and keep kings in charge,
which was certainly not a good system for anyone, including slaves. Remember, slavery
was rampant. And they decided that they would try to set a course, a country with a constitution
that in the document, they set it up so you could repair the birth defect.
What a beautiful thing.
And we forget that was a declaration of independence from a king that gave you next to no rights unless you were a nobleman.
Think about that.
That was an amazing thing.
And now we fast forward to today.
There's more slavery today than there was at the founding of America.
There's more human trafficking.
There's more young people being sold into lives of bondage.
Where are the voices of the progressives and the left?
Where are those feminists when it comes to transgenderism?
Where are they?
Well, you know, they're more than you think.
I mean, when I see what people like Billie Jean King, ironically one of my former bosses in life, I ran a tennis team for her.
Oh, no way!
Yeah, yeah, really interesting lady.
More conservative on economic stuff than you'd ever imagine, but obviously not on these cultural questions.
But, you know, you see these women.
I'll take my mom.
She's 82 years old.
You've met her at CPAC.
She was a fabulous tennis player.
She was a tennis instructor.
She was nationally ranked.
a women's tennis player and you know she was a basketball player.
It was hard.
She was a, you know, women did, girls didn't get the gym, they didn't get the fields.
Then they did through Title IX and now they're watching it all getting taken away.
Yeah, but by the people who say they're there for the oppressed.
Yeah, and this goes back, let's go back to this question that we raised earlier, this
transition question.
The idea that someone can change their gender, which you can't.
You used this word to me when I got into some trouble on saying that they're all children of God, which I do believe, and I know you believe too, it's just that they're doing something God doesn't want.
And, you know, gender's immutable, you told me, and that's exactly right.
Like, this is a fiction that you can change, and now you can change the physical, you can change your physical impression of it.
But here's the thing, the crazy thing about all of this, which is, Kills your ability, ends your ability to have children.
Men can't have children.
All of this evil is destroying everything that's good.
No flowers bloom.
Nothing good comes out of this.
Nothing good.
And the lie about, oh, it's to save those who are contemplating suicide.
Between 40 and 55% of those who transition attempt suicide.
So even that is a lie.
Oh my gosh, so much more to discuss.
We've only just scratched the surface.
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Matt, you've reinvigorated, if we have time, I'd love to talk about the flowering that you have caused at the American Conservative Union with CPAC, the place that patriots go every year to just recharge their batteries.
You know so much of the political evolution in America of late.
If you had to identify the center of gravity, where is this assault coming from when we look at the ideology?
Whether it's denying womanhood, attacking men as toxic, where's the most important locus of this?
Is it the media?
Is it Hollywood?
Is it the teacher training colleges?
Is it the radicals who became the professors?
If you had to identify, you talked about stage four cancer, where did the cancer begin or where is it metastasizing from the most in your opinion?
Well, to me, the biggest shift is that, as I said earlier, I'm 55.
I was a congressional staffer.
Not that many decades ago, there was a time when roughly we would call it the business community.
What a dumb term that is, but that's really what we called it.
And the business community in the Republican Party had this uneasy but pretty tight relationship because business didn't care about culture.
Business cared about getting rich.
And Republicans liked most of that, but they also had value.
So Republicans stood up for some value questions like the Bill of Rights and the right to life of the unborn child.
So it wasn't a perfect relationship, but everything a business needed to get done from a financial standpoint, if it was about deregulatory policy, the Republican Party was their party.
So in the Newt Gingrich era of 1994 on, it kind of started to get tight.
And as soon as, you know, when we lost this battle over George Floyd and Black Lives Matter, why did we lose it?
Because when we went on even conservative TV, they didn't really want to talk about Black Lives Matter.
They want to talk about Antifa, right?
Now, Antifa is a big problem and it's a real organization.
This is not a fiction.
But those protests were animated by Black Lives Matter.
And who funded all that?
Well, that's all those Arabella group of George Soros funded nonprofits.
But what was the next step?
That next step was that when you had to go get money to run your business, you had to run over to Larry Fink and Jamie Dimon and some of these places.
And then they wired it so that the only way you were going to get your financing for everything you wanted to get done, now it's in everything we do, their private equity money, you had to sign on the dotted line to these anti-American really hateful policies.
And so that got all interwoven into business.
And then when that George Floyd thing happened, And we didn't have the courage to say that Mitt Romney was marching for abortion when he marched with Black Lives Matter, and that black kids and brown kids were being slaughtered in Chicago and other cities because Black Lives Matter defunded those cops, and that they have blood on their hands.
When we lost that fight, and then they were able to force diversity officers into every Fortune 250 company.
They all got a diversity officer, and they're literally destroying these companies.
Why do you think that Transvestite activist Dylan Mulvaney, you know, is getting all these contracts from these companies because they have a diversity officer there whose job it is to just jam this kind of policy into the boardroom.
And now the boards have radicals on each one of their boards.
So you see Disney doing this, you see Target doing this, you see Bud Light doing this.
Here's the thing, they're all doing it, Sebastian, because after the George Floyd incident, even no matter what your opinions on whether that should have happened or not, The idea that he was a hero and the idea that Black Lives Matter was a good thing in society transformed our whole economics.
And now we're dealing with the fact that, you know, it's taken enough time for that cancer to spread and to grow.
I don't know how we get it back out other than saying, you can't give him any of your money.
I mean, you just can't.
One of our daughters who loves going to Target, we had the conversation today.
It's like, we can't go there.
I mean, this is the worst thing ever, embracing Satan as a part of your marketing.
I mean, you know, where does it go from here?
It can't get much worse.
This is the molten calf that Moses saw when he came down from the Ten Commandments.
This is Sodom and Gomorrah.
This is Noah in the flood.
This is like...
The end of being able to have a civilization, if we keep being too quiet.
Now, you're not quiet.
I get it.
I've been too quiet and I started to get more loud.
And now when I look in the eyes of my kids, my youngest is 11, like, we better win this fight.
There's no place to go.
There's no island that's remote enough.
There's no yacht that'll have enough supplies on it.
Like, we've got to cure this problem in America.
Because, Sebastian, when we go overseas to these sea packs, you know, because we just came back from Sea Pack Hungry, That Prime Minister Orban's a brave man, but if we don't get it done here in America, everyone in this world is screwed.
Yeah, they're looking at us.
I don't know about you, Eric, I think that is one of the most concise and best answers we've ever had to a question!
Really?
I thought it was a log!
Dude!
No, on a topic this complicated, that was epic.
We're going to make that viral.
Because it's also opened my eyes, the role of the corporations.
Katie's, you know my wife Katie, she's working on a book right now on Neo-Marxism in America.
And she asked me this question yesterday.
You know that world, because you've run this very successful organization.
And she asked me this question.
I don't have the answer.
Do these corporations that are either, you know, in bed with Satanists, like Target, or are, you know, like Coca-Cola and everyone else... And in bed with Satan is exactly the right way to say it.
Indeed.
Let me tell you.
If you don't believe us, guys, look it up.
British Satanist is the designer of the Target children's transgender bathing suit.
Yeah, it's actually... And it's for children.
This idea, oh no, no, the bathing suits and everything, that is complete BS.
Or it's, you know, the Coca-Cola's and the IBM's giving millions to Black Lives Matter.
Here's a question.
Do they believe it?
Do these corporations believe that, yes, this is providing social justice, or are they just being blackmailed the same way that, you know, Al Charlatan has been blackmailing organizations for 40 years?
You know this as a Hungarian.
Mercy knows this as a Cuban, Hungarian-American, Cuban-American, I should say.
Formerly Hungarian.
Formerly Cuban is what her father would say.
But these Marxists always gain power with a slender majority making the large majority feel like they can't say anything.
So within the corporate structure you have a white male executive who feels like he's powerless to push back because they'll get rid of him.
So he shuts up.
He allows the diversity officer and the HR director and the two troublemakers on their board To have their say on all the stuff that doesn't really impact the business.
It's like all this stuff they don't really want to worry about anyway.
And now all of that stuff is impacting every part of their business.
And now these CEOs have to ask themselves, are they going to cut this out and get rid of those people?
Or are they going to keep going along?
Because if they keep going along, there won't be a white CEO left.
You can see this.
I'm not speaking up for white people, even though I am a white person, obviously.
But the idea that being white is a crime is insane.
The idea that, like, young white straight Christian boys can't get into a good school because they don't check any kind of box is insane, and that's where we've come to.
Yeah, yeah.
And it won't just be the white CEOs.
It won't be the corporations.
Target has lost $7 billion in one week.
$7 billion.
And a lot of black and brown people are disgusted by their transgender policies.
Well, not only that.
Oh, sorry, yeah, of course, and Hispanics.
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All right, Matt, this is my favorite question.
We've asked VDH, former SEALs, Jack Carr, generals from Delta Force, and we always get different answers.
What is the greatest influence on them in their understanding of manhood?
Some have said their dad, the football coach.
We had one guy say it was fictional characters like Tom Clancy's adventures like Jack Ryan.
In your understanding of what it means to be a man, who's shaped it over time?
God, I love movies, and I love all these cultural references.
I'm going to give you an answer you've never ever thought of, but the mother of God.
I think she's someone, if you think about her, I've always felt close to her.
I went to a college named after her.
When I had troubles, I had a little bit of a tough childhood, and when I had troubles as a child, I always felt like she was near me.
I think one of the reasons why the Virgin Mary is such a woman of history, not just take the faith part of it, She raised Jesus Christ.
He was the greatest man who ever walked on this earth.
She wasn't trying to hold him back.
She was trying to build him up.
It was all about her son.
She was the one who said, hey, get busy!
She was his Jewish mama.
She had an agenda of her own that he wanted to make sure that he paid attention to.
She was probably no streaking violence.
She was probably saying, Jesus, let's get this show on the road.
But I think she has been someone for me that always was not a model to, hey, Matt, You know, be androgynous.
No, it was like, you're here to be a son of God and to be a man.
And being a man isn't just about being macho, it's about being tender and caring, but it is about showing courage.
It is about being strong, and it is about being a leader.
I don't think that I come close to the league of what her son did, but I do want to make her proud.
I was so looking forward to having you on this show, because it's one of the things, we've had a lot of snake eaters, tough guys, intellectuals, and not enough mention of faith in the manhood hour, and I knew you'd bring it.
You already have, and we're only halfway through.
I'm curious.
God created gender.
You know, every Catholic church, this is one thing people don't think about.
Every Catholic church you walk into, there's obviously Jesus on the crucifix.
There's two other statues.
This is the one part of centralized planning that's good, that'd have to be on the altar.
It's Mary, who's a woman, and it's Joseph, who's a man, or them together as the holy family.
God wanted that mandated in His church for a reason, because He knew one day we'd be fighting over gender and these roles, and He knew that this was a fight that we'd have to make one day.
And if you understand history, civilizations, just before they collapse, always question gender.
They always go androgynous.
Look at what happened to Rome.
Look at what happened in Persia.
There's always this.
You question the fundamentals and then everything turns into a foundation of sand.
I'm curious, when you talk about Mary being your influence, where did you find her?
Was it in the Bible?
Was it in somebody explaining to you her significance?
Was it in the mass?
When did you get to know her importance?
Well, starting in about sixth grade, we moved to New Jersey, and I started going to Catholic school.
But I think the answer to that is, I didn't find her, she found me.
And that's been the most wonderful, beautiful story of my life, which is, God found me.
He knocked on the door.
I happened to open it, but he knocked on the door.
I'm really happy he did.
Well, we are too.
We talked to Matt Schlapp, the chair of the American Conservative Union, conservative.org.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is the Manhood Hour, coming to you from just outside the insalubrious, fetid, rank, malodorous, noisome swamp that is Washington, D.C.
All right, having so much fun here.
Time flies when you've got good guests.
And, you know, I love it when I meet our listeners, I go to these station events, and they always say, Great guest, Dr. G. Well, of course, because there are people I want to talk to, that I want to have discussions with, and we're back with Matt Schlapp.
This is the Manhood Hour.
Now, you've got girls.
You're surrounded in a sea of estrogen.
I do have a male dog.
That's your one compensation.
That's a wise move.
Because you do live in the swamp, and if you want a friend in D.C., get a dog, as they say.
But nevertheless, I'm going to ask you this question.
It's mandatory for all of our guests on the Manhood Hour.
If you were writing a curriculum for the young boys of America that, you know, started with the non-negotiable essentials, the prerequisites for what it means to be a man, what kinds of things would you put on there?
What defines for you, you know, where would you start that discussion with those who are being told, oh, masculinity, that's toxic.
You're not a man unless you know how to treat a lady.
We aren't even allowed to use the word lady.
I had some young men that stayed in the house the other day.
They were on a group from a college.
They didn't know how to look me in the eye.
They didn't know how to shake my hand.
They didn't know how to give a real handshake.
I'm sure they're perfectly fine young men.
These are essentials.
And so for my daughters, you know, dating is kind of weird here in the swamp.
Parties, dances are kind of weird.
But that's what I want to see, right?
When a young man comes over to the house, you want him to be able to look you in the eye, call you by your name, give you a firm handshake, be able to remain looking in your eyes and telling you, you know, what you need to know.
When a young man, this is Sad that I have to do this, but when a young man gives me a really solid handshake, I instantly tell them.
I just say, that's a good handshake.
That's right.
And I shouldn't have to, but nowadays we do.
Yeah, I think the other thing about, I'm going to say manhood, which is awfully important, is we always say there's honor and dignity in work, and Ronald Reagan said that, and a lot of people we respect say that the Bible says that.
But the other thing about a lot of these young men, they've never had a job.
They don't know what it's like to have a tough boss.
You know, I find with the people I manage at CPAC, it doesn't always go well, but a
lot of times it does, is I think a common denominator is young men haven't had a tough
coach.
You know, I was at Rotsy for a year.
I was a competitive tennis player.
I was a slow runner on the cross-country team, not my sport.
I hated cross-country running.
I had coaches yell at me.
I had coaches tell me to drop down and give them ten push-ups because I was too slow or
whatever reason.
I was at Rotsy for a year as a cadet and got hollered at a lot by Sergeant Shuttleworth,
his name was.
And, you know, as much as you hate those moments, it helps make you who you are.
My tennis coach, who was my boss starting from the age of 12, and also taught me how to play tennis along with my mother, he yelled at me a lot.
He's no longer with us.
He yelled at me a lot.
He taught me how to work my butt off when I worked for him.
If I ever thought about sitting down in front of the boob tube, we didn't have phones back then, or screwing around at all in that job, he would have given it to me.
He talked fast.
He gave me a list of things to do every day.
I hated him a lot of days, but when I look back on my life, He helped shape a work ethic and a respect.
When I worked at the country club at the tennis shop, I knew every member's name that would walk in that night.
I greeted them by Dr. So-and-so, Mr. So-and-so, Ma'am, Sir, knew why they were there.
This is a lost art.
When I walk into my club where I play tennis now, the young person barely looks up from their phone.
To even say hello.
We got to stop this.
We're not raising kids with the types of skills it takes to be able to run this country in a way that'll make it successful.
And I think some of these basic things, you said, I'm trying to remember back to your question, but it's like, what are those fundamental things?
If we can't do this stuff, how are we going to do more complicated things?
Right.
It's funny.
I spent, I had a peculiar school career.
I went to the nuns for preschool.
Korean nuns?
I bet they were tough!
No, no, no.
It was Sister Mary Margarita.
She was Italian.
I did a year with them.
And then I went to a Benedictine school for 14 years.
I was there longer than most of the staff had been there.
But the only teacher, or the teacher that has made the greatest impression on me to this very day, and I can still see him in his tweed jacket with his master's black cloak, was the toughest teacher.
And he was the best.
He was our Latin master.
I don't know if he's still around.
I'm just going to pay respect to him right now.
It was Vernon Irons.
Irons was his name.
And he was tough as iron.
But dude, did we come out of that class...
Sister John Ellen Garrity taught me history throughout high school.
I mean, you didn't want to take Sister John Ellen.
She's not with us any longer, but people feared that little Irish nun from Chicago.
But you learned, right?
You learned your history.
If you didn't learn, you were going to be in big trouble.
So, how about this?
Cutting grass for the 60, 70-year-old men in the neighborhood.
I did a lot of that because we didn't have a lot of extra cash.
Boy, if you cut the grass wrong or you hid the clippings under the shrub, they caught it.
They hollered at you.
And a young man who never gets hollered at...
Because all young men are... Doesn't work out well.
And our young people are not ever hollered at by anyone.
They're told they're lovely and they're perfect and they deserve a trophy.
And they're all getting good grades because grades don't mean anything in a lot of these schools.
It's like we're destroying the character of these people.
And like an animal that you try to raise right as a puppy so that they're a great, mature animal, kids it's even more important.
If you don't raise them right at a young age, They'll have these bad habits their whole life, and we have a society that's riddled with people with terrible habits and bad character.
I have two more questions left.
This is usually the last one, but I'm going to spring it on you now.
In all of these things, are you an optimist or pessimist when it comes to the future of manhood and masculinity in our civilization?
Where do you stand?
I'm not an optimist in any way, but I have hope.
And a former Prime Minister of Australia explained that to me.
I think that's exactly right.
I have to have hope.
I believe it in my faith.
But am I just getting up in the morning and sunny and optimistic about things?
Hell no, I'm the opposite.
I'm very worried about the path we're on.
But I have to have hope that it can change.
And I see it in the people that are doing good all around me.
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Welcome back to the Manhood Hour.
Matt, last few minutes, so glad you've been in studio, especially for the Manhood Hour.
Let's put this tweet up that you, I think you put up on Friday.
I just love it.
I think this has to be turned into a poster or a t-shirt.
I'm still standing!
I ain't going anywhere!
The fight continues.
I chose this country.
I think it's the greatest country on God's green earth.
I don't think most Americans who are born here understand that properly.
But I'm very disturbed by what I witnessed under COVID.
I saw a nation that forgot where it came from, forgot how it was founded, the pioneer spirit, the go-west young man that just said, yeah, Fauci, we'll shut down our businesses.
We'll lose our livelihoods.
And I'm also most disgusted at our churches, including my church, the Catholic Church.
Talk to me about when it comes to manhood and just civilization in general, the role of courage And the role of those who have faith to be examples to others in these very, very trying times where we are surrounded by the work of the dark one.
We're taught from a young age to be respectful of the law.
Even Donald Trump talked about law and order.
And we have these confusing moments when the people who are supposed to be explaining what the law is and the experts that are supposed to be telling us how we can keep our babies safe are corrupted and they're lying.
And that's what happened during all the COVID stuff.
Every one of the major players during COVID has now written a book and said that we lied our asses off
because we felt we needed to do it because we need to have an answer.
I'm sorry.
That's not even a good reason for a little white lie.
A little white lie reason is I didn't want to hurt your feelings or it wasn't an opportune time to like kind of really tell the truth.
Not that.
I had to look smart on the TV cameras and I had to have an answer.
So I made it up and destroyed people's lives.
You know I have five kids.
My daughters couldn't go to a dance, to a football game.
They couldn't go to any of their extracurricular activities.
They were forced.
They were imprisoned in our house, Sebastian.
And then we had to fight over the vaccine.
And it was, are you going to get it and are you not going to get it?
In our household, it was father says you're not getting it and mother agreed.
But we had our rough moments, including, you know, colleges mandating it and schools mandating it.
We had to do all the letters.
And one of the children I had, I almost thought our relationship would never be the same, came up to me two weeks ago and she said, Dad, you showed leadership and you were right about the vaccine.
And I said, and the masks.
And I, you know, it was one of those moments when a man wanted to cry a bit because I was like, wow.
I stood my ground, I led, and the child realized over time that I was right to stand, even though she thought I was destroying everything she cared about.
So, we've had these moments, but we shouldn't have had to have them.
No.
Just disgraceful.
And for Dr. Fauci and the woman with the scarf, Dr. Birx, and for all the other people who lied to Trump and lied to all of us, I'm just sorry.
I don't want to, it's not my job to judge them, but they have gone, I don't know how they ever make up.
For the lives they destroyed.
Literally, the lives, the people who died because of what they said.
The lives they destroyed and the lives that they took.
Yeah.
Alright, we need to continue this.
God bless you for doing what you do.
Your whole team.
You too.
Mercy, the whole schlap.
I can't read, you say Katie's.
Katie's book.
Oh, I know, I know.
It'll be out soon.
It's going to be the roadmap for what we do with those who want to destroy Western civilization.
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