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♪♪ Do you know, it's quite surprising that Marines, U.S.
Marines, Devil Dogs, Leathernecks, they come in all shapes and sizes.
Some of them can be rather small and compact, but that doesn't make them any the less dangerous.
I have a colleague at Town Hall.
Townhall.com is part of the Salem Media Empire, for which I work, and his name is Julio Rosas.
He's not large and intimidating to look at, But that is deceptive.
Because when a scumbag left-wing politician tries to mess with him and question his credentials as the man who literally wrote the book on Antifa, the man who's at the border documenting the crimes of the Biden administration, well, let's just say that Congressman Goldman, he made a mistake.
Gaslight us up here as if Antifa, which Mr. Rosas, apparently the expert now in organized terrorist activity, has overruled the FBI director.
Well, I think it's funny to be lectured by an heir to the Levi Strauss Corporation.
not an organization. No, no, no. Let's not listen to the FBI director. Let's listen to,
sorry, what's your title? Senior writer at Town Hall who is going to tell us that the FBI director
is wrong. Well, I think it's funny to be lectured by an heir to the Levi Strauss Corporation. And
honestly, that's probably why he doesn't consider property damage to be that big of a deal because
not only does he have that, but he also has what some would describe an impossibly good stock
portfolio.
Boom.
The entitled leftist, Adam Schiff's successor, scion of the Levi's Strauss family, a man who has a, let's just put it diplomatically, a suspiciously successful stock portfolio since he became a congressman.
That person is going to tell us, oh, Antifa, it's not real.
And two billion dollars worth of damage to the US economy.
Tsk tsk tsk.
That's my champagne budget for the year.
Wow.
Julio, we love you.
Well done.
It's not good to disagree with your producer on a radio show.
And allegedly, Mr. G wasn't that impressed with Julio's performance.
Is that true, Mr. G?
I just said he had a lot of time to prepare and he was teed up from another congressman, a Republican, to be able to respond to him.
So what?
He had a lot of time to prepare, time to research him.
But that's not the point!
That's not the point!
The point is he said it!
How many conservative witnesses have the testicular fortitude to do what Julio did?
Well, Corey Lewandowski did a whole hearing like that one time, but that's one.
I understand what you're saying, that's one.
I'll give you that, but he should have said it right afterwards.
Eric, are you impressed?
That was pretty good, but as I was saying before, my favorite moment still to this day of a conservative challenging a member of Congress in a hearing like that.
It's gotta be Candace Owens versus Ted Lieu, if you remember that.
Oh, that was good.
Little Teddy!
I wonder how his buddy Ed Buck is doing today.
He never talks about Ed Buck anymore.
All right, it continues with wonderful, wonderful little clips.
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Okay, here's Elon being interviewed on CNBC who, well again, just like the BBC, they make a mistake thinking that Elon's just another guy they can bamboozle.
You know, you do some tweets that seem to be, or at least give support to some who would call others conspiracy theories.
Well, yes, but I mean, honestly, you know, some of these conspiracy theories have turned out to be true.
Which ones?
Well, like the Hunter Biden laptop.
That's true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, you know, that was a pretty big deal.
There was Twitter and others engaged in active suppression of information that was relevant to the public.
That's a terrible thing that happened.
That's election interference.
Some of the theories turn out to be true, and big tech suppressed them, and did so to steal an election.
Yeah, yeah, that's what they did.
Whether it was the 51 lying CIA intelligence officers saying it was Russian propaganda, or whether it was Twitter deciding to suppress the New York Post's exclusive story about the crimes on those laptops.
But they're not having it!
MSNBC's Chris Hayes, he's crying into his widows.
Cut 10.
And then there's the guy who runs the website who really likes to tweet.
One of the richest men in the world who's basically, like, thumbs-upping and responding to just about every offensive, racist, right-wing meme he sees on the website.
Last night, he compared George Soros to the most infamous Jewish villain in comic book history, saying that Soros hates humanity.
Well, if there's a person who's trying to undermine Western civilization, the pinnacle of it, America more than anyone else, I don't think that individual could be anyone but George Soros.
Whether it's funding prosecutors, who say what in their campaign?
My strategic intent is to put the President behind bars?
I would say that is an enemy to everything we hold sacred, because you are using your billions to undermine rule of law, which is one of the key things that makes Western civilization special.
We have rule of law.
Law is not capricious.
It is not a tool, a weapon of the political elite.
Unless, of course, you're Obama, Brennan or Comey as we have documented in the Durham report.
I'm going to share with you latest findings hidden deep in this report that you need to be aware of.
But let's get to the point of what these people have as their real problem.
This is Michelle Goldberg.
I do believe in New York Times, right?
I don't think Michelle Goldberg is one of the crazy loonies at the New York Times.
I think that's correct, yeah.
And back on Chris Hayes' show, she's crying because reality hurts.
Cut 11.
I mean, you both shouldn't be on Twitter because Elon Musk owns it, but also Elon Musk is the incarnation of why you shouldn't be on Twitter, because he shows you every day what Twitter does to someone's brain.
Right?
I mean, you just have seen... Right, the cautionary tale.
Right, you watch this person kind of be radicalized and red-pilled in real time, as every trollish conspiracy theory he just mainlines and then regurgitates it.
Eric, I don't think she's seen The Matrix, has she?
No, imagine being in that state of mind where it's somehow indoctrination or radicalization to start maybe thinking for yourself perhaps?
Yeah, and red-pilling is that moment where Neo has to choose between the artificial imaginary world that's been created to deceive him or take the red pill and see reality.
So I guess Michelle Goldberg at the New York Times I guess you've revealed yourself because you don't like reality.
And we're the radicals!
But not BLM or Antifa, which according to Goldman, it's just an idea!
Oh yeah, because ideas aren't dangerous.
Oh my gosh, is that already the time?
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If we send these things to John Early,
does he manage to post them earlier?
I think I exposed them earlier.
I'll ask him, but probably.
Angel tree.
Yeah.
I'll use the grandmother's audio here.
Which cut?
It's the grandmother audio, it's for the angel tree.
You're away from the mic, we can't hear you.
Sorry, the grandmother audio for the angel tree.
Oh, okay, yeah.
We'll kill the mics when the other congressman gets on.
I'm gonna use the DJT cut here.
Where is it?
That's cut six.
That was Schmidt's show, right Geoff?
It was, yeah.
Alright, what else have we got?
Skype.
He's connected.
Oh, Robichaud?
He can't.
He can do it tomorrow.
Okay.
Kill the likes, Alex.
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But Rob Schmidt had President Trump on his show.
And he had something to say about the Durham Report cut sex.
I would tell you that it's a great vindication and it feels good and the report has been, you know, wildly praised.
I wish it could have come faster, but the detail that he went into, 308 pages, the detail is extraordinary.
And all of these people, I guess you could call it treason, you could call it a lot of different things, but this should never be allowed to happen in our country again.
Should never be allowed to happen in our country again, and it's treason.
Let's see if we can get something to happen on Capitol Hill as a result.
I know one man, when he's not chomping on a cigar, who's going to make that happen, God willing, is from the 22nd Congressional District of the Lone Star State Congressman, Troy Nels.
It's been a while.
Welcome back to America First.
Good to be with you, Seb.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
So two things I'm going to say about these 307 pages.
Tell me if you agree.
Number one, utter complete vindication of President Trump and everybody said that Russia collusion was a hoax because it says no evidence, no evidence found of Russia collusion to even justify all the spying, the surveillance warrants.
But then an utter and complete disaster.
Because this coward, when he says it was illegal, says no charges should be filed.
Do you agree that vindication but also a failure because Durham doesn't have the cojones to do something about it?
That's right.
Well, I was very, very pleased, and I'm so glad to hear the president.
Obviously, he's very upbeat.
But truth is on our side.
Truth has always been on our side.
Sab, we knew that this was nothing more than the hoax, the Russia collusion hoax.
I'm glad the Durham report is out.
But now I think those that created all this fake news, that we must hold them accountable.
I think they must be held accountable.
How much really play will the media, the dishonest media, give this?
I think they're going to try to find a way to spin it.
They're going to try to find a way to downplay it.
But the FBI, the FBI must be held accountable.
I believe heads must roll as a result of this, and we need you to change your leadership within that administration, that organization, because you can't be trusted.
The FBI, sadly, the FBI can't be trusted.
So what happens for the next year and a half?
You've had Mitch McConnell betray us on the continuing resolution so the House doesn't have the power of the purse for months and months and months.
There's talk about using specific targeted refusal of funding for certain elements of the federal government.
Does the GOP, in addition to congressional hearings and subpoenas, do you have any tools?
What can we expect to try and put this right, Congressman?
Well, I don't know.
I think what you're seeing take place up here right now is we've had a very successful, I believe, Sam, a very successful five months up here.
We got our bills passed last week specifically.
We got, I think, our toughest immigration bill we've had passed through the House.
So I think it's a step in the right direction.
We need to go back to those Trump policies.
So I think we've had a lot of success.
But right now, the real question is, is we've got this debt limit, the debt ceiling.
We're concerned about that.
We obviously run away inflation, 31 trillion in debt.
So what are we going to do?
And I know Speaker McCarthy is out there talking to Joe Biden about this.
I think most Americans want us to see a deal cut.
But I don't think we should be compromising on our principles any longer.
When we compromise on our principles, this is what we get.
We get an America in chaos.
We get $31 trillion in debt.
And we must start pushing back and staying true to the voters that put us here, especially now that we have the majority.
The American people gave the House the majority.
We must protect the gavel.
There we have a cut we'll play later with former Congressman Dave Bratwick.
McCarthy actually calls the debt the biggest threat, bigger than even China and Russia, which I think he might be right about.
But I have to ask you, if we're going to fix all of this corruption in DC, the FBI, the CIA being basically the weaponized arms of the DNC, we have to win the 24 elections.
Are you satisfied?
With what the institutional GOP is doing to secure those elections?
Give us an honest appraisal of the work being done right now.
I mean, Texas I'm not worried about, but I'm worried about Georgia.
I'm worried about Pennsylvania.
Are you worried?
Well, of course I'm worried.
I mean, if we lose our election integrity, I mean, we lose our country.
There's no question about that.
And the left, they certainly find ways to cheat and rig.
So I think it's very, very important that we have election integrity in our elections in the future.
It's sad that we actually have to talk about that.
What do you mean election integrity?
There should always be integrity in our elections.
But no, that's not the case.
That's not what happened in 2020.
And in some cases here in 2022.
But I believe that many of the state legislatures, they're just finishing now their session, and they're looking at their election laws.
And I think they're trying to tighten it up a little bit to make sure that there is election integrity in those various states.
But there are some states that they just don't care.
I don't have to name them.
We all know who they are.
But hopefully in those swing states, That they're paying attention because it's their state, certainly, whether it's Ohio or even even a little state of Wisconsin, that we have an election integrity because if the American people have doubts and they don't believe we have their, that their vote, their individual vote matters or counts, we've got problems.
Yeah, yeah.
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I do not want that cigar to go out, so I will release you now so you can keep puffing on it.
I just need to know, what are you smoking, Congressman?
I'm smoking a great Ashton 898.
It's a nice mild cigar.
You're gonna like it.
About 14 bucks a stick.
So it could hit your pocketbook.
But it'll last you 45 minutes.
With a little glass of Woodford, you're in heaven.
I'm a very fast smoker.
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But an Ashton?
That's a very nice choice.
Enjoy, Congressman!
God bless!
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He used to be a sheriff, right?
Yeah, sheriff, and I think he was a colonel in the National Guard.
That's awesome.
He's becoming one of my favorites, just based on personality.
Yeah, he's the replacement Gomer.
Yeah, I can see that.
I can see that.
Let's try and get him on a one-on-one, Geoff.
Alright, I didn't do merch, so we'll do merch after Pillow.
Yeah.
You're already on podcast and social.
Yeah.
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If you want to go fun, cigars would be pretty fun.
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We should do a short clip of the cigars at the end.
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There we go.
Yep.
There we go.
Did you tell Cassio, Geoff, that RoboShot can't do it?
We didn't put him in the tweet anyway.
Oh, okay, that's true.
Alright, so we've done those.
We've done DJT.
The Fetterman cut has got to do that some point.
The Fetterman cut?
Oh my gosh.
The Bannon cut's also pretty great.
The Bannon cut we will definitely use.
That's important.
I'm going to use McCarthy with Bratz.
We might use Bannon with Jen.
Hit it.
Yeah.
I think he's speaking the truth in that case.
Who?
Bannon.
Like when he says, you know, it's just.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.
Totally.
Right.
What, is there any cut I haven't seen?
We've seen, well, there's the last Elon Musk cut.
Play me that.
Look, there are some exceptions, but I kind of think that the whole notion of work from home is a bit like the fake Marie Antoinette quote, let them eat cake.
It's like...
It's like, really, you're going to work from home and you're going to make everyone else who made your car come work in the factory?
You're going to make the people who make your food that gets delivered, they can't work from home?
The people that come fix your house, they can't work from home, but you can?
Does that seem morally right?
That's messed up.
You see it as a moral issue?
Yes.
I mean, I see it more as a... It's a productivity issue, but it's also a moral issue.
People should get off the goddamn moral high horse with their work from home.
Because they're asking everyone else to not work from home while they do.
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MAGA-nificent.
Just listening to another cut from Elon in the break about working from home being immoral.
We'll play it later.
I just want to plant that seed because I don't know if I thought about it like that, but I'm intrigued.
I swear that guy's brain is wired differently.
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I haven't even bloody started the show!
John from South Carolina.
He had a burr under his saddle.
Line one.
Quickest redial in the history of the world, Dr. G. Quickest redial.
Listen, here's the worst joke of the day.
Let me run it by you real quick.
When Charlie Kirk orders a rental car, does he say Kirk to Enterprise?
Ooh!
Now that's a dad joke, but it's good.
I apologize to everybody.
I wouldn't blame you if you hung up on me, but please don't, okay?
I'm gonna actually text that to Kirk in the break.
I'm gonna say, here's from one of our dear, dear listeners.
That's actually good, John.
Alright, but is that why you called?
Don't overplay it, Dr. G. That's good!
Look, I like Star Trek, and I used to like Enterprise, so it's good.
I know, I know you did.
Listen, you've always complimented me on my uncanny timing, and I'm calling about conspiracy theories today.
I was shocked when I heard this.
I mean, really and truly shocked.
Now, you know where the term conspiracy theory originated, don't you?
It was in 1967, when the CIA was trying to squash everything about the JFK assassination.
I don't need footnotes for what you're saying, John.
The president, the president, you know who I'm talking about, our president said that
when he gets re-elected, you know, I said when he gets re-elected.
I know this.
I don't need footnotes for what you're saying, John.
I know what you're doing.
Okay.
Are you full of, let me cut to the chase then.
Are you familiar with the documentary JFK the Smoking Gun, based on the book Mortal Error?
I'm familiar with the concept of the smoking gun, but remind me.
okay essentially um... there's uh... a guy named uh... howard donahue
who was a ballistics expert and a cold case investigator who decided to
uh... tackle that jfk murder
and what they what they determined was that that everything that everybody believed was
absolutely crazy and uh... they came up with a
uh... but but but centrally a an opt-ins razor solution to everything the simplest
thing possible that actually
that oswald had actually only gotten awful but you've got to have
The first one hit beside Kennedy's car and some shrapnel stuck him in the chest.
Sprayed up and actually hit bystander.
So it didn't disable him.
And he exclaimed where Roy Kellerman, the agent in charge, heard him say, my God, I've been hit.
And so he was just barely struck.
Then there was a second shot that actually did hit Kennedy in the neck.
It hit the trachea, but it didn't hit the spine, so it was a completely survivable shot.
But what happened then was what threw everything into complete chaos.
There was a new agent who was supposed to be a driver.
His name was George Hickey.
You've got 30 seconds left, dude.
Well, Hickey stood up, he flipped off the switch on the AR-15, he flipped off the switch, and he stood up, and right as he did, the driver surged forward and threw him and another agent into the back.
And that's who shot Kennedy.
It was an accidental discharge.
So you think that's what President Trump wants to release?
I don't know.
I think it's been deep-sixed.
I don't think we will ever see any of this.
But it is the only thing that explains all of the chaos and all of the craziness and everything.
Well, actually, there's another theory.
And it's actually an episode in the TV show I've just finished filming, all 12 episodes of.
So John didn't know that.
But the timing is perfect.
Stay tuned for a brand new TV show from me and my team.
God bless you, John.
What a fascinating call.
But we've got so many other people waiting as well.
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I saw that whole thing like 10 years ago that guy's talking about.
You did?
Yes.
I think it was...
Someone did it, like a documentary on it.
Yeah, there's a huge problem with that.
Oh, I don't believe it at all.
There's a massive problem.
An AR-15 fires a .223 at 3,000 feet per second.
He would have been shot at point-blank range by a weapon that would have produced a huge wound cavity.
It wouldn't be, you know, one entry hole, one exit hole in his chest, which is what you get from a guy shooting, you know, 200 feet away.
He would have literally, like Biden says, blasted out his lungs.
A point blank range shot.
From an M16.
No, he doesn't.
That ballistics expert doesn't know what he's talking about.
Yeah, I'm willing to listen to conspiracy theories about JFK.
That's one I don't accept.
But then the whole secret service has to stay quiet with that for this long.
And also, it was an open top Cadillac that you could see from above.
Where the hell is that M16?
Was it in his pocket?
My favorite conspiracy theory is the mob killed him.
Oh, yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't forget.
The mob with the CIA.
Well, no.
You think the mob would stay quiet about that?
They'd be running around forever saying that they killed a president.
Yeah, they'd be making documentaries about it.
I always do think it is super shady, and I don't know if this is ever explained or if it's just sheer incompetence, that when they get to the hospital after they take him in, The secret service starts cleaning the car.
Like, they start washing away the blood, and I'm just like... No, that's when you have such high respect for the principle.
It's like... That's a crime scene!
I saw that too, but think about then.
They didn't have DNA or anything, you know what I mean?
And think about it, the president's blood?
The only thing I don't believe is the magic board.
No, but I explain that in my episode.
You do?
That's interesting.
I do the whole thing.
Something I was reminded of, too.
Apparently, like, they took out his brain and put it in the National Archives, but then the brain ended up going missing a few years later?
Like, what was the deal with that?
The President's brain is missing.
Supposedly.
I mean, I don't know.
Look, it's what Chris Plant says.
Yeah.
The Democrats had to spin up conspiracy theories because they couldn't admit to the world that a communist killed him.
That's the bottom line.
That a communist killed him.
But the ruby thing's interesting.
The ruby thing is interesting, but he's also a loony.
I mean, look at his life.
He's a nutcase.
The idea that you'd hire a loony guy who paints his eyebrows and has red dyed hair as your amazing assassin, it's like, guys, come on.
See, that's all the stuff they admit from all the documentaries.
Right.
Of course, of course they left it out.
PhD.
PhD, yeah.
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Let's go to Cleveland. Derek, welcome to America First.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
I called in about the Antifa denial syndrome.
Yes, and it's just an idea!
It's just an idea, like, oh, I don't know, communism.
It is, and you know, one thing, so my wife and I, we do a lot of vending.
She has a soap and candle company, and so at one of our events, we had seen these brainwashed cult members going around, passing out flyers.
That's who they were.
That's what their t-shirt said.
And they even have this whole pageantry where they have these women dressed up like they were in the Scarlet Letter, going around, parading.
We've all seen them.
We've all seen the videos.
We've seen the riots.
We've seen the arson.
We've seen it with our own eyes, Derek.
Right.
And you know, Dr. G, what stood out to me during the debates when Donald Trump and Joe Biden were here in Cleveland and Chris Wallace and Biden, remember?
So I don't understand.
teaming up on Trump, badgering him to denounce the Proud Boys, the Proud Boys
that were used. And when he mentioned Antifa, it was very telling to me Joe
Biden's reaction. It was a very strong reaction and the same thing. Antifa is an
idea, not an organization. Well, he seemed to know what what they were talking
about. He seemed to recognize that name and if he, just the strong
reaction, it was very telling. So I don't understand, what does that
indicate to you? What's the significance of the strong reaction?
.
Well, he's denying that they even exist.
Why would he react so strongly about it?
They have organizational websites besides them.
Well, look, the point is that we should be demanding that they disavow Antifa because it is their left wing.
Just like the KKK 100 years ago was the armed wing of the Democrats, that's what the Antifa thugs are today.
Thank you, Derek.
Let's go to Sean in New York City.
Dr. Gorka, always a pleasure to talk to you.
I want to tie in how the assault on the border factors in with the Durham report.
What's happening at the border is an attack on citizenship.
We can agree on that.
It's an attack on sovereignty.
It's an attack on everything.
It's drugs.
It's modern slavery.
It's everything.
So, if they are diluting citizenship, and if they are taking away our sovereignty, and they are changing the entire demographic and replacing us, I think an argument can be made that the political class that has committed treason should lose their passports.
It says that one way you can lose your passport is by committing treason, and it's arguable that they certainly have committed treason.
Somebody has to arrest them.
Who's it going to be?
Merrick Garland, Sean?
I think they have to subpoena them and call them into the Congress.
No, you can't be charged with treason unless somebody arrests you.
Who's going to arrest them, Sean?
Well, I'm thinking if they could call them into Congress, you could have the Sergeant at Arms put them under arrest.
Yeah.
You think that's likely to happen?
It's not likely to happen, but perhaps if we can... Do you think the Sergeant at Arms is going to arrest the Democrats?
Probably not, but, you know, we're thinking out loud here.
Okay.
Thank you, Sean.
Let's stay in the realms of reality.
Let's go to Laura Anaheim, line one.
Hi, my name is Laura Stenson from Anaheim.
On national radio, you do not give your full name, because there are a lot of lunatics out there, Laura.
Oh, gosh.
Okay, well, I just had an idea for a t-shirt.
Yes, what's your idea, Laura?
I was going to have Trump riding on a drill.
I don't know what those drill machines are called, but it's going to say, drill, baby, drill.
OK, I like that.
That's a fun one.
I love it.
All right.
Larry, line five.
God bless you, Sebastian.
Quite some time ago, someone began calling the mainstream media MSM or mainstream media.
I resent that because I think we are mainstream.
Yeah, I started to try and use that less and less and less.
If you pay attention to the show, I've been trying to swap mainstream media out with lying legacy media.
What's your alternative?
State-run media.
Ooh, that's good.
That is what Elon's been doing.
That's what Elon's been doing on Twitter with his little labels for NPR and, you know, Voice of America.
He's been putting underneath their Twitter bio, state-funded.
What is it he puts under there, Eric, like state-sponsored or state-funded or something?
State-affiliated, yeah.
So even Elon Musk agrees with you, Larry.
Thank you.
God bless you.
You're very welcome.
Thank you kindly.
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What's the guy's name?
What's Red- What's Carrot Top's name?
Oh, Harry.
Prince Ginger.
Harry.
Prince Ginger.
Prince Ginger.
Harry.
The fake high-speed chase.
Yeah, the fake high-speed chase.
You see, like, during the coronation too, like, Harry was seated, like, way back.
Yeah, I did.
I did.
I'm so satisfied with that that that's what happened to them.
Are you an anti-royalist, Eric?
I'm anti-Harry and Meghan, yeah.
I don't understand the whole thing.
I really don't.
You understand what?
The whole royal family thing.
I don't get it.
I think that's why we created America, Geoff.
Yeah.
What about the new king?
What about Charles?
What I do not get, have you seen his fingers?
Yes.
He has sausage fingers.
If you just saw them, they would be like fingers of a 350 pound person.
He's not fat.
I don't get it.
Because he's got a condition.
He's got swollen fingers.
That's called water retention.
From what reasons?
It could be diabetic.
I don't know.
I'm a bloody doctor.
Just your fingers?
Yeah, no, it'll be his ankles.
It'll be the extremities.
Have you heard of stuff like being sick?
I know you're super healthy.
You're not.
But I am.
I'm so happy you're healthy.
A legend.
A legal immigrant.
Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
What do we talk about in the breaks?
Deep and meaningful stuff!
No, thanks to Mr. G, we talk about... King Charles' fat fingers.
Honestly, can we just raise the level of discussion?
Okay, can I piss you all off?
This was sent to me.
Just before the show, taken by an American in Paris.
Put it on the screen.
This is the flagpole.
Lose the chyron.
Guys, when I put a picture up, lose the chyron.
Okay?
This is the flagpole above the U.S.
Embassy in Paris, as in France, not Texas.
The stars and stripes.
Top of the flag.
Underneath it, the rainbow gay pride flag.
Where's my heterosexual pride flag?
I'm an American.
Why isn't it there?
Hey, Eric, should we have on our website, should we design a heterosexual pride flag?
We gotta celebrate straight pride.
We're the future of civilization after all.
Ooh, I think I made Alex smile there.
The straight pride flag.
What do you think, Alex?
Should we do that?
I love the idea.
Alright, what are we going to have on it?
We're going to have some masculine men and very shapely women.
We'll work it out.
We're going to design that in the break.
In the meantime, let's go to the Poet Laureate of America First.
I do believe Brent's on the line.
Greetings, Brent!
Greetings, great patriarch Gorka!
So what do you think of our heterosexual pride flag?
Are you in?
Would you buy one of those?
I think it should be a crucifix and a Jewish star.
Ooh, I like that.
But there's got to be something masculine and feminine as well about it.
But we'll work it out.
We'll work out the details.
All right.
We've got a minute and a half.
Why did you call us today of all days, Brent?
Well, I wanted to talk about Nero Joe's Democrat border invasion.
Do it.
And it has nothing to do with incompetency or senility.
It is only about their Maoist democracy of death, dictatorship, and terror, which President Trump will blessedly and constitutionally destroy.
If we do our part.
Sorry, carry on.
Yes, and Judas Mayorkas is greenlighting a million-man Trojan horse army of felons, jihadis, and communist crusaders to deliver deadly diversity, infectious inclusion, and equitable execution of patriots, Christians, and Jews.
And the deep state CDC, FDA, CCP, Fauci flu didn't murder enough Americans for total takeover.
So Admiral Levin of Health and Human Services is now transitioning to typhus plague, cholera, fentanyl, sex slaves and STDs to empower their health care killers to coerce yet another crisis.
This is going to be the big thing that people haven't even considered.
The amount of disease that we're letting into this country by the unfettered access of illegal immigrants who are not being screened when they cross the border.
You're absolutely right.
And we need a product.
I love that phrase, Fauci flu.
God bless you.
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And no cough in here, right?
Could be interesting, guys.
Could be interesting.
Yeah, we're coming right now.
I'm gonna try not to get boisterous today.
Seems like when I get boisterous, I cough.
Oh, gosh.
Hi!
Ring-a-ding-ding.
There you are.
Ringy-dingy-dingy.
Could you give us a censor too, Jen?
Yeah, test 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
Yeah, can we put it back out?
Yep.
45 seconds.
Alright, yep.
Alright, set it back.
How's it going over there?
Hello!
30 seconds.
Lots to talk about these days.
Yeah.
Which cuts did you want to use here, uh, Seb?
Uh, I want to use, uh, Fetterman... Thank you.
Thank you.
That's right.
What's the number?
Oh, Banon, I think.
15 is my tool.
So, let's go.
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Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
Welcome back, dear friends.
Welcome back.
What shall we talk about today?
Shall we consult with somebody who is a true maven, an expert when it comes to radio, a person who works harder than anybody else I know in the business.
She is a good friend of the show.
She's a stalwart.
of Salem and she keeps California sane.
Host of the Morning Answer, AM 870 and also 590, KRLA and also CRN Digital Talk, Jennifer Horne!
How the dickens are you doing?
I missed you last week.
I was not with you because I had a speaking engagement and my week is just not the same without getting to hang out with you.
If I don't have my Tuesday chats with you on your show and then you don't come on my show, it's just, there's, you know, the Feng Shui of the world is out of order.
That's right.
I have to move my book to the left corner of my room or something like that.
You have to readjust your furniture.
How was your engagement?
It was great.
I've actually had two since we last spoke.
I had one last week in Porter Ranch, California.
I had another in Westlake, California last night.
And you were mentioned, actually.
What?
I don't even know if I should mention this.
I kind of got into, it was a very respectful debate, but with everything that's come out, you don't mind if I commandeer to you for a second?
No, take over the show.
Feel at home.
It's like you're not here or something and I'm back in charge.
You're guest hosting.
I'm guest hosting.
No, but I bring this up and I didn't even think about it until right now, but yesterday, I think what I've been talking about when I go out and speak to groups is, especially lately, we've got the Comer investigation that's ongoing in the House.
We've got the FBI, John Durham report that just came out.
Now, all of those things can be lackluster, but there are pieces of vindication in those reports and things that the mainstream news media is not talking about.
The bottom line is that the FBI has interfered in the last several elections in this country FBI and CIA and DOJ.
Right.
And all of the politicians who are running things.
All of these electeds together have created the so-called swamp that President Trump talked about that are really interfering in our elections while we're crying about voter rolls.
I mean, my God.
Yes, it's important to have clean voter rolls and ballot harvest.
But if you don't think that it is serious that the FBI and the CIA are interfering in our elections, if we don't have someone strong in the office, We are.
This could be our last election.
And I'm not a panicker.
You know that.
I am an optimist.
But we need to fix the problem.
So one gentleman stood up in the room and he was pretty adamant.
He said, you and Sebastian Gorka need to tell President Trump to stop saying mean things about Ron DeSantis.
And I said, Okay, first of all, I love President Trump.
I've been in the same room with President Trump.
I don't have him on speed dial.
And I said, and that is never going to happen with Sebastian Gorka.
And he said, well, what do you mean?
You need to tell Sebastian Gorka to call President Trump to tell him to stop saying mean things about Ron DeSantis.
And I said, wait a second.
I said, first of all, The president has been, I think, the most well-organized that he has ever been.
He said a few things about Ron DeSantis.
Well, it turns out he was talking about the commercials that are running that President Trump probably has nothing to do with.
You know, the pudding commercial, the stuff that some super PACs around the president will run.
And I think it is so misguided, Seb, the reason I tell you this, because anyone who is sitting in the Republican Party or in any party who is some semblance of sane, if you are worried about mean tweets or name-calling, You are not concerned about what's really going on in this country.
This is not a popularity contest.
It's not prom king.
My God, you've got something happening in this country that I never thought would be possible.
We can't trust our government.
We need someone who can fix it.
I don't care if he calls Ron DeSantis Ron DeSanctimonious.
Yeah.
Well, thank you for sending that message and for completely taking over my show.
I was going to have fun with you.
I was going to send... Let's have fun!
Too late.
Too late.
You've taken over.
The women are in control.
The patriarchy is now gasping.
Well, you've actually segued to something that Well, look, you talked about this whole voter rolls thing, you know, mean tweets versus getting stuff seriously done.
Let's get your take on this because I've never, Hannity has become kind of like hackneyed in the last three years.
It's kind of retread, retread, retread.
You know, Lindsey Graham on talking about subpoenas and never do anything.
But I don't know, I guess.
Something happened to him yesterday and Rona Romney was on and he kind of called her out.
I've never seen him do this to Rona before.
So your response would be appreciated.
Cut 12.
Play cut.
But Ronna, let me interrupt you, if I may.
The Democrats are killing the Republicans with early voting and ballot harvesting.
They are killing them.
And that's why on Election Day... California, we just won with Duarte with ballot harvesting.
We won Zinke with ballot harvesting.
We won three statewide races in Nevada.
Why are Republicans starting out these races behind by 100,000, 250,000, 500,000 votes before Election Day even starts?
Not in North Carolina, not in Florida.
But let me say this, there's two numbers that you also have to point out.
Democrats spent $600 million more in soft money in 2022, and the Senate candidates, the six top Senate races, Democrats spent $288 million more.
But because otherwise Republicans won't compete.
The RFC can't raise, take a million dollar check.
That's all outside groups.
And here's what I'm going to say.
Republicans wait until election year and then they invest.
And you have to invest now in the process.
You cannot wait.
Wait.
Text WIN to 80810.
You cannot wait.
We need to be getting people on the permanent absentee voter file in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
It takes money.
You can't wait until the candidates are picked.
You have to invest in the process.
So you, but by saying that though, are you acknowledging that it's...
Yes, we are.
Are you doing anything about it?
We need more money.
in all these states, minority outreach.
We're investing, but you're behind the eight ball.
That's my point.
No, we are not behind the eight ball.
I'm saying we need more money.
Are you doing anything about it?
Yes, we are.
Are you doing anything about it?
We need more money.
I think she gave the game away, didn't she?
Yeah, we need more money.
Just keep giving us more money.
It doesn't matter about the candidates.
Just give us more money.
Give us more money.
You know, I think, well, Sean Hannity had some big news.
I don't know if you've talked about it, but George has.
Oh, have you got it?
Have you got the tweet I sent you?
Did I send you the tweet, Eric, from DC Drano?
Hang on.
Hold your fire.
Let's do it on live radio.
Millions of listeners.
Let's have dead silence until Eric gets the image up on the screen that I want to be up on.
No pressure, Eric.
I learned this from Jennifer Horne.
It's really good on live radio to have lots of dead air.
Did you teach me that?
I did.
I said, more dead air, the better.
And mime is also great.
Mime is great, especially when you hold up things for your radio audience and say, have a look at this.
It's really good.
You will believe it.
Eric, I'm still trying to kill time for you.
Are we good?
Did I send it to you?
I haven't said it to you!
How dare I?
Okay, I'm going to do it now.
I'm going to do it on my phone.
Poor Eric.
Poor Eric, he just has such a hard time with this crazy boss of his.
I'm just going to read it.
Okay, this is DC Drainer, who's a pretty Yeah, he's pretty good.
He says, now that Fox is moving Hannity to 8pm, Waters, Jesse Waters, to 9, and Gutfeld to 10, this means Laura Ingram has just effectively got fired from her nightly primetime show.
What's going on at Fox, Jen?
Yeah, so I think to the last piece you played, I think Sean is getting ready to be Tucker, right?
So he's probably toughening up a little bit.
Oh, that makes sense!
That totally makes sense.
He's trying to mag up to look more like Tucker.
He's got a MAGA up a little bit, so he's got to get tougher, got to change it up a little bit.
So I think that's why he was so hard on Ron and McDaniel.
And you see Reince Priebus in the bottom screen, just like quiet, like a little mouse.
The GOP is totally failing us right now.
We need to make sure we're relying on ourselves to organize within our communities, to make sure we're turning out, to make sure we ballot harvest, to make sure we're registering voters.
Small groups, grassroots can do that.
The RNC, unfortunately, is failing and failing miserably.
But on Fox, Drudge had it this morning.
And the story on Fox that... The shift.
The shift.
The shift.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's supposed to happen during the summer.
And yeah, you nailed it, Hannity.
And then Jesse Watters and Greg Gottfeld.
The question is, does Laura Ingraham go to four o'clock?
Or do they open up the spa?
Or excuse me, seven o'clock for you East Coasters.
Yeah.
Or does Fox open that up to someone else?
I think Lawrence Jones does a great job.
I mean, there are a lot of people who are young, up-and-coming talent.
But yeah, did Laura Ingraham just get 86th?
And what's she going to say about that tonight?
She's not one to go quietly.
No, no, no.
And what do you think the reason is that she's getting 86th?
You know, I don't know.
Do you have any sense as to why?
I don't know how her ratings are.
I would imagine that they go downhill, that it was Tucker and then Hannity and then Ingram.
But I don't know.
I can't say.
I don't know Laura personally.
I know her from the radio.
You're lucky.
Yeah, okay.
I won't say anything else.
You count yourself as a very lucky person.
All right, let's just move on.
Let's just move on from there.
In the meantime, follow this lady at Jennifer Horn, and maybe I'll get to decide what we talk about in the next segment.
I don't know.
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I've heard some stories.
Oh, she did.
Let's just say the staplers would really fly.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, Jeff used to be her producer.
Really?
Oh my gosh.
Why did I not know that?
He survived the longest.
He survived seven months.
That's really good, Jeff.
Was that, that's when you were at Radio America or where were you?
He's editing the third hour right now.
But he has, yeah, talk to Jeff about what it's like working for Laura Ingraham.
I think I, that's mildly I think in my brain that he did that.
You brought it back.
I'm gonna have them zoom me in because I feel like I'm zoomed out and low for some reason.
Oh.
Oh yeah yeah yeah.
There's a bit of headroom.
I know.
He zoomed it fast.
I was on a Salem conference call actually before and I ran in so we didn't line up as usual.
You know what really works about that Tucker t-shirt too?
You can tell that under the duct tape he's doing the Tucker face.
What do you think his show looks like on Twitter?
Steve Hilton just asked me that the other day.
What do you mean?
Like when he starts doing his own broadcast on Twitter.
What do you think it'll look like?
Yeah, what do you think it'll look like?
It'll be the Fox Nation studio.
It'll be the one that he built in Florida or Maine or wherever.
But you think he still just does the Tucker show or is it going to be different?
Look, if he's smart, he'd differentiate himself.
So not just duplicate cable TV.
I think, look, what's the key thing?
Everybody loves the monologue.
So he's got to have the monologue.
Definitely.
And then shake it up a bit, don't you?
I think he's got to shake it up.
I think he should go.
I think he needs to go a little harder.
I think it would be like kind of an uncensored, a Tucker Uncensored.
But he can't do what that what Megan keeps doing, which is just swearing on her podcast.
Oh, no, but you can't.
Okay.
Swearing is only good if, if you're pissed.
Yes.
And if it's placed in the right spot.
Yeah.
But to do it because you think it's edgy is like, yeah, just to overdo it.
And I know some people try to overdo it.
It's just not, I don't know.
Does he maybe go the Rogan route of just, like, one monologue and then maybe a guest for the rest of the episode for, like, a long-form interview kind of thing?
I think he could do something different every day, and I think he should.
Where do you stand?
Because this is the thing with my TV show.
I would love to do an hour with one guest.
You know, these, like, I've got three minutes with, you know, you when you come on or whatever.
I know.
Oh, tomorrow!
I'm so excited.
I'll meet you in Salem tomorrow.
I'll be great.
I tend to think less is more because most people are not interesting for a full hour.
But when you have someone who is, I would blow out Formatics and go for it.
But I think so many people that are talking heads in cable news are interesting for about
five minutes.
So – and I know on TV you can't really blow people out on the fly.
So you almost really have to have a producer who really does a great pre-interview that
says you're going to want a half an hour with this person or you're going to want
a long form.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
No, because I could talk to a Victor Davis Hanson for a couple of hours.
Oh, he's fabulous.
Yeah.
And he's really smart.
And he's also very well media trained, too.
So he can he can do it.
Oh, I've been listening to his podcast.
It's what I listen to when I'm swimming.
He is getting really spicy.
He's like doing impersonations of Democrats.
It's hilarious.
That's so great.
It's hilarious.
That's so out of character for what you expect.
I know!
It's like, what did I just hear?
He's imitating Adam Schiff?
What is going on here?
See, that's what I'm talking about.
When you drop a cuss word and it's unexpected, it's great.
Standby.
Stand by.
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You're not just listening to a show and having fun with us and getting information about breaking news.
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Can I play for you an audio clip from a young boy who He's vulnerable.
His father's in prison.
He feels alone.
He feels guilty for no reason, because it's not his fault.
His father committed a crime.
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We're back with our buddy Jennifer Horner.
I insist on having some fun.
I order it to be done today.
Let's put up a I think it's a Daily Mail headline, Eric.
I think I did actually send you this one.
I'm such a bad boss.
No, no, not that one.
Not that one.
The other one.
Oh, sorry.
See, I'm such a bad boss.
The New York Post headline.
The New York Post headline.
Let me just read this to you, because this is like, I want to give a little bit of heat to the New York Post, because they've gone like anti-Trump.
They broke the Hunter Biden laptop story, but somebody there has gone TDS.
And then this headline, this is actually, they wrote this headline in the New York Post.
Street horror.
Shaken.
Meghan and Harry involved in near fatal two hour paparazzi chase in New York City.
Problem number one, you can't drive at high speed around New York City for two hours.
Trust me, I was there recently.
There is no such thing as high speed in New York City.
And secondly, if there are no collisions, and I actually read the stinking article, if nobody hits anybody, if there are no crashes, help me out here, how is it, quote, near fatal, Jen?
You know, I don't mean to sound rude, but your mom called and she wants her story back.
I don't mean to be heartless, but these two, they just drive me nuts because they are constantly looking for a headline.
They are constantly looking for sympathy.
They're not even looking for just, you know, a good headline.
They want sympathy all the time from everybody.
I'm trying to burn the New York Post!
Evan, I know, but I had to give you a little Harry and Meghan.
I'm getting to the New York Post.
The New York Post up next with the near fatal collision.
You're absolutely right.
There is no such thing as high speed anything in New York.
And by the way, two hours, that is an argument that you need more police officers on duty.
I live in Los Angeles, and I know these car chases can go on and on and on and on, but this is a pretty small, relatively small area that they were going through.
A two-hour chase, and I love this, near fatal.
Near fatal collision.
I mean, you could step off a curb and twist your ankle and say, well, that was nearly fatal.
No, you twisted your ankle.
It's just sensational.
It's unfortunately where the news media is.
But these two, they're souping up the headlines, and the media loves to play along with them.
All right.
The post wasn't the only ones with the near fatal stuff.
How crazy.
All right.
Yeah, but the post, come on, guys.
You're the guys who are known for your really cool covers and headlines.
Ditch the TDS stuff, the trauma derangement syndrome, and get back to the cool headlines.
All right, this thing I got to play for you because Fetterman has put a suit on but it hasn't helped.
This is Fetterman at a hearing and allegedly, just let me tee this up, Fetterman is asking a question of a witness.
So just remember that word, question.
Play cut.
I didn't see any eagerness on the panel to answer your questions.
the tax papers, you know, that will bail no matter whatever does about a bank to crash it.
Chair?
Thank you Senator Fetterman. I didn't see any eagerness on the panel to answer your questions.
Thank you.
The chairman goes, I didn't see an eagerness on the panel to answer the question.
I mean, seriously, what was the question?
There wasn't one.
Holy smokes.
You know, they used to say the suit makes the man.
And so I guess Vetterman is looking good in a suit.
It's better than the old dirty, dirty sweatsuit, as President Trump called it.
But it's just it's sad watching this, watching Dianne Feinstein, watching John Fetterman.
These two are clearly not in the right frame of mind.
And I'm not trying to push anybody out of their elected office because you know what?
Let it go.
Let it play out, I suppose.
It's not my side of the aisle.
But if I were a Democrat, I would be seriously concerned.
And I'd also really, just as a human, like to know what John Fetterman's wife is doing for him right now, because this is terrible.
It's the same way I feel sometimes about Jill Biden, when you watch Joe and he looks completely wild-eyed and out of his mind.
Like, where are their families?
I mean, I feel sad for him.
Strokes are horrible.
I don't like his politics at all, but he's asking these goofball questions and just saying words, and nobody can understand what he's saying.
All right, let's have some fun.
This is another committee hearing.
This is Daniel Goldman, the successor to that person, Adam Schiff, being utterly destroyed by Julio Rosas, my town hall colleague, who actually literally wrote the book on Antifa.
Play the cut.
Gaslight us up here as if Antifa, which Mr. Rosas, apparently the expert now in organized terrorist activity, has overruled the FBI director.
Well, I think it's funny to be lectured by an heir to the Levi Strauss Corporation.
ideology, not an organization. No, no, no. Let's not listen to the FBI director. Let's
listen to, sorry, what's your title? Senior writer at town hall who is going to tell us
that the FBI director is wrong.
Well, I think it's funny to be lectured by an heir to the Levi Strauss corporation. And
honestly, that's probably why he doesn't consider property damage to be that big of a deal,
because not only does he have that, but he also has what some would describe an impossibly
good stock portfolio.
That left a mark, don't you think?
I loved that response.
And just flashback for a second.
This shows you how crazy the times are.
Because we used to appreciate the media for looking into people.
We didn't just trust what the government told us.
These Democrats love trusting the government.
I congratulated Julio and he used rather salty language because he's a former Marine and he said, never mess, quote unquote, using strong words with the Marine.
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I was really sick this weekend.
I had a fever and all kinds of nastiness, but I feel better.
It's just all kind of coming out now, which is probably good.
It's going around.
Oh, our entire team has it right now, except for Grant, because he was in Texas.
But he goes on the air for me on Monday, because I took Monday off.
And he says, ugh, Jen just, you know, she takes all this time off.
I came in with 108 degree temperature last week.
That you shouldn't even be alive.
108?
You'd be dead.
And so then he goes, well maybe it was more like 106.
So full of it.
He wrote to me and told me.
You need to reign that boy in.
I know.
I was like, are you serious?
And then he goes, and tell people to pray.
I was like, I have a sinus infection.
Like, I'll take a prayer, but holy smokes.
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Ever?
Ever.
Wow.
It's like, the things I hear about ear infections and sinus infections, Lord preserve me.
Lord preserve me.
Oh my gosh, one of my best friends just had her eardrum explode because of an ear infection.
Oh, please.
I was like, I don't ever want that.
But no, I think I'm on the other side of it.
Prednisone.
I just took Tylenol for the fever.
You look good.
You don't look under the weather.
No, I feel like I'm getting better.
It's just, you know, now it just sounds worse than it is.
But anyway, I will see you tomorrow and yeah.
All right.
We're going to talk about how they destroyed San Francisco and every other big city.
Oh, good.
OK, so the left's destroying San Francisco.
I got it.
I'll be ready.
Yeah, but we'll talk about Chicago, L.A., everything.
Perfect.
All right.
OK, good.
Good stuff.
I will talk to you then.
Bye, guys.
Thanks.
Bye bye.
Two minutes.
Chairman Schiff, there are such a...
Title for that one.
Um...
Thank you.
More lies about Megan and Harry.
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Or was it... Over Conspiracy Theories?
No, um... Destroys.
Destroys, okay.
I gotta change that right quick.
Elon Ben Shapiro's CNBC.
Yeah, yeah, whatever they use for Ben Shapiro's... Destroys, yeah.
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I asked you this in the last hour.
Let's put it out there so we can get some of your calls because I'm curious what you think of Elon Musk where he, you know, had that great interview where he crushed that CNBC A reporter, he was also asked about the whole working from home thing, which is now so common in the big cities after COVID.
And he had an unusual take, and I want to get your response to it.
Cut 14, the one and only Elon.
Look, there are some exceptions, but I kind of think that the whole notion of work from home is a bit like the, you know, the fake Maria Antoinette quote, let them eat cake.
It's like, It's like really, you're going to work from home and you're going to make everyone else who made your car come work in the factory?
You're going to make the people who make your food that gets delivered, that they can't work from home?
The people that come fix your house, they can't work from home, but you can?
Does that seem morally right?
That's messed up.
You see it as a moral issue?
Yes.
I mean, I see it more as just a... It's a productivity issue, but it's also a moral issue.
People should get off the goddamn moral high horse with the work from home policy.
because they're asking everyone else to not work from home while they do.
I'm curious a moral issue? What does my team think about that? I don't give them the option
because it can't be done from home and even during COVID we came into the office because
that's just who we are America first. Alex, moral issue working from home your response to Elon?
I mean I don't really think of it as a moral issue.
Okay That was very concise.
I mean, I don't know.
Eric?
I agree, actually, that it's a moral issue in the same sense that, as people pointed out, masks became more or less a class issue.
You know, like at the Met Gala, all the celebrities don't have masks, but the helpers and the waiters, they have masks.
So in that sense, yeah, I do think it is a moral thing.
Who can and who can't.
Mr. G, working from home, a moral issue.
Do you concur?
I went from not liking Elon to skeptical.
Now I like him a lot.
But with this, he's been For the last year saying, we've got to go back to work because it's a productivity thing.
For him to make it a moral thing, I think is kind of ridiculous.
Yeah, I need to hear the rest of it because I need to hear the argument as to why it is a moral thing.
That's what I'd like to know.
All right, let's talk to somebody who makes a truly obvious moral statement.
It's somebody who wasn't born here.
You can tell that from her accent.
And she's being interviewed in New York on Fox about the plan, the Democrat plan to house illegal immigrants in the gym, the gymnasium next to the public school.
And man, does she make it obvious that this is very, very dangerous.
Play Cut 7.
So the mayor's office will stress that the gym is detached from the school and you can see just behind you right here it's about 20 feet between the school and the gymnasium.
Is that too close for your comfort?
Of course, of course it is.
We're scared, we're scared.
We don't know and we don't have no concrete answers if these people have been in the process of being If they check the backgrounds, we don't know if we're getting rapists, criminals, killers, we don't know anything.
So we want to make sure of that.
God bless Rosie Velez.
She's not a mother, she's actually a grandparent, a grandmother of a child in the public school 172 in Brooklyn.
We don't know who these people are.
They are literally being led into the country with no background checks, with a mobile phone paid for by you, and with travel documents, and then given court dates for 2035.
And they're housing them next to concentrations of our children's?
Our children?
What's it going to take?
How many people are going to have to die from fentanyl?
Be mugged?
Be robbed?
Catch some disease brought here?
One is too many, is it not?
That's what the left always tells us about gun violence.
Why doesn't it apply to those that they are letting into this country with no background checks?
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Remember that was so offensive to immigrants?
She said rapists, murderers.
Oh, yes!
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
By the way.
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Right.
Oh, we didn't talk about the Santa to Kentucky.
Oh my gosh.
We've got to do that still.
You can do that in E probably.
You can squeeze that in.
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What do you teach?
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Nothing.
Nothing?
Are you one of those deans?
Yes.
Terrible.
I just used to hate grading papers.
That was my thing.
I just hated it.
I have messy writing to begin with, and when you don't want to do it, your writing gets even messier.
Yeah.
All right, we got a quote from McCarthy on the debt, and then I'm going to just let you loose.
All right.
Good.
30 seconds.
You'll tee that up.
Yeah, I'll tee it up.
All righty.
I'm going to do A Mac.
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The next cut I'm going to play you may shock you after having read the 307 pages of the earth-shattering Durham Report, after what we know about what China's doing, what Russia's doing with their bombing in Kiev.
The relatively new Speaker of the House had this to say about the biggest threat to America, Kevin McCarthy, cut 9.
If you want to continue to be the strongest nation in the world.
You know, when you talk to the Defense Department, not this year but years ago, they tell you the greatest threat to America is not Russia or China, it's the size of our debt.
It's the size of our debt.
That's fascinating.
Let's ask a man who should know.
He's the Dean of the Business School at Liberty University, former Congressman Dave Brat.
Dave, welcome back to America First.
Your reaction to the Speaker's threat assessment?
Yeah, well, I kind of agree with him.
I would personally put China on top of the debt issue, but On the other hand, $50 trillion in debt in the 10-year window by CBO is right up there because the last $7 trillion federal spending chunk, validated by the $9 trillion in Federal Reserve spending, has produced a swamp that is friendly to China.
And so, we would not have a border problem, the China problem, many of the other domestic
problems if we had downsized the size of our federal government.
All of these entanglements and endless wars with Russia, Ukraine, et cetera, have not
been dictated or asked for by the American people.
The open border has not been asked for by the American people.
So while I consider China to be the major existential threat of our day, the 50 trillion in debt and the federal government and all of the crooks that it enables, I think is right there with it.
All right, so I'm going to ask the kind of obvious, naive question from the non-financial, non, you know, dean of a business school perspective.
It seems as if we can just ignore this.
We can whistle past the graveyard because we just increase it year on, year on, year on, year on.
Doesn't matter.
It's irrelevant.
They're all drunken sailors.
They'll keep on doing it.
Why is that attitude wrong?
What is the eventual scenario that cannot be ignored or shouldn't be ignored?
Yeah, well that's exactly right, except for the one thing that has changed over the past couple years, and that's a thing called inflation.
So we had inflation at 9, it's now at 5, and it doesn't appear to be going away, right?
The best economic research says once you crack 8, you should expect to have 5% inflation for about 5 or 6 years.
So that's the best economics out there, the best forecast based on previous data.
And what does that mean?
Well, if you have $50 trillion in debt at 5% interest, that's $2.5 trillion in interest payments, just interest payments, which is three times our national defense budget.
And so you cannot live this way.
I mean, everybody's heard of Vietnam, right?
You can't have your wars and your consumption at the same time.
And so that's the new piece.
The inflation piece made the debt come alive because now you have to pay two and a half trillion dollars in interest payments in 10 years, right?
But it's already on the trillion and on its way to a trillion and a half before you blink.
And so that's the new reality that has forced us to take the debt seriously.
In addition to, you know, the consumer debt now is at 17 trillion, credit card debt's at a trillion, And retail sales are not what they ought to be, and we're going into a recession.
So we're going to really test the proposition and see what a real economy looks like.
When you take away all the sugar, what do we got left standing?
We're going to find out at the end of this year.
And your read of what you heard yesterday, that the talks kind of, I guess, stalled between the big four and the White House, they'll continue at the weekend.
Is this doomed to failure or will there be another kind of semi non-solution?
I'm afraid our side is, you know, these views are just my own.
I'm afraid our side is going to buckle.
You know, I mean, you're hearing just absurd numbers coming out, right?
We're 50 trillion in debt.
We started out with the heroic work by Russ Vought, clipping $17 trillion out of $50 trillion, leaving us with only $33 trillion in debt.
Then you hear the fighters gave in to just a $4 trillion haircut off of $50 trillion, leaving us with $46 trillion in debt going forward.
Now you're hearing that Biden, you know, he may cave on, you know, like $80 billion.
I mean, it's a teaspoon, right?
When you hit 80, and the list, the Republicans will say, yeah, look what we're getting.
We're getting this, this, and this.
But the numbers, just pay attention to the numbers.
And if it's not in the trillions, and if it's not at least 4 trillion, we lost.
We lost at the 4, right?
But it's a loss.
Few seconds left with Dave Brat, follow him at brateconomics.com and on gator
at brateconomics. What could a different president do? What could he do day one?
Is this all about the jockeying on Capitol Hill or is there something a chief executive could
actually do? Yeah, well, I'll tell you if you just peg to gold or you just peg to the Taylor rule in
law as as as chief executive.
That would send the markets a signal like they've never heard, right?
So that one move alone, and then you could make a bunch of, you know, working through all of the secretaries, you could make some major moves to incentivize human capital education, technical education for the kids to get them skilled up.
You could do a lot of good work that would give markets a forward-looking signal.
It wouldn't improve the real economy immediately.
But expectations matter, and so that's what you have to work with.
Well, we like gold, and the idea of pegging us back to the gold standard would be superb.
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Why don't you do... Durham had the... correct me if I'm wrong, brother, but that's the epic failure of Durham.
That shows you...
When you say the courts, there's got to be some kind of driver prosecuting.
There's got to be a prosecutorial attitude in the courts.
The courts aren't going to sit there and just get, like, God's demons to be true.
You have to bring cases before... Um, no, they haven't, uh, haven't been screened yet.
I think it's a regular caller, though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right, cut, cut.
Oh, sorry.
Go ahead.
Hi, what's your name?
Hi, what do you want to say?
I'm missing on that. I'll come in with it. Yep. All righty 45
And with Bannon 30 seconds.
I've got a title in mind for Professor Bratt.
Get us back on the gold, get the dollar back on the gold standard.
Alright.
Do you need anything else?
That's all.
We need to record this thing.
Oh, and cash as well.
Yeah.
And people come to me all the time.
Steve, why don't you spend more time at Durham?
Why don't you do this?
Durham had the, correct me if I'm wrong, brother, but that's the epic failure of Durham.
That shows you, when you say the courts, there's got to be some kind of driver prosecuting, there's got to be a prosecutorial attitude in the courts.
The courts aren't going to sit there and just like gods deem this to be true.
You have to bring cases before them.
Isn't this the epic failure of- Am I missing it?
I'm not a lawyer, but isn't this the epic failure of Durham?
You're not missing anything, Steve.
It is an epic failure.
The John Durham report proves the Russia hoax was a sham, but no prosecutions.
That's because Durham is a coward.
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SebGorkaStore.com That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A SebGorkaStore.com That's got a line one in Los Angeles, Pierre.
Yeah, hi, Sebastian.
Listen, we've had the contract with America way before and now recently.
Why can't we have something similar for the voters in which the candidates for office sign a pledge to the voters that they will undertake Those steps that are to be listed, I won't list them here.
No, we don't.
We don't have time for a long list.
We don't have a time for a long list.
And a contract like with America, like Newt did, that was when things were normal.
When the FBI and the CIA is being used to take down presidents, we don't have time for stuff like that.
Thank you.
And speakerphone's not good for radio.
Randy, Knoxville, line two.
Hey, Dr. Gorka.
Hey.
Hey, I got a, my wife, just to preface real fast.
You don't have time for a preface.
You got 90 seconds.
90 seconds.
Massive, okay, there's a massive increase here in East Tennessee of the Hispanic population.
You know, I'm in the home improvement business.
I'm on my fourth year here up from the Atlanta area.
My wife and I noticed, said, man, there's American guys doing construction sites, road crews, all that.
It's so different than Atlanta.
And just in the last year, man, that's all gone.
They're all Hispanic guys.
Do you think there are illegals being paid cash, Randy?
Absolutely, and I get it from the horse's mouth.
These contractor guys who are hiring them, they were just telling me the other day, Dr. Gorka, now these guys want 40 bucks an hour.
They said, we're not coming up to the lake unless you pay us 40 bucks an hour.
So, you know, they're getting westernized in this money.
They're seen because there's so many pajama boys who aren't working that are staying in their mommy's basement, I guess.
They're the only ones these guys, it looks like, can get to work, and now they're You're seeing that in Tennessee.
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I don't expect Mr. Putin to acknowledge it He's, you know, he's going to deny, deny, deny.
But for the President of the United States to continue to prevaricate on this issue, I think does a great injustice and a disservice to the men and women of the intelligence law enforcement community and does a great disservice to the citizens of the United States.
And that's why I said it was nothing short of treasonous.
Former Director of the CIA John Brennan calling the President of the United States Donald J. Trump a traitor.
What's problematic about that statement?
He, along with the Director of the FBI, knew as of the summer of 2016 that that was a lie.
And now we have the proof 307 pages of the John Durham report.
Can't imagine anyone better to dissect this today one-on-one.
Former prosecutor, counterterrorism prosecutor for the DOJ, former chief of staff of the Pentagon.
Welcome back to America First.
Kash Patel.
Hey Seb, it's great to be with you.
Now, I was texting with a very liberal individual who's, I'm trying to mentor right now, a young man, who didn't understand how President Trump could say this document vindicated him and how a conservative like Tom Fitton could say the document is an utter failure.
And I very simply texted to him, Why not?
This is proof positive that the Russia hoax was a hoax, but it is an utter failure because after 307 pages, this John Durham man says, well, no prosecutions, nothing's going to happen, la-di-da-di-da.
I know it's a rather concise summary.
I want your take.
We've got the hour.
Tell us about this document and your take.
Vindication and failure, or what's your understanding?
You know, Seb, I think you summed it up well when you look at it from two perspectives.
One, political.
And two, law enforcement and accountability.
When you look at it from political, Donald Trump should and will be screaming from the rooftops that he was unlawfully targeted, the FBI was weaponized, and they did it because it was him, Donald Trump, who was their target.
And they never had any basis to launch an investigation.
That is about as big of a political victory as you can get.
But in the same report, as you pointed out, tragically, we've suffered the greatest defeat we can from a law enforcement accountability perspective.
Our FBI and the goons at DOJ and the folks in the media and Adam Schiff carried on a treasonous lie they knew to be false for five plus years to rig a presidential election not once, but twice and going for a third time coming soon.
You would expect John Durham, after he outlined the criminality of James Comey, Baker, McCabe, Strzok, Lisa Page, Glenn Simpson, Clapper, Brennan.
that he would at least prosecute some of those individuals.
But he spent more pages on DOJ misguided policy and excuses than he did on saying,
you're charged, we'll see you in federal court.
And that's why it's both a win and a tremendous defeat for John Durham.
Yeah, so you've been in his shoes, not as a independent counsel or a special counsel,
but as a DOJ prosecutor.
We're not mentalists here but I've got to get your sense of why he did what he did because I too was told by people who Former U.S.
Attorney for the District of Columbia and others.
This is a good guy!
John Durham's the real deal in Boston and elsewhere.
He's actually put FBI, corrupt FBI agents behind bars.
Why then 307 pages?
Documenting the biggest scandal in modern American politics with zero consequence.
Is it because he knew the system was rigged after that Danchenko trial, after the other trial he knew 93% of, you know, juries in DC are Democrat, no point.
Or, as I think, the guy's just a coward.
Look, Seb, I was John Durham's biggest champion.
I was on your show for the last two years running, and now I'm going to be his biggest critic.
You don't have to be a special counsel to judge one.
You can be a former federal prosecutor.
And when you have the facts and the law to bring a case, you know what you do?
You bring it.
I didn't need to read 307 pages to know John Durham was going to fail.
His first page goes on to glad hand how great Merrick Garland is and how much he did not impede his process.
I didn't have to read the other 306 pages.
I knew he had failed.
Well, I did.
And I've got all these highlights in here.
The first seven pages.
The first seven pages are about how amazing the DOJ is.
Seven pages!
But you just captured it.
Remember, the reason that the crime, the criminals, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, et cetera,
Rosenstein and company, are just as bad as the coverup with Chris Wray, Merrick Garland, and the like, is.
is because all of those individuals have one thing in common
and now John Durham has proved he has that same thing in common.
They care more about protecting the institution of DOJ and FBI than handing out accountability,
especially when it calls into question the very institutions they so sacredly hold and love dearly.
And that's the same thing for Bill Barr and all the other clowns and government gangsters that led America to a two-tier system of justice.
And here's the loss.
This isn't a celebratory moment for America.
This is utter defeat that a two-tier system of justice will now continue at least through 2024.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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All right, I have so many questions to ask you, but first things first, just an obvious one.
Let's get it out of the way.
You're a former prosecutor, so you know the answer to this question.
What kind of crimes Could Durham have recommended be prosecuted?
If you know there's no evidence of Russian collusion, yet you initiate a tri-intelligence agency operation crossfire hurricane, you get FISA warrants excluding exculpatory evidence you know you must submit to that judge, what kind of crimes did those FBI and CIA and other government officials actually commit, Cash?
Well, let's just keep it simple, because that's all it is when it comes to charging documents.
A crime, it is a crime to lie to any federal investigator at any time.
It's a crime.
Brennan, Comey, Clapper, and McCabe, and Strzok all lied to federal investigators from Congress, to federal agents, to judicial officers.
It's also a crime to lie to a federal court.
That charge could have been brought by the FISA court judges themselves.
They are in on it and the cover-up as much as John Durham and Andy McCabe.
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
A FISA judge could initiate that charge to those FBI agents?
How would that look?
How does that work?
Simple.
You've heard of contempt of court proceedings?
They've charged our friends across the country with contempt of court proceedings.
How dare you lie to this court?
That's a separate felony that the judge must bring, and the cowards at the FISA court who signed the fraudulent documents know they were lied to, have initiated zero proceedings because they do not want to admit they got it wrong, they were bamboozled, and they were lied to, and most importantly, They don't want to put their friends in prison so they'll never have Comey and Clapper there.
And then there's the conspiracy charge.
This is a simple conspiracy when it comes to its application of law.
It is quite complex in its mechanics, but simple when you say, what did they do?
They conspired to defraud the United States of America and rig a presidential election.
That sort of conspiracy is a crime.
We call it a 371 dry conspiracy.
John Durham could have rang up the whole circus on this conspiracy and he failed to do so.
He outlined it extensively in his report, but then when he got to the end zone, he said,
I think I'm gonna kick the football a hundred yards the other direction.
And that to me is the most incredible showing of cowardice a prosecutor can produce at any one time.
You know what it reminds me of?
I mean he had no authority to do this but he did it anyway.
It's that notorious James Comey presser where he stands up for 13 minutes and chapter and verse all the felonies committed by Hillary Clinton with her classified information topped and tailed onto private unsecured servers and in the last 90 seconds he says But no, no reasonable prosecutor and judge would actually treat these to a court of law and to prosec... It seems to me exactly the same.
It is.
The only difference is James Comey, by law, cannot make a charging decision as the Director of the FBI.
So Comey's even worse.
He's even worse.
John Durham could have.
Yeah, and that's why he's a coward as far as I'm concerned.
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It's stunning.
You read this, you read all the footnotes where he's licking the backside of DOJ and all the hundreds of people that we interviewed and all the subpoenas we issued and the 6,000 pages of documents that we blah blah blah.
One problem.
The key architects were never interviewed.
Jim Comey, disgraced fire director of the FBI, Stroke, and McCabe, the people who actually engineered the Russia collusion inside the FBI, were never interviewed.
I don't know about you, Cash, but I don't think you'd write a 300-page document, say that your job is finished, without actually interviewing the key suspects.
Am I right?
Well, that is all you need to read in the document to know it's utter failure.
The targets of the investigation and critical witnesses that you just listed, plus let's not forget Kevin Clinesmith and Fusion GPS and Mark Elias and Sussman and company, who were never interviewed by John Durham.
They politely declined or whatever nonsense he used.
What happened to the power of a federal subpoena?
How is it that you didn't subpoena these investigators during your special counsel time?
Well, what happens?
Explain to us.
It's a normal human being if I or you refused a federal subpoena from a special counsel of the Department of Justice who's been empowered by the Attorney General.
What happens to us?
Can we just say, na-na-na-boo-boo?
We go to prison!
Oh, okay.
It's pretty simple.
Um, the power is amazing.
Let's do Kevin Clinesmith first, then I'll get to the subpoenas.
This guy actually pled guilty under John Durham for doctoring evidence before the FISA court.
No, no, no, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
I heard Rachel Maddow yesterday say he made a mistake on an email.
Ha!
Yeah, sure, okay.
She said it twice.
She said it twice, so it must be true.
It must be a legal defense.
But when you submit your guilt in court via plea agreement, Seb, you know this, you secure his cooperation, which means he must cooperate in your ongoing investigation.
What do you think Mueller did when he secured guilty pleas in all of his cases?
Why did John Durham give this guy a free pass?
Why did he not reinstitute his prison sentence for failing to cooperate?
Now the subpoenas.
You know what happens when these guys come in and they say, oh, I'm gonna plead the fifth.
Okay, no problem.
There's a mechanism for dealing with that.
You take them to federal court and you demand the federal judge issue them immunity.
How do I know this?
Because that's what happened to me.
And so what you do then is you put them on blast in federal court and they don't request immunity.
You are forcing it down their throats and then they have no reason under the law not to answer your questions.
John Durham could have done this for every single of the people you just listed and the fact that he didn't do it for even one And his out was, ah, they politely declined.
Tells you everything you need to know about the measure of a man as a prosecutor.
He was good before.
He failed in the moment when America needed him.
And it will now become a colloquial expression when the DOJ and FBI do not have accountability amongst themselves.
They will be Durham'd.
Explain the circumstances to all of our millions of listeners under which you were put through that.
It's very simple.
Remember the two-tier system of justice continues to tread on with Donald Trump's bogus investigation of the classified documents at Mar-a-Lago?
Yeah.
So they, the DOJ, doesn't call me or ask me if I can come in for an interview.
They just skip to the subpoena.
Okay, no problem.
I tell them I'm not participating.
I'm going to plead the fifth.
What do they do?
They go to federal court and get the chief judge of the District of Columbia, the federal district, Who then issues a resolution for immunity, which requires my testimony, which is what I do because I follow the law.
But if they can do it in a case, and this was before they had a special counsel, Seb, if they can do it in a case where there aren't special counsels, just think what John Durham could have done to Comey, to Clapper, to Brennan, to Kleinsmith, to Gina Haspel and Chris Wray, two of the architects and cover-up operators, and Kleinsmith and everybody else.
The fact that he failed, either he was obstructed, but after a seven page glad handing of Garland, he wasn't.
He, as a prosecutor, just lost the gut that it was going to take to carry this thing through.
And maybe that's why Bill Barr picked him in the first place.
Yes.
It was rigged from the beginning, just like the presidential elections, they rigged.
You mentioned Haspel, the former director of the CIA.
We'll talk about her in a second.
Ray, to me, seems like a coward, a meat puppet, a front man.
What is his role in all of this as the current director of the FBI?
Well, remember when he came in as director, Devin Nunes and I went to him and Rod Rosenstein and said, look, this happened after your watch.
Help us clean it up.
No, they doubled down.
And they authorized more FISA warrants under Rod Rosenstein's tenure.
And Chris Wray refused to provide us with the documentation that showed the corruption at the FBI.
He blocked congressional subpoenas.
He didn't want us to steal documents.
Excuse me, the FBI 302s, the Bruce Ohr statements, the lies to the FISA court, the evidence of innocence that the FBI withheld.
This is Chris Wray's role in covering up the crime of the century.
And now, fast forward after the Durham report is issued and Chris Wray puts out a bogus statement of his FBI saying, I have fixed all the problems and if my fixes were there in 2016, there would be no Russiagate.
Yeah, that two-sentence press release was an absolute disgrace.
Everything's fine now.
We changed our policies, so I guess hobbling an election is fixed by you issuing a two-sentence press statement.
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with me, who gets, um, inadequate attention,
who is one of the most oleaginous, slimy, creepy people out there,
is former CIA director and NSA director, I hate using the term general, I'll just call him Michael
Hayden, Who is one of these conspirators.
And I just want to illustrate for those who don't realize the depth of the corruption.
You've got a guy with more than 30 years in uniform as an Air Force General.
Rises to the top of the intelligence community.
And then he does what?
He does political campaign ads for probably the most corrupt president we've ever had, Joe Biden.
And here's the proof.
If there is another term for President Trump, I don't know what happens to America.
Truth is really important, but especially in intelligence.
President Trump doesn't care about facts.
President Trump doesn't care about the truth.
He doesn't listen to his experts.
The FBI says white nationalism is a real problem.
The FBI wants to do something about it, but the president doesn't want to talk about that.
He doesn't keep the country safe.
It's unbelievable.
I was 40 years in the military, okay?
Alliances are wonderful.
Alliances are win-win.
And now I don't know what's happening to our alliances.
I mean, if Trump gives another term, I think many alliances will be gone and America will be alone.
And that's a real, real problem.
I absolutely disagree with some of Biden's policies, but that's not important.
What's important is the United States and I'm supporting Joe Biden.
Biden is a good man.
Donald Trump is nothing.
Just respond to Michael Hayden talking to us about how truth matters and the real reason why Trump shouldn't be re-elected.
Truth matters from the guy who used to head the CIA and the NSA.
This guy authored the 51 Intel letter knowing it contained false information to rig a presidential election.
Truth matters to this guy?
This is the type of government gangster that operated in the shadows during the Trump presidency and thereafter to fulfill the same goals that Bill Barr, John Durham, Comey, Clapper, and the like did.
And that is to glorify themselves and the institutions and target politically one man, Trump, who was out to expose their fraud and their corruption.
And this guy talks about winning?
Under Joe Biden and keeping America safe?
Are you telling me we are safer in Joe Biden's America with an open border?
With CCP kicking our ass and killing our children with fentanyl?
With Russia creating World War III?
With terrorism on the rise and Biden's disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal?
Is that America winning and being safe?
Thank you, General Hayden.
Your 40 years of service has gone down the toilet and sits at the bottom of the resin pool with Adam Schiff and his new protege, David Golan, who both think that Russiagate, like you, never happened, and the Steele dossier had nothing to do with it, and no one's rigging elections.
That's just right-wing conspiracy.
You, sir, are a treasonous traitor, and that is the only definition left for you in American history.
I just, this idea that it was President Trump who endangered America after sealing the border, destroying ISIS, but this guy, this guy, what is, you know, you used to run the Pentagon.
This man was part of the letter of more than 40 former CIA officers, more than four former directors, including himself, who lied about Russia making up the Hunter laptop story.
I mean, how does making up a lie about a nuclear state ranked second in the world militarily, how is that not a vital threat that he engineered?
It's not because his cronies devised it together.
They perpetuated Russiagate on behalf of him to support one notion, and that is a Trump-free America.
And they are going to continue to do it again.
He's doing his commercials out there bidding for Joe Biden.
Russiagate 2.0, Steele Dossier 3.0, it's all coming.
Here's the good thing, Seb, we now know it's coming, and even the fake news mafia has called at least the Durham report devastating to the FBI.
So now they know we're not the liars, they are.
And we must capitalize on that movement.
And just, I think people miss this point, when the likes of Clapper and Brennan, who were in on this in the summer of 16, when they're briefing Obama. It's in the report briefing
Obama that Hillary's about to drop this smear campaign, the Steele dossier, Russia collusion, they
know about it, they know it's a lie. Durham said there was no evidence. Cash, they proceeded to
propagate that lie for seven years. They knew it was a lie. And yet John Durham didn't interview Michael
Hayden or Clapper or Comey. That tells you everything you need to know about the integrity of his
work during this report.
That guy has more excuses now than Adam Schiff ever will.
And that's saying something.
Yeah. And there's a university not far from where we sit.
That actually has a Michael Hayden center named after this person.
Yeah, you know, it does make you want to laugh.
All right, we've got three more minutes left with this man.
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You mentioned it just a few moments ago, Cash.
You talked about the fact that this is not a one-off report about one group of people committing one crime once.
This is the last seven years and multiple elections.
So I'm going to ask you as an operator, as a former prosecutor, as a former chief of
staff, as a former, you know, top dog in the intelligence community, what has to happen
before the next election?
We don't have the executive.
We don't control the White House.
Yet we know they tried to steal 2016 with the Russia collusion hoax.
They stole 2020 with multiple things.
Zuckerbucks, Dropboxes, 80 million mailed out ballots, and then the letter of the 51 orchestrated by the CIA.
What are we doing in the next 18 months, Cash?
What can be done by the good guys?
Only one thing.
Take this show that we just did and send it to every member of Congress that's a Republican in the House of Representatives.
And then tell them to subpoena every single person we talked about and put them on blast publicly.
And when they lie, which they will do, come 2024, we will prosecute them.
It's very simple.
The American people deserve more than accountability.
They deserve the truth.
FBI and DOJ aren't giving it to us.
Neither is the intelligence community.
The coverup continues.
But our congressmen and women can do things when they are in the majority.
They can issue congressional subpoenas.
And when they disobey those subpoenas, they can recommend prosecutions.
And we can prosecute those individuals in 2024 because the statute of limitations will have not run when they all commit lies by perjuring themselves before Congress.
So this is what must needs to happen.
They have to act.
They're the only ones that can act and put this information out and don't do it behind closed doors.
The American public are tired of government shutting their doors on the truth.
Andy Biggs said on the show recently that they must subpoena Hunter Biden and then they must impeach his father based upon the testimony.
I don't know if you agree with that.
Why are so many of the things happening today and tomorrow with Brennan and Clapper?
Why are so many of those depositions in Congress happening behind closed doors?
What are they afraid of?
Yeah, I get it.
If they're gonna do it behind closed doors to release it like in a week or two, fine.
No problem.
I got that.
I used to run Russiagate.
I did 70 of these things.
Interesting.
All right.
I think we got the strategic answer.
we release the transcripts.
And if they're doing that, that's great.
And I think we need to focus on more than just Hunter Biden and stuff.
We need to focus on this stuff that's tearing at our fabric of our community.
And the impeachment, I get it.
It's a political tool.
You know it's never gonna succeed.
So let's burn our resources where we can.
Issue a hundred subpoenas instead of doing one impeachment.
We'll get way more from it.
Interesting, all right.
I think we got the strategic answer.
Did you hear what he told you?
Take this show, send the links to all your representatives, your senators.
And maybe there's, I don't know, maybe there's a local sheriff out there
who wants to actually do some justice and arrest these people who have conspired.