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May 3, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: The nothing-burger Tucker texts

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	You You
	You you
	you you
	you you
	You When it comes to illegal migration you've seen it come down
	by more than 90% percent.
	Where did that number come from?
	It was I was speaking is telling us the number is I hear you.
	I'm about to answer.
	Six people.
	I'm about to answer you.
	You're so if you if the dramatics could come down just a little bit.
	The dramatics would come down a little bit dramatic about asking a question about.
	Okay.
	I'm I'm going to answer.
	So I was speaking to the parolee program.
	As you know, the president put in place a parolee program to deal with certain countries on ways that we can limit illegal migration.
	And we have seen, the data has shown us, that it has gone down by more than 90%.
	Stop the dramatics!
	The dramatics!
	I have a thing I need to read because I can't do my job as press secretary.
	Peter Doocy knows how to be a journalist and Corinne Jean-Pierre...
	Well, she's a black lesbian immigrant.
	So, uh, what was it?
	Oh, she's a woman as well.
	She said the three things, the three things.
	I'm a lesbian.
	I'm a woman.
	I'm black and I'm a grim immigrant.
	That's, that's Biden math.
	We know what qualifications she has.
	It's not because she's good on her feet.
	Reading a teleprompter or even prepared texts.
	90% decrease in illegal immigration.
	Yes, of course, my dear.
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	Where was it?
	New Jersey, wasn't it?
	That he won that seat with, what was it, $500 of doughnuts, Jeff?
	Yes, that's actually where I used to live.
	Really?
	If I was still there, I would have voted for him.
	I know you would have voted for him.
	You would have eaten one of his doughnuts.
	We'll have Senator Durr with us later this hour, Ed Durr.
	But let's give you some of the headlines.
	Oh, let's put the photograph up.
	He is armed at large.
	A reward of $10,000.
	The Atlanta shooting suspect.
	Doesn't look like a white supremacist or a Trump voter to me.
	Dayon Patterson is at large.
	One person dead, three wounded, armed and dangerous.
	The good news is the murderer of that family of five, including a young child, has been apprehended.
	I think we have his image as well.
	An individual who has been deported more than four, five times through the United States, murdered his neighbors.
	He has been apprehended.
	Not by the FBI, even if that says it on the photograph.
	Because the FBI, on the wanted poster, got his name wrong.
	Oh, and put the wrong photograph of the suspect.
	Because I guess they're too busy hunting down January 6th insurrectionists.
	So who arrested him?
	BORTAC.
	Yeah, the tactical unit of the Customs and Border Protection Service.
	The same people who, remember, Uvalde?
	As the local police, the Public Safety Office, were standing around for an hour in the corridor using the hand sanitizer as children were being murdered.
	Well, they didn't save anybody.
	Bortak agent went in and did what had to be done.
	Yeah, and now they did it again.
	We have the incredible story, not confirmed yet, of a drone assault, a drone attack against the Kremlin in Red Square being allegedly reported as an assassination attempt against that former KGB officer Vladimir Putin.
	Well, that's a really crummy assassination attempt because show that show that video again.
	Okay.
	Look where this UAV explodes.
	It explodes in the air.
	It doesn't look like it's shot down.
	If you're trying to kill somebody, you probably should have to hit the building first.
	I would think.
	Is it maskirovka?
	Is it desinformatsia?
	Is it classic Russian disinformation?
	We'll keep you up to date.
	We may even have to put a call in to our buddy Rebecca Koffler, former DIA senior Russia analyst.
	Other news of the day that we will be sharing with you.
	Manchin.
	Yeah, Joe Manchin, West Virginia, is hinting that he may abandon the Democrats ahead of 2024.
	Kyrsten Sinema is talking out against the Democrats.
	That's fascinating.
	We're going to have to discuss this at length on Friday.
	This is from American Greatness.
	We love those guys.
	Oh, it's by somebody called Eric.
	Eric, do you know which Eric wrote this, Eric?
	It might be the other Eric, whose name is spelled in the Norwegian way.
	Ah, the one who looks exactly like you!
	Yeah, my long-lost twin.
	My evil twin.
	All right, this is a piece from Eric at American Greatness.
	Watchdog, the IRS has spent $10 million on weapons, ammunition, and combat equipment since 2020.
	In three years?
	10 million?
	The IRS?
	Yeah, we're going to discuss that for sure.
	We also have Tucker Carlson's text stories.
	It's being leaked and we're going to give you our analysis on everything that it seems Fox is trying to do to smear Tucker Carlson after he left.
	Or maybe Disgruntled former employees that have tried to accuse Tucker of inappropriate behavior despite the fact that they never even met him.
	Yeah.
	Could it be former employees who were perhaps plants who were sent to Fox to collect potential dirt against a man who you don't have to agree with everything?
	I don't agree with him on Ukraine.
	But when it comes to conservative influence, who else out there is an influential, Eric, for the conservative movement outside of President Trump?
	Outside of President Trump?
	Outside of anybody you may work for.
	Who is as influential as Tucker Carlson?
	Not as influential as Tucker, but the only one I can think of who comes close is maybe Steve Bannon.
	Oh, okay.
	Mr. G, what's your take in terms of, you know, the rankings of influence in the conservative movement?
	Um, after Tucker?
	Yeah.
	Now, I would say with the traditional radio audience, it's probably Levin.
	No, just anybody.
	Anybody?
	You know, like media, like Bongino with his podcast.
	You've got about seven or eight guys that are kind of at the top.
	There's no one that really kind of sticks out like Rush Limbaugh was, you know, so much far ahead of everybody else.
	There's about seven or eight at the top.
	Yeah, there's like a little group.
	But what about you, Alex?
	You probably agree with Eric, right?
	Bannon?
	Yeah, War Room, for sure.
	Yeah, War Room, for sure.
	Signal, not the noise.
	I think he's the fan.
	Oh, he even knows the catchphrase!
	Signal, not the noise.
	Of course he knows that.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	I think if you take out Tucker Carlson, you do a dent because it's not obvious who the next person is.
	We'll actually read you some of the text because, hey, he's I wouldn't say he's a friend of mine, but we text each other.
	We've been texting him since Fox didn't let him go.
	It's interesting.
	They're actually paying him out.
	They're paying him out the millions of dollars to keep him quiet.
	We might have to do a t-shirt with Tucker's face on it.
	Yeah, let's do that.
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	We've only just started.
	I can see it, but yeah, it's those those kind of monologues Because also a lot of stuff gets lost and it helps me to focus as well.
	They can be a lot of fun like fast-paced obviously. I don't want to do them every day
	But I think it makes sense sometimes right because yeah also a lot of stuff gets lost and it helps me to focus as
	well What what does mr. G think? I've been thinking about before
	sometimes it makes better How we used to is mix in some of these headlines even you're
	not gonna get into them because there's so much sometimes, too
	You've just got to mention them.
	At the very least, yeah.
	Even like a couple things, you know what I mean?
	Guy, do you like the news rundown at the top of the show?
	Yes, sir.
	I really enjoy it.
	Good.
	And let's ask... Would he say no, though?
	Well, this is the question.
	Would he ever say no?
	I don't know.
	Mr. Stark, where do you stand on the news rundown approach to the A Block?
	Yeah, I like it.
	It's like coming up the back, you know?
	Take a few practice swings, introduce the show, the monologue, it's nice.
	Sometimes I just gotta roll with a mono, sometimes I just gotta give you a menu, right?
	Give you a little menu.
	Alright, let me listen to some of the ones I didn't get to in full.
	Give me, um... Give me four, uh, five, and six.
	Four, five, and six.
	Here's four.
	There is no person you can point to and say, oh, that person represents Antifa.
	Every time they see four black people, they think it's Antifa.
	No, to be honest, it's actually largely white.
	That's what we said!
	There are people online who openly identify as Antifa.
	They may, and I'm going to say, I think oftentimes things like Antifa are things that are thought up, ideas that are thought up and pushed and moved.
	Because for me, you know, if Antifa, if we go with the name... Anti-fascist.
	It's anti-fascist.
	So I don't know who's... Okay, I'm probably going to put that down if I use it.
	Sure.
	Please stop misusing the word genocide.
	It's offensive to Jewish people.
	Yes, he hears a thing, though.
	I'm not misusing the word.
	Transgender people are facing an act of genocide.
	Right.
	Okay, that's enough of that.
	Give me Sean.
	Seb, how are you?
	Good!
	It was great to see you.
	Thank you.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, come in with that genius, Joy Behar.
	Joy Behar, cut five, or three.
	Cut three, yep.
	No line. Marked it.
	I'd like to say something about Antifa because I looked it up.
	It's a highly It's not a highly organized movement.
	It's a moniker.
	It's not a unified group like the Proud Boys are.
	And more importantly, they are not endorsed by elected leaders the way these Proud Boys, for example, well, we know Trump said to the Proud Boys, stand back and stand by, which is a signal to them.
	Well, Joy Behar looked up what Antifa is, so you can take that to the bank.
	Maybe not.
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	patriotmobile.com slash G-O-R-K-A. All right, the last time I saw him in person, by the way,
	was at an event with Tucker Carlson and two and a half thousand of my closest friends.
	It was three days before Fox took him off air.
	They didn't fire him.
	We'll talk about that in a second.
	He's the founder.
	He's the CEO of that superlative website.
	It's The Federalist.
	And he's Sean Davis.
	Greetings, my friend!
	Good to see you.
	Good to talk to you again.
	Thank you for having me.
	That was quite a night with Tucker, wasn't it?
	With us and a few thousand of our closest friends.
	It was, and I generally don't go to stuff like that, but that was a spectacular event, capstoned by an absolutely amazing speech, a timeless, historic speech from Tucker that I think we all felt in the room at the time, you know, days before all the other events.
	It felt big and momentous and deep.
	Yeah, and everybody needs to watch it.
	I think it is the most popular video the Heritage Foundation has ever posted.
	I think it was like a million views in the first 48 hours.
	For those who haven't seen it, and everybody should, you can find it on my timeline on Twitter and Facebook.
	What was the most remarkable moment for you?
	Just mention one of them, Sean, if you would.
	I think it was just the clear elucidation from Tucker that all the battles that we're fighting now In Congress, taxes or climate or this stuff or that stuff, it all seems like a proxy war for a much bigger spiritual battle that is going on behind the scenes.
	And it's this spiritual battle that is the reason why we all feel the way we do.
	It's why things feel like they're crumbling, why they're falling apart, why half the country just seems so invested in being angry and ugly and awful and evil and violent.
	It was just nice to have that realization uttered by someone with his platform to make it clear to everyone the stakes of the battle we're facing.
	Let's talk about what's happened in the last few hours with the leaks of texts and videos about Tucker Carlson and why Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar are giving us lectures on Antifa, the political scientists that they are.
	So here's one of the Absolutely scandalous text, Sean.
	Let me run it past you.
	Mr. Carlson described in the text how he had recently watched a video of a group of men, Trump supporters, he said, violently attacking an Antifa kid.
	He said, it was three against one.
	Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable, obviously.
	It's not how white men fight, Tucker said.
	I would agree with that sentiment.
	If you're a decent member of the Judeo-Christian civilization, if you have to fight somebody, you do it in a way that isn't cowardly.
	What's wrong with the text, Sean?
	Nothing was wrong with that text, and I knew exactly what he's talking about, okay?
	I'm a middle-class white dude.
	I've grown up around middle-class white dudes.
	Middle class white dudes don't generally fight for keeps.
	It's a fist fight.
	It's the kind of fight you have with your bros when somebody mouths off.
	You mean we're not all John Wick?
	Correct.
	But there's a very different thing when you're just fighting as someone who's taken care of.
	Doesn't have to worry about things.
	Compared to someone who is, you know, they work with their hands all the day if they're working.
	When they fight, they fight for keeps because it's not just fighting for one's pride.
	You might actually be fighting for your survival.
	That's obviously what he was talking about.
	Everyone knows it.
	And then the text finished with him saying, you know what?
	I feel bad.
	I was hoping awful things for that Antifa person and that's wrong.
	Somebody loves that person, that person's parents love that person, and we shouldn't dehumanize people over politics.
	And that's the text they apparently thought was scandalous.
	What a hater.
	Something that we should all believe.
	What a hater.
	And by the way, the fact that the view are so dumb, I know their scriptwriters are on strike, but the fact that they're so dumb that they think that that text is racist because Because Antifa?
	Do they really think that Antifa is BLM?
	Are they that stupid, Sean?
	Is that possible?
	Oh, they're incredibly stupid.
	However stupid you think they are, take whatever your thermostat is set at in your office now, drop 20 off of it, and that's about where they are IQ-wise.
	I say this all the time about liberals in the media.
	Everyone kind of talks about, oh, they're wrong or they're deceitful.
	No, a bunch of them are just stupid.
	And I'm not saying that to be mean.
	They're objectively dumb people.
	It's true.
	It's true, especially in the press corps.
	Can we keep you over for one more segment?
	We have so much to discuss.
	Absolutely.
	All right, last part in this segment.
	I'm kind of like, if this is Fox's attempt to smear a man who's still on their payroll because they haven't fired him, he still has to fill out his contract, they're still paying him.
	Or if this is, you know, a disgruntled former producer that never met him.
	Sean, this is really thin.
	This is thin gruel.
	It is, and I put it on Twitter today.
	If this is the best that someone who's trying to take Tucker down has against him, They need to just retire, because it's embarrassing.
	Of all the things someone might have said over their entire career, their kill shot, which was leaked to the New York Times, was this guy chastising himself for not being more charitable towards someone who's his political enemy.
	That's the best they got, man.
	But I'll tell you what, I don't like seeing my friends fighting.
	I like Fox.
	I love Tucker.
	Tucker's been a good friend for a long time.
	It's just so bad for the country, what's happening, and it just breaks my heart that we all as a movement can't just be together, do what we need to do to win.
	And instead, you know, people are out there knifing Tucker and trying to get rid of him when he's probably the most effective spokesman for our side that we've had since Rush.
	Didn't we just say that literally 10 minutes ago, guys?
	We are having a discussion live on air about him being the most influential.
	That's why they have to do what they've done.
	I actually retweeted Sean's tweet before we started the show.
	Follow him, SeanMDav.
	He's got a good Twitter game.
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	That's I'm gonna show you did you see the new the the drag queen maybe recruitment video
	video.
	Oh my gosh, yes.
	Okay, we'll talk about that, but first I want to talk about this breaking story that Nashville PD has decided not to release the trans shooter's manifesto.
	So it'll play as B-roll because there's no audio, right?
	The Drag Queen?
	Yeah, B-roll.
	Yeah, okay.
	Alright.
	Oh, titles?
	Sorry, go ahead, go ahead Sean.
	I call it the Tranifesto.
	I don't know if that's AP style or Chicago style.
	Yeah, I think that's Chicago.
	We shall call it a tranny-festo.
	Oh, bloody hell.
	Mic's off, I've got to call the boss.
	Mic's off.
	You've got to be kidding me.
	You've got to be kidding me.
	I'm not going to be able to get up.
	Use Maxwantsmeanstudio at 9 o'clock for the whole hour.
	Oh.
	Mic's off.
	Mic's off again.
	Hey.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Are we good?
	Uh, no, you don't have to.
	They might have everything set up, Jeff, but I don't know.
	They'll probably set it all up.
	Did you hear that?
	Yeah, which one was that?
	Nine o'clock, co-host with Jen Pellegrino.
	I'll reach out to the one from last week.
	You'll do what?
	The producer, the one.
	Do you want me to reach out?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Would you ask him what plans they have?
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	Bye, Pilla.
	Oh, okay, good.
	90 seconds.
	So, I'm gonna use that.
	Oh, did I send you the, um... Uh, I need to send you this.
	Um, titles as well?
	Uh, hang on.
	No, this is... Just do this.
	Make a banner out of the Nashville thing I just sent you.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, alright.
	I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being destroyed somehow.
	you They really don't want it out there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, somebody needs to leak it.
	Somebody really needs to leak the manifesto.
	Amen.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, somebody with balls.
	You know that's the only reason the Wiener Laptop, we know about it, is those guys in the NYPD who said screw this?
	Yeah, they leaked it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, you'd know that, of course.
	Yeah.
	Wanna come in with something?
	Uh, no.
	I gotta do, uh...
	I gotta do my pillow, then I'll tee up the... I'll do the news from Nashville, and then I'll tee up the Navy video.
	News from Nashville, and then tee up the Navy video.
	By the way, did you see Wiener's thinking about running again?
	Who?
	Wiener.
	Yeah!
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that.
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	Sean, breaking news just moments ago from the Nashville PD.
	Despite those brave officers killing that transgender child murderer, apparently the bosses at the Nashville PD have refused to release the manifesto of the killer.
	Your reaction?
	I wish I could say I'm surprised.
	I'm not, unfortunately.
	Nashville's mayor is a hardcore left-wing Democrat, and just like in many big cities, that's who the police work for.
	The police chief knows which side his bread's buttered on.
	And I think we all know exactly why this thing isn't coming out.
	We know what's in there, because they hinted at it initially, that it was a plan that these children and these teachers were targeted because they were Christians.
	And when people started talking about it, we got banned on Twitter, we got censored, we got silenced, because it destroyed the left-wing transgender narrative that they're always the victims and everyone else are always the perpetrators.
	That's the real reason they're not ever going to let this thing see the light of the day, and they should all be ashamed of it.
	They should be ashamed of themselves and hang their heads in disgrace.
	Let me connect some dots.
	I saw this earlier today, and I thought it was a parody.
	It's not.
	This is a member of the US Navy, a serving member, with his name on a video.
	who is the drag queen recruiting face of the U.S.
	Navy, Joshua Kelly, in Navy uniform, in drag queen outfit.
	These things are not disconnected, are they?
	The murder of children by a transgender killer and then the state organs normalizing this sexualization, this perversion.
	Sean, these are not disconnected, are they?
	No, they're not.
	It's just a sign of a continued crumbling of society and civilization that this is the kind of nonsense we tolerate.
	And I thought it was fascinating.
	I saw Rob O'Neill on Twitter, a former Navy SEAL, the guy who reportedly killed bin Laden in the compound in Abbottabad.
	He commented on that, and he said, I can't believe I fighted for this nonsense.
	He used a different word there.
	There's a reason the military is having a problem recruiting people, and it's because they spent 20 years Fighting wars we don't need to fight, with no strategy, with no plan to win.
	They've been sending young men off as cannon fodder, and they're surprised, after people watch that, why they don't want to join the military.
	And their response to that is to put out a drag queen to get people in.
	I mean, I'd like to say, or it makes me sad to say, I think we're going to lose a major war very soon, but we've already lost several in my adult lifetime, and I'm not that old.
	It's absolutely shocking.
	The most powerful nation in the world that seems incapable of fighting wars but has a chair of the Joint Chief who's proud that bigotry like critical race theory is taught at West Point.
	I've got one more question for you, but Sean, these chats are far too enjoyable and far too short.
	Could we have you on for one of our one-on-one longer interviews?
	I'd love that.
	That'd be great.
	Okay.
	We'll set that up on Skype, but here's, you know, changing subject.
	How concerned are you?
	that the problems with the 2020 election will not have been solved by the 2024 election?
	I'm extremely concerned, almost to the point that I'm kind of bored by the
	2024 jousting that's going on in the Republican primary.
	I mean, I saw what happened in 2022 in Arizona and Georgia in an election environment that was 180 degrees different than 2020, and the results were exactly the same.
	And our party leadership just doesn't seem to be interested in fixing these problems.
	Yeah, I wanted to ask you that because I wanted to set up our discussion and you've done it for me as I expected.
	We will dissect that further.
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	At a superb event for the second year in a row.
	It's organized by Elizabeth and George Nader.
	It's called A Seat at the Table and it's not about the establishment Republican GOP because they're pretty useless.
	It's about real conservatives.
	It's about people who love this country with all their heart.
	People like the trucker.
	Ed Durr. Or should I call you Senator Durr? Welcome back to America First, Senator Durr.
	Thank you, Seb. Yeah, that seated table is a great event that Elizabeth and George put on.
	Yeah, it's absolutely superb, and we met for the first time a year ago there.
	You are the man who famously rode into the Senate on $500 worth of Dunkin' Donuts, but apparently the establishment doesn't like you, even though you are a husband, a father of three, a grandfather of six, a conservative, and a truck driver.
	Tell us about what's happening on April the 27th.
	Well, you know, I'm being challenged by the establishment.
	They're putting up a tool in my, you know, for their apparatus to take me out because they tried to change me.
	I went to Trenton for the people, you know, argued, you know, on their behalf and they thought they could change me and I wouldn't change.
	Oh, we lost you.
	I think the story is a classic story that somebody who's not a politician comes into politics and the machine tries to change him.
	So, Senator Durr, tell us a little bit about your journey.
	So, they thought they could just turn you into one of them, another swamp creature?
	Well, yeah, yeah.
	They thought that, you know, I would go along with their narrative and I've been pushing back ever since.
	You know, I argue you know, against the establishment. I've called Murphy out
	for the outrageousness. I don't know if recently you heard that he actually said over the
	weekend that it was his money to dictate and spend how he sees fit. No, that's not his money. It's the
	taxpayers' money. And more importantly, it's the legislature who plays an equal part in, you know,
	allocating the funds as how they go out.
	But no, Governor Murphy believes that he is a king.
	He even said it recently when he went and spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on carpet for the office and said he wanted it to be majestic because he feels he's a king.
	Hundreds of thousands of dollars on office carpet?
	Yeah, one carpet alone is $114,000.
	How many doughnuts could you buy for $114,000, Ed?
	We would need that weight loss.
	Yeah, I know.
	You'd give them away.
	We don't have to eat them all ourselves.
	But that's outrageous.
	That's like Ceaușescu's Romania.
	$114,000 for one carpet.
	All right, let's support this guy.
	It's EdTheTruckerNJ on Twitter.
	It's EdTheTruckerNJ on Twitter.
	The website.
	is EdTheTrucker.com, EdTheTrucker.com, third district of the Senate of New Jersey.
	So tell us about why people in New Jersey in the third district should support you and why this primary is so disgusting.
	Well, you know, I feel that I am the true conservative.
	I stand up for the people.
	I understand the actual need.
	You know, I've been pushing it back against the agenda where I'm out there fighting for.
	I'm not here to promote myself to glory and, you know, take photo ops with Democrats as my opponent does.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Your Republican primary opponent?
	Likes to hang out with Democrats and take selfies?
	Oh, absolutely, yes, yes.
	She's been seen and, you know, and she likes to brag about her Union League representative.
	Well, you know, I'm not playing.
	I enjoy hanging out at the local Elks Club.
	Or, you know, the establishment and talking to the real people because that's what I am.
	Hey Jeff, help me out here for a second, Jeff.
	How many photographs could you find anywhere on my phone online of me hanging out with Democrats?
	I mean, apart from my mother-in-law.
	I would say probably zero.
	Except for the one in the Rose Garden with the Democrat.
	You mean the guy who wanted to fight me?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's not exactly a selfie.
	That's really weird, Ed.
	That's so weird.
	Alright, so tell people how they can support you right now and how they vote.
	Well, the primary is June 6 here in the third legislative district, which consists of Gloucester County, Salem County, and Cumberland County, New Jersey.
	And I am in column B in Gloucester County, and I have a ticket of my assemblywoman, Bethann McCarthy-Patrick, and Tom Tedesco running with me.
	You know, all they have to do is go into column B in Gloucester County.
	I'm the second slot in Salem County, and I'm column A in Cumberland County.
	Just get out there and vote because we need the votes, you know, because we've got to push back against the system.
	The system's trying to take us out.
	They don't like real people, but you know, Tom and Bethann are just like me, just regular working folks who's just trying to do the best for the people.
	Yeah, I know Tom as well.
	We're all here for the power.
	It's the American way.
	We created a system so that we could have citizens in political positions, not politicians.
	We believe As with President Trump, that we are citizens, not a special class of American.
	It's EdTheTruckerNJ on Twitter.
	Support this man right now.
	That's at EdTheTruckerNJ and then EdTheTrucker.com to support him right now.
	We need more like him.
	EdTheTrucker.com.
	God bless you.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
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	833-33 Gorka.
	Sound off on the stories of the day, whether it's the transgender US Navy recruiting video, Whether it's the Tucker texts or anything else, 833-334-6752.
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	www.circlelineartschool.com www.circlelineartschool.com
	So, obviously the border is not secure.
	Anyone with eyes can see that.
	And anyone who lives in a border state like I do, born and raised in Arizona, actually takes offense at comments like that because they're just factual.
	James Corden is on his way back to England.
	But the rest of them are all shut down because their writers are on strike.
	And that's one sure way to make those shows funnier.
	Who knew they had writers?
	That's like finding out Brian Stelter had a personal trainer.
	James Corden is on his way back to England.
	But the rest of them are all shut down because their writers are on strike.
	And that's one sure way to make those shows funnier.
	Who knew they had writers?
	That's like finding out Brian Stelter had a personal trainer.
	I mean, really, the writers are on strike.
	Is anybody going to notice on those crummy late-night TV quote-unquote comedy shows?
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	But shocking to my merch team, they had to make a cult for an ecro.
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	Get it today at sebgorkastore.com.
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	Waiting so patiently on line one.
	It's Don from Los Angeles.
	Hey, Don.
	Dr. G, how are you today?
	I'm good.
	I am highly caffeinated, if you can't tell.
	Ah, good.
	That's the way God keeps you on your toes.
	All right, what brings you to our shores today?
	Well, enemies without enemies within.
	Yes.
	Real quick, I'd like to hit Ukraine and Antifa, if I could.
	Yeah.
	You know, the thing with the Ukraine so-called drone, it makes us remember that Mr. Putin is the man who had the KGB blow up apartment blocks in Russia to justify attacking Chechnya.
	Yeah, killing Russian citizens with Secret Service bombs to justify not only the war in Chechnya, but his election as Prime Minister, as President.
	Yeah, so I mean, this right out of the same playbook.
	I was surprised so many people on our side, Dr. G, get it wrong.
	Somebody was saying that, oh, this, the Chechen, I mean, the Ukrainians are rounding an offensive.
	And, you know, that we're not, shouldn't be funding an offensive war.
	It's like the offensive is against the Russian troops in Ukraine.
	Yeah, when you invade the country, guess what?
	It's called a defensive maneuver when you're trying to get rid of them.
	Don, You so nailed it.
	I'm so, so shocked by those on our side who don't get it.
	Russia invading other countries is bad, and KGB colonels are bad.
	Let's have a bit of clarity.
	Let's go to Randy.
	Thank you, Don.
	Let's go to Randy.
	Knoxville, line three.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey.
	I want to wish you a happy holiday tomorrow, of course.
	Go on.
	May the 4th.
	I know.
	I will be watching my favorite Star Wars.
	Which is your favorite, Randy?
	Oh, I like the original.
	Yeah, the original one, right?
	Yes, yes.
	A New Hope.
	You don't like Empire?
	I like it very much, but there's just something about that first one.
	When I was 13 years old, my dad took me to it.
	It just... It makes you feel good, right?
	Absolutely.
	Empire's a bit dark.
	It's a little darker, but hey, it was done.
	Is that why you called in today?
	That's so nice.
	Well, that was the main reason, but I also wanted to mention, since you were talking about... We got 20 seconds, you gotta be quick.
	Chris Christie today on the Hugh Hewitt Show said, Donald Trump does not care about our country.
	Oh my gosh.
	Plain and simple.
	I've had it.
	All right.
	Find that audio.
	Thank you, Randy.
	I'll be commenting on it.
	Really, Hugh?
	Chris Christie?
	Oh dear.
	We'll be back after these messages.
	Just wherever you are, whatever you're doing, stay on this channel.
	I'll see you next time.
	Bye.
	you you
	you this hour of America first starts right now on Salem News
	Channel you
	Bye!
	Well that was a big nothing burger.
	The so-called Tucker texts.
	Is that the best they've got?
	We'll analyze hour two America First along with the fact that there's a riders strike at SNL and nobody noticed.
	And the real joke, the U.S.
	Navy has gone full drag queen.
	All that and so much more, special guest, hour two, America First, be there.
	The Doctor is in America first with Dr. Sebastian Gorka on Salem News Channel.
	The antidote to the mainstream media.
	We'll be right back.
	You You
	You Test, test, test.
	1, 2, 1, 2.
	I think it looks good.
	Yep.
	All right.
	Thank you very much, Jen.
	M3.
	Perfect.
	Okay.
	All right, 80 seconds.
	Mic's are on the video feed.
	Yep, thank you.
	Mic's are on.
	Mic's are on.
	Don't say anything embarrassing.
	Hello!
	Hello!
	How you doing?
	Dude, I was up at crack of dawn.
	I spent five, six hours shooting the last episode of my TV show, and then I ran to here, so it's like an average Jennifer Gordon workday.
	That is so cool, though!
	We've wrapped.
	After ten months, we've wrapped.
	Did you have a big party?
	They bought me a cake with aliens on it.
	It was great.
	Oh, that's fun.
	Yeah.
	I tried to get a clip, but it's...
	It's still rendering.
	Our conference?
	Oh yeah, it's ridiculously long.
	But!
	That's what I'm trying to pull it from.
	Our conference?
	Yes.
	Oh yeah, it's ridiculously long.
	But you should watch every bit of it.
	It's mandatory.
	Mandatory.
	All members of my staff will have to watch all six hours twice!
	And then write a report.
	And write a report.
	I'm sending you pictures from the event, Eric.
	Okay.
	Oh, besides the ones you already sent?
	Yeah.
	Oh, and yeah, I have to use those as well.
	Okay, I got it.
	Well, at least don't use the book signed one of the three I just sent.
	Oh, okay, I gotta do that again, then.
	Hi, this is President Trump, and Sebastian is really a friend of mine.
	He's a great guy.
	He's been with me from the beginning.
	Listen to him.
	We all learn.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Is it hour two already?
	How did that happen?
	That's a bit crazy.
	That's what happens when you have three coffees and two Pepsis.
	Just don't tell my wife.
	It'll caffeinate.
	It was a diet Pepsi, okay?
	PhD, we're good.
	Finish shooting my new TV show today.
	Ten months.
	Ten months.
	It's a wrap.
	It's called Conspiracy Chronicles.
	I haven't mentioned that before, but that's because I love you.
	Stay tuned to my social media for more information.
	But now let's have even more fun with a lady who is just the most gracious of hosts and a pretty mean radio host as well.
	Her name's Jennifer Horne and she keeps California sane.
	Hey Jen!
	Hi!
	So glad to be here, and congratulations!
	I love this Conspiracy Chronicles.
	That's right up my alley.
	Oh, it is so much fun.
	Katie and I wrote the scripts.
	We found an amazing team to produce it for us.
	We filmed it down the road in a Hollywood-level studio, but it's run by conservatives.
	No names shall be given, because the left are insane.
	And hopefully you'll be seeing it on a streaming platform or a cable platform in the not-too-distant future.
	And it might be the beginning of a beautiful thing.
	All right, follow this lady right now at Jennifer Horn.
	Also, see our end talk every single day.
	She is saving Los Angeles and California.
	So much to discuss with you.
	Let's talk about our event.
	Sorry, our event?
	Your event!
	No, it's ours!
	Come on!
	Ours.
	You're so polite.
	You hosted along with Grant Stinchfield the Unite IE conference where I did a little bit of book signing.
	We had a wonderful event with lots of, I had to do actually multiple, I think I did three different book signings that day to a crowd of amazing conservatives, like eight, nine hundred people.
	I think we practically sold out of all of the books we had there.
	And then we were on stage with some amazing people, Sheriff Villanueva, We had Brandon Tatum, we had Larry Elder.
	I was worried about the amount of people on stage.
	And then this guy, the Assemblyman, Bill Esalie, right?
	That's right.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Bill Esalie, who's fantastic from the 63rd District, right in the Inland Empire actually in California.
	A Republican, one of the what, 18 Republicans in the State House?
	He's going to come.
	He was so impressive to me.
	Thank you, Jen.
	He's coming on my Newsmax show this Sunday.
	Did you know, he came up to me and he said, I was in the room when you lectured the San Bernardino U.S.
	Attorney's Office of Counterterrorism Prosecutors like six years ago.
	Did you know that?
	I did not.
	He mentioned to me at the conference, he said, you know, I got to see Dr. G in a different light, essentially.
	And then somebody came over to us and we never got to finish.
	But that's what it was all about.
	All right.
	So now what did what did he say about what you told them?
	It was hilarious.
	So you know my shtick for years I was training, you know, the bureau and the military on how
	to understand what Al Qaeda and ISIS want.
	My job was to understand the ideology of jihad and explain it to our operators.
	He was the only Muslim in the room.
	He's a Muslim.
	He's a Republican.
	He's a Muslim.
	He's fighting the transgender garbage.
	And he said, you know, that that lecture you gave on Al Qaeda and ISIS was deemed by many
	in the room to be provocative and inflammatory and anti-Muslim.
	And I had to tell them, I'm the only Muslim in the room.
	And he was exactly right about jihadis.
	And you're not a Muslim.
	I love that.
	So he was the one in the room going, wait a second, don't be offended on my behalf.
	No, he actually said what Gawker is saying is offensive if you're a jihadi, but I'm a Muslim.
	You should shut up.
	Exactly right.
	Oh my gosh.
	That's too funny.
	He's fantastic though.
	Isn't he fabulous?
	Oh my gosh.
	Let's talk about the things I learned.
	Well, we'll talk about that in a second.
	We've got time enough.
	We've got to talk about the news of the day.
	I want your response as a media, trained media expert with regards to the further Tucker story.
	The texts that they're leaking Like the biggest nothing burger I've ever heard.
	The fact that he actually sympathized with an Antifa kid that was jumped by three men.
	And this is the response from that amazing political analyst Whoopi Goldberg on that amazing political show The View.
	Cut four.
	There is no person you can point to and say, oh, that person represents Antifa.
	Every time they see four black people, they think it's Antifa.
	To be honest, it's actually largely white.
	Well, that's what we said.
	There are people online who openly identify as Antifa.
	Well, they may.
	And I'm going to say, I think oftentimes, Things like Antifa are things that are thought up, ideas that are thought up and pushed and moved.
	Because for me, you know, if Antifa, if we go with the name... Anti-fascist.
	It's anti-fascist.
	So I don't know who's doing what.
	I do know that If you had asked a number of people of color about Tucker Carlson, we could have told everyone what he really felt and that this wasn't an act.
	This was who he was.
	Do they know that Antifa is not BLM?
	I mean, are they that thick?
	Happy for Whoopi Goldberg because it seems that she is really out of touch with reality and so I guess that's a congratulations to her that she's made enough money to stay away from the problems of the rest of the world because clearly she doesn't know what she's talking about and she's buying in to this idea on the left that Antifa is an ideology and not a group of people.
	And I will tell you, you mentioned Sheriff Alex Villanueva.
	I don't think I'm speaking out of school and if I am he will tell me.
	He is a Democrat, former L.A.
	County Sheriff, but he actually went to work and he did his job.
	And when he did his job, he upset a lot of Democrats and a lot of leftists.
	He will tell you that Antifa showed up to his home.
	Antifa showed up to the home of the former D.A.
	in L.A.
	County, Jackie Lacy, who, guess what, is black.
	They showed up to try to intimidate, to try to hurt these people, and they are very, very real.
	And if you don't think they're real, you are insulting the people of color Including Jackie Lacey and Alex Villanueva who were harassed and threatened by these groups of individuals who are very proud to tell you that they're in Antifa.
	So it really irks me when people like Whoopi Goldberg say, I don't know what you're talking about.
	That's not a real thing.
	As the people who have been threatened and had guns held to them, If it is a real thing.
	It is not Black Lives Matter.
	It is a separate group of people who were out there.
	I believe they were there on January 6th at the so-called insurrection.
	I believe that they were at every single riot during the summer of 2020.
	They are there.
	They are troublemakers.
	You can say they're great, that they're anti-fascist, they're anti-government, they're anti-society, and they're anti-you.
	If you have something, they don't.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And on the text, I just think this is a big nothing burger.
	Oh my gosh.
	If this is the best you have to smear Tucker, I mean, this is a joke.
	If anything, it's only making him look like a better person.
	I've actually grown more fond of Tucker since he's been fired at Fox than I was when he was actually on Fox.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Fake news alert from Jennifer Horne.
	He wasn't fired.
	That's true.
	Okay, fine.
	This is the latest.
	This is the twist in the story.
	That's true.
	Okay, so since he parted ways, that's probably the best way.
	He's still on contract.
	They're still paying him millions of dollars to keep his mouth shut so they can't see him, so he's forced not to be on another platform.
	That's how Someone came up with this this morning.
	It might be your host.
	This is our latest t-shirt.
	I love this.
	Is that good?
	That is great.
	Let Tucker speak with Tucker's head and some duct tape with Fox News.
	Because you don't have to agree with Tucker, but why are they trying to... Let him speak.
	Jennifer, why are they trying to gag him?
	Because he's a truth teller, and they're trying to gag everybody that tells the truth.
	And so, here's the thing with Tucker Carlson, these messages that Media Matters has released, that the New York Times was all excited about getting a hold of, if anything, it shows you the thinking process of Tucker Carlson.
	So, probably by far the worst one is the one that they're trying to paint as racist, when he seems to be taking into it, when he says, you know, I was rooting for these January 6thers, and then I realized, when they're beating up this Antifa person, that he has someone who loves him.
	How is that How is that wrong?
	How is that bad?
	He feels sorry for the Antifa kid who's jumped by three guys and says they're not fighting honorably because they're jumping him and outnumbering him.
	So he's actually making an honorable statement, sympathizing with the people who utterly hate his guts.
	That's right.
	And this is the smear, Jen.
	Yeah, this to me shows the thought process of Tucker Carlson and that he's a good person.
	You know, if you needed any more evidence, I don't know what they're trying to get here.
	And then Media Matters coming out and releasing some of the recorded conversations from Tucker Carlson, where he allegedly calls a woman yummy.
	If you listen to the whole thing, he says, well, the girlfriend's yummy.
	Not that I've ever seen her.
	OK, Media Matters.
	I'm kidding.
	How many of us?
	I mean, Seb, you know this.
	When we have our conversations off air, We always know there's a microphone on.
	You always have to remember that.
	Of course, and he knows that, and he's mentioning media matters.
	Listen to this woman right now, AM 870, AM 590, The Answer, at Jennifer Horne.
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	I like this shirt.
	Is that good?
	I came up with that!
	That's great!
	That is so great!
	I love it!
	Alright, we gotta talk, um...
	What is what I want?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The Biden, you have seen the Biden's drive guys, the racist video.
	No, what is this one?
	It's back from when he was a senator.
	Well, I love that.
	Then what else is good for I want to hear you tell me what you learned at the conference because Oh, my gosh, yes.
	And then I sent you stories on the latest with reparations.
	Now we're up to 1.2 million.
	All right, reparations.
	And a lady got attacked at a Subway, and the people got mad at her because she jumped over the counter to hide from the homeless guy who was threatening to shoot her.
	Who got mad at her?
	The Subway staff, apparently.
	Oh my gosh.
	I hate Subway.
	Subway has the worst bread.
	It's gross.
	It's like a yoga mat.
	It's like taking a toilet roll and munching on a toilet roll.
	You know, it's really sad because Subway, I thought, used to be good, but all the other sandwiches are by far so much better now.
	Yeah, it's like a yoga mat.
	A little tough and chewy.
	And it doesn't matter what bread you choose, they all just taste awful.
	It's all about the same.
	I think they just decorate the top.
	Ooh, we got a partial building collapse.
	Where is this?
	CA?
	I don't know.
	Citizen just updated me.
	A citizen?
	Citizen app.
	Ooh.
	A Glendale app.
	Ooh, that's Glendale.
	Yikes.
	Can I get titles real quick, Seb?
	Uh, yes.
	Monologue, Davis, Todd.
	Monologue, Davis, Nashville Police, Hides, Killer's Manifesto.
	Okay, and monologue?
	Um, monologue.
	I did everything.
	What else did I talk about in the monologue?
	You talked about Russia, you talked about the IRS, the Atlanta situation.
	Yeah, but what thematically did I do?
	Was it just a news summary?
	What was it?
	The first thing that came in with the Kareem Jean-Pierre with the 90% thing.
	The immigration, yeah.
	No, that was... What?
	I lost you.
	No, that was the monologue.
	Is that the pre-record of the monologue?
	No, but... You did both.
	The other one from today was the monologue.
	Yeah, uh, I opened with that.
	Oh, Doocy, okay.
	That was ridiculous.
	Then you went around and you talked about Tucker and who was the... Oh yeah, the Bannon, Tucker Bannon, who's most influential.
	Oh yeah!
	Who could take Tucker's place?
	I didn't actually say that, did I?
	It's close.
	After Tucker, who's the most influential?
	After Tucker, who's the biggest conservative?
	Who is it?
	What?
	Who is it?
	Well, we said in terms of influence.
	Jeff said there's like, you know, six or seven of us.
	But in terms, you know, we had two bids, I think, here for Steve Bannon.
	Okay.
	What do you what do you think?
	As far as influential, I think Bannon's on the list for sure.
	Right.
	That's the thing.
	There's no clear cut person.
	Yeah, there really isn't.
	Like, it was Tucker for TV and Rush for radio.
	Right.
	And now it's kind of... Well, first it's DeSantis and there's a big gap and then it's... Yeah, right.
	Obviously.
	You know, I think if Bongino does well on the radio, I just don't know if he's, like, all-encompassing as far as... I've got a question on my email inbox.
	Should I unsubscribe from Team Biden-Harris?
	Absolutely not. You got to...
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	I still haven't shared with Jen the things I learned at her amazing event in California at the weekend, and I've got a cut of one of the most racist things Biden's ever said, so don't touch that dial.
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	Alright, so, I love, when I go on a stage for one of these Salem events, especially if you're hosting it, Jen, I put on my voice recorder because, because I love the sound of my voice.
	I do too, by the way.
	But I always learn stuff, and it's rude to take notes when you're up on the stage.
	So what Dennis Prager says, what Mike Gallagher, what you say, I want to savor it later and cheat and use it on my show.
	When you had me on the platform with Bill S.A.D.
	and with Brandon Taton, they had these two moments and I said, I'm going to tweet this out, I'm going to give you full credit, Assemblyman, you'll come on my Newsmax show, to just, you know, when he cut straight to the core, the first one from the councilman was, why does he bring these bills to the floor in the California house that he knows he has no chance of getting through because there's only 18 of them.
	And he said, because if we have a bill on stopping the secret transition of children without the knowledge of their parents and making sure that can't happen in California schools, even if it doesn't go anywhere, He shows up the left and the rhinos for who they are, and he used the phrase, I smoke them out.
	And I love that, Jennifer.
	You know, I think you and I made eye contact when he said that, because I just, I smiled immediately as soon as he said it.
	I saw you shake your head right away, and it's always so interesting hosting these.
	I learn so much from you guys as well.
	And I have so many people, Seb, he nailed it, that ask me, why do you stay in California?
	It's a lost cause.
	Why do you even try?
	It's the same people who say, why even show up for an election?
	There's no hope.
	Look, There is no hope if we all give up, if we think that the system has beaten us.
	And so to get people on record, we've said this before, it's not just the Democrats, it's not just the left, it's the do-nothing Republicans in our party who are sometimes even worse than the Democrats because they promise us that they're going to do something and they never do.
	So you need to put everyone on record.
	And Bill O'Saley went to work on day one.
	He's brand new.
	He just got elected this term.
	He went on day one and he had a whole briefcase filled with legislation to do exactly that.
	Get people on record for things that are important in California.
	Crime, he did in a bill already on the election to end ballot harvesting and to change election reform and on making sure that parents have rights in the state of California.
	Yeah, I can't wait to get him on my News Bank show this Sunday 7 p.m.
	Eastern, 10 p.m.
	Eastern, the Gawker Reality Trek.
	Watch it because you need to, you need to learn from people like that Assemblyman.
	And then what Brandon did, and with only the kind of common sense of a former cop, we're talking about you were asking a question about the Second Amendment and he said, uh, just, just name me one, one dictatorship where the citizens are armed.
	I'll wait.
	And I thought, wow!
	Forget about, you know, long rambling analyses of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights.
	Just answer me that question, AOC!
	That's right.
	And this is always, and that answer, it totally exemplifies what I've always thought in my head when I listen to these people on the left, like AOC, saying, we've got to get rid of the guns.
	We have to get rid of the guns.
	They're the same people that called Trump a tyrant.
	So if you really appreciate what this country was founded on and what we were supposed to do to be able to protect our rights as citizens here, and you think that the guy in the White House or the last guy in the White House is a tyrant, you better make sure you're armed!
	I don't understand how you can call someone all these names and then say, oh, but take everyone's guns?
	Give me a break!
	But what if they're not just a tyrant?
	What if they're also a racist?
	What if they're a bigot?
	This is a video I found.
	We've got one.
	Well, we got one.
	We got Biden the bigot.
	It's on my Twitter feed.
	It's hashtag Biden the bigot.
	This is a video that was sent to me today.
	And it's from when he was a senator.
	It's quite remarkable.
	1994.
	This is what Biden thought about black Americans.
	Found out that this midnight basketball isn't getting them together a bunch of giant folks living in their city to do, you know, try to see if they can be Michael Jordan.
	When they found out they were keeping schools open so gangs come off streets instead of out raping my mother, marauding me, robbing the local store.
	They're in a gymnasium and my daughter will be safer.
	My wife will be safer, my mother will be safer, and I will be safer.
	And I will be happy.
	So those jive black men from the basketball court are going to rape his mother and he's got to be safe from them.
	That man's the president, Jen.
	It is stunning.
	It is absolutely stunning.
	And that's not the only racist comment that he made as a senator in his history.
	And that's not the only thing that he forget what he said, how he voted in a pattern of racist votes all the way through his career.
	But yet somehow we overlook it.
	Now Kamala Harris didn't.
	She just about called him a racist on the debate stage.
	But suddenly these people all lose their credibility to me because they can make those comments.
	They can call each other out.
	But as long as they are transactional actors, because they just want power at all costs, they will put down their morals.
	They'll put down their integrity and they will stand next to Joe Biden as the vice president.
	And uh, and accept all of the things that he said as the racist that he is.
	And by the way, it's not over.
	He's still calling people boy and still making comments about his black friends.
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	So great to see you.
	So great to see Grant.
	Oh, dear listeners, Brent.
	I'm sorry that Antoinette couldn't be there.
	Daryl and everybody else.
	What is the name of your colleague who was running around like crazy, making sure everything worked?
	What's her name?
	Jennifer Skellinger.
	Jennifer?
	Skellinger.
	Jennifer Skellinger.
	Yeah.
	I hope you have like a three-month vacation.
	She was incredible, wasn't she?
	But she's always, I worry that she's going to get a heart attack.
	I know.
	She turns red.
	Take a breath.
	Bring beef jerky for Tatum because he's on a, you know, a meat diet.
	Please, come on.
	We're not all snowflakes.
	You're amazing, Jennifer, as are you, Jen.
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	Oh my gosh, she was super stressed.
	I think because Rodney left.
	So usually she has backup and she was the only one on duty towards the end of the day.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, but it was fun.
	It was great to see you.
	I think it was a great event.
	We've got town hall on the way in October.
	Do you like our t-shirt?
	Love the t-shirt and I hadn't seen the science denier one.
	I love that too.
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	Stick figures.
	It's cool.
	Everybody can understand what's going on.
	Well, and also because it's science and it's school, it like kind of, it's adorable.
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	I planned that.
	Well, it was, your genius is so genius.
	I didn't even know it was that genius.
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	Thank you.
	So that'd be a great poll for the website, is the question of influential conservative figures.
	Yes!
	I had a little shortlist here already between Bannon, Bongino, Hannity, Levin.
	And I hate to say this, but he is worth acknowledging.
	He has a large audience.
	Shapiro?
	Alex Jones.
	Did you have to do that?
	Did you have to do that on my show?
	Really?
	Was that at me or Alex?
	I said it first to you, and then he just had to go one worse.
	Even worse.
	Do we claim Joe Rogan?
	No, he's not.
	He's not a stinking conservative.
	No, he's not.
	No, no, no, no.
	Like he said he was going to vote for Bernie.
	So remove Shapiro, then?
	No, he... You've got to put Shapiro in there.
	Just stop ruining my day.
	I would say that's five options, plus an option for someone else, in case someone wants to vote for Stephen Crowder.
	Yeah, let's put a poll up.
	Oh, can our poll have more than a yes-no?
	Yeah, it can have multiple options.
	I have, yeah, I have six options, right?
	I don't know what the maximum limit is, but... All right, so let's do, who's the most influential after Tucker, after Fox ditched Tucker?
	Mm-hmm.
	And then, yep.
	And do, um, Bannon, Bongino, Hannity.
	No, forget Hannity, he's a clown.
	Um, Bongino, Shapiro, and, uh, who am I missing?
	Oh, Levin.
	Yeah, Levin.
	And then an option for someone else.
	Like, just write the words to someone else.
	Oh, no, no, we don't need that.
	Tell me when we can do that.
	Bannon, Bongino, Levin, Shapiro, I can press live right now.
	Oh, cool.
	Alright, can you do a screenshot?
	Uh, yeah, I'll get that going.
	Um, and title for Jen?
	Um, we talked about Tucker and what else?
	Oh, um, is it the most racist thing Biden's ever said?
	Question mark.
	Okay.
	This is the most racist thing Biden's ever said.
	I'll let you know when I have a screenshot of the poll.
	Thanks.
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	All right, I sent you a couple of postcards yesterday or the day before, Eric.
	I'm going to read them on air right now because I want to illustrate to you who the left is before we go to your call.
	So there's somebody who keeps sending postcards because he's a deranged lunatic to us and I want to use this person to illustrate what the left has become.
	So the first one is A rainbow, because it's about where they put their sexual organs, and it reads the following.
	We can put it up on the screen.
	Mr. Gorka, it's not surprising that a Nazi sympathizer Trump supporter would spew so much hatred about transgenderism.
	Hatred?
	Really?
	What's the hateful thing I've said?
	That it's a sickness?
	In the DSM?
	In the medical handbook?
	Of medical conditions?
	Of mental disorders?
	Do we have the image?
	Can we put it on the screen?
	Or are we just going to wait until the next segment?
	Thank you.
	Educate yourself, ignorant little man!
	Political power just isn't worth living in hate.
	It's not even grammar.
	Political power just isn't worth living in hate.
	Signed by, he puts his name on it.
	He's mailed this from San Bernardino.
	Looks like Dan Janz.
	What does that look like to you, Mr. G?
	You've got pretty bad handwriting, almost as bad as mine.
	What does that look like?
	I have no idea.
	I'm more, uh, when did you get this?
	I got this in March.
	Alright, I have no idea.
	I can't read it.
	Put it back on the screen.
	And keep it up on the screen.
	Eric, what do you think that says?
	Lose the Chiron?
	Dan something?
	J-A something.
	Dan J maybe.
	Alex, what do you think?
	I think that's an L. L-A and then a sloppy S. Oh, Lass or Lars.
	Dan Lars.
	All right.
	So let me illustrate.
	So this is, you know, I'm the hateful one, right?
	Because I actually believe that transgenderism is a medical condition.
	This is what he sent afterwards.
	This is a picture of a tweet and a retweet.
	From the sensitive person in San Bernardino, who's Dan Jens or Jars or something.
	It's Bridget Gabriel, that brave woman, saying, I can't help but wonder what Rush Limbaugh would say.
	And what's the response?
	Ah!
	I'm burning!
	Ah!
	So the sensitive, non-judgmental, non-hate-filled person calling me a racist, bigot, hate-filled Nazi, that's the person who has Well, just made jokes about someone burning in hell.
	That's who the left is.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	But we will win here on earth as well.
	Why?
	Because our fuel is love.
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	Their fuel.
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	And that eats you up inside.
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	Can you send that with the postcard?
	Yeah, he sent it on a postcard.
	Like, with that rainbow one, or is that a separate mail?
	No, it's a separate one he sent a week later.
	Oh, they're both from the same guy, okay.
	Yeah, they're both from San Bernardino.
	That's probably him then, yeah.
	Well, look it up.
	Lib underscore Crusher.
	I did.
	And?
	Does it have any followers?
	It seems like it's conservative.
	It's got like 46,000 followers.
	With a handle like that, I would think it's a... Yeah, that's what I understand.
	Yeah, but he's making fun of Rush Limbaugh.
	Yeah, it's hard to... Twitter's a weird space.
	Any ideas for tomorrow who we should get on?
	We should definitely, they're going to want something on Tucker.
	We should try and get Sean Davis on, right?
	Yeah.
	Are you doing it by yourself?
	No, with Jen.
	Pellegrino.
	Oh, we gotta do the navy thing.
	The Navy, because he's a Navy intelligence officer.
	We've got to get Wilkie on.
	Okay.
	Who else?
	Uh...
	Two and a half minutes.
	Come on, guys, give me some ideas.
	For guests?
	VDH.
	Ooh!
	That would be good.
	VDH, yeah, put VDH.
	Depends on the topics, I guess.
	So if you're talking Tucker, Russia... No, we can do Russia and the Navy with Let's have another topic.
	What's another topic?
	Alex give me a topic.
	No, not so fast.
	Slow down.
	Did they say Russia already?
	Yes.
	All right, now you can block the lines.
	You can't go wrong with 2024 talk.
	Yes.
	Trumpy to Santas.
	Yes.
	So then maybe someone from Breitbart.
	Dean Bratt!
	Mike's on.
	Yeah, I ain't doing no politics.
	I know you're not.
	I'm not talking about you.
	I'm talking about Newsmax tomorrow night.
	Relax.
	Don't get your knickers in a twist.
	I know you're an academician.
	Oh no, I got a clear pick in the race, but I just can't go there.
	I'm not... Relax.
	All right, we're going to talk First Ba... What was it?
	First Republic?
	First Republic.
	First Republic.
	This is radio, right?
	I don't need my TV on.
	Yeah, I know you do, because we live stream the video.
	Oh, all right.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I gotta go get my cooler.
	I put this up on a red cooler.
	I'll be right.
	That's fine.
	I mean, we can see you.
	What's wrong?
	It's good enough.
	Yeah, it's fine.
	Just scooch over a little bit to your right.
	Okay, good.
	Perfect.
	Yeah, that's great.
	Perfect.
	Stay there.
	Stay there.
	Oh, and Eric, when somebody when you're doing a two shot, and the other person's really lower than me, like there is, yeah, don't keep it in a two shot.
	Go to one shot.
	Oh, I thought you said if their chin's on the Chiron, you don't want it to be just a single shot of them.
	No, because when it goes to single, it raises them and it drops the Chiron.
	Oh, it does?
	It does.
	Yeah, it does, because of the geometry.
	So there shouldn't be a huge difference between the two shot.
	Okay, got it.
	Alright, 30 seconds.
	First Republic, what else are you working on?
	Well, I got a good statement from the Fed that I'll mock openly.
	Oh, good.
	Okay.
	Yeah. 15 seconds.
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	Let's talk the state of the nation.
	Let's talk about, what is it, the third bank after Palo Alto?
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	What is it, presage for the future?
	And is the Fed gonna fix it?
	Let's ask the man who knows.
	He is educating the next generation at Liberty U. Former Congressman, Dean of the Business School, none other than Dave Brad.
	Welcome, Dean Brad!
	Hey Zeb, thanks for having me on.
	So my worry is that we have the too-big-to-fail, you know, the JP Morgans and everything else that can do whatever they want and lobby their way out of anything.
	Then we have the regional banks that are just being gobbled up.
	So by the end of, you know, the year, it's going to be like Amazon and Walmart.
	You can choose two banks and that's it.
	Are you worried about what we're seeing?
	Yeah, no, that doesn't stop with the banking sector.
	It's just big everything right now.
	Big artificial intelligence, big banking, big automobile.
	General Motors and Ford are in trouble with the EVs coming online.
	It's been making major news.
	Big healthcare, big airlines, just everything, right?
	And it's intentional.
	It's on purpose.
	The middle class has been treated like dirt for the past 20 years.
	They're waking up though.
	The Federal Reserve has caused a lot of this.
	It's very hard to see a unified front against America, right?
	Because the Chinese are coming at us.
	The globalists are coming at us.
	The Democrat, the leftist, Marxist folks are coming after the country.
	And so it's very hard to read all of it, but I'll just focus on the Federal Reserve today, because the statement that came out today is just staggering.
	I'll just read one small little paragraph.
	The U.S.
	banking system is sound and resilient.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	You're reading that the SNL scriptwriters are on strike.
	I mean, are you taking up the SNL scriptwriting?
	No, this is a real deal.
	Well, let me keep going because it gets funnier.
	Okay, strike that.
	That was from the last meeting.
	This meeting, they made an improvement.
	Tighter credit conditions for households and businesses are likely to weigh on economic activity, hiring and inflation.
	The extent of these effects, tighter credit, remains uncertain.
	We're the central bank.
	We're the experts in the country.
	We're in charge of the money supply.
	The major thing we're all interested in right now is bank credit.
	And all they have to tell us is the extent of these effects is puzzling.
	The committee remains highly attentive to inflation risks, however.
	This is why the banks are failing.
	There's no adults in the room.
	There's no leadership.
	The economists—and I'm serious on this.
	I was an economist for 17 years and tried to write journal articles that were semi-interesting.
	It's very hard to do.
	The economists should all be fired.
	I don't get it.
	I mean, look, we should have enough economists in America.
	I mean, we can damn the Potomac with lawyers.
	How can all of these people be so wrong and so stupid, Dave?
	Well, that's what I was getting at.
	If you go down the list to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, whatever, all the universities, all the Federal Reserve Banks, where are any economic papers?
	And if there's any economists, write pieces on this in your newspapers, right?
	But where are they on $50 trillion in debt?
	I haven't seen a story on that.
	Seems like $50 trillion in debt could affect the economy.
	Even inflation, I haven't seen anything.
	Labor markets, China, the impact of a war with Taiwan on the economy.
	Where's the impact analysis?
	All of these.
	Immigration.
	Oh, several more million people coming across the border this year.
	With weapons and enough drugs to kill several hundred thousand more people.
	Seems like that might have an impact.
	Might also impact black, brown, blue-collar wage workers.
	No economic papers on any of this.
	All they do is they find a big data set, they publish something that looks interesting mathematically, and our economic profession should just be fired.
	It's criminal what they're getting away with right now.
	Just help me.
	How did we get here?
	Because we have the big argument in the 20th century of the Keynesians versus the Austrian school.
	Did economics just die after the end of the Cold War?
	Yeah, it's got nothing to do with any of that anymore.
	I wish it did.
	If it had anything to do with ideas, at least it'd be an interesting fight and struggle.
	Now it's not a struggle.
	Every foundation funds, and all the major donors are all leftists and go around to the wine and cheese circuit, right?
	They won't give.
	Any economist that dares to take on the establishment views of basically this administration and its political philosophy You'll be fired.
	You'll be ridiculed in your department.
	You'll be sent packing.
	Yeah, even the most courageous tenured folks at Harvard, even the University of Chicago, they should be speaking up, right?
	They got the wherewithal, they got job security, and they still won't write anything on the most important issues of our day.
	And we need them.
	We need a dissenting voice out there that someone can point to.
	So, does it get worse before it gets better if everybody making the decisions is incompetent or stupid, Dave?
	Yeah, well, I think the American people are going to be voting with their pocketbooks when it comes to higher education, right?
	When this wave of, you know, significant Marxist inroads into the major institutions and certainly into education, when that pig in the python clears out and the American people see the damage left, A lot of people are going to question orthodox higher education and this elitist sheepskin, you know, get your diploma, what that is really worth.
	And with AI and the smart folks in engineering and computer science and IT and whatever, a lot of folks are going to make a calculation.
	Places like Liberty, we're growing because we have a unique place in the market standing on the Judeo-Christian West and its traditions.
	And linking everything we do to the faith and ethics, okay?
	So there's a product, right?
	And in the meantime, China, Russia, Iran, they're actually doing real mathematics and real economics.
	Follow this man right now on Getter at brateconomics.com.
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	Nomic and financial illiterates, alright.
	Dr. G is ready for anything on America First!
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	But are you ready for our amazing guest in the third hour, one-on-one?
	It is Riley Gaines, that woman who will not be intimidated by the transgender extremists.
	She started something.
	Listen to Claire Rossman, a high schooler.
	She's prepared to talk out like Riley.
	Cut 12.
	Good evening, my name is Claire Mossman and I'm a sophomore at Pleasant Valley High School.
	Last September, about four weeks into the school year, I was shocked and embarrassed to learn that I had been tricked into taking my clothes off while sharing a locker room with a male student.
	I was very upset and extremely confused.
	I didn't understand how my school could do this to me.
	I am a Christian girl and I would never choose to take my clothes off in front of a boy.
	That boy's using my locker room at your invitation, and you didn't even give me a warning or an alternative option.
	All I got was forced compliance.
	It could be any male in that locker room watching us undress.
	It doesn't matter who the guy is, he does not belong in my locker room.
	Now, I have guys right next to me in the girls' bathroom.
	How could you ever believe that this is okay?
	This is the girls' bathroom.
	I have been to a few of these meetings now, and it is apparent to me that you are not at all considering how it affects everyone involved.
	My dad called the school this week to complain about my experience with boys in my bathroom.
	He talked to a vice principal about it.
	So, later that day, she called me into the office, and in so many words, I was told that if being compromised and violated was a problem for me, that I could walk clear across campus to the single-use bathroom up front.
	Otherwise, too bad, it wasn't my problem, it's the law.
	Bless her.
	Claire Rossman.
	America's had enough.
	Let's go to Greg, Arizona, line one.
	Well, first off, I would like to correct the one thing my wife likes to talk about with her apparel all the time.
	The rainbow does not belong to them.
	The rainbow is God's.
	Yes.
	It's God's son.
	Correct.
	And then, really quick, about Millie, and I don't know what the time frame is, and I'm trying to get ahold of Andy Bates.
	He's actually my congressman here.
	If they get him back on there for hearings, what I'd like to do is have somebody walk through his timeline and how long he's been there, how long he's been in charge, and if the wokeness is an issue, at what point is he the problem?
	Because if we have wokeness, Maybe he's the racist.
	It started long before him. I joined the Defense Department in 2008 and it was already starting.
	Milley is just one of the worst, but it's a great question.
	Yes, the rainbow is ours.
	Let's squeeze in one more before Riley. Our buddy Victor in Silver Spring.
	I have a question, sir.
	Yes, good, but you've got like 30 seconds.
	Why is Trump going on CNN?
	The only reason I can think he might be doing it is to get back at Fox, to get Biden to come on.
	I'm here.
	Where are you, Biden?
	Are you still hiding in your basement?
	Those are the only two reasons I can think of.
	Yeah.
	Why he would do this?
	It's a good question.
	We had Alex Marlow on the show yesterday.
	We said that there should be a debate, an event hosted by maybe somebody from Salem like me and Breitbart like Alex, but why he's going on CNN, I haven't had the answer yet from Mar-a-Lago, but maybe he understands he's got to win over some of the leftists as well.
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	I am not a cis girl, a cervix-hugger, or a vagina-owner.
	I am a child human female, a girl.
	And men like Dylan Mulvaney and Leah Thomas will never be girls or women.
	I'm not a cervix haver.
	I'm a female girl.
	And men like Will Thomas and Dylan Mulvaney will never be women.
	That's a 12-year-old child!
	At one of our buddy Posey Parker's women's rights events.
	If only some of the people on Capitol Hill, the men on Capitol Hill, had the Fortitude of that young girl, we'd be fine.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is a very special one-on-one with a lady who, well, she's a warrior.
	She is an individual who should be emulated by men and women across the country who believe in the truth and who wish to protect the vulnerable.
	Her name is Riley Gaines.
	Riley, welcome to America First!
	Well, thank you, Seth.
	It's good to be on.
	All right.
	It's been hard to get you on the show.
	We managed to get you on my Newsmax TV show last week for a few minutes.
	Now we're going to have a more leisurely discussion about why you're doing what you're doing.
	First things first, tell us a little bit about yourself and your amazing sporting career.
	Absolutely.
	So I started swimming when I was four years old.
	I quit swimming when I was 22.
	I graduated.
	So I dedicated 18 years of my life to my sport.
	Of course, that means in middle school, high school, you're going to practice before school.
	You then go to school.
	You leave school.
	You go straight back to practice.
	You go home.
	You eat your dinner.
	You do your homework.
	You ice your shoulder.
	You go to bed.
	But you wake up, and you do it all again the next day.
	No one forced us to do this.
	This is not something that we... It's a bit of a love-hate relationship.
	But we knew this is what we had to do if we wanted to compete at that top level.
	And so I was very blessed.
	I was pretty heavily recruited.
	And so my junior year of high school, I ultimately chose to go to the University of Kentucky and continue my swimming career.
	And I couldn't have been more grateful for my experience there.
	But I will say that collegiate level, that's a whole nother level of training.
	We were practicing six hours in the water every single day.
	Three hours of those six were before 8 a.m.
	So it's impossible to put into words the amount of time, the sacrifices, the dedication that it takes to compete at the highest level.
	Yeah, you don't have to tell me.
	Both of my children, now grown, were athletes D1 and D3 rowers.
	So when you're a rower, that's like you get up at, you know, before 5 a.m., you're out on the water before 6.
	My son, who was a D1, a collegiate athlete, that's, Yeah, it's about six, seven hours every day of training and about six, he's six foot five, and so six thousand calories of food that went into that furnace, so it's a tough life.
	I couldn't have done it, I played rugby in high school, that's about it, but it's a lifestyle, it requires a level of dedication that few human beings have.
	Very impressive.
	What happened to your sporting career before you finished?
	So, first of all, my collegiate years were nothing of normal anyways, because my sophomore year, which of course was March of 2020, that was our big championship NCAA meet.
	It's the biggest meet, it's the fastest meet in the world, is what it is.
	We're geared up, we're ready to go, and about three days before we were supposed to leave for the meet in March, the world shut down.
	COVID hit.
	And so we very abruptly, my season ended right before our championship.
	And so we all got sent home and this was really hard because swimming, you don't get to take days off just like you described.
	And you know this, your kids know this, anyone who is an elite athlete, you don't get to take time off.
	So when we got sent home, of course, there were no pools open, there were no gyms open.
	I was forced every day to, I shouldn't say forced, I chose to every day, put on a wetsuit, swim miles aimlessly in the lake, because that was really my only option.
	This was the toughest thing for my son, because he's in a team of broers in an eight, and they're sent home, and then, you know, you have to, like, encourage each other by text and Zoom to train, and it's just the toughest thing.
	Absolutely.
	We were robbed in that way.
	It truly felt like that.
	It felt like we were missing out on our collegiate experience of what it meant to be an athlete.
	But we come back junior year, everything was relatively normal.
	Borrow the mask, which mask in swimming is very interesting.
	We come back my senior year, now everything was pretty normal.
	About midway through my senior year, I had made it my goal to win a national title, which would, of course, mean becoming the fastest female in the country in my event.
	And I was right on pace to do so.
	I was ranked third in the country behind one amazing female swimmer who I knew very well.
	But the person who was ranked first, I'd never heard of before.
	And there was a couple red flags looking at this name.
	And this is, of course, the first time I became aware of a swimmer named Leah Thomas.
	Again, unbeknownst to me that this was anything other than a female at the time.
	The first red flag was this swimmer came out of nowhere her senior year.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Did you just say her?
	Well, I'm... You're telling the story.
	You're telling the story.
	You're in the story.
	You have no idea where, quote unquote, she came from, which is interesting.
	So suddenly this person appears and what happens?
	So yes, we will use her in air quotes, and I will change my language when I understand, when I found out this was a male.
	But at the time, I thought this girl came out of nowhere, her senior year, posting the fastest times and everything, all the freestyle events from the 100 freestyle, which is a sprint, and all of the freestyle events in between until the mile.
	And so if you think about your Olympic runners, your best 200-meter runner is not your best marathon runner, but that's what we were seeing in this girl.
	They were from University of Pennsylvania, which is not a school that historically produces fast swimmers.
	There was lots of head-scratching going on.
	None of it really made sense until an article came out a few days after these nation-leading times were posted that very briefly, in a little blurp of a sentence, disclosed Leah Thomas is formerly Will Thomas and swam three years in the men's team at University of Pennsylvania before deciding to switch to the women's team.
	Will Thomas.
	Will Thomas swam as a man and, let's be very clear, was crap.
	He was ranked, what was he like, 423rd or something nationally?
	Yeah, 462nd was the best.
	Thomas was ranked the year prior.
	So when I saw this little sentence disclosing this, I was, of course, shocked.
	I thought this was so far-fetched.
	It never even once occurred to me that this was a male.
	Of course, I was shocked, but truthfully, I felt a sense of relief because I was able to look up who Will Thomas was, and that's when I saw the statistics of how Will ranked as a man, which was, just like you mentioned, mediocre at best.
	And so I thought the NCAA would see this exactly how I saw it.
	And that's why I say I felt a sense of relief because it was very obvious how unfair this was and how wrong this was.
	Nothing opinionated about it.
	Nothing hateful about it.
	Just what's on the paper in front of us.
	I thought the NCAA could easily see that.
	I thought anyone with a brain could see that.
	But that's not how the NCAA saw it.
	They saw absolutely nothing wrong with allowing Thomas to compete with the women.
	And then what happens, this person, this man, who simply grows his hair, doesn't do anything biologically to quote-unquote transition, puts on a female one-piece, and then what happens to your sport and your sporting career, Riley?
	What happened to our sport was the integrity of it was completely thrown out of the window.
	Title IX, thrown out of the window.
	Our fairness, our safety, our privacy, our dignity, our feelings.
	I mean, the list can go on.
	Thrown out of the window.
	And so that first day of competition, this was not an event that I competed in, so I sat on the side of the pool and watched as Thomas swam to a national title, beating out Many U.S.
	Olympians beating out American record holders.
	The most impressive female swimmers this country has ever seen by body lengths, beating everyone in the country by multiple seconds.
	And I know a second doesn't sound like a lot, but in a sport like swimming, where this is, you know, this sport is measured down to the hundredth of a second.
	Right.
	To have one person beating every other girl in the country by multiple seconds was beyond me.
	That second day of competition, this was the day that Thomas and I competed against each other in the 200 freestyle.
	We raced, we qualified in the morning for top, we both qualified top eight.
	We came back that evening and almost impossibly enough in the finals, we went the exact same time down to the hundredth of a second.
	So we tied.
	Where were you ranked?
	Where were you ranked nationally at this time?
	My best time was around third or so.
	So somebody who was more than 400th in the male swimming category is tying with somebody who's third as a female athlete.
	Right.
	All right, let's stop there for a second.
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	Right, so there you are, somebody who was, you were being incredibly diplomatic, was not mediocre, was garbage as a male swimmer, ranked more than 400th, ties with you when you are ranked third at this event, and then what happens?
	So we get out of the water after tying, after we race, my heart rates high, I'm out of breath, We go behind the awards podium, where the NCAA official looks at both Thomas and myself, and he's about to hand everyone the trophy, and you're marched out onto this podium, and everyone claps.
	You're named an All-American.
	And so he looks at us, and he says, great job, you two, but you tied, and we don't really account for ties, so Leah gets to take the trophy.
	And so I was, of course, taken aback by this.
	How was it so easy for them to look at me and say, you don't get the trophy?
	And I want to reiterate, I'm a 12-time All-American, so I didn't even want the stupid, dingy trophy that probably costs $5 for production.
	It wasn't the trophy that I wanted.
	It was how quickly and easily they were able to throw me aside.
	And so I asked him, OK, why?
	Why does Leah get the trophy?
	And clearly they weren't prepared to answer this question because no one had questioned anything the NCAA had done thus far.
	And so he kind of hesitantly looks at me and just responds with, well, Leah has to have the trophy for photo purposes.
	So you can pose with this one, but you have to give it back and you'll go home empty handed and Leah takes the trophy.
	Say that again.
	What was this person's justification for giving Will Thomas the trophy when you actually technically tied?
	A photo op.
	That was the justification, and that is truthfully the point when I realized I was done.
	I was done being asked to kindly smile and step aside.
	Up until this point, I knew the unfair competition was wrong.
	I knew the locker room was wrong, and we can touch on that in a minute.
	But when they reduced everything I had worked my entire life for, everything all of us at that meet had worked our entire life for, this was my last swim meet ever, I was a senior, I was graduating, he reduced all of that down to a photo op to validate the feelings and the identity of a male at the expense of my own?
	We have that photograph.
	I want to show that photograph in a second, but also I found another one.
	So at this point, had you come across this phenomena before?
	Had this been something on your radar screen?
	Never.
	This is truly something I never thought would infiltrate into sports, especially not the collegiate level.
	Of course the collegiate level and a sport like swimming where there's not much professional opportunity.
	This is the height of our sport.
	This is the most elite, the most impressive, the most accomplished swimmers in the country.
	Here we have the photograph.
	of both of you tying next to will thomas show the next one there's another photograph i sent i don't know if the resolution is going to be good enough but there's a there's a if you look closer at your face behind your eyes you can see that something's changed for you in that moment riley right Absolutely.
	Um, actually before the race even happened, I thought I was going to boycott.
	I wasn't going to swim.
	You know, when they called everyone on the block, I wasn't going to get on the block.
	And so I asked the NCAA official, I said, what happens if I don't step on that block?
	And he looks at me and says, well, um, this is why we have alternates.
	Someone, if you don't get on that block, someone will gladly take your place.
	And so I, I taught, I, I kind of thought about it and I was like, okay, I'll swim, but I'm not getting on the podium.
	That's how I'll make a, I'll make a stand.
	I'm not getting on the podium.
	But then God, this is God's, this was God's doing.
	He knew what he was doing.
	Thomas and I tied.
	And so I was thinking in the brief minutes before we get on the podium, if I don't step on the podium, there's not even a place missing because we tied.
	So I'm not taking a stand.
	There will be no message sent here because there's not going to be an empty place where a female is not standing.
	And so I thought to myself, maybe we can use this to perfectly highlight.
	I mean, you can see in this photo, Thomas is 6'4", and I'm a mere 5'6", 5'5".
	He looks like my son, who's a 6'6", you know, V-shaped D1 rowing athlete.
	Absolutely.
	And so I'm thinking to myself, maybe this is an opportunity to highlight, to perfectly display, which it was and it has been, to perfectly display what's actually happening here.
	All right, well, this isn't a court of law, this isn't a trial, but let's listen to what this cheat, Will Thomas, has to say about his quote-unquote new sporting career.
	Play cut.
	What reaction do you have toward other folks who feel that you shouldn't be able to compete?
	I disagree.
	Trans women competing in women's sports does not threaten women's sports as a whole because trans women are a very small minority of all athletes and the NCAA rules regarding trans women competing in women's sports have been around for 10 plus years and we haven't seen any massive wave of trans women dominating.
	I'll make one comment and then the floor is yours.
	A. I don't understand the logic there.
	There's not a lot of us.
	So what?
	You only have to be one Lance Hendricks and you only have to be one doper.
	You only have to be one person using steroids.
	And you're a cheat!
	You're cancelled!
	You have your trophies taken away from you.
	It's not a function of how many of you there are.
	It's a question of whether or not you're cheating.
	But that's just me.
	Your reaction to what he said.
	Absolutely.
	That's exactly what this is.
	And that's what we're seeing being talked about across state legislature at the federal level.
	We have Democrats who are saying, you know, this isn't really happening, so why should we protect women?
	Why should we ensure privacy in a locker room when it's not happening that much?
	Which, first of all, that's not true.
	It's happening at a rampant rate across the country, across all sports, all ages, all divisions, a rampant rate.
	And I want to mention, In the case of swimming, at that Instablade Championships, yes, there was only one male at that meet.
	But that one male displaced 14,000 other D1 swimmers who could have been at that meet.
	Wow.
	That's how many women this is affecting.
	Look at this footage I found.
	This is a 2021 1,650-yard race.
	And Will Thomas defeats the next fastest swimmer, Anna Khaladzadze, by 38 seconds.
	Not .3 of a second, by 38 seconds.
	I would say that photographic evidence, Riley, is reason enough to not allow men to compete against women!
	Absolutely, and Again, the whole argument.
	Thomas would have never beat any other man by 38 seconds.
	That's what this is about.
	This is, I mean...
	Thomas never even qualified for NCAA Championships as a male and now is beating everyone in the country by multiple, multiple seconds.
	Wow.
	It's so obvious.
	Again, to say this is hateful, to say this is transphobic, whatever other word you want to throw in there, it just shows how incompetent and out of touch with reality you really are.
	If you're going to use those arguments, it just shows you lose all credibility.
	that that is the best summation he can't even qualify as a man but we give him trophies for cheating against women follow this lady riley underscore gains underscore she's a spokeswoman spokeswoman yeah spokeswoman For the Independent Women's Forum, IWF.org.
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	All right, one thing, look, this is bad enough.
	You said what?
	Will Thomas basically kept 14,000 girls out of that swimming pool when he cheated and called himself Leah.
	Let's talk about what's even more perverse, the locker room incidences.
	I understand this man still has his male genitalia and he's not shy about that, is he?
	Yeah.
	First of all, let me kind of set the scene here.
	We were not forewarned we would be sharing a locker room.
	That was not something that was ever disclosed to us prior to actually being in that locker room.
	So no one told you?
	Not at the venue?
	Not from the NAACP?
	Nobody?
	Nobody.
	Not a coach.
	No one from the NCAA.
	No one told us.
	And so to be in that environment, let me further set the scene by kind of explaining what the swimming locker room looks like.
	It's not a place of modesty, to be quite frank.
	These suits you're putting on, it takes about 15 minutes to put on.
	They're skin tight.
	They're so tiny.
	And so 15 minutes of which you're fully exposed.
	And of course, a locker room is uncomfortable for anyone, even being in a locker room that's only for females.
	It's uncomfortable.
	But growing up a swimmer, you almost feel comfortable being vulnerable in that environment.
	Absolutely.
	It's something, again, growing up a swimmer, you've done your whole life.
	Every day after practice, you change into clothes.
	Every morning, you change into your suit.
	So there's a lot of undressing.
	And yes, again, it's uncomfortable to begin with.
	But it's something that you find comfort in knowing you can be vulnerable there because you're all in the same position.
	Does that kind of make sense?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You're vulnerable together.
	You're all girls together.
	So there's some kind of, you know, shell because you're all girls.
	Right.
	But to add a man into that mix, to add someone with male genitalia equipped with it and exposing it.
	And I'll be totally honest here.
	His teammates have told me he was still sexually active with women at the time when he was sharing the locker room with them.
	Okay, so let's be clear.
	He is exposing himself as a man in the female changing rooms, and according to your sources on his team, this is a guy who's still having sex with women.
	So he's not even pretending, pretending that he's a woman attracted to men, therefore you're safe sexually.
	You're not safe sexually!
	As he's naked in the girls changing room.
	Correct.
	I will say his teammates told me that he calls himself a lesbian, if that makes anything any better.
	He can call himself a cockatoo, he can call himself a mouse, it makes no difference.
	So what happened?
	So again, unbeknownst to the women in that locker room, this is a place of buzzing, of chatter.
	You get to see your friends from all over the country.
	And so we're all laughing, we're talking, and all of a sudden, my back is turned.
	All of a sudden, the locker room gets dead silent.
	And so this is, of course, abnormal.
	And so I turn around, 6'4", 22-year-old man, dropping his clothes, undressing, again, intact with male genitalia.
	And immediately, It was this subconscious, innate, inherent feeling to cover yourself, to shield yourself.
	And every girl's reaction was the same.
	It felt like betrayal.
	It felt like belittlement.
	It was embarrassing, awkward, uncomfortable.
	But really the word to describe this is traumatic.
	You felt as if the people who were supposed to be protecting you had failed you miserably.
	Granted, we were all adults.
	We were 18 to 23 year olds in that In that locker room.
	But to know that there was no precaution.
	We were not forewarned.
	It just felt like betrayal.
	And so I immediately left the locker room.
	And I went up to one of the officials on the pool deck and I said, how has this happened?
	What are the guidelines?
	I want to know the specific guidelines that allowed this male into our changing area.
	Um, I said, I understand the guidelines for the meat, which at the time was just 12 months of hormone suppression.
	They didn't check levels.
	They didn't check the testosterone levels.
	They just trusted that you had been taking them for 12 months.
	Um, but I said, what are the guidelines for the locker room?
	And word for word, he responds back with this.
	Oh, We actually got around this by making the locker rooms unisex.
	So I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, unisex?
	Any man could have walked into our locker room, not just a self-identifying female.
	Any man, in bare minimum.
	We weren't forewarned.
	We weren't told.
	We could have made other arrangements for ourselves, but no one even gave us that option until it was too late.
	It felt like Like, I was living in the Twilight Zone.
	It felt like I was missing something.
	He said it so easily.
	Was there something I wasn't picking up on?
	A year ago, two years ago, if a man walked into a woman's locker room, he would immediately be arrested and charged with indecent exposure, voyeurism, sexual harassment.
	But now, it's almost as if it's celebrated.
	It was being encouraged to a degree.
	In a different America, in a 1950s America, let me tell you what would have happened.
	is that the fathers of every other competitor would have come down out of the stands
	and formed a line in front of William Thomas and saying, hey tough guy.
	You want to get in the pool?
	Because you're going to have to come through us.
	Women have been left to fend for themselves.
	And guess what?
	Now men are terrorizing them.
	William Thomas is a man terrorizing other women.
	Why are we putting up with this?
	And the reason is because we've allowed men to become weak.
	And so, I'm about done with this whole topic.
	My patience has run thin.
	And so, here's my challenge for every man across America.
	This is happening in your local school board.
	It's not a matter of showing up to meetings and all this.
	You need to intervene.
	You need to show up to the sporting event.
	Like, this is not happening, actually.
	You're not competing against my daughter.
	She has XX chromosomes.
	You have XY chromosomes.
	Get off the court.
	Get out of the pool.
	It's not going to happen anymore.
	There are, you know, we do this three hours every day, and it's never drudgery, it's always amazing, but there are moments, there are clips where you go, yeah, yeah, that's the one, that's the pay dirt, he's absolutely right.
	And that's my colleague, my friend Charlie Kirk, at an event where he said, where are the fathers?
	When a man Cheats by pretending they're female at a swim meet.
	The fathers should stand up out of the bleachers and make a human wall and say, you do not get into the water with my daughter.
	It's not violence, it is a statement that you don't get to treat.
	If the NCAA isn't going to do it, if the local judges aren't going to do it, it's up to us.
	That's the job of a man.
	Riley, I don't know if that had an impact on you like it did on me the first time I heard it.
	Is there any other way?
	I know we've got the news, we've got the headline of the court case that you've brought as well.
	It looks as if, in general, there's just There's no response from the people who should be protecting not only the sport, but the females of our society.
	So tell us what you expect the rest of America to do.
	Exactly.
	As you mentioned, it's time for people to stand up, to be bold, to use their voice, to not be scared, to ruffle feathers and step on toes, because that's what we're seeing so much of.
	Parents, coaches, medical professionals, they're all terrified.
	But that's how we've gotten here.
	That's how we've reached this point, is because we've given an inch and they've taken a mile, and it's time to say enough is enough.
	We need parents to defend their daughters.
	We need parents to teach their sons masculinity.
	It is so, so important.
	And it feels as if we've gone so far from that.
	I'll say my dad, he was a former NFL football player.
	He's a very big guy.
	He played many, many years professional football.
	He was an SEC football player.
	When I told him I was sharing a locker room with Thomas, the outrage, actually, it was truly heartbreaking to hear him explain to me how it made him feel.
	He wanted to come down there and handle it himself, to which I had to tell him, Dad, we already have one man in the locker room.
	We don't need another one.
	But it was hard.
	I have a husband, too.
	Do you think my husband liked me sharing a locker room, knowing another male was watching us undress?
	No!
	Absolutely not.
	So we need these men.
	We need female athletes in particular, especially influential female athletes.
	We need Venus and Serena Williams.
	We need all these women who are platforms.
	Navratilova, right?
	Navratilova, as perhaps one of the most famous international lesbian sportswomen ever, has said this is insane.
	And let's be clear, this isn't one sportsman who's cheating.
	This is part of an ideology that's infected our hospitals, our healthcare, and our colleges.
	If you missed it, then you've been under a rock for about a month.
	This is what happened when Riley tried to give a speech in defense of protecting female sports in America at a college in California.
	Let's just play 30 seconds of this.
	I'm good, I'm good.
	Trans rights are a racist function!
	Enough, enough. I can't.
	I'm sorry I didn't warn you. The second I played that you slouched in your seat. You got a
	thousand-yard stare in your eyes.
	So that's when you were screamed at, you were assaulted, the police were such craven, I'm not even going to call them men, they forced you to hide in a room for three hours, talking to your husband miles away as they were demanding, the students were demanding money, to let you off the premises, which is, as far as I know, it's called a hostage situation.
	So, Riley, this isn't just about one sportsman who's cheating, is it?
	No, oh my gosh, it's so much bigger than that.
	It's taken me a while.
	Maybe I was naive before this, but oh my gosh, you step back, you look at this for what it is, what they want.
	We're changing the language we use.
	If you refer back to that first clip, the girl called herself a vagina owner, a cervix haver.
	It's now offensive to use the term breastfeeding because it's chest feeder.
	We're changing the language we use.
	We're denying objective truth.
	They want us to say 2 plus 2 is 5.
	That's essentially what this means when they're asking us to deny the sheer essence of humanity, man versus woman.
	When you ask us to deny that, that's denying the sky is blue.
	We're denying objective truth.
	Really, a lot of this, it's deeply rooted in Marxism.
	And it is a lot bigger than fairness in women's sports.
	And look at the silencing aspect, what they're trying to do to make you not use your voice It's terrifying what's happening in prisons.
	They're now allowing men in who are, which they're rapists, they're men who are convicted of kidnapping, child pornography.
	Please, if you don't believe anything she's saying, after our interview, go off and look it up.
	There's a very famous case in the UK, and it's not the only one, of a convicted multiple rapist, who before he was sentenced, For his third or fourth crime, put on a wig and a pink jacket and said, I'm a woman now, so you can send me to a female prison.
	This is actually happening.
	Riley is absolutely right.
	We are talking one on one with one of the bravest women in America.
	Follow her right now at Riley underscore Gaines underscore on Twitter.
	She's the spokeswoman for the Independent Women's Forum.
	That's IWF.org.
	And she has her own pack that's fighting for female sports in America. It's nine like the number
	nine pack dot o R G. I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America first one on one coming to you from the relief factor dot com studios. So Riley,
	I can tell from the first time we spoke for my Newsmax show and clearly after our discussion here,
	the awful thing that happened to you in San Francisco hasn't hasn't dampened your vigor,
	your commitment to protect a female athletes in America.
	You're one of a handful, truly a handful.
	Why are you doing this?
	It's interesting because I'm done playing sports.
	You know, it doesn't affect me anymore.
	I could very easily just kind of ride off into the sunset with my super cute British husband.
	Ah, those Brits.
	It's the accent.
	It's the accent.
	It is the accent.
	Admit it.
	Admit it.
	It is.
	It is.
	I was set to go to dental school this year.
	That was my life plan.
	I scored in the top percentile and got into multiple dental schools, the most prestigious dental schools.
	That's what I thought the direction of my life was going, but I realized God has different plans for me.
	I really realized dental school will always be there, but the relevance and the importance behind this issue won't always be, and I see what's at stake if I don't fight for this.
	I have a younger sister.
	She's the Tennessee state champion for gymnastics.
	Again, I just got married and I can only hope one day that I get to have a daughter of my own.
	And I can't imagine being in the position I'm in with a voice I'm not afraid to use and with the powerful testimony and the platform that I have and not fighting for them, not fighting for the athletes who came before me who fought relentlessly for title nine and not fighting for the athletes, the present female athletes who are terrified and silenced and Tell us a little bit about your PAC.
	What does 9PAC.org do?
	So I created 9PAC last year during all the midterm elections, and I was dedicated to endorsing candidates.
	I was raising money and endorsing candidates who were willing to protect women's sports.
	And this was something that I didn't care if they were a Democrat or Republican, where they stood on the political spectrum.
	And I was solely looking at this one issue.
	If someone was willing to say, I will protect women's sports, I was willing to cut them a check.
	Of course, this only went one way.
	Only Republicans were willing to say this.
	But I made it my mission.
	And that's exactly this whole past year, actually longer than a year now.
	That's what I've been doing.
	I've been fighting.
	I've been traveling state to state testifying.
	I actually just got back from Texas last night, where I testified in North Carolina.
	And I'm going all over.
	I'm traveling like a madwoman.
	That's why it's been so hard for us to schedule this.
	But it's been Needed.
	I hate to say that this is a good thing that this happened, but truthfully, I don't look at myself as a victim.
	I don't look at myself as someone who experienced this extreme injustice, which I know we did, but I can look at this as a glass-half-full type of situation.
	This had to happen like this to display what's happening and how women are at jeopardy.
	Well, I'm going to make a donation.
	My wife and I are.
	I wish every single one of the three and a half million people listening to support this.
	Its title, Nine, of course, is the name.
	Ninepack.org.
	Support this brave lady.
	That's nine.
	The word nine.
	P-A-C dot O-R-G.
	Last thing I'd like to do, Riley, is I want you to send a message to two groups of people in America.
	The first group You're the Riley Gaineses of four years ago.
	What is your message to the young women who are intimidated, who see a man naked in their changing room, who don't want to say anything, don't want to risk their career?
	What is your message to them and to their parents, to their siblings?
	And then lastly, I want you to send a message To the people who think they can intimidate you and every woman in America and deny the essence of womanhood.
	As my friend Andrew Cleveland said, this political ideology has at its essence The strategic objective of nullifying, of cancelling women, the concept of womanhood.
	Because Leah Thomas is Will Thomas.
	He's a man and he will die a man.
	Nothing he can do will change that because his chromosomes are XY.
	It is the negation of womanhood.
	So what is your message to first, you know, Riley Gaines of four years ago and then to those who are trying to stop you?
	My message to the next generation and to parents, I get messages all the time, DMs and private messages from parents who tell me their kids are discouraged from playing sports.
	They have a male on their middle school basketball team and their daughter doesn't want to compete against that.
	And while I understand we cannot cave, we cannot give up our opportunities for men—again, that's how we've gotten here—do not get discouraged.
	Again, parents, don't be afraid to ruffle feathers and step on toes.
	Go to those school board meetings.
	Defend your daughters.
	They need it desperately.
	And girls, This is something you have to speak up about.
	We have to be bold, have conversation amongst your teammates, your coaches, express your opinions, and don't feel bad for having those opinions.
	Don't feel as if you should apologize for feeling uncomfortable in a locker room with a changing male.
	That is not something you should ever have to apologize for.
	My message to the people who want to silence me, who want me to stop, you will not get me to stop.
	I will not be deterred.
	I will not be silenced.
	I've been thinking about this a lot recently.
	I have people all the time tell me I'm brave and courageous, which is hard for me to grasp because I don't feel brave.
	I don't feel brave for saying men and women are different.
	That's not something that feels empowering by any means.
	And so I've been thinking about this.
	And I realized that the people who are calling me brave were just afraid of different things.
	What they're afraid of is being called transphobic, being called a bigot, being called hateful.
	They're afraid of the negatives that come along with this.
	But what I'm afraid of, I'm afraid of what would happen if I don't stand up for the truth.
	I'm afraid of what would happen if I didn't take the stance that I have been taking.
	And that's why it doesn't feel brave to me.
	So I won't be silenced.
	I won't be stopped when the people... I mean, look at what happened in San Francisco.
	That only makes me... really reassures me that I'm doing the right thing.
	I'm over the target and I know that.
	When they come after you with hatred in their hearts, You know you're on the wrong side.
	You know they're on the wrong side and you know that you are winning.
	You know that as a fact.
	Totally.
	We salute you.
	Riley Gaines.
	Support this lady.
	Support her pack.
	God bless you.
	We need hundreds and thousands of you.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	You've been listening to a very special edition of America First One-on-One.
	Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, keep your head on a swivel.
	Watch your six.
	Hold the line.
	Never give up.
	Never give in.

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