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Feb. 24, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: One year into Putin's war on Ukraine

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	It was unprovoked, but this is what Russian President Vladimir Putin unleashed on Ukraine.
	As the sun came up this morning, a missile striking an industrial park in western Ukraine.
	A helicopter assault on an airport outside of Kiev.
	Close, intense fighting.
	And there are civilian casualties.
	Local officials say this apartment building was struck in eastern Ukraine.
	Heartbreaking images of people, bloodied, staggering out of their homes.
	Those were the news reports from exactly a year ago today, when the invasion of Ukraine began for the second time.
	Yes, the second time.
	Remember when somebody called Barack Obama was President of the United States?
	Russia invaded under Putin then and took the whole of Crimea.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First on the Salem News Channel.
	The invasion began on the dawn of the 24th of February with infantry divisions and armoured and air support in eastern Ukraine.
	And dozens, dozens of missile strikes across both eastern Ukraine and western Ukraine.
	Just to underscore the fact this isn't about ethnic Russian minorities, they were shelling everyone Everywhere.
	The initial fighting took place in Luhansk Oblast, the Luhansk county or region if you will, on the border with Russia at 3.40 Kiev time.
	The main infantry and tank invasion was launched in four spearheads, creating a northern front launched towards Kiev, the capital again, reinforcing the fact this isn't about protecting ethnic Russian minorities in the east.
	This is about taking back the whole of Ukraine.
	Dozens and dozens of missile strikes as far west as Lviv In the 12 months since that occurred, Russia has been involved in the shelling of not only apartment blocks and hospitals, maternity clinics, but also war crimes.
	There has been documented evidence, you can see the film footage if you have the stomach to do so, Of mass graves being found.
	Not of Ukrainian soldiers, but of civilians.
	Of families, in some cases the mother, the father, and the children, wired together, shot and dumped into a grave.
	Now, if this horrifies you, I would say you need to open a book.
	You need to look at what Russia has done, not only to other countries since the times of the Tsar, but to their own people.
	If you find it strange, That there are reports of civilians being murdered in mass numbers in a country that Vladimir Putin says we are just protecting our fellow Russian brethren?
	Then you need to look at what was done in Ukraine, for example, in the 1930s, when it was part involuntarily of the Soviet Union.
	When the then leader, the then General Secretary of the Soviet Union, Stalin, literally starved to death between 6 and 8 million Ukrainians.
	Because?
	Well, just because.
	They were kulaks.
	They were undesirables.
	They were déclassés.
	They were farmers who had a plot of land.
	And it's not just people in other countries.
	Look at the 20th century, for example.
	Look at the nation of my heritage, Hungary, invaded in 1956 by Russian forces, forces from other Warsaw Pact states, because the Hungarians dared to reject communism.
	Look at what happened in Czechoslovakia in 1968.
	Look at what happened in Poland, with the support of Moscow, the imposition of martial law.
	But look at what Russia did to its own people.
	The gulags.
	The political prisons.
	The KGB disappearances at nighttime.
	You said the wrong thing.
	You made the wrong joke about the gerontocracy running the country.
	And that 3 a.m.
	ring on the doorbell.
	The disappearance of your family.
	The disappearance of a loved one, either into a labor camp in Siberia, or just never to be heard again.
	This isn't about the Russian people's crimes, because it is always the crimes of the people running the country, whether it is the Tsar, whether it is the Politburo of the Communist Party, or whether it is a man, Vladimir Putin, who was a willing servant of communism.
	He didn't have to join the KGB.
	He didn't have to join the State Committee for Security to persecute his fellow Russians.
	He did so willingly.
	If you want to look at how he became president, just look up one thing.
	Look up David Satter's research and articles on the Moscow apartment bombings.
	How it is now demonstrable that under the leadership of that man, Russians were targeted for death in apartment bombings blamed on Chechen terrorists, but which in fact were executed by Russia's own security services just before an election to make Putin look tough.
	To make Russians afraid of somebody else.
	And to make sure that he could be in power not just for four years or eight years but for the last 21 years.
	A man who has said repeatedly in those two decades that independent nations like Ukraine, like Poland, like the Baltic states of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia have no right to independence, are illegitimate.
	And should be, should be subsumed back into the motherland, the Rodina.
	This man has stated the greatest geopolitical tragedy, he used the word tragedy, of the 20th century was the loss of the Soviet Union, a regime that was a meat grinder.
	For its own citizens and anyone in the near vicinity of the Soviet Union who dared, dared to resist.
	So today, as an American by choice, Whose parents suffered under communism, at the hands of the secret police.
	I, for one, as a conservative, salute the people of the Ukraine.
	Not corrupt politicians, not the people they bought off in Washington D.C.
	around our administration.
	But the young men and women who are fighting for survival, for the independence of our country, just as a handful of brave men did here all those many years ago.
	The spirit of 1776 is alive, at least in one nation of Europe.
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	All right, so we are going to talk about Ukraine in the second hour, the anniversary, what it means, the threat of rapprochement between China, communist China and Russia.
	But let's talk about another conflict that sadly Well, it hasn't ended.
	Our part in it has, at least officially, with a rout of our forces under the quote-unquote leadership of the current incumbent in the White House, and that is, of course, Afghanistan.
	We are delighted to welcome back a man who, well, he doesn't need any introduction to those who listen to our show regularly, but he is a legendary individual when it comes to saving the innocent fighting for America, Chad Robichaud of the Mighty Oaks Foundation.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Hey, thanks for having me on.
	All right.
	Well, you are joined today by the man who is the subject of your book, Saving Aziz.
	We We are delighted to have both of you on the show.
	That's Aziz Uzala Aziz and Chad Robichaud.
	Chad, before we talk about you and the story of your buddy Aziz, introduce yourself to any of our new listeners and viewers.
	What did you do in the Marine Corps?
	Tell us about all the funky things that you often did alone.
	Yeah, so I was a Force Recon Marine.
	I was very privileged to be part of a JSOC Task Force, a Joint Special Operations Command Task Force, and subsequently did eight deployments to Afghanistan.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	You're just talking far too fast.
	Slow down.
	Okay.
	All right.
	People didn't even hear that number.
	How many times did you deploy to a combat theater?
	Yeah, I did eight deployments to Afghanistan as part of a JSOC, Joint Special Operations Command Task Force.
	In that capacity, I served as an AFO, Advanced Force Operator.
	Really doing singleton operations, going ahead of my unit to put them on target to capture or kill the bad guys in Afghanistan.
	And in that capacity as AFO, I served alone with Aziz, who was my interpreter, my cultural advisor.
	He was my teammate and ultimately was my friend.
	And we did all eight deployments together because of continuity purposes.
	And then, you know, he saved my life multiple times in combat, but probably saved my life every time.
	The photograph we're showing now for the viewers, it's not that Aziz is nine foot tall.
	Chad is rather compact, right?
	You are like a fireplug, just so people understand.
	Yeah, I'm 5'3".
	Kind of compact, like you said.
	Alright, so explain to those who aren't familiar with it, I went to Afghanistan a long time ago, 2006, but explain the role of the Terp, or the interpreter, and how essential people like Aziz are to your work in theatre.
	Well, you know, for 20 years, as America served in the war on terror, we have You know, been successful in Afghanistan because of our interpreters.
	They not only interpret the language, but our cultural advisors make sure our troops understand the culture, understand operations, understand how to have access and placement in certain areas and keep us safe.
	And Aziz was that for me, even more so because not only he didn't just serve with my unit, he served with me as an independent interpreter, teammate and ally.
	So he, He and I served together, just the two of us, on operations in the mountains of Afghanistan, across the border in Pakistan, doing some very, you know, over 100 special operations missions.
	And so, I would not have been able to do my job if it wouldn't be for Aziz's ability to interpret, to give me cultural information in that area, to give me access and placement in that area, and then work side-by-side as my teammate.
	Alright, we're going to talk about the new book, Saving Aziz.
	Aziz, walk us through how you first met Chad and why you decided to help these crazy Americans like Chad Robichaud.
	Well, honestly, I was working for the U.S.
	Embassy.
	There was a special project called the Anti-Terrorism Assistance.
	And then from there, I was recommended to go and work for the JSOC Spatial Operation.
	When I met Chad, I really liked him.
	He was very disciplined.
	As a recon Marine, he really knew what he was doing.
	And he was really motivated, a sportsman and You know, we became buddies and I invited him over to my house and he had dinners, lunches and, you know, he became part of my family.
	From the childhood, I had this desire in my heart to work for Afghanistan.
	And I was taking that opportunity to work for freedom, for women's rights, children's rights, promoting democracy.
	That was the golden chance for me to help the Americans.
	How long did it take for you and Chad to connect?
	and create a situation where everyone can have all kinds of rights that they are bestowed by God, naturally.
	So for me, that was a very big opportunity to help my American colleague and work for my country.
	And how long did it take for you and Chad to connect?
	How long did it take for you to realize you liked each other?
	It was my first impression.
	It was one of the mornings when I came to the office.
	So, Chad was over there, we talked a little bit, we did that recon and our properties and, you know, he identified some weak points where the enemy could really easily use against us and we needed to do some construction improvements.
	I mean, that morning I start liking him and he start liking me and the way we shared information and, you know, talk about business, what we were doing over there.
	We shared our minds and we immediately started I mean, the first day, the first morning.
	Like, you know, as they say, the first impression or never.
	I like that.
	The first impression or never.
	Azizullah Aziz and Chad Robichardt, we're going to continue the discussion of what happened in Afghanistan and the message of the last year.
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	And how many people have you helped?
	Well, we had 500,000 in our resiliency program and 4,500 in our recovery program.
	What's the resiliency one?
	The resiliency one is the speaking conferences that we do with active duty troops to help prevent them from dealing with PTSD, anxiety, depression, so it's more preventative.
	The recovery one is our legacy program which had 4,500 graduates from that.
	How hard was it to get, to be able to talk to the active duty?
	Was it a hard thing to organize?
	Originally it was, but you know, and honestly, Sebastian, I don't even understand how God just opened these doors because, uh, you'd think the military closed doors on us.
	We have such incredible access to our active duty troops and we get more requests for, uh, resiliency events that we can even handle.
	Wow.
	And so I speak to all the, all the Marine Corps bootcamp on East coast and West coast, every Marine for eight years now.
	That's amazing.
	There's only two speakers they allow in the Marine Corps boot camp and I'm one of them for eight years now.
	What's the topic of the other one?
	Do you know?
	Spiritual resiliency for me and spiritual.
	So both of us go and speak on spiritual resiliency.
	The military has these four pillars of resiliency, mind, body, Social spirit, and we get to speak on the fourth pillar.
	And the Marine Corps actually lets me give away my books, Path to Resiliency, which is that spiritual pillar, and we've given away 350,000 copies to the troops.
	But you have to pay for that?
	I pay for it, and we donate it to them.
	That's amazing.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, and by the way, the Marine Corps doesn't let them have anything, so to give them, Bill, to give them, that's like doing prison ministry, because they're going to read anything you give them.
	Right.
	It's like the Commandant's reading list.
	Right.
	I mean, they read what's in the ingredients in the Lysol can out of boredom.
	So if you give them something, they're going to read it.
	So it's really incredible that Marine Corps allows us to give them that.
	So Aziz, how tall are you?
	5.9.
	Twice your son?
	5.9?
	You're bigger than 5.9.
	No.
	You've got to be over 6 foot.
	Really?
	Well, that photograph.
	Put that photograph up again.
	Yeah.
	Probably six, yeah.
	To be honest with you, I never measured myself when I was getting my license.
	You know, the cop told me to drop a 5.9 over there, so... Oh, that's funny.
	Yeah, I don't think you're 5'9".
	All right, stand by.
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	Alright,
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	Alright, we're back with our special Friday guests.
	It is Chad Robichaud and the man that he has written a book on Aziz Ullah Aziz.
	It's called Saving Aziz.
	Guys, get this book.
	Look at the blurbs.
	I got this press packet.
	I don't need a press packet because Chad's an old buddy of mine, but he's got blurbs from the likes of Glenn Beck, my buddy Eric Metaxas.
	He's got, uh, who else?
	Phil Robertson, Duck Dynasty.
	He's got, oh, our other buddy Jack Carr as well.
	I mean, that's pretty, pretty impressive.
	Speaks for itself.
	So guys, get the book.
	But let me, let me ask you a question, Chad.
	Aziz just said, um, That he liked working with the Americans, he worked at the State Department, he wanted to work with you because the Americans were here, they knew what they were doing, and he just wanted to help them for the sake of Afghanistan.
	I have written a lot of articles, especially when I was in the DoD, about how little we knew about Afghanistan, and that's why we needed people like Aziz.
	How much of a problem was it for you on your multiple combat deployments?
	We went in there, Not really understanding the complexity, the tribes, the 30 different languages, the history, the Pashto versus the Hazara, the Hazara versus the, you know, whatever.
	Weren't we really hobbled for many years by our just rank ignorance of Afghanistan?
	Yeah, you know, being in special operations, I knew months ahead I was going to go to Afghanistan.
	I spent about four months studying the history of Afghanistan, studying every war that Afghanistan had been in for a thousand years, and really trying to understand the culture.
	And when I got there, I realized I knew very little.
	And for me to be able to operate and doing the special operations missions I was doing required me to have a, not only interpreter, but a cultural advisor that could lead me and to be able to go into remote areas The non-permissive areas for military units to go in and do operations.
	into a remote part of a town like Jalalabad or Abbottabad and be able to get in there and know, hey, what permits do I need on my vehicle?
	What licenses do I need to operate in this area?
	What's the language in a specific area?
	What's the cultural headwear?
	Like if I wear a Pakul, am I going to be welcomed for wearing a Pakul hat?
	Or am I going to be pulled out of my car and killed for wearing a Pakul hat?
	All these just cultural intricacies are so important to conducting special operations missions.
	And I studied as much as I could, but I could not have done the operations I've done successfully without an interpreter, cultural advisor, and teammate like Aziz.
	And so he proved to be essential for us to successfully negotiate hundreds of special operations missions over my eight deployments.
	Aziz, you said you wanted to help Afghanistan.
	You wanted to help your fellow Afghans to build a system with civil rights, rights for women.
	Where did you get that from?
	Because if you look at the Taliban, if you look at the current administration, they're not interested in modern civil rights or rights for women.
	So where did that passion come from?
	Well, actually, I was born with this desire, with this passion from the childhood, as I taught myself how to speak English.
	At that time when I learned English, there was no private courses in Afghanistan.
	There was no electricity.
	There was no internet.
	There was no laptop or smartphones.
	Nothing was available, resources-wise.
	So I went to these stationeries and bought these self-learning English books that had the English sentence, word, or grammatical structure.
	Or conversational sentences, and then in the bottom, with Pashto and Dari, it had the pronunciation, and then the meaning, and some explanations in my own language.
	And also, I was in exile in 1999 because of the Taliban, their first era.
	So where were you in exile?
	I was in exile in United Arab Emirates, Dubai.
	All right.
	We're going to continue the story.
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	This is America First with our buddy Aziz Ullah Aziz and Chad Robichaud.
	The book is Saving Aziz.
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	Two more segments left, guys.
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	I'm going to ask both of you about the consequences of the withdrawal of Afghanistan, and then what the future holds for the nation, and then the plight of other Terps as well, okay?
	Sounds good.
	So I can use some of that Afghanistan B-roll in this?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	And I have a few more pictures that were sent over as well.
	Good, excellent.
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	We are back with our good buddy Chad Robichaud and his former interpreter, cultural advisor Azizullah Aziz.
	The book is Saving Aziz.
	Let's talk about what's happened since the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
	First things first, Chad, you bled, you fought for these people, for the national interest, to fight jihadis.
	Just give us your unvarnished appreciation of the decision to leave Afghanistan the way Biden did.
	Well, you know, first of all, I believe America had been lied to for a long time about us being the endless war, this 20-year war that we had to get out of.
	2,500 troops there.
	We had shifted in 2018 to support and advise the role of the Afghan National Army, who was partnered in this international effort to support and advise the Afghan National Army to keep the Taliban at bay in the mountains of Afghanistan.
	So to tell the American people that we had to withdraw was definitely alternative motives.
	The idea that the United States couldn't maintain 2,500 troops is insane.
	I mean, I can name 10 places right now that we have 2,500 troops.
	Djibouti, Africa, Syria, Iraq.
	So we have 80,000 troops still in Japan since World War two and 40,000 in Germany 35,000 in South Korea since the Korean War So it's not consistent with strategic military strategy to keep contingent forces around the world to bring stability to the to the globe It's not about being in endless wars.
	It's about preventing wars.
	And so this was a huge I wouldn't even say error deliberately a deliberate deep deviation from military strategy from our commander in chief to do that.
	And we gave away the most strategic place in the globe between Iraq, Iran, Russia and China to our enemies, not to the Taliban, to China and Iran.
	And we gave that place away.
	And we didn't talk with the international community.
	We didn't talk with the Afghan national army.
	We didn't even tell our closest allies in Europe, like the UK, Chad.
	No, only the Taliban.
	That's all the people we talked to.
	And we gave that, including the American citizens, our allies, and $85 billion equipment away to our enemies and cost American lives and left behind 80,000 of our interpreters and gave away the strategic position.
	And Putin was watching.
	If you want to know why Ukraine's happening, it's because of this.
	It's because of Afghanistan.
	Yes.
	And while we're at risk with China, it's because of Afghanistan.
	All our enemies were watching.
	They seen how weak we were.
	And Putin, President, Vladimir Putin took advantage of it and seen, flexed on the border in January of 2022.
	And we buckled in and moved our troops out and gave a green light for Putin to move into Ukraine. - There's no invasion of Ukraine without the Biden surrender of Afghanistan.
	Aziz, I'm not going to ask where you are now.
	I presume you and your family are safe.
	God bless.
	Can you tell us the situation now in Afghanistan?
	I'm sure you're still in touch with either friends or relatives.
	How bad is the situation now with the withdrawal of U.S.
	forces?
	The situation is really, really bad in Afghanistan.
	It's worse than hell.
	All the girls are isolated, covered.
	They are not working outside.
	All the women, all the ladies that they used to work for the NGOs or private companies, they are all pushed back and isolated.
	They have to stay inside their house.
	They have to be covered.
	They cannot come outside to go to the market street to do the shopping.
	They have to have a male support with them 24-7.
	There is poverty, hunger.
	There is unemployment.
	There is no medical care.
	People are starving to death every day.
	There is lots of catastrophe.
	About not having enough food, people are dying.
	Even the main, they cannot, you know, address their opinion because of the barbaric regime installed over there.
	They are policing everything.
	The barbaric regime soldiers, they are having checkpoints on the roads.
	For example, if you are moving from one location to another location, they stop the people, they check their phones, they search their pockets.
	Overall, there is no freedom, there is no rights.
	They have closed all the schools for the females.
	They have also closed all the private colleges or the universities that were open until last year.
	They closed them all.
	Only the male can go to school, but even they are not able to pay the teachers that teach the male.
	There is all kinds of problems, hunger and famine.
	Overall, it's a very big human crisis.
	As an American taxpayer, I'm so confused because we are run by a government that is from the left that says they care for civil rights, they care for women's rights.
	Uh, how they can justify what's happened in Afghanistan tells you who they truly, truly are.
	We're talking to Aziz Ullah Aziz and Chad Robichaux of the Mighty Oaks Foundation.
	Follow Chad at Chad Robo.
	Because Robichard is hard to write.
	It's like kind of French kind of thing.
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	No.
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	Tell our listeners what Mighty Oaks does and how many people have been through your programs.
	Yeah, so Mighty Oaks Foundation does really four things.
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	Third thing we do is we have a policy program where we go to Washington, D.C., testify before Congress.
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	I've been to Ukraine 10 times and our teams continue to go out to Ukraine every month to bring spiritual resiliency programs to Ukrainian troops fighting for their freedoms.
	And we start organizations and efforts like When we went to get Aziz and ultimately we didn't only rescue Aziz, his wife and six kids, but 17,000 people during evacuations in Afghanistan.
	So that's what Mighty Oaks does.
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	Thank you, Aziz, for helping warriors like Chad and helping our interest to fight evil around the world.
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	Come in with cut eight, no liner.
	He's got him?
	Okay.
	Yep.
	Yes, you are.
	Fifteen.
	Fifteen. Fifteen.
	It was phony baloney Hollywood junk.
	They didn't need that.
	I absolutely disagree.
	They didn't need that.
	I think that that is a little partisan jab that you didn't have to make.
	No, they didn't need the air raid sirens.
	They had lost 100,000 people.
	Russia was notified that Biden was coming.
	Do you think Russia was going to drop a bomb on President Biden?
	Russia was not notified.
	Russia was not notified.
	Let me get back to the original point.
	That's not him by the way, that's Charles Payne and what is it Plant calls him?
	Jerry Rivers, Geraldo Rivera.
	Mr. G, since when does Sean Hannity have an audience?
	What's that?
	I mean, I haven't watched him in about five years, but since when does he have an audience?
	He does a live audience every now and then.
	I think it might be once a month, once a week.
	But it sounds like Jerry Springer there, I don't like it.
	Is he going for the Jerry Springer thing?
	I mean, what's going on?
	I'm not a big fan of it.
	Oh my gosh, all right.
	We didn't even mention it this week, the fake sirens when Biden was in Kiev.
	Even CNN commented there were no airstrikes or missile strikes occurring, but of course they had to switch on the sirens to make him look good.
	All right, let's talk about somebody who understands communications and doesn't fake them.
	I think he's back advising the boss.
	Baron Boris, are you there?
	I'm right here.
	I'm right here, Sebastian.
	Happy Friday.
	It's an honor to be with you.
	Happy Friday.
	It's good to be here.
	Did you get my cigar pictures yesterday?
	These are some of the best cigar pictures I've gotten yet.
	The big one, the star, the little one.
	The massive one!
	Very, very jealous.
	And then the little Cuban one.
	Whilst we're talking of cigars, everybody, I need to send a message to all three million listeners right now.
	This arrived in my mail today.
	It's a great, great selection of cigars.
	It's really creepy because I just had one of these last weekend and now I've got five of them.
	But dear listener, dear viewer, don't send me cigars without a little note.
	That who they're from!
	I gotta thank you!
	Our usual supplier, Roger.
	You know who you are, Roger F. You are a scholar and a gentleman.
	But I don't think these are from Roger, because they're from another purveyor.
	So, please tell us who you are, so I can thank you on air or privately.
	Boris, isn't it awful to get sent cigars for free?
	Oh, absolutely.
	Who would want three things, three cigars?
	That's very hard to take.
	I think anybody and everybody would complain.
	I know, especially if you're a big cigar fan like you are.
	All right, I hope you have an amazing weekend with lots of cigars, but let's get down to business.
	Eric, can you pull up the clip of President Trump at the McDonald's.
	I know we were going to play this as just a b-roll but this is this is so exciting.
	I immediately told Mar-a-Lago I don't know if you were the man behind it because you are now senior advisor but let's let's play the clip.
	Do we have audio Eric?
	Can we go back? - And we're gonna get the meals for the fire department.
	Hello everybody.
	What's your specialty today? - How are you today?
	- Nice to meet you.
	- Hello everybody, that's a nice, beautiful looking real food baby.
	So I know this menu better than you do.
	Okay?
	I probably know it better than anybody in here.
	We're going to take care of the fire department.
	Okay.
	We're going to take care of the police department.
	And what we do is all the people that are in here... I'm the owner, Mr. President.
	How are you?
	That's right.
	That's a good one to own, right?
	Yes, it is.
	One of the best.
	So we're going to take care of the fire force.
	Plus the people that are in here, they're going to get a nice free meal.
	All right?
	Thank you, everybody.
	Lunch from McDonald's for the whole police department, the fire department of East Palestine, and everybody in that McDonald's.
	Boris, everybody just looked so happy.
	Well, this is a historic trip, a historic day, and President Trump, again, showing who the real leader of America is, Sebastian.
	That President Trump is the leader that this country needs, is the leader it can depend on, while hopeless, pathetic,
	Literally, completely lost Joe Biden, was flailing away in Poland, and a fake trip to the Ukraine, fake in terms of the sirens, and then you have Pete Buttigieg, you get totally embarrassed during his three-week-too-late visit to East Palestine, where President Trump brought water, brought supplies, brought hope, and he brought attention to East Palestine, told the people of East Palestine that they're not forgotten, and finally, because of his trip,
	FEMA is now helping, other entities are helping, and even Pete Buttigieg deigned to get off his bike and get over there to East Palestine.
	Yeah, I commented if even people like the great, great Mayor Rudy Giuliani can go there.
	He was there yesterday reporting in on Steve Bannon's show just before I went on The War Room.
	Then I'm curious why I made a comment about Ron DeSantis not helping out, given that, you know, clearly he's going to make an announcement any moment.
	And people on Twitter got very angry at me, and they said, what has the governor of Florida got to do with this?
	And I said, well look, there are people like Ken Griffin, who are billionaire funders to Obama, who are helping to fund Ron DeSantis.
	Surely they could at least do as much as President Trump did, Boris.
	I think it's very clear, right, that President Trump is by far the only one, the only one who could bring leadership, bring strength, bring hope to places like East Palestine in a time of great trouble and great discontent.
	And that's what he did.
	Nobody else can do that.
	Nobody else can come close.
	That's why President Trump is absolutely dominating the polls.
	I mean, he's doubling up the next guy who hasn't even committed to running.
	And the right thing to do for anybody who's even thinking about challenging the president is to drop that terrible idea, is to endorse President Trump and come in with full strength and let's beat Joe Biden.
	Because none of these pretenders can ever even dream of defeating the president, the primary, especially after moments and events that show his strength again and again and again.
	Let's talk about the fact that it's not just Joe Biden.
	Here we have a photograph of yesterday, 20 days late, the Secretary of Transport boot edge edge in his lovely orange safety vest and his hard hat.
	President Trump didn't have to wear either of those.
	How creepy.
	As somebody who was born in the former Soviet Union, Boris, how creepy is it that when this man is asked by a reporter on the street whether he should have gone more rapidly to Ohio.
	He refuses to give an interview and then takes a photograph of a journalist and then the very next day his press secretary in Ohio refuses to ask questions on camera.
	What is it about this administration?
	Weren't we told that this was going to be the most transparent administration in American history, Barron?
	We weren't told, we were lied to.
	And this administration, under the leadership of hopeless, pathetic Joe Biden, continue to lie.
	They lie about his boxes, about his documents.
	They lied about helping the people of East Palestine.
	They lie about loving America.
	And hey, where was Joe Biden on Monday, President's Day?
	He was in Ukraine.
	He was in East Palestine.
	He was in Ukraine.
	Tale of two cities.
	And you know, all those memes about, hey, East Palestine just declared itself to be part of Ukraine just to get some help.
	They're not funny.
	They're sad.
	They're sad because it's the reality.
	Biden's spending billions and billions and billions of dollars to continue to fuel a conflict in a fire that's surrounded by nuclear reactors, while you have a disaster, a total disaster going on here in America, and Americans are not getting help except from President Donald J. Trump.
	President Trump is the real leader of America.
	Follow this man everywhere, BorisEP.com, BorisEpstein, Boris underscore Epstein, everywhere else.
	Boris, what do you expect in the coming months?
	I would like to see 2015 to be as... 2024 to be as fun as 2015.
	Do you expect a large number of candidates?
	We had Vivek Ramaswamy on the show yesterday because, you know, that's when President Trump excels.
	What are your expectations for the field?
	My expectations are that, you know, again, if the pretenders choose to jump in, that's up to them.
	I'm not going to tell anybody what to do, but my number one expectation and something that I'm extremely confident is that President Trump is going to crush any field in the primary and then crush Joe Biden, whoever runs for the pathetic Democrats in the general, and walk back into the Oval Office Jan 20, 2025.
	All right.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Please do tell everyone at Mar-a-Lago.
	I sent a text to a certain person there.
	I think you know who he is.
	But I want you to congratulate them on the incredible, incredible trip to Ohio.
	And just we want to see more of it.
	Why?
	Because there is no leadership coming out of the White House.
	There's no leadership coming out of the various departments that should be helping Americans such as those suffering in East Palestine.
	And President Trump can make a difference.
	God bless, my friend.
	Have a wonderful cigar-filled weekend.
	Follow him at borisep.com.
	Thank you, Boris Epstein, everywhere.
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	Let's begin with this China issue.
	Are you convinced now that they are going to send arms to Russia?
	And how worried are you that that could turn the tide of the war?
	Well, we're very concerned that they're thinking about it.
	Up until now, Chinese companies have provided non-lethal support.
	From day one, President Biden warned President Xi not to provide material lethal assistance to Russia for use against Ukraine or to engage in the systematic evasion of sanctions.
	And the information we have suggests that they're now actively thinking about that, which is why We've been public about warning them not to.
	That is the most senior diplomat in America who says he's very concerned that China will supply arms to Russia.
	Very concerned.
	People are dying and you're very concerned?
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	It's a tragic anniversary.
	It's a sad anniversary.
	No better guest to have in studio than our good friend, Vice President of the Heritage Foundation, responsible for all matters of national security and foreign policy.
	And not only that, he's like a Greek bearing gifts, but it's not a Trojan horse.
	It's an apple pie.
	I think I mentioned one last week, and you are a good man, Charlie Brown.
	And that is a very good apple pie.
	Today's fresh, fresh apple pie from a gun.
	Is this one of the ones that President Trump bought?
	I think not.
	I think I bought it next door.
	Probably.
	I'm guessing it's just as damn good.
	Just as good.
	All right.
	We will savor that, but we've got work to do.
	What does the world think, whether you're Beijing or whether you're London, when our chief diplomat says, we're very concerned?
	I mean, there's a war going on, Jim.
	So if Blinken, all he has to do is say, don't give arms to the Russians, why didn't he say, like, don't send a spy balloon over the country?
	Good point.
	But Lincoln's like 0 and 5 with the Chinese.
	From his first meeting!
	I think he's a boy toy.
	They have no respect for him.
	You know, as I said many times, the Chinese pay attention to what we do, not what we say.
	And so if the U.S.
	government was really serious about that, what we would do is walk in and Blinken would say this.
	He says, I have just handed the Chinese government a list of 47 companies that we will not only sanction, but I guarantee you that tomorrow there will be 100 Treasury agents out talking to every government in the world enforcing these sanctions.
	So you know what?
	Go ahead.
	Send your hundred drones to Russia.
	See how you like that, my friend.
	That's what you would do.
	But the trouble is, Jim, it's not just this beta boy who likes to... I'm not joking, guys.
	If you don't believe me, look it up.
	Post videos of himself on YouTube playing a guitar.
	Yeah.
	Tony Blinken.
	No, here's the sad thing.
	He's a better singer than he is a Secretary of State.
	Yeah, that's saying something.
	But it's not just the State Department.
	This is incredible.
	This is the man who runs the Pentagon, a former four-star general, former board member of Raytheon.
	This is Secretary Lloyd Austin talking on CNN about, again, China.
	Just listen to what he says.
	Cut to.
	When was the last time you talked to him?
	The last time that I talked to him was a couple of months ago.
	Wow.
	I mean, how concerning is that, that the Secretary of Defense in the U.S.
	can't get your counterpart in China on the phone?
	There must be a big risk involved with that.
	I think it's important to be aware.
	It's not like we don't have any lines of communication open.
	You just saw Secretary Blinken talk to his counterpart in Munich.
	And so there are diplomatic lines of communication open.
	But I think for the military it's really, really important that we maintain open lines of communication.
	And right now there's not really one between the U.S.
	military and the Chinese military.
	That's right.
	But it doesn't mean that there won't be one.
	That doesn't mean they're... Jim, there's a war in Europe.
	Chinese spy balloons.
	And he says, well, maybe they'll pick up the phone and answer my call.
	Look, Austin can talk to the Chinese anytime he wants.
	All he has to do is go on any radio or TV or cable news show and just say whatever he damn well... And the Chinese will hear that.
	So this notion is, we have to stop treating the Chinese like this is some kind of boyfriend that we're having trouble with, right?
	This is an adversary who goes to sleep every night dreaming about a world in which America is alone, diminished and isolated.
	And they're our enemy.
	And you're talking about them like we just have a misunderstanding here.
	We need couples therapy.
	We don't need couples therapy.
	We need to take the other person and beat them around the head and shoulders until they realize that they are messing with the wrong country.
	I look at a Jake Sullivan and I look at his CV and I realize this guy is never going to amount to anything.
	But we're talking about four-star generals.
	We're talking about people who served on the board.
	I mean, are these people just whipped into submission?
	We're not talking about four-star generals.
	We're talking about a generation of military leaders who largely were appointed and grew up in the age of Obama.
	and who were absent from the Cold War, absent from making hard, tough choices at that middle.
	Yes, yes.
	They served in combat, many of them with distinction, in Iraq and Afghanistan.
	We get that.
	But then they went up to the senior level and...
	Everything was politics.
	And the thing is, everything was politics, and if you wanted to go to the cocktail parties, if you wanted your star, you needed a play ball.
	And they became accustomed to playing ball, and they've been doing that ever since.
	I think, and I say this in all sincerity, served in the military for 25 years, served in the Pentagon, served with many senior officers, and I don't say this as a historian who's studied generations of leaders.
	And I don't mean this in an uncharitable way, because I honor their service and I appreciate that.
	It's the worst generation of senior level officers we've ever had in modern times.
	Going back to maybe Vietnam.
	I think one of the metrics for that, because I've been thinking about this for a long time, even when I witness these people, these political generals in the DoD.
	There should be a metric that's very easy.
	If there's problems with wars we're having or political ideology being inserted into the military, how many senior officers have resigned on principle?
	They don't anymore.
	We have that in the past.
	But in the past, when somebody said, this is wrong, this is political, or this mission is impossible, I can't do that, people would resign in principle.
	That hasn't happened for, what, 20 years?
	Well, so let me tell you a story, because you know, I was in the Pentagon in the 1990s, and Bill Clinton was president, and he tried to do all kinds of crazy things.
	And I was actually quite critical of many of the bosses I had.
	And their attitude, quite honestly, was, well, if I left, they'd just put somebody else in here and they wouldn't be any better.
	But having said that, they did manage to make inroads with Bill Clinton on defense spending and on other silliness.
	But he wasn't an ideologue.
	And this is the point.
	He wasn't.
	And this was a generation of officers who did grow up in Vietnam and saw the failures of that senior leadership to deal with Vietnam and who were determined not to do that.
	And in retrospect, I said, you know, they actually did a fairly decent job of ushering us through the 1990s.
	I don't see that in this generation.
	And when these guys say, well, I'm not resigning because somebody else...
	It's about them.
	It's about them.
	And some of them I actually believe that they believe in these yahoos that are running this.
	But they're not people of character and selfless service in the tradition of seniority.
	They're 50 years old.
	He may have been there from the beginning.
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	After these messages.
	I had this conversation with a former Senator, a former Senator Hoshelmer named Amos and And this was at the end of the Obama years.
	I said, you know what?
	The next president just needs to go ahead and clean this out.
	And he said, no, no, no, no, no.
	You felt it back then?
	Yeah, I think one of the mistakes we made is we didn't push Trump to clean house.
	That was a mistake.
	John?
	He's not here.
	Yeah.
	What do you need him for?
	No, no, no, it's not urgent.
	It's the lava lamp thing.
	We'll talk to him when he's back.
	You know, I wonder, you know, I wonder if there is a generation behind them that'll, you know, this is, it's not, it's these guys, you know, I don't know if they're, first of all, you can never actually tell a generalist's politics.
	But it's not about whether they're liberal or conservative.
	It is the appropriate role of the military and civil-military relations.
	And it's understanding you don't do politics, but you need to understand politics.
	And you're not the political plaything of a government.
	You have to respect and do all that.
	If you can't do that, you resign and everything else.
	But there's plenty of ways you can do this and protect the equities of selfless service in the military.
	And they don't do that.
	They just roll over like there's no tomorrow.
	What do you want next?
	Like when Joe and Victoria were in here, when the camera was on her, that lava lamp framed the guest superbly.
	Every time there's a guest here, you just see the little bit of the screen here, it makes no sense.
	I was wondering, either let's always have the guest here, or if the sight line for me like this is better, slide that out, so it's looking at the lava, whatever works easiest.
	Yeah, I think, yeah, I guess sometimes your arm gets a little bit in the way, we have to have you do that.
	So yeah, we can pull this one out a little bit and then...
	So next week, let's frame it up with one of you guys sitting here, so that we get lava lit.
	Yeah, good.
	Minute 45.
	Right, so I'm going to use MillieCut7.
	MillieCut7?
	And then the headline of... Millie, 72 Hours.
	72 Hours.
	Yeah, I have that.
	Do you want reminders?
	Has it been 72 hours yet?
	You know, that's a great article.
	I was writing while you were speaking.
	Obama's generals.
	The cost of Obama's generals.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Alex, can you sense a difference in the new lavalier?
	Not really, to be honest.
	I just got a text from Garrett and he says he's listened to it and he thinks it sounds better.
	Really?
	We'll see on the podcast.
	Do you want reminders about, like, the MyPillows and the Pods?
	Or just the, uh... It helps, because sometimes I just forget.
	All right.
	Pod, I... A-block, I always remember.
	Everything else will be great.
	You said you'll tee up Cut7?
	Yeah.
	Sorry, Jim.
	No, it's all right.
	Sure.
	I'm just reading my phone.
	So how many pieces do you write a week?
	It's all math.
	But you try and do like a couple.
	No, not really.
	I mean, if the mood strikes me or if you really ask me, like the post-call, ask for peace.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
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	This is what Mark Milley had to say about the war in Ukraine.
	This year.
	What is achievable, I think, is significant liberation of Ukrainian territory and maybe, if we're lucky, touch wood, the diplomats will enter the fray here and they'll get to a negotiating table at some point.
	I think, at the end of the day, President Biden, President Zelensky, every European leader has said the same thing, which is this war will end at a negotiating table, and that's probably right.
	This is the same Mark Milley.
	Here's a reminder of the headline who, at the instigation of the war, said Kiev can fall within 72 hours.
	72 hours.
	Now, Jim Carafano, he's saying, have you ever heard of a chairman of the Joint Chiefs or any senior general saying, knock on wood, hopefully there'll be a peace settlement.
	Knock on wood.
	Could you imagine Eisenhower saying, knock on wood?
	It's a clown show!
	Well, it is a clown show, and it starts with the President, and then they all just mimic him.
	So, Biden takes this photo op, which, let's be honest, going to Ukraine and the speech in Poland were photo ops with no meaningful meaning or impact whatsoever.
	Joe Biden goes, I'm the hero.
	If he really was a hero, He would have gone, like other leaders, six months ago when the fate of Ukraine was hanging out.
	Hang on.
	Can I just stop here?
	Because what you just said is really important.
	Because you can strip all politics.
	It doesn't matter whether he's a Republican or a Democrat.
	The question is, did it make a difference?
	It made no difference.
	Exactly.
	I mean, I went six months ago.
	It's not that hard.
	We have to remember that Biden was the guy who, when he came in office, literally told the Europeans and the Russians and Ukrainians, not my problem.
	Ukraine's Europe's problem.
	I am Pontius Pilate here, right?
	Then the war starts, and his first brave act of courage is to call up the president of an embattled country fighting to save his people and saying, why don't you get on a plane?
	Yeah, we'll send a plane.
	That was the act of courage.
	And this is the guy that ran away in Afghanistan.
	And the thing that galled me the most is this, you know, basically, you know, speaking for us, saying, well, we will be there for you as long as it takes.
	I can imagine how many people in Afghanistan heard that and said, "Yeah, that's a good one." - Wow. - Right?
	I mean, we're living in Taliban hell. - Wow. - Yeah, so. - We just had a former Afghan interpreter on the show who got out by the skin of his teeth.
	Okay, so I wrote a piece for my sub stack where I gave my expectations Tell me what you think after a year of fighting.
	The Ukrainians are going to fight for as long as it takes, because they're never going to give up.
	And the Russians aren't ready for any kind of off-ramp, right?
	So what's the future?
	And the West isn't going to stop supporting them, even though it's impossible.
	I mean, the resilience of the European governments, for example, between the inflation and the energy prices and everything else.
	The Ukrainians are doing something that NATO didn't do for decades, which is take the Russian military down to the point where it's actually probably not going to be a threat to anybody.
	The most interesting I just saw was intelligence from the British assessment, which this vaunted offensive Which was already modestly torqued down to consolidating control of the territory that the Russians already own.
	Now they think that the Russians have already given up on that, and that it's just a strategy of exhaustion.
	This is like the strategy in World War I. The Russians think if we just keep fighting, the Ukrainians will get exhausted and quick.
	Well, you know the problem with the strategy of exhausting?
	It's as exhausting for the people as it is for this.
	And who gets exhausted more?
	The attacker or the defender?
	Trick question, right?
	The answer is, it's always the attacker.
	Because he's the one that's got to get up, he's exposed, he's running through the microphone.
	He's on somebody else's land!
	The defender's in a foxhole, right?
	And so the offensive guy's always going to take more casualties.
	That's why typically they say 3-1 to attack.
	And remember, every day that Putin's fighting, his army is worse than the day before.
	These are untrained troops.
	They're ill-equipped.
	They're fighting in terrible weather.
	Soon they're going to be fighting in mud.
	And his strategy is to exhaust the Ukrainians?
	It's like George Foreman exhausting Muhammad Ali in the Philippines.
	Bingo.
	Oh yeah, the Rumble in the Jungle.
	He always gives us some kind of historic filmic reference.
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	We, um... We were at SHOT Show not too long ago.
	It is the, uh...
	Biggest convocation of the gun industry.
	Every year.
	And sometimes you just see some things which are super, super cool.
	And here's one of them.
	Here's a little video of... Well, look.
	AR is the most popular rifle out there, outside of the Ruger 10-22.
	But as the most popular centerfire rifle, I'm pretty sure you haven't seen this.
	Play video cut.
	Corby Hall with Fold AR here.
	I'm going to show you the double folder.
	fits in this pack right here.
	So it's as simple as that to get it out and ready.
	So it's ready to go right now.
	I'll put it back in the bag.
	That's ready to be sewed away.
	A little bit wonky there.
	Now for those of you who are listening on radio, let me explain to you what just happened.
	In less than 29 seconds, a man took a folding AR-15 out of a, like a fanny pack, assembled it, And then folded it back again and put it into the pack.
	It's quite stunning.
	It's not two separate pieces you have to screw around with and then torque wrenches and everything else.
	It literally snaps into place and then snaps back.
	And we've got him on the show.
	He is the man behind the Fold AR.
	Corby Hall, welcome to America First.
	Thanks, Dr. G. So, I saw this for the first time last SHOT Show.
	Super impressed.
	I don't think you were there at the Ranger.
	I missed you.
	One of your colleagues showed it to me.
	I've got a folding AR, but it's not folding.
	I mean, you have to just take it apart.
	You have to screw with it and whatever.
	This thing literally has two hinges.
	Will you tell us the genesis of the Fold AR?
	Because I shot it and I was impressed.
	Oh, yeah.
	That was the double fold model.
	Our main technology is in the single folding hinge on the barrel here.
	So the way this works is it does not have a barrel nut.
	You may or may not be able to see that.
	Yeah, we got it.
	We can see it.
	But it folds in and there's a male cone here and a female cone in the upper.
	So there's no more barrel nut to hold the barrel on.
	So it's able to be folded up.
	And then this latch on the side here.
	Again, I'm trying to get the light right.
	Snaps together.
	And that's it.
	So you close it.
	One latch and it's ready to fire.
	Yes sir.
	All right.
	So tell us how did you come up with this?
	Why did you come up with it?
	Well, um, I designed firearms previously and my first, uh, my first thought was take the barrel nut out.
	I don't like aligning the barrel nut.
	I don't like twerking it on.
	You have to align it with the gas tubes.
	Didn't like doing that.
	So I came up with a four bolt pattern on the front.
	Again, I can't get the light right to show you that, but there's, in my previous model, there was four bolts that hold the, that held the barrel on instead of a barrel nut.
	When I kept going with this design, I figured, okay, if there's not a barrel nut, then we can put a hinge on one side and a latch on the other.
	And then we can just fold this thing.
	And, you know, I had apprehensions when I, when I came out with the design.
	So, Tested it out on a 308 model and that was back in 2016 and put the string on the trigger stood behind the tree.
	You know, empty the mag.
	That high-tech safety mechanism of standing behind a tree pulling a piece of string.
	Well, look, I haven't, I don't have one, but I saw it at the range.
	The build quality, if that's reflexive of what you sell, the build quality is very impressive.
	It's FoldAR.com, FoldAR.com.
	Tell us, you've been texting me all morning, fascinating ideas.
	Tell us how this applies.
	For example, To certain scenarios such as the tragedy we witnessed in Uvalde.
	Yeah, so after Uvalde, we had a spot on Newsmax and we started getting quite a few inquiries from school districts on the Texas border specifically.
	We were able to fulfill the demand for a set of full ARs.
	I can't name the school district, but We were able to fulfill that school district with 34 of our double folds and they're protecting nearly 50,000 students on the border.
	Wow.
	And, you know, we've kept it pretty private.
	They didn't necessarily want the public to know and until they're ready.
	So we we've abided by that.
	But they have had they've done a training program there.
	They are loving the guns.
	They're carrying them in the schools.
	Every SRO, there's again, there's 34 of them, I believe, in that district.
	And each of them carry a double fold all day long in a pack.
	No kids know that they have them in there.
	It's equivalent to the size of a standard medical pack.
	So they're able to engage with their pistol first, if it comes to it.
	And if there is, I mean, they've got one hallway that's 250 feet long, so you can't do anything with a pistol on that.
	So they go for their pistol first, and if that doesn't do the job, then they go to their pack and pull out their full AR and get the job done.
	But this isn't a product that's, you know, aimed exclusively for, you know, safety officers.
	This is for any American who wants to have a greater capacity, but with them everywhere, correct?
	Yeah, the whole idea was anybody that needs an AR-15 that needs to get from point A to point B without presenting themselves as a threat or intimidating.
	So you got law enforcement applications, you got military applications, and you got civilian applications.
	If you need to get from point A to point B and not present yourself as a threat, this is the product.
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	We've been talking to the president and owner, Corby Hall.
	Congratulations on your new product.
	Well, not new.
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	- Right.
	I know, it's crazy.
	Can you play me six again?
	Cut six.
	Yep.
	What disturbed me today by what you were saying was, to go to the all-time high, we're going back to like 1980, and then to show that we're below the worst recent levels, we're like, Uh, uh, basis points away from the worst, most recent levels.
	I mean, this is still bad.
	This is as bad as it's been since the 80s, and it's only moderated a little bit.
	Alright.
	Uh, we didn't play Cup 4 on air, right?
	Not on air, no.
	Colbert, no.
	We played Tucker, Millie and Austin.
	Blinken, excuse me.
	Yeah, we played everything else.
	Wanna come in with anything?
	No, I'll just T up that.
	Alrighty, T up, cut six.
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	Welcome back, dear friends.
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	You know, there was somebody who predicted there will be a time when the mainstream, the left, the MSM turns on Biden and his cronies Maybe that time has come.
	Maybe that time has come.
	Stephen Colbert, who's not a funny man anymore.
	He was maybe 10 years ago.
	He's lashing out at Mare Boot Edge Edge.
	Cut 4.
	Speaking of transit, it has been 20 days since the horrific train derailment and chemical spill in East Palestine, Ohio.
	And today, Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg finally visited the site.
	20 days late!
	I'm glad he's not an EMT.
	Let's see here.
	Time of death, three weeks ago.
	Clear!
	Looks like Buttigieg knows he acted too slowly, admitting that he could have spoken out sooner, adding, and I would have been here earlier, but traffic was a mess, the trains are a disaster, all the flights were cancelled, someone should really deal with this country's transportation.
	Wow, that's a double whammy.
	Making fun of him for coming late, and then listing all the disastrous happenings in the last two years with our transportation sector.
	Mr. G, are you there?
	I am.
	I mean, should we read something into that?
	Is that significant or not?
	I mean, because Colbert, he just attacks President Trump and conservatives every night on his show.
	The fact that he's doing it with a Biden secretary, is that a big deal or not?
	I thought it was a big deal when he did the second one, because he really attacked basically what the guy's been responsible for the last two years.
	That's what surprised me right there.
	The first one was a joke.
	I kind of got that.
	But the second part was that that makes him look bad.
	That makes Mayor Pete look really bad.
	And on top of that, the performing seals in the audience actually kept on laughing at Mayor Pete.
	Yeah, they didn't clap like they usually do.
	Oh, yes.
	Yes.
	Nice.
	You actually, you have a point there.
	All right, dear friends, it may be happening.
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	And John, can we just slide this camera and just see... Oh, is he gone?
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	When you're thinking of future careers, if you don't want to be an astronaut, oh, welcome.
	This is the Manhood Hour.
	I am your host, Sebastian Walker, where we explore the delights of toxic masculinity and celebrate those who have built Western civilization.
	When you're thinking about what you want to be when you grow up, do you want to be a fighter pilot, an astronaut?
	Do you want to be a G-man?
	Do you want to be a SEAL?
	Or do you want to be a Sky Marshal?
	What if you get to do three of these?
	I mean, that's just nuts!
	No boy gets to do that, do they?
	Well, maybe they do if they're our next guest for the Manhood Hour.
	We're delighted to have him with us.
	Jonathan Gillam, my friend.
	Welcome to America First, the Manhood Hour.
	I just feel like I should show my profile for some strange reason.
	I don't know what that's all.
	But that music playing?
	Isn't that good?
	I bet you love that music.
	As long as you don't do this.
	Okay, can I give a lesson to anybody who's doing a headshot?
	If the photographer says, rest your hand, your head on your hands, don't do it.
	You look really weak and pathetic.
	You can do this.
	You can do the Houdin, the Thinker, but don't do the, you know, the head on the chin thing.
	Does not look good.
	And I don't think you can because your beard is carved out of granite.
	You couldn't even put your hand on your chin, could you?
	Even worse than that is the old grammar shots where they do this right here.
	Like, who does this?
	Oh yeah, who does this?
	No, it's silly.
	Nobody puts both of their fists under their face.
	Alright dude, we're going to have so much fun today.
	We're already having fun.
	First things first, for those who have been living under a rock while you've been doing what you do, tell them how Jonathan Gillum exists, and how he gets to be a Sky Marshal, an FBI agent, and a SEAL, and at the end of that discussion, tell me which one is the coolest.
	Well, so I grew up in Arkansas in the middle of nowhere and we had pump water and outhouse and my father was out of the picture very early.
	So my mom was always my rock and she kind of raised me to believe that I can do anything that I want to do, which is, you know, I always say that If you teach a young person to be a disciplined person, they will grow up and be a disciplined adult.
	And so she constantly instilled in me that I had the ability to do whatever I dreamed about doing.
	So as I got older, you know, at first I wanted, of course, like every other kid, I wanted to be a baseball pitcher and, you know, pick these things that we see on TV that are cool.
	And then I ended up getting into running and weightlifting because I was a little guy, believe it or not.
	So, when I graduated high school and I went to California, I met a SEAL, and I was going to college out there, paying my own way through school, going to junior college, and then eventually graduating.
	At that point, it's not about playing ball, you're in college, what were you thinking would be your future before you met this SEAL?
	Well, I was majoring in religions and philosophy.
	So at that point, I knew that I wanted to go in the military.
	I'd seen Top Gun.
	I thought, you know, I want to be a pilot at this point and then go into federal law enforcement.
	And I kind of had this calling of what I wanted to do.
	But when I met this SEAL and he told me, he's a real spiritual guy, he told me about what he was doing.
	So Because I was majoring in philosophy and in religions at the time, I sat down and prayed about it and talked to God.
	And I said, I want you to lead me in your calling, where you want me to go.
	So I think that was a huge part of it.
	I sat down and I took a piece of paper and I wrote now or present.
	And at the end of that paper, I wrote death.
	And then I said, how old are you?
	At this point I'm like 22, I think.
	This makes me think of when Harry met Sally and when he says, I'm so dark I read the last chapter of every new book first, just in case I die before I finish it.
	So you're 22, you get on a piece of paper and you're right now on the left, and then dead on the right, and you're trying to map out your life.
	What did you write on that piece of paper, Jonathan?
	Well, I said, I asked the Lord, I said, you, you show me where you want me to go.
	And, and I just wrote down all the things that were coming to me.
	So I wanted to be a cop or I wanted to graduate college.
	Let me back up there.
	I wanted to be a springboard diver.
	That was one thing I really definitely wanted to learn.
	Hang on, that came out of left field.
	We went from baseball to military.
	And then where does the springboard diver come in?
	Well, I grew up in Arkansas and jumping off of bluffs in the water.
	And I was always a diver.
	So I felt like I was good enough to compete, even though these people that compete are really young.
	And they learn from a young age.
	So I wrote that down.
	Graduate college.
	Be a police officer.
	become a Navy SEAL, go to ranger school while I'm in SEAL and the SEAL teams, because I'd read that you could do that and then get out and go into federal law enforcement and then eventually go take all that experience and go into DC Senator.
	And so that, that was actually had president written on there at first.
	I'm I had a lot of high hopes and so I wrote President and then I changed that to Senator.
	I felt like all those things were things that I needed that I was being called to do for a reason one reason or another and that and that led me up pretty much to death.
	So which I now know why Senator President was last because you know, that's That is, you're pretty much dead.
	You have to be 80 years old, right?
	That's why.
	I've never heard that kind of pre-planning before except for one thing I did when I was a kid.
	I've got to share it now because I don't think I've ever done it to our radio listeners.
	When I was a little boy, And my parents were working.
	My dad was working.
	My mom was working.
	I got looked after by relatives and widows, friends of the family.
	And I saw all these older women who had their partners die, their husbands die.
	And I looked at that, and I thought, how old was Aunt Claire's husband?
	Oh, he was 10 years older than her, and he left her alone.
	And that's so sad.
	You know what I did, Jonathan?
	I was about eight years old, and I said, This is wrong to leave women alone and as an older guy to marry a younger woman, which is so common.
	My dad was nine years older than my mother.
	I said, I'm going to marry somebody who's 10 years older than me.
	It's like at age eight, so that we die at the same time.
	I said that to myself.
	Now, I don't want anybody to tell my wife that I'm saying this publicly in front of 3 million people.
	My wife is 10 years older than me.
	So that's the only thing I planned, like you did, but I want us to leave this earth at about the same time.
	But I'm impressed that you had all your careers on a line.
	Alright, so you're there, you've written it down.
	Police, SEALs, Rangers, Senate, President maybe.
	What happened next?
	those things started to manifest itself.
	I really do believe that once you write something down, it becomes reality.
	Well, it becomes, you can think it and dream it, but when pencil or pen touches paper, now it's a physical, tangible thing.
	And so I set out very ruthlessly to achieve those things.
	I literally went to the coach of the junior college, Grossmont Junior College in San Diego.
	I went to the coach there and said, I want to be a springboard diver.
	He said, are you any good?
	I said, I did a few dives.
	He goes, well, you got some talent, but you're not that good.
	So I said, all right, I'll go get a coach.
	So I went and paid for a coach to train me and came back there the next semester and competed and didn't win anything but was a really incredible experience because it's a very aggravating and disciplined sport.
	But I learned, and I did it.
	So that was the first jump in.
	And then I went back to Arkansas, graduated college, and got on with the police department, making $15,800 a year.
	At Camp Robinson Police Department.
	So you remember your first paycheck?
	Oh, it was, yeah, there's hardly anything there.
	So I had applied, I already had my ducks in a row, and I had applied to the Navy, and the seals were not the same as it is now.
	So it was a lot different in how you get in there.
	But I also applied, because when I talked to this guy, This SEAL in San Diego, he had said, you know, apply for everything and then you can work your way over there if you have to.
	So I applied for a pilot slot in the Navy, pilot slot in the Marine Corps and for a SEAL slot.
	And I got turned down by all of them the first year.
	And then because my grades just on the test just wasn't high enough.
	So I studied hard, came back and got turned down again.
	And Seal, I just didn't have the PT scores and I didn't know because we didn't have a recruiter that was specific for that like they do now.
	So I got in touch with, through all these channels, a detailer for the Seals and he told me what I needed.
	All right, I want to stop there.
	I want to know what the detailer told you.
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	You've tried once.
	You didn't get in.
	You meet somebody from the SEALs.
	What advice does he give you?
	You have to work on your PT scores.
	So was it a grueling year of training?
	What did you do, Jonathan?
	I had to learn or I had to be able to do 100 push-ups in two minutes, 100 sit-ups in two minutes, 18 pull-ups minimum, run a mile and a half in boots and pants running at least six-minute miles, and then do a 500-meter swim run a mile and a half in boots and pants running at least six-minute miles, and then do a 500-meter swim in under, I think So I trained and trained.
	I went and found somebody who was on the swim team and asked them to help me perfect my stroke.
	I changed my workout up.
	I started getting up early in the morning.
	And this is, you know, I think outside the box, Sebastian.
	So I wanted to run faster.
	So I went, I used to run all these races and there was one girl that went to the college I went to.
	She was strikingly beautiful, but she was also faster than me.
	So I went up to her, asked her, I said, would you want to run with me?
	And, uh, cause I'm training for this.
	And she's like, yeah, but I run every morning at five 30 in the morning.
	So I was like, okay, if there's one thing is going to get me up and get me running, it's an extremely beautiful girl who runs faster than me.
	So, Every day I get up and we run six to eight miles, and she is a ballistically fast runner.
	Every day?
	Six to eight miles?
	Six to eight miles, and then two times a week, and we wouldn't run distance, we'd do speed work.
	Wow.
	And then on Sundays I would just do a fun run, just slow and take it easy.
	She was, uh, it was incredible training with her.
	I think maybe the Seals need to actually incorporate that where they take a supermodel, have her run in front of them.
	Let's just, just give us her first name so we can salute her.
	What was it?
	I don't even remember.
	I don't even remember her name.
	You can't remember this beautiful lady's name who got you into the Seals teams?
	I do not remember her name.
	You just broke a heart.
	You just broke a beautiful woman's heart when she hears this.
	I know.
	I need to find her someday and thank her because she's really... I can tell her that my running is because of her.
	My ability to run.
	Alright, so did you get in?
	Is that how you got into Bud's?
	What happened next?
	So I finally got to where my scores were good enough.
	I went there, did the PT test and submitted my application to the detailer at the Pentagon.
	Because, again, we didn't have a recruiter that I could trust to do that, so I literally drove to D.C.
	and gave my entire packet to him, and he said, unfortunately, they had already picked all the slots for that year, but I could come back a year later, and he would really super consider my application.
	I could hear guys laughing in the background because I was talking to them on the phone.
	And I said, OK, I'll be back a year to the day.
	And I was.
	And my scores were even better.
	And he said, OK, you're good.
	You're good to go.
	And within six weeks, I was in Officer Candidate School.
	All right, so how long did you serve with the SEAL teams, with the Frogmen?
	I was at SEAL Team 4 my entire career, and so I was a total of five years in the Navy.
	Okay, and then what happened next, and why did you move on?
	Was it part of that piece of paper you'd written down?
	Well, it was.
	I mean, I wanted to stay in longer, but see, I didn't go in until I was 27.
	I went through Ranger school at 30, so I was a lot older.
	And I could see this window closing for the federal law enforcement.
	It's like 32 or something for the FBI?
	I think it's 35.
	So I was at 33 at that point, and I think I was 33, somewhere around there.
	But the problem was Sebastian, if I re-upped, it was going to take me over that timeline.
	So I had to make a critical decision.
	Was I going to follow the timeline or am I just going to stay in the Navy?
	I really had this calling.
	And the Air Marshal program opened wide up.
	We were not being used at that time because 9-11 had happened, but only certain groups were being used, and I'd been sitting there for six months doing nothing.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Was this seals or for marshals?
	For the seals.
	So yeah, you were down-tempo, 9-11 hadn't happened.
	You see an opportunity for a federal law enforcement officer, air marshals, and then that's your next station?
	That's where I jumped.
	Within two weeks of leaving the SEAL teams, I jumped in the Air Marshals.
	And we have to go through their academy, which was pretty easy.
	And then from there, I was flying undercover on planes for a year.
	For those who aren't familiar, before 9-11, what routes were those?
	Were those all international?
	Was it Middle Eastern?
	How did they choose where to send you?
	Well, before 9-11, there was less than a hundred air marshals.
	When I got in there, there were thousands.
	And they were bringing them in left and right, as many as they could get in.
	And basically, they choose the planes based on a certain set of statistics.
	about the plane, the specific plane, and where they're going.
	And that's basically all I can say about that.
	So they put people on where they think that the planes are big enough and most likely to be used.
	And so that's how they pick us.
	And we're undercover on the plane.
	Nobody knows that we're on there except our partner and the crew, of course.
	And so we're there.
	And if anything occurs— I have to say, right now, I'm going to say thank you to the Air Marshals.
	I'm gonna salute Why because my wife was traveling alone with our children transatlantically and one guy was being very strange very suspicious She
	was watching him she had you know tactical awareness and up came a large individual and said don't worry ma'am we're gonna watch him you don't have to worry about the thing he was an air marshal and within an hour after things got a little bit even hairier that man was um zip tied to the seat and he was neutralized that's all i'm going to say so the air marshals are real guys they're out there and they're protecting people like my family so god bless the marshals Yeah.
	And it goes from 0 to 100 just like that.
	Like, where else are you going to go?
	I mean, once something escalates on a plane and it shows that it's a potential threat to the cockpit, that's really where that, you know, if two people are arguing, they're not going to get involved in that.
	But if it shows like it might be a potential threat that could move towards the cockpit, That's where it'll get stuck.
	Well, and this person, I don't think there was any intel on him taking on the cockpit, but this person had serious mental issues and he needed to be neutralized and he was neutralized before he did anything dangerous to the fellow passengers.
	Alright, so where does the FBI come along?
	What's that decision point?
	So I went into contracting with other SEALs.
	I left Air Marshals after a while and went into contracting.
	I was doing, all over the United States, doing threat assessments for Homeland Security through a company that was an incredible company.
	And then I applied to the FBI.
	I said, okay, this is it.
	I've been here doing this for three years and this is where my career has taken me.
	And I got in pretty quick.
	A little secret is when When I took the test for the FBI, somebody came up to me and said, listen, when you take that written test, remember it's written by liberals.
	So don't think like an operator.
	Hang on!
	Even then?
	What year are we talking about?
	That was 2005.
	Oh my gosh.
	That's insane.
	Alright, you're going to tell us next what that meant, what that piece of advice meant to you.
	But let's talk about, let's put his books up on the screen.
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	We've got about 20 minutes left.
	We can do it.
	But lastly, the FBI is the last station we want to talk about.
	So what did it mean when somebody said to you, the test to join the Bureau is written by liberals?
	How did that affect your answers?
	Well, he said it was written by liberal academics, to remember that.
	It's not written by SEALs or cops.
	Operators.
	It's written by academics.
	Right.
	Right.
	So my questions, or my answers, had to be formulated in the way that they would think about, what's the proper way of doing this arrest, or at what point do you cut off a surveillance?
	And so what I did was I just, I did not think, All the way, because as a SEAL, we would go all the way.
	I mean, if we had a target, we were going to go all the way to get mission success.
	And that is just not the way the left thinks.
	They do not think, and I think the Biden administration, all these different groups that you see, especially in education, they think differently than we do when they think about mission success.
	So, you know, I just kept that in the back of my mind.
	If there was something that looked like it could be questionable, where the answer could be a little bit more leftist than what I am, I would answer it that way and I passed it.
	So... And then tell us where did you work?
	Was it CTD?
	Was it counter-terrorism?
	Was it crim?
	What did you do?
	I went into Asian organized crime for four years.
	And which is the busiest squad in the New York office.
	We did arrests and street work constantly.
	I was there, went to another squad that that's kind of, I'm not going to go into that one.
	And then we, I did surveillance for a year.
	And and then I went over to counter-terrorism where I ran the special events for all of New York.
	So any major event, Incident, I would do operations orders and threat assessments of these events, and then liaison with the police and whatever private sector groups would be involved with it.
	And then I was the on-scene coordinator whenever we'd have something like the Times Square or the United Nations General Assembly.
	All right, so he has just demonstrated his bona fides for manhood, for masculinity, SEALs, Air Marshals, FBI.
	Let's get down to work.
	The manhood, as we know it, the Western ideal, is under assault.
	It has been under assault for a long time.
	Right now, if you did a threat assessment of the battlefield, Jonathan, what is the center of gravity?
	What is the most dangerous, pernicious source of what we are witnessing?
	Is it the media, social media, the schools, academe?
	Let's talk about the center of gravity before we address how we fix it.
	For you, what's the most important spreader of this assault?
	Well, the left is all those things and it is coordinated and it has a, just like I had that plan that I wrote out for my life, they have a plan that they are putting into effect.
	And this plan has been going on for, I mean, I don't actually know, at least 80 years, and probably way before that.
	And the reality is that they have a structure, they have a rank structure, they have operators on the ground, they have money flowing, and it's organized.
	And I think when you look at that, and then you look at how everything that they work towards, it actually works towards the same thing.
	It doesn't matter if it's Planned Parenthood, or if it's a congressman, or if it's a president, or if it's somebody that lives and is going to college in Austin.
	They all have the same focus and the same structure in how they're getting there.
	Somewhere along the way, they were able to get this playbook and start working this playbook to a point where they went directly to the things that affect humankind the most.
	Shiny things, music, influence, all these different things they incorporated.
	And then they did the long plan.
	They went straight to the young people and started incorporating demasculinity.
	They call themselves feminists, but the last thing they want is for women to be feminists, feminists, or to have any femininity.
	And they brought the human structure into a mono, basically masculizing women and demasculizing men to they brought them to this point where they are completely confused as to who they are.
	And now they've got them.
	Where gender means nothing, where truth means nothing, and where the people they want to confuse are confused.
	We're talking to Jonathan Gillum, author of Sheep No More, follow him at jgillum underscore seal.
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	Give us, and it's so funky that you studied the same thing I studied in college.
	Most people are are shocked when they hear that my first degree was theology and philosophy.
	But I think that's one of the reasons we have this connection.
	Give us your definition, Jonathan, of what it means to be a real man.
	What are the non-negotiable attributes?
	Well, I went from philosophy and religions into psychology and political sciences.
	That was what my majors ended up being.
	And so, having been around the SEAL teams and been a SEAL and seen where a man will look inside his soul and make a decision, on whether or not they're going to go forward with this soul-crushing training.
	I'll tell you, Sebastian, being a man has less to do with how strong you are, and really at that point, how smart you are, how intelligent you are.
	And it has a tremendous amount to do with how willing you are.
	And if you are willing to follow God's direction, You will walk into a room and you will command that room.
	And being a man, all the people that I've met in my life that I can say are truly men, are individuals who will walk into a room and they're there for a purpose.
	They're there for a reason.
	And people will gravitate towards them because they don't play the game of life.
	They live the game, or they live life, right?
	So they're not playing a game.
	It's not make-believe.
	They know who they are.
	They have an incredible conversation with God every day, and they walk with Him.
	And that's why I think when you look in the Bible, and even throughout history, there's just very few people that we look at as sages or disciples, apostles, because these individuals walked with God.
	And I honestly think When you walk with God on a daily basis, when you stop acting like somebody and you start looking for your calling, you will be put into the avenue that you're supposed to be going down.
	And as a man, that means that you are going to have command presence when you walk in somewhere.
	You're going to have a firm understanding of who you are, and you will put yourself in a position that Regardless of whether you're employed as a leader or you're in a home with a wife and kids, you will be, just by following God, you will be a leader.
	And I think that's really what it comes down to.
	words in your mouth but what I'm hearing and it's new to our you know our show here we've had so many guests from Delta Force founders you name it to Victor Davis Hanson and so forth what you're saying is manliness is a function of whether you are prepared to do the will of God that's what I believe wow I love that I love that all right next in your journey to being the man you are today this This is my favorite question.
	Give us an example of what the biggest influences were on your understanding of manhood.
	For some, it's their father.
	For many, for you, you said he wasn't in the picture from very early on.
	For others, it's fictional characters, heroes they read about in books.
	For others, it was their training sergeant.
	Who helped Jonathan Gillum understand what it is to be a man?
	Well, first and foremost, like we just said, it's God.
	God has always been there with me.
	I remember at six years old having conversations with Him while I was picking blackberries in the middle of nowhere.
	But my mom set that foundation.
	She's the one who instilled in me that I am important, that I have the ability to do these things, that I must believe in myself.
	So she set that foundation.
	for me not to be discouraged.
	And when things that were hard came, hard times, difficult issues, that I was to face those things and continue to be the best that I can be with faith in God.
	So that plus along the way, I'm a loner.
	I do most of the things that I do alone, and God knows that, and so He introduced along the way mentors to me that I can go back and look and say, man, this person really changed who I was by their actions.
	And so whether it's my drill instructor, John Crouch from Officer Candidate School, Ron Bellin, who was this giant of a man who was a SEAL when I was in the teams, Dr. Wally Grand, who is just, he was an incredible neurosurgeon.
	All these different individuals came into my life and helped me understand what it means to be the best and not An actor.
	Who I am and understanding who I am and being the best of that.
	So I think along the way, those things plus I will tell you, Sebastian, Strive for the hard times.
	That's why I do ice baths every now and then, because when you're engulfed in the difficult journey of life, that is where you learn.
	And I will be learning until the day I die.
	And I think also that is the sign of a man.
	Not only that you follow God, but that you are learning and realize you're going to die And still be in a position to learn.
	You're not going to know everything when you die.
	You're going to still be in a position as a student when you die.
	He says he's a loner.
	That's another reason I think I like this guy.
	My family thinks my attitude is not just being a loner.
	I just think other human beings are highly overrated.
	No, you know, I've got two good friends and that's enough for me and a lot of people are overrated.
	But yes, this idea of being, not being fake, I think is crucial.
	I think that's what you're talking about.
	All right, Jonathan.
	We've always talked about that.
	You know that's one of my biggest beefs when it comes to media and social media and all this stuff is that people portray something that they're not and that's why I think we did meet and I think that's why we did click is because when I talk to you I don't see somebody Who is fake.
	I mean, you have this very aristocratic, educated voice, but you're a real deal.
	You know, you are the real deal.
	And it's not fake.
	The way you talk is not fake when I see you when you're not on the radio and TV.
	The person that you are and how you think, that's who you are when you're not on radio and TV.
	And I think I'm the same way.
	I'm not fake.
	This is who I am, is who you're going to meet when you meet me.
	And I think that's probably one of the things that definitely And our conversations have helped me throughout my career as well.
	There's nothing fake about you, Jonathan.
	And if you want to have fun with this guy, go to Vegas around SHOT Show and you'll have some fun with him.
	And I love it when I get these trolls who sometimes DM me and put comments and say, and your stupid accent.
	You think I'm actually trying to talk like this?
	I was born in England, dude, okay?
	I'm a naturalized citizen of the U.S.
	That's why I have this mishmash.
	But yeah, this is who I am.
	Take it or leave it.
	And I much prefer to hang out with real Americans at the gun show every month than do anything else.
	All right, we're talking to Jonathan Gillum.
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	Last couple of questions.
	Jonathan, when we're talking to the next generation, so you talked about how you're talking to God as a six-year-old, as you're picking berries.
	What do we as men have to instill?
	If we're writing a little curriculum for the boys of America right now, what do we teach them first?
	Well, they need a foundation in who they are.
	Even at a young age, you need to start understanding that this life is very short.
	I tell people to take the number 84, which is around the average of years that we'll live, and subtract your age from it.
	And that's how long you have to live on average.
	So I try to impart, even on young people, that your life here is going to have an end.
	And in that time span, you need to start learning about who you are and why you are here.
	And I really try to, you know, for very young people, boys and girls, I try to teach them that having a sense of humor, having fun, and getting things in life is not what makes you happy.
	What makes you happy is when you achieve God's will and when you face the difficult things and you accomplish or you get over those.
	And along that way, you know, have your laughs, have your fun, but don't let good times and notoriety become your focus.
	Let growing and walking and learning God be your focus.
	And I think when we teach young kids that, what we end up seeing is that they become disciplined adults who are focused and know who they are.
	I like this idea of focusing.
	It's very simple, but I like this idea of, you know, 84 subtract your age, which only gives me 32 years left.
	That focuses my mind.
	But you're not being morbid about it, right?
	Because you don't strike me as a morbid person.
	You're not focusing on death.
	You're just trying to focus the human being's activity, correct?
	Right, and I'm wanting to focus on the reality that We don't have a lot of time.
	It doesn't matter if you're 10 or if you're 80.
	You don't have a lot of time, and we don't know when that time will end.
	But we do know that we're here for a reason, and that reason incorporates us learning God and developing a finite set of skills Just like you would in boot camp and proving that you can be trained, trusted, and won't quit.
	If you can prove those things to God and learn those finite skills, you will move to the next deployment of life and in the position that you're supposed to be in.
	But if you just spend your life trying to find the perfect girl or have notoriety or friends, Or things.
	You are going to come to the end of your life and you're not going to know who you are or why you are here.
	It's no different than boot camp, Sebastian.
	It's the same exact thing.
	Guys, you've got to get his book, Sheep No More, from our buddy Jonathan Gilliam, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
	Follow him at jgilliam, gilliam underscore seal.
	All right, last question of all, where do you stand in everything we've discussed, your understanding of the assault on masculinity, what you described very effectively of Of bringing, you know, girls to the middle, bringing boys to the middle, so that there's this androgynous, sexless, agenderless confusion.
	Right.
	Are you optimistic or pessimistic about the future?
	You look at the parents rising up at the school board meetings.
	It's cool, but it's not a lot of people.
	What do you think about the future in this war for the truth?
	Well, first of all, I think it started with an apple and it started in the Garden of Eden.
	And what you see is everything that God creates and it revolves around humans and this structure in which we've been talking about where the walk with God and humans being the best they can be.
	And I think the further in time and space that we're going to be, you're going to start to see, because now we have the ability to speak one language, or all people have the ability to speak and travel wherever they want to go, what you're going to see is what was occurring when God tore down the Tower of Babel.
	It was very difficult for Satan and his entities to control massive amounts of people who spoke other languages.
	Now everybody has the ability to communicate, the ability to travel, and so what happens is The focus on getting rid of your gender, your sexuality, and bringing everybody into this one position based on conflict, which is what Marx talked about and what communism uses and Satan uses this, is they create chaos and then they try to, through that chaos,
	Take the cream and get that away and then take these people who can be controlled and that's what they will use.
	And so that's why not having a gender, not identifying yourself by being the best, that's why this is so important because it all comes down to control.
	The only way to stop this, Sebastian?
	is if we do what the Founding Fathers intended us to do, which is stand as a people.
	This nation is the only one that can make that occur, and it's not looking good.
	It's not looking good because we can't get the people to unite the way they should.
	It's not an accident that he's not simply the Prince of Darkness.
	He is also the Prince of Confusion and Chaos.
	We have to come together and stop him.
	Well, this has been amazing, Jonathan.
	I've got a little bit more insight into my buddy.
	Super, super fun.
	Can't wait to see you next time.
	So much that we left off the table.
	Can I say one thing?
	Yeah!
	So the frog, I was going to tell you about the frog.
	He's got this beautiful, velvet, massive frog behind him.
	I'm not sure which SEAL team the frog is a member of, but tell me about it.
	So a good friend of mine, several years ago, her daughter was 18 years old, was killed in a car crash.
	And this was her favorite stuffed toy.
	And she asked me if I would take Kaylee Frog with me wherever I go so that she could see the world.
	So everywhere I go, Kaylee Frog is there.
	She's been on stages with me.
	She's been all over the place.
	And so I figured I'd introduce her to the world now on your show about masculinity.
	What was that young woman's name that we lost?
	Her name was Kaylee.
	All right, we're gonna pray for Kaylee's soul.
	Hey, Kaylee the frog, a very well-traveled frog with a frog man.
	God bless you.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	You've been listening to the Manhood Hour.

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