Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Balloons or UFOs; what's the truth?
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Four people working for you.
One of them remotely.
One of them's on vacation.
The other one took a day off.
The other one called in sick.
And then you realize, oh my gosh!
We didn't know that you weren't supposed to go on vacation today, and there's been a bit of miscommunication.
And then we lost another guy to some kind of bug.
What do you do?
Do you worry about it?
Do you threaten your producer and say, well, let's just play a rerun?
No, you just chill.
You have a very big cigar, which I did this morning at about 11 o'clock, sat in my garden prepping for the show, and I said, it's all in your hands, dear lord, and I think, I think our lord and creator likes talk radio, because not only did Eric, who was on leave, say, I don't need to be on leave, Mission first.
Not only did Alex, who was, I think, saying hello to the big white telephone all morning, decide he's not that sick.
He's going to come into work.
Yes, they did.
As did John, our engineer, say, I'm going to help you as required.
So congratulations to all of you who are committed.
Look, look at him.
Look at Alex.
He's so sick.
He's hiding behind the monitor.
Well done, guys.
Well done.
And Eric is eating his Big Mac, because he deserves a Big Mac, because you should have been on vacation today.
Welcome, dear friends.
That is a TMI moment.
We don't do too many TMI moments, but we must... Recognition.
Recognition is due to our team here at America First.
Well done.
Mr. G, I think, is going to have to buy lunch and dinner for the rest of the week.
Hopefully, he'll be back tomorrow.
I don't know.
We'll flip a coin, maybe.
He will be.
Alright guys, the balloon fiasco, where are we?
Let's have a little bit of fun first with the woman who is paid to speak for a living, like I am.
But she ain't too good at it.
This is Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House Press Secretary.
Why is the American military shooting something out of the sky over Canada?
Because it's part of NORAD.
The NORAD is part of what you call a coalition.
A consortium.
A pact.
Exactly.
And so that's why we were able to do that.
Again, we didn't do it on our own.
We did it clearly in step with Canada.
Canada?
I know they tried to change the name of Turkey last week to Turkey!
What, do we call France, France now?
Do we call Hungary, Magyarország?
Canada!
Did she just unilaterally change the name of Canada?
No, Canada and NORAD isn't part of a coalition.
This isn't the Iraq war.
It's not some pact, you morons.
It is a joint command, okay?
How do these people get jobs?
Anyway, That's the White House Press Secretary on a friendly, friendly TV channel.
Let's actually talk about what happened.
In the last four days, we have had, what?
Multiple UFOs over the United States.
We've had four shot down.
One, this is from Newsmax, full credit due.
This is a graphic of the events that have occurred since February 4th.
Balloon shot down, South Carolina.
February 10th, first object shot down, north of Alaska.
11th, two objects shot down, Yukon and Montana.
What does it mean?
third object shot down over Lake Huron.
Yes, indeed.
Those are the events that have occurred in just the last few days.
Thank you, Eric.
What does it mean?
There's so much stuff going on out there that is just misreporting, bad reporting, conjecture based on nary any evidence, if any evidence of at all.
Let's stop for a second.
What do we know?
We know the first vehicle, or if you want, somebody DM'd me yesterday and said don't say balloon because people think of you know, innocuous party balloons or weather balloons.
They say atmospheric satellite.
That's interesting.
I will say surveillance platform or atmospheric satellite to kind of impart that these are a national security issue and a hazard.
We know that one, a massive one, that isn't a weather balloon, because most weather balloons are of incredibly short duration.
They go up into the atmosphere for a couple of hours, they puncture by themselves, and they come down to earth with a very light cardboard array package underneath them.
It's not a weather balloon.
This thing was 200 feet across.
Solar panels to power it with some kind of surveillance package array underneath the vessel.
That vessel, which is a surveillance platform, is an atmospheric satellite, if you wish, came from Communist China, and it traversed the whole of the country.
Guys, can we kill that sound?
I keep getting a sound in my ear, okay?
Sounds like some kind of alert.
It traversed the whole nation.
It flew over our Minuteman silos.
It flew over military bases that are highly, highly sensitive and part of our national security complex.
Now, that was finally neutralized off the coast of South Carolina.
We don't know what has been recovered, if anything, beyond the material of the balloon itself.
Whether anything else will be discoverable or released by the Pentagon, impossible to tell.
This weekend, three other vessels were shot down.
The strange thing is, I listened live yesterday evening to the press conference held by the Pentagon on those shoot-downs.
Peculiarly, despite this being the most powerful military in the world that is used to doing press conferences, they held it on telephone.
Yes.
They held a press conference on multiple unidentified flying phenomena, objects in the sky, as if it were a big teleconference.
They said that these objects, the last three, were much, much smaller than the first Chinese one, but they don't exactly know what they are.
Do you feel reassured yet?
The New York Times correspondent who was on the call asked the general who was hosting it whether or not they had ruled out extraterrestrials or aliens.
I kid you not, the New York Times correspondent said, were there little green men identified?
Aliens or extraterrestrials?
I guess that's a more reasonable supposition for the New York Times than asking whether or not Hunter Biden's laptop is real.
That's the priorities of the former Grey Lady.
Now, what does it all mean?
We're not going to know exactly why the Biden administration did what they did, and we're probably never going to have them reveal to us why they did it.
But here's one theory.
Here's my theory.
Biden is afraid of China, or in the pocket of China through his son, who remember got a 1.2 billion dollar deal from the National Bank of Communist China when he was vice president.
As a result, he doesn't wish to aggravate China.
He's afraid of them, or he's compromised by them.
Nevertheless, he has been embarrassed.
For four days, the US military refused to do anything about it, despite allegedly the White House saying, get rid of that vessel from our skies.
That embarrassment has likely led to this administration saying, shoot anything that looks like a weather balloon in our skies, despite the fact that they have admitted that they don't know what these things are.
Is this a prelude to war?
You tell me what you think.
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Yeah, I was checking to see where that sound live come from.
You were hearing that in your earpiece, right, Dr. G?
Yeah.
It was like an alarm chime.
Yeah.
The alerts are turned off on the playback PC.
In the past, that's what we've had, so we'll keep an eye on it.
Put them on hold for now, Alex, thanks.
Okay, title for that one.
China balloon, colon, what is Biden doing?
How to punish China for the balloon incursion.
Okay.
What is Biden doing?
And then also for Chang.
How to punish China for the balloon incursion.
All right.
It's got a while here before Solomon comes on.
I'm gonna use Cut 8 here.
Cut 8.
Oh boy, yep.
Alright, and same thing as before, we'll just kind of fade out after like 15 seconds.
Alright.
Would've been cooler if they used the Top Gun music.
Sorry?
It would've been cooler if they used Danger Zone instead of Mission Impossible.
If they used what?
Danger Zone.
Top Gun.
Oh, yeah.
Can you come in with Cut 3?
I want to be clear.
The pre-audits that you have at the end are very different from what we were talking about last week.
We knew exactly what that was.
A PRC delay of a point.
And we have B-roll for full screen when that happens.
Good.
Can I stand here and take a couple questions? - Mr. Secretary.
- Do you have an update? - Oh, sorry.
And why continue to call them objects?
Are these not balloons?
- Well, we're gonna put forward what they are once we have elected to bring, but to ask your question, we've not recovered any rate from the three most recent years. - So as long as policy is considered, is it American policy to not we've not recovered any rate from the three most recent years. - So Our policy hasn't changed.
on identified objects on site.
And is there been any delegation of authority from President Biden to yourself on making decisions on when to take down these police?
Our policy hasn't changed.
We will evaluate each and every event on its own merits and we'll make decisions based upon the recommendations of North Carolina Commander, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and they'll make recommendations to me.
I'll evaluate the main work.
Coming in with cut three.
Again, please create events.
Thank you.
I'm going to go.
Lamar, I want to get your reaction to some breaking news out of Beijing just in the last hour or two.
The foreign ministry there has accused the United States since the start of 2022 of flying balloons 10 different times over Chinese airspace.
Can you respond to that accusation?
Not true.
Not doing it.
Just absolutely not true.
Not true, or you're not answering the question.
I'm confused, Admiral Kirby, which is usually the case of anyone listening to you.
You are a disgrace to the naval uniform you once wore.
Another confusing statement from the Biden administration.
Literally moments ago, Lloyd Austin, that disgrace to the U.S.
Army, who is now the Secretary of Defense, former, what was it, Raytheon?
Raytheon?
Mucky Muck?
How deep is the deep state?
He has just landed in Brussels for a NATO summit, and he said the following.
He got off the plane, held an impromptu press conference moments ago, and he said the following.
We don't know what the three vessels are we shot down.
We will know more when we recover the debris.
A reporter said, does that mean you haven't recovered the debris?
Yes, we have yet to decover the debris.
So, just internalize this for one second.
We're going to take your calls.
There's only one line left.
Let's start fielding these calls.
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That's 833-334-6752.
Just listen to what he said.
We don't know what the three other vessels are.
They just shot them down.
Now, it's pretty clear that you're supposed to have rules of engagement.
What if it's a civilian aircraft?
They don't know what they are, and they've yet to collect the debris.
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Let's go to your calls, Judy in Brooklyn.
Happy Monday, Judy.
Hi, how are you, Dr. Gorka?
So nice to hear you.
Let's see now.
I'm calling for two things.
Number one, um, or maybe one, I don't know.
I'm very worried about President Trump.
I'll tell you why.
There's no one, I'm not, I'm one of the biggest fans of President Trump from day one.
But I am concerned about his attacks against Ron DeSantis because I'm afraid that this time around it's just not, it's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna boomerang back.
Why?
It worked against 16 people in 2016.
Why would it not work this time?
Because I'm listening to a lot of people and whatever and people just don't like it.
They don't like the fact that he's calling him sanctimonious.
They don't like the fact that he's you know talking about grooming that he did in some school whatever and it's like it's just it's it's they're not they're not it's not going over very well and it's just not looking right for him.
I think he needs to He's changed a little bit where he seems to be nicer and he should just work on... But that's not why we elected him the first time.
Why would we want him to be nice?
If we wanted nice, we'd vote for Mitt Romney.
I don't get what's changed.
No, no, no.
I like him to be not nice to, let's say, Putin or Xi in China, whatever.
Hang on a second, Judy.
We have to get this out there.
We have a primary process.
This isn't about being nice to the people who are going to run against you.
Remember what he did during the primary process.
Well, whether it was Crooked Hillary, Lonely Jeb, Little Marco, Lying Ted Cruz, this is what he does.
Now, what's changed?
Has politics suddenly gotten nicer in the last six years?
I would say the opposite.
So, why are people saying, now we need him to be nice?
I'm confused.
Who's saying that and based on what?
Okay, so, you know what?
I'll be one of them and saying the truth.
Tell me what's changed.
I'll tell you what.
I'll tell you why.
Nothing's changed.
It's just that they have made him into be a monster, a horrible man, which is the opposite of the truth.
He's the nicest guy and the greatest heart.
And he's, he's got, he's proven himself for four years as the best policies that behind him.
He's got so much going for him more than anybody else.
But I have to tell you, Ron DeSantis is loved.
As much as Trump is loved, Ron DeSantis is loved right now, and I think I'm afraid, and I'm doing it for his own good, I'm afraid it's going to backfire on him in a bad way because a lot of people love Ron DeSantis for what he has been doing in Florida, versus all those 16 people in 2000.
No one knew what they were doing, whatever.
They didn't prove themselves as much as Ron has done in the four years as governor.
And of course I want Donald Trump to be our president.
We should be so lucky to have him as a president.
I'm just saying it, and knowing that there are people, I happen to know people who actually went out and did an anti-Trump vote.
Only that, for that alone.
So I really want him to come across truly as the nice guy that he is.
No, well I guarantee you right now, Judy, Judy, it's not happening.
A 75 year old guy isn't going to pretend to be Mitt Romney.
It's not happening.
So you better prepare for disappointment.
Well, Mitt Romney, oh my God, don't even talk about Mitt Romney.
But you're asking him to do something that's not him.
He's not going to come out and say, you know, I'm a super nice guy.
How are you?
You know, let's have a cup of tea together.
It's not who he is.
He's the tough guy from Queens, Judy.
Okay.
Oh, come on.
He could be, you're a tough guy too, but are you, are you going to be mean to everyone?
Absolutely not.
Pretty much.
Pretty much.
Yes.
I, I, most people, most human beings are overrated.
Ask my wife.
That is how I behave in general.
One second, one second.
I believe that Donald Trump is the nicest guy ever.
That's not the point!
We don't want a nice guy in office.
We want a killer.
We want a guy who's going to stand up to Putin, to Beijing and all of these chumps, as well as to professional politicians.
Why was he using that language back in 15?
Because everybody arrayed against him was a chump.
We're going to have to agree to disagree.
But we've got time!
We've got time.
We've got almost two years.
God bless you, Judy.
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But the moment he does it to Santis, it's suddenly a bad thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't get it.
And then suddenly we want a Trump who's not Trump.
I don't get it.
I just don't get it.
There's Trumpism without Trump, and then there's Trump without Trump, apparently.
That's good.
Trump without Trump.
That's good.
All right, I'll field these next couple here.
Can you kill the mics?
Thanks.
Thank you.
What do we have?
Consumer Research.
Consumer Research.
Then I'll tee up.
Tee up.
Five.
Five.
The Taiwan kind.
Yep.
45 seconds. 45 seconds.
45 seconds.
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Mike, happy Monday!
Hey, Dr. Gurka.
You better call the Pentagon.
I got my tinfoil hat on.
They're building a Trojan horse.
Rockets can be attached to the inside skeleton and the rockets won't be heavy because you won't need all the fuel.
Call the Pentagon, Doctor.
They're not going to listen to me.
Rockets to attack what, Mike?
Well, they're building a Trojan horse.
I understand what a Trojan horse is, but the rockets are going to be used to attack what, Mike?
I have no clue.
Alright, well that's not very helpful.
Thank you, Mike.
That tinfoil hat probably is a little bit too tight on your head.
Let's go to Joe, Columbus, Ohio, line one.
Welcome, Joe.
Hi, Sebastian.
Wow, are you at NASCAR?
What was that?
No, no, no, no.
Well, that was pretty loud.
What happened?
Tell me what's going on.
I'm curious.
You can't just call in and sound like you're on a NASCAR track.
I don't know what that was.
Okay.
What's your question?
What's your comment?
Here's kind of a difficult question, and if you need some time to think it over to answer me, it's okay.
Here's the problem.
I love you.
I love your program.
I listen to it every day.
I'm totally on your side.
I'm totally a believer.
My wife's a conservative, but she also thinks that Trump is a bit of a risk, which a lot of conservatives are being influenced that way.
So that's part of it.
But my question is, and of course everything they've accused him of has come true of them, not him.
But here's the problem.
They have deceived so many people.
And I believe that DeSantis might be good for the future.
I wish they could work together, but I do think that Trump is the antidote for now, and we need him desperately.
Here's the problem.
I know you're working against it with your program, but how do we influence, number one, the other conservatives that are departing, number two, the middle-of-the-road people who will vote Republican if they feel like it's a good choice, I know we'll never get the ultra-liberals, so they're a waste of time.
Let me start by saying the following, Joe.
Great questions, but the first thing is I reject the premise.
You're asking me how do we convince the people who are leaving.
Who's leaving?
I mean, look at the results of the 2020 election.
Forget, you know, the 81 million quote-unquote that Biden got.
Look at the results for President Trump.
He got 11 million more than he did.
The prior election.
So hang on a second.
He got more than he did the first time around after four years of being called a neo-Nazi, white supremacist, racist, what have you.
Who's leaving him?
I don't buy a joke.
Give me the proof.
Okay.
I mean, you're making me happy because I'm normally depressed thinking that most Americans have been so dumbed down, even some conservatives, that they're believing the lies.
Well, but look at the numbers!
Look at the numbers!
I mean, trust the average American who isn't in the big cities to actually have common sense.
For me, it's one of the key characteristics of this nation that we are, wherever we came from, whatever our skin color, we are defined by a certain amount of common sense.
And that tells you how you get a double digit, more than 10 million people voted more for President Trump, despite two impeachments, Russia collusion, Mueller probe, you name it, more than 10 million.
Why are they leaving?
I don't buy it.
I just don't buy it.
Now, the last question, we'll talk about that momentarily, is how you convince those who are the independents, because there's a shocking number, upward of 25%, that decide in the last 10 days of an election who they're going to vote for.
Great question.
We'll cover that momentarily.
Thank you, Joe.
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Yep.
Hey, it's John Solomon.
Hey, John.
How we doing?
I'm well, Seb.
Good to be with you.
How are you?
Good, good.
Can we discuss the article you sent me that I tweeted out about the FBI and the people being monitored because they rode on a bus?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And I don't know if you saw the latest one I did today, but... No.
The FBI keeps getting burned by going back time and time again and starting investigations with liberal sources.
The most recent one is the Catholic memo last week.
They did an intelligence memo saying Catholics who go to Latin Mass are extremists.
Oh, yes!
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
You know where that came from?
The Southern Poverty Law Center.
All right, let's talk about that.
All right, is that on your feed?
It is.
It is.
It was in the email this morning.
That came from the Richmond Field Office, right?
It did.
And there's a great little thing in the footnote.
They don't call women who are pregnant mothers.
They call them pregnant people.
Wow.
Can we get some more headroom from your end, John?
Yeah.
The only way I can do that right now, I think, is by moving backwards a little bit.
That's good.
90 seconds.
Eric, I need a poll.
Do you trust the Pentagon's explanation for the UFO shootdowns?
Yes or no?
Yep.
All righty.
I'll add that shortly.
Can't wait to see how that one ends up.
I'm going 64.
I did it now, Nephi.
Hold it, but we got to figure out it was way too tight.
You're good now if you want to just stay there.
We're going to stay right here.
I won't move, I promise.
In before the aliens are just finally trying to make contact with us, but we keep shooting them down.
There you go.
That's it.
It was actually the balloons were delivering cash to Hunter Biden.
Oh, there we go.
There we go.
30 seconds.
What do we got here?
My pillow.
OK, my pillow.
It might sound a lot.
I'll zoom out.
It's 30 seconds.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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He's got a theory as to what was on that balloon.
Was it pallets of cash for Hunter?
Let's see if he's got the inside scoop.
He is the editor-in-chief, the founder of that amazing organization, justthenews.com, a good friend of America First.
John Solomon, happy Monday.
Happy Monday, Seb.
Great to be with you.
Yeah, maybe they were just, maybe the Chinese were just, found a new way to deliver payments to Hunter Biden.
I don't know.
Can you confirm or deny?
I don't think we can at this point.
I don't think we can.
You've got some amazing stories.
I've just posted a couple on my Twitter feed.
It's justthenews.com.
It's Jay Solomon Reports.
The evening show is justthenews.noise every evening, 6pm.
But before we get to that, can I ask you kind of a technical journalism question?
Sure.
So I was on Twitter Spaces last night.
This is my new addiction.
And, of course, it was about the balloons and the UFOs.
And it was like a four, five hour space.
I was on there for about two hours.
And they broke it, unusually, because it's kind of like a new news platform, I guess.
And the host broke it to go live to the Pentagon presser on the three additional shoot downs in the last couple of days.
And the weird thing was, John, this is the Pentagon, OK?
This is like an organization that's used to doing presses.
And instead of going to the Pentagon, having a guy in front of the podium, having a, you know, a video feed, the Pentagon did it on a teleconference, as if this was like the defense ministry of Vanuatu or the Maldives.
Isn't that a bit weird?
It is.
Listen, the whole reaction of the last eight days is weird, right?
There's a lot of things we simply do not understand about how they've dealt with this.
First off, why let the China balloon transverse the entire country, but then shoot down the other three before they got started?
That's a question we don't know.
Are all of these from China?
Are some of them from Russia?
That's a question I'm hearing a lot of people asking today.
I don't think we know the answers yet.
And the fact that we're eight days into this, and not only we in the American public don't know, key members of Congress don't know, suggests that the Biden administration has put a stranglehold on the truth again.
We've seen this many times in the past.
They did it with the classified records at their home.
They did it with some of the Hunter Biden stuff.
But the stranglehold on information is what has left all of us wondering and guessing about something we really should know the facts about.
Yeah.
Alright, let's talk about the stories that you've been breaking recently at JustinNews.com.
I think you probably know I'm a mackerel snapper.
I'm a cradle Catholic.
I have been known sometimes to take the bus.
Not frequently.
I love my Mustang.
But if I were a Catholic taking the bus, I would be on some super-duper threat list for the FBI.
Is that true?
Well, it was certainly heading in that direction before the public limelight actually forced the FBI to withdraw this memo.
There was a memo written by the Richmond office.
It was leaked by FBI whistleblowers, and it suggested anybody in the Catholic Church who subscribed to the Latin Rites mask, the pre-Vatican tomb form of mask, should be considered a white supremacist extremist threat, and that the FBI should start embedding agents and assets The FBI said pregnant person.
looking for these sort of threats.
And it went into great detail about the faith, the theories of Catholic theology.
Very disturbing to see the FBI insinuate itself into religious philosophy.
And it even had such woke terms as when they were talking about abortion and a woman who was pregnant, they didn't call her a mother.
They called her a pregnant person.
And the FBI said pregnant person.
They did.
That's the FBI's language.
So what does that tell you?
It tells you two things.
First off, where did all this information come from?
It originated with the Southern Poverty Law Center, another liberal group.
Let's go through some of the famous bad moments in FBI history recently.
Russia collusion came from a Democratic campaign.
Parents are domestic terrorists just by showing up at school board meetings.
That came from a left-leaning school board association.
Catholics are an extremist threat, at least those who go to Latin Mass.
Well, that came from the Southern Poverty Law Center, another liberal group.
So you've got multiple instances where the FBI is soliciting investigative leads from liberal ideological political groups.
And then, why are they so well received at the FBI?
It looks like some of the FBI have woke people that are allowing their ideology to get in the way of their judgment about what should be a criminal or intelligence product.
Now, I took that intelligence bulletin right after the FBI withdrew it.
Send it to the former intelligence chief of the FBI.
He said it was a shameless product.
It was one of the worst products.
It wasn't anything but fantasy.
That's how bad this product was.
But those are the sort of things that are being produced by the FBI every day.
The alliance between left-leaning groups and the FBI is creating not only a black eye for the FBI, it's eroding everyday Americans' trust in the top law enforcement agency in this country.
Now give me a sanity check because I don't want to be, you know, Pollyanna-ish here, but it seems as if the FBI whistleblower numbers and reports are getting to a certain critical mass on Capitol Hill.
Is that just me, John?
No, you're right.
It's the two dozen that we know of.
And I think there's going to be other agencies about to come forward.
I would be keeping an eye on some of the other federal law enforcement agencies.
I'm hearing of other whistleblowers coming out.
Last week, we had a new whistleblower come on our TV show, George Hill, a veteran intelligence analyst.
And he told the story of how the FBI wanted to open 140 individual domestic terrorism cases.
By the way, padding the numbers, something we know is the allegation out there.
Just because 140 people got on some buses up in Massachusetts and came to the Trump rally.
No evidence they stormed the Capitol.
No evidence they brought weaponry.
No evidence they committed a singular crime.
Their crime was getting on a bus to come to Washington D.C.
in the 48 hours around the January 6th thing.
In fact, they didn't even know if they had gone to the January 6th rally.
But just being on the bus was a predicate cause for opening up.
Here's the good news.
Some brave people in the Boston FBI office resisted Washington's pressure and they refused to do that.
But without that whistleblower, George Hill, we might not have known just how insane the FBI's predilections have become in terms of opening up investigations without evidence of a crime.
No surprise that we've got veterans of the FBI, some of them serving more than 20 years, saying that organization has to be dismantled.
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Welcome.
Hello, Dr. Gerken.
Good to talk to you.
Likewise.
What's your question?
What's your comment?
Well, my comment is that I'm a hot air balloon pilot, and I'm familiar with the helium balloons, which would be, was what you would use to keep that high flight at 20,000 feet in the cold.
You know, you could have, when the gas go around the world and those things, they venom, you have to, you could have vented that balloon down That's not correct.
That's not correct.
So there's a report of a similar vessel above Canada that was punctured 50 times by small arms fire.
These vessels have multiple layers.
So it's very different from a gas-powered helium balloon.
These balloons are different technology.
But many people have thought that one puncture would bring it down.
That's not the case with these balloons.
Well, I don't know how many compartments it had in it, but once again, anything would have been better than, you know, than blasting it out.
At some point, it would have had to begin to descend.
But the way it went down, my first question, especially the one that went over us, You know, when you hit it that hard, there's nothing left to... Right, right, right.
The issue, the explanation given by the Pentagon is they didn't use guns, they didn't use cannons on the aircraft because it was dangerous to the pilots.
They would have had to get too close to the vessel to use regular projectiles.
That's why they used a missile instead.
But whether that's true, we don't know because we can't trust these people.
Let's go to Antoinette.
It must be Thursday or Monday.
I'm confused.
Line one.
I'm not confused, Gorka.
It's Monday.
I understand where Judy's coming from, but I'll tell you what.
I need an alpha male.
I'm sick of these beta males.
I need Trump because he is an alpha male.
I hate beta males, and unfortunately, Dr. Gorka, Feminism has screwed up so many men, especially women, making their men into beta males?
What the hell is that crap?
Are you disappointed in our friend Judy?
I am!
Judy!
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Not on America First.
I love you, Antoinette.
Yes.
We'll have to convince Judy.
We're just going to have to work harder on her.
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Mike's up.
They're allowed to be wrong every now and again.
So do we give Judy another chance?
Oh, totally!
I mean, it's... It wouldn't be America First calling a session after that.
But I'm shocked!
I mean, she says she's the number one fan.
Yeah, I... It's the conditioning, man.
Yes!
So many people have just been conditioned.
Bloody conditioning.
Yeah.
Bloody conditioning.
That's so bad.
That's a woman who deserves her own show.
Lisa, um... What's her name?
Lisa Booth?
Oh, uh, Booth?
She has a podcast, doesn't she?
Yeah, but she deserves to have a TV show, a radio show.
This hour of America First starts right now on Salem News Channel.
Salem News Channel Democrats want to have special rules and regulations limiting the Supreme Court.
That's not how it works, my friends!
We have separation of powers in this nation.
What is it a sign of?
Are they desperate?
Are they losing control?
Are they afraid that we will see through their many machinations?
We'll discuss that and also we'll have Kurt Schlichter analyze for us...
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And we don't mean just balloons.
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But then you look at, when you talk about reshaping truth in the media ecosystem, and you see Elon Musk and Rupert Murdoch sitting there together, that gets people to wonder.
And for some, it is confirmation that, see, that's why he shouldn't have done the interview with Fox.
It's all, they're all in collusion out to get Joe Biden and liberals and the administration.
Oh, poor Don Lemon.
Literally, there was some sporting event at the weekend.
I'm not sure what it was, but Elon Musk was seen there sitting next to Rupert Murdoch.
That's not allowed in Don Lemon's America!
You can't sit down to a conservative!
Because they should be in camps, shouldn't they?
Let's just share something else before we get back to balloons and guests and the insanity of the left here in America.
This is a video a friend of mine posted of a certain parliament in a certain country in the Middle East.
Well, there seems to be a bit of an insurrection by the Members of Parliament.
This is the Israeli Knesset.
Now, unless you speak Hebrew, you may not be able to work out who's getting violent here, but let's just play the video anyway.
If you're only listening on radio, there's members of the Knesset jumping over the tables, getting very, very agitated.
It looks like, oh my God, there's a woman as well, getting very, very agitated.
If the left saw this, they'd say, insurrection!
Until they realized it's the left wing.
Yes, it's the left wing members of the Knesset of the Israeli Parliament.
In that case, it's what?
It's just politics as usual.
Alright, shall we take some calls?
Everybody wants to sound off here.
We're going to have a fabulous guest next here.
We have a call board that is absolutely full.
Let's walk down the numbers.
Let's start with Line 1.
Brian!
Line 1, happy Monday!
Oh, happy Monday, Doctor.
And I was just going to say a few things real quick.
Why don't people who let their kids be trans just tell their kids to identify as trans instead of getting an operation?
Because the fact you need an operation proves it doesn't work.
And second, the first Chinese spy balloon did such a good job that Eric Swalwell wanted to date it.
Oh dear.
Can I tweet that out, Brian?
All right, I'm going to tweet that out.
I love it.
Look, there's a theory when it comes to these children.
So when it comes to the boys who are being medically transitioned with puberty blockers, hormone therapy, and then surgery, and this is why this amazing organization, Gays Against Groomers, is so courageous, that in many of the cases, these young boys, Brian, would grow up to be homosexual men.
And that the parents get engaged is a function of them wanting to, the phrase that they've come up with is trans away the gay.
They're embarrassed.
They don't want to have a homosexual son.
So they go through this fantasy involving the surgical mutilation of quote unquote, turning them into a girl to make it all seem so normal.
And I think there's something to that, Brian.
I mean, I don't know.
I just think that, you know, because they're always just saying if you identify as something you can be that.
And I'm thinking, if that were true, then you wouldn't have to even get an operation.
Well, yeah, exactly.
And especially when they say that being a man or a woman isn't a real thing.
They say it's a social construct.
Well, if it's a social construct, if it's artificial, then why do you need surgery at all?
I mean, this is where the whole argument utterly collapses.
Thank you, Brian.
Let's go to David, line two, Scottsdale, Arizona.
Hey Sebastian, how are you doing?
Good, good, good, good.
Did you have a good weekend, buddy?
I did, I did, thank you.
I did.
It was, yeah, explosive.
Oh, really?
Can you share?
I just went to the range and went through about six, seven hundred rounds of ammo, that's all.
Whoa, that's impressive.
Six hundred rounds in one visit.
What caliber are we talking about?
Nine mil and forty-five.
Wow, I'm impressed.
How's your wrist?
How are your hands today?
Actually, I got a cut on my thumb from feeding and I'm not too happy about it.
Yeah, you know the beta males, they use those mag loaders.
I've never used a mag loader in my life.
But you do end up with sore thumbs after a session like that.
But I'm glad you're keeping up with your range time.
What's your contribution?
What's your question today, David?
Well, it's regarding this whole Trump versus DeSantis thing that's going round.
Now, this is just a theory.
Last week, I listened to, and this is something I never do, Sebastian, I listened to about two days worth of talk radio for like six hours a day.
Not just Salem, but some of the Sirius XM too, and some other, you know, some of your fellow Salem colleagues.
And these calls that are coming in, Everyone wanting DeSantis over Trump and giving a reason.
A lot of them I heard time and time again.
Some of them with different names but the same voices.
And it's just something I picked up on Sebastian and I don't know if it's a marketing campaign or something.
I don't know where it's coming from.
I do not find that hard to believe, and I will, you know, just quote.
What my former colleague and boss in the White House said recently, it was last week on his show on the War Room, Steve Bannon said, this is a distraction.
Stop talking about this, OK?
We've got a thing called primaries.
In the meantime, we've got open borders, 9% inflation, Chinese UFOs in our airspace.
Can we focus on what's important?
And I tend to agree with him, David.
I agree.
I think it's kind of a big distraction.
These calls are going around and again, same voices, some with different names.
I think it's kind of to sway the public.
I think it's to sway people.
Yeah, I think you might be right there and it seems to be working for some people.
Judy!
What happened to you?
We're going to have to work on you.
You say you're my number one fan and you want President Trump to go all soft and rhino-y.
Never happening.
Thank you, David.
I need to go to the range and shoot 600 rounds.
I just qualified again for my DC concealed carry permit, but it wasn't 600 rounds.
That's impressive.
Randy Knoxville, line three.
Hey, Dr. Gorka.
Hey.
Hey, I'm just wrapping up my wife's Valentine's present here.
What?
What?
Early?
You mean you're not going to buy it before you go home on the 14th?
No, I got it already.
You are a very organized man.
You're a very organized man.
Hey, I appreciate it.
It's a Glock 43.
Are you kidding?
No.
You're buying your darling a handgun for Valentine's Day?
Nothing.
What is it?
Love is a warm gun.
I hope she's as impressed as I am right now, Randy.
Well, thank you.
I'm going to teach her the overhand racking technique because, you know, she's a girl, it's pretty tight, but it's got a little slip in the hip pocket holster that goes in there.
I'll just make sure that my beloved stays safe.
I love it.
I love it.
A very popular gun, very popular gun, along with the Springfield Hellfire, the car that I carry, the CM9.
And also the Sig 365, the Glock 43 is one of those little micro-nines.
Very sexy.
But I don't think that's why you called the show today, Randy.
Yes, sir.
I love Judy.
She's your good regular caller.
But, you know, some of these folks, like your last caller, that nice man, was saying, you know, these people calling in, Don, Donald, don't be mean to Rhonda Santos.
I'd like you, because I forget, but you were telling everybody a couple weeks back, Who are the money people behind this potential presidential campaign that DeSantis wants to run?
I'm remembering some kind of big name out there.
Ken Griffin, a guy who was a massive, massive funder for Obama and also McCain.
McCain and Obama.
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
I hope Judy's still listening.
We're not going to give up on her.
Thank you, my friend.
Well done on that Valentine's present.
It's got a mic in California somewhere.
That's a big part of America.
Line 4.
Hey, Dr. DeGorka.
How are you today?
Good, good.
What's your question?
What's your comment?
Well, first off, I've got to tell you that making movies great again has been delicious.
It really has.
Really?
I'm so glad.
We've had so little feedback from our callers.
I love doing that every Monday afternoon.
Today it's going to be a doozy.
It's rocky.
So you enjoy it, Mike?
Absolutely.
I love all the one-liners that come out of these movies, and I know it's impossible to get to them all, but they're just fantastic.
Thank you.
Do you have a request?
Is there a movie you'd love us to review?
Oh, man.
I'd have to think about that and call you back.
What's your question?
What's your comment?
Number one, these pilots in the F-22s are guys, they're the most experienced.
They've got thousands of hours in combat aircraft.
I'm not believing that the descriptions they're giving to the Pentagon are what we're getting.
Why?
What's the discrepancy?
We've only got 30 seconds, but I'm curious.
I just don't know.
I just don't think that what... They won't shoot something they don't identify as either hostile or unnecessary.
Bingo.
Bingo, Mike.
Stay on the line.
I'll talk to you in the break.
You nailed it.
A pilot's not going to shoot something he can't identify.
This is America First.
Hey, what else did you want to say?
I'm sorry, I was up against a hard break.
No problem.
Every report I've seen, every reporter has made it a point to say it was a Sidewinder missile.
Yes.
Used to shoot these things down.
An A8X, right, A8-9, right, right.
The 9X, yeah.
The first balloon, the big one with the solar arrays and the motors and, you know, for guidance and stuff, I can almost understand it having a heat source to lock onto.
But these other ones with no propulsion or no visible means of propulsion propulsion and no visible antennas to admit any kind of radiation.
What are these missiles locking on to?
Right.
So, allegedly, the first one, the warhead was disarmed and the rocket just punctured it with a massive entry and exit.
What were they locking on for the smaller ones?
I have no idea.
It makes no sense to me.
Yeah, it makes me wonder if they're not using some other type of weapon that they're not telling.
Maybe something along the lines of the H.A.R.M.
missile, the old high-speed anti-air?
Yes, yes.
I'm totally confused on that, but it's typical.
We'll ask these questions to our next guest, because he's on deck.
Kurt Schlichter!
Thanks, Mike.
Hey, buddy.
Hey, Dr. Gorka!
Hey, turn the mics off.
off.
I want to ask you a quick question.
Thank you.
We're going to have a lot of fun with balloons.
Do you like balloons, Colonel K?
Oh!
Come ride with me in my beautiful balloon.
Isn't that for a fat rat?
Yeah.
Can you check the audio?
Because I want to use it with Colonel K. Hi.
Thanks, Pat.
And thanks for doing this.
This is for General Van Hurk.
Because you still haven't been able to tell us what these things are that we are shooting out of the sky, that raises the question.
Good.
That's the one I'm going to use.
That's good.
All right.
Superb.
Good, good, good.
Yeah, one more thing.
That clip I sent you, was that useful?
Oh, gosh, I didn't see it.
No, the one I sent you about somebody getting drunk while they're working.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
That was very useful.
Good.
Yes.
I can't believe you actually said that on a live show on YouTube.
It's like, yeah, well, you're going to get deposed.
I mean, right.
Is he frozen?
You still hear us?
Cut.
Dialing back.
Alright.
Well, that was...
Okay, we got you again.
Yeah, I don't know what happened.
Standby.
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We have the audio from the Pentagon press event yesterday.
Strangely, they did it by phone.
No videos, no officers standing at a podium.
Instead, they had journalists on a big teleconference.
And here's the New York Times journalist Asking a question, I guess, for clicks.
Play audio.
Hi.
Thanks, Pat.
And thanks for doing this.
This is for General Van Hurk.
Because you still haven't been able to tell us what these things are that we are shooting out of the sky, that raises the question, have you ruled out aliens or extraterrestrials?
And if so, why?
Because that is what everyone is asking us right now.
Thanks for the question, Helene.
I'll let the intel community and the counterintelligence community figure that out.
I haven't ruled out anything at this point.
We continue to assess every threat or potential threat unknown that approaches North America with an attempt to identify it.
So the New York Times asking General David Van Hurk, who is the commander of both US Northern Command and the North American Aerospace Defense Command, saying he's not ruling out Aliens, or extraterrestrials.
Very rapidly thereafter, within a matter of minutes, the Pentagon issued a statement saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no aliens involved.
I guess that's the first press event General Van Hoek has ever given, or maybe the last one he will ever give.
Let's talk balloons with our buddy who I know has got an opinion.
He's the author of a veritable library of books, both fiction and non-fiction.
He's senior contributor with our buddies at townhall.com.
We call him Colonel K. Kurt Schlichter, welcome back to America First.
Thanks, Dr. Gorka.
Wow, what a, uh, you know, if the aliens, imagine if the aliens did show up and they said, take me to your leader and they took him to Joe Biden.
No, no.
You can choose Joe Biden.
You can choose Justin Trudeau.
I mean, the choices.
Can you imagine the choices?
Yeah, take us to your leader.
I think not.
Come back in another four years.
We'll get back to you.
You need some evolution, Earth people.
So let's talk about the last eight days, because there's something quirky, there's something hinky going on.
So we are supposed to believe, I recounted about 40 minutes ago, 35 minutes ago, the Secretary of Defense lands in Brussels for a NATO summit, gets off the plane, has an impromptu spray, yeah that's what they call it, impromptu presser, and he says the following, he says, We have not identified the three vehicles we shot down, nor have we recovered any debris.
Now, what would happen to you as a commander if you had destroyed something that you hadn't identified, Colonel?
I think you would not be calling me Colonel.
Probably convict.
So I listened yesterday evening to the live press.
It was weird.
It was on phone.
It wasn't even video.
General Van Hood and everybody else.
And they actually said during the live press that they organized, the Pentagon organized, they said they cannot tell us exactly what those aerial phenomena were that they shot down how how do you how do you as a commander tell a raptor pilot just shoot it down i don't know what it is it could be you know a 747 could be somebody's birthday balloon just shoot it down
i i would like to think that the pilots got a visual on and confirmed it wasn't you know a 767 right um because unfortunately uh civilian jetliners have been shot down in the past.
Correct.
So we have rules of engagement.
I mean, the standing rules of engagement is hostile intent.
So it does something, it lights you up with a radar, with target acquisition, or it's intruding on civilian airspace and will be a threat to civilians.
There has to be a reason, does there not, to take down an aerial vehicle?
Well, I think there should be.
And if something's wandering, you know, crazy me, I think if something is wandering across your territory, at a certain point, you're going to want to put a missile in it.
But man, they're shooting a lot of things down.
Is this something new?
Is this happening?
Are these things there all the time?
And why haven't you found any of them yet?
I mean, you shoot one down over the frozen ocean, The snow's white, the wreckage probably isn't.
Have you found it yet?
That would be very interesting.
The whole thing's very weird.
Now, there's one obvious kind of explanation.
Tell me if you think this covers it.
They were massively embarrassed because the first thing that's 200 feet wide, traverses the whole nation, loiters above our Minuteman sites, goes over various military facilities.
They eventually wait four days, shoot it down over the ocean, manage to recover what?
The balloon part of it.
Now they're super embarrassed and now Biden or somebody else says, shoot it all down!
Whatever's in the airspace, shoot it down if we can't identify it.
The trigger happiness of the commanders in the last four days is a result of embarrassment.
Is that a feasible explanation, Colonel?
Well, look, it is feasible.
And the problem is, look, I don't want to be saying that about America's military.
I was part of it for a long time.
But the present military has just demonstrated such poor judgment about everything that I'm reluctant to give them the benefit of the doubt without knowing more.
Now, there may be very, very good reasons for shooting these things down.
Look, I am not a Shrinking Violet nor a pacifist.
And if you cross into my territory, You're probably going to get a sidewinder up your keister.
I don't think anybody has ever called our guest, and our guest host on more than one occasion, a peacenik or somebody who is not prepared to use kinetic force where necessary.
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I just don't buy it.
I mean, maybe I'm, you know, in this woke military, maybe I'm just wrong, but I don't buy it that... Oh, do you have that video from Instagram?
I do have it, yes.
I'm gonna use that with Kurt, he's gonna love it.
Alright, so... I don't buy it that one of our Raptor pilots is just gonna blow something up that he can't identify.
Look, I would expect that he's gonna get a visual on it.
I mean, I... But then the General says, we didn't know, we don't know what they are.
After they've shot him down.
The General!
He's in command!
Yeah, well... He's a General.
Under Biden.
Right.
I mean, look, I bet he has a lot of knowledge about trans awareness.
Pronouns.
Pronouns.
What are their pronouns?
I'm going to tweet that out.
I'm going to quote you and I'm going to say, as per Colonel K, do we know the pronouns of the balloons?
I have a feeling it's weapons free if it's he him.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, they're doing a lot of shooting of missiles lately.
I'm the... For the first time... I mean, what is that?
We had a Cold War for 40... It started what?
Let's say it started in 48 when they took over Berlin.
So we had a Cold War for 41 years and this is the first time NORAD gets to blow something up.
Well, that we know of.
They're a coalition, don't you know?
Yes!
A pact!
A pack of Canadians.
I love how everybody's surprised that the Canadian and American militaries have an integrated air defense area.
Yes.
Shocking.
It's like a shock.
Hang on.
Hang on.
It's Canadia.
Canadia.
Canadia.
Got it.
Canadia.
Like Turkey-a.
Turkey-a and Canadia.
Turkey-a.
I'm just waiting for them to call Hungary Magyarország.
Oh, nice.
Yes.
The dj-a.
The dj-a sound will be very hard for Karine Jean-Pierre to pronounce.
Very hard for me to pronounce.
Don't forget what they did.
Put paprika on stuff.
Ooh, paprika.
My son was so gutted.
He's a big chef.
He was making some food last week and he said, paprika is not even Hungarian.
No, it was brought from America to Hungary in the 18th century and became the national spice.
It's not even, it's not even Hungarian.
That's a very interesting point.
Isn't that fascinating?
It's American.
The spice of goulash is American.
Oh man.
Yeah, that's why me and Arena are very committed to going to visit Hungary.
Have you been?
No, I haven't.
It's one of the relatively few I haven't.
One minute.
Beautiful city.
I'd love to.
Yeah, we had Hungarian troops in Kosovo with us.
Tough little dudes.
Oh, good.
I'm glad to hear it.
Yeah.
Glad to hear it.
Look, if you're going to live in Central Europe, you better be tough or you're going to be dead.
You know, I mean, that's just the way it is.
If it ain't a Mongol coming at you.
Or a Turk for 150... Or a Turk, or a Russian, or a German.
Always something.
30 seconds.
They're still hopping.
Alright, we're gonna play.
I'm gonna do the Israel read, and then we'll do the video from the State Department.
Yep.
Yep.
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Did the DoD identify the correct pronouns of the UFOs before they blew them out of the sky?
Hat tip, Kurt Schlichter.
He is the senior contributor at townhall.com, the author most recently of the Kelly Turnbull, I think it's number six in the series?
Inferno or number seven?
What is it?
Number...
It's number seven.
I'm writing number eight now.
You'll appreciate it.
It takes place in West Africa.
A little bit takes place in West Africa and there is a Ronin gag That you will love.
Oh, I can't wait.
Also, he's the author of the nonfiction, We'll Be Back, The Fall and Rise, The Fall and Rise of America.
Now it's my turn.
He's been entertaining you and me.
Let's entertain Colonel K. This is not a deep fake.
This is real.
This is a video that was just posted by the State Department.
Thank you.
Department of State and to be launching the new American Culinary Corps today.
Food is the ultimate connector.
And culinary diplomacy has the power to be a big bridge across the world.
When we break bread with people, we learn something about each other.
Now, get rid of that.
Get rid of that.
So, Russia has invaded Ukraine.
China is traversing all of our airspace.
Iran is crushing the demonstrators.
Pyongyang is getting fenced again.
But it's okay, Colonel K, because the State Department under Biden has launched, not a joke, as Biden would say, the Culinary Corps.
Look, I'm all for using cheeseburgers to build peace.
Because of course, that's a quintessential American food.
I noticed there were no cheeseburgers there.
Hang on, hang on.
Foie gras sous vide with a little smoke under the glass?
Oh dear.
Goodness.
Now come on, come on, come on.
Is this not emblematic of the Biden administration?
It is.
And the funny thing is, You know, without the State Department getting involved, things like McDonald's and Coca-Cola have been a huge, a huge way that America has spread its culture around the world.
So you don't, but you don't think they're just like a joke.
You don't think stuffed mushrooms are going to bring peace in Ukraine?
I guess I'm just not a fun guy.
But this is real, Kurt!
This is real!
That's a State Department video that I found this weekend.
I just... I'm so embarrassed.
I really, I was hoping it would have this effect.
I hoped it would.
I didn't think it would be this monumental that he's absolutely at a loss for words.
My guest host.
I'm going to have to be careful what videos I play you in the future.
All right, let's get back.
I lost my appetite.
Let's get back to business.
The only question that matters.
Do you think, Coach Lichter, Colonel K, we will ever get A real answer from this Pentagon on what the hell is happening in our airspace?
You know, I think we're gonna get an answer.
And it's probably really boring.
And that's, you know, that's a problem.
It's not gonna be like, well, we found these guys came from Alpha Centauri, they come in peace.
It's not gonna be that.
Look, here's, here's the thing about UFOs.
And I have no knowledge of it.
I was just a ground pounder.
I have no access to any of that info.
I think a lot of the UFOs are American technology out there being tested around American forces.
I think a lot of the things we're seeing now are probably balloons or similar things coming over from China, and I think they've probably been happening a lot, and the military just wasn't paying attention until somebody spotted one and suddenly it's game on!
Of course the first one embarrassed them and now they are trying to pretend to look tough as they have their little Italian cheese vol-au-vens at the culinary corps at the State Department.
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And of course, the chefs that they have aren't even American.
Of course, yeah, of course.
None of the chefs are American.
The person making the announcement is a Brit.
I mean, it's just, it's classic.
Well, the best part is it won't be American-American food because they're ashamed.
No!
You're not going to get a patty melt and fry.
It's not going to be a tomahawk steak, right?
You know that.
No, it's going to be some, you know, some guy turns a, you know, a gelatinous cube of chicken broth You know, topped with whipped cream and a mango.
Hang on, hang on.
Don't forget the foam.
Yeah, the foam.
The thing that pisses my wife off the most.
If you dare bring a dish with foam on it, she's like, nope.
We're out of here.
I don't want foam.
I want meat.
Meat.
And meat.
Meat and two veg.
Although, I'm taking Irina to Italian tomorrow night.
Oh, don't tell Eric.
That's his favorite.
Too late.
I took Storm there the other night when he was in town.
Oh!
Yeah.
How was that?
It was good.
Yeah?
It was good.
We had a bunch of restaurants around here.
They're nice.
Larry and I were out one night a while ago at Inwok's Grinnell.
Oh, of course.
You know, I mean, it's... Must have been a good restaurant.
Oh, it's a really good recipe.
When you come out here, we'll go there.
All right.
When are you getting out here?
When are you coming to Cali?
I've got to come out there in... What month are we?
It's February.
I think in April.
Yeah, got to come out there in April for an event.
I'll give you a heads up.
Give me a night.
Give me a night.
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I will.
I will.
Show you a little around the town.
You going to be at CPAC?
Yes.
Are you coming?
Of course.
I'm speaking.
Good.
We better not try and get into any fights this time.
I'm not making any promises.
Somebody's gotta watch your back.
I love it.
Alright, see you there, buddy.
Adios.
Cheers.
Bye-bye.
So pretentious, too, with all the uber-fancy food that they unveiled.
I know.
That's what I love about Trump.
He would just bring McDonald's to the White House.
McDonald's!
Pizza!
Pizza!
That's the best!
Wait 20 seconds.
Wait 20 seconds.
I know Sebastian well.
Listen to him.
He's with us.
After that video, that is the right music.
Are you impressed, Jeff, that I got Kurt Schlichter to shut up?
He had nothing to say, Eric, right?
That is... I've never seen... Colonel K is a man of a thousand thoughts in an instant and I've never seen his mouth agape.
Stymied!
Utterly, completely stymied.
I'm impressed.
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Happy Monday, Johnny.
Yes, happy Monday, Dr. Gawker.
Thanks for having me on.
Sure.
I have to respond.
You had a great comment about tough guys from Queens.
Yeah.
Are you from Queens, Johnny?
Absolutely.
Definitely.
And in fact, not far from where President Trump grew up, I grew up in Astoria, Queens, and I think there's a misunderstanding about Queens.
Educate us, Johnny.
Yeah.
Well, I think a lot of people in the last hour who were saying they want more of a nice guy.
Hang on, hang on.
We lost you there.
They want a what?
More of a nice guy.
Yes.
In President Trump.
I think what they really mean is someone like Ronald Reagan, who could be a tough guy, but also be a statesman.
And that's the issue, I think, with President Trump to a lot of people.
He only has one speed, one gear, and you know, you could be a really tough guy, but my mom had an old saying, it says, kill him with kindness.
You know, you don't have to Yeah, but here's the big difference, Johnny.
I love Ronald Reagan as much as the next conservative.
I mean, that is my era.
I grew up under Maggie Thatcher and Ronald Reagan.
And here's my problem.
This isn't the 1980s.
Nobody called Ronald Reagan a white supremacist and a Nazi.
If you're saying what we need is a Reagan, you're in a time warp.
This isn't the 1980s.
We are in a situation where the Democrat Party has taken away our borders, is mutilating children in the name of transgenderism, wants to dismantle the Supreme Court, And we think Reagan, the Marquis of Queensbury, kill them with kindness is going to work.
The Democrat Party is a bunch of extremist radicals.
This isn't the 1980s, Johnny.
That's the problem.
I 100% agree with that, Dr. Corker.
I think where I'm coming from is not the 1980s, but, you know, think about President Obama.
He would lie through his teeth.
Everyone thought he was a nice guy.
And the point of the 24 elections is we need to attract a lot of independents, not just the base.
So you gotta be able to modify your behavior.
And, you know, like, a lot of people have brought up Ron DeSantis.
He can smile at people without growling at them and still make his tweet.
So explain to me, Johnny, why 64 million Americans voted for President Trump, the gruff, you know, tweeter-in-chief in 2016, and explain to me why 11 million more people voted for him in 2020.
Yeah, excellent point.
And I got that.
But I don't care whether you get it.
Explain to me how he didn't dial back.
He didn't go milquetoast.
And he gets 10 million more votes.
He did.
And in 2020, people were afraid to vote for President Biden.
And that's why he got so many more.
The issue in 2024 is President Trump has exhausted people with his style.
No, that's a talking point.
I don't buy that.
Prove it to me.
How can you say that you know that?
If 10 million more people voted for him, who's exhausted?
That is a rhino left-wing talking point.
Prove it to me, Johnny.
The proof would be in all the Senate and House seats that we lost.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Come on, come on.
Mitch McConnell taking tens of millions of dollars away from Trump MAGA candidates to give to rhinos like Murkowski and you want to blame President Trump?
I don't want Murkowski, but... If you have people like Romney's niece running the RNC and Mitch McConnell literally sabotaging America First candidates, how is that Trump's mistake?
Okay, enough said.
All right, Johnny, love you, but you've got to stop repeating the RINO establishment Democrat talking points.
The math doesn't follow you.
Ten more million voted for President Trump.
Mitch McConnell siphoning tens of millions away from MAGA candidates.
You've got to analyze what's behind the talking points.
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I totally believe that the callers are probably being paid to, like, give the same talking points to, like, different radio shows.
Not that guy, obviously, but what David was talking about.
Yeah, no, I believe it, but I also think these are just, you know, the talking points are just so, okay, prove it to me.
Who's run away from President Trump?
A big part of that, too, is also Fox News, because we know Fox News is in favor of DeSantis.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is the one sad thing in common, is people are like, oh, Elon Musk, he's based, same as Rupert Murdoch, but remember, they both support DeSantis.
Right.
Ugh.
It's such garbage out of 2022.
I'm so sick of that talking point, especially.
Well, not in the midterms, sorry.
Even in general.
Yeah, no, I mean, we did well with Trump in office.
We won seats in the Senate in 2018, and in 2020, we picked up seats in the House.
We would not have a majority right now, after the 2022 results, if it weren't for what happened in 2020.
Bingo.
When he picked up 13 seats.
Bingo.
I mean, we picked up more seats in 2020 in the House than we did in 2022.
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But we still got lots of people on the line.
Line 2, Sharam, Los Angeles.
Welcome to America First.
What's your comment?
What's your question?
Go ahead.
Yeah, that doesn't work.
That doesn't work.
You can't release an agent at 50,000 feet.
It destroys the agent and it doesn't disperse it.
Yeah, that doesn't work.
That doesn't work.
You can't release an agent at 50,000 feet.
It destroys the agent and it doesn't disperse it.
Next question.
Okay.
And if they can...
And if they get surprised by a huge slow balloon, what makes us confident that dozens of missiles with nuclear warheads, if they're shot towards us, they can defend?
Very good question.
Very good question.
I think that's why China chose a very slow moving vehicle to make a point.
Do you trust this administration?
I don't.
Great, great question.
Let's go to Mike, Detroit, Line 3.
Oh yeah, Dr. Gorka.
We have no idea what kind of technology China has developed, stolen and re-engineered and so on for their own purposes.
And they have this high altitude, huge package, intelligence gathering package.
We have no idea what kind of intelligence they're getting.
gathering or anything else.
And you've got this hypersonic phenomena, EMT phenomena.
And I wondered if you remembered a few years ago, there was a couple of incidents where Russian fighters came head on to US fighters and a pulse knocked out the electronics in the fighters, and there was no explanation for that.
So either this is the longest UFO sighting in history and the first UFO shoot down, you know, a Biden first.
Yes, stay on the line.
Stay on the line.
I'm not familiar with with US aircraft having their systems electronically knocked out.
I need to hear about that.
Let's go to David in Orlando.
Hi, David.
Dr. Gorka, how are you?
Good.
Before I get to my point... No, you've got to get to your point.
We've got 60 seconds.
You've got to get to your point.
Since you brought up 007 James Bond, there was a better British spy, and that was Secret Agent Man, where they said he was giving you a number and taking away your name.
And that morphed into a TV show called The Prisoner.
The Prisoner, yeah.
And how did they keep all the prisoners captive?
Balloons.
They had slow-moving balloons going around the island, and they chased you down, and if you didn't conform, the balloons suffocated you.
Yeah, I know.
I remember Patrick McGoohan, the man who refused to play.
He was the first choice to play James Bond, but he was such a puritan, he said, I'm not going to be kissing strange ladies on screen, and then they came up with the Prisoner TV show.
Still quite a TV show.
Wow, that's a blast from the past.
Thank you, David.
All right, guys.
Get those details from Mike.
He's still on line three.
I need to know about that incident.
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Chris Coles, why did you pick Rocky for this week's review?
Well, I got to say, there are very few films that I watch more than once i watch a film even if it's a classic i watch it once and i'm done with it rocky is one of those yeah i don't i don't like watching films multiple times i have a friend who watched uh last crusade i think she's told me like 43 times or some crazy thing like that that sounds like a great gal yeah she's cool she's She's actually English.
English girl.
Is her favorite movie of all time.
I've never seen any film that many times.
I just don't watch films more than once because I'm a story guy.
I want to hear the story.
I don't necessarily need to live in the world of the film.
If I do want to live in that world, that's awesome.
That to me is a sign of a good film.
So you're not a secret cosplayer?
You don't dress up in cosplay outfits at the weekend?
No, no, no.
No, I live in the real world.
I try to make the real world as amazing and fun as I possibly can.
But Rocky is one of those films that I guess maybe because it came on television so often when I was a kid, you would watch it over and over again.
And not only would you watch it over and over again, you enjoyed watching it over and over again.
I don't know if that was just a product of me growing up in the 80s or what, but I don't know.
It's that classic underdog story that And the music as well, just everything makes you so enthusiastic, it makes you root for Rocky, and it makes you just like love life and love being a guy and wanting to box and all that kind of stuff.
So I have to say, when you chose this, I wasn't ecstatic, okay?
I am an American, I'm a proud American, I love this country, greatest Nation on God's Green Earth.
It is a seminal American movie.
For some people, it is about America.
But for me, and I enjoyed it.
I watched it again last night and I enjoyed it.
But for me, for the longest time, it's too grimy.
It's too, you know, the 15 year olds drinking the malt liquor outside the grocery store on the stoop at night.
It's like I don't need to come home and watch that, you know?
Rocky trying to convince the 14-year-old girl not to become the local prostitute.
That's not my kind of idea of fun.
But by the end of the movie, you know, he'd won me over.
Let's talk about what is this movie to you, because it's been described as various things.
A story of America.
You just said the underdog.
Some of the makers called it a fairy tale or a folk tale.
What best describes Rocky for you, Chris?
Well, it's interesting you point out the grime and the dirtiness and the grittiness of it, because I think that that is a product of the 70s.
I think there was something in the 70s that was trendy about being ugly.
It's kind of a weird thing, but I mean, it was a movie with an actor and a writer that came out just at the right moment in time.
Let me just reiterate what you just said, whether it's the French Connection or Taxi Driver, I mean these filthy depictions of New York or Philly or anywhere, it was really a thing for a few years.
Not just that, but there was a kind of, I mean the concept of like the big hair.
You know, people, right?
I mean, like greasy, dirty people.
That was like a thing in the 70s.
I don't know.
There was a, there's a famous ad for Volkswagen, uh, for the Beetle, for the Volkswagen Beetle that just says ugly on it.
Yeah, it just says ugly.
And then you read it and it's like, our car may not be the best looking car, but it, you know, it's the most reliable.
So you want to buy it.
And there was something, and I realized when I was studying graphic design and thinking about the seventies, that there was a lot about the seventies that was ugly.
Like you had these, these like mustard yellow and pea green, and these colors were very popular.
The Ford Pinto.
Yeah, exactly!
There was something about... it was as if the culture said, you know what?
Forget aesthetics.
Forget beauty.
We're going to embrace the grittiness of life, and that's truth, right?
That's what they thought.
And so that's depicted here in Rocky.
I think it just came out at the right time.
And it doesn't even really look 70s that much, right?
He added this sort of almost 1930s, 40s look to it.
But there's two things that I think Rocky is.
One, it is an underdog story, of course.
It's an underdog story in a million ways.
But it's also a love story.
And it's actually, I would say, even more a love story than it is a sports...
Underdog story, but we think of it as that sports story more because that's, you know, as guys, that's what hits us hardest.
But for Rocky, if you think about it, it starts out with him doing a news interview.
Well, that's the beginning of his of this epic journey where he's going to fight Apollo Creed.
He does this interview and the first thing he does is say, Is say, hey, can I just say hi to my girlfriend, Adrian?
Into the camera!
He's like, oh, Adrian, I'm on TV.
Yeah, into the camera.
Right.
Look, I'm on TV.
And then the last thing he does after he beats, practically beats the champion of the world, he doesn't even listen to the score.
He doesn't listen to the reporters trying to interview him.
He just says, he just starts screaming out Adrian, Adrian.
He wants to see this girl who he's so in love with.
Right.
It's really a love story for Rocky, I think more than anything.
No, I agree.
We'll talk about the relationship there.
We'll talk about Talia Shire and her performance.
Let's talk about the man that made this possible and just how this is the underdog story itself.
He's 28, 29 years old.
He's been in a soft porn movie.
He's played heavies and, you know, mafia, you know, muscle men.
He's had to sell his dog.
He's living out of a car.
He's homeless for a while.
And then he auditions for a role and he says, uh, I also write as well.
And he's got like six scripts in the trunk of his car.
And he pulls out one, which they don't want to make, but they like, which they'll make later.
And he says, But I've got an idea for another movie.
And he goes off.
Four days later, he brings in the handwritten script for Rocky.
And then they start making it.
So let's talk a little bit about Sly.
Yeah, I mean, honestly, you know what's fascinating to me is the guy's clearly an intelligent person, right?
Nobody as dumb as Rocky, the character, could write the script Rocky, right?
So Sylvester Stallone will often say that it's a story about me, right?
Me and Rocky, we're the same guy, eh?
But actually, He depicts himself as dumber than he is, sort of like comedians.
Comedians go on stage and they're like, I don't get it.
What's the deal with this?
Right?
But really, they're very clever.
They're very intelligent people.
Sylvester Stallone is playing dumb.
He's playing, you know, a lot less intelligent than he actually is in this movie.
And I think that's partially a reflection of the fact that he did kind of talk like this, you know, and he did have like a messed up face and like people did make fun of when he's young.
I think people did think he was stupid.
And so he grew up thinking, you know, I'm gonna prove to everybody I'm not stupid, you know, I'm an intelligent guy, I'm gonna do something with myself, right?
And he does, and he makes himself one of the biggest stars in the world from this movie.
And let's just make... I got so many notes here because I'm the geeky side of this.
You are the professional, you are the actor, you are the writer, the content producer.
I just want it to be known for the record amongst many of the things to say about this show.
They were given $950,000 to make it.
$950,000.
And it garnered, abroad and in America, a cool $225 million.
make it $950,000.
And it garnered abroad and in America, a cool $225 million.
Less than a million to make.
That's quite a return.
$225,000,000.
Just the score alone.
Just the music.
They only had $25,000.
For Bill Conti's orchestrated soundtrack, they gave him $25,000.
That's it.
I wonder if he was like a hugely successful musician at the time.
So he was a nobody.
No, he was a composer who said at the time, I was desperate for work.
My wife was paying the bills as a secretary.
I get 25 grand to do this thing.
I give them all the rights to the music.
It becomes this giant thing.
And two years later, two years later, he's invited to conduct the orchestra for the Oscars.
So his life changed a little bit.
We'll talk about Bill Conti and the rest.
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Alright, it is a love story in part.
Let's have a little clip here from the pet shop between Rocky and Adrian.
You know the last turtle food I got here had more moths than it did flies, you know that Adrian?
These moths, they get caught in the turtle's throat right about here in the cough, right?
I gotta smack them on the back of the shell and what do you think they get?
Huh?
And they get what?
- Done? - Cool.
- Show shot.
- Take a show shot.
What do you think? - Now, it's a fun performance.
When I first watched this movie, Chris, I thought, does this woman have problems?
I mean, is this about a person with mental issues?
Here's one of the digs I have at the movie.
I think we have the B-roll.
Later on, once the offer has been made and Rocky is watching himself on TV, Do the press conference about, you know, being the Italian Stallion.
From that moment in the film... I'm not kidding, guys.
Go home and watch it.
Before the film, Rocky is grungy, ugly, oily hair.
She's got the ugly glasses on.
As soon as he becomes the contender, he starts getting handsome, combs his hair.
You never see her glasses again.
For the next 50 minutes, her glasses have disappeared and she starts to look sexy.
It's a little, it's a little bit artificial.
It's a little on the nose, Chris.
No, no, I don't think so.
Because it's, I mean, I don't think it's artificial.
It is on the nose.
It's on the nose.
But, but the, no, I don't think it's artificial.
I'll tell you why.
This is a story, like I said, it's an underdog story, but it's a story of two underdogs, really, right?
I mean, her brother, her own brother is like, you know, what are you dating her for?
She's a loser, you know what I mean?
And it's about these two people, this man and this woman, both losers, but together they actually make a pretty good team.
They actually make a pretty formidable team.
And so together they improve each other.
He's like, look, she's got some gaps.
I got some gaps.
We fill each other's gaps.
I don't know.
It's like what you would expect to hear a dumb guy say, but that sounds profound.
But it is kind of profound.
It really is what they are together.
He makes her better.
She makes him better.
And that's why at the end of the movie, he's not listening to anybody else.
He's just calling for this girl that he's so madly in love with.
Let's talk about her brother, Paulie, who is Rocky's best friend.
This guy who's constantly compensating for having a loser's complex.
Did you know that Paulie, in the original script, was meant to be Adrian's Jewish mother?
Oh no, I didn't know that.
That's fascinating.
She wasn't Italian.
She was Jewish.
And he falls in love with her and she has this overbearing, domineering Jewish mother.
They decide to scrap that.
He had to rewrite it.
And just a few words about the man who plays this.
Just fascinating stuff.
So the individual who played Paulie, the character, He was actually a Marine, and in the Marine Corps, he's called Burt Young theatrically, that was his actor's name, his name is actually Gerald Tommaso De Luis, so he is Italian.
He was in the Marine Corps, he fought 34 boxing matches in the Marine Corps, and won 32 of them.
32!
He's a real boxer!
A real boxer!
We'll talk about who taught Sly and who taught Apollo to box but talk about these performances because these are hard to watch because you know these are not successful individuals but Paulie's performance especially I mean it's it's you know in the meat locker when he loses his temper and smashes up the house this is real drama Chris Yeah, and you know, it's amazing.
Every time we look at one of these films, I talk about how they had this sort of cavalier way of acting back in the day.
This naturalistic way where they'd throw away lines.
They would kind of mumble through their lines sometimes.
They'd talk like real people in the moment you really believe it.
You know, even with like the low quality microphones, they didn't care.
They would just like, you know, they would act as if they would act in real life.
And it's amazing to me that they could get such brilliant performances out of guys like that.
He seems like a regular guy.
I don't know.
In Hollywood today, everything is just so... Today, things seem much more artificial, I feel like, than all the way back then.
This character, though, is a fantastic character.
Because you need a foil.
Why?
Explain.
You need a foil to Sylvester Sloane.
Sylvester Sloane's a loser, but this guy's a real loser.
You know?
And it's like, he's like his pathetic friend who makes him look great, despite the fact that he's kind of a loser himself.
And you can kind of see why he and the girl fall in love.
But also, what's really fascinating is that actually, Pauly's kind of a hero in a way, too.
Despite the fact that he's this greaseball... Explain.
Well, okay, so... Sylvester Stallone's character, Rocky, he can't talk to Adrienne.
He's trying, he asks her out, she won't go out with him.
She's too shy, she's painfully shy.
There's this brutal scene, brutal scene, where he goes into the kitchen, and he... Well, this is even more brutal.
This is actually, you know, showing sort of like... With a baseball bat, but before you... I think you're gonna talk about Thanksgiving night, right?
Yeah, yeah, he... Thanksgiving night, Sylvester Stallone's character, Rocky, wants to go take out this girl, Adrienne, which is weirdly a guy's name, in my mind.
But yeah, okay.
So he goes to take out this girl, Adrienne, who's the sister of his good friend, Polly.
And Polly is like, you know what?
She's never gonna get married.
She's gonna die alone.
I gotta get her to go out with this guy, Rocky.
So he says, he says, you're gonna go out with this guy Rocky tonight.
She goes, it's Thanksgiving.
I can't go out.
I got, I got a turkey in the oven.
So he goes, oh, you got a turkey in the oven, huh?
He takes the turkey out of the oven.
He takes one drumstick off.
He just throws the rest of it into the alley.
He goes, ah, you want the turkey?
Go get the turkey.
It's on the alley.
And she starts crying because she spent so much time working on this.
It seems like such a brutal thing for a brother to do.
And it is.
It's a brutal thing.
But he does it to get her to go out to have a good life.
And it works.
And they get married and they live happily ever after.
So Polly's really kind of a hero in this movie as well.
Interesting.
He is the catalyst that goes without saying.
Absolutely.
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All right, come in with Burgess!
Hey, you got something for me?
Yeah, there was some guy here from Miles Jurgens looking for you.
They need sparring partners for Apollo Creed.
Put me on.
There's a cop.
When was he here?
About an hour ago.
They're probably looking for sparring partners for Creed, you know.
I said that before, you dumb dago!
You know, I've been coming in for six years, and six years you've been sticking it to me.
I want to know how it comes.
You don't want to know.
Yeah, I want to know how it comes.
You want to know?
I want to know!
Okay, I'm going to tell you.
Because you had the talent to become a good fighter.
And instead of that, you became a leg-breaker.
Some cheap, second-rate loan shark.
It's a living?
It's a waste of life!
I just love that.
It's a living.
Just the way that slide drops that in there.
Let's talk about Burgess Meredith.
He wasn't the first choice for Mickey.
They are some far bigger actors who refused to audition.
Their egos were too big.
Burgess Meredith said, I got no problem auditioning.
He becomes Mick or Mickey.
What a superb performance.
Yeah, and it's funny because when I was a kid, I didn't really associate him with the other two characters that I would now associate with Burgess Meredith.
The penguin from Batman, right?
He played the penguin.
That was my childhood.
I mean, him as the penguin was my childhood as reruns.
Yeah, me too.
I would watch, I would watch Batman when I was a little kid.
And, uh, and then there was this, um, episode of the Twilight Zone.
Yes!
That I- Oh, the guy with the glasses!
The guy with the gla- it's called, uh, I think it's called, um...
Time Enough At Last or something like that?
No spoilers, no spoilers.
I won't spoil it.
I believe it is the best episode of The Twilight Zone ever.
That and Bill Shatner.
That and Bill Shatner.
With the Gremlins.
The monster at the wing?
Hang on.
I absolutely love that.
Time Enough At Last, you're right.
Time Enough At Last.
One of the most spectacular episodes of The Twilight Zone, if not the very best.
And I think it was the second ever episode of the show or something around that.
It was an early episode in season one.
And just such a different character.
This is such a different character than the Penguin, which is such a theatrical, almost like musical theater type you know campy character and then the time enough at last character was such a like a nebbish bookworm type and then this guy is such a hardened you know a grizzled old man i mean he really looks like a former boxer yes yes his face looks like it got beat up you know for 20 30 years something like that so and this scene in the apartment i mean just the pathos
i mean because you know that he's This is his, you know, this is Mickey's last chance at something meaningful.
And he sees, oh my gosh, if I could hitch my wagon to Rocky's wagon train now, he's desperate.
And then the pent up six years of frustration from Rocky, the fact that he just took his locker away from him a couple of days ago.
It's one of the best scenes of the movie.
Oh yeah, this is a father-son dynamic here.
When I'm watching this this time, I was thinking about what was in Sylvester Sloan's mind as he's writing this movie.
And I'm thinking, you know, I looked it up when he was married.
He was married like the year before he wrote this movie.
So I'm thinking he's got this idea of what does a young man want in life?
He wants a wife.
He wants a woman who's loyal, who loves him, you know, and so he writes this love story.
He wants some success.
He wants some acclaim.
He wants some respect from the world, right?
So he writes this underdog story.
And, you know, Sylvester Stallone had had some success already.
He'd had some success already as an actor.
And so he probably endured a little bit of this in real life, where he had some people who were probably a bit cruel to him, maybe even enemies coming up to him and going, hey, hey, man, Sylvester, you remember me?
Yeah, I loved you in that thing.
You were great.
You're wonderful.
And he's like, oh, you hated me.
I actually had this when my show blew up, when my YouTube channel first blew up.
There was this guy, he absolutely hated me.
This is back when I, many years ago, I used to do, um, valet parking.
And this guy was such a jerk.
He, I think he, I worked with a bunch of black guys.
I think he liked black culture or something.
He was this, this white kid from the East Coast who was always trying to get in with those guys.
And he didn't like that I was buddies with all of them, you know, and I'm this Republican, you know, he's like, what do you, what do you like this guy for?
You know, kind of thing.
And he always hated me.
And then he saw my channel and he writes me and he's like, Hey man, I'm doing music and all this.
You got to work with me on your show and all this.
And I'm thinking, I don't, I don't, you know, I don't want to work with you.
You know, who are you?
Like, why are you, why are you talking to me now?
Because you see, I got this, you know, all these followers on YouTube or something like that.
And this is, I think, probably what Sylvester Stallone was dealing with, and he writes it into the script.
So I think he was just writing a lot of his real life into this movie.
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You know, if you guys could sing or dance, I wouldn't be doing this, you know?
I'm not saying he's Laurence Olivier.
But it's a compelling performance, and I was thinking as I was watching it, when you see him walking around, just the way he walks is this kind of, I want to be the big man, but I'm not sure I'm the big man.
Just the gait, this kind of slightly crippled character internally, and then just the delivery of the lines, and also the softness,
When he refuses for the mob guy to break the thumb of the person who owes him 200 bucks and then later there's that moment I think with Adrian when he's yeah it's it's Adrian in the apartment and he's got all the photographs of his old fights and he pulls them out of his wallet these you know this this is a guy who's soft inside what do you think as an actor what do you think of Sly's first big performance?
Yeah, no, I think he is, Olivier.
I think he is brilliant.
You know, I think these guys, you know, I think people kind of overlook sometimes.
Performances that are in films that are, you know, too pop-cultury.
Right?
I mean, this film has become so legendary.
It's become iconic.
You know, we don't really think of Rocky as this, you know, absolutely brilliant film that's, you know, Oscar-worthy.
But I think it did win, like, Best Picture.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
I got it here.
1977, nominated for ten.
Ten Oscars.
It walks away with Best Picture.
Best director and best editing.
Three.
Three Oscars.
Yeah, as well as it should have.
It really truly is a masterpiece of cinema.
And what's funny is you can actually hear the film reel rolling because it was like the audio wasn't perfect, right?
Like whoever they hired to do the audio didn't get it quite right.
Some of the scenes, the audio is garbage when he's walking around the gym, when he's walking around the apartment.
You know he's walking off one boom mic to another.
Yeah, yeah, you can hear like the audio is like in the distance.
Yeah, it's very it's a very sort of independent film Like it's very gritty right the way that it shot is very sort of like it's not very professional, right?
You know for you know considering like comparing it to like other Hollywood movies at the time And and you can actually hear the film reel in some scenes going click You know, the film going through the canister.
And yet it's so perfect.
I mean, you know, we talked before about the Back to the Future script and how some professors teach us is like the perfect screenplay.
I would actually say this is an example of an actual perfect screenplay.
I think you're onto something.
I think this is light years ahead of Back to the Future.
Back to the Future is maybe something you can watch again more easily as a popcorn movie, but here, yeah, this is really, and for a guy who, it's his first script, I mean, absolutely stunning.
Not only that, it may have been rough around the edges technically, but it's also historic.
Let's put up a There's a visual of the cameraman that I want to talk about, Garrett Brown.
Garrett Brown invented something for this movie that was crucial to not only the fight scenes, but the training scenes.
Garrett Brown is in the center there, striped jersey, six foot six tall.
He basically invented the steadicam.
When they wanted to follow him up the stairs outside the Museum of Art, when they wanted him in the ring, he said, well, I can't get in there with a dolly track.
I can't have a dolly track around the meat locker when you're swinging in between the slabs of beef.
He actually built out of pieces of, you know, rods of steel and bolts.
He built the first Steadicam.
And I mean, that's stunning for a film that had $900,000.
You change the industry.
This scene is him running sideways, holding the Steadicam he invented, not looking at the stairs as Stallone is running up those 72 stairs.
That was invented on the set, Chris.
That's amazing.
Actually, I didn't know that.
And looking at that photo that you just posted, the harness that he's wearing looks exactly like the modern Steadicam harness.
I mean, it's like they took his design and that just became the Steadicam and it's been the same all these years.
That's crazy.
And what an iconic moment.
What an iconic scene.
Yeah, people don't really think about Rocky as a piece of art anymore.
I think they think of it as a piece of, you know, pop culture, you know, just something that we remember as part of American history, part of the culture.
But we don't think of it as the art that it is, maybe because of the sequels and how they, you know, especially like Rocky V, it started to get a little bit cheesy there, you know, and people started to forget the art.
But this is really art.
This is really art, I think.
All right, let's put, since we just had the The steps.
Let's put up the statue.
The sats.
I didn't realize this until this morning.
I was doing some final research.
The statue they made for, what was it, Rocky IV?
That they put at the top of the stairs in Philly.
I guess the Woka Ristas didn't like it.
It has since been moved from there and it is at the bottom of the stairs.
Did you know that Rocky has been demoted in Philly, Chris?
That's really sad, actually.
That is really sad.
You know what's interesting?
Philadelphia is not the best city in America anymore.
You know what I mean?
For many years, it was this icon of American history.
It was an important, important city.
And now, what do you think about when you think of swarms of kids robbing the CVS or something?
It's kind of a brutal place now.
And yeah, it's kind of woke, it's kind of left, like, it's very left.
I think they had this prosecutor there that wouldn't prosecute crimes, the same thing they have in LA and San Francisco, and it's this, like, George Soros- Funded prosecutors, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if this were any other city, this movie wouldn't be rocky.
I mean, Philly is a character in this movie, right?
Oh, huge.
Yeah, huge.
And like I said, it had that texture of the 70s that was so popular, that sort of gritty texture that worked so well for this.
I mean, it was the right movie at the right time with the right actor, with the right music.
I mean, the music was perfect.
It's a perfect film.
It's a perfect film.
Filmed, by the way.
I just want to get all these facts out, because I did my homework.
Filmed in 28 days.
28 days.
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I was shocked because I was watching the timestamp at the bottom of the screen as I was watching it.
This fight is supposed to be a boxing movie and the fight is like nine minutes long.
It's like a fraction of the whole film.
It's amazing.
I mean they sell it and the prosthetics when they start getting beat up and the blood and the eye.
Swelling and everything is just stunning.
Carl Weathers sells it as well, this former football player.
I'm gonna, before we have our final thoughts, one person I want to give a shout out to.
Do you remember the guy sweeping the gym at the beginning who tells Rocky you've lost your locker?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
The short guy.
He's like, I'm short.
Yeah, the tiny guy who looks like a complete loser.
That's him.
He's Jimmy Gambina.
Jimmy Gambina was actually the professional boxer who taught Carl Weathers and Stallone how to box.
He was the fight coordinator for the movie, who also played the guy cleaning out the gym.
And at the end of the movie, I said, oh my gosh, he's there at the corner.
He's in the corner.
He's in the corner, right?
Giving, you know, Sly some, you know, final advice.
But that guy, Jimmy, is the person, because he, that guy, Jimmy, Carl Weathers said, like every actor, they asked him, can you box?
He said, of course I can box.
He'd never boxed in his life.
He goes one round with Gambini, he's like four foot two, and Weathers is tapped out.
He said, I can't do it.
One round and he's tapped out.
So he had to teach them how to box.
And in a way that's cinematographic, because most boxing films to that point were close-ups on the face, left, right, left, right.
And he says, no, no, let's have some fencing moves.
Let's have some long punches.
And it's not real boxing.
But I don't know.
I'm not a boxer.
I was a judo guy.
They sell it for me.
What about you, Chris?
Oh, they sell it for me as well.
I watched some interview with Joe Rogan.
He's like, I can't watch this movie.
It's too fake.
It's too fake.
And like, fair enough.
If you're like a trained boxer, yeah, you're gonna think that.
But at the end of the day, it's not supposed to depict boxing in the most naturalistic way possible.
It's supposed to tell the story of the boxing match, like what happens.
What's so beautiful is they set it up at the beginning Silvester Stallone's character, Rocky, is fighting this other guy, Spider Rico.
Yes.
And Spider Rico is winning, really.
And then Spider Rico gives him this cheap shot.
He headbutts him.
Yes.
And Rocky, then, Rocky's pissed.
Yeah.
And now, and normally, if you get somebody angry in martial arts, they lose, right?
Right, because they lose control.
They lose control.
But with Rocky, no, he doesn't lose.
He gets pissed.
He gets stronger.
He's like Papa, you know, anger makes him strong, right?
So that's kind of reflected in this as well.
In the later scene as well, in the final fight of the movie, you know, Apollo Creed is beaten on him.
He's almost like letting them hit him.
He's got his gloves down.
He's not really guarding his face.
He's letting himself get hit.
He's letting himself get hit.
Finally, Rocky gets pissed off enough.
He's like, Wham!
One shot knocks him down.
And it's the first time that Apollo Creed has been knocked down in his career, right?
That's the first hit of Stallone.
The whole bar goes crazy.
Everybody watching TV goes crazy.
It's one of these beautiful moments in cinema that you just don't expect.
And I've seen this film many, many times, and I kind of forgot that that was the first hit that Rocky takes, knocks him down.
And you're just like, you know, I'm standing up watching the TV shadowboxing like I'm 12 years old watching this movie, you know, cause I'm alone in the apartment.
So, so I'm like, I'm like, man, this movie, it makes you want to be Rocky.
You know what I mean?
So like, you can't do better than that.
If the movie wants, makes you want to be the character in the movie, the movie's done its job.
That's the job.
That's the metric.
And by the way, that, that moment that you speak of, um, is actually, did I send this?
I think I sent it to Eric.
Yes.
Put up the headline of, um, from, I think it was the BBC.
So yeah, BBC.
Stallone wrote this movie because of this fight.
So there was a old has-been called Chuck Wepner who fought Muhammad Ali.
And we've got a black and white photograph where he decks him, where this guy who's like, you know, Too old, balding, he just decks the greatest in the world with one punch.
And then Rocky says, wow, what a story.
Even if you don't win, and Weppner didn't win the fight, but the fact that you take on the greatest in the world and you go at least the distance is exactly, you know, why this movie was written in the first place.
Okay.
I'm going to put in here, shameless plug for myself, I was eating steak in Washington D.C.
and we were invited to have dinner with somebody you might recognize.
Let's put that photograph up.
It's me and the man!
Me and Slice the Load.
A nice guy, super nice guy.
He talked to, he was just about to make his latest Rambo.
No, he hadn't.
He was just pitching his latest Rambo movie.
And he said, I'm going to make it about the border and about the smuggling and the trafficking.
And I thought, yeah, nice.
He's a little bit soft on the Second Amendment, but nice guy.
I'll have you know, my fists are larger than Slice's fists, as you can see there.
That photograph is not being doctored at all.
All right, last final thoughts.
Chris, Rocky, why is it, even if he doesn't win, why does this have such a place in the heart of all normal Americans?
Well, you know, I keep calling this the ultimate underdog story.
And the reason I keep saying that, it's not because Sylvester Stallone played this character who was like a washed up, local, low-level boxer.
That's really not why.
If you listen to Apollo Creed speak, he's not just the best boxer in the world, he's also highly intelligent.
Rocky, kind of dumb.
He's well-spoken, rocky, he doesn't speak so good, right?
Like, everything, he's professional, he's a clean-cut guy, wears suits, you know?
This guy is rich, he's good-looking, Sylvester Stallone, not the best-looking guy in the world, you know what I mean?
Like, he's going up against this guy that beats him on every level, you know what I mean?
And this is like, this is the forgotten American man, right?
This is the guy that Trump was speaking to, and that Biden forgot about, you know?
You know what I mean?
I like that.
I like that a lot.
I like that a lot.
This is the middle America that is derisively referred to as the flyover states.
Rocky represents the common man who doesn't give up and built America.
And by the way, there is no villain in this movie.
Apollo Creed is not a villain.
No!
Apollo Creed is depicted as an intelligent, respectable person who just underestimates the will and the determination of the underdog, of the regular man.
He forgets that he used to be a regular man back in the old days, right?
And how did he become the champ?
The same way that Rocky nearly becomes the champ in this movie here.
He just underestimates this guy.
Just as many American men are underestimated to this very day.
And so he's not a bad guy.
There is no real villain in this film.
That's so fascinating, because you are told that you always have to have a villain.
You have to have the antagonist or the protagonist, and there isn't.
There really isn't.
I think that the only antagonist is fate, right?
That Rocky is prepared to take on fate and say, no, I'm going to prove you wrong.
I'm going to prove you wrong.
The world, in a way, is the bad guy.
Yes.
Yes, the circumstance.
Circumstance.
Circumstance.
All right, we salute you, Burgess Meredith, everybody involved in this movie who we've lost.
I don't know if we're going to cover the rest of the Rocky movies.
You could do that in your own time, dear viewers, dear friends.
But are you ready for our next choice of filmic extravaganza?
I am excited.
I'm excited to hear it.
It's gotta be.
There can be only one choice.
It's gotta be... First Blood.
Oh, yes!
Alright!
Set in Oregon, where I'm from.
Wow!
Are you ready?
Are you excited?
Oh, I'm excited.
I haven't seen that movie in a long time.
And actually, First Blood, I've only seen once.
I have only seen once.
I can't stand him!
I only watch movies once.
I only watch movies once.
Gosh!
How does he do it?
I don't know how many times I've seen that movie.
Alright guys, next time it's going to be another Sly classic.
Dark, different kind of hero this time.
With an ending, an original ending that we will discuss as well that wasn't the one they actually showed in the theatres.
But it is a classic and again it created a whole franchise, an incredibly successful franchise.
Alright, far too much fun.
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