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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: James O'Keefe out at Project Veritas

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	But we are just starting to learn all of the different features of shadow banning and trying to shape political thought for people in this country.
	I just want an FBI that goes and stops the bad guys from committing crimes and holds them accountable when they do, not an FBI and Department of Justice that's trying to shape the political thought of our fellow Americans.
	We can do that for ourselves.
	We can decide who we want to vote for without the FBI and the DOJ trying to manipulate the digital marketplace of ideas.
	Matt Gaetz calling it out as it is.
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	The FBI has just put in a request for a huge amount of money from you, the US taxpayer, to build a building bigger than the Pentagon.
	The Pentagon, by the way, is the biggest building in the world.
	Or at least it was last time I checked.
	Depends how you measure it.
	People argue the frontage, the internal space, but let's say it's up there.
	The FBI wants you to pay for a new headquarters.
	I guess the Hoover building in downtown DC isn't good enough.
	They want a new headquarters that's bigger than the Pentagon.
	Now the Pentagon has to be the epicenter, the brain trust, the hub for all of our armed forces managing almost a trillion dollars.
	Rounding error, 900 billion dollars.
	Why does the FBI need a headquarters bigger than the headquarters that runs all of our armed forces?
	The Army.
	The Air Force.
	The Marine Corps.
	The Coast Guard.
	All the combatant commands.
	Space Force.
	I'll tell you why.
	Because they are no longer what they were created to be.
	A very small federal police authority that does one thing.
	Investigate a small class of federal crimes.
	Such as bank robbing.
	Such as Crimes involving interstate travel, such as kidnapping.
	After 9-11, the then president, George W. Bush, said something that would change our lives forever.
	Not just for the people being targeted as members of the former Trump administration or the January 6th detainees, but all Americans, as we now know.
	George Bush told the then director of the FBI, one Robert Mueller, you may have heard of him, that your job is no longer to be a police force to investigate crimes that have been committed.
	Your job is now to prevent the next terrorist attack.
	Prevent?
	How do you prevent an attack if you're a police officer?
	Well, you can't.
	Instead, you must become what?
	A member of the intelligence community.
	If you're not aware of this fact, this is unclassified.
	You can read it on any FBI business card.
	The email, the unclassified, non-secure, non-Siponet email address for an FBI employee is the person's name at fbi.gov.ic.
	Yes, FBI.gov.ic.
	Why?
	Because they have become a member of the intelligence community.
	As such, they're not active after a crime has simply occurred, as their criminal division is meant to do.
	Now they are what?
	Surveilling people who make speeches at school board meetings?
	I think not.
	But they are.
	You saw the letter from the now disgraced National Association of School Boards to the Department of Justice, which we now know was coordinated by the White House.
	It was astroturfed.
	That letter was created by the elite, by the Biden administration, to give a cover to those in the Department of Justice to harass you, the American citizen.
	We now know, thanks to brave whistleblowers like Kyle Serafim, an FBI agent who is on leave without pay right now because they're punishing him, that they created a threat tag inside the FBI with the letters EDU.
	A threat tag usually says, OK, this is an organized crime threat.
	This is a terrorist threat.
	This is a foreign intelligence agency.
	They created one called EDU.
	Yeah, short for education.
	Why would you have a threat tag?
	To do with education.
	Because it's used to label you if you are a parent who wants your children to go back to school, who wants your children not to wear masks, who wants your children not to be taught divisive and racist material like critical race theory.
	That's how you will be labeled.
	Yeah, I know.
	We'll delay our first guest to the next segment.
	I want to share right now.
	Chuck Grassley of the Senate apparently has more than a dozen whistleblowers from the FBI.
	And unusually, he went on the record to talk about corruption, not just inside the Hoover building, but also inside the first family of the United States, one of our most senior senators, cut for play cut.
	Other whistleblower disclosures to my office make clear that the FBI has within its possession very significant, impactful, and voluminous evidence with respect to potential criminal conduct by Hunter and James Biden.
	These disclosures also allege that Joe Biden was aware of Hunter Biden's business arrangements and may have been involved in some of them.
	We still aren't sure.
	What's been done with this information?
	Voluminous evidence of criminal activity of not just Hunter Biden, not just Joe Biden's brother, but the president himself.
	That's where we are today.
	Not bungled burglaries in the Watergate building.
	But a whole cartel of crimes.
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	We're going to start things a little bit early.
	Why?
	Well, I was on the range.
	Was that, I can't even remember, Wednesday, Leon?
	Oh, that was Wednesday.
	Wednesday, and the man who is, I think, I think he has gone down in history, Brooks, Leon Spears, do you have like pistol permit number one for DC?
	I do, yes.
	All right, the man who had pistol permit number one for DC, the man who shepherded me through the process so I could carry In DC as well.
	Just got me recertified and we're delighted to have him in the studio today.
	DCconcealedcarry.com is the website.
	You may recognize somebody on that website because he's got a whole galaxy of people who have been his clients and remain so.
	If you want to know about how this city, not state, this city is now a shall issue state.
	Yeah, it's shocking.
	Go to DCconcealedcarry.com.
	Leon, great to have you back in studio.
	Nice to see you, Gorka.
	Now, you not only help people like me and senators and congressmen get certified and people in the district, you're also a real expert on use of force as well.
	Yes.
	And we don't have to get into specifics, but we were chatting at the range after the certification about this latest Nichols case and the five officers who've been suspended and charged.
	My first rule is, but I want your special take as an expert in the field, I apply, as a former DOD guy, I always say, You know, I like the axiom, all initial reports from the battlefield are false, right?
	Always stop, read it, but you've got to check, wait for the next report, get verification.
	What would you say with regards to any of these instances that become national stories?
	We've got to be cautious, right?
	We should be cautious.
	Now the behavior of the five officers and now it's coming out six, seven, eight officers.
	Some of the EMTs were terminated as well.
	Right.
	The actions were On first look, very grotesque.
	And they were.
	But there are allegedly 20 hours of footage that has not been released.
	We don't know the real nooks and cranny of why they actually stopped them in the first place.
	And potential backstories, if they knew each other.
	Because for example, you go to the George Floyd case, and we know that Chauvin and Floyd actually worked together at a nightclub.
	So these are all things that, You should kind of wait to get all the information.
	Yes.
	Now, Chauvin, I mean, he's a convicted murderer and he did things eventually to be wrong.
	But it started off as just a normal police interaction.
	And then it turned out in a very problematic way.
	You said something interesting.
	You said there's a certain point.
	It was like at minute eight or something.
	Yeah.
	Use of force.
	There's a use of force continuum, you know, um, presence, you know, authoritative, um, uniform or stance.
	And then it goes to verbal commands, then personal weapons, which is your hands only.
	Then it goes to soft weapons.
	Okay.
	Um, OC spray.
	Okay.
	Pepper spray.
	Then you go to level five, hard weapons like baton, taser.
	And then you go to deadly weapons with the firearms.
	So as the escalation occurs, officers don't have to go through one, two, three, four, five, six.
	They can go from one to six, you know, depending on the situation.
	But we don't know, back to the Nichols case, why he was, why was he pulled over with footage, with the actual facts of the matter.
	And, um, I believe their counsel is going to, you know, reveal all that information, but again, their actions of, you know, kicking him in the face or once he's been restrained.
	You know, once he's restrained, you know, and that department doesn't, you know, they don't condone that activity from the officers.
	But at the same time, we just don't know all the information.
	What we do know on the footage, certain things just were not called for.
	Yeah, we will find out more as the case progresses.
	We're talking to my buddy Leon Spears.
	He is Mr. Concealed Carry in DC.
	You can go to the website right now dcconcealedcarry.com.
	dcconcealedcarry.com.
	I can verify, I can attest to the quality of the training provided.
	You, I don't know how many people you've trained, hundreds, thousands, whatever the number is.
	Tell us what you think, especially for this city, Where people think, oh no, nobody can carry a gun here if you're a civilian.
	What are the most common misperceptions that people bring to the classroom or to the range to you?
	Number one misperception is that prima facie, that you can have one.
	Um, some people were 10 years into this process.
	Some people today still believe that you cannot have a concealed carry firearm.
	And, um, that is obviously not the truth.
	Um, another one is that you cannot have rifles.
	Okay, you can have rifles and they just need to be DC compliant.
	Okay, and then so AR-15s are allowable in the city.
	They just have to be DC compliant for certain regulations.
	Another misconception is that you have limitation on ammunition.
	There used to be codes, but those are all null and void and been redacted.
	So you can have as much ammunition on yourself as much as possible.
	But the magazine capacity is still an issue?
	Currently, yes.
	Currently.
	Right, 10 rounds guys, 10 rounds.
	Yeah, but things will hopefully be changing.
	Fingers crossed, fingers crossed.
	And then, we've only got like a minute left, but I want to ask you, what is the most important advice you give to somebody who's just been certified, who's just got the permission, the credentials to carry?
	What do you say to that person who's new to this world?
	Practice as much as possible.
	Get enormous training from a licensed professional like myself.
	My formula is, when you first go to the range, go the first month with me, and then the second month go by yourself.
	Don't go with your police friends, don't go with significant others.
	You and the firearm, and do everything that I told you to do.
	Third month, come back to me, and then I'll correct all the boo-boos.
	I should have saved my target.
	He asked me, do you want your target?
	I didn't keep it.
	What did I get?
	What percentage?
	Not too bad.
	Oh, 105%?
	Yeah.
	I think it was 97.
	97% certification.
	He's Leon Spears.
	He's the man who got me to where I am today.
	And, you know, I've been shooting for like 40 years, but I still learned some stuff from this guy.
	He's the founder, the president of DC Concealed Carry.
	Check out the amazing website.
	It's a portal as well.
	Yeah, it's a portal.
	DCConcealedCarry.com.
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	All right, the next guest we have is a person who, well, let's just say she was a champion for a very special company.
	And then I guess she said the wrong thing.
	And she has refused to give up the fight.
	Jennifer Say, welcome to America First.
	Thanks for having me.
	Happy to be here.
	Now, you're the author of a book called Levi's Unbuttoned.
	It's a very catchy title.
	Can you tell us what the backstory is with regards to your former position and what happened to you because you said some things that were factually correct?
	Yeah, I'll do the quick version.
	I was a longtime Levi's employee.
	I started in 1999 as an entry-level marketing assistant and worked my way all the way up the ladder.
	I became the chief marketing officer in 2013.
	And then in 2020, I was promoted to brand president, which put me first in line to be the first female CEO of the company.
	But starting in March 2020, I was outspoken about public school closures and other restrictions on children, closed playgrounds, they were closed in my city, San Francisco, for close to 10 months, the masking of toddlers, and I was repeatedly told over the course of two years I couldn't say those things, and eventually I was told there wasn't a place for me in the company anymore.
	Because of what?
	What was the reason cited, Jennifer?
	Uh, the things I said on social media, the things I had written about, the news shows I'd been on.
	I mean, I essentially...
	push back on Democratic Party policy and that was unacceptable in this very woke company.
	And I should say, I, you know, considered myself, I was a registered Democrat for many, many years.
	I considered myself left of left of center, but these policies harming children just seemed crazy to me.
	They were crazy.
	We know now that children were harmed.
	I was challenging in a very common sense way, citing data, but it was, You know, politically inexpedient to say the least.
	And, you know, it was considered... I couldn't do it.
	I was a reputational risk to the company.
	I mean, they didn't really give me a reason other than to say there's no place for you in the company anymore because of the things you've said.
	Now, I have a take on the last three years, and I'm sure that you've, you know, borne your own burden, but for me, I'm shocked that in a nation that allegedly is founded on the principle of rugged individuality, That we kind of just kowtowed to the people telling us to shut everything down.
	Unless you're, you know, Amazon.
	Unless you're, you know, in with the right people in D.C.
	Everything had to shut down.
	Except, you know, one bar owner in California, one guy in New York says no.
	They get fired into the ground.
	I'm kind of dissatisfied with my fellow American.
	Is that unfair?
	It's completely fair.
	I mean, we were made fun of.
	They were called free dumbs.
	I'm sure you remember.
	I mean, anyone who challenged this idea that, you know, this country is founded on individual liberties, that children have a right to go to school, that small business owners have a right to operate their business so they could feed their family.
	Every policy was in favor of big business, big pharma, big tech.
	And these are policies espoused by the Democratic Party, who say they're against all those things.
	I mean, utter conformity was demanded.
	And if you didn't conform, you were a terrible, horrible person that wanted to murder teachers and children.
	I mean, it was ridiculous from the start.
	None of it made any sense.
	And it was tribal, and it was a litmus test, and anyone who challenged was banished as a heretic.
	Would you have time to come on for a longer interview?
	You often save the third hour of the show for a longer interview.
	Would you be available in the future to do that?
	I would be happy to.
	All right.
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	All right, let's start talking Second Amendment.
	It is Friday and I I met some amazing people recently at SHOT Show.
	One of the companies that I'd always wanted to connect to is Palmetto State.
	And we have on the line the man in charge, the big boss.
	He's the president.
	He is the CEO, Jay Min McComb.
	Welcome to America First.
	Well, thanks for having me.
	I appreciate it.
	And it was great running into you at the SHOT Show.
	So how was your SHOT Show?
	I was actually good.
	I didn't get sick this time.
	Usually you go and you run around like a chicken with the head cut off, have a good time, and then you come back and you're sick for like four days.
	I've heard that before.
	People like, you know, pick something up at the range or at Vegas.
	Maybe it's Vegas.
	I don't know.
	I've never caught anything at Vegas.
	But we met each other at the bar one night.
	It was a delight to meet you.
	And I was just blown away by the range of products you have.
	And especially a line of weapons that I had interviewed the creator of, I don't know, three years ago.
	It kind of disappeared and then it came back and I found out that you are now the people who are going to bring us the STG-44, the historic weapon that was perhaps the first ever assault rifle.
	Your company has such a breadth.
	How did you get to be such a giant?
	Tell us a little bit about Palmetto State.
	Well, first of all, when I was a kid, when I was eight years old, I was given a book for my eighth Christmas.
	It was the Encyclopedia of Modern Small Arms by Ian V. Hogg.
	Oh my gosh!
	A legend!
	Ian V. Hogg is a legend!
	He is.
	And when you open up that book in the center, basically the center full picture is an STG-44.
	So I've been in love with that gun since I was absolutely a kid.
	And we we look at the Second Amendment and, you know, we want to promote freedom, but we also are passionate about the guns themselves and the history that's behind them.
	So when we get into a product like project like the SCG 44, we do a lot of it because of the history that that is around that firearm.
	Well, what you strike me as, and you know, I've been around guns since I could, you know, walk basically because of my dad having escaped from a communist prison and taught me to shoot as soon as I could pick one up, is that too many of these companies are run by businessmen or owned by investment firms that don't care about guns.
	It sounds to me like you and your brother are a little bit different.
	You're actually into guns but also make them.
	Guns are a passion for me, and freedom's a passion for me, and they go together.
	I was a CPA for several years.
	I had done active duty for a while.
	I got out, finished my accounting degree, bachelor's, master's in accounting, started a CPA job, and I did not like it at all.
	Did a couple deployments through reserves and guard, and I just got up one day, quit my job, and started a gun company.
	I'm passionate about it.
	I love it.
	I've shot my entire life.
	And all of the owners, sometimes you hear conversations and people say, J.J.
	Capital is some sort of New York City based investment firm and they're going to screw it up.
	J.J.
	Capital is Jamin, that's me, Julian, who is my friend from college, who's a huge gun nut and served in the military with me, and Ed.
	And we're all three of us are gun nuts.
	We love guns.
	Everything we do every day is to make sure that America has a steady supply of freedom and that there's innovation to keep people excited about the hobby.
	We have dedicated our lives to spreading freedom and the love of firearm.
	I think more companies need to be run by gun nuts and not bean counters and I'm looking forward to the SDG finally being available for testing.
	I was in contact with the original man who developed it years ago.
	I met him and I'm so glad that you've taken it under your wing.
	However, I guess guns aren't enough.
	And you're getting into the ammo business.
	We have some incredible images of a facility that you've built here.
	Tell us a little about your new venture with Palmetto State and what you're going to be doing in America so we're not hostage to foreign ammunition manufacturers.
	Sure.
	Well, this project was born out of the ammo crunch that we've had over the last couple of years.
	We got really concerned when we looked at it.
	There's a limited supply of ammunition that can be manufactured to supply the civilian market, and it's really limited based around the primer capabilities of two large megacorps.
	You have Vista Corporation, which owns the Remington Primer Facility, CCI Primer Facility, and Federal Primer Facility.
	Then you have Olin Corp., which controls Winchester's Primer Facility and the Lake City Primer Facility.
	We were concerned.
	We thought, well, if you're the government and you want to control the civilian supply of ammunition, you could just give two Very large contracts to those big megacorps, and probably 95 to 99 percent of the civilian available ammunition would just dry up.
	Right, because a cartridge without a primer is pretty useless.
	That's right.
	And there's a lot of great ammunition companies in this country with storied pasts, and they're very large, but almost none of them produce their own primers.
	So they depend on these two large megacorps to provide them their primers.
	And so we thought about it.
	We thought, well, It's really concerning because if the government wanted to cut off the civilian ammunition supply, they could just give them two huge contracts and it would limit it.
	So our goal in this, it's an ammo plant, but more importantly, it's one of the largest primer facilities in the country.
	And our goal is to not to just make our own primers for our own ammunition, but be able to offer a steady supply of primers to our partners in the industry so that So that the government or these large megacorps who the megacorps focus is returning profit to shareholders.
	They don't care about the Second Amendment.
	They don't care about the Second Amendment.
	We're sadly out of time.
	Can you come back to talk more about this amazing thing you've created with your team?
	Absolutely.
	I'd love to.
	All right.
	PalmettoStateArmy.com, PalmettoStateArmy.com, and now they're getting into ammo.
	How exciting is that?
	I thank you so much, Jamin.
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	Let's go to Alan in California.
	Alan, happy Friday.
	Alan!
	How are you doing?
	Good.
	How are you Dr. Gorka?
	Good.
	So thanks so much for taking my call.
	I wanted to answer your question about Crazy Joe.
	Yeah.
	He went off the other day in his speech and he wanted to brag about no other leader had changed places with GG Pig.
	Right.
	No one.
	Right.
	Right?
	And everybody was kind of puzzled by that because, you know, so often he doesn't make sense.
	So what's your answer, Alan?
	What's your answer?
	My answer is this.
	He didn't make a mistake at all.
	He was telling the truth.
	He was right on point.
	He did change places.
	He made Gigi Ping the president of the United States and he took over the CCP's dirty work.
	Yeah, I think he would like to.
	I think he would like to.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Let's go to Don, our friend in Los Angeles.
	Dr. G, happy Friday.
	The Rolling Thunder.
	What a voice.
	What a voice.
	Happy Friday, my friend.
	What brings you to our shores?
	Oh, Dr. G, I just had to tell you.
	I know you've probably already seen it.
	But, you know, talking about the Chinese spy balloon and that whole thing.
	Everybody's talking more about the political.
	And Epoch Times had this great article on Wednesday saying that, among other things, that spy balloon would be the perfect vehicle to deliver a surgical EMP strike over, like, our missile silos, all our strategic sites, command and control.
	And it struck me.
	You remember way back when Jiang Zemin said, what we need is an assassin's mace in order to take out the Americans before they even know a fight is on.
	And I said, well, that looks like it.
	You know, Dr. G, this is like Japan writ large before World War II.
	They're getting, Chinese are getting ready for a Pearl Harbor of their own.
	And we need to get ready now, hardening our sights, getting our countermeasures.
	I mean, there's, as what's his name, the cockroach would say, Mr. Biden, this is no joke.
	You know, this is, these guys are ready.
	I mean, the minute the balloon goes up in Taiwan, I don't think they're not going to sit around, you know, reading the Chinese newspaper.
	They're going to they're going to hit us here, disable us here.
	And wouldn't it be great?
	I mean, for them, if they had to be like a neutron bomb, they could depopulate America, but leave everything else intact.
	This is one of the most shocking things about the infrastructure in America.
	You're so right that we are basically, we have zero shielding.
	For civilians, for a power transmission, we have no hardened sites.
	There's a few hardened sites for the military and for intelligence, but when it comes to you and me being able to switch on the light, run the air conditioning, the freezers, or anything else, We are basically utterly vulnerable.
	So the EMP threat is one that we just haven't dealt with adequately.
	And now they can fly with impunity across our skies.
	Thank you, my friend Antoinette.
	Molly, we'll start the second hour with the ladies.
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	I think that any person who's paying attention can see the absolute shift that the Democrat Party has made so far to the left that there's no other way to describe it other than crazy.
	The things that they are pushing, whether it's, you know, outlawing gas stoves or defining genders by the second, everything that they come up with is just moving so far out of the mainstream that there's no other way to describe it.
	You know, I was thankful that I got to follow President Biden because he does help set the bar a little bit.
	You know, I was thankful that I got to follow President Biden because I was thankful that I got to follow President Biden because he did help set the bar a little America First.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
	How do you say that?
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	Let's go to our buddy Antoinette.
	It's not even Thursday!
	Hey Antoinette, how goes it?
	Hi Dr. G. It is a happy Friday and our first thing, Governor Sandra I think you've been colluding with our team here.
	amazing and I just want to thank her from the bottom of my heart she was exquisite as she did her spiel.
	You've been colluding.
	I think you're a colluder.
	I think you've been colluding with our team here.
	I think you know that Eric has a cut of Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
	I I think you've been teeing her up behind my back.
	There's been some collusion between our callers, our loyal callers in our team.
	But thank you, Antoinette, for reminding me.
	We'll play a little cut from Sarah in a moment.
	Let's go to Molly.
	Molly, line five.
	Welcome.
	Hi, Dr. G. I'm calling again.
	And everything that Don said, I wholeheartedly agree with because that was my first thought when we found out about that balloon.
	They were bringing us an EMP.
	But here's my idea for you for a shirt or a mug or something.
	A picture of Biden holding a red balloon with the gold stars on it for China and you can put Biden's slow-mo TikTok underneath it because that's what this is.
	And we are fools if we think That's utter, utter garbage.
	Now they're trying to tell us breaking news that they shot down a balloon over Alaska.
	Well, it's a little bit late after the other one traversed the whole nation and picked up any intelligence it wanted to.
	Let's go to my former White House colleague Sarah Huckabee Sanders who gave the response to the Biden state of disaster and here she's on Fox talking truth.
	Let's play the card.
	I think that any person who's paying attention can see the absolute shift that the Democrat Party has made so far to the left that there's no other way to describe it other than crazy.
	The things that they are pushing, whether it's, you know, outlawing gas stoves or defining genders by the second.
	Everything that they come up with is just moving so far out of the mainstream that there's no other way to describe it.
	You know, I was thankful that I got to follow President Biden because he does help set the bar a little bit low and that made my job a bit easier.
	The other part, he just has a terrible story to tell.
	He has been an absolute failure over the last two years in anybody that is paying attention in this country Seize those failures every single day when they go to the gas pump, when they go to the grocery store.
	They are feeling the breakdown of this presidency.
	The youngest governor in America taking it to the oldest president we have ever had in this nation's history.
	God bless you, Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
	Somebody who was nodding in agreement vehemently in studio, senior fellow at the conservative mothership, the Heritage Foundation.
	We're delighted to have him in studio.
	Mike Gonzalez, you like her speech?
	I thought it was a fantastic speech.
	I thought the content was awesome.
	She made it clear.
	That she's going to follow the Santas into the cultural wars.
	Her cadence was fantastic.
	Delivery.
	She looked young.
	She looked full of meaning.
	I generally, as you know, rebuttals are not.
	No, rebuttals are not the exciting part of the evening.
	It's tough.
	No, it's a person's chalice.
	Right, right.
	But she did an amazing job.
	No, I get chills.
	She did really, really well.
	Right, now you're in studio because you've written an amazing piece for the Daily Mail.
	We'll talk about that in the next segment.
	In the meantime, make sure on Twitter you follow this man at Gundisalvas.
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	Gundisalvas.
	But let's just stay here for a second, and you don't do politics because you're at Heritage, but I have to make an observation.
	You be my sanity check, Mike, will you?
	Because I look at this party, I look at the Democrat Party, and I just see, I see no sensible people.
	I see, you know, the AOC wing, the Bernie Sanders wing, and I don't see people, at least, you know, at least Bill Clinton would reign in the crazies.
	Who's reigning in the crazies?
	This is a party that's out of control, Mike.
	Yeah, you know, in retrospect, Clinton looks moderate.
	Well, he does!
	Balanced budget!
	Balanced budget!
	Yeah, yeah, right.
	And the 96 Welfare Act bill.
	Yeah, I mean, he stole... Which we helped write.
	He stole most of Newt's good ideas and Heritage's ideas, right?
	Right.
	Look, I mean, one could say Henry Cuellar is a moderate guy.
	But he's not a voter.
	He has no influence.
	No, no, exactly.
	They primary him.
	He's not on TV.
	They don't give him the oxygen that they give Omar or AOC or Swalwell.
	They get all the attention, all the media attention.
	And overall, and I must say that I also castigate Republicans, as I did the folks in the Financial Services Committee for making a DEI a priority in every subcommittee. - Say what that is, for those who are not familiar with DEI, what is DEI? - It's diversity, equity, and inclusion.
	And people listening will say, "Well, what's wrong with diversity, equity, and inclusion?" Nothing if it had a proper meaning.
	If it's real.
	Yeah, but if the way the left means it, it means the opposite of those words.
	You know, we just saw an example of inclusion, as the left means it, with Ann Holton, the wife of Senator Kaine, saying that an Indian immigrant could not defend the Constitution and Declaration at the Virginia State Board of Education, and they removed her.
	For those who are not following what's happened in the Commonwealth, so there was a member appointee, appointed by Juncker, by the governor, who is of an ethnic minority.
	She's born in India, an immigrant.
	And then she was just removed.
	She was just removed by the Senate because she had the temerity to defend the Constitution and the Declaration as remarkable documents.
	Right.
	And to say that socialism was not compatible with democracy.
	Anybody who knows anything... First of all, Ann Holton, again, the wife of Senator Kaine, who sits on the Board of Ed, she made a distinction between communism and socialism, which Marx never made!
	Yeah.
	We don't have the cut.
	I heard the cut earlier today.
	Where she actually justifies socialism.
	She has nothing to do with communism.
	Which means she hasn't read Marx.
	Which means you don't understand that socialism is a temporary transition point to communism.
	Which means either she's lying or she doesn't know what she's talking about.
	She thinks she's brilliant.
	She thinks she's really smart, and she's referring to these Nordic countries that are welfare states, just like we're a welfare state, as socialists.
	I gotta get you to react to this.
	Every time I, well not every time, but often when I post something about communism and socialism on Twitter, the British Socialist Party reacts vehemently and uses foul language on Twitter and said... No!
	Oh, no, they do.
	I know you're shocked.
	I know you're horrified.
	And they did it this week.
	They did it yesterday where he said, but socialism has never existed in the world.
	Every single version wasn't socialism.
	And I'm thinking, if you've tried it in 48 countries, you're probably not going to make it work next time.
	But he's actually tweeted, this is the Socialist Party of the UK saying, no, no, no, no socialism ever existed.
	God in his infinite wisdom gave us laboratory experiments, North Korea, South Korea, East Germany, West Germany, the same DNA, the same culture, the same people.
	Every time the capitalist one lives happily, longer, more healthily, with more prosperity, while the other one is enslaved.
	It's weird that in 1989, on November the 9th, the West Germans weren't taking down the wall to go and live in East Germany.
	It's so weird.
	I don't get it.
	I'm confused.
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	Yeah.
	No, I have to catch myself doing that.
	You have to break it down.
	All right, here's your piece, all highlighted.
	I've got the headline as well.
	What?
	BLM book.
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	But that's not the newest one, is it?
	Is that the newest one?
	That's the newest one.
	That's last year's.
	We've got both books, right?
	Yeah.
	You can mention.
	Katie and I are very close to signing the contract.
	Good, good, good.
	You can mention our upcoming book.
	Let me see them now.
	Put them up on screen.
	Here's BLM.
	There you go.
	The Making BLM.
	And then the other one.
	Plot to Change America.
	That's a paperback.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Three minutes.
	Oh, we need to get your boss back on.
	I'm going to text right now.
	He's been a busy bee.
	You're going to text him?
	I'm going to text Rob because Rob makes it happen.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, you should let Mike know.
	It's Heritage Day today.
	We got him and we got his former colleague in the third hour.
	I know, I know.
	We've got David Azrad in the third hour.
	He's a good guy.
	Tell him hi.
	Yeah, he's going to do our manhood hour.
	You still traveling a lot?
	Yeah.
	You know, last year I went to 21 places.
	That's insane.
	The year before that was 30.
	And this year, I went to Arlington this week to speak to a Republican Women's Club.
	Then I'm going to go to Savannah.
	Then I'm going to go to Madrid.
	Then, that's all I have planned for this year.
	But you know they accumulate.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I'm going to go to Austin in a week.
	Austin, Texas for a meet and greet with the legislators.
	What's in Spain?
	In Spain, I'm going to take Dr. Roberts to meet with some political leaders.
	Isn't there an Asnar Institute?
	There is, right?
	There is a think tank that he took away from the party.
	He's now closer to the party again, to the PP.
	I see him every time I'm there.
	I had lunch with him the last time I was there.
	But I'm closer now to Vox.
	Vox is more like you and me.
	Oh, yeah?
	Oh, yeah, much more.
	So the PP, Asthma's PP, has become the Rhino Party.
	Really?
	Yeah, but they're each up there 21% each, right?
	Uh-huh.
	So Vox V-O-X is the one that you would like.
	Okay.
	That's the one.
	I write a monthly column for their think tank.
	Is it more PaleoCon?
	What's that?
	Is it more PaleoCon?
	More PaleoConcerns?
	Vox?
	No, it's like Maloney.
	It's Culture Wars.
	They're fighting the... She's doing great.
	Gender identity.
	They're fighting gender theory.
	They're fighting the Catalans.
	They're fighting for Spain United.
	They're fighting... Was it PP?
	No, go ahead.
	The PPP just wants to manage the economy.
	Right.
	Come in with... No, I'll do the food for the poor here.
	Come in with the audio, please.
	No, no, I'll tee up the audio and you can just play it, Alex.
	Got it.
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	We are back with Senior Fellow at the Heritage Foundation, my buddy Mike Gonzalez.
	He's got an amazing new article in the Daily Mail, but let's put his books up on the screen.
	One of the few people to tell the truth about BLM, his latest work is The Making of a New Marxist Revolution.
	That is a statement of fact.
	And then prior to that, the plot to change America.
	How identity politics is dividing the land of the free.
	Mike, congratulations on the new piece.
	Let's give the apropos for the piece that you wrote.
	It's the... I can't believe they did this, but of course they did.
	There's the article in the Daily Mail.
	It's about the 1619 Project's new TV show.
	Here is a little clip of the show that is blatant, blatant propaganda.
	Here's the trailer.
	Cut nine.
	Somewhere out there, in a little shack, our father was born.
	And so was I. In the middle of the cotton plantation.
	Talk about the state of American democracy right now.
	One of our major parties is no longer fully committed to democracy.
	We can't give up.
	Black women today suffer the highest infant mortality rates in the industrialized world.
	There's a direct link to the challenges that women had giving birth during slavery.
	One thing about Dad, he was patriotic.
	He was a part of that United States Army.
	But hey, you serve your country, don't mean your country gonna serve you.
	So just in that 30 second cut, there's two things that stun me.
	That they say not one of the parties is not committed to democracy.
	That's absolutely factual.
	That is the Democrat Party.
	And then the second thing about all the mothers who are suffering because their children die.
	What about the ones that die in the womb?
	If you're a black child, the most dangerous place to be in America, statistically, Is this a big deal?
	Talk to us about this TV show.
	party.
	So is this a big deal?
	Talk to us about this TV show or is this just something that we can ignore?
	No, I don't think we should ignore it.
	I think that we need to fight fire with fire here.
	I was amazed.
	If media matters, it's going to... Did you hear what he said?
	Fight fire with fire.
	I mean, in the war of ideas.
	No, no, no.
	I just like to have fun with them.
	Listen, look, there is a project out there.
	The 1619 Project is part of a project to Change the way we think about, not just history and America, the way we think about everything.
	They take a cultural Marxist approach to life, which is that we have a hegemonic narrative, we have a conceptual superstructure, which need to be torn down, dismantled, undermined, in order to be replaced with an alternative.
	They never say what the alternative is.
	Sometimes it slips out.
	It's central planning.
	You know, Nikole Hannah-Jones, the architect of the 1619 Project, has praised Cuba for being socialist.
	The architects of the Black Lives Matter movement also came out of a socialist tradition.
	They were Marxists.
	They were trained in Marxist-Leninism.
	So what they tried to do with the 1619 Project is to make you, they must make you think that America is horrid.
	That America is a bad place, is systemically racist, and that America was founded, and this is one of the points that she makes, and she makes constantly, that the colonists decided to fight the mother country, England, because they were afraid that England was going to take away the institution of slavery, which is an absolute lie!
	And I just, the fact that this person admits, quote-unquote, in a speech she gave at the University of Chicago, that my method is guilt.
	It's a vow.
	It's a vow.
	It's mental exploitation.
	It tells you everything you need to know.
	She admits that she wants you to feel bad about your family, your house, your country, your existence.
	That you have to have what Herbert Marcuse called the recognition of servitude.
	But only when you recognize that you're a serf, that you're a slave, would you think of overthrowing the system.
	All right, I mention this because this isn't just something abstract in the stratosphere.
	This is very serious.
	This lady, who wants white people to feel guilt and pay reparations, was just paid to give a speech in the Virginia County of Fairfax, $29,000 for a one-hour talk.
	Then she came to the community center near where I live, in mclean and she was paid another six thousand dollars which you said in your article works out to five hundred and eighty nine dollars per minute that's one appearance yeah mclean paid right so she would come to the library of fairfax i don't think there's a lawyer in america that gets six hundred dollars per minute and you have to think that for an anti-capitalist she's a
	To make $600 a minute to smear her country, that I can't say is good work, but it is impressive.
	Yeah, it's impressive.
	All right, the article right now, you can get it at Daily Mail.
	Congratulations for getting into the Daily Mail.
	It's the 1619 Project is back and as slanderous as ever.
	Hulu's new series is yet another vehicle for Huckster Nicole Hannah-Jones To turn white guilt into green bucks.
	The truth be damned.
	Not the shortest title in the world, but the Daily Mail does know what they are doing.
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	But that was one that was shot down.
	But they shot down two.
	South Carolina and Alaska.
	But that's the original shot to shoot down.
	That's South Carolina.
	- Yeah. - So how are they gonna explain, There's zero consistency.
	Why did they shoot down this one and not the other one?
	Well, because Biden got such a blowback.
	That's why.
	But I tell you, this is almost...
	It's like we're under attack by China.
	You know, like a second balloon in a few days.
	You know, his weakness is provocative.
	But the worst thing is I had, you know, my colleague who's the head of strategy and planning for the NSC, who was a B-2 bomber, and he was in studio on Tuesday.
	And as soon as the report came out that there were multiple overflights while we were in office, he said, well, if they were, I wasn't told.
	I was the general in charge of strategy and planning in the White House, which means Mattis or Milley didn't tell the president.
	So which one do you think is true?
	Oh, I think it occurred and they had to be the penny fund.
	You do think it occurred?
	And Millie didn't tell the President?
	Yeah.
	Millie is so bad.
	Millie is the worst.
	Millie is so... He's...
	He's like the husband watching his wife having sex with somebody else.
	He just doesn't care.
	He will actually say you're a great guy.
	Every general and colonel has had a beer with him.
	Everyone knows him.
	All the brass knows him.
	So it's impossible to criticize.
	Because everybody has his back.
	I just think he's bad news.
	Alright, what have we not played that's... Oh, play me that, cut 10.
	The truth is, black Americans have always been foundational to the idea of American freedom.
	What are her qualifications?
	- It is a fight.
	- She literally wrestled something in the fight.
	- It will always be a fight.
	- Every episode, there's somebody wrapped in the fight.
	- You are calling for reparations.
	What is the total that would be owed? - $14 trillion.
	- That's a big number.
	- Yeah.
	- Big debt though.
	- What are her qualifications?
	Does she have any?
	- She has a, she has an undergrad from, I think Notre Dame, and then she has a, an MA, and a master's in something not great.
	Was she somebody's protege or how did she get to be Miss 1619?
	She just went to work for the New York Times.
	Because she didn't have visibility before 1619.
	No, no, no, no.
	And in fact, if you look at the stuff she wrote for her undergrad, which I think is Notre Dame, she was actually a white hater.
	Oh, I bet.
	Can you play eight for me?
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	How this lady got to be the chief prosecutor for the state of California boggles my mind.
	Here is the Vice President of the United States impressed by phone chargers.
	Play cut.
	A few minutes ago, as Matt walked me around, I had the opportunity to take a look at one of the buses that is being built in this factory.
	It is a model.
	Wow.
	American innovation.
	What?
	No exhaust, no diesel smell, the bus has Wi-Fi, and even USB outlets next to every seat.
	I mean, come on, imagine, you can charge your phone on your way home from work.
	That's good stuff.
	Wow.
	What?
	You can charge your phone in a vehicle?
	Eric, does any other country have technology to charge their phones in a car or a bus?
	I don't know.
	It's like it's 2013 all over again, man.
	Does that mean we're on Mars already?
	Charging phones in a vehicle?
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	All right, let's get back to business.
	We're with our good buddy, Senior Fellow at the Heritage Foundation.
	He's the author of numerous works.
	You have to get them.
	The book on BLM is a must.
	The Making of a New Marxist Revolution.
	And then his second work, The Plot to Change America, how identity politics is dividing the land of the free.
	Your latest piece is in the Daily Mail.
	Everybody has to read it.
	Let's go back to the topic, which is the 1619 Project, and the real goal here.
	What's it all about?
	In their own words, Hannah Nicole Jones cut ten.
	The truth is, black Americans have always been foundational to the idea of American freedom.
	Democracy is a fight.
	It will always be a fight.
	You are calling for reparations.
	What is the total that would be owed?
	14 trillion dollars.
	That's a big number.
	Yeah.
	Big debt though.
	$14 trillion.
	Are you ready to pay it if you're of the wrong skin, Hugh?
	At the end of your article, you kind of have the cats out of the bag.
	What's the reason for all of this massive wealth transfer?
	This is just Marxism, Mike.
	That's exactly what it is.
	But you know what she says?
	What?
	She has said this.
	It's not going to be anybody paying it.
	It's the government.
	Yeah, but that money comes from... I'm confused.
	Is it like a big Monopoly set?
	It's like... She's dumb, right?
	I mean, really, she's not very smart.
	Perhaps she's not studied economics and where the government actually gets its money.
	The government doesn't just print an additional 14 trillion and distribute it to a population.
	that money has to be removed from other people.
	And given to others.
	It is a wealth transfer. - Right, so let's listen to her own words from an 8,000 word essay from the New York Times.
	8,000, I mean, are these people congenital morons?
	If we are to be redeemed, I thought they don't believe in the afterlife, if we are to live up to the magnificent ideals upon which we were founded.
	Really?
	I thought we were founded on slavery.
	I'm confused.
	We must do what is just.
	It is time for this country to pay its debt.
	It is time for reparations.
	But it's weird.
	It never says when the reparation paying ends.
	I'm confused, Mike.
	And that's the thing, right?
	Well, first of all, it's just...
	It's a ginormous number.
	And the very idea, even if it were a small number, the very idea of collective guilt, that people living today should pay for something that people they never met 200 years ago did in an institution that we find abhorrent, which is slavery.
	The idea that that collective guilt is not a good thing.
	It's not a good concept to embrace.
	I think Hitler used it for the Jews.
	Collective guilt is a bad thing to use.
	Hannah Arendt wrote a lot about this, saying this is a really bad idea for society.
	To think that the government would just give this money?
	No, the government is going to get it from the taxpayer.
	It is the taxpayer that's going to have to pay this in order to distribute it.
	And then, who gets it?
	Who decides?
	I'm white.
	Yes, I confess, I'm white.
	I moved to America.
	Okay?
	I've never owned slaves.
	My family have never owned slaves.
	They were from Poland and Lithuania.
	But I'm on the hook.
	Yeah, we know what this is.
	This is Marxism.
	And it's also racism.
	He is Gundy Salvas.
	You can also find his work at heritage.org.
	Senior Federal, Mike Gonzalez.
	Sadly, we're out of time.
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	So, it feels like months and months ago, but it was just a couple of weeks ago, we were at SHOT Show, that incredible event in Vegas that is the industries, the gun industries, convocation, I think, what is like 18 miles of floor space of exhibitors and manufacturers.
	And it's just a target-rich environment for people you want to have on the show.
	And one of them goes by the nom de guerre of Tactical Toolbox, and he was just walking down one of the aisles.
	And I grabbed him by the arm, introduced myself, and said, hey, big fan, got to get you on the show.
	And we are delighted.
	We reached out to Jonathan Wright.
	Jonathan, welcome to America First.
	Hey, thank you for having me.
	Sorry, I don't know why my video feed's not working.
	It's showing up on my end, but it's not showing up on the Skype app.
	You are not known as a shy individual.
	You are quite a prodigious producer of video content.
	I'm confused!
	I know, right?
	Well, yes.
	I don't ever use Skype, and this is my first time, but I had everything connected.
	It's just not showing up, and I have no idea why.
	All right, can we run B-roll?
	Do we have B-roll from Tactical Toolbox that we can roll in the meantime?
	All right, so there you go.
	That's what he looks like.
	Excellent.
	I think that works.
	Yeah, it's not going to lip-sync, but there he is showing off some double-stacked 2011s.
	That's actually one of the latest videos I've watched of yours.
	Nice job, Eric.
	Can I just talk about your channel for a bit before we talk about other things?
	Yeah, for sure.
	I think, I don't know, is it dastardly algorithms or something that made you pop up on my feed?
	And I, you know, watched a couple, loved it, immediately subscribed.
	We'll talk about what YouTube is doing to you and all the things you have to do to get around the censorious people running that platform.
	But you do things a little bit differently.
	Because you're clearly into guns, but nothing you do addresses your audience like you expect them to know everything about guns.
	You know, any newbie who's just maybe a little bit curious, doesn't know the difference between a 1911 and 2011, can watch your content and enjoy it.
	Is that deliberate or is it because of your experience?
	Are you new to this type of thing?
	Walk us through Tactical Toolbox.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So prior to 2015, I never owned a gun.
	Are you kidding?
	No.
	So give us the genesis.
	Yeah, for sure.
	So I had shot a couple of .22s when I was about 11.
	And one time, my dad, he had property we could shoot on, and we were getting ready to move.
	And I said, hey, could I handle your firearm?
	And he's like, yep.
	And he had taught me gun safety, but in my 11-year-old mind, I accidentally racked the slide, then dropped the mag.
	And I pointed the gun in the safe direction, but it went bang when I was expecting a click.
	And it scared me.
	So right after that, he moved and I wasn't able to ever shoot again.
	And I had this fear of guns from like 11 to age 30.
	So what happened?
	Uh, some dudes decided to chase my wife down the freeway one time and nothing bad happened thankfully, but it got my brain turning on like, what will we do?
	Yeah.
	I wasn't around to like talk her through it.
	Um, so.
	Started getting into guns, got over the fear.
	And then I like to tinker on things.
	And the first gun I got was a Glock 19.
	And then I didn't realize that there was all these aftermarket parts available.
	And at the time in 2016, at this time, I was looking up reviews on some of these parts and nobody was doing it.
	So I was like, well, let me see if I can do it.
	And it just kind of snowballed from there.
	And so.
	I try to explain things from a new person's perspective because when I was, I learned a lot from YouTube.
	So everything I learned about guns in the beginning was from YouTube.
	I learned how to grip a gun, learned range etiquette, gun store etiquette, all that stuff.
	And so I was like, man, if I can bring a different perspective on some things, maybe that people would like that.
	I didn't know.
	And so I just kind of, one thing led to another, and I just kind of followed my own curiosity.
	And a lot of times in my videos, I'm learning as I go.
	So it kind of helps when I'm learning as I'm making the video to explain things in a way that people understand.
	I'm curious, how did you get over that inculcated fear of guns for like 20 years?
	Did somebody walk you through it?
	Did you do it by yourself?
	How did you cross that bridge when you decided to get back into it?
	Basically, it was when the fear of losing a loved one Surpassed the fear of handling a gun that it was kind of a no-brainer at that point Wow, I love it.
	We don't know Jonathan, right?
	He's the host of a superb channel tactical toolbox subscribe right now.
	Let's talk about your channel you every single day I think every kind of video you post is You have to give a new intro, how you have to dance through the barbed wire and the razors of what they're doing to try and censor you and how you have to go through various different steps to get the links and the information.
	What is the future of the content provider industry for people like you and your colleagues?
	I mean, honestly, I don't know.
	You know, it's, it's interesting.
	Cause you know, for the first couple of years I was on YouTube, I didn't have any issues.
	Nobody really did it gun gun specific.
	It wasn't until March, 2018, when they came out with rules specific about firearms.
	And even after that, aside from monetization, which I never worried about monetization really.
	Cause I was like, well, I'll, I'll work on different ways of earning monetization.
	Um, aside from that, I never had any issues with them taking anything down.
	That didn't really start until January of 2022 When Blumenthal and a bunch of other US senators decided to write an official letter to the CEO of YouTube saying basically They were basically participating in government censorship with a private company but they named two of my videos in there and they were saying that my videos were instructing on how to build firearms and in fact my videos weren't I just I knew the rules better than YouTube knows the rules.
	So I just showed the gun disassembled, then showed it completely assembled.
	And then I would upload a separate video on a different platform that actually had instructions on how to do it.
	And they ended up, I think right before SHOT Show, deleting three or four of them.
	Saying that I was instructing on how to build.
	And then I talked to YouTube and I said, no, there's no instructions.
	And they said, well, you link to instructions.
	That's the same thing.
	This is when the content platform knows nothing about the content that they are curating.
	That's the trouble.
	We're out of time.
	Jonathan, can we get you back for a longer chat?
	Yeah, absolutely, man.
	All right.
	Last question.
	What are you carrying right now?
	Right now I'm carrying a Glock 19 that's completely modified.
	All right.
	We'll have to talk about that next time.
	You've got to get the camera working because we want to see how tricked out your Glock 19 is.
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	That's me, that's me.
	Hey, apart from the camera glitch, he was pretty good for a first-time guest I just bumped into in the hallways.
	What do you think?
	Hey, John, what do you think?
	Pretty good?
	Pretty good?
	Is he up?
	Is he up?
	Yeah, he was really good.
	Yeah, kind of relaxed, took it in his stride.
	Okay, I can't work a camera even though I'm a YouTube content provider.
	Pretty good.
	What do you think?
	What do you think, Eric?
	I thought it was fantastic.
	Yeah, a great addition to the long list of alumnus, of alumni here on Second Amendment Friday segments.
	Well, you almost got your Latin cogitation wrong there, but you corrected yourself rapidly.
	What do you think, Guy?
	Pretty good?
	Who do you refer to, sir?
	The last guest!
	Tactical Toolbox!
	I think he's great, but I think I need to check more on his content first.
	I think you should.
	I think you should.
	Last man.
	Because Jeff is... What is he doing on vacation?
	Who gave him permission to go on vacation?
	That's what I want to know!
	Alex, what do you think of Tactical Toolbox?
	Definitely have him back.
	He was great.
	He was so chill.
	I liked it.
	So chill.
	I like it.
	All right.
	We've got somebody who's chill sometimes.
	Other times he gets a little bit excited.
	He's Tucker Carlson with a clip that Eric says, I've got to play before we go on to the manhood hour, because it's just too funny.
	Look, when you're making fun of CNN, well, you just got to play the clip.
	Roll VT.
	How can a man so obviously limited have such boundless self-esteem?
	Doesn't he know he's an idiot?
	No.
	He has no idea.
	This is the guy who once suggested that a commercial airliner had been eaten by a black hole.
	And when people laughed at him, he seemed completely unbothered by their laughter.
	In a world of intellectual pretense, Don Lamon is not ashamed of being dumb, or for that matter, ashamed of anything else.
	When he got fired last year from his primetime gig for low ratings and reassigned to mornings, he told viewers it was a promotion, and he seemed to mean it.
	So whatever else you say about Mr. Don Lamon, he is unflappable.
	Or so we assumed.
	It turns out there is in fact one thing that bothers Don Lamon, and that's not being the prettiest person on the set.
	That drives him insane.
	So possibly as a kind of torture, a kind of punishment, CNN's new president, Chris Licht, paired Don Lamon with two much younger, much more attractive co-hosts, Caitlin Collins and Poppy Harlow.
	And the normally steely Don Lamon began to melt down before our very eyes.
	The bad thing is, I'm like a Pavlovian dog.
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	It's the manhood hour.
	It's the manhood hour.
	It's the manhood hour.
	It's the manhood hour.
	It's the manhood hour.
	It's the manhood hour.
	It's the manhood hour.
	It's the manhood hour.
	It's the manhood hour.
	And today may be called toxic.
	Well, we revel in it.
	Today we're going to go a little bit deeper.
	We're not going to talk to former SEALs or founding members of Delta Force.
	We're going to take this to the... What height was that Chinese balloon at?
	We're going to go to the stratosphere, 60,000 feet at least, to look at the overarching assault on masculinity and what we can do about it with a man whose mind I respect greatly.
	He was a loss from his last employer.
	Now he's ended up somewhere even more influential.
	We love Hillsdale College.
	Larry, You're doing just fine.
	Could you build another thousand of those?
	He is from the DC campus of Hillsdale College, fellow professor, Dr. David Azrad.
	Welcome in studio.
	Thank you for having me, Sebastian.
	It's been too long.
	It has been a while.
	So when are you going to publish your first book?
	Larry told me to kick your butt.
	Well, he's pressuring me to get married first, and then I'm going to do the book.
	Priorities.
	OK.
	Marriage first, then the book.
	That sounds very, very good.
	OK.
	I have five questions I ask all of my guests that I have received from my boss, the matriarch of the family.
	You know her well.
	You were on a panel with her recently.
	The first one, I don't think I have to couch in the terms I usually do.
	I ask my guests, is masculinity, is manhood in danger?
	I think the answer you're going to say to that is yes.
	What is the magnitude Really?
	of the assault?
	How serious is the assault on the classic virtues and the classic tropes of manhood?
	I don't think you could find a more feminized society in human history than ours.
	Really?
	I mean, where would you even begin to look?
	I mean, you know, if a feminist were here, she'd start twitching and say, "What are you talking about?" Look at the disparities.
	We've never had a woman president.
	So they like to point to the fact that women are underrepresented in a whole bunch of realms.
	Setting aside the fact that they are then overrepresented in others, like college campuses, for example, I would just say, even in places where there are not a lot of women at the top, the ethos is a feminine one.
	People get offended.
	They report you to HR.
	Think of how men relate to one another, right?
	We basically insult one another, are pretty hard with one another to each other's faces.
	Women don't deal with one another that way.
	That's fine.
	They're soft and they're more gentle.
	That's what Jordan Peterson calls being agreeable.
	The feminine characteristic of agreeability.
	And we are, even when we're being agreeable, we're aggressive, especially with our friends.
	Living is affection.
	It is.
	But it's also offensive, because we use ethnic humor.
	We call each other, we make implications about our sexual orientation, to put it in polite terms.
	That's what guys do, but you can't do that in the modern workplace.
	You can't do that in the military.
	So think of the places that you would think are the most masculine.
	The NFL, the military, and the police.
	There is a feminine spirit there.
	Forget the fact, aside from the NFL, that they lower standards across the board to accommodate female officers or female cadets.
	The NFL, they dress them up in pink for Breast Cancer Month.
	They have them apologize for slavery.
	They're all obsessed about concussions.
	They are, I think they view masculinity as a threat to their project.
	They're trying to deconstruct it and neutralize it.
	And the rhetoric of the feminists notwithstanding, I think you see a feminist and feminine spirit.
	that pervades all institutions.
	I've got to push back on that.
	Yeah.
	It's not feminine.
	These people aren't feminine.
	I mean, you know, the radical, those who screech toxic masculinity and claw at the bronze doors of the Supreme Court, they're not feminine, David, are they?
	So they're not feminine in the best sense of the term, but they tap into some aspects of the feminine character.
	So, for example, finding certain, you know, being more delicate and being more readily offended.
	Being more compassionate and more pitiful of those who are harmed or suffering.
	I mean, look at the widespread unease we have across the West in using force to punish.
	I mean, I'm not talking about reveling in violence against the innocent.
	I mean, killing really, really bad people who have been found guilty.
	We feel uncomfortable with it.
	And I think that's more of a feminine trait, to be bothered by suffering.
	Look at the push to start granting, you know, something equivalent to human rights for animals.
	The real unease at seeing animals suffering.
	So, you know, I don't want to live... I mean, I think this is an obvious point, but it's worth saying because people get offended.
	In an ideal society, you would have the masculine and the feminine balancing each other, tempering each other, making each other stronger and better.
	We are off kilter.
	We are out of whack.
	And, you know, and in a certain sense, it's the men's fault.
	We'll talk about that in a second, the genesis of it.
	What is your dissertation on?
	How do you classify yourself?
	What pigeonhole do you put yourself in academically?
	Philosopher, historian, poli sci?
	I studied political philosophy.
	I wrote a dissertation on John Locke's first treaties of government.
	I mostly studied the tradition of political philosophy from Plato to Heidegger.
	But then my career has been in American political thought because I worked at the Heritage Foundation for nine years and now the teaching I do at Hillsdale is partly political philosophy but a lot of American political thought.
	So basically from the founding until today.
	So let's put this into the correct historic context.
	When did this really begin?
	And when was the acceleration?
	Because we had, you know, the invention of the pill.
	We had flower power.
	We had the 60s.
	And then it seems as if we woke up one morning and CRTs being taught in kindergarten.
	When did the assault on masculinity really begin?
	And when did it accelerate?
	There are so many ways to answer this question.
	Let's keep it simple to start.
	I think what gets called second wave feminism is probably a good starting point.
	So the first wave of feminism is in the 19th century and the main focus is suffrage.
	It culminates in the 19th amendment in America.
	Now, that said, that first wave, you know, also changes the character of the regime.
	I mean, if we accept as conservatives that there's a fundamental natural difference between men and women, you know, I never hear conservatives shut up about, you know, we believe in nature, human nature, human nature.
	Well, it's going to change the character of America to grant full civic equality to women.
	It's going to make the country softer in a certain sense.
	Other issues will be emphasized.
	Exactly.
	Now, the second wave of feminism is really where I think the big change happens.
	And Simone de Beauvoir writes a book called Le Second Sexe in 1944 in France.
	And Betty Friedan writes The Feminine Mystique in 1963, I think.
	And she basically brings the ideas of de Beauvoir to America.
	The book is a massive bestseller.
	I mean, it's sold over a million copies.
	And the basic argument of the book is that the domestic life is equivalent to being in a concentration camp.
	You're a prisoner.
	Your wife is a prisoner.
	Yes, she's miserable.
	And that the only way that women can become fully human and find happiness is if they go outside of the home.
	So the way I sum up Friedanian feminism is career first, family second, women can have it all.
	Now, she is then rapidly outflanked to her left by what she ends up calling the lavender mafia.
	Like the really radical lesbian feminists who say, to hell with the family.
	Women need men like fish need bicycles.
	That famous quote by, who was it again?
	I forget her name now.
	So Friedan panics and says, Oh, well, actually, you know, maybe I take it back.
	Maybe the home is not like a concentration camp.
	But in case the damage is done, the consensus shifts, you have a brief Period of pushback from the right.
	I think the unsung hero there is Phyllis Schlafly.
	Yes.
	Who is really... Gloria Steinem, sorry.
	Gloria Steinem, that's it.
	What an amazing woman Phyllis Schlafly was, right?
	Married with five kids and then gets into this fight.
	She single-handedly kills the Equal Rights Amendment.
	But the Phyllis Schlafly position has since disappeared in America.
	Totally.
	So her argument was family first, Work second and there are trade-offs.
	But you know, I'm in DC.
	I've been in the conservative movement, I think, for as long as you have.
	That message has disappeared from the right.
	I mean, I tell people, your mainstream conservative elected official or intellectual today is basically Betty Friedan minus the overblown rhetoric.
	The basic message to all the young women on the right is you need to go to college, you need to have a career, you should then also get married, and by the way, there are no trade-offs.
	You can have it all.
	You can have it all.
	And the truth is, you know, women can't have it all, men can't have it all, no one can have it all.
	I mean, the human condition is about tradeoffs.
	So, to answer your question, I think the feminization of society is second wave feminism, which is then, if you want, weaponized through the civil rights regime.
	Yes.
	So institutionalized in the government and then through HR departments across the country, creating the monster we have today of lawsuits for disparate impact, affirmative action, workplace harassment.
	I mean, the death of humor in the workplace because someone's going to get offended.
	Men walking on eggshells around women.
	You don't know what you can say, what you can't say.
	You know, the death of flirting and ultimately, to a sad extent, I don't want to say the death of love, but the disappearance of love.
	Because the sexes develop an antagonistic relationship vis-a-vis one another.
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	Right, we've talked about where the assault came from, the genesis, the various waves of feminism.
	Let's talk about our side.
	Let's talk about the classic concepts.
	What is the definition?
	What is the proper definition of a man?
	What things must it contain?
	The first word that comes to mind for me is duty.
	It's responsibility.
	I mean, you know, to the point about how feminized we are, Jordan Peterson becomes an international sensation.
	I don't mean to take away from him too much, but by basically telling young men to make their bed, It's stunning.
	The idea that a modest, soft-spoken, Canadian, academic, because he takes a stance against speech police in Canada, becomes the warrior of masculinity, tells you where we're at.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, his message to young men, which resonated so much with him.
	You know, the most interesting thing about Peterson to me is, he says his audience is overwhelmingly young men.
	It shows the craving still in the human soul to hear a message of responsibility, i.e., not just claiming rights, although it is manly to assert your rights if they're being trampled.
	You know, my favorite line in any founding document is the fifth grievance leveled against the king in the Declaration of Independence.
	For dissolving repeatedly Houses of Assembly.
	He has repeatedly dissolved Houses of Assembly.
	Why?
	For opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
	In America, we don't just declare our rights.
	We oppose with manly firmness those who violate them.
	You know, talk is cheap.
	Read the Syrian constitution if you want to see a great declaration of rights.
	Or the Stalins.
	Or the Stalins!
	Right, right.
	What makes America different is asserting these rights.
	So I don't mean to say, you know, rights are bad, but the message today is claim things for yourself, you know, give me this, free college, free healthcare, and then of course always excuses, right?
	It's never my fault.
	My parents didn't love me enough, video games corrupted my soul.
	I think a man is someone who does his duty and assumes responsibility for his action, and recognizes that there are duties to parents, to siblings, to friends, to countrymen, and eventually to a wife and to children.
	And for me, one of the ones that isn't discussed adequately is duty to the vulnerable in general.
	Whether it's the unborn, whether it's the aged, those who cannot defend themselves, that's a man's job.
	Yeah, with, I'd say, two caveats.
	I understand, I think the mansoul is sometimes a little bit harder, and it'll manifest itself differently than feminine compassion for the poor.
	And then second, I'm very suspicious of any kind of cosmopolitanism that teaches that the highest duties are to mankind.
	Oh, I'm not talking about universalism. I'm not talking about universalism.
	It's an amorphous sense.
	Yeah, in Bangladesh.
	And, I don't know, you post something on Instagram and you donate $25, or even better, you donate $0.50 at Starbucks, you round up, you know, for some cause.
	And you get to feel good about yourself, but at no real cost.
	So, I think being a man is a hard thing.
	I think it's difficult.
	I think, you know, the life expectancy for men is always shorter than for women.
	It requires some physical strength.
	Now, I say this, you know, I don't go to the gym.
	I'm not a devotee of working out.
	I do some pushups at home, but I think a man needs to have some physical strength.
	But I think it's an exhilarating challenge to be a man.
	So there's something difficult about it, but there's a satisfaction that comes from knowing that you've cared and protected for your own, that you've done your duty, and that you've maybe, you know, picked up a few scars along the way.
	I think there's a deep, quiet satisfaction That comes from it.
	And meaning, absolutely.
	This is one of my favorite questions for all of our guests in the Manhood Hour.
	Who or what have been the greatest influences on you in your understanding of manhood?
	We've had literary figures.
	We've had, you know, the guy who took me through basic training in the seals.
	For you, where did that crystallization come to you from?
	So, I'd say there's the personal and the theoretical.
	The personal, not to sound kitschy, I would say is my father.
	Grew up very poor in Morocco as a second-class Jewish citizen.
	His father died when he was young, leaving my grandmother alone with 11 kids.
	And he's one of the most honest, hardworking, dutiful men I know.
	Never complained.
	Raised the family well.
	And I saw him be generous with his friends, his family members.
	Just an honest, good, real man.
	And we never had American TV moments where he would sit me down and say, you know, David, I want to give you a lesson.
	He didn't teach me by talking.
	He taught me by doing.
	That was one.
	The other one, I would have to say, is one of my intellectual heroes.
	Probably my favorite living American, regrettably a man I've never had the pleasure of meeting, is Pat Buchanan.
	Oh!
	And the manliness I learned from him was of Calling out the lies of the regime, boldly and defiantly speaking the truth.
	He's not the only one.
	Solzhenitsyn in Russia did that very well, live not by lies.
	I think Rod Dreher named the title of his last book after a Solzhenitsyn line.
	But I discovered Buchanan late in life and was just amazed by the man's courage.
	And defiance before the lies of the regime.
	He's not the only one, but that is an element of courage.
	You know, courage is in part on the battlefield, but that is not going to apply for most people.
	But then there's the courage of calling out these lies.
	And, you know, take a man like General Mattis.
	He had the battlefield courage, presumably, but proved to be a bit of a regime lackey when it came time to call out the lies.
	Pat Buchanan never served in the military, didn't fight in battle, but my God, what a fighter.
	And, you know, to not bend the knee when they come for your head and call you an anti-Semite and a racist, and all the terms they use to silence debate, crush you and humiliate you.
	That's courage.
	That's manliness.
	You know, Trump had a lot of that.
	I think part of the reason, I mean, I was drawn to Trump, and I know many were, was The guy would just say out loud what all of us thought, what we would whisper, and then when everyone would freak out, he'd repeat it the next day.
	When I first met him, summer of 15, I was invited to meet him to potentially advise him, which I ended up doing.
	I went with trepidation to Trump Tower, but within the first literally 30 seconds of me sitting across the desk from him in his office, I realized this man utterly detests political correctness and is prepared to call it out.
	And I said, yeah, I can work with that.
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	What do young boys in America, in the English-speaking world, need to be taught?
	What is the non-negotiable minimum on the syllabus of what we teach young boys?
	haven't discussed that is a component of manliness is a certain spirit for adventure and risk-taking daring so there's the element of duty but there's a bit of an element of danger and part of the feminine feminization of society is the safetyism is you know the risk averse yeah risk averse the helicopter parents the snowplow parents so i think there's a canadian thing that's a canadian thing The snowplow parents?
	No, I heard it is, as in America, like you clear all the obstacles before the child.
	So the helicopters you hover above them to make sure they're safe.
	This is no obstacles before them.
	Funny.
	So embracing, embracing... So one is, I think there should be more unstructured Play, and being outdoors, and no helmets, and scraping your knees, and getting lost, and you don't need to call every five minutes.
	But then second, I would have them read stories of, you know, adventure.
	Rollicking adventure.
	Of explorers.
	And there's going to be violence in there.
	And, you know, it's fine.
	I mean, you don't want to raise a brute.
	It goes without saying.
	But something that kindles their imagination.
	You know, When you look at the public square today, at the prominent people, one thing that always strikes me is how uninspiring and unmanly the goals they set for themselves are.
	Like you ask any billionaire, what do you want to do with your money?
	I want to cure cancer.
	Now look, that's a commendable goal, but it's basically living longer.
	What I like about Elon Musk I'm going to go to Mars.
	And look, I don't want to go to Mars.
	I don't want to go on a spaceship.
	I don't want to live on Mars.
	But I like the spirit of daring.
	One of the things I like most about America is the lunar landing.
	That is daring.
	That's defining.
	It's defining.
	So if only our schools would teach Apollo 11, As much as they teach slavery.
	Give the children, the boys in particular, and look, some girls also, there's no doubt about that, some women have more of a masculine spirit, that's fine, to think big daring thoughts rather than just a sense of guilt and self-flagellation and shame for their past.
	You talk about Musk and you talk about billionaires and what have you.
	The thing that strikes me about the political elite since the 1990s, since Thatcher and Reagan and blessed St. John Paul II, I look at every political leader without the odd exception of maybe Trump and a few others, and they are all utterly unprepossessing I look at every political leader without the odd exception of maybe Unprepossessing and unimpressive.
	I mean, there's no de Gaulle's amongst them.
	There's no church.
	There's nobody who'd say, yeah, I want him in the foxhole next to me.
	I mean, the idea of a Tony Blair or Bill Clinton in the foxhole next to me, you know, he'd be on the end of my bayonet.
	So it's also the political elite.
	Yeah.
	That lacks any sense of adventure.
	Yeah.
	But everyone else, the actors, the famous people, there's, I mean, It's mediocre and feminine and compassionate in the worst sense of the term, not in the proper Christian sense of the term.
	Right.
	Yeah, I think I would want the young boys to have a bit of contempt for these elites.
	This is something you find in both Buchanan and Trump, for example.
	A man should have a certain level of contempt for pathetic weaklings, especially if they're misbehaving.
	If they're victims of circumstances, that's where you might have pity.
	But some of these people, it's appropriate to voice one's contempt.
	When mediocrity is a choice, when risk aversion is a choice.
	And then imposed on others.
	And imposed on others, then you have contempt.
	Yes.
	That's why people like Trump have to be destroyed.
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	My son, who's now taller than me, stronger than me, smarter than me, age 24, which is as it should be, I tell you all fathers, we used to arm wrestle every day on his birthday from age 14.
	By the time he hit 18, it was a draw and we haven't arm wrestled since that day because The correct progression has occurred.
	My son, who loves classics, he said, we are due a war.
	Soft times make soft men.
	We are due some hard times that will create hard men.
	Is that the only way this is going to change?
	That some crisis Because there's only one Hillsdale, David.
	There is only one Hillsdale.
	No, I don't think we need a war.
	First of all, I think it's changing because the dissatisfaction is rampant, the Jordan Peterson phenomenon.
	You know, this whole kind of online bro-y right, you know, these guys that preach weightlifting, how to talk to women, going out and getting some sun, no porn, no video games.
	Oh, young men are craving for this message, which means that they're dissatisfied with what is going on.
	So that's the opening.
	But that's not going to be the solution.
	No.
	It's very superficial.
	But it shows that the discontent is there.
	The supply is greater, or rather the demand is greater than the supply of alternatives at this point.
	Things are changing.
	I also don't think that the current regime is stable and tenable.
	By regime, I mean it in the broader sense, not just the cultural regime.
	This way of life that we have is not tenable.
	I'm not making grand predictions about what's going to happen in the short term, but I think life will get harder.
	Even without any kind of a war, and masculinity will inevitably reassert itself.
	And I am encouraged by the number of parents I see who are not excessively political, wouldn't necessarily listen to your show, or even like Trump.
	And are starting to be concerned about their boys.
	The screens, the Adderall, the pathologizing of boyishness.
	I don't know where it's all going to go, but no, I'm cautiously optimistic, I would put it.
	And will some of the... My issue is, if I look at COVID in the last three years, is I see, and this saddens me, I find it tragic as an immigrant to this country who chose it, I see that the spirit on which this nation was founded, which is the Frontier Spirit, West Young Man, kind of disappeared for three years.
	And we were told to shut everything down, shut the schools down, shut your businesses down, unless you're Walmart and Amazon.
	And then one restauranteur in California and one gym owner in New Jersey would say no to Fauci, and it would be a story.
	And I'd say, Hang on a second.
	This is a nation of 330 million people.
	Why is it one restauranteur here, one gym owner there?
	It should have been tens of thousands.
	So where has the virtue of courage gone?
	Look, there was a fair amount of defiance.
	I think not as much as we would have wanted to.
	And eventually we did undo the whole madness.
	I mean, the darkest moment I had in the past three years was thinking this is never going to end, that we're going to wear masks for the rest of our lives.
	Life is pretty much back to normal as far as COVID is concerned, but it did reveal that the West kind of lost its mind and really was so risk-averse for something that basically proved to be a bad version of the flu, that it was willing to eliminate all normal activities.
	I saw, I think, maybe we looked at it differently.
	I saw more defiance.
	Really?
	Than you did.
	Look, I didn't see as much as I would have liked to.
	In D.C.?
	No, well not, okay.
	Well, not in D.C., but, you know, in some redder parts of America.
	There's more and more defiance, I feel, across the board.
	More and more snickering amongst boys, I think, when people start blathering about systemic racism and the horrors of America.
	Like I said, the demand is greater than the supply right now.
	I think if more people came along and said bold, defined things, offered challenging things, like, I'd love to see a red state governor mandate wrestling in public schools for boys.
	I would like to see more all-boys schools arise.
	You know, I gotta tell you, I give a lot of talks, probably, I don't know, 50, 60 a year.
	One of the coolest ones I ever gave was at an all-boys school.
	in Nashville, Tennessee.
	And I was the morning speaker, and I gave a talk called, The Canadian Case for America, because I'm a Canadian.
	And the energy in that room, from the boys, who were loving it, was so exhilarating.
	And I thought, we have boys schools in America, but there should be more of them.
	I mean, that's another thing I think is very important is, Keep and create more spaces for men to be men and in the company of men.
	I find it so pathetic this idea of a man cave.
	That a man needs to go into the basement of his house to do what?
	Play video games?
	No, that's not what a man does.
	There should be ideally clubs or just spaces where men can still be men.
	I mean, we need women, we love women and we should be with them and they're in many places, I'd say in most places.
	But it's important to preserve some of these spaces.
	I think especially for younger boys.
	I mean, you know, how are you supposed to concentrate on studies as a pubescent boy with hormones coursing through your body when you've got girls blossoming in front of you?
	That's not conducive to learning.
	My son went to an all boys school until he was 16.
	And it was a school, Catholic school, where if in the recess, if you didn't come back, With mud on your pants and, you know, a ripped pocket on your blazer, you didn't do recess properly.
	I mean, they were encouraged, you know, within boundaries to roughhouse.
	And the camaraderie, I mean, his friends circle today is a 24-year-old.
	I mean, they challenge each other, you know, we're going to get up at 5.45 each morning We're going to make sure we're in church by eight.
	We're going to keep each other accountable.
	That comes from being in an all-boys school where they're allowed to be young men together.
	So, I could not concur more.
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	So lastly, it sounds to me that when it comes to this all-out assault on the sex that built Western civilization, you are optimistic that there is something nascent, something organic, some counter-revolution bubbling?
	Yes.
	And do you think in that positive response, I'm curious, It's probably going to come from not just those who are otherwise apolitical or don't consider themselves to be political, but I think it's isn't it going to come from those areas that are derisively called the flyover states outside of the metropole?
	It might, although, you know, masculinity is not doing very well there either.
	In the rural areas, really?
	Well, I mean, look at the morbid obesity.
	I don't mean being a little bit overweight and having a belly.
	That's perfectly fine.
	I mean, having so completely lost control over your appetites that you can barely move anymore.
	The opioid problem, which is part of, I think, a deeper spiritual malaise of a broken, conquered people in their own country who've lost the will to live.
	It's funny, on the prior point, he's not exactly a philosopher, but he is influential.
	I saw this clip of Joe Rogan recently, and he just said, look at the home movies from the beach in the 1960s and 70s.
	There was nobody who was morbidly, I mean, nobody, there was nobody who couldn't see their feet.
	These aren't models.
	These were Americans, working class, middle class Americans at the beach.
	And then you contrast it today and then it's kind of a wake up call.
	Yeah.
	So, I don't exactly know where it will come from.
	Will it come from reaction to the transgender extremism?
	I mean, I think it's going to be a confluence of factors that are going to join in one stream.
	My, I don't want to say concern is, you know, you can also have the wrong kind of masculinity.
	Namely barbarism or savagery.
	So, right now, the problem is... Someone wrote an article many years ago called Wimps or Barbarians.
	And I think the argument was that the young men today are basically given only two models of masculinity.
	To be a wimp, i.e.
	the feminized man, or to be a barbarian, meaning someone who doesn't know how to treat women properly, who doesn't control his impulses, who is You know, think of the excess spiritedness that you find in gang members.
	Right.
	So, some of the people who are tapping into the discontent, I think, are offering not a positive model of masculinity.
	So, I would want to take these different streams and channel them into something constructive, that taps into the Western tradition of masculinity that, you know, has always sharply distinguished between civilization and barbarism, contrary to what the feminists have told us, have never treated women like cattle or brutalized them senselessly.
	So, tap into what is best into the male spirit and put it to the service of the common good, to the country, to families, To making America great again, if you will.
	It's a good catchphrase.
	I like that.
	I think I might share that with somebody I know in West Palm Beach.
	All right.
	We've been talking to David Azrad, as I'd like to do with our more academic guests, especially when we have the likes of VDH on.
	And, of course, he's also affiliated with Hillsdale.
	Last question.
	I'd like to give our three million listeners and all of our viewers a little bit of homework.
	So, for those whose interest has been piqued, who aren't steeped in political philosophy or the founding or the principles of Western civilization, give us a couple of things they should read as primers.
	Where should they start?
	Where's a good... I mean, I always say Alex de Tocqueville.
	Start with dead white guys.
	Preferably, you know, dead a few centuries.
	But give our listeners something to read.
	Well, you can't go wrong with Tocqueville's Democracy in America, which has been described as both the greatest book ever written about America and about democracy.
	It's long, which can be daunting to people, but the chapters are very short and I always tell people, go through the table of contents and pick at random any chapter that tickles your fancy and you'll be blown away by what he saw 200 years ago.
	As a foreigner?
	As a foreigner, who only spent 13 months, I think, traveling the country A very impressive book.
	And he warns against the society becoming too soft, which leads to tyranny at the end of the book.
	Another thing I might recommend is, well, maybe Plutarch's lives, if we're going to talk about Manglia.
	So, Plutarch wrote these parallel lives of great Romans and Greeks.
	And they're, you know, 40 to 60 to 70 pages each one, and they give you an account of these great men.
	I mean, they're really an account of the great lives of people like Caesar, Publius.
	I really think that they make for wonderful reading.
	Good.
	Wonderful.
	Love it.
	Love it.
	Your homework has been deployed.
	Questions will be asked next week.
	Maybe not, but just keep reading.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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