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Feb. 1, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Nikki Haley wants to be President

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	Has the FBI conducted any searches of any other locations associated with the President that you or the White House is aware of?
	Look, I think we're providing information as this goes on and answering questions about the search activities as they've been happening.
	I don't want to speak too much to the DOJ's practices in an ongoing investigation.
	I can say, you know, that we have cooperated fully.
	The President's personal attorneys have provided information to DOJ.
	I think they're taking him down.
	That is White House counsel addressing the press corps outside the West Wing.
	Oh, greetings!
	I should always do that first.
	Sebastian Gorka, this is America First on the Salem News Channel.
	Another search of a Biden residence.
	This time his Beach House in Rehoboth, where the FBI under DOJ orders searched the building today in a very strange way because it's not very redolent of what happened at Mar-a-Lago.
	Let me read to you the statement from Biden's personal attorney, Bob Bauer, not his White House counsel.
	It's starting to get a little bit hot for the president.
	Quote, Today, with the President's full support and cooperation, the DOJ is conducting a planned, a planned search of his home in Rehoboth, Delaware, wrote Bob Bauer, personal attorney for the President, in a new statement, quote, under DOJ's standard procedures.
	Oh, this is just standard.
	I mean, oh!
	Hey, Eric, you worked for the US government, didn't you?
	For a brief but long enough period of time, yes.
	Yeah, when you thought you could escape us.
	You went into the Trump administration.
	Oh, once we've got our claws in you, you can't escape.
	It was standard.
	I mean, you had your apartment searched by FBI agents for classified documents, right?
	I mean, that was just standard, right?
	It was so often I ended up on a first-name basis with someone.
	You just gave them the keys and the code for the lock, right?
	I should have had them sign it as a co-tenant on my apartment at that point.
	Okay.
	Under DOJ's... Back to Biden's personal attorney, Bob Bauer.
	Yeah, look him up.
	Under DOJ's standard procedures in the interests of operational security and integrity... Hang on.
	Operational security What are you talking about?
	Is Biden running agents in Kabul right now?
	Are you protecting the sources and methods of some clandestine walk-in that the Trump administration, the Biden administration, is running out of Joe Biden's Rehoboth Beach home?
	I mean, are they keeping the code word documents under the towel stack on the deck?
	In the interests of operational security and integrity, it sought to do this work without advanced public notice.
	Oh, this is, this is fascinating.
	So listen to what Bob Bauer is saying.
	The DOJ sought to search Biden's beach house without advanced public notice, and we agreed to cooperate.
	So that means Biden was given advance notice, but the public wasn't.
	Hey Jeff, weren't we promised that this is going to be the most transparent administration in American presidential history?
	Yeah, exactly.
	We're getting that.
	No, we are getting something, but I don't know if we're getting that.
	So, they warned Biden, so he knew in advance, so he could send his agents, he could send his lawyers to all his properties, put in a burn bag anything they found, put them back on Hunter's laptop, but the public, the public would not be warned in advance.
	Do you understand what's going on here?
	They raid Mar-a-Lago.
	In vehicles full of armed agents, gun-carrying agents, who told, we had them on the show, told President Trump's lawyers they're not allowed to be in the building as the FBI is rooting through Melania's underwear drawer.
	The lawyers weren't allowed to stand next to the federal thugs and make sure they weren't planting anything.
	That they weren't stealing anything.
	Instead, with Biden, whose... Some of these documents date from when he was a senator.
	A senator!
	That's over a decade ago!
	Instead, the DOJ gives Biden a heads up.
	Says, hey, hey, February 1st, we're gonna come to your house.
	Make sure all the stuff's gone.
	You know, the stuff you gave Hunter on Ukraine and China.
	Make sure you took it out of there, okay?
	The surge today, this is back to Bob Bauer, the surge today is a further step in a thorough and timely DOJ process.
	We will continue to fully support and facilitate.
	Well, how thorough can it be if you did this?
	When was it?
	It was what, Jeff?
	It was the week before the midterms, right?
	The first raid in the house that Hunter was renting for $49,000 was in November, right?
	Yeah, it was like six or seven days before.
	Right, so we are in February now, and they were searching Biden properties.
	Not Joe Biden properties, it's Hunter Biden in that garage with the Corvette.
	was actually in a house rented by hunter biden that was november but this is a tight quote timely doj thorough and timely doj process and we will continue to fully support and facilitate well yeah as long as you get heads up from you know main justice as long as they they get on the secure phone
	To Ambassador Rice in the White House and say, hey, two weeks from now we're going to go to the Delaware place and then we're going to go to the Rehoboth place.
	When do you want us to be there?
	We'll be there, oh I don't know, 11am.
	Is that good for you?
	Is that good for Hunter and Joe?
	We will have further information on the conclusion of today's search.
	Now that was this morning, allegedly.
	I mean, I posted it on all my social media.
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	That's www.sebastiangawker.substack.com www.sebastiangawker.substack.com but as soon as I heard this morning it was I don't know 11 a.m.
	or something I posted it on all my social media feeds and then I think as we were prepping for the show maybe 90 minutes ago, the report was no documents were found.
	What the hell do you think would happen if the DOJ, if Biden's employee Merrick Garland, the Attorney General, Has his thugs at DOJ tell Bob Bauer, Biden's personal attorney, hey, we're not disclosing this to the public, but we're going to come to Biden's summer house in Rehoboth on February 1st.
	What do you think you're going to find?
	You think you're going to find, you know, Hunter Biden in flagrante delicto with three Russian prostitutes?
	Sniffing, you know, smoking crack on the pipe that he left in the rental car that he crashed, leaving his dead brother's AG badge under the seat as well.
	God, this city stinks.
	Are they getting rid of Biden?
	Sound off.
	Tell me what you think.
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	Eric, get the top Biden one.
	Alright.
	I've got where he calls it a successful withdrawal.
	Not that he's proud of it.
	Good, good.
	That's fine.
	Call this cut 12.
	Let's make sure this works.
	Oh, ins and outs, Alex.
	Ins and outs.
	Alright.
	You're listening to America First one-on-one with me, Sebastian Gorka, and our special guest, Professor Tom West of Hillsdale, back in a moment.
	We'll be back with Hillsdale's Professor Tom West after these messages.
	More one-on-one in a moment with me, Sebastian Gorka, and Hillsdale's Professor Tom West.
	Welcome back to America First one-on-one with me, Sebastian Gorka, and Hillsdale's...
	Welcome back to America First one-on-one with me, Sebastian Gorka, and Hillsdale College's Professor Tom West.
	You're listening to America First one-on-one with me, Sebastian Gorka, and Professor Tom West.
	Welcome back to America First with me Sebastian Gorka and Professor Tom West, author of The Political Theory of the American Founding.
	Mike's back on, two and a half minutes.
	Alright, playback one actually, let's test this real quick.
	Go ahead.
	We completed one of the biggest airlifts in history with more than 120,000 people evacuated to safety.
	That number is more than double what most experts thought were possible.
	No nation, no nation has ever done anything like it in all of history.
	The only in the United States had the capacity and the will and the ability to do it, and we did it today.
	All right.
	Extraordinary success of this mission.
	How long is the whole thing?
	35.
	Okay, good.
	I'll do it after PhD.
	Oh, want the mics on or off?
	You can have them on.
	All right.
	We can hear him, but we don't have his... It's a black screen so far, but we hear his audio.
	Can you guys hear me?
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, we see you now.
	Alright, there we go.
	Hey, John, can you jump in here?
	Right now, can you hear me voice-wise?
	Much better, much better.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Excellent.
	Can you just, uh, do another little screen?
	Let's see.
	It kind of gets more complicated, or confusing.
	It's a little skew-whiff.
	A little bit to the left.
	Ah, thanks.
	Perfect.
	Thanks.
	Alright, how are we doing, Chad?
	I am good.
	Can you guys hear me?
	Yes.
	Keep talking, keep talking.
	Okay.
	How about... Now I'm gonna switch to, uh... Nope.
	No, we lost you.
	No.
	We could hear you before.
	No, we lost you.
	How about now?
	Now we can't.
	Keep talking.
	Okay.
	Keep talking.
	Test, test, test.
	One, two, three, test.
	Good.
	Alright.
	50 seconds.
	Alright, well, two segments.
	We'll talk about the book and we'll talk about Mighty Oaks.
	Saving Aziz.
	40 seconds.
	I think when we started this, I was in Afghanistan.
	Yes, correct.
	Yeah.
	You'll tee up that Biden cut?
	Yeah.
	Alrighty.
	And mic's off.
	Thank you.
	America First.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	You just don't say it at all, not on this show, because we're called America First.
	I just sent you a photograph, Eric.
	I'm going to need it by the end of this little read here before we get to our first guest, so I will call for it momentarily.
	Momentel... Momentelary?
	Momentarily.
	Seriously, put your dentures back in, Gorka.
	All right, this is America First.
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	So, do you know who Max Martini is?
	He's a great guy.
	He is one of the actors playing a Delta Special Operator from that great show, The Unit.
	And here I am with Max.
	This is before my PhD weight loss days.
	I think this was either Shot Show.
	I think this was CPAC.
	Do we have that photograph?
	All right, still getting it.
	Anyway, Max Martini, as soon as you see this photograph, you'll know who I'm talking about because he's a pretty successful Hollywood character actor.
	And Today I come in early.
	There he is, Max Martini and me, you know, Dr. G Mark I. And I come in early to the office today to do an interview for the great documentarians at Newsmax, Jack Smith and Manny Del Rio.
	And as they're leaving, the cameraman, I stop at him.
	I stop at him and I say, dude, you look a lot like Max Martini.
	And he goes, yeah, he's my brother.
	Small world, guys, you know?
	I guess there are no coincidences in life.
	Can't wait for that documentary to be out.
	Make sure you watch me every Sunday on Newsmax.
	Let's talk to somebody who didn't act being a Special Operator.
	He was a Special Operator.
	He could probably pull me out of a war zone before I lost the 42 pounds.
	Former Force Recon Warfighter.
	We are delighted to have him on the show.
	When he first came on the show, he was in Afghanistan, saving Americans and our allies and partners.
	Chad Robichaud, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you so much for having me on, Dr. Gorka, and congratulations on the weight.
	You look amazing, man.
	Thank you, dude.
	I really appreciate it.
	I feel great.
	So we have so much to discuss.
	But first things first, you've got a book, Saving Aziz, which has incredible, incredible endorsements from Glenn Beck, from the likes of Jack Carr, who is, of course, the former SEAL, the founder or the author of Terminal List.
	And he says, this book will leave you disappointed in America's leadership.
	But proud to be an American.
	Let's put this all into context, and here's a little reminder from the man who sadly bears the title Commander-in-Chief currently.
	Play cut.
	We completed one of the biggest airlifts in history, with more than 120,000 people evacuated to safety.
	That number is more than double what most experts thought were possible.
	No nation, no nation has ever done anything like it in all of history.
	The only the United States had the capacity and the will and ability to do it and we did it today.
	The extraordinary success of this mission was due to the incredible skill, bravely and selfless courage of the United States military and our diplomats, He's very proud of this incredible success, the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
	I presume as somebody who rescued thousands of people even after that speech was made, you have a slightly different take on that, Chad?
	Well, that sounds like an arsonist who burned down a house and wants congratulations for throwing a cup of water on it.
	I mean, he created a complete disaster by, you know, doing this withdrawal in the first place and then did it in such a way that cost Americans lives, left Thousands of Americans there, our allies there, including $85 billion in equipment, and created a giant hole in the world to be filled by our enemies and jeopardized the global security and national security of the United States.
	That airlift that he is bragging about, and this is no fault of our military, did get over 100,000 people out, but those people were unvetted, and we have no idea who they are, and they were flowing straight to the United States with no immigration process, and were let loose into America.
	We have no idea who these people are and where they are right now.
	And that in itself is another, you know, just add to another layer of a disaster in this which we're all.
	Now, you're busy enough as it is.
	You're a veteran.
	You run the incredible Mighty Oaks Foundation that we are honored to be associated with.
	You are busy enough.
	Why on earth did you decide to go and help people in Afghanistan if Biden was already letting 100,000 people into the country anyway?
	And who did you help, Chad?
	Well, I mean, to be honest, it started off selfishly.
	That's why the title of the book is Saving Aziz, how to mission help one turned into calling to help thousands.
	My selfish desire was to get my friend out.
	I did eight deployments with Aziz.
	He and I worked, and I worked as a singleton operator, meaning I worked by myself, to go ahead in my unit, to put them on target, to capture, kill bad guys.
	And Aziz was my teammate.
	He was my interpreter, he was my culture advisor, he was my friend.
	And we did, for continuity purposes, we did all eight deployments together.
	He saved my life multiple times.
	You ran around Afghanistan full of bad guys, alone with just your Terp?
	Yeah, I mean, my job was called AFO, Advanced Force Operator, which meant you go ahead of your unit in kind of like an undercover capacity to build a clandestine infrastructure to put the assaulting assaultive forces on target.
	And so, yes, in, you know, in doing that, Aziz was the person.
	Who kept me alive, saved my life multiple times, probably saved my life every day.
	You know, don't walk there, don't eat that, don't talk to that person.
	If you talk right now, they're going to kill us.
	And, uh, and we went and operating.
	We were, I didn't go back to base and he went home.
	I went home.
	His first, the first warm meal we got out of being after being in those mountains of Afghanistan or across the border in Pakistan was cooked by his wife, Hotra.
	I was there when his, When his oldest son Mashoud and Mashoudah, his daughter, were born and held them.
	I mean these guys are family to me and so I felt an obligation to go back and get them and not leave them to be left behind to be killed because of what they did for America.
	We'll talk about who he is and we'll talk about the book momentarily but in the minute we've got left here.
	So you went there selfishly to help Aziz and his family.
	How many people did you save in the last year and a half?
	Ultimately, from Afghanistan, we were through 17,000 people.
	In contrast to what the White House and the President is talking about, these people were, at least we knew who they were, they were SIV, P-1, P-2 visa applicants.
	Unbelievable.
	One guy with his team.
	17,000 people who he knew who they were.
	He vetted them.
	They'd worked with us.
	They'd risked their lives for us.
	Or were family members of those who'd risked their lives for us.
	Unlike those.
	And I've seen it here at Dulles Airport.
	Just dropped here into America.
	Nobody knows who they are.
	We're talking to Chad Robichaud.
	He is the author of Saving Aziz.
	You can follow him at Chad Robo.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	What was it, Paul?
	Pashto or Dar?
	What was Aziz?
	Dar is the language.
	Aziz could speak eight languages, though.
	But what tribe was he?
	What ethnicity?
	He would have been a... He would have been a Pashto, like...
	Like ethnicity there, but he didn't really subscribe to any of them to be honest with you.
	He's kind of a rebel in that sense.
	He's a freedom person.
	He's a member of the freedom tribe.
	He wanted freedom and democracy for his country before he even witnessed what it was.
	And he was willing to die for it.
	But he would have been born past you.
	Were you a wrestler?
	I'm looking at your ears.
	Were you a wrestler?
	Yeah, well, I did a lifelong 42 years on the mats of wrestling and jiu-jitsu and I did 20 professional MMA fights.
	I don't know if you knew that.
	Whoa!
	I presume you won all of them, right?
	18 of 20.
	Nice!
	Because they couldn't catch you.
	You're so little and fast.
	They can't catch you, right?
	Yeah.
	How's the book doing?
	We were in sales.
	We were number three in sales.
	Prince Harry, Michelle Obama, and I don't know what those two dudes wrote about, but we were number three in sales.
	We hit Wall Street Journal bestseller list.
	Of course, New York Times passed us over, even though we were number three in sales.
	No surprise there, but we'll keep pushing.
	Well, congratulations.
	We hit Wall Street Journal.
	We hit every list except New York Times, but we'll stick.
	Yeah, but New York Times is a con.
	That's not a real list.
	Yeah.
	Two minutes.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	We're at about 20,000 copies now.
	Nice.
	Excellent.
	What's the question, Eric?
	I was going to say, you got a title in mind for the monologue or for the professor?
	Yeah, I did have something for the professor.
	Something about one of the philosophers, maybe like Nietzsche or Strauss or... No, no, no, no, no.
	That's death for... The Founding Fathers' religion.
	Or maybe Trump's speeches.
	90 seconds.
	President Trump and the Founding Fathers.
	Yep.
	And the Mono.
	And the Mono.
	Something about the Beach House.
	The fake raid on Biden's Beach House.
	Yeah.
	Standard operating procedure.
	Right.
	All right.
	One minute.
	You always keep your TSSCI codeword documents in your garage next to the paint tins, right, Chad?
	Yeah, I always do.
	You know, the Pentagon held my book for five months, by the way, so I'm sure.
	Yeah, it's so stupid.
	They're blacking out like one word here and there.
	It's like, what the hell are you doing?
	Yeah.
	And there were things in there that were redacted that were not classified.
	They were protective of the White House.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	35 seconds. 35 seconds.
	35 seconds.
	America First.
	Magnificent.
	I don't know if I'm a curmudgeon.
	Can you be a curmudgeon if you're 52 years old?
	What do you think?
	Eric, can you be a chromagen if you're 52?
	I like to think it's a mindset that can be felt by any age, but certainly... Especially these days.
	So somebody who follows me on... This is crazy.
	You gotta watch it.
	Jeff, I need a sanity check here.
	Somebody I follow on Twitter who follows me... Watch me scroll this.
	This is 1 DM.
	Are you ready?
	Okay, can you see this?
	This is 1 DM on my dirty phone.
	Ready?
	That's like a 2,000 word DM.
	I'm not going to read it.
	I don't care if you're the smartest guy on the planet.
	Jeff, am I grumpy to not say, dude, this is too long?
	Whenever I get those texts like that, that are that long, they're usually not worth reading.
	Seriously, I mean, can you give me a sit rep, Chad, that's less than 3,000 words?
	I mean, I'm not going to read it.
	Am I being grumpy?
	No, no.
	I'm the same way.
	I get those texts and I complain.
	I look over to my wife and I'm like, how can I read this?
	I can't.
	I can't read this.
	Seriously.
	Maybe if you're my son or my wife, then I'll read it.
	But seriously, I don't know you and you're sending me too... I get more than one DM a day.
	I'm not being, you know...
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	Back to business.
	I'm not even going to have time to talk about Mighty Oaks, but we'll get Chad back, because it's an amazing organization saving veterans who are...
	Struggling with demons and who are considering suicide.
	We've got to stop that.
	Mighty Oaks is doing that.
	God bless you, Chad.
	But let's talk about your book, Saving Aziz, already number three on the bestsellers.
	Gotta ask you a kind of weird question.
	I should be asking it to Aziz, I guess.
	I went to Afghanistan in 08, and one of the things I still don't understand, and you'll be able to tell me, that you're operating by yourself with your interpreter, You can get rid of the picture.
	I'm talking now, dudes.
	Get rid of the picture, all right?
	You don't have to sit on it for minutes, okay?
	Eight missions.
	He's risking everything, but he's not even an American.
	So why would an Afghan risk everything and his family's safety, potentially, to help you, Chad?
	Can you die?
	I want people to buy the book, but give us a glimpse.
	One word, freedom.
	This guy, I remember being with him and I was so taken back by this guy's understanding.
	He would start talking to me about freedom and democracy.
	And I'm trying to process it.
	He never witnessed it before.
	He was willing to die and fight for freedom and democracy for daughters he hadn't had yet, so they could be educated, so they wouldn't be sexually enslaved, for his country to experience what we take for granted here in America.
	And he was willing to die for it.
	He had never even seen freedom before and was willing to fight and die for it.
	But he understood it in a way that I had never heard an American describe it before.
	And it really, it really, his perspective, Change me.
	It convicted me.
	When it comes to kids, can I tell you one of the, literally the saddest thing I saw in Afghanistan?
	So I was there as a civilian with visiting four or five different PRTs, different provinces.
	And they flew us on military transport to Herat, which is the basically Iranian controlled province of Afghanistan.
	And we were flying back from Herat.
	And you know the airport.
	There's the military part of the airport, and there's the civilian part of the airport.
	And there's a fence between them.
	And I saw this beautiful girl.
	She must have been maybe two and a half.
	Afghan, fully dressed in pink.
	Pink padded jacket, pink leggings, pink trainers, running around with a doll.
	Beautiful little girl.
	And then I see her go to her mother.
	And her mother's sitting against the wall of one of the little mud shacks.
	In full chador, full niqab with the grilled eye thing in a black bag.
	And I realized, oh my god, in ten years time, that little girl in the pink outfit is going to be in a black bag and she's going to be a slave of, you know, a guy with, you know, three other wives.
	It just so depressed me, Chad.
	Well, and right now, I think the world needs to know, and I'm using this book as a platform, Aziz and I both are, to let the world know that right now, 20 million Afghan women and little girls are back in those bags, sexually enslaved for the rest of their lives because of decisions that were made in our White House.
	And it's not okay, and we need to be speaking up for it.
	These women have lost all human rights because of our decisions.
	Because of feckless cowardice in the White House.
	This is wrong.
	We only just got started.
	We're out of time.
	Can we do an hour with you next week, Chad?
	I'd love that.
	I'd love that.
	And by the way, Aziz is always available as well.
	He lives here in Texas.
	Let's do it.
	Let's get both of you next week for an hour.
	Deal?
	Deal.
	I'm in.
	All right.
	Semper Fidelis, buddy.
	All right.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	Semper Fi.
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	You can kick the mics on, Alex.
	Oh, okay.
	You can leave the mics on.
	Shouldn't we try to get Roboshaw on for Manhood at some point?
	Def?
	Yes, sir?
	Hey, buddy, that was superb.
	Sorry it was so short.
	So let's get you and Aziz on next week.
	In the meantime, can you email me or Jeff some photographs of you in action?
	Because I'll get some of mine from Afghanistan.
	It'd be fun for the hour.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I can definitely do that.
	Good.
	And we'll get them all emailed over to you.
	And I don't know, I'm not sure which Yeah, we'll work it out.
	We'll work it out.
	Alright.
	Awesome, buddy.
	Talk to you next week.
	Bye.
	Consumer research here.
	All right.
	Oh, we've got calls.
	- It's D. - And, oh D, blimey.
	What's the shortest one of the presidents?
	Of the president?
	That's cut four.
	It's 29 seconds.
	All right.
	Come in with cut four.
	Come in with cut four.
	No liner, Alex.
	Got a title in mind for Chad?
	One minute.
	He risked his life eight times over for me and America.
	Oh.
	All right, Jeff.
	Yeah?
	Mitchell says the guy is...
	...and he's a good one.
	...and he's a good one.
	I will declare that any hospital or healthcare provider that participates in the chemical or physical mutilation of minor youth will no longer meet federal health and safety standards for Medicaid and Medicare and will be terminated from the program immediately.
	Furthermore, I will support the creation of a private right of action for victims to sue doctors who have unforgivably performed these procedures on minor children.
	God bless President Trump.
	He's declaring war on the transgender child abusers and mutilators.
	That's just a little clip from his latest video.
	We'll be playing selections from it all through the day because it is powerful stuff.
	He is back on the warpath and it is glorious to see.
	This extremism, the ideology, the wokeness hasn't just permeated our schools and media.
	It's now permeating private institutions, ones that you have given money to, to manage your retirement companies, investment firms like BlackRock.
	They are using the Marxist concept of ESG to inject ideology into your investments.
	We've got to stop them.
	They can't play politics with your pensions.
	There's one organization that's been fighting for consumer rights and against consumer abuse for decades.
	It's called consumersresearch.org.
	Now they're fighting to protect your pension funds.
	Find out how serious the situation is and what you can do about it at consumersresearch.org.
	That's consumersresearch.org.
	All right, before we go to your course, I have to share.
	A member of our broader Salem family has texted me, who's listening to the show, saying, in addition to the 3,000 word DMs, what about the multi-page letters written by hand?
	Do they really think my husband is going to take the time to struggle through them and reply to them?
	That makes me feel much better.
	That means I'm not the only person who gets Very strange people sending me very strange letters.
	I love our listeners.
	I love when Antoinette sends us gifts even if they're not real cigars but they're chocolate cigars.
	We love you!
	But seriously when you're sitting at home writing a six, seven page handwritten letter and you're going into Strange conspiracy theories.
	I love the ones that the guy, I haven't even mentioned this, a guy sent me a box, a box of books from his printing house that was attacking the Vatican and all Catholics as the center of evil in the world.
	Dude, you may want to look me up on a thing called Google, even if you don't like Google.
	Look me up on DuckDuckGo.
	I'm a cradle Catholic.
	You may not want to be sending me a box of books about how Catholics are evil.
	Do a little bit of research, because I just put the books in the recycle bin.
	All right, let's go to your calls.
	Ray in Livermore!
	Hey, buddy!
	Yes, Dr. G. The great Rush Limbaugh taught us, uh, brevity is the soul of wit.
	Yes!
	And, uh, I believe that's Shakespeare.
	But, uh, I recommend Strunk and White's The Elements of Style.
	My wife swears by Strunk and White, and she is a literature major, by the way.
	Yeah.
	If you can cut it out, cut it out.
	So I'm gonna cut it out and get right to it.
	As a self-appointed ombudsman and self-promoted caller at large, I have to remind you, I called about three weeks ago or more and asked the question, who's taking out Biden?
	And it was poo-pooed.
	I would never do that to Ray.
	I think you're confusing me with the other Sebastian Gorka with a national show.
	I would never poo-poo Ray.
	I recognize the funny accent.
	Now, Mr. G said that they were trying to get ahead of it.
	And that's very good, because they are trying to do that.
	But I know what's really going on.
	Standing in the tall grass, I have an idea what's going on.
	They're clearing the decks for the ultimate dim dream ticket, Harris Fetterman.
	The dumb and dumber ticket.
	Yes.
	Because you can't attack these two, okay?
	If you go after her, you're a racist.
	If you go after him, you're an ableist.
	Hang on, hang on.
	What about the cackler with boot-edge age?
	Because then you can't go after a homosexual man.
	Yeah, see, he's got protection also.
	We might call them a sort of Marvel superpower.
	You cannot criticize them, lest you be antiphobist.
	Right.
	But seriously, I've got to ask you, Ray, whether you are crouching or standing in the tall grass.
	Really?
	You really think they're going to let the cackler be the person for 2024?
	You know, I see that there's a number of different tribes forming here.
	There's the Harris tribe.
	There's the Biden tribe.
	There's the Clinton tribe.
	Don't give them up.
	She has not gone away.
	Oh, I agree.
	I agree.
	She is not going to go quietly into the sunset.
	That's for sure.
	There's the Pelosi tribe who wants to get Gavin Newsom in, and then there's the invisible hand that seems to be running things right now, this cabal, whoever they are, who I think will be the Buttigieg tribe.
	So, it's going to be interesting watching the Warring Tribes as we... It's going to be fun.
	I'm buying shares in popcorn.
	Thank you, Ray.
	He called it because he is our long-range reconnaissance patrolman in the long grass.
	Thank you, Ray.
	Let's go to our other good buddy in Los Angeles, Brent.
	Welcome, Brent.
	Hello, great documentary promoter, Gorka.
	Thank you.
	One of my additional titles.
	What brings you to our little show today?
	Well, I wanted to get you in on the ground floor to help promote an important new political documentary, which the David Horowitz Freedom Center with Victor David Hanson premiered last night in Santa Monica, California.
	It's called Civilization in the Danger Zone by the brilliant, sweet and humble film producer Gloria Greenfeld.
	And just some of the contributors in it are Victor David Hanson, Heather MacDonald, Hillsdale's Larry Arnn, Frank Gaffney, Michael Medved, Ruth Wise, Peter Wood, Mark Tapson, Carol Swank.
	Are you getting paid to do this?
	Are you reading off a promo sheet, Brent?
	I'm looking at their DVD that I bought.
	So it's really, you've seen it and it's really good, you recommend it to our listeners?
	It's outstanding and it's fundamental.
	It's about civilization, how we're being undermined and how to reconnect to Western civilization.
	It really is a very moving video, and it's only an hour long, but it makes you feel when you get out of it after it's been like three hours.
	How did you find out about it?
	Because I haven't heard of this documentary, Brent.
	Well, I'm connected with the David Horowitz Freedom Center, and so I got the advertisement.
	So it's their product?
	It's David's product?
	No, I think they helped her, but they're not bringing it out.
	They're just premiering it, and it's new.
	This follows her last brilliant documentary, I don't know if you've heard of that, called The Fight of Our Lives, Defeating the Ideological War Against the West.
	No, I'm going to check both of these, though.
	The Fight of Our Lives and Civilization in the Danger Zone.
	Perfect!
	Thank you, my friend!
	Something to watch when I'm not busy doing our Making Movies Great Again.
	And by the way, You mentioned Hillsdale.
	We love Professor Victor Davis Hanson who gives a guest lecture there.
	We have an amazing guest for an hour tomorrow here on America First from Hillsdale's College.
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	I'm so excited.
	Hey, is your account still private?
	Twitter?
	Yeah, why?
	Someone's called, they said they can't follow you.
	You have to request a follow at that point, right?
	You have to request a follow, yeah.
	I keep hearing people are doing that because it helps with shadow boosting or something?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Allegedly.
	I'm just doing a 24-hour test.
	We haven't even talked about Nikki Haley yet on the show.
	We haven't?
	No, wait, not today.
	Yeah, I did.
	You started off with a beach house raid.
	But I mentioned Hogan and- In the tease.
	In the tease?
	In the tease, yeah.
	Well, we haven't done it on the show yet.
	If you see what I've been recognized nationally as being somebody, it would be different, it would be a leader.
	It would be somebody like a Paul Ryan very quickly.
	Oh, nice.
	I heard about that.
	So he likes Paul Ryan, that's hilarious.
	Womp womp.
	That was before Trump started.
	You know, the surrogates the last week, I've noticed, are getting angrier and angrier at Trump.
	Which is also why I think Trump's been doing well the last month.
	You can tell they're starting to lash out a lot more and harder.
	Because Trump's doing well.
	Right, and because the polls don't support them.
	So great.
	30 seconds.
	You enjoy Schadenfreude, don't you, Eric?
	Well, like I said, I love a good primary battle.
	It's entertaining to me.
	I think there's a little bit more than that.
	It's better.
	It'll make Trump better, too.
	That is true.
	Sharpen the wit.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	15 seconds.
	A man.
	A legend.
	A legal immigrant.
	Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Yes, a legal immigrant to these United States.
	By the way, I need some technical assistance to the three million people out there.
	There's got to be a geek out there.
	Maybe there's somebody on my team.
	Maybe I should have asked them.
	Although, let's have some fun with you guys.
	I've been told That to assist in undermining the shadow banning that they left in place before Elon Musk bought Twitter, if you put your Twitter account to private that only your followers can interact with your tweets, you get a deal more engagement.
	I put my account on private last night.
	I seem to be getting more engagement.
	Can somebody explain to me why?
	Why does setting your account to private actually make a difference?
	Call in.
	Unlock the phones.
	I want to hear only on this issue.
	Call in and convince Jeff that you know what you're talking about.
	In the meantime, let's have some fun!
	Larry Hogan, one of the biggest rhinos in all ways out there, is very serious about his future project.
	Cut eight.
	There's talk that you will be among those candidates.
	Is that true?
	Well, I'm certainly giving it very serious consideration.
	We've been really successful 30 miles outside of Washington, where everything appears to be broken and nothing but divisiveness and dysfunction.
	I'm in one of the bluest states in the country with a 70% progressive legislature, and I got them to cut taxes eight years in a row by $4.8 billion, and I had the biggest economic turnaround in America, so we're taking a close look at it.
	Yeah, Jeff, are you impressed that Larry Hogan is taking a close look at running for president?
	You know, I live in Maryland.
	Yeah, that's why I'm asking!
	And every Republican that's kind of the anti-Trump, I ask them about Larry Hogan.
	I ask what he has done.
	I say he's been governor for eight years, and people literally have nothing to say.
	I can't even tell you what he's done, and I live there.
	What about, are you excited that Nikki Haley has tweeted that on the 15th she's going to make a big announcement, Jeff?
	Um, not really, because I don't think it matters at all.
	These people are delusional.
	What's the phrase in Hungarian?
	If they jumped off their ego onto their IQ, they'd commit suicide.
	Seriously, guys.
	These egos are out of control.
	From Pence onwards, to Haley, to Hogan, to John Bolton!
	And where does he announce it?
	He announces it, oh, on British television.
	How perverse.
	Why British television?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	Alright, if you understand about Twitter private settings and shadow banning, give us a call!
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	Mike Lindell was on Jimmy Kimmel last night.
	Did you see it?
	What was his big announcement?
	Well, guess what?
	Mr. Pillow, the friend of the president.
	You know, the real one.
	President Trump will be with us.
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	Do you hear anything?
	Can you hear me?
	Hello?
	Hey, Jen.
	Hi!
	Looks okay.
	Are you guys ready for my video call?
	Because it looks pink.
	Hi!
	We just called Skype, but it looks pink and wavy.
	I don't know if that's Oh, it says connecting.
	There it is.
	Hey!
	Oh, pardon.
	Pardon me while I retch.
	I fully support that all out brawl that that's going to be because on the other flip side, we don't have any Republicans who are going to run.
	Like seriously.
	Eric Gurley wants to run.
	Oh, OK.
	But you know who would be – can I just – are we broadcasting to the phone lines?
	It's on Rumble right now, yeah.
	Would you rather have the mic on?
	You know what, Rumble?
	I'll tell you.
	I think Larry Elder should run for Senate.
	That's what I think.
	I'll tell you that.
	I think that'd be great.
	Wouldn't that be nice?
	He is the best candidate, I think.
	I don't think he will because he has other interests at the moment, but I do think that would be really cool if he did.
	I think he has a lot of money and a lot of interest and a lot of name recognition and it would be great.
	I'm just a real challenge.
	One person we know who will not be running and will probably won't run ever again, thanks to our friend Larry, is Kevin Falconer.
	Kevin, exactly.
	He's gone.
	Larry stepped on him and didn't even scrape him.
	Squished him.
	I know.
	God bless Larry just for that alone.
	Thank God.
	Get rid of him.
	The GOP was trying to astroturf Falconer there like crazy.
	They loved.
	Yeah, they loved him.
	80 seconds.
	All right.
	Look with my new short hair.
	Oh my gosh.
	Is it too much?
	Did we give you permission to do that?
	Well, it's going to grow fast.
	I did not get permission, but it is going to grow fast.
	I always tell my wife, do you have permission?
	Do you have permission to cut your hair?
	And she's like, no, it's not too short.
	She had really long hair when she was pregnant and I loved it.
	I love long hair.
	I just wanted to get like a fresh start.
	But then you have to look like Carmen Miranda when you get out of the shower.
	You have to have that towel on your head.
	Oh, I do.
	Are you kidding?
	Why do women do that?
	Because it dries your hair faster.
	Sucks in more water.
	Are we ready to have fun?
	I'm ready to have fun.
	And I don't know if Jeff showed you, but I've got a top secret letter.
	I know, I know.
	We're going to discuss it, but I want to talk big national stuff first.
	Oh, yeah, and I loved that Newsome clip he sent to about sobriety.
	How crazy is he?
	All right, let's have fun.
	Let's do it.
	Let's do it.
	I'm ready.
	Let's do it.
	Making sense out of today's nonsense.
	Here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	That's what we try every single day.
	And we have to enlist assistance from a place that is full of nonsense.
	Every time I talk to her, I say, when are they going to wake up?
	When are they going to do something about it?
	She is our West Coast warrior princess.
	She's Jennifer Horne.
	You've got to follow her.
	Host of The Morning Answer in Los Angeles, who always somehow manages, when I'm on her show, to get me to break news on her show.
	That really drives Jeff insane.
	He always says, can't you break news on your own show first?
	Well, guess what?
	I'm going to break news with you about you on my show.
	Are you ready?
	Wait.
	I'm ready for this.
	Let's go.
	I don't even know this.
	Of course you don't, because I'm breaking it.
	Nobody knows except my wife and a few people at Salem.
	OK.
	We went to Israel.
	Yeah.
	In December.
	We had a great time.
	We're like 350 listeners.
	And we're planning the next trip in 2024.
	We're not going to Israel.
	And we're not going with Dinesh.
	Okay.
	But maybe my wife and I, with the help of somebody else, Dan, you know who you are, wink wink.
	I think we have convinced the high and the mighties in Camarillo that the person coming with us to this undisclosed location with hundreds of artists should be one Jennifer Horne.
	Come on!
	Are you serious?
	I'm so in.
	I don't know where we're going.
	You don't know when and you don't know where, but you're in.
	This is, you know, next week's my birthday.
	This is my birthday gift.
	You see?
	It was all fast.
	I love this!
	How about that?
	Alright!
	So this is big news.
	I'll give you one clue.
	I'll give you one clue.
	One clue.
	The Eternal City.
	The Eternal City?
	Yeah.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Is anybody cultured on my team here?
	Do you know what the Eternal City is?
	No.
	Clearly, I am surrounded by a bunch of bloody Philistines.
	Okay, the listeners who know... We're going to Rome.
	Ah!
	Somebody whispered in your ear!
	No!
	Nobody said anything.
	I said Rome.
	Is that right?
	Yes.
	Are you serious?
	Have you been before?
	Of course you have.
	All right.
	I've only been once before.
	Oh my gosh.
	You're telling me.
	And this is no joke.
	We're going to take listeners to Rome.
	And you really think you got me invited on this?
	Spring 2024.
	We're going to make sure the dates work with your calendar.
	We are going to Rome with hundreds of you, dear listeners.
	I love this.
	And we said, we just love Jen.
	We've got to travel with Jen.
	I love it.
	Thank you for that.
	That's so awesome.
	And do you know how much time we have?
	Did I catch you on a whiz there?
	Did I catch you on a whiz?
	I had no idea.
	I had no idea.
	No one tells me anything.
	But you know I'll pack.
	I'll have my bags ready to go.
	Off to Rome.
	Make it sparkly.
	Make it sparkly.
	That's the only way to travel.
	Please.
	I'll bring you some sparkles too.
	Oh, I love this news!
	How fun!
	TMI.
	All right, let's get back to work.
	We've got so much to discuss.
	You've got a secret letter from one Karen Bass.
	We'll save that for the California segment.
	Let's talk about national news.
	Oh, first things first.
	Nikki Haley, Larry Hogan, John Bolton.
	Are these people just clinically insane?
	I want what they're having, actually.
	Especially Larry Hogan and John Bolton.
	Nikki, okay.
	I mean, she did the ambassador.
	She was good.
	Okay.
	But Larry Hogan and John Bolton, and I'm going to put Nikki in here.
	You got to have the it factor, kids.
	And it's just, it's not there.
	Not for any of you.
	And I feel sad about that.
	So here's your seasoned political take.
	So Jeff cynical.
	thing that he is, he says, which is kind of true, he says people who have no shot at all do this because they can rake in millions of dollars and then also name recognition, brand building, and if they're lucky, they'll leverage maybe if they're and if they're lucky, they'll leverage maybe if they're in good graces, a cabinet position or an ambassadorship out of the winner.
	But for me, it's like, these people are delusional egotists.
	I mean, look, John Bolton, you are on Hunter Biden's crack pipe if you think anybody except you and your grandmother are going to vote for you.
	It's true.
	And the sad thing about John Bolton is that, first of all, the personality is missing.
	And he, when he was talking about this, said, I may just have to jump in like he's some sort of savior in a superhero cape.
	You're John Bolton.
	And by the way, the people that liked you because you were pretty good on foreign policy, they've turned on you.
	Who is going to vote for John Bolton?
	You're right.
	Only maybe his family members and then maybe not so sure.
	Larry Hogan, also unlikable.
	Maybe the people in his state may vote for him.
	I think I would add one more category, and I think Trump is really good at this.
	When people dreamt out of 2016, President Trump brought a lot of great people with him, including great people that I really like, like Ben Carson, who had that cabinet position.
	I think a lot of people, and in Nikki Haley's case maybe, they're volleying for this vice presidential position.
	Yes.
	But if you notice, as the rumblings have started, she said she called Donald Trump.
	She called him and talked to him.
	That at least shows respect.
	You're not going to get that from Hogan and you're not going to get that from Bolton.
	At least she called him.
	And of course, anybody who thinks they can and wants to jump in, can.
	That's what President Trump said.
	If it's in your heart.
	But in my mind, I think she'd like to be his number two.
	I think she thinks she could add to his ticket.
	And I don't know if that's the best combination for me.
	It strikes me as flat.
	Unfortunately, I think Nikki Haley all along has struck me as kind of flat.
	I love Carrie Lake.
	I love some of these dynamic women.
	I think it would be nice to see a woman on the ticket with President Trump.
	But I also have been really liking Mike Pompeo lately.
	And I know he's going to jump in.
	I heard this from other people.
	Why is it?
	Because if there's somebody who doesn't have the Q factor, it's Mike.
	I mean, I liked Mike until the swamp totally ate him up and spat him out at the State Department.
	But does he have the it factor?
	I don't know if he has the it factor.
	I really think of all the candidates, President Trump has your it factor.
	I mean, that's the one.
	That's going to be my candidate.
	But as we're looking for this number two position, One thing that I like about Pompeo is he has a really good understanding and I think he lines up really well with President Trump on Middle East policy, on our relationship with Israel, on the fact that China needs to be taken very seriously.
	I feel like in many ways from a foreign policy perspective because I think that's what we need someone who can focus on both domestic and foreign policy issues.
	We're going to have our lunch eaten in a couple of years by China if we don't have someone who is strong like President Trump and who has that knowledge like a Mike Pompeo, I think, to help us out.
	So I would hope that whether how this all plays out, I would like to see Donald Trump be in the White House.
	I would hope he would use maybe Pompeo again, because I think he's probably pretty smart at that.
	But you know, you never know.
	You never know how people are going to react when they themselves want something so bad.
	The ego is so powerful.
	So we'll see how it all plays out.
	But I got to ask you, is there anybody, if you're looking to complete a ticket for Trump, is there anybody that you can think of that just makes sure, like, gets you all ginned up and ready to go?
	I know.
	Isn't that funny?
	You know, my buddies that are regulars on the show like Joe DiGenova and Victoria Townsend, but at a cabinet level, no.
	Let's talk about the frontrunner.
	We'll talk about California a second, but the president dropped this incredible policy, flaming policy speech about transgenderism.
	Yes, loved it.
	Gotta play a longer cut because he is on fire.
	And this is his declaration of war on those doctors who are now, right now as we sit here, mutilating children across America.
	This is cut three, play cut.
	The left-wing gender insanity being pushed on our children is an act of child abuse.
	Very simple.
	Here's my plan to stop the chemical, physical, and emotional mutilation of our youth.
	On day one, I will revoke Joe Biden's cruel policies on so-called gender-affirming care.
	Ridiculous.
	A process that includes giving kids puberty blockers, mutating their physical appearance, and ultimately performing surgery on minor children.
	Can you believe this?
	I will sign a new executive order instructing every federal agency to cease all programs that promote the concept of sex and gender transition at any age.
	I will then ask Congress to permanently stop federal taxpayer dollars from being used to promote or pay for these procedures and pass a law prohibiting child sexual mutilation in all 50 states.
	It'll go very quickly.
	Take a former president to make that announcement.
	That should be every person in a position of responsibility in America should be saying what he's saying, Jennifer.
	One thousand percent.
	And I will tell you, this is why you would have to pry me away from being able to vote for him again in 2024.
	Because he talks about the hard stuff, Seb.
	This is what drew me to him in 2016.
	I was one of the only ones walking around our radio station in Los Angeles.
	I had people looking at me like I was a nut because I saw this in him.
	That he would talk about things that Republicans were afraid to talk about.
	At that moment, it happened to be about immigration and about building the wall and about protecting America's interests first.
	That resonated with me.
	It resonated with the country, obviously.
	I think this is the message.
	Parents are so upset, whether they are Republican or Democrat.
	People of faith, people in the middle, know that you're messing with our kids and this is brutalizing them.
	Also, perfectly sets up a run, in case Joe Biden is not the candidate and Gavin Newsom is, for what he has done in California to set up a sanctuary for this kind of behavior.
	We'll talk about it.
	It's a matchup.
	We've got to play a clip from Newsom in the next segment.
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	Italianate ambush.
	Awesome.
	How did you do that?
	That's so cool!
	Because we were supposed to go back to Israel and I said okay then Dinesh said he wants to do something that's super theological and invite Eric and I said And that's not my bag.
	Let's go somewhere else.
	Katie and I love Italy.
	We have got lots of connections in Rome.
	Lots of Catholic connections.
	And we thought, we just love Jen.
	We needed somebody to go with.
	That would be so fun.
	And then I worked Phil.
	I worked Phil hard.
	And then, between you and me, Dan Nelson, you've got to say a big thank you to.
	He's the one that brought Phil on to say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's fantastic.
	I don't think I know Dan.
	He's responsible.
	He's our new vice president responsible for all of that.
	He just got the promotion.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Oh, that's so cool.
	I will say a big thank you.
	Are you coming out next week for the, um, for the management thing?
	No.
	Um, and then, so I think right now we're looking cause the guy from, um, in, uh, the, the, the cruise company that's amazing, uh, is busy until the 12th.
	So I think it would be after May 12th or second half of May in 2024.
	Awesome.
	I would love it.
	Thank you so much.
	It's going to be a week in Rome.
	Thank you for fighting for that.
	And then we're going to go to Siena.
	Oh my gosh.
	Come on.
	Okay.
	This is exciting.
	And I would love, I mean, to go to the Vatican and do all, oh my gosh.
	Oh, we are so plugged in.
	We're going to get to the Scar V underneath St.
	Peter's tomb.
	It's going to be amazing.
	Okay, I love all this.
	And the good thing is, is that I think we share so many listeners because we have so much in common ideologically.
	I think it's going to be really good.
	And people love you.
	I mean, people so love you in LA that I think you'll get a lot of listeners.
	So fun.
	How exciting is that?
	Thank you.
	I'll have to thank Dan.
	That's great.
	Always looking out for you, my dear.
	You are the best.
	Thank you very much.
	It's what we do.
	I'm sending you another image for this Sagamunt, Mr. Eric.
	Yep.
	So we'll talk cat and bass.
	Jen, you look very serious.
	Oh, I was just reading a text message.
	Are you all right?
	Oh, how funny.
	Yeah.
	Actually, it was just a funny thing.
	Are we still on?
	Are we still together?
	Hi, Leland.
	Leland just loves you and loves me and is a friend of my dad's lovely lady friend, Cynthia.
	Yes.
	And so he was saying that Carrie Lake gives him the goosies, and it made me laugh.
	The goosies?
	I don't know what that means, Leland.
	So if you're listening, you're going to have to give us more.
	What am I doing here?
	Can you come in with... Cut.
	Where is it?
	Oh, 11.
	Cut 11, no liner.
	We're gonna play you some Joe Scarborough and Mika.
	Oh, I love them.
	You know, I loved listening to that all week long.
	I just love to get in my car first thing in the morning and I turn them on and I listen to her almost in tears just talking about everything that bothers her in the world.
	It is, it makes my whole day.
	The idea that he was a Republican congressman.
	He never was a Republican congressman.
	He's the one who had an intern die in his office.
	Yeah, Trump made fun of him for it on the campaign trail in 60s.
	It was the vaccine.
	Before COVID, right?
	Before COVID.
	Coming in with Cut 11.
	And you want to use Cut 2 in this segment at some point?
	point uh yes definitely so so but there
	is he's here if if indeed he had a staffer pay this money to protect his reputation we're told from lawyers that he could if convicted that could be four years in prison I've got to just say.
	He just added to the case.
	The question is, again, the question is, why has it taken this long?
	And this is the whole thing about their, well, I guess... I guess he was president.
	Yeah, I can't be charged.
	But it's been two years since he was president.
	I mean, and the Manhattan DA dragging their feet, prosecutors quitting because they're afraid of Donald Trump.
	President Trump is going to prison because of Stormy Daniels.
	I mean, seriously, Jennifer, Mika and Joe, they are just deranged, are they not?
	Absolutely living in an alternate universe.
	And I love how she says, what a dum-dum.
	Let's talk about dum-dums.
	How about the Biden family?
	How about maybe stop leaving your laptop?
	How about Mika?
	How about Mika?
	Mika calling anybody dumb.
	I mean, has she made triple digits on her IQ test?
	I need to know.
	We've got to make sure we get over the shoe size, you know?
	That's one of the goals with that IQ.
	Right.
	We've got to talk California.
	We've got to talk Karen Bass.
	You've got us this inside scoop.
	But first, a caller called in from California yesterday.
	I didn't have the context.
	I didn't believe it.
	I said, we're going to look into it.
	It's true.
	Gavin Newsom said, people getting off drugs is a bad thing.
	I'm not joking.
	He says, clean and sober is the biggest mistake we made.
	Not a deepfake.
	Real.
	Cut to.
	Play cut.
	Clean and sober is one of the biggest damn mistakes this country's ever made.
	I know it's a hold-your-hand idealistic point of view that somehow magically... I mean, God bless some of you.
	If you're like me, I've been known to have a glass of wine at night watching some of the nightly news.
	We all need to self-medicate periodically.
	So you're a guy who's, you know, just given up.
	You know, you're clean and you hear the governor say, we need to self-medicate and clean and sober is the biggest mistake.
	Is this guy utterly soulless, Jen?
	Well, he is.
	And he also is a wine salesman.
	So he's obviously wanting to keep people invested in his business.
	And you have to be half cocked sometimes to live in California because it is he's created such a disaster.
	But I thought this was fake, too.
	You know, I'm usually pretty dialed in on all the weird stuff that the local politicians say.
	When I got this from producer Jeff, I went and looked around and this is absolutely real.
	And I think he was doing it in context with something going on with the homeless mob.
	My goodness, if you want to tell people you drink wine at night, say clean and sober is great if that's the path that you need to be on.
	That is a great path for you.
	You know, I've been known to enjoy a glass of wine, but instead he says that everybody needs to self-medicate from time to time.
	How irresponsible, how evil, how soulless for people who are struggling.
	Literally, if I walked out of my office right now, out of this studio, In a half a block, I could find someone who is probably either has overdosed or is close to overdosing right around the corner.
	Right.
	He should not be glib about this.
	And I say it with a smile, but it's true.
	He, you know, he's a wine salesperson, so of course he loves to use people's weaknesses against them, I'm sure.
	But it really, I mean, that just, what is it?
	It's a 15 second cut.
	That tells you more about Gavin Newsom than anything else.
	You've got this breaking story.
	Put the image up on the screen, this letter involving Karen Bass.
	I just want to know, can I get a letterhead like the City of Los Angeles?
	It's kind of cool, isn't it?
	That is a cool letterhead.
	It looks very official.
	It's blue, City of Los Angeles.
	It's got the city seal on it.
	And a friend of mine sent it to me today.
	There's been And we, you and I have talked about this week after week, the disappointing job that Chief Michael Moore has been doing with the LAPD.
	He has gone woke, but he's still not woke enough for the Karen Bass crowd.
	We, just a couple of weeks ago, had the death in, well after police custody, after he was arrested, of Kenan Anderson, who happens to be the cousin of the co-founder of Black Lives Matter.
	Yeah.
	And so there was calls for Michael Moore to be either to resign or to not be allowed to run for a second term.
	Well, the police commissioners all got together.
	They gave him a unanimous vote.
	And so it went to Karen Bass's desk, and she got to decide whether or not Michael Moore— You mean a unanimous vote of support?
	Yes, so the police commission first votes on the police chief, and then they send their recommendation to Karen Bass, who has to sign off on it as the mayor of Los Angeles, to rehire Michael Moore for another five-year term.
	So they signed off on him yesterday.
	They did their vote.
	They unanimously gave him support.
	They sent that information to Karen Bass.
	Karen Bass, and this is embarrassing if you're Michael Moore, it shows the puppet that he is.
	This is the police chief who fired officers for not taking the COVID vaccine, who knelt with protesters when they were protesting in 2020 and 2021, and now Karen Bass has said, I will rehire Michael Moore for five years if he does the following and literally set up bullet points in this letter of what Michael Moore agreed to So that he could keep his job for another five years.
	And there are ones that I would agree with, too.
	Simple bullet points like reduce crime, because that is the job of the police department and the police chief.
	But then there are others.
	There are others that include investigating the use of tasers and making sure that they are minimally used.
	in the field.
	Already, police officers' hands are tied.
	You can't deploy your firearms.
	So now they have a taser to defend themselves.
	What next if they're going to feel like they can't use that?
	They also want to put social workers, alternative forms of policing out in the field, which include social workers, to show up to domestic disturbances, I'm sure, to traffic stops, all of these things that Black Lives Matter have called for over the past several months and years.
	And they want to bring more civilian roles and oversight into the police department.
	She also adds, like, the final insult is that all of this will be passed through with much oversight directly from her and her office.
	They also want to set up community policing departments in her office so that Karen Bass can have access over this police chief anytime she wants it.
	So why have a police chief?
	I mean, this letter means, why have a police chief?
	Because you need an empty suit, who this, unfortunately, this guy, the days of Bill Bratton are gone in Los Angeles.
	The days of prioritizing victims and taxpayers over criminals, gone.
	They want to bring out social workers.
	They want to hire, this is my favorite, police.
	They want to hire recruits that are reform-minded.
	That was actually in the letter.
	So you're talking about now lowering standards.
	You're talking about bringing officers that are going to come in already with this woke mentality.
	Anybody who is a good standing member of the LAPD is going to run for the hills and we're going to be left with not the best of the best anymore, probably the worst of the worst.
	And that's exactly what they saw in Memphis.
	That's what we're going to see in Los Angeles as we continue to tie the hands of our law enforcement and put Karen Bass in charge of things.
	All right, you need to put that letter at the top of your Twitter feed.
	It is at Jennifer Horn.
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	What'd he do this time?
	Can you believe what he just proposed?
	What?
	It's the dumbest.
	He wants to permanently end taxes on gas stoves.
	That is a clownish act.
	I know.
	He's just reacting.
	Clownish.
	Cl Fed.
	Just in time for tax season.
	Rate hike.
	The heck is this?
	News.
	Wow!
	Another quarter percent!
	Whoa.
	Oh boy.
	They'll spin that as a win because it had been .75 each time.
	Yeah, right.
	I got a title for Jen.
	President Trump -- did we do that already?
	About the people running against him?
	No, no.
	Did we do any transgender and DJT today?
	No, not yet.
	President Trump declares war on the transgender... Agenda?
	No, the transgender... Child abuse?
	Child abusers.
	Yeah, transgender child abusers.
	So good.
	So good.
	That's why they want to stop him.
	He means business this time.
	He always does, but he means business even more so now than he did before.
	Am I doing media today?
	Uh, Spicer, uh, no, not tonight.
	Nothing tonight?
	Uh, no, not tonight.
	I got that text a little while ago.
	Spicer tomorrow?
	Uh, no.
	You've got War Room tomorrow and then Bowling Friday.
	So no Spicer?
	No.
	Oh, good.
	So I'm free today?
	Uh, yes you are.
	Crazy.
	Walt's kingdom here.
	Oh, thank you.
	That was like... How is that not news?
	The Fed?
	It's par for the course at this point.
	Wow.
	Well, like Geoff said, it's less than usual.
	It doesn't matter.
	I mean, any raise should be news.
	What do you think, Geoff?
	As to why, like, no one's talking about it?
	I'm surprised that they didn't hint at it before, I know.
	Right?
	Nobody's explaining Twitter private to me?
	What are we, listened to by a bunch of Luddites?
	How can I have young people in my team who know nothing about technology?
	Because nobody knew about Twitter private until yesterday.
	No, but in general!
	I mean, you're not exactly social media mavens, are you?
	What about that guy in Florida?
	The guy who does our socials?
	Well, I'll bug him, but how about somebody actually within 20 feet of my microphone who actually knows something about social media?
	I mean, this is the 21st century.
	I mean, how old are you, Eric?
	How old are you, Guy?
	28.
	How old are you, Guy?
	Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
	America first.
	How old are you, Jeff?
	40.
	40.
	Oh, yeah, you just turned 40.
	You are officially an old bar steward.
	So we've got a team that is 40, 41, 33, 28, 31.
	I'm the oldest, and none of you know anything about social media.
	It's embarrassing.
	Seriously.
	Who's the youngest one?
	Who's the youngest one?
	That's me.
	Eric.
	Seriously, you were born old.
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	Dale, welcome to America First.
	Thanks for taking my call, Seb.
	Sure.
	I may have some insights on what's going on here in California, you know, Gavin Newsom's statement and stuff like that.
	And I'd like to take an illustration from, like, you know, 16th, 17th century sailing ships, you know, the three-masted ships.
	Yep.
	And the rule of law on those ships and how they govern those ships, it's a fascinating study.
	I read too much and that's dangerous, I know.
	There is no such thing as reading too much, Dale, unless you're reading left-wing garbage, but carry on.
	So, when they set sail, they had huge supplies of booze for the crew.
	And if they get trapped in the doldrums or whatnot, you know, they just started upping the rations of booze for the crew.
	And on the crew, usually the officers, it was like three to one, crew versus officers, An officer were the only ones armed.
	Right.
	And you had to keep the crew inebriated somewhat to keep them subdued.
	Tot of Ram.
	You had your daily Tot of Ram in the Royal Navy.
	Yes.
	And if the fit hit the shan, your rations of rum went up.
	If the fit hit the shan.
	I like that.
	We've got to remember that, Jeff.
	Note that one.
	Yes, the daily ration increased.
	So you've got to get to the point because you've got other callers.
	What's the point, Dale?
	OK, so here we are in California, Seb, with these ultra-liberal drug laws and Newsom, you know, talking about sobriety, you know, not being a good thing.
	They're trying to keep the crew inebriated, Seb.
	That's my point.
	Yeah, I kind of get it, but I'm not sure.
	I'm not sure if that will have an effect on the people.
	Yeah, maybe, maybe.
	Do you think people will change their behavior because of what he said or do you think he's just trapped in his kind of ideological world?
	I think he's just letting the cat out of the bag.
	Interesting.
	Dale, I think he doesn't give a rat's patootie for anybody else who's not in his elite circle.
	That's what I think.
	Well, that's true.
	That's absolutely true.
	All right.
	I appreciate it.
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	Well, of course, as my buddy Chris Plant says, talking the truth.
	Talking the truth will get you in trouble first, especially in Washington D.C.
	And then the other thing is, the thing that really puts the crosshairs on your back and on your front, is if you talk about God, the Bible, and prayer.
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	Mike Lindell!
	Welcome back to America First!
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	I've been traveling, so you'll have to excuse my camera.
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	You are always a man on the move.
	We're going to talk about what you've done, the latest announcement at MyPillow.com.
	But first, for the three million people listening who missed the story last time, will you share with us that day and the speech you had in your hand and how you decided to make those comments about God and prayer in the Rose Garden, Mike?
	Well, we actually were called to come to a roundtable event there, and that was right before the pandemic.
	And we got to the roundtable and they said you had to have a written thing of what you were going to say, what your company was doing for the pandemic, like we were making masks.
	Well, we got out of the roundtable.
	I said to the vice president, how come we never had to read our remarks?
	He goes, oh, no, Mike, you'll be going out on the The Rose Garden, he might call you up on stage.
	And I go, really?
	Well, then we all went in the Oval Office and I decided I started reading these.
	I didn't write these approved remarks.
	Someone in my company did, and I didn't like it.
	We're a vertically integrated company.
	I said, I want to write a good message to the country.
	So right next to the Oval Office, right next to his desk, they were busy working on his speech.
	And I started scratching out a These words that God gave us grace, and I get all the way done with them, and I couldn't read my writing.
	I had arrows pointing up and words crossed out, and the president goes, come on, Mike.
	A hundred million people are going to see this.
	I'm going, no!
	And when I ended up up there, he didn't expect it.
	Nobody did.
	I didn't know you.
	I didn't know the, uh, You know, I guess so.
	It turned out to be a good thing, but boy, did I get attacked for it.
	Well, of course you did!
	Of course you did, because you're trying to bring America back to the basics, to God, the Bible, and to family.
	We have used that cut many times on the show, and you have kept fighting for those principles.
	We have to talk about what's happening, your latest product at MyPillow, but first things first.
	You're back on Twitter, Mike!
	What's it like to be back?
	Well, that was great.
	You know, we found out when Elon Musk was doing his Twitter dumps, my pillow was suppressed and flagged for two years, everybody.
	Every time we did an ad, anything we did, they had us suppressed.
	And of course, they took mine off for speaking out about election crime and election fraud.
	And when he put me back on there, I came back on exactly the same way I left.
	If you go there, you can read my pinned tweet.
	It's really good because it helps spread the word.
	We now, since that time, we have True Social, Getter, Gab, CloudHub, Telegram, Frank Social, my own Frank Speech, along with now Twitter again.
	And even, you know, so we're able to, our voices, when they tried to take our voice on January 7th and 8th of 2021, those days, 1.2 million Americans got deplatformed that day.
	Well, now to have everybody back in a bigger voice, bigger than ever, is absolutely awesome.
	Well, God bless Elon Musk.
	You've got to follow Mike at not only Twitter, but at frankspeech.com.
	Let's talk about your latest venture.
	Thanks to Dawn, I find out about this new product.
	I wasn't aware it was coming.
	You discussed it with my colleague, Mike Gallagher.
	He beat me to the punch.
	I love the MyPillow.
	I travel with the MyPillow.
	My whole team uses them.
	But what's the 2.0, Mike?
	We need to know.
	Yeah, this is when I invented MyPillow in 2004.
	Nothing had ever changed on that.
	It took a year and a half to invent the patented fill.
	I got a patent.
	But sleep is about two things.
	It's about height.
	Which is the adjustable my pillow height and also temperature.
	And we've all flipped our pillow to cool sides and stuff like that and got these sleep interruptions.
	Well, about a year ago, I found out about this technology in the United States, this thread that's temperature regulating.
	And I said, you know what?
	That could be the one thing we could improve my pillow.
	So I spent about six months developing the fabric.
	And this has been quite a process.
	I've slept on one now for two months, and if you've slept on my pillow, I never thought it could get any better, but this is the best pillow in history.
	So every night when I put my, this is not a joke, I put my head on the pillow and I give it one punch to adjust the height.
	It holds the height.
	It just keeps me, you know, sleeping through the night.
	Dawn has already sent me.
	I've chosen the support I need.
	She's sending me the 2.0.
	I can't wait.
	In the meantime, Mike, we've got to get you back on the show for a longer discussion.
	He's literally in the back of his car, riding across America, fighting for the truth.
	It's at RealMikeLindell.
	It's FrankSpeech.com.
	Get your MyPillow 2.0 right now.
	Go to MyPillow.com.
	Yeah, I want to quick say something.
	We've also brought back the buy one, get one free.
	So if you use your promo code, you get the buy one, get one free.
	It can't be that we brought it all back.
	That's insane.
	BOGO.
	Buy one, get one free.
	God bless you.
	Stay safe out there and watch for those feds because we know what happened at Hardee's.
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	That was good.
	That was great.
	Great interview, he has such energy.
	I love how he always takes time to mention, oh we got a BOGO deal guys!
	I know, so smart.
	So good.
	Because I forgot about that.
	So good.
	Title for that one?
	You can't stop Mike Lindell.
	Ha ha ha Very good.
	Mike Lindell.
	Oh, I didn't mention his book.
	I was going to say that, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Sorry.
	Ran out of time.
	That's the thing with the D segments.
	You always feel like you have enough time until you don't.
	No.
	Let's come in with Cat9.
	Come in with cut.
	Nine.
	No liner.
	Oh, yeah.
	Kevin McCarthy looks angry.
	Is he real angry or fake angry?
	Well, they just met about the debt ceiling, right?
	Right.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	We did the waltz, right?
	The waltz.
	Okay.
	We did it in the sea.
	We did it in the sea.
	We did it in the sea.
	I take great offense to this.
	My brother, my baby brother Christian, was murdered on June 24th last year in Chicago.
	And what I just witnessed in that video with that mayor right there was her dancing on my brother's grave.
	There's so many victims of violent crime in the city of Chicago, so many people who don't even know how to pay for a funeral because they're so costly.
	How dare her do that to those families?
	It is ridiculous beyond measure.
	The only solace that I can take from this moment is the fact that she may not be mayor in the next two months.
	Sadly, Gianno, she's going to get re-elected.
	Lori Lightfoot, over 2,000 people killed in Chicago under her tenure, including Gianno Caldwell's baby brother.
	All right, let's go to your calls.
	One-on-one is something you cannot miss, but we've got a few minutes left.
	Let's squeeze in John from Michigan.
	John, line two.
	Hi, Sebastian.
	I need some help from you, brother.
	I really do.
	I love President Trump.
	I love his policy, and I voted for him twice.
	And if he gets the nomination, I will vote for the man again.
	But I am so fearful that he will unite the left in their hate and vitriol for him.
	Tell me why I'm wrong, please.
	It's irrelevant.
	What candidate who really loves America will not unite the left?
	I don't understand.
	This is the ultimate criticism I don't get.
	So which candidate who really wants to save America and can, will not unite the left?
	I mean, are you arguing for Mitt Romney?
	I don't get the point, John.
	No, no, no.
	I'm voting for Donald Trump.
	So I don't understand the point.
	You're only going to not unite the left if, you know, the GOP candidate is Bernie Sanders or AOC.
	So I don't understand your point.
	But don't they have a special hate?
	Do you not agree that they have a special hate for Donald Trump?
	Well, of course they do, but it doesn't matter.
	If they said Mitt Romney noogied, you know, boys in high school and had his dog on the roof of the car, it doesn't matter who.
	They're going to destroy whoever it is.
	I don't get this point.
	And also, it's defeatist.
	So the person the left is most afraid of is the person you shouldn't support.
	John, listen to yourself!
	Listen to yourself!
	The person the left hates the most is the person we shouldn't have as candidate.
	What are you spewing?
	I'm not spewing anything.
	But listen to the logic!
	The logic is flawed.
	Why does the left want to destroy him more than anybody else?
	Because he is the most effective.
	So you don't want the most effective person who can destroy the left to be the candidate?
	The logic is self-defeating, John.
	Do you understand what you're saying?
	I do.
	I understand what you're saying.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	And thank you for helping me illustrate the point.
	The person the left wants to destroy the most is the person we should have as the candidate because they want to destroy him the most.
	You've just proven my point!
	God bless you, John.
	Thank you.
	Give that guy a signed copy of The War for America's Soul, because I've been doing this for four years.
	Four years!
	I couldn't have made that point better.
	The guy they hate the most is the person you've got to vote for.
	John, perfect.
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	We'll be back with Lauren Chen.
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	And this would be if it was me.
	If Crowder fails to deliver a monthly content in any month or any of the quarterly content in the corner, including any and all ad reads, and by the way, all these contracts came with three, four, five ad reads per show, which would fundamentally change what this show is.
	Gotta get those dollar dollar bills.
	If I fail to do that, it would be a $250,000 reduction in fee per quarter.
	That is a very unusual post from one of the most popular conservative content providers.
	His name is Steven Crowder.
	He's a comedian.
	He's been in showbiz since he was a child.
	And he's reading a contract he was offered, or a term sheet as the industry calls it, out to his... What does he have?
	Millions?
	Two million followers on YouTube?
	I gotta ask, um, Mr. G, sanity check.
	Reading a contract out that you've been offered or a term sheet in front of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, it's a little strange, isn't it?
	Especially when you're getting offered $50 million and you're complaining about it, as if you're getting screwed over.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Let us unpack that.
	It's made a bit of a ruckus on the right in social media circles.
	And somebody who's been rather outspoken, we're delighted to have her on America First right now.
	One-on-one to do the deep dive on many issues, not just the crowded daily wire fracas, is Lauren Chen.
	Lauren, welcome to the Salem News Network.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	Happy to be here.
	All right, so you've done quite a in-depth analysis of not only Stephen Crowder's torching of his relationship with the Daily Wire, but also the Daily Wire's response.
	Let's just show a little clip.
	This is the man behind Daily Wire.
	His name is Jeremy Boring, and sadly, With that name, this video he responded to Crowder with isn't very interesting.
	It was a 50-minute video where he read the contract onto the screen and tried to explain or justify it.
	Eric, let's play a little clip.
	I still think most people feel like, you know, if you're only working four days a week and you get four weeks off every year and you can pre-schedule even additional time to be traveling by banking episodes, you would at least say, you may think, well, he needed to negotiate that and get it down to 170 or something.
	Sure, I thought he would, but it's certainly not unfair to expect someone that is making $50 million over the next four years to, you know, work 192 days a year.
	Not the most compelling viewing, but I guess Jeremy thought he had to make some kind of statement.
	$50 million deal.
	Crowder says Daily Wire are on the side of big tech because they would have punished him and taken away his income had he transgressed the censorious rules of big tech.
	Let's unpack not just this, but the larger ramifications for political discourse for conservative content provision.
	First things first, Where are you now?
	We're what, like three, four weeks down the road from all of this?
	You are very unbiased in your original analysis.
	Have you picked a side in all of this or has it changed?
	So since I did my video about it, Steven Crowder did do his Timcast appearance, big appearance.
	I think at the time that I was watching it, there were 175,000 live viewers.
	So clearly there are a lot of people who are interested in this whole situation.
	I think Timcast said it was the biggest audience they ever had is when Crowder came on.
	I wouldn't be surprised.
	And I actually, and maybe I would love to hear some pushback from you guys.
	We could talk about it.
	I've actually landed more on Crowder's side since seeing that.
	Yeah, interesting.
	Okay.
	So let's unpack it because I think it has ramifications for you, for me, for anybody who consumes conservative political content.
	I'm going to give you my take, and tell me if I'm missing anything, or why you've taken the decision you've taken.
	And by the way, you know Steven, and I think you know most of the people of the Daily Wire, so these aren't unknown entities to you, correct Lauren?
	Correct.
	I've worked with both entities before.
	I've met them before.
	I've actually had job offers from both parties before, so I know how they work internally.
	I know people who work with both parties as well, so I've heard stories from there.
	Basically, in my video that I did talking about the situation, I let people know right up front.
	Knowing both The Daily Wire and Steven Crowder, I was not at all surprised that a business between them would not work.
	I just never expected it would I guess I'd go south so quickly and so very publicly.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And you actually, I think if I remember well, your initial response, you actually cried on air.
	Yeah, shows me for going live in the morning.
	Yeah, don't do that ladies.
	Let's be sexist here because it's justified.
	Don't go live in the morning, especially if you know one of the party's concerned.
	And you have a personal relationship with them, and that relationship, for various business reasons, didn't work out too well.
	You may betray some of your emotional baggage there, but God bless you for being so open and candid.
	So here's a couple of... The weird thing is, it's hard to pick a side here.
	It's really hard to pick a side, because on the one hand, you've got The Daily Wire,
	makes this seemingly massive offer of tens of millions of dollars despite the fact that yes Crowder has a staff he has to pay and it's over multiple years and they say oh by the way if you get strikes if you are penalized by YouTube which is the monster in terms of video content platforms if you are penalized in terms of making money we're going to take that out of the money we are paying you which on the one hand you go
	Well, duh, of course, because if you can't make money with the videos you are putting on YouTube, then why would Daily Wire give you money for something that's not making money?
	A kind of obvious business approach.
	But then, Crowder's argument, and again, it's hard not to side with him, As well, on the one hand, you have cold, hard cash and filthy lucre and, you know, daily wire, wanting to make money.
	And you've got Stephen saying, well, hang on a second, you're daily wire.
	You're trying to create an alternative platform to big tech.
	You're making movies.
	You're creating podcast empires with Candice Owens, my buddy, Andrew Klavan, Michael Knowles, Matt Walsh's movie.
	But you're acquiescing.
	You're in your contract.
	You're acquiescing to the censorious restrictions on conservatives on the monopoly platform that is YouTube.
	Aren't you strengthening that monopoly position?
	So it's hard to pick a side, but I'm curious, especially after the Tim cast Interview another, you know, amazing performer who I think has eschewed YouTube and is now doing most of his things on, or not eschewed, but he's doing a lot of stuff on Rumble as well.
	Tell us what's changed in the last couple of weeks Lauren.
	So I also want to mention that in addition to watching Steven Crowder's videos, or video and appearance, I also have been watching coverage of the issue by Rakita Law, who has done a very good in-depth dive throughout the whole contract talking about his experience as a lawyer, Robert Barnes as well.
	He is a contract lawyer, he's seen a bunch of these whole things, and he has also worked with people who've been approached by the Daily Wire.
	Both of those lawyers are of the opinion that this Because of that acquiescence to Big Tech or for other reasons?
	For other reasons.
	I mean, obviously, the big tech issue is something that Crowder seems to be very passionate about.
	But even just from a financial perspective, and it's not either or here, it could be a bad deal for multiple ways.
	But even from a financial perspective, this is a terrible deal.
	I think people who are not familiar with how these contracts work, they hear $50 million.
	That's so much money.
	Why would you be mad?
	And also like, of course, they're gonna pay you less if you earn them less.
	How could you be mad?
	But what people don't understand and what Rakita and Crowder have kind of mentioned is that Crowder would be penalized.
	His money would be cut if he got a strike from YouTube or banned or anything, regardless of how much other money he was bringing in from something like subscriptions, right?
	So essentially what the daily wire contract means is that Steven Crowder is penalized if he brings in less, but not rewarded if he brings in more.
	And another good point people have brought up is that the daily wire contract says that he will lose money, and they give a percentage, if he's demonetized on YouTube, but it doesn't give him the opportunity To transfer those views to somewhere like Rumble, which Steven Crowder has been very successful on in terms of a platform.
	He's been banned from YouTube from live streaming before.
	He's migrated his audience to Rumble in the past and gotten hundreds of thousands of views.
	However, the Daily Wire contract, it seems like they only want to make it a partnership rather than him just being an employee when it hurts Crowder.
	But there is no mechanism in there for him to essentially Try to recoup any losses the company might incur or to share in the success if his show explodes.
	So that I think is very one-sided, as other people have also pointed out.
	And one of the things that has made me change my mind was actually reading comments that were on the Tim Cass video.
	I heard from a Daily Wire subscriber that she was actually subscribed to the Daily Wire, a paying customer, because she was under the impression that by subscribing to their paywall, she was helping Matt Walsh People like Michael Knowles speak their mind and say whatever they want.
	She was not under the impression that her money was offering no guarantee forever or for whatever reason if Michael Knowles were to get a strike.
	So I think there's also the, you know, the perhaps maybe miscommunication on behalf of Daily Wire that, yeah, what you're paying for isn't necessarily the ability for their host to say whatever they want.
	Ultimately, if Big Tech doesn't like them, they will still have their pay cut.
	So it's essentially, you know, as a host, You're pushing this paywall, you're pushing the subscription model, but at the point that you need it, it's not there for you, it's not enough.
	That kind of, that point really, it made me see Crowder's perspective a lot more.
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	Lauren, one last thing and then we'll move to the strategic level and stop talking about individual actors and companies.
	I get the impression, I had a few dealings with Stephen, mostly with his father.
	I think he does take things rather personally.
	He may be a good businessman.
	I think he is a good businessman, but he's not a business man first.
	He is an artist first, I think.
	As such, he does let emotions drive him quite often, which is fine.
	It's a character trait.
	But there's also an issue here where this is a term sheet, not a contract.
	And I've signed, you know, multiple contracts in my life.
	The first contract, or the first term sheet, is not the thing you ever sign.
	Unless you're an idiot, or unless they're offering you the sky.
	It is the beginning of a negotiation process.
	Here, there was no negotiating process.
	There was a, you're a bastard, I'm not gonna sign this, and then recording phone conversations with Boring that he later uses.
	So, there's something a little bit, you know, unrealistic about the approach to a piece of written paper, perhaps?
	Ah, the term sheet argument.
	So this is something that Jeremy Boring really and Ben Shapiro as well really tried to emphasize in their videos.
	It's just a term sheet.
	It's not a contract as if the term sheet does not represent what ideally they would have in the contract, right?
	If Steven Crowder or some other influencer perhaps wasn't savvy in the business, Do you really think that when it came time to sign the contract, the Daily Wire would be like, hang on, bro.
	Don't sign this.
	This is actually a terrible deal.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, You know, the two parties meet and Crowder says, no, no, no, I want 60 million.
	No, no, no, no.
	We're going to offer you 55.
	It's a, it's a put.
	What they're offering is the, what they think they can get away with before somebody says, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, I want an extra month of holiday.
	Right?
	Right.
	But I see, I think that is the sticking point.
	Like it's what they think or they want to get away with.
	And I think Steven Crowder was a little bit rightfully insulted that his so-called friends thought they could get away with essentially a contract that if things go south for him would result in him having to produce the show and shoulder all the costs without any compensation.
	People have gone through the contract.
	If he were to be deplatformed by big tech, he would actually owe the Daily Wire money in addition to still having to provide Then with episodes, even though all his Mug Club subscribers would be behind their paywall.
	So this was a bad deal.
	I mean, the way that I see it is that just because it's a term sheet doesn't mean you can abdicate all responsibility for what you are proposing.
	If someone were to, let's say, slip the right of prima nocta into a term sheet, you know, for them to go like, oh, well, it's just a term sheet.
	Why are you even mad?
	It's like, OK, well, I see what you're trying to do.
	And I also thought, and this is something that my mind was changed on listening to Crowder, I also thought it was a bit hypocritical for the Daily Wire to say, this is just business, this is just business.
	But also, how could my friend Steven do this to us over a business phone call?
	You know, you mentioned the phone call as well.
	That was a big mark against Steven, in my opinion.
	I'm still not 100% sold on it.
	But People have brought up Project Veritas does it all the time under the guise of a date or a friendship and it's also... Yeah, but Project Veritas does that to catch people.
	...even only released it once the Daily Wire tried to say that Stephen called them and was freaking out about them and yelling about money.
	Right, right.
	Alright, let's take it up a notch.
	Let's go to the 50,000 foot level.
	You know, I have very good friends at the Daily Wire.
	I've mentioned a couple of them already.
	But I have a serious issue given that I do believe we are in A culture war, the likes of which we've never seen before.
	It makes the 1960s look like a joke with, you know, the tie-dye t-shirts and flower power.
	The idea that you create a subscription-based media empire, that outward-facing identity of which is utterly conservative, in my opinion, you can make a lot of money, and Jeremy makes a lot of money, and so does Candice, and so forth.
	But it's never going to win the culture war because you are only ever preaching to the converted.
	Is the future the independent Lauren Trenz of the world?
	The crowd is doing their own thing and maybe bringing over people from the middle?
	And does the daily wire model even make sense if they, by their admission, say we're in a culture war, Lauren?
	Well, I just want to be clear with all of my criticisms of the way that the Daily Wire does business, and really I'm talking about contracts here for talent.
	I'm not sure about the other employees.
	They do do a lot of good work.
	Matt Walsh, I think, is one of the most important voices around today.
	What is a woman... That film is a seminal film.
	I'm talking about the subscription-based paywall model that is overtly conservative.
	Well, I think it's funny because I think there is something to the subscription-based model.
	But ironically, the value of the subscription-based model would be that it gives conservative commentators a safeguard against big tech should they ever get censored.
	So, you know, you have other platforms that do a subscription-based model, like The Blaze, who use it actually as I think what a lot of people assume it's intended for, to say that, hey, even if big tech demonetizes us, if sponsors drop us, we still are able to function because of direct support from the audience.
	The Daily Wire, the way they apparently are doing business, no, it does not make sense.
	They're trying to have their cake and eat it too.
	They're trying to tell people, subscribe to The Daily Wire so we can fight against big tech and so we won't get censored while also essentially telling their hosts that, by the way, if you do get censored, we will cut your pay.
	I think their model is confusing.
	I think a lot of people who are subscribing were under the impression that the reason they were giving up their dollars directly was because they were ensuring that hosts would still be able to function even if big tech were to penalize them.
	So yeah, I think a lot of people are probably going to walk away with this thinking, then what is even the point of the paywall if we are still beholden as conservative voices to whatever big tech deems advertiser friendly?
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	All right, Lauren, you had a show on CRT called Roaming Millennial Uncensored.
	Gotta ask you, because there's a little bit of a difference in age between us, where are we in the Effort to win the culture war or just to convince people of the veracity of our arguments when it comes to freedom of speech, individual liberty, when it concerns the millennial generation.
	Is the Biden administration making it worse or better?
	Are there chinks in the armor of the ideology of the left?
	Would you give us a situation report of how you see things?
	Well, the way I see things, especially when compared to maybe 10 years ago, is that the average person is a lot more aware of what the progressive far left stands for, and they're a lot more opposed to it.
	I think, you know, over the past two, three years, people have just gotten tired of the idea that if you don't use someone's preferred pronouns, you're basically a bigot guilty of hate speech.
	I think people are tired of cancel culture where, you know, you can be fired from your job for supporting the wrong president or voting for the wrong politician.
	So if you talk to the everyday person, I think the right has made a lot of headway in terms of the culture war, in terms of letting people know that this is what the left stands for.
	You know, these are not Christian morals.
	These are not American morals.
	I mean, if they had their way, it would be open borders, drag queens in elementary schools.
	And the average person, guess what, does not support that.
	However, where things are concerning is that over the same time period, 10 years, while I think the left has lost a lot of goodwill among the general population, they have simultaneously really established a stronghold in most institutions.
	And I think while we're seeing the average person get tired of the left and, you know, start to push back against a lot of this left-wing propaganda, we are also seeing that these wokesters, these activists, have really planted themselves in positions of power, whether that's government, Hollywood, you name it.
	I mean, just think about it.
	The other month, Joe Biden was speaking to this trans individual who did the series 100 Days of Girlhood on TikTok.
	The Biden administration has come out in support of things like transformation, gender procedures for minors.
	This would have been unthinkable.
	Just five years ago, but this is actually what is happening in our institutions, political institutions.
	So it's a strange place to be in.
	And I think the result is that people are more alienated now than ever from things like government, from Hollywood, and basically everywhere in between.
	Now, my contention is those things that you mentioned, the extreme transgender ideology, the mutilation of children, the conversions and what have you, that is the red pilling for tens of millions of Americans in my demographic.
	So if you're older, if you've got kids, you're going, what is Boston Children's Hospital doing?
	They're cutting off the breasts of a 14-year-old girl.
	This is insane.
	Even if you're not religious, you'll say, hang on, this is diabolical.
	What about people who are 20 years 30 years younger is there an issue you see red pilling the 20-somethings or the 30-somethings because i don't see the trans the transgender thing is is the trendy thing on tiktok so is there something where people are like scratching their heads and going yeah maybe not No, absolutely.
	So I think when it comes to the whole trans issue specifically, if you're around my age or younger, you're probably in one of two camps.
	You think this is a great idea.
	In fact, you're the one who's pushing this on to young students, whether they like it or not, or you're maybe against it.
	And perhaps you didn't even consider yourself politically inclined.
	You weren't interested in social issues.
	But see, the thing is, I think the left in a lot of ways overplayed their hands.
	We have a lot of people out there who are just trying to live their lives, get to work, provide for their families.
	But now, whether it's through their kids' schooling or even in the entertainment that they watch, they are seeing this whole trans agenda really exploding.
	And I think, you know, if I have another channel where I just talk about movie reviews, so many comments that I get from people is that they're just tired of this overt politicization Infesting everywhere.
	So, you know, if you just have a regular TV show, and then all of a sudden all the characters are some sort of new sexuality or gender, the left, I think, is counting on that brainwashing people to their advantage.
	I think a lot of the time it does the exact opposite, and it makes people tired of this message.
	So I guess bottom line here is we are also looking at more polarization, even among people like Gen Z. You know, simultaneously, they're the most liberal.
	Generation that's ever lived, but if you've ever talked to a Gen Z conservative, I have to say I would say they're even more right wing, more conservative than perhaps people of your generation.
	No, they could try to be more conservative, but it's going to be hard to beat us.
	We're talking to Lauren Chet.
	They've been through the fire a lot of times with the schools.
	I said they've been through the fire a lot of times with the schools.
	Oh yes, that's true.
	I know that with my children.
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	She's also got a movie review channel.
	We do that every Monday.
	It's called Making Movies Great Again with my buddy Chris Coles.
	You should definitely catch our reviews.
	We celebrate toxic masculinity, especially the movies of the 80s.
	Lauren, tell us, where can people find your movie reviews?
	Sure, you can find my movie reviews on Facebook, they're just under Lauren Chen, my general Facebook page, or on YouTube, they are on the Mediaholic channel.
	So that's Mediaholic, like alcoholic, but for Mediaholic.
	Mediaholic.
	Alright, what's the last thing you reviewed?
	I believe the last thing that I reviewed was the horrendous, just truly terrible Velma series on HBO that not only race swapped, but also sexuality swapped.
	Is it a conservative ploy?
	I've heard some people say it's so bad it's got to be a conservative troll.
	Part of me has wondered that, because it's just very hard to imagine anyone, even a far-left liberal progressive, who would think that this is good content.
	And actually, the next video I have coming out is a review of Bros, which has been touted as the first gay rom-com.
	It's a tough competition as to which show or movie is actually worse, but essentially, a lot of the videos that I do over on the media channel revolve around the idea of me watching it so you don't have to.
	I have to ask you, have you watched the Last of Us zombie TV show?
	No, actually, I haven't, but I've heard that it's surprisingly good, or at least that's what a lot of people are saying.
	It was for the first two episodes, and then on Sunday, episode three dropped in a 70-minute episode.
	Not joking.
	I watched the time.
	I was watching it with my 23-year-old son.
	In the 70-minute episode, 53 minutes were a homosexual love story between two grown men who get naked and have sex.
	In a zombie TV show.
	Of course.
	Why else would we want to watch a zombie TV show?
	Why else would you tune in to a computer game based on zombies?
	If not for the gay sex.
	Yeah.
	Alright.
	I want to see a review from Lauren Chen.
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	Alright.
	We don't have much time left.
	I just want to Let's talk about your interesting background because you were born in Canada, raised in Hong Kong, studied political science with a minor in Middle East Studies and Arabic.
	How on earth did you end up doing reviews of Velma on Facebook?
	Well, as you can see, I'm using my education to do the good work of making wrecked feminist videos.
	Um, but I kind of came about YouTube a very strange way.
	I graduated poli-sci BA, hot shot as you know, but I ended up working in HR as most poli-sci graduates do and I really just started making YouTube videos for fun as a hobby.
	I've always been interested in things like film and a video as a medium.
	And I was strangely lucky enough that eventually I ended up getting enough support where I was able to make YouTube my part-time job and then eventually full-time job.
	And I think it's now been six years that I've been able to do content creation full-time.
	And I'm very blessed to be able to do something that allows me a lot of freedom and that I actually genuinely enjoy.
	And I mean, it has been sad with Trump gone.
	There's been a lot less content to make, but thankfully the progressive left, people like the Young Turks, HBO, Velma, they're doing me a good favor, giving me a lot of content possibilities.
	There's a lot to talk about.
	Don't worry, the boss will be back.
	He's already back, so you will have more content that you know what to do with.
	Me and CNN just out here hoping for that.
	I know, but when CNN gets, you know, 400,000 viewers of an evening and we get 3 million listeners here, you know, there's... I don't know how long they're gonna last, Lauren.
	I just don't know how long they're gonna last.
	Let's help out our viewers, some of whom may be in, you know, in the demographic that's interested with this.
	Podcasting is a perilous Environment, 99% of podcasts and YouTube channels fail.
	What is the secret?
	Is it the lighting?
	Is it the Japanese cherry blossoms in the painting behind you?
	What is the advice you would give to somebody who wants to sally forth into the environment, into the industry that you have been so successful in?
	Well, actually, I get a lot of people contacting me saying, I would love to dabble in content creation, even if it's just as a hobby.
	What do I do?
	I think the best piece of advice is just to do it.
	I have so many people who say, I'm thinking about starting a channel.
	I want to do this.
	I know it can be intimidating putting yourself out there, but you know, you're never going to build a following if you don't actually put out content.
	I think that's the hardest thing for people to get through is just make the content your first video, you know, after your fifth video, you're going to look back and think that That's terrible.
	How could I even thought that this was good?
	But you're going to get better as time goes on.
	And definitely don't overlook the importance of things like lighting, like sound quality, and of course, SEO.
	Though I will say that it's, you know, it's a lot harder to get started than when I was just beginning, because now, of course, the algorithms, they favor things like authoritative sources, and there's a lot more censorship, but it's still, you are still able to break through, I think, if you have something valuable to say.
	And especially if it's a trending topic that people might be searching for, they could still find you.
	So give it a shot.
	And there's two major philosophies when it comes to being a content provider or creator of video content or podcasting content.
	One says, think of an audience and what the audience is interested in.
	And the other says, no, no, no, you can never think of the audience.
	You just have to go with what you love.
	Which one do you follow, Lauren?
	Honestly, I feel like I have to do a little bit of both because I'm someone who I would love to, you know, sit down and watch a two hour long video about exactly the economic reasons why university education has exploded in cost.
	That's I'm interested in that.
	I've done videos about that.
	They have performed very, very poorly.
	I understand the people who say, well, there's not an audience for it.
	But at the same time, I think if you're not passionate about it, people are going to be able to see that and it's not going to translate into good content anyway.
	Hopefully you can find a middle ground there where it's something you want to talk about and it's something that people want to watch.
	But hey, even if nobody wants to watch, it might still be worth it to make it just because you're interested in it.
	And ultimately, I think the internet has really warped our sense of what success is when it comes to finding an audience.
	You know, people might complain, oh, my YouTube video only has 50 views.
	I mean, think about it.
	If you were to do a real-life exhibition, and 50 people came, I don't think you would be complaining about that.
	That is still something.
	In university, you know, we spend weeks working on a paper that might be read by one or two people.
	So, you know, just because there aren't tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people watching it, that also doesn't mean you don't have an audience, right?
	Because an audience of 10, 20 people, that could still matter.
	Build it, and they will come, I think is the line from the movie.
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	Two questions left.
	We're almost out of time.
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	Thank you for joining us today, Lauren.
	First things first, you have done something which is remarkable.
	Like Steven Crowder, you're independent.
	Is it exciting to be independent or scary?
	I think it's a bit of both.
	And you know, throughout my time on YouTube, I have had contracts, affiliations with not only CRTV, but also Blaze TV.
	And I'm going to be doing another show with Blaze TV going forward.
	But throughout it all, I've always maintained my own YouTube channel to have that independence.
	And I think it can be a lot of fun.
	You know, as we were seeing with Steven Crowder, sometimes the big networks, they offer They can offer a lot, but they can also ask for a lot.
	So having your own platform like I do, it just ensures that, hey, you know, even if I do something and I get cancelled, even among conservative circles, at least I have the ability to speak directly to people.
	And there is a security in that, definitely.
	All right, Blaze, make sure it's a good term sheet, okay?
	We don't need another fracas with somebody who has a following like this lady.
	Although that would be a great way to maybe kick off the show in terms of promotion.
	No fake fracas either, okay?
	Just give her a good term sheet.
	All right, last question.
	A lot of people who are in the conservative movement, influencers, watch the show.
	President Trump is a guest frequently.
	What is your message for the next two to five years?
	What is it that those who love liberty need to focus on more or perhaps are getting wrong?
	What's your advice to this burgeoning conservative movement?
	Well, I think a good rule of thumb is that if the swamp creatures like Mitch McConnell, they don't like what you're doing, it probably means you're on the right track.
	Don't take advice from losers who essentially turned an entire generation off of conservatism.
	And I would say also don't overlook cultural issues.
	I've been talking about things like the transgender craze for about five or six years.
	And I remember when I did, I would get a lot of people saying, well, this isn't actually happening.
	We need to get back to the real things, what people care about in terms of Tax policy.
	And don't get me wrong, taxation is theft.
	But I think what we're seeing, especially what the governor's race in Virginia, is that these are actually issues that matter to people.
	Culture matters.
	And I think the right has been neglecting culture for far too long.
	And that's why, you know, when a conservative actually does engage on culture and also policy, someone like Ron DeSantis, someone like President Trump, that's why it's so effective.
	And that is why the left hates those people so much, because they know that they're actually the ones who pose the greatest threat to them.
	So, I just, you know, as a voter, if you see that the left is constantly attacking someone, I'm sorry, they're a pretty good person to vote for.
	And that, you know, that's definitely true of the likes of President Trump.
	It's a saying we had when I was in the White House, if you're being lambasted every single day by the establishment, whether left or right, you're definitely over the target.
	And Andrew Breitbart tried to warn us, everything politics include is downstream from culture.
	Guys, get serious, understand the importance of culture and listen to this lady and subscribe to her show.
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