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Do you regret the relationship that you maintained with him against Melinda's advice and wishes?
Oh, I've said that I'm... I mean, this is... You're going way back in time.
But yeah, I... New audience.
I will say for the, you know, over 100th time, yeah, I shouldn't have had dinners with him.
Epstein had a way of sexually compromising people.
Is that what Melinda was warning you about?
No.
I mean, it's... No, I had dinner with him, and that's all.
And that you regret the relationship, the acquaintance?
That I had dinner with him.
And the relationship between the Foundation and Epstein?
There never was any relationship of any kind.
How many times did he say dinner?
Hey, Mr. G, isn't it weird that Bill Gates there, being interviewed, I guess in Australia they do real journalism, that he keeps saying that he had dinner with Jeffrey Epstein.
Why does he say dinner so often?
But he didn't mention how many dinners was the key thing, I thought.
He made it sound like it was just one dinner and I think there was multiple.
But he focuses on the word dinner like he's trying to avoid talking about something else he did with Epstein?
Yes, it was very creepy the way, too.
He was not very comfortable in there.
And he had a weird kind of grin, like a creepy kind of, oops, I better not talk about the other stuff, grin.
Exactly.
He did not want to get into that.
He was not enjoying that.
Bill, Bill, Bill, stop telling us what we should eat and how many vaccines should be forced upon us and tell us the truth about you on Lolita Island with your buddy Jeffrey Epstein.
Who, by the way, can I just remind everybody, when, you know, the jet set on Lolita Express were hanging out with Epstein, he was already a convicted paedophile.
Yeah, he'd gone to prison.
Gone to prison for having sex with underage girls.
Let me just do a quick survey of the team.
Eric, how many pedophiles do you hang out with?
Can I say less than zero?
Nice answer.
Alex, how many pedophiles do you hang out with?
Or let's make it easy.
How many pedophiles have you had dinner with?
None.
None?
Oh, what about Guy?
How about you?
Uh, zero, I guess.
I think you need to be more than I guess.
I think zero is the number we're looking for here.
Mr. G, let's just fill out the team.
How many pedophiles have you had dinner with or other things?
None.
Well, that's as it should be.
I too have never had dinner or anything else with a pedophile.
Why would anyone?
Who knows, he's a convicted pedophile!
Hang out with him!
On his private jet, having dinner or otherwise.
Welcome, dear friends.
I think it's Monday.
I hope you had a wonderful weekend.
So much to discuss.
It has not been a quiet news weekend.
We want to hear from you because you are the most important part of the show.
Somebody's already called in.
I haven't even invited you to call in, but that's a good sign.
The number is 833-33 Gawker.
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Let me just stand up on one thing.
I don't know if it makes much of a difference for me to give my opinion on Ty and Nichols, the death of Ty and Nichols, but it is driving the new cycle as a broadcaster.
Broadcaster, I guess, by dint of the fact that it's driving the news cycle.
I need to say something about it.
I'm not a former law enforcement officer.
I've trained literally thousands of law enforcement officers in a counterterrorism context.
I served in the British Army Reserve, so that's my understanding of the use of force or the escalation of the use of force.
But I've watched the video.
of that arrest.
The breaking news is a sixth officer has also been suspended and I think potentially charged as a result of that incident.
So first things first, let me respond to some of my conservative friends in the media that have commented and have even recorded little Instagram videos about, well if only he'd resisted arrest.
No.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, it is wise, very wise, whatever skin color you are, whatever skin color the arresting officer is, to comply with the orders of a police officer.
But even if you don't comply or something goes wrong, doesn't justify having your head kicked in multiple times while you're on the ground and you've been restrained.
I'm sorry, there is no scenario in which you're on the ground, you've been restrained by four other Burley officers, and a fifth one kicks you in the head repeatedly, bends down and punches you, wails at your skull.
No, sorry, okay?
Even if you've resisted arrest, the individual has been subdued.
The individual is on the ground.
He has been restrained.
There is no scenario at which you can wail into that person's cranium whether they resisted or not.
Now, I can imagine circumstances where The force is overdone.
But very select examples.
For example, say a police officer has just seen his partner shot and killed in front of him and he loses control.
They've been partners for five years and during the arrest he uses more force than necessary.
I can understand it.
It doesn't justify one iota, but it is a human response that somebody you care for, somebody you respect, somebody you might love, you know, in a professional platonic sense, has died in front of you, been run over by a driver that tried to escape a scene.
And while restraining them, you just lose control.
But what we saw there with those five black officers, let me be clear, the five black officers, Wasn't... wasn't that scenario?
He tried to evade them?
That is true.
But I suspect, and I will be proven correct or wrong as the case develops, that there's something deeper here.
Either these individuals, two of whom were hired after the police department significantly lowered the bar for joining the department, either they shouldn't have been police officers, or there's a backstory here.
Just like we know with George Floyd that the arresting officer who knelt on his neck knew him well.
They had both worked together.
Nobody talks about this.
They had both worked together as security, as bouncers at the same nightclub.
Huh.
Isn't that interesting?
Kind of backstory there.
What was the history between George Floyd and the officer who knelt on his neck for nine minutes?
I suspect there may be something to this as well.
that all five officers or several of those five officers likewise had some history with this individual or something had happened that day that riled them up, that meant that these individuals were looking for trouble, were looking to abuse somebody, that meant that these individuals were looking for trouble, were looking to abuse somebody, to let off steam, to use violence, which is never permissible for an There's no excuse.
You don't go looking for trouble.
You may have had a bad day, but the point of what you're doing is to serve, is to protect.
So, we'll keep you tuned.
Sixth officer has been embroiled in this case that will probably end up...
If justice is blind with the convictions of several or all of those officers for some kind of maybe second-degree, third-degree homicide.
But that's my take.
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. . . . . - "It was, they were trying to gin they were trying to gin up some kind of race riots for all of 2020, right?
Remember the guy in Georgia?
Yeah, that would have been it if it wasn't for that.
That was kind of the first thing.
Jeff?
Oh, he's feeling callers.
Okay.
Yeah, he's alright.
Geoff, I just got a text from Greg Kelly.
He wants to come on the show to talk about his book and I'm sending you the text.
It's got his wife's email who's handling the bookings.
Okay.
Do you want to try and make that a one-on-one?
Yeah, that would be fun.
That would be fun.
Is he in the DC area?
No, he's in New York.
Give me Skype.
Give me Skype.
All right.
All right.
Oh, I'm gonna send you an image.
Tell me if the, um... Oh, did you find a Churchill image?
I did find another one.
Get a specialty ready, guy.
It is.
Wait for it.
Wait for it.
This one.
Oh, nice.
Excellent.
Ben in the background.
Alright.
And I'm sending you... This one.
Okie dokes.
You said that was, what, 66 years ago today?
65.
65, okay.
And I'm sending you another one.
Oh, goodness.
Another one.
My dad loved that show.
What do you mean?
Every decent red-blooded male liked that show.
Not gonna lie, between that, I also want to see that, and I also want to see Miami Vice one day.
You have not seen it?
I have not seen either of them.
Oh my gosh, your education is so stunted.
Well, Miami Vice ended in what, the 90s?
Yeah, 91 maybe?
I literally hadn't been born yet.
So what?
You know we do record these things.
That's true, that's true.
All right, I'm putting it up there.
Dig a poll, who are you voting for?
DeSantis or President Trump?
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy. boy.
I know Sebastian well.
Listen to him.
He's with us.
Wow.
Are we going to get Congressman Good on the line?
I do believe he's... We have an absolutely full call board.
It is crackers.
We had that one person call in during the monologue and now we've got Howard, Phil, Don, Alex and Janet from Minneapolis.
Wow.
God bless you all.
It's Monday and you want to sound off.
The number is 833-33-GORKAT.
It's 833-334-6752.
But I do believe we may have a Congressman on the line who we haven't had on the show yet from my state, from my Commonwealth, from Virginia, from the 5th District.
He's Congressman Bob Goode.
He's one of the good guys from the 20 who, you know, made sure that the next Speaker of the House would be Not an empress, not an emperor like Nancy, but actually serve the interests of those who represent America.
And we're delighted.
Is he on the line?
Is he on the line?
Do we have him?
Congressman Bob Goode!
Welcome to America First!
Good to be with you.
Thank you so much for having me, Mr. Corker.
Well, welcome on the show.
We are delighted to finally connect with you.
Lots of people have said, I've got to get you on the show.
You're now talking to three million people from the Commonwealth all over the country, from California to New York.
First things first, congratulations on what you did a couple of weeks ago.
You and the other 19 patriots.
Do you feel confident that this will be a House, this will be a Congress that represents American voters more than was previously the case under other GOP speakers?
I think we have the opportunity.
We need to recognize that it is simply that, just an opportunity.
You saw two historical things take place.
One, you saw for the first time in 160 or so years, members of Congress willing to set aside their own selfish interests, their own personal ambition, self-preservation, and take personal risk.
To do what they believe was in the best interest of the country, and to do what they told the voters they would do, and to fight for true institutional change to try to save the republic.
What we seem to call for, you know, we want courage in those who represent us, and you saw that on display for 14 votes or so.
Secondly, you did see transformational change, at least systemic in terms of the rules, regular order, single-issue bills, amendments from the floor, time to read legislation, commitments to vote on things like a secure border, a balanced budget, term limits and so forth, and to have ideological balance in the party committees and leadership structure and so forth.
So all of that, Sebastian, will give us the opportunity for change, If we hold ourselves accountable to that, but as you know, we now turn the page and the spending fights, the debt ceiling fight are now on the horizon.
And what I tell folks, some folks were uncomfortable with the time it took to select a speaker, but we should never be in a hurry to make a bad decision, get it right.
But you've got to be comfortable being uncomfortable, and we're going to be uncomfortable again as we refuse to just raise the debt ceiling without getting commensurate cuts in spending to put us on a path to fiscal responsibility.
I want to, on the record right now in front of all of our listeners and viewers, thank you for what you have done with just a handful of others in shedding a light on January the 6th and the plight of the January 6th detainees.
Is there any hope that we can turn around what has been done in the last two years, that the clear political persecution of those because they are Republicans, that in D.C.
that something can be done about that?
Thank you for continuing to keep the highlight on that egregious situation.
And you could argue, Sebastian, with all of the crises that we've inherited or we're receiving from the hands of the Biden administration, whether it's the open border, the compromise of our educational system, the weakened military, the surrender of American Indian independence, the spending and all the rest, that perhaps In addition to the loss of faith and trust in our election systems, is the loss of faith and trust in once sacred federal institutions such as the FBI, the Department of Justice, and so forth.
And while what we do have the opportunity to do, specific to your question, is now with the Republican majority to hold the hearings, compel the witnesses, issue the subpoenas, and bring greater transparency and accountability, at least in terms of a sunlight of public exposure,
That will be greatly valuable, of course, but I just warn you that in the immediacy, however, we're going to be frustrated because the Congress, and certainly one branch of the legislative government, does not have judicial power or policing power and so forth.
And so those referrals that we make will go to the Department of Injustice.
Under Merrick Garland, and unless there's sufficient public pressure, as there was to do the special investigator with the Biden crime family and the classified documents, we're going to be frustrated at the pace that we can bring true accountability.
So we need to do more.
And thank you for asking.
We need to talk about this more.
We need to do more to expose this.
It's sadly true that the left controls the Department of Injustice and Merrick Garland and the Biden administration.
That will be loathe, obviously, to act on whatever we uncover.
He's representing Virginia's 5th District.
You can follow him on Twitter at RepBobGood, also good.house.gov.
Tell us, outside of what we've already mentioned with the debt ceiling, with the justice for the January 6th detainees, what will you be focusing on?
What are Bob Good's priorities in this Congress?
Well, what I have focused primarily on has been securing the border, which if you could argue, I've said it many times, that never in the history of the country has our own president done more to intentionally harm the United States than what he has done with not allowing, but facilitating the border invasion.
We've got to continue to do that.
We've got a commitment from Speaker McCarthy to bring a floor vote on Chip Roy's border bill, but we've got to get 218 Republican votes to advance that, as you know.
So I'll continue to focus on the border.
I'll continue to focus on the Education and Workforce Committee.
I'm going to be chairing the Subcommittee on Health, Employment, Labor, and Pensions, but continue to fight on the K-12 and college campus indoctrination of our kids.
I'm on the Budget Committee.
That's going to be on the front line on the spending side.
I know we've already touched on that, but that's the number one responsibility of the House is to protect The full faith and credit of the U.S.
government, our ability to pay our debts, but our ability to borrow when needed, and to restore fiscal responsibility.
That's really where I'll continue to be focused in this second term that I've just started.
All right.
Sixty seconds left for the question that I think most of our listeners want to know, especially after those four incredibly important days of picking our new speaker.
Is the GOP, at least in Congress, is it now an America First party, Congressman Goode?
I think the majority of Republicans in the House are oriented that way, are wired that way.
President Trump has changed the Republican Party, has changed the Republican Congress, and half of our membership was not in Congress before President Trump.
And I think most of them want to be true, conservative, patriotic members of Congress, and we just have to help instill them with the courage to take personal risk.
To advance the cause and to do whatever it takes to live up to the faith and trust the American people put in us when they gave us the majority back on November 8th.
Well, if you live up to the reputation you have already managed to manufacture, we will be in good hands, at least when it comes to the 5th District in Virginia.
A resident of Virginia, we'd love to get you in studio for a longer discussion next time, Congressman.
Can we make that work?
Yes, sir.
Absolutely.
We'd love to do it at the time, whenever we can make it work.
Thank you.
Let's do it.
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I'm back with your calls.
I'm back with your calls.
Because you can do anything.
Stinchfield probably, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Let's do him.
Okay.
Alright, mic's on?
Yeah.
Yeah, he is one of the good ones.
Yeah, how long has he been in?
He's been there for a little while.
Wanna say Tea Party?
Let me check.
He has been in there since...
Oh, wait, really?
Hang on.
Oh, he was elected in 2020.
Okay.
Yeah, he's pretty new.
He's a new one then, never mind.
Very good.
Oh, that's right!
He primaried out the last congressman in that district, Denver Riggleman.
Like a rhino.
Denver Riggleman?
Yeah, he beat him in the primary.
That was, that's right, that was a big upset.
Alright, can you show me, can you keep playing me cuts?
Can you give me, uh... I think you missed PhD.
Yeah, I know.
Ten and the rest, keep going.
Ten, go ahead.
Why the current governor of Florida, Republican Ron DeSantis, of course, only now he's graduated from whitewashing black history to simply erasing it.
DeSantis has blocked a new AP course on African American history from being taught in Florida schools, saying it violates state laws and is, quote, historically inaccurate.
I think that I'm not willing to accept, nor I think Kimberly, to accept that so-called critical race theory is a bad thing.
It has literally been defined as such by a fake journalist named Christopher Ruffo who decided that he was going to create a campaign to throw everything related to dealing with the history of structural racism.
And this one's almost two minutes long.
School board members were getting death threats.
Oh yeah, I've seen this.
These weren't... I've seen this.
I've seen this.
Okay, go.
Next.
This is South Carolina or North Carolina?
South.
South.
That's what he wants.
I love it.
I'm gonna use that next.
This is South Carolina.
South.
South.
That's what he wants.
I love it.
I'm going to use that next.
I'll tee it up.
14.
We have a president whose son's laptop from hell gets taken over and exposes massive corruption like nobody's ever seen before.
Do you think the father—do you ever hear this?
Do you think the father was upset?
Dad, I left my laptop in a repair shop.
I forgot to pick it up.
We had great people.
You know, we had some people that got in through the rhinos and got in some bad... But, I mean, for the most part, we had incredible... We rebuilt the entire military.
I tell you this because you see these blundering fools on television that say I shouldn't be standing in front of a church with a Bible.
Remember?
That was a terrible thing to do.
I'm standing with a Bible in front of a church that these terrorists tried to burn down the day before.
And they're saying, oh, they wish they didn't walk, because... I tell you what, these are fools, but... Okay, come in with that, then I'll tee up Zesto.
Come in with 15, and then you'll tee up 13.
up 13.
Alrighty.
Always.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We had great people.
You know, we had some people that got in through the rhinos and got in some bed.
But, I mean, for the most part, we had incredible... We rebuilt the entire military.
I tell you this because you see these blundering fools on television that say I shouldn't be standing in front of a church with a Bible.
Remember?
That was a terrible thing to do.
I'm standing with a Bible in front of a church that these terrorists tried to burn down the day before.
And they're saying, oh, they wish they didn't walk because... I tell you what, these are fools, but I'm telling you because we have an amazing military.
So after a short period of time, they hit him hard.
And 100% of ISIS was gone.
That was it.
was God.
100%.
That was it.
100% it was God.
100% You're so right.
Yeah.
Those fools.
That was the president in New Hampshire.
Those fools who are annoyed that he held up a Bible outside a church that Antifa and BLM tried to burn to the ground one block from the White House.
What did he do after that event?
He rolled up, he was in South Carolina at the weekend as well, and he rolled up at the Zesto's burger joint.
And this, this is why they hate him.
He went in there, he stopped the Secret Service, he got something to eat, and the woman behind the counter said, let me hold your hand, Mr. President, because I want to pray for you.
Play cut.
Thank you very much.
So you recommend his food, right?
Yes, sir.
Can you hear my friend?
Yes, go ahead.
Go ahead.
I pray God in the name of Jesus.
I pray God that you're just helping me in this presidency.
When I posted that video, I thought, this is it.
This encapsulates why they have to destroy him.
A former president who in public is allowing to have a prayer session, an impromptu prayer session.
I think we will already have two million views on that.
Guys, you've got to follow us on social media.
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All right, the call board is absolutely full.
Let's talk to a former police officer in Orange County.
Howard, line one.
Happy Monday.
Hey, Dr. Gorka, this is Howard from Orange County.
How you doing?
Good, good, good, good.
You're a former Leo?
Oh, yeah.
I'm retired.
All right, so tell us about this Nichols case.
Yeah, I thought it was very interesting that they call themselves the Scorpions, this Crime Suppression Unit.
Yeah, the five officers were from the Scorpion Special Unit, yeah.
Yes.
To me, that's an insect with pincers and a poisonous stinger, and that doesn't exactly portray the phrase to protect and serve.
Right.
But rather, like, search and destroy?
Well, look, I have no issue with scary names if your job is, for example, to target drug traffickers or human traffickers, but not if you're beating somebody who's been restrained and kicking them in the head.
That's not quite what you should be doing.
Well, you have a tendency to live up to your name.
Yeah.
So you gotta watch what you call yourself.
No, but I don't care.
If the target of the unit is hardened criminals, yeah, give them a scary name.
But if they're going after people who, what, the charge was reckless driving, Howard, and we don't even know what was reckless about his driving.
Yeah, but I was a member of the Los Angeles Police Department Wilshire Division Crime Task Force.
Now that's a professional-sounding name.
Yeah.
And it was composed of white, black, Asian, Hispanic men and women, but our color was blue, and we always had a sergeant in the field with us.
So let me ask you, Howard, and don't go anywhere, Phil, Don, Alex, Janet, we're going to get to you guys.
Howard, have you watched the video?
Oh yes, I have.
So, give us your professional assessment as a former law enforcement officer.
Well, they had a traffic stop, but they didn't treat it like a traffic stop.
They treated it like it was a felony stop right from the beginning, but it wasn't even a professional felony stop.
On a felony stop, you don't rush the car because if he's that dangerous, you make him turn off the auto, throw the keys out the window, exit the vehicle, and then you prone him out in the street, and then you have one officer go up and see if the car is clear, make sure there's no one else in the vehicle that can shoot you with a gun while you're searching the original suspect.
You search and handcuff the suspect and time out.
So what do you think happened here?
Just bad cops?
Or do you think there's some backstory that we're going to find out?
Well, I don't know about the backstory.
Maybe they had a prior event with this, a history with this individual.
That could be it.
But to me, it was just these cops fed off of each other.
Yeah, it was.
It was like a feeding frenzy with sharks and chum in the water.
Stay on the line, Howard.
Let's get Howard one of our MAGA Returns t-shirts.
Thank you for your service, Howard.
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Yeah.
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Um, yeah.
Alright, uh... Oh, uh, 16 and 17.
Yeah, 16 and 17.
Go ahead.
We have proposed mandatory electric stoves.
Think of that.
And electric cars, they want mandatory stuff.
They want mandatory electric cars.
The cars go for like two hours.
What are you going to do?
Everyone's going to be sitting on the highway.
We're all going to be looking for a little plug-in.
Does anybody have a plug-in?
My car just stopped.
I've been driving for an hour and 51 minutes.
It's ridiculous.
And people that are cooks, I'm not much of a cook, but the cooks are saying gas is better.
So use whatever you want, but have alternatives.
If you want an electric car, if you want an electric stove or a range.
It's crazy what they're doing.
It's crazy.
I can tell you that the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police have indicated that that won't make any difference.
When we seize handguns, the handguns are always- Right, good.
Two B and C, right?
Two B, C. Right, I'm going to use that Winnipeg officer with him.
With him, okay.
So what the flip happened to Cathal?
I don't know, I haven't heard anything.
Checking.
Sent a few emails.
Okay, wow.
She's the only one whose name is on that story, right?
Yes.
Has she done any interviews?
Have you seen Jeff?
She was on Larry.
Oh.
Oh, and I've got all those pictures then, by the way.
I have the... Oh, good.
I have Selleck.
I have the picture of you and your mother.
Yeah, I'll do that in E.
Winston Churchill.
I'll do Churchill with Grant.
I gotta do my Piranha merch here.
How was her interview with Larry?
Who saw it?
It was good.
It was good.
She's young, right?
Yeah, she's young.
She seemed a little nervous, but it was good content.
Okay, good.
Want to come in with anything?
Oh, yeah.
Another Trump cut, maybe?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. yeah.
Yeah, yeah. yeah.
You think the father, do you ever hear this?
Do you think the father was upset?
Dad, I left my laptop in a repair shop.
Forgot to pick it up and this repair guy went a little crazy when he saw what was on it.
What's on it, son?
Every crime that you've ever committed, Pa.
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Phil in Philly.
Line 2.
Oh, thanks for taking my call, Dr. G. I just had an observation.
Yeah.
I mean, since we are rewarding complete and utter failure with another two-year term in Ron and McDaniels, I want to suggest that we cannot play by the rules that the Republican RNC is laying out for us, because they are losing it, and I think on purpose.
I think that President Trump should name his VP right now, and I think it should be none other than Larry Elder.
He has been, I think, the sole inspiration behind Candace Owens and Brandon Tatum's Blexit movement.
He speaks truth to the youth, and if he's given enough time, he could probably flip California red single-handedly.
But it could be like a kind of a squeeze play, West Coast, East Coast kind of thing.
Larry is a true blue, red, white, and blue American.
And him side by side, those two men, Larry Elder and President Trump, I can see nothing but a big win for this country.
But we're running out of time.
We can't play by the same rules.
You know, that's actually an intriguing concept because he, I think he campaigned for just like six weeks and really gave Gavin Newsom a run for his money in that recall election.
I think that's intriguing.
I know, look, he's... You know what, Dr. Chief?
I don't mean to interrupt, but I think he should lay off Ron DeSantis.
I don't think Ron DeSantis has any inclination to run for president.
Oh, no, no, Phil, Phil, Phil, come on.
Have you seen the videos that Ron has dropped in the last two months?
Of course he's running!
The size of the United States flag gets bigger and bigger behind him in every video.
He's got to think this through.
He's got young children that are just waiting to be... No, no, no.
Dude, he's a politician.
You know for them egos everything.
Come on.
Well, look at what happened recently to Senator Ted Cruz's daughter who was trying to hurt herself last month.
Yeah, but you're being logical.
You're not dealing with politicians who run on logic.
They run on ego.
This is a guy who served for five and a half years in Congress and we didn't even know he was there.
You really think Ron DeSantis isn't running?
I don't think that he, I think he's going to sit this one out.
He knows his stars on the rise, but he's going to sit this one out.
Phil, today we are making a bet for $1.
He's running.
You're saying he's not running, correct?
Yes, sir.
All right.
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Over to Los Angeles.
Don, welcome!
Dr. G, such a great pleasure to check in with Radio Free America and the rolling thunder of American talk radio.
I love it, Radio Free America.
What brings you to our shores today, Don?
Well, I took your good advice since it's movie day.
I took your good advice and had one of the kids look up on her computer, because I'm incompetent, the deleted sniper scene from Lethal Weapon.
You watched it from Lethal Weapon?
You saw the deleted sniper scene?
That was pretty hardcore, wasn't it?
Oh man.
Still here, Joker?
Although I cleaned that part up.
But magnificent.
So beautiful.
And I didn't even know about it!
I was, you know, a kid of the 80s and I had to be told by my whippersnapper, Eric, that that scene existed.
I didn't even know it existed, Don.
Oh, so true.
I'm so glad he did and I'm so glad you did.
And just to return the favor, my favorite movie of all time since I was a kid, I'd be out in the backyard playing and my mom would open the back door and she'd say, Donny, Captain Blood is on TV.
And I'd come running.
It was like... Was that Errol Flynn?
Who was Captain Blood?
Yes, that was the greatest swashbuckler of all time.
And Hollywood, Dr. G, you know, if anything has to be made great again, it's swashbucklers.
They've completely lost the art of how to do it.
Do you think that's better than The Adventures of Robin Hood?
Well, no.
That's tough.
Because, come on, Basil Rathbone and Errol Flynn, sword fighting, it doesn't get much better than that, does it, Don?
No, but they do it first in Captain Blood.
Basil Rutherbone is Capitaine Levasseur, and there's this great exchange of lines where they're going to make a partnership, which obviously goes bad, where he says, Capitaine Blood, with your brain and my strength, there is nothing we cannot do.
And Flynn replies, Faith Brigade, this precious little I can't do all by myself.
All right, I'm gonna have to watch that movie.
I'm sure I did when I was a kid because I loved Basil Rathbone and all of the Sherlock Holmes with Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce are my favorites to this day.
Take me back to my childhood.
But you gotta keep watching today.
You gotta keep listening because it's Making Movies Great Again in the third hour and we're gonna go back to a category-busting movie with my buddy Chris Coles.
The original, the O.G.
Aliens from Ridley Scott, one of the most amazing directors out there.
You mustn't miss it.
But Don, I think I'm going to go home and watch a little bit of Basil Rathbone and Errol Flynn tonight.
God bless you.
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All right, where did our female caller where did our female caller go?
She dropped off.
What's all that about?
You can lock the lines.
Alright, Stinchfield BC.
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Aren't we ins and outs?
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
90 seconds.
We'll be back with Gonzo Journalist Armie Horowitz in a moment.
Stay with us for more one-on-one with Armie Horowitz after this break.
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Yes, um... Mostly the Tyra Nichols.
No justification for Tyra Nichols.
Alright.
40 seconds.
Yeah, I do lean more towards there being some kind of history there.
Yeah, there's got to be some explanation.
Unless they're just five thugs looking for a fight, it just doesn't make sense.
But then you would have heard about previous things that they've had already.
You know what I mean, I think?
Already?
Are you sure?
Previous history with just him?
No, I'm talking about the five cops getting into trouble before.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right, right, right, right.
That's a good point, yeah.
Want to come in with anything here?
On the side of the U.S. Constitutional, Constitution, America first.
Thank you, Tom, my colleague.
Certainly an unbelievable cut of Chuck Todd literally being a propagandist for the DNC, trying to grill Jim Jordan, and he failed miserably.
I'm going to play it for you, but not now because we've got so many callers on the line.
Let's go to Brooklyn, Alex, line four.
Hey, Sebastian, thanks for taking the call.
So, first of all, I'm actually watching you for the first time live on Rumble.
I always listen on the radio, but it's the first time that I'm seeing you.
And you've got a beautiful studio.
But the second thing is, I'd like to fripple that bet that Ron DeSantis is going to run, because we spoke about this in the past.
Ron DeSantis' popularity... You'd like to what that?
What did you say?
Fripple that bet?
I'd like to fripple that bet to $5.
Oh, wow.
Fripple that bet.
Okay, go ahead.
So what do you think Ron's going to do?
He's absolutely going to run.
We spoke about this in the past.
His popularity is based on what he did by COVID.
And he was able to do what he did by COVID and go against the establishment because Trump made it cool to do so.
So he's definitely going to run by 2028.
I don't know that he's going to be the star in the Republican Party as he is right now.
Look, I agree with you that he's going to run.
But I got some bad news for you when it comes to your analysis, because the truth is he didn't do that.
This is a headline from not exactly a MAGA organization.
This is NPR.
Eric found this earlier for me today.
There you can see it.
I'm just going to read this to you, Alex.
Florida governor orders statewide lockdown.
And we're going to play you a clip today when President Trump was telling him not to lock down the state, and DeSantis says, I'm going to lock the whole state down.
So I know he's going to run, but his record on COVID, not as bright as you would think.
Thank you, Alex.
Steve, Arizona, line one.
Hello Sebastian, this is Steve, Mr. Coffee Mug, Budapest Coffee Mug.
Oh, the delightful Budapest Coffee Mug that I have in my green room.
Steve, what brings you to our show?
You've got 90 seconds.
Okay, so I love war movies too, and one of my favorite World War II war dramas that nobody has heard of is 49th Parallel.
Oh, classic!
Oh, you're familiar with it?
I am, I am, absolutely, absolutely.
Tell our listeners why you like it.
Oh, sure.
So, the gist is that a German U-boat runs aground in Nova Scotia in World War II, but before Pearl Harbor.
So, the officers try to get to America and then to Mexico, where they can get back to Germany.
And along the way, they meet all sorts of Canadians, including German immigrant Canadians, who have no concept or affinity at all for Nazism.
It's a fantastic film.
All right.
Another one to add to the list.
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to have very low infection rates, it makes sense to make this move now.
And, you know, I did consult with folks in the White House.
I did speak with the President about it.
He, you know, he agreed with the approach of focusing on the hot spots, but at the same time, you know, he understood that this is another 30-day situation.
And you got to just do what makes the most sense.
So that order will be coming out momentarily.
It will go into effect tomorrow night at midnight.
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End We have proposed mandatory electric starts.
Think of that.
And electric cars.
They want mandatory stoves.
They want mandatory electric cars.
The cars go for, like, two hours.
What are you gonna do?
Everyone's gonna be sitting on the highway.
We're all gonna be looking for a little plug-in.
Does anybody have a plug-in?
My car just stopped.
I've been driving for an hour and 51 minutes.
It's ridiculous.
And people that are cooks, I'm not much of a cook, but the cooks are saying gas is better, so use whatever you want, but have alternatives if you want an electric car, if you want an electric stove or a range.
It's crazy what they're doing.
It's crazy.
Yeah, that's the American way.
You can choose gas, electric.
They really are fascists.
I mean, not even Hitler, not even Stalin.
Wanted to control what you were allowed to cook your dinner on.
Now they want to ban meat and force you to stop using gas stoves.
Welcome, dear friends.
It's hour two of America First.
So much to share with you.
But first, some amazing, amazing good news.
Pro-life father.
I think he has seven children.
Mark Houck, who was raided by the FBI in Pennsylvania as his seven children were screaming, don't take our daddy away, who was facing a potential sentence of 11 years for pushing somebody who was screaming foul language at his young son outside a Planned Parenthood Abortion Clinic, Mark Hauck, has been acquitted.
Yes, he has walked out of that court today a free man.
We need to get that man on the show.
Jeff, will you reach out to the Hauck family?
Let's get him on the show.
Okay, so we need to talk about my old boss and the governor of Florida.
So, allegedly, there needs to be a change.
We saw Nikki Haley talk about the need for a new generation.
Some people who I considered friends in the past have said Trump is gone.
He's finished.
It's got to be Ron DeSantis.
Which is weird because in America, people on Twitter don't get to choose the nominee, the candidate for political party.
It's called a primary process.
Yeah, I know I'm an immigrant but, you know, I've studied these things and I enjoyed the last primary in 2015.
It was fun.
Now, I want to hear from you.
We've put on our website right now, SebGorka.com, a little poll.
If the election and the primary were today for 2024, who would you vote for?
President Trump or Ron DeSantis?
It's very simple.
I just want to hear from you.
Go to SebGorka.com.
The poll's like halfway down the page.
Who would you vote for?
President Trump and Ron DeSantis.
That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A, SebGawker.com.
But before you vote, let's talk about some of the facts.
So, first things first, his record on COVID and the president's record on vaccines.
It's strange that so many people have DM'd me saying, oh, the president, he's going to lose the base because of his unfettered support for vaccines.
Well, is that true?
Has President Trump said, vaccinate everybody and it's not your choice?
Not once.
Never.
Not since we found COVID-19.
As he said, you must vaccinate yourself.
Instead, he said try ivermectin.
He has recommended other prophylactics and he has said the vaccine should be taken by those who want to take it and who are in risk categories.
When it comes to COVID, we have been told That Ron DeSantis, my gosh, he kept Florida free for the whole COVID period!
No lockdowns!
It's a lie.
That's a lie.
Look into it for yourself.
He, in fact, closed down the schools in Florida when he was told by the president who advised him, look, we're concentrating on the hotspots.
Remember the term hotspots where there were big outbreaks of COVID?
The president said, you shouldn't shut down anything unless it's a really, really bad hotspot like Manhattan.
The rest of the country.
South Dakota, North Dakota, Wyoming.
Why are you shutting down states with a population of 300,000 people and most of them are spread across some vast expanse of territory?
It's insanity!
You don't do that.
What did Ron do?
And I've got the receipts.
President Trump said to him, we're concentrating on hotspots.
Don't shut it all down.
Ron DeSantis said, no, we are going to shut it down.
Play cut.
You know, at this point, I think even though there's a lot of places in Florida that have very low infection rates, it makes sense to make this move now.
And, you know, I did consult with folks in the White House.
I did speak with the President about it.
He, you know, he agreed with the approach of focusing on the hot spots, but at the same time, you know, he understood that this is another 30-day situation.
Yeah, I'm going to shut down Florida at midnight.
I'm signing the executive order right now.
Thank you to NN, you know who you are, who DM'd me that video.
Which, weird, those Rhonda Santa supporters don't want you to see that video.
I wonder why.
So Mr. G, help me out here.
You're a straight shooter.
You understand politics very clearly.
How did Ron DeSantis get this fake reputation for being the massive freedom anti-COVID governor?
Because after it was over the first year when some of the blue states still did it, he cut back on a lot of the stuff.
Like the mass thing where he pardoned everybody that got in trouble for mass, that was in May of 2021.
So the mass thing had been going on for a year.
Why didn't he shut it down then?
And I remember it was, when was I there?
February of 2021, I was there.
I can remember about five times police in the street telling me to put a mask on when we were outside.
In Florida?
Yes, this was in Key West.
Hang on, hang on.
Police?
Yes, at least five different times.
So not, not like, you know, the, the, the maitre d' at a restaurant or the- No, no, no.
This was outside.
Hang on, hang on.
Are you sure you weren't in Massachusetts?
Yeah, this is what, and Ron didn't shut anything down.
This was what, a year after it started.
Well, well, well.
Isn't that interesting?
Let's talk about the rest of it.
Let's keep Jeff up because this is important.
I need everybody who's listening to the show to hear this.
So, my problem with DeSantis is that he's a politician.
So, number one, when I found out in 2018 that he'd been in Congress for five years and I thought, no, no, that's a mistake.
I haven't heard of this guy.
How has he been in Congress for five years?
That means to me that he's really part of the swamp.
If he's been in Congress for half a decade and I haven't heard him do anything, that's already a problem.
What about for you, Mr. G?
The same exact thing.
I don't know anything that he did when he was in Congress.
I barely even knew who he was when he announced that he was running for governor.
And what else gives you a queasy feeling about the governor?
It's not just that he's a politician.
He's following the typical route that every politician that we can't stand that does for run for president.
You go, you get the donors, you write the book, you go get all these endorsements that you have to do.
It's that whole standard blueprint, which we don't like.
It's the typical politician.
He's not an outsider at all.
If you want to check up on what Jeff's saying, just do something in the break when you're not watching, when you're not listening.
Look up the name Ken Griffin.
Look at the name of this billionaire, Ken Griffin, who is now funding the DeSantis campaign.
An individual who not only funded Senator McCain's presidential campaign, he funded Obama and Obama's foundation.
One of the biggest contributors.
What is a billionaire who gave millions to Barack Obama doing?
Backing Ron DeSantis.
Isn't that very, very strange?
All right, let's go to your calls.
Waiting very patiently in Columbus, Ohio.
Doug, happy Monday!
Hi, Sebastian.
Hey, just as your last guest was talking about a typical politician, it just infuriates me when the vast amount of people outside of Washington, they didn't want Romney McDaniel re-elected as the Republican chair.
I do have to make a confession, and a good one at that.
President Trump was the first Republican I voted for in years, but I never voted Democrat.
I always went with the Constitution Party, okay?
And I'm not here to talk about that, but I think it's time we stop calling the GOP the grand old party, because these people are all talk.
And I think a new acronym would be better fit as Gang of Pretenders.
Oh, that's a good one, Doug.
I like that for the GOP Gang of Pretenders.
We'll see if any of that changes in the House after the 20 patriots put the squeeze on Kevin McCarthy.
But that's so good.
Stay on the line, Doug.
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- Lindsey Graham, South Carolina.
Yes.
That's why he was there.
That's another thing people were saying.
Trump was on stage with Lindsey Graham.
This proves that Trump is swamp.
And I'm like, he's one of the senators in the state.
- Right. - He wanted to do.
I think he's still criticizing the grandma we want, but you know, if he supports strong.
Yeah, I mean, what?
He's not going to go to a rally in his state?
Exactly, yeah.
Alright.
Yep.
Thank you, buddy.
You guys there?
Perriman in the chat says, what Seb said is true.
Sandus is tied to very bad people.
Do your homework.
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Let me hear that afterwards.
I just want to make sure it's good enough.
You mean Stinch.
The Stinch.
Hey, hey.
Hey, buddy.
How's it going?
Good.
Now, what platform are you on?
I am on Comrex.
No, no, no, no, no.
For your show.
Oh, oh, um, Real America's Voice.
Rav, okay.
And then what's the show called?
Is it something imaginative like Stinchville Tonight?
That's all, that's what it is.
Stinchville Tonight.
And then if you could pub the podcast.
That's a Salem Media Property podcast.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey guys, I just have to set up my camera.
Hold on one second before you call.
Just give me one second.
Correct.
Exactly.
Okay, alright, now you can call.
And Seb, you're going to do my show tonight, right?
Yep.
Alright, that's awesome.
Thank you.
Alright, what else have we got here?
Oh yeah, 17.
I want to do 17.
I want to talk DeSantis.
And I'm going to use... Yeah, I'm going to use 17 in this segment.
But I'm also going to use... We don't have anything on the Nichols case, do we?
Well, we do have Mayor Adams' comment.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Okay, definitely.
Oh, that's a sick background, Grant.
You like that?
Oh, I love that.
That's awesome.
Can you play Cut 7 quickly?
Cut 7 real quick.
Playback 1.
I got a message today for some white people.
If we have white people listening, paying attention, I wouldn't mind if you would do this with me.
We rub our chests.
We find our heartbeat.
And we say, we did this.
We did this.
White supremacy did this.
I'm talking about Tyree Nichols.
All right, good.
All right, I'm going to use that Ann Adams here.
All righty.
In that order, you'll team up?
Probably.
I might not.
I might just do something that's confusing.
Hi, this is President this is President Trump, and Sebastian is really a friend of mine.
He's a great guy.
He's been with me from the beginning.
Listen to him.
We all learn.
Thank you, Mr. President.
That is most kind of you.
Thank you so much.
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Grant Stinchfield, welcome back to America First.
Seb, I think I was one of the first to tell you you look great when you were losing all that weight.
I think you might have been.
I think you might have been the most perspicacious and observant individual who came on our show.
Well, you do look great, as always.
Thank you.
I'm going to be on your show later tonight.
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Got to talk.
Let's talk Nichols, and then we'll talk Second Amendment, and then I want to talk to you about DeSantis v. Trump.
So first things first, just a stupid TikTok video that is emblematic of the left today.
This is a white woman, for those who aren't watching, talking about the death of Taya Nichols.
Cut seven.
I got a message today for some white people, if we have white people.
Listening.
Paying attention.
I wouldn't mind if you would do this with me.
We rub our chests.
We find our heartbeat.
And we say, we did this.
We did this.
White supremacy did this.
I'm talking about Tyree Nichols.
Five black cops killing a black motorist is white supremacy, but lest you think this is some woman with a very strange haircut who wears comfortable shoes, let's talk to the mayor of New York.
Let's listen to Eric Adams, who likewise doubles down.
Play cut.
Chief CJ Davis, in my interview with her, she said that all the officers being black, it takes race off the table.
Do you agree with that?
No, I don't.
I think that I understand what the chief was saying and I think she really handled this situation in a very professional way.
She moved swiftly, she ensured that those officers were removed from the department, she took all the necessary steps.
But I think race is still on the table.
When a culture of policing historically has treated Those from different groups differently, even when the individuals are from that same group, that culture can still exist and we have to zero in on it, being honest about it.
So there you have the Black Mayor of New York saying it's racism.
At this point, do we just like throw up our hands and say, these people are insane, they need mental help, if black cops killing a black motorist is racism, then there's no point even talking to them, is there Grant?
Well look, Eric Adams was a police officer for crying out loud.
I mean, there are a couple facts in this case.
One is that it was black cops and a black suspect.
I don't know how race plays the matter, but leave it to the left to twist this into an issue of race.
I think this is more about their quest and thirst Seb, one of the facts that I've said on this case is that the media does not give a rat's you-know-what about Tyree Nichols.
They love this story.
They thirst for this story.
They are hungry for this story so they can vilify police officers even more.
Now, the other fact is that these officers were poorly trained.
They gave this suspect an old-fashioned beatdown.
But there's a third fact in all of this that nobody wants to talk about, is that this suspect, He did not comply.
I counted 31 times they said show your hands, 72 times they gave commands.
Does not excuse the police behavior at all.
But I will tell you this, Seb, beyond a shadow of a doubt, if you come across the most murderous, evil, bully police officer who just wants to do damage to every suspect he finds, if you, excuse me, if you literally submit You show your hands and obey commands, you will survive the incident.
So here's my response to that.
And look, I saw your video where you said comply with police instructions, which of course is good advice.
But even if you don't comply, There is no, no rule book, no regulation, no scenario where once you are restrained, you're on the ground, four cops are holding you down on the ground, the fifth guy gets to kick you repeatedly in the head.
I'm sorry, I mean, even if you haven't complied, there's no scenario where kicking a subdued suspect in the head repeatedly is okay.
A hundred percent, Seb.
I don't want to ever excuse the behavior of these officers from the very part of the felony stop.
You know, many people have listened to the show and I've filled in for you.
No, I'm not a police officer, but I'm certified in advanced patrol tactics.
I'm certified in basic SWAT.
I deal with police officers, train with police officers.
This felony stop from the very start, they went about it all the wrong way.
You demand the guy get out of his car, you demand they put their hands up, you demand they back up towards you you don't bum rush a vehicle screaming and yelling angry you don't know who's in the back seat it's the first way to get yourself killed but we always teach even in self-defense you are your own personal protection detail you've got to figure out ways not to become a victim
so even if you want to say the suspect is a victim in all of this he could have done something to prevent himself from becoming a victim for five cops who are literally i call them the violent keystone cops the They didn't know how to deploy pepper spray, they didn't know how to make a felony stop, they didn't know how to use the taser, and they certainly went overboard when they boot kicked this guy in the face.
But if you want to survive and not be a victim, You've got to comply and it just ends.
And guess what?
If he would have, he would have been a really rich man because he could have taken this case to court.
He would have won a lot of money from Memphis and instead he's dead and you got five cops now that are going to be on trial for murder too.
So here's, and we've only got a minute left, but we'll hold you over.
My theory here is there's a backstory like with George Floyd.
They knew the guy or they're just a bunch of thugs who were looking to beat somebody up.
Do you have any other theory?
Well, there's the whole woke policing theory as well.
See, I don't know if there's a backstory here.
I think, one, you're going to find that this guy was high as a kite, and the restraint was not as easy as you think it might have been.
I went back and listened to the body cam footage after the attack, and I thought I was going to hear them, oh, he deserved that beatdown, oh man, I'm glad we gave it to him.
I actually didn't hear any of that.
What I heard was, do you believe we sprayed him with pepper spray?
We tased him.
He didn't do this.
He didn't do that.
I think it'll come back that he was on heavy drugs.
And I think it comes back to woke policing.
I'm hearing a lot of talk that these officers were hired after 2018 when they lowered the standards in the police department.
Two of them were hired after the standards were significantly dropped in Memphis.
And I'm sure we're going to find out that factors into the whole story.
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One of his
listeners came up with that, and it's just we can't make him fast enough.
So, So what else has been going on, Seb?
You good?
You were on fire, your tweets this morning, by the way.
Oh, really?
Oh, Jen and I were laughing.
What was the one about Trudeau?
Oh, no, Tom Selleck.
Oh, and Tom Selleck.
Yeah, both Tom Selleck and Trudeau.
Those were the two ones we were laughing during commercial break.
Yeah, we got to talk about Tom Selleck.
Actually, we'll use that image here now.
Oh, yeah.
Selleck.
Yeah.
And then I'll do the poll as well with Grant.
Do you, be honest with me, do you tweet those yourself?
I tweet absolutely everything except the video clips of my show.
No kidding.
Okay.
Yeah, so I'm the sick bastard that's tweeting, you know, a thousand times a day.
That's great.
How do you find time to do that?
I don't sleep.
Wow.
I don't sleep.
Do you set them up?
No.
They drop when you see them.
Is that your favorite platform?
It is, it is.
Yeah, Twitter is the favorite one for me to imbibe.
I get a lot of my information from there.
If I want to chill out, Instagram for chilling out, Twitter for just getting pissed.
And then I kind of, Facebook doesn't really do it for me anymore.
It doesn't for me either.
We post on there and then I'll post my most important tweets I'll post on Truth Social which is just crazy because we've already got like 700,000 followers.
I don't work hard on it.
We put the video up there and then I put my biggest tweets on Truth Social as well.
But yeah, Twitter in terms of consuming and posting and then Instagram for just kind of chilling.
You?
What about you?
Instagram is my favorite.
Really?
Yeah, I do a lot of reels.
Because of the reels?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, like just generic reels.
And I've been growing pretty, pretty good little pace on Instagram.
And I'm just now starting to use Twitter a little bit more.
Yeah, they screwed me like two years ago under COVID.
They made it so you're not allowed to tag me on Instagram.
I think they might have dropped that.
Eric, do you know if they've dropped that?
Let me do a quick test.
See if you can tag me.
See what happens, yeah.
Were you drinking that Mexican soda water?
The Topo Chico, yeah.
And I stopped drinking it because Coca-Cola bought it.
Are you serious?
Yeah, but...
So...
They got a new social media girl at Salem.
Have you talked to her yet?
What?
New social media girl.
I saw she's got a tiny account on Twitter that has me kind of worried.
Yeah, I don't know if she's really... But she was really smart.
She put a whole plan together for me.
For the podcast.
And it was really in-depth and well thought out.
I actually liked her.
I did a Zoom call with her.
45.
But?
No, no buts.
The but is I don't know where I'm gonna find the time to...
We'll stop sleeping.
Alright, 30 seconds.
Standby.
All right.
You'll tee up cut 17.
Yes.
All right.
I'll tee it up.
And I'm.
All right.
All right.
Is reality just too much?
There's always NPR.
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Man, I've known this guy a long time, ever since he was on NRA TV.
Follow him at Stinchfield1776.
Now, my colleague at Salem, I'll be on his TV show tonight, Stinchfield Tonight, on Real America's Voice.
You're a gun... Oh, first things first.
Yeah.
Just a little.
You mentioned my Twitter account, my Instagram account.
You and Jen Horn were laughing about it.
This morning.
First things first, I was celebrating my mother, my late mother's birthday.
She would have been 84 yesterday.
The most cultured, intelligent, hospitable woman I know.
She spoke nine languages.
A happy birthday, mom.
And then I found out, who does my mother share an angel birthday with?
He's still alive.
He's still with us.
The one and only, and I'm sure you're a big fan, Tom Selleck, a man who knows how short shorts should be.
And I understand Jen was amused by my tweet.
We both were.
We were in commercial break, you know, our show out in Los Angeles, and we were in commercial break laughing at your tweets.
And you summed it up with Magnum P.I.
Who doesn't love that guy?
You know, he was an NRA board member for a long Yes!
He was!
He was!
I remember those posters of him in his hunting gear and those ads.
What a great guy.
Gun guy.
He did that amazing shot that was replicated with Mythbusters from that movie.
What was it?
Not Stinchville Down Under.
It was Quigley Down Under.
You've got to watch that movie.
Love Magnum P.I.
Happy birthday, Tom Selleck.
All right, let's talk about guns.
So this came across the transom on social media.
Stunning, stunning clip.
We're going to play the whole thing.
This is the chief of police from Winnipeg in Canada.
Just sanity check on guns.
Cut 17.
I can tell you that the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police have indicated that that won't make any difference.
When we seize handguns, the handguns are always, almost 100%, in the possession of people who have no legal rights to possess them.
They're almost always stolen or illegally obtained.
I simply don't see, as a 27-year veteran, how adding another layer of law will make any difference anywhere in this country.
When we stop somebody in this city, and police do this every single day, and they have a handgun, somehow saying that this jurisdiction, that Winnipeg is handgun-free, and I'll use air quotes, is going to make it safer or easy for us, is just nonsense.
It won't make any difference whatsoever.
There are handguns all over, they're all illegal, and they're in the hands of criminals.
And that the people that legitimately own them, they're in safes and being taken to gun clubs.
The two sections don't intersect.
So if someone owns a gun legitimately and it's stolen and it's brought into Winnipeg, somebody saying it's illegal to have that gun in Winnipeg is just another layer of... I guess it might make some people feel good, but it will not change the threat level one iota.
What a breath of fresh air.
The criminals we find with guns always got them illegally.
So why are we talking about any legislative response to gun violence anywhere, Grant?
When you introduced the Winnipeg Police Chief, I was bracing myself for what was he going to say.
That's Canada!
That's not a sheriff in Arizona or Montana or Texas.
That's the Winnipeg Police Chief.
That's stunning to the core.
It makes me feel so happy.
Well, but he's only saying that apropos is because they're going to ban handguns in Canada, and he's saying, what?
You're banning legal handguns?
It's not going to make any difference to criminals, Grant.
Which brings us to your other tweet this morning.
You asked whether Justin Trudeau was on heroin or not.
I mean, and you've got to be on heroin in order to think that banning handguns is going to make people safer.
The only thing it's going to do is put good people in harm's way and give the upper hand to the criminals.
Yeah, bingo.
All right, we've got 20 seconds left.
What do you think about this?
President Trump vs. Ron DeSantis.
I'm just saying, hey guys, can we have a primary?
Can we like not anoint people right now?
And can we understand that Ron DeSantis is successful because he copied Trump?
Where do you stand?
I love both of these guys.
I mean, I think Ron DeSantis is a fabulous governor.
President Trump is my guy, though, right now.
I would love to see him back in office.
And my advice to President Trump has been and always has been, Mr. Trump, you're the gorilla.
Ron DeSantis right now is a fly.
Don't even bother with him until the primary starts.
And until you're going head to head, don't worry about Ron DeSantis.
All right.
Gorillas versus flies.
An interesting analogy.
See you later tonight on your show.
Thank you for that, Seb.
I can't wait to see you.
All right, buddy.
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All righty.
Title for that one.
Trump is the gorilla.
DeSantis is the little fly.
We'll see what Cardillo responds.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
So this is D.
Did you want to use this segment to do cut 12?
The Chuck Todd?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Have I done every image I've sent you?
Well, other than the results of your Twitter poll thus far.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, I'm going to mention... No, that's fine.
I'll mention our poll instead.
Oh, the website poll?
Yeah.
Alrighty.
Oh, also Churchill.
Oh, Churchill.
I'll start with that.
Start with Churchill.
Mana 45.
I really don't think the DeSantis fans know what they're getting into, like, starting this, playing this game.
What do you mean?
Like, that we, you know, again, we're ready to go to the mat for Trump and explain, like, even under the slightest bit of scrutiny, it all falls apart.
This idea that he is, like, the leader of the party.
Well, that he's America's first anti-establishment.
It just, it just, like, no, sorry, wrong.
He's DeSantis first, above all else.
Yeah, totally, always has been.
The funny thing, actually, I was looking back, too, again, remembering how his failed Senate bid in 2016, when he initially thought Rubio wasn't gonna run, they tried running for Senate along with a bunch of other Republicans, because it was a free-for-all at that point.
Polls had him down against another congressman by the name of David Jolly.
You remember him?
Uh, no.
He won a big special election in 2014 that was seen as kind of a bellwether election, so he was hailed as, like, a big figure.
Republican politics for a while.
Then, after Trump came along, he became a hardcore anti-Trumper.
And he's out of Congress now, and he's a total anti-Trumper.
Had Rubio not run, and then DeSantis run against Jolly, we most likely would have gotten Senator Jolly, who would be grandstanding against Trump in the Senate.
Right.
Jeff, have you booked a one-on-one tomorrow?
30.
I have not.
I've just offered Greg Kelly, alright?
I already asked.
He can't.
He does his radio show then.
He's coming on the regular show, though, tomorrow.
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I think, was it a caller?
Was it somebody DMing me?
Maybe somebody used to DM me every day with a this day in history.
Something, you know, interesting from medieval times, from the last century.
And I'd try when I could to kind of wend it into the program.
If you know who you are, keep sending those because those are fun.
And I'm going to use a similar kind of thing from A guy whose show I've been on a lot in the UK, Colin Brazier, he's a conservative, and he just posted this amazing photograph, so let's put the photograph up, of an event that happened today in 1965.
Absolutely stunning ceremony.
Solemn, solemn ceremony.
On this day, I'm reading Colin's tweet, on this day in 1965, the state funeral of Winston Churchill occurred.
According to his modern critics, every one of the thousands of attendees was complicit in an act of memorializing a monster.
Yeah, that's what the left would have you believe today, that they were paying their respects to a racist monster, when in fact, Winston Churchill, more than any other person, more than any figure, in the last 123 years can be credited with single-handedly saving Western civilization.
Half-American, half-English, descendant of the Duke of Marlborough, who knew the threat, first of Nazism and then Communism.
May he rest in peace.
All right, we'll go to your calls momentarily, and Mike and Elliot don't go anywhere, but here's the piece I wanted to share with you that's really important.
Chuck Todd from my friend Tom at Salem, and he just said this, Chuck Todd is now a propaganda mouthpiece of the DNC.
Look at how he treats Jim Jordan and the number of lies he spews in just this clip.
Cut 12.
School board members were getting death threats.
These weren't idle things.
These weren't parents just yelling and screaming.
These were actual death threats to elected officials.
And the FBI got a tip.
How do they not, should they not look into a death threat when an elected official gets a death threat?
School Board writes a letter on September 29th.
Five days later, the Attorney General of the United States issues a memorandum to 101 U.S.
Attorney's offices around the country saying, set up this line that they can report on.
Sixteen days later, Chuck, the FBI sends out an email to agents all across the country saying, put this designation on parents.
Report it on the snitch line that the Attorney General set up.
So all that happens, think about it, September 29th, October 4th, October 20th.
That all happens in 22 days.
When have you ever seen the federal government move that fast?
Twenty-five parents whistleblower... There were actual death threats!
Congressman, literally, this is... Chuck, let me just finish this.
Twenty-five parents get reported on that snitch line.
They all get investigated.
FBI shows up at their door.
Guess how many have been charged?
How many have been charged?
Zero.
Then the FBI did its job.
Did the FBI not do its job?
If they were trumping something up, wouldn't they be arresting someone?
You're trying to create a controversy out of the FBI following up on TIP.
I mean, literally.
This is a Loudoun County, Virginia school board member.
If she doesn't quit or resign before the end of the year, we will kill her.
But first, we will kill you.
These were among the comments.
In Dublin, Ohio, a school board member.
You have become our enemies.
You will be removed one way or the other.
Shouldn't the FBI investigate?
One of the people they went to investigate was a mom and they said because she's in the group Moms for Liberty and because they have firearms at her house they go investigate her.
You can investigate America for that?
They show up at your house?
Now you don't think that has a chilling impact on other parents?
So there's a school board meeting tonight.
Mr. Jones is thinking about going and talking at the school board meeting, and then he says, you know what, maybe I won't go, maybe I won't speak up, because I know Mrs. Smith had a visit from the FBI last week.
The chilling impact on First Amendment free speech is what we care about.
This committee is about protecting the Constitution, in particular, the First Amendment.
Good for you, Jim Jordan.
They were targeting American patriots because they were conservatives and they wanted accountability at school board meetings.
It's not the job of the FBI.
And that's why we, today, call it the Fascist Bureau of Intimidation.
Let's go to your calls.
Mike, Springfield, Pennsylvania.
Welcome.
Hi, Sebastian.
I'm writing down this date because I know it's going to come out.
I'm thinking that poor young man had a low IQ, was slow.
He does not understand the concept of comply.
No way.
And all that poor boy did was try to wiggle out of the fight.
He had no fight in him.
He was just wiggling around, wiggling around.
And then he tried to call for his mother.
Yeah.
Mom, if I call for my mom, I'm calling my mommy and you guys are in trouble.
And that didn't work.
And then when he started running home, he started running down the street.
He didn't run through backyards or dark areas to get away.
It's going to come out that he had a low IQ.
What a shame.
That could be the case.
I can't comment on that.
I haven't seen evidence to that effect.
But there's something wrong about that stop.
Whether it's a history they had, whether it's his simple-minded idea that I'm just going to try and wriggle out of this.
You may be right, Mike.
Thank you for your call.
Let's go to Elliot in Philly, line 3.
Hello, Sebastian.
Thank you for taking my call.
One thing I noticed, it was in the Body Cam 3 video.
It was after they had finished subduing him.
One officer was saying that he, that Tyree got his hand, you know, onto the officer's gun.
Yeah, I'd have to go back.
You're saying that footage was on Body Camera 3, Elliot?
Yes.
Alright, I'm going to check that out.
I think... Where in the video does that happen?
Does that happen at the beginning of the altercation or near the end of the altercation?
No, this was after they had subdued him.
And he was down and handcuffed and on the ground and they were talking about things and the one officer said he had his hand on his gun or somebody else's gun and it elevates the seriousness of subduing him.
Well, it does, but even then it doesn't justify kicking him in the head once he's been subdued.
I mean, so that's the bottom line.
Whatever he did, once a suspect, whether it's an active shooter or anybody else, is subdued, you don't kick him multiple times in the head.
That's the big problem.
Thank you, Elliot.
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His wife confirmed he can do it tomorrow.
What?
Are you talking about Greg Kelly?
Yeah.
Yeah, his wife confirmed he can do it tomorrow at 320.
320, okay.
I think we've used just about every cut up to this point.
No, Kasich.
Oh, goodness.
Yeah, that's true.
Uh, come in with that.
Is that what he is?
Okay.
I forget that.
Did you see the email from Newsmax, Geoff?
He would always on the campaign trail talk about how my dad was a mailman, as if that made him sound like a working-class joke.
It became a meme, kind of like Jeb and the guacamole.
I forget that.
I miss 2016 so much.
What a time to be alive.
Did you see the email from Newsmax, Jeff?
40.
Yeah.
So what am I supposed to talk to Hamid about her?
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Listen, I just wanted to share something with you.
I'd love to hear that you love Sherlock Holmes.
The CD is The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce.
But the first Professor Moriarty, it's an actor, you may already know this, George Zuko.
Are you aware of who this guy is?
How's the last name spelt?
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Is that from the Wrathbone films or on stage?
Because Sherlock Holmes was on stage.
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It's the OG, the original alien in space.
No one can hear you scream.
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Am I clear, Lynn?
But I want to get the hell out of here.
Oh, God!
It's moving right towards you!
Move!
Get out of there!
It's moving towards you!
Move!
Down!
Move down!
Move down!
Don't move! Down! Move down! Move down!
Get out!
No!
Wake up!
They say in space no one can hear you scream.
A category gut-busting movie chosen by my co-host.
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The original 1979 Alien.
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Chris Coles, let's start with your choice.
You chose this movie.
Why did you choose Ridley Scott's Alien?
You may not believe this, I have never seen it straight through.
I do not believe you.
I've never seen Alien.
I've never seen Alien from beginning to end before.
Before what?
Before you chose it for this show?
Yeah.
So why did you choose it?
Well, I've seen most of it, right, when it has come on the television.
But I've never seen the sort of like uncut television, you know, the theatrical version from beginning to end.
I wanted to see it from beginning to end.
You know, it is really a masterpiece.
I mean, it is a masterpiece.
When you watch it from beginning to end, it's a little bit slow-paced.
I don't know if every young person today will be able to appreciate this film.
Look at the pacing here.
This is the opening and just the subtlety of the individual letters being built over time.
This is not an MCU, you know, universe movie.
This is a very different age, isn't it, Chris?
Yeah, and you know, no one had seen anything that looked anything like this film before this.
I don't know if everybody always remembers that this is 1979.
This isn't even the 80s yet.
Right.
But it is a very 80s feeling film, and I think to some degree it's because this sort of set the standard of what a film should be like in that era.
But what's interesting is if you compare it to, say, Star Wars, Star Wars is a much faster paced film.
Star Wars is a much bigger film.
It's a grander film.
It's a bigger scale.
You know, you've got space battles, you've got a full galaxy that you're dealing with, multiple planets.
This film is a very small film when you think about it.
It all takes place in one small space, a bit like Die Hard, right?
Right.
And, but even Die Hard is a full building.
This is just this one ship, basically.
I mean, they do land on a planet and, you know, they explore another space ship.
No, but the drama happens on the Nostromo.
Exactly.
Exactly right.
It's a small, it's a small film in terms of like location.
Um, but it, it is so perfect.
Everything is precision.
You know, when they have, when they have these characters examine the egg, for instance.
That's how a human being would do it.
You would be like, wow, this is fascinating.
Let me have a look at this, right?
And so everything, although you take a lot of time to examine every little detail, every little detail is fascinating enough to warrant that time spent on it.
Now, let's start with the question that kind of troubles me to this day.
I mean, this is so much fun that we do this.
We were caught in the new series on The Godfather, The Office.
So, last night my wife and I watched three episodes of that back-to-back.
So, I only watched Alien again this morning.
I mean, what kind of a job is that?
After breakfast, I got to watch Alien preparing for the show.
I actually did the same thing.
Great great minds, but but the first thing that's kind of peculiar and I love Ridley Scott my favorite movie of all time is Blade Runner and this man's eyes is majestic, but it's a category-busting movie because it's Sci-fi, but it's also horror and the weird thing for me is I don't watch horror movies I don't like horror movies right not my bag right, but this is
This is just so well made it's so compelling the acting that what you said the tightness the performances it's it's not a schlock horror movie is it?
No and you know the the performances uh need to be noted here I don't normally care that much about the acting but I don't know what it is about the way Ridley Scott directs an actor uh but I mentioned this in a previous film I think it was I think it was either Die Hard or Lethal Weapon There is a sort of cavalier attitude that the actors tend to have.
You can see it in something like The Magnificent Seven.
There is a kind of acting where the actors just sort of, you know, they just act like normal people.
You have certain, like acting today is often, in films and television, is often very intentional.
Everybody's saying something in a way that's very clear so that the audience understands.
It's almost theatrical.
But this is not like that.
When I was acting, you know, I wasn't a particularly successful actor, but when I was acting in Hollywood, this is the kind of acting that I liked to do, right?
Where I would just almost throw away lines.
Are you saying it's more organic or believable?
What is it about this kind of approach?
Yeah, you're not trying to necessarily be clear to the audience with everything you say.
You're not trying to perform, you know, per se.
You're trying to act as if you were really there and this is how you're acting.
Maybe you'll mumble a line.
Maybe it's not that clear to the audience, but that's how you'd say it in real life, you know?
And what's really weird is so much of this filmmaking was dirty.
There was instances when, like, somebody wasn't mic'd properly.
You could barely hear them.
Yeah.
There were a lot of, like, lens flares.
There was shaky camera.
It was incredibly dark in places.
But it added to the naturalistic nature of the project.
And certainly, that kind of acting was quite popular, I believe, in the 70s.
And that's where this film draws, I think, you know, a lot of that from.
It's just, like, that's how it was done in the 70s.
And I miss it.
I wish acting was more like that today.
Yeah, and all the people talking over each other.
They said this is, you know, truckers in space and they're believable.
I'm sorry, Yafit Koto, Harry Dean Stanton, these guys could be truck drivers on long haul rigs, you know, driving across America, you know, driving As our regular caller Franco does, driving 18 wheelers full of liquid eggs across America.
This could be them.
Talk to us about the performances.
What stands out to you?
Great names.
Tom Skerritt, you know, seriously underutilized actor.
The breakout moment for Ripley.
Yafit, Dean Stanton, on and on and on.
What kind of stands out for you, Chris?
You know what's interesting is like, the first part of the film, you believe that Tom Skerritt, the captain of the Nostromo, he's the hero.
Yeah.
Right?
He's the hero.
He's the one in charge.
He's the, he's the real badass.
He's the tough one.
He's the strong one.
If anybody's going to kill this, you know, alien, it's going to be him.
Right?
And then he dies.
And you're like, well, crap, you know, what are we going to do now?
And I don't think Ripley was a particularly likable character at the beginning of the movie.
She was a rule, you know, follower.
She was by the book.
She was, you know, unsympathetic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you know, what was great about that is they didn't make her the tough character.
They made her a weaker character.
And making her a woman was actually kind of lucky because I read that they didn't, they had originally written a man, but Fox had been casting women in lead roles in a few projects.
And they thought, oh, this is kind of trendy now.
We'll make it a woman.
And I think that vulnerability, like there's moments when she's just bawling, crying, you know, freaking out, you know, and shaking, yes, shaking, and she really turned the performance into a much more feminine character, you know, you know, through the use of her performance and Sold it!
I mean, I believe that this character, you know, I wouldn't have guessed it was written as a man.
No.
Unless I knew that.
And at the end, we'll walk through the key scenes, but at the end, you know, when she is surprised by the alien she thinks has been blown up, I mean that...
That fear when she's getting on the spacesuit.
It is palpable.
It's real.
It comes through the screen.
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All right, let's continue discussing the performances.
I think one that really stands out amongst the others is Ian Holm, who for me as a kid was actually You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you?
the BBC radio play.
So to see him playing this thing, Ash, let's play the sound clip of Ash.
This is a standout performance for me.
You still don't understand what you're doing in this, do you?
Perfect organism.
Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You admire it.
I admire its purity.
A survivor.
Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.
Unclouded by delusions of morality.
That is pretty much an A game, isn't it Chris?
Oh my, I mean the script is perfection, really perfection.
And that character, the sort of milky white substance that's coming out of him instead of blood, I remember when I first saw that when I was a kid, it really freaked me out.
I mean, this was... But that first moment, that first moment where he ambushes her in mother, right?
And then afterwards locks the door and just that one drip of the white fluid comes out of his forehead as he's starting, you know, the circuits internally are starting to fry.
I mean, that is quite an intensity.
And then, who thought of this?
Trying to suffocate a woman with that phallic symbol of the rolled up magazine.
Gritty intense, dude!
Well, I didn't think of the phallic nature of it, but yeah, I suppose that's true.
No, I, I, uh, look, I like the gritty nature of it.
There's a, there's a film called, uh, uh, what is it called?
I think it was called Torn Curtain or something like that.
It was a Hitchcock film.
Hitchcock decided that he was going to create a scene in which he showed the difficulty of killing a man.
And it was one of the most intense, Murder scenes that I've ever seen.
It was like this intense struggle between two men.
This is kind of what you see here, right?
In this scene where he's trying to kill Ripley.
Everybody else come, well the other two people that are still alive, come to her rescue.
And they're trying to tear this robot off her, but he's obviously got this superhuman strength.
And it's such a struggle to get this guy, and it's dirty, right?
It's not clean.
In most modern movies, A fight scene is pretty well choreographed.
It's pretty clean.
This is rough.
This is ugly.
Well, yeah.
Ripping her hair, right?
That clump of hair at the beginning.
And then when Rhea at home grabs Yafit Khodo's peck and just squeezes, and you see that pain on Yafit's face.
This is not your usual fight scene.
Yeah, and then the baseball bat taking his head off.
I mean, that is a shocking moment, you know, but it's still moving around, you know, and it's just so creepy.
So many brilliant surprises, so many brilliant moments in this film.
The design of everything, the design of the robot is amazing, but I think the crux really is the design of the alien.
I think that they knew they had something magnificent when they got that original alien design, and I think that's why they put so much effort into this project.
I think you know starting out, like when I started my YouTube channel, I was like, okay, this is going to be successful.
I knew it like immediately when I thought to do it.
And so that inspired me to put a lot of effort into it.
I think the same thing is true here.
I think when they had the script, when they got that alien design, they said, okay, we've got a winner here.
Let's bring in, let's try to like, and I think everybody that was working on that project knew it was going to be a success and they put in every bit of effort they could.
Right.
Well, you know, for the back story, I watched a making of documentary as well.
So this thing is born because of Dan O'Bannon helping John Carpenter in this super cheap comedy science fiction movie, Dark Star, that utterly flops.
And he's horrified.
He goes to the movie theater.
The author watches.
Nobody laughs at it.
The whole thing crash and burns.
And then he says, OK, I'm going to flip it.
I'm going to go from sci-fi comedy to sci-fi horror.
And then they have this idea of the chestburster, and then what happens is this unforeseen confluence of H.R.
Giger, this weird, sexually obsessed, clearly from his imagery, Swiss artist, who is so obsessed, I mean, his imagery that becomes the imagery of the xenomorph, In the making of documentary that I kind of forgot this guy who you know if you're the designer you paint a few pictures and then you sell them to the studio this guy was on the set sculpting he was on the set molding this guy was in it the whole time obsessed with getting it right.
Yeah and when you can get somebody of that caliber to come in and put that much effort into something This is the result, you know what I mean?
I just don't think that we have the same caliber of artistry in pictures today, just because there's so many projects being made at once, right?
Let's say one project wants a great art director, okay?
They get them.
The next project wants a great cinematographer.
Back then, you had so few big budget projects made that when you got one, it was possible to get the best of the best in a variety of areas.
And I think they just got In some ways, they just got incredibly lucky with this picture.
Incredibly lucky.
Yeah, because you add to that, you've got the incredible music.
You've got Carlo Rimbaldi, who does the mechanism of that internal jaw, works on the head of it.
Then you've got this Nigerian guy, what is he like, this seven-foot Bolaji Badejo, who they see drinking in a pub in England, and they say, You're a bit tall and skinny.
You'd make a great alien.
Do you want to work in the movies?
Yeah, here we go.
This is the stuff that, it's just, you know, the fates smile on this movie, Chris.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, and I do think the fates certainly smiled on it, and like I said, I do think everybody just put every ounce of effort they possibly had into producing.
And, you know, There is a nice balance in many ways to this picture, right?
It's in outer space.
It's a completely artificial environment.
And the way that they did the spaceship and everything looks phenomenal.
But then you've got so much that's organic.
Like we were talking about, the acting is very organic, very natural.
And the alien is very organic and very natural, but the cinematography also very natural and organic.
Like I said, it was dirty.
You know, you had these lens flares and everything and the shaky camera and how dark it was.
You see how wet it is here and everything?
It's like everything's a little bit dirty.
Everything's a little bit grungy.
But which is weird.
Why is there water dripping from the roof inside a spaceship?
But you don't care.
You don't care because it looks cool.
It looks cool, and you need that balance.
You need that balance of the artificial and the organic, and it really sells it.
It's a bizarre mise-en-scene.
It's a bizarre feeling that you get from this film, unlike anything else that came before it.
Now, I think the reason I think that people maybe can't appreciate it now, people who are born, you know, in the last 20 years or something, Is because this was such an iconic picture that it influenced everything that came after it.
So you will see so many things that look like Alien.
It's like Blade Runner, right?
How many movies after Blade Runner were the overpopulated city with the neon lights in the rain, you know?
I mean, it's just, you create a style and then everybody apes it afterwards.
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All right, one guy we haven't mentioned as of yet, Chris, and we have to doff our caps to the fact that he was, you know, lying in a back-breaking position through a table for, you know, days on end with things bursting out of his fake chest.
And that is, of course, John Hertz, So, John Hurt, this chest-burster scene.
Allegedly, the crew, the actors, weren't told what was going to happen, so when Veronica Cartwright gets sprayed with fake blood and she screams, That's Veronica Cartwright screaming because she didn't expect to be sprayed in the face.
How much of the success of this movie is down to hurt and the chestburster scene?
That's a great question because it's such an iconic scene.
I think we forget the impact of that moment at the time.
But the reality is there are so many iconic moments in this picture and there's like just look at the design of this alien and the fact that they gave him this sort of like slimy thing and the fact that I remember when I was a kid seeing the acid Melting through the floor and I just thought that is insane What a crazy idea like who thought of that who was like, oh, you know what even if you can cut it It's blood will kill you.
It's the best defense mechanism, right?
Yeah, and like that little, that doesn't really come back into the picture at any point.
There's no point in which that becomes a thing, but it just adds to the terror.
You're just like, this thing is just pure violence and evil and hate.
And it's just like, you know, it's a terrifying thing.
Everything about this picture was clever.
And new and brilliant.
So at the time, I don't know if the chestburster scene, of course it was like one of the most iconic moments in the picture, but it's one of maybe a dozen or so iconic moments in this film.
It's just jam-packed full of them.
Yeah, Ron Cobb, who was one of the designers for the overall, you know, the vehicles in Ostromo, he described this movie, and I love this description, as a bad dream you can't forget.
Right.
Isn't that good?
Yeah, it really is.
I mean, think about the fact that you have the facehugger.
That's a completely new idea.
I'd never heard of that.
You've got this idea of another dead alien race that have already been destroyed by this alien, you know, in the ship at the beginning.
You've got the little thing that bursts out of his stomach and then it actually grows quite quickly into an adult.
Yeah, it takes a couple of hours to go from yay big to eight foot tall, which is quite impressive.
Quite a bit of a growth spurt there.
Then they've got this idea of like it opens its mouth and then another little mouth comes out of its mouth.
I mean, like that's a completely crazy thing.
I mean, there's so many things.
And then they have a pet cat.
Which then brings me back to sort of like real life, you know, just like everybody has a pet cat, right?
So it's like we're very relatable in that way.
You know, you take this very unrelatable circumstance and you make it relatable through the acting and the fact that I've got a pet cat and these kind of things.
There's just so many crazy ideas in this picture.
It's almost like, it really is almost unbelievable how brilliant this film is.
But not only the ideas, we have to talk about the execution of the ideas.
I mean, just this scene here, cutting the face hugger, and just that second, that laser, the blood comes out straight through the floor, and then afterwards, when the thing dies, And they put it on the lab table, and they've built it with, I don't know, you know, mussels and oysters and cow belly or whatever, and Ash is peeling it apart.
Dude, I'm sorry.
If aliens existed, they would look like that thing on the table, Chris.
Yeah, and like I said, they take the time to show the fascination of the characters of the thing that they're looking at.
I think like, something like Star Wars, everything in Star Wars is sort of like normal to the characters.
Everybody just kind of looks at everything normal.
Maybe the lightsaber, when Luke first gets the lightsaber, he's like, oh this is cool, I've never seen one of these before, right?
But this movie is more relatable to a regular human.
Because if we were in that circumstance, and we were introduced to this crazy alien you've never seen before, we would have that same fascination.
And they'd really take care to... Okay, so they got the facehugger on, how do we deal with this?
How do we take it off?
And they take so long...
You know, they take so much time to try to meticulously try to take this face hugger off of this guy.
They take so much time in the film to do that, but it's totally worth it.
It totally makes sense because that is reality.
That's how we would actually act in that circumstance.
And like you said, and they get everything to look just right.
It's just, this film is pure precision from beginning to end.
And all done, Chris.
For $8,000,000.
Not too bad.
Yeah.
It was a lower budget project.
Originally budgeted $4,000,000, ended up costing $8,000,000.
By today's standards, that's the craft services.
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All right, one moment is...
Is there a little bit of a cheat?
Is there a little bit of a lack of subtlety?
It's a classic jump scare, although it is creepy, even when I watched it this morning.
She's sitting in mother.
She's now in control because the captain has been killed.
So Ripley becomes from first officer to officer in charge, and she goes into mother.
And she finds out about Order 937, the crew is expendable.
And suddenly she's breaking down, reading that they're all expendable, and then Ash says hello to her.
Somehow Ash crept into the Mother Control pod without her knowing, and then she flips up.
Is that a cheap jump scare, or do you think that's just Ripley leveling up the horror?
No, no, it's not cheap.
It's not cheap.
You need those in these kinds of pictures because there's so much suspense.
I mean, I would say the vast majority of this project is you're wondering when something scary is going to happen and you're worried about it and you're wondering about it and you need those little moments of relief.
I think it's good.
To me, probably the most intense scare or the most sort of unexpected moment is when, at the very end, the alien hand drops out.
Oh, the hand.
When the hand comes out from the escape craft in the black.
Exactly.
And that moment, I timed it, was like more than 10 minutes.
It must have been hard to shoot, because that whole scene was with a strobe.
Do you remember?
Yeah.
They hid the alien, which is beautiful.
You barely see the alien in full form.
and there's a strobe going in and out and then this this hand just oh what a moment what a moment they must have figured out like okay this is a this is an animal And how do animals act, right?
Animals aren't always hunting, like predators aren't always hunting.
They have to sleep sometimes.
And what do they do when they sleep?
They hide away in some kind of like little, you know, protected area.
This is exactly what he does.
He finds this little cozy place to hide out and he's sleeping in there.
What a crazy idea.
Okay, at the end of the movie, she finds it sleeping.
This gives her an opportunity to try to like set things up to kill it.
But it's real.
It's what you really would see.
Like, if you were trapped in a room with a wild animal, most likely where you're going to find it, it's probably going to be sleeping, hopefully.
But hopefully you're not trapped.
And then you get your trusty spear gun that you keep next to your spacesuit.
Because all spaceships have spear guns.
But this, when she is in the suit, And give her credit, she's a huge Libyan anti-gun activist, which is weird given all the roles she's played.
But the singing of, lucky, lucky, lucky, I'm your lucky star, you know this woman is convinced she's gonna die.
She's utterly petrified and then she sings this little song to herself to try and calm her nerves, Chris.
Again, yeah, again, it's like the naturalism of having the animal sleep in a little thing.
The naturalism of like, what would somebody do in a situation in which they have to calm their nerves, they don't know what else to do.
So she just starts unconsciously singing a song to herself.
I mean, it's To me, it's like nuts how smart this movie is.
Again, like these little details.
You know, one thing about the power of this film at the time, it wasn't just that it was like, you know, cool and had all these smart ideas and everything like that.
It's like, if you can do something that other people don't think that they can do, people find it impressive.
Right?
That's like a professional skill, something like that.
Right.
If I make a film that's just sort of like, You know, me and a camera, and I'm walking around the desert or something like that, and I'm, you know, and I film myself doing it.
People would say, okay, I could probably make that movie.
That's not that impressive.
It's, it's, it's, maybe it's a good story, whatever.
I don't think anybody watched this movie and thought, I could make that movie.
They thought, how the heck did they do this?
This is mind-blowingly impressive, right?
Every moment from the beginning to the end is something that nobody can do.
It's mind-boggling.
How do you make the models?
How do you act this well?
How do you create such a brilliant story?
How do you create an alien that looks like that?
Everything is so good and so impressive and so professional that I think that audiences at the time were just, their minds were just blown watching this.
And this scene with the alien being blown out, so they...
They changed the geography of it, so the ground is actually in the direction of what the alien is going to fall in, and they blew water out of the jets, so the lights from the jets were actually being intensified by the water that's been sprayed onto the guy in the suit.
Where do you stand on Ridley Scott?
Because I love Ridley Scott, I love Blade Runner, but we're lucky with this movie because if you look at the previous movie, if you look at the dualists, Ridley was just a visual guy.
He didn't really talk to his actors, he couldn't give a crap about giving them guidance, that's why Harrison Ford hated him.
And he was just this amazing, he made his name in advertising in the UK doing these iconic advertisements and basically he was a painter.
You look at the dualists and every scene is like a painting of the classic era.
Here what you have is Amazing visuals, but then you've got the added creativity of Geiger, of Rimbaldi, of the music of Goldsmith, plus these actors and a great script.
So here, it's like the ultimate recipe, isn't it?
Yeah, and you know, sometimes, like you said, sometimes you just get lucky.
And I think that the combination of like, whoever was doing the casting for this project, And Ridley Scott's, like, hands-off approach to the actors, I think worked really well here.
That could have been a disaster in another kind of project, but because these actors were just so dang good, I think letting them do what they wanted to do and letting the acting be a little dirty and a little muddy, having people talk over each other, not having the audio always recorded perfectly, you know, maybe some of the takes weren't the perfect take.
I think that that messiness really creates this, uh, because anytime you're doing something into like a fantasy or sci-fi genre, it's not realistic, right?
There's nothing realistic about this.
So you've got to do everything you can to make it believable and naturalistic.
And so I think that that is accomplished in spades in this picture.
And maybe that's, this is such a crazy scene.
But just also note, In addition to the messiness and the darkness, the moments of precision.
If you haven't seen this movie in a while, or you haven't seen this movie in ages, watch the chestburster scene, not for what John Hurt does, because, man, he sells it.
I mean, after the thing comes out of his chest, his twitching hands, I mean, everything.
It's amazing.
Watch Ian Holm.
Watch Ash's face during the meal.
Little tells that he knows that Kane has been inseminated.
He knows something's up.
Just the fine, fine precision acting on Ian Holm's face is truly remarkable.
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All right, can't believe we are almost near the end of our discussion.
I want to go back right to the beginning of the movie.
First things first, this morning when I switched it on, do you know what it's like?
You're a little bit older than me, but I think it applies to you.
When you watch an old movie and you see the animation I'm so glad you brought that up because I thought exactly the same thing.
I just thought, man, this is such a beautiful introduction.
you're into something when you see that classics fox intro from the 80s you're in for a good time right i'm so glad you brought that up because i say i thought exactly the same thing i just thought man this is such a beautiful introduction it brings back so many fond memories right it's so strange to think that this movie was filmed 43 years ago 44 years ago came out 43 years ago Isn't that crazy?
And it doesn't, it doesn't really feel like it.
It's a timeless film.
Really.
I mean, you could watch it today and if you had the patience and you weren't completely like, you know, brainwashed by modern cinema, you, you could really, you know, you could really enjoy this and think that this is a modern classic or, or, you know, from the last 10 years or something.
It's just, it's just, it's, I don't know.
There's something magical about films from the late 70s, early 80s, like this, Indiana Jones, a lot of the films we talk about on this program.
There's a magic that is lost I don't know how you get it back.
Maybe it's lost partly due to the computer generated graphics that we now have in film and cinema.
They kind of did something like this in Stranger Things and the way they did it was just by copying the way films were made in the 80s.
You know what I mean?
So I don't know how you get that Grandness of cinema back, but there is, there should be a way and hopefully we find it.
Good, good writing.
I mean, it's got to start with a good story and good writing.
I think you're right.
And in the beginning, after we've seen the credits roll, just that whole, whatever it was, five, six minute opening of the ship slowly coming to life.
Yeah.
The lights coming on, the computer switching on, the hibernation chambers opening, people groggily getting up.
The pacing is so unlike anything today, but it's just subtle and it works.
Well, they take so much time for the set design, for the models, for all this kind of stuff.
They want to show it off.
They want to show off the thing that they think nobody has ever seen before.
Now I feel like people think, OK, everybody's seen everything, so we'll just quickly show all the stuff and we'll get to the story.
And back then they understood, OK, this, you know, in order to get to sell this model, we've got to move everything very slowly to make it look much bigger than it actually is.
You know, we've got to give weight to it.
We've got to give a grandiose moment.
And they do tend to try to do that.
They do kind of mimic that in modern films a little bit.
But I think because of the computer-generated nature of everything, things are a little bit quicker paced.
Things don't take that time to really show the detail and emphasize, you know, this is an important moment.
Yeah, for sure.
I think you're right, though, when it comes to how do you actually get that magic back of like an 80s film?
I do think that it comes down to story and script.
One thing we haven't mentioned that ties into what happened after Aliens is the space jockey, which is... I love this in movies, when there's something that just grabs you.
It's like, whoa, what is that?
No explanation, zero backstory.
It's like, allow your imagination to just run wild.
This huge figure looks like some kind of elephant man in a cockpit, his chest burst open.
This will lead the way to following movies, including the recent ones like Covenant and everything else.
But the ones that came after this, I have to say Cameron and Aliens.
I can watch this movie any day of the week.
It's on my phone.
If I'm on a plane and I want to have some fun, I'll watch Aliens.
And then we have Three and then we have Resurrection.
Any comments you'd like to make on the rest of the universe, Mr. Coles?
Unfortunately, I did see Alien Resurrection in the movie theater.
We don't need to talk about it.
It was a traumatic moment in my life.
I will say again with Aliens, a lot of people consider Aliens to be a superior film to Alien, and I will say that I have not seen that all the way through either.
What?!
Again, I've seen it in bits.
I've never seen the full thing all the way through.
You cannot be the co-host of this show unless you watch it this weekend, all right?
It's a very different film.
It's a different genre.
It's, you know, like a war movie in space, but it's lots of fun, lots of fun.
And then Alien 3, did you see that on the prison planet?
Many years ago.
I saw it when I was quite young.
But I have seen that one all the way through.
But I don't really remember it 100%.
All right.
We will save aliens for another day.
But this is the time where we... Any final words on the original alien?
No, just one of the greatest films ever made, and everybody needs to watch it.
Yeah, make time, switch off the phone, and just watch it.
I watched the director's cut that has an extra scene with Captain Dallas.
You can choose whichever you want to watch.
There's no big difference between the directors and the theatrical.
But watch the movie.
Next, I think I get to choose.
Yep.
I've mentioned it enough times before.
Let's stay in the wheelhouse of a certain cigar-smoking commercial director.
Ridley Scott.
We're probably gonna have to dedicate three hours to this one because it's my favorite.
Are you ready for some Blade Runner, Mr. Reagan?
You're never going to believe this.
I've never seen that all the way through from beginning to end.
Well, we're going to edumacate you.
We are going to edumacate you here on America First.
Trouble here is there's like 48 different versions out there.
Well, there's actually five versions.
I will try to find the theatrical, the original theatrical.
Try and watch the theatrical that has the voiceover because I think the voiceover really Harrison Ford may have hated doing it, but it is what makes it that kind of modern sci-fi noir, when you've got the detective doing the voiceover like Bogie or anybody else, or Robert Mitchum.
So either that one or the directors without the voiceover, either one, we can discuss them.
And next time, it's going to be Blade Runner.
We may have to carve out a little extra time for that one.
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