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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Latest on the FBI agent arrest

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I did not.
	Do you see any reason for anyone to take classified documents with them leaving the White House?
	Well, there'd be no reason to have classified documents, particularly if they were in an unprotected area.
	That's weird.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	Greetings.
	This is America First.
	With me, your host, Sebastian Gorka.
	That's the former vice president, Mike Pence, who, in an interview, said that nobody would have any reason to maintain classified documents.
	That was a CNN exclusive.
	A little flashback, also from CNN.
	Just two hours ago.
	Headline.
	First on CNN.
	Classified documents found at Pence's Indiana home.
	A lawyer for former Vice President Mike Pence discovered about a dozen documents marked as classified at Pence's Indiana home last week, and he has turned those classified records over to the FBI.
	Multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN.
	The FBI and the Justice Department's National Security Division have launched a review of the documents and how they ended up in Pence's home in Indiana.
	The classified documents were discovered at Pence's new home in Carmel, Indiana, by a lawyer for Pence in the wake of the revelations about classified material discovered in President Joe Biden's private office and residence, the sources say.
	How weird?
	Why is it always lawyers?
	Eric, isn't it a bit of a coincidence that it was Biden's lawyers who found the top secret SCI documents in his quote-unquote office in DC and now it's Pence's lawyers?
	It is really weird, but I almost, I think I want to agree with what a previous caller said, that at this point I'd almost trust lawyers before I'd trust the FBI or the deep state to handle this matter.
	Yeah, but you know why it's lawyers, don't you, Eric?
	Of course, of course.
	Client, attorney, privilege!
	So they can't say what is in the documents.
	It's ever so sneaky.
	By the way, how did Bob do yesterday while I was out filming my new TV show?
	How did Mr. Franz do?
	He did fantastic!
	There's a reason we keep having him back on, and the audience loves him.
	Geoff, do you concur?
	How did Mr. France do yesterday?
	Yes, he did very good.
	Alright, what's your take on this?
	Now they're going after Pence.
	Are there documents that Joe has so implicating and so bad that now they're just throwing shade on everyone?
	I don't think they're going after Pence.
	I think Pence didn't want to get caught up with it, so he decided to turn him in quickly himself.
	That's what I think happened.
	I don't think there's any target at Pence because it said something about how he found documents and he contacted them last week.
	So you think he was just doing a little, uh, advanced cleanup?
	Yes, exactly.
	Interesting.
	All right, the biggest story.
	Oh my gosh, the call board is lighting up.
	The number here is 833-333-GORKA.
	Let's get your take as well and have you sound off on the big topics of the day.
	833-334-6752.
	The biggest story.
	333-334-6752, the biggest story.
	One that will take quite a bit of work to uncover what's really going on.
	And that's why we have Greg Jarrett with us.
	Why we have John Solomon with us late today.
	The head of counterintelligence for the FBI's biggest field office in New York was just arrested for working with the Russians.
	Amongst other things.
	Amongst other nations.
	Literally receiving cash payments, in one case to the tune of a quarter of a million dollars.
	An individual who was at the center of the Trump-Russia hoax.
	An individual who was best buddies With Jim Comey.
	Jim Comey being the person who actually sent this individual to New York to be head of counterintelligence.
	Now, the question you have to ask, given what we know about corruption at the DOJ and the FBI, it's just a natural... Well, in fact, it's a very important question to ask.
	Why this arrest?
	And why now?
	If the FBI has been very happy to politically target individuals who are associated with the Trump administration and President Trump, from Mike Flynn on down to Peter Navarro to Steve Bannon and on and on and on Carter Page, why this?
	Why would they take out somebody who is crucial to those original political targeting actions, operations like Crossfire Hurricane?
	Is it because there is something much, much bigger?
	Is it a distraction ploy?
	Or is it because now conservatives control the lower house, control the house, and have not only people like Jim Jordan as the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, but have already created a new subcommittee on the political weaponization of both the DOJ and the FBI Is that the reason?
	Just like Pence trying to get ahead of things to cover himself.
	Is this the FBI?
	Is this the DNC?
	Is this the Biden administration trying to get ahead of things before the Republicans start to dig?
	It sounds plausible as a theory, doesn't it?
	There's one issue with it, however.
	And that is the question of whether or not the Republicans will be serious.
	Do you remember Benghazi?
	Do you remember somebody called Trey Gowdy who promised us he would get to the bottom of it?
	We'll get Hillary Clinton on the stand.
	We'll cross-examine her.
	And, well, she appeared.
	What did she say famously?
	Well, rather infamously.
	Perhaps one of the most cynical statements ever made on the record by any politician in U.S.
	politics.
	With regards to Chris Stevens and the three others who were murdered by Al-Qaeda affiliates in Benghazi at the State Department annex, the images are still horrific of Ambassador Stevens with a blackened face from the fire being dragged out of the compound before he was brutally murdered.
	And I mean brutally murdered.
	The medical report on his body.
	Well, I can't say what happened to him on live radio.
	But when Hillary, her, his boss, because she was Secretary of State and he was an ambassador, when he asked, literally scores of times, For extra security.
	We need more DOS, we need more Department of State, DSS, Diplomatic Security Service Protection.
	Again and again and again he asked her, and she said no.
	When that was raised by Trey Gowdy, the great prosecutor, what did Hillary respond?
	At this point, what difference does it make?
	Yeah, he's dead.
	Somebody who, by the way, she called a friend.
	Can you imagine if a friend of yours talked about you like that after you'd been killed violently?
	What difference does it make?
	He's dead!
	Do we expect another pathetic investigation?
	Look, Trey Gowdy's no Jim Jordan.
	And we expect great things from Jim Jordan.
	But will the GOP get serious?
	Time will tell.
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	Hello, who's this? who's this?
	Hi, this is Albert.
	I'm calling from Bethel Park.
	Don't you mean Sam?
	Is it that slow of a news day that the only thing you can talk about is Benghazi?
	Something that happened like ten years ago?
	Do you know that there's been three mass shootings in the past week?
	Dude, I love that you listen to this show.
	How come you listen to this show?
	Is that the best you got is Benghazi, really?
	That's the news of the day.
	How come you're listening to the show?
	I love it.
	Do all your lip-tart friends listen as well?
	I'm just asking, that's all you got?
	Benghazi?
	Oh dude, I've got two and a half more hours, and I'm really happy you're listening, you sad sack of excrement.
	I mean, I'm done listening, but uh... You're not listening!
	So how do you know what I talked about, you frickin' imbecile?
	Gosh, you guys are so dumb!
	Just so dumb!
	You can't even call in without making yourself look so stupid!
	Thank you dude, that was excellent.
	Ta-ta!
	Oh, you talk about the same thing over and over again.
	Let's talk about another mass shooting.
	Oh my gosh, yeah.
	And I talk about Benghazi so much.
	Can you grab line two?
	Yeah, the context in which it was used.
	Got titles in mind for Jim or for the monologue?
	Yeah, for the monologue.
	Something to do with Benghazi, just for him.
	Or I guess maybe the Mike Pence angle.
	Yeah, can I have room at 222 please?
	Two minutes.
	So now Pence has classified documents illegally?
	Question mark.
	Classified documents illegally, alrighty.
	Jim.
	Jim.
	What should we say for Jim?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's maybe something... It could hit the Crowder thing, or maybe... Oh.
	Yeah.
	Crowder, the Daily Wire, and Conservative Media.
	Got it.
	Want the mics on for Greg?
	Mic's off.
	Hi, this is President Trump, and Sebastian is really a friend of mine.
	He's a great guy.
	He's been with me from the beginning.
	Listen to him.
	We all learn.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Welcome back to America First.
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	We've got to talk about his latest piece and then get on to the news of Charles McGonigal, the FBI head of counterintelligence in New York, who was arrested yesterday.
	But Greg Jarrett, welcome back to America First.
	I love the title of your latest piece for Fox News.
	Biden's next classified documents defense may be corn pop, did it?
	So are we already moving from the it's with my Corvette to the corn pop defense, Greg?
	Yeah, I mean, it's sort of a whack-a-mole rebuttal every time a new classified document pops up.
	On Joe Biden's premises.
	And, you know, every new disclosure really precipitates this head-banging rationalization from the President.
	At first, it was dismissed as merely inadvertent.
	Then the second one was completely pardonable under, as you know, the well-known, well-established Corvette defense.
	Oh, yes.
	Well, know it well.
	Know it well.
	Yeah.
	You know, it was Stunning to me that he had the arrogance to then claim he had no regrets.
	No regrets for jeopardizing America's national security.
	And, you know, he keeps insisting over and over that he takes classified documents seriously, but the running joke is he just takes classified documents.
	And I, you know, it didn't surprise me that one day after he claimed there was no there there, the DOJ and FBI find more there there inside his Delaware estate.
	My question is, why haven't they checked all of the other locations?
	The Rehoboth Beach retreat that he uses frequently.
	What about the University of Delaware, where he donated his Senate Documents that nobody is allowed to see until two years after he leaves public office.
	I mean, this latest batch inside his home that we found out about on Saturday, it's not just classified documents from his tenure as Vice President, but the U.S.
	Senate, which he left 14 years ago.
	So for how many years, how many decades, have malign actors been able to gain access Uh, to classify documents that Joe Biden kept.
	His brand new book is The Trial of the Century on the Scopes Monkey trial.
	You've got to follow him at TheGregJarrett.com and Greg Jarrett on Twitter.
	However, you are the author of the seminal works Witch Hunt and The Russia Hoax, so you have a lot to say, Greg, about the arrest of this head of counterintelligence for the FBI, Charles McGonigal.
	Why is this arrest so important, given the topic of your prior works, Greg?
	Well, it underscores that the entire Trump-Russia collusion hoax was manufactured and engineered by bad people.
	At the FBI, and not just, as I explain in my books, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, you know, the whole gang of people, even an FBI lawyer who doctored evidence in order to gain the crooked FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign.
	No, McGonigal, you know, was the head of counterintelligence in the New York office, and he was knee-deep in the Russia hoax.
	And as everyone is now recognizing, you know, while the FBI was falsely accusing Trump of colluding with Russia, the FBI was colluding with Russia.
	This guy McGonigal was on the payroll of a Russian oligarch, Deripaska, who was being sanctioned by the United States.
	And it's a crime to try to undermine those sanctions, which is why McGonigal was arrested.
	And who else worked for Derry Pasker?
	Isn't there a certain seminal figure from the British intelligence, Greg?
	Yeah, Christopher Steele.
	One of the most despicable characters you'll ever run across.
	Who was, you know, triple dipping and he was getting paid by Hillary Clinton to fabricate the dossier.
	He's on the FBI payroll as a lying source.
	And he's also on the payroll of Oleg Deripaska.
	Once again, undermining, and it's a crime, U.S.
	crime, but it's also an international crime.
	And, you know, Chris Steele should have been arrested a long time ago for, you know, everything from committing fraud on the United States government with his dossier, but also for his involvement with Taraposca.
	Do you have any theory, Greg, as to why this person was arrested, given how corrupt we know the FBI is?
	Is there a bigger shoe to drop?
	Is this a distraction ploy?
	What does your gut tell you?
	Well, my guess is that the evidence that was against him was about to come out, and the government decided to get ahead of it and instead of covering it up, which is what the FBI and the Department of Justice does under Merrick Garland, they decided they had no choice but to bring criminal charges.
	against McGonagall and he was arrested and you know I think the case against him is is pretty strong He deserves the presumption of innocence I'll be interested to hear what his defense is because you know the The paper trail of the money that was flowing into his bank account is is damning evidence and And, you know, there's little options in the way of explaining it.
	So I don't think McGonigal is the only bad actor with the FBI.
	In fact, the upper echelons of the Hoover building are filled with him.
	Not only the money flowing into Charles McGonigal's bank account, the charge sheet, the indictment even mentions he met with one of the corrupt individuals buying him off and he told him to bring the quarter of a million dollars in cash and they handed it over as they were sitting in a parked vehicle.
	Absolutely unbelievable.
	Legal and political analyst for Fox News, you've got to follow him at TheGregJarrett.
	The website also at Greg Jarrett.
	Two G's, two R's, two T's on Twitter.
	The books are Witch Hunt and The Russia Hoax.
	And the brand new one you can pre-order right now is The Trial of the Century.
	Thank you, Greg.
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	Amen.
	Title for that one?
	Who is Charles?
	Hashtag FBI corruption.
	Who is Charles McGonagall?
	Can you play the Lindsey Graham cut again? - Um.
	Lindsey Graham.
	Uh, yes.
	What are your national security questions?
	I just, what was, you know, same thing for Trump.
	I mean, why did you do it?
	What were in the documents?
	How were they held?
	Who had access to them?
	Let me just say this.
	I've known President Biden for a long time.
	I don't think there's... I would be shocked if there's anything sinister here.
	Crazy.
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	Oh, okay.
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	Okay, good.
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	When you found out
	that the FBI had located even more classified materials in Wilmington, which four-letter word did you use? - Oh my goodness, Peter.
	I think she's genuinely laughing there.
	At this point, I gotta think, are these things rehearsed?
	You know, with Peter Doocy and Corinne Jean-Pierre.
	I'm surprised she even calls on him anymore.
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	David, welcome to America First.
	Oh, thanks for taking my call, Dr. G. Hey, listen, since the conversation is documents, shouldn't we now, before I say this, I know the Republicans, they're like barking dogs with no teeth.
	Isn't this the perfect, I could be wrong, I'm asking you, wouldn't this be the perfect time to revisit Hillary Clinton, who had a server in her home and was fooling with Documents either classified or unclassified.
	I realize it's probably a dead-end street, but as long as the conversation is this, and they're talking about pants and so forth, wouldn't this be a good time to investigate that while the topic is hot?
	I think it's a great idea.
	If, David, they do it seriously.
	Do you have any expectation that the GOP will have a serious investigation?
	No, I don't.
	And it breaks my heart because I believe, like I said earlier, I was being foolish when I said they're like dogs with no teeth.
	All of that talk and no action, and I'm afraid nothing's going to happen.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Look, if they do do it seriously, and they seem to be.
	Allegedly, the reports are that they're already investigating Hunter Biden.
	They're already investigating the continual classified document drops regarding the Hunter Biden home that Joe Biden was living in.
	So, we shall see.
	But I think your suggestion is a superb suggestion.
	Yes, absolutely.
	If you're going to look at transgressions, if you're going to do it Look at flagrant abuses of the Espionage Act and the handling of classified documents.
	Well, start with the woman who had at least, at least 12 of the most secret documents copied off a classified server and then smuggled onto her own unsecured server.
	I think that's a great place to begin.
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	Good, good, good, good. good.
	Let's talk about that piece you sent on China Bank University, but then can we talk about McGonigal?
	Yeah, sure.
	Yeah, he's the guy that's at the ignition point of the Russia collusion case.
	Good, good, good, good.
	Do you have any theory as to why they've dropped the shoe on him now?
	I think statute of limitations on some of the stuff.
	Some of the sanctioned stuff is two years.
	But yeah, it's it's a shocking case, because he really starts working for Deripaska while he's still in the Bureau.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	And then isn't there a link to CFCC, the Chinese energy company?
	Or is that not clear yet?
	No, not Deripaska and CFC.
	Hunter Biden wanted to bring various Russian and Chinese forces together, but he was in, he was in aluminum, not in gas.
	So he wouldn't have been interested in the CFC.
	Okay.
	70 seconds.
	He's the guy that was, his lawyer was talking to Mark Warner back in 2017.
	It's a story I broke.
	Right, right, right.
	He funded a multimillion dollar operation to rescue an FBI agent for the FBI.
	Huh.
	Another story I broke.
	So, I can give you- He's like the Forrest Gump of Russian Caloosan.
	Yeah.
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	Yeah, great to be with you, Seb.
	So, I have to talk to you about this McGonigal arrest, which is huge, and you know how he is everywhere when it comes to the Russian collusion hoax.
	However, you did send me a story about Biden's quote, drive to tap earnings potential, what a lovely phrase, led to family ties to a China-backed university and an energy deal.
	What on earth is this story, John?
	Listen, it's very important to understand that one of Hunter Biden's motivations when he was out there shaking the tree in foreign lands like Ukraine, Russia, China, was that his father had asked him, very shortly after he joined the Obama administration as Vice President, To determine his earnings potential.
	That's an email from 2010 where Joe Biden talks to the business partner, one of Hunter Biden's business partners, and Hunter Biden.
	By 2016, that conversation had evolved into, how am I going to engage in wealth creation?
	That's another memo from 2016.
	Joe Biden was obsessed with, when he was in the private sector, how was he going to get rich?
	And his son, Hunter Biden, was the point man.
	He's the person negotiating with the University of Pennsylvania and courting the The president there before she hires Joe Biden for a $911,000 gig at the university, which gave us the Penn-Biden Center and the classified documents.
	Now, he's the guy out there trying to make the deal, the 10% for the big guy, the CEFC China energy deal, where the Biden family walks away with a 3.2 carat diamond.
	That's a handsome rock.
	And $5 million in an interest-free Forgivable loan that the family enriched itself with.
	So the drive for Joe Biden's wealth is what's driving Hunter Biden to engage in some of these conversations.
	It's probably also why he complains he has to give so much of his money when he's talking to his sister to a dad, why he's paying dad's bills.
	Understanding that motive allows us to understand the risk now that the United States faces from the fact that Joe Biden had these classified documents at his home, where Hunter Biden lived for a long time, and at this University of Pennsylvania Center that the Chinese gave so much money to the university.
	It isn't an accident that China was coming multiple ways at the Biden family, looking for ways to enrich it.
	And now the question is, what did the Biden family give in return?
	And are these classified documents in any way involved in that question?
	And that's what Congress is setting out to define and find out.
	Look, you're a pretty well-connected guy, John.
	I want to know, how many times have you received multi-million dollar non-repayable loans or big fat diamonds from somebody?
	Never!
	Never!
	I'm either in the wrong profession or maybe I'm in the right profession, because at the end of the day, I'm not sure an interest-free forgivable loan doesn't come with a lot of strings when it comes from communist China.
	Yeah, I would say so.
	All right.
	You said in the break he's like the Forrest Gump of the Russian collusion hoax.
	Will you tell our millions of listeners right now why this arrest of this FBI head of counterintelligence from New York, Charles McGonigal, is so potentially very significant?
	Yeah, well listen, Charles McGonigal is an FBI agent that sends the information that leads to the predication of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation, the bogus investigation into Russia-Trump collusion, which we now know didn't exist.
	He gives his information about Papadopoulos to an analyst, the analyst gives it to Pete Strzok, Pete Strzok writes a memo and opens up the entire investigation and we know how that saga is.
	But he's dealing with a Russian oligarch who, by the way, was at the center of the allegations from Christopher Steele.
	But let's go through Oleg Deripaska.
	Oleg Deripaska is the Russian oligarch that this FBI agent McGonigal is accused of trying to surreptitiously help in violation of U.S.
	sanctions.
	He is a Forrest Gump-like figure.
	He keeps showing up in the U.S.-Russia spy games.
	In 2009, the FBI approaches him, even though he's on a sanctions list, And says, we'd like you to fund a rescue operation.
	You, Russian oligarch, who the government of the United States has accused of wrongdoing, we want you to go help find our missing FBI agent in Iran, a guy named Levinson who is missing and the CIA wouldn't help find him.
	So the FBI put together a rogue operation under Robert Mueller, in which Deripaska goes out and tries to find information through his Iranian connections.
	In 2015, he's the guy that's hiring Christopher Steele to find dirt on some of his rivals.
	A year later, Christopher Steele's putting Oleg Deripaska into his narrative, saying, well, maybe Oleg Deripaska is the guy working with Paul Manafort that sews the whole Russia collusion case together.
	We know that not to be true.
	The FBI then shows up at Oleg Deripaska's home in 2016.
	And asked him, is there any Russian collusion going on?
	He says, no, you can trust me, there's not.
	They ignored that advice.
	Turns out Oleg Deripaska was right.
	The FBI was wrong.
	In 2017, Mark Warner's people are on the phone with his lawyer and Mark Warner himself is texting with Oleg Deripaska's lawyer, trying to get dirt on Donald Trump.
	So he shows up again.
	And not to add any more fun to this, but Hunter Biden even had a plan to make money off of Oleg Deripaska.
	He came up with an idea after his father gave a speech on aluminum wars around the world, and Oleg Deripaska was a big aluminum magnate, about how America could support Alcoa, the American aluminum maker.
	And Hunter Biden immediately turns around after that speech, which his father mentions Alcoa, and pitches himself to Alcoa saying, I'll dig up dirt on Oleg Deripaska.
	What are your foreign rivals?
	And said it to you, you pay me $80,000.
	So Democrats in the deep state have had this long twisted relationship with Oleg Deripaska.
	He just keeps showing up.
	Crazy.
	All right.
	We just got a couple of seconds left with John Solomon.
	Any idea why he's arrested now?
	Are they trying to get in front of a story before it blows elsewhere, given the problems at the FBI?
	Why now, John?
	What do you think?
	Well, this has been coming for a few months.
	There have been leaks about this for about six months, so it was expected.
	I think some of it involves statute of limitations, because you're coming up on the five-year mark on some of those.
	I don't think there's anything nefarious about the timing, but the behavior here... Think about this.
	The FBI wants to go accuse other people.
	It doesn't have its own house in order.
	Yeah, and not at a low level.
	We're talking about the former head of counterintelligence for the biggest field office out there in New York.
	He's John Solomon.
	Follow him at J. Solomon Reports.
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	And plug in John Solomon Fallout and tell me what you see.
	Doing it right now.
	Fallout.
	Yeah, his book's the top result.
	Oh, OK.
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	How do I reset Amazon?
	Who is Charles McGonagall?
	We kind of already did that for Jarrett.
	FBI corruption, who is Charles McGonigal?
	Charles McGonigal and Oleg Deripaska.
	Alright, Charles McGonigal and Oleg Deripaska.
	Oh no, no no, Charles McGonigal colon The Forrest Gump of the Russia hoax.
	Gump of the Russia hoax, yep.
	Yep.
	Yep, 70 seconds.
	Thank you.
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	And when you stop and think about it, it's pretty extraordinary that we, a select group of human beings, because of whatever touched us at some point in our lives, are able to sit in a room and come together and actually talk about saving are able to sit in a room and come together and actually I mean, it's so almost extraterrestrial to think about, quote, saving the planet.
	And if you said that to most people, most people, they think you're just a crazy tree-hugging, lefty, liberal, you know, do-gooder, whatever.
	And there's no relationship.
	But really, that's where we are.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Enjoying your piece, Conrad, on John Kerry.
	I thought you'd find that amusing.
	We're gonna come in with a cut from him and then we'll have some fun.
	Isn't he a ludicrous character?
	He's just stunning.
	Just, just... I mean... He's just an idiot.
	That's it.
	And he lives the caricature, if you said caricature of arrogant, stupid, preachy person on the environment.
	And he's there.
	He's a self-made caricature.
	That he is.
	The whole thing is basically a preloading scam on the Heinz family.
	You know, John Hines was a pretty good senator, I thought.
	I mean, I actually knew, you know, Jack Hines and Drew Hines quite well, and he was since when he died very tragically, and, you know, his loopy left-wing wife took up with Kerry, and they're just throwing the Hines money out of the windows.
	I know.
	On his private jets.
	On his private jets.
	All right, stand by 40 seconds, and we are live.
	Okay.
	Coming in with Kerry, no liner Alex?
	Yeah, coming in with Kerry.
	Yep.
	30 seconds. 30 seconds.
	30 seconds.
	and actually talk about saving the planet.
	I mean, it's so almost extraterrestrial to think about Quote, saving the planet.
	And if you said that to most people, most people, they think you're just a crazy tree-hugging, lefty, liberal, you know, do-gooder, whatever.
	And there's no relationship.
	But really, that's where we are.
	Sorry, sorry, where are you exactly?
	You said you're in a room talking about climate change.
	My oh my, is that impressive.
	Did something touch you as you say?
	Yeah, touched you in the head more like.
	That is the climate czar for this administration.
	A nation that, until Biden arrived, was energy independent, was actually exporting more energy than we could use.
	We'll discuss all that and more with the author of a brand new piece for the New York Sun, John Kerry lays another egg at Davos, the author of Donald J. Trump, a president like no other, Lord Conrad Black.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thanks very much, Sebastian.
	You described this article as alarmingly inane, or his speech as alarmingly inane.
	I put it to you, as we were saying in the break before we started, it's quite remarkable that if you wish to composite a caricature of a preachy, risible, member of the quote-unquote elite talking down to the rest of us, it would have to look very much like John Kerry, would it not?
	I'm afraid it would.
	I'm afraid he would check all the boxes.
	He married his money, which in fact also married money.
	So the money is two removes from him.
	And yet he lives like a very wealthy person as a result of it, and nothing wrong with that.
	But he preaches, as you say, a gospel that is not only unlike how he lives himself, it's nonsense.
	Every part of it is nonsense.
	It's bunk.
	What is he talking about?
	An extraterrestrial thing for a bunch of people to sit in the ridiculous, squalid, Swiss You can't call it a resort because it doesn't have proper hotels and talk about saving the planet.
	It's not extraterrestrial, it's just stupid and pretentious.
	I just have to mention it.
	That was in the international press that Davos was flooded last week, Conrad, by, how should I put this, ladies of negotiable virtue that were charging their high rent clientele, $2,500 per night.
	The idea that those who are preaching ethics and morals to us about gas stoves are emptying the brothels of Switzerland is a tad ironic.
	Not only is it ironic, but having gone to the Davos meetings for 20 years myself, because I actually found them, the communications group I was in with Rupert Murdoch and the late Robert Maxwell and Lord Rothermere and others, quite interesting.
	But I got around and the whole spirit of the meeting was just self-important nonsense.
	I put it to you that those ladies would have given a much better job of, you know, giving their money's worth than the ludicrous people babbling on at their endless forums and clean recessions.
	And probably better lectures on geopolitics as well.
	Those girls were not under any illusion about saving the planet.
	They were just doing their job.
	One thing I want to lift out of the article, getting down to brass tacks, the assertions that carbon use is solely responsible for global warming, that global warming is accelerating and is in itself harmful, and that the climate change that has occurred in the last century is abnormal, all of this is wild surmise.
	Now, that is an accurate statement, so help me understand how on earth It has become as if these statements have come down from Mount Sinai, carved on tablets of stone by the Creator himself.
	Well, I'm afraid we have to credit our ideological enemies.
	After we routed the international left in the Cold War, spontaneously, as far as I can see, there was no particular pre-planned strategy for this, but they spontaneously recognized The potential of the environmental movement.
	So, people who had been authentic conservationists.
	Now, some of them were quite tiresome.
	You remember, Greenpeace would harass American aircraft carriers when they came into harbors and things like that.
	But they were authentic environmentalists, the Sierra Club and these people.
	They wanted to, you know, they were very keen to make sure the environment was properly minded.
	Nothing wrong with that.
	And many of them are specialists, you know, like bird watchers and that sort of thing.
	All fine people.
	But the left crowded in, shouldered these people aside, and recognized that this was a new way to attack capitalism, skulking behind the skirts of these authentic conservationists, and purporting to be attacking capitalism in order to save the planet.
	And again, I would never have suspected that they were capable of such improvisation, but nor would I have suspected that the forces of capitalism would be so vulnerable.
	I mean, now we have all of these large companies professing to be terribly environmentally avant-garde.
	You see on television, Advertisements from the major oil companies saying how they're planning a fossil fuel free future.
	In other words, they're promising to commit suicide as a business.
	I mean, I had to look up something about one of the big auditors the other day, Google, Google, the company and KPMG, one of the world's four great auditors.
	And the whole thing was what we are doing at the World Economic Forum.
	Well, what are we doing at the World Economic Forum?
	A bunch of accountants.
	Somehow or other, the international left got back on their feet very quickly, very cleverly, and discovered an Achilles heel that I didn't know we had.
	The large chunk of our capitalist system has no conviction that what it's doing is the best way to build the economy.
	So here's a question for you as the former head of the Hollinger Group, one of the biggest media outfits of its type as an international business leader.
	What is the likely explanation for whether it's KPMG, Disneyland, Coca-Cola or anybody else Going woke, is it, as some have posited, because, you know, all the kids who got their degrees in sustainability and gender studies ended up running the HR departments, or is it a form of insurance?
	They don't want to get on the bad side of BLM or Greta Thunberg, so they say, oh yes, we're on your side.
	Is there a simple, univalent answer for why they went so anti-capitalist?
	Maybe not quite as simple as that, but I think you put your finger on a key part of it.
	They're terrified, just in a tactical sense, of any sort of a boycott or any public relations problem.
	I don't want to oversimplify or be glib about it, but you may remember that 40 years or so ago, there was a tremendous movement to force companies to divest from South Africa because of the apartheid policy, which was a An evil and repulsive policy.
	Now, I'm not for a moment trying to defend it, but I don't think that, and I didn't think then, that the correct way to deal with it was to have people come to annual meetings and heckle and disrupt things if the company whose meeting they were attending happened to own a factory in South Africa.
	But always, I have found business terribly lacking in courage.
	Where people can start a movement and harass them in public and start to besmirch them with the assistance of the media, where there's always a lot of left-wing troublemaking going on in the media.
	And if you can smear a company, it's rare that you'll find a journalist who wouldn't participate in that.
	So I think it's fear more than strategy.
	But it's a combination of both.
	Just a fear of what would happen if they were suddenly attacked for political purpose.
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	The first Davos meeting you went to, Conrad. Conrad.
	I I think it was 2003.
	And the value was just for networking, or was there actually a substantive program that was worth your time?
	It wasn't either.
	It was discussing with some of the other newspaper owners or executives, just talking shop.
	I mean, at one of the meetings, Rupert Murdoch and I had a very productive discussion about cover price.
	So like, just like an, you know, valuable offsite meeting.
	Exactly.
	I mean, we were that and also I found some of the presentations on where the media was going, you know, these were the early days of the internet.
	And some of the people came in and talked about what could be done with the internet, but I found that very informative.
	So there was less of the preaching down.
	None of it.
	In our section, in the media section, no one was preaching.
	And we had people like, well, anyone you can think of.
	We had Gates at times, we had Steve Clark who was, you know, America Online, and Sunder Redstone.
	All these guys would come, and comparable people from other countries.
	And you could really get a lot of business talked about and to some extent accomplished.
	That's what I was there.
	I did not do any networking, and I never went to, you know, these general sessions talking about nonsensical things.
	But, you know, I ran from hotel to hotel to get away from the then premier of Quebec.
	Not that I disliked him, I just didn't particularly want to talk to him.
	But, you know, what you do is you have Well, as you know, you've got a large number of people who are well-to-do and like to sort of rub shoulders with and say, well, I heard from so-and-so last week, you know.
	I mean, not exactly groupies, but a bit of that, you know.
	Yeah.
	And then they provide the money.
	And what goes on is just these people essentially preening their feathers and doing their thing.
	I mean, all these people are Outright conférencier.
	They just go from conference to conference and they get well paid for it.
	Yes.
	Ninety.
	Oh my gosh.
	All right.
	I'm going to use the, um, the cut.
	Oh no, actually come in with the meat.
	Then I'll, then I'll tee up Kamala Harris and between the two, I'll do a quick read.
	Okay.
	All right.
	All right.
	You want the phones open?
	Sure.
	Oh, something cool I actually wanted to say to Conrad real quick.
	So, um, my dad was digging around in my grandfather's shed looking for, you know, just some of the stuff he had that we never knew about.
	He collected lots of campaign pins over the years, a lot of Nixon especially, including his first run in 60, and a few from Eisenhower.
	We thought for the longest time the oldest pin he had was from Wendell Wilkie in 44, but in this new batch my dad found a pin for the Republican presidential ticket of Landon and Knox.
	Yep, well, and Knox said that another four years of the Roosevelt administration, the country would be bankrupt, and four years later, Knox was in the administration as Secretary of the Navy.
	Wow.
	That's right.
	Yep.
	30 seconds.
	Standby.
	Coming in with meat.
	No liner, Alex. Alex. Alex. Alex. Alex. Alex. Alex. Alex.
	The End
	My daughter, 24, inspired me and said, Dad, how can you advocate for These zero carbon value chains if you still eat meat.
	So I stopped eating meat.
	Now the math would say, well, you need to stop eating meat 11 years to compensate for a flight to Thailand.
	Yes, but if a billion people stop eating meat, I tell you it has a big impact.
	Yes, one of the speakers at Davos at the World Economic Forum saying, well, if we get a billion people to stop eating meat, then we'll save the environment.
	My question is, who's going to make, who's going to force a billion people to stop eating meat?
	That's the question.
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	We are back with our regular guest, Lord Conrad Black, the author of the book, Donald J. Trump, A Present Like No Other.
	Lord Black, you've probably heard this clip.
	I just want to share it to you.
	I'm newly back in the studio.
	I took a day off for filming something else.
	This is the vice president of the United States strangely rewriting the Declaration of Independence and leaving out the right to life.
	Cut to.
	A promise we made in the Declaration of Independence.
	Yeah.
	That we are each endowed with the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
	Now the strange thing, Lord Black, is she's actually reading off a teleprompter.
	Why would her script in the teleprompter delete the right to life from our founding document?
	Any surmise?
	I am afraid that trying to define what possesses the incumbent vice president to say some of the things she does is an area I don't feel qualified to get into.
	I absolutely don't understand it.
	I suppose you could credit her with wishing to stay in lockstep with the pro-abortionists, To judge from how she confuses South Korea with North Korea and just repeats these kind of prattled, moronic cliches at times,
	I'm not sure that wouldn't be crediting her I'm not sure that wouldn't be crediting her with too much guile and too much skill at dissembling.
	I suspect she's just not a great deal better at reading a teleprompter than the president whom she serves.
	Well, I think prattle is the perfect word.
	I call her the cackler, but prattle is superb.
	Let me broaden the aperture for a moment.
	Somebody who's moved in these rarified circles, like Davos and international business and politics, and who's written numerous works of presidential history,
	I find it hard to credit, to believe how, quote-unquote, the elite, we started by discussing John Kerry, how they have become not a little bit detached from the rest of the world and from the voters and the people who run the economy and who man the machines and run the businesses, but utterly, hermetically sealed away from.
	Is that an overstatement in terms of their lack of connection to the rest of us?
	I don't think it is, Seb.
	I think that's actually quite a fair formulation.
	And I think there are different reasons for it in different countries, and it's a problem to varying degrees in different countries.
	But in the case of the United States, it seems to me the takeaway on the last midterm elections, when a great many of us were expecting such an incompetent administration and such a poor level of leadership by the Democrats in Congress to be Severely punished at the polls by the voters.
	The Democrats managed to counter their poor performance by frightening people with this smear job that we're all familiar with, the whole world is familiar with, against Donald Trump.
	And even though Trump wasn't standing for election, he had endorsed a lot of the Republican candidates, and they managed to sell the idea that Yeah, a vote for the Republicans was a vote for chaos or a vote for, you know, bad things.
	And as I said, I think in the first session we had on this program right after the midterms, it really shook my confidence in the American voters that a significant number of them would actually buy into that nonsense.
	I mean, if I may just hark back to one thing you said, the man you quoted there about giving up eating meat.
	I'm not sure all your listeners would realize that the connection between eating meat and saving the environment is if you don't eat meat, there are fewer cows, and for fewer cows, there are less cow's flatulence.
	I won't be rude in that, but these people are actually telling us we have to radically alter our diets because the flatulence of cows is going to destroy the environment.
	Now this is insane!
	Monty Python couldn't think this up.
	No, it is truly.
	And the question, of course, that is not discussed is who will make a billion people not eat meat whilst these individuals are eating their foie gras and their Wagyu beef.
	So is there a point at which, I mean, you have chronicled the geopolitical environment for decades now.
	When did the quote-unquote elite get so detached?
	Is it a recent phenomenon, Conrad?
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think we were all pretty much pulling on the same war during the Cold War.
	And then, you know, I think it all reached a coruscation because it was not only the end of the Cold War, but it was such a benign, civilized calm in the Cold War.
	Not a shot was exchanged in anger between the West and the Soviet Union, and the Cold War just ended.
	And then we had a sort of splendid vacuum in the Clinton years, and then I think in this lack of an obvious purpose, a sort of greater cause, unfortunately our opponents in the left took hold of the environment and dressed up an anti-capitalist argument and a lot of humbug about
	Global warming, which isn't really... I mean, one and a half centigrade degrees in a hundred years?
	Are we really worried about that?
	And no, as you said, no evidence that it's all traceable to carbon use and no evidence, indeed, entire evidence that it is well within the normal And here we are trying to attack anyone who eats a hamburger because he's contributing to the end of the world.
	It's truly remarkable that they convinced the world CO2, the fuel for life, is actually a pollutant.
	He has coruscating brilliance at the tips of his fingers.
	He's Lord Conrad Black.
	Follow him at ConradMBlack.
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	My favourite phrases was coruscating brilliance.
	Yeah, well, I...
	I don't know.
	I mean, I hope I wasn't all just too fuzzy about the whole thing.
	I mean, frankly, words fail me at times.
	I just don't know how on earth we got into this.
	But I'd love to map it.
	I'd love if somebody did, you know, a kind of anthropological analysis because you may have had issues with the elite but you know 20 years ago or 30 years ago they they weren't actually utterly you know disconnected they had some umbilical cord to the rest of humanity and now they have none and and they were and you know the you know when the business leaders when i was young
	The business leaders were people like Alfred P. Sloan, or people like that.
	They were pillars of America.
	They believed in America, they believed in democracy, they believed in capitalism, and they couldn't be intimidated.
	I remember when some heckler came To the annual meeting of Remington Rand.
	And the chairman at the time was General Douglas MacArthur.
	Wow.
	And he said to this guy, sit down, sir.
	You are disturbing this meeting and irritating its chairman.
	And he did.
	Wow.
	You couldn't do that now.
	That must have been quite a sight.
	On the other hand, I take a guy like Jamie Dimon.
	He's a trendy, he's faddish.
	And he's now taking his distance from the left.
	He's saying we're going to stick with the oil business.
	Yes.
	And so I think that's a bellwether.
	I mean, he's... I didn't... I was not impressed with his extreme intimacy, politically speaking, with Obama.
	But I think at least he's shown that as a smart banker, he hasn't taken leave of the census.
	He's starting to, you know, twist the...
	And he's prepared to buck the trend.
	I mean, I played his clip last week twice, where he said, which I'm no expert, but it's my contention, that he actually said Bitcoin is a swindle, it's a scam.
	And, you know, talk about topics that are trendy, for him to buck the trend on Bitcoin, that takes a bit of gumption.
	Yeah, mind you, I think Bankman Freed makes it a little easier, but I've always said, I wasn't as emphatic as Jamie Dimon, but I've always said that it's very vulnerable.
	It's basically the honor system.
	If the guy doesn't deliver at the other end, you're out.
	And eventually, if they really make traction, the central banks and treasuries and treasury ministers and secretaries and chancellors, whatever they position in different countries, they'll all get together and say, we can't have this.
	We will control the money supply, not Sam Bankman Freed and people like that.
	Right.
	No, it's incredibly fragile.
	And if you don't like fiat currency, well, this is fiat currency on steroids.
	This is just a – I mean, you're right.
	This is – you know, I don't want to use an overused phrase, but this is Ponzi country here.
	There's nothing behind it.
	Bingo.
	I mean, at least the full faith and credit of the United States or the Netherlands or Poland or something stands for something, but what the hell is behind this?
	Nothing.
	If you want to chat, give me a call for about Substack on Friday if you're free.
	Yeah, yeah, okay, good, thanks.
	Thanks, Conrad.
	Bye-bye.
	Yep.
	No.
	No. No.
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	between the radical left and your cheeseburgers.
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	Let's just play that clip again from Kamala, in case you didn't believe it.
	Reading from a teleprompter from the Declaration of Independence, leaving out a very important phrase.
	Cut to.
	A promise we made in the Declaration of Independence.
	That we are each endowed with the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
	Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
	What's missing?
	I think there's something missing there.
	Oh yeah.
	The right for life.
	Now why should she leave that out?
	Well, where was she speaking?
	Let me give you the details.
	She was speaking in Tallahassee, Florida.
	What was the occasion?
	She was speaking on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of Roe v. Wade.
	Hmm.
	Oh.
	Oh, right to life.
	Sorry.
	Oh, we can't have a right to life.
	Okay, because we want to kill you in the womb if you're just inconvenient and we forgot to use, you know, a contraceptive device.
	Just internalize that for a second.
	A politician, and not just any politician, the person who is one heartbeat away from the presidency, from the chief executive, Change is the wording of our founding document, the one that created our Republic.
	To remove the right to life.
	Remove the right to life.
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	Very, very patiently.
	Sean, thank you for waiting.
	Always a pleasure to be with you, Doctor.
	Thanks, buddy.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	I just wanted to say, you know, what's happening with the Democrats and Joe Biden's administration reminds me of that scene, Gene Hackman in Mississippi Burning, where he says, looks like the rattlesnakes are committing suicide.
	That is a great movie.
	We actually used to use that in our irregular warfare training.
	Yeah.
	So you think that there's going to be an internal war on the left?
	I think, you know, it's like they made their table and their table has become a snare, as it says in the Bible, you know?
	So he's bearing the fruit of what he planted.
	So, I wanted to particularly point out that loan that Mr. Solomon was talking about.
	Oh, the multi-million dollar, non-repayable loan to Hunter.
	Yes.
	So, is that a bona fide loan under the Internal Revenue Code?
	No!
	Because it's supposed to have default provisions, it's supposed to have interest.
	Under the code, then it's gross income.
	So did he report it on the tax return?
	You know, the second... You have a great mind, Sean.
	The second John mentioned that, I thought, huh, I really want to know if that income was declared to the IRS.
	Why?
	Because a non-repayable loan, that's not a loan, that's a gift, Sean, right?
	That is a gift of money.
	And if it's a gift, then did they report a gift tax return?
	Because, you know, there's supposed to be a gift tax.
	It's in excess of what the gift tax exclusion is.
	Yeah, I think it's $14,000, right?
	You can give $14,000 to a relative, right?
	But I think millions of dollars is more than $14,000.
	Relative, right?
	But I think millions of dollars is more than $14,000.
	How good?
	Can you do Biden math?
	Well, come on, man.
	Come on, man!
	Are you joking?
	All right, buddy.
	Stay on the line.
	He deserves.
	Let's get Sean one of our challenge coins for waiting so very, very patiently.
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	Title for Black.
	The truth about Davos and the WA.
	- AWS, yes. - Mm-hmm. - Yep.
	Yeah, people in chat are pointing out Kamala also in that same clip.
	Yes.
	She omitted the creator part.
	We are endowed.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Complete butchering of the whole thing from start to finish.
	finish.
	Two and a half.
	We recorded that.
	We need to do Disney here.
	Waltz Disenchanted.
	Still got quite a few cuts left over if you want to come in with something.
	Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
	Some of them are quite long.
	Well, the Gavin cut's pretty short.
	Gavin Newsom, 16 seconds.
	Have you played Graham on the show yet?
	Lindsey Graham?
	No.
	I don't think so.
	Come in with that.
	Lindsey Graham, alright.
	No liner, Alex. - Can you send me the live link?
	Yes, doing that right now.
	. All right.
	Sent.
	77.
	70 seconds.
	Coming in with Lindsey Graham.
	DC42 in the chat says, unalienable.
	Does that mean that extraterrestrial carry is excluded?
	What was the latest movie we did?
	Uh, Lethal Weapon.
	So good.
	30 seconds. 30 seconds.
	30 seconds.
	What are your national security questions?
	Same thing for Trump.
	I mean, why did you do it?
	What were in the documents?
	How were they held?
	Who had access to them?
	Let me just say this.
	I've known President Biden for a long time.
	I don't think there's... I'd be shocked if there's anything sinister here.
	Why, Lindsey Graham?
	Why would you be shocked?
	Because, oh, Biden's not corrupt.
	His son isn't a junkie who whores with Russian prostitutes.
	And they didn't get any money from China.
	There's no 10% for the big guy.
	Right, Lindsey?
	Oh, by the way, Where are those subpoenas?
	You remember the ones you promised us?
	Oh, you're right.
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	Waiting very patiently in Florida.
	Jodi, line one.
	Welcome, Jodi.
	Hi, how are you?
	Good.
	Um, yeah, I was the person who wanted to bring up that Kamala Harris also didn't say endowed by our creator.
	And I think this is all by design, the whole thing with life as well.
	This is not a mistake by her.
	This is how they feel.
	No, of course it's not a mistake.
	I mean, remember, you know, as I said earlier, if you, I mean, you're listening, but if you watch the video of her giving that speech, she was reading a teleprompter, Jodie.
	Somebody wrote that script and put it in the prompter.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they, it's too much.
	It's just too much.
	But, um, I don't know what this country is going to do.
	Now, just as a side thing, which I didn't mention when I called in, was that I'm a medical auditor.
	I was a director, but currently I'm auditing.
	They put in to track our COVID vaccines, right?
	So we're not getting passports necessarily.
	They put in a new code to track vaccine status, unvaxxed.
	in October 1st of 2022. - Sorry, who's they and how are they doing it? - The World Health Organization, the codes that doctors submit to insurance companies and to Medicare, their ICD-10 codes.
	And they put a code in for specifically unvaxxed COVID.
	Now they can have, there's other general unspecified, not vaccinated, but the only one specified is COVID, not vaccinated.
	Yeah.
	Well, we played the clip last week of Tony Blair, former prime minister of the UK, saying we need a global database.
	And he was talking, of course, at the WEF.
	Thank you, Jody.
	Let's go to Sam in Orlando, line four.
	Thank you, Sebastian, for taking that call.
	Sure.
	Something's bothering me, but I like the call you just had.
	Now, I've sat there and put it on Facebook myself.
	Trump said he's cleaned out the swamp.
	That was his promise.
	He did that in the four years he was there, and he's still doing it today.
	He's keeping his promise.
	Now, when Biden got busted, now we got Pence.
	What I just quoted through Facebook a few weeks back was, I know Kamala's dirt, we gotta find dirt.
	Well, did she not just do that?
	Did she just not herself commit a form of treason herself by not including the missing elements?
	No, that's not the definition of treason.
	I can say with the right to bananas, okay?
	That's not treason, Sam.
	It was our Bill of Rights, right?
	Yeah, so that's not the definition of treason.
	Misquoting or editing founding documents is not treason.
	You do know that, right, Sam?
	That's all she did.
	She's innocent from just that.
	She misquoted.
	No, no.
	I'm telling you.
	I'm telling you.
	Misquoting a founding document is not the definition of treason.
	You don't think she knows it by heart?
	She didn't read that up.
	You're not listening to me, Sam.
	Listen to me.
	Listen to me.
	It's irrespective whether she knows it or not.
	If I say right now the Declaration of Independence says I am allowed to be an alien from the planet Venus, I haven't committed treason.
	Okay, treason is when you are actually taking action to undermine the Constitution or when you are working with the enemy.
	Misquoting it.
	I mean, if it was misquoting it, you know, our prisons would be full of Democrats.
	You know that, Sam, right?
	By example, they're all going to jail, Sebastian.
	They're all going.
	Trump is still cleaning out the swamp.
	I'll call it a 200-year administration.
	He calls it the swamp.
	He is doing his promise.
	I'm not sure.
	Can you tell me how is President Trump draining the swamp from Mar-a-Lago as his house is being raided by the FBI?
	Let's just talk brass tacks.
	Because he was right, his four years he was in office while fighting them and doing all the great things he did while holding the position of the highest position of our courts, of our land.
	Again, stop, stop.
	You're in class now, okay, and the teacher's asking a question.
	Don't answer another question.
	Answer the question set, okay?
	Right now.
	I'm curious, because I'm really curious.
	How is President Trump From Mar-a-Lago, as his home is being raided by armed FBI agents, you're saying he's still draining the swamp.
	Can you tell me how he's doing that?
	Just stick to that question, because I really want to know.
	How is he doing that from Mar-a-Lago?
	He's doing it by volunteering himself to all that he's... And we're losing you.
	Say that again.
	He's doing it by how, Sam?
	He's doing it by volunteering his whole life, his whole being of life, right still today.
	He has taken on all the things that now are coming out about the other side.
	He has never had a dent.
	No, I agree that he's volunteering and he's announced, but you've got to be precise with language.
	At least our side, Sam, has to be precise with language.
	You're not draining the swamp if you're not in the Oval Office, getting rid of the swamp creatures, moving the departments to Nebraska, to South Dakota.
	So I love the faith you have in the man, but we need him back in the White House.
	More here on America First.
	Can you play Tucker again?
	- Block.
	- Block, yep.
	Mic's on, two and a half minutes.
	- Can you play Tucker again? - Tucker.
	Yep. - Is anyone gonna ask what Antifa is?
	Who leads this group?
	How many more riots do they have to lead before the New York Times gets interested and does a five-part series on what is this?
	Who are these people?
	Who pays for this?
	Where do they stay at night?
	What's their background?
	Give us some news on Antifa!
	They're the biggest armed militia in the United States, and we know nothing about them.
	Why?
	Because they're aligned with the Democratic Party.
	But they're telling you the real threat is rural voters with AR-15s, assault weapons!
	You must disarm Republican voters!
	No thanks!
	Disarm?
	Why don't you go ahead and disband Antifa.
	Go full Rico on them.
	Let's find out who their leaders are.
	Let's see them in jail.
	Then maybe you can tackle street crime, and then pay a little bit of attention to the drug cartels that control the southwestern United States.
	And then maybe at that point, you'll convince some people to register their AR-15s.
	But until you do that, up yours.
	I thought up yours was a British phrase.
	Do Americans use that?
	We do use it.
	I mean, it probably did originate with the British, but yeah, no, we use it.
	I mean, we generally would say the more uncensored version, I think, rather than just up yours, but, you know.
	What was our issue with Ryan Saavedra, Jeff?
	Did he go NT?
	Yeah.
	He might as well be Ron DeSantis' press secretary.
	All he does is write any type of positive news he can about DeSantis.
	Did he do that?
	Did he go N.T.
	after January 6th?
	I think it was after.
	I remember on January 6th he tweeted, because I remember they came back after they cleared the protesters out, and Mitch McConnell gave a speech.
	Savedra tweeted that McConnell's post-J6 speech will go down as one of the greatest speeches in American history.
	He's always been N.T.
	I don't think it was just J6.
	He's always been that way.
	Who have we got for Manhood Hour?
	Trying to get Mark Robinson.
	Oh, great.
	Can you get one-on-one for an hour?
	Can you get, um... ...Army Horwitz?
	Nice.
	It's been a while.
	Yes.
	Uh, wanna come in with anything here?
	Um... You mean a regular one, right?
	Not a regular one.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a regular one.
	Or you wanna tee up Tucker?
	Uh, no, Tucker's too long.
	Yeah.
	Um... ...'cause we gotta get to Linda.
	Sure.
	Sure.
	And then...
	As we're now seeing in...
	Joe and Mika's home state of Florida, was it their idea that books would be banned and taken out of classrooms?
	And you'd have lists saying, these books are okay, these books are not.
	But that's a policy that has to be debated.
	You know, anyone who, as we've seen in the last few years, has the idea that this should be an authoritarian society with just one set of ideas and, you know, one religion is wrong and another race is wrong and certain genders, you know, a gender is wrong.
	I mean, these are things that most Americans could never have thought of during the last two centuries.
	Hey, can you help me out, Eric?
	I know I only speak the Queen's English, real English, but when you say the word ban, when you ban something, I thought it means it's not available anywhere.
	Am I wrong?
	That's generally the idea behind what ban means.
	Yeah, it's gone.
	It's forgotten.
	It's inaccessible.
	So when you say you can have a book, but if it's pornographic, it can't be in a children's classroom, that's not banning, right?
	No, that's just common sense.
	At that point.
	I thought Michael Beschloss was a presidential historian.
	He sounds like a cretin to me.
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	Linda, Florida, Line 5.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	How are you?
	Good, good.
	Thanks for waiting.
	What's your comment?
	What's your question?
	Oh, no.
	I was reading about Kamala Harris's big visit to Tallahassee.
	I wouldn't have driven to the corner to see her.
	She did not get the reception that she anticipated.
	What happened?
	Tell me what happened.
	She got booed.
	It was in Breitbart News reported on it.
	Good.
	Well, I've been out of the studio for a day, so I'm glad to catch up and appreciate it.
	So the audience in Tallahassee actually booed the cackler?
	Booed Kamala Harris.
	All right, we'll have to look into that.
	On stage, and Breitbart has a picture of her, and she's standing there, and she looks almost confused.
	Well, it's not hard to confuse, dear Cackler.
	We'll find that.
	We might have to use it on the show.
	I think I might have to use it on my Newsmax show.
	Thank you, Linda, and thank you for waiting.
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	Next up, it's Chris Coles.
	We're gonna have some fun making movies great again.
	One of the classics from my childhood.
	Stay on the line.
	Impressive.
	Most impressive.
	See the group people wouldn't believe.
	We want to talk to God.
	Let's go see him together.
	Let's go.
	Take my gun.
	Don't nibble on the barrel.
	Pull the trigger.
	Go ahead, pal.
	Be my guest.
	Go ahead if you're serious.
	You shouldn't tempt me, man.
	Put it in your mouth.
	Bullet might go through your ears, not kill you.
	Yeah, under the chin.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just kidding.
	Ow! - Oh!
	You're not trying to draw a psycho pigeon.
	You really are crazy.
	Just those little nostril flares.
	That is definitely method acting at work.
	That's Stanislavski.
	A crucial moment from the movie Lethal Weapon where Sergeant Murtaugh realizes That new partner, he's crazy.
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	Chris, welcome.
	Did you have fun watching this movie?
	How could I not?
	I mean, this is really one of my favorite movies of all time.
	I love the interplay between these two actors.
	And you know what?
	They had something in this film that we don't see enough of today in movies and TV shows.
	It's given each other crap.
	You know?
	Which is what guys do!
	If guys like each other, we give each other crap!
	Exactly!
	And also, in his own family, his daughter's walking up the stairs, he grabs the bacon out of her hand, she's like, dad, that's mine!
	He's like, my bacon now!
	And like, that's what families do, you know?
	They spent so much time with this film trying to make every character organic and natural.
	And a lot of this movie is pretty typical 80s stuff that you would see in other 80s movies of the type, you know, action-y type movies.
	They just did everything so well.
	The attention to detail and the care that they put into this and the charm and the charisma of the actors.
	Mel Gibson Honestly, like re-watching this, one of the most naturally charismatic actors probably of all time.
	And just the chemistry.
	The chemistry that they have.
	I mean, there are older buddy cop movies, I think in the modern Genre, I think, what is it, 1974's Freebie and the Bean is kind of where they say this is the first modern buddy cop movie.
	But this is where it really gets cemented as a thing in American pop culture.
	Don't you think this is it, Lethal Weapon, Chris?
	There are so many things in this movie while I was watching it going, oh, I think that's where this started.
	You know, like, these cliches, these movie cliches.
	At the very end of the film, spoiler alert if you haven't seen Lethal Weapon.
	Yes, guys, in this show, okay, there are no things we will save you from.
	Every movie you watch us review, you better have seen it.
	Sorry, Chris.
	There's this great fight scene at the very end, you know, he's fighting Gary Busey.
	He defeats Gary Busey in this fight.
	Gary Busey at the very last moment pulls a gun and the two guys, the two cops, the two buddies who are now fast friends, both at the same time pull their guns, boom boom, both take him out.
	And it's that weird What I would consider a cheap trick at the end, a lame twist, where it's like, oh, the bad guy's down, the bad guy's arrested, the bad guy's gone.
	No, he's still alive!
	You know, they kind of reuse that in Die Hard.
	But the thing is, the way they did it in this, the way they did it in Die Hard, it actually works pretty well.
	And I don't know that maybe this may be the first iteration of that.
	So you got to hand it to them.
	It's not really a cheap trick if you're the first one to use it, you know?
	It's kind of a brilliant thing to have done.
	And the fact that they both shoot at the same time gives them this like... closing moment of...
	Violent friendship, which you just have to love it.
	Now, as I was walking through the production offices, you were chatting with my associate producer, Eric, and you said something that surprised me, because we have already reviewed here on Making Movies Great Again, Die Hard, which also iconic, iconic 80s movie.
	If you haven't seen it, go to Rumble, watch our discussion on Die Hard.
	And you said something to Eric that this movie for you Well, this movie, I think, came out the year before Die Hard did.
	But it shouldn't make it, you know, that much more 80s, right?
	But I felt just like watching Die Hard, I felt like everything was timeless.
	You know, he's wearing a sleeveless tee, you know, like what you would call a wife beater.
	I know that would trigger some people, but he's wearing the wife beater.
	He's wearing like a lot of the clothes and stuff are just kind of like timeless, like suits and ties and stuff like that.
	Corporate looking.
	Yeah, there's a little bit of 80s-ness into it, but in this film, there's a lot of car scenes, there's a lot of street scenes, there's a lot of stuff where you see people from the 80s going around doing their 80s thing.
	The music has that kind of jazzy vibe, that jazzy guitar vibe.
	And also the saxophone and the Eric Clapton guitar, that is, you know, but Die Hard has that limo that is so 80s, that limo that picks him up.
	I mean, that's like, yeah, sorry, this movie was made in the 80s, right?
	There are some like, yeah, very, very 80s moments that'll take you a little bit and go, oh yeah, I forgot this is a movie from the 80s, you know?
	But I think, yeah, more Lethal Weapon from A to Z.
	is an 80s film, maybe because of the mullet, you know, like your producer was saying.
	And doesn't he look so young?
	Mel looks so flipping young in this film.
	Well, that's only because you're used to seeing him now.
	I actually had the opposite reaction.
	What?
	Because I was thinking about how young he actually is in this film.
	I think he's 30.
	Yeah.
	And, and yet he looks like he's 40.
	But like a very handsome 40, but a very handsome 40.
	And he's actually playing at least six years older than he actually is because he says that he was – He's a Vietnam vet.
	And he actually talks about in 69 he ran into some guys and I calculated that and I was like, he was 12 in 69.
	So he would have had to be at least six years older than he actually was in real life to play that prominent.
	But he does have a face of a guy who just like perpetually looks 40.
	I think he turned 18, looked 40, like a very handsome 40.
	And they just stayed that until he was like 70.
	Now, you've said previously that one of the things about the movies we review and the movies that we really love is they create a world that we want to be in.
	Do we want to be in this world?
	Is Lethal Weapon a world you want to be in?
	I do.
	I actually do want to be in this world, and I'll tell you why.
	It's rare, I think, You know, I've doctored a movie poster of Lethal Weapon 3 with you and me in it.
	Yeah, we use it to promo the show on Twitter, and it's really good.
	On Twitter, yeah.
	It's pretty funny.
	And then we got Trump in the background instead of Joe Pesci.
	But like, you and I clicked.
	Like, the first time I talked to you, we clicked.
	Yes.
	And there's people like that in your life that you meet, that you go, okay, I get along with this guy.
	And we're of slightly different ages, slightly different generations, and yet we grew up with similar values, similar kind of life experiences.
	You obviously much more intense and interesting than mine, but nevertheless.
	You have a ways to go.
	If you're as old as me, you'll be as intense as I am.
	Hopefully, yeah.
	But like, these two guys, you know, they're giving each other crap at the beginning.
	They don't like each other.
	And actually, when I was a boy, one of my best friends, I didn't like him when I met him.
	And then we became best friends.
	And that's kind of like real life.
	That happens.
	My son's closest buddy in life They hated each other in school.
	I mean, utterly.
	This other guy bullied my son.
	And when my son said, I'm leaving this school because I want to go rowing and there's no crew team, he just, he said, what do you mean you're leaving?
	And they became the best buddies.
	And like, you know, they are as thick as thieves now.
	Isn't that weird?
	But see, that happens.
	That's actually not as uncommon as you might expect.
	It's sort of counterintuitive, but that sort of thing does happen.
	And so this movie really rings true on that level and so many other levels.
	I mean, there are so many great things about this film that make it not just watchable, but kind of naturalistic.
	More naturalistic than you would expect for, like, Uh, you know, an action movie with all these explosions and ridiculous things happening.
	It seems real despite the, you know, heightened reality.
	It seems real.
	It does.
	And a lot of it has to do with the camaraderie between these two men.
	And that's just such a beautiful thing.
	It's something that you want.
	You want friends like that.
	You do.
	You want buddies that you can rely upon and they're gonna eat your wife's bad, bad Christmas dinner.
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	You ever met anybody you didn't kill?
	Well, I haven't killed you yet.
	Well, don't do me no favors.
	Well, I haven't killed you yet.
	That's what it's about.
	That's the buddy-buddy cop, the giving each other crap.
	And that's why we love this movie.
	We're making movies great again.
	And Chris, what is the tone of this movie?
	Because it's interesting.
	Just like the last movie we reviewed, this is a buddy-buddy movie.
	It's a cop movie.
	It's funny.
	It's cool, the Eric Clapton music, and you know.
	But it's dark as well, right?
	I mean, just the suicide scene at the beginning when he's chewing on his gun, looking at his dead wife's photograph.
	Then, I mean, for the 80s, the torture scene?
	Wow.
	With the, you know, electrodes and the water.
	This is not a light film, is it?
	Well, I'll tell you what.
	I keep talking about how naturalistic it is to give each other crap and the camaraderie between the two men.
	Another thing that Richard Donner did that I think was really brilliant is he allowed the scenes to breathe.
	He took his time with these moments.
	This scene with him, this is a very touching scene and it's a very hard scene to watch.
	Yeah.
	Because this feels real.
	You believe that this guy wants to kill himself because he misses his wife.
	His eyes.
	This guy is about to kill himself.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And he does it so beautifully and so well.
	I mean, as an actor, it's not beautiful to watch somebody want to kill themselves.
	You know, that's kind of horrific.
	But the sheer talent and the ability he has to portray this scene effectively.
	Uh, you know, you, you like this guy.
	You hope that he's going to win.
	You hope that he's going to overcome this issue.
	And then he does later in the movie.
	Uh, and so it's, it's really a scene of redemption.
	The whole movie is about this man's redemption.
	And, and it's through this partner that he has that he doesn't like at first, they don't like each other.
	Then there's a moment where they go to his house for dinner.
	He eats his wife's cooking.
	The family's joking around in the ways that you do.
	The daughter has a crush on him, which is hilarious.
	And you know, that kind of stuff does happen.
	And it's just the fact that he just lets this scene go in the sort of the natural time that it would take for him to do that.
	Wow.
	I mean, you just wouldn't see that today.
	And yet this.
	This is just handled so delicately, so beautifully.
	Really, really great filmmaking.
	Really great filmmaking.
	I hadn't even thought of the aspect of timing, but there's a moment here that, and you know, you're the actor, I'm just the consumer of this stuff, but there's this, when this scene ends, it's just masterful.
	There's this extra beat where he says, right, he says, I'll see you later, Vicky Lynn.
	Much, much later, right?
	He's come over the cliff.
	He said, OK, I'm not going to kill myself.
	And damn it, you know, I'm not ready to go yet.
	And it's that extra beat that just makes it, for me.
	Yeah, and he's tortured by this, knowing that it will be much, much later.
	Yeah.
	But, you know, we find out in the next scene, or a couple scenes later, that the reason he does it is because he has a sense of duty to his fellow man.
	He feels like he has a purpose in this life.
	The job!
	He can't go yet.
	It's the job, right?
	It's the job.
	The job.
	Alright, let's talk about the actors, let's talk about the cast, let's talk about the bad guys, the good guys.
	Busey, oh my gosh!
	Let's talk about the general, let's talk about this guy that's been in every horror movie made by... I'm pretty sure everybody in this film is a Trump supporter.
	I would probably guess that everybody in this movie, maybe not the lady of negotiable affection, maybe not Trixie, but Tom Atkins, for example.
	I mean, just a man in every, you know, carpenter movie of the 1980s.
	Talk to us a little bit about Mr. Joshua.
	Talk to us about Gibson and his partner, Sergeant Murtaugh.
	What a great cast.
	Oh, I don't know what they were doing to get this cast together, but it was, whatever they did, it was right.
	I mean, Danny Glover alone is just such a charming guy.
	It's just such a presence on screen.
	And then Mel Gibson, they were like, okay, let's not just cast somebody who can act crazy.
	Let's get somebody who is a little crazy.
	And so they got Mel Gibson, right?
	Which we didn't know back then.
	We know now he's a little bit crazy, but man, he can play it, right?
	Well, he's got, he's kind of like me.
	He's got intensity, like, that comes out of his core.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm like, I can relate to this, right?
	I can relate to this.
	And you can channel that as an actor, and you can have that intensity, like, a little bit over the top, and it makes you a little bit crazy, you know what I mean?
	So, I don't even think he has to really act.
	He's just like, OK, just ramp up the intensity slightly.
	And then Gary Busey, I know he had a car accident.
	I know he had a little bit of brain damage.
	I know he had a problem later in his life, which is a little bit tragic.
	And he was on Trump's television show, and he became kind of a meme for a little while.
	But I mean, when you go back to this film and you see what he was able to do when he was younger as an actor.
	I mean, it is such a solid performance.
	It's so intimidating.
	It's, you believe that this guy is as tough and as terrifying as he's portraying himself to be in the film.
	Which is interesting because he's not of the, you know, Schwarzenegger, Stallone kind of, you know, he's not this beefcake guy, but dude, you believe that he's deadly and dangerous.
	He's got a weird looking face though.
	Yeah.
	No, no, the face is weird, but he's not, he's not, he's not, you know, this buff superhero type that is physically intimidating, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And, but he pulls it off.
	It's, it's, it's his presence.
	It's the way he speaks.
	It's the, it's the way he just looks at you.
	You think, okay, this guy's serious.
	Like this is a dangerous guy.
	It's a great script.
	I would actually argue that it's not as tight as Die Hard.
	I think Die Hard is a better script in terms of like you can follow what's going on very easily in Die Hard.
	You know exactly what's happening throughout the entire film.
	When I was younger, I didn't really understand the plot of this film.
	And I would say that until watching it this time around, there were things I missed.
	Well, this is the scene where the plot is being explained, right?
	By Sgt.
	Myrtle's buddy, whose daughter has been killed.
	And if you're not paying attention, you don't really get it.
	What connections in the Golden Triangle, drugs in Thailand, Vietnam War... It's a little easier to cop now, you know, when you're a little bit older and you've been educated on some of these things.
	They even had a movie called Air America with Tom Cruise.
	Which they're referencing that actual event in this film.
	So obviously whoever, either Shane Black or whoever doctored the script to get that in, had done their research and they knew that this is before the internet, guys.
	I mean, these guys knew their stuff.
	They knew what had happened there.
	So they were integrating real life stuff into the script, which was really fascinating.
	But there is a red herring early on.
	Where, you know, they go to this guy's mansion thinking that he's the one who... Yeah, just some kind of low-level drug dealer.
	But yeah, whether it's the Phoenix program, the assassination of VC officers, whether it's Air America, the CIA's quote-unquote civilian airline, or all of this stuff is integrated from real life.
	And this scene when the chopper comes up, wow, and nails this individual through the window.
	That is some Serious movie making there.
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	We found it on eBay, the original poster for a lethal weapon.
	Much better than the one they actually used.
	Although in real life, I'm not sure.
	President Trump is a little taller than that, but it looks good.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	I'm the old guy with the six shooter, with the revolver, but that's fine.
	It's a .357.
	It's a serious gun.
	And of course, the crazy guy is Chris.
	He's got the M9.
	I'm going to just geek out here.
	Chris made this poster.
	It's superb.
	That is our Making Movies Great Again poster.
	I'm going to geek out because I'm a gun guy.
	If it's a movie with guns, we're going to talk guns.
	Let's put the first gun up.
	This is the first gun that stars in the movie.
	This is in the Christmas tree scene at the beginning.
	This is what the bad guy holds to Mel Gibson's head as he says, shoot the guy!
	Shoot the guy!
	Iconic.
	I have three of them.
	It is the Astra Terminator.
	A semi-custom gun from the 80s.
	Chopped down from a six inch.
	It is a 44 magnum snubby revolver and it is delightful.
	A bit heavy but it is an iconic weapon from the 80s.
	Always dreamt of having one after I saw a lethal weapon.
	Now I can actually afford to buy guns like this.
	The next one.
	This is the one that really really... Let's show Mel.
	This is the gun that he just made famous.
	It's the M9.
	It is the service weapon of the United States military until recently.
	This movie made it very, very famous from Beretta, from Italy.
	And then, oh my gosh, maybe my favorite scene in the movie, when he's in the desert waiting for the general to save the girl, Mel is lying there in the sand with perhaps the best sniper rifle ever made, the H&K PSG-1.
	Did you like that scene?
	What's your favorite scene, Chris?
	I love the desert scene.
	What about you?
	The desert scene.
	That's an interesting point.
	You know what?
	I don't know if there's a favorite scene that I have, but did that Beretta end up becoming sort of like standard issue for police throughout the country?
	Do you think that that was done because of this film?
	I think this film did more than anything else.
	It's like Top Gun for the U.S.
	Navy, right?
	After Top Gun had a 900% increase in applications to the U.S.
	Navy and even the Air Force.
	But yes, this was already by 84 or 85, it had become the U.S.
	military sidearm.
	But after this movie, you know, the LAPD and on down started to buy this for their police officers.
	So absolutely.
	I hadn't made that connection until you that you pointed that out.
	Now, you were you were a little bit, you know, you were of age when this film came out.
	I was quite a young lad.
	I would have been seven years old.
	So you must remember what it was like when this was in theaters and when this was a big deal and the culture was... Oh yeah.
	What was that like?
	What was that like in 87 when this movie came out?
	Everybody wanted to be Mel Gibson.
	You know, I wanted that red shirt and I would wear that red shirt unbuttoned over my blue jeans.
	I couldn't get decent cowboy boots because I lived in England where there's no bloody decent cowboy boots.
	You know, I'd have army boots, the jeans, I'd have the red shirt open over my t-shirt.
	It's like when Miami Vice came out, I'm sorry, I'm in England with the crappy weather and I'm wearing canvas espadrilles and a white canvas jacket in England because I'm 16 and I want to be, you know, Sonny Crockett.
	That's awesome, man.
	I didn't, you know, it's funny because like when I was a kid, I didn't, I wasn't always aware of what was influencing the culture.
	You just knew what was cool and what wasn't by what other kids were doing.
	You didn't necessarily realize that it would come from like, say, Lethal Weapon or Die Hard or whatever it was.
	But you have that memory of that clear memory, which I think is very cool.
	This is another version of what Andrew Breitbart taught us, is it not, right?
	That politics is downstream from culture.
	Culture drives everything else, including politics.
	Now, you may not know what the source of that cultural influx is, whether it's movies or whether it's today, that TikTok post or whatever it is, but Culture is the dominant influence on human society.
	And then it gets translated into other things, into science, into politics, into what have you.
	But my gosh, Andrew Breitbart taught us so very, very long ago.
	But yeah, I was a pop culture kid.
	I may have been growing up in England, but I loved everything that was American pop culture.
	So whether it was looking like Sonny Crockett or looking like You know, Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon.
	We lived American culture back then.
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	No!
	The freeway!
	He's going for the freeway!
	You okay?
	Yeah!
	Come over the third speed bridge!
	You'll be able to get ahead of him!
	General McAllister, time for you to die.
	General McAllister, time for you to die.
	Wow.
	What a great line.
	This film, along with Die Hard Chris, this is where we see, oh, by the way, thank you for your kind comments on the Relief Factor read I just did.
	Malodorous Swamp.
	Malodorous actually came from a caller, so I give full credit, because we have the best listeners and callers on the planet, and I incorporated it into my little read there, but you're a very kind man.
	These are the heroes.
	I mean, before this, from, you know, Bogie on down, We didn't have barefoot heroes in Wifebeaters running around bleeding, right?
	So whether it's Bruce Willis, whether it's Murtagh, you know, bleeding out of his shoulder, whether it's Gibson running down the highway barefoot, this is a different kind of hero, isn't it?
	Yeah, I mean, back in the day, you would have some, like, John Wayne or Clint Eastwood, a little bit beat up.
	You'd see, like, the blood coming down, but it was always a little fakey.
	It was always a little cheesy.
	Well, and they looked invulnerable, right?
	It's like they were bleeding, but they were invulnerable.
	These guys, when he's sitting there, you can feel it, right?
	There was like a level of realism and I think that young people today will watch this and think that it looks a little bit cheesy and it looks a little bit fake because there are certain things that they couldn't really do that they can do now with computers and stuff like that to make everything look seamless and perfect.
	You gotta understand, like, they were just using practical effects.
	And I would say that there's very few things in this film that seem completely wrong from real life.
	I would say that, like, maybe say, like, the house exploding or something like that.
	You know, the explosions of the 80s were, you know, I think they would use gas canisters and they, you know, it was like gasoline explosions.
	Everything was humongous explosions.
	But beyond the explosions, I mean, it felt pretty dang legit.
	I mean, the grittiness, the realism.
	This way he's loping around, dragging his ass.
	I mean, you know, Sergeant Murtaugh looks like he's really, you know, on the edge of just collapsing.
	The moment that they catch him.
	When they're shooting at him and they're shooting at him and they're shooting at him.
	Yes.
	And they're intentionally missing, but they're letting him know we can hit you at any moment.
	They're on the desert and he does this thing where he kind of raises his hands up and he holds his gun kind of like this.
	And I just thought, man, that looks so just sad and pathetic and like – but you know he's like – he's beaten right now.
	You know, he's defeated.
	The physicality, that almost Christ-like moment.
	He looks like, this is surrender.
	This is what a man surrendering everything looks like.
	But he felt that he did what he needed to do, which is to get his daughter away from them.
	They did catch her again and brought her back, but that was his goal and that's what he accomplished.
	And then they eventually, of course, win the day.
	But man, what a way to present yourself in that moment, so vulnerable.
	And then that obviously sets up for their victory.
	When you have a hero that seems invulnerable, like you say, when they defeat the bad guys, it doesn't feel like a victory.
	It seems like a natural course of events.
	They do this with a lot of women in film today, where the woman just doesn't have any vulnerabilities.
	And then it's like, you've set up what?
	The natural course of events that's just kind of boring to watch.
	Right.
	With this, it does feel like they're at it, you know, they're stuck, you know, they're tied up, they're being tortured, they're done, you know, there's no way they can get out of this and then they manage to and you're like cheering for them, you know, and you're on their side and they knew how to write a film back then, man.
	They did.
	My gosh, this is what we need to return to more than ever.
	It, you know, these are the This is the reason why we do this show, to show the way, not just for conservatives, but for anybody who understands the importance of a good story.
	Humans run on good stories.
	It's why every child wants a bedtime story.
	It's why, you know, Homer, the Iliad, these things have been around for 3,000 years.
	There's a good reason.
	The story is also helped immensely by the music.
	How did you like this, you know, the Eric Clapton music, the music by Michael Kamen?
	It does really add to the film.
	What's really strange about this is, like I said, this is part of what dates this movie a little bit, but I would say that for other 80s films that had this style of music, it does seem a little cheesy, it does seem a little 80s, it does seem a little dated.
	For some reason, and I can't quite put my finger on it, maybe you can figure this out, It really works in this movie.
	I mean, it just gives this sort of, it just gives this feeling of this is this style of film.
	And this is, I mean, I don't know, maybe it's just like the quality of everything was better.
	Maybe the music was just that much better.
	Maybe the, the cinematography was that much better.
	The acting was that much better.
	Everything just blends in this film and creates a masterpiece.
	I would say this is a masterpiece.
	Hold the B roll here.
	This is the fight scene.
	We're going to talk about that next, but just a second here.
	Do you know the movie edge of darkness, Chris?
	No, I have not seen this film.
	So I mention it here for those who... So this music from Eric Clapton was basically stolen from a TV show called Edge of Darkness.
	Not stolen because Eric did the music for that show.
	It is a British thriller to do with murders connected to the British nuclear power industry.
	Mel remade it as a movie starring himself a few years ago.
	So guys, if you want to see one of the best thrillers, it's dark but it's really good.
	It has the star of, in Jurassic Park, do you remember the hunter who says, clever girl, just before he gets killed?
	Clever girl.
	Right?
	The clever girl guy is the hero of the TV show, Edge of Darkness.
	Same, almost beat for beat, same music from Eric that they reprised for the movie Lethal Weapon.
	And then Mel decides to remake the TV show as a movie a few years later.
	So just a little bit of trivia.
	I like to educate our audience.
	In college, if a girl would do something clever, I would go, clever girl.
	Did they ever get it?
	I don't know.
	I just thought I was a lunatic.
	Of course Chris did that, because he's a cool guy.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is Making Movies Great Again with my buddy Chris Coles, host of the Mr. Reagan YouTube channel, also Alpha Critic.
	What a great name.
	And the Twitter handle is MrReaganUSA.
	The thing about these Special episodes of America First, making movies great again.
	They literally last three... Chris, this discussion was about three minutes long this time, right?
	It felt like it.
	Nuts!
	This is too much fun.
	We could do this for hours.
	You know how dangerous?
	It's like, you know, Joe Rogan.
	We could do one movie for, like, five hours, I think, right?
	Honestly, for real.
	For real.
	For real.
	All right, one thing, one bone to pick with Mr. Donner, and even Mel, because Mel is a conservative.
	I'm sure he knew when he was saying this on camera it was garbage.
	He says, yeah, yeah, I'm crazy, and I want to kill myself, and I've even got a special hollow point bullet!
	And he stuffs it in Murtaugh's face.
	But it's not a hollow point.
	Show the image, Eric.
	A hollow point is on the left of the screen.
	It's got a HOLLOW POINT!
	A full metal jacket has no hollow point, and that's what Mel is holding in that scene.
	I am very sensitive to this issue, because one of my nicknames in the American military, amongst my American buddies, was hollow point.
	But I will save that story for another time.
	Last thing we have to discuss before you get to choose the next movie, Chris.
	What about the fight scene?
	How do you rate this comparison to other movies to die hard?
	Pretty good, no?
	Well, I have to say they had to end it with some kind of like showdown.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	So in terms of script, in terms of the story, it makes zero sense.
	Okay.
	This is eighties logic right here.
	You know, it's like, it's like he, that man knows where I live.
	I got to get back to my house.
	He knows where I live.
	Okay.
	He's just escaped from this like massive takedown.
	And he's not gonna run to Mexico?
	He's gonna go to your house for what, revenge?
	You just ruined Lethal Weapon for me!
	You just ruined the movie!
	No, but you know what?
	It's fine, and I'll tell you why it's fine, because it's 80s logic.
	It doesn't have to make sense.
	What happens is, what needs to happen for the script happens.
	You don't think too much about it, right?
	Right.
	So he goes to the house to take revenge.
	Why?
	Because he's just evil as heck.
	Because he's Mr. Joshua.
	That's who Gary Busey is.
	He's Mr. Joshua.
	That's who he is in this movie.
	Right.
	And so he goes there to take his revenge.
	And it also doesn't make sense because he kills the police officers, but then they knew he was coming because there's a note in there.
	So why wouldn't they have warned the police officers and then knock out?
	Anyway, so he gets there, sees the note.
	The car comes in, shoots up the car, there's nobody in the car, and you know what?
	They're gonna have a showdown.
	Does the showdown make any sense?
	To have a fistfight with the water coming down?
	Of course not, but it's spectacular, and you want to see it, and you want that showdown, and you want that moment where you feel the victory, but you don't quite get the victory because although he wins, He's actually still got a gun.
	He's actually still going to shoot them.
	And then boom, they both get him at the same time.
	And it's this camaraderie moment, like I mentioned before.
	And you know what?
	It's like the culmination of all the stuff we saw before.
	The bickering at the beginning, the having the dinner, the kind of becoming friends, the having mutual respect for each other, you know, saving each other's lives.
	And now finally, at the end, they just shoot the same guy at the same time.
	It's poetic, and it's beautiful, and it doesn't matter that it doesn't make sense.
	No, it doesn't.
	It's 80s world.
	It's 80s logic.
	That helicopter with the spotlights, so cool.
	Now, you're an actor.
	You film stuff.
	Just explain to the millions of listeners and viewers.
	They're standing in water, probably for about two weeks, filming this, right?
	Oh, gosh, you're right.
	I mean, I don't know how you would do that.
	Yeah, I mean... But it's days and days and days, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it would be.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you, you probably had stunt guys in there for some of it, but yeah, I mean, you see their face pretty clearly in a lot of these shots.
	So that must've been miserable.
	I will tell you what I've been on movie sets.
	I actually have a little bit of, um, uh, a problem with my eyes.
	My vision was slightly, uh, impeded because we shot something on like Mammoth Mountain.
	During the summer, and there's not as much atmosphere between you and the sun, so you got more UV radiation.
	It actually burned, I got sunburned on my eyes, which is crazy.
	Wow.
	So yeah, I mean, and it was a rough shoot, man.
	It was in the rocks, it was in the mountains, and the stuff, I was with Ben Affleck, Ben Affleck was doing it, and the stuff that Ben Affleck was having to do, he actually stopped the movie, and he was like, I'm not doing this anymore.
	We will do one more take, and then I'm done.
	The conditions were terrible and it was like super hot or super cold.
	And it was just ridiculous.
	And like stuff like this, I got to say, people don't really understand a lot of times that making movies is dirty work.
	It's unpleasant.
	Sometimes it's a little bit dangerous.
	It's unhealthy.
	I've done shoots where I just smoke cigarettes all day long.
	Not as bad as that movie about Genghis Khan that John Wayne starred in where 70% of the extras got cancer because it was filmed in the Nevada atomic test site.
	Do you know about that?
	Oh, I never heard about that.
	That's insane!
	So we've detonated hundreds of nuclear devices in the Nevada desert, right?
	This is why Area 51's there.
	It's the real reason Area 51 is top secret.
	It's not aliens.
	It's because we tested our nuclear weapons there.
	And in that desert, next to the test facility, one of John Wayne's period movies was made.
	I think it was the Genghis Khan movie, where he played Genghis Khan.
	And they had hordes of, you know, The Mongols riding across the desert and the whole place was irradiated.
	Like half of the extras.
	I had no idea.
	I've never heard that story.
	That's amazing.
	Half of them died of cancer.
	Look it up.
	All right.
	This is the moment.
	Every, every episode.
	We take turns.
	All right.
	Lethal Weapon.
	Classic.
	One of the best.
	Not just as a buddy buddy cop movie, but what are we going to review next?
	I do believe it's Mr. Reagan's turn.
	I think you're going to like this one.
	I've been thinking about this for a while.
	I had, I was going back and forth between two movies.
	I think, I think it's time that we did Alien.
	Oh yes!
	I was hoping.
	Make a little bit of a shift.
	I was hoping.
	Make a bit of a turn here into sci-fi.
	Love it.
	I'm a sci-fi geek.
	What, but you said you were worried.
	Why were you worried?
	I was worried that, because I was picking between that and another one.
	And I thought maybe you would want to pick it because these are kind of like your favorite movies.
	No, no, we take turns.
	We take turns.
	May I ask?
	I feel like I should pick the ones that are dear to me and you should pick the ones that are dear to you.
	No, no, no.
	What was the other one, may I ask?
	Well, it's one that we will do.
	Okay, good.
	Keep it classified.
	I'll tell you off camera.
	Keep it classified.
	I'll tell you off camera.
	We will do it.
	Okay, good.
	I'm so excited.
	This is a job where we actually, it's part of our job to watch great movies.
	I mean, look, somebody has to do this.
	I know, you're going to have to watch Alien this week.
	Somebody, and I'm going to... What was you?
	I'm going to say to my wife, what do you mean?
	What do you mean I'm just hanging out on the couch?
	I'm working.
	I'm working, darling.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Don't miss it.
	But we all know that Jennifer Lawrence was the very first action hero.
	The very first female action hero.
	She paved the way for the greats.
	I mean, you know, Sigourney Weaver.
	Totally, utterly irrelevant.
	Absolutely.
	But thank you, Jennifer.
	How stupid are you?
	Okay, it's been so much fun.
	Can't wait for next week.
	You have been watching, listening to Making Movies Great Again.
	Go off and watch Lethal Weapon.
	You know you want to.
	Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, keep your head in a swivel, watch your six, hold the line, never give up, never give in, and stay away from those malodorous swamp creatures.

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