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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: What's really going on with Steven Crowder and the Daily Wire?
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Thank you.
If you're a normal person, it's a pretty weird experience watching Joe Biden's presidency get euthanized by his own party.
On one hand, there's an undeniable thrill to it.
You have to admit that.
Biden is the most destructive president in American history.
More things have broken under his watch than under any other president.
Joe Biden deserves to be driven from office and disgraced.
But for this?
Breaking federal classification rules, some of the stupidest and most dishonest laws Congress has ever passed.
It's like arresting El Chapo for expired plates.
It's missing the point.
But it looks like that's what's going to happen.
It seems like every day when a Biden's lawyer shows up with more sheaves of classified documents.
Yes, indeed, euthanizing their own president.
Tucker does have a way with words.
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So, the Biden.
Oh, the phone lines are lighting up.
The number is 833-333-GORKA.
That's 833-334-6752.
We will make time for your calls all through the day.
But first, the saga continues.
If you missed it yesterday, our third hour was with the incredible Victoria Townsend and Joe DiGenoa.
And I tend to agree with the latest theory that they have developed.
That the hurried response, the sending in the lawyers who don't even have a security clearance to clean up the mess in aisle three at the Biden-Penn think tank in DC, finding the classified documents in the closet, that's because there's somebody on the inside.
Somebody on the inside has had enough with Joe Biden that knew the documents were there, that knew that in the 12 months between him leaving the vice presidency and the Penn University think tank being opened, those documents were floating around the ether illegally, not secured, not in a skiff, and then the rapidity with which the additional
Releases of documents being cashed away in the garage next to the Corvette in Biden's personal library.
Somebody's out to get him.
This is now damage control and we have a clip of Biden getting rather irritable.
He's attempting to read and failing to read his Press statements about it.
I think he's in California.
I think Gavin Newsom is standing behind him.
So the pressure is unrelenting and Biden is not up to dealing with it.
Cut three, play cut.
As we found, we found a handful of documents were failed, were filed in the wrong place.
We immediately turned him over to the archives and the Justice Department.
We're fully cooperating and looking forward to getting this resolved quickly.
I think you're gonna find there's nothing there.
I have no regrets.
I'm following what the lawyers have told me they want me to do.
It's exactly what we're doing.
There's no there there.
Thank you.
So do you remember the I am not a crook from Nixon?
That quote you just heard, that will be the I am not a crook for Biden.
There's no there there.
That's going to be clipped and saved and used against him, not just by us conservatives, by the Republican Party or people running against Biden in 24, because he won't be running in 24.
His party will have replaced him.
It will be used by the Democrats.
What a stupid thing to say when multiple, multiple top-secret SCI documents have already been found, and you say there's no there there?
I guarantee you, this is where it starts happening.
Eric reminded me, not long before he left us here, Rush Limbaugh said what?
Eric, what did Rush Limbaugh say not long before he died?
Friends of mine circulated a clip from The Great Rush about two months before he passed saying, roughly paraphrase, at a certain point, you're going to notice when the mainstream media starts to do their job again and all begins to turn on Biden all at once.
And then you'll know that's when they're ready to get rid of him.
Yeah, absolutely.
Jeff, let's get Jeff away from screening calls.
Is it nice to be back in the studio?
Did you survive Vegas?
What did you bring home with you?
I brought home a virus.
Yeah, I know.
You were a trooper all week at SHOT Show and you're in the studio again today.
You know what your problem was?
I had at least two or three massive cigars every night.
You had none, did you?
I had about a half on the first night and that's when it started getting worse.
You didn't have enough.
You should have just powered on through.
What do you think of Russia's prediction and the theory we had yesterday that somebody on the inside is pushing the Biden files?
I think it's exactly right about when the media starts turning on them.
Unless they're just trying to get rid of this.
I don't know.
If they're just pounding this to death way before the election.
And then what about, can you put that on hold?
Thank you.
What about Jeff?
The media on our side.
Have you been following the Daily Wire, Steven Crowder fiasco?
A little bit.
You brought it up to me and I was just reading about it a little bit.
So guys, and I know Eric's been following this closely, I have something to say about this.
And I said it to somebody at the Wire in a text this morning.
Guys!
You both look like idiots!
Steven Crowder!
Releasing parts of his contract with the Daily Wire.
They wanted to hire him for 50 million dollars.
But then he said, you're on the side of big tech because you'd penalize me if I lost money on YouTube.
As if you can lose money and get paid the same.
And then you're playing recordings?
Crowder, what are you doing playing phone recordings with the CEO of Daily Wire who considers you to be a friend?
That's just creepy.
And then Jeremy, reading out the contract for 50 minutes on YouTube.
Let me tell you something, neither side of that arrangement came out smelling of roses, okay?
So, the left Works together as a collective.
We shouldn't be a hive mind.
We shouldn't act like the Borg.
But at the end of the day, who's going to look good in all of this?
Nobody.
But I want to hear your comments.
The call board.
Wow.
It's full.
We're going to talk to Boris, then we're going to take your calls, so don't go anywhere.
Molly, Don, Sue, David, Dean.
So much to discuss.
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Mic's up.
All right.
There we go.
Yeah, the other thing it might be that, um, they don't want Biden to run again.
And he's basically, they've been telling that behind the scenes and he's just out publicly saying he's going to run.
You mean that this is just their way to stop him?
Yeah.
That's, that's yeah.
That's feasible as well.
Totally.
They needed him in 2020 alone.
They needed him to be, you know, a kind old grandpa who could beat Trump and be the gateway for... They've always suggested he is just a stand-in, like a gateway to someone like Kamala.
Like, why do you think in the early statements they would never say the Biden administration?
They'd say the Biden-Harris administration.
Well, no, because... No, that was because they wanted to show off that they had a black vice president.
That was just identity politics.
That wasn't some big, big strategic plan.
I also don't think they want the Hunter Biden investigation.
There's something that's gonna come out of that.
Oh, yes.
Like that caller who said the other day, like, he could implicate so many people through this, that, like, other people on the left.
Who?
Hunter or Biden?
That's, well, that was the caller's speculation, but I mean, just others and the Democrats, possibly.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, certainly the entirety of his family would be exposed by it, but I don't know if it would extend beyond that.
Oh, it's of course his fault.
Okay.
Oh, got titles in mind for Kohl's and for monologue?
Monologue.
Who's throwing Biden under the bus?
All right.
The Democrats.
Anything for movies or not yet?
Something about mullets.
Um... The best buddy cop movie ever, question mark.
Buddy cop movie ever, question mark.
He's up.
Baron.
Sebastian, how are you?
How's this?
Is it better?
A little better.
Can you hold it a little further away?
I'm literally holding it right to my... Oh, further.
How about this?
Yeah, keep talking.
I'm Boris.
I'm the Baron.
Everyone knows it.
I'm the world-famous Baron.
I'm gonna play Kinzinger with Baron, okay?
Kinzinger cut five.
You'll tee it up.
I'm not surprised you didn't join CNN right away.
He did, right?
But then Chaney didn't.
Chaney's still, I think.
He did, yeah.
He did, yeah.
Chaney's still.
Where are you at today, Boris?
I'm in beautiful Florida.
Oh.
Sounds like you're at an airport.
No, no.
I'm at my place in Florida.
Hold on one second.
45.
Okay, I'm good to go.
I want to go to a quiet place.
All right, 30 seconds.
I'm fully planning a cigar tonight.
Nice.
I had so many in Vegas this week.
I'd like two big ones at least every night.
20 seconds. 20 seconds.
20 seconds.
People who get a boot up the bottom, right?
All right, guys.
Don't do that again to me.
You've done that once in four years.
That is the only amount of times you're allowed to do it.
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Who better to have a cigar with than the Baron Boris Epstein!
Welcome back to America First!
Happy Friday!
Sebastian, thank you so much.
It's an honor to be here, honor to be on America First.
And it's a great day and no doubt, lots of plans for some cigars later on in the evening.
Now, I have to ask you, do you like the circus?
Have you ever been to the circus as a child?
As a little boy, I did used to go to the circus and I always enjoyed it.
You know, the elephants, the balloons, it could be a real nice time.
What about the clowns?
Did you like the clowns?
Not so much on the clowns.
The clowns can be creepy, especially when they're as clownish as Adam Kinzinger.
Let's play a little clip for our Buddy the Baron.
Cut five.
Are you meaningfully Republican anymore?
I know they kicked you and Liz Cheney out of the caucus when you joined the January 6th committee.
Is there meaningfully a party for you there?
You know, that's a question I ask myself all the time.
As Reagan famously said, he always said, I didn't leave the Democratic Party, they left me.
I feel that way about the Republican Party.
I still hold the values I hold, you know.
With time, you mature a little bit, you have different views, but I haven't totally sold out who I ever was just for power.
I feel like I'm maintaining that.
I don't know what my party believes anymore.
I honestly don't.
I mean, I don't hear them talk about smaller government.
I don't hear them talk about a strong national defense.
I hear some of them supporting Vladimir Putin over the freedom-loving people of Ukraine, and it's not a party I recognize.
I'll still fight for the soul of it, but I do feel a little politically homeless at the moment.
Eric, doesn't he work for CNN?
Yes, he does, as of just about a week ago or so.
Boris, isn't that a clue to what his real values are?
Help me out.
Sebastian, why are you being so mean about poor Adam Kinzinger?
I've been sitting here crying.
Because crying, Adam, that doesn't have a home.
Yes, Adam, you don't have a home.
You don't have a home because you betrayed the Republican Party.
You betrayed President Trump.
You stabbed us all in the back and the front.
With your gutless performance on the Onslaught Committee.
So good riddance.
Have fun over there at CNN.
I'm sure you'll be fired soon enough, crying Adam Kinzinger.
But that's such a good point.
It wasn't a stab in the back.
It was a stab in the belly for real Republicans and for the President.
Of course.
He participated in one of the most decrepit, deranged, wrongful witch hunts since the Stalinist Soviet Union.
That is what Adam Kinzinger took part in and was a leader in.
And now he's bemoaning he doesn't have a home.
He is absolutely beside himself.
He's beside himself because nobody in America can stand him.
Democrats don't want him.
Republicans hate him.
Enjoy CNN, buddy.
Have a good time at the network.
They just lost Atlanta headquarters.
Adam Kinzinger Bingo.
You nailed it.
All right, let's talk about the new Congress.
We have the new Speaker.
We have the amazing deal, the new requirements from the Freedom Caucus 20.
What are your expectations for the coming year and especially the new subcommittee of the judiciary when it comes to the whole Hunter Biden scandals, the weaponization of the FBI and the DOJ.
Are you looking forward to a solid year politically for the GOP, Barron?
No doubt about it.
James Comer at Oversight, Jim Jordan over at Judiciary, and the vital Select Committee on Weaponization are already starting to do very strong work demanding information from the Biden crime family, from the Treasury and the suspicious activity reports, from Twitter and other bad actors in big tech.
There's no doubt that the MAGA Control of the House of Representatives is going to be vital this whole year.
And yes, we are going to be holding Joe Biden, the Biden crime family, the woke, radical, weaponized Democrats, and all of their cohorts responsible.
So I absolutely believe that now that we have a speaker, the committees are being sat.
It's going to be a year full of activity, full of action, and full of wins for the Republican Party and MAGA.
Now, I'm asking all my special guests the same question, given what's happened in the last 14 days here in America.
One scandal about classified documents, OK, maybe that happens.
But four in the space of just four days.
Are the Democrats, in your estimation, Boris, are they throwing their own president under the bus right now with the Biden file scandal?
Well, everyone knows he's illegitimate, so even the Democrats realize that.
And they also have to realize the fact that Biden is absolutely hopeless and that there's no way that him and his pathetic comrades have any chance at getting reelected.
Now, having said that, is it the Democrats?
Or is it a absolute beautiful case of gotcha and boomerang?
Because what happened, Biden went out there and he himself, without anybody prompting, said, oh, I don't know how President Trump could be so responsible.
Well, here's the fact.
President Trump was responsible.
President Trump acted absolutely within the law and the rules and regulations according to the Presidential Records Act.
And the boomerang on Joe Biden and one of the best cases, again, OF SHORT AND FREUD AND CARMA IS THAT JOE BIDEN BROKE THE LAW.
AND HE DIDN'T TAKE JUST ANY LOOSE-LEA PIECE OF PAPER IN THERE.
HE -- IT APPEARS THAT SHE TOOK -- AND YOU KNOW THIS BETTER THAN ANYBODY -- TOP-SECRET SPECIAL COMPARMENTED INFORMATION.
AS HIGH AS IT GETS IN OUR COUNTRY, TSSCI, FULL-ON INTEL REPORTS, INTELLIGENCE REPORTS ON UKRAINE, ON THE UK, ON IRAN.
WHAT WAS JOE BIDEN DOING?
Why did he want the documents?
Was it because of Hunter Biden's business dealings?
And also, why did it take so long?
Even the New York Times just in the last hour releasing a long story of the 68 days of silence from Biden and his team.
And now we also know about the secret letters between Biden and the DOJ.
Trying to cover it up.
So here you've got a crime, it appears, and you've got to cover up.
Huge trouble for Joe Biden and his pathetic team.
And you heard Biden say there's no there there.
That's going to be the soundbite equivalent to Nixon's I am not a crook.
I guarantee it.
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Oh, you're right.
Yes, that was a monologue.
Sorry.
Let me tell you something about Kinzinger, for fun.
Kinzinger the clown.
Someone in the chat says, a great book title would be from Kissinger to Kinzinger.
Oh, funny.
Alright.
Alright.
Cools.
It's the weekend.
I still wish one of these days I could go back to the March for Life.
I haven't done it since, uh... I remember 2019, because I was entering the White House when the government shutdown was going on, so we weren't allowed to go to work.
So I'm like, oh, it's March for Life, and I've got nowhere to be.
Might as well go.
So that was... that was a great time.
I'm gonna, before the calls, I'm gonna tee up... Cut 6.
Cut 6.
Alrighty, you'll tee it up.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Let's see if Rumble is running more smoothly today with video uploads than it was yesterday.
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Listen to him.
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Thank you, Mr. President.
Hey, Alex, are you good at science?
Absolutely not.
You're the flipping board up.
You're the engineer.
How can you not be good?
I mean, science?
What kind of science?
Science, science.
Like, you know, atoms, molecules, protons, electrons, all that stuff.
No, sorry.
How did he get the job?
I need to know.
We're going to check out his resume.
Too late now, anyway.
But if you needed somebody to explain electricity to you, Alex, who would you ask?
It's a tough question, right?
Like that fake science guy, Bill Nye, the science guy.
Probably John, the engineer.
John, the chief engineer.
Right behind me, yeah.
Yeah, we'd ask John.
How about Kamala Harris?
Would you ask her?
Not a chance.
You are a sagacious man.
You are very, very wise.
Because here's Kamala Harris, and I'm not joking.
We didn't make this up.
This isn't a deepfake.
This is Kamala Harris explaining, yeah, the importance of electricity and how it works.
These lines connect the power plants where electricity is created.
To homes and businesses and schools and hospitals across our nation.
Think about it.
Every time you turn on a light or charge your laptop or plug in your air conditioner or put leftovers in the fridge, you rely on the power delivered by our nation's network of transmission lines.
Wow, that's deep.
That's like Russia is a big country.
It's next to a smaller country called Ukraine.
And the big country invaded the small country.
And that's wrong.
Do you realize she may be the next president?
Let's go to your calls, Molly San Antonio.
Happy Friday, Molly.
Hi, Dr. G. I've been trying to get a hold of you for a week.
I want you to find out if the day that Biden came back from He had just come back from Delaware, his usual weekend thing, and then suddenly turned around and went back the next day to vote, supposedly.
Yes, yes, yes.
But he made that sudden detour for about 15 minutes to the House.
I think that was the same day that that team found a document in the Penn Biden Center.
No, that was in November.
That was a long, long time ago.
Yes, but wasn't that...
November that they found it and he had come back in November.
I'm gonna check.
I don't think that turned around but we can check that pretty easy.
We'll check.
I don't know why I think it was the same time because everybody said why did he waste all that gas and money and everything that turned right around and go back.
But that pen thing isn't in Delaware.
That pen office is in DC.
You know that Molly, right?
But yes, but wasn't that lawyer that Found it.
It was an ex-Obama White House counsel.
Yeah, but what's your theory, Molly?
I think they're taking them out.
And oh, by the way, have you noticed?
You have to have noticed the views of the house, that mansion.
All we ever saw when that was the basement campaign house was a gate.
But now they're all over showing the size of that thing is staggering.
And that sure isn't a modest little home.
Well, no, I mean, Hunter Biden's got a lot of money.
I mean, he can afford $49,000 a month.
I mean, yeah, absolutely.
Thank you, Molly.
We're going to check into those dates.
You may be on to something.
Let's go to Los Angeles, line two.
Deep voice, Don.
Dr. G, happy Friday to you and happy March on Freedom Day.
Yes, absolutely.
What did you want to ask us or what did you want to say, Don?
Well, real quickly, oh, if Kinsinger, whatever the heck his name is, if he wants to know what part of the Republican Party it's the Judas G.O.A.T.
wing of the party, you know, the Benedict Arnold wing of the party, probably the Lincoln Project wing of the party.
Yes.
He'd probably fit right in.
I bet he's buddies with the Lincoln Project pedo-protectors.
I guarantee it, Don.
Oh yes, in more ways than one, I'm sure.
But, you know, seriously, This whole thing about Ukraine, it's frustrating because we're caught on the horns of a dilemma.
We don't want to just throw money at them like we did in Vietnam and Afghanistan without a strategy to win.
We need a strategy to win.
Too little medicine doesn't do any good.
Too much medicine kills.
We need to find the right dose.
ALL THE ARGUMENTS WE HEAR AGAINST GETTING IN, YOU SAY, "OH, WE HAVE STUFF TO DO OVER HERE." "OH, THAT'S SILLY." THAT'S LIKE ARGUING, "OH, WE'RE SPENDING TOO MUCH ON CANCER.
WE NEED TO SPEND IT ALL ON HEART DISEASE." "NO, WE NEED TO SPEND SOME ON BOTH. WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS." THING GOES.
YOU KNOW, BUT SERIOUSLY, THEY SAY, "WELL, THEY'RE CORRUPT." Well, we're corrupt over here.
Does that mean we shouldn't defend America?
Don, I did an hour-long interview with the great people at Epoch Times, Jan Jekielek.
It's up there.
You can watch it.
And he brought this up, I mean, as a devil's advocate.
And Jan's a great guy.
Like, well, Ukraine's corrupt.
And my point is, So's Washington!
Does that mean that Chinese tanks should be allowed to parade down Constitution Avenue just because our elite is corrupt as well?
Beautifully put, Don.
Guys, you need to see that interview.
I think it's all over our social media from last weekend.
Epoch Times, an amazing, amazing outlet, not the mainstream media.
All right, special guest from the March for Life next.
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I got to get better at being put on the spot like that.
I know, what was going on there?
You're like freaked out there, what's going on?
I was gonna say, if I got to ask that question, I would say, she makes Neil deGrasse Tyson sound like an expert.
That guy, I can't stand that guy.
He is such an arrogant piece of horse pucky.
And I don't know what it is about that name, but every time I just see that name and see the little smirk he has in his profile picture, I just think he looks like a professional comedian.
Like, he comes across more as a comedian than a scientist.
He just comes across as an arrogant piece of poop.
He's the Malcolm Nance of science.
Yes!
Yes, nice, nice.
March for Life, yeah.
Alright.
It is a pretty beautiful thing to think about that Ro is dead now 50 years later.
I know, on the anniversary, so cool.
I remember actually, on the Metro, last year's March for Life, of course I didn't get to go, but when I took the Metro to work, There were people, it was crowded with people who all had signs clearly on their way to the march.
Right.
And I got to talking to a couple of the older ladies there and I just, at one point, casually remarked, like, I wish I could go, but, uh, if anything, it sounds like this year might be the last march for life, huh?
Kind of like, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, because of course, already there was, and then sure enough, yeah.
Usually you're better, Alex.
Did I just catch you on a whiz there?
You did, yep.
You always gotta be ready, like a good boy scout.
Blame it on being a Friday, Alex.
No excuses.
No excuses.
What was it Geoff said?
He just writes off Mondays now?
No, that's me.
Oh, you said, okay.
Yeah, I've always written off Mondays.
Like, five years ago, you just realized you can't get any extra work done.
You can't, like, you know, sort your office.
You can't do anything.
No, no, no.
Just because you've had the weekend doesn't work like that.
Mondays are a write-off.
One minute and she's on.
Mic's on or off?
Mic's on.
Mic's on.
We'll try and make sure she doesn't swear this time.
Mary Margaret, are you there?
I'm here!
Where are you?
I am outside the Supreme Court at the March for Life.
We moved a little bit away so that it wouldn't be too loud.
Alright, stand by.
Stand by.
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Alright, we're live in 30.
Guys, come in with the President.
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Just the phraseology.
Oh my.
The only serving president to ever address the March for Life.
My former boss, President Trump.
And it's happening again right now!
And we're going to connect to one of the champions of the culture, of conservative culture.
She is senior reporter.
With The Daily Signal at the Conservative Mothership Heritage Foundation.
Mary Margaret Olihan, welcome back to America First!
Thank you!
I'm so happy to be back!
All right, so I've just literally retweeted, that's at the top of my Twitter feed right now, a little video you posted an hour ago.
Lots, you spelt the word lot with one, two, three, four, five, six O's.
Lots of police at the Supreme Court where the leftist protesters have gathered.
They lost last year.
We got rid of Roe v. Wade.
So tell us right now, what's the atmosphere like where you are at the Supreme Court?
Well, frankly, I've never seen more young people at the March for Life.
It's just so incredible.
There's all these college students, high school students, middle school, all here marching post row.
And, you know, we've been going around asking them, why are you here post row?
Why is it important to keep marching for life?
And they said, because there's still babies being aborted in the United States and we want to protect life.
It's just very impressive to see how much youth is here, how much energy.
I mean, we've been standing at the court for maybe an hour now and they're just still marching by.
They've been going and going and going.
That's fabulous to hear.
What about the leftists there?
What's the turnout like and how vituperative, how nasty are they being?
So it's the same group that has been coming to the court ever since the Roe v. Wade protest.
A bunch of leftist protesters with crazy colored hair, the same core group, maybe five of them.
And they marched around the March for Life rally earlier, shouting things.
And then they are out in front of the court now, yelling, and they've got their siren, noise maker.
So, frankly, they're way overwhelmed by the March for Life, because there's so many people here.
And when I arrived at the court, it seemed a little intimidating.
There's a lot of police here, and this group was making a lot of noise.
But the March for Life just swept through.
You can barely even hear them now.
And the March for Life is full of optimism and happy energy.
And it just, you know, completely outweighs this tiny little group of protesters who were here to disrupt.
And they're shouting negative things.
Everybody in the march is smiling and shouting positive things.
The contrast is striking.
Now, you've been reporting on this.
You've been on the front lines for so long when it comes to the culture, to pro-life.
Where do you see the next phase?
So, we struck down this absurd piece of garbage law.
It goes back to the states.
More and more states are seeing a burgeoning of a pro-life movement.
Where do you see the fight right now?
Long way to go.
Are you positive?
You're covering it all.
So, what's your analysis?
Oh, I'm very positive about it.
And you know, what we've been hearing from everyone is the fight for life is next at The state level.
And when you actually talk to everyday Americans about this issue, I'm sure you know, Americans are not aligned with the Democratic Party's views on abortion at all.
You know, they support many, many limits on abortion, restrictions on abortion.
They don't like the idea that a baby is hurt when it's in the womb, when it's suffering during an abortion, and they want to help the mother.
So I think that, you know, drawing on those ideas, state lawmakers have a lot of room to make changes and to ask American input on how do we help mothers and how do we help babies.
Yeah, it's a beautiful time to be alive, fighting for those in the womb, especially after the Supreme Court decision last year.
Stay safe, my friend.
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It's Ray.
Ray, happy Friday!
Happy Friday, and I'm great.
Those marchers are out there celebrating the defeat of Roe v. Wade, but it's also the longest funeral procession on the planet, Dr. G. Sixty-three million.
Better than 63 million innocent babies have been stripped from the safest place on earth, their mother's womb.
And that's a sad thought.
And I thought I would just go through some numbers.
Numbers don't do well on the radio, but I'll try to do the best I can here.
If we took all of the wars that Americans have been involved in since the Revolution War, 1812, Civil War, 1 and 2, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf, 1 and 2, Mexican-American, Indian, Spanish, I could only tally up 1.3 million deaths.
If you took... If the Russians were to attack any major city today, or the Chinese, and wipe out all of New York or all of L.A., we would be horrified.
But what if you took L.A., Chicago, New York, Phoenix, Miami, and count down the list until you get to number 80, 8-0, of America's largest cities?
Only then would you hit 63 million people, Dr. G. We have wiped out 80 of the largest American cities in abortion clinics.
It's horrifying.
Did you do that math yourself, Ray?
I just did it with some simple Google search.
I spent about 10 minutes on the internet today.
Those numbers may not be perfect, but they're accurate.
But it's right.
I mean, it's incredibly powerful, and I'm very grateful you did that.
Just the first metric that all the wars, that the American dead in all the wars Since the Republic was founded is less than 18 months of abortion deaths in America.
We're talking about 800,000 children in the womb being murdered every single year.
And that's just slightly less than all wars we've ever fought, Ray.
Yeah, in 2018, the CDC reported almost a million abortions in America.
Just in one year, Dr. G. This is so sad.
I used to be with the people on the left only from ignorance and being young and stupid and not knowing, and I slowly turned.
But I have to tell you, 20 years ago, when I held my baby daughter, who was one minute old, in my arms, in that operating room, when my wife had an emergency C-section, I knew right then.
I knew right then when I held her.
That my mind was changed forever.
This is a real person, a real person in this room with us, and they have to be protected.
It's how civilization is measured by how it protects the most vulnerable, especially the unborn.
God bless you, Ray.
Really, really well put.
Of course, because you're a listener, because you're a caller.
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This gets onto an interesting topic entirely on their own.
Yeah.
They're bringing up the fact that over eight months later now from the leak, we still don't know who the leaker is.
Like the Supreme Court just came out and released a statement saying they still don't know who it is.
Yeah, which we do know who it is.
Thank you very much.
Wait, oh, you're talking about what Chamberlain talked about?
Yeah, yeah, that female Breyer clerk.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
At this point, of course, people in the chat are suggesting like, if it's taking this long and they're claiming they don't know who it is, or maybe they know who it is, they just don't want to say because it would harm the institution at that point, which I'm like, The only way that would be the case is if it was one of the Justices who did it.
I don't think it would be one of the Justices.
No, it's not a Justice.
It's not a Justice.
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Happy Friday, Tom.
Hello, Sebastian.
Thanks for all you're doing for the pro-life.
We're losing you, we're losing you, but keep going.
Boris Epstein was on there, and obviously I'm not him or anywhere near him, but I gotta challenge what he said about Biden and the loathsome Democrats who have no chance of winning.
Look what they did last time.
Until we secure the elections, and until we get out there in numbers, And quit being overly optimistic or unrealistic.
It's going to happen again.
These people, irrespective of their exposure, they're being outed, they're being shown what they're doing and they're cheating and they're lying and everything else they've done.
But that's not good enough.
We've got to start with the abortion.
repentance, which is I'm glad both things are happening today.
We've got to start there, Sebastian, I believe.
Hang on, you lost me.
You had me there and you lost me.
What is abortion and repentance got to do with winning elections?
How are you making that connection there, Tom?
Okay, we've got to get God back on our side before he will quit standing idly by and letting us self-destruct, because what we're doing now is engaging in the evil of 63 million unborn.
I don't think we're losing elections because Americans aren't stopping abortion. - Well, it's part of the evil.
It's part of the total package of evil which is consuming our country.
The march through the institutions.
I understand all that.
You don't have to lecture me on evil.
I talk about it every day on the show.
But I've got to ask you, Tom, what are you doing to win the next election?
The first thing I'm doing is I'm fasting at least one day a month.
I'm not talking about religious activities.
What are you doing politically?
Okay.
I'm engaged with my senators, my state senators, my... Alright, here's what I recommend to you and everyone listening, all three and a half million of you.
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What was it, Jeff?
Was it four years ago at CPAC when I talked about cheeseburgers?
Yes.
And the left went insane when I gave that speech.
Yeah, Morning Joe went nuts over it.
Morning Joe!
The Telegraph, the Daily Mail, even the conservatives ran the story because I said they're coming after your cheeseburgers, I warned you, and they laughed.
Not anymore.
This from the World Economic Forum in Davos just a day ago.
My daughter, 24, inspired me and said that how can you
Advocate for these zero carbon value chains if you still eat meat So I stopped eating meat Now the math would say well you need to stop eating meat 11 years to compensate for a flight to Thailand Yes, but if a billion people stop eating meat I tell you it has a big impact
If a billion people stop eating meat, my question is, who's going to make them stop eating the meat?
Let's ask a man who understands the economics of freedom.
He is the Dean of the Business School at Liberty University, former Congressman Dave Brat.
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Yep, it's pretty staggering.
Your jaw just drops.
But they know how to proceed.
They just plod and go step by step by step through the institutions, through the issues, through every product, through every CEO.
And they just signal, even if it's a decade ahead, here's what's coming your way.
If you don't submit, I will punish you.
I see some cracks in the armor.
It looks like the American people are waking up to some of this, the abuse in the schools and some of that.
I think their days are numbered.
And they've always wanted to work through the CCP as well.
And now China is really cracking up under some significant issues at home.
And Xi Jinping and the 20th CCP Congress basically came out with the three points.
They're going full-on Marxist-Leninist, no market reforms, They're getting rid of the Chinese peace and harmony stuff and moving to a war footing with their language.
The globalist project usually has to go through China somewhat.
They're in the middle of all of our institutions damaging us with psychological warfare, economic warfare.
The relative decline of China will help soften some of this, I hope.
Yeah, but the question is, when you've got people at the WEF saying, well, a billion people need to stop eating meat, who's going to stop them?
What force are you going to use to stop them?
Let's look at our economy.
We have to talk about the debt ceiling.
You and Steve Bannon got into a little bit of a Contre-temps over your proposal.
I want to hear it here, not just on The War Room.
But Jamie Dimon, JP Morgan, just said something on live television that... Look, I'm not an economist.
You're the economist.
But I've been saying this for three or four years now.
Bitcoin is a con.
If you thought fiat currency was bad, Bitcoin is fiat currency on steroids.
And listen to what Jamie Dimon said.
Cut to.
He mentioned Bitcoin.
You said you didn't know what we were talking about.
We pretty much always have some crypto conversation with you.
I'm just curious, because I don't think we've talked to you since... I think all that's been a waste of time, and why you guys waste any breath on it is totally beyond me.
Because you just think the whole thing just is... Going to zero?
Going to zero and it's fake?
Bitcoin itself is a hyped-up fraud.
It's a pet rock.
You're back to that?
Really?
Of course, yeah.
Bitcoin is a hyped-up fraud.
It's like a pet rock.
Wow!
Isn't that going to affect the market, Dave?
Yeah, no, I don't put any bets down or give financial advice.
Blockchain is here to stay.
But blockchain as a technology, right?
Yeah, right.
And the idea that it's unhackable or very hard to hack.
And then DeFi, decentralized finance is great.
Every conservative libertarian minded loves all of the logic there.
And Jamie, you know, he's just overstating.
Now, different bets on different firms is a different matter.
And I'm not going to get in the weeds on that.
But one of these is going to come out OK.
And the reason they'll come out OK is because it's built on the same foundation that the dollar is.
And that's faith that it will work.
And if enough people have faith that it will hold value and that they'd rather have that hold their value than the U.S.
dollar hold their value over time and maybe appreciate a little bit.
Hey, that sounds interesting to me, but I'm not trending my name toward any of it.
Right, but it's an if.
It's an if.
If people have faith in it.
If the market wants it.
If the market doesn't have faith, if there's another FTX, then who knows?
Then who knows?
All right, now, before we get to your recommendations for the debt ceiling, imagine this is day one of your Econ 101 class, all right, Professor?
Explain, you've got three and a half million people listening right now, what is the debt ceiling and why is it important?
Can you just give us the one-on-one first?
Yeah, well, the debt ceiling is now set to $31 trillion.
It's basically an important symbolic marker that shows that we at least care about the amount of debt.
Now, every year we let it ride.
There's been movements to get away with it, to do away with it, to let it go away for the year, etc.
Uh, so we don't take it seriously at all.
The reason it's so serious now is because you got inflation, right?
So for the first time, everyone's been asking me to tea party for 20 years, but this is the first time there's any real leverage for a couple of reasons.
One is because the 20 heroes in the house.
Uh, but secondly, and more fundamental, it's because the interest rates going from zero to 5% this year on our debt.
So when you do 5% of $32 trillion, you get about $1.5 trillion in interest payments alone on the debt.
The defense budget right now is $800 billion by comparison.
So you've got two defense budgets in interest payment.
So what is your recommendation?
On the debt ceiling increase?
The problem with it is it comes after we've already allocated and ran the budget and jacked up the budget with an omnibus.
Right.
So my recommendation is we got to use this as the one point of leverage to fight back and get what we need for economic sanity.
So there has to be.
And Russ Vogt is the expert on this.
Right.
Just go look at his budget that he's proposed.
It just gets rid of all the nonsense in government.
It's very well thought through.
And so you argue for a massive change in spending while you have the leverage in order to save the country.
The problem with this is you're fighting Santa Claus, right?
The left wants to provide you with every good and service known to mankind.
But our side needs to do a better job of explaining and putting the left on defense and saying, so how much more than $32 trillion do you want?
This is a rational conversation.
Please name your number.
It's like the immigration debate, that classic moment when Stephen Miller said to that reporter in the White House, so what is the limit on immigration?
A billion?
Is it seven billion?
If there's no number for immigrants, then you're not a serious person.
All right, you used the word.
We've got a minute left.
You said the 20 heroes.
We haven't spoken since the choice of McCarthy.
You served in Congress for Virginia.
I think we owe a massive debt of gratitude.
Talk to us about those four days as a former congressman, Dave.
Oh, they're gut-wrenching.
I mean, the whole world's on your case.
Every press, all your donors are calling you.
Everyone in your state's calling you.
People across the country's calling you.
Major political figures are calling you, saying you've lost your marbles because you're against $1.5 trillion deficits.
It's just numbing.
And so all the business folks and CEOs, one-on-one, I ask them what we just talked about.
What size deficit are you in favor of?
And then they say to you, don't be a smart aleck.
For real.
And I'm like, I'm not being smart.
You're a better businessman than I am.
I'm asking you for your wisdom.
What's the number?
Since you're saying I'm crazy, I'm asking for a rational, less crazy answer.
What's your number?
Because I got to vote on a number.
That's my job, right?
So help me out, wise man.
And nothing.
All right, well, we do.
The right word is heroes for the 20.
They've changed politics for at least 10 years.
The kind of congressman that this man was, but now he's the dean of the business school.
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We'll talk that.
We'll talk the Kamala at the border.
What else?
Good hotels in... Marrakesh?
Have you seen this new thing, The Offer?
It's awesome.
It's a mini-series about the making of The Godfather.
Oh, Jeff has been raving about it!
Written by the guy that produced it.
It's super entertaining.
Really?
Yeah.
Especially if you know all the ins and outs of everything.
What was that?
Puzo, right?
Mario Puzo.
Mario Puzo.
I didn't know anything about the producer.
Anybody famous in it?
Well, the lead's Miles Teller, who's the guy that was in Top Gun.
And a bunch of other character actors.
Because everybody kind of looks like, you know, like, Allie McGraw looks like Allie McGraw.
All right, so I'm going to tee up cut 9.
I'm going to do car 15, and then merge, and then cut 9.
All right.
And you said you'll want to use cut 7 at some point?
Probably in the second segment.
Second segment.
You got it.
With car, merge, tee up cut 9.
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Wow.
Yeah.
That's fascinating.
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Just looking at the figures being reported on cable news for layoffs, people being fired, another 3,700 at Twitter.
That's already after the 70% that were kicked out when Elon took over.
How about this?
11,000 at Facebook, 10,000 at Microsoft, and a whopping 18,000 from Amazon.
What does that presage for the future?
We will discuss that and more, but it's Friday.
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Colonel, Doctor, Jim, welcome back.
You know, it's funny because, you know, these companies, The rank and file are overwhelmingly leftists, right?
And they're the ones cheering and clapping, look, Joe Biden's our president.
There is a bit of irony there.
And he costs them all their jobs.
I mean, it would be funny if it wasn't also impacting all of the rest of us, whether it's our portfolios or our IRAs or filling up the gas tank or anything else.
This guy's been a disaster for the American economy.
And every day we turn around, we get more proof of that.
And not just that, when it comes to national security's handling of the most classified documents.
We'll talk about that later.
But as I was prepping for the show today, I went onto your Twitter feed and you retweeted a video from the current Secretary of Homeland Security.
Let's just play the video and get your commentary so people who don't have Twitter don't have to read his account.
This is Cut9, the head of Homeland Security.
FEMA is providing emergency food and shelter program funds to help cities around the country recover or defray the costs of non-citizen arrivals.
CBP and ICE are working closely with cities to share information and coordinate the disposition of non-citizens in immigration enforcement proceedings.
Just the Orwellian phraseology, non-citizen immigrants.
There's a legal term for that and it's not non-citizen immigrants, it's illegal aliens.
The Secretary of Homeland Security is using that phraseology.
But Jim, FEMA being used to shelter and house illegal immigrants, is that why we created the Federal Emergency Management Agency?
Yeah, so we should unpack this because this is so wrong in so many ways.
FEMA, which was created by Jimmy Carter, bringing together disparate bits of agencies for the express purpose of, there is a disaster that impacts Americans.
We all rush in as a nation to help and FEMA helps coordinate that.
Right, a hurricane or whatever.
Forest fire.
Tornado.
Flood.
9-11.
It was not designed to house illegal immigrants.
This is an absolute, and so that's wrong.
You're taking resources, what do we do when there's a disaster?
They won't be there for Americans.
That is absolutely wrong, because we don't know when the next disaster is going to strike.
So literally I can guarantee you, if there's a disaster on the scale of what we just saw in California with the flooding, there will be American citizens that won't get help because FEMA is housing illegal immigrants that Joe Biden brought into the United States.
Every cartel member's dream.
I can take that video and use yet another ad, don't worry, Americans will take care of you, they will house you, they will feed you.
They can use that video to pitch to the illegal immigrants, use my human trafficking cartel, give me the $5,000, the $7,000, because hey, look, the Americans have said, we're going to build you camps and we're going to feed you.
So it's an incentive for more illegal immigration, of which they don't have a plan to deal with the illegal immigration they have now.
And here's the number one bottom line.
Who's paying the bill for all this?
We are.
This is the world's largest human trafficking network.
No country in the world has a border policy like this.
No country in the world intentionally imports millions of illegal people and then pays everything on the burden of the American taxpayer.
So this is just wrong 14 ways from Sunday and a mark of how this whole issue is not getting better.
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To the point of how others look at our policies, such as the border policy, how remarkable is it, we played the clip as soon as it happened last week, that the President of Mexico at an open press conference in front of the international press community Thanks, President Biden, for being the first president to not build one meter of border wall.
How weird is that, Jim?
Well, look, he's making a ton of money off of this.
His corrupt officials are making money off of this.
The cartels are.
But to publicly say it!
Yeah, well, because they have no fear.
They have no fear of this president, this administration, right?
You know, what's going on, and this is part of my frustration, is we don't really grasp the magnitude of what's wrong here.
You know, we talk about the numbers of ill-immigration, we talk about the COVID deaths, we talk about the cartels.
This is destabilizing the entire Western Hemisphere.
And it's hugely advantaging the Russians, the Iranians, the Chinese.
All these things are linked together.
We are building a crisis in our own backyard of our own making.
And then when leaders who are avowedly anti-American applaud us for what we're doing, that should be a red flag for people.
Yeah.
Well, she was in Arizona.
And Kamala Harris was asked, because I think she was made the borders arena.
And she had a very strange response to what her priorities are.
Cut seven.
Play cut.
You decided not to visit the border.
Can you tell me why?
I am here to talk about what we are doing around bringing down the cost to American families and creating jobs.
Let me say on the border that it is one of our highest priorities.
Do you have any plans to visit the border in Arizona?
I've visited the border.
I will not on this trip, but I have and I will again.
So just to disconnect that I'm not going to the border because I'm here to deal with jobs.
How is that not connected, Jim?
Well, first of all, when you say this is one of our highest priorities, OK, so we are having illegal aliens come to this country at an unprecedented rate.
By the end of Biden's term, the illegal population in the United States will be more than double I'll talk about something else.
And she did.
She talked about electricity.
less secure.
We are more at risk now to a terrorist attack than we were in 9/11.
The level of crime and drugs and opioids.
So if this is your highest priority, then basically you just admitted that you have absolutely and completely failed on the highest priority.
And what do you do when you're a politician and the things that you're supposed to do don't work?
You talk about something else.
I'll talk about something else.
And she did.
She talked about electricity.
She tried to explain it.
It was funny in a sad way.
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I'm going to, can you get the cut we used yesterday of Biden with Ducey?
Biden with Ducey.
Yes, I have it.
The Corvette.
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It is ready.
And then we're going to do tax defense at the top here.
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We spoke debt ceiling.
What did we speak first?
What was the first topic?
First topic was the meat.
The WEF made it meat.
And then also Bitcoin.
Oh, yeah.
What's his name?
Jamie Diamond is right.
Bitcoin is a, what did he call it?
A fraud.
A fraud.
He's already outspoken about the economy being bad, I think.
Oh yeah, he has.
as we've used them before.
So you spent a week there, right?
About a week?
Yeah.
Flew out Sunday, got there Monday, flew back Friday.
It was the perfect amount of time.
So you just changed planes in Lisbon?
Yeah.
Marrakech airport's really great.
Yeah?
Super modern.
Yeah.
And who was it?
Like mostly Germans?
And who were the tourists there?
Oh, well, there are very few tourists there, actually.
Yeah?
Mostly French.
French?
Yeah.
And they hate the French.
But they love their money.
They do.
They do hate the French, but they do love their money.
Alright, 90 seconds.
Well, American college students.
The upscale stuff, everybody's mostly French and a few Europeans and stuff, but you know, you go into the restaurants that are kind of, you know, a lot of college students.
We had dinner next to like eight Americans, you know, from all over.
Staying in youth hostels and stuff like that.
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You can follow him on Twitter at JJ Carrafano, Vice President of the Heritage Foundation.
Jim, can you cut through the noise and just get to the signal of the last two weeks when it comes to these classified documents?
Or maybe most useful is you help us in terms of how other nations look at us when these issues like Afghanistan and withdrawal and everything else.
When, you know, TSSCI documents are next to the paint cans in the garage.
This doesn't look like a serious country, does it?
Let's talk about that first, then we'll talk about what's actually going on here.
You raise a really good point.
Just a few weeks ago, Joe Biden was on top of the world.
He didn't get trounced in the midterms.
He basically pushed through a ton of his leftist agenda so he could turn to the leftists and say, look, I accomplished what you want.
And he was so emboldened, and to me it's a really key point, so emboldened that he even went to the border, because he'd been criticized for not doing that for two years, and now he goes, why?
Because he feels so strong, so powerful, that he can go to the border and just lie his way through this and get away with it, right?
Even, you know, I'm impervious to this.
And yet two weeks later, he is really under assault.
And I think it shows the fragility of his power.
And so I think very much world leaders are back to where they were.
Before the midterms, worrying about, does this guy really have what it takes?
Is he really the leader of this country?
To go from such a seemingly powerful position to stumbling over talking points from his lawyers about the documents.
Right, and is he distracted?
Because they don't really think he's a strong foreign policy president.
Even in Ukraine, we have to remember, he was dragged into Ukraine.
His national security advisor, Sullivan, every day says, let's just cut a deal and get the hell out of there, right?
The Brits were embarrassing us in terms of their forward-leaning.
You know, even look at Iran.
I mean, the Europeans have been really tough on sanctioning the Iranians on their human rights abuses, and the administration's almost been, like, adrift.
So I think the world opinion is we're back to, maybe this isn't the guy that's going to be around in two years, and maybe this isn't the strongest partner we have.
So that's true.
The substance of it, as you know, I was in the military for 25 years, and I had a clearance every day, and I dealt with classified information my entire career.
So there's a couple of things on this.
First of all, they tacitly said, yeah, we mishandled documents.
Yeah, right.
Well...
That's wrong.
And when they say we inadvertently did this, that's a completely meaningless statement.
Doesn't matter.
If you go, if you leave a top secret document in a Starbucks, you know, when you walk away because you're sipping on your pumpkin latte, or you hand it off to a Russian agent, it's still wrong.
It doesn't matter why you did it.
These documents were given to you as a trust and you violated that trust.
If your bank called you up and said, Seb, we lost all your money.
We're sorry, it was a mistake.
You're like, but it doesn't matter.
You still lost my money, dude.
Right?
So they've actually admitted that they did something wrong.
I think the second thing is when people say, well, contrast this with Trump.
With Trump, it was a dispute over custody of documents.
It was never a question of these documents weren't properly maintained or compromised.
It was a question over who should own them.
That's actually a dispute.
That's not a crime.
That's not even doing anything wrong because he was the president.
What Biden did is clearly wrong.
And I think the worst thing of all is, and this happened months ago, the DOJ and the White House intentionally planned to bury this entire story, and they were never going to talk about it, even though what they did was worse than Trump, and they used this thing to hammer Trump politically, and they were just going to ignore their problems and just sandbag the American people.
Not only that, not only did they know about it months ago, not only did they know about it before the midterms and sit on it, these are documents from six years ago.
They've been floating around, Jim, not for a month or two months, six years!
And you can't assume that because...
Well, the documents are still there that nothing was compromised, right?
Because spies who aren't stupid, and there are a few in this world, if that is a classified document, it's not, folks, I swear.
But let's pretend that that's a... I'm not going to steal that document.
It's not classified, but hey, you don't need a Minox camera from a James Bond movie.
I think people have...
Cameras in their phones, right?
You would make a copy of the document.
Nobody steals the documents.
Hanson didn't steal the documents.
The pumpkin papers, they didn't steal.
They copy the documents because they don't want you to think they're gone.
But the most powerful thing is what he said about if the bank loses your money.
Nailed it.
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We're going to do something a little bit different today on Second Amendment Friday because we gave you so much gun content with our two days of broadcasting from the SHOT Show on the Strip in Vegas that we're not going to talk to a gun manufacturer or to somebody who's a specific expert on firearms.
We're going to talk to somebody who Well, he has a more holistic approach to things Second Amendment and security.
He is with Sentinel Protection Strategies.
His name is Jock Condon because I do believe he's Scottish.
Jock, welcome to America First!
Hi Seb, I'm glad to be here.
How are you doing?
Oh my gosh, I don't know where they found that photograph.
They just put a photograph up of you looking very Secret Service.
You've got a poppy on and you're carrying a very nice SIG SBR.
Do you know anything about this photograph of you?
I do.
That was taken within the green zone of Kabul in Afghanistan about 2010.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
You're in the green zone of Iraq and you're wearing a suit and tie.
Well, it's Afghanistan.
When I was in Iraq, I never wore a suit.
Yep, middle of the green zone, outside the British Embassy in Kabul.
Sorry, Kabul, Afghanistan.
So are you doing PSD for the diplomats?
Is that why you look so natty there, Jock?
That's exactly it.
That's my suit and SIG photo.
I've never seen a PSD detail with a short barreled SIG and a beautiful EOTech.
That is some nice gear you've got.
Sorry I'm walking out here but we wanted to talk about your company.
Let's have some fun.
This is the photograph we took at SHOT Show that I said I would not use because Jock sent it to me saying, this looks like a hostage photograph, like I've just taken you hostage.
What was wrong with you that day?
Were you just awestruck?
What was your problem?
Did you have some food poisoning?
Starstruck, to be honest.
As soon as you said that was it, I was just... Alright, let's have some fun.
Go back to the cool photograph with the SIG assault rifle.
Alright.
So, you pitched to me a very interesting service that you provide.
What is Sentinel Protective Strategies all about, Jock?
Okay, so we empower people to really use the Second Amendment to their advantage, you know?
The Second Amendment is there.
It shall not be infringed.
Having spent 20 years in law enforcement and 10 years in the private security industry looking after Fortune 500 CEOs and the likes, you know, people should be secure in their homes.
I know they say, and you like this one, Seb, that an Englishman's home is his castle.
Right.
So, and it's here, everybody's a pure castle, and that's why we have laws within each state.
You know, that's commonly referred to as a castle doctrine.
You have the right to stand your ground in your own home and protect your family.
So what we did is we designed a training program.
So we'll go out somewhere.
We will Look at somebody's property.
We'll do a residential risk assessment.
Let them know where they're weak.
So you will go to them instead of people going to some training facility and learning how to shoot or do you know Self-defense you will look at their situation in situ Absolutely.
Yeah, we don't draw people in and throw 20 people in the classroom and just throw information at them I will go into somebody's house and They know their house better than anybody, so we can identify their stronghold.
If someone comes in with bad intentions, we'll be able to tell them exactly where to go and draw that line in the sand.
Now, it seems to me that this is just logical because everybody's home, everybody's own circumstance is utterly unique.
So, why isn't everybody doing this?
Because this just makes sense, Jock.
I don't know.
I don't know.
For me, it's more of a personal thing for me.
It's like if somebody comes into my home, then I'm going to be ready.
I know exactly where the choke points are.
I know where my weapons are.
They're secure so that my child can't get access to them.
And it should be that in people's homes.
You should feel secure and safe and know that if someone does come in with bad intentions that, well, you're going to fight back.
Quite rightly so.
What is the most obvious thing people get wrong or thing that surprises them when you do that survey of their home?
What is the thing that most people don't realize about being safe at home, Jock?
Really, it's, um, you know, with people with bad intentions, they're going to try everywhere.
And really, the focus is to just keep pushing them down the road.
What a lot of people don't like because of the aesthetics is lights.
You light up the front of your house and you light up that defensible space between your house and your perimeter.
It's going to turn people off.
You put cameras up.
Bad guys don't want to be seen.
They're mostly opportunists.
And they don't want to get caught.
So, lights is a big thing.
A lot of people don't like the lights, whether it's something in the HOA or they just don't like the aesthetics of it.
But we can quickly change their mind on that one.
All right.
Sentinel Protective Strategies is the website.
I'm impressed.
I think I might have to do this for Gawker HQ, especially after our recent burglary.
God bless our dogs, Killian and Leia, that scared off the burglars with probably a few bite marks in their backsides.
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Jock, let's have some fun now.
We've got a minute left.
Let's talk about guns.
What's your favorite carry weapon at the moment?
My favorite carrying weapon right now is the Israeli weapons industry Jericho 941.
That is unusual!
That is very unusual.
It's very unusual.
Why do you like that?
That's a double action, single action like a CZ-75, right?
Is that why you like it?
Yeah, and it's all metal.
The only thing that's not metal is like the grip that screws on.
You know you're carrying this thing and it's one of the sweetest guns I've ever fired.
9 mil or 40?
Nine mil.
Nine mil, all right.
And the other one, I've got another couple, the 6365, love it.
Everybody, everybody says 6365.
I'm like, come on guys, can you be more imaginative?
Give me one more.
Okay, the HKVP9.
That is unusual.
I like that.
One of my favorites.
I'm old school 1980s.
HK P7 M13.
Have you ever shot one of those, Jock?
I haven't.
Oh, we'll have to make that happen.
We'll do a little bit of a trade.
Yeah, you gotta hook me up.
You'll come check out my HQ and I'll let you fondle my HK P7.
How's that?
Just give us some alone time.
We'll be fine.
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He's not a hostage.
He saves hostages.
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Eric, I've just sent you a photograph.
I want to show it from one of our buddies who's at the March for Life.
But first, our guest.
I didn't have no idea.
I know he has a company, but it turns out he's also a deputy in one of the biggest sheriff's department.
And he got off the interview and he said, oh, by the way, I'm at a traffic stop.
We're just about to serve somebody with a warrant.
Could you imagine?
You know, a guy in a full sheriff's gear with a Scottish accent rolls up in America and serves you with a warrant.
God bless you, Jock.
Keep safe out there.
All right.
The race has started, I guess.
Who declared?
Who said they're going to run for... Oh, yeah!
Moustache Bolton.
Number two is Nikki Haley.
She thinks she should be president.
Cut eight.
We are in the new year.
How are those tea leaves looking?
Are you going to run for president?
Well, I'm not going to make an announcement here.
But when you're looking at a run for president, you look at two things.
You first look at, does the current situation push for new leadership?
The second question is, am I that person that could be that new leader?
Yes, we need to go in a new direction.
And can I be that leader?
Yes, I think I can be that leader.
I'm a bit confused, Jeff.
Can you help me out here?
She says, I'm not announcing now, but I think I can be that leader.
Isn't that the announcement?
I know, it's so dumb.
It just announced.
We know that she's running.
It's pathetic.
Alright.
Are you impressed, Eric?
Are you going to vote for Nikki Haley?
I almost... She's one of my least favorites.
I would consider sitting out the election if she was a nominee.
Alright.
Why?
That's interesting.
Why almost your least favorite?
Explain that.
I believe it is because, among many other things, She, as governor of South Carolina, had the absolute audacity to blame then-candidate Donald Trump by name for the Charleston church shooting, right after it happened.
Then she did it again one year later.
You know what it is for me?
Her horse pucky eating grin standing next to John Brennan when they were co-speakers on a panel.
Do you remember that?
Do you remember that, Eric?
Oh yeah.
Her new buddy, John Brennan, who called President Trump her boss, by the way, because she was ambassador to the United Nations, called her boss a traitor.
But it's no problem!
I'll just hang out with you because, you know, you're a swamp creature too.
Doesn't have a chance.
But get in the ring!
We're going to have some fun.
Primaries, absolutely.
All right.
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Welcome, dear friends.
It's Friday, where we celebrate the Second Amendment.
We have a little bit of fun.
Ask Dr. G anything.
But then, this hour...
It's the manhood hour, where we delve deep into the state of our culture, our society, and, I would say, our civilization, to talk about the war on certain traditional values.
And, uh, yeah, we've had members of Delta Force, former COs, pastors on the show, but I don't think we've had anybody whose official job title is so on the money, he could be a co-host of the show.
Delano Squires, Heritage Foundation, research fellow at the DeVos Center, where your portfolio is, is what?
Is family, fatherhood?
Marriage.
And marriage!
Correct, correct.
All right, so you bring the credentials.
Yes, I do.
All right, we're going to have some fun here.
Your former colleague, my wife, Katie, has five big questions I have to ask all of our Manhood guests, and then we'll have some fun.
But first things first, I was just thinking, as we are prepping, if you had been born in feudal England, I think we'd have to change your skin color, but if you had been of a certain correct class, you could be Squire Squires.
Yes, that is true.
That could be cool.
Yeah, I never thought of it that way.
All right, I just saw a little bit of an English historic interject there.
All right, so let's get down to work.
Let's get serious.
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All right, first question from the boss.
Is manhood under assault?
What is the reality today?
Absolutely!
I mean, it's been under assault for decades and I think what we're seeing now is, you know, sort of the I'm hoping it's the end stages of sort of second wave feminism and its assault on manhood.
I'm hoping that the pendulum is going to swing back.
When I see figures, so for instance, someone you might have talked about, when I see someone like Andrew Tate sort of pop up and gain millions of followers, I see that as an overcorrection.
I hope we come somewhere.
You're not a fan of Tate, I presume.
I probably agree with him in terms of being anti-feminist.
I don't agree with him in terms of going around the world, siring a bunch of kids, coming back to America, sending them $100 a month, and letting them live with their moms.
But I think, again... The phenomenon speaks to something, right?
Correct.
Correct, correct, correct.
He is a reaction to something.
And as I said, oftentimes in life, particularly with errors of this magnitude, when you have people committed to emasculating men, to tearing down marriage, to questioning biological sex itself, Oftentimes, what you get with errors of that magnitude is overcorrection, not correction.
And I think we need to come somewhere back to the middle.
But masculinity is definitely under attack.
We went from fighting sexism to fighting masculinity.
And I think we're in a position now where this generation of boys and young men, many of them are more feminine than their mothers, and many of their sisters are more masculine than they are.
Yeah, that's so true, that's so true.
Let me just tease you out there a little bit, because you say you're hopeful, you're seeing maybe an over-compensation.
Does that mean that you think this is just like a sine wave, it's just cyclical?
Or is it more than that?
Is there some kind of organic, systemic pushback to the, you know, hatred of manhood and the labeling of toxic masculinity?
It's hard to say.
Again, I'm hopeful that we come back to our senses.
Part of the reason is because At this trajectory, again, where you have people saying that biological sex is fiction, right?
They're saying all that matters is gender identity.
You can't have a culture or a civilization like that.
We can't survive if we continue on this trajectory for another 30 years.
Or if we do survive, we'll all be speaking Mandarin because Someone is going to take over a civilization that is that weak where it can't figure out, you know, which sex has the babies and which one doesn't.
Let me be devil's advocate.
Why is that weakness?
Why isn't that just flexibility?
A man can have babies, Delano!
Don't be such a hater!
I mean, it's weakness because you're talking about people who have lost touch with reality.
And this is not an insignificant reality.
It is the fundamental biological reality of human civilization.
That there are males and females, men and women, and that you need both of those, you know, a man and a woman to procreate and then to propagate the species.
If we lose sight of that, if our feet come off the ground, And then we'll be able to be tossed to and fro by whatever enemy chooses to take advantage of us.
So I'm hoping, and I see signs.
I mean, the fact, and we talked about masculinity, which obviously is tied to some of our gender fights, but when you have women who self-identify as radical feminists, Being on the side of conservatives as we fight back against the gender ideology nonsense.
Meaning those feminists who say, for example, that transgenderism is an assault on women.
Correct.
You see people who we would have been fighting ten years ago now joining our side because they're starting to understand that you can't beat biology.
And they've been slow to understand that.
Now, they may fight with us and say, well, we still think patriarchy is oppressive.
And my response to that is that you all have not destroyed patriarchy, you've just deformed it.
And three new forms of patriarchy have sprung up.
One, conservatives fight vigorously and recognize.
One is bureaucratic patriarchy, right?
In terms of the expansion of the welfare state, where the government now plays... Becoming the daddy.
Correct.
The second is corporate patriarchy, where the CEOs of some of the largest corporations are much more willing to pay for abortions for their female staffers than maternity leave.
So, you can see the way corporations have set themselves against the natural family.
And then the third, and this is where I was talking about, you know, some of the radical feminists, is trans-patriarchy, where you have particularly a group of committed men... Hang on, this is really interesting.
Yeah.
Did you come up with that, trans-patriarchy?
I did come up with that, yeah.
Not on the spot, but I did.
I wrote it last week, yeah.
What is trans-patriarchy?
So when I talk about trans-patriarchy, I'm talking about...
The deforming of patriarchy.
Well, it's a new patriarchy.
Correct.
In such a way where men who think that they're women are rewriting the rules on sex and gender.
And rewriting the rules on who's allowed to be a woman.
Correct.
Who is a woman.
What a pregnant person is.
All of these new terms come out of this deformed part of patriarchy.
And the saddest part is that, and this goes back to the feminists, Many of these women who have spent a lifetime saying that they're fighting against oppressive patriarchal systems and so on and so on and so forth, when they came up against people like Dr. Rachel Levine, born Richard Levine, they're completely silent.
Because they don't feel that they can question him when he says that he's a woman.
A real woman can't ask a question from a fake woman.
Correct.
So what I've said in the past is that these women, particularly the feminists, have finally found a group of men that they can submit to.
Because when Richard Levine speaks, they have to be quiet.
Oh my gosh, that's powerful.
Have you written this?
I have.
Where can they find it?
At Heritage?
Last week I have a piece in the Federalist on the notion that pro-family conservatives have to be pro-man.
You can't have pro-family policy if you don't have a pro-man culture.
But have you written explicitly on this trans patriarchy?
Yes, I introduced that idea in that piece.
While we're chatting, Eric, find that article at the Federalist.
Let's put it up on the screen.
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Dude, that's powerful.
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You said this has been going on for decades, this war against masculinity.
A two-part question.
When do you think it began?
And today, 2023, where is the epicenter?
Is it the high schools?
Is it the middle schools?
Is it the colleges?
Is it the me?
Is it TikTok?
If you had to identify the most pernicious source of this war, Where would you put it?
So first Genesis and then today's epicenter.
It's funny that you said it that way because as a Christian, as a believer, someone who approaches these issues with a biblical worldview, I would say it started in Genesis, right?
In terms of where you see the split between man and woman.
There's no question there, right?
There's two categories.
Where the certain inserts himself between the husband and wife.
And starts to, makes her question what it is that God has said about how He designed the world.
I think that's ultimately... And not only that, if you talk about the fruit of the tree, which is truth, right?
You want man or woman, deems themselves to be in control of truth and then the parallel, my gosh, another superb point, the parallel here is We have the hubris, the ego to say, no, chromosomes don't matter.
Correct.
I'm going to define What a woman or a man is.
Correct, correct.
So it goes back to the beginning.
And honestly, many of the issues that we're fighting right now are ones that I would call Genesis issues.
And these are issues we have to get right.
Right?
What is a man?
What is a woman?
What is a marriage?
What is life?
When does it begin?
All of these things, these Imago Dei issues, the fact that human beings are created in the image of God and bear His likeness, This is sort of the foundation.
Before you can craft good public policy, you need to have working definitions of things and the most important things.
So, I would take it back there, but as I said... But in the modern age, if you say, you know, it's been happening for decades, where does the modern assault begin?
I think, I mean, as many things do, people point back to the 60s, the sexual revolution, second wave feminism.
You know, I think that's where you start to see a turn, and particularly the relationships between men and women, where the feminists of old told women, again, that marriage is oppressive, family is oppressive.
To be the best woman you can be means to aspire to all the things that men have been doing.
So, you should have their sexual appetites.
You should dress the way they do.
You should talk the way they do.
You should think the way they do.
All while diminishing the importance of men in our society.
So, I'd say at least again since the 60s in terms of its modern iteration.
As it relates to where the most pernicious engine of this is right now.
It's always easy to say academia.
I would say honestly now K-12 is probably even worse than higher education.
Because our children are being fed a steady diet of this worldview every single day.
And even the most dedicated parents may have their children's attention for an hour and a half before school and maybe two hours after school.
If they're lucky.
If they're lucky.
And the older the child gets, the shorter the responses get.
What did you learn today in school?
Nothing.
How was your day?
Fine.
I can tell you're a father!
But the teachers have them for 10 hours a day.
And really, I think conservatives should start looking at what K through 12, like what that formal education process is, we should look at that as basic training.
Because when those children leave, they are ready to go and fight the left's war.
And that's why I'm such a big homeschool advocate.
That's why I'm such a big school choice advocate.
Because I think parents should see education, one, as equal parts scholarship and discipleship, right?
Academic mastery and moral formation.
And then when they do that, they'll ask the question, do I want that person to be shaping my child's values or that system to shape my child's values for the next 12 years?
And the significance of social media, Delano?
Huge.
Social media is huge.
I think there's a reason that the CCP pushes out one type of TikTok to the world and they reserve a different type of TikTok for their own kids.
By the way, TikTok being a Chinese company, let's be clear.
So there's, it's like the, you know, the 1960s and 70s when the Arab terrorists would make one announcement in English to the world about why they're fighting for justice.
And then another announcement in Arabic to their people saying, we're killing the Jews.
Social media is huge, obviously, particularly with the trans cult, the types of things that take place, the chat rooms, the ones that try to draw children in, and then when kids get in, like adults, sometimes you might get on Twitter for two minutes, you say, oh, I'm just going to check out a couple stories.
Two hours later, you're still scrolling and typing.
Social media is huge for changing perception, I think for driving social contagion, and also for messaging.
And I'm an old guy, so I just, I basically use Twitter and Facebook, but every Of the year there are 20 new platforms and obviously young people know what they all are.
So yeah, I think all of those things, corporations, social media, higher ed, K-12, and then obviously through the systems of our government are all driving at the same point.
And is there any way to look at all this drag queen story hour than looking at it as grooming children?
I mean, the left will say they just want to introduce kids to the idea of diversity.
I don't buy that.
You could just have different people, men and women, coming to read stories to kids.
You don't have to queer the sense of gender.
Correct, correct, correct.
So I mean, to me, the Drag Queen Story Hour stuff is a gateway drug to transgenderism.
So it definitely is intentional.
And the left tries to work those things, not just at the library, but you see how quickly it's spread from the libraries into the schools.
And now you have, I think about, for instance, some of the drag queen conservatives, some of whom I won't name, but they know who they are.
The people who said that Drag Queen Story Hour was a blessing of liberty, those people have no defense against now drag queens in schools.
And it's a shame that as a conservative, It's hard enough to fight the left in our forward advance, but now we have to watch our back, again, from the drag queen conservatives and the hyper-libertarians who are always trying to knife us and say, oh no, you guys are just trying to impose your religion and your moral views on the rest of the population.
I've already written down, like, six quotes from this man, and we're only, you know, 15 minutes into this interview.
The trans cult.
Drag queen Gloria is a gateway drug to transgenderism.
You can't beat biology.
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Play the Biden interview cut.
You got more questions.
I tell you, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black.
I'd say that's racism.
I don't know about you, but a white guy saying, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black, that's bigotry.
But hey, it's Biden who called southern segregationists fine gentlemen and said on the floor of the Congress, of the Senate actually, I don't want my kids growing up in a racial jungle.
Oh, sorry, I forgot the most important reason he should never have been allowed to run for president.
This is the man who tried to effect a quote, high-tech lynching against a black man because he dared to be a Supreme Court justice and a conservative.
Delana, I gotta play identity politics with you for a second because it's so important.
The left, I guess some of them well-meaning in the beginning, but in the last 60 years they basically destroyed the black family.
If you look at the rates of children out of wedlock, if you look at the crime rates, you look at the murder rates for young black men.
Give me some idea of, well, just help me out.
Is there any good news?
Are there people in the black community Who are making any headway in talking about traditional families and re-establishing.
You look at the movies, like Larry Elder's Uncle Tom 2, the sequel.
I told Larry on the show, the first four minutes, the pre-titled credit sequence of home movies from the 40s and 50s of black families.
Absolutely!
me away the prosperity the happiness the togetherness the extended families it's gone is there anything good happening absolutely I mean a lot of it is in is in churches and sort of those religious communities But there are a lot of black families that are thriving.
I certainly count my family as one of them.
I'm glad to say my parents have been married 41 years.
My best friends, all three, my three best friends, all of my parents have been married over 40 years.
They all still live in New York.
They all love being grandparents.
So there are many bright spots.
But there are a lot of challenges because, you know, 7 out of 10 black children are born to unmarried parents.
That number jumps up, I think, over 90%, close to 90% for black women who don't have any college education.
So, there are some challenges, you know, in our community, in the black community, and many of them, honestly, You're starting to see in other groups, and particularly among working class whites, that non-marital birth rate is starting to go up.
And among all whites, it's higher now than it was when the Moynihan Report came out in 1965.
So, I actually think the issue of marriage and family formation is one in which we can build a broad, sort of multi-ethnic coalition to really make some positive movement.
But again, part of it is going to be Fighting back against the forces who want to destroy biological sex.
Because you need those building blocks.
If you don't know, you know, who's a man and who's a woman... You can't build a house on sand.
Correct.
Let's go back to the Bible.
Correct.
Now, you come from a happy family.
You clearly are a very proud father.
This is the manhood hour.
Give us Delano Esquire's definition.
What is a man to you?
What does it mean to be a man?
Give us some definitions of the non-negotiable characteristics.
That's a great question.
So, one, Because this is 2023, so I have to say this.
It's to be born male, obviously, right?
But apart from that, to me, a man is responsible.
A man is honorable.
A man shows gratitude to his creator.
He acknowledges our power higher than himself.
A man at some point is going to want to have a woman by his side, so it's like every king is going to want a queen, because eventually he's going to want at least a prince or a princess in order for his family line to continue.
So those are some of the basic things for me, but I tend to think about some of those character traits.
Again, honor, respect, perseverance, and nowadays, the ability to do hard things without complaining and whining.
When I see, when I look across the pond and I look at royalty, literal princes, and all they do is complain and whine and moan.
It's one of those things that I find not just distasteful, but also unmanly.
So, there are some bedrock things, but again, if you acknowledge a power higher than yourself, if you acknowledge your Creator, you love God, you love your wife, you love your children, that's a good start right there.
I love it.
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This is perhaps the most fun question that I get to ask our guests on the Manhood Hour because I've had all kinds of answers.
From the classic, it was my father, or it was my drill sergeant, or it was a fictional character in a book I read as a kid.
What, for you, Delana, have been the most important influences in you understanding what it means to be a man?
Who was your role model?
I would definitely say my dad, and I would extend that out to my father and the men of his generation.
So the men that I saw in church, pastors, deacons, I respected them tremendously.
He's grown since I've gotten older.
Were you afraid of them as well?
There was a healthy fear.
There was a healthy fear.
You know, sometimes it would just take a look, and I would settle down.
But these were all men, obviously, married, dedicated to their wives.
They went out and they worked every day.
But one thing that they had that we've lost in subsequent generations, and these were all men who created with their hands.
Even the ones who were college educated, they all either were in trades, Carpentry, electricians, plumbers, masons, or even some of the ones who had white-collar jobs.
My dad still keeps a kitchen garden.
My parents live in Queens, New York, and 80% of the backyard is concrete, but the 20% that's not, he grows tomatoes and peppers and squash and thyme and rosemary.
And what I see in subsequent generations is a generation of young people, men and women, who are intent on destroying.
They use the language of deconstruct, dismantle, destroy.
And that is a clear sort of difference because we live in a point now where You have young men who are destroying buildings that their grandfathers built, whether in Portland or in Philadelphia.
So I learned a lot from them.
You know, I learned discipline.
I learned honor.
I learned my faith in God.
Um, and I just learned the importance of being there every single day.
There's not a day that I, a night that I went to bed that my dad wasn't in the house and I respect him and honor him for that.
It's funny you say that about the manual aspect of manlyhood, even if you're not a lumberjack in Alaska.
For me, apart from going to the range, which was only about once a month, the most seminal time in my life as a child growing up would be Saturday mornings.
Because my dad, we didn't have a lot of money.
He was a practicing architect, my mom was a university architectural lecturer.
But it was London, it was expensive, but we didn't do without.
But my dad never had a new car.
Never ever.
When I bought my first new car, age 46, I was like, Whoa, this is weird.
This is weird.
So what was Saturday morning?
Saturday morning was me as a kid helping my dad fix stuff on his car.
Wow.
You know, learning how to take the spark plugs out, check the gaps, sand it, clean it, put it back in, check the oil.
And that's, you may not be building a house, but at least you're doing something physical.
Right.
You're creating, you're not destroying.
So yeah, that's fabulous.
Okay, let's talk about the next generation as a father.
Talk to us about what you would put in as the minimum items in a syllabus.
What is it that young boys must know?
What is it young boys must be taught if we are to see that pendulum swing back?
Give us the bare minimum we have to impart to the next generation.
That's a great question.
I think one of the things... These are all from my wife.
They're all great questions.
This is Katie.
I think one of the things, honestly, is that, particularly if you're talking about the syllabus, young men need to know that it's okay if they don't learn or act or think in the same ways as their female counterparts.
And that's one of the big problems with modern education, and certainly public education, it's been feminized.
And I think a lot of - Everybody has to react the same way. - Correct, and I would venture to say, I haven't done research on this, that some significant number of the boys who are diagnosed with ADD or ADHD just need to get out and run and burn off some energy.
Right, so-- Rough house.
And rough house.
And a lot of times, mothers, and even sometimes nowadays, some fathers, they want to sand down those edges.
They want boys to be... I believe in having polite children, so my children do say, please and thank you, and my wife wants them to say, yes sir, no sir, because she grew up in Texas, but... Yes ma'am.
Right, yes, right, right.
But they also rough house, and I rough house with them, and my youngest, my oldest son, who's four, He'll come and ask me, dad, are we going to wrestle today?
And I said, okay, let's, let's wrestle.
Right.
Um, so, so part of it, so the first thing is, Can I just throw in something there?
Yes, yes, yes.
Because I had this discussion with my wife once.
We were talking about this issue about, you know, writing a book on what manhood is.
And I was kind of embarrassed because I don't want to talk about what a man is because men should know what they are.
It's kind of weird to kind of... It's like seeing inside the sausage factory.
You don't want to see how the sausage is made.
But after this long car ride with my wife, one of the things I hit upon in this extemporaneous discussion was one of the most important things a man can do for his son Yes.
Yes.
It can.
Right.
the appropriateness of violence.
Yes.
When it is appropriate and when it isn't.
And for me, rough housing, because rough housing can get out of hand.
It can.
Rough housing is where you test the boundaries.
Right.
Where you learn, you know, you don't punch your dad in the whatever.
Right, right, right.
But you can wrestle, you can tussle.
So I think one of the key things is, and that would explain such a lot about today when you see people literally going into stores and stealing and just walking out.
Correct.
The appropriateness of violence, the inappropriateness, and then finally the importance of our duty to use violence in the name of the vulnerable who are under attack.
You're speaking my language now, so I'll say this.
And I've said this to a couple people even recently.
I think one of the things that, again, the sort of trans cult has revealed is the degree to which the American man and the Western man has been ground down, sanded down, beaten down, and made to feel like he has to fit in a nice, neat, sort of pink box.
An unoffensive pink box.
Correct.
Correct.
I grew up in an age, even in the 90s, where if you're messing with people's children, you should, even as a young boy, there are certain girls who I say, you know what, I may not want to play certain games, because she has six brothers.
And I don't want to have to fight all six of them.
And in the same way, there is a degree to which, in which teachers and administrators should have a healthy fear that if they tamper or mess with or molest um someone's child that that father is going to come up to the school correct and rearrange some furniture but nobody fears that because so many guys are afraid of being you know offensive.
I've got to give great credit to my colleague and my friend Charlie Kirk who gave this interview at some i think it was like an evangelical event Where they brought up what you call the trans cult.
And the host said, raised this issue about the fake Leah Thomas.
The guy who was ranked, you know, 412 in swimming says he's a girl and then he crushes all these girls' dreams.
And Charlie got really incensed and he said, we're the fathers.
Why did they stand up in that stinking swimming pool and make a human wall in front of Thomas and say, we're not going to punch the lights out, but you do not get to swim in that pool with our daughters.
Correct.
Where are they?
They're at home.
I mean, this is the test, right?
Yeah.
No, the worst thing is if they're there in the stadium.
Right.
And they're just going along with it.
And sitting there.
But again, so many men have been told, and this started Um, this started with the war on masculinity in general, before it got to the war on biological sex.
But I think the average American man is much more afraid of his wife and his daughters than he is a potential carjacker or robber.
Because when... He does not want to get on the right... Because, Seb, you know, what a man, particularly a married man with kids, wants more than anything in his house is peace.
Happy wife, happy life.
I don't like the fact that my 13 year old is wearing Daisy Dukes with the word juicy across the bottom, but I don't feel like fighting with her.
Or her mom.
So I'm just gonna sit back, and when you do that consistently enough over the course of decades, you are in no position to now raise your voice in defense of your daughter, because if you don't stand up to someone you love, you can't stand up for them.
And I think that's where a lot of dads are.
So I hope, and again, I'm not asking for physical confrontations, Well, what I hope is that American men rediscover that sort of edge.
Metal.
They have to show their metal.
Correct.
And do it in such a way that the people who are actively trying to groom, tenderize, and pervert our children say, okay, let's take a step back because I don't want those types of problems.
Which is as it used to be.
As it used to be.
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Alright, dude, you better not finish the end of this year without writing a book, because I can tell there's so much you have to offer that is beyond just, you know, an hour on this radio show, although you're reaching out to three million people.
You need to put stuff on paper that That has some permanency because you really have some answers.
I just keep scribbling.
Just scribble, scribble, scribble stuff that's high value.
So let me be a downer here for a second because I do have Hungarian blood in my veins.
We're the biggest pessimists in the world, although I am an American.
Here's a clip that 20 years ago, maybe even 10 years ago, would have been deemed satire.
It would have been Monty Python or SNL when SNL was funny.
But this is not satire.
How can Democratic leaders be more effective in advocating for us trans people and our families and our lives and our opportunities?
I'm not being facetious when I say this, being seen with people like you.
I mean it.
I genuinely mean it.
People fear what they don't know.
They fear what they don't know.
And when people realize, individuals realize, oh, This is what they're telling me to be frightened of?
This is the problem?
This is... I mean, people change their minds.
Yeah, people change their minds.
You change your mind about whether it's oatmeal or bacon for breakfast, not whether you're a man or a boy or a girl.
So that's Dylan Mulvaney, and Mike Knowles did an amazing 15-minute video on the Dylan Mulvaney story.
I'm not making excuses for this person, but this was an actor, a male actor, who felt that he wasn't getting jobs as a male.
And under COVID, interestingly, he came up with a solution for not getting acting gigs as a man.
He said, I'm a woman.
Wow.
And we can't tell today, I can't tell whether this is trolling Or whether he really thinks he's a girl.
But this individual, in the space of a couple of months, Dylan, ended up interviewing the President of the United States.
Wow.
Okay?
Now, my question to you is, if that's a metric, somebody who is failing in his job, as a guy, says, I'm a girl.
And he gets to interview the President 90 days later, How big is the challenge for men and for women in terms of getting back to reality?
It's a huge challenge, and to put a fine point on it, and you hit on it, Dylan Mulvaney doesn't just say he's transitioning to be a woman.
He says that he's transitioning to be a girl.
Yes!
And he runs around in a cliche of a screaming, flapping girl, which is like a caricature.
Correct.
So it's insulting to women, it's insulting to girls, but it really does show the left's priorities.
And I want people to understand, It's helpful to think of politics as a business.
And not just because politicians raise a bunch of money, but businesses have products and they have expenses.
They incur expenses in order to sell you products.
The left and the Democratic Party today, its products are all things LGBT, abortion, and climate change.
Those are the things that they're passionate about.
Now, they'll pay expenses.
They'll talk racial justice.
They'll talk all the race stuff.
They'll pacify some, particularly on the state level, Some unions, they'll say, oh yeah, we're about labor and infrastructure and so on and so forth.
But those are the expenses they're willing to pay in order to get that.
Because that is what they are for.
Do I personally think that Joe Biden believes that Dylan Mulvaney is a woman?
Of course not.
Joe Biden is old enough to have eulogized a Klan member.
Right?
So this is not what the people who feed him talking points, the ones who went to the Tony liberal arts colleges on the East Coast, who all majored in, you know, feminist studies and queer theory.
They are the ones who believe this.
So it's a huge challenge because what what he's doing that what the president did there is send the signal about what types of People, what types of ideas that he wants to honor and amplify?
It's what Kurt Schlichter always says about, when I asked him, can we save the military as a former colonel?
Can we turn it around?
He said, yeah, easy.
Commander's intent.
If you're measuring wokeness in the military, if that's what your commander wants to measure, people will be woke.
If you have a leader who says this is cool, even if he doesn't believe it, they will be measuring that.
So the message from the top is what matters.
Last question from the bottom.
boss, the boss lady, because you know patriarchy, we're cool with boss ladies now and again.
Then I tell her to read St. Paul's letters about marriage.
Are you an optimist or a pessimist when it comes to the war on manhood?
I'm hopeful because I'm a Christian and And ultimately, we're in a bunch of battles, but the war's been won, at least from my perspective.
Oh, we've already won!
Correct.
The important war.
Correct.
So, I am hopeful.
I do see some positive signs.
I think people are starting to get tired of these things.
Eventually, you'll reach a point Where that gag reflex will kick in, and we'll start to spit up a lot of this nonsense.
I don't know what that point is, and honestly, Sebastian, I hope it's not... I hope it comes soon, because there are so many... Again, going back to the trans piece, there are going to be so many young people who, in another five to ten years, are going to look back and say, why did you let me do this to myself?
And people who have done things which are irreversible.
Correct.
Things that have sterilized them.
Correct.
And that's the sad truth, and that's why we have to keep fighting, fighting, fighting.
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