Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: President Trump: It's a cover-up!
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It's a rifle.
It's not a rifle, Greg.
Yes, it's a rifle.
It is a machine.
What does AR stand for?
It is an automatic rifle.
It's a machine.
No, that's not what it is.
Why are you laughing in my ear, Eric?
Just because Geraldo is a genius and knows about guns?
That is a new cut from the man who... Well, just mention Al Capone to him anytime and see the reaction on his face.
He actually said on live TV that AR, as in AR-15, stands for Automatic Rifle.
I mean, how dumb?
He's like, what, 74 or something?
75?
How do you live for almost 80 years in the media spotlight?
Oh, yeah, he's a Democrat.
I forgot.
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Right, we're super excited.
We bumped into her yesterday on the floor of this show, Lauren Bobert, the woman who, you know, what did she do?
Why did she become a congresswoman?
Because she challenged the man, Beto!
Robert O'Rourke, who said, we are coming after your AR-15s.
Hell yes, he said.
And she said no.
She was running a restaurant where the waitresses, the pistol-packing mamas, all carried a weapon on their side in a little belt holster.
And she said, yeah, that's American history.
Rugged individualism.
It's how the nation was founded, the pioneer spirit.
And let's be very clear.
I've said it before and I'll say it again and I please, I'd like to enlist you as what the military calls a force multiplier on this message, given where we are today.
Civil rights.
The Bill of Rights.
There's one that's different.
Remember that?
If you're of a certain generation, there's that little square of images from Sesame Street.
If you grew up on Sesame Street before they went all woke.
One of these kids is doing his own thing.
Well, the same applies to the Bill of Rights.
One of these civil rights is different.
It's special.
One of them is about what?
It's about the ultimate guarantee of your freedom.
It is the civil right that makes all the others possible.
It's not freedom of speech.
It's not freedom of assembly.
It's not, you know, protection from undue search and seizure.
No, it's number two.
Because you don't have any of the others.
None of them exist.
Unless you have the right to remove a tyrannical government by force.
I know some people are going, hey, that's a little extreme, isn't it, Gorka?
Well, if that's extreme, well, guess what?
The Founding Fathers were extremists.
It has nothing to do with white tails, with hunting season.
In fact, and you know, just bear with me, think it through, if you will, It has nothing to do with self-defense.
It's not about, you know, stopping a carjacker or the person who breaks into your home late at night to steal your laptop and look for prescription drugs.
No.
It's about you being the ultimate defender of your liberties.
We are a nation born in revolution.
The only nation founded on the principle of individual liberty and freedom.
But we don't expect the government to be the guarantor.
In fact, we know that the government can take that away from you.
But if they're afraid of you, if they understand that there are literally tens, scores of millions of Americans who are prepared to die on a pile of brass for their liberties and their children's liberties, Your government should be afraid of you.
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Thank you.
He's with us.
You heard the president.
He said, Sebastian, he's one of us.
Thank you, Mr. President.
So kind.
What a great, great liner.
And the music.
Alex, nicely done that you chose Charlie's Angels to come into this segment because Charlie's Angels were cool, but there were three of them, right?
But what if you had one Charlie's Angel who had all the superpowers of all three of them?
Pistol Packing Mama loves America and She's a patriot in the swamp, fighting for her constituents.
Well, and she's on our show.
She's Lauren Bobert.
Lauren, thank you for coming back to America First.
Thank you, thank you.
It's so great to be here with you.
And I do think we have a couple of more angels.
You know, we have Mary Miller from Illinois.
Yes!
We have Ana Paulina Luna from Florida.
You need to have a poster.
You need to have the new Charlie's Angels.
Will you do that?
We do.
We need to do that.
So she's so cool.
I bumped into her like three times yesterday.
I'm back in my room.
It's like 12.30 and she's sending me photographs.
We did a little selfie video and one of your staff members photographed us.
She knows how to work the room for the causes, which is America.
Before we talk about guns, which is, you know, the reason for your success, standing up to that.
I can't say it on radio.
Standing up to a beater, Robert.
Robert Francis.
But let's talk about, we had this chat yesterday offline.
People need to understand, and you're talking to three million people across the country, what you and your colleagues achieved in those four days.
I think, I said it to you earlier today, you have changed the future of Congress, I think for probably a decade.
Will you explain why those four days were so important for all Americans, not just your constituents?
Yes, so I believe that the changes that we made will outlast all of us in Congress.
I sure hope that they do.
But this was important because everyone talks about changing Congress and the way things operate there.
No one likes the way Congress does business.
No one can run an effective business the way Congress operates on a daily basis.
But there's always talk and no action.
We had a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to make these fundamental changes, and that's exactly what we did.
We got single-subject legislation.
We have amendments that have to be germane to the bill.
So no more of this con game where you title a bill one way and you load it with a bunch of junk and have no idea what it's even in there for, like the infrastructure bill.
Right, well, I'm going to get to that.
I'm building up to it.
So, we have the infrastructure bill.
1.2 trillion dollars.
Less than 10% of it went towards anything infrastructure related.
We now have 72 hours to actually read the bill before we vote on it.
No more of this.
You have to pass it to find out what's in it.
And we will have regular order, allowing 12 individual appropriations bills.
No more omnibus bills.
Which is massive and this puts the Senate in check as well.
We don't have the Senate right now.
Democrats have the Senate and we just put them in check because they have to send us single subject legislation with amendments that are germane and they cannot send us an omnibus bill like that 1.7 trillion dollar omnibus bill that we saw in December where they allowed Nancy Pelosi to rule with a dead hand until September.
Now, of all of the things that you listed, I did a whole segment on the Newsmax show about the Big Six, which one for you was most personal?
Which one are you most proud of?
Oh gosh, I really think the 12 individual appropriations is the thing I'm most proud of, but of course we have the motion to vacate in there that gives us a check and a balance on the speaker.
If Kevin doesn't keep his promises.
Correct, correct.
Which is as it should be.
And I think he will though.
I think he's a stronger speaker because of what we did.
Because of what you did.
Absolutely.
I think so.
And we're all rooting for his success.
Yes.
So we have that motion to vacate.
That's our check and our balance.
You can't demand more responsibility and less accountability like Nancy Pelosi did.
Can't follow her precedence.
But also we have a China task force committee that has been set up.
We have a select committee to investigate the weaponization of the federal government.
This is massive.
And it's going to bring so much truth to the corruption and the weaponization of the federal government on the American people.
It's so weird.
I'm doing radio here from Shotshow and for some reason people are standing around my thing filming it.
I wonder why?
What is happening?
Is it because of me?
No, no, of course not.
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All right, so, last question to you.
How worried are you?
About the state of the Second Amendment in the current political climate.
Oh, I'm absolutely terrified and that's why I'm here.
I saw our Second Amendment rights being infringed inch by inch and you know that's how you ultimately take it over.
That's how you get anyone to cede ground is you get to them as close as you possibly can and then they back up a little bit.
And then you're closer than you ever were.
I saw that in Colorado, starting in 2013, with the high-capacity magazine bans.
And I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, I don't know much about the Constitution, but I'm pretty sure that's not allowed.
That doesn't... They start with one thing.
They say it's for safety or kids, but at the end of the day, you've got to remember what Robert Francis said.
Hell yes, we're coming after your ARs.
Which, of course, HERALDO NO stands for automatic rifle.
We've been talking to...
He's 74 years old.
I mean, he doesn't know what it stands for.
Assault rifle.
I just want to pound these.
You're going to pound the idiots into the sand until they surrender.
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There's some crazy, crazy...
But obviously it's a cover-up.
It's a very sad situation.
You know, he was coming to me.
We have a much different situation.
I was president.
I have the right to declassify as president.
It would be nice if all the investigations could stop, because we're like investigation central in this country.
No country in the world has anything like this.
You want to make America great again.
And this nonsense, it's just, you know, it never ends.
But it's a problem.
There's no question about it.
He's got—and now they're saying there are many other places that he stored documents.
And it brings Obama into the picture, as you can imagine, because the documents are really Obama documents.
Well, put it this way, we're going to dig into that story, but there are 9-11 truthers on the Homeland Security Committee.
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It's super easy.
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Welcome back, dear friends, because... You know me, right?
We've been friends now for four years.
We started down this path January 1st, four years ago.
And you know me, I'm a simple chap.
I'm very uncomplicated.
I like good food, the love of my wife, my darling children, my two dogs.
Oh man, don't be a burglar in our house.
Man, did they do their duty just around Christmas time.
And I like my cigars and my guns.
And I can talk about those things for three hours, four hours, five, six hours a day, at least on radio.
Especially the gun thing, because as the child of A man who was imprisoned by communists.
I take the Second Amendment seriously.
But I know not everybody of the three million listening have exactly the same commitment to that.
So you need a little respite.
You need a little light relief from our Second Amendment bonanza.
And who better?
Although she's a gondala as well!
Let's talk to our lovely West Coast warrior princess, Jennifer Horne.
You should be with us here in Vegas.
Thank you.
As soon as I saw you were there this week, I thought to myself, how did I let this go goodbye?
Because I remember last year when you were there, I thought to myself, I need to go to the Shot Show.
I've never been.
Yes!
I would love it.
I could broadcast my part of the Morning Answer when I moved out of Los Angeles from there.
And I feel like I would love it.
I mean, he's had such a hard time.
You could give Grant a couple of days off, right?
Yeah, or, I mean, hello, if anybody wants to go to the shop show, it's Grant, we can go together.
Where is he?
Yeah, so I... Why isn't he here?
What's going on?
Please remind me, because I really do want to set it up.
I think that would be a lot of fun.
I know I would love it.
And you guys could show me so many... Could you imagine?
Because I just come here with Jeff and I meet up with all my old buddies, you know, it takes a year and we meet up.
And I was thinking as I was going back to my room yesterday, what if we had like a posse?
What if we brought a posse of, you know, good guys and gals?
Could you imagine the fun we could have on the strip?
I'm telling you, let's do that.
It would be so much fun.
And you know, in my 20s I was known as the Queen of Las Vegas.
So, you know, I could go back.
I need the details.
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Jennifer, you've got like a bonanza of stories we can talk about.
Oh yeah.
There's somebody who calls herself a trained Marxist, the front person for BLM, Patrice Collors.
We've used that clip many, many times on the show.
Tell us about the latest news out of California regarding the Collors family.
Yeah, this was kind of interesting.
So over the weekend, the LAPD comes out and in really kind of a very forthcoming, transparent way, they have their PIO come out and release footage because someone died in their custody.
Not during the arrest, but afterwards in an area hospital.
And so they came out with the body cam footage right away.
I started looking at it.
There was like 45 minutes of footage and what you see is a man, happens to be black, walking recklessly down the street.
Motorcycle cop was called out because apparently someone there said that he was either trying to carjack him or was causing accidents.
He was all over the side of the street.
Well, he looked like he was drunk or what?
Out of his mind.
Weaving around?
He looked to me like he was on drugs.
That's what it looked like.
And so the police officer comes up.
You see him have this altercation with the man and very kind.
He's like, please, sir, your name is Keenan.
Okay, please put your hands up.
Stand against the wall.
He wouldn't do it.
He sits down on his butt.
He's all over.
Then he stands up.
It's like a George Floyd kind of.
Oh, absolutely.
Running down the middle of the street.
Finally, they call for backup.
The guy would not comply.
He would not turn over.
He would not take the arrest.
Finally, after being what I think was very, very patient, about 40 minutes of this, they use the taser and deploy the taser on him.
How long?
How long?
About it was like a 45 they gave him about 45 minutes.
I'm sorry I'm gonna make a comment here, and I love our Leo's but Unless the guys actually got a sniper rifle you know armed as you know aimed at somebody's head There's no scenario where it should take 40 minutes to incapacitate somebody who needs to be incapacitated That's just that that is when politics Has made the job of the Leo's too difficult.
It's like New York where you're not allowed to use the upper torso and arm locks to restrain people.
That's when it gets political.
Sorry, I had to interject that.
But you're right.
It's the same thing that we talked about on the morning answer.
It just takes too long.
So he gets tased.
I guess something happens.
He goes to a hospital.
He ends up dying in the hospital of a cardiac arrest.
Now, we don't know if there were drugs in the system, if there's alcohol in the system.
Well, it turns out he's the cousin of Patrisse Cullors, the co-founder of Black Lives Matter.
She releases this very nice, handsome-looking gentleman who is the same guy who looked crazy walking down the street and was a teacher.
In Washington, D.C.
He's a dad, and of course, they frame this as another black man killed by police in, or dying at the hands of, in police custody.
And so this has been a big blow-up.
You've had Karen Bass, our mayor, come out and say there needs to be a swift investigation.
Adam Schiff, my congressman, who I know we just love so much, comes out and says this was obviously a travesty and the LAPD has to explain this.
Well, they don't even know the details.
They don't know if this guy was carjacking people, if he had drugs in his system.
All they know It's what any person with a brain cell saw on the video, which is the police tripping over themselves to be kind to this guy, to try to just get him to take the arrest and put the handcuffs on.
And he kept fighting them.
And he was incoherent and he was saying crazy things.
And now you've got Black Lives Matter all over pressuring Again, the police and they want to get this to now prevent the LAPD from going on regular traffic stops That's their latest traffic stop.
The police are just there.
They're gonna kill or harm people and they want I guess a social worker or maybe nobody to show up.
So just more chaos for Los Angeles All right, let's do that the next law enforcement already story When I saw this a couple of days ago, I was like, really?
I mean, how low can you go?
Will you tell our listeners across the country, who may have missed what's going on, the Thin Blue Line scandal?
Sort of a related story actually.
So just a couple of weeks ago, I guess someone was offended by the fact that one of the LAPD stations had a thin blue line flag sitting in the lobby.
And the police chief, who I hate to say this because you know how I feel about law enforcement, I love and support Law enforcement, I think they do the best they can 99.9% of the time, but their leadership matters.
And the police chief is Michael Moore and he doesn't seem to be a strong leader.
He doesn't seem to be an advocate.
He fired people who wouldn't get the vaccine on his force.
Now he put out an edict that the thin blue line flag can no longer be hung in police stations in public areas or in public view.
They can still have it in their car, in their locker, in their public or in their private workspace.
But not where other people can see it.
And they've done the same thing with the transgender rainbow flags, right?
Absolutely right, I'm sure.
Just moving those things away.
And what's really, I guess what really got my gander a little bit more than just a story.
I'm going to interrupt you one more time.
In case there's somebody who's been under a rock for the last 40 years, the thin blue line is just a recognition of what police do for us and those who have fallen.
That's all it is.
Well, that's what I think.
That's what you think.
But Michael Moore decided to say that it's unfortunate that this flag has been linked to white supremacy and conservative extremist groups and somehow making it seem like it's offensive because it's related to people who, you know, the January 6th element, I guess, is what he was getting at.
I think it's ridiculous for the police chief of Los Angeles to not support their officers, the display of the thin blue line flag, which does just that, and to agree with this ridiculous narrative that somehow all these bad extremists are somehow co-opting that thin blue line flag.
It is absolutely ridiculous.
And I asked on my program for police officers to call in anonymously and tell me if they've lost faith.
And what was the response?
And everybody that called in said that especially the officers over 35 are looking how to retire or get out of Los Angeles to get out of the LAPD.
And what was the response?
Was there any public response to this outrageous decision?
Nobody would dare utter anybody.
Nobody would say boo about this except conservative media.
I haven't heard anybody but talk radio and our station talking about this because I think most people would be afraid to stand up and defend that flag.
I don't even know if the officers at this point feel confident enough to do that.
And what was the common thread from the callers?
You got the anonymous Leos to call in.
What was the common thread?
The common thread is that everybody feels like they've been left behind by Chief Moore, that he is a puppet, essentially, for the mayor, who at that time was originally Eric Garcetti, now Karen Bass, and that Karen Bass has a huge hold over the police.
And we all know, as much as she likes to say she's pro-law enforcement, This is someone who has publicly been on record and with her legislation that she supported been anti-police and pro-defunding the police.
Unbelievable.
You can't do your job as a cop if you don't have political top cover and people who let you do your job.
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Oh, by the way, don't go anywhere, dear callers, especially we'll start with Stephen.
He's got an interesting question, but we have to have our guests Because we need to check in with the West Coast.
We'll talk about a specific story from your neck of the woods, but I've got to get your take about the ever, ever larger Biden files scandal.
Here we have a great man, first ever, blows my mind, first ever Green Beret in Congress, a man I campaigned for way back when, Mike Waltz, who sets the record straight on CNN, and it is a joy to behold.
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An FBI raid.
Isn't that a little premature?
I mean, the FBI didn't go in to execute that search warrant with President Trump until 16 months.
They've been waiting for him to turn over the documents.
It's only been two months for Biden so far.
So why would you want the FBI to go in?
Well, your math is interesting there, Alison, because by my math, it's been five years that these documents have been sitting there, and so if, you know, the White House's rendition of kind of events here is correct, that we've done the right thing, we've told the National Archives, we've told the Department of Justice, why didn't they tell and do the right thing five years ago, four years ago, three years ago, and then once they were... Well, I mean, they say they just... I hear you, but they say they just discovered it.
Well, so that's my other question, you know, on top of the list that you guys have rightly asked, is why were $1,000-an-hour, high-priced attorneys suddenly on November 3rd starting to look through these documents, and since then, the University of Pennsylvania said, we didn't ask them to clear out that office.
Now, Jen, Mike Waltz is one of the least sneak-eating Green Berets I know.
He's so mild-mannered, lovely chap, but man, wasn't that joyous?
No, it's not been too much.
It's been five years, Miss CNN!
Perfect.
And I don't know if you want to come over and hang out.
We'll make some nice tea or something.
I've got my lawyers coming over to clean up my garage this weekend.
My legal team will be there too.
But doesn't everybody use their lawyers to clean out their garage?
Which, by the way, belongs to your drug addict son.
That's right.
You know, God junk is so five years ago.
Now it's all about using your lawyers for the garage clean out.
Here's the big question.
I need to sanity check from you.
Because we began this, when the first story dropped about the secret files in the closet of the Biden think tank, Jeff said, and you know, he's got a very good, keen political sense, said, this is the Democrats dropping the story now, so they have story control, and two years from now, it'll be old news and Biden will be safe.
Then you have three more drops in 48 hours, and it looks like the Dems are throwing him under the bus.
So what is your Wonder Woman Spidey sense Yes.
I think they're trying to throw him under the bus.
I think the things were going too well, or at least that's what they thought after the midterms.
And I think they actually thought Biden was going to run again.
And I think he probably was thinking he was going to run again.
And I don't think anybody wanted to see that.
CNN today had a story out about how they were peddling influence, both the brother Biden and Hunter Biden, both Frank and Hunter were selling influence.
And CNN was reporting this.
They said that in, I don't know if you had a chance to see it, but that Frank was working for this health technology company and was saying that he had the bully pulpit with his brother, Joey.
And that's CNN now talking about peddling influence.
What bothers me is not that he's got the documents stashed everywhere.
What bothers me is that he's a known seller of information, and he's a known seller of his position.
And what has he done to threaten our national security?
That's number one.
And I would also ask Allison Camarata, if I were Representative Walz, they keep saying that Biden's team was cooperating, which is why they didn't need the FBI, and that's why they didn't need to get people involved.
And it's not that bad, because people were cooperating, the lawyers were cooperating.
President Trump, if you remember, had the people from the National Archives at Mar-a-Lago not once but twice.
They're the ones who instructed him to lock away certain documents until they could figure out the transfer.
And then the FBI came in and wouldn't even allow his lawyers inside.
So there's not only the national security threat, but just the hypocrisy that is so rich for this.
And I think it is all to get Biden not to run again.
All right, let's go back to your neck of the woods.
Tell us the last crazy idea coming out of California, Jen.
So you know Gavin Newsom wants to give people living in California who are black reparations.
He wants to give any black person in California $350,000 and any black-run business $250,000 because they face, you know, the racial inequity that they say is harder to have a black-run business than a white-run business.
Well now San Francisco has like taken it and hit the accelerator.
So they've got a new panel It's like African-American Reparations Committee.
It's ARAC, which I'd like to call a racket, because they want to give any black person living in San Francisco for more than 13 years, are you ready for this?
Yes.
Five million dollars.
And not just five million dollars.
Does anybody object?
Does anybody say, who's five million dollars is that?
Is this coming out of Gavin's French laundry account?
The San Francisco budget, the city, is $14 billion.
This would cost well over $50 billion to just do this program.
So $5 million to every black resident.
Even if you're in jail, you still get this money if you've lived there for over 13 years and identify in government documents as African American.
Then they'll get rid of all your debt.
They'll wipe it clean.
Whether it's credit cards, house debt, student debt, it's gone.
But wait, there's more.
I feel like I'm doing a ShamWow infomercial for you.
Wait, there's more?
There's more?
But wait, there's more.
Not only will you get $5 million a year and you'll be debt-free, but they want to give you the difference between what you make and $97,000 a year, which is the median income of San Francisco.
For 235 years, they want to make this a law.
You know, as a talk radio host, it's not good to be left speechless, but sometimes one is left speechless.
How about invest it in the community?
Instead of giving it to four people, invest it in the community so that the schools are better, the roads are better, the cities are safer, instead of just handing five million dollars to a group of ten.
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Last question, what are we going to hit first when we're in Vegas with our posse next year?
Oh, we're gonna go on that big wheel.
Did you see the wheel?
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At the link?
We're going on that.
I'm like locked in the convention center like 25 hours a day.
It's okay, we'll be in the convention center and then right about sunset we'll run out, you can do your cigar and we're gonna go on the high roller which is that, it's like the London Eye.
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The most fun thing, I'm telling you.
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Great to see you again.
Great to see you again, Sebastian.
And, you know, we have your gun in our store, in the gun case.
And you're never going to sell it, right?
No, I'm not going to sell it.
I don't want to see it on eBay or gunbroker.com, OK?
I don't think you'll ever see it there.
All right.
So the last thing we did is you invited me to this amazing event, the Rod of Iron Freedom Festival.
At your facility.
So you have this commercial facility.
It was just, it was a celebration of freedom.
The Second Amendment as a guarantee of our liberties.
Thousands of people.
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It was just incredible.
Will you tell our listeners?
Why you go the extra mile?
Because I have guests on the show who are gun guys, have YouTube channels, and before they come on the show, they say, hey, I'll come on the show, but let's not talk politics.
And you don't have any of that problem.
You understand that if you are into the Second Amendment, by dint of being into it, you have to be in politics.
Why do you think so few people have your attitude to getting out there and leaning into it?
Well, you know, Sebastian, freedom is not free.
You know, our men and women who are in the military, they've been shedding their blood and they've been dying for freedom all over the world, for even non-Americans.
You know, my father was in the North Korean prison camp, and it was the U.S.
Armed Forces that liberated him.
And it was because of their blood, sweat, and tears which they shed to push up to the Hongnam prison.
That's the reason why my father was able to get out of the concentration camp there in North Korea under the communist regime of Kim Il-sung.
So MacArthur, 1950.
Yeah, yeah.
In the Incheon Landing and the push up to the Yellow River.
Did he inculcate that into you?
Oh yeah.
Was it obvious?
Did he talk about it?
Or did you just understand the price of liberty?
Well, after he got out, he spent his entire ministry fighting communism all over the world.
So he led a worldwide anti-communist movement called VOC.
And that was active all throughout Asia, in Japan, in Korea, all through South America.
And in the US.
So I'm going to ask you a question.
We don't rehearse any of this.
You can tell in front of all of our listeners.
We don't send you talking points.
Your team doesn't get to review what we're going to ask you.
This is live radio.
What is your message?
Because a lot of people listen to this show in the industry.
What is your message to your fellow colleagues, competitors, manufacturers in the industry who think they can do what they do without taking a political stance on 2A?
Well, we have to remember that the reason why we have 2A in America is because our founding fathers here in America, George Washington and that crew, they took up arms against the most powerful government and military in the world, which is the British Empire, and they said, OK, we're not with you anymore.
We are now independent.
We want to be free.
We want to be free.
And so that's the only reason why we have our liberty, is because of arms.
And if we ever lose our arms, we will lose our liberty.
Because that's the last guarantee.
Yes.
And if you look at history, governments always overreach and always take more and more power.
And the first thing they do when they get dictatorial, what's the first thing?
They take away the guns.
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He said the PPK is cool gun, James Bond, but it's too heavy, too weak.
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That's what I was carrying when we met here three years ago.
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Then they got the Desert Eagle brand.
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Tell us what the state of the industry is today, and by the way, KAHR.com, what's the state of the market, the industry?
Well, right now the industry is coming off a boom period, so it's starting to slow down.
A bit saturated?
Yeah, a bit saturated, but we've been able to develop a very specific product niche, and our products are actually doing Very well still.
So we still have a 15-month backlog, but we're seeing softness in the other big companies.
And we've got to mention, one of the things that you have that just sells out like that is anything that's Trump-related, MAGA.
We did the custom 1911s with you.
300 sold in 48 hours.
People want to have that cool stuff.
Yeah, absolutely.
And people, they love you, Sebastian!
Your podcast is blowing up all over the country and the message which you're sending about liberty, it's contagious.
Alright, I'm going to plant it right now in front of 3 million witnesses.
We need a MAGA Desert Eagle.
We'll have to talk to you about that, alright?
We'll have to plot.
Alright.
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Line 1, Mike in Detroit.
Mike, welcome to America First!
Well, thank you, Dr. Corker.
You have really great guests.
I mean, you know.
Thank you!
Yeah, they are.
You know, I'm looking at this kind of media fest when it comes to the classified document issue, you know.
And, you know, the Democrats will exploit anything, you know, and everything.
And, you know, this pops up.
And it seems to me this could be the perfect way for them to get rid of Biden.
You know, he would suffer no criminal consequences and possibly end these investigations because this issue here with the documents is nothing compared to this.
Yes.
heavy heavy weight of the criminal activity that they've got from all over the world.
This is a really good point.
This is the least damaging way to get rid of him because if it was actually a criminal investigation of him, his brothers, his son, that would be a stain on the Democrats that would be much harder to remove than, "Oh, whoopsie, he mishandled some top secret classified information." But it's okay.
It was next to his Corvette.
That could be what's happening.
We shall see.
Thank you, Mike.
Line 2, Stephen, Cherry Hill, New Jersey.
Are you on a speakerphone?
You can't go on national radio on a speakerphone or at the end of a submarine.
I mean, it sounds like you're in a tin can.
Stephen, are you there?
Is this any better?
Much better.
Yeah, that's how you go on a radio show.
Go ahead.
What's your question?
What's your comment?
Well, first of all, you know, it's a shame because Joe did ask his son Biden to clean out the car.
Hunter just forgot.
That's part of the issue.
Hey, I wanted to ask you what you thought and, I mean, I'm really glad you had Congresswoman Boebert on and that the 20 did what they did.
That was single-issue legislation.
That's all really good.
That's very tactical.
There's still a big trust gap between the American people and Congress.
Do you think they'll have any appetite to sort of say, hey, listen, any laws that Congress passes for the rest of the people, we can't be exempted.
Because that's still sort of, you know, there's a lot of things that, you know, insider trading, exempting staff from Obamacare.
It's just squirrelly.
Any appetite you think to take care of that?
I don't know what you mean, because I don't think the Freedom Caucus or the likes of Boebert or Gates or Andy Biggs, I don't think any of them have suffered from the American people losing faith in them.
I mean, they proved themselves to the American people over those four days.
So, I mean, you're talking, I presume, Stephen, you're talking about the rest of the GOP, no?
Yes, yes.
They don't want to fix anything, Stephen.
You know that.
I mean, you heard what Dan Crenshaw said, what those swamp creatures said, calling their fellow Republicans terrorists.
What do you do with terrorists?
He should know.
He's a former SEAL.
We kill terrorists.
And then we have a member of Congress say that we should kill those.
Who dare to disagree with the swamp creatures?
I mean, no, look, your question is a good question, but it's kind of, you know, it's not the Freedom Caucus did what had to be done.
The GOP doesn't want to fix themselves.
That's the real challenge we face.
But now, Thanks to those 20, we've got a tight leash on McCarthy, a tight leash on the Swamp.
Thank you, Matt.
Thank you, Stephen.
I can't believe we lost Zsuzsa.
We had a Hungarian from Toronto on the line.
Call back, Zsuzsa.
In the meantime, let's go to North Carolina.
Matt, line three.
Yes, sir.
Dr. Gorka.
Hey, how's it going?
Okay.
I was quite entertained.
I got two quick points, if you will.
Go ahead.
Quite entertained by that caller, Dave, who said, Oh yeah, the crazy liberal we dealt with in the break, yeah.
It's weird, they're always obsessed with sex and with sexual organs and they never seem to come up with anything new.
They like to insult my mother, which is weird because she's dead and has been dead for almost 20 years.
But look, they're just a bunch of perverts, man.
Well, I understand that.
Can I make my other quick point?
Yeah.
If you don't mind.
Yeah.
Do you think all these investigations into Biden, whatever is upcoming, that's serious, blah, blah, blah here, is it going to do anything more to waste $50 million of our taxpayers' money?
You mean we shouldn't investigate him because it just costs too much?
No, sir.
I said we should investigate him, but do you think it'll go anywhere?
We talked about this a year or two ago.
Yeah, this is a good point.
I've kind of made a decision here.
I was listening to somebody else.
I don't know who it was, whether it was Dan Bongino or Mark Levin or, you know, one of my Salem colleagues like Dennis.
So here's where I'm at.
I kind of made peace with this issue because for me the situation is if we don't have the DOJ, if we don't have control then of the judicial system and the FBI We still need to get the message out.
We still need to get the information out to as many people as possible.
That's my argument.
So, there will be ramifications that we can't predict, but we need to have millions and millions of people know the truth.
And I think that is the best we can do for the next two years.
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You know, Hunter, or excuse me, Biden and with their lawyers, his personal lawyers cleaning out the garage.
Right.
My comment, my comment is, how do we know?
I feel that they could just simply cherry pick whatever they want to produce and show us.
And in my, in the back of my mind, I am wondering what documents they are still hiding.
I mean, if he has his personal lawyers going through his garage, What are they not showing us?
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We'll never know because there was nobody there.
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There was nobody from the National Archives to, you know, log in what was found.
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It's a great point.
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Greg, you're up.
Yeah, I was listening in all week last week about the documents.
I know we have to talk about things and it's fun to talk about whatever comes up.
Alright, so what are we missing?
Come on, tell me Greg.
The big picture.
The big picture is it doesn't matter about the documents.
It doesn't matter about Biden.
Why would you get rid of Biden?
Why would anybody want to get rid of Biden?
He's done everything that the radical left has wanted him to do for two years.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I think they're worried that he, in 2024, he's not going to be the guy they need.
That's the logic.
It's very simple, Greg.
They're worried that a guy who is now being made fun of by left-wing late-night TV hosts, even they've jumped the ship, they can't win.
That's what they're thinking, Greg.
That's their logic, if I had to guess.
No, they can win because they won the last time when they didn't really win.
We know who really won last time.
Yeah, but that's not true everywhere.
That's not true, Greg.
People have got to stop spinning this stuff, right?
There was election fraud in the big cities in 2020.
You look at Atlanta, Philly, Chicago.
Watch 2000 Mules.
But hey, guess what?
Who's the governor of Virginia?
Did they steal Virginia?
No, we won in Virginia, so stop it with the they're just gonna steal it again rubbish, okay?
It's up to us to stop them from stealing it as we did in my Commonwealth where I live.
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Yeah, I have to say that I think you said it first when we were recording one of our episodes.
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It's just, and then I make notes.
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It's a good life, yeah.
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So for those who have been under a rock for the last couple of years, who've missed our first, I don't know, we must be on what?
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So who are you?
And what is your journey in life that has brought you to where you are today, Mr. Coles?
You know, it's funny.
We were talking actually on the last episode or the most recent episode that we did of Making Movies Great Again, the last one recorded anyway, about how when I was a kid, much like in Back to the Future, Marty's dad was bullied.
I was bullied as a kid and I always had like a nerdy sidekick and I was kind of like this lone wolf guy.
And I would get picked on and so I would see other kids being picked on in the schoolyard and I would try to emulate my favorite heroes from movies, you know, and I would go up to the bullies with corny lines like, pick on someone your own size, you know, stuff like that.
And I'd always try to fight these bullies and stuff.
And that was my, that was like my mentality as a kid.
Like, uh, if I don't like getting picked on, I don't want to see some other kid get picked on.
So I was always going to try to be the hero and defend them.
And I think that that mentality, that sort of, maybe you'd call it like a complex, right?
Like a superhero complex or something?
No, no, no, hang on.
Dude, dude, you're talking to my soul.
It has nothing to do with being a superhero.
If you want to piss me off, the only thing that will piss me off the most is witnessing injustice.
That's all you're talking about.
That's absolutely right.
But I think that there is a cultural thing to it.
Like, when I was growing up in the 80s, that was the cultural norm, is that you go and you protect somebody who's being hurt, right?
You go and you stop an injustice from happening.
And that was a cultural value that we had.
And so for me, that was natural.
That was obvious.
That was an easy choice to make every time.
Because I was a little bit maybe more brave or stupid or whatever than some of the other kids.
So I'd go and I'd want to fight the bully.
And that has kind of like, I don't know, I guess it's culminated in this, like doing the work that we do, right?
You look at what's happening in Washington D.C.
or you look at what's happening in the world and you say, okay, Democrats are saying that, you know, women are being victimized and black people are being victimized and gay people are being victimized.
And you look at the country and you go, are they though?
Are they really?
And then they use that as an excuse to victimize other people, or to steal money, or to be corrupt, or whatever it is they want to do.
They're like, we've got to save the environment, so we have to pay $900 trillion in order to do that.
And then, of course, they just give it to their donors, and they're just ripping off the American people.
And I look at that kind of stuff, and I say, you know what?
You're ruining the quality of life of people.
You are making the country worse.
You're ruining the ethics of the country.
You're trying to validate pedophilia with these drag queen story hour BS crap.
You're trying to desensitize kids into this like – kind of in the same way.
I think that it's turned into that.
I love that, and we need far more of that.
And, you know, for those who think otherwise, let me be very explicit here.
We don't rehearse anything on this show, whether it's Chris, whether it's, you know, President Trump when he comes on the show, whether it's, you know, the callers.
There are famous people out there.
I'm not going to drop the dime on them right now.
There are very famous conservative radio hosts who actually have fake callers.
They tell somebody to call in and ask a certain question.
We don't do any of that stuff.
I can vouch for that.
I've actually asked you, what are we covering today?
And you're like, just stuff.
Yeah, right.
Because when you've got really good guests, you don't need to rehearse anything.
We're not doing King Lear.
This isn't Troilus and Cressida, OK?
We don't need a script.
This is a life.
And when it comes to radio, you can tell when it's faked.
You can tell when it's rehearsed.
You can tell when things are scripted.
So I haven't scripted any of this.
And if you don't want to go there, you just say you don't want to go there.
But, you know, it really piqued my curiosity when we did the Back to the Future episode that you said you identified with this story because, you know, you saw Biff the bully and Marty's dad being bullied and you were bullied at school.
Who was Chris Coles at school?
Because you're a handsome guy.
You're a smart guy.
You became an actor.
You became a writer.
I was a very weird guy at school.
I was massive.
I was overweight for a large chunk of my time in school.
Then I kind of shot up like most, you know, boys do.
I hated sports.
I was a slack... I was smart, but a super slacker.
I mean, I could get away with not doing any homework, usually.
And I kind of hung out with the oddballs.
Not the geeks.
I didn't like the geeks.
I didn't like the... We had... They... Here you have Jocks.
In the UK, it was the first 15 rugby team.
I didn't hang out with the first 15 rugby team or the geeks.
I kind of had a little... The Island of Misfit Toys was my gang.
And there was about, you know, six of us.
I'm curious, what was Chris's...
What was your métier?
Who was your gang?
I did not have a gang.
This is what I had.
I had myself and I always had some kind of a sidekick.
And that sounds like kind of a weird thing to say.
No, no, no.
I can relate.
Yeah, I mean, I just, you know, I would always have, like, one close friend, and they were always, like, a little bit more socially inept than I was.
And what were you into?
Were you a studious guy?
Where did you fit into when it came to school?
I wasn't particularly studious.
I was a bit of a slacker like you were.
I often got these marks like, you know, Chris doesn't live up to his potential.
You know, that sort of classic line that you hear in movies and TV shows.
I always got that.
In the 80s, studying just wasn't that cool.
Like, it wasn't a cool thing to do.
And, you know, I wanted to be cool.
I actually wanted to be more popular.
I didn't really understand why I wasn't.
I was kind of like a weird person where I I guess because I had a good family, and I had a really charismatic father, and my mother was very funny, and so I would go home, and, you know, I was kind of a cute kid, I think, and I would look in the mirror, and I'd go, why don't people like me?
And then I would think...
They're idiots.
I'm awesome.
You know, and then I'd go play with my Legos or whatever it was.
I didn't really, I mean, I cared, but I just, it didn't affect, it didn't like traumatize me or anything, but I always had like one friend every year and I used to, I always had one enemy as well.
I always had one like arch nemesis every year and I had one good friend and then that was it.
And then once I got to, I think it was like sophomore year of high school, I made the decision that, OK, I'm going to go to college in a couple of years.
I got to stop caring what anybody thinks of me at school and stop really like working toward impressing anybody and just kind of do my own thing.
And as soon as I did that, I was popular.
People liked me, girls wanted to date me.
We have to dig a little bit deeper on that.
That is absolutely fascinating.
He looked at himself in the mirror and he said, I'm awesome!
There it is!
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All right, before we get to what you're doing today, Chris, which I love so dearly, everything you're doing on YouTube, I want to talk about what happened between high school and, you know, Mr. Reagan.
But also, talk to us a little bit about, because this is important, we forget this, you weren't just, you know, in the schoolyard seeing somebody get bullied and deciding to do something about it.
Your value system must have come from your family.
Talk to us a little bit about how those values were translated into your values.
Well, absolutely.
Okay, here's the core of it, and this is actually something I've never really talked about, I think, anywhere with anybody, but my grandfather was a very good man, very good man, and my grandmother was a very good woman, and they were very strong Christians.
And I, you know, I had friends who were atheists, and I had, you know, I had relatives who were atheists, and I, you know, on my mom's side of the family, And I could see the difference, like the difference was palpable.
In what way?
In the way they behaved or their happiness?
What was so palpable about those who had faith and those who didn't?
Yeah, it was the way they behaved, it was to some degree their level of happiness, but more so it was just about a kind of a sense of Purpose and a sense of, I think, contentment about the universe and everything like that.
Like, I have one relative, who I won't name, who, on my mother's side, who just has an unbelievable temper.
And it's a legitimate problem for the family.
And I think that if that person had grown up with a sort of a fundamental Christian ethic, they would have had much more peace in their life, and they would have grown up with a better sense of maturity.
At least the kind of Christianity that was practiced by my father's family.
Because, you know, we had our problems.
It wasn't like a perfect family.
You know, there was a little bit of bickering here and there.
My grandmother disapproved of certain boyfriends or, you know, marriages or whatever.
But at the end of the day, you knew that the family loved you and they knew they had their best interest in heart.
And at the end of the day, it was like, this was kind of like the 1950s idyllic American Family.
Again, not as perfect as like a TV show might portray.
But at the core, I always felt that the family was good.
Good people that had good intentions and really wanted the best, not just for the family, but for the world.
And I think when you grow up in that kind of an environment, you do kind of grow up with a sense of purpose and a sort of contentment about the world that like, there are good people in this world.
I think it's the people who grew up not knowing there's good people in the world that end up voting Democrat.
We'll get to politics in a moment.
So both of my parents worked.
I was an only child, so I spent a lot of time with my grandfather.
Did you spend a lot of time with your grandparents?
Is that how you got to know their value system?
Yeah, we were lucky enough to live pretty close.
We lived pretty close.
Actually, my parents moved Like right next to the town that my father grew up in.
And so we're right there.
Actually, they're remodeling my grandparents' house now.
They've been dead for many years now.
But it was weird.
I went back to their house just recently and tried on my grandfather's jacket.
That was kind of a straight up fun thing to do.
But yeah, I mean, yeah, they were pretty close.
I spent a lot of time with them.
But also, I will say that my parents also instilled the same values in me.
It's not like, you know, it stemmed from My grandparents, and I will say my mother's parents were also good people, but it did stem from them.
But my parents were also very good.
They instilled good values.
I do think having a good father is absolutely critical for the appropriate development of both boys and girls.
If you don't have a good father, I mean, I think that you're kind of in trouble.
You know, we could spend the next three hours on that alone.
For girls, they have to feel protected.
They have to understand the role of a man as protector.
My daughter has told me, my wife has told me, you have a role to play as a father to make women feel safe.
And for boys, there's so much.
I mean, just sense of purpose.
I've seen it amongst my son's friends.
If you don't show, you know, affirmation to a young man in their value system, they will be lost.
I mean, if you don't inculcate them with a value system, then affirm it.
And then also, if you don't teach them, for example, one of the key things is, that I've been analyzing, is the use of force and violence.
And when force is appropriate, and when force isn't appropriate, and, you know, protecting the vulnerable.
These are things only a father can teach a son, and these things It cannot be replaced by anybody else, except in very rare circumstances.
Okay, so what happens between high school, that decision that you're not going to care about the judgments of others, that kind of switches things for you, and Mr. Reagan?
So what was your career path, Chris?
Well, I decided to go into filmmaking primarily as a writer.
I wanted to write.
I wanted to create worlds.
I wanted to kind of do what we do, but in a more subtle way.
Instead of doing a show where I talk about politics, I would make films in which the ethics of the characters were traditional values and the stories were moral.
Or at least they had some kind of a moral core that you could see and respect or maybe You know, something that was ideal that you could want to be like or want to emulate.
So I wanted to make these sort of maybe old-fashioned value films and TV shows and stuff like that.
And so I came to L.A.
to do that.
Actually, my father has a very successful business up in Oregon.
And one day he called me and he's like, hey, Chris, are you going to take over the business or what's going on?
I'm like, like, no, dad, I'm going to Los Angeles.
I'm going to be a writer, you know.
So what was the reaction of your family that lives in the real world?
Successful, you know, business father.
What happened when you said, I'm going to make movies?
You know, what's funny about that is like I've talked to my brother's interest in my brother, Nick.
I called my brother once and I said, hey, What do you think about what I'm doing?
You know, this is back when I was like a struggling writer, uh, you know, trying to get anybody that, you know, I could to get to read my stuff, which nobody ever really did.
But, uh, I'm trying to get, trying to figure that out.
I'm like, what do you think about this career path?
And he goes, well, Chris, I don't, I can't imagine you doing anything else.
Like ever since we were children, you were always coming up with stories, telling me, you know, we'd see Santa Claus on the roof of my neighbor's, uh, house.
And I tell my brother, I'd come up with this like, like vast story about Santa that night and why he's up on the house that night and stuff.
Uh, and, uh, you know, cause he, you know, they had a figure up there.
Uh, you know, so I just come up with stories about anything and I tell my brother these stories every night because we shared a room and he's like, yeah, and he had a more better insight than anybody else because he was the one that had to hear the stories all the time.
Right.
You know, and so he was like, no, Chris, this is, of course you have to do this.
This is like your whole, this is what your whole life has been leading up to.
You're a storyteller.
That's what you do.
So for him, it was natural and normal.
For my father, he was a more practical person.
Like you say, he thought, look, Hollywood is for the Hollywood people.
It's not for normal people.
You can't just go to Hollywood and break into Hollywood as a writer.
You can't do that.
Turns out he was kind of right.
Like, it's almost impossible, really.
I mean, for me, it was.
A lot of people can do it.
There's different ways to do it.
For me, what ended up happening is I started the Mr. Reagan channel.
And what's weird is that every once in a while in life, you... I failed at a lot of stuff.
I was a very unlucky person.
Basically, my whole... Ever since I graduated from high school.
Nothing ever really works out for me.
And when I came up with the idea for the Mr. Reagan... Stay there, stay there.
I want to put our people on tenterhooks for a moment because I want to hear what happened because I have a specific question about that moment when it all exploded.
So stay there.
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Alright, so you spun me this reel about being a failure all your life.
I don't believe it for a millisecond.
And then something happened.
What happened, Chris Coles?
Tell us the genesis of Mr. Reagan.
Well, I think I was watching...
Dinesh D'Souza, I was watching, there was a few guys. - You mean my Salem colleague, Dinesh D'Souza?
That's what you meant to say. - Yeah, you're a good friend, Dinesh D'Souza.
- The man I traveled to Jerusalem with just my last month.
That, Dinesh D'Souza.
- Yeah, yeah, your buddy.
I mean, he, 'cause you must remember, like, when Trump was elected, it was kind of a weird time.
And Ben Shapiro and Dinesh D'Souza were like traveling to different colleges.
Yes.
And they were essentially like getting questions from from leftist college students who weren't really prepared to face off against people of that caliber.
This is when the YouTube Shapiro destroys liberal thing.
I mean, this is when Dinesh destroys.
This is when it became a meme, right?
Yeah.
Which, by the way, for those who don't aren't aware of this, That was the time in which they started saying, words are violence.
Yes.
And they started blocking people from the college campuses.
That was at the time when they started coming up with this theory of like, well, if even a conservative idea is dangerous and so we've got to start.
So all the stuff that's happening on Twitter now and social media and YouTube censoring everybody, it all stems from Dinesh D'Souza and Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder and these guys and just being so dang good.
And even like Milo Yiannopoulos, just shutting down leftists so hardcore that it was humiliating for them.
And they were like, how do we stop this?
Oh, I know.
Because leftist ideas are ridiculous.
And conservative ideas, for the most part, are pretty logical and rational.
And so when you compare the two, it becomes very obvious very quickly.
And leftists are like, okay, we've been lying to people for a long time, but now because of the internet, people are starting to cop on and get red-pilled.
How do we stop that?
I know, we'll just stop the conservatives from being able to speak at all.
We'll control the information, right?
And so they took that next step from just presenting a believable lie to stopping anybody from telling the truth.
And so that's kind of how that happened.
But I'm watching these guys and I'm like, oh man, these guys are so great.
I want to see more.
And it was one Saturday.
I had nothing to do and I really wanted to watch more political stuff.
And I had kind of run out of videos to watch.
And I thought, you know, some a-hole with a camera and a microphone Has got to make some new video content for YouTube.
And then I thought, wait a minute, I have a camera and I have a microphone.
I'm the a-hole.
And so I grabbed the mic and I grabbed the camera.
And like instantly I thought, okay, who's somebody I admire?
Because at the time people were using like pseudonyms for their YouTube channel.
And I thought, okay.
And you didn't know me yet.
I didn't know you personally.
But like, Sargon of Akkad and these kind of guys that I watch, they use these pseudonyms.
And I thought, that's kind of cool.
And I was like a Hollywood actor at the time, a little bit here and there.
And I thought, well, I don't really want to out myself as a conservative with using my name.
So I thought, who's somebody I admire from history that's a conservative?
Ronald Reagan.
Okay, I'll call it Mr. Reagan.
My brother used to have this shirt with Ronald Reagan's picture in a silhouette, like, you know those Che Guevara shirts?
Yes.
So he had a Ronald Reagan one.
I always thought that was super cool.
So I was like, okay, I'll do something that kind of looks like that for my logo.
And it was just like, boom, boom, boom.
I had everything like instantly.
This is what blows my mind.
This is what I do not understand for a nanosecond.
How on earth?
How on earth had nobody registered the Mr. Reagan YouTube channel already?
I know.
Well, yeah, I don't know.
I'm so jealous!
It seems obvious.
And as soon as I thought of it, I knew, okay, this is going to be successful.
Like, I knew immediately this was going to be successful.
And originally, the big videos that I was making that kind of blew up were about Jordan Peterson.
Jordan Peterson was blowing up at the time, and I was reacting to some of the stuff that was going on there.
Okay, I gotta ask you about that, because that I wasn't aware of.
The first time I got to know about you, or to start following you, was AOC, was the Gillette satire.
So I want to hear about Those original videos and also your take on Jordan Peterson, because that's really important.
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It's the MrRegan channel.
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That's what I thought.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, um, let's talk about those initial videos.
Why did you start doing videos about Jordan Peterson?
The first one that I did, he was facing off against this guy and I forgot what his name is, but he, he is this, is this race baiting black guy.
I forget his name.
And this guy used a lot of, um, Multi-syllabic words, right?
He would just riddle off all of these words.
Was it like Cornel West, somebody like that showing off?
Yeah, something like that.
It was, um, oh God, I can't remember the guy's name.
Uh, one of your, one of your producer guys should figure this out.
I can't remember.
Let me know if they figure it out.
Uh, but, but he, so he would come, he was riddling off these words and I realized like this guy is, he sounds smart.
Because he's using esoteric language that people don't understand.
Right.
And a lot of the stuff, and I was breaking down slowly.
I would, I would like listen to segments of what he's saying, and then I would express what he meant, like what he was trying to say.
And some of the stuff didn't even really make sense, but because he spoke so quickly and he was, he was expressing himself with such big words that he obviously memorized like a bunch of big words to make himself sound smart.
And I said, you know, this is what people with bad ideas do.
They will express an idea with...
Language that's difficult to understand.
They'll be unclear.
So you'll think, oh, that guy's smarter than me and therefore he must be right.
And I'll just respect what he says.
And it really annoyed me.
And so I went ahead and I made a video saying, look, he's responding to Jordan Peterson, you know, this way.
And I kind of broke it down.
I broke down what was going on in the, in the video.
And that was kind of my first kind of decent video that did well.
I think it got like well over a hundred thousand views or something.
I thought, okay, this is now we got something.
And why, explain to me why a Jordan Peterson video or debate?
I think the guy's name is Michael Eric Dyson.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
But why, tell us about the significance of Jordan Peterson and why you started there.
Well, I love Jordan Peterson.
I mean, he, you know, when I was a kid, I came up with this story about a character.
At the end of the story, the character realized that America was never going to just become more Christian.
It was probably going to become more and more agnostic and more and more atheist.
And so my character at the end of this story sits down and he starts to write a book of ethics that is essentially Christian-based ethics without the spirituality of God and the supernatural nature of Christianity.
And it was just like ethics for atheists, right?
And Jordan Peterson kind of did that.
Jordan Peterson, because I recognize that there was a need for that in our society, because we were losing our ethics, because people hated Christianity so much, hated God so much.
This is like in the 90s, I noticed this, that they were just throwing out the ethics of Christianity along with the spirituality.
They just hated God, a lot of people in America.
And so when Jordan Peterson came around, he actually was speaking to atheists and saying, look, you can't just hate Christianity.
There's a lot of value to these lessons.
And if you live your life rejecting Christian ethics because you hate Christianity, you're going to live a miserable life.
And what was weird is, like, I have a good friend from college who called me up.
He found my channel and he was like, oh, Chris, you've got this cool channel.
I love it.
I've been watching Jordan Peterson.
And I started going to church.
And I'm like, you're kidding me!
And he's like, no, no, man.
I started to realize that my sort of like hatred of Christianity was completely irrational and I should start like not being so vicious about it.
And he's like, well, man, maybe it's even right.
So I started going to church.
I'm like, you're kidding me.
So Jordan Peterson really had an incredible impact on the culture just a few years ago.
And then, of course, he got sick and he kind of disappeared for a while.
Now he's back.
He's doing some great stuff.
But yeah, he had a great impact on the culture, just sort of like waking people up and drawing people, you know, away from this hatred of Christianity, I feel like.
You know, I want this to be about you, but I think, you know, what you're doing is so linked to the kinds of things that Dr. Peterson is doing.
Let me just ask one more question here.
A lot of people for decades have been trying to convince atheists or agnostics that, you know, the values of Western civilization are important and we're actually a Christian civilization whether you know that or not.
What was it, or what is it, about Peterson that you think resonates?
You know, I think that he was There's a number of things.
First of all, he's kind of got a Mr. Rogers-like quality to him.
He's very disarming.
He's extremely intelligent.
So there's all of these reasons.
And he also has the validity of being a clinical psychologist and a respected clinical psychologist.
But then he emerged at exactly the nexus point of when Atheist libertarians were starting to recognize that they had more in common with conservative Christians than they did with atheist leftists.
That was like a weird moment, right?
And the reason is because a libertarian doesn't want to be told that he or she has to call somebody by their preferred pronoun.
And the reason Jordan Peterson became famous early on is because he stood up against Canada's proposed like law in which they were going to like fine people or get people in some kind of mandate language.
Yeah, they were going to say if you don't call somebody by their preferred pronouns, there's going to be some kind of consequence.
And he said, you know, this is a violation of civil rights.
You cannot do this.
You cannot mandate that somebody call somebody by their preferred pronoun.
If that girl looks like a she, and I call her a she, you know, don't hold a gun to my head and say, call her she!
You know, that's ridiculous.
What he said, which really was the reason for his explosion, is he said, as a human being who has empathy, I will, out of courtesy, I will comply with that student or whoever who clearly is not a A man or a woman to give, you know, the recognition by that chosen pronoun.
But the government forcing me to do that is wrong and I will not comply with a government forcing me to do that.
And I think that's the touchstone.
That's the moment that, you know, the blue touch paper was lit on the firework.
I'm loving this.
I wish we could do this for hours.
We've only got a couple of minutes left.
These are the conversations that matter, my friend.
If you're listening to this and something is, you know, resonating, it's because these are the conversations of consequence.
We have fun with Chris, but when you actually talk about values and why they matter, then you're actually having a serious discussion that isn't just fun but has consequences.
That's why Chris is a good, good friend of this show.
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Okay, we've only got literally three minutes left with you, Chris.
I think we could have another spin-off show coming off this one in addition to our Making Movies Great Again about values and Western civilization.
Let me ask you the question.
It's really the most exciting question I get to ask the friends of the show and people who come on.
Because the people who come on have courage.
Why do you do what you do?
You come from Hollywood.
You shouldn't be doing any of this.
You should be hiding from the truth.
You should be pro transgender pedophiles and transgender abusive children.
Why do you do what you do, Chris?
Yeah, and it's worse for me than some of these guys in Hollywood, because, you know, if you've already succeeded, then they can't, you know, it's a little bit harder for them to cancel you sometimes.
But for me, I was not successful in Hollywood, and I sort of made the transition to doing this stuff.
Look, it's something that I would have done anyway in stories, and now I just do it directly, where I talk much more directly about the stuff that's important to me.
I was talking to my brother about, what's the next step for the left?
Because they're always trying to push the envelope of the culture, right?
And where can they go now?
What evil are they going to promote and say is acceptable?
Like to me, it's, to me, if you take a mental illness like transgenderism and you say that's normal and that's totally fine.
And if you take people who are cross-dressers, you know, drag queen story hour, you know, hanging out with kids and go, Oh, that's perfectly fine.
Let's normalize that.
You're getting, I mean, like how crazy, like, where are you going?
Right.
And the only place I could see them going is normalizing pedophilia.
That's the next step.
And to me, that is the most despicable, disgusting, horrifying thing I could possibly imagine.
Like, I have nieces and nephews.
I don't have kids of my own.
But if anybody, you know, if anybody did anything to those kids, I would literally kill them.
I would kill them.
And I think most people feel kind of the same way about it.
Even leftist parents, of course, you know, they feel the same way.
And so I do think that that is the point in which America will shift.
Is when that starts to become normalized.
At least I hope so.
But the left is pretty dang good at tricking people.
Okay.
You know, I live in LA.
Sorry about that.
The left is pretty good at tricking people into just going along with absolute insanity.
And that could happen.
But you've absolutely nailed it.
So this is, I didn't come up with this.
Somebody, you know, far more philosophical than I did.
A civilized, a nation, a civilization, a society will be measured in the final analysis by whether or not it protected the most vulnerable in that society.
Forget everything else.
Forget laws, bills, culture.
Did you protect the most vulnerable?
Did you protect the elderly?
Did you protect the unborn?
Did you protect children?
And the left The left is coming after the children.
They've already killed a million children in the womb every single year with abortions.
Now they're trying to normalize euthanasia.
The next will be the normalization of pedophilia.
They call it minor attracted persons.
And there's even a police force in the UK, the Scottish Police Force, that has started using that terminology.
Not paedophilia, minor attracted persons.
It is up to us.
It is up to decent human beings.
It is especially up to the male of the species.
It's up to us men to stop them.
I wish we could continue.
We shall continue.
Chris, you are a breath of fresh air and you are now a success.