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Jan. 17, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Newt Gingrich goes nuclear on Joe Biden

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	We are broadcasting live from Vegas, from the biggest gun convocation of its type in the known universe.
	It's called SHOT Show for people like me.
	It's like a kid in a candy store that's 18 miles long, and it's just so much fun.
	And who do we have on the show?
	Who better to open our show today?
	America First, across the nation, 300 stations, 3.5 million listeners, is a guy who just kind of casually texted me a few days ago, and I said, hey, are you going to be at SHOT?
	And he said, yes.
	You may have heard of him.
	His name is Kyle Rittenhouse.
	Kyle, welcome to America First.
	Sebastian, thank you for having me.
	All right, so have you done this before?
	Have you been at SHOT?
	No, this is my first year here.
	I'm excited to be here.
	A lot of great people, a lot of great industries out here.
	I'm actually here with the National Association for Gun Rights.
	And we only opened the show today.
	They had what they call the media day yesterday where people like me and you can go and shoot stuff at a range.
	Today the big actual exhibition opened.
	Have you had time to look around?
	Did you see anything cool, anything exciting that catches your fancy?
	I've been to a couple booths so far.
	I was hanging out at Safari Land.
	They have some new holsters that just came out.
	They look really cool.
	All right.
	Safari Land are a legend in the industry.
	I might have to make time for that after the show.
	After the show.
	Don't go anywhere today.
	You've got to catch all three hours of America First.
	So let's talk about why you texted me.
	I think it was like two days before the show.
	You just sent me a tweet you sent out.
	Everybody follow Kyle on Twitter.
	Follow his new YouTube channel and also because and this If you find it hard to believe, look it up for yourself, because it's a fact.
	Kyle, despite being declared by a jury of his peers absolutely innocent, a man who simply defended himself, is now being sued by one of the families of the men who attacked him.
	So he has a give, send, go, give, send, go, dash, Kyle Rittenhouse.
	So please support Kyle.
	But in the last few days, You were slated to speak at a couple of events as the new media personality you are.
	What happened to those engagements, Kyle?
	So I was supposed to be giving a speech at Southern Pub Brewery with Defiance Press and they booted us because the woke mob found out I posted about it.
	I tried to promote it to get people to come and hear about censorship and the Second Amendment.
	And they didn't like that.
	They bent to the woke mob and they said, we're canceling this event.
	Thank goodness we were able to reschedule.
	It's now going to be at Lone Star Convention Center in Conroe, Texas, where you can come and watch me sing.
	But just recently, as of this morning, the Oak Room at the Venteon canceled us and bent to the woke mob saying, we aren't going to host you guys anymore.
	So you can go to NAGR booth.
	I'm not sure on the time.
	I think I'm going to post that on Twitter.
	RSVP to come to our next place.
	So you're meant to be speaking on an event about censorship and the Second Amendment.
	The hosts cancel the event, correct?
	The venue cancels the event, about censorship.
	Censorship in itself, and they said they are apolitical, but after doing a dive into their social media, they've hosted pride parades, they've had political events there.
	It's just because of my name and they're just being unfair and biased.
	So if you had gone there to like have a drag queen story hour or a pride event, you'll be fine?
	Yeah, I'd probably be okay.
	So let's talk about the bigger picture here, because now that you're more active on social media, you've got your YouTube channel, I love seeing, now that Elon's kind of fixed stuff quite significantly at Twitter, I see your posts come up on my feed all the time.
	Yeah.
	I will say, though, I've noticed a little bit of censorship just in the past couple days on Twitter.
	I don't know if it's censorship or I don't know if, like, people are getting bored of Twitter or people are getting kicked off.
	What are you seeing?
	I'm not seeing as many conservative posts on Twitter.
	I don't know if you've been noticing that.
	I've heard people say that in the last two days.
	I haven't seen it, but I've heard people complain.
	I did a poll on Instagram and I've gotten several hundred DMs saying that they aren't seeing a lot of my stuff.
	They have to search my name to find it.
	So I'm not sure on what that is.
	Elon, are you listening?
	What's going on?
	I know you're a busy guy, I know you're going to Mars and all that stuff, and Tesla, but yeah, we need to make sure that things are working as you intended them to function on Twitter.
	So, for some reason I'm still seeing your posts, and there's a thread, there's a kind of theme to so many of them, because you talk about the Second Amendment, you talk about your events, you talk about Twitter, give, send, go, the assaults on you, but Most of the posts, as I see them, as the algorithm puts them on my feed...
	It's something from the Bible, it's something about never giving up, about standing tall, standing strong.
	Talk to us about why you think it's important to make those statements.
	You stood up, you fought the good fight, you won, you were vindicated, but you haven't let that disappear and you're sending these messages out to all your followers.
	Tell us why that's so important for you.
	Well, absolutely.
	It's so important to me to talk about the Bible and to post Bible verses because somebody may be having a bad day and it may lift somebody up.
	Somebody may need to read that and to be a good witness to others and to also talk about my story and the right to self-defense and other things going on, to talk about censorship, to talk about people having to defend themselves, to talk about the crisis going on in America with Planned Parenthood and what they're doing and killing our babies, to talk about things like that.
	I want everybody to go and follow you and to go to these events.
	Give us a little bit of a tease.
	When you have these new locations, these new venues that aren't woke, what kinds of things are you going to be telling the people who come to your events, Kyle?
	Well, I want to talk about Second Amendment.
	I want to talk about what's going on in Illinois with the assault rifle ban, what's going on in Colorado, how in Illinois, thank goodness there's about 78 police departments, from what I read, sheriff departments that are refusing to enforce the assault rifle ban.
	Well, it's funny because an AR-15 is not even an assault rifle, but it's ridiculous.
	These states are passing these laws, and law-abiding citizens are no longer able to use an AR-15 to defend themselves.
	An AR-15 saved my life.
	Yeah, and not only that, if you look at what happened in Maryland right now, which lost the court cases.
	had to make a shall issue concealed carry permit so that had an explosion.
	We got the figures yesterday, Jeff, it went from like 12,000 to 60,000 concealed carry permits in the last year.
	Now they brought legislation to make it that if you are within 100 feet of a public building, meaning any building, you can't use your concealed carry permits.
	So they're doing end runs around the Constitution.
	Explain to those, what message would you have?
	Because we've got like 34, 35 million new gun owners in America in the last three years.
	I think some of it is connected with COVID, but our family, like the people coming here, is massively expanded.
	What would you say to people who are new to this family of the Second Amendment and guns?
	Well if you think about it, so everybody's buying these new firearms now, but there's people pushing to get these revoked.
	People's buying firearms because they know Four, five, six years down the road, we may not be able to purchase an AR-15, a pistol.
	We may not be able to go and buy a shotgun.
	So people are worried that their rights are going to be taken away and they don't want to be naked and not have anything to protect themselves, if that makes sense.
	Oh, utterly.
	As far as I'm concerned, it is the civil right, and I see the Second Amendment as a civil right that makes all the others possible.
	By the way, I mentioned it last time you were on the show, I'm going to mention it again.
	If you haven't seen what this young man did, with not a lot of firearms training, you admitted it last time.
	What you did in Kenosha, when three guys were coming at you, one guy had a Glock pointed at your head, it was a little bit like John Wick.
	I mean, your gun handling was so on point, you defended yourself, so I salute you again for what you did, especially in the courtroom afterwards.
	How old are you, Kyle?
	I just turned 20.
	20.
	Incredible.
	You've got a great future ahead of you.
	Give, send, go slash Carl Rittenhouse.
	YouTube channel, Twitter channel.
	Follow him right now.
	He is going to be one of the most important spokesmen for the Second Amendment and for the whole industry.
	God bless you, Carl.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	All right, I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	We've got nine.
	We'll mention the SFX, Rival, Steel Frame.
	Rival S, yeah.
	And the new one is, we just released it today, the Micro Compact, or MC9.
	You had a compact last year.
	This is the Micro Compact.
	Even smaller.
	Size of the Hellcat P365.
	What's it called?
	The MC9, Micro Compact.
	MC9, okay.
	I'll give you basic specs on it, we'll talk about it.
	Great.
	You like the Rival S?
	I do.
	It just shoots.
	It just shoots.
	Oh, I'll send you a picture because I'll send you a copy of a photo of mine.
	He can't find the SFX online.
	Well, I've got a photograph.
	Hang on.
	It's just, it's just like a laser.
	Such a tight group.
	And it's all over our social media too.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Come on.
	All right.
	I'll send it to you.
	Oh, hang on.
	I sent it to you.
	That's easiest.
	How you been?
	Good.
	Really good.
	Yeah.
	There we go.
	Come on.
	That's a nice little grouping.
	I know.
	And I wasn't even trying.
	I wasn't even trying.
	It's amazing.
	Honestly, like that extra weight, that extra pound just changed.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	If it's a little bit noisy for you, that's because, well, we're at a big convention center, the convention center in Vegas on the Strip.
	It's SHOT Show.
	It's the biggest gun event of its kind, and we're just, you know, reaching out and grabbing the coolest guests possible from Century International, a company that is going places.
	We have Adam Ranola.
	Adam, welcome back to America First.
	You know, thank you for having me.
	I mean, like you said, this is the biggest day, the biggest week of the year for our industry, and what a better way to kick it off than next year.
	And not only are you having a great day so far, he's very dapper, very natty.
	A lot of people have to look kind of tactical in their cargo pants.
	But this guy's smart, and he's got a very cool lapel pin for those of you who are watching.
	It's like a gold AK, right?
	It is exactly a gold AK.
	I mean, why not be classy and cool all at the same time?
	And why an AK?
	Explain to our millions of listeners.
	So Century Arms, for over 60 years, has focused on being the number one importer of AK-47s in the world.
	And it is now the number one manufacturer of AK-47s in the United States, and we're just super excited to embrace our heritage, to embrace what we do.
	And you know what?
	If a gold AK on your lapel helps say that?
	And I said how nice it is, and what does he do?
	He gives me one of his gold AKs.
	I'm going to have to wear this.
	I'm going to have to put it on right now, right under my presidential service pin.
	Don't get any wrong ideas, Secret Service, OK?
	All right?
	AKs.
	ARs.
	Tell us why AKs.
	You know, the thing about an AK is it's such an iconic platform.
	I mean, it has been utilized to defend and to take countries all over the world.
	And they only made like 70 million of them in the Cold War, right?
	You know, and it's crazy.
	I mean, guys are making animal railroad ties.
	You know, so... Fixing it with a hammer.
	Yeah, or fixing it with a rock, let's be honest.
	So it's one of the most iconic platforms.
	It's proven, it's resilient.
	There is a great place in our industry for ARs, but there's nothing like knowing this iconic platform has been around forever and it's still relevant.
	And let's be honest, the 7.62x39 is a round that not a lot can contend with.
	And then they tried to, like, rediscover it with the 300 Blackout.
	Like, dudes, I mean, the 300 Blackout's been around for a while.
	It's called the 7.62 Russian.
	Okay, but you've got some big news.
	I tried out your SFX rival steel, the S. Let's put the image up on the screen, if Eric has it.
	This was me, like, last weekend, not trying, at the range of, like, seven yards, one whole group.
	That is a strong grouping.
	Did you hand pick that for me?
	Did you ship it out?
	You know, I just shipped it out.
	This is a gun that is holding true to what the Canik brand motto is, and that is superior firearms.
	And then you've changed it.
	You've upped the game here because you've gone from a polymer grip.
	Right.
	So yes, so the Canik Rival, which you shot, obviously won 2022 Handgun of the Year for Industry Choice and Ballistics Best.
	One handgun for both.
	And we said we have something here that's really special in The mold, the design, but there's that need for steel frame pistols.
	Is it just for competitive shooters or anybody?
	I mean, it's really for anybody.
	It definitely gives you a competitive edge in having a 2.67 pound weight to suck out the recoil.
	It really does.
	You know, and so other things we're really gonna do.
	It's got a forged slide, which adds that additional weight.
	So it's about a pound heavier than the polymer sister of it in the standard rival.
	But then it's also got a 4140 steel cast frame and the reason you do that people don't realize there's so many negative connotations around cast right but in cast in a frame it actually absorbs the vibration it has it has a different physical quality 100 that's the reason cnc machines are actually made the frames of them are made out of cast metal because the only way they can keep the calibration at what it needs to be and absorb that that recoil that reverb and that's what we did
	i mean there's so much time and effort that went into making this the optimal platform and it's thousands of dollars right you know it's gonna break the bank at under 900 bucks 899 that's nuts all right but Right, but you come to my show and in the break you say, oh yeah, we released another gun this morning, so I can't even keep up with Sentry International.
	So you got the big steel frame, cool gun, what else have you got?
	We went the exact opposite.
	So as we know, there's really two places that people are most prominent when they're having a firearm.
	That's like you said, on a range, in competition, and that's something like the Rival and the Rival S's.
	But then the reality, and what is the most important for our second minute, is the ability to defend yourself.
	Which is a burgeoning market.
	The CCW concealed carry is massive.
	And Canik had not really delved into that to the full extent of a micro compact until today.
	So you had a compact, we talked about it last year.
	The CB9 Elite SC, great gun, it's a little bit more girth, but really that slim, Super concealable, super reliable gun that is so important in our market now.
	Koenig never wanted to be first to market.
	Our slogan for this launch, for the MC9, the Micro Compact 9mm, was prepared superior.
	Getting it right.
	Which means two things.
	Yes, prepare yourself for that moment that you need to be able to defend yourself, or make a decision if you have to.
	And also, get it right.
	Exactly.
	Does it look like the other canics just shrunk down?
	It does, it does.
	So it's got the same, it's got the canic trigger, ambidextrous, it's 1.1 inches wide, so very narrow.
	Oh, is it a single stack or double stack?
	It's a stack and a half.
	- Yeah, so this is what it's gonna.
	So it is four and a half inches tall and 6.1 inches wide, 12 plus one and 15 plus one.
	Comes with an inside the waistband holster, different back straps, two magazines, a pinky rest, extended grip, all the things you need to truly composite.
	Co-witnesses, optics ready, everything.
	Inside the waistband holster added $399.99.
	No, no, no.
	All that stuff?
	Under $400.
	I'll give you one thing and I'm not blowing smoke because it just struck me.
	Your marketing When the thing arrives at your dealer, especially the SFX, it looks like an iPad or a Mac.
	The way you've packaged it, the design, the little mini handgun that's the tool as well.
	Nobody else does that.
	Why do you guys take that extra time to put that kind of design package together?
	The reality is this.
	In a time where we know economic issues are going and stuff like this, people are depending on a firearm and they're choosing Canik With their hard-earned money.
	$400, while it may be a great deal for a gun, is a lot of money to a lot of people.
	Are you talking about Biden's economy?
	It's a lot of money.
	Down the rabbit hole.
	But it is a lot of money.
	So if they're going to have the faith in us, we're going to show them how much it means.
	So we're going to give them the value that these people deserve.
	Not only to feel appreciated, but to be able to utilize this platform with the most success they possibly can.
	And that comes from everything from The different color sights that come in Arrival S. What does your eye adapt to?
	Is it red?
	Is it green?
	To the different size grips, to the tool kit, to the holster.
	We want to set people up with success and sometimes it's okay to sacrifice a little margin to do it the right way for our country and for our economy when maybe everybody else wants to say the firearms platform, the firearms community isn't interested in them.
	We want to put our best foot forward and show them we are.
	Alright, well I predict both of those are going to be huge successes.
	The SFX Rival S and the new MC9 Sentry International.
	We've been talking to the National Director of Marketing, Adam Ranola.
	Adam, have a great show.
	Thanks for coming on.
	Thank you.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	You heard what the man said!
	That's President Trump.
	I've got a weird echo in the background.
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	There we go.
	You've got to listen.
	He's one of us.
	That's what President Trump said.
	We've got President Trump.
	We've got a cut from him later in the show.
	But the scandal of the ever-increasing number of classified documents from the Biden family.
	Little old Benny Ben Rhodes has commented.
	You won't believe what he said.
	Cut to play cuts.
	Well, I remember, you know, packing up my office, and I think I was at the White House until, like, five in the morning, a couple of days before the inauguration.
	But the reality is, these documents are well-marked, and that's why they're well-marked.
	They're cover sheets.
	Every page is stamped with a classification level.
	So, for me, it was just a matter of dumping all those documents in burn bags.
	I think it's trickier for a president or vice president, who obviously have far more documents in their offices, in their residences, than I did as a White House official.
	And so clearly what happened here is something went wrong in the process of packing up those documents.
	Documents got co-located.
	And they could have been co-located, by the way, at any time.
	It might have happened months before things were packed up.
	A memo gets put in the wrong place here.
	That's Ben Rhodes, who worked in the Obama White House for the duration of that administration.
	And not only that, he never acquired Yes, the only person in the White House that even the FBI refused to provide an interim clearance to because of, oh, I don't know, what are the problems in your background, little Benny Rhodes, that you could never get a real clearance like I and Hundreds and thousands of other individuals and political appointees obtained.
	And you are commenting, you are commenting on the Presidential Records Act and secret documents.
	And the logic is what?
	Why would the President have more than anyone else?
	He's not a staffer!
	The staffers handle the documents.
	What do you think, the presidents of America have filing cabinets of secret information they carry around in briefing packets?
	No!
	You liar!
	It's the staffers that handle the documents.
	Anything coming out of his mouth is an absolute lie.
	But others are prepared to tell the truth.
	One of the most important great thinkers, speakers on political, cultural issues in America live today is former Speaker Newt Gingrich.
	And he holds no bars.
	There are no holds barred with him.
	Listen to what Speaker Gingrich has said about this latest Biden scandal.
	It's not about Biden.
	It's about a much deeper establishment which has grown very sick and very corrupt and which is a threat to the very survival of freedom in this country in ways we can't even begin to imagine.
	It includes partly business community leaders, includes partly the news media.
	It certainly includes large parts of the academic world who've taken money from various dictatorships and then hidden it and lied about it.
	And in this particular case, maybe we finally reached the ultimate The apex of this, we now have a President of the United States who, for all practical purposes, runs a criminal family.
	His two brothers, his son, there's no other reasonable behavior that explains it, except they were all selling influence, and he knew it, and he personally profited from it.
	It's a crime cartel.
	The Biden crime cartel.
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	He said it out loud.
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	How long have we got left in this segment, gentlemen?
	Somebody with...
	Two and a half.
	Nice.
	All right.
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	Many moons ago I wore a uniform in the British Army Reserves.
	I was a DoD civilian.
	But these guys, they've been doing some amazing stuff for our military and law enforcement community.
	And they've got some very interesting plans.
	And I was on the range yesterday, and I was talking to somebody who makes very special AR-15s and other weapons, and he said, yeah, and this company, KGM, they make amazing suppressors.
	And I said, oh, yeah.
	And he showed me a video.
	And it was like something out of a movie.
	And we are delighted to have former Marine Richard Cope.
	He is the president and founder of KGM with us.
	Mr. Cope, welcome to America First.
	Thank you, Dr. Bergen.
	So tell us about what KGM does, what your focus has been in the past, and what kind of plans you have for the future.
	Well, thank you.
	So about three years ago, I joined with Kyle Graub, who's the founder and our chief technology officer.
	We saw two opportunities in this market space.
	One around the health of our shooters, because the gun blast is similar to getting hit in the head by a football player.
	It causes traumatic brain injury, hearing loss, and tonight, the shockwave.
	Even though you put double ears on, that thing still hits your skull and rattles your brain.
	And the Uniformed Service University is now associating that with PTSD, drug abuse, and suicide rates.
	Wow.
	So just the concussive force of the muzzle blast.
	Right.
	And you know, we've all shot that and winced when we shoot it.
	When the guy in the range is like the 300 wind man next to you.
	That's no fun.
	So health is one big opportunity to help our warfighters.
	The other is operational effectiveness.
	Marine Corps has demonstrated better operational effectiveness.
	And we know, and you know this from what you've done and also been there, is that even though you've got HIMARS fighter jets and drones, you need an infrequent with a weapon to take back the territory.
	You've got to close with enemy and hold the ground.
	You can't do that with a drone.
	You kill them or you drive them off.
	And so we do the health issue and we make them more combat effective.
	So how do we do that?
	Well, I saw a lot of YouTube videos of people standing out with old analog meters.
	Look, Billy Bob, this looks good.
	Measuring the decibel level.
	I have developed rockets, missiles, hypersonic weapons, spent three years at DARPA, so I'm about data.
	So it depends on the big think tanks.
	Exactly.
	Big tanked up.
	Building things that never existed before.
	So we built a million dollar fully instrumented shoot room so we can replicate data over and over again.
	All of the agencies come there.
	So we use that to develop our suppressor technology.
	And it's not the old school just baffles.
	No.
	It's high tech.
	It's fluid dynamics, stoichiometry and physics.
	Big words.
	But what we said is people are thinking about this wrong.
	They're thinking sound.
	I'm a Marine.
	We have to qualify every year.
	If you can't hit what you shoot at, it doesn't matter.
	Right.
	So we have five pillars of suppression.
	Accuracy, flash, recoil, gas to the shooter, sound is number five.
	Wow.
	Because it's no good having a good suppressor if your accuracy is garbage.
	You can't hit what you're shooting at.
	Marine Corps, we shoot iron sights at 500 yards.
	Yes.
	And we hit the damn thing.
	Yes.
	So we designed our suppressor parameters around that.
	Accuracy, the FBI chose us among everybody in the world because they shoot better So your cans are on the FBI site?
	cipher rifles than they ever shot before.
	So your cans are on the FBI's...
	$4 million DOJ contract.
	Congratulations.
	Number two is flash reduction.
	Not so much for civilians, but you've been there, you've seen the movies, you shoot at the flashy lights in the dark.
	Ours has almost zero light coming out of the front.
	In the dead of night, you can't see the shooter past 50 feet.
	Because of that fluid dynamics?
	Because of stoichiometry.
	Stoichiometry is consumption of flame.
	Stoichiometry is what makes your engine work.
	How do you consume the oxygen in the suppressor so that light doesn't come out the front?
	We're also working with the military on diffusing the infrared signature so with thermal devices you still can't see the shooter.
	So that's flash and flame.
	Number three is recoil reduction.
	We designed the weapon.
	We take that 150 psi in the chamber, pushing that bullet downrange.
	Remember, that's accelerating the bullet from 0 to 3,000 feet per second in 12 inches.
	Right.
	We take that energy and we use it to reduce the recoil.
	So instead of that thing shoving you in the shoulder, It's a slow push.
	You keep your eye on a target.
	You don't lose a target acquisition.
	And on machine guns, it quiets them down to where you can put strings in a two-foot square at 500 meters.
	Right.
	This is all very exciting, but not everybody listening to this show is a high-speed, 3-in-1 operator, FBI guy.
	And I had a stat yesterday that shocked me.
	Less than 1% of shooters in America own suppressors.
	Correct.
	So you've got some plans, have you?
	Can you talk about those, Mr. Koch?
	So, we are working with law enforcement, military, and then we have some consumer sales out there where they can come buy our suppressors.
	Again, hearing loss and being able to shoot the thing safely and hit what you shoot at.
	Right now, when you hold this weapon and we have less gas to the shooter, when you hold the weapon, you're trying to force it to do what you want and it fights against you.
	When you get back home and you put this on your weapon, here's what's going to happen.
	And you can tell me next week whether it's right.
	You're gonna fire three rounds, you're gonna take it off your shoulder and look at it because it's now cooperating with you.
	You're not fighting it.
	You're not fighting it.
	You're not trying to overpower it, lean into it, tense up your shoulders, and stay on target.
	It'll stay on target, it'll be your friend, it'll do what you want to do, and you'll be amazed at how come this has never happened before.
	I like that.
	I think we just found an advertising tag for KGM.
	Don't you want your weapon to be your friend?
	Well, KGM can help you out.
	I'm so excited.
	We're going to test those weapons out imminently.
	We'll have some footage on the show.
	KGM Technologies.
	We've been talking to former Marine, a bit of a wonk.
	I think he's like a science guy as well.
	He is Richard Cope.
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	Dr. G. So why do we come here?
	Why do we do this?
	We schlep.
	I don't schlep.
	Jeff schleps all the gear across the country sitting coach for five and a half hours because we love to fly on Southwest.
	I'm never flying on Southwest again, guys.
	We do this because we're broadcasting.
	And then, oh, yeah, Eric Trump walks by.
	How are you, my friend?
	Good to see you!
	Well, I know you're a shooter.
	Oh, totally.
	If I'm not working, that's all I do.
	It's good to be a SHOT Show.
	So, have you done this before?
	Many times.
	Many times.
	So, I know your brother's a big hunter, right?
	What second amendment thing are you into?
	Every Second Amendment thing.
	If it flies through the air, I love it.
	I grew up doing a lot of competitive shotgun, competitive rifle, long-range stuff.
	I'm a nut.
	If I'm not working, I'm shooting.
	It doesn't matter if it's a long-range rifle, shotgun, pistol, carbine, black powder.
	And I love hunting.
	I've been shooting since I was a kid.
	Well, it's an English thing.
	You guys never run around the woods with bows.
	They don't have that over there.
	Well, we've got the longbow.
	Longbow, longbow.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So I've got to ask you, long range.
	If you're into long range.
	I'm pretty good, but I'm old school, because in the army I used the .308 and the 7.62.
	Somebody sent me a 6.5 pre-more.
	Great.
	What do you like?
	When it comes to ballistic coefficient, do you like Wildcats?
	What are you doing?
	So I do a lot of Wildcats.
	I load for over 100 calibers.
	It's something that very few people know about at TROMP, but I love the 6mm.
	So I shoot a lot of the 6 Dashers, 6 GTs.
	Because it's more stable?
	No, I just like them.
	I mean, they're low recoil.
	They fly really, really well.
	They're fantastic.
	At 1,200 yards, I just I love the 6mm.
	Now I shoot everything, right?
	I shoot everything from .14 calibers to Chi-Tacs to .50 cals and everything in between.
	But I always love... Did you shoot this thing?
	There's something called DTE.
	They make these kind of custom ARs that have MAGA connections.
	Have you shot one of those?
	Yeah, the BTE guys are the greatest guys of the world.
	A guy named George, he makes... George!
	Come here, George!
	Crouch down here between us.
	Crouch down here between us.
	Let's get him on.
	Photobomb us live in front of three million people.
	That's right.
	You sent me a MAGA 9mm AR, special gold kind of titanium accents.
	Absolutely.
	Tell all of our listeners why you did that.
	Well, you know, I did it... First of all, we appreciate what you do, the support you give for the MAGA movement, the Trump family, the Second Amendment, and just conservatism in general.
	It's great to see somebody that comes here from another country and appreciates our freedoms that we have that so many have fought and died for.
	So I just, that was my way of using my ability, my craft to say thank you.
	I was inspired by Eric Stad's book, The Art of the Deal in 1987.
	He wrote it.
	And at the end of the book, he says, what's next for Donald Trump?
	He says, I'm going to use my skill, my ability, my craft to give back to a nation that's been so great for me.
	And he did it, and he's back.
	I was at Mar-a-Lago when he announced.
	We are so excited he's declared war on the deep state again.
	Can I ask you one favor?
	Tell me.
	Will you tell your dad thanks?
	I will.
	And thanks to you, thanks to Don, thanks to everybody who keeps on fighting.
	What a great day.
	Eric Trump, my... Whoever thought I would see you here?
	We used to see each other in D.C.
	Crazy!
	We used to see each other all over the political... This is where we should be all the time.
	By the way, 100%.
	This is a lot more fun.
	God bless.
	See you guys in 10 minutes.
	It's on this channel.
	Thank you.
	You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	We are coming to you live from SHOT Show, the largest Second Amendment gun event convocation of its kind on the planet.
	18 miles, 18 miles of exhibition space here on the strip in Vegas.
	So superb to just have guests walk by and come on the show like Eric Trump.
	Wasn't that fun?
	Well, let's get back to business.
	Let's get back to saving Western civilization and the Constitution in America.
	One of the most sagacious, wisest individuals on matters political and the Republic's founding principles is, of course, the former Speaker of the House who, well, I don't think it's both barrels of the shotgun he blasted.
	I think he had a howder pistol and he had them in each hand and he Took no prisoners.
	Newt Gingrich on the ever, ever expanding Biden classified material scandal.
	It's not about Biden.
	It's about a much deeper establishment which has grown very sick and very corrupt and which is a threat to the very survival of freedom in this country in ways we can't even begin to imagine.
	It includes partly business community leaders.
	It includes partly the news media.
	It certainly includes large parts of the academic world who've taken money from various dictatorships and then hidden it and lied about it.
	And in this particular case, maybe we finally reached the ultimate The apex of this, we now have a President of the United States, who for all practical purposes, runs a criminal family.
	His two brothers, his son, there's no other reasonable behavior that explains it, except they were all selling influence, and he knew it, and he personally profited from it.
	A criminal cartel profiting the current incumbent of the White House.
	That's quite a statement from Speaker Gingrich.
	Let's ask for reaction.
	One of our most sagacious regular guests on the show, Lord Conrad Black.
	Lord Black, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you very much, Sebastian.
	Glad to be with you, and especially at the show you're at, at Las Vegas, where a company I'm associated with is an exhibitor.
	Oh, we'll have to find out which one in the break and then we will make an appearance at their booth.
	Lord Black, are you surprised by the robustness of Newt Gingrich's analysis of this latest scandal?
	No, not surprised.
	He goes a little farther than I would for this reason.
	I've followed this as best I can, and the conduct of the Biden family in the matter that Newt refers to is very tawdry and very distasteful.
	And it seems to me it must in some respects be illegal, not necessarily illegal by the current president, but by some of his family members, and possibly by him.
	But where I would carve, not an exception, but I just make a point, is that as far as I can see, There is no evidence that U.S.
	government policy was ever modified in response to money paid to members of the Biden family.
	So I don't think we want to incite the allegation that they've been taking bribes and corruptly abusing the present president's consecutive positions in government because of the bribes they've received.
	But on the other hand, it seems to me that they have all lied about the nature of this.
	I would be astounded if it had been reported correctly in tax terms, or in terms of registering as agents for a foreign country.
	I think it's been an outright sale of access and influence, and is a very tawdry and frankly disgraceful arrangement.
	Whether I would go quite as far as Newt and say that it's a criminal family and a criminal operation, I'm not sure.
	I think we should stick to the practice of giving people a benefit of the doubt before convicting them of crimes.
	But I think we can convict them of dishonesty and tawdryness and conduct completely inappropriate to the great offices that Joe Biden has held.
	To quote, to make an analogy, to a comment from a great American jurist, justice must not simply be done, justice must seem to be done as well.
	Even if we can't demonstrate an actual change in US government policy to Ukraine or China based upon some handout and some corruption, does it not, is it not adequate enough I would say it is.
	for example, that an individual with no background in Asia, no background in venture capital or banking, travels on Air Force Two with his then father, the vice president, to China and gets a $1.4 billion deal from the National Bank of Commerce China with no credentials to do so.
	Is that not in and of itself a disqualifying event for the whole family politically?
	I would say it is.
	I'm not convinced it's a crime.
	And as I say, I would give anyone the benefit of the doubt until they're proved guilty of crimes.
	But in the terms you're speaking of, I agree absolutely with you, and it completely disqualifies them, in my opinion, from the current president holding the position he does.
	It's conduct absolutely incompatible with the holder of such a great office, including also the previous offices he held.
	as Vice President and as U.S. Senator and Committee Chairman.
	And in addition to that, I just make the point, I think that this isn't so much foreign governments giving bribes to the Bidens.
	It is, in my opinion, the Bidens hosing foreign governments out of their underclothing and convincing them that paying the Bidens was going to get them anywhere.
	I don't think Joe Biden is taken.
	I mean, obviously, now that he's president, he has the ability to do all kinds of things.
	But prior to this, I don't think he was taken seriously enough to be adequately influential to change government policy in ways that would have been useful to Ukraine or China or other countries.
	So I think, in a sense, he outsmarted them.
	But it is still conduct totally inappropriate.
	To the high public offices that he has held, and it is absolutely germane to his qualification to be the president.
	I think it's the shabbiest and most disgraceful thing that I can remember afflicting any president in my lifetime.
	Certainly nothing that Mr. Nixon did, which was merely a series of mistakes, was remotely as distasteful as this.
	Well, talk about your latest piece for the New York Sun, where you make the connection back to the period of the Vietnam War and to President Nixon in our next segment.
	But in the meantime, Lord Black, do you have any theory, any supposition?
	Because the way this has unfolded is very strange.
	They have the first report about the Penn office with the closet of top secret information.
	My producer said, well, they probably leaked this now because it's Enough in advance of the next election to make it a kind of yawn-yawn story two years from now.
	But in the preceding 48 hours, that story became the documents in the garage, the documents in the private office, so on and on and on as if it were a concerted effort.
	Is it possible?
	Is it plausible that perhaps the albatross that is Joe Biden is now being jettisoned by the left itself?
	I'm not necessarily the left.
	By the powers that be in the Democratic Party, yes, I would say so.
	I think that is distinctly possible.
	I don't want to put on the airs of having any connection whatever.
	To the present Democratic Party.
	I've been somewhat friendly with some Democratic leaders in the past, but I don't know anyone in this administration.
	So all I have is rank surmise and what, you know, my well-informed friends in Washington like yourself tell me.
	But it seems to me that one of two things is happening.
	Either they're cranking up to take another shot at Donald Trump and are putting on this front, this facade of bipartisanship, equal opportunity, special prosecutors.
	Or, and I think this is perhaps more likely, the powers that be in the Democratic Party realize that they're going to have to do better than Joe Biden in 2024.
	And since he seems not to be taking the hint, they're going to help grease the rails for him a bit.
	All right, we shall see.
	I'm sure there is more to be revealed imminently as the story continues to be dripped out.
	What is the historic context, the comparison to the Nixon era and Vietnam?
	That is our topic next with our special guest, Lord Conrad Black, the author I'm Sebastian Gawker coming to you live from the Vegas Strip, from SHOT Show, from our mobile ReliefFactor.com studios.
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	Lord Black momentarily.
	Lord Black momentarily.
	Conrad!
	Yes, sir?
	What was the name of the company that you're affiliated with here?
	Yeah, I'm one of the owners of this outfit that makes laser-based rangefinders and other night optical equipment, thermal equipment.
	It's called NuCon, N-E-W-C-O-N, Optic.
	That's Optic with a K at the end.
	So, I mean, if you happen by, they would be thrilled to see you.
	But I realize it's a huge show.
	I will find them after the show.
	Is there anybody there I should look for or just introduce myself?
	Well, in particular, Alex Rudy.
	He's a guy from Moldova originally and his father-in-law founded the company.
	I think he would generally be there.
	Good, excellent.
	I shall look them up.
	We'll do the comparison with Vietnam and the Nixon era that you wrote in the book, in the article.
	Yeah, okay, good.
	And I'll call you later in the week.
	Will you be there in Las Vegas all week?
	No, no.
	We'll do the show again tomorrow, and I fly home tomorrow night.
	So by Thursday morning, I'll be back in the studio.
	Well, I'll send you an email about the Substack business later in the week.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Fridays is good usually to chat if you want to chat.
	Okay.
	That's what I'll do.
	All right.
	Standby.
	Did you take time, by the way, Seb, to pay a visit to the ATF booth?
	Oh, it's crazy.
	I passed it by accident this morning, and it was like 40 guys in suits.
	No normal person.
	I think they were afraid, and they had like 40 guys standing at the booth in suits.
	I would just be so tempted to walk by and very loudly make a joke about a dog.
	Just, like, to mess with them.
	Yeah, they... I've never seen so many ATF guys before at SHOT Show.
	Oh, also something else.
	One of our long-lost friends made an appearance on the Critical Drinkers VIP Lounge last night.
	Yeah, who?
	Terry Shappert.
	Bastard.
	You were talking about, like, movie guns.
	Terry Shappert went on the Critical Drinkers show yesterday.
	Just try to get him back.
	I don't know.
	I'll text him.
	He's back on the grid.
	How long till we go?
	Uh, minute... How long?
	Minute ten.
	Minute ten.
	Okay, good.
	Alright.
	Right, so I need the consumer research.
	Where was that?
	Yeah.
	You emailed that, right?
	Alex?
	Yes.
	I got it.
	I have that.
	I need the other one.
	The consumer research.
	Did you send that to me?
	Alex?
	Yes.
	He says he did.
	Is your mic on, Alex?
	Okay, okay.
	Yes.
	Yeah, it is.
	Okay.
	40 seconds.
	What's the URL for that, Alex?
	I got it.
	Oh, OK.
	I got it.
	I got it.
	Oh, no.
	This is Defense Tax Partners.
	I don't need that one.
	Is there another one?
	I'm going to my email now.
	Short show.
	20 seconds.
	Oh, I got it.
	Consumer Research.
	I got it.
	Consumer Research.
	I'm coming with that.
	Alrighty.
	All right. 15 seconds. 15 seconds.
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	We are back with our very special regular guest to comment on matters strategic, political and historic, the author of numerous works all worth your time.
	He's, of course, Lord Conrad Black.
	Lord Black, you have written a piece for the New York Sun, putting the Biden classified documents scandal into context.
	Explain to us why you connect it to the Vietnam era and to the Watergate scandal.
	Well, I was expressing my view that I have all the more than 50 years that I've been following Joe Biden as a public figure.
	Almost never agreed with him on anything, and I think that's a view more authoritatively stated by the former Defense Secretary, Mr. Gates, who said that he'd been wrong on every strategic issue throughout his career.
	But I was particularly referring to a number of things that have caused me over the years Somewhat vociferous, but certainly very consistent in my criticism of the incumbent president.
	I mentioned in the Nixon era, I think his first initiative on being elected to the U.S.
	Senate in 1972 was to propose a cap on assistance to South Vietnam, which eventually was taken up, not at his suggestion, but others two years later, and of course provoked the
	The occupation of that country by North Vietnam and the flight of over a million people who risked, in many cases, gave their lives to escape communism and was a tragic and unnecessary end to a war to which the United States made a great contribution to conserve the the population of Vietnam that did not wish to be communist.
	And I thought for a freshman senator to make such a proposal was absurd, but it was followed by sequels of the same wrongheadedness.
	I mean, his ideas on Iraq were to break up the country into zones that couldn't be administered and would have had no possibility of distributing equitably the oil revenues of the country.
	I mean, I'm just consistently shocked that in the high positions he's held, he doesn't have better judgment. .
	What does it say about America that this is the individual that allegedly 80 million Americans chose as their chief executive?
	I think it has to be elaborated carefully to get the relevance of it to the status of the country as a whole.
	He happened to be the choice alighted upon by the powers that be in the Democratic Party.
	They were desperate to get rid of Trump, and they were, in fact, representing the never-Trump faction of the Republicans as well and had the task support of many of them, including highly placed ones.
	And they couldn't go with Bernie Sanders because he was too left-wing, and they might not have been able to stuff enough harvested ballots into the right boxes to bring him across the finish line.
	So they settled upon Joe Biden because there was nobody else around who was adequately comforting to the Sandersites but not frightening to the moderate Democratic majority.
	And so he was a place of convenience.
	But I don't think they could possibly have imagined that he had deteriorated as much in his cognitive faculties as he had.
	And I'm sure, in fairness to the Democratic Party organizers, Uh, they would have expected him to behave and conduct himself more professionally and effectively than he has.
	And look, I don't like discouraging any elderly person because of declining faculties.
	Many of us get there eventually, and it's a sad thing and not something to be mocked.
	And I'm not doing it in a mocking way.
	It's just not adequate to the job he holds.
	But nobody forces them to run for the presidency of the most powerful nation in the world.
	We only have a couple of minutes left, Lord Black.
	You dedicate a large chunk of the article to the special prosecutors, as somebody who intimately understands the vicissitudes of the judicial system in America.
	The idea that somebody who is a former mentee of Christopher Wray is allegedly now the man who will investigate the Mar-a-Lago raid, What do you think of the whole Office of Special Prosecutor?
	I think it's a disgrace, and I think it's always been a disgrace.
	And everyone who's held it has been a disgrace, at least at the presidential level.
	Archibald Cox, Nixon was right to fire him.
	He was extremely biased.
	The one I knew was Ken Starr, and he was the best of them, but even he, I thought, was too zealous.
	I thought Mr. Walsh in the Iran-Contra thing was an apparently reasonable man who just became a raving lunatic once he got that position.
	And it's a reprehensible function.
	It need not exist.
	And it is almost always abused.
	But what we have now is a complete fraud.
	Joint Equal Opportunity Special Prosecutors for potential offenses that don't exist.
	The possibility that either president committed crimes over retention of documents Uh, as president, or in Biden's case, vice president, the chances of it are zero.
	Absolutely zero.
	And as far as Trump's concerned, these are just lies.
	Can I make one suggestion as to a special prosecutor who served with honor, Joe DiGenoa?
	Yeah, I'd forgotten him.
	Absolutely.
	The exception makes the rule.
	A great American.
	We've been talking to our regular special guest.
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	As ever, you are right, the exception proves the rule.
	We've been talking to our regular special guest.
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	Oh, I have a recommendation that you check out Gibbs Arms.
	They make the side reciprocating or non reciprocating charging handle on the AR.
	Gibbs Arms?
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	Yeah, customer of theirs and I follow them and they've been saying how they're at SHOT Show and I just recommend you guys hit by their booth.
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	Yeah, I just have uppers that they made, but they make their own complete weapons and they're the most ergonomic thing I've ever shot as far as an AR platform goes.
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	Blazing guns, Gorka.
	Wish I were there.
	I like that.
	Yes, indeed.
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	Well, I'm calling to disagree with Lady Antoinette's misplaced apology last week.
	How dare you disagree with Antoinette?
	She's one of our stalwarts.
	I thought you were friends with Antoinette?
	I am, and I love her and adore her.
	But when she regretted having said that a court-ordered execution of murderers of children was somehow a mistake, that I disagree with.
	Hang on, hang on, that's not it.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	You can't quote Antoinette out of context on my show.
	She wasn't saying a general comment about court-ordered executions.
	She was talking about what?
	She was talking about a specific member of Congress and that's a no-no.
	But I know that she would want it to be litigated first through a court.
	It wouldn't be, you know, a renegade thing.
	But execution of murderers is exactly what God does in fact command of the righteous.
	And God commanded, thou shalt not murder.
	He never said not to kill, as when Kyle Rittenhouse righteously killed his evil attacker, or when waging legitimate warfare against Nazi socialists or CCP Maoists.
	Yeah, he did.
	Carl Rittenhouse defended himself when three men tried to murder him.
	But she made a specific comment about a specific member of Congress.
	I think that is a tad beyond the pale.
	But anyway, it's not up to us to decide.
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	It is called Springfield Armory.
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	We have with us the immediate relations manager, Mike Humphries.
	Mike!
	Welcome back to America First!
	Pleasure to be here, Dr. Gorka.
	Thank you.
	Right, so, I don't know if it was a joke or whether it's serious, but in the break you said, like, you've got to slow down a bit at Springfield because you were having, like, new products every 48 seconds for the last year.
	You're slowing down.
	Now it's every, you know, 52 seconds.
	Let's talk about some of them.
	Let's work in reverse order.
	One of the, you know, It's crept up quietly on us, suddenly announced, thought it's super cool, but it's a little bit quirky, it's a little bit different.
	PCCs have been the rage, so that's pistol calibre carbines, not a rifle calibre like a .308 or .556, but it's like a 9mm, it's a pistol calibre, very low recording.
	And you've got into the game with the St.
	Victor, right?
	We do.
	You just had to be bloody-minded iconoclast.
	You couldn't go with the, it's gotta take a Glock mag, did you, right?
	No, we like to mix it up a little bit.
	We like, you know, obviously we want to make the right decision, make the right product decisions about it, and what we decided with the configuration of this gun, I think, was the best possible choice.
	So what we're talking about is the St.
	Victor 9mm carbine, and it feeds from Colt pattern magazines.
	So like, if you're not familiar, the Colt SMG, the Colt submachine gun, and the nice thing about those mags, They're made of metal.
	Right?
	Yes.
	Is that why you did it?
	They have a couple advantages.
	They are easily and readily accessible, they're reasonably priced, they are ruggedly built, and they also allowed us to integrate a bolt lock hold open in the design, which is not entirely common in PCC 9mm ARs.
	Which means when the mag is empty, the bolt doesn't go forward and you go click, it actually stays open.
	Yep, it lets you know when the gun is empty and makes reloads much, much easier.
	And super lightweight.
	I've tried it out.
	I've shot the gun.
	Let's put the gun up here.
	This is me with the Saint Victor.
	Slim line.
	Very portable.
	Very lightweight.
	And it can actually shoot.
	Let's put the target up as well.
	This was me last weekend.
	That is, if you can see the hole there in his forehead.
	Yeah, he's in trouble, thanks to that Springfield Armory Saint Victor.
	But, the big news is, you got into the double stack 1911 and 2011 market.
	I did.
	I think you can't make enough of this weapon.
	What is that weapon, Mike?
	So we have introduced the 1911 DS Prodigy.
	So 1911 DS stands for double stack, which you touched on, and Prodigy is the model.
	So what you're looking at with the 1911 DS, there are two models.
	There's a five inch and there's a four and a quarter inch.
	And I believe, have we gotten any of those into your hands?
	Yeah, the full size.
	You did?
	Okay, good, good.
	Basically what you're looking at with that gun is, I believe the MSRP is $14.99 for that gun, and you are getting a lot of gun for a lot less money than you would for a lot of competitors.
	Right, because the 2011, the double-stacked 1911, for the longest time, has been a very expensive, high-end, competitive shooter kind of gun, not for the average American.
	No, they could have high price points.
	And what we try to do is through the ability of economy and scale and the way that we make things, and it's not like Springfield Armory doesn't have a strong background in 1911s.
	We're well known for that.
	Yeah, going back a while.
	So we were able to leverage our expertise and knowledge in that in economy of scale to be able to get customers a very high quality gun at a very reasonable price.
	But you were saying in the break that a lot of people are using this as the basis for customizing.
	Yes, because if you're coming out of the gate at an MSRP of $1,500, you can put another $1,000 or $1,500 into it, still get in for a really good price and get a highly customized tricked out gun.
	But, as it comes from the factory, we like to think that it's a pretty solid gun on its own with a flush-fit 17-round magazine.
	The thing I liked about it is the grip texture.
	It's just, it's not too aggressive, not too mild.
	That polymer overlay, it just works.
	And it basically is the same texture as on our very popular Hellcat pistol, the adaptive grip texture.
	And the use of that polymer module allows it to be thin enough so that gun is roughly the same size and grip circumference as one of our single stack guns.
	What are you thinking or what are you seeing?
	I know you can't make them fast enough.
	Is this being picked up as a beauty weapon?
	Is this the average concealed carrier range gun or three?
	I would say all of the above.
	I think it has competitive shooting qualities and benefits.
	We've heard some, you know, law enforcement officers have shown a lot of interest in that pattern of gun.
	I also think it's a great range gun and if you have the right holster and you're a big enough guy, you could even concealed carry one of these guns.
	We do have the four and a quarter inch, which is, which is a much, it's a reasonably more compact version of the gun.
	What do you see in the market for the longest time?
	It was micro, you know, nines like your own Hellcat.
	Is that still very, very much on the cutting edge?
	Yes.
	I think that the 1911 DS Prodigy kind of gets us into a different market.
	Like, there is the micro-compact 9mm Hellcat, which is its own animal.
	But with the 1911 DS, I think we're taking the 1911 that's popular with a lot of traditionalists, and maybe I think we're introducing it to a slightly younger crowd, in addition to maybe the guys who already like it, because it runs like a 1911.
	The controls are the same.
	You'd be right at home with it.
	Yeah, not bad.
	I mean, John Burton and Moses Browning came up with that over a hundred years ago.
	Is that crazy?
	Yeah.
	Has some legs to it, doesn't it?
	That's a double stack.
	A little bit of, you know, upgrade.
	A little bit of polymer, you know, grid panels.
	But that guy was a genius.
	From the M1, to the lever action, to the 1911, on and on and on.
	A legend.
	It's Springfield Armory.
	Check out the website.
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	If you've had enough of gun content, it's OK.
	The next hour, special one-on-one with the best expert on the socialist threat to America, Paul Kengor.
	Don't go anywhere.
	He will be with us for the whole hour talking about the threat to America.
	But let's talk about the threat to America and our Second Amendment rights with the man, the legend, at Breitbart.com.
	He is Mr. Second Amendment, my buddy A.W.R.
	Hawkins.
	Are we having fun at Shaw Show?
	Sebastian, we're having a blast.
	Good to be with you.
	What a radio voice.
	That is amazing.
	I have to say one thing.
	We didn't rehearse any of this.
	We just grabbed you, saw you there.
	When this brace thing hit, the ban from the ATF a few days ago, and there was coverage everywhere and Twitter exploded, yours was the only, of course, yours was the only stinking article That made sense in about 300 words out of the 400 page ATF ruling.
	So thank you for being that kind of voice of clarity, AWR.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Alright, so is this going to float?
	Are we going to see any pushback?
	Do we have to wait for court cases?
	Are they going to turn up to 30 million Americans into felons overnight by the ATF banning this product that is completely legal?
	Right.
	Well, I think we have two approaches.
	I think you know.
	Congress is thinking about using the Congressional Review Act.
	And I've talked to a few off the record.
	Let me just tell you, I have great confidence that in the House, that's going to see the day of light.
	Really?
	I should say light of day.
	Excuse me.
	The tool that he came up with.
	They're going to use this.
	And I know you understand it, and probably most of the listeners do, but for the sake of those who don't, you know in this nation we have judicial review.
	And what the Congressional Review Act does is it gives Congress that type of review.
	They get a 60- to 90-day window of time in which they can take some action there.
	So they're going to look at this.
	We've got a few seconds left.
	What's the other scenario?
	The other scenario is the Second Amendment Foundation has already filed suit in Texas, which is in the Fifth Circuit, the very circuit that just threw out the bump stock ban.
	Nice.
	And the language in the bump stock ban and the brace ban, some of it's interchangeable, Sebastian.
	So they're in trouble?
	The ATF's in trouble?
	The ATF should be in trouble.
	When it gets to Fifth Circuit, no way should they be able to survive.
	No way.
	So do you feel confident?
	I do, but the problem is what do we do between the time we have to register and that moment?
	Right.
	Well, guys, get busy.
	Tell your senator, tell your congressman, join one of the real gun associations.
	The NRA doesn't have it anymore, I'm sad to say.
	He's AWR Hawkins.
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	Best of the Yuletide season to you and yours.
	It's always a lot of fun to get our guests on the One on One.
	People who make regular appearances on our national show.
	But when we want to go a little bit deeper, behind the curtain of the big stories of the day, that's what One on One is for.
	And I'm delighted to have with us, from Grove City College, Professor Paul Kengor, who is the newly minted editor of the American Spectator.
	Paul, welcome back to America First, this time one-on-one.
	It's always good to be with you, Seb.
	Thank you very much.
	Can I do something amusing first?
	Can I just share with you one of my early Christmas gifts?
	Please do.
	It arrived yesterday from one of our best, best advertisers called Midas Gold.
	It's called Jabby the Elf.
	It has a swastika on it made of syringes.
	And if you open Jabby the Elf, It's not something I'm necessarily going to put on my Christmas tree, but it is rather apposite for what we are going to discuss right now.
	We have, actually made out of China, it's nicely done, and the resemblance is quite shocking.
	We have little Fauci Jabby the Elf.
	Isn't that frightening, Paul?
	No, it's made out of China, not in China.
	I don't know!
	That's a very good question.
	It could be both.
	It could be both.
	But anyway, I wanted to share that with you given what we've suffered under the last two years.
	I shared that with our listeners yesterday.
	But given what we have witnessed in the last two years and the connection to communist China, your skills are needed more than ever as the preeminent expert on communism, the history of socialism in the 20th century.
	Let's begin with Putting it into the current context of politics in America, this is a very outspoken individual who in a couple of days time will be sworn in as the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee on Capitol Hill in the House, none other than Jim Jordan.
	This just shows big tech, big media, big government working together to keep information from we the people.
	That's the problem.
	What I'm committed to doing, what the Republican members of the judiciary are committed to do is get into the FBI's role in all this.
	Those weekly briefings they were doing with big tech on the heels of that letter from 51 former intel officials that said it was a Russian disinformation operation.
	Baloney.
	They knew it was baloney and yet they were doing these briefings.
	So that's the big problem.
	I'm going to tax you now with a classroom question that I think we have to grapple with.
	Katie, my wife, just wrote a long paper on this issue, Cultural Marxism in America.
	You can download it at the Heritage Foundation, heritage.org.
	But the taxonomy, the challenge of socialism or left-wing radicalism today is very different from your expertise in the Cold War.
	And of course, I grew up in the Cold War.
	I think we're about the same age.
	I miss it immensely.
	I served in the British Territorial Army, you know, with a post-Cold War mission.
	But back then, the communists, for the most part, were over there.
	You could, you know, point at Moscow, point at the Warsaw Pact.
	You could have a brave president stand at the Brandenburg Gate and say, the evil empire must tear down this wall.
	The threat of communism, Paul, has transmogrified.
	It has changed.
	The Marxists aren't over there in the second world.
	They're here.
	They're the BLM organizers, the quote, trained ideologues.
	They're the people in Palo Alto at Twitter colluding with the FBI to gin up these fake accusations of collusion.
	So have you spent any time thinking on What lessons of the Cold War we can use and which don't really translate because now the Marxist threat is Americans on American soil.
	Yeah, it's really true.
	In fact, Mark Levin calls it American Marxism.
	I did a review of Mark Levin's book.
	for American Spectator about a year ago.
	And I pointed out in that review, Seb, that indeed what we're dealing with today is a uniquely American form of Marxism, right?
	I mean, the original Marxism from the 1840s, it's funny that you're asking this because I got a text message today from another talk show host who's reading the Communist Manifesto.
	He said, "I'm confused.
	How does Marx get from serfdom to the bourgeoisie, right?
	And I said, well, first of all, don't take him too seriously.
	And then remember, too, that book, man, was written for the 1840s, right?
	The 1840s.
	And I tell this to modern Marxists all the time.
	Dude, it's the 2020s.
	Look out your window.
	You're not looking at Britain or Germany or France in the Industrial Revolution in 1848.
	Oftentimes, you'll hear people say, well, Marx might have been wrong about this and that.
	But he did get right the fact that there were abusive working conditions in the Industrial Revolution.
	Well, so what?
	So did a whole bunch of people.
	Charles Dickens had that right, right?
	But you don't need to go and create this entire new ideology and so forth and so forth.
	But anyway, the point is, we here today in America today, We're not dealing with that paradigm.
	We're not dealing with that structure.
	My friend Sam Gregg of the Acton Institute said the most difficult thing about cultural Marxism is that a lot of the people that are engaging in what is cultural Marxism don't even realize that they are.
	And if you said to them, if you said, you know, what you're doing is really a kind of Marxism applied to culture.
	It could be defined as a kind of cultural Marxism.
	They give you a blank stare.
	And probably rightly so.
	And as Sam Gregg points out, the people behind the Berlin Wall knew they were behind a Berlin Wall, right?
	They knew what was repressing them.
	They knew that it was this kind of classic Soviet style Economic Marxism.
	The people today, though, that are being repressed or affected by Marxism, they often don't even know it, and neither do many of the perpetrators.
	Wow, wow.
	Yeah, I know, Sam Gregg, and that's a very good observation that most of the people facilitating this are what we call in the Cold War, useful idiots.
	They don't even know that they're part of this machine.
	Let's go back and be clear about the origins of all this, because yes, the Das Kapital and the Communist Manifesto are 19th century, 1848.
	I mean, these are old documents.
	However, at the time, They sold it, Marx and Engels, as a science.
	They said this is a scientific thing.
	It's socialist science and it is progression towards the end state of equality.
	It's of course all garbage.
	There's nothing empirical, nothing scientific about it.
	But as James Lindsay pointed out just a week ago here on this show, what we've seen of it today, what we've seen it develop into, It's not even an ideology or just a political framework anymore.
	He sees it as a cult, and I tend to agree, because it demands blind loyalty.
	There's something pseudo-religious when you look at what it has become today, if we want to use the label woke.
	Is there not something pseudo-religious, which is ironic given what Marx said about religion being the opiate of the masses?
	In fact, Raymond Aaron called it the opium of the intellectuals.
	Ronald Reagan used to say, yeah, Marxism-Leninism, that religion of theirs, and they treated it like a religion.
	You're right.
	In fact, the Soviets talked about what they called scientific socialism, scientific Marxism.
	At the eulogy for Marx's funeral in 1883, his cohort, his partner, Ingalls quoted Darwin.
	He said that Marx is doing for the social sciences what Darwin did for the natural sciences.
	So they saw this kind of literal scientific evolution.
	So society would pass from A series of different stages, from slavery to feudalism, to capitalism, to socialism, to communism.
	It would go through these various stages.
	So they tried to apply a scientific veneer to this progression.
	They were atheists, they were materialists, So they didn't believe that there was a providential hand guiding events, but some sort of an evolutionary hand.
	But at the same time, they treated it like a religion.
	You read Arthur Kessler's Darkness at Noon.
	Read the book The God That Failed.
	In fact, read Arthur Kessler's essay in The God That Failed.
	And he talks about how, for the Marxist, a whole new universe opens up.
	After that, you were completely brought into the faith.
	All the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle come together.
	One cannot explain the sort of rapture that the convert feels when he sees the light.
	So they truly did treat it like a religion.
	Pope Benedict XVI said, For these folks, it was like Marxism would be the new Jerusalem, the heaven on earth.
	So ironically, they made fun of religious people.
	They called them superstitious idiots.
	Medieval mildew is what Lenin called religion.
	There is nothing more abominable than religion, he said.
	But at the same time, they treated it like a religion and they themselves were like religious adherents.
	Indeed, the opium of the intellectuals.
	Yes, indeed.
	Yes, indeed.
	And Arthur Koestler, who was a communist in Hungary, who saw the light.
	His book, Darkness at Noon, is a very, very, very short book.
	It is worth everybody's time if you want to understand what's happening to America right now.
	We're talking to Paul Kengo, Professor Paul Kengo.
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	Now, Paul, you're an academic.
	You teach.
	You're a professor.
	You run an institute at Grove City.
	You're now the new editor of American Spectator.
	Let me get your response to something that we discussed with Professor Lindsay, I think it was last time, that yes, you said so many people ...are promoting this new version of Marxism, whatever you want to call it.
	Post-Gramscian, wokeism, what have you.
	And often they don't understand.
	They think they're just doing whatever, social justice.
	They have no idea that this is in fact communism.
	My contention, and he agreed, but you're right there in the trenches teaching, is that when you talk to these twenty-somethings or even thirty-somethings, yes they are indoctrinated, yes they're told this is the only way to social justice, to have not even equality, now it's forced equity.
	However, Unlike the Soviet Union or the Warsaw Pact, the indoctrination pool is incredibly shallow.
	They can quote the Nostrums, they can quote the boilerplate, but if you give them any meaningful challenge to try and justify what they're doing or the lack of Equality, that it actually necessitates to enforce equity, everything crumbles.
	Is it truly a very shallow indoctrination?
	Where do you stand on this issue?
	Yeah, it really is.
	An infamous quote from Lenin.
	Lenin said, give me four years with a child and the seed that I had planted will never be uprooted.
	And that's a real quote from Lenin.
	And so four years, it's a time to get a college degree.
	But I would say that students that were studying Marxism 100 years ago, who joined the Communist Youth League, and then went on the Communist Party USA, they were much more steeped in what they were reading, what they were learning.
	They actually knew Marx, they actually knew Lenin.
	And today, you're right, Seb, it is really shallow.
	I've been I've been going around since the early 2000s speaking for YAF, Young America's Foundation, also ISI, Intercollegiate Studies Institute, giving a speech, a talk called, Why Communism is Bad.
	And I've gotten so many emails, and you should see my box.
	From students kind of desperate pleading from, you know, this or that university saying, dear professor, I saw I saw your lecture on YouTube.
	I see that this is up at YAF.
	Could you please come to our college?
	Because we've got we've got an economics professor who literally has a bust of Karl Marx in the office.
	I come in and I speak in these rooms, Seb, and first of all, there's never any professors in there.
	The professors don't even come.
	But the room's usually packed.
	And I got to tell you, in all honesty, I've never been harassed.
	I've never been shouted down, maybe because I bring a stack of books.
	I'll bring a copy of the Communist Manifesto.
	I bring the Harvard University Press book, The Black Book of Communism.
	I bring Alexander Yakovlev's Yale University Press book, A Century of Violence in Soviet Russia, Solzhenitsyn, and on and on.
	And I just give these students facts, and you can tell they've never heard this stuff before.
	I spoke at a really elite university—I shouldn't name it, I won't, I'll get in trouble—in Pennsylvania last May, and two students came up.
	I spoke on Marx's personal life, On how Marx was a racist and anti-Semite, all these other things.
	And they came up and they said, we just had a full semester course on Marxism, taught by two economics professors, and we've never heard any of this.
	And we did not have to read the Communist Manifesto.
	I said, what did you read?
	And they said, just kind of like various excerpts from different articles.
	And really, we just took notes from what the professors talked about.
	So it was really shallow.
	Here's the good news.
	When you confront them with facts and with data, they're smart.
	They're not dumb.
	They usually have good minds.
	They have high IQs.
	They can think.
	They can rationalize.
	When you hit them with this information, they are riveted.
	The hands are up in the air, they're asking the questions, and it doesn't take them long to say, man, we've been duped, we've been had, we've been misinformed.
	This is like, to use a Soviet word, desinformatsiya.
	This is like disinformation that we've been receiving.
	It doesn't take them long at all for the light bulbs to go off.
	The only key is, if you can even get somebody You know, of my views to speak to them in the four years that they're at that university.
	Most of them are going to have to learn it when they leave.
	But you're right, it's very shallow.
	It's very shallow.
	They Are Dupes, which is a good title for a book.
	In fact, it's my favorite book by Paul Kengor.
	He's written so many.
	Let me just rattle through some of the titles that are worth your time.
	Dupes, How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century.
	God and Ronald Reagan, The Politically Incorrect Guide to Communism, that's a really fun one, A Pope and a President, John Paul II, Ronald Reagan, and The Devil and Karl Marx, and we'll be talking about his most recent book in a moment.
	But very briefly, I think for me it's a life-changing book.
	Would you say a few words on The Black Book of Communism?
	Yeah, and thanks for plugging all those stocking stuffers.
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	But yeah, the Black Book of Communism came out at the end of the last century, 1998-99.
	It was translated by Harvard University Press.
	It was originally published in French.
	Stéphane Courtois was the editor, and all the different chapters were written by and large by leftists, former leftists, and ex-communists who said, look, we've got to come to terms with the fact that we were sympathetic to or supported a communist ideology, which was an absolute killing machine.
	Right?
	They knew that this was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people, if not a hundred million people.
	One of the things they set out to do in that 800-page book was try to put an estimate, a tag, on just how many people died from communism.
	But country by country.
	That's the stunning thing.
	These are socialist Historians, sociologists, chapter by chapter, from Tsarist Russia to Cambodia, country by country, and it is a truly academic work.
	It changed the lives of the authors, Courtois included, and they came up with the seminal number that in the 20th century a hundred million people were murdered in the name of Marxist ideology.
	So if you haven't read it, It is a reference work and it's the empirical evidence of just how lethal this idea is.
	That's the Black Book of Communism edited by Stephen Courtois.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	That's okay.
	In the 100 million figure, China is 62 or 65 million.
	And Russia is only 20 or 25 million.
	And in fact, Solzhenitsyn and others, Robert Conquest from Hoover, You know, they say 60-70 million.
	Alexander Yakovlev's Yale University Press Book, A Century of Violence in Soviet Russia, which came out 2003 or 2004, he was Gorbachev's chief reformer, and he was given the job of counting the skulls.
	at the end of the Cold War and trying to find out how many people were killed.
	And Yakovlev, Seb, says in that book that, quote, Stalin alone annihilated 60 to 70 million people, unquote.
	So the real numbers, it's a minimum of 100 million.
	The Black Book underestimated the number of deaths in Korea, North Korea.
	So it's probably more like 130, 140 million, which would be double the combined death tolls of World War I and World War II.
	Correct.
	Yeah, correct.
	It was 60 million that died in World War II, so at least 100 million, if not 200 million killed.
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	One person I want to talk about before we get to your latest book.
	Will you explain why, and it's the person, you know, even most educated conservatives have never heard of, which is, you know, shocking.
	Why is Antonio Gramsci, this crippled Italian communist, perhaps the most important thinker when it comes to modernizing Karl Marx's thinking?
	Yeah, in fact, my friend Sam Grego, I quoted earlier, calls Gramsci the most influential socialist ever.
	And he was an Italian Marxist.
	So he was prior to the Frankfurt School.
	In fact, he wasn't part of the Frankfurt School.
	He was thrown in jail by Mussolini and Gramsci's prison notebooks are really kind of the seminal work on Marxism applied to culture.
	And by the way, Seb, the editor of the Columbia University Press published Prison Notebooks of Gramsci was a fellow by the name of Joseph Buttigieg, who's the father of Pete.
	In fact, Pete is acknowledged and thanked in the book by his father.
	Pete's father, Joe, who's at Notre Dame, did this at Notre Dame, was the founder and president of the International Gramsci Society.
	When he died, for more than a year, there was a eulogy in memoriam page on the opening URL of americansocialists.org.
	So, you know, Pete Buttigieg's father is worshipped by the communists of America.
	Explain what it was about Gramsci's updating of Marx that was so important in Western countries, in advanced countries like America.
	Well, he's credited with a phrase that he didn't actually say.
	A German communist in the 60s named Rudi Deutschke.
	I'm not sure how to pronounce his last name.
	Deutschke.
	Rudi Deutschke.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And it's a phrase about the long march through the institution.
	So the idea of applying this form of Marxism to education, to media, to communications—in other words, move it from the factory floor to the university classroom.
	By the way, let me say here too, if you go to American Spectator, I've written two articles a couple of years ago called Cultural Marxism and Its Conspirators, Part One and Part Two.
	I go through this very carefully, and your wife has too, Seb.
	But the phrase cultural Marxism, if you look it up on Wikipedia or whatever, Google, it says something like anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.
	Oh, hang on, hang on.
	It's better than that.
	James Lindsay told me a few months ago, the entry for cultural Marxism on Wikipedia has been deleted, Paul.
	Yeah, yeah, it has.
	It has indeed.
	And I could really talk a lot about this.
	In fact, I wrote a third piece on it for American Spectator.
	I had a group of Grove City College alumni, left-of-center alumni, go after me because they used that definition of cultural Marxism and assumed that I was pushing an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.
	I emailed one of them and said, man, if you would have just done a search of my name, you would have seen that I wrote about it as a conspiracy theory.
	Look at this!
	If you don't like the term cultural Marxism, Okay, it's Marxism applied to culture, okay?
	Alright?
	It's stepping beyond the class strictures that, you know, Marxism is just based on a class interpretation.
	It goes beyond that.
	Yeah, and the people, the practitioners and founders actually use the phrase cultural Marxism.
	I mean, go and read the books by Adorno and Horkheimer and the others from the Frankfurt School.
	We're dealing with people at Wikipedia and Google.
	Talk about shallow, right?
	To have some faceless millennial give a definition, quote unquote, of cultural Marxism that they clearly know nothing Nothing about.
	And by the way, end up smearing not just people like myself and others who are writing about this, but a lot of leftist writers.
	I mean, you know, there are leftists who've written books on this subject.
	Occidental College, Obama's alma mater, in the critical theory, Department of Critical Theory, had this page where they talked about cultural Marxism.
	They used all these different words.
	And I noticed that about two years ago, it's been scrubbed.
	They took it all down because they realized at some point, wow, these screwy people on the left are going to end up calling us anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.
	We better take down the word cultural Marxism.
	Well, when they don't have anything else, they resort to the ad hominem and they resort to the word racist and bigot, which sadly, They have denuded of any content.
	We're talking to Grove City College professor Paul Kangor, author of The Devil and Bella Dodd.
	We're going to discuss who Bella Dodd is next here on America First.
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	It's quite ironic that this book is freshly published.
	As a good friend of the show, Paul was defrocked from the Catholic Church, Father Frank Pavone, for Crimes that have not actually been enunciated by the Vatican, a strong conservative, a very strong pro-life advocate.
	This book has some shocking things to say about the infiltration of the religious establishment in the United States, does it not?
	Yeah, it sure does.
	And really to segue from what you said before about the name calling, the things that they engage in, Bella Dodd was like a female Whitaker Chambers.
	And when she left the party in June 1948, she gets a call at her home from an AP reporter who says, Dr. Dodd, we have a statement here from the Communist Party.
	It says that you are anti-Negro, anti-Puerto Rican, anti-Semitic, pro-fascist, pro-Nazi.
	Do you have a statement to make, ma'am?
	Right?
	And it's just, it's exactly what they, I mean, they've been doing this for a hundred years.
	I mean, this is, that's page one of the playbook.
	As soon as they want to go after you, they just go, Oh, page one.
	What does this say?
	Oh, oh, I see.
	Racist!
	It's the Alinsky tactics of isolate, triangulate, and then destroy.
	That's the Alinsky left-wing tactics, whether it's Bella Dodd in the 50s, whether it's Whitaker Chambers in the 60s, it doesn't matter.
	So tell us a little bit about this woman's journey and what made her see the light.
	Yeah, by the way, Alinsky said that the reason he never joined the Communist Party He could never subject himself to Communist Party discipline.
	And the Communist Party discipline was brutal.
	If you broke ranks, that's what they did to you.
	But she joined the party in the 1930s, really joined formally in 1943 when she became a card-carrying communist, because at that point everyone knew that she was.
	She was one of the highest-ranking women in the party, if not the highest-ranking woman in the party.
	She ran the teachers union.
	She ran the education front.
	She said this under Senate testimony.
	The FBI said this in FBI reports.
	Out of 10,000 members of the New York State Teachers Union, Bella Dodd placed 1,000 to 1,500 communists.
	She had 500 communist teachers marching in the May Day 1936 parade in New York City.
	So she was a master organizer, master infiltrator, the Longshoremen's Union, all sorts of other groups.
	And at one point, and really this is the heart of our book, they went to her and she said that she helped, quote, place over a thousand communist men, unquote, in Catholic seminaries.
	Now, this shouldn't shock people because the party was already doing this to the Methodist Church, the Episcopal Church, the Presbyterian Church.
	This was testified under oath to Congress by former communists Ben Gitlow, Manning Johnson, Louis Boudin, Zedder, the Daily Worker, all these others.
	But in Bella's case, they actually went after the Catholic Church and Catholic seminaries.
	It's an extraordinary story.
	So let me ask you.
	An up-to-date political question.
	So back then it's clear what we're talking about is the Communist Party.
	It's the underground Communist Party and its front organizations that were the threat.
	Today, the formal Communist Party in America is risible.
	It's a joke.
	It's not really a thing.
	You have the Democratic Socialists of America.
	You have the DSA.
	But is there an epicenter for the new ideological threat?
	Is it simply the colleges?
	Is it the teacher training academies?
	Because it's not the Communist Party as was in the 40s and 50s.
	At some point there was a transition.
	What is, to use a military term, the center of gravity for this ideological entity today, in your opinion?
	Yeah, and the underground party in Honolulu was called the Church by Frank Marshall Davis, who was Barack Obama's mentor.
	His CPUSA number was 47544.
	The man on whose knee Obama bounced and admits this whilst not using his real name in his autobiography.
	That's exactly right.
	He called him only Frank in the autobiography.
	But Communist Party USA today has about 5,000 members.
	That's it.
	And really where the action is, and they now have almost 100,000 what they literally call comrades, are the Democratic Socialists of America.
	That's the group of AOC, Ilhan Omar, Cori Bush, Rashida Tlaib, and several other members of Congress that have been elected.
	By the way, you Democrats listening to me, listen carefully, because if you're informed, you know this.
	By the way, Nancy Pelosi knows this, and so do a lot of other moderate Democrats.
	These DSA members get elected by primarying moderate Democrats.
	They don't run in safe Republican districts.
	Here in Pennsylvania, they beat people like the Costa brothers, who were like traditional Catholic Democrats from Western Pennsylvania.
	So that's where the action is.
	And then beyond that, there are what People's World, which is the successor publication to The Daily Worker, calls culture workers.
	And isn't that funny, right, Seb?
	They're not calling for steel workers.
	They're not calling for minors.
	They've given up on truckers, right?
	Those are all, you know, Trump, MAGA, Neanderthals in their view, right?
	They want culture workers.
	They want people at Starbucks and the universities and the coffee shops.
	That's where they're going.
	So, so, you know, they're always looking for the proletariat, Martin Malia used to say, would be both the victim class and the redeemer class.
	They're looking today always for new victim groups to fight the culture war, the culture battles.
	It might be on gender, it might be on race, it might be LGBTQ, but they're looking more broadly.
	And sometimes, again, the people that get involved in these things and duped by them don't even know that they're engaging in this kind of Marxism applied to culture or gender or race or whatever else.
	It's so fascinating.
	You can't call them cultural Marxists, that's racist, but they are recruiting people to be cultural activists.
	That tells you everything you need to know.
	He's a co-author with Mary Nichols of The Devil and Bella Dodd and numerous other works that are all worth your time.
	Please read the American Spectator, spectator.org.
	We're talking to our good friend Professor Paul Kangor, one-on-one.
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	Right, the big question for the man who understands the history of this ideological threat, not just to America but to Western civilization. - Yeah.
	How perturbed are you, Professor Kengor, when you see the revelations of just the last few days, last few weeks, of the most powerful law enforcement agency in America, colluding with its ideological bedfellows in Palo Alto to censor those who politically disagree with them.
	It seems as if conservatives are being targeted day in, day out, whether it's Republicans, pro-life activists, members of the President's family, people who worked for President Trump.
	This isn't communism a la the Cold War, but how disturbed are you in terms of what we already have witnessed?
	Well, let me throw it back at the left with communism and the Cold War.
	They despise J. Edgar Hoover, don't they, Seb?
	Yes.
	What did they hate him for?
	They hated him for investigating communism.
	Working with the Kennedys to wiretap Martin Luther King Jr.
	That was Robert F. Kennedy and John F. Kennedy who did that, right?
	They hated Hoover for all kinds of things.
	What did they do to him?
	They called him a transvestite.
	They called him a homosexual.
	They gay-bashed, right?
	That's what the left did, right?
	J. Edgar Hoover was a cross-dresser!
	Right?
	They smear the guy for going after communists and doing all the other things that he was doing.
	But Hoover ran a clean FBI.
	It was non-ideological.
	Oh, yeah, I guess it was ideological in that it was anti-communist, but that's okay, right?
	It's American to be anti-communist, all right?
	But to see these agencies today being used and manipulated And I'm so glad that Elon Musk is outing some of the things that happened at Twitter that we knew were happening at Twitter.
	The left squawks all the time about democracy, democracy, democracy.
	Well, you can't have a freely functioning democracy if these kind of platforms of influence are gotten a hold of by ideologues on the hard left who censor people they disagree with.
	That's not democracy.
	Now, these regimes, if you look at the Soviet Union, if you look at the Warsaw Pact, sooner or later the House of Cards collapses.
	We're still waiting for that to happen in China, Cuba, North Korea, but does this system here in America, will this new form of communism, of Marxism, does it have to eventually collapse because of its inherent contradictions, Paul?
	Well, that's what Ronald Reagan said, right?
	That communism would collapse on its own weight, its inherent contradictions.
	He said, I was shocked to learn that the Soviet system was held together by bailing wire, right?
	You just cut it loose and the whole thing would fall apart.
	But the difficulty today, and I go back again to what Sam Gregg said about the most dangerous socialist in history, Antonio Gramsci, is that a lot of the people today that are engaging in this Marxism applied to culture, gender, race, everything else, they don't even know that they're engaged in it.
	And so it's much more difficult to stop.
	Reagan in the 80s could lay out with Bill Clark and Bill Casey and Cap Weinberger and others a plan of 10, 12, Different steps, efforts, programs, SDI, evil empire speech, Brandenburg Gate, right?
	Placing INF missiles in Europe.
	All these different things to try to reverse Soviet communism.
	Richard Pipes, right?
	NSDD-66, NSDD-75.
	But how do you fight this?
	How do you fight this?
	How do you tell the people that are engaging in this to stop it when they don't even know they're engaging in it?
	So in a way, it's much more difficult and insidious today.
	He's the director for the Institute for Faith and Freedom.
	Some of those answers are in my wife's new paper, Heritage.org, The Threat of Cultural Marxism, which is real.
	And the new book is The Devil and Bella Dodd.
	Merry Christmas to you, Professor Kengor, and your family.
	You've been listening to America First one-on-one.

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