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Dec. 27, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka LIVE: Rona gonna get the boot

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	Vladimir Putin.
	We do have a lot to talk about.
	And it's weird because this is the worst week to do radio.
	This is the week between my birthday, also Christmas.
	I was born the day before Christmas.
	And no, I didn't get one present.
	No one would ever dare do that.
	Although I did get this nice tie from my wife.
	So I'm wearing my green tie with my off-color blue jacket.
	So if you guys are watching on Rumble, and you should be watching on Rumble, you can appreciate the good taste of my beautiful ex-model Latina immigrant wife.
	Irina, who is out there somewhere, and she's probably like pounding her head into the dashboard as she listens to this, because she doesn't like when I call her hot, but she's totally hot.
	Like I said, I'm a trial lawyer in Los Angeles, guys.
	I am exactly that superficial.
	But anyway, this is a vast wasteland.
	To steal the image from Newton Manow, Back in the 50s, referring to television.
	It is a vast wasteland where there is no news.
	Except this year, guys.
	Stuff's going on.
	Stuff we've got to talk about.
	Stuff we will talk about.
	Let me tell you who I've got here to talk about it.
	Now, look, I'm amazing.
	Okay.
	I'm really funny.
	I'm the next stand-up comic.
	I'm a very good trial lawyer.
	And I am not modest, because I never met anyone who goes, Kurt, I want a modest trial lawyer.
	I figure modest people know something that I don't about them.
	And I could easily go talk for three full hours, but I'm not going to do that, folks, because I want to keep you on edge.
	I want to keep you excited.
	I want to keep you pumped.
	And I've got a bunch of guests.
	But our most important guest... Why, it's you.
	The audience member.
	And you can call me about anything you want.
	I'm not taking anything off the table.
	You can be as crazy and dumb and weird as you want.
	No obscenity.
	And no creepy grooming.
	833-33-GORKA.
	G-O-R-K-A.
	That is 833-33-G-O-R-K-A.
	G-O-R-K-A. That is 833-33-G-O-R-K-A.
	Call me up.
	We'll chat.
	But in the meantime, I've got amazing guests.
	Liv Sheld from American Greatness.
	She is hilarious and cool.
	Jen Van Laar, busting stories.
	Right?
	Investigative reporter.
	Killing it over at Red State.
	Her expose of Ronna McDaniel.
	And yes, we're going to talk a lot about Ronna McDaniel.
	Five-time failure Republican National Committee chairwoman.
	Naturally, she thinks, well, gosh, I need to go for zero and six!
	But we're going to, you know, us and the base, we're going to send a message and stop that.
	We're going to talk a lot about that.
	But anyway, Jen published an amazing expose of the failed finances of the RNC.
	You know how, you know how we could have probably used a little more money for guys like Blake and Carrie and other folks?
	Yeah, it went to flowers and Lulu lemons, which I'm informed are yoga pants.
	I don't know about you, but when I'm writing a check to a group that's defending our country, defending our liberty, defending our freedom from the assault these damn communists are waging on it, I'm not really intending to subsidize a lot of yoga pants.
	That's just me.
	If you feel differently, if you want to subsidize Uh, the, uh, GOP establishments, uh, Atleta Weir, Atleta Leisure Weir, Weir, Atleta Leisure Weir.
	If you want to do that, call me up, A3333, Gorka, G-O-R-K-A, and you can tell me, yes, Kurt, I support squandering our money on frivolous luxuries.
	I'd be interested in taking that call.
	A little later, Amanda Milius, who is a human fireball, she's all over this Rona McDaniel thing.
	We're gonna be talking a lot about that.
	And if you love Rona McDaniel, if you're saying, no, you know, she's failed five times in a row, she's been a total disaster for the GOP, botched it in 18, twice in 2020, twice in 2022, she has failed to bring in the win, I think she's due.
	I think she needs one more chance.
	If you're that person, give me a call.
	833-33-GORKA.
	I will serve as your therapist and find out just what the hell you're thinking.
	Carrie Pickett will be along.
	Another investigative report.
	She's got inside news about all sorts of stuff in D.C.
	You're going to love it.
	Of course, my Army buddy Jim Hansen will be along.
	He's guest hosting tomorrow and the next day.
	But we have a solemn promise.
	When one of us hosts for Dr. Gorka, the other comes on, and we, the host, have got to play straight man.
	So I'm going to try that.
	So we'll see how that goes.
	And then, of course, we'll have Ned Ryan, too.
	So we have a show packed with movers, shakers, and decision makers.
	I'm excited.
	You guys should be excited.
	This is going to be fantastic.
	And I especially like the chance...
	To talk about the failure of Rona McDaniel.
	And that failure was manifest earlier this week with the decision, the Carrie Lake election challenge.
	Now, I'm a trial lawyer.
	I actually went.
	I was lawyering for President Trump in Nevada.
	I saw some of the shenanigans that went on.
	Everybody was like, wow, you know, Carrie's put out a great case.
	She's got some incredible concessions by the bad guys.
	They've admitted a lot of things that were just not kosher.
	And we're totally gonna win.
	And I'm looking at this guy, no, you're not gonna win.
	And people are going, no, you see, the evidence and the facts show that.
	I'm like, stop.
	I am a trial.
	I do that for a living.
	Okay, what's the first, quick quiz, pop quiz, hot shot.
	I always like doing a speed callback every once in a while.
	Pop quiz.
	What is the first thing I do when a new case comes in?
	Whether I'm defense side, whether I'm plaintiff side.
	That is, sometimes I defend people.
	Like, everybody knows I defended Ben Shapiro in the Clockboy defamation lawsuit and won it.
	You don't know about most of the cases I bring for people because I'm the conservative lawyer who's kind of, I keep that on the down low.
	But people know when they need the lawyer, they call the K-Dawg, which is my street name.
	I've got a lot of incredible street credibility from my old rap time.
	Anyway, law stuff.
	I knew she was going to lose.
	The first thing I do when I get a case, who is the judge?
	Second thing, what is the procedural status?
	The procedural status in an election challenge is always this, right?
	You have to prove intent by clear and convincing evidence, and it isn't going to happen.
	You're always going to lose.
	I'm sorry.
	That's the way it is.
	Rona McDaniel should have had this stuff wired.
	She should have had a battalion of lawyers down there shaping the battlefield beforehand.
	She failed to do that, and she failed to do that in 2020.
	Had to pick up the pieces for it in 2020 with a bunch of other lawyers.
	And Kerry Lake had to try and pick up the pieces this year.
	Intolerable.
	I am Kurt Schlichter.
	This is America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	We'll be right back with the amazing Liz Scheld.
	Stick around.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Get a little Mr. Brightside in there, guys.
	Alright, were you able to hear the cues?
	Yeah.
	Okay, good.
	No, I got out on time.
	Our engineer didn't think you were here.
	No, I'm a radio professional guy.
	When I'm running my full mouth, I'm not going to go... No.
	No, I'm cool.
	I keep it cool.
	How was that monologue?
	I don't know what the hell that was about.
	You guys like the monologue?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, man.
	Yeah, that's great.
	You were amazing.
	Are we going out on Rumble?
	Because I want to make sure everybody's getting this gold.
	We should be.
	I started the stream.
	I don't know if Jeff has checked it yet.
	Jeff says we're good on the Rumble stream.
	Alright, look, I thought it was a good monologue.
	I know you guys are going, I don't know what the hell he's talking about.
	He's over here at a topic.
	He's over here.
	He's over here.
	I'm the ADHD guest host.
	Nobody puts Kurt in a corner.
	More than Hanson, huh?
	Oh, God.
	Hanson is rigorous.
	He's Hugh Hewitt compared to me.
	I am undisciplined.
	I am untamed.
	I cannot be broken.
	I'm like the wind.
	I don't know, do we get any calls?
	Yes, Jeff is taking care of it right now.
	Alright.
	Okay.
	Get a little call going.
	Do Liz Sheldon, then we'll do a couple calls.
	I have a... Alright, I got Liz on now.
	Hi Liz!
	Hello!
	How are you doing?
	I thought my monologue was amazing, but the crew is very reticent.
	How is it not amazing?
	I don't know.
	I didn't feel it, but I know it was amazing.
	Did you feel it?
	I did feel it.
	I felt like a shift in the universe, and I knew.
	Kurt's slaying it.
	He's slaying right now.
	The schlichter singularity.
	The Slickter Shells.
	Oh, I got this.
	Somebody's like, hey, do you have Liz Scheldt on every single time you do a show?
	And I'm like, yes.
	Who said that?
	Oh, somebody.
	Somebody.
	Somebody said or something, looking, investigating me.
	Somebody with three acronyms.
	Acronyms?
	Three acronyms?
	Pronouns?
	Three initials.
	Three pronouns.
	Oh my gosh, I annoyed somebody by, I made an Elizabeth Warren joke and I said his, her, or howls.
	Okay.
	I know.
	It could be.
	It was some, oh my God, we got to talk about it.
	I'll tell you about it on air.
	It's funny.
	I challenged her to come on this show.
	Maria Casabas.
	Casbas.
	I don't know who the hell that is.
	Okay.
	It's some fringy, some fringy MSNBC.
	It could be, it could be.
	So.
	It's about, we were talking about Santos on Twitter.
	We gotta talk about George Santos.
	It's great.
	I love this guy.
	He's my new hero.
	I totally should have called him up.
	I admit, this is Kurt Schlicker.
	I'd love you to be on America First.
	Okay!
	I had a radio show myself once!
	That's, that's, George, come on.
	This is Kurt, your time.
	Chill.
	This is America First.
	And I'd like to introduce our very special guest host, Kurt Schlichter.
	And.
	And we are back, back on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	I am guest host Kurt Schlichter, and of course, the bumper music, Gloria by Laura Branigan, who people like me remember from when we were in high school 500 years ago.
	Who's more glorious than American greatness' own, my pal, Liz Scheld.
	Hi, Liz!
	Welcome to Dr. Gorka's show!
	Hello!
	So great to be here.
	Oh, can you believe he threw me the keys to this jalopy?
	I don't know what he's thinking.
	Then he took off, you know, for vacation.
	It's crazy talk.
	Indeed.
	Oh.
	So, Liz, there's, you know, usually this is a barren desert.
	It's the Gobi Desert of news.
	But there's all sorts of fun things going on right now.
	I want to get your thought about Republican Representative George Santos.
	of Long Island.
	The guy who, how should we say, not only tweaked his resume about where he went to school and his education stuff, but literally said, by the way, I'm also Jewish and gay.
	And apparently he was neither or both.
	I'm not sure.
	What the hell?
	Well, I have to just say that the media has given Joe Biden a pass for similarly making crap up about his resume when he was running for president.
	I mean, he was, didn't he say he got some scholarship and he was at the top of his law school class when he was at the bottom?
	He makes up stuff.
	Nobody says a word about it.
	It's fine.
	I think the biggest problem with this George Santos is that he thought he was a Democrat because no Republican could get away with that.
	Oh, look, I think it's hysterical.
	And I was on, you know, Twitter, as I am once in a while, follow me, at Kurt Schlichter.
	And I said, hey, you know, they're all railing at your choice.
	I said, hey, what's the rule then about padding your resume?
	What's the rule?
	And this woman named Marissa Kasabas or Kasbas from MSNBC comes out and says, you Republicans don't have any rules.
	What's the rule you propose?
	And she didn't like that.
	I invited her on the show to explain what the rule is, but I gave her a caveat.
	I'm going to apply it to your side too.
	You'll notice she's not here, but you are.
	Right.
	There are no rules.
	And I refuse to be bound by the rules.
	Either everybody follows the rules or nobody follows the rules.
	So I guess nobody's following the rules.
	Oh my gosh, I want a cigarette after hearing that.
	I love it!
	That's the way it goes.
	I mean, either everyone follows the rules or no one follows the rules.
	Yeah, it's not hard.
	I don't care what this guy said again.
	I don't care.
	I don't either.
	I don't care if he said, yes, I am a gay man, except I'm really not.
	And I think it's interesting in America, the hotbed of homophobia, the guy's trying to get ahead.
	By saying he's gay.
	Yeah, by saying I'm gay.
	Which is, you know, that's an interesting take.
	I don't care.
	You have no morality!
	Okay!
	I don't care.
	Yeah, you know, when I want my morality evaluated, I go to the people who want to off babies, okay?
	Those are the guys I seek out their moral guidance.
	It's just laughable that somebody would make a claim that this is, that the Republicans have no morality when really the Democrats are consistently, they have just disappearing moral principles that just appear when it's convenient.
	So I just don't take, I don't, I mean, these people are trolls.
	I'm done.
	Any from MSNBC is just a political troll.
	That's, that's all they are.
	Yeah, I'm a third tier political troll.
	I'd have gotten hurt.
	She'd have been able to talk to millions of people.
	And make her case.
	But she fears it.
	Now that leads us to another thing, which is these guys are never challenged, so they don't know how to make a case.
	But that's another issue.
	Look, here's my conservative principle.
	I'm not going to have any principles that result in me being less free.
	And giving the Democrats one more vote in the House makes me less free.
	Ergo, if this guy wants to swan around, pretending he's fabulous, when he's really just a slob like me, That's cool.
	I don't care.
	No, I don't care.
	In fact, I actively like it because I want them to suffer.
	I want them to be frustrated and annoyed by our... by the... well, it isn't hypocrisy, but they would call it hypocrisy.
	I want them to be annoyed by it.
	I want them to go, well, this is wrong!
	And then we can go, maybe, but there's nothing you can do about it.
	Because we're not doing principles anymore.
	Have you noticed that principles are always a tool to constrain us?
	Of course.
	It's like they're going to have to take that out of their playbook because it's not going to work.
	The days of holding us to a standard that they aren't held to, it's over.
	Well, not the bulwark!
	Ahoy!
	No, I mean, I know the article's going to be coming out with, you know, Charlie Sykes, Mr. Marriage, leaning into... This is further proof of the moral bankruptcy of the conservative movement.
	Can you hand me the program?
	I need to figure out which wife I'm on.
	So, look, it's...
	I think it's great because I want them to be as frustrated as we were because you know we were frustrated Liz Sheld because we actually believed in something and we saw it wasn't uh uh wasn't being honored and and and we thought that was wrong and then we realized they don't care if it's wrong and then we realized Then we don't care either.
	Right, exactly.
	It's very powerful.
	You just drop the rope, and then they don't have anything.
	Then they don't have anything to, you know, hold you to.
	So, you know, this is really the least of my concerns right now.
	This guy, I don't care if he said he was the Tooth Fairy.
	I don't care if he said he was Joan of Arc reincarnated.
	I really don't care.
	Well, I wouldn't like that he was French.
	Okay, and that's fair.
	And that is a fair criticism, but we have bigger issues going on and very, very serious issues going on right now.
	Yeah.
	So I just don't I really don't care what this guy did.
	And, you know, MSNBC needs some content to fill their airwaves or, you know, it's kind of slow right now.
	You know, it's over at the Hill, so they need to fill it up with some claptrap.
	And some scandal, air quotes scandal.
	It's fine.
	Nice use of claptrap, by the way.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you.
	There's only like four people that care and they're either at the bulwark or National Review or something.
	Oh God, National Review's going to retire.
	The moral bankruptcy of Trump.
	Shut up, losers!
	I was going to say, have we gotten to think peace about how this is all because of Trump?
	That's coming!
	If it weren't for Trump, that Trump did something... Santos!
	The legacy of Trump!
	Shut up!
	God, you losers!
	What a bunch of goofs!
	Speaking of losers...
	Rona McDaniel is insisting that she get a fourth shot at trying not to fail.
	She's failed five times in a row.
	Do you think Harmeet Dhillon is running an insurgency?
	I have been an outspoken supporter.
	We've got about 30 seconds left.
	Do you think Harmeet Dhillon and the base have a chance of overthrowing Ms.
	Failure?
	Well, I am Team Harmeet all the way.
	I love her.
	I hope that she can, because if the Republicans were serious, they would get rid of all these failed leaders, these dusty bag of bones that have been leading them to defeat for the last decade.
	They should all be gone.
	So, go Harmeet!
	Yes, exactly.
	Harmeet, Dylan, guys, you can reach out to your committee members.
	There are three members of the Republican Committee from every state and territory.
	Email them!
	The emails are out there, so I'm polite.
	Hey, I think we should try someone who's not a total failure.
	This is Kurt Schlichter, sitting in for Dr. Seb Gorka on America First.
	Stick around.
	Got more to come.
	You still there?
	I'm here.
	Oh, that was fun.
	It was fun.
	We're live, by the way.
	They can hear us.
	Okay, I'll stop.
	I won't say any F-words or anything like I normally do.
	Exactly.
	You're colorful.
	No, it's a good segment.
	I just don't care about that guy.
	I know.
	I woke up this morning with all the scans.
	I'm like, I just do not care.
	I know.
	You look at me, I'm like, okay.
	They have a fake Indian in the Senate.
	Exactly.
	You know?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	You care about this?
	I don't care.
	I know.
	You know?
	Maybe if he pretended he was an Indian, I would object.
	Also, I wouldn't care either.
	I still don't care.
	Nothing matters to me.
	I think it's important that we make it clear that their little, like, hissy fits, their little ankle-biting gutter snipe content, we just don't care.
	Well, look, I think it's funny.
	I want them to feel pain.
	I want them to go, but this isn't right.
	You know who cares is the political class, and that's the biggest problem.
	Well, they're already angry because this guy wasn't supposed to get elected.
	He's an outsider.
	Well, good.
	You know, if an insider like Blumenthal or – Oh, yeah, another one.
	Da-Nang Dick, right?
	That's another one.
	Yeah, Da-Nang Dick.
	The hero of the Tet Offensive!
	Yeah, right.
	Please.
	Charlie was in the wire!
	I held out at the Dunkin' Donuts in Massachusetts as long as I could.
	I had Sully on one side.
	And Paulie on the other.
	I don't think McCarthy's going to do anything about it.
	I think we don't care.
	Oh, wait, he's from Connecticut.
	I can't tell those things about it.
	But the leadership cares.
	You know, they care.
	The McCarthy's, the McConnell's, this guy.
	I don't think McCarthy's going to do anything about it.
	I think McCarthy's like, oh, he should be like, meh, you know.
	He should put the guy on the Intel House.
	Exactly.
	You should give him Schiff.
	Exactly.
	You should give him Schiff's slot.
	The farter.
	What's his name?
	Oh, Swallow.
	Swallow.
	I decided to give somebody with more credibility.
	And a member of the LGBTQ question mark contingency.
	And if Schiff objects, he's just a homophobe.
	Or a pseudo-homophobe, as the case may be.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Anyway.
	Nah.
	Nah, I gotta read a thing.
	Oh, you're the best!
	Let's crush Rana.
	No, I got to read a thing.
	Go read your thing.
	Awesome show.
	Thanks for having me.
	Oh, you're the best.
	Let's crush Rana.
	All right.
	You got it.
	Bye.
	Bye.
	Okay.
	I think I'm going to go to – I'm going to do the angel trees, and then I'll do – angel tree, and then I'll do my calls.
	And, um, we will get, uh, um, yeah, that'll kill a segment and then we'll have Jen.
	No, I have another segment and I'll be done for an hour.
	And then it begins again.
	The cycle of life circle of life.
	Oh, Ooh, this is kind of like a cool effect.
	I'm just like freaking out here.
	All the people watching Rumble are going, you know, Dr. Gork is much saner.
	Dr. Gork is much saner.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, and this is America First with the one and only Kurt Schlichter.
	Yeah.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka!
	We are back!
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	The phone number is 833-33-GORKA.
	That is 833-33-GORKA.
	I have calls.
	And one of them is dropped, and I'm not sure which one.
	Is Randy still there?
	Let's talk to Randy.
	Welcome to America First.
	How you doing?
	Hey, I'm good.
	I'm good.
	Happy New Year.
	Happy New Year to you, too.
	You ready to fight communism?
	Absolutely.
	I want to talk about Rona, but if I could preface it real fast because I know you have your buddy Jim Hansen on later on.
	How many super yachts do you think that these Ukrainians are going to be cruising around the Mediterranean After we've given them all of this $100 billion and whatever else there are.
	You know, I hear tell that some of Zelensky's friends are going to be leaving the Black Sea, cruising down the Mediterranean towards the French Riviera once this is all over with.
	Well, you know, Randy, I'm torn.
	Because I, as you know, if you've read my town hall column, you know I went and trained Ukrainian soldiers.
	I deployed with Ukrainian soldiers.
	I respect the Ukrainian people, and if somebody invaded my country, I would fight like hell.
	And if somebody invaded my country, I'd try and get every dollar I could from everybody else to buy as many guns and stuff as I could.
	That being said, Ukraine is so corrupt there are Nigerian internet princes out there who are offended by its level of corruption.
	So, you know, writing a blank check It doesn't attain any of anybody's goals.
	And the fact that it's so corrupt... Look, I just think we haven't seen anybody out there allow us to debate these very real issues like the one you brought up.
	You're worried about corruption.
	You're worried about your money being squandered.
	And if you went anywhere else in the regime media, instead of saying, you know, Randy, I've got the same concern.
	Maybe we can figure out a way to address it.
	What you would get is, Randy loves Putin!
	Randy, you don't love Putin, do you?
	No, I don't.
	I just love to have some kind of authority looking at how this money is given, and we shouldn't dole it out in a $100 billion chunk.
	Well, exactly.
	If somebody out there could make a case...
	about, yes, this serves an American strategic objective, here it is, and that's the stuff Dr. Gorka taught about at the War College, the stuff I learned about at the War College, the stuff that's never done in practice outside the War College.
	If we had an objective and they could say, hey, here's how we plan to do it, and here's what we're going to do to address your concerns, I don't know if you'd agree, but would you at least be glad that you had a chance to listen?
	Absolutely.
	And, hey, I think those Ukrainians, they could probably buy some of our stuff instead of being given to you.
	But, hey, I know you're running out of time, Kurt.
	Well, hey, I am out of time.
	Thank you, Randy, for bringing up this important issue here on American First.
	With Dr. Seb Gorka and guest host Kurt Schlichter, we will be right back.
	I thought it was a good call.
	No, it was good.
	Um, all right.
	So you got this line three, Dan and Minnesota's left.
	Okay.
	We got a guest here, right?
	Yeah, we got a guest.
	Uh, let Dan know.
	I want, I want that call.
	I got to take it, uh, in the last segment though.
	But I, if he holds on through this, I will take him first thing, uh, last segment.
	Cause he's got a good question.
	Ugh.
	I thought it was good with Liz.
	What do you guys think?
	You don't think, huh?
	You guys are just like... He sucks.
	This is terrible.
	I'm not gonna tell him.
	Oh, so you guys aren't actually listening.
	I get it.
	I get it.
	Good lord.
	I'm all hyperactive here.
	I need Adderall.
	which apparently isn't available anymore.
	Hmm.
	You guys out on Rumble?
	I'm sorry I'm not more entertaining.
	Just trying to keep the vibe like this, you know?
	Because I just had a cup of coffee.
	I've literally had nothing to eat or drink since last night at about six.
	So I just had this coffee and it's like injected straight into my veins and now I'm like, I feel like the guy who dusted at Pablo Escobar's house.
	You know?
	It's funny because he sold a lot of cocaine.
	That would be the thing there.
	We got our friend Jen.
	Working on getting her right now.
	Da da da da da.
	Da da da da da.
	Rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock and roll high school.
	See you guys on Rumble.
	I know you're enjoying this.
	Kurt kills time between segments.
	While we're here, let me list all the reasons that we should urge the Republican National Committee, the 168 voting members.
	Hey, Kurt, are you sure that's the right phone number for her?
	Because I'm getting into something... You've reached an elevator phone.
	You've reached an elevator phone?
	One minute.
	Instead of... No.
	That is the right number.
	I'm going to send this back to Jeff.
	There it is.
	That's the number.
	Do you see it?
	It is different?
	Looks like the one I had died.
	Oh, I put a 6 instead of a 5!
	a five.
	It's because I'm an idiot.
	Da-da-da-da-da.
	Hi, Jen. - No.
	Hi Jen!
	We don't have time.
	She'll be there when we come last time.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka and our very special guest host, Kurt Kurt Schlichter.
	And we're back on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	Except Dr. Gorka is on vacation today.
	He is throwing the keys to this jalopy to me.
	Kurt Schlichter, Senior Columnist at Town Hall.
	And I am taking for a ride my friend Jen Van Laar, investigative reporter at Red State.
	Hi Jen, welcome to America First.
	So good to be talking to you.
	Oh my gosh, how are you feeling?
	I know you've been a bit under the weather.
	Well, my throat didn't close up in the middle of the night from the inflammation of COVID, so it's all good.
	Well, that's something.
	That's a thing.
	Let's look on the bright side.
	You may be diseased, but you're not that diseased.
	That's great.
	You're still doing killer work out there, Jen Van Laar of Red State.
	You're like one of the only investigative reporters out there.
	How come it's conservatives like you who are doing things like uncovering the massive... I don't know if it's really corruption or just mismanagement at the Republican National Committee under Rona McDaniel, who is running inexplicably for a fourth chance to completely fail.
	Why is it Red State, a conservative outlet, that's doing this instead of the regime media that I was told and informed are important neutral truth-tellers who keep America informed?
	You know, when the regime media is ignoring you, that's when you know you're totally irrelevant.
	If they had anything to fear from Rona McDaniel, they would be all over this.
	But they do not have anything to fear from her.
	Ooh, that is darning her with faint praise, I think.
	Now, they're all over George Santos, the guy who's literally pretending to be gay, and apparently isn't.
	They're all over him because he actually might make a difference.
	You knock this Republican out.
	We have that.
	We have that one less vote in the Republican House.
	With Rona McDaniel, she's pretty much enemy action personified.
	Yeah, I mean, she handed them, like you were talking about at the beginning of the show, she handed the Carrie Lake loss to them.
	Just, here you go, have fun.
	And they want her to keep going, you know?
	Well, let's talk a little about the Carrie Lake loss, because I was an attorney working in Las Vegas during the 2020 campaign.
	I saw stuff up close.
	I did not work for Carrie Lake this time, so I don't know a lot about the case.
	But what I do know is it is an almost insurmountable burden to challenge an election or election rules after the votes have been cast.
	So I was not shocked when the judge ruled against her.
	I just wasn't.
	But what did shock me... I worked in the courtrooms for 20 years, too, and so I wasn't shocked.
	It was just a terrible burden to have to meet.
	And while the testimony was interesting and gave us action points for what we need to do in the future, I didn't think that it was ever going to meet that burden.
	Well, let's talk a little law nerd stuff, because I think it's important.
	The standard of proof in a normal civil case is preponderance of the evidence.
	It is more likely than not that party A is correct as opposed to party B. Beyond a reasonable doubt, that is the criminal standard.
	The government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the person is guilty of the crime charged.
	In the middle there, though kind of more towards reasonable doubt, is clear and convincing evidence, which is a higher standard.
	This is not merely 50 plus 1, it is a nebulous amount higher.
	And as my understanding, Carrie Lake in a post-election challenge, had to approve, by clear and convincing evidence, intent to affect the election and that the election was in fact affected, and the judge did not make those findings.
	Does that comport with what you know?
	Exactly, and that she really had to prove it in her case-in-chief, and the ruling was a little weird.
	It seemed like he was just going on her case-in-chief and didn't even really consider the things that were brought up in the rest of the hearing, which, you know, still probably wouldn't have gotten you there.
	Well, technically, what you're talking about is Carrie Lake actually had the burden of proof.
	She had to prove these things.
	The Maricopa had to prove nothing.
	Maricopa could have just sat there and gone like this, And if Carrie Lake didn't carry her burden, she would have lost.
	And I'm not talking about the merits of the case.
	I'm talking procedure.
	Much like in battle, you know, amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics, citizens and civilians talk facts, lawyers talk procedure.
	Exactly.
	But the thing is, the burden of proof is preponderance of the evidence if you're challenging election actions before the election.
	In other words, you have a better chance to do it before the election.
	And Rona McDaniel, head of the RNC, did not have election lawyers mobilized and ready to act in 2020.
	And once again in 2022, they were not mobilized and ready to act in Arizona to shape the battlefield so that we didn't have all this nonsense going on.
	I think that's inexcusable.
	Yeah, and what I have heard from talking to insiders is that the current general counsel at the RNC has never argued a case in a courtroom.
	That isn't necessarily a problem, defending one way does.
	Many people go out and hire litigators outside.
	Here's one of the problems.
	A lot of the litigators that the RNC hires that are on its approved panel list are actually also litigating in favor of things that the Republican Party does not stand for.
	Many of them are, if you look at their donations, these giant law firms are mostly giving to Biden.
	What the hell is that?
	Yeah, and the thing, too, is if you're going to be hiring a litigator and you've not ever really been in a courtroom, how do you know which litigator to hire?
	My problem with them is that they don't have a strategy.
	You need someone creating a 50-state strategy of looking at what states need changes in their laws at the state level.
	Well, there's the music, but may I suggest maybe we need a well-known election lawyer like, I don't know, Harmeet Dhillon as the next RNC chair?
	Just throwing that out there, folks, here on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	I'm guest host Kurt Schlechter.
	We'll be right back.
	I guess not.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	I'm going to talk to the caller next.
	He is Dan.
	Do we have anybody else?
	No.
	Okay.
	Oh, all right.
	We're not gonna have callers for a little bit.
	I'm going to have a lot of time with Amanda, so that's going to get wild.
	By the way, Dr. Gorka is listening in.
	He always does.
	Just to make sure we don't drive this Mustang off the cliff.
	I don't know.
	He doesn't do well on vacation sometimes.
	He's always working, Twitter... What?
	I haven't heard that before.
	Since the last time my wife talked to me.
	I'm liking this tie she got me.
	I think it looks spiffy.
	I'm excited.
	Okay.
	You guys happy with the show so far?
	Yes.
	By the way, I haven't had my headset on the last couple of times you asked a question, so I wasn't ignoring you.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We're down one guy, so I got to run to the other side of the room to call people.
	We're down two guys.
	Oh, yeah.
	Two guys.
	Oh, wait, wait.
	Are you guys having an Elon Musk Twitter cull?
	Just about.
	All right.
	To the extent you heard the stuff I was talking about, the technical side of election law challenges, did that make sense for our audience?
	Yeah.
	Because I want them to understand what's actually going on.
	Well, you know what the problem is?
	You're better off, like, cheating in an election and then running out the clock.
	Yes.
	Because once the election's done... No, no, no, that's correct.
	No, you are correct.
	No judge is ever going to overturn something.
	I mean... Oh, no, no.
	Anybody who thinks you're going to get a judge to do that At least for a conservative.
	Exactly.
	You're just, I mean, I just don't see it.
	You basically have to have somebody notarizing, you know, I cheated and I intended to affect the election and I know for a fact it did on videotape.
	Here's my thumbprint.
	And even then the judge is going to go, well, you know.
	30 seconds. All right, 15 seconds. All 15 seconds. All right, 15
	seconds. 15 seconds.
	This is America First, and I'd like to introduce our very special guest host, Kurt Schlichter.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka!
	I got the four-speed manual Mustang that is the show, and I'm heading down the open road.
	That endless ribbon of blacktop, that is America First.
	I'd like to bring on Dan from Minnesota.
	Dan, you've got a question about the Arizona election.
	Hi Kurt, how you doing?
	Yes, I'm not an attorney, so I don't understand where you're coming from, but I don't doubt the truth of what you're saying, but I'm just trying to understand this.
	Do you agree that it appears that there were a major number of voters who were disenfranchised because of Printer issues or ballot counter issues, you know, I mean, hours having to be in line because their ballot won't be accepted 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 times, whatever.
	And then it goes into some box and they're, you know, and they're not even, and then they don't, they're worried that it's not being counted properly.
	I mean, do you think that that's true or do you just don't think that's true?
	Dan, I think it's true and legally irrelevant.
	It doesn't make me happy to say that.
	Understand what the law is.
	The law is about Litigation is about convincing the trier of fact, it may be a jury, it may be like in Carrie Lake's case, a single judge, that the party with a burden of proof has proven the facts to meet the standard of proof.
	Now, for instance, in a criminal trial, if you find someone guilty, you're not necessarily proving he actually did the crime, as we've seen with one of the J6 political prisoners.
	What you are trying to do is convince 12 people who can get off of jury duty to vote your way, if you're the prosecutor.
	And sometimes they get it wrong.
	Now my experience is in most non-political cases, juries, if they don't get exactly right, They often come, they mostly come close.
	Now, because I've tried cases, that means I've also lost cases, and it's kind of a bitter pill, usually I walk out going, okay, I had a chance to be heard.
	In this case, I fully understand why people are so upset about what they saw.
	They saw evidence of misconduct that may have affected this election, if believed, it probably did affect it, and then they didn't get the relief they believed they were entitled to.
	Under the law and the way courts work, I wasn't surprised, but I was disappointed.
	Does that make it any clearer?
	Because I'm really giving you a lawyer's perspective in that at the end it's about winning, not necessarily about the truth, which is sad.
	Does that make sense?
	Do you think the law should be changed?
	Well, Dan, that's a good question.
	And I think it's going to be hard to change the law.
	I think what we need to do is fight the battle beforehand, Rona McDaniel, when even on the battlefield.
	This is Kurt Schlichter, sitting in for Dr. Seb Gorka on America First.
	Stick around, we've got a lot more to come.
	I thought Dan was a good call. .
	Thank you.
	Tell people, hey, you know, truth and, you know, right.
	Dude, it's hard for me too.
	I'm not an election lawyer, but I know, I know the Stan, I know standards of proof and I know how judges act.
	I hope my mom is a judge or was.
	Yeah.
	I was there for about five days before I got COVID.
	Yes.
	I get to Nevada and there is one RNC lawyer, and he's a great lawyer, but there was one on the ground.
	That's not enough.
	Yes, you needed an actual law firm with a logistical support.
	We get to Nevada.
	I'm going to talk about this with Amanda because she was there too.
	We're literally not only having to conduct operations, we're having to build our logistical base.
	And when I talk logistical base, I mean everything from somebody's gotta find a printer and printer paper.
	No, I mean, but you can't make a pleading without printer and printer paper.
	Well, exactly.
	2020, I'm angry.
	2022, I'm livid.
	Because this was not a surprise.
	The Maricopa shenanigans You know, there are lawsuits that could have been filed ahead of time to ensure that this sort of stuff didn't happen.
	Are they going to be filed in 2024?
	What's Rona's plan?
	Oh, wait!
	Oh, wait!
	I don't need a plan!
	I'm Rona!
	Well, that's why you need a lawyer to run the RNC now, you know?
	That's only one aspect of it, but I think it's an important one.
	Hey, I'm going to run out and hit the little guest host room.
	Okay, we have five minutes.
	Okay, be right back.
	Okay, be right be right back.
	All right.
	All right.
	Yeah, it's saying you're not online.
	Let me try again.
	Alright, that's fine.
	Alright, it's dialing now.
	All right, talk to you later.
	All right, we got you.
	This is Jeff.
	Kurt will be back in a minute.
	Hang on one second.
	Do you want to talk real fast just so I can check your audio?
	Yeah, sure.
	I'm talking about things.
	Can you hear me okay?
	Yeah.
	Can you lift it?
	Oh, no, you're fine now.
	That's good.
	Yeah, how's the... Is the setting okay?
	Maybe a little bit.
	Just a little bit of the top of your head is cut off.
	If you can push it up just a tad.
	That's perfect.
	That's fine?
	Yeah, that'll work.
	I feel like I hear a tiny little bit of delay, but it might not be there when I'm on with him.
	Do you have any?
	You're getting that just from my mic.
	That'll be all fine.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	And Amanda, what would you like for your lower third for your chyron?
	Producer, director, plot against the president.
	Or you could just put director, plot against the president, ex-Trump, White House, State Department.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Phantom like Pompeo.
	I'll do director of plot against the president.
	Whatever you want.
	Ugh, this side of my mouth is always awkwardly... I am in the house.
	Alright, we got Amanda.
	Hi Amanda.
	Hi, how are you?
	Pretty good.
	We got a lot to chat about.
	I think we definitely got to talk about Nevada as well as, you know, the specifics of Rona's failure in Nevada.
	People are very concerned about the Cary Lake stuff and they don't understand exactly why you always lose election challenges and how you get around that.
	But, you know, being prepared!
	Yeah.
	Mark Elias, like I said, I need to take on the entire Republican machine because we're not even playing.
	We're not even trying.
	Well, when you can have a hack like Mark Elias, who usually loses at the Court of Appeal, running circles around you.
	I mean, my God.
	Yeah, which is why we need an attorney at the head of the, at the, the RMC.
	I mean, it's, there's so many things we could talk about.
	We could also talk about the fact that like, If the security state was going after the DNC the way that they are the Republicans of the world, like, there's no way that, like what Karen Beatty said earlier, the DNC wouldn't be funding whistleblowers and, you know, getting to the bottom of it and all that.
	So, I mean, there's just an endless amount of stuff we can be talking about besides yoga pants.
	Well, I'm sure we will get to that.
	Did you already have the reporter on?
	Yeah, I had Jen.
	Yeah, we talked a little about it.
	Any breaking news that I hadn't heard before?
	No, nothing new.
	Okay.
	I did ask her why it's the conservative media bringing this up instead of the regime media, and she had a good point.
	They want Rona.
	Yeah, of course they do.
	She is the regime candidate.
	it.
	I love that.
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	That's 833-33-G-O-R-K-A.
	It is my pleasure to bring to America first someone you've heard before and someone who was my comrade-in-arms.
	in Nevada in 2020 when we were fighting for election integrity in the wake of a rigged election.
	And when I say rigged, I'm talking three ways.
	Outright cheating, manipulation of the legal system, and essentially receiving disinformation and censorship.
	Amanda Milius is a true fighter, and she is here today with us on America First.
	Welcome, Amanda!
	Hello, Mr. Schlichter.
	It's a pleasure to be with you, as always.
	Well, thank you.
	Look, you and I were both part of the election fight in Nevada, me for a much shorter time because I caught COVID after about five days.
	You know, I get to Nevada, Rick Grinnell calls me up, I'm at a diner, I'm having a patty melt to console myself in the wake of the disaster, and he says, I need you in Nevada.
	And I'm like, well, you know, why would you need me?
	I'm not an election lawyer, but I am a litigator.
	Fine.
	I cruise out there.
	I get there.
	The RNC, the Republican National Committee, Ronna McDaniel's organization, has one lawyer there.
	He brought his dog.
	It's a very nice dog.
	He's a very good lawyer.
	But Amanda, one lawyer in one of the six big battlegrounds?
	I couldn't believe it.
	No, and it's really crazy, especially considering I was in the war room in 2016 as well, which was actually because we were the outsiders, right?
	The RNC was not as involved as they were.
	We lost the state in 2016 as well, but there was just as much fraud, and I remember working with the likes of Heather Flick, who is a partner of Harmeet Dhawan's, who's somebody that you know, and frankly, somebody who Probably is the reason I got in the administration.
	But in 2016, we were the broad hotline of the West Coast.
	And the fact that that war room was more pro-Trump and more functional than the one that I walked into in 2020, when we had all that time to prepare.
	Look, we've both been loud about this.
	And I think there's a reason.
	The funny thing is, We weren't, we didn't start this fight.
	None of this would be even going on if Rana hadn't, as I say, sicked her eunuch on us for complaining about the expenditures that were discovered and said, oh, well, you didn't mind working in the war room that was, that was, you know, last minute.
	What else are they going to do?
	Wait a minute, Amanda.
	You mean when you and I, you as an expert, me as a lawyer, can charge hundreds and hundreds of dollars an hour for clients.
	I mean, a lot of money.
	And we went there and gave our time for free, and they gave us some sandwiches, and that was our big party?
	That was the big waste of money?
	Maybe if they'd give us complimentary yoga pants.
	Yeah, I didn't get any yoga pants, frankly.
	I didn't get any flowers!
	All I brought, except bringing home my beautiful wife a bundle of daffodils, I brought her home COVID.
	Believe me, I'm still hearing about it.
	That's not cool.
	No, it was not cool.
	Wait, look, the point is...
	I was at the point of, just to add on to what you're saying, yes, you, a top attorney, and I was at the moment, I was promoting the top documentary on Amazon.com, The Plot Against the President.
	which was a hit movie for a year and a half, continues to be the highest rated political documentary on Amazon.
	I was in the middle of promoting that and I dropped everything because my friends that were on the ground there from 2016 were like, we are underwater.
	The RNC team is leaving us.
	We have no support.
	I came out there not to even do comms.
	I came out there just to, like, help my friend get her dry cleaning or, like, whatever she needed.
	I was like, whatever you need, I will do.
	And I ran into y'all and Rick and everybody, and they were like, dude, you're going to have to take over comms for the state.
	These people can't even send a tweet.
	It was remarkable.
	I get there and there are a bunch of suites.
	And somehow the team managed to get themselves a bunch of suites.
	You were about four away from where I was working with the legal team.
	And we were attempting to set up logistics at the same time we're trying to conduct operations.
	Now, I'm a military guy.
	You don't do that if you could help it.
	Right, I flew my assistant into the situation as soon as I realized that the entire thing was being run off a spreadsheet that was being handled by a woman who didn't know how to use Excel.
	So, I literally called my 20-something-year-old assistant and was like, hey, you want to come to Vegas and save the election?
	And he, luckily, was able to jump on a plane, and we Yep.
	You know, straightened out a bunch of things really quickly and then started throwing out communications.
	By the end of that week, I think I had the top Fox shows every single night was covering Nevada.
	That had not happened until we got there.
	There were no there were no information being put out.
	And we're surprised that this happens.
	The RNC was sitting the team from from their side before they all left or the ones that remain to do the corruption that they did.
	They were literally sitting at the bar.
	And I was like, is there a communication?
	Who has access to the Twitter account?
	Where's the comms team?
	And they were just hanging out in a conference room waiting to go home because they were so done with that election because they wanted it.
	Well, look, you have to ask yourself what you would do differently if you wanted to lose.
	And the thing is, in 2020, look, I hold a lot of people responsible.
	I hold Rona McDaniel responsible.
	I had her chair of the RNC.
	It was the end of her first term, and she went 0-2 that year after losing an 18.
	But I don't, you know, I don't understand why I get there, and I'm actually a lawyer, and I'm running operations.
	I'm actually finding, you know, okay, can we set this up over here?
	I need people over here working, and I'm good at that.
	I'm an army officer, but I shouldn't have been doing that.
	We should have had a law firm with the infrastructure in place.
	And then we didn't have that in 2022 either.
	What the hell?
	No, and that's exactly why we have Maricopa, which is... I was joking the other day reading tweets about the law case, the Carey Lakes case in Maricopa.
	It sounds identical to what we went through in Nevada.
	Our case went farthest as far as actual official campaign cases, and the fact that a judge could...
	even just as a joke, say, oh, I've looked at 5,000 pages of evidence and just decided to throw your case out.
	You know, I'm no lawyer, but I don't think you can go through 5,000 pages of evidence that quickly, and that's what happened in our appeal.
	And so these judges were up against corrupt judges, We're up against Mark Elias and his team, which if you're confused about who's Mark Elias, watch Plot Against the President.
	Again, it's like they have only like a handful of bad guys.
	It's like Jim Baker, Mark Elias, like these names keep popping up.
	Here's the thing.
	Mark Elias is not a great lawyer.
	He loses all the time on appeal.
	But The thing is, you don't ever want to get to the point where you're challenging issues after an election.
	The burden is so heavy, even if the judge is perfectly straightforward, you are almost certain to lose.
	And I don't know anything about the Kerry Lake judge, but I was not surprised by the ruling because I understand the procedural posture.
	The fight needs to be beforehand.
	We need to be on the ground six months out where we're, you know, going on a preponderance of the evidence standard, getting orders, forcing Maricopa to perform competently at its one job, and I don't know what, where the hell was Doug Ducey, who I kept hearing is like, you know, the, you know, God's gift to governors, and this happens under his watch?
	Unbelievable.
	Again.
	Rona McDaniel was not ready.
	And look, there are plenty of people to blame.
	I'll take some blame myself.
	I was a pundit.
	I was very optimistic about 2022.
	I was wrong in important parts.
	So I'll take some blame.
	And there's plenty there to move around.
	But Rona McDaniel didn't get it done.
	Yeah, and I'm sorry, but like, I...
	I was pretty confident about 2020 as well.
	I mean, we had a really good situation going into that.
	The idea that we're supposed to just accept this is ridiculous.
	I mean, at least we're allowed to say that now without fear of being, I mean, maybe thrown in a gulag or kicked off of Twitter.
	But the fact that you're completely right in that the states that did their cases ahead of time are the ones where things went Hey, Amanda, let me hold that.
	I want to hold you over for another segment because we got a lot to talk about with this RNC race and Rona McDaniel and the alternative, Harmeet Dhillon.
	This is Kurt Schlichter.
	I'm guest hosting for Dr. Seb Gorka on America First.
	Stick around for more with Amanda Milius.
	Amanda's awesome.
	Mike's reliable.
	Ah, nice.
	Hey, that was fun, Amanda!
	Don't say anything totally crazy.
	Don't say anything totally crazy.
	I remember.
	What else?
	I think, yeah, I'm perfectly happy to jump into talking about Rana v. Harmeet.
	Yeah, let's talk about that.
	I think the people really want to know, and I think they want to talk what they can do personally.
	Well, first of all, how it works, what they can do personally, and, you know, how they can affect things by reaching out to their committee members.
	So we can give them some tools that they can use.
	People are motivated on this.
	Nobody even thought about these races before.
	No, but why would they?
	And people were engaged.
	Yeah.
	It was an insider thing.
	And that's the whole point.
	You need to get the inside information outside.
	I pulled up the list of the priority states.
	I'll rattle that off.
	Oh, great.
	But yeah, that's... I mean, what Scott did with HireHarmony.com needs to be shouted out.
	I don't know if we can put it on YouTube.
	Yeah, we can do that.
	That would be awesome.
	When is the election anyway?
	I keep hearing January 23rd or the 27th.
	Okay.
	That would be awesome.
	When is the election, anyway?
	It is January 27th here in Dana Point.
	I keep hearing different.
	I keep hearing January 23rd or the 27th.
	Yeah, I've heard 23rd also.
	I hope it's the 23rd because I'm out of town on the 27th.
	Yeah, that's my birthday, the 23rd, but whatever.
	29, huh?
	Wow.
	Again!
	I turned 58 on day before Christmas, so I'm not hearing nothing from anybody.
	What did you guys want in the lower third?
	You said you wanted a... www.hireharmete.com Dr. Gorka's listening also.
	I think he's very excited.
	Yeah, Twitter did a good job.
	Yeah, this is his vacation, listening to Schlichter and Milius on, whatchamacallit.
	Probably horrified now.
	It was a sign yesterday, by the way, Conan was on.
	Really?
	What was it on?
	It was like Showtime or something.
	I didn't realize it was co-written with Oliver Stone.
	I'd have loved to sit in on those sessions.
	That's a little bit... WGA thing?
	Yeah like they weren't in the room like I got it they're weirdly friends and I'm actually really we kind of come full circle in the political horseshoe and we're all on the same page you know but he's doing his thing it's hey man he fought for his country if he wants to go say something crazy he earned it he's got a bronze star I don't and right I mean he's uh he's he's
	The two of them, weirdly, like, as I said, like, my dad being so right and him being kind of so left, in the old sense, are now basically on the same page.
	I think they also have a masculine sensibility that just is completely foreign to what's going on now.
	They do.
	Anyway.
	The son and all, yeah, they're good people.
	Yeah.
	But, uh, oh, my gosh, you know, usually this is a slow week.
	Not this time.
	Nope, this is gonna be a creaky one.
	I may bring up George Santos also.
	Sure.
	Just for fun.
	Like, what is the deal with that?
	So weird.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	So much.
	No violence.
	No hate speech.
	Just Happy Warriors on America First!
	Absolutely!
	My name is Kurt Schlichter, I'm guest hosting for Dr. Seb Gorka, and I have Amanda Milius, who is a conservative fireball, with me.
	She is also the director of The Plot Against the President, one of the most popular documentaries of all time.
	Before we go on and talk more about the RNC and Ronna McDaniel, I want to talk to you about The Plot Against the President, your future projects, and how you're navigating being a conservative in the movie industry.
	Well, I would say that I've removed myself from the movie industry.
	You're in L.A., which I won't give away.
	You're on the West Coast, which I will be soon for a visit, but I'm still in D.C.-ish.
	I plan to be in Texas in the next Coming months for, you know, that's where we're moving our operations.
	I have no interest in being in Los Angeles for longer than I have to.
	I go in, I go out, and I don't interact with regular Hollywood at all because I don't have to.
	And I think that I want people to know that they don't either.
	You know, there's no need to make movies in traditional Hollywood anymore.
	And I applaud Even companies whose style is not necessarily like mine, or directors whose style is certainly not like mine, I applaud the conservatives that are making content, because we need to.
	Yeah, well, I'm trying to do it with the Kelly Turnbull series.
	I'm now writing book eight.
	I have sold hundreds of thousands of these things to eager conservatives.
	There's a huge market out there, and I think you're the person to fill it.
	No, I totally agree.
	It's not a wonderful thing where they've left everything on the table.
	Oh my gosh!
	It's a free-for-all.
	Half the country is my consumer, and there's only one or two other people doing what I do.
	It's sort of amazing.
	And the fun thing for me, before we get to Ronna, because I think conservative content and conservative culture is so important, as Andrew Breitbart taught us.
	I feel like I'm the only guy out there referencing the feel and the vibe of the great movies of the 60s, 70s, 80s that we grew up with.
	You go to the theater and you just have a great time and you see something that makes you go, holy cow, it just blows your mind.
	I try and reference those in my books.
	They're very visual, and lots of little nods to them.
	But I don't see that now in current content.
	It's woke, and it's boring, and it's dull, and I hate it!
	Really dull, because it's not a meritocracy anymore.
	Frankly, I'm like this weird place where I'm like, let's bring back the studio system or something, because whatever we're doing now in film, Well, look, I would have you be Irving Thalberg if I could.
	And then you could have the Amanda Milius Award for notable people.
	It's someday in the future when the Oscars have been reborn into something people care about.
	Well, let's move on to Ronna McDaniel.
	You are one of the key insurgents in this fight.
	I know that you're behind Harmeet Dhillon.
	I know that you can go help Harmeet at www.hireharmeet.com.
	Why Harmeet Dhillon?
	Why not Ronna McDaniel?
	Well, I think you'll appreciate this because we're entering a phase of lawfare and we need a litigator who is tough and who knows this stuff.
	I mean, she's one of the most respected, not just election attorneys, but attorneys in the world.
	I mean, she's represented James O'Keefe.
	She's represented everybody who was on the right side of things.
	So who she has taken on as her clients, Tells me where her values are.
	Not only that, but I know her.
	I've met her over the years.
	And as I said, when I first met her, she scared the crap out of me.
	And that is really rare.
	So that right there, actually, I was like, that's awesome.
	And we're friends.
	She's a lovely woman.
	She doesn't shrink from a fight.
	and she's on the right side.
	Her heart is in the right place.
	And this is the kind of fighter we need.
	Right now, she's the anti-swamp.
	I mean, there's a lot of people that are like, oh, everybody's in the swamp, whatever.
	Ronna is the swamp.
	She's a Romney who's in bed with Mitch McConnell.
	How could you get any worse?
	I mean, if you ever wanna win again, we have to hire her.
	I mean, we held a very successful Twitter spaces the other night.
	It was the first one I've ever hosted.
	We certainly learned a lot.
	But we were able to let members of the 168 in the RNC speak to Harmeet because, of course, she was the only candidate that showed up.
	We had, I think, the comms director of the RNC logged in for a second and then got freaked out.
	We gave him the mic and he ran away and logged off.
	We haven't had a fight in a while over the RNC chair.
	deals with it like it's you know well look ronna mcdowell didn't expect a fight there we haven't had a fight in a while over the rnc chair it's always kind of been a back burner issue kind of hidden uh only among the 168 committee members but now the base is aware and they're making their their their intentions and their preferences known i I did a poll.
	I did one of about 6,000, one of about 5,000 people, and Rana got 0.6% in one poll, 1.1% in the other.
	That, I mean, ain't scientific, but it means something.
	The base requires accountability.
	Rana has to go.
	I totally agree, and people can help by going to HireHarmEat.com.
	I posted that link.
	I would have posted the RNC link, but it doesn't have any of their contact information.
	You can go on HireHarmEat.com and find the contact information for every single state representative and send them a polite email.
	A nice one.
	A very nice one, because we can't be, you know, if you know they're going to try and say like, oh, I'm getting harassed or something, to be extremely polite.
	And simply make your preference known to these people, because we need to know who is sticking by Rana for the sake of either some type of arrangement that's been pre-baked or anything like that, because the conservative movement so obviously wants A change.
	And if I have a second, I can tell you the states that we're focusing on really quickly.
	Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kentucky, Minnesota, Mississippi, New York, Nevada, my favorite, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah, the home of the Romneys, West Virginia and Michigan, the home of McDaniel herself.
	So those are the states where we really need to voice our opinions to the members of the 168th, the RNC national members.
	And they will vote in late January at a get-together in Southern California.
	They're going to vote.
	It's only the 168th.
	No one else.
	Now, I understand that Ronna had about a hundred and some commitments before.
	She needs 85.
	When Harmeet Dhillon appeared and provided an alternative, people started pulling out.
	Is Harmeet still rising?
	I believe he's still rising.
	I think we're gonna get a whip count from our friend and other absolute warrior, warrior for the party, Caroline Wren.
	Oh, yes.
	And Scott Pressler has been incredible, by the way, in even setting up this.
	The persistence.
	I mean, Scott Pressler, I've been saying since, like, I even became aware of Scott Pressler, I was like, why isn't he the director of something major at the RNC?
	He's never received a call from Ron.
	That's crazy to me.
	That's crazy to me.
	Look, the definition of insanity, doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result.
	We cannot re-elect Ronna McDaniel.
	Amanda Milius, thank you so much for coming here on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	I appreciate it.
	I appreciate your work.
	Keep fighting.
	And you folks, keep listening.
	833-33-GORKA.
	Give me a call.
	833-33-GORKA.
	G-O-R-K-A give me a call 833-33-GORKA we'll be right back alright we're back I thought that was a lot of fun.
	You still there, Amanda?
	Yeah, that was awesome!
	Yeah, I thought that was good.
	I'm sorry?
	I want to do this all day.
	I know, we could've just sat here and run our mouths.
	Well, look, I think Dr. Gorka needs to look your way next time he needs a guest host.
	Oh my god, I think that would be like giving the keys to the Ferrari to the kid in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
	I don't know if he's ready for that.
	I might have to sneak it out of the garage while he doesn't know.
	Well, it's actually a Mustang in the case of Dr. Gorka.
	He literally corrected me by text.
	I know.
	Believe me, we've had lots to talk about.
	I'm a Mustang owner myself.
	My first car, a 1973 Mustang.
	The biggest, bulkiest, ugliest of Mustangs.
	It was terrific.
	I was so lucky to grow up in the 70s and 80s.
	Cool light.
	Yeah, no, that's a great car.
	I love those cars.
	Well, I can't wait to do this again.
	Let me know if you need me back, just to mouth off about Ron, because I always will.
	And let's talk books, sir, when you're free.
	Anytime.
	But right now, I'm writing the damn thing, and it's amazing.
	Number eight is great so far.
	Let's have a meeting.
	I'm coming to L.A.
	in January.
	I'll text you my secret dates.
	Sounds great.
	Okay.
	All right, good luck with the rest.
	Do you need me, or am I going?
	No, no, no, you're good to go.
	Thank you.
	You sure?
	Okay.
	All right, good luck.
	All right, adios.
	Okay, bye.
	Bye.
	All right, let me send you the calls.
	Oh, we got calls!
	And Dr. Gorka jumped on.
	on.
	I think it's cool that we are all Mustang fans.
	Oh, I was seeing a wrong picture.
	Pfft.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, I just sent it now.
	I sent a Christmas picture by mistake.
	It's a nice picture.
	Alright, let me see who we got.
	the RNC is stupid and weak well I think Rick from LA He definitely deserves a shot at the podium.
	All right, kill them, kill them, Lex. . Lex. .
	News
	and talk radio is still really popular, even in the internet age.
	What you are about to hear them say is mind-boggling.
	Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
	America First.
	We are back!
	Back on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka and guest host Kurt Schlichter.
	And I am excited to take your calls.
	Rick!
	It says you say the RNC is worthless and weak!
	Like, uh, like Niedermeyer chewing out the fat guy in Animal House!
	Elaborate!
	Pretty much.
	I'll tell you why.
	They missed the memo from Lindsey Graham during the hearing.
	Do you remember?
	He said, you people disgust me.
	You will do anything and everything to get and maintain power.
	And the RNC, they don't get that.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Oh, I know exactly what you're saying, Rick.
	And by the way, how about that Lindsey Graham?
	Every once in a while he comes around and surprises the hell out of us by being amazingly based.
	But let's focus on the RNC.
	Do you think they want to lose?
	Oh, that was the other half of the argument.
	Yeah.
	McConnell and his rhinos were very worried about the key states going Republican.
	for, you know, for congressmen and senators, because I believe President Trump was going to base his, you know, rerunning on those on those results.
	So, of course, they didn't want them to win.
	Did he give any money to Arizona or Nevada?
	No.
	I think he gave money to Adam Laxell to Nevada.
	And here's the problem with some of their argument.
	Because McConnell is out there.
	Rona tried to stay out of, publicly at least, picking on candidates.
	McConnell said, well, some of your candidates are weak.
	And I'm writing an article on a column on Town Hall on McConnell and how he's stumbling.
	That'll be on Thursday.
	You're all going to want to read it at Town Hall.
	But anyway, he did not give the money that Blightmasters needed.
	He did give money to the great Adam Laxalt, a great candidate.
	He did give him money there, and you know...
	Didn't happen.
	So I'm, you know, when they say, you know, when he makes the argument, well, there's all the bad candidates I didn't support that didn't make it.
	Well, Adam didn't, although he should have.
	He's a great guy.
	He made a great senator and he's got a lot more to offer.
	So I don't buy his argument on that basis.
	I ain't just a bad argument.
	Yeah, I don't trust McConnell as far as I could throw him.
	And, you know, if it's not to lose intentionally, then we go back to that argument that, you know, Republicans and the RNC remain stupid and naive.
	They don't know how to fight fire with fire.
	They should have been on this, like you said.
	Couldn't they see the smoke before the 2020 or the 2022 election?
	You knew that was coming down the pike.
	And you send one lawyer to Nevada, and what do the Democrats send?
	50?
	I mean, come on!
	Yes.
	No, no, that's what they did.
	They prepared the battlefield.
	You know, most of the time, look, if you look at the Battle of Cannae, you know, Hannibal against the Romans, Hannibal won that battle before they set foot on the field.
	He had already won it.
	The election fights, legal election fights, are won before the first ballot is cast.
	And Ronna doesn't seem to understand that.
	She didn't learn it in 2020.
	She didn't learn it in 2022.
	I see no indication she intends to learn it in 2024.
	Thank you, Rick in Los Angeles.
	Mike in Detroit.
	What say you?
	Oh yeah, I just don't understand why the Republicans, these rhinos, are still trying to reach across the aisle and say, you know, begging the Democrats, please help us make America great again.
	It's just incredible, you know.
	And they don't play by the rules.
	They play by the rules for radicals, which is you hold your opponents to the highest standards and hopefully get them to bend over backwards to be fair to you while you lie, cheat, and steal.
	And this is the most corrupt Yeah, administration of a political party in the history of our country.
	Politically corrupt, criminally corrupt, personally corrupt.
	You know, it's like, please don't mutilate our children, you know?
	And seditious and treasonous.
	The evidence is overwhelming.
	You cannot compromise with these people.
	That's why I love Trump.
	He's uncompromising.
	He's taking on everybody.
	And we have to have somebody there that will take on everybody.
	Well, thank you, Mike in Detroit.
	Don in Los An... either Los Angeles or Louisiana.
	Don, you have something to say about Ukraine.
	Go for it.
	Los Angeles, Kirk.
	Great show, man.
	I think Dr. Gorka has a Mustang with a minigun attached, but that's another story.
	I have been texting back and forth with him and Amanda Milius about our shared love of that American classic.
	My first one, a red 73 Mustang.
	Anyway, you've got about 15 seconds to make your point.
	Oh, quickly, quickly.
	If the money were being wasted in Ukraine, they'd be losing.
	They would have got their butts kicked a long time ago.
	A corrupt military is the Russian military.
	They're getting their butt whipped every way imaginable and running for the hills.
	The Russian people don't want to fight.
	The Ukrainians, from little kids up to old grandmas, are training with AKs.
	Well, Don, I've got to go, but that tracks with what I know about Ukrainians.
	They're very tough customers.
	Are they perfect people?
	No.
	But who is?
	You know, at least the people are fighting for their country.
	This is Kurt Schlichter on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	Alright, back.
	Okay, I'll do the read in the last segment.
	We'll get Carrie on.
	Okay.
	You've got her link and everything.
	How am I doing?
	Is this okay?
	Yes, you're doing good.
	Okay.
	Callers are good.
	No, they're not bad today.
	No, they're like, Kurt, I don't, you know, Kurt, you're a lawyer.
	Can you explain this to me?
	Yeah, that's great.
	Thank you.
	It's my opportunity to, you know, I'm very, very happy.
	There he goes.
	I just got Dr. Crook- I didn't adjust the commercial break.
	That's fine.
	Doesn't matter.
	I don't know what that means.
	Oh, jeez.
	Holy cow!
	I haven't seen a full-body picture of Dr. Gorka since he started on his program, but he's looking great.
	I mean, it was never like he was huge, but... He lost it quick, too.
	See, I'm doing my own thing, but it's like 10 pounds a month.
	I lost 40 from like last March to July.
	Oh, jeez.
	Yeah, 10 pounds a month will do that.
	I'm still hitting the gym.
	So I'm like, actually, you know, this shirt looks great to about here.
	And then down here, I look like I'm wearing a caftan.
	Which is, you know, better than filling it out.
	But I'm gonna have to go get my damn shirts tailored, I hope.
	But no, man, lifting is great.
	I feel so damn good.
	And, uh, you know, and then, you know, cardio on the four days a week I'm not outlifting.
	It's, uh... Yeah, it's, uh... Let's make it The Weight Loss Show!
	What do you guys think of protein powder?
	Who is this next guest?
	Carrie Pickett?
	Yeah.
	Carrie Pickett.
	Carrie, how about your games?
	I'm trying to find information about this person.
	What are they, uh... Uh, she is, uh, I think she's Washington... Examiner?
	Examiner.
	That's one T. Saying she's not online.
	Yeah, there's a Washington Times and Washington Examiner.
	Yeah, there's two of them.
	I forget which one she's on.
	She might be.
	I might do phone because it's not working Skype.
	Call her.
	Okay.
	She probably got all made up and dressed up for the hit. - I don't know.
	I'm like, I'll roll out of bed.
	I'll literally throw a jacket on over cargo shorts if I'm doing a Skype hit.
	If I ever stand up, you guys would just be scandalized when I'm at home.
	And you know, the air is the one place I will wear this jacket.
	I will never wear this jacket outside because it's such a weird color, but I think it works really well on Skype.
	So, fashion hits from Kurt, guys, watching on Rumble.
	Enjoy!
	By the way, this tie picked out by Irina is very, uh... Alright.
	She... We've got her, but I don't have time to bring her up because I've got to run to the other side.
	Okay.
	So, she'll be there when you go.
	Roger.
	Guest hosting for... ...the...
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka and our very special guest host, Kurt Schlichter.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	I hope you and your family are enjoying a well-deserved vacation.
	I am in the driver's seat of the vintage Mustang that is America First with Dr. Seb Gorka, and I'm excited to welcome a friend of mine, Carrie Pickett.
	A real reporter, which you don't hear me say much.
	Carrie, welcome to America First.
	Hey, thanks for having me.
	You don't mean that.
	You do not mean that you want Seb to have a well-deserved vacation.
	I've done fill-ins, too, and I said the same thing about the host that I fill in for, and I'm always thinking, man, they're having a great time wherever they are.
	Well, it's always an honor to be here behind the dashboard.
	I'm excited.
	Kerry, you have been doing some great work on a lot of things that are going on in Congress.
	Okay, first of all, where can we find your work?
	Let's get that out there right now.
	Absolutely.
	Go to TheWashingtonTimes.com.
	That's WashingtonTimes.com.
	You can check out my work.
	You can check out all my colleagues' work.
	There's a lot of stuff going on, including, right now, I'm sure you, Manfest, heard that Title 42 was just extended indefinitely by Chief Justice John Roberts.
	He's the one who's in charge of that.
	You're the legal guy.
	You know about that.
	Yeah, I also know about throwing a life preserver to a drowning man.
	The Biden guys have got to be celebrating right now, because they are off the hook from the consequences of their communist flirtation.
	So, John Roberts.
	And frankly, I don't know whether that's a good legal decision, as opposed to a policy decision.
	I don't know if this is a results thing.
	And again, I like Title 42.
	Doesn't mean that the law requires it be extended.
	Do you think it was Justice Roberts going, I'm not going to let this nightmare happen because it's going to hurt the country, so I'm going to find a legal excuse to extend it, even though maybe under the strict application of the law, it shouldn't be?
	What do you think?
	You know what, I don't think that Justice Roberts is necessarily thinking that, oh my god, we have a We have all these immigrants hanging out on the Mexican side of the border who are going to surge in.
	We have to just extend Title 42.
	Because let's face it, even when Title 42 was in place during the last two years, the Biden administration wasn't really enforcing it anyway.
	It was just that during this time period, You have like thousands of tens of thousands of illegal immigrants who are already just to bust in.
	And one thing that I've been talking about these past few weeks is the fact that you have 2024 coming up.
	You have a lot of Democrats who are sort of in these reddish purplish states, especially in the upper chamber.
	The Senate map doesn't look good.
	They have to get into we're so concerned about the.
	I've heard that before.
	Yeah, that's right.
	They are looking to take back that house.
	They're really concerned about the border, really concerned about the border.
	And then the election happens, and whatever happens, they go, OK, let's get back to open borders again.
	Speaking of Congress, there are a lot of things going on.
	First of all, what is the deal with Kevin McCarthy?
	Is he going to get the speakership?
	Uh, that is up in the air.
	You know, one day I hear, oh yep, that's right, you know, he's gonna get two ATs, he's gonna get two ATs.
	It's just a matter of just cutting a deal with these, uh, you know, frisky, uh, Freedom Caucus type, these, uh, you know, really angry conservatives.
	Uh, within the Freedom Caucus, sort of outside the Freedom Caucus, because Matt Gaetz is not a Freedom Caucus member.
	He's kind of Freedom Caucus tangent, so to speak.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	Advocacy-ish.
	Ish.
	Ish.
	But you have to keep in mind that there were a number of rules that they wanted to get passed, such as being able to vacate the Speaker's chair, which means that it only takes one member to be able to call for the Speaker which means that it only takes one member to be able to call for the Speaker That's been around for a very, very long time, up until then.
	Speaker Pelosi came around and was like, we're going to change that.
	Well, look, Kerry Pickett, look, it seems to me that we need to get a deal done.
	And, you know, I think McCarthy, I've got my beefs with him, no doubt, but he did, he improved his numbers in 18, and he got in, 20 and he improved and he got the house in 2022 and i i say you know if you if you accomplish your mission you you get another mission i think he needs to sit down i think they need to make a deal and get past this so they can get to work is that a likely scenario based on your reporting
	um i they may have to go at least do a round or two before any republican gets uh chosen as speaker Is there any chance that there's somehow this little mini-insurrection is going to somehow lead to a Democrat-supported compromise candidate who will be some damn spineless sissy squish?
	I doubt that, no.
	Because I still have Matt Gape about that, and I don't see like a – even though Fred Upton is not going to be in Congress, I don't see like a congressman – Fred Upton.
	Well, actually, it doesn't even need to be a member or even a current member of Congress to be speaker.
	Keep that in mind, but it doesn't even need to be like a Fred Upton type of a member or like a congressman bacon or like a problem solver type of – Yeah, I don't like people who solve problems.
	I like people who lay waste to the enemy.
	Let me ask you another question.
	George Santos, The he's pretty amazing.
	He puffed up his resume.
	But the thing I thought was most hilarious is he's now accused of pretending to be gay as a Republican congressman.
	And this is a giant scandal.
	LGBTQ question mark.
	Yeah.
	You know, I was thinking about this just the other day, as far as Santos was concerned.
	And for all the ideas of like it was to be some victim status.
	Apparently this guy was using it to actually help him.
	So is it really a victim status anymore?
	We may need to... With him it was a victor status.
	He won a seat we didn't think we were going to get.
	Exactly.
	Apparently it actually helped him.
	Well we got about 15 seconds, Carrie.
	Real quick, Ronna McDaniel.
	Does she win the election for RNC chair?
	As of now, it looks like it.
	Well... As of now, it looks like she's going to be winning it.
	I don't... Unless you have any new information... I don't!
	Not yet, but I'm hoping.
	Kurt Schlichter here for Seb Gorka.
	We'll be right back.
	okay i'll do the read that was fun it And do we have any people still on the line?
	line?
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	I think it's a good show so far.
	I I feel like it's good.
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	Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
	I'm sorry my content's not better during this interstitial, folks out there on Rumble.
	I'm just pondering what I'm going to say in the next segment, which has no guest, but we'll have some calls.
	I'm looking forward to the calls.
	And I gotta talk about Angel Tree, which will be nice.
	Yeah, I'm going to do an abbreviated one.
	Let's not do the little 23 second clip.
	Yeah, let me just go through it real quick.
	But I'm going to try and make it effective and memorable.
	Since I'm actually a believer in this charity.
	I think leading with that is an important way to demonstrate value.
	All right, kill links. kill links.
	All right, kill kill links.
	our very special guest host, Kurt Schlichter.
	Yeah.
	Welcome back to America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	I am Kurt Schlichter here, and I am shaking and stirring you this afternoon in this interstitial space between Christmas and New Year's.
	I think it's actually Kwanzaa.
	But anyway, look, this is an important season.
	It's a season of giving.
	Look, you guys know I'm a retired colonel.
	I was in 27 years, enlisted, went to Officer Candidate School, became an officer, worked my way up, commanded for a long time.
	And one thing I learned is if you propose to lead, you've got to do what the troops do.
	I get paid to be here.
	They give me a substantial check for guest hosting on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka, and I sent to Angel Tree That entire amount.
	I am working for free.
	I'm working for Angel Tree today here.
	And why did I do that?
	Why did I give to this prison fellowship that delivers more than 100,000 Bibles to bring hope to men and women in prison, that impacts over 300,000 children or prisoners through the Angel Tree summer camps and youth-oriented activities?
	Because I'm never going to ask you to do something I'm not willing to do.
	And I'm asking you to give now.
	Give a tax-deductible gift to the prison fellowship.
	It'll literally change lives.
	Do it before midnight on the 31st.
	You get to take a tax deduction.
	Go to the banner at sebgorka.com.
	Click on prison fellowship.
	It's right there.
	It's easy.
	You can't miss.
	Give and dig deeply because we're charged with visiting people in prison.
	We are charged with helping the less fortunate.
	We talk a good game about not having the government do for us.
	It's time that we stand up, help the prisoners reintegrate back into life, help their kids.
	I did.
	I wrote a check.
	I'm here for free today because I've given the might angel trick.
	Follow my example.
	Give now.
	I'd like to have Rick from Pittsburgh.
	Rick, you've been done with the RNC for about 10 years.
	What will it take to get you back on the Republican National Committee team?
	Uh, hey Donald.
	Hey, I love your show, man.
	I just wanted to tell you that.
	Uh, you know what would get me on, uh, what would get me back on the wagon with them is, uh, you know, if she cut ties with Mitchie and, uh, quit taking commands from the Uniparty, you know, start considering, uh, some support for some America First candidates.
	I think that would get me back on board.
	Do you think Rona McDaniel should be re-elected or we ought to try somebody new who hasn't, you know, lost five elections in a row?
	Nah, I'll tell ya, I've liked her meat since she started.
	Her meat is very stern.
	Let me tell you a little about Harmeet.
	I'm a trial lawyer in Los Angeles.
	She's in San Francisco.
	I refer cases to Harmeet because she's that good.
	I refer cases to Harmeet because I know she's a killer in the courtroom, but I know she's an organizer and a communicator, and those are all important skills.
	This is America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	I'm Kurt Schlichter.
	We've got another hour of this madness to go, so stick around.
	Adios.
	Adios.
	We got like seven minutes here if you want to take a break or something.
	Nah, I'm cool.
	It becomes a giant thing, because for some reason they lock like five sets of doors.
	It's like if the Titanic had waterproof doors the way these guys have locking doors, it'd still be floating.
	I swear to God, you've got to go through like four different locks to get back to the room.
	That's how it is here, too.
	I don't understand it.
	It's unbelievable.
	It's like, dude, you just need one.
	Exactly.
	And somebody's like, well, you know, you don't want people walking in on our show.
	Well, just tell them not to.
	You know, instead of with the door.
	I don't get it.
	I mean, I understand security, believe me, but holy cow.
	It just becomes a hassle because of course I'm a guest here.
	So I know my own little key card.
	I got to go pester someone.
	Hey, I got a tinkle.
	Can you, can you get the, Yeah, why don't they give you a card with as much as you fill in?
	Another card for me to carry around.
	Holy cow, everybody's so into security.
	Let's carry a piece.
	Actually, did you know it's a violation of federal law to carry a firearm in a radio or television studio?
	Are you serious?
	There's actually a separate law.
	I believe.
	I have heard.
	I haven't looked it up, but I think it's in the U.S.
	Code.
	You're not allowed to have a gun in a studio.
	Isn't that weird?
	That is weird.
	You know, I got associates.
	Maybe I won't look it up.
	I don't think anybody's complaining.
	It's not like I'm going to be carrying a piece in here.
	Actually, you should be able to, because they're nuts out there, and you gotta walk to your car.
	Yeah, I'm sure a lot of conservative hosts are going, oh, yeah, yeah, okay.
	They're paying attention?
	Yeah, right.
	I'm unarmed.
	Wonderful California.
	Yeah.
	Oh, this Hanson stuff's going to be fun.
	My goal is to guest host enough so that you guys have a separate set of Kurt Schlichter bumper music. - Okay.
	I'll make some for you.
	I'll give you a list.
	It's going to lean heavy on the replacements in the Clash.
	And not crappy Rock the Kaz bod.
	I can't stand how their most famous popular song is literally their worst.
	Thank you.
	Hang on, I gotta bring him up.
	Jim!
	Hang on.
	I've got to bring him up.
	You've got Trump.
	Yeah, Trump's hanging out behind me.
	You like the tie Irina got me?
	Oh, that is sharp.
	That looks silky.
	I know, and it plays nicely off the jacket that is the same color as Sauer's wedding cruise.
	Is that the infamous Rosebush jacket?
	No, it's a different one.
	I got the Rosebush one at home.
	I'm not throwing out an $1,800 jacket.
	I don't care if it has some scratches.
	I actually wore it to a wedding.
	See?
	It was dark, so I was like, eh, no one will see.
	I know I was being judged, but I don't care.
	The people who judge you for that are people we don't care about.
	Jim, we're on Rumble.
	Hey, how's my framing?
	You might need to go up just an inch.
	Like, pull it up a little bit.
	But we're on Rumble, as you see.
	That's what the Bulwark staffers hear a lot!
	How's that?
	That's good.
	That works.
	Great, he's taller than me.
	Well, I am taller than you, dude.
	Are you?
	I don't think you're taller.
	I'm pretty tall.
	I'm 6'1".
	I'm 6'2".
	Well, see?
	You're taller than me.
	Okay.
	Dude, my daughter's pissed.
	She's 5'2".
	Well, if you ever need a ring carried into Mordor, she's all set.
	Wow!
	I'll tell her you said that.
	I like your pocket square, too.
	I think that's a good look.
	Isn't that good?
	Yeah, it's a nice look.
	I'm trying to dress up.
	It's Salem news, man.
	Salem!
	Well, Arena got me this thing, so I was like, I'm totally wearing it.
	Dude, it's beautiful.
	Otherwise, I was gonna come in with, like, a sweater.
	Nah, nah, nah, nah.
	Christmas is over, man.
	It's time to get back in the mix.
	Well, I think we're gonna have to talk about how we're celebrating Kwanzaa.
	Is that an actual Kwanzaa candle?
	They didn't just steal that from the Jews?
	Shh!
	They cut two arms off a menorah.
	I swear, guys, it's true.
	They cut two arms off a menorah.
	That's cold-blooded, man.
	By the way, the principles of Kwanzaa are the same as the principles of the Symbionese Liberation Army.
	It's amazing.
	Come on.
	My kid got me, instead of a Christmas card, he got me a Kwanzaa card.
	Right.
	I've never been prouder.
	That was the one who came down when you were there.
	Say hi to Mr. Hanson.
	He's exactly, I was surprised he acknowledged us at all.
	So that was a good parenting.
	Well, father of the freaking year.
	We were interfering with his Uber eating.
	Oh, God.
	I kid you.
	Can I Uber eat, uh, Uber eats, uh, uh, Chick-fil-A?
	No, you can go make a sandwich.
	We got bread, we got mustard, we got some meat.
	Go to town.
	Holy cow.
	Nope.
	That's not how it works, man.
	Apparently not.
	I can't cook a steak though.
	I'll say that.
	Dude, that was, those were outstanding and I do owe you.
	You should have taken the 50 bucks, man.
	I was such a smart ass.
	Oh, I am the super steak man.
	I know what I'm talking about.
	Let's tell the story.
	Let's tell the story, including the filthy, disgusting, raccoon-like conclusion.
	We've got two segments, man.
	You're here until the bottom of the hour.
	We have plenty of time to kill We have plenty
	of time to kill Is reality just too much?
	There's always NPR.
	I hear they have tote bags.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	Brace yourself for a couple segments of army potency.
	Hardcore toxic masculinity.
	You got me, 27 year army veteran, retired colonel.
	You've got special forces retired weapons first sergeant jim hansen holy cow here we are this is going to be amazing now we've got so much to talk about but the most important thing to talk about is our steak adventure it look it's the week it it was brilliant i made steaks and they were They were outstanding.
	That was some of the best ribeye I've ever eaten.
	And of course, you said no!
	It's a New York!
	All right, now let's be clear.
	I dry age my own steaks.
	Kurt's a reverse sear superstar.
	We gotta combine forces someday.
	We need to, but he serves these steaks, he brings them out, and I'm looking at it and there's no cap, for people who understand the ribeye, there was no cap and there was no luscious piece of fat right underneath the cap above the eye.
	And so I'm looking at those and I'm like, that's not a ribeye.
	I'm like, ribeye's got to have that fat because that's what I'm going to eat.
	And so I bet him 50 bucks that it was a New York strip and not a ribeye.
	And he had to prove me wrong.
	And he went all the way.
	I went out to the garbage can.
	I rooted around in the garbage like a freaking raccoon because I was going to be proven right.
	And I come in with this dripping piece of filth.
	And I said, look, it's a ribeye.
	And you're like, yes, it is.
	You won the ribeye bet and lost your dignity in the process.
	Congratulations.
	That's true.
	All right, here's how we're going to settle this.
	I'm going to feed you some American Wagyu ribeye, because I just found a farm about an hour from here that has one.
	And so I'm going out to get it this week.
	And about 30 to 35 days from now, you need to be here or we'll meet halfway.
	I can make that happen.
	All right.
	I can absolutely make that happen.
	Oh my gosh.
	Look, we could do steak talk all day, but I think it's time to get, you know, to get in tune with the season.
	Happy Kwanzaa.
	How are you celebrating this important fake holiday created by communists?
	I am going to steal from my neighbors and tell them that it's because, from each, according to what they have, to me, according to what I want.
	Yes, Chris, this is about gifts.
	Kwanzaa, created by a communist who is on the payroll of the FBI, which just takes it to a whole new level, is about redistribution.
	I studied a little of that because I got a Kwanzaa card for Christmas because my kid thought that would be funny, and it was, and I looked it up and it turns out that the principles of Kwanzaa are the same as the principles of the Symbionese Liberation Army.
	So it's Patty Hearst's holiday.
	It's Patty, it's the Patty Hearst holiday.
	We celebrate being kidnapped from Berkeley and, uh, being, uh, Kidnapped.
	Kidnapped.
	Yeah, do some scare quotes there.
	It's funny because I was, I was a kid in the San Francisco Bay Area when that all happened, happened in Berkeley and the SLA was mostly a San Francisco thing.
	Although they, when they came to LA, it didn't work out so good.
	Yeah, you know, that's every once in a while.
	We gotta remember that the police are the good guys.
	We just gotta return them to their proper role of whacking criminals.
	Well, you know, that was the LAPD.
	They didn't play around.
	You know, the LAPD surrounded the house in South Central.
	Sin Q and the gang decided to start shooting at them.
	And they shot back!
	Like 10,000 rounds!
	And the cops have better guns and they train.
	I mean, come on.
	It's one thing to pose with your AK-47 in front of a picture of Shay, you know, wearing whatever, you know, commie garb you've got.
	It's another to actually practice so you can hit what you're aiming at.
	Good on the cops.
	Well, look, all you gotta do is hit the house, and they eventually shot tear gas canisters in there, burned it down.
	I think they killed six of these communist scumbags.
	And I'm thinking... If you don't have a helicopter handy to chuck them out of, that is a reasonable alternative.
	Well look, I'm all for the destruction of communism in all its forms.
	An avocation that I know you share with me.
	Didn't we fight and win, fight being in scare quotes kind of the cold war and win?
	That was fun.
	I was, look, I was there, you were there.
	Don't you love, having served during the Cold War, you know, when some Ukrainian emoji guy on Twitter starts telling you how you love Putin, and you're sitting there going, I literally know how to defeat an attacking motor rifle regiment.
	with an army armor battalion full shut up all right i was there so don't talk to me oh my gosh the nice thing was when the cold war was over at least we had the drug war so i could get into some really seriously miami vice style danger that was oh i see it more fun cold war more important i see you more crockett than tubs oh i was totally all crocketed out i I had the, I had the shoes, the little espadrille shoes and the white t-shirt.
	Quick quiz.
	Season one and two.
	What kind of pistol did Sonny Crockett pack?
	Wasn't it a desert Eagle?
	No.
	Bren 10 millimeter.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	It was a big shiny silver one.
	I remember.
	I got one for you.
	Okay.
	What kind of car did Sonny Crockett drive for the first several seasons?
	I'm assuming it was a Ferrari.
	Everybody thought it was a Ferrari, including the producers of the show.
	Was it a Lambo?
	No, it was a Corvette that somebody had sold them as a Ferrari.
	Somebody body modded a Corvette with fiberglass, turned it into a Ferrari, and sold it to the idiots making that show, and they didn't find out for two years.
	I, uh, you know, Miami Vice is great because literally everybody had a guest shot in it.
	Literally everyone who you ever see on TV.
	It's like, yeah, look, it's Jeremy Piven.
	He's a sweaty drug lawyer.
	You know?
	Oh my gosh, Michael Cera!
	I mean, come on, the intro to that show with the chicks in bikinis and the flamingos and the boats, that was the 80s.
	That was why the 80s and Gen X rocked.
	Look, I remember it'd be on Friday nights if I wasn't out partying because, you know, I partied in the 80s.
	I think you partied in the 80s.
	Like a rock star.
	Now our idea of partying is sitting around with Dr. Gorka smoking cigarettes and scaring the hell out of Groypers.
	But that's another story.
	We're not going to tell that one.
	You know, if I was still at the house, we were watching Miami.
	Lisa was on.
	It's like, hey look, Phil Collins is on.
	He's also a drug dealer.
	The music was rock and roll.
	I mean, it was the best music, the best action drug guys, the best bad cops.
	It had everything I love in the world.
	And I tried to pattern that portion of my military career after that.
	Yeah, sadly, my military career is a lot more pedestrian.
	I was mostly washing trucks.
	As opposed to, you know... Our car wash operator, that's the greatest line, dude.
	It's beautiful.
	Yeah, I wasn't intercepting shipments of yayo, you know.
	I was decontaminating deuce and a half, so that was my contribution.
	I would have been the Tubbs, though at that time I met Hite Wade.
	But no, I did not live with an alligator either, which was...
	That was a bad idea.
	Florida!
	They got iguanas falling out of the trees.
	I think that was the coolest thing.
	We were down there when it was cold and I'm like, you guys need to be ready because them iguanas are going to be raining down.
	I love a state where you literally have dinosaurs cruising around.
	Yeah, like they own the place.
	Yeah, the problem is, you know, I have very small feminine dogs.
	They don't think they're feminine being like a warrior princess kind of feminine.
	Those dogs tried to kill me.
	Yeah, mostly by yapping to the point that you shot yourself.
	But, you know, Barky or Bitey, both of them are just one gulp for some mid-level croc.
	So that's like my big worry.
	Irina, my beautiful wife, who is an American by choice, came from Cuba.
	She's like the one Cuban-American who wants nothing to do with Florida.
	Loves DeSantis, he's great.
	Cannot stand the weather or the bugs.
	I'm with her, dude.
	The humidity.
	I mean, you can visit.
	I love humidity!
	You live in your DC!
	And I bought a printer van so we can leave during the summer when it's really the swamp, you know.
	That's a good point.
	I remember when I worked on Capitol Hill as a college kid, and it was like July, and I would come back to my dorm at Georgetown, and I would be literally drenched.
	It would like, it soaked through my Sears suit, which was three-piece.
	Actually, I think I had two.
	Oh, it was a mess.
	Two three-piece Sears suits?
	Yeah, I mean, I was a player.
	I was working for Duncan Hunter 1.0.
	Gotta have Sears sucker.
	Oh, it sucked.
	As a suit, it sucked.
	Hey, I'm going to keep you on the next segment.
	We'll talk about a little more serious stuff now that we've covered Kwanzaa and falling reptiles and pop culture.
	All important things.
	All important topics, as Andrew Breitbart taught us.
	We will be right back here on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	I've got Jim Hanson who will be guest hosting for the next two days.
	I'm Kurt Schlichter, Senior Columnist at Town Hall.
	Check out my Mitch McConnell article coming out Thursday.
	be right back i'm like strong Cool.
	Dude, I think that was the perfect radio segment in the history of the media.
	I don't think anyone has ever done a better eight to ten minutes of radio than we just did.
	I thought it was pretty amazing.
	I thought that was great, man.
	We even got, you know, we got the reptiles.
	We got the Miami Vice.
	We got everything going.
	Guys, what do you think of this trivia?
	Miami Vice trivia.
	Right?
	Yeah, I was feeling something in the air tonight.
	Oh boy, nice!
	Did the Rumble Chat people, did they get the Sonny Crockett car thing?
	Or was I the only one who knew that?
	I should have given them a chance to answer before I should have dropped that at the end of this segment.
	I did not know that, but that's hysterical.
	Dude, I thought it was cracked up because everybody was like, oh, Sonny Crockett's got a Ferrari.
	How does a cop have a Ferrari?
	I thought it was a Ferrari!
	It looked like a Ferrari.
	It looked like a Ferrari.
	They badged it.
	Yeah, that's awesome though.
	I'd love to be the dude who pulled that off, and for the rest of his life, he owns that story.
	Yeah, I sold him a Corvette.
	Yeah, here's what I did to Michael Mann.
	Every time I watch Heat, I think, yeah, he knows his gunplay, but he doesn't know his cars.
	By the way, fun Michael Mann fact, that building that they walk out of during the robbery just before the gunfight in Heat?
	That was where my original big law firm was before they offered me a $500 bonus, the same as the guy caught sleeping under the desk when I had more business than most of the partners.
	And I said, here's my counteroffer.
	How about I keep everything?
	How about F-U'd?
	Nice!
	Yes, so I worked in that 444 South Flower.
	Everywhere I would walk out there going, this is where, you know, what's-his-name Val Kilmer opened fire.
	I'm standing in that spot.
	Wow.
	Kind of makes you want to bust a few caps for old time's sake.
	It kind of did, and at the time I didn't know that Val Kilmer was the nemesis of our mutual friend Larry O'Connor.
	No.
	Oh, he hates Val Kilmer.
	Oh my gosh.
	Ask him about Val Kilmer.
	Did Val Kilmer do something to him?
	Yes.
	Oh, that's even better.
	Oh, it's the best story ever.
	But you gotta go up to him.
	You know, Larry, you know who I really like as an actor?
	A lot of people, you know, Olivier, you know, De Niro.
	Val Kilmer.
	And I swear he'll yell.
	I think Willow was the greatest bit of thespian work any man has ever done.
	I was actually watching a new series.
	It's woke willow.
	It's woke LGBTQ everything else willow.
	Come on, but it's just girls kissing, so that's not the bad kind.
	Oh.
	Well, right.
	I mean, come on, if you got to have depends on the girls now, doesn't it?
	They're kind of cute.
	You know, if they look like they're about to go do crafts, count me out.
	No, it is not the women in comfortable shoes and flannel shirts.
	And they've got swords.
	They're warriors.
	I love warrior chickies.
	You know that.
	Oh, well.
	I keep looking over my shoulder to make sure my wife doesn't hear me talking about chicks in bikinis come storming down the hallway.
	You posted a picture of her out in Desert Storm.
	She was there before me.
	Dude, she was there before almost everybody.
	She was so far ahead of me in the back.
	The rear echelon guys had to go backwards to get to where I was.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka and our very special guest host, Kurt Schlichter.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	I am continuing my conversation with retired Special Forces Weapons First Sergeant Jim Hansen, who will be guest hosting for the next two days here on America First.
	Jim, I would like to discuss the current conundrum, the big issue, the big thing going on Congressman George Santos, who apparently not only padded his resume, he's a new Republican, just got elected in Long Island.
	They didn't expect him to beat the Democrat, but he did.
	Apparently he padded his resume a little bit and pretended to be gay when he wasn't.
	And the Democrats and the regime media are going nuts.
	Well, look, I, you know, LGBTQ question mark.
	Right?
	Yeah, look, Is this kind of like Elizabeth Warren pretending to be an Indian?
	Except, like, with dudes?
	You know, I saw you, I think you had it perfectly on Twitter.
	You said, what are the rules?
	You guys invented the rules and the rules now say, if our side does it, it doesn't matter.
	So we're going to play by those rules.
	So I don't care what anybody on our team does unless they molest kids.
	If they molest kids, hunt them for sport.
	Shorty for that, you know, they can do anything.
	I don't care.
	I do not care.
	And we don't tolerate the short eyes in this show.
	uh this this this prison that is uh and that puts us ahead of them morally ethically and legally against ahead of the left so no yeah i've got these fake yeah i mean they're very excited because they think they can uh chop down the uh house majority by one by shaming us and of course the predictable conservative voice is there oh my this is a this is so horrible we have to have a higher standard here's my standard i win they lose that's my david trench had to come out of his shame closet to say that
	I blame Trump!
	No, dude, here's the thing.
	All right, this is a war.
	We are in a culture war.
	We are in every type of war for the Republic.
	And on our team is anybody who votes with us properly.
	And anybody who doesn't, and that includes a fair amount of the Republican caucus, better watch themselves because they will be primaried again.
	This is not a one-time thing.
	The pendulum's swinging our direction.
	The fighting wing of the party is ascendant.
	Well, look, that brings us to the terrible, terrible omnibus, and there's no excuse for it, because it was planned.
	We're gonna wait till the end, pack everything together, drop it, no debate, nothing, you gotta pass it, and we'll find a bunch of squishes.
	How do you... I mean, 18 Republicans voted for this abomination.
	I'm confused.
	You know, some of them are sissies, right?
	Rob Portman, come on.
	This guy, he's leaving office.
	You know, he's... Let's work across the aisle for a better tomorrow.
	Shut up.
	Tom Cotton, though?
	What do you think he was thinking?
	Well, he was thinking I got paid off.
	What this was, this was Mitch McConnell paying off all the people he needed to vote for him to keep his majority or minority leader position.
	And I think the really disgraceful thing is Mitch McConnell decided he'd rather negotiate with the Democrats than with his own team in a new Congress.
	That shows you how sleazy this is.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	new Congress in the House was not going to give him all that pork that he needed to pay off his friends.
	So that's disgraceful.
	And the turtle's got to go.
	Well, let me let me talk about Tom Cotton real quick.
	I I think in Tom Cotton's case, he was so blinded by his focus on the military that he said, well, I've got to do this so we can get more bucks for the military.
	He was wrong.
	I think it was a bad argument.
	And I think it was a huge mistake.
	And now he shouldn't run for president, even though he said he wasn't going to anyway.
	As far as McConnell, I've got a piece coming out on Thursday.
	I wouldn't say defended McConnell, but I assessed him.
	He was a good parliamentary leader before, an effective one.
	Drove me crazy, but kept Garland off the Supreme Court.
	That's worth something.
	But boy, the last two years, he's just been whipping it out and stomping on it, huh?
	I mean, mistake after mistake after mistake.
	He's 80 years old.
	I think he's lost it.
	Whether he ever had it, other than for judicial nominations, is questionable.
	But at this point, all he's doing is making sure he stays in power.
	And maybe it's just his staff.
	Maybe his staff doesn't want to lose their jobs and they like the perks they get.
	And so they're doing all this and he's just nodding his head and wobbling like the bobblehead he is.
	But the problem we got now is the Republicans have zero leverage for the entire first nine months of next year.
	So they can hold hearings, they can talk smack.
	They can't defund a single thing because they opened up the treasury and printed several trillion more dollars.
	It's obscene.
	It was a complete debasement of the function of the actual Senate's job.
	Oh, absolutely.
	And we keep hearing, the Senate is an important institution and it should be collegiate and people work in it.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	It's a bunch of jerks being jerks.
	Look, here's what's going to happen.
	They're supposed to have the budget all passed by September 30th.
	The Senate will not pass anything.
	The House will pass something.
	And then the Senate will just screw around.
	And next Christmas, we'll hear about, well, we can't shut down the government.
	Let's put our cards down and let's say if the House does not hold up and threaten to shut down the government after what McConnell did and ruined the best part of a year, if they don't do that next year, then whoever's in the Speaker's chair, and let's hope it's McCarthy at this point, but whoever's there has to go.
	The leader of the Republican Party in the House either exercises the power of the purse or we should horse whip them on the National Mall.
	I'm there with you.
	Now I notice you've said something controversial and I've been saying it too.
	We gotta have McCarthy and I'm not a McCarthy fan.
	No, he's a loser.
	Well, he won the last two elections.
	He increased a little bit.
	He did it.
	I don't think he's anywhere near as conservative as me.
	I think he's an establishment guy, although to some extent you have to be able to at least talk to the establishment to be an effective leader, because the establishment is one of the coalition.
	But I think it's time for the guys holding out and him to make a deal And get this road on the show, right?
	Yeah.
	No, they need to.
	The guys who are in the American Federation, whether it's Scalise or Jordan, whoever wants the job, make a deal for better committee positions now and let's get our ducks in a row so that when we hit January, we can actually start doing the best we can to muck up the fundamental transformation of our country into a communist crap hole well one of the things i worry about is a dilution of our effort you know uh you know one of the military principles unified effort you want to focus
	you want to focus combat power on your key objective they're supporting efforts but you want to attain that one so you make sure you've got enough uh combat power to do it i see so many things we want to we want to investigate this and that and this and then we want to have a hearing about that oh great you know i'd love to impeach mayorkas is there somebody who can not only set the priorities but explain to people why we're doing it so that the base goes oh i get it
	There's a plan.
	We can't do everything, but we're going to do these things.
	I got about 15 seconds.
	I would tell you, no, there is not.
	But we gotta get at least one shout-in.
	Hire Harmeet for the RNC so at least we have a fighting person there if we're gonna have to put up with McCarthy and McConnell for the best part of the next two years.
	Yeah, Ronna McDaniel has to go.
	She's what, 0-5?
	If you were— If you failed five out of five tasks in the Special Forces Q course, would you wear that green beret, or would you be sweeping up for the guys who do?
	I'd be in the motor pool.
	Hey, motor pool's an honorable position.
	I was a battalion motor officer.
	I'm Kurt Schlichter.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	Listen to him tomorrow and Thursday on America First with Seb Gorka.
	We still have a lot more to come, so stick around.
	All right, back on.
	Hey, I thought that was fun!
	That was a good segment!
	That was actually informative, and I love the Larry the Lounge Lizard outro.
	You know, there was that, hey, smooth jazz.
	Hey, teen guys and teen gals.
	Hey, I was thinking that the Space Force's theme music is the Cantina song from Star Wars.
	How could it not be?
	I know, right?
	Don't you love being in, like, a military ball, and then everybody's like, you know, Anchors Away, Wild Blue Yonder, Army Song, Marine Corps Hymn, and then some weird thing comes on, and you're like, what the hell is that?
	Oh, yeah, Coast Guard.
	The Coast Guard.
	Yeah, it's like, it's like, hey, we're the Coast Guard.
	We have boats, too, and there are guns on them.
	I mean, they're not as big.
	We'll help you if your houseboat's sinking.
	Oh, God.
	Well, dude, I think we have done the world a favor.
	Hey, you want to come on Thursday?
	Yeah, I got a hit at one o'clock my time.
	So put me on first.
	Yeah, put me on first.
	3 o'clock hour.
	Did you hear that, Jeff?
	Haha.
	Alright, well hey!
	3.20 or whatever?
	You wanna do 12.20 your time?
	Yeah, that'd be cool.
	See, the people need us, man.
	You know what I was thinking?
	When we were on with Seb on Newsmax, that's the war council.
	We should have a show where it's you, me, and him talking smack for one hour a week.
	Oh my gosh.
	Well, somebody's gotta throw us money.
	Yeah, somebody should, you know, bust open the money purse.
	We should call it The Coven, and the theme should be One Tin Soldier.
	Or not.
	We could do not on that.
	It's a coven thing.
	That's not a coven.
	Witches have covens.
	Well, man witches.
	We could call it the insurrection.
	Just throw it right in their faces.
	That's nice.
	That's nice.
	Not that I've ever planned an insurrection elsewhere.
	Those don't count.
	Yeah, overthrowing the government of Pineland.
	That was domestic, actually.
	Wow.
	There we go!
	Asian countries don't count.
	All right, man.
	Well, I'm gonna jump.
	I'm hungry.
	All right.
	This was fun.
	The steak was beautiful.
	Now I'm drooling a little bit, so kick ass for the last half hour.
	Adios, playa.
	I got Ned Ryan on.
	How can I go wrong?
	Oh, Ned Lee.
	Tell him I said hey.
	Will do.
	Bye-bye.
	Okay, I've already read... Oh god, okay.
	I will do prison fellowship and then I will go into Jeff and Dave.
	Sure, let's do it.
	I got a little time.
	Okay.
	No, let's skip it.
	It's horrible.
	It doesn't help.
	I think it just takes people out of it.
	I 100% agree.
	Yeah, I think that's more powerful than anything.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	say hey man all the money i'm making here i'm giving to prison fellowship you can't too yeah absolutely yeah and again a guy who's scottish to give up money holy crap that's an achievement you know is that what you are scottish about 25 percent i'm literally all northern european except for like one percent balkans i
	I think some Roman soldier from Pannonia came north to the Danube in Germany and frickin' banged a wench.
	I'm literally 1% Balkans, and then everything else is Germany, Scandinavia.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, and this is America First with the one and only Kurt Schlichter.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka, and thank you everybody out there who gave to Prison Fellowship.
	We've been running this campaign.
	Dr. Gorka's been doing it.
	You can go give to Prison Fellowship at sebgorka.com.
	There's a banner right there.
	I get paid to be here.
	They give me a princely sum of money.
	I turned around and gave it all to Prison Fellowship.
	Why did I do that?
	Because I'm an army officer.
	I don't expect you guys to do anything that I ask, that I haven't done myself.
	And look, it's worthwhile.
	Look, the Bible tells us, visit people in prison.
	That's kind of impractical in today's world, but what is practical is helping out the kids of prisoners.
	The kids are innocent, and the prisoners themselves, it gives them a chance at reformation, at rehabilitation, at coming back into the world, at giving themselves something to fight for.
	Prison Fellowship will deliver more than 100,000 Bibles to bring hope to men and women in prison.
	It will impact over 300,000 prisoners' children through Angel Tree Summer Camps and other youth activities like Angel Tree Sports Camp in Dallas.
	Look, a donation to Prison Fellowship literally changes lives.
	Remember, your tax deductible gift needs to be made before midnight on the 31st to be credited to your 2022 taxes.
	So go right now to sebgorka.com and click on the Prison Fellowship banner.
	I did.
	I'm putting my money where my mouth is.
	I want you to do that too.
	Hey, we've got callers and I want to talk to Jeff.
	Jeff, welcome to America First.
	I'm here!
	And so are you!
	What do you have to say tonight?
	Thanks for taking my call.
	I'm a senior citizen, Texan veteran.
	I love all those things.
	I've actually been interested in it.
	Never voted for a Democrat.
	But, you know, something I'm really confused about is, and you answered part of my question already.
	But what I'm confused about is where is the responsibility to the Republican Party and the constituents of John Cornyn from Texas, Mitch McConnell, of all these people?
	Where do they become accountable?
	I think that's – They become accountable for Republicans.
	I'm not going to vote for a Democrat, ever.
	Well, look, Jeff, they become accountable to you at the ballot box, and a lot of people don't pay attention.
	But John Cornyn, I don't know what's up with him.
	He spearheads this gun control thing.
	Who's the Republican who voted for a Republican candidate to help Democrats impose gun control of any kind?
	I don't get it.
	I don't get it.
	And then this omnibus thing.
	I just have one more thing to say real quick.
	I don't understand.
	It seems crazy to me.
	I just have one more thing to say real quick.
	I also don't understand how someone like me, who has no more family than a stepson and a great nephew and niece— Why do I care more about these future generations when all these people and myself and my generation are going to be food for worms when these kids get the brunt of this?
	Well, Jeff, and thank you for your call.
	That's a great question.
	I don't understand.
	I think it's selfish.
	I think you have an obligation for all your constituents, including the young ones who are going to have to live in this country, assuming we keep a country.
	Dave in Arizona, welcome to America First.
	Thank you so much, Colonel K. Maga dittos from a happy warrior here in the belly of the beast, Maricopa County, sir.
	Oh, keep fighting!
	What do you have to add to the conversation?
	Well, before I get into my question, because I need your legal advice on Carrie Lake's concern, I did send Mr. G a photo of my 2008 Shelby.
	Hopefully you and Dr. Gorka and I can get together at some point.
	Oh my gosh, that is awesome.
	So what's your question about the Carrie Lake case?
	And I'll try and give you my lawyer perspective as opposed to my pundit perspective.
	You educate me and my crew.
	So, we were quite disappointed in the judge's ruling.
	We thought that there was prima facie evidence of voter irregularities that would mandate, necessitate, if you will, another shot at the prize.
	Okay.
	Because of the 300... Well, Dave, we only have a few seconds left.
	Let me go.
	A prima facie case means enough evidence to proceed.
	It doesn't necessarily mean you win.
	The standard of proof is Clear and convincing.
	The judge, and I don't know the judge, I don't know if he was right, I don't know if he was wrong, I know his ruling said I did not find clear and convincing evidence of an intent to change the election and that the election was changed.
	That is what he ruled.
	Whether it was right or wrong is not what I'm opining here.
	I'm just simply trying to let you know what the procedure is.
	Here's the sad fact.
	We don't win if we fight after the fact.
	We have to fight beforehand.
	Rona McDaniel did not have the battle ready to go.
	She had not prepared the battle space.
	But our battle space here at America First is prepared.
	I will be right back with more in place of Dr. Seb Gorka.
	Stick around.
	All right.
	I thought that was a good little segment.
	Got their questions answered.
	Oh gosh, yes.
	I feel like it was a Bulwark Staffers wedding night.
	It's funny because they're sexually inadequate.
	I hope the Rumble people appreciated that.
	Oh, boy.
	All right.
	Alright, he's connected to Ned right now.
	Terrific.
	All right, he's up.
	You can say hi.
	Hey Ned, how's it going man?
	Do I have to say hi to you?
	I mean, I don't know.
	You don't know how you're doing?
	You didn't start drinking at noon on vacation?
	I'm coming out of the Christmas days.
	Come on.
	You should be excited.
	It's the first day of Kwanzaa.
	I'm very excited.
	I had my private celebration of Kwanzaa this morning.
	Do you have your canara up?
	It's literally a menorah that they cut two legs off of.
	Yes, that's what I read.
	My kid gave me a Kwanzaa card for Christmas.
	Yes, he was a sexual predator.
	He, like, tortured women.
	And it's ironic that the only people who actually celebrate Kwanzaa are single elementary school teachers.
	Yes.
	Oh, come on.
	Black Americans have much more common sense than to embrace that nonsense.
	They're like, no, thank you.
	We've got Jesus.
	I don't need your bizarre weird pagan stuff.
	Get out of here.
	Get behind me, Satan.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I know, it's only, only, only liberal wine women are dumb and credulous enough to buy into that nonsense.
	Everybody else is like, I'm not having it.
	Yeah, no.
	1960-something?
	Yeah, I was like 66.
	And of course, Camilla comes out.
	It looks like a hostage video, right?
	She's got Schumer there, and she's going, in our family, we always celebrated Kwanzaa.
	Yeah, I'll bet.
	And Schumer's sitting there going, I'd like to be literally any other place than here.
	I would literally, like, rather be sitting in a fire.
	Oh my gosh.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	We're just getting warmed up for the real hit, aren't we?
	Just getting warmed up.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	We're just getting warmed up for the real hit, aren't we?
	Oh, gosh.
	Just getting warmed up.
	This is for the guys on Rumble.
	Yeah.
	This is yours.
	Shout out to all the guys listening on Rumble.
	Oh, I can imagine the media matters going, Here's an article, Kurt Schlichter and Ned Ryan made fun of Kwanzaa because of its origin as a communist holiday created by a rapist who was an FBI stooge.
	Yeah, imagine that.
	Yeah, we're the bad guys.
	Yeah.
	It's pretty amazing when you think back.
	America First, MAGA-nificent.
	We are back on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka, except I'm Kurt Schlichter, his guest host, and I've got from American Majority, my pal, Ned Ryan.
	Ned, how's your Christmas?
	It was magnificent.
	You know, we celebrate real holidays at my house.
	You know, birth of Christ, celebrating that wonderful holiday, not the fake Kwanzaa crap, but it was great.
	Not having any Kwanzaa, huh?
	No, not having any of the Kwanzaa stuff, and we celebrated in many of the right ways and exchanged, among other things, you know, guns, etc.
	Proper Christmas gifts.
	Oh, that is so amazing.
	AR-15.
	Yeah, AR-15 to be specific.
	I know.
	Nice!
	We celebrate it properly around here.
	You know, look, you embody the kind of hardscrabble toughness of the American citizen of long ago.
	How the hell did we get 18 people, spineless worms, to roll over for the omnibus representing us, a great and powerful people?
	It has been a long time in the making in which the Republican Party for many, many years until Donald Trump had been captured by corporatism.
	Those 18 gutless wonders are really kind of a holdover from the corporatist Republican days.
	They still think they're living, obviously, in those times.
	I think that we have, the base has definitely become America first, but a lot of the party Establishment folks in D.C.
	are definitely of the corporatist era, and I think that's the struggle we're going to be seeing over the course of the next probably few years, few election cycles, Kurt, is what's going to win out?
	Is it going to be America first that definitively takes over the Republican Party, or are the corporatists going to strike back and renew their grip on the party?
	And if they do, it will continue to lose, by the way.
	Well, Ned Ryan, I think, look, I think the numbers of the corporatists are going down.
	I think, you know, I think a lot of these guys are just establishment saps.
	I think others, like Tom Cotton, I think he just made a mistake.
	I think he was blinded by the increases to defense spending.
	He thinks that's so much more important and he's willing to do it.
	I think that was an error.
	Still annoyed, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on it.
	But guys like Cornyn, who also collaborated with the Democrats on gun control.
	Nick, Ned... Gun control Cornyn.
	Ned, who's the Republican who voted for a Senate candidate in Texas to go to Washington and help the Democrats get a victory on gun control?
	I am baffled.
	Yeah, no, it's pretty staggering when you think about John Cornyn, John Thune, out of South Dakota, deep red- And he has such a cool Marvel villain name!
	I am Thune!
	I will destroy your commie vision!
	But no!
	He embraces it!
	The thing that's troubling, Curt, are these are the next guys in line for leadership behind McConnell.
	And I remind people, as much as I despise Mitch McTurtle, I remind people that the younger versions of him, John Cornyn and John Soon, right behind him, could be around for decades longer.
	I mean, this is one of the things that you've got to build up an America First caucus inside the Senate that has enough votes to be able to take out.
	You know, Mitch McConnell's not going to be there much longer, but then you've got to have enough votes to take out either John Cornyn or John Soon, who would try to replace McConnell and be another disaster as leadership in the Republican caucus in the Senate.
	Well, Ned Ryan, I have a brilliant article coming out on Town Hall on Thursday about Mitch McConnell.
	I have tried to be objective about him.
	I've given him credit for his legislative skills.
	I gave him credit for his work on judges and preserving the SCOTA seat for Gorsuch.
	But my gosh, the last two years, this guy has just been whipping it out and stomping it.
	I mean, he has lost, he has really, really lost his cool.
	It seems like he's more angry at his own voters than eager to frustrate Chuck Schumer.
	This is one of the things, Kurt, it's amazing to me when you look at Republicans A lot of Republicans in Congress, not all of them, but a lot of them hate, loathe, and despise their voters.
	And they treat them with complete and utter disdain every day.
	And it's as though they want to go out of their way to kick their voters in the face instead of actually represent their wishes.
	I mean, Mitch McConnell is – I've got to – I call him a sociopath on Tucker.
	I think that'd be nice.
	Well, if he was our sociopath when he was, like, making Schumer's life hell, that was fine.
	But here's the thing, Ned.
	He's getting outplayed by Schumer.
	I mean, how humiliating.
	I mean, it's really embarrassing and undignified the way he's just getting played as a fool.
	I mean, it's sad to see.
	The thing Kurt did was very apparent this summer, into the fall, into the midterms.
	He was far more concerned about 26 votes than 51.
	He wanted to hold on to be the leader of the Republican caucus inside the Senate.
	He didn't really care about the majority.
	You could see that from his decision.
	Mission accomplished!
	Yeah, someone like that I think is unfit to be a leader anywhere inside the Republican party.
	But it would be nice if we actually had somebody who stood up and represented the base somewhere inside of the Republican Party apparatus.
	Well, I think we have a few voices, and I think there's more coming.
	J.D.
	Vance, for one.
	Josh Hawley's great.
	Ted Cruz will often get in there.
	And there are others.
	But not in leadership.
	Yeah, that's true.
	If you were to really have a conversation, yes, we've got champions.
	I love Jim Banks in the House.
	Oh, he's great.
	And I hope he becomes Senator.
	But leadership inside of the Republican Party, look at the House, look at the Senate, look at the actual RNC.
	I mean, I defy you to actually point out any champion of America First of the base voters.
	You won't find any.
	Well, let's talk about Ronna McDaniel and her 0-5 track record of failure at the RNC.
	You know these folks.
	You know the 168 voters, donors, activists.
	These used to be quiet, sleepy, kind of rote elections.
	Hey, it's your turn.
	You get to be chairman.
	Do you think there's any chance the Harmeet Dhillon insurgency, by the base, and it is by the base, will win?
	And we got about 30 seconds.
	I think she's got a very legitimate chance.
	I'm helping her with votes.
	I know her whip vote is at the moment.
	The election is January 27.
	I mean, this is the thing, Kurt, and I know we're short on time.
	Why are we rewarding a loser?
	Yes.
	Ron has lost everything.
	Great question.
	It's time for a change.
	Yes.
	And Harmeet's got the vote.
	She's building towards that.
	Again, the vote comes in about five, six weeks.
	But it's time for change.
	It's time for us to actually get back to winning.
	The Republican Party should be focused on actually winning in 2024.
	And with Ron at the helm, it will not win.
	Thank you, Ned Ryan of American Majority.
	This is Kurt Schlichter sitting in for Dr. Seb Gorka on America First.
	Stick around.
	We'll be right back.
	Guys, can you put up the hire her meat thing?
	I'll close out with that.
	Nah.
	Ugh.
	You want me to take it, don't you?
	Yes, I'll take it.
	Joe in L.A.
	All right.
	All right.
	This will be good.
	Oh, my tie looks fantastic.
	Very excited.
	Who's the guy on, what's his name again?
	again okay i'm
	sebastian gorka and this is america first with the one and only Kurt Schlichter.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	We're closing it out here on America First.
	I want to urge all of you to make your wishes known about the new Republican National Committee Chair.
	Go to HireHarmete.com.
	H-A-I-R-E H-A-R-M-E-E-T dot com.
	You can find the email address for one of your three committee people for each of your states or territories or wherever you live.
	There's 168 of them.
	They do the voting.
	Send them a nice email.
	Explain what you feel.
	Don't be a jerk.
	No, it's not that at all.
	It's nothing personal.
	make your intentions known and let them act accordingly hey joe in la wants to call in and tell me why i suck joe welcome to america first no it's not that at all it's nothing personal um it's just i heard you talking to ned ryan a few minutes ago and saying that uh you guys don't want to reward a loser but the trump of cult i'm sorry
	the cult of trump stands behind him even though he was a loser in 2018 a loser in 2020 a loser in 2022 he He's cost the Republican Party over and over and over again.
	But this cult-like behavior remains because it seems like Republicans are afraid of him.
	And I think that's the reason why Joe Biden won in 2020, because he told him, hey man, will you shut up?
	He showed more spine and more fortitude.
	Well, hold on.
	You're doing two things.
	You're criticizing Trump, which is fair.
	He's running for president.
	He's got to make his case.
	I'm not sentimental about guys running for president.
	They got to earn my vote.
	That includes President Trump, a guy I respect, a guy I wrote a book defending.
	So he's got to get out there.
	He's got to answer the questions about how elections went, about how his policies, about his personnel, about his achievements.
	And there were plenty.
	As far as Joe Biden, your argument becomes a different one, which is Joe Biden is a good guy.
	Joe Biden is garbage.
	He is a human dumpster.
	He is corrupt.
	He is stupid.
	And now stupid plus senile equals, well, unfortunately, our president.
	He has been wrong about every single not only foreign policy decision and issue, as Robert Gates famously said, but every domestic one over the last 50 years.
	The guy has been in Washington D.C.
	for a half a century.
	And it's getting worse.
	He's got a track record of achievement.
	Unfortunately, that achievement is destroying our country.
	So we really got two issues.
	I want to thank you, Joe, for calling into America first.
	Guys, I want to thank you all.
	for being here with me as I have steered this careening Mustang of a show.
	Dr. Seb Gorka is a good friend and he's a guy I respect, and the fact that he lets me come here and talk to you for three hours on his microphone is a great honor, and I appreciate it.
	You are a great audience, you have good points when you call in, you're interested, you're engaged, and you're patriots.
	And if you're a patriot, You really want to have your say in the next RNC election.
	So like I said, go to hireharmete.com, find out who your representative is, send them a nice email saying, hey, I stand with Harmeet.
	Or if you stand with Rana, tell them why.
	I can't imagine, but it's your party.
	Your voice needs to be heard.
	Thank you very much to the whole gang here at America First.
	I'm Kurt Schlichter.
	Adios.
	Alright, good job.
	You like it?
	That good show?
	It's good to get that color in.
	Okay.

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